The Money Mondays - Turning Setbacks Into Millions: Tim Storey & Natasha Graziano On Making, Multiplying & Giving Money

Episode Date: July 28, 2025

In this powerful double-feature episode of The Money Mondays, Dan Fleyshman sits down with two globally acclaimed mindset mentors—Tim Storey, renowned life coach to the stars, and Natasha Graziano, bestselling author and social media powerhouse.🎤 First up, Tim Storey opens up about his journey from a two-bedroom apartment with seven people to sharing the stage with world leaders like Nelson Mandela and speaking to audiences of 10,000+. He shares how his motive—not money—led to global influence, how to turn setbacks into comebacks, and why giving back is essential for long-term success.✨ Then Natasha Graziano joins the show, revealing how she went from broke and in debt as a single mom to building an international brand with over 13 million followers. She unpacks the mindset shift that changed her life, her strategies for landing brand deals before even hitting 500K followers, and her guiding philosophy: “Be it until you become it.”This episode dives deep into the three pillars of The Money Mondays:💸 How to Make Money: From commanding 6-figure speaking fees to influencer marketing hacks that pay📈 How to Invest Money: Real estate, branding, and the mindset behind spending to grow💖 How to Give It Away to Charity: The personal and business impact of generosityWhether you’re an aspiring speaker, influencer, or entrepreneur, this episode will inspire you to level up your life, lead with purpose, and build a legacy that lasts.Like this episode? Watch more like it 👇Watch ALL Full Episodes Here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs0D-M5aH-0IOUKtQPKts-VZfO55mfH6k---The Money Mondays is a business podcast here to teach you how to make money, invest money, and donate money by showcasing some of the world's most successful people and how they do the same. Hosted by serial entrepreneur Dan Fleyshman, the youngest founder of a publicly traded company in history, this money podcast gives you an exclusive behind the scenes look at how the wealthiest celebrities, entrepreneurs, athletes and influencers make, invest and donate money.If you want to learn more business and investing while you work to improve your financial life, you're in the right place! Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@themoneymondays?sub_confirmation=1Dan Fleyshman,The Money MondaysLearn more here: https://themoneymondays.comWatch all the podcast episodes: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs0D-M5aH-0IOUKtQPKts-VZfO55mfH6kLet’s Connect...Website: https://themoneymondays.comPodcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-money-mondays/id1663564091Twitter: https://twitter.com/themoneymondaysLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-money-mondays/about/TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@themoneymondaysFB: https://www.facebook.com/The-Money-Mondays-110233585203220/

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a very, very, very special edition of the Money Mondays podcast. We are here inside of a Hubble studio just completing a multi-day event where our next guest was the keynote speaker, the grand finale of The Three Day Mastermind by Greg Kimble. Now as you guys know, we cover three core topics, how to make money, how to invest money, how to give it away to charity. This gentleman has done all of the above and sprinkled on top for decades now

on television, on tour, and everything between. So, here's the thing. On these podcasts, as you're consuming the content, it's not just for you. It could be for someone from your past, your present, or your future. You might hear from real estate agents, celebrities, rappers, athletes, business moguls,

from Gary Vee to Dr. Gary Breck and everyone in between, you're learning different types of information that might not just be for you, it might be for someone else in your life that you don't even realize it. So take in this information, listen to our next guest, he's gonna give a quick two minute bio so we can get straight to the money.

It's a Tim story. Good to see you. It's always good to see you. So my bio is born in Los Angeles. Mother worked at Winchell's Donut Shop. Have you ever been there before? I grew up next to it in Long Beach. Okay.

Where they did the Snoop Dogg video. 100%. The What's My Name video. Yeah. I live right there. And then dad worked at Beth Lamb Steel, was a steel worker. But one of the things that was cool, Dan, is that I am the youngest of five children, so my three older sisters always made sure I did my homework.

So even though we were like lower income, I remember my mother saying, we might be lower income but we're not lower class because we had seven people in a two bedroom apartment. But I was really in school and I wasn't trying to be the person that the teachers liked, but the teachers liked me. Sure. So I had a likable personality, I had a lot of humor and loved school and just started taking off. Ended up going to seminary because I wanted to be a cool Mother Teresa. So the way you give out toys

and all the humanitarian work you've been doing all these years, that's what I gave my life to. So starting at 18, I was in seminary and had already started like programs for inner city kids to think big in small places. That was the whole course. That's what it was called, thinking big in small places.

And then I'm like you, I'm a bit creative. So I went and got some NFL players to start coming into inner city neighborhoods with me. And a couple of the stars said, hey, how old are you? I said 18. They said, what the heck? And one guy who became a Hall of Famer, he said, I've got money. You got a skillset. Let's go. So since I was 18 years of age, this is what I do. So what's the turning point when you turn it into a business, when you become Tim Story?

