The Moth - Secondhand Embarrassment: The Moth Podcast

Episode Date: October 2, 2026

On this episode, we’re embracing the cringe with two stories that’ll you make you feel secondhand embarrassment. This episode was hosted by Emily Couch.Storytellers:Sarah Finucane posts a very unf...lattering photo to social media.Ceren Ege gives a pretty awful giftPodcast #1002

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Welcome to the Moth. I'm Emily Couch. There's a word in German called, and I'm going to do my best here, Fremn Shaman. It's literally translated as foreign shame, essentially that feeling you get when you cringe on someone else's behalf. Secondhand embarrassment, basically. We've all felt it, whether you've watched a friend get up on the dance floor and absolutely fail in their quest to boogie, you know, when they've chachad real ruff. Or whether you've heard a wedding speech from the maid of honor that gave away just a few
Starting point is 00:00:32 too many details about their bachelorette trip. There's a humor in it, yes, but also the realization that to be human is to be embarrassing. And pretty soon, you'll be the one out there with your metaphorical fly, metaphorically unzipped. So on this episode, we're embracing the cringe with two stories that I'll make you feel from Shaman. First up is Sarah Finnekin, who told this at a New York City Story Slam, where the theme was Comebacks.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Here's Sarah live with the mouth. I am going to tell you about a time that I did something so embarrassing that I should really never be able to show my face in public again. And for a little bit of context, it's important to know that I am Irish, which means I hate myself. Irish people, we like to have a sort of healthy dose of self-loathing. We're taught us at an early age, and especially about our bodies,
Starting point is 00:01:37 and especially as girls. We're told that our bodies are vessels with the potential for lust and sin, and so you'd be really careful about not falling into that temptation and becoming a whore. So, I've really tried to practice this separation between my body, my head and neck,
Starting point is 00:01:59 and the rest of everything down below, Even in childbirth, I was politely looking away. None of my business. So you can imagine my embarrassment when I accidentally posted a naked photo of myself on Facebook. It was a Saturday morning, like any other Saturday. And my daughter was playing on my bed with my phone, and I came out of my shower, I had my towel,
Starting point is 00:02:40 and I sat next to her, and she was taking pictures of herself, taking selfies with filters, and we started doing it together. I'm a cash. I'm a dog. How cute. And then my towel sort of slipped off, and I got this eye full of my naked body
Starting point is 00:02:57 through the camera lens, and it was absolutely horrific. And I thought, how hilarious to take the world's worst naked picture and send it to my husband, who is sitting there. And so I, of course, I don't change my pose, and I am in the worst position. Like my shoulders are kind of hunched over,
Starting point is 00:03:20 my breasts are, like, dropping away. I have, like, that full melted candle body happening. My unpruned shrubbery is in full focus. I my crowning glory of the two white thighs laid out
Starting point is 00:03:44 in a kind of V like a cadaver about to get an internal exam and I take the picture and I slap a pair of kitty paws on as my daughter had just taught me pointing out my hoo-ha and I sexed it to my husband
Starting point is 00:04:02 saying don't you want some of this And I watch As he gets a notification And he opens it up and he's like, Oh, what am I looking at here? And he's kind of quizzical. And then he realizes and he screams And he throws his phone in the air
Starting point is 00:04:21 Like he's been scalded. And I laugh and I laugh. 20 hours later. It's a Sunday morning and I wake early And I reach my phone out for I reached my handout for my phone. And on there is a message on Facebook from a guy I went to college with 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And it says, hey, Sarah, I'm wondering if you're feeling okay. So I feel a little nervous. There is a picture on your page that you may not intend to have there. And I jump out of the bed. and I quickly go to Facebook and you know that story part, that top?
