The Moth - Getting Grown
Episode Date: February 17, 2023Here’s a taste of The Moth’s very first spinoff, Grown! Subscribe to Grown wherever you get your podcasts, or check out its website for more information: www.grownpod.com This episode i...s hosted by Sarah Austin Jenness.
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Welcome to The Moth Podcast. I'm Sarah Austin-Geness, your host for this episode.
We're going to break from our normal format to share something everyone at The Moth is really excited about. It's our first spin-off podcast ever,
and it's called Grown.
Grown is a podcast all about the in-between,
the strange, liminal space between childhood and adulthood.
It's about trying new things,
about figuring out who you are,
and about what it really means to grow up.
Each episode includes two hand-picked math stories introduced by our hosts, Aliza and
Fanzo, plus interviews, voices from teenagers, and so much more.
Whether you're still in those years or you're just looking back on them with a mix of nostalgia
and maybe anxiety, we think you'll get a lot out of it.
But I think the best way to introduce you to grown is by playing it.
So without any further ado, here's some of grown's very first episode.
When you're online to give in your ticket for the dance, you can already hear the music
coming through the door of the school gym, which smells like
ax body spray, but with like a layer of debris over it
because they tried to hide it for the dance.
You're walking through the door of the gym
after handing your ticket and the DJ booth
to the right is blasting music, but the acoustics are awful
and they're not reaching the other side of the gym.
On one side, you have the snacks table
and all of the sixth grade boys
are there shoving chips in their face
and in Minecraft t-shirts,
and then you have the other side,
which is the dance floor,
and it's mostly girls,
but some guys too,
and some guys and girls dancing,
well, the kids, some girls and boys,
dancing a little too close together and the teachers
pulling them apart.
And I had this huge crush on this guy.
I thought he'd asked me to the dance and I like see him across the way.
So Peter's walking up to the pretty scrum and grade with this big box in his hand and
he opens it up in real slow,
like those Apple iPhone boxes, slides open.
And in it is this glass rose.
And he like says something to her
and she starts like jumping up and down and giggling
and they hug like for a very long time.
And I'm just watching as like the balloon streamers
engulfed my body.
And I realized he did not ask me to the dance or maybe he lied to me, and I'm just watching as like the balloon streamers and gulf my body.
And I realized he did not ask me to the dance
or maybe he lied to me,
but he had just asked this girl to be his girlfriend
and I was crushed.
Wait, what was his dance?
It was like the Spring Fling Dance of seventh grade.
You had a dance in spring.
Yeah, the Spring Fling.
It's in the name, Fanzo.
Wow.
We had four dances a year.
What?
And I can remember what I wore to every single one of them.
What's four times three?
Why?
What's four times three?
Four dances a year.
12?
12.
Thank you.
12 dresses, and I remember every single one.
So where did you wear your spring fling?
I wore this green dress that had like a little bow.
And I remember I showed up and I thought I looked really cute
and this curl was like, that's what you're wearing.
And I wanted to like crawl until,
this is even before I get crushed.
She's like one crush after another crush in middle school.
Every time you have four times a year.
You're just getting stomped on, yeah.
Left and right.
Every day it's, I was saying I wouldn't have came to any of them.
Grown.
Grown.
Grown.
I'm Fanzo.
And I'm Alisa.
And this is Grown, a podcast from the mouth
full of stories about what it means to grow up.
On Grown, we're gonna have real people telling
real stories from their lives
about those in-between moments
where they're not really a teen,
but they're definitely not fully grown yet.
We're also gonna be hitting the streets,
talking to you about what it means to grow up,
and we'll be diving deep with teenagers
who we all know are really going through it.
And fans and I, we're on this journey with you.
We're gonna be reflecting on how these stories
make us think about our lives differently, and all the ways that we are kind of not fully grown either.
Yes, we're on this journey with you guys. We'll be exploring a lot of different things this season.
Things like secrets, culture, mental health, and a whole bunch more.
But for our very first episode, we're doing crushed. Stories about young love, expectations,
and feeling like the whole world might just explode.
First up is David Leppelstadt,
with a story that shows I wasn't the only one
with complicated middle school dances.
Here's David.
So throughout my middle school career,
I had many different crushes. It was about the time when I started to develop real feelings for my peers, but no one was
allowed to hear about any of them.
The first reason, rejection.
I was scared that I would admit that I liked someone and it would get to them, and then
they wouldn't like me back, and that just seemed like a scary position for me to be in.
The second reason was acceptance.
I was scared that I was gonna admit I liked someone,
that person finds out about it,
and they may like me back,
and then where do we go from there?