When is it, was it, Was it Oprah that made that happen? Was it you going to your first stages? What was the turning point that made you from little Timmy to Tim Story? So I think in life, some things you decide and some things you discover. So I never decided I was gonna be a businessman and own many, many businesses

and be part of a lot of businesses as I am now. I never made that decision early. I discovered it. And the way I discovered it is that by helping people, so if I was with these NFL players or NBA guys, I'd hear them talking business. And because I like to read a lot, so it goes back to this education component. I would then say, so, okay, what are you going to do with this? Or how come that, or what would it be?

And I good idea to do this. And they started to pick up on, man, this guy, he's, he's quick. He's quick. So I started picking up on the business side of things from the very people that were helping me to help inner city kids. Was there one stage you first remember? Was there like one moment like, whoa, I'm Tim Story. Yeah.

Like 100%. It was when Nelson Mandela came to see me. So it had been talked about that for real, Mandela thinks you're awesome. And his people are really talking you up to him that you got that Mandela vibe. There's a humility about you, a texture to you, that you're a revolutionary person and he's going to come and see you. And at that time I was only 31 years of age. I was speaking to 10,000 people.

I remember when he rolled up, I was probably like eight minutes into my talk and I went like, oh my goodness. It was like a shift. It was that. It was that. It was that. It was that shift of like this is for real. Yeah. So for someone out there listening that might want to become a professional speaker, when's the turning point when you go from speaking at events for free to now you're commanding

50,000, 75,000, 100,000, sometimes six figures more to go international. What's the turning point to actually get paid for the first time, whether it's a thousand bucks or five grand, that first time to actually get paid? I think you would agree with this. I think that motive is a thing that has made me, that my motives were always good, where I wanted to just help people. And based on that motive, I just kept getting invited. Like companies would invite me,

and this is like when I was really young and they would say, and by the way, we're gonna pay you $15,000. And I said, for how long? And they go, no, for an hour, buddy. And that just blew my mind. Like what the heck? And so then they would say, and we have other friends

that we can hook you up to. So I think the motive is so important that to me it was not about monetizing at first. It was about the motive and creating what I call a signature message. And my signature message to start with was how to turn your setbacks to a comeback. And who hasn't had a setback?

We all have. So, Dan, what happened is that I started getting invited all these places, but because I'm almost too nice, I needed my lawyer to make the deal. Interesting. So I brought in lawyer to make the deal. Interesting. So I brought in an outside source to negotiate because I was too nice. So if you're listening and you can't afford that, you can become that by just changing

your name and changing email address. So you can become Jennifer, the assistant. You could be Robert, the assistant. You could email on the behalf of you the speaker So good actually and first who can afford it when you're first getting started But it adds this level of credibility to have an assistant to go back and forth and you're doing it to actually get paid You're doing it to be to turn into a business because you got to pay your rent Yeah, also fun fact the highest paid profession in the planet per hour is

Speaking. Yeah, nothing's even close. No athlete, no celebrity, no nothing. Which is amazing. And as you know even, as much as me or more than me, that's why some of the biggest entertainers in the world are trying to get in this space. For sure. Literally the biggest they want in this space. When we're booking household name speakers for other people's events all the time, obviously we're booking an Aspire Tour together all the time with these celebrities and athletes because it is, how else are you going to get 100 grand, 200 grand, 300 grand to speak

for an hour and the company's marketing you. Yes. Right? In Aspire Tour for example, they're spending six figures, mid six figures or more per month promoting their event with the flyer of Tim Story, me, the celebrity, the athlete, et cetera. So they're getting marketing during this time, leading up to the event as well. Not just the game.

And let me just say thank you to you about things like that. So one of the things you've always been to me, because we're friends first, and we love each other as brothers, but you've always looked out for me like, man, Tim would fit in here, Tim would fit in here, and then Tim should stay here. Because even like at Aspire, there's a lot of people that have come and gone, but I've

been rolling with that group now for two and a half years. And a lot of that is because of you secretly having my back all the time. But tell me why you chose to have my back in some of these things. You're the one, you fit into that thing. It's not like I'm doing a favor, you are that guy. A lot of people come and go, a lot of speakers come and go, we've seen it happen over and over and over.

They think that they can handle being on tour 12 months a year, they can't. They have family, life, friends, situations. You've been there every single time for 28 shows, 29 shows in a row. People can't do that, they're not built like you. And I'm there early. It starts at eight, I'm there early.

I stay to the damn end. You see me all around, everywhere, just talking to people. But again, that's my upbringing. But what else? Most of the speakers, they land at 1040 AM, they speak at 12 PM, they're done at 1 PM, and they're back on a plane by 2 22. Yes. Yes. And they have to be like, it's like, as if they couldn't stay for another hour or two.

