The Nateland Podcast - 167: #167 Geniuses (Rocky) ft. Mike Vecchione

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

This week, Nate and Dusty are both missing so Brian and Aaron are joined by Nateland favorite Mike Vechionne to form the BAM. The guys talk about geniuses a little but also discuss cold showers, Shaws...hank Redemption characters, and rank the Rocky movies.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If it's a flat or a squeal, a wobble or peel, your tread's worn down or you need a new wheel, wherever you go, you can get a pro at Tread Experts. Until December 8th, get $70 on a Bridgestone prepaid MasterCard when you buy four eligible Bridgestone tires, or up to $120 with Blizzac or Weatherpeak tires. Find a Bridgestone Tread Experts dealer near you at treadexperts.ca slash locations. From tires to auto repair, we're always there at treadexperts.ca slash locations. Today's episode of the Nate Land podcast is brought to you by our good friends at Babbel, Mint Mobile, HelloFresh, and AG1. one. Hello, folks. Aaron Weber here running the ship today with Brian Bates by my side and across the table in Nate's seat is our old friend, Mike Vecchione. Mike, how you doing? Thank you guys for having me. Absolutely. Thank you for eliminating Nate in order to the table in nate's seat is our old friend mike vecchio and mike how you doing
Starting point is 00:01:05 thank you guys for having me absolutely thank you for eliminating nate in order to get me in that's the only way we could get you in we saw your list of demands you said i'm not coming back with nate well more than that we also had to get rid of dusty yeah that's right well i think dusty's gone for good now right yeah he's going for good we had is he yeah we had some irreconcilable differences yeah some creative differences okay that we won't talk about on this episode right he's gone i wish him good luck in his career wish him good luck with his family but i will never talk to dusty yeah i don't even wish that i don't wish that on him i deleted his number from my phone yeah so wow
Starting point is 00:01:40 some people think it's. Yeah. Folk mafia war that's happening. It's the first time. McCoy's. Two members of the band. Yeah. Here, I believe.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I know. Do you feel the weight on your shoulders to carry this episode, Brian? This is your, this is your moment. This is Tom Brady getting called in. Yeah. So it gets hurt. That's it. You could become the goat after this episode.
Starting point is 00:02:03 That's what it takes. I mean, I thought I already was. You could become the goat after this episode. That's what it takes. I thought I already was. You thought that? Well, it's good to be here, Mike. I think this is Mike's first time on the episode since the special came out. Is that correct? Yeah. No, I was on another one plugging the special.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Oh, right. I came to plug the special. Well, this is the first episode post plug. Post plug. Yeah. So if you haven't seen it yet, first of all, get out from under the rock you've been living in. Yes. Check out the attractives on the Nate land YouTube page.
Starting point is 00:02:34 1.4 million views, man. 1.4 million. That's bad. Yeah, we're doing good. We're doing really good. It's amazing, man. So thank you guys for watching and please continue to watch and share. That's amazing, man. So thank you guys for watching. And please continue to watch and share. That's the good thing about YouTube.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Yeah, Joe Zimmerman came out this week. 1.5 million. Two days ago. I got Zimmerman. Zimmerman just comes in with all his bird watching jokes and just blows us out of the water. It's not fair. Yeah. Well, you were always the first. We can always say that. out of the water. It's not fair. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you were always the first.
Starting point is 00:03:06 We can always say that. I was the first. If Nate Land becomes like Disney, you'll be the very first. Yeah. I'll be the guy in the documentary. Yeah. Recalling everything.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I'll blow everybody's spot up, as they say today. I'm trying to use hip terms. I'll blow up everybody's spot, and I'll just i'll say all the things that were happening behind the scenes you'll be like jordan though when he went with nike nike was nothing yeah and and jordan was the greatest but like i'm gonna take a chance on this kid like you did with nate yeah i like how everything's a documentary now it's like it's
Starting point is 00:03:39 like jordan took a chance on a brand it's like that is that a story? It's a movie, too. It's not even a documentary. That's the movie. Yeah. Air. It's just crazy. It's crazy how everything, is everything a documentary now? Is a tweet a documentary?
Starting point is 00:03:53 What would you rather it be? Everything be a book? No, not everything has to be something. How about that? How about we just leave stuff alone? God forbid people want to tell their story. No, wait, she went pretty hard at it. I'm sorry. I want to turn this from a nice hill folk,
Starting point is 00:04:06 kicking back, straw in the mouth type of podcast to confrontation. No, Bates. You said it. What did you mean? Mike had a podcast. It recently ended. It recently ended.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I ended, you know. What happened? Did you end on good terms or was it forced out? I was the only person. It was too controversial. I was the forced out? I was the only person. It was a podcast suicide. I was the only person on it, so I ended it right in front of everybody. And no, yeah, it wasn't doing well enough. As a shame that I have to admit that it was fun. I enjoyed doing it, but it wasn't doing well enough with the numbers.
