The Money Mondays - The Power of Social Media: Michael Sartain's Guide to Millions 🤑 E45

Episode Date: November 27, 2023

In this episode, Michael Sartain shares his journey from nightlife to business success, and offers strategies for utilizing social platforms to reach millions. Explore actionable insights on high-status networking, content creation, and transforming social media views into substantial wealth. Michael Sartain, a passionate entrepreneur and influencer, is known for his dynamic presence in the entertainment industry. With a background in marketing and event promotion, he thrives in the nightlife scene, establishing himself as a sought-after figure. Sartain's strategic insights and motivational approach have earned him a reputation as a masterful coach. His commitment to fostering personal and professional growth resonates through his impactful coaching methods, inspiring positive change in those he guides. Like this episode? Watch more like it 👇 Navy Seal Ray Cash Care + Dan Dreyer on Scaling Over $100M: https://youtu.be/LwkSSfu9jm4 Avoid These MISTAKES If You Want to Make $$ at Live Events: https://youtu.be/-ApxA3UfTKk Jim Kwik Uses BRAIN TRICKS to Unlock Money, Success 🔑: https://youtu.be/elcTYCKc5zs Watch ALL Full Episodes Here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs0D-M5aH-0IOUKtQPKts-VZfO55mfH6k --- The Money Mondays is a business podcast here to teach you how to make money, invest money, and donate money by showcasing some of the world's most successful people and how they do the same. Hosted by serial entrepreneur Dan Fleyshman, the youngest founder of a publicly traded company in history, this money podcast gives you an exclusive behind the scenes look at how the wealthiest celebrities, entrepreneurs, athletes and influencers make, invest and donate money. If you want to learn more business and investing while you work to improve your financial life, you're in the right place! Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@themoneymondays?sub_confirmation=1 Dan Fleyshman, The Money Mondays Learn more here: https://themoneymondays.com Watch all the podcast episodes: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs0D-M5aH-0IOUKtQPKts-VZfO55mfH6k Let’s Connect... Website: https://themoneymondays.com Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-money-mondays/id1663564091 Twitter: https://twitter.com/themoneymondays LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-money-mondays/about/ TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@themoneymondays FB: https://www.facebook.com/The-Money-Mondays-110233585203220/

If I do something and I can reach, you know, even a million people, which doesn't sound like a laugh, but if you do an every platform, you can get a million views in a month or two months. It's not that hard, right? If you start off and you do something like that, and even 1% of those people like find your whatever it is you sell so valuable that they buy, you can become outrageously well-being. But the first thing I think you do, everyone has to do, is fix your social media. The first thing I think you do, everyone has to do, is fix your social media. Right.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. over the years, creating really, really good content, and then he finally decided to dive into the podcast world. He co-hosts podcasts with other people, has his own podcast, et cetera. We are co-hosted here by The Real Tars In,

also getting around 200 million views a month across social media, mostly focused on animal content and to help save our planet. He just got back here for Venezuela. Thank God I didn't have him here for two weeks. So, now we're diving in. We're gonna do multiple podcasts today, to knock out for you guys.

So without further ado, we have our special guest, Mr. Michael Sartain. Hey, what's going on man, I made it. My guidance counselor said I won't be here. I am. I was made it to my day. Can you guys hear his voice? He just sounds like radio show host. So for every one of our charity events over the last, I don't know, five, six, seven, eight years, Michael has actually been the gracious enough to host the red carpet for a couple of reasons. One, he knows hundreds and hundreds of models. So it's easy for him to interact with them when he's interviewing them because he actually

knows them. He's not nervous. I'm like, ah, getting freaked out when models or influencers come up to him. He's not going to be like fanboying the athletes and celebrities that are showing up to our charity events or to birthday parties, etc. And he's just really good at it. And so we make a lot of great content from it. But he's turned all of that into an actual business.

And so here on the money Mondays, we talked about three core topics. Had to make money, had to invest money, had to give it away to charity. He was literally just at a charity event last night that he was hosting with like, what was it? 1,500, 2,000 people. Yeah, it's probably close to 2,000 people

for the Teddy Bell. That's so crazy. It's in San Diego, I think it's probably the biggest single charity event. That's a big number. Telling people for charity is Bell. That's so crazy. It's in San Diego, I think it's probably the biggest single charity event. That's a big number. Yeah. Telling people for charity is fantastic. So I want to dive right into it.

Let's talk about the making money side. Walk us through the before you started business coaching and mentoring and those type of things and podcasting and getting all this traffic and views. Walk us through the life before that. Nightlife world, entertainment world, hosting, et cetera. Walk us through how can people out there make money in the entertainment space?

So what's really interesting is that because you know me from the hosting, you actually understand how I started the business. And I talk about this all the time. It was like, if Dan Fleischmann taught a social circle business, it would be what I teach in men of action. Because I refer to you all the time.

And the main thing I say is do things for other people and ask for nothing in return. But you think about that. And it just sounds like you're doing charity and you're being taken advantage of. But in reality, you end up creating businesses because one of the things you realize is with the scalability of social media,

if I do something and I can reach, you know, even a million people, which doesn't sound like a lot, but if you do an every platform, you can get a million views in a month or two months. It's not that hard, right? For you guys, you said you're doing 200 million views a month. If you start off and you do something like that,

and even 1% of those people find your, whatever it is, you sell so valuable that they buy, you can become outrageously wealthy from that. I just don't think people grasp that concept. When you really think about all the people that watched Tilope as when he does the video of here I am in my garage The number of people who watch that video versus the number of people who actually bought 67 steps is less than a fraction of 1% But it made him over a hundred million dollars probably right and it's just craziness when you when you come to this concept so

West Watson is another person. He just he says I'm the motherfucker who just doesn't quit, right? He keeps going on and on. He keeps providing value. One of the things that actually got me really motivated to do this business was when I interviewed West and he was like, I would have guys who would come and watch my free stuff for two or three years and then finally by my program. Two or three years, man, that actually made me feel great. I started having clients that had been following me for three, four years and then they bought, and I was like, and it's the most rewarding thing, and we end up hiring them. We usually end up hiring those guys to be sales leads. We end up hiring to do different stuff because they understand the concepts of the

company. Now, what you were asking before, I get out of the military in 2011, before that I had worked in sports radio briefly, I was a DJ at a strip club for four years, so that actually... Sports radio? Yeah, I knew it. Yeah, for sure. I was a DJ at a strip club for four years. So that actually, sports radio, I knew it. Yeah, for sure. There was a DJ at a strip club for four years, which actually got it to where, like if you're a DJ at a strip club, you have to talk on the microphone for eight hours a day.

