The Money Mondays - Focus on ONE Skill Or Stay Broke Forever | Adam Sosnick (SoSTalks) & Justin Colby 💵 EP119
Episode Date: April 28, 2025In episode of The Money Mondays, Adam Sosnick and Justin Colby talk about the power of mastering one skill to break free from the cycle of struggle and achieve financial success. From Adam's journey i...n finance to Justin's real estate expertise, they share their insights on how focusing on a single area of mastery can lead to massive wealth. Learn why juggling too many ventures can hold you back and how dedication to one path could be your ticket to financial freedom...---Justin Colby is a seasoned real estate investor and entrepreneur, known for his expertise in wholesaling, flipping, and rental properties. From overcoming early struggles to closing over 2,000 deals, Justin shares his journey and actionable strategies to help you achieve success in real estate.---Adam Sosnick is a former nightclub promoter turned self-made millionaire, financial educator, and content creator. After struggling with money in his 20s, he broke into the finance world, eventually leading national sales for a top insurance firm. Today, Adam is known for hosting money-focused podcasts, breaking down wealth-building strategies, and inspiring young entrepreneurs to master one skill, play the long game, and build real financial freedom. He's also a key figure at Valuetainment and co-host of the PBD Podcast.Like this episode? Watch more like it 👇How We Went From a Beat-Up Van to 200+ Franchises w/ Nick Friedman & Vince Ricci: https://youtu.be/cOF0BpMujVsDropout Teen Mom to MILLIONAIRE Network Marketing Queen – Stormy Wellington: https://youtu.be/mqrfRyg66J4Can Anyone Become a World-Class Salesperson? Jeremy Miner Reveals How: https://youtu.be/m07lSVAoZpIWhat Does It Take to Become a Real Estate Investor in 2025? w/ Albert Preciado: https://youtu.be/_ZJm8u7MjhQWatch ALL Full Episodes Here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs0D-M5aH-0IOUKtQPKts-VZfO55mfH6k---The Money Mondays is a business podcast here to teach you how to make money, invest money, and donate money by showcasing some of the world's most successful people and how they do the same. Hosted by serial entrepreneur Dan Fleyshman, the youngest founder of a publicly traded company in history, this money podcast gives you an exclusive behind the scenes look at how the wealthiest celebrities, entrepreneurs, athletes and influencers make, invest and donate money.If you want to learn more business and investing while you work to improve your financial life, you're in the right place! Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@themoneymondays?sub_confirmation=1Dan Fleyshman,The Money MondaysLearn more here: https://themoneymondays.comWatch all the podcast episodes: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs0D-M5aH-0IOUKtQPKts-VZfO55mfH6kLet’s Connect...Website: https://themoneymondays.comPodcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-money-mondays/id1663564091Twitter: https://twitter.com/themoneymondaysLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-money-mondays/about/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@themoneymondaysFB: https://www.facebook.com/The-Money-Mondays-110233585203220/
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Money Mondays.
I'm here with our guest, Mr. Justin Kolbe.
He slipped over 3,000 homes, but he's doing real estate investing, podcasting, personal
branding, speaking, and all the things in between.
So we're going to dive into all those different topics.
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How to make money, how to invest money,
how to give it away to charity.
But first, we're gonna have Justin Kolbe
give a quick two minute bio,
so we can get straight to the money.
Let's go.
So, I've been an entrepreneur since I got out of college.
Graduated in 2003 and went straight to door knocking sales.
Turned that into a business to business
door knocking sales company.
Caught pneumonia,
because I was doing it in Boston, Massachusetts.
Then turned that into the real estate empire I have today,
but it didn't come without a cost.
Lost my home to foreclosure. Rupelman took my car, sleeping on a couch, and then turned that into the real estate empire I have today, but it didn't come without a cost.
Lost my home to foreclosure,
Rupoman took my car,
sleeping on a couch,
and just decided what I wanted,
which is the life I have today,
and who I needed to be to get it.
So the last 18 years I've been grinding it out,
working, hustling,
putting together systems, operations,
and built what I have today.
Lots of breakdown there.
Oh yeah, that's it. Alright, so first on the make money side,
what do you think holds people back
from making money in real estate?
Do they think they need to have too much money?
They think they need really good credit?
They think they need to have all the experience?
Walk us through what holds people back in real estate.
All that, I mean at the end of the day,
the biggest hurdle I think people think about,
and it's a myth, is that you need to have money
or you need to have credit.
You can fix and flip homes today right now in Miami or Scotchdale or anywhere you want
with no money and no credit.
I do it still to this day.
I have money.
I have credit.
I still don't utilize them on transactional real estate.
That is different when I buy apartments.
It's different when I buy storage, etc.
But the biggest myth I do believe on the transactional side is people think they can't get in, they can't flip homes, they can't do whatever
because they don't have the cash. Not true. I've proven it time and time again.
I've been coaching for 13 years exactly how to do it without any of your own
cash and credit. Anyone can do it in any city sitting from the couch. I mean, this
is an industry literally very similar what we were talking about social media, real estate, you
can do anywhere, you don't have to live in the city, which is
another myth, like, I don't know if my markets the best market,
you don't have to live there, you could be on a beach in Fiji,
or Thailand, living incredibly well, and doing deals in, you
know, Oklahoma, Doesn't matter.
So that is another thing is people have to realize like,
this is as virtual of a business as you have ever wanted,
especially if you're not fixin' flipping.
If you're transactionally wholesaling,
you could do it absolutely anywhere.
I wouldn't encourage fixin' flipping virtually
until you have some resume behind you, to say the least.
So you just said something called
transactionally wholesaling. What the heck is wholesaling? Explain to the audience.
Yeah, that is a very transactional. You don't need any money period, anybody's money.
You don't need any credit. There's no loans. You are essentially assigning your interest in the contract
over to another buyer. So like this is very common in a lot of different industries.
Most notably is the car industry. Assignments are very common there, right?
But you are contracting a property with a homeowner, and then that interest in that
paperwork you are assigning over to another buyer.
So all the terms of that paperwork transfer over to the other buyer and you take a fee
in the middle to do so.
And so to some extent, it's similar to being a realtor, even though a lot of realtors hate
us, they think we're stealing their business.
We aren't e-realters,
we go after different types of clients typically.
But there's a fee in the middle,
and it's because we put the deal together,
we put it all together,
we found the buyer,
we lined up the seller just like a realtor would,
and we collect a fee in the middle.
So when someone out there listening,
they're thinking about making money in real estate.
They hear about Airbnb, fixing and flipping, long-term rentals, buying and holding, all the different things that they...
There's so many options, storage units, commercial real estate.
Oh my gosh, so many options.
How the heck can someone research or decide or figure out what the heck they go into first?
So this is another, when you pose the question, that's another reason people don't go out and go get it is because it's so overwhelming and all of our mutual friends are out there on YouTube and podcast whatever.
And to some extent they all have some different version of a very similar content strategy right.
But the reality is if you just remove the minutia of overwhelming, like drinking from a fire hose, our business
in real estate is no different than any other businesses on the planet. It is about going
and finding and lead generating. That is it. You are trying to lead generate for motivated
sellers. If you can find the sellers, everything else will fall in place. But you need to be
a great marketer. You need to understand who your avatar is and then you market to them. Direct mail, TV ads, PPC, TikTok ads are great for this right now.
I mean there's literally the same business model you would use for any industry right now.
You would use for this.
And by the way, just a little known fact, everyone in my space talks about you need to go find a motivated seller.