Starting point is 00:04:50 So I had some hard numbers. The hard numbers were when I went under a thousand YouTube views. Yeah, it was like, OK, what? Who am I even doing this for besides the people in the booth at this point? But it was a good idea for a show it was an investigative show but um i don't know i i the people didn't want it so i have to figure something else out i listened yeah thank you you're one of those thousands sometimes things are just ahead it was more on the back and it was more uh more than a thousand it was just a thousand on youtube that's the ones that i could see right
Starting point is 00:05:23 but i got the numbers every month but it just wasn wasn't enough. It's not enough to grow. You know, we're all on the road trying to sell tickets. Right. It wasn't enough. To justify you. Yeah. To justify selling tickets at some point. And, uh, everybody's got their Achilles heel and mine is just not quitting anything and just keep going at it and just keep coming, keep coming, keep coming. And it's like, that's not the way, as I've learned by reading books and documentaries, that's not the way successful people function. It's like, no, you don't do that. You stop and you pivot and you go in another direction. You don't just keep. I locked myself out of my apartment when I was in Philly years ago
Starting point is 00:06:00 and I got frustrated. So I just ran into the door. I just kept running into the door until my head was bloody. Instead of looking for a window. So that's the mentality that we're dealing with, but I'm trying to change. You're trying to pivot. I'm trying to pivot into something more successful and not just keep running
Starting point is 00:06:20 into the locked door. Trying to find the window. God opens doors. One door closes, another door opens. Another one, windows involved. A window also opens. Should we hop into these comments, Brian? Well, I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:06:33 so we were just, this comes out next week, so you were just in Huntsville, I believe. Yes. Sold every show out. Sold it all out. Loved it.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I love the South. And I chose to drive. I flew nashville drove to hunt that's the way to do it's a beautiful drive yeah nashville to huntsville yeah it really is nice what's the highlight the rocket that just got dismantled they took down that rocket yeah oh then yeah you should have flown yeah why did they take that rocket now i don't even know but i just saw on the news where they took it down like last week yeah did you know i know your entire it's a space huntsville's a space yeah i know you love trash and where we're from and our families and everything now i love it we
Starting point is 00:07:15 have science down here yes you guys don't actually believe in it but you have it the people at this table do this is the science episode but one of the uh sort of the landmarks making that drive down the huntsville is at a rest stop as soon as you enter alabama there is a a replica of a saturn 5 rocket wow and i don't think it's actual the actual size of one i think it's a little bit smaller somebody told me but it's huge and you just see it you're like i'm driving through rural alabama yeah shacks on the side of the road i love that and then well now you're being a little derogatory toward the south well don't you love the contrast you think shack is a derogatory term i think it's someone living in a shack yeah i do that means living in your car that's true
Starting point is 00:08:02 yeah you know what i mean i didn't call them shanties. Yeah. Brick homes. I think they're... Oh, yeah. Sorry. You drive past some manors on the side of the road, and then you'll see a NASA rocket. Well, that's a shame they took that down.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Yeah. I don't know why, but they took it down. So you missed that. That's why you don't even know about it. Why did they take down the NASA rocket? Yeah. I don't... No one knows? Aaron's going to get the problem. That's why you don't even know about it. Why did they take down the NASA rocket? Yeah, I don't. No one knows?
Starting point is 00:08:28 Aaron's going to get the part. It's a mystery. I haven't made that drive in a while, to be honest with you. Wow. It's time to go. Too good for Huntsville. It's time for it to go, the tourism director says. Yeah. It has greeted people arriving to Alabama from Tennessee on I-65 for more than four decades.
Starting point is 00:08:44 The state's tourism director. The fact that it's been up there for so many years is pretty amazing, he says. But he's taking it down. He said it's starting to fall apart. They've gotten complaints for years about it. That's another example of not to keep doing the same thing, but to pivot a little bit in order to be successful. Pivot away from space, away from NASA.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Let's put something else up. What do you think would embody the state of Alabama?ama what should we erect at a rest stop in alabama to let people know hey you're here um two cousins or just friends i'm trying to think i'm trying to think I'm trying to think all things Alabama I was going to say like a Nick Saban statue
Starting point is 00:09:29 yeah Nick Saban roll tide yeah to take it down clean it up and put it back up it's a million dollars oh my god
Starting point is 00:09:37 that's a lot of money you gotta take that especially in Alabama that's a lot of money cost of living is very low in Alabama tell me I'm wrong. I don't know the numbers, but I did just call their house a shacks.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And I'm sorry about that. You're from there. But I'm saying that particular stretch where you're approaching the rocket, you look out to the right and you think, that's what I think of when I think of Alabama. You know, the caricature of the South. There's a little bit of that leading up to that rocket. If you live in Giles County, um, Pulaski area, just know that was Aaron saying that. Oh, Aaron, you're from Alabama. I grew up there.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Okay. Well, I was in, uh, that's your pride and joy then. It is. I'm proud of Alabama. I'm proud of what we've done. Okay. So you can call them shacks if you want to. That's your, that's your family. That's your pride and joy then. It is. I'm proud of Alabama. I'm proud of what we've done. Okay. So you can call them shacks if you want to. That's your family.