No, that makes sense. So the monetizing side, I like what you just said that they could do that through another email. So I would use my attorney. He would make the deal. Then I would come in. And then I started to realize that, man, I'm more liked than I'm giving myself credit for. And it wasn't like low self-esteem. It's almost like we were just taught that we had to be humble. We should be humble. That's just how my mother taught us about life.

And so again, I needed outside people to say, hey, Tim, you're worth that. You should be on that stage with those people. Because I almost for a while had imposter syndrome, like how come this stuff is happening to me at such a big level? Yeah. So again, on the making money side, you get bombarded by events now, right? For years, obviously. How do you choose, right? If you're booked to be in South Africa, then you're in Malaysia, then you're back to LA, then you're off to Dallas, Texas, then they want you in Dubai, then they want you in New York. That's a lot of travel. But in between there, people are offering you 50 grand, 100

grand, however much it is. How do you say no? Okay. So that became a tough one for me. So I would say from age like 27 for about 20 years, I was too busy. I was just moving too fast. Yes to everything. Yes to everything. Because pro golfers have told you and me, it's just hard to say no when they're giving you literally like a car. So when you were raised like us, right?

They're like, dude, we're paying you a car. I remember this one guy in Ghana was trying to get me. He says, I don't think you're getting what I just told you. I'm going to give you $80,000. Right. Plus travel. Plus travel. Plus travel and the size of the diamond ring he wanted to give me for a woman. He says, who's your woman right now?

I will get her the greatest diamond ring. Yeah. And he was sincere about it too. And then it happened. Yeah. But yeah, but for that period of time, I was moving too fast. But again, this is some wisdom that I learned from the older guys. Put the right team around me.

Because I remember Lee Iacocca, he said, you teach me about life, I'll teach you about money. And Iacocca was the man, as you know. And so I learned to always have a good team around me to help me with my investing, what I was doing, what companies I was letting use my name, because a lot of those things I didn't know, and then I started learning more and more about that in my 30s. So let's talk about the investing side of the world. Why is it important for people to invest into themselves? Why should they be reading books, watching courses, going to masterminds,

going to live events? Why should they be investing into themselves? I think that it is the most important thing because we are like a walking gold mine. And when you look at somebody like a prince, the singer, had he not invested in himself to see how many instruments he could play and how he could make that sound be that sound, then people began to discover that. But he had to invest in himself through the practice and the mentorship. So I began to invest in myself and pay money. I started going to see a therapist who taught at USC.

She was very well known, named Dr. Helen Mendez, African American lady, and I'd pay her her fee and more. And I would say, I want to do this thing called life coaching because life coaching really didn't start getting popular until later. So this is in the eighties. And she says, Tim, I'm telling you, you could be like a forerunner, mostly amongst our people. And so I invested in her. I used to give her extra gifts and I invested in other people to come into my life because I knew that I was building up wealth inside of me that I could then therefore release to others.

So over the course of your career, as you're making 50 grand, 100 grand a night and sometimes you're doing it week after week or three or four times in the same week, what are you doing with the capital? Was there ever times you're investing in the companies, investing in the real estate? Like how are you deciding what to invest into? Yeah, again, this was very powerful men in Beverly Hills that were much older than me. One of them was my friend Marvin. Um, Marvin is very, very wealthy and he'd say, Tim, I love you like a son.

You can run this by your guys, but this is what I would do. I take this amount. I put it here. I take this amount. I put it here. I take this amount. I put it here, but then I would question Marvin so I could it here. I take this amount, I put it here. But then I would question Marvin so I could then learn. So everybody needs a Marvin. Because Marvin's motives were good. Marvin

never said, and when you make this much money, I want this percentage. And Marvin saw my money start to go, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching. It got a little crazy, and in a beautiful way. And I think that's another time where I had to get a mind shift change that this is your life now, Tim. This is supposed to be your life. This is not just happening and it's gonna go away in two years. This is your life, and it has been my life since I was 20 years of age.

So to me, most speakers, unfortunately, aren't very good at social media. You've taken it on to a whole new level. Yes. You're live Instagram stories, posting from the events, getting photos with the other speakers, posting that, doing behind the scenes funny stuff, serious stuff, and everything in between. Did you learn from someone? Does this evolve or you just watched the evolution of time

of why you need to be involved in social media? Well, I do listen to people like you. And I feel like our conversations have really helped about really posting about things that authentic to me, like what is my brand? So I think my brand is joy, my brand is goodness, my brand is next level. And I did see my social media just literally explode when I just started posting about what I'm about, which is life.

And I love the fact, this thing about social media is so wild, that you know how it is. We could roll through even like a CBS and people come up to you and say all these things. And you think, oh, you may have seen me just now on the NBC Today show or just, you know, last week I was on Nightline on ABC. But it's not that. It's social media.