I was like, oh, maybe then we'll have to date,
and then, oh, what's this, we're broken up,
and then all of my friends don't like hers,
and all of her friends don't like mine,
and it just seemed like a lot of drama at the time.
But then eighth grade came, and along with eighth grade came my biggest crush of all.
It was on the scroll name Rachel,
who sat next to me in geography class,
and it just seemed like there was this time in my life
where I was only going to school just for that class,
and just to sit next to her
and race her on the geography video game
and see who could name more countries.
She was just amazing.
Like we had all these inside jokes with each other
and I just had this feeling
that I couldn't hold on to this crush any longer.
And lucky for me, our middle school prom
was right around the corner.
That's right, I went to a small progressive middle school
and we had a prom for the eighth graders.
So I was like, that's a great entrance into this romantic scene in my middle school and we had a prom for the eighth graders. So I was like, that's a great entrance
into this romantic scene in my middle school.
I'll ask Rachel out to prom.
So I went home and I looked up on Google
how to ask someone out to prom.
And I come across these things called prom puzzles, which
are these sort of like proposals for marriage,
but this time for the prom. And a lot of them
had this musical element, like, you know, someone sings a song or does a dance. So I'm thinking,
hey, you know, I'm kind of musical, I can do that. Next thing I know, I'm waiting for Rachel
outside a class, Eucalylally in hand. And I think her song asking her to prom. And it's a little bit overkill.
People are like, you could have just got flowers,
but she's laughing and she seems to really like it.
And perhaps think it was cute.
And she says, yes.
And I'm like, wow, this is so cool.
So next thing you know we're at prom.
And it's this under the sea theme.
There's inflatable lobsters on the floor.
Every table has a seaweed centerpiece,
and Rachel and I have this wonderful night,
like we're just talking the whole night,
and we never leave each other side,
and we even have our caricature drawn together
by the caricature artist,
which feels like a really big move for me.
Um, and it's just this magical,
nautical night, and at the end of it, we hug and we say good night.
And I walk away and I'm like, well, that wasn't so bad.
That wasn't so scary.
This is really cool.
The next day, a bunch of us middle school prom couples
are hanging out at Emma's house.
Emma was sort of like the ringleader
of my middle school friend group. And we're all hanging out watching Emma's house. Emma was sort of like the ringleader of my middle school friend group.
And we're all hanging out watching the movie Frozen,
as you do.
And then there's one point where Rachel gets up
and excuses herself to use the bathroom.
And at that moment, all the attention in the room
turns to me.
And Emma stands up, and she says,
David, have you had your first kiss yet? And I say, no. And she says,
oh, well Rachel hasn't had her first kiss yet. And she leaves for camp tomorrow for the rest of
the summer. And she said that she would like her first kiss to be with you. Wow. I mean,
I'm not even thinking about a kiss. This is crazy to me. And then Rachel just comes back in the room
and everyone goes back to normal.
And I'm just really in my head.
Like this is, I mean, I'm thinking,
wait, I do wanna have my first kiss with Rachel,
but this is so soon and an ultimatum on top of it.
But then as we're watching the movie,
people are sort of motioning, like,
David, maybe you should put your arm around her, make a first move on the way to your kiss later day.
And I'm sort of like still and stagnant.
But then the song let it go, comes on, and you know what I do, I let that arm go.
And I put it around Rachel, and she smiles and sort of snuggles up next to me, and it seems
like a good move.
And I'm like, okay, maybe I can do this kiss.
But then the movie ends.
And Rachel abruptly is like, OK, I have to go home.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm going to miss my opportunity.
But then I'm like, OK, I'll walk you to the train.
And I go and follow her to the door.
And everyone's just like, yes, go.
So Rachel and I are walking to the train.
And this is me agreeing to kiss her, I feel, in my head.
And everyone at the hangout agrees as well because my phone is ringing off the...
It's going crazy, people are texting me, make sure you put your hands on your hips when you kiss her.
Make sure you lean down because you're much taller than her.
And make sure you pick a side, pick a side to lean on.
So I'm just like, okay, bend down, you're taller, hands on hips, pick a side, pick a side to lean on. So I'm just like, okay, bend down, you're taller,
hands on hips, pick a side, pick a side.
And just like that, all of the lovely banter
that Rachel and I had before is kind of gone.
She's just kind of like walking
and I'm just in my head and not really saying a word.
And we get to the train station,
we walk down to the subway platform
and I'm just too nervous and she's waiting
there for me to do something and I can't and I just say bye and she says bye and she
swipes her metro card and the turn style divides us.
And I'm thinking like why do you let all those texts get in your head?