No, you don't.
They are everywhere.
They are on the MLS.
That is what it is, is people trying to sell their home.
Those people are motivated.
They're already actively trying to sell their home.
Call the agent.
Find a way to negotiate a price that works for you
as an investor.
From there, you have a free deal,
you assign that deal for two grand, five grand, 10 grand,
you have an infinite return on your investment,
which is your time, and you found the motivated seller.
So what if someone is thinking, you know, I want to go bigger, I want to go buy a four
plex or 16 unit or a commercial building that's a million bucks or four million bucks or five
million bucks, and they want to syndicate a deal. What is investment syndication?
So that's where you create a fund, right? And so you syndicate based around the investment.
And there's a lot of different structures.
So I don't want to, I'll talk generically,
but you know, there's a fund that you put your money in
and that fund typically will give you a preferred return.
And some funds take ownership and equity,
which would give you the same ownership and equity.
And then some funds are just a debt fund.
It really depends on who set up the fund, what they're doing, but that gives you an
opportunity to be in people's world.
So Grant Cardone has done this brilliantly, right?
There's a lot of people who have done syndications.
He's just probably one of the bigger names.
And so I have owned several different funds.
I don't do long-term syndications currently. I actually would rather almost self-syndicate, meaning, hey Dan, we have
an apartment building in Oklahoma. You want to come in, have ownership,
have the tax write-offs, have all the upside, have everything.
Let's put you in the operating agreement. You're now an owner with me. So currently,
I like almost self-syndicating, just one by one, kind of
hand-to-hand combat if you will
But a larger, you know fund syndication brings in you could have hundreds if not thousands of people invest into the fund
So what if someone's like, you know what? I don't really know where the state or maybe I want to do it later
I still research and I just want to invest into a fund
I want to put in money into this $20 million fund, for example, that's going to go buy storage units. That's right. What ballpark should I be hoping for for return
if I'm putting in 100k into a real estate fund? Teens. If you can get to teens, to high
teens, I think that would be a good 13-18%. Yeah, I think that would be a solid fund.
I think if that's really what you're trying to target is a return on your investment.
So if you're going to go into a syndication, most syndications just want to give you a
preface on your investment, right?
And so if you have someone offering somewhere in the teens total IRR, like you could get
into the 20s, especially if it's a debt or equity fund, depends on again, there's so
many of these, I'm going to speak in generalities.
People that can't spell IRR, what is that?
Internal rate of return.
And so I just think there's, I like the idea
of investing in real estate passively
for those that aren't day to day in the grind,
or don't want to be, right?
The Dan Fleischmanns of the world are not gonna go out there
and comp an apartment that might be a great investment
for Dan. No idea.
But he's like, Colby, what, Colby, here's some fucking money,
I don't know if you're here. Because that is the right way to do it, what? Colby, here's some fucking money. I don't want you to be here.
Because that is the right way to do it is just give me a return on my money and I want it protected.
So like I own blue chip stock only you do speech after speech about diversity,
like investing, but I'm not a stock guy.
Right.
I love Amazon.
I love Tesla.
I love Facebook.
I throw my money at them because it's safe, it is secure as it can get and I'm out
I don't look at it right same thing with crypto. We talked a lot about crypto when we're sharing stages you go deep in that
I love crypto. Love it. I don't day trade it. I just I just throw money at it and say let's keep going guys
Right, like and so for me real estate is a lot more of the I enjoy it. I love the art of it all
But it is never passive.
That's another thing I would tell people.
People are like, oh, I want to get into real estate because it's passive.
It isn't until you get to scale where you can be hands off because there's enough revenue
coming through the machine that will pay for the property management and overall management
of everything.
But until you can get to scale and and scale is, say minimum 100 doors,
none of it is sexy on the way to 100 doors.
It's just not, right?
You will not make as much money.
I literally have an apartment right now, 32 doors.
That apartment is gonna make me roughly $40,000 a year.
I'm bald because of this apartment, not really.
But like, it's just a pain in the butt.
Like, that's not a sexy return
But if you have 20 of those sure now we're talking about a nice little day, right?
So I just also want people to understand like I think everyone should be everyone should be in real estate
It should absolutely be some level of diversity within your portfolio
Should everyone be actively transacting in it, like wholesaling or fix and flipping?
I love it. So I'd say is something fun to do. The challenge I see is TV is really romanticized fix and flipping.
So many shows.
So many shows. And when you speak to the actual people that you and I know, the numbers aren't totally add up, right?
And so you go, there's a lot more loss in the world
than there is profits.
So I'd really rather people like,
the Burr model is probably my favorite to suggest
for a newer person.
What's that?
Buy it, you rehab it, you rent it,
or you buy it, renovate it, rent it, and refinance.
I love that model.
Because then you are effectively kind of doing
that whole ecosystem of the sexy part
You're buying it rehabbing in but then you're asking for a bank to take your money back out
Right. Usually the bank will give you 75% of that number
So you want to be all in for about 75% maybe 80% if you have the right bank
You can own an asset for no money in so talk about a brilliant way to invest
I'm gonna make an initial investment within six to nine months. I'll have 100% of my investment back. I might only be making
$200 a month, which will not change anyone's life. But it's an infinite return because
there's no money in the deal anymore. That is a model I really can lean into when talking
to like newer individuals.
So you mean like buy a place for $750,000, for example, 70 grand into it now you're in for $820,000 for example,
and then get it to be worth a million 1.1 and then try to refinance $750,000?
That's right. And then you'll have a family that wants a nice home in a nice area?
Pay five grand a month and live there.
That's exactly right.
All right guys, I'm going to talk to you about the dummy tax.
So the dummy tax is, let's say that Dan wants to do a fourplex, and I'm gonna remodel a fourplex.
And Justin Colby is gonna buy a fourplex
on the same exact block.
Both these fourplexes are $1 million.
I'm gonna go Google search, General Contractor Miami.
He's gonna text his friend, hey Robert, how's your kids?
I need you to work on this fourplex I just bought.
I need you there tomorrow morning at 7 a.m.
How much budget should I spend on one million dollar fourplex? Hey, bro, it's gonna be 80 grand
I need you to stay within the budget obviously tell your wife
I miss her and her and her my wife should hang out soon
All right. Where do I buy supplies for fourplex?
All right, bro. This is what we're gonna do.
Justin's gonna go through every single detail
from the front door to the back door
to everything upside down, the plumbing,
the details, ring security cameras, remodeling, the marble,
everything that I'm gonna go pay full retail for.
He's gonna get it wholesale or at cost.
He's gonna get it shipped in one week.
It's gonna take me three months.
And by the way, I found the exact same general contractor,
but he's busy because he's working on Justin's Place,
and he's gonna take half a year for me
and do it for him in one or two months.
You see the difference?
The dummy tax is I'm trying to figure things out as I go.
I'm maybe paying full retail
or paying for things that I don't necessarily need.
I'm gonna go get like,
I'm gonna get like eight marble chandeliers.
And he's like, nobody cares.
I'm going to get, and he's like,
you can get chandeliers too,
but I'm going to buy them for four and a bucks each.
I'm going to spend 4,000 each.
Like all the little details Justin's going to do
more efficiently because he'd done it 3000 freaking times.
3000 times.
And so whether it's my first time, second time, third time,
I'm never going to catch up to Justin Colby in this example.
And so the dummy taxes that you can avoid is one, research, So whether it's my first time, second time, third time, I'm never going to catch up to Justin Kolbe in this example.
