The Money Mondays - Jay's Prehistoric Pets & Tim Kennedy Reveal Their Money Secrets | E3

Episode Date: March 7, 2023

Jay's Prehistoric Pets founder Jay Brewer started from humble beginnings and has since gone on to create a successful business helping protect and preserve wild reptiles and other exotic animals. Founder of Jay's Reptile Zoo, a donation-based animal sanctuary in Fountain Valley, California, Jay has over 600 animals on display representing more than 100 species and shows his millions of fans online how to handle, protect and care for these rare reptiles. In this episode, Jay shares how he started with $500 to his name as an adopted child but went on to create sustained and wildly profitable success in the exotic animals space. Tim Kennedy MMA and UFC fighter, also shares his secrets to success. As a master sergeant with the US Army, he has logged over 20 deployments, from advising and counter-human-trafficking operations to counter-drug and counter-poaching missions.  Tim has a wealth of knowledge in the field of tactical training, mixed martial arts and self defense - so much so that he's built a solid brand and business around his name, and is often sought out by brands and sponsors. In this episode, he shares his secrets to overcoming adversity and forging mental toughness while achieving your goals. --- The Money Mondays is a business podcast here to teach you how to make money, invest money, and donate money. Hosted by serial entrepreneur Dan Fleyshman, the youngest founder of a publicly traded company in history, this money podcast gives you an exclusive behind the scenes look at how the wealthiest celebrities, entrepreneurs, athletes and influencers make, invest and donate money. If you want to learn more business and investing while you work to improve your financial life, you're in the right place! Dan Fleyshman, The Money Mondays Learn more here: themoneymondays.com

I always tell everybody a good investment is just when you don't lose money. Because then when you actually make money, you get to keep it. Right. When you cost it, if you make big, risky investments for me, then it's like, you go backwards so far that it takes just to get back to zero. And so I like to be a little bit more careful than most people. I've never been a big stock market person. I always wished I was, but so many times I look at my friends and I go,

oh my god, I'm so glad I wasn't. You know what I mean? But I've always invested in myself. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Money Mondays. I have a very, very special episode for you today. We have combined the two biggest animal influencers together in the same RV motor home. We have the real Tarzan, hundreds of millions of views. Jay, for your story pets, hundreds of millions of views together.

We might get one billion views. All right, so the money, Monday's, we talk about three topics. How do you make money? How do you invest money? And how do you give it away to charity? So let's get right into it. Jay, give us the two-minute bio. How the heck did you end up here with a snake around you?

Two-minute bio. Well, I started out as a poor little kid, unfortunately, or fortunately, actually, I would say now, which ended up making me need to do something because I didn't have bicycles and all the cool toys that everybody else had. So I found myself in irrigation ditches till two in the morning.

Didn't do so good in school. I didn't want to get out of bed. I did caught lizards, frogs, turtles, all kinds of odds and ends and it really built a passion for animals. Where are we? We're actually at my one of my dream situations was you know when I was about 8 or 9 there was a place called the alligator farm and it just blew my mind that giant crocodiles and alligators and Orange County land got so expensive that they just had to leave because they just didn't have enough money and It was always a dream of mine to be able to one day one day one day Everything starts with the dream. I believe deep. And if you don't have a deep enough dream,

then you won't probably fulfill it because you have to have enough passion to get through the impossible because I don't think anything good is just gonna be handed to anybody. Yeah. And your work, and your location is a true destination. Like people flying from all over the planet,

I've seen so many influencers, celebrities, families. Right now there's a bunch of kids running around. Like you have every spectrum. Like when did this become real? When did the store, when did the reptiles do become real? So I always like to say I started out when I was young and good looking. So it actually took me about 35. It took me 25 years to actually start to see the fulfillment of the dream. 25 year overnight success. Yeah, 25 years and that's when I started to really have some success.

Of course, the cool part was, is despite not having money, I've had disability to find the amazing moments in every bit of my life. I've always thought, if you're going to work, you know, 50 years a week and to do a vacation for two years, I mean, two months, two weeks, I'll get that right yet. Why in the world, when I just flip that model and figure out a way to work less? Where you enjoy it?

And where I work doing something I love. And to be honest, besides some of the paperwork and the financial end of it, every minute of my job is not work, not one minute of it. I get to go all over the world, I get to do incredible things with incredible people, and somehow I use a term, living a dream. And for me, that is literally living the dream.

I mean, when I was the poorest portion of my life during the 06 crash, 07, and I ended up being able to go all like two major trips all over the world and do crazy stuff and I had no money. I was going I was you know doing it with that princess houses and all kinds of crazy stuff so you know it ain't about money but money is a part of that this planet's ran on yeah animals are hungry the food's expensive yeah that's the thing dreams are expensive. Yeah, for sure.

That's the truth. Why did you choose this animal? Well, you got 100, 200, 300 options there. Why this? Well, this isn't the only one today. Yeah. I got another fool in behind this. That's going to come out.

This is actually reticulated Python. And this is one of the passions I had to have a kind of an exceptional, unique passion for big snakes. They're probably the worst choice for a financial situation, but I think that if you're really gonna ever connect with finances, you're gonna have to first connect with your passion, because I really believe that,

and maybe money's, I mean, I think there's probably a lot of people going, what do you mean? Money is my passion, and that you know what? They have more money than I'll ever see, and that's awesome. But for me, it was about connecting with my real true emotions on the things that I love the most. And for some reason, I've always been attracted. I think you are too big dinosaur animals.

I mean, you know, like 2,500 pound crocodiles and, you know, giant sea turtles and huge snakes. Well Well the huge snakes were something that I specialized in and so my early stages was more of a focus of breeding the snakes to actually make the money for the dreams. Right. Because like this snake here has a bunch of special genes. This is not my founder type of snake because these snakes are caught in a while with different genetics. And instead of pulling animals out of the wild all the time, which who wants to do that, we can take captive animals that are threatened and being killed for their skins and all kinds of things.