Facebook and TikTok. They know you all about social media and they feel very connected that way. So a lot of events, they are monetizing from sales from stage. Yeah. Where they sell something that they believe in or a package or a course or a one year program but then they bring you in. Yes. And it's typically right before the main speaker or the main sale from stage which is how they

monetize their event which is you know keeps the lights on. It's very expensive to throw live events, especially the events you speak at are 2,000, 3,000 people, for example. Yes. Why you? What do you think it is that makes it so that someone is more encouraged or more eyes wide open to wanna make a purchase

to better their life? Yeah, I think one of the gifts that I have is to talk to people's hearts and really locate them of where they are and then speak to them of where they can go to. So I can help them take inventory like right now I may be in a challenging time, but if you take these steps and you walk with us here at this company, we could take you from dimension to dimension to dimension.

So I feel that people trust me because you're right, that's a role that I am usually in. So talk to me about investing into relationships. You spend time again, you're staying at these events backstage all day long, it would be very easy for you to fly out like the other speakers. Why are you spending the money, time, and energy to build these relationships? Okay, so you notice that I text you just to say thank you. Out of nowhere.

We may not have even been at an event. I'm just saying, hey, love you, and then you send me some kind of really cool emoji that you can get somewhere from your phone. Okay, so what that is about to me is gratitude, but extended. So not that I just say good things behind Dan's back, but I wanna say it to your face.

So every single day of my life, every single day of my life, I text 10 people. Wow, that's great. Every day of my life. That's 4,000 people a year. I text 10 people and I tell them, I think you're awesome. I know you've been through that, but you're going to get out of it. Congratulations on your baby. You guys just had a baby.

10 people every single day. So when you hear the quote, your network, it's relevant to your net worth. Yeah. What are your thoughts about that? Well, I think in your case and my case, it is working. Again, it's motive. Like for instance, I was minding my own business and then I would meet a director who then

would say, I'm working on a Will Smith film. Maybe I want you to work with me and Will on that film. I wasn't looking for that. So it wasn't like I saw that guy. I remember being with Stephen Soderbergh who did Ocean's 11, 12, 13. And it was at a party and he was just kind of by himself. And we just started talking about life.

Okay. But I never thought, it's Steven Soderbergh. I wonder what I could get out of this Sunday. But it's so interesting on how a lot of my relationships that I sowed seed into years ago, they just started coming back to me in friendships, connections, or he's the guy. So even like right now, you know,

I'm working on a talk show. And so we have interests from all the big networks, CBS, ABC, Fox, Telepictures, because Dr. Phil is not doing it the same way. And I think we will do it in the right time. Again, when I'm walking in these guys' offices, I'm not selling anything. They're liking me because they're like, dude, I've been following you for 20 years. You encouraged me one time.

You even life coached me and wouldn't take my money. So that's pretty wild, I think. Why do celebrities, athletes, and business moguls come to you as a life coach or in bad situations? Okay, so a lot of people will come to me, people in the addiction space, people that are in trouble financially. But I became known in the spaces that you're talking about by starting with the few Beverly Hills moguls that did well, and I had the right answers for them. But Dan, part of the reason I had the right answers is I study. So I study two hours a day. So already today, I studied two hours today. So whether

I'm reading Think and Grow Rich or Atomic Habits, or I'm watching a Kobe Bryant interview when he was alive on YouTube, or I'm watching one of your shows, I'm studying two hours a day to grow myself out. So I think that I started to get a skill set to where I made a table, stay quiet, and then listen up. That's what started blowing me away. When I started sitting with the James Cons and sitting with the Elliot Goulds and these powerful guys at the pole lounge and the James Conn would go, hey, hey, hey, hey, don't say a word.

Tim, what do you think of this? That's when I thought, man, I'm onto something. It wasn't just charisma. It was, I was dropping knowledge. So let's talk about the charity side of things on the Money Mondays. Why do you think it's important for us as humans, let's say I run a family household, why inside of my family household should I have some type of charity around my wife, husband, children, parents, etc.?

So there's something about reaping what you sow and there's something about this idea of when I let something go, somehow God or the universe brings it back to you. And I really believe this with all my heart that what I make happen for someone else, life will make happen for me. And I remember my mother, even though she worked at Winchell's, she's raising the kids after my father passes when I'm only 10. She's got five kids. How we would go to church and she would give to the church. And she stayed faithful in her giving. But I look at her now. She's like gonna be 95 soon Her houses are paid off

You know her kids do well and we've always taken care of her. So You you you reap what you sow? So I don't give out of the idea of getting back. I I give because I care, just like you, and I want to make somebody's life more beautiful and better, but doggone it, it comes back. It'll come back to you. So a similar question, but someone that's listing that owns a company and they've got 35 employees, they're building up their business, Why should they incorporate philanthropy and charity into their business

with their staff? I actually think that it's a must. It's essential. It's where the world is. So right now we have a world that is not just living in the mundane. The mundane is we're just doing things regular. We're not just living in the messy where things are disheveled. We're living in the madness. There's a lot of madness in this world. For sure.