And so the dummy tax is that you can avoid is one, research, two, hire a mentor or coach
or get courses.
Justin Kolbe teaches.
There's people that have amazing podcasts like him, etc.
Go learn from people that are out there.
Three is do what I do.
I co-invest into deals.
I invest in real estate funds.
I invest in fix and flips.
I invest in people that I've known for years that I like and I've watched them go through the hard stuff.
Can they have failures along the way or lose a little bit of money sometimes? Sure. But
if they've done it 3,000 times, I'm guessing 3,001 is going to be OK. And the one-off chance
that it's not, I'm sure 3,002, 3,003, 3,004, 3,005 is going to be great, right? And so
economies of scale also is they're going to buy supplies cheaper,
they're going to buy everything cheaper
because I'm going to go pay for lumber for one house.
He might be flipping nine houses this month
and pay for lumber at wholesale.
See the point?
And so I like to co-invest into deals.
And so for you guys, just research,
try to understand everything you can before you dive in
to fixing and flipping and remodeling
before you just like, I'm going to buy a house and I'm going to buy a fourplex and I'm going and remodeling, before you're just like,
I'm going to buy a house and I'm going to buy a fourplex
and I'm going to remodel it, it's going to be great.
It looks romanticized on TV like Justin was just mentioning,
but do as much research as you can, listen to the podcast,
buy the courses, go to masterminds, hire the mentors,
because it'll literally change your life forever
just learning all the tips and tricks.
Okay, someone's finally made some money, right? Yeah. Now they got it. They've
done six houses, they got their swagger now, they're in the game, maybe they even quit
their job because they got 12 grand a month of rental income coming in. They're doing
it. Yeah. What is the turning point where they should feel comfortable to actually bring
people into deals with them? So I don't, so here, you know, it's funny,
after I don't know how much money I've raised over time
over real estate, but a lot, I don't love when people
don't quite have the experience to bring people in.
For sure.
Because now you're creating a friendship that Dan and I
can be the closest friends of all time,
and then the one deal the one deal right that takes
14 months instead of nine months and it becomes a loser and you go sorry Dan
And then now the taco nights aren't as fun for me and Dan and it's like this so I'm really cautious there
I'm not saying you can't but if you do it, I would say be extremely prudent make sure they're well aware of like
You're an investor,
there is risk of loss. If we lose together, you will eat 50% of that loss
and I will eat 50% of loss in paperwork, in writing, notarized on documents,
because the one time I didn't years ago, I found myself in a three-year lawsuit.
And I would say that because I've raised a lot of money, but I keep it very
straightforward of like, it is transactional, you're looking for a return, if there is a
loss, we share, that's it. So I think it's it's up to them. I have a private client right
now that just did this with a friend. He wants to be a little more ambitious. I'm pulling
him back and saying, Hey, your guy has the checkbook, I get it. But like, do one or two
with them, let him create the certainty that this I get it. But like, do one or two with them.
Let him create the certainty that this is going to work for you guys.
And then let him lean into like, hey, let's open this up.
Then it's like, all right, as long as the paperwork's there,
I would have a lawyer do it.
Because the last thing you want to do is have a discrepancy of what
does a loss mean to everybody.
Because that's where it gets sticky.
When it's all going great, everyone loves each other.
Of course.
The one deal that is an actual loss,
then you have to deal with it.
So I would tell people,
wait as long as you can.
And then I would also then say,
if you were gonna do, I wouldn't always do it on flips.
And how I would structure it on flips,
if you're gonna do it anyways and not listen to me,
that's what people do. I would give him a return, let's just say I give Dan a
10% return, and or 25% of the profits.
That way he has an opportunity that is more enjoyable for him that if we hit a good deal,
he's going to be making more money by having the profits. So you have kind of a lever that gives you both opportunities
and then do it more in the BRRR model than the fix and flip model.
Because the BRRR model, at least you have the opportunity to fix and flip
or keep it as a rental because you're renovating it either way.
So you need an underwrite to a BRRR because that way if Dan and Justin found a deal
that the contractor took too long,
the city stopped us, whatever, whatever,
we can say, hey, let's just hold this together.
It's not ideal, but at least it's not a loser now.
Storage units.
I have become immensely obsessed with them
the last couple of years.
I don't have any.
I'm part of two funds that I invested in too
that have storage units.
So I have exposure that way,
but it doesn't feel the same as like, you know.
Exactly.
And so I like it because there's no bathrooms
and there's no tenants.
That's why I like it.
I love that concept, especially at scale, right?
Because we see some of our mutual friends like
Bobby Castro's got $700 million apartments
and Brad Sumrocks got 11,000 units
and Vina Jetti's got over a billion and convert like we have friends that have got
one billion dollar plus of apartments.
But I also hear some of the stories of like, I couldn't get the tenants out.
And especially if it's California, you know, those type of things.
So they've built up generation of wealth in this business.
So obviously the greater good is definitely there.
But I have been thinking about, man, storage units are really interesting to me
because I am not going gonna be active in it
I don't want to like hear about tenants in situations and plumbing and blah blah blah
So talk us through the storage unit side. You mentioned that you've done a little bit of that. What are your thoughts on it?
I have one unit. I would love more
It was brought to me by a storage unit. He's a partner. I'm a partner in the deal
Obviously, but he was that's his main business. And so he basically came to me and said,
hey, I'm looking at buying several, I could raise some capital.
Do you want to be involved?
And I was like, absolutely.
But the idea of why I want more is because of what you're talking about.
Like it's a pretty straightforward business.
You want to, there is a capex side of that.
You want to create the valuation really fast to go as high as it can really fast.
And then you kind of just are going to end up sitting there.
So things like security systems, paint, a gate around the complex,
those are like your rehab, right? I mean that's really the extent of it. You
essentially don't have any tenants, you do in the sense of you have a client
that pays you every month but if they don't pay you lock their stuff and then
sell it in 30 days. Like it's the most easy transaction is so spreadsheet driven
That anybody that is good at spreadsheeting math like at a little bit can look at something and say
That's a good ROI
It's that simple because you don't have the variables you would with a single-family home or an apartment. You just don't
There's not the human component of it. And so I love them.
If I had more time in my life, I would probably focus more on that. But I've invested so much
energy time in the residential space. I'm there, right? But I would say most people,
like a damn flesh man watching this listening to this, have some intrigue in storage. It
is a great place to put your money.
Stuck in my I'm thinking about right now. Yeah, you should.
I just like storage units.
The storage unit industry is so unique
because you have the big box storage units
that we're all aware of, those massive ones, right?
It's hard for us little guys to kind of do that
unless we build them, but you can build them.
So one of the things that my partner and I were looking at
is we were looking at a old, is it a Toys R' Us in Vegas?
Oh really? But then you build, so you pop the top of the Toys R' Us,
take it to five stories, as long as the zoning
can happen, and then you build an internal storage facility.
And everything's inside the store, right?
So there's a door just like a store,
and then all the storage facilities are inside.
And it takes a boatload of money. I
think it was like a 20 million dollar raise we were gonna have to do if we wanted to do it.
But oh my god, it is just, it prints money after that. And it's all inside because Vegas has that
extreme heat and whatever and so outside storage isn't ideal. No one ever cancels their storage
units, they just forget it. And then you lock it and then sell it. And it's just, I love it. But there are different verticals, right?
Like the really kind of small mom pop stop people,
you want to, like you and I would only really want
to be looking at 50,000 square feet or more.
Could be where we would want to be investing
or buying or whatever.