And instead of them coming in for pet trade and all that kind of thing too, we took them and we bred them. I started off with an endangered species. It was my real true first connection going into this business. And it was an Indian Python. I almost had them dying overheated one time. And I remember I had this really expensive a Bino Burmese Python.

At the time they were $3,000. And for basically a young kid, three grand was everything. No, there's a ton of money. It was a nice car back then. And I went out there and it was overheated, but there I had this Indian Python that cost me 500 bucks. And it was like on the brink of death. And I was just like, Oh, God, please, I don't care. If one has to go, let the money go. I want this Indian Python to survive. It was, it really affected me. I mean, it actually makes me emotional.

It was that big of a deal that then. I'm surprised. I never really thought about how deep it was. That was the beginning of my real passion for animals. And then when I saw the first baby snake's hatch, it was just like a spiritual experience. Wow. Bringing life in and not, you know, it was just incredible.

Saving lives, protecting lives, creating new lives, and inspiring lives, the human lives that actually come here and see us. be honest. I'm I love animals, but people are my real passion If you I mean, you know people sometimes like oh man. I don't want to hear that Man, people are important and I I just think that relate because I was orphaned at 14 and my mom died when I was four I was adopted in the first place. I think I have a special connection with the fact that everybody's your family and that that is the most important thing is people and your relationship with them.

I think you must have that too because I notice that you do a lot of... I know, life's about people. Well, you put a lot of effort into raising money for great causes. I see you work with some incredible people. And that, that to me is like inspiring because I hope, you know, I've had a couple years of crazy money and I just like, I want to figure out a way to make them again now. Honestly, I don't need

money. I want to give it away. But I, you know, I need to have a couple more of those years. Of course. That being said, start little, it grows. Let's literally what the money Monday is about. Yeah. So we're gonna do a quick switch out because we have another guest animal that's here with us inside the RV motorhome. While we do the switch out, I'm gonna ask Tarzan, you also likes snakes.

Your recent video had 90 million views of you trying to hold on to it. Hold on. I'm freaking, like a King Cobra, what was that thing? Like, tell us about that. Yeah, I went to Indonesia and a home of the King Cobras and Reteculator pythons they these guys battle for territory. Oh my gosh So well when I want to retake a small and a king Cobras an adult

The king cobra praise on the Reteculator pythons so but once they reach a certain size they don't come really a food choice because they're just too big You know, but yeah, man that video came from me, you know, going on a trip over there. I actually called Jay when I was over there saying, Hey, I'm in Commodore Island. You got any friends over here? I can go visit. So, you know, I always call some of my old geez and old friends, you know, that have been around the world before and see they have any places that I should go like any hot spots

and stuff like that. So I ended up, I ended up going to a spot where right now in Indonesia, it's going on three, it goes six months dry, six months wet, and it's been three wet seasons in a row. So it hasn't been a dry season. So wherever there is land, tons of snakes. So my buddy's like, hey, I know a spot where my uncles live. When are we going? Whenever you want. 2023 is going to be a travel year for me. I like that. I like that. We're going to have to let go man. Make the ultimate

reptile animal collab. Yeah man. It'll be fun. Alright so we have a new guest. Can you tell us about this? Yeah this is actually coconut. Here you go. Yeah let me get some of that. Okay but watch out for her. She will bite. She can bite and she's apparently going to pee a little bit. There you go. Yeah, let me get some of that. Okay, but watch out for her. She will bite a little can bite and She's apparently gonna be a little bit there you go. It's beautiful man. Is that awesome or what? Yeah, talking about a dream That's $50,000 animal. Wow I think I'd ever even have 50 grand a rub that's what that's a money right there. I always say I rub together two pennies And they turn into nickels and then I rub together two nickels They turn into quarters and I rubbed together and they turn back the pennies but I never give up. Now they turn into coconut. Exactly. So what is coconut? Coconut is an albino

American out. He knows. Go ahead. Tell him. This is an albino American out. It looks so happy. Yes man. I mean, I'm getting to get any show. Always touching. I ain't growing up and not growing up before to buy. I was living before up and not growing up for the ball. Living for the ball decade now. And you see regular alligators, but when you see a bino, Luciste, even got pie alligators out there, not too. Absolutely. And they're just so funky to look at, man, you know.

It's a crocodile, and that's yellow. What? That was sick. Yeah, he's the thing you'll notice about animals and people that love animals. It'll take us right back to our childhood. I am and we connect with our we we love connecting in a lower more exciting, I mean, instant, instant energy.

Just go. So one thing I love about these alligators, they have a nictating membrane. So it's like a goggle that goes over their eye. That's cool. If you guys consume it, all right, let's see if we can see it. Oh almost. Right there. And know it's cool if you guys can zoom in on it. Let's see if we can see it Oh almost Right there and watch it come back open Nice and slow look at the thing there it is right there They go into water and that that nicotine membrane goes over there I said over it open your eyes under water and look around have built in goggles and their ears close. That's crazy man

So cool. I don't want to get in here, but right here is actually an ear. I've never seen the inside But somebody said they saw the inside and it's like a Martian's brain. Yeah, have you ever seen the inside of it? No, never Yeah, Chris was telling me wow man. All right, so we have three topics to go over otherwise I'll be talking about animals for the next 16 hours. Okay, how do we make money? That's always the exact thing. How do you make money? How do you invest money?

How do you give it away? So we're just going to ask real quick, rapid fire questions. How can people make money or how do you make money in the animal business? Well, a lot of people ask me how I got here. And they say, what did I go to school? I literally just doubled down on what I was good at. And I just carried it anywhere.