Starting point is 00:10:29 That's your people. They're my people. Yeah. For sure. So I can say whatever I want about them. Yeah. But you've been gone for 20 years? No, not quite 20.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Okay. I've been gone. I've almost lived here as long as I've lived in Alabama. So there's a cutoff where you no longer can do that. There is a certain point where, yeah, I think I say I'mennessee now i'm not from alabama anymore i bet you do say you're from tennessee depends on who i'm talking to tennessee does sound a little better in some but brian seems like you're trying to get the hill folk angry at him i'm trying to i'm trying to defend them yeah okay but well um i was in jasper indiana this weekend okay doing the theater there yep how'd
Starting point is 00:11:08 that go sold it out sold it out standing ovation awesome uh did four hours yeah four hours they wanted more but yeah like sorry guys you said sorry guys i gotta go they need to close down the building and you played for uh let's see who you got here. And you lost a fly ball, apparently, because you didn't put your glasses on in the sun. Who is that? This is the San Antonio Missions. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:36 They're a Padres affiliate in San Antonio. A semi-pro? Well, no, they're professional. They're minor league. Minor league. Oh, minor league professional like a triple a so i'm not catholic but before you become a padre you have to go do mission work no boom that's pretty good padre does mean father that's pretty good i was uh i was with
Starting point is 00:11:59 kathleen madigan this weekend wow did some shows eau claire wisconsin madison wisconsin chicago illinois how'd they go they were i mean i got a standing o i did four hours opening forgetfully she was pretty upset about it but what's the longest set you've ever done mike um i think on my special i did like 80 minutes or something it was edited down yeah i just wanted to make sure i had you know i was always of the opinion like shoot long and then edit it down which actually in retrospect is a mistake it's like why is that because if you have the concise bits the way that you want them and you just execute them the right way it saves you a lot
Starting point is 00:12:40 of time editing oh interesting yeah instead of just like oh let me just shoot everything and then cut it down and post you know yeah but you didn't have to do the editing no i did have to do the editing you did yeah you have to do it because you can't rely on someone else doing it because then you will be like yeah that's not right yeah well you were given the notes for editing you weren't dragging i have my friend helped me and we went through the special four times so we had to go through it and then and then sent the notes and they did the actual editing but You weren't dragging the mouse. I have my friend help me, and we went through the special four times. So we had to go through it and then sent the notes. And they did the actual editing, but you have to make the calls on the-
Starting point is 00:13:11 Right. What stays in and what doesn't. Yeah, what stays in and what goes out and where to cut what and the time codes, basically. Yeah. What about you, Brian? You don't- 30? What's your longest?
Starting point is 00:13:22 Tight 25. It's a big milestone man doing 25 um you do it when you do headlining this club you're doing an hour about an hour it depends on who's opening for me yeah um yeah you know if some of these clubs they'll do guest spots yeah you know is the first 10 minutes you chastising the opener in front of the crowd you don't do that on my show you understand me get out you make it nice and awkward and they go all right guys who's here for some fun yeah you go well now i gotta do an hour because this guy yeah couldn't do his time yeah couldn't do 25 i usually do 50 yeah uh but sometimes i do do it an hour i think the most i ever done was one of those broken record shows in in nashville yeah and i maybe did it an hour i think the most i ever done was on those broken record shows
Starting point is 00:14:05 in in nashville yeah and i maybe did like an hour 20 oh man and that was when i did not have what was that like 4 a.m 5 a.m i don't remember what time it was but we did a 10-day continuous show in nashville oh wow 24 hours a day for 10 days we did something like that the comic strip years ago we set like uh went for the guinness we know the guinness people were there yeah yeah and it was a non-stop show how long is it you remember i can't just accept your story and go that was amazing i had to counter it with my own thing actually we did that we did that but but better that's okay we did it a bigger version of that in new york you guys don't have much comedy wise so you have to throw out a world record it's the only thing we have yeah we did a world record and um yeah so it was a i don't know
Starting point is 00:14:50 if it was i don't know if it was 10 i can't i actually can't remember how long it was but it was a continuous show the nashville broke the record at the time and then we broke it ourselves a few times i think yeah yeah yeah chad riding and those guys got that set up. So that was fun. But you would do these long sets in the middle of the night or like 10 a.m. Were there people in the crowd? There had to be at least 10 in the crowd for Guinness to recognize it. Oh, wow. So 10 people had to be in the audience. Yeah, we did it legal.
Starting point is 00:15:18 It sounds like you just... So Brian didn't know how to handle that size audience. 10 people overwhelms Bates. It's like, ten people? Oh, let's stretch out a little bit. Time to get loose. I like it if there is nine people in the crowd at one time, and then the thing is not valid.