But there's a lot of these like 20,000 square foot spots
in Tulsa, Oklahoma
that you could go make four or five grand a month.
And maybe that may not feel like a lot of money, but like compounds.
Yeah, you go get fucking 100 of those things.
Right. Right. And it's like really not.
And you don't have to even do everything I just talked about, like those little ones
that are 20,000 square feet, no real need for security.
They are smaller.
You guys all know the ones we're talking about, like usually kind of on the side Those little ones that are 20,000 square feet, no real need for security, they're smaller.
You guys all know the ones we're talking about,
like usually kind of on the side road of the freeway.
Like it is just awesome, right?
And so I'm like you, I have this like want and more to do it.
I just got to find the time.
So what do you spend the time on?
What are you into the most?
Right now, so last year I bought four apartment complexes but they're all burnouts essentially they're all like
vacant and just destroyed yep and so a lot of my time right now is turning
those right because they are great upside opportunity if done right are
their tenants or they're not tenants or no there's no tenants right now got it
so all the equity I raised is equity, no debt,
meaning I don't have to pay monthly. And it's all for the
upside. So again, you call a day and say, Hey, dude, I know you
need a tax write off because you're gonna own it with me. You
want the upside, you want a resume that has commercial on
it. We'll have an exit in about five years. I can't pay you
monthly in a loan style debt, but I'm going to give you the
equity that gives you all the other stuff. In fact, I'll give you a preff
and I'll give you 10% of your money while it's accruing.
And then when we refi out with the bank,
I'll make sure you get a minimum
that your interest that you're owed
plus whatever appraisal we can get,
I'll give you as much as your principal back.
So your principal, or I'm sorry,
your interest plus your principal on the refi,
there's a chance you get 50, 60, 70, 80,
90% of your principal back on the refi, there's a chance you get 50, 60, 70, 80, 90%
of your principal back on the refi if it's done right,
and you're in it and have all the upside,
all the tax write-offs, all everything.
So I like the vacant model, the downside of the vacant model.
There's no money coming in, right?
So when things go bump in the night,
you're like, oh man, there's like,
I just gotta stroke a check for that.
There's nothing to do.
There's no money coming into the company, right?
But there's pros and cons to both, right?
I think the next one I'll buy will be performing
to some level, because when the bumps go in the night,
you go, oh no, okay, daddy's gotta go cut that check.
But the upside is also that like,
we can really incentivize the value. So we're taking a general area that
probably would have a $2 million type of apartment. And because
of how we're building the units, we're going to get it to like
3.5 million, which will then lift up that area. And then my
thought is if we can start to control more of that area, we'll
kind of have this resource of a like a localized like economy
that we built that lifted the values because the town of Birmingham city of Birmingham,
they're going through a massive gentrification, the city's putting like $50 million in to create this entertainment district, and our apartments are right there, like a mile away.
Okay.
So it's strategic in that sense of like, if we can just value add this whole area, that's the game.
So there's one question that I ask on almost every episode and I've never gotten the same answer before.
You go build up thousands and thousands of units and then five thousand units and eight thousand units and ten thousand units
and maybe fifty years, a hundred years from now, however long, sadly, it's time that Justin Colby passes away.
But you've got 10 or 20,000 units you've accumulated.
What percentage of your net worth do you leave to those kids?
Something I think about daily, you and I are younger parents, right?
Our kiddos are young still.
So I think about it.
I was just, so I have a philosophy, you only fly first class. It
happened again last night, flying home from Phoenix, flying first class. I
happen to be sitting next to the coach of Ryan Serhant. And so next you know,
now like we're talking about Ryan coming to begin this event that, so that will be
a big surprise. I don't want to be looking at it, but he has, anyways, I say all this
to say one of the flights was a financial advisor.
He was in his seventies.
He looks at me and we're having a great conversation.
You know, we're just talking about life and money
and blah, blah, blah.
And he says, I'm gonna give you the best advice
I could ever give someone.
Invest in current living.
And as I just said that to you, I got shivers.
Invest in current living. As I just said that to you I got shivers. Invest in current living. He was
like, I can't tell you how many incredibly wealthy people I have managed
their money, been there financial for, including myself, and at the end of their
life they could care less about all of it. And all they wanted were the memories.
All they wanted were the moments, the experiences. We have a mutual friend, Kent, like, he just talks about collecting moments.
And the older I'm getting, the more I'm like, fuck it, I don't...
It's not about what's left behind.
Like, I don't want entitled children, I don't want the trust fund baby.
Not saying they're bad, but more often than not, they become entitled,
they don't know how to work like you know how to work and I know how to work. And I'm leaning towards like, I'm going to let you work for it. And if there is a payday at the end of this thing, you're not going to see it until you're a lot older. And so that's where I'm leaning, I don't I don't have a set number and whatever, and you're going to get it all. And I think it's more of a like, I'm going to teach you how to work, you're going to go get a job, and and you're gonna go to college or not, I'll probably say do whatever you want to do.
And yeah, you'll get it later on in life just because I just I want to invest in
my life, right? And with them, I want them to be along that journey while
they're young and into their teens and 20s. Like I want to take family
occasions with my 25 year olds and you know, pay for them and do that kind of
stuff. Like I'll pay for that while I'm alive and they're alive you guys want to go stay
at the Four Seasons and wherever the hell great daddy's got it I'm all over
this shit but like leaving him that kind of money I'm not the biggest proponent
of it at this point I just it's really hit home invest in current living all
right so you've got your event coming up April
18th and 19th. Yeah. Give me a favor look at this camera and explain why should
people go to your event or why should they tell their friends to go to your
event? The name of it, the concept of it, all of it. Creators Cash Flow Conference
right here in Miami April 18th and 19th. It's an event that your boy Dan
Fleischman was speaking at. This is for anyone and all people who are creators.
Many of you guys are out there creating content already, whether it be Instagram, TikTok,
podcast, or otherwise, but you're not creating a business out of that same content.
So it's an expense to your bottom line and not a revenue generating activity.
Many of you are brilliant.
Your mind and your heart are in the right place and you have something to give the world, but in
exchange for the value you're giving the world, you should be looking at it as a
business and creating income from it. So all of you out there right now that want
to see Dan Fleishen, myself, Dean Graciosi, Ty Lopez, Coach Stormy Wellington,
and I think a couple of special guest other speakers that we just talked about,
we are gonna be live in person here April 18th, 19th, and I think a couple of special guests, other speakers that we just talked about,
we are gonna be live in person here April 18th, 19th,
and there is a virtual option as well,
that if you can't make it to Miami,
you can actually get the virtual option.
It's gonna be in the Move studio
where we're recording this right now.
I'm so fired up because as someone
who's finally figured out how to monetize my brand,
monetize my content, I want to empower all of you.
It doesn't matter if you're doing YouTube, TikTok,
podcasting, create that value for others,
but then create it for yourself by monetizing it
and not just making an expense.
Creators, cashflowconference.com.
Awesome.
All right, guys, make sure to check out Justin Kolbe
across all social media.
Check out the event that's coming up this weekend.
It's really exciting.
The timing of it's perfect.
This episode is designed right to come out
for your episode, for your event with Drew.
By the way, where can people find Drew?
Where can they find his entire social?
Maybe they want to rent out a podcast studio
when they're in Miami.
I would tell anyone if you're gonna be in Miami,
make sure you're doing your podcast here.