To yourself. You get pretty, you get refined on the microphone. You don't have any issues on a microphone after doing that. And then in the military, I was actually the presenter for a lot of the awards ceremony. So I would do that.

And then I was also an MC at a night, hopefully my commander isn't watching this, but I was an MC at a night club also while I was actually the presenter for a lot of the awards ceremony. So I would do that and then I was also an MC at a night Hopefully my commander is watching this but I was an MC at a nightclub also while I was doing that You know part time while I was in office or I retired as a as a captain. I get out and I remember in 07 I went to Las Vegas for a week and I remember going that was a dude I'm I don't take any leave ever. I might as well just take a week of leave I went there for the NBA all-star game because I'm friends with Kenny Smith, who's one of the guys on inside the NBA. And I go there and I go to a bunch of parties

and during the week, I just remember going to a place called Tanjirane and another place called Jet and another place called Pure. They're all gone now. Tao is still there. And a single most beautiful woman I'd ever seen in my life and it was a Tuesday. And I was like, and if you're local, you get in free.

And I was, and I remember I'm in my 20s, or my late 20s, early 30s. And I'm just like, this is the easy thing I've ever seen in my life. Like the rest of the world's out there like going out trying to meet Hot Girls. And like I would go out in Vegas on a Tuesday and see the most beautiful,

I'm like, dude, I'm moving here. And as soon as I got out of the military, I split time between Vegas and LA. And then a couple of things happened. I started working with a small event company for a while and they helped me understand how the nightlife scene works. So there's a couple things, there's a nightlife scene and then there's like table game and then there's social media and then all these things were like conflated as say 2011. This is when Dan Bulls,

Aryan gets on Instagram and he starts taking off. So we kind of see, okay, this is our first exam. Dan is is our first exam. Dan is like our first exam. He's a good friend of mine. He's his first example of, this is what you can do that will go viral. The concept of viral really wasn't a thing that was kind of some Facebook Twitter.

Tag a friend. It wasn't the same thing. Then we watch Dan and he in his like level of, I just don't give a f***ing no matter what I do. I'm just gonna get more views, a more reaction. That was kind of the first time we saw that. And so that blew up. give a f**king no matter what I do, I'm just gonna get more views, a more reaction. That was the first time we saw that, and so that blew up, and then, so I'm living in Las Vegas during this time period, and I remember the first thing I did, it was I hosted a

Bikini fashion show at Lilly Bar in the Belagio. I was working with this group, and I got on the microphone, and I just made everybody laugh. I think that they thought it was just kind of a throwaway thing, where I was gonna say people's names, but I just made everybody laugh. So they that they thought it was just kind of a throwaway thing where I was gonna say people's names, but I just made everybody laugh. So they hired me to come back again. Then we started recruiting girls for these bikini fashion shows,

then rehab, which was the oldest pool in the city at that point. rehab pool asked us to host their bikini competition and then do the recruiting. Well, I mean, now we got 50 grand behind us to do recruiting. So now I'm getting two 300 girls to show up. From there, one of the guys from Maxim, I remember the Maxim party used to be thrown by Karma.

Remember Karma International used to do the Playboy Mansion and then they did the Maxim party. So I was a videographer at the Playboy Mansion and then one time I was a videographer, I was supposed to be for the Maxim party in Belar, I was say 2015 and the girl who was supposed to do it was Caitlin O'Connor.

Or, yeah, I think Blets who was, and she couldn't show up, so I ended up being the host. And that's where I met Steve Fowler from Babes and Toilet, and that's where my Joel Alvarez from Black Tape Project on that red carpet, and I met Emily Sears on that red carpet too. And then from there, everything just kind of flourish. So then I was hosting Babes and Toilet, I was hosting. And then I talked to you, and then it was, once I hosted Baves in Toilet, Marcella Navargerete, she asked me to come host your event, and then that's when I did it,

and then try to give you the best video I possibly could. And from there, I wanted to just basically have a monopoly to host every single red carpet charity event there was. And I just started learning these things from meeting people and sitting down with them, became good friends with Tilo Pez and a bunch of these people. And then from doing so, I was like, okay,

there's something we're doing here that's working really well, but I don't know how to codify it. And I started reading a bunch and I got into psychology, the concepts of evolutionary psychology, the concepts of made choice copying, which is when men are surrounded by women,

more women find them attractive. And I was like, man, there's something here. And I was really interested in it. I was giving speeches on it, but I wasn't doing it professionally. I was still working in finance. I was a quantitative analyst. And then in 2020, when the COVID happened, the crash happened.

And so these two parts of my life, whereas this financial part of my life, where I just was, we were decimated. This fund I was working for, we just got destroyed. And I was sitting here sort of teaching this part time and I was like, what if I start teaching this full time? And so the concept of starting, men of action came in, I want to say December of 2019 and then we turned it into a real business, say October of 2020.

And then we started doing, I think the first month we did 40 grand. This last month we did 520,000 a month. That's about what we started doing, I think the first month we did 40 grand this last month, we did 520,000 a month. That's about what we're doing right now. But it's all come from the concepts of the things that I've learned over the last 10 years or the last 20 years from you being in the US military and then working in night life and all this high status networking, whereas what, like for instance, whenever I come to your event, I always want to have 40 or 50 girls with me.