Starting point is 00:15:40 So the one guy goes outside and just puts a bee on his chin to try to do a new record of all the beard of bees. What? Isn't that a world record also? I remember I used to have the old Guinness book. Yeah, he's just like, I'm just going to pivot. Yeah, I'm going to pivot and start a new thing. Like we failed with the comedy thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And now I'm going to do the beard of bees yeah this man had bees on his face for longer than anyone else on record that seems like an alabama thing maybe they should replace the um maybe they should replace the rocket with the beard of bees guy i bet you he how much do you want to bet he's from alabama he's toronto you want to put money thank you very much oh man canada you guys should have bet me the opposite god i'm a degenerate gambler i'll bet on anything are you gambling a lot no i'm putting the money draft kings i wouldn't even bet on football i'll just bet on stuff like this like crazy facts that are easily checked you bet i'll go bearded bees guys is from alabama you're like it's isn't killer bees the comic isn't he from alabama he's from al. Ah, I knew something was there. I knew it was.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I was close. You're right. You're right. What were we talking about? I don't even know. I don't know. World Records. We were talking about World Records. Longest set. Yeah. Longest one person set. Didn't Dane Cook have it at one point? Yeah, Dane Cook did. 10 hours? I think Aaron burke set the record for most sets in a night right i think he did a documentary on that yeah it was like 50 why does everything have to be a documentary just answer the question you put it back on me i like that i like that he's your friend right god he is my friend i like it okay but you guys you guys i
Starting point is 00:17:22 like you're like go watch the documentary i like the contentious i like the contentious nature of this now yeah you know usually when i'm on here it's just a very freewheeling it's you know but i like the um attack mode that you guys are right well nate's gone we could be ourselves a little bit yeah i gotta tell you somebody dm me and said and they counted how many times i stacked my papers during an episode. Wow. And they said they're going to do that from now on until I stop doing it. And I think I've already done it four or five times this episode. Your dad doesn't just call you? He DMs me trash talking. I'm sorry.'re from alabama you don't have a dad
Starting point is 00:18:07 just as jokes come on come on these are jokes well let's get into these do you have a dad here sorry i do have a dad okay good so it wasn't it's not like not anymore he died but. But I'm just kidding. Beer to bees. Try to set the record. His dad died of a bee sting. We've got an unbelievable collection of comments here that we're going to read through compiled and read by Brian Bates. Oh, okay. A guy who doesn't stack his papers. I'll read them if you want me to.
Starting point is 00:18:39 But I'm saying you're the one that put this list together. Yeah. Everyone likes to point that out now that everyone's turning on me on the comments. I don't think we're turning on you. Hey, two turns on you. Last week now everyone's turning on me on the on the comments i don't think we're turning on you two turns on you last week everyone everyone i got your back dude well we recorded yesterday yeah you were downstairs you could yeah i would have come up here yeah i would have come up here and i would love if i was if i was invited but i was downstairs and holding that's what they call downstairs i know uh yeah so i'll put these
Starting point is 00:19:05 together to see how they go these comments come from twitter instagram youtube apple podcast reviews and if you're old-fashioned and you want to send one via email via via via via nateland at natebargetzi.com first comment comes from justin anderson've done it. I've done it 12 times already. That's OK. Don't let these guys get in your head, you know. But doesn't this feel there's it does feel good. Yeah. Tell him you're going to do it more now that he pointed it out. Now you're going to keep him busy since obviously he doesn't have a job. Right. Yeah, exactly. Justin Anderson. I am 44 and about a year into comedy. So I'm on the Brian Bates plan. Anderson, I am 44 and about a year into comedy, so I'm on the Brian Bates plan.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I love this already. Who is this punk going after you, Bates? Justin Anderson. What advice would you give someone who wants to change careers into comedy in middle age? Look at this. Low expectations. Lower the bar in your head. Yeah, I think that helps.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Now, when did you start? How old were you, Brian? I was 35 when I first started. Oh, so this guy's ancient yeah i was when you started i was 43 when i quit my day job wow did you start the normal i started at 28 so i started later late for comedy that is late started late because i was already a teacher you're 50 i'm 50 now yeah you're 50 now yeah i have a breathing problem that's what happens when you're 50 well you automatically have asthma or if you're 30 and overweight like me i don't know i guess i would just say enjoy the ride when did everybody start you started at 35 i started at 28 23
Starting point is 00:20:37 oh wow you started young yeah okay right age yeah you started well but the the right age for to develop the skill set true but it's like you really have nothing to talk about when you're that young you know what i mean like you have more to talk about when you're older i feel like i still don't and some well it doesn't seem to matter now anybody could talk about anything just put it on tiktok and you're a genius i guess sorry bitterness that happens when you're in comedy for 23 years. Get ready to think that about a lot of things, Justin. Justin, you're going to complain about TikTok a bunch. You know, Justin, I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:11 Leigh-Anne Morgan was in her mid-50s when she blew up. Now she's selling out theaters. Yeah, you never know. I mean, music, there does seem like there is a plateau where you're not going to probably make it. I don't know why. It's not necessarily fair. Wouldn't you agree? Whereas in comedy, to probably make it i don't know why it's not it's not fair but don't when you agree whereas in comedy you could make it you could or comedians making it is a is a relative term well that's true so um yeah but it depends on this guy's
Starting point is 00:21:36 life situation it's like that's what i always think about it's like do you have a wife and kids you have people depending on you for an income that also matters a great deal because if you have people depending on you for an income you That also matters a great deal. Because if you have people depending on you for an income, you're not going to want to quit your job. Right. You know, your kids are starving, but you're out living your dream. Yeah. I quit my job at 43. I was single.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I'm like, if I starve, I'm only hurting myself. Yes. Right. Yeah. So, I mean, you just, we all kind of do this on a sliding scale it's like you you have a at least a part-time job to make your bills and you do this when you can do it until you can make some money and that and then it flips and you do it more and more and more and more until eventually you make the money that you would make if you had a day job yeah i mean it's just logical that's if you're in your 44 i'm assuming that you
Starting point is 00:22:22 have people depending on you i don't know he's on the brian bates plan so if he takes that literal maybe not maybe a single he'll get married in six years yeah then you could do whatever you want but i assume that you're an incel and that you're um you hate the government and you're you're doing anti-government hate comedy i think i think the difference is musicians are, comedians are not sex symbols. Right. In the way that musicians are. Right. Right?