The Move Miami, go to the social media
Go to Instagram go fight and true at the move Miami
He and I are putting this on together because he understands how to create a profitable business
Around what we're already doing the lights the camera the action the content
There's a revenue stream right here for you that he's gonna teach you how to do it yourself
You have a studio may not be this big
for you that he's going to teach you how to do it yourself. You have a studio, it may not be this big, but you can find four people who will probably
pay you to use your studio that now make your studio free or revenue.
So again, The Move Miami right here in Miami.
If you're here, make sure you're renting.
I mean Drew got so busy, he had multiple studios, now he's getting the keys to a bigger studio.
Like it's just, it's been amazing to watch what he's built.
The best podcast studio in the country.
All right guys, check out the money Mondays.com.
Have discussions with your friends, family, and followers from your past,
present, and future about money.
We can't keep thinking that it's rude to talk about money.
We have to have these discussions with your friends and family about bills,
taxes, accounting, debt, loan, lease a car, buy a car.
There's so many questions that we have.
Talk about it.
It's important.
It will change our society if we can have open discussion about money.
Appreciate you guys.
Visit us at themoneymondays.com.
Check out Justin Kober across social media.
Drew's the move, and everybody in between.
And check out the Cash Flowing Conference
coming up this week.
["Money Mondays"]
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Money Mondays.
I have a guest here that I've known for many, many years from live events, from the podcast
space, from mutual friends and everything in between.
But as you guys know in the Money Mondays, we cover three core topics, how to make money,
how to invest money, how to give it away to charity.
So what I want to do, as you guys know, is I'm going to have Adam do a quick two-minute
bio.
But first, what I want to talk to you guys about is it's super, super important and why
this podcast exists is you have to have discussions with your friends, family and
followers about money. We grew up thinking it's rude to talk about money. I think that's
ridiculous. You got to talk about loans, finances, taxes, leases, understanding why groceries
are so expensive. What's inflation like, we have to be able to talk about money because
it's real life. It's part of your daily life is It's paying bills, paying your card note, paying rent.
What if your friend borrows 300 bucks?
How do I ask for it back?
These are things that go on in our real lives
and no one talks about it.
We just graduated 18 years old and they throw us out
into the world and even in college,
they don't teach us about money.
And so that's why I'm proud of this podcast
because of the amount of discussions that happen
due to the people that are on this podcast,
like my friend Adam over here.
So what I'm going to have him do is give a quick two minute bio
so we can get straight to the money.
So I love the fact that I'm being interviewed by you
because when I first met you, it would have been 20,
I want to say 2018-ish.
At that event.
And I was, yeah, at the event here in Miami
and I was interviewing you.
At the one hotel.
About money, exactly.
Second floor one hotel.
And I was just starting my show show first time I met Roger Rojas
By the way, same day. That's his brother right there. My friend Gio
That's what the worlds are colliding and I just I had the 20 year anniversary with Iree about a party
We threw when I was in the nightlife world. It's a very
fortuitous meeting right here, but yeah, I'd started a money show in
2017 right around that time
I'd started a money show in 2017 right around that time.
Gio right there, Roger's brother was the producer and I was breaking into the money game.
But prior to that, it's so funny
how you evolve as a content creator,
as evolve as just a human, you know, living your life.
But I grew up here in Miami
and if you asked any of my friends
if Adam would be talking about money
My Instagram is sauce talks money my show, you know sauce money like I'm on PBD like we're talking business and money
They'd be like that broke mother. What but I grew up here in Miami. I was
Jack of all trades nightlife kid tried to I was doing stand-up comedy, I tried to become a sports agent, I tried to become a real estate agent, I was doing sales, I was a substitute teacher.
At 25, I was my brokest friend, crashing on couches, making no money whatsoever, but establishing great connections and understanding the value of relationships. So I'll never forget, I grew up here in Miami.
A lot of people are like, if you ever talk to people from Miami, they're like,
so where are you from? I'm from Miami.
It's like, where are you from? Miami.
It's like, where are you from? Yeah, I moved here from Cleveland like four years ago.
It's like, yeah, from Miami, bro.
So I grew up in Miami in the 80s and I was the black,
like my family was the black sheep that moved out of Detroit, Minneapolis
into Miami, but I always had great relationships and then I said one of my good friends Mikey's if he ever sees this
He's like, what's up, Adam? I just made 70 grand. Well, I was like this is
2006 yeah
2006 I'm like, oh you made 70 grand. He's here. That's pretty cool. He goes, 2006. I'm like, oh, you made 70 grand? That's pretty cool. He goes, this year,
I made 70 grand this paycheck. It was like my Wolf of Wall Street moment where I was like, you show me a paycheck, 70,000 dollars, I put my job at work for you. So that's literally what I did.
And it's so funny when I saw that scene in Wolf of Wall Street. I did that. So I moved out of Miami, got a job in Boca. I was a nightlife guy with my good friend Keith Menon. And I was working with Alan Roth and Tommy Pooch. I was doing all this, you know, in my in my mid 20s. I read was throwing our DJing the the the parties that we threw just 20 years ago, literally. And I said, I got to get to Miami
because I just was not focused.
I was just making no money.
It was sort of going nowhere.
And I got a job as a cold caller
at a startup financial firm and moved up to Boca,
got focused to all the young men out there.
It's play the long game. For know, for your first 20 years of your
life, don't screw it up. Don't go to jail. Don't get a DUI.
Don't get arrested. Don't die. Your next 20 years, try to make
some frickin money. And then there's a, you know, two more
phases after that we'll talk about as far as far as
philanthropy. But went up to Boca, worked at a company I
still 18 years later run the firm, the sales at the firm.
My first year, I made $5,000, Dan Fleischman.
$5,000.
The whole year.
The whole year.
But they told me, stick it out.
You got this.
Create relationships.
Keep calling.
You'll make six figures.
The most I've ever made in my life up to this point at age 26 was $20,000.
I was not a money guy whatsoever.
Boom, I stick it out, grind, and the next year make 100 grand.
Oh my God, it was the coolest thing I've ever had.
People say like, fast forward 10 years later, I'm 35, I became a millionaire, playing the long game.
They said, how cool is it to become a millionaire? I go, let me know the coolest thing I've ever had
in my life. The coolest feeling I've ever had in my life. I was 27 years old, and I
had 10 grand in the bank for the first time in my life. And I thought it was the coolest
kid in the world. And I was dating a girl at the time. And I remember going to the ATM
to pull out a couple hundred bucks. And I accidentally dropped the receipt. And I was like,
Oh, babe, can you grab that? It was like, you know, 13 grand in there. She's like, Oh, I was like,
that's right, baby baller alert. So I stuck it out. I became an expert at this very specific thing
in finance, wholesaling, insurance products. And every year my income grew and grew and grew and
grew. And I developed a reputation. That's why I met Patrick bed David at an insurance conference.
In 2012, we curated a relationship.
And then he kind of inspired me to start doing content.
You were one of the first guys I ever literally interviewed literally at that at that event
at the one.
And then in 2020, after like probably six months of sort of negotiating
with Pat kind of figuring out what that would look like. I became the first talent that
value tainment Patrick by David signed I moved to Dallas and we started the PBD podcast and
the rest is history but to this day that 10 grand I had to my name was the coolest thing
I've ever freaking had so everything else here is just icing on the cake.
So fun fact that Wolf of Wall Street line is one of my favorites ever.
I did podcast number one for the Wolf of Wall Street.
With Jordan Belfort.
Yes.
Amazing.
I kept pushing him to you got to start a podcast and so I got to be episode number one.
Okay.