I could figure out a way to monetize it. I just tried to, like I said, I literally started breeding the pythons because of my passion. And the pythons turned into, I want to do education. And doing education pays decent too. You go to schools, you go to special events, you do corporate parties and events. And so I really kept it simple. I mean, I just thought, hey, you know, I see you doing some stuff that's so simple, but it adds up. I mean, the other day, if you, I always tell

everybody a good investment is just when you don't lose money, because then when you actually make money, you get to keep it. When you cost, if you make big, risky investments for me, then it's like you go backward so far that it takes just to get back to zero. And so I like to be a little bit more careful than most people. I've never been a big stock market person. I always wished I was, but so many times I look at my friends and I go, oh my god, I'm so glad I wasn't.

But I've always invested in myself. And that's really the truth. There's a long time friends and I go, oh my god, I'm so glad I wasn't. You know what? But I've always invested in myself. And that's really the truth. There's a long time ago when I started, I had a little pet store and a little pet store I decided, you know what, I'm looking for a niche market, quit trying to run an ad that one person out of 10,000 is gonna care, instead go buy something so cool and put it in enclosure and everybody's gonna talk about it.

And this is before social media. And eventually that model turned into the reptiles zoo. Yep. And so people get a come from all over the world. I mean, it's amazing. I have princes. I have all kinds of crazy. Everybody. I see. No, it's like from the poorest to the richest. I love it. To me, that is, you know, I, it's just incredible. I mean, I mean I remember one day I came to work and I a little girl run up to my leg you hug my leg and say oh I love animals and then in the afternoon I had a 60 year old man practically tears to meet me right and then in the evening I had Snoop Dogg right the rapper I do the rapper and then I had the biggest bodyguard in the whole place rapping his heart is around me hugging me and I thought how could it get better than this

forget money right I mean to be honest how could it get better than this? Forget money. I mean, to be honest, how does it get better than that? Every one of them willing, just to, you know, put themselves out to me, if you got community, you got everything. Absolutely. So you mentioned investing, my investment strategy

that I always preach about on stage over and over is called 40, 40, 20. Right. I do 40% low risk, 40% medium risk, 20% high risk, which is like the shot at glory. Hopefully it works out, you know? I agree with that. The 40% low risk, I'm hoping to make like five to nine percent a year.

It's not gonna make you rich, but it's just to kind of like take care of things, cover inflation, et cetera. The medium risk, the 40% here, this is where I like the most. This is real estate, the stock market, investing in cash flowing businesses like restaurants, drag cleaners, etc. I'm hoping to make 10 to 30% in that middle range right there. The 20% high risk, which is the fun part, you know, you cross your fingers and hope you're right. I'm hoping that these things over here, the low risk minimus, will cover that. Yeah, or you'll have a grand slam. Or you'll hit a grand slam. And it never takes, like I said, you never lose enough that you're, that's smart.

I mean, I listen to your, that, and I've literally this year, I'm going to try to engage more and more of that because I actually have money. And it's always better to never go all in on any one thing. Right. You know, I've had some big, big companies in the past, or publicly traded, huge poker site. And when you're all in on one thing, any little thing can change the entire market. We never expected the whole world to get shut down.

We never expected a whole industry to get shut down. You can't expect those things. And so that's why I'm preaching all the time and creating a whole podcast around it, talking about money, so that people start to make investing cool. So one thing I did do is a little bit of real estate. I have a second property.

And that's been good to me. For sure. And now I'm looking for a third property because I want to move into a third property and that's been good to me for sure and I've all and now I'm looking for a third property Yep, because I because I want to move into a third property. I'm hoping I mean, but I'm also Got my ear to the ground thinking it's not time But unless the right deal pops in there's gonna be some great deals in 2023. I think so really great deals I believe right. I've always done good with my real estate choices Even though I've never had enough money to get in whenever I did I

Went it went back on every time. The biggest thing is to stay calm in the midst of chaos. Everyone else is freaking out. You stay calm, wait for the right situation. Right? Pounds. It is funny because literally reptiles people say they're not smart. And I say, why don't you go try to catch us.

We have to use pesticides, traps, all kinds of things that gets a rodent. A snake doesn't even have hands, and they catch rodents for a living, because they're absolutely don't let an opportunity go by. And I have lived my life very much in the respects that when I see an opportunity, even if I'm a little scared, I take the risk. If there's an opportunity, I'm gonna take the risk.

That was the risk. You're gonna shake it off and you're gonna build it back up. No risk, no reward. If I never look back, I never look back. If it's a bad choice and it worked on wrong, that's okay. I learned, now maybe next time, I'm still gonna take the risk, but I'm gonna maybe be more calculated at it. So, I like that.

So Tarzan, hundreds of millions of views. How do you make money? Is it brand deals? Monks is rich. Yeah, Merge, you have a wild breed Merge. Did brands deals with Foot Locker and Arizona IST and Ignite, YouTube, Partnerships, Instagram Partnerships. So constantly turning that wheel, trying to figure out how I can say, yo, can I put ads

or commercial space on these videos? And also reinvesting in myself saying, it's Jay that, you know, there's a lot of times where I'll take branded trips and someone will pay for a trip. And then I'll take my money and go on a trip and there's no brands. Right. So people can get the full experience of, you know, having the Indonesia experience without having a commercial, saying, hey, shop their shirt. It's like, yo, this is straight animal, straight animal.

I don't know. I don't know. Well, it's only been like maybe three years. And you showed up, you had like 200,000 followers. Yeah, man. And you just kept knocking out the park. Out of park. Because you kept grinding.