Starting point is 00:22:51 Speak for yourself. So you can't. But I'll give some practical advice. Justin, you're a year into comedy. You already know this. You're going to be the old guy at these open mics and stuff. Yeah. Which I am now.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I'm at open mics and stuff around Nashville. And I look around. Yeah. I'm one of the oldest dudes here yeah at 31 so i just that's gotta be tough yeah it was hard when i first started i'm in my mid to late 30s and all the guys are like 22 right and stuff like that but um you just gotta get through that aaron what you should do is um when you're the oldest guy at the open mic, I want to start doing this. I would stop focusing on my own career. You obviously have a good career,
Starting point is 00:23:30 but I would stop focusing on my own career. And I would look at people who are emerging and have something, not necessarily the most talented, but just have one thing that stands out because that's going to matter more. And I would do a, wouldn't adopt them, but I do a conservatorship with them and control all of their finances. Blindside them.
Starting point is 00:23:51 That's it. Blindside all of them. And then have all of these kids under conservatorship. And then if anybody pops, you benefit. Tanner Newcomb, just take him on your own. Right. Become an incubator for these young comedians. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And then I get 10% to 20% them on your own. Right. Become an incubator for these young comedians. And then I get 10 to 20% of their potential earnings. That's one way to do it. Justin, that's one way to do it at 44. That's the way I would do it. Conservatorships around the board. Right. We wish you luck, man. Hope to see you out there
Starting point is 00:24:19 in the comedy world. It's a pretty small world. We probably will cross paths. If you stick around, I'm going to meet you at some point. in the comedy world. It's a pretty small world. We probably will cross paths. Well, if you stick around, if you stick around, I'm going to meet you at some point. Next comment is from Val Lafavor. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Lafavor. I would say yes. That sounds like a fake name. It does. It sounds like from an Adam Sandler movie. That's what a Val Lafavor. Is that a Rob Schneider character who is this wondering if you ever get homesick when you're on the comedy road seems like you all often travel with a friend and even sometimes nate will mention that his family is along with him
Starting point is 00:24:57 does traveling with friends and or family help you to avoid feeling homesick you generally want to well takeout friend with you on the road i try to bring a friend when i can and that just makes everything better too yeah i don't i like to be alone do you really really you like to be alone well now you've got now you've got a young baby you've got a wife yeah but do you bring the baby to open just he does 15 it's like it's just mostly crying and going to the bathroom but you're like no that's his he has the freedom to express it so that's his act it's a she thank you very much like women can't do comedy no i think gender is uh wrong to mention they yeah the baby they will um the baby
Starting point is 00:25:41 is actually an artist the baby actually sells more tickets than all of us combined but um the baby is actually an artist the baby actually sells more tickets than all of us combined but um the baby like you'd be like the baby's opening they're like the baby is here yeah and it's just your baby yeah crying um and then brian has to do an hour 20 minutes for a baby crowd and then afterwards like i had to go clean up your mess literally and figuratively. Um, I think that's pretty awesome. Do you like taking friends on the road? Um, yes, I'll take people. Cause I don't have a car in New York, so I need to get places. But I, instead of like renting a car, which I could do, I always ask whatever, whoever
Starting point is 00:26:23 booked me, if it's within driving distance like let me bring an opener or bring the show so that i could hook people up with work you know sounds like but you're hooking yourself up with a car hooking myself up with a car yeah bates thanks for cutting to it but also i need the car but then i want to get people you know who have a car who want work i want them also to work yeah you know so and also uh so just if you live in new york city get a car it's important well no it's parking is insane in in manhattan but um oh you mean to open for yeah for me yeah yeah um yes if you're like justin anderson and you're 44 and you're a year into comedy, um, Val,
Starting point is 00:27:07 she says the comedy, the comedy road. First of all, Val, we don't call it the comedy road. It's just the road. Do we ever get homesick? What are we? Children? Val? No, we don't get homesick.
Starting point is 00:27:23 We make money and we party i love this let's trash every comment you start off by saying that's a well-written comment hey val can i get a second with you what the heck is this the comedy road val do yourself a favor stop it with the nonsense value tough love and all the comments uh it's the best bringing people on the road is it a wonder that my podcast shut down because that's what your podcast was closed it was just me screaming at the fans until you eliminated no one likes that actually everybody actually hates that you named them person by person just called them stupid yeah i like to sit in a dark room and stare at the wall do you actually no i mean i not that literal but i do like some alone you like yeah real alone you like to go on
Starting point is 00:28:11 a walk alone just around like yeah around around the hotel parking lot or i mean i told you the one time go to the mall i usually just you and i had co-headlined wise guys together less than a year later i was back there. I was at the same hotel. Everything was the same, except you weren't there. And I missed you because it felt like, where's my buddy Aaron? But generally, if I go to some new place, I meet new comics. I just like that.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Get to know new people and new experience. Okay. The Friday or Thursday is the travel day. So we won't count that. But then the next day, let's say you don't have any radio in the morning to plug the shows, which is also something we do on the comedy road. But it's just like a Saturday. You have two shows.