And it's not to show off, It's just because it's more fun. It's more fun for me. Then more people want to figure out who I am. They give me their card. They want to network with me. They want to come on my podcast. I've taken all these techniques and steps, and I've tried to put them into one program. That's pretty much what's going on.

How do people make money in the nightlife space? In the nightlife space, there's a lot of different ways. Obviously, the best people to follow, I would read the three case studies at Harvard on Jason Strauss. Jason Strauss is the creator of Marquis in New York. He, there's also a book that briefly discusses him. It's called Very, Very Important People by Ashley Mirce.

He's a professor of sociology from Boston University. Basically, the concept of of if you want to own a nightclub, that's one way to make money. If you want to be a club promoter, I'll say this, being a club promoter is kind of a weird situation because you don't make a lot of money. It's kind of a beating. It's a hard job in the beginning, but it's a really great way. If you have a fear of talking to women or talking to other people, you get really good

with social anxiety very quickly when your job depends on you getting human beings to come into a club. So I actually recommend if you're considering it, I think people should do that. That's a really great way to do it. Another way to do it is a kind of like with Steve Fowler and Barry Blydo, which is throw these events, they'll basically go to a venue. They'll tell the venue, the venue will say, we'll give you the event, it's usually on an off night, like a Tuesday or Wednesday, and they say, hey, we'll give you the venue for 5K.

We'll take for the first 5 grand from the bar and everything else is left as yours. Does that make sense? So then you bring in your own tables and you keep 100% of the revenue from the bottles after the first 5,000. That has been another way to do it. Another way I've seen is you throw a party

at different places in Las Vegas or Los Angeles, and then you ask for a flat fee of five that grand or 10 grand, and then the bar keeps everything else. Those are the best ways I've seen in order to do it, but I actually look at Nightlife, to be honest with you as a loss leader. I look at it Nightlife as a way to get great content to do a business, is that make sense?

So Nightlife, and I'm including daples, and I'm including bikini competitions, and I'm actually including like model citizen fun. I'm including daples, and I'm including bikini competitions, and I'm actually including model citizen fun. I'm including all that, babes in Toilet. That kind of content, generally it's hard to make money from that specifically, but the content you make from it, you can use to promote a business. My business has to do with high status networking.

So all that content that I have is fantastic, combined with the podcast. So the content at the event is like, here is the proof that all these really attractive women are engaged with this content. And then the podcast is, here's the proof that these really high status high net worth individuals want to engage with the content. And so that's for me, that's how I've been able to use the content I get from nightlife in order to make money. So Tarzan, you got 130 million views the last nine days. Talk to you. Why is sub-sensives Venezuela? What happened out there? Man it's just you know me I'm

an algorithmic conspiracy theorist, do-ru, I'm obsessed with social media and growing different platforms. So I spent some time. And you grew 400,000 followers last two weeks. Yeah, 400,000 followers. It was 500,000 today. I'm at like 16,000 more to go. And I'll hit 500,000. So we give it 12 more minutes.

Yeah. Before the end of the day, we're probably hit it. But yeah, man, just going into this different parts of the world that's undiscovered. Yeah. You know, Venezuela's pretty tight knit in South America. Sure. Everybody goes to Brazil or like Peru to see Macho Picchu or, you know, they go to Colombia or they go wherever.

And not many people have been to Venezuela. Yeah. So I had a couple of buddies go down there before me. Charles J Alvarez. And I was like, man, they had posted a picture of a beach. And I was like, where's that like Maldives, Bore, or Bore like, no, I said, I'm Venice Waila. I'm like, if Venice Waila beach looks like that, I wonder what the rest of the country looks like. So I started doing like a little deep dive. And before you know it, I was just

on a plane. I'm on a plane. Yeah. You know, I was like, I'm going to Venezuela. So I get down there and 14 days later, from catching in the condos to crocodiles and came in, you know, looking for little bugs and gone fishing for peacock bass and hanging out with the tribes, multiple different tribes. I came into a really, I mean, left and, left and a couple hundred people of a contact that one of these young, I'm on my tribes and we went we went down there and a barter machetes and a bunch of fish and line and the part where we went to is like it has a triple border so it's real dangerous yeah because you have illegal minors down there that like mine gold and different minerals yeah but needless to say you're giving out

content that nobody has nobody seen you know so do you have to study up when you're you're dealing with the wildlife in Venezuela that maybe you ever... Yeah, I mean, from as far as the Amazon in like South America, that was the first part of the world I studied as a kid. So I'm pretty like, well, first on the different animals there, but there's all types of species,

there's all different locals, different animals. So, I kind of like to learn while I'm down there from the locals, I was getting taught a lot in Spanish. So this was the first trip also that I had a translator, but I kicked my translator to the side because the guys were speaking in Spanish about animals, but they were so knowledgeable about animals, so the things they were saying,

I can comprehend like 60% Spanish, but when you're speaking 100% animals in Spanish, I understand 90% of what you're saying, because I can get the time to the terminologies and the locations of where we're at. So that's Latin. I mean, I was worried about that. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

So yeah, man, and me being so involved and engulfed in that space, and we're filming and posting in real time, whereas other creators are perfectionists, and I wanna wait till they get home and sharpen it and iron it, I'm like, bro, give it to them. Raw. And everybody's seeing this raw experience

of me going from place to place to place to place to place to place, animal after animal after animal. And they're just like, it's a sensory upload. So people are sharing it, commenting, what's going on, blah, blah, blah, animal after animal, you know, and they're just like, it's a sensory overload. So people are sharing it, commenting, you know, what's going on, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then that's when you hit the explore page of Venezuela. Yeah. And when you're close to the border of Brazil and Colombia and that's an untapped market, man.