This episode is about you.
Yeah.
It's about us, Dan.
It's about you. Yeah, it's about us, Dan. It's about us. So on the make money side, talk to us about what do you think
holds people back from making money?
Is it mentally, emotionally, their environment?
What do you think holds people back from actually going out
there and finally making real money?
So everything is about knowing who you want to be and having
a system.
So if you go to college, the easiest thing you can do is
understand the ROI of your major. Pretty simple. All right,
if you're going to become a career as an editor, what do
editors make? Right? What do lawyers make just kind of
understand what an engineer makes? What like what are you
going to make in your field? If you're an entrepreneur, that's
a totally different thing. You might make nothing,
you might make millions, you don't know. So it's sort of
rolling the dice. As far as making money, the best advice I
can give is this. I told you the story I went from being a broke
jack of all trades, to becoming a specialist at one thing, you
know, should you be a generalist? Or should you be a
specialist? So I can tell you conclusively being here in Miami
I meet so many people that do several things
And you don't know what's real and what's not real. You'll meet a guy. He's like, what's up, man?
I just want to let you know like I'm a
I'm a crypto guy, but also I'm a promoter at the club and also this weekend. We're taking the yacht out
I'm a yacht captain. Also. I do a blackjack game at my house every single night. I'm DJ and every Wednesday night at Bayole if you want to come by
When a Friday nights, I'm gonna be over at 11. I'm at the door guy there
It's like and he's like by the way, if you're looking to buy a house, I'm the real estate guys
Like which one are you bro?
And that was me when I was 25 years old not so much all those but I went from the job to job to job to job and I was not I didn't have a reputation
Which is a very important word reputation for any one particular thing other than like Adam knew people and he was cool
And then eventually I became a specialist at one thing
I've been doing that for 18 years and I'm very proud to say I'm in the finance world the insurance world
The wealth management wealth planning, estate planning world. I know anything there is to know
about that and you know the thing with that is that's what I do. It's not who I am but
it's very important to be known for one thing and then branch out from there. Everybody I speak to,
especially young people, are so obsessed
with having multiple streams of income. I got to have a second stream of income. I got to have a
side hustle. I got to have all these things. What about just one major stream of income?
Your primary income. What about that? Because anytime you're going to get a side hustle, a side
job, more than likely you're not great at that one thing. That's why it's a side gig.
So you're going to trade your time for money and you're never going to get ahead
because all you're doing is just working W2 or 1099 and working those hours.
So what I would say is just, why don't you just focus 80 hours a week at one
thing to make money and be known for that one thing.
So that to me is the key to making money is be awesome at one thing.
The only caveat is if you're awesome at that one thing, maybe you're a teacher.
Teachers don't make a lot of money.
Maybe you're an editor.
Editors don't make a lot of money.
So be very, very cautious and be very mindful of the career you're going into.
And is money your top priority? Maybe health is your top priority.
Maybe being having time with the family is your top priority.
But for a man, I would say that money should be your top priority.
So that's what I got.
So on the investing side,
started to make some money, started to dive deep into insurance, started, okay, I made $100,000, then maybe it's $140,000, maybe it's $180,000.
Start to go through life and like, wow, I got humongous.
You finally get to a capital place where I can actually start investing in something.
How do you decide when there's real estate and restaurants or I can invest in the music business with my friend over here or my buddy's got a clothing line or I could buy crypto or I could day trade or I could do
the stock market.
There's so many different options.
How can someone think about how they can figure out where do they want to invest into?
Yeah, the this is something that I had to figure out because I remember it would have
been 2008.
I'd already been in the finance world for a couple of years.
I was starting to make money.
And one of my my mentor who's now my partner,
said to me, like, hey, how much money did you lose
in the stock market?
After the Great Recession, I go, no, no money.
I don't have any money in the stock market, zero.
And he goes, well, now's a great time to buy.
I said, what do you mean?
He goes, everything's on sale.
Everything's 50% off.
I said, I don't even know what that means.
Couldn't spell a 401k. But I was smart enough to maybe say,
all right, let me start this 401k thing.
And then every year since then, I've maxed out my 401k.
At the time, I wasn't making,
I was making under the income threshold.
I started a Roth IRA,
but it's building an investment foundation.
So everyone, you know, I'm not a real estate investor.
In fact, these days, I highly advocate that most young people, young men, do not become
a real estate investor.
That's not where you start.
You can work your way up to it.
But what's worked for me is...
So one of the things I say with money is have a low overhead and high flexibility.
Things are moving so fast these days.
AI, virtual reality, what's going on, UBI, right?
You don't know what's happening right now.
You might be living in Boston, now you're moving to Austin, now you're moving to Miami,
now you got a job in LA.
If you're 24, 26, 28, dude, you don't know where you're going to be living next year.
Why do you need to buy a house?
Right.
Straight up for sure.
You don't have a family.
You don't have kids.
What do you care about neighborhoods?
What are you paying property taxes?
Everyone has been fooled to think, well, renting is just throwing away money.
Maybe if you're not saving and investing, then yeah.
But if you have enough like gumption to be like, no, have a budget, understanding debt, understanding income, understanding savings, you can have a plan.
Now, eventually, when you get married and have kids, you want to pick out a neighborhood and start a family, go buy a freaking house.
But that should not be step one.
Step one should be save some money.
I say 10 grand.
Step two, start a retirement fund, right?
Because you're 30 now, you're going to be 50, you're going to be 70.
That's just a fact of life.
No, but you know, life is short, I could die.
Statistically, you're not going to freaking die at all.
Statistically, you're going to live to age 98.
God bless you.
So start with that and then work your way up.
And then you started getting to ETFs, you get into index funds,
you get into mutual funds
And then you're like, you know what? Maybe I'm in real estate. I actually own real estate
You're like what do you might be saying? You know you own real estate. Yeah, it's called REITs real estate investment trust
Did you don't want me screwing in light bulbs? You don't want me fucking changing toilets. You don't want me painting walls
I want none of that but I'll invest in commercial real estate cool because I do believe in the asset class
But over time people are people don't understand. What do you think the historical rate of turn of real estate
is versus the stock market? Stock market actually returns double what real estate returns, but people
because they don't understand the stock market. And I understand that it's very complicated,
especially since the wolf of Wall Street days, because you might have Jordan Belfort call you
up try to sell you a pink sheet and you get ripped off and you lose 20 grand. You're like, I can't take this change anymore
Shout out to you Jordan Belfort. Show me 70 grand. I quit my job. I work for you. So
People want tangible people want real
Estate right but for me, it's the stock market and then from there you get comfortable with taking risk
everything investing then you know this whether it's starting a business whether it's's investing in the stock market, whether it's crypto, it's risk
versus reward. So what's risk? The lower the risk, the lower the reward. The higher the risk, the
higher the reward. You want to buy Dogecoin and if it pops, you might have a big reward, but you're
also risking, right? But if you want to put it into CDs or bonds and cash,
it's very low risk, it's very low reward.
So everything's correlated with that.
So it's understanding that ultimately,
the number one thing you could do with money is
try to make a little bit more and save a little bit more
and invest a little bit more every single year.
The compound interest effect.
What's the Warren Buffett rule? Rule number one, don't lose money. a little bit more and invest a little bit more every single year. The compound interest effect.
What's the Warren Buffett rule?
Rule number one, don't lose money.
Rule number two, don't forget rule number one, guy.
So there's so many people I know that, you know, you ever had a car that just didn't
work, it would stop, it would start, you would have to take them to the shop and you go again
and then you know, you get a car wash, it looks good and then stop.