Starting point is 00:28:56 You get up and do what? I sleep late. Okay. What is late for you? Because of the baby. With a young baby. What's sleeping late for you? Late for me is noon. Aaron baby. With a young baby. What's sleeping late for you? Late for me is noon or late.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Aaron, you said a young baby. With a young, tiny baby. Tiny little guy? I would be the one person having an old baby. Just somehow. That's offensive. He has the Benjamin buttons. The baby is aging in reverse.
Starting point is 00:29:21 You're like Gary Coleman? What do you mean? Like an old kid? I don't know. Somehow I would have an old baby. No, not noon, but I might sleep till 10-ish and then lay in the bed for an hour looking at my phone. Okay. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:29:33 And that feels like indulgent for you. Yeah. To lay. Just nice and quiet. Nobody doing anything or whatever. That's a strip club to us. Sleeping in till 10. No, just like looking on your phone and that's that's my strip club
Starting point is 00:29:46 right there um go ahead so you look at your phone then what now that it's football season i might i mean i would turn on the tv and look up you don't even get out of bed no just sit there and watch football and wow well i mean i might go down get some breakfast yeah eat or whatever come back up watch football i mean it depends on what city I'm in. Oh, that is a good feeling. You catch the end of a continental breakfast, bring a plate up to the hotel room. That's a good time. There's some time for college game day to start.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Maybe not start, but at least see the picks. If you're on the West Coast, football games start at like 9am. This is an all-day affair. Yeah, that's true. You raise a great point, man. Catching the end of a continental breakfast is like a win. That's a big win on the comedy road. Because they're about to throw all this food away.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And the food was never- It's been out for six hours. It was never good in the first place. Right. But you're making a great point. It's been out for six hours. They're about to throw it in the trash. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I'll eat it. You save it. Get that blueberry muffin. You bring it back to the room. You watch three, four hours of football. Then what? Take a nap. You take a nap? Okay. I mean, okay i mean i don't know no no this is great i'm not judging it this is a saturday yeah this is okay okay yeah we didn't even cover friday yeah well it's one of
Starting point is 00:30:56 them is a travel day so it's muddled you know it's not a full day but this is like just full day hotel and then show so uh you take a nap you wake up and then and then what it's got to be getting pretty close to showtime yeah yeah yeah watch a little bit more football squeeze another nap in maybe maybe it depends again it depends on what city i'm yeah i mean this i'm this wednesday thursday friday no it was it'll been last week i guess it was i'll be in pensacola Beach, Florida, Lee and Morgan, so I'll go down to the beach. Yeah. Hang out down there. When I was in San Diego, I went to the San Diego Zoo. It was my first time in San Diego.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I just went there, too. I just was there, and I went to the zoo. Well, it's $70 cover, so I hope it's a good deal. Is it really? That's the cover charge for the zoo. You really are treating it like a strip club. It's the cover charge? Do you mean the ticket? The admission. The ticket to get cover charge for the zoo and you really are treating like a strip club it's the cover charge do you mean the ticket i have the admission ticket to get in i call it a cover because it's so
Starting point is 00:31:50 expensive val it's called cover charge in the comedy world you go to the san diego zoo i said fortunately somebody from the show worked for the zoo and gave us tickets so we didn't pay the 70s but the 70 i was saying at the at the shows i was saying um what i pay 70 american comedy company great club if uh if i pay 70 to go to a zoo i want an armadillo parking my car i want to have lunch with a cheetah and i want to have a full lunch not just him stopping by the table to say hi and i pointed out on this on the website where yeah when they're advertising 70 there's a lot of animals that are no longer there that they don't mention on that website. Oh, wow. The pandas, gone.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah. The pandas are gone? Yeah, I think they went back to China. But on the website, when you're buying your tickets online, they don't mention that. There's a lot of cages that are under construction. Pandas are a big draw, I bet. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:44 But it was still fun it was great um it was great and like some of the animals are not like you go you know did you take the bus tour no i did just the walking okay so we took the bus tour and some of the animals are like you know inside resting sleeping they're all yeah doing that but for 70 wake them up yeah i mean wake them up and get them dancing get them moving get some blood i'm not saying they have to it doesn't have to be a complete circus but it's got to be like i want to see them doing something yeah yeah for 70 they're all sleeping and then also i went to a little italy in san diego have you ever did you go to that how did because you did you get to Little Italy in New York?
Starting point is 00:33:25 Because what? Because you don't like Italian space? I mean, I didn't know about it, but yes. That was also true. Two reasons. I didn't know about it. Thank God I didn't know about it. I wouldn't have come to San Diego to be gay. This is the great one where it's like, how come you didn't go see the Italians in San
Starting point is 00:33:41 Diego? And then you go, all right, yeah, I did go to the zoo. in San Diego, and then you go, all right, yeah, I did go to the zoo. That would have been a slam on the... That would have been good. I'll use that later in the podcast. Jimmy Miller. Being in a town full of songwriters...