And the healers, we're the healers. So it's common guys like us, who life has chosen us to do uncommon things. So if you've been blessed with a business and you can get in the middle of all this chaos and bring healing, even if it's toys at Christmas, or backpacks for back to school, or feeding people, because we do it all. Man, you're changing somebody's life, and who knows who that person's gonna change. Wow.

So there's only one question that I ask on every single episode, and I've never gotten the same answer once. So many, many years from now, after you've amassed this wealth, and unfortunately at some time, hopefully it's many, many years, 50, 100 years from now, it's time for Tim to pass away. What percentage of that massive net worth do you leave to your children? So I know that some of the powerful men don't leave that much to their children.

I'm going to leave a lot to my children. And the reason I'm going to do that is because I've been teaching them responsibility along the way. So I really will tell them, like, you got this Xbox, it was not easy to get. And boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. When the Power Rangers were hot and my son wanted them when he was a little, little kid, and I said, let me tell you something, hardly anybody can get the Red Ranger. I found it in Denver.

It wasn't easy. Just know what I've done, man. I sacrificed my life. So there's usually a lesson with a gift. But I'm going to leave a lot to my children. I've got about it because I'm into leaving a legacy and wealth and wealth and wealth. So Dan, we don't have to start like we started. By God's grace, we will never go back to where we were. Not even close. All right. Where can people find you on social media? Where can they check out anything you've been up to in particular? Yes.

Podcasts, books, live events, what's going on in your world. Yeah, so TimStory.com. So Tim and then S-T-O-R-E-Y.com. And Dan, in front of everybody, thank you again for loving me, having my back, and caring about people. Thank you. All right, guys. You're listening to The Money Mondays, where we cover our three core topics about making money, investing money, and giving away a charity.

But this is what's truly important. The reason the podcast has done so well is because of your support, liking, commenting, subscribing, et cetera. So as you guys are going through life, you've got to have blunt discussions with your friends, family, and followers. We grew up thinking it's rude to talk about money.

I think that's ridiculous. You've got to be able to talk about loans, salaries, accounts, taxes. What do you do with your bank? What happens if you borrowed 500 bucks? How do you get it back? These are real life things that go on in your life. You gotta feel comfortable talking about it

with people in your world so we can make this a better financial society. So I appreciate you guys. Check out Tim's story across social media and timstory.com. We'll see you guys next Monday on themoneymondays.com. ["Money Mondays"] Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Money Mondays podcast where we cover three core topics, how to make money, how to invest money, how to give away to charity. This next guest has done all of those things all over the planet on the biggest stages.

You've seen her on social media. You've seen her at, I don't know, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 events a year, year after year after year, spreading her positivity message, which is super important to me, because I like uplifting people, and she's been doing that at the highest level across the planet, sometimes at events together, sometimes events, I've seen her in some amazing events

all around the world. Give it up for Miss Natasha Graziano. Woo, what an intro, I love that, thank you so much for having me. Pleasure. So as you guys know, we cover these three core topics. What I need from you, Natasha, is to do a quick two minute bio

so we can get straight to the money. Love it. Okay, so he pretty much did it so well to a T. I started about eight years ago at this point. 2019 was really when my rock bottom happened. That was when I found myself on my lowest. That was the point where everything came crashing down around me. And in that moment I was broke and in hundreds of thousands of debt.

I was unwell and I was trying to overcome life and get back on my feet. I was a single mom. Something shifted in my mind. Something in that moment told me you're going to be a motivational speaker. And I didn't know what it was, but I knew there was something greater for me out there. And so I decided to commit to a different goal, something that wasn't about my current reality, that was something else. And from there, I built, I started a podcast, I started creating a business, I started creating

a coaching business, and then the ripple effect, selling books, etc., etc., to where we are today. We're going to talk about the etc., etc., so we're not leaving out any details today. So tell us on the make money side of this podcast, you go from wanting to be a speaker, a lot of times people go speak at events or they DJ at a party for free at first to get their name, get their connections. When was the first time you asked for money? When you're like, you know what, I want to get paid a thousand bucks, five grand, not

what you're getting now, 50k, 100k. Talk about the times when you're trying to get a thousand, five thousand. Wow, so I actually decided to build a lot of value first. Like, I was not gonna go out there off the rip and be like, okay, I wanna be paid. Because it doesn't work like that. You have to build your name, build your credibility, build your validation, build who you are

by being what you talk about, and taught me actually very well, being omnipresent. You have to be everywhere so that you create hype, you create FOMO, you create value, literally like fireworks. So I'll say, how do I get to that place? So the first time I ever charged was probably the 10th time I went on a stage.