You're just hitting these Latin American explore pages. If you guys are familiar with any Latin songs, they have billions of views on the internet. They have, the Latin artists are just top of the charts and numbers. So just imagine the entertainment that they're missing. Yeah, the numbers. From someone that looks like me going down there and their wild places, you know, learning their language, eating their food, sharing their culture with the world, especially if

it's like Venezuela where not many people get to go and experience and it is the number one place on the planet. People ask me all the time because I travel a lot. Yeah, I've been to almost 30 countries, probably over 30 countries now. And people ask me, what's the best place you've ever been? I always have a hard time. Oh, it depends on what you're looking for. You want the beach where you want food or you want this you want that then it's where it has it all yeah it's all top 10 yeah you know it's just 10 out of 10 you can't beat it the food the landscape tourism you go tourism cultures land animals water animals you whatever you want it's there that's incredible yeah one of the funny things is so I one of the things we talk about my show all the time is evolutionary psychology so it's basically how did natural selection create homo sapiens over 200,000 years to be

the way we are. And one of the tribes that they always look at in order to find people that are not, they don't see television, radio, or film that doesn't, they don't have any Western influences, the Yanamamo tribe in Venezuela. They talk about that and certain Inuit Indians and then also people in the Aboriginal people in Australia. And they talk about these people because they want to show, for instance in all cultures, men are more interested in casual sex than women.

Well, Yamamamo includes in that and you're like, well, no, that's patriarchy and a cultural contract because like, well, it can't be because these people don't have the internet and don't watch television. So it's kind of, they use that as one of the proofs is like for instance The indiana mamma tribes the the more successful a man is the higher is the difference in age between him and his wife increases It's but but the thing is we see that here where billionaire are dating 20-year-olds So what does that mean is that cultural or genetic it shows that it's genetic And so that it's really interesting you bring that up the other thing is like I haven't seen your content But I'm sure I have no doubt with I've seen this stuff before, you did with the snakes,

it's incredible. But showing competency and relevancy, I think is probably the best thing people can do. Most people are not gonna get 130 million views a month on social media, but whenever I have someone who's starting from the beginning, I'm like, if you can show your relevant and your competent, you have access to scarce resources

and some kind of status, you're gonna do really well, especially if you're trying to run a business. Yeah, sure. Thank you, man. Explain what is Manivaction. Manivaction is a course that I created. There's 11 pillars in it.

It has to do with social networking. It has to do with event planning, evolutionary psychology, critical thinking, leadership, entrepreneurship, those are the pillars. We have basically it's an evident, based way to explain high status networking. So I believe, this is just my opinion, is that the highest level for men

is to accomplish goals with other men. This is the reason why we watch the World Cup and the reason why we watch the Super Bowl. We watch people finish, this is the reason why we love the movie Zero Dark 30, you know, or War movies. We watch groups of men Accomplishing goals together. I believe that's an evolutionary adaptation that the that basically the reason why we're here in and

Homo habilis and homo Australia's and homo Neanderthalus don't exist anymore is because we as homo sapiens figure that out before anyone else And we're able to create you know do incredible things from you know a military campaign to building a skyscraper. All these things require groups of men to work together. So I created a course that's based in evolution and based in science that basically teaches men how to network with other high status men. And at the same time, certain attraction triggers that cause women to become attracted or have caused women to become attracted to men for the last 200,000 years. So these are ubiquitous. And if you look at, if you ever see my course and you ever see like one of the last 200,000 years. So these are ubiquitous. And if you look at, if you ever see my course, and you ever see like one of the group calls,

you know, in Zoom, you can show 49 people at one time, you will see Asian, black, white, Hispanic, because, and it's such an even distribution, the reason why is because the things that we talk about in my course are ubiquitous amongst all Homo sapiens males. There's just an access to higher access to sexual selection, access to higher resources, access to higher status. Those things are ubiquitous amongst all men and have been since the Greeks,

the Egyptians, whoever. And so we just take those concepts and we teach them. One of my favorite ones is the critical thinking concepts. What we talk about, like thinking about thinking, we talk about concepts that do with evolutionary psychology, it's my favorite stuff. But then we also get into how do I game social media to where all sudden I live in a city and every girl in the city knows who I am. What I call is low level famous.

I don't think people should be as famous as you guys, or I'd love if they could, but most people can't do that. Just the numbers don't work out that way. But you should work to a place where you go to a nice restaurant and the chef knows your name. Everywhere you go, whenever there's a party a place where you go to a nice restaurant and the chef knows your name right everywhere You go whenever there's a party everyone wants to go to your party

No one would ever think about missing dance birthday party. Do you understand what I'm saying? No one would consider the con of course we're going to dance bird You would feel phomo for not going to that party or when Dambulsarian would have those ignite parties like the concept of us not going was ridiculous Of course we're going to dance parties, you understand? And so creating something like that, but we can also do it for a real estate agent. We could also do it for an accountant.

We could also do it for somebody who works in big tech. We could do somebody who sells medical parts, you understand, medical devices. We can do any of those things and use the same techniques in order so that when you throw an event, people wanna come and one of the main things we talk about is the ratio. We can do any of those things and use the same techniques in order so that when you throw an event, people want to come. And one of the main things we talk about is the ratio. Like most of the time when you go to self-help conferences, it's 99% men.

I always ask men, can you bring 5 or 6 or 7 girls when you come to these events? They're going to be more interested and everyone's going to be more interested in you. So someone's out there listening and they started networking, they're starting to make some money. What is the difference? You know the line, you can't buy cool. Sure. How does someone transfer to actually become cool? The cool part is hard.