Starting point is 00:05:12 There's this little circle and in that little circle is my bush. And I click on that and there I am. I've been up for at least 20 hours, no likes. And I think, oh my God, I'm going to die. I am literally just going to drop dead.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I start feeling like I can't breathe. My husband, he's just sleeping peacefully. No idea that I've just broken the internet. And I am thinking, oh, this is actually the next natural step. I'm just going to die of shame. And then I think that's actually really poetic for an Irish person to die of shame. And I start to think about what can I do to fix it? and maybe I could put up pictures of myself on a bender or something to explain this.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And then I start thinking about all the consequences. And here's where I should probably tell you, I'm a public high school teacher. And I have many former students on my page. And so I'm just standing there thinking, oh, Jesus Christ, I am going to get into the paper. I'm going to get a call from the superintendent. And then I think, oh, sweet God, I'm probably going to have to do one of those assemblies
Starting point is 00:06:50 with the school about the danger of sexting. And I kind of stand in that same position. Nothing happens. Then my daughter wakes up. The day sort of begins, and I start to call friends, and I tell them, and people see the picture and laugh because I forgot to take it down.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And I just moved through the day, and I don't get a call from anybody, no journalists at the door, my mother didn't fly over from Ireland. And I start to think, oh my God, I think I'm actually going to survive this. And the more that I think about it, the funnier it gets.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And when I'm telling my neighbor, she says, you should just put that photo on your Facebook feed and just put like, hashtag feminist gold, hashtag naked, not afraid. And by the end of the day, I cannot believe that I am still standing and that I have survived this. And then I kind of think, you know, this is like flood therapy for me. And, you know, who am I?
Starting point is 00:07:58 I'm so inconsequential, especially thinking about the stories we heard tonight. It's just me and my bush. Yeah, there's this like picture of me, a bad one, out there on the internet forever. But, you know, I am just a tiny speck on the planet. and the planish is just a tiny speck in the universe. Shit happens. Move on. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:08:27 That was Sarah Finlay. Sarah grew up in Ireland and has lived in New York City for 30 years, 25 of which she is spent in Brooklyn teaching high school English. She lives with a chef, an actor, and a yappy little dog. We asked Sarah what she thought of the story and the incident now, and she told us that she often lies awake in bed and runs the most mundane, embarrassing moments of her day. day over and over, but she's managed to completely release this one into the universe.
Starting point is 00:08:53 She thinks it's because of the scale of it. She thought that she would die of shame, but she actually thinks it helped her remember just how small and insignificant we are. I think teenagehood is basically just six years of living in a constant state of humiliation. Like most teens, I was embarrassed by everything, especially the existence of my parents, such as when my mom picked me up from my sophomore year, homecoming dance. I already had a bruise. ego from the night. All of my friends had been invited to an after-party, and I wasn't. So I was feeling low. Then my mom arrived at the school, and as I approached her car, she somehow managed to hit the gas and slam into a car belonging to one of my classmates. I was horrified. I stood there with my
Starting point is 00:09:35 mouth agape while my mother clearly embarrassed herself, climbed out of the car to apologize, swap insurance info with a teenager, et cetera, et cetera, only to reveal that she was in her pajamas and slippers. And that was it for me. Hoping no one had made the connection between me and the terrible driver and the fuzzy footwear, I just left, face red, crying, and tottering my way home on five-inch heels. I still feel bad for leaving her, and she still feels bad for humiliating me, but we can cringe and laugh about it together now. After the break, a story about giving and getting gifts. Back in a moment. Welcome back. Our next story is from Jaron Ega, who told it at a Boston Story Slam.