Starting point is 00:33:57 He's talking about Nashville, not New York City. Being in a town... Hill folks. Hill folks. ...full of songwriters that often get together and collaborate and write songs together i was curious if any of you do the same when it comes to comedy my guess would be that you don't write with other comics but i was curious if you ever brainstorm with other creative people
Starting point is 00:34:15 or friends when working on new material whatever you guys are doing obviously is working well that's nice just curious about your process. This is great. This is great. Actually, I'm sorry. You said Brian and my name's not Brian, but I'm going to. Well, Val's comment was great. I started and then you dissected it sentence by sentence. Why don't you take a few minutes to think about how you're going to destroy this comment. Val, first of all, we love you, Val. And I'm saying that because I'm on the comedy road right now. And so thank you, Val. Val, we love you. And Jimmy brings up a really good point because we do, I don't know what you guys do, but sometimes we'll call people and you'll just bounce bits off of each other. other and it'll be kind of an unstructured thing it's like i got this thing i'm working on and then you'll talk it out and it really really does help to talk it out and then get somebody else's input for who hasn't been mulling over it and thinking about it then you do the same for them and you go back and forth and it just uh it's really a fun process because you get to laugh and you get to
Starting point is 00:35:20 connect to a friend but you also are working on bits kind of informally most of the time. Yeah, I don't really do that. No? No, I don't like to get together and write literally. But yeah, bouncing stuff off that you're already kind of formulated. Yeah. We did that show recently with Alex Fluto and Johnny W. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And the next day, or maybe a couple days later, we went to lunch. And we'd all tried new bits that night, so we all heard it. Yeah. And the next day, or maybe a couple days later, we went to lunch and we'd all tried new bits that night. So we all heard it. Yeah. And then we worked on some tags or stuff like that. Yeah. But I'm not the type
Starting point is 00:35:53 that would sit down and was like, guys, I want to write something about a piano. You got any thoughts on that? But what if you already have something about a piano? Yeah. Then maybe,
Starting point is 00:36:01 and then it's like, oh, this part's not working. Yeah. Or it's like, is there another angle here? Yeah. i guess so who do you bounce off you got certain guys um i don't know it just depends but um i don't want to mention their names yeah because it seems like i'm name dropping then you know and but but but i used to live i will tell you i used to live in with dan soda
Starting point is 00:36:25 so we used to wake up and like go is this something is this something and cory repon well cory wasn't there i took cory's place oh okay yeah i was the replacement roommate so it worked out for all of you i think cory got married yeah he lives in jersey with kids yeah and me and soda lived as two adult men in the same apartment for a decade he's my house husband so i would throw things off of him and he would give me his feedback and then the same and uh it always really helped yeah yeah so you'll name drop him as a roommate i will name drop him what about you eric well i lived with uh david tell for 10 years he and i would bounce ideas uh i love when people have tags for me yeah i always say somebody said to me early i asked a comic i said can i give
Starting point is 00:37:14 you a tag and they said sure as long as you don't care if i don't use it and i i kind of live by that like yeah i'll hear anything yeah but i might not necessarily say it do you guys ever get a tag or feedback from a fan that actually is like that's a good yeah sometimes yeah sometimes it's like a different angle yeah but um yeah you guys seem like like you don't want that kind of feedback i don't take it as i take it as like the bit is still it's something it's somebody if you're doing a bit it's working and somebody comes up and even that, I kind of don't mind where it's like, Hey, this it's like, yeah, maybe, maybe not. People after shows go, I wanted more out of that. Like, like, so did I.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Yeah. I'd love to have you and me both, buddy. Yeah, no, I love it. I'll give me, I'll take any advice. But with comics, it's like, it's like funny. Yeah. I mean, not so much from the fan. I mean, from the people watching.
Starting point is 00:38:04 You got a great tag for etiquette joke. You want to tell them that? People quote that to me. I had a joke about cats. And what do you do when a cat dies? What do you do with the body? Yeah. Kind of walked through that.
Starting point is 00:38:18 It was not a good joke. Right. He agrees. I know. Right. I didn't know where you were going. But I say the joke i thought that was part i said in the joke what's the etiquette like i said the word etiquette yeah not an important word to the bit right the woman comes up to me after the show and she said i got a little idea for your cat joke and i said all right i love to hear it she goes you're talking about cat etiquette etiquette okay i go all right yeah
Starting point is 00:38:51 i go great i like it it's a good word you like it yeah i said that to dusty who i was opening for at the time and he said if you did that the show would have changed if you said etiquette people been like wait what is happening right now what kind of show is this etiquette uh uh aaron i don't want to be here all night so tell me about babble oh man let me tell you a little something about babble it is have you been to south america yet i haven't been i'm going in a couple weeks. Okay. I'm pretty excited. This fall, you can start speaking a new language with Babbel.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Let me play you a little something. Hear that sound? That's the sound it makes when you get a correct answer on one of Babbel's language learning quizzes. You hear that? Doesn't that feel good? It does. That's a good feeling. And you can get a lot more of that
Starting point is 00:39:45 if you use babble picture this you're sitting at your thanksgiving dinner you surprise your family by starting an argument i mean discussion in a that was brutal they wrote well we should get together right they wrote yeah we need to collaborate on this ad read uh start today and get ready look all the spartans out there uh let's get back to these comments yeah what's the next comment we got one from kian biard switzerland you guys were talking about how a 40 chance of rain doesn't mean there is a 40% chance you will be rained on, but there will be rain in 40% of your area. That's correct. If 40% of your area is covered in rain, there is still a 40% chance you will be rained on.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Love the podcast, though. Keep it up. I don't think that's true because I don't think that's right. You cover all the air, all the land. the land that sounds wrong yeah that sounds wrong a 40 chance of rain means exactly that it's a 40 chance that there will be rain on you isn't that exactly what it means no so we talked about this so what when a meteorologist says there's a... I like how you said that kind of frustrated. You're a stupid guest. We talked about this.