You didn't care. You didn't care about instant success. But it came anyway. Yeah, man. And I think that, yeah, that's awesome. 5 million in a year, you know. So went from work in 725 an hour for six years at pet store plus You know weekend tips doing parties and stuff like that to making five hundred bucks for Instagram story

That's why I knew so much You know I give my weeks my weeks, you know more than a week's salary Doing it live in the dream living the dreams Beautiful man, all right, so this question is for both of you There are a lot of people that have animals, and there's a lot of people that try to be animal influencers. You guys have obviously become the Titans in the space. What is it that you think that makes you stand out

or what could people do to try to make better animal content? Well, to stand out is to be authentically yourself, you know? And like how Jay is, you know, he's a people person, he loves, that's what drives him. He's passionate. You can see, you know, he's a people person. He loves, that's what drives him. He's passionate. You can see, you know, he's crying talking about something happened 20, 30 years ago. You know, when you're yourself, and you can,

36 years ago, I wasn't even born yet. You know, you have to be 100% yourself. And people will gravitate towards you, you know, they're gonna feel something in common about what you're doing. And as far as animals, man, you gotta give them the best life possible. I see Jay do a lot of mukbangs with his animals. He gives them chicken shrimp fish, oysters,

and crabs and crayfish, you know, make sure your animals live in their best life, you know, because these animals are what make us cool. You know, we're not cool by ourselves. No. The animals make us cool, you know, so. Yeah, man. I always tell the videographers,

hey, 80% animal, try to make sure I'm in there somewhere. Because you know what, it's not about us. Life is not about us. If you make it all about you, you will never have relationships that matter. And it's really, I mean, I'm still the most impressive thing I ever see you do to be completely honest.

I mean, making money, I see, I meet so many billionaires rich people, but taking your money and investing into other people is epic. I mean, the toy drives, the, you know, the raise the money for orphans. Obviously orphans have a big spot in my heart. You know what I mean? I hope to do a nonprofit, you know, future soon and work towards unfortunately not as much animals as humans that just got a bad shake in life. You know what I mean?

You didn't have it too easy. I didn't have it too easy. And for some reason, I've noticed more and more that some of the most famous people didn't have it easy. Everybody thinks we all got it some handed down. So if you're an influencer, I think that at the end of the day, do it because you love it or you're wasting your time. Right. And wasting your time. I've seen so many people come because I think they're going to go

get rich. If you can't do it for free, you'll never do it for money. Because you'll just get tired because the money will, the money will no longer have the shine and add when you first got it. For sure. So we first moved here, six months old and we actually moved a few blocks from here. Right. You'll just get tired of it because the money will no longer have the shine and add when you first got it. For sure. We first moved here. I was six months old and we actually moved a few blocks from here. I'm not really close to here. Wow.

And I was there. I was eight years old. I had no money. Parents get divorced. I moved to San Diego. We're living in like this 85-year-old lady's extra room. So I never knew this. So I never knew this.

So I never knew this. So I never knew this. So I never knew this. So I never knew this. So I never knew this. So I never knew this. So I never knew this. So I like eight to 15, that literally no money. And we didn't even have anything. And so, you know, surviving on 20 grand a year for a family of four in Los Angeles. And as soon as I turned 15, I worked at Ruby's diner with the sailors cap on or to Qualcomm stadium. Be not it's cracker jacks here.

Worked for a stockbroker into the table three jobs at the same time saved up money. Like that made me who I am not having money made me who I am. It took me, it took me a while to realize that having the most, what I thought was the most unfair start in the whole world was my banage. Sure. Yeah. It was literally my banage in life. I, because I, I was, it was only up. Yep.

Only up. I mean, not only was it not only up, I knew what the bottom felt like. Right. And I didn't really wanna be there, but I was comfortable if I ended up there again. And that made me able to take risks that other people would never take. Cause I was like, you know what, I started 14 years old, no mom, no dad, nowhere to live,

no family of any kind. And dang it, I'm old enough now, if I have to start all over from scratch, I'll be fine. So I just do do I believe in really Whatever your convictions are stick to them. Yep. All right, so the third and final topic We talked about how to make money we talked about how you invest money How do you give it away and by the way when it comes to when I say give away money?

When it comes to charity? It's not just about the actual money. No, even though this is the money Mondays You can do charity with your social media power with your your efforts, with your cell phone, and just rallying the community together. Most of the charity events you guys see me post about, Thanksgiving food drives, toy drives, back to school drives, etc. That's just rallying the community together, whatever I buy or donate is optional. It's the community of 400 people showing up as volunteers. That's the work, that's the effort. So a lot of times, again, when we talk about giving away money to charity, not just about money,

it's time and energy as well. So for both of you guys, what is it, and what type of charities do you like, and what types of things do you want to get involved in, or already have gotten involved in? Start with you. So you guys both are from California. So I came here about like four or five years ago

for the first time, and I was actually homeless in Miami for a while. Maybe like about a year and a half, I slept behind under ground rubbed tiles and worked and I know a little bit of what you know is he riding. I thought you had an easier ride. But like I said, it always shocks me. Everybody has their stories to keep them going. So when I came to Cali, I seen Skid Row and it broke my heart, man. And later on down in the road it's some business with some guys, sell a merch and I had like some zebra print and cheetah print clothes and I overordered on a bunch of stuff, sold out all my stuff and

then I had like maybe like 15 grand worth of clothes left and I'm like man, you know, I don't want to sell it, I don't want to put it on sale, I drove up there packed it all up with the Skid Row and gave it all out. And it's one of the best feelings, giving back someone that didn't have clothes. And still to this day, I'll drive around skid row and I see a couple of shirts over there. And I'm like, damn, you guys still got those clothes from four years ago. And it always gives me that extra edge to give back. And we were just recently at the reptile show and someone had one of our shirts on.