I think that takes immersion. I think a lot of us, there's a point in our life where we're just not cool. We just don't get it. And then something happens and it clicks. I'm sure there was a point in your life where you saw these animals, you came alive. And then probably everyone who was around you when they saw how you acted around them

and how competent you were around them became more interested and you became more engaging to them. I think that happens for a lot of people. Like what happens is over time you find your core competency, you become really good at. So cool to me I think is when you find that core competency and you become very comfortable. And I cool to me, I think is when you find that core competency, you become very comfortable. And I think that takes immersion. I think that takes 10,000 hours. What I teach for my guys, though, is the most scalable thing,

the thing we've talked about on this show so far, the most scalable thing that we can any of us can do to show value, status, and competency with the least amount of effort. What Dambles Aryan talks about in his book, which is the lowest perceived effort, or low perceived effort is social media. So even if your social media is a six, but you're a ten in real life, your social media is still gonna trump you in real life because your social media has a hundred thousand X

more ability to scale. You see what I'm saying? So fixing your social media to where you look competent and relevant is the most important thing. I think it's even more important than becoming cool because what happens is now when you do that, you get invited and included in things that are cool, you get it around cool people

and it sort of rubs off on you after a while by default. I just really think that if somebody was just constantly going to high-status parties every week, at one time they were dragged next to the Academy Awards, if you were around people like that time, there were drag nests that are at the Academy Awards. If you were around people like that and you just saw it, wasn't that big of a deal to them, it would start to rub off on you. Immersion would cause you to become more used

to being around high status individuals, just like you said before. Most, whenever I hang out with Lindsey Paila sometimes, whenever I hang out with her, I'm sure she doesn't even notice it at this point. You should see the look on women and men's face whenever she walks into a room. Because she's so beautiful, right?

She walks it and she's like my homie from Louisiana. That's the way I see her, like a little sister, but everyone else when they see her, like you should see, dude, just their jaws drop and women start staring. And through immersion, you just get to the point where it doesn't affect you that much. And now those people who are more high status, they would rather hang out with you because you're not staring at them. We're asking in the same questions over and over again that they're tired of talking about.

If I ever met Elon Musk, I would ask him questions about material physics, because what I studied in college, I would not ask him questions about like, you know, who you're dating or stuff on, you know, good job, you know, getting Andrew Tate back on Twitter or whatever. Like I wouldn't talk about the stuff that everyone else wants to talk about, the hyper conservative stuff. I would talk about science. And so I think that's one of the things that happens is that you just get immersed in that.

But the first thing I think you do, everyone has to do is fix social media. If you don't do that, it's just one of these things where when you meet a, like, I don't think a lot of men, especially over the age of 40, realize this, if they go out with a girl and the girl likes them, the first thing she's going to do is look at his Instagram. Period. There's just no, she's going to look at maybe his Facebook, but if she looks on there and she sees he has a Twitter and no Instagram, it just looks like a lot of she's going to do is look at his Instagram. Period. There's just no, she's gonna look at maybe his Facebook, but if she looks on there and she sees he has a Twitter and no Instagram, it just looks shady.

I don't know how to explain it. If he doesn't have a TikTok, maybe, you know, maybe he's not younger or whatever, you know, maybe he's a little older, but it's like people are going to notice that. So that's the first thing. The second thing I do is, you know those dream sheets you see sometimes people will have on their refrigerator

or they'll have on their wall. They'll wake up and it'll be six pack abs, a Lamborghini, a million dollars, all that kind of stuff. Make that dream list, but make a dream list of people that you want to network with. So for me, mine, I still want to get Alex or Mozee on my show. I still want to get Neil deGrasse Tyson on my show. I still want to get, there's a bunch of people

I still want to have on my show. I want to get Tom Billion on my show, guys like that. So they're on my dream list of people that I want to get on my show or I want to get. There's a bunch of people I still want to have on my show. I want to get Tom Bilge on my show, guys like that. So they're on my dream list of people that I want to get on my show or I want a network with or I want to come to my events. So I usually have about 200 male influencers and about 2,000 female influencers.

I usually just use a Google spreadsheet and I'm gonna write all their names down and I'm gonna use their social media handles. I'm not gonna use their names. I use their social media handles because one of the things is that's how people are identified by now. You understand what I'm saying?

There's Dan Blesarian and then there's this account. Those are two different things. There's the Instagram account. And so that's the other thing I would do is when you do that and then afterwards then you start bringing these people to events or you throw your own events, when you start doing that, that's when you can become cool because you're inundated around these high status people. So one of the main reasons we created this podcast

because we all grew up thinking it's rude to talk about money. Yeah. Why do you think we grew up that way and how can we change that in our society? Well, I think one of the issues is that because through the majority of our, let's just say the last 100 years in the United States,

it has never been a thing where rich people were trying to help poor people become wealthy. So the idea of talking about money, it was just one of these things you just understood. Like, think about the upper mobility you have now. Like going from rags to riches in the United States, you can do so better than any other country in the world, but it didn't. It wasn't always like that. The majority of people who would grow up poor would die poor.

This is why you see poor neighborhoods, people have children, those children go to the poor, independent school districts, they have a poor education, they don't get a good job and then end up being poor. And you see the cycle of poverty just go on and on forever. So the idea of talking about money, I think for some people was like, well, you know, when you deal with things like say, the dust bowl, the great depression, do you want to talk about the fact that you're eating good and living well when everyone else is starving? It's hard, it's difficult to do that.

I think with the ad ban of social media, one of the things we start to see is, we can now teach these concepts on making money, scalability, or, I just talked to Dan Martell the other day, the idea of buying back your time, these very simple concepts that are able to make you millions and millions of dollars, you share them with other people, and sometimes you need to show the $178,000 watch or the Lamborghini

or whatever in order to get people's attention so they want to buy your program. I just think it's one of these things where probably before, like say, in the 1970s, if you did something like that, you just looked like a scam artist or do you look like you were bragging? And I think now, there's still some of that, but I think what's happened now is that there's so many millionaires created from what Tai Lopez did. No matter what you think of Tai, the truth is he's made lots of millionaires, right? There's so many people that have become wealthy because of what these people, even with

Grant Cardone, it's taught them in these different people, have taught them, even if you didn't buy into Cardone Capital. The idea was like, okay, I'm watching Grant Cardone. Real estate, really? I didn't even think about that. Let me get it. Wait, was that 1031 depreciation? You mean I can write all this off? Wait a second, I can house hack and have these.