I didn't charge for so many at first, because I would say muscle minutes, that was a year, because I was building my name, that was a year because I was building my name, building a rapport, getting to know other big speakers and building who I was so that when I then go in, we're saying, okay, you know what? I'm going to charge $5,000 this first time. It was a slam dunk, yes. And then you know, okay, that was cool and we do 10.

And then you do corporate goes up to 50, then it keeps growing. What do you think on the making money side, what do you think holds people back from making money? There's a huge mental block, it seems like, in our society where people feel like they're capped. They make 30 grand a year, or 40 grand a year, 50 grand a year, and they don't think that they can do more because of X, Y, Z.

What do you think is holding them back? The limitations in their own mind. We look around us and go, I'm never gonna be as good as them. Like, I'm never gonna be like them. So we start to put these limitations and blocks, which are the walls of our own mind. That's all they are. Usually it's down to imposter syndrome. So we have this little voice that sits there and tells you, you're never going to do it. Give up now. You're never going to have a voice like him. Give up now. Oh,

you're never going to earn money like her. Give up now. And so we stop achieving at our highest level. We stop believing in ourselves. And we start to listen to the little voice. That is just imposter syndrome. And what is on the other side of that imposter syndrome is success. It was like when they were digging for the diamonds and they gave up right before.

It's a very famous story. We all know it. And those people who originally were finding it and they gave up right before, it's a very famous story, we all know it, from those people who originally were finding it, and they gave up one meter, one meter before they found the diamonds. What does that say about life? It's the same thing. Impulsa Syndrome happens to tell you,

you are in the right place. You are meant to be there, because you are about to feel success. You are about to find the diamonds. You are about to become the diamonds. You are about to become the diamonds. So there's a famous book that she's referencing by Greg Reed called Three Feet from Gold and in this book it explains and it shows a picture kind of what she's describing where they're just they're spiking spiking spiking digging

digging digging and they stop and then if you look at the other side of the meme they kept digging and right behind there was you know the diamonds and gold. All right on the social media influencer was you know the diamonds and gold. All right on the social media influencer side you know you've built up 13 million followers and growing. When you first got to the 100,000 and then 200,000, 500,000 when do you start to decide I'm going to start charging money to do brand deals? I mean as soon as I had 500,000 followers I would have charged before that but I didn't

get savvy enough to think about it. I would have charged before that, but I didn't get savvy enough to think about it. I would have charged at 100,000. Anybody who has an influence of 100,000 followers and more should be making money on social media. I think, to be honest, you can even make money at $10,000. But I think the truth is, just deciding, I am worthy of this, and I'm using my platform to help people.

I want to make money. I deserve to make money, so I'm going to. And then I'm using my platform to help people. I want to make money. I deserve to make money. So I'm going to. And then I started to reach out to people and my questions were phrased when I would email them. Perhaps an assistant would do it or I'd email as an assistant and say, here's where we're starting. So I'd have a VA, you know, at some point have a VA. But before the VA, I remember emailing myself and saying, I was test running it. Hey, Natasha would be interested in promoting a brand. What's the budget for your campaign?

So immediately I'm asking you what your budget is, so you tell me, well, we have this much to pay you. That was fantastic. That changed my life because I was able, in fact, that was how I got out of being broke originally. I was in a charity store, which you call a thrift store. And I was in London. I had no money, and my little baby was with me in the store.

And I put him on the floor, and he was playing with the toys. And I said to the girls, can you watch him while I go in the street and just get a stranger to take a picture on my phone wearing one of your outfits? And they were like, sure. They were so nice to me. Like, I made friends with these girls. They had nothing. I could never afford these clothes at the time. I couldn't even, I was, we're in a thrift store. I couldn't even afford the thrift store clothes.

So they gave me an outfit and I remember it was this brand called AX Paris. And I put the outfit on and I walked into the street and I literally, it was on this beautiful corner and I said to anybody passing, oh, they look like they're going to take a picture, take a picture. So I stood and I took a picture and that was when everything changed because I posted that first picture online. I tagged the brand. The brand DMed me, Natasha, we absolutely love this, but we'd actually like to send you some of our current season and pay you.

And that first 150 or 250, whatever it was at the time, dollars was pounds turned into the empire I have today. Wow. So what do you think holds someone back from doing what you just said? What do you think holds someone back from making some content and doing what your book is called, be it till you become it? Well, I think that they decide that they cannot do it.

They put the word cannot where they should put can. I do not believe in fear. Fear is just false evidence appearing real. So people get caught in their fears. They don't fly because of it. They don't do so many things because of their fears. You have to get on the other side of your fears and say, no, I'm not going to let this hold me back. Here's my end goal. And here's the big reason that most people fail and quit way before they even began. Because they don't have a big enough why. They don't have a reason that they are doing it for. When I go and do anything, whether I'm

doing brand deals, why am I doing those brand deals? Okay they're on a much larger scale now. We're in multiple six, seven figures for some of the things I do. And why do I do them? For my children, for my future children, for my future grandbabies, and for the children in the charity that I support. So I do it because there is something greater inside of me that needs to fulfill that for them. I'm not doing this for Natasha's little outfits anymore or Natasha's lifestyle. That is an offset of what I have. The fact that I get to live a lavish lifestyle and travel and be the way that I do is amazing, but I'm doing this for the greater good.