I'm like, man, it just keeps that fire alive, you know? So just giving back whenever you can, man, it costs nothing to be nice, you know? I can't agree with them any, any more in the world. And one thing's been nice was having all these animals. I've been able to do a lot of fun events like, you know, autism. They do a thing at a couple of huge events. We do Ronald McDonald House, you know McDonald House, which is a great charity. I'm letting people that don't have the money be close to their kids being treated with cancer.

I really got a special place in my heart for underprivileged people. I mean, I don't know what you'd call them. People just didn't get a good fair shake. You know what I mean? Because I feel like they're capable of being the next most important people on the matter. And all they need is a little bit of hope, a little bit of belief. And I was lucky because I was a stubborn, honestly, natty little kid that just never took no. And when they told me I would never make it I never believed them and I spent my life proving them wrong, but some people it crushes them and so anyway that we can help my daughter is involved with a organization

Uh, that basically works in an area that's underprivileged. We'd love to give there and help there and so I just think that, like I said, I love animals and it doesn't mean I don't give money to animal stuff, but man, I want to say people too. I want to help people. You're not gonna say 20 million followers now. That's crazy. It's a crazy question. I love it. She's a little better looking than I am.

I didn't get mine with all my looks. I got mine with my cool amazing animals that I got to share. So what is the future hold for you? Well, I wrote a book. I helped to release it in 2023. It's kind of some of the tough amazing things that have my life. I literally consider my life a miracle. I've had so many things happen that were unexplainable, you know, the impossible over and over, and I want to tell a story on how it happened, and I've had a lot, and then also I'm working on a TV show on Roku, which is kind of exciting.

It's something I always wanted. Funny part is is I wanted it so bad And I didn't have it and when I wasn't that worried about it because I kind of made it Ta-da! It's just how life works. I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean life. I think that one thing What I've learned in life is the things you need you don't need Right and that sometimes we get overly focused on something that we think we need. And if we just go out and be ourselves and help other people, you know, you end up being exactly what you dream about. Yeah. It's just you have to let go and let it happen. And so that's that's a couple big things. Yeah. Hopefully maybe maybe another location in the near future. So, but we'll see. I kinda wanna work towards that charity thing first. I like it.

Tarzan, what's the future hold for you? Hey man, animals, you know? There's nothing, actually I was to it. I was born for the life of animals. They saved my life a long time ago. I hadn't really had a purpose until I figured out like I wanna be be hermetologist, when I was like three or four years old

and I just always stuck to that. So during my dark days and my darkest times, animals have fed me, kept me alive, kept me off the streets, kept me traveling around the world. Don't let this one take your hair. It's strong, right? Very strong, man. You think a little animal like this wouldn't be

as strong as strong Yeah, man. Just learning more you know, I want to travel more travel deeper you know meet more indigenous people Learn about animals and the natural habitats, you know I spent a lot of time in zoos and you know in captivity So when I get the go look at animals and learn from the natives and locals That's my life's mission man, you know and also help give back over there as well So so it's interesting is the money Mond's is meant for people to learn about investing and how to grow their wealth, et cetera. But I noticed with both of you,

if I handed you $100 million or you had $100, you both, I think, would have the exact same smile. Yeah. It would, I tell you, it would even change me 1%. The only thing is I'd be stressed out wondering where to give it to and do it and give it to somewhere it's gonna make a difference. That's the truth. That was one of the hardest things for me when I had a little bit of money

was like, oh my gosh, I want to be, I want to use this money like a good investment. You know, I mean, I don't care about it, but I care about the fact that you want it to do. You've done it, like I said, your perfect example of putting some effort into putting money in the future. Money is a tool. A lot of times, the whole concept also, the way I always end the podcast is I say it's rude to not talk about money. Right. And oftentimes people are like, oh, money is the root of all evil.

Look at the joy you guys bring to the world. Think about the billions of people that are going to see the content you create that brings them joy. There's money involved in that. You have, it's expensive to take care of the There's money involved in that. It's expensive to take care of. The hundreds of animals you both have, it's expensive. The overhead, the content, the creation, it's millions of dollars to run your guys' world.

So, millions. Right, and people are like, oh, you shouldn't make money off of this, or you shouldn't make money off of that. You have to have money as the tool to continue, to perpetuate what it is that you believe and what you're passionate about. And if you believe in what you're selling, it's root of you not

to sell it. So if you think you're good at your vitamin helps people, your energy drinks helps people, your health advantage helps people, it's root of you not to sell it. I think a lot of people are always scared. I don't want to sell. I don't want to be salesy. If you think your product helps someone, it's root of you not to sell it to them. You're back to genuine. Genuine is what everybody wants. They don't want, they just want the real, they want to know the real way to get healthy.

They want another real way to be happy. They want another real way to make money. They don't want gimmicks. They don't want fake. They don't, you know, they don't want the sales pitch. They just want to know the truth. You know, you said a good thing. Money is made, money is a tool.

Yes. You know, and people, people, people get used and really really the funny thing you use money and you don't use people Right All right guys you are watching the money Mondays we have a couple requests Please like and subscribe also we want you to share this content because we want to continue to teach people how to make money How to invest money and how to give it away? I'm here with our co-host the real tires inars in, Jay Priya's Torg Pets. Make sure to follow them on social media.

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Oh, man, this and this. All right, so 18 years and special forces, entrepreneurs have about 10 businesses that own holy and another eighth on a bunch in As an MMA fighter for a long time. So I found the UFC Strike Force IFL WC fought for a title a couple times and I have a one of the few fighters to have the amazing distinction of being a two-time title contender

But never being called champions. That's humiliating that's shameful. It's embarrassing. I'll call you champion the amazing distinction of being a two-time title contender that never been called champions. So that's humiliating, that's shameful, it's embarrassing. I'll call you a champion. Okay, here you go. And now, I own a private school and a defense attack training company, father,

that of four amazing, amazing kids, beautiful wife, and man, I'm just trying to make the world better place now. That's amazing. So, we only talk about three topics here. How do people make money? How do they invest money? How do they give it away to charity? So, we're going to walk through step-by-step those three topics.