Like, that's the last thing you want with your money. You make a hundred grand, you quit, you got to start a job, it doesn't work and then you know, you get a car wash, it looks good. And then stop like, that's the last thing you want with your money.
You make a hundred grand, you quit, you got to start a job.
It doesn't work.
And then you got to get a new job after that and all your changing careers.
So if you can just slow and steady win the race, um, and build wealth over time,
you've seen the, um, speaking of Warren Buffett, you've seen like the picture
with him and Bill Gates and it's like, uh,? No, but they're just wearing like just normal clothes.
And it's like these guys are worth hundreds of billions of dollars, no Gucci belt.
So some people out there are so obsessed with looking rich rather than being wealthy.
So I made the determination when I started to make money.
I'd rather just fucking be wealthy than look rich.
And you know, if you can be comfortable in your own skin and not have to like
keep up with the Joneses, man, what a feeling right there.
So anytime that I started to make money, there's, I had days for, you know,
the 70,000, like there's been, um, opportunities, big opportunities don't
come up all the time. Now there's people I hang out with that are billionaires.
And like, but I'm, I'm not a a billionaire Yeah, I'm worth a couple M's whatever it is
But big paychecks don't come all the time a couple times
I got a paycheck for a quarter million dollars in a month. That's a pretty good. It's amazing
And I didn't pop bottles at the club. I didn't go out I
Maxed out my 401k. I bought some assets, you know, maybe I went to a nice dinner with my girl,
whatever it was. But I realized, dude, there's gonna be rainy
days. So now, I find myself what I call chilling. And chilling is
when you own your time. So I developed something when I was
doing everything with you and interviewing people on money, I
said, I was studying all these people because I worked in finance and
I was all, all I was doing was man on the street interviews.
Geo remembers I was doing man on the street interviews.
I was interviewing anyone I possibly could ask about money.
Financial advisors, rappers, ballers, college kids, homeless guys, whatever.
Tell me something about money. Tell me something.
And basically I kind of like AI'd it before AI.
And I said, everything comes down
to these six principles of wealth.
And I developed what I call the six principles of wealth.
And principle number six is what I call chilling.
And chilling is when you own your time.
It used to be called retirement,
but you can be retired before 65. I found myself chillin'
at 35. So step one is having a game plan for your money, aka a budget. Step two is not
making sure that you're not losing the money game or losing the interest rate game debt.
Step three, my slogan, save that money. Step four, grow your money over time. Principle
number five is protect your wealth. And if you can do all that year in
and year out year in and year out, you'll end up becoming
chilling. I found myself chilling at age 35. I said look
at me 25 I was broke as a joke. 35 millionaire. Okay. And I'm
like, wow. And I don't have to go into the office every day at
a nice little exit from the company. And then I came back. I'm working remote. I can go anywhere I want to go.
I have all this deal flow coming in. No debt, tons of cash saved up.
I'm already invested. I'm maxed out all my stuff. My assets are protected.
What do I want to do with my free time?
That's the number one question you should ask yourself to figure out where you're
going is if you had 10 million bucks in the bank you
What would you do with all your free time?
once you identify what that answer is you can kind of
Like back into what you want to do when you make all the money and Dan everyone says the exact same three things
so
Anyone asks this the exact same three things if you had 10 million bucks in the bank, what
would you do with all your free time if you were chilling?
What do you think the three things are?
What do you think?
Play golf.
Okay.
Watch TV.
Okay.
Hang out with your family.
Not bad.
Everyone says the exact same three things.
Number one, they want to travel.
Everyone I talk to wants to travel.
I want to see the world.
I want to go.
I said, that's great.
After you're done traveling, what are you going to do?
Because if you anytime you've been on vacation, what's the thing you start thinking like a
weekend?
I just want to go home.
You know, like I'm done with this vacation.
It's great.
But whether it's a week, whether it's a month, that's number one.
Number two, you said golf, right? Golf, whether it's golf, whether it's painting, whether it's photography, whether it's stand up comedy, it's something you're passionate about, you would do for free. For me, it was, I was a stand up comedian, I wanted to do something sort of like what we're doing right now.
Like you enjoy this.
Like you're not doing this to make money.
I already know that.
That's free.
There's no ads.
Exactly.
You enjoy this.
You want to help people.
And then the third thing is literally you want to give back and help people.
So I found myself, I said, I'm chilling.
What do I want to do with my free time?
I've done all the traveling.
I did the St.
Bart's thing.
I've done the Ibiza thing. I've done the Mykonos thing.
I've done, I just want to stay in Miami.
Cool. That's number one.
Number two, what am I passionate about?
Passion about just hanging with my boys,
shooting the shit, talking. I like it.
All right, cool.
And number three is give back.
And exactly what you're doing now,
I started just basically teaching people about money
and the pitfalls and the mistakes that I saw in the nightlife world in Miami.
Someone gets a $10,000 check.
They spend it at club live.
No offense, Dave Grutman.
And then they're broke the next day.
What, why?
What?
Play the long game, buddy.
So, um, now I find myself chilling and because I was chilling and I could have
done whatever I wanted to do when the opportunity to move to Dallas to team up with PBD came up, I was like, all right, cool.
See you next week.
He's like, what do you mean?
You don't got to.
I was like, no, I'm good.
I'll see you.
So for me, it's getting to the point where you can own your time.
And when you can own your time, you have options and you have leverage. You can do what you want.
So that to me is what I call investing.
You invest in yourself, you invest in assets
and you get to a point where you can just do what you want
with your free time, you're chilling.
Why do you think that people should incorporate charity
either into their business or into their households?
So whether it's a religious component, whether it's a social component, whether
it's you're an empathetic person, helping others just feels good.
You know, Americans do that more than anybody, I want to say.
I'm sure you know the stats on this.
I think Americans contribute to more
philanthropic endeavors than any maybe any country in the world, you know, we talk about here in America how we're like, we're fat We're lazy. We only care about ourselves. We're entitled. It's like yeah, but we'll give money to people. Sure. So in
Christianity, it's called tithing in Judaism. It's called Siddhaka and
you give to the unfortunate and you know, the the famous phrase, it's better to give than receive.
There's a lot of truth to that.
What you're doing right now, you're giving back and teaching what I'm doing, giving back,
helping, whatever.
There's a genuine fulfillment by helping others.
Yeah, once you have all your needs met, life's good, you're giving back,
you can give back. People want to help. You know, people say,
how do I get a mentor? It's like, just ask. People want to help.
We actually developed an entire app called Manect for people who want to give
advice. Right now you're going to pay for the advice, but
they set their rates at what they
want to do. But just like when I said, chilling, anyone I asked, they said the exact same three
things. They want to travel, they want to do something they're passionate about, and they want
to do something. So for me, I would always volunteer to Special Olympics growing up. Every year,
my dad would take me. And all of a sudden that rubbed off on me and all my friends are running
the Special Olympics. You know that, G. And some people want to go donate to the homeless. Some people want to go help
you know abused animals, whatever it is. You have a heart. You have a you know mind, body, soul.
Everyone wants to give back. You know Dan, when I first met Dan, I'll tell you the story how I
first met Dan and I was like, who is this guy? I interviewed
you that one time, I didn't know much about you. And then that same weekend, you hosted a lunch
at Swan. Okay. I was like a last minute invite, like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, if you want to come,
because I ran into what I was living at the marquee.