So I connect my why to my will, which gives you purpose. So someone's out there and they got their first 10, 20,000 followers and they're ready to message to a brand, what should they say? Like how do they say, like, draw up the courage to finally say, hey, AX Paris fashion brand, pay me. Okay, ChatGVT is fucking amazing. Go on ChatGVT, it will write it for you,

but I'll tell you how to prompt it, and then I'll tell you how to write it if If you don't use chat to be, too, you don't need to have you to, you're going to say something like, Hey, brand, absolutely love your pieces. I would love to collaborate with you. I have the 200,000 followers I have here on Instagram. I also have on TikTok X and on Facebook X. And when I go through the places that you have value might be an email list,

whatever it is, and then say, I would absolutely love to promote your products to my audience. Love name, or from name, warmly name, whatever you want. Now, if you want to prompt Chat2BT, you've got to get amazing at prompts. So I would say something to Chat2BT. Write me an email that is going to be persuasive, using NLP, that is going to want the brand to work with me. And this is the name of the brand, and this is the campaign that I want to do with me. And this is the name of the brand, and this is the campaign that I want to do with them.

And then it will write it for you. I love it. So at my social media agency for the last 14 years, we've done over 110,000 paid posts. Fucking wild. With those influencers, the biggest thing is the ones that actually reach out to the brands get the deals.

So many influencers are waiting around for the brands to DM them. them. And by the way, a lot of brands do DM you and you don't see it because you get hundreds of messages a day. So a lot of times brands do message you and you don't see it or they do email you and you don't see it or they message your manager, your agent or someone and you don't hear about it. And so being proactive is what I've seen over and over and over how influencers make money or not even just influencers. Single mom, three kids makes money to do YouTube videos about cooking because she proactively reached out to brands and because of that the brand posted her and now her and her three kids have huge following because the brand actually promoted them because they're

reposting their content. All right, so let's go to the investing side. You've invested a lot of time, money, energy into yourself, into your personal brand. Why is it important for someone to build up their personal brand? Your personal brand is your passport and it is your business card. It is everything.

Your personal brand walks in the room before you. Your personal brand, you have the strongest personal brand. Everybody knows Dan Fleischmann. There are so many things that go into that. For somebody who doesn't have a personal brand, they're not getting on the stages. They're wondering why they're not getting on podcasts. They're wondering why they're not doing anything and collaborating with amazing people. The people who are collaborating have the most incredible personal brands. Gary Vee, we could start there, one of the top personal branding experts in America. So when you look at people who really invest in their social media in themselves, in their

team and everything around them, they will build a strong personal brand because that will go in the door before them. It's walked me into red carpet events, huge award ceremonies. It's got me awards. It's gotten me where I am events, huge award ceremonies. It's got me awards. It's gotten me where I am because when people think of Natasha Graziano, I may not have like a branding color theme. Some people do like Virgin, Amazon, you think red, orange. They have mass branding colors. That's a really great way to do a personal brand as well. But I've invested in me exponentially where my voice just carries that way. My outfits carry that way. The way that I dress, the way I where my voice just carries that way. My outfits carry that way.

The way that I dress, the way I speak, combined with the way that I just say it in such an outrageous way, I can think of many people like that who I don't even really know their name, but I know their brand. Like I'd be able to find them based on that. So sometimes you will get a scarcity mindset.

You went through really tough financial times, but now you're starting to make money. How do you get past that to finally invest into a real estate deal or a company or a product or even like hire PR and spend money and like, oh, I'm going to spend 5,000, 10,000. Because I know for me, I have, I want to spend money, but I still think about being broke. Right. It's still in the back of my mind. Yeah.

So talk to me about how do you get mentally passed out? Well, I used to have that same thing. It's a broken mindset versus a growth mindset. We get caught in this, oh my God, if I spend money, I'm not going to make more. Here's the really interesting thing. Every couple of years, I rent my home that I live in. I buy my assets that I rent out because I want to live in the fricking most luxurious, amazing place, but I want to make money while I'm sleeping from my assets,

which are being rented out. And there's multiple of them. So, you know, this is my way of thinking. So I decided I push myself to buy rent, sorry, an even bigger place or more abundant, more expensive essentially every two years so that I am forced to make more money. And then because of that, I go and invest it. So some people are like, you're wasting money on rent.