What does Robert Key was hockey sale about asset, debts and liabilities? Even if you never bought their program, just the way they got you thinking about assets and liabilities was so great and made so many people so wealthy, that's the reason why now I think you have to talk about money, where else people won't understand.

I mean, it's just one of these concepts. Again, there's one of my favorite books is the Millionaire Next Door, and one of the things they talk about is parents informing their children about money, about investments. I have two rules in men of action, or when it comes to money,

one money should be making your life easier, or two money should be making you more money. That's it, that's the only thing. I don't own a Gucci belt. Like I just, because that doesn't make my life easier and it doesn't make me money. So I don't use those things, right?

But I do own an A7S3, because that makes me money and it makes my life easier. So that's the reason why I do that. I do have a personal assistant, because he makes my life easier. You see what I'm saying? I have people who post for me on social media, because they make my life easier. If you just think about saying? I have people who post for me on social media because they make my life easier.

If you just think about it like that, that's how you become fantastically wealthy. I believe. So another topic that seems to get a ton of pushback on social media is girls and older guys or wealthy guys. What are your thoughts about it? Why is it something that people are so mad or sad

or frustrated about, women wanting to date guys with money or the taboo of it? Why do you something that people are so mad or sad or frustrated about, about women wanting to date, guys with money or the taboo of it? Why do you think that is? So let's talk about what, so this is what I love, is evolutionary psychology is about what is and not what ought. So let's talk about what is first, what is. There's a 37 culture study done by Dr. David Bus, and one of them he talks about the young, young,

a mamotribe, and when he does that, one of the things they find is then in almost every, believe in every one of these cultures, as men climb the socioeconomic or status ladder, the difference between them and their wives, the age difference between them and their wives increases, okay? Well, that makes sense. So, that means this is something we've done throughout history, and this is something a lot of men like to do. Older men who are high-satisfies like younger wives because those women have, from a genetic

standpoint, they have a longer reproductive career. They can give you more children and are more likely to give you healthy children when you're with a woman who's in her early 20s versus her 40s. That's just a function of biology, no matter how unfair it is, that's the way it is. That's what is. What ought is what happens, and this is not me saying this, but for instance, me a caliph is a great example, where me a caliph says something to the effect of, you know, she did pornography for a while. She says that, you know, the whole thing was a manipulation of her.

And then afterwards comes out and says that men who want to date younger women have some sort of mental disorder, right? Or women who want to date men, women who want to date men who are older or wealthier. There's something wrong with them. They have a problem. It's one of these situations where it's usually like the men are creepy for wanting to do this kind of thing. Then you look at the statistics and you find that under the age of 30 something like 33% of men are single

and 68% of women. Well, if 68% of women are in relationships, I'm sorry, 68% of men are single. So about 33% of men are in relationships and about 68% of women are in relationships under the age of 30. Well, if 68% of women are in relationships under the age of 30 and only 33% of men are in relationships and about 68% of women are in relationships under the age of 30. Well, if 68% of women are in relationships under the age of 30 and only 33% men, what does that mean? That means they're dating older men.

The problem is this, when men want to date younger women, there's a group of women who are older who are now not getting picked anymore, and that's where you're hearing these things from. The same women who are complaining when they're 35, why are you dating these younger women? This is controlling, you're trying to groom her. The same women who are saying that were not saying that when they were 23. If you don't believe me,

have any of them go back and show the tweet when they were 23 saying this was creepy. When they were 23, they did want to date these guys and could get those guys to lock down. That's the reason why they didn't have a problem with it. Now what my biggest issue is when women want to date older men who are wealthy, that's a preference. When women want to date taller men, that's a preference.

When women want to date men who are good looking, that's a preference. When men want to date younger women, that's creepy. It's just a double standard. All it is is a double standard propagated by academia and progressive thinking that when I say progressive, I mean liberal thinking that causes this whole thing, this double standard to happen. Either one is a preference.

A man wanting to date a woman who hasn't had sex with like 100 men is a preference and that's not weird and doesn't make him insecure. No more than a woman wants a date a man who's tall. But for some reason, women wanting to date man who's tall is congratulated. Plenty of short-king. Go on TikTok. Look at how short men are just chastised and made fun of on there. No problem at all. TikTok never takes those videos down.

It's never considered hate speech. But if you say, this woman is too heavy, or this woman has been with too many men, then this is considered hate speech. A lot of times this content is de-platformed, or it's demonetized. And so men are not allowed to express preferences if they do so.

They're creepy and it's icky. If women express preferences, in those cases, those preferences are healthy, and that's what you go, girl. That's what you should be doing. And the problem is, if women express preferences, in those cases, those preferences are healthy, and that's what you go, girl, that's what you should be doing. And the problem is, like I said before, it tends to be women who had an option to settle to lock a guy down,

when in their early 20s, and now that they're in their late 20s or early 30s, or even in their 40s, now they're upset, and they're like, why are you dating these, why are you trying to date these younger girls? Remember, those women are always complaining about Leonardo DiCaprio getting rid of women

when they turn 25. Those same women are never complaining about the women who keep choosing Leonardo DiCaprio. You guys see that? The stories are never about the women making bad decisions. It's always about Leo being creepy. You see the double standard there, right? So that's kind of where that issue comes from.

So I saw some of your videos go viral where you talk about the actual percentage rate of tall men, rich men, making six figures a year or more, et cetera. What is the actual general math of wealthy men in America and this small percentage of selection that these girls are theoretically going for? Yeah, so this is a great question.