Starting point is 00:41:13 That's what it should mean. I love your frustration with me. That's what everybody thinks it means, because that's the way it sounds, right? But what they're actually saying is the area about which they're talking. Yes. That means that percentage will see rain but if you're in that area that doesn't that still when they say 40 chance of rain rain that means 40 of this area
Starting point is 00:41:31 will 100 see rain oh wow that's what that's what it means so it's a little i thought just all weather people were liars but this is now i feel stupid yeah no they're manipulators too and they talk down to you and they're condescending yeah i actually like that part of it but i just thought when they say it's gonna rain and it doesn't rain i get angry it's a little annoying and i especially hate it when they do the 10-day forecast yeah and then then they slowly change it as the time goes on it's like that's should be illegal and think you don't notice yeah yeah you think i know i was gonna rain completely and then oh there's a 50 chance and as the days go on and it gets closer they get more accurate you watch the news every night no because i was starting to get excited like all right do you watch the news well i used
Starting point is 00:42:15 to be in the news business so i like to keep up with it and i feel like guys of a certain age maybe we're more inclined to i don't have cable anymore so i I can't watch. But the news is not on. I mean, you don't have any. You can't get the NBC, ABC, CBS. I have the World Wide Web, but I'm not keeping up. I look on my app. Trying to bond with him so hard. He's shooting everything down. You read the newspaper?
Starting point is 00:42:38 No, I haven't had a newspaper in 20 years. But he said World Wide Web. I like that. The World Wide Web. That's what I call it. But I have my weather app that I look. Oh, well, you're mad at Apple then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Instead of a weatherman. Well, now they're invisible weather people, yeah. The app is an aimless, faceless person who's trying to trick me. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Catherine Zochler. That's a great name. It is.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Zochler. Sounds like the Sackler family. Zochler. The Zochler is like like they do off-brand prescription drugs like you know the sackler the sackler is the aren't they the yeah they're the prescription drug people yeah yeah and the zochler this is great it was a great joke thanks man so clear they do like yeah apple cider vinegar and stuff I recently told my husband that for the past few months, I was having a really hard time getting moving in the morning. You and me.
Starting point is 00:43:30 He mentioned hearing this guy on Jim Rome. Wow. I haven't heard Jim Rome's name in a while. He was great. Talk about cold showers. I said, oh, yeah, Mike Vecchione is big into cold showers, to which he replied, who is Mike Vecchione? Exactly. It sounds like a Jim Rome listener.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Oh, it sounds like she's cheating on her husband with me. Who is this guy? Anyway, I started taking cold showers the next morning, and it's not exaggerating much to say it is changing my life. Thank you for passing along the tip. You still do that? Catherine. Yes, Catherine for passing along the tip. You still do that? Catherine. Yes, Catherine. It's the secret. I'm trying to spread it. And people, because there's so much information out there and I'm not a doctor, I guess in Alabama I would be, but not a doctor in normal terms. But it's changed my life also, Catherine. So it's, it, I still take them.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I've never, I don't take hot showers anymore. You took one this morning? Cold shower? Yeah. Worked out, cold shower. And it's just a natural thing that I'll take a cold shower because it, it, it regulates your mood. There's mood shifting.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I don't know what it does to you, but I do a breathing practice also. So it's really cool. And some, like my girl lives in Indiana. Her parents have a farm in Indiana and it's well water. Yeah, she came to my show this weekend. Did she? In Jasper, yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Well, she was in, her family probably did. Where do they live? They live in Dalesville. Yeah, that's right next door. We're fist pounding for those of you who can't afford a computer um again it's a mystery why my podcast didn't work talking down to the fans turns out not to work why go ahead cold shower it it it stimulates your um nervous system and it fights against it counteracts depression it really really does. And people think I'm
Starting point is 00:45:26 crazy to say that, but it really, it, I can feel it on the road. I can feel it. Cause I go to some places like the comedy road, the comedy road. And I was in Phoenix and they don't have cold water in Phoenix. And, uh, I could feel my mood drop. I was working out, sleeping, still doing the same routine, but my mood, I could feel it drop. And with was working and I was sleeping, still doing the same routine, but my mood, I could feel it drop. And with cold showers, that doesn't happen. Anyway, my point with my girl's family's farm, those showers, some of those showers,
Starting point is 00:45:57 like that and in Vancouver during the winter. And we went to Italy. We were in Rome during the summer and it was so hot. But then I guess it's the underwater, uh, the system that they have, the water is freezing cold and I never slept better. It's, uh, it's just, it's really unbelievable. It really, I can tell the difference between when I stopped taking freezing showers because when I was in Phoenix, they don't have cold water there. do you mean about like would it be still cold to us in phoenix like it would be cold because because you're used you're used to um hot you're used to hot so if it didn't work it would be like oh i'm
Starting point is 00:46:34 taking a warm shower