No, I'm living how I want to. But what I'm doing is I'm forcing myself to make more money. It's a mindset. If I know I've got to make that amount every single year, I'm going to make triple it. And you just do, you keep making more money. It's a mindset. If I know I've got to make that amount every single year, I'm going to make triple it. And you just do, you keep making more money as you level up. So getting out the broken mindset is as simple as deciding how much do I need to put aside to be able to invest in that property or to invest in myself. If you do not invest in you, nobody else is going to invest in you. Whether you're buying properties, real estate or investing in PR, whatever you are doing, you want to do it because you know it's going to move you forward. It's moving

the needle forward. It's having money coming in while you sleep, a passive income, building your name online, whatever it is. It is so important to create that abundance for yourself, that asset for yourself. And if you constantly sit with, I'm not going to do it, I can't do it, guess what you attract more to you? More of the I'm never going to get it stuff. And then you don't make more money. In fact, you stay exactly where you are. If not, you go down. So you have to be willing to take a risk so that you can invest and get something good in return. So walk us through the book, this whole concept of the be it before you become it.

Walk us through that. Okay, so be it till you become it is my favorite way of saying fake it till you make it. I fucking hate fake it till you make it because at school when I was young I was called fake and I hated it and it really pierced my heart. I was like, why do they think I'm fake? Because I'm so nice all the time and bubbly and super like, hey, how are you? Like what's happening in your,

they, where I was from in the UK, very reserved and like, you know, you tell them, how are you? Fine. It's not, I'm amazing. I was just super grateful and it wasn't received in the right way. And because of that, I decided, well, I want to be who I am, but I want to be a millionaire. How do I be her? And as we started, you know, into the these later years, I decided I want to be the version of me before I get there. So if I want to be a multimillionaire,

then I have to be her now. If I want to be an amazing wife, I don't wait till I'm married to be an amazing wife. I'd be her now. If I want to be a super successful business owner, I want to be an amazing wife, I don't wait till I'm married to be an amazing wife, I be her now. If I want to be a super successful business owner, I have to be them now. You have to be the version of you you want to become in five to ten years, today, this side. How do they think? How do they feel? How do they act?

Because all of this becomes your character, which is who you are. So let's talk about the charity side of things. Why do you think it's important for people to involve charity into their households, like with them, themselves, their family, their friends? Well whatever you believe in, whatever text, whatever books you believe in, they always say giving to charity, you know, whether it's 10%, whatever it is, is so important for you as a growth, you know, in your own growth, in your own way. I believe charity is one of the most important things we ever do because

it's again, going back to what I talked about earlier, your why. It's why you're doing everything in your life. It's why you're showing up. It's like, why am I playing at this level? It's not only for my immediate family, it's for the families that I want to feed. It's for the children I want to serve or whatever that is to you. It could be a horse charity that you support. Beautiful. It could be a dog charity that you support. It could be whatever it might be. You find the thing that means something to you and that's where you donate every month, every week, whatever it is that you can that feels good. Some people do hundreds of millions of dollars. You're one of these people who does enormous things

with philanthropy and you're very known for it. But and you know the feeling it gives you. That amazing, wow, like I really I feel good about myself doing it but you do it for others. But the reward is so nice. You just know like, wow, I'm really I'm putting my heart in the right place. And we don't even need to scream about half the stuff we do. Some of it you want to. The reason we talk about charity is so we get other people to join in with you. But there are certain things that, you know, when I donate to certain things, I

don't, I don't talk about it, but we do it because we're helping others and you will see so much abundance in your life as you give, you receive, just the flow of life. So there's only one question that I ask on every single episode, and I've never gotten the same answer before. So Natasha, over the course of time, you're gonna hopefully amount hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe even become a billionaire one day,

from all the things that you do with your business and your career. But unfortunately, at some point, you have to pass away. Right. What percentage of that net worth of those hundreds of millions of dollars do you leave to your children? I would leave 75% to my children and 25% I would give to an array of different charities.

I love it. All right, so where can people find you on social? Where can they check out your books, podcasts, everything you've got going on? Amazing. Okay, guys. So you can find me on social? Where can they check out your books, podcasts, and everything you've got going on? Amazing, okay you guys, so you can find me on Natasha Graziano everywhere, every single platform, and DM me, I love it, I love going to my DMs person me, reach out to me, if I can ever help you in any way,

it'd be a pleasure, I love connecting with my people, with my fans, my podcast is super fun, go find it from here, it's easy, it's called Law of Attraction Secrets and it's right there. So as you guys know on the Money Mondays we cover these three core topics about making money, investing money, and give away to charity.

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We have to talk about money, loans, taxes, banks, situations, borrowing money, should I lease, should I buy, should I rent. We don't get to talk about it because we think it's rude to talk about it. It's not rude. That's the whole point of this podcast. We have to have discussions with people in your household, people in your office, people in your school, everywhere. You've got to be able to have blunt discussions because it's part of people in your office, people in your school, everywhere. You've got to be able to have blunt discussions

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