We like to keep our podcast short, around 35 minutes. That way, you guys are working out or driving to work. You can listen to this in one sitting. So, Tim Kennedy What are some ways that people can make money or what are some ways that you like to make money? So on the investment side, I always have these three piece. I'm looking for purpose the person and then the plan If those thing the purpose first and foremost that's not aligned with who I am and the values that I share like we're never gonna be

You know good partners. That idea, the vision, the value, making sure, I have a really clear mission statement, whether you believe in divine intervention, what I believe I was put on this world for a very specific reason. If I'm going to partner with somebody or I'm going to be doing something in business, they better be aligned with that. So that purpose is a really big one for me. And the person, you know, every time that when I was fighting, I was living off while I was in the military. We were really frugal, we were really diligent and disciplined with our finances. So we had lots of extra money from when I was fighting,

and those three P's would be the way that we would invest that money. The person, we need to see that motivated, hardworking, great work ethic, organized, the person that's faithful in the small things is gonna be faithful in the big things. So that healthy person, they're getting up early, they're exercising, they're not eating crap,

they're not drinking every night, they're gonna not going out and blowing their money in the wilder partying. Just being a good person is a really key indicator about how that person's gonna be as a business partner. He like, are they a faithful spouse? Are they kind of their kids? Are they kind of their animals?

You know, like they're just an asshole. I don't wanna be a business with an asshole. So between that person, that person, that purpose, and then lastly is the plan. I want legitimate plans. So like, hey, I have this idea. An idea not being able to be executed on the operational side, it's useless. So that plan of, here's my real business strategy. Here's how I'm going to land out. This is where I'm giving the capital from. This is how we're going to grow. This is how we're going to scale it. When you have those three things in combination that are happening in a really cool innovative way, it just seems to work

So so early in your career when you're in the military Do you feel like nowadays is there a way for people to make money by joining the military or does it have to be more it's more for a purpose or is it both? Why should someone join the military or does it have to be more it's more for a purpose or is it both? Why should someone join the military now? It's both. It's both so much my kids have full rights scholarships essentially that was given to them by the military. So I fought one overseas and the 9-11 GI Bill I was able to gift to my kids. You know, a whole bunch of my expenses that I had from college were paid for by the military. They provide me three meals three meals in a cot and they, I got to see the world, I got to learn, I got to travel, I got to learn languages and understand, you

know, how business worked internationally. And, you know, but they also gave me one of the greatest things which was knowledge. They showed discipline, you know, and I have a lot of discipline and a lot of areas in my life. I was born with that. Not a great mom and dad that showed me lots of different things, but that discipline ultimately is still by the military. They really laid out for you about how you're supposed to be. Matt has said it great.

What's the most important thing that you do in a day? He says, I wake up and I make my bed. And that's the first thing that he does. And he gets multiple wins. You're talking about it early. You get multiple wins and that momentum of success just starts building and compounding. And truly that J curve and the exponential growth happen.

So like, I want little wins. So I'm gonna get up, I'm gonna make my bed. You know, I'm not gonna have coffee and a sugary cereal. You know, I'm gonna drink a bunch of water. And then I'm gonna walk outside and look at the sun for a second. I'm gonna come back in some and make a real breakfast for my kids. Like my first real act of something

is to do something for somebody else. I'm providing them real, natural, free range chickens that we have on our property. You know, on scrambled eggs and oatmeal, doing it the right way. So like the first thing that they do in the morning, I'm setting them up for success. And then that just starts building and compounding

and by the end of the day, the momentum and the energy, it's like I'm a force. You also mentioned they have a private school. I don't think people know about this. Like what is that? No, so I mean, that was a close hold initially. The, that was really hard. To, I think I'm good a lot of

things man like starting a new school was one of the hardest things I've ever done. It was definitely outside of the the realm of my expertise and and man I failed hard the first year and thank goodness that the families the founding families that were there believed in the purpose and the mission so like they hey we believe in you we believe in you, we believe in this purpose, we believe in this idea. We'll stick with you. Year one had to get rid of almost my whole entire staff. Like everybody but one had to go packing.

And then by year two, I have this amazing staff with this energy. We have a gigantic waiting list, you know, thousands of people people are applying, 1,200 people on a waiting list. I know this sounds so cool. And now it's like, how fast can I scale? Like, how much capital am I going to put in this, my buying land, am I really going to switch from 60 students to the ability to have 600 students in one jump?

Is that too big? Should I not go that big? Like, that's the decisions that we're looking at two years in. But again, that purpose plan and person, you're like having the wrong people, had a great purpose, had a great plan, and man, we flopped, because we had the wrong people.

You know, and then slight adjustments with the right people, with an optimized plan, and Zen now, it's's just like here we go. Yeah. So Tarzan your entire purpose since you were three years old is animals. How do you monetize the animal industry? Well when I first started on Instagram, social media, I actually did one of my first tricks out of the country. I was like man I went to Costa Rica first and my second trick was I said man how can I bring people on a tour? So I met a guy that had a hook up at a resort,

and they was going bankrupt. He's like, man, I need tourists. So I got like 15 people to pay like three grand a pop, and he actually didn't want any money. You know, he's wanted people to know about his place. So I made all that money. You got to keep the 45 grand? Wow.

First time, I mean, imagine making 70, you know, minimum wage. And then, I don't know where making 45 grand. And going to another country. It's like two years. And I made them buy their own flights and stuff, but it took care of the food. We had a great time, you know, but it's like I started, man. And then it was a wrap up with that. Pull on hustle. It would not be a hustle because you're, your energy about, about animals is contagious. You know, like your smile since here, it is so genuine and authentic that when, you and authentic that when you brought those snakes out today, you could just the room you saw people starting getting weird edgy and you're just feeding off all these different energies.