Starting point is 00:10:17 where the theme was awards. Here's Jaron, live at the month. Gift giving, for whatever reason, never went smoothly in my family. We even dangled the award of the worst gift giver each year. As a couple examples, when I was 10 and my sister turned 14,
Starting point is 00:10:38 I went to the dollar store with my mom and picked out this yellow sand-filled hourglass and gave it to my sister and said some poetic words about how I was giving her the gift of time. and she later dropped this heavy hourglass on her foot and broke a toe. For one of my dad's birthdays, my mom took my dad to a fancy seafood restaurant, and that's when he discovered he had newly developed an allergy to shrimp.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Because birthdays and holidays started to become more of health hazards rather than celebrations, my mom conceded to saying that our love was enough for her. and my dad, once he was diagnosed with terminal cancer, just started to answer that time would be enough for him. I would tell him I already tried getting that for my sister, and it did not go well. Because of the terrible gift-giving history in my family, I decided for Mother's Day in 2018,
Starting point is 00:11:39 which was the first Mother's Day after we had lost my father, I was going to turn our family's fate. At the time I was enrolled in this printmaking case, class at school, and we had just learned the process of photo emulsion, which allowed you to perfectly recreate a photo onto the print using tiny black dots, or a different color. And I decided that I was going to gift my mother a print of her favorite photo of our family, which was the four of us in front of the steps of the first home that my parents had ever bought in the States in St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:12:11 For the second layer, I put a gold butterfly where I centered the abdomen of the butterfly over my father so that it looked like the wings were illuminating and protecting over our family. Now the real kicker was going to be the third layer of the print. Back in high school, when my dad found out that I enjoyed poetry, he had grabbed his wallet and taken out a piece of paper and gifted it to me. In it was a handwritten poem that he said was back from his college years. It read, to look into your eyes is to stand deep in the forest surrounded by peaceful silence
Starting point is 00:12:48 shadows and sunlight and joy so I remembered this poem and I was like this is it I'm going to print the words of this poem around the butterfly and the words are romantic and I don't think my mom knows this poem exists
Starting point is 00:13:03 and it'll be perfect best Mother's Day gift ever I even told my sister not to try getting a gift that year because mine was going to be that good So it's May 13th, 2018, and I eagerly hand my mother the wrapped print. She grabs it, unwraps it, smiles at the photo of the four of us, registers her fingerprints into the gold, and then pauses at the black words.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Is this your poem, she asks me? And I'm so excited to tell her. Bubba gave me a poem back when I was in high school. It was a poem he wrote from college. and I await her waterworks, but instead her expression flattens, and without looking up, she goes, that's not your father's handwriting. I let out a nervous smile, just like that one. And I go, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yes, it is. He wrote this. And she goes, no, it's not. And I get defensive, and I find an old notebook of his, and I open it next to the print. And the longer I look at the letters, the less they look like one another. And at this moment, my mother proceeds to tell me very important information that when my father was in undergrad, he went to Germany, where he took poetry classes and had an American girlfriend. And up until this point, I had not considered why my father, who was a Turkish man and went to college in Turkey, would have written a poem in English. And before I can process the plausibility or pain of the fact that my father would have gifted me a poem either he wrote to his ex or a poem written to him by his ex, I realize that I have just gifted my grieving mother, a print with the romantic words of her late husband's ex, circling over her.
Starting point is 00:15:12 favorite photo of our family. Me too. So at this point I turned to go dig my own grave and my mom grabs my hands, pulls her heart into mine and thanks me for the print. Sometimes I think about how I gifted my sister an hourglass long before I knew time would be so valuable to our family, wishing that I could have gifted time instead to my mother to spend with my father or wishing I could have gifted it to myself that day to go make a new print. Although I will never know who actually wrote that poem, one thing is for certain.
Starting point is 00:15:56 As of May 2018, I am the worst gift giver of our family. Thank you. That was Jaron Ego. Jaron is a Turkish-American writer and lawyer currently living in New York City, playing around with new creative pursuits as time allows, hosting her work online in hopes to connect
Starting point is 00:16:22 with other artists. Jaron tells us that, despite the mysterious source of the poem, she still loves catching a glance of that print when she's home sitting in her family library. To her delight, her mom put it somewhere visible, and you see it shimmer when the sun is just about to retire from the day. She's grateful to this mystery for teaching her to be more okay with the unknown. We'll have a photo of the poem on our website, the moth.org slash extras. That brings us to the end of our episode.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Thanks so much for listening. from all of us here with the Moth, we hope all your embarrassments are either easily forgotten or make for great stories. Emily Couch is a producer on the Moth's artistic team. She loves to work behind the scenes to spread the beauty of true personal stories to listeners around the world.
Starting point is 00:17:09 This episode of the Moth podcast was produced by Sarah Austin-Jonesse, Sarah Jane Johnson, and me, Mark Salinger. The rest of the Maw's leadership team includes Gina Duncan, Marina Cluchet, Jennifer Hickson, Jordan Cardinali, Caledonia Cairns, Kate Tellers, Suzanne Rust, and Patricia Orenia. The Moth podcast is presented by Odyssey. Special thanks to their executive producer, Leah Reese Dennis.
Starting point is 00:17:35 All Moth stories are true, as remembered by their storytellers. For more about our podcast, information on pitching your own story, and everything else, go to our website, the moth.org.

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