So these numbers may, they're outdated all the time. They're constantly changing. So I just say this, about 17% of men in the United States make $100,000 a year or more. That used to really mean some $100,000 a year when my dad was growing up. That was huge. That means you were rich. You paid $20,000 for a car, $100,000 a house was $70,000. Okay, so 100 making $100,000 a year, it's sort of a status line that we have now,

but it doesn't really mean as much. What about 17th percent of men? So that's about outside of one standard deviation. You're outside of one standard deviation, you make $100,000 a year. That's a pretty good living for most people in most cases. Not for like, not for like grand cardone. That's not enough money for him,

but for most people, that would, they'd be able to live on that, right? And then what happens after that is, what percentage of the population is over six feet tall. It's about 14% of the population. So if you take those numbers and you explain that to women, like, you ask them, hey, how much money do you want your guy to make? 100,000 is on the low end, bro. If you're in brick or Beverly Hills, it's 500K minimum, two million, two million regular income. You're kind of stupid at that point. Like you should be having investments at that point.

Getting two million regular income, I mean, let's you're playing the NFL. Like most people, they have investments that are making them money or they're putting their money back into their business so they're writing the stuff off. If you're making that much in income, not to say, I'm obviously not stupid,

I'd love to make two million a month or whatever. But my point is, like what happens at that point is these women are like, I'd love to make two million a month or whatever. But my point is, like, what happens at that point is these women are like, I need a man who makes a million dollars a year. At $500,000 a year, you're in the top 1%. The top 1%. I believe it's 540, it may be 600,000 out. Does somebody make correct me on this?

600,000 you're in the top 1%. When you say that to women who work in bottle service, the top 1% make 600,000 dollars a percent. When you say that to women who work in bottle service, the top one percent makes $600,000 a year. They cannot grasp that. I just had a guy drop 20 K on this table. He just showed me his Lamborghini or whatever. He obviously makes more than 600,000. All she's around her guys who make $600,000 a year.

So because of that bias, she starts believing all men are like that. Because she goes to work and there's these handsome men, she works with, she works with, she thinks all these all men are over six feet tall. I had a girl come on my show say that she thinks the average man US is six foot two which crazy. It's five seven. Yeah, it's five nine. Five nine. And then. Not different countries, right? Yeah. And then the other one was the other one, what was the average man in the United States make and I believe if you if you count the elderly and you count like eight like teenagers

It's $39,000 a year which is outrageously low women are like are you kidding me? And I'm like the average man in the United said now the like if you don't count them I believe it's like 49,000 fifty one thousand dollars a year somewhere in that area But the point is when you tell a woman who is attractive that the average man is five foot nine and makes $51,000 a year, she's just like dumbfounded. Like, how can that possibly be? I'm like, yeah, that's the average man. And she's like, no, I encounter men who are taller and good looking all the time. And I'm like, have you locked one down?

And they're like, well, no, but he was going to marry me. And I'm like, but did he marry you? And they're like, no, but he was going, like, do you understand that man? So the way it goes, like, one of the ways you can look at, you know, disparity with dating is through sexual partners. And about 28% of men, under the age of 30, it's about 28% of men have zero sexual partners period.

I think 26% are virgins and 28% between the ages of 18 to 30 have zero sexual partners in the last year. So we'll just say, they just say the bottom 25% are at zero. And then we come up here the average number of sexual partners for a man in North America is about five. So at the 50th percent, we're at five, so we go to zero, we're at five. And then the top 5% is 150 sexual partners. So it goes zero, five, and then we're at 150. Do you see the point?

Like consider that. Damn. Consider it. By the way, by the way, how the hell time? Isn't that crazy? So when you consider that, by the way, all the VIP house you know, all those, every one of them is way over one fifty.

Like every male stripper, all these male influencers that come to your party, every one of them is over like three, four hundred dude. So the thing is when you realize that and then you see this disparity, what you come to the realization is there's this small group of men who are just dominated, have no trouble at all, they couldn't call the girls and their DMs if they wanted to, or there's guys that are maybe a couple levels below that are still attractive like when you go up and ask them, I'll be honest with you, now that I have a somewhat popular podcast and you know 100,000 followers or whatever, I have a girlfriend now.

We don't, you know, I'm seeing her, but if I were to go up and talk to almost any girl now, they're like very likely to go on a date with me. Like it's just very clear the difference between me being an established 46 year old man who makes a good living. Then before when I wasn't, it's just night and day. Like I just don't have to work that hard to get women to go out with me, or get attention from women at all. I'm not at the point where there's women in my DMs throwing me new to all the time, but there's a lot of guys that are like that too. There's this massive group of men that have nothing going for them at all.

You see this massive level of disparity that's happening, and it's causing a problem. There's this huge group of people on the internet right now that are Exposing the disparity and they're becoming called misogynists and then there's this other group of people that are trying to say There is no crisis and dating and these people are just like they're deluding themselves and they're causing them Even a bigger problem and the reason why is because I mean the only solution I see is like as men Like one of the biggest problems we have is obesity. That's massive It's like 42% of men are obese in the United States It's a huge problem and then the other problem that we have is obesity. That's massive. It's like 42% of men are obese in the United States. It's a huge problem.

And then the other problem that we have is like, we can't make everyone rich, but we can teach men to like have boundaries. And some of those times those boundaries as men are eroded when we look at only fans in pornography. Those things cause men to not actually have boundaries when it comes to women. They fumble, they don't know how to speak to women.

When they do, they simple in these women. And when they do so, they're less attractive and to the woman, they're less attractive to the woman and then their lives are also worse. When men have boundaries and men act masculine, it's not just better for the man, it's also better for his girlfriend. She enjoys him more as well.

And so we've lost a lot of that because of social media and because of that, you see just see this massive disparity and dating that's happened recently. So the last topic for the money Monday's we like to talk about charity. Obviously you've been hosting a ton of charity events over the years. Why do you think it's important for people to attend charity

events, do charity or incorporate charity into their businesses? Here's the first thing, let's go back to what we were just talking about before. I like going to model citizen fund and babes in Toiletland. I like going to those events because I likees in Toilet and I like going to those events because I like to have friends that aren't psychopaths. And I have a theory that if you are a person

who's like literally, I'm talking about literal anti social personality disorder, those type of people aren't gonna keep going to charity events. They're gonna go once, they're gonna go twice. And then afterwards, they're gonna be like, I'm not getting anything out of this. Like there's no, what's in it for me?