You're so excited with the sincerity of trying to share this passion that you have. You know, I was like, dude, this is so cool. And I love these things, but watching you interact with these people and getting them to move through these barriers of fear that they have themselves, like I'd follow you all over the world. I hate you, I'm gonna go to insert some psychopath country, and I'm gonna tell you,

I'm coming in, man. Let's go. I'm in. Yeah, man, I mean, you guys know, the best thing's on the opposite side of fear, just all the best things, you know, sorry, everybody's always scared or something, but it can't be snakes.

You know, and if it is, I wanna throw over that, you know, because look at you, you're chilling, you're hanging out. It's lovely, man. You know, and if it is, I want to throw over that. You know, because look at you. You're chilling, you're hanging out. It's lovely, man. You know, and I love seeing other people be happy with it. And like, you have a Belgian Malam, all right? People love dogs, people don't know that. You know, people love animals.

So some people love snakes and you don't have snakes, but perfect opportunity, you know. That's awesome, man. So you've been in multiple industries, Tim. When you were in the fight industry, it was strike for us, UFC, et cetera. That's awesome man. So, you've been in multiple industries Tim. When you were in the fight industry, it was strike force, UFC, etc. Is there money in the fight industry? Is that too low for the fighters?

We've heard lots of different stories and media. Yeah, the fighters make nowhere near what they should make and nowhere near what's fair for them to make. And nowhere near what is sustainable for them to have a career. You know, you're looking at Mario um, you know, Mario Shugan, who had that just retired, you know, he has serious brain damage, tons of TBI, tons of knockouts, ton of concussions, broken hands, broken legs, you know, he has no health care, he has no retirement, you know, hopefully he did something with his fight purse while he was working or he has had started some business that will be to sustain him. Otherwise, like the day he's done, he's done. You know, good luck that he has nothing and that cowboy soroni, you know, like a great friend. He,

he did it right the last five, five, ten years of his career. He's finding great sponsors, he's transitioning to racing, you know, he's getting kind of a voice That will carry into acting you know, he's taking acting lessons. So when he starts the day that he retires He drops his gloves and send it center that octagon He's boom going that he's already sent himself up for the next thing. That is a very rare thing The vast majority of fighters when they go and retire They're left drowning, you know, they're they're treading waters best they go and retire, they're left drowning. You know, they're treading water as best they can and they're just floundering and slowly sinking

under, you know, we know the statistics of professional athletes in retirement, how fast they go bankrupt. Well, these are professional athletes that are retiring, not retiring. They're stopping to fight with no other source of income and tons of damage to their bodies and without really usable skills. So now it is shameful what they get paid. It's embarrassing the profit margin.

If you go to almost every single peatialistic sport, then from wrestling to boxing, it is it is indescribable how selfish the promotions are and how they're paying their fighters. How do you think that gets fixed? I mean, how many times have we tried? I've been part of two different unions starting up two different fighter unions to try to have a collective bargaining, you know, but the, the organizations, the promotions have these athletes by their balls and that one thing that is so difficult to overcome is, and I, I was victim of it too, I want so bad to be the best in the world. I was so desperately want to be known as the world champion.

And what am I going to sacrifice for that title, You know, my body for sure. My finances, absolutely. My marriage, most people, right? And it's all for that carrot, right? In front of them that they're just constantly chasing for forever. And the promotions know that. Dana's been in the fight world for long enough to know exactly the thing that drives all of his fighters.

Terrible. Okay, so we talked about making money and you talked a little bit about investing money. Why is it that fighters, athletes, etc. should be considering investing money after their career or along the way during their career? Yes, so while you're fighting, you have this tiny little window to make this money. And there are a lot of fighters that want to stay hungry so they need to fight again. You know, Conner's a great example of it where he would spend himself to near bankruptcy. So he had that hunger to get back in there when he didn't need that money anymore

We've seen how he's been for performing after that You know that hunger is a big motivator Mike Tyson is another example of that You know he would spend himself into poverty so he had to go back out and perform That is so dangerous and it's it's idiotic In that small window that you have to make that money and then invest that money, the money that you just hold onto hoping that in retirement you're going to live off of, obviously, inflation who are fighting, the taxes that we're fighting, but your inability to redirect that revenue into something that is going to over a long period of time continue to generate me more money

like that's your window to do it and while you're fighting You don't need that money. I don't need that money in the bank. You know, like I know I'm gonna fight again But when I get hurt or I go to kick a guy in my shin shatters Or I get knocked out and it's bad and the docs like man. I don't know what's going on But if I don't think you should get concussed again. Cool, man, I've already pivoted. I'm ready to go and I've been planning for this for my very first fight.

And I started investing early early. You know, in my 17 year career, you know, four or five years in, I started using all of my fight money to do very specific things. Some of the other times there was improvements on houses, bought a B&B, bought a little compound with four different, like this duplex, like I just kept going every single time. All the money would just be redirected into something else outside of fighting. You know, I love it.

So we talked about how you make money So we talked about how you make money, we talked about how you invest money, let's talk about how you like to give money away and why charity is important. Are there any charities that are important to you and why is charity important for athletes, people in the industry and why they should be considering charity as well?

Yeah, it is, it is as important. I love that those three things are the foundation of the money Monday's is that giving aspect in every single religion you see this encouraging to give back. And it's not just to help those that don't have. It's also to help you. If you are, how are you able to give unless you know how much you have? How much are you able to give unless you understand how much you're going to be getting?