Yeah come to the thing and my friend Olivia almost uh it was like yeah come you come with me.
And I remember getting there a little bit late the food just got there.
You said hey guys thanks for everyone coming here.
I really appreciate you coming out.
Have a great meal. I'm out.
And you left.
And I remember saying the guy just paid for the meal like I'm out. And you left. And I remember saying, the guy just paid for the meal, like,
and just left. And they're like, yeah, that's just Dan, bro. That's what he does. I said,
what do you mean that's what he does? Doesn't even take a bite of the pasta. You're like,
well, maybe he took it to go back or something like that. But I was like, what a freaking
guy. Unbelievable. I think about that. Because you've done that multiple times.
And some of us are lucky enough to stick around and actually
have a meal with you.
And it's great.
But the reputation that Dan has of giving back,
I can't tell you what that does for someone like you
when you're not around.
You know, they're saying things in front of someone's face,
but then complimenting behind their back, they'll never know, but that word travels.
You know, so you're hearing this on the podcast now.
People, when I sing Dan Fleischmann's name, they're like, oh dude, love Dan. He's the best.
What he does. You were telling me how like homeless stuff, LA, backpacks, all these things you were doing the first time.
What was that? Model Citizen Fund. models. What a model citizen you are
So can I tell you my three Rs of life?
Okay, and I feel like you embody this I said
Here are the three Rs of life the three Rs of success
This is how I built who I am and I know it's how you built you are
Anyone who's successful has these three Rs. I guarantee it if they're the type of person we're talking about number one is
relationships You understand that the relationships or Anyone who's successful has these three Rs. I guarantee it if they're the type of person we're talking about number one is relationships
You understand that the relationships or partnerships
Is
The foundation of anything, you know what business no matter what business you're in you're in the people business people like doing business with people
They like at some point you might have a better product than somebody or a better price. If they just like the other person better, they're going to choose the other person.
Relationships are everything.
No matter what you do, if you strip away everything else, the cars, the clothes, the fun, the mansions,
you'd rather just sit in a random restaurant with your best friends than at a mansion with people you don't like.
It's relationships are the foundation of everything. So that's so important and
fostering those relationships. There's people in Miami I've known for literally 40 years. I ran into a guy in the club last night. I haven't seen him in six years. I went to kindergarten with him. He had bottles clubs.
him. He had bottles, clubs, Adam, what's up? Relationships. So important. That's the first R. R number two, reputation. So we
all have a reputation, good or bad. You know, it'll take you
30 years to build your reputation. And overnight, your
reputation is gone. You know, what's the there's a famous
joke, like, you know, there was a guy who was a famous bridge
builder, he built 1000s of bridges. And then one time he fucked a goat. He was no longer a bridge builder. He was a goat fucker
So we've seen what happens whether it's Bill Cosby whether it's Harvey Weinstein whether it's Jeffrey Epstein
Whoever it is. Did he now whatever it is you think they're getting their reputation back?
It's not gonna happen
So your reputation to develop over time and what happens is when you have a good reputation people are gonna
Start talking about you behind your back in a good way. Like I said Dan Fleishman, who is this guy?
Oh, bro, Dan's the best. He comes out to all these things. What a guy. I'm like, oh this guy's amazing
and then words gonna travel and that's who you are and then
the third R
Which apropos is revenue.
You got to make some money, dude.
You could be the nicest guy in the world.
You can have all the friends in the world.
You can have the greatest reputation if you're broke.
You can't even help yourself.
You can't help the people around you.
So revenue and money and profit is very important.
Show me someone poor that's changed the world.
Jesus? Gandhi maybe, but I know tons of rich people that change the world and change their family tree and change their family legacy.
It's super important.
Your baby, your girl.
What's her name?
Ariana Ocean.
Ariana Ocean.
Ariana Ocean doesn't even realize how lucky she is. Because of the reputation and the relationships
and the revenue that daddy's done. So here she is. She's one. Hold this sheet. Eight months. Eight
months. Sorry to fast forward. She has no idea she's going to grow up and she's going to have
access to anything she wants because of the three Rs that daddy's done. And what a lucky girl she is.
And she never has to worry, knock on wood, that daddy ripped something off or did something.
Like daddy did it the right way.
You're so lucky, Ariana.
One day you'll see this and you're like, oh, thanks, Uncle Adam.
But it's incredible.
And now it's so funny.
You know, when I started the show, it's so funny that Geo is here.
You know, one of the first times like good things take time for anybody for a reputation. I remember one of the first times I
tried to film the show, I kind of like got like access somehow
into Grant Cardone's 10x event, right? And I knew some people,
we got in whatever, and then we snuck our way kind of into like
the the VIP VIP
We didn't have like credentials and security's like hey, who are you? Who are you with?
I was like, oh, I don't know whatever
And they're like what they threw us out of there
Right. Do you remember this and geo goes we got too close to the buffet bro. Don't stay away from the free food
but
It was just it was a learning lesson. It was like, okay
Good things are going to take time. It was one was one little thing wasn't that big of a deal, but imagine
if you rip someone off if you screw someone over if you
Do business the wrong way
in
The internet age of social media age where we are now you're finished
finished so In the internet age, the social media age where we are now, you're finished. Finished.
So the reputation, the relationships and the revenue, that to me is the cornerstone of
any successful man at this point.
Hi guys.
As you know, the main concept here is for you to have these discussions with your friends,
family and followers.
I want you to check out Adam across social media.
What is the main way they can find you?
I would say you can check me out on Valuetainment or across every platform. I think across all platforms.
Between all our shows, all our pages, we're 30 million across all pages. If you put Valuetainment or PBD podcast, it'll pop up.
Where do they find the next? Or you can find my next you can download it at the on Apple or Android.
And that's something I'm very proud of that's something that I've helped create with Patrick.
And it's, it's where you can get advice from experts in any field at the tip of your fingertips,
you know, if you've been in the social media world, you've been in, I assume, email marketing as well.
I think you were staying at the guy's house
that was an expert email marketing.
You know, the stats are ridiculous.
2% of emails are returned or whatever it is are opened
or DMs are open, whatever it is.
99% of people respond on Monek.
So we're proud of that
and we're building something very special at
Valuetainment. And I'm very happy to be a running mate with Patrick Bedd-David.
Can I give one last thing? I know we're wrapping up. Everyone out there wants to
be the man. I want to be the man. I want to be the man. I want to be the man.
Very hard to be the man. For sure. It's very hard to be a billionaire.
It's very hard to be that dude.
What about being the guy next to the dude?
What about that?
Where I found success is not being the number one guy.
Anything I've ever done that's turned out to be great,
I've always been the number two guy.
Whether it's with Patrick Bette David,
whether it's in nightlife here with Keith Menon,
whether it was literally being the groomsman with Kim, with Chris Humphries when he married
Kim Kardashian, even when I was playing basketball, whenever I was the best player, we would lose.
Whenever I was the second best player on our high school team, we would go into States.
So it's very important to recognize what role you are in a company.
Because if you think you're the man, but you should be the number four guy
or the number two guy or the number eight guy,
you're gonna have a learning lesson.
So I'm very happy to be very comfortable
that the number two guy.
So I'll be Dan's number two any day of the week.
Appreciate it.
So check out Adam, Value Tainment,
Manect all across social media.
Have discussion with your friends,
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It's super, super, super, super critical. Check us out on themoneymondays.com and we'll see you guys next family, and followers about money. It's super super super super critical.
Check us out on the money mondays dot com and we'll see you guys next Monday.
And save that money.