So sociopaths, narcissists, people with borderline personality disorder, histrionics, or macchi valiant people, those people want something for nothing. They want to be, they want to be verified or veiled for it. They want to be validated. They want to be, um, agitated as much as they can. And they want to do as little work as possible. Charity events are the opposite. What do I do at charity events? I give, give, give, give, give, that's what I do. And so when I started surrounding myself with people who were involved with charity, I just found myself around a group of better human beings.

That makes sense. That's the first thing. I'm gonna say as far as networking is concerned, you're gonna find better people to meet, date, hire, work for if you just spend your social life instead of doing cocaine in the VIP, instead of doing that, going to a charity and helping raise money or give toys for kids,

I just think that's a better way to live your life. Additionally, what happens is, and co-hatters such a great example of this, make money matter, is the concept of like when you just do things for other people and ask for nothing in return, I just, me and Dan can only express this to you, but until you experience it, it won't't make any sense when you do things for people and ask for nothing in return Just this work. I can't even because I'm a I'm a science guy, but I can't explain it scientifically

You just do this and then everything just fucking works out. I don't know how to explain it You always make rent your company 4x is every year or 10Xs every year. People want to network with you. Just imagine this concept. Here's the other reason why. When you work with charities, you feel gratitude because you are helping people who are less fortunate and you see what they're going through.

Imagine if anyone who's watching this right now, imagine if I could just do a little spell on you and the spell made it so that more people wanted to work with you You were more attractive. You were better at thinking and you made more money and You just had a more peaceful content life What if I could just literally just give you that spell? There is a spell It's called gratitude if you just have gratitude

You just get all those things but you have an ego that was developed through 200,000 years of evolution to make you not feel gratitude. The charity thing brings you back to gratitude. When you see, I remember I used to work at a soup kitchen, I'll never forget, this one guy comes up and he's just like, he smells so bad and his eyeball is missing. I can see all the way to the back of his eyeball and it just stuck with me and I started, I was my first day there and I started volunteering every week because of this and started getting involved with all these charities. Have you ever seen an animal suffer? Well, with animal rescues, a cheat code. Everyone will come to animal rescue. stay there and I started volunteering every week because of this and started getting involved with all these charities.

If you've ever seen an animal suffer, by the way, animal rescues a cheat code. Everyone will come to animal rescue. I don't care if you're Republican, Democrat, Manor Woman, animal rescues a cheat code. If you guys want a charity to start that super easy, that's the one. But you do animal rescue stuff and you just see an animal suffering and you just consider it suffering. I don't know if you guys see an on TikTok, these these tick tock accounts where they rescue animals off the street and they bring them back to health and they get like 10 million likes of video.

They're crazy how popular this stuff is. And so that that's the other reason why there's a part of humanity where we're different from different from other mammals where we have empathy for our kin, right? And that empathy that we have is goes back to what I said before groups of men working together in order to accomplish a goal. If you, I remember this one interview that Kevin Garneck gave where he was like, if I turn around and my teammates on a fight, I'm jumping in with him.

I don't know what we're fighting about, but you better know I'm about to rock with you. Now when we get back to the locker room, I'm asked you, like, yo bro, what the fuck happened? But that level of empathy, you're on my team and I wanna protect you and help you. That's a very core key attribute of the homo sapien male. And so what I think is that when we get involved with charity, we're taking care of our kind. We're taking care of our team, right?

The human kind. Or we're taking care of animals that we care about. When it comes to like things like autism speaks or comes to things like cancer research or whatever. If you've had a family member that's ever had one of those things, then you're you're much more attuned to it and you're much more willing to help and you know a Chloe Tarratia as a brother who has autism and so she works with autism charities often because of that. Why is it because she's trying to protect her tribe? She's trying to do things for her tribe. So those are the reasons why I think being involved with charity, it gives you gratitude, you're surrounded, just by better human beings, right? And it just grounds you, and it helps you protect, the understanding of protecting your tribe.

I just think it's also a great way for networking. Like obviously, I wouldn't know you if it wasn't for charity. I wouldn't know half these people if it wasn't for charity. In some form or fashion, it was a charity that introduced me to almost every person that I know that's successful. So that's why I think, you know, that's probably the best thing to do.

And let me tell you one other thing, and you probably agree with me on this. I don't give a sh** if somebody donates a million dollars to a charity because it was a tax write off and because he wanted to feel good about himself and he doesn't give a sh** of the charity. We will take the money. I don't give a f***.

As long as the kids get the toys, I do not care if you're doing this to make yourself feel better or not. As like I think people need to not worry so much about the whole concept of, you're only doing this because you want people to see that you're giving. I don't give a f***.

The money still helps the children with cystic fibrosis. The money is still for cancer research. As long as the kids with the cancer get them research money and as long as the kids get the toys and as long as the animals get rescued, I don't care where the money comes from or what your intent is and neither should you if you're involved in this. All right ladies and gentlemen, obviously you can listen to Michael Sartain's podcast and get a lot more of this content.

You can see how deep that he goes and his questions and answers. He does different versions of his own podcast and he has, he works with Fresh and Fit and a lot of those type of other podcasts that create a lot of really good content. So check him on his social media. Obviously, you should already be hosting and hopefully following the Real Tars in and all of his very fun content. You've got to get 16,000 more followers today, it's probably only 2,000 away by now. So a couple of core important things.

The reason that we do this podcast is we want people to talk about money. We've stayed number one on the podcast charts in the entrepreneur category for 33 weeks in a row. That is thanks to you guys sharing the content, forwarding it to your friends, commenting, liking, subscribing, all those type of things. It's really important. We have to have these discussions, I have to be really blunt about these discussions because you have to make more money in your life. You have to talk about investing, you have to talk about bills, finance, credit, FICO scores, loans, and everything between you have to have these discussions with your friends,

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