Like, though, first of all, it forces you to budget. It forces you to understand the accounting of your own life and to be a good steward of your dollars. And then with that person purpose and plan, I'm able to give to things that contribute back to the areas that I care about and I work in. So, you know, I have my community, I have my tribe. I want that community to be very healthy, strong, and powerful with rising tides, all boats are raised. So if I'm giving back to veteran organizations, if I'm the things that hurt my soul,

when I was in the military and I was watching, in South America and Caribbean, seeing human trafficking be really common. And I couldn't do anything about it because of the positions and the roles I was in. Now coming back to me like, well, now I can give to these organizations or I can help or I can donate time. Afghanistan is a really great example. During the fall of Afghanistan, the veteran community was just dying.

Like watching 20 years at war, the whole entire country's crumbling. You know, we lost how many friends, how many, how many soldiers, lusters, limbs there. And now we're watching the entire country be taken back by the Taliban. So we, we, we founded our own nonprofit, save our allies.

And then we, not just founded it, then we went overseas and started evacuating thousands of people out of the country that were allies of ours during the war. Americans, SIVs, Green card holders, something that was saving my mind, saving my soul, but also impacting every single person in my community. To this day, I can't walk onto a military base or into an American Legion or a VFW and somebody's like, man, I was thinking about killing myself

over what was happening in Afghanistan. And then I find out that you guys load a plane, a C17 full of 500 people and flew it out of a cobble. As I do, we do that 30 times. You know, like thousands of people in 10 days. So it is so good for your soul, but it's also so good for your finances. If you're doing it in the right way, it's helping with taxes. If you're doing it the right way, it's giving back to a community that you care about.

Then as that community thrives, let's just say, if you want to be super selfish about it, and a community that you have a B&B in, and you are giving back to that community, and that community is getting healthier, and the prices of the properties in that area are getting better. Not only are you saving money in what you're giving as a donation, and there's limits to what you can do in IRS, but the area that you own stuff in is getting better. So you shouldn't do out of a selfish, monetized position, but it is better for everybody. It's better for your soul, it's better for your finances, and it's better for those that you're

giving it to. And the way that I do it is I all back to my purpose, like my, our mission statement of my company that that owns everything is to preserve and protect and to provide. We want to teach people and equip people to preserve human life, to protect human life, and to provide for their families. And that's everybody. That's Muslims, that's blacks, that's whites, that's I don't give a fuck who you are.

I want you to be the best version of yourself so you can preserve and protect human life and then provide for your family. And doing that film, thropically is so rad. It's so rewarding. And you know, we're gonna have, you know, you're wanting to give back,

like how many different ways can you give back in preserving wetlands, you know, that's the way to do it in wildlife. Am I gonna in conservation? I'm gonna be looking to support anti-poaching operations, you know, two totally different humans, but with the same kind of passion towards different ideals, awesome, you know, two totally different humans, but with the same kind of passion towards different ideals, awesome. You know.

I think the biggest thing I gathered from what you said was, it wasn't about money. It was energy, effort, and like gathering people together to have a common good or a common goal to go fix something or go do something. You didn't talk about money to go say people from... What was it called, Kabul? Yeah, Kabul was the city where we were stuck. It wasn't talking about money to go save people from... Cobble, what was it called? Cobble? Yeah, Cobble was the city where we were stuck. It wasn't talking about money, like how much it took. You talked about the efforts that it took

over your teams to go out there and bring 30 planes of people back. The way you talked about each aspect, the same way with Tarzan for the animals, it's not about him donating a thousand dollars or ten thousand or a hundred thousand or a million bucks. It's about getting tens of millions of views about, wow, we need to help save this animal. We need to stop poachers here because of X, Y, and Z. It's not always about the money part of it. It's lovely, man. Absolutely.

It's so gratifying to me and I'd be able to help animals, I can't speak a language. They don't have no shot against humans. So I'm making my life to save them because I feel they saved me You know and saving wetlands and anti, you know help an anti-pochen. It's the best thing then, you know, so All right, Tim last question In the year 2023, there's me a lot of chaos. Oh, man You deal with a lot of situations a lot of bad guys

Try to help people with your schools try to help people with your schools Try to help people with work defend people train them on guns. There's so many aspects of your life How do you stay calm amongst the chaos? So preparation you know if you're walking out to the octagon and and you think that you're gonna be calm in that fight when you haven't done any of the fight camp You're insane right you're about to get knocked out or choked out If I'm it before I deploy overseas we do a PMT at pre-mission train up. We know what our mission is and we reverse. We look at our metal tasks, all of the things that we're supposed to be good at, and how

are those things going to be utilized in a combat environment, and we focus on those tasks. So by the time this pre-mission train up is done, I've done all the things I need to do that. So when I go to war, I'm ready to do it. I'm prepared. It's a pre-mission train up. If I think I'm gonna move into 2023 without properly preparing, if I'm not gonna be financially fit and physically fit, if my household isn't in order, you know, you're crazy. How are you gonna respond to the chaos when you're not even a good position

with as an individually responsible citizen? Where I, okay, I mean, I hope I can get to food. What? Hope? That's your plan? Hope. Hope. It's not a plan.

You know, look like, well, you're doing that. This is exactly what everyone should be doing. You should be able to educate your own children. You should be able to feed your own children. You should be able to protect your own children. And you have to be able to do that. You can't do it by yourself. You have to have a community to tribe

that can go along with that. So, like, you have to be faithful in the small things. You don't get to pick when, where, how, why the economy's gonna crash, somebody's gonna mug you don't get to pick any of those five W's. You can only control what you can control and preparation is all of that. So be sleeping, be exercising, be having a healthy diet, be diligently finances, be intentional with your friendships and your family You know, I'm like you're gonna be in a really strong position. So whatever happens man Like I prepare for this bring it bitches All right guys, you are listening to the money Mondays. We are co-hosted here with the real Tarzan. We are just interviewing Tim Kennedy

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