Like, this is actually something you want to do.
And then I look, and I see the train times, and I see I still have one more minute.
And something gets a hold of me.
So I take out my metro card.
And I go for a swipe, because love is worth wasting a metric card swipe.
And I go and I meet her on the platform and she just starts laughing, it's dark we
and I ask her, why are you laughing?
And she just says, oh, I laugh a lot when I get nervous.
And that makes me feel so much better because I'm really nervous as well.
And I ask her if she wants to have her first kiss with me.
And she says, yes.
And so I put my hands on her hips. I lean down
because I'm a lot taller than her. I pick a side, I pick the right side and as the train
is coming we place a little peck on the side of our lips and the wind from the train hits
us and it's magical and I'm really celebrating this, but I don't celebrate it with her.
After it happens, I run away, because there's
no like staring off longingly into our eyes, none of that.
No, I just leave the train station.
And I walk out from the subway platform.
And I'm just thinking about all the moments
I can have in my life that are so exciting
if I just put myself out there.
I went from someone who couldn't even admit
he had a crush on someone to asking a girl
to prom with my ukulele, having my first kiss,
and more important than that, establishing
a really special connection with someone I like.
And there were so many thoughts running through my head,
but one of them just kept sticking with me.
It was just this amazing thought.
I just kept thinking, I did it.
Thank you.
That was David Leppleston. Well, we asking every storyteller that appears on grown how the younger self would describe them now.
David said that he's not as good a guitar or basketball as he would have hoped, but he's a nice enough guy.
That's really sweet.
Also, if you're wondering what happened to David
and his crush, well, we asked him.
He said that he's still in touch with Rachel
and recently went with his current girlfriend
to meet with his old middle school friends
and Rachel was there and they really got along.
And if you wanna see a picture of David
at his under the sea prom, which I know you wanna see,
we'll have that slightly awkward picture
over at themof.org slashgrown.
We'll also have a bunch of other cool stuff
and ways to get in touch with us
and our social medias and all that jazz.
Up next, a story about parental expectations.
But first, Fanzo, I've just got to say something
about crushes.
I really love them.
It was like the only thing that got me to go to school.
That is an interesting way of looking at it.
You loved having crushes.
I loved having crushes.
You must have always gotten your crush then, I guess.
You were never crushed.
I was always crushed because they would change weekly.
They would change weekly.
I mean, I'm talking about when I was in second and third grade, not like last week.
That would be weird.
No, no, no.
Weird day.
No matter, I think we're all talking about
in the past tense.
Yeah, like the Kitty Crushes, you know.
I mean, yes, we have crushes now,
you know what I'm saying, shout out to Zendaya,
but Miss Crushes, I love having crushes.
Are these like Kitty Crushes or like, how like older Crushes like high school Crushes?
Did you enjoy those as much?
No, not even close because you know when you're a kid it's so innocent but as you get older
it's embarrassing to like someone and you're so awkward and it's like do they know, do they not know?
I definitely had a lot of crushes in high school.
None of them reciprocated.
Have you ever been ghosted?
Because that, I don't know, I could talk about that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the thing about being crushed.
Like you wanted to be the chaste, not the chaser.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you wanted to be a crusher, not the crush.
You're doing the crush.
And you know what I'm saying?
I was cast for the friendly ghost.
Are you proud of yourself for that?
Oh my God.
I wouldn't be proud of it.
It is what it is.
It was what it was.
Yeah, no, it's so normalized.
I guess.
Tell me, you've been ghosted before?
I was ghosted by this guy that I really, really liked.
And I thought it was going great.
And he ghosted me and I
spent that entire summer like staring at my last message to him hoping to see the three
bubbles pop up.
You know, like someone's texting back.
The bubbles.
The bubbles.
Like, oh my god, the hurt and the anxiety that that caused me.
And then I went to college and it was like, life goes on and I stopped like waiting for
the bubbles.
No, to this day, I still, no, just kidding.
But also when I was a kid, I couldn't,
even though my parents met in high school,
I wasn't allowed to date.
I had to hide it if I liked a boy, if I kissed a boy.
Like I wouldn't tell my mom, you know.
Speaking of dates, do you remember your first dinner date?
Not your first dinner date? Not your first dinner date, but your first dinner date in the lower east side
Yeah, I do remember fun. So let's talk about it
Forgive me for interrupting at such a dramatic moment
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interviews, audio diaries from young voices, and in-depth conversations between
our hosts, Alisa and Fanzo.
Grown is available wherever you get your podcasts.
You can visit groanpod.com to learn more, and we also have links in the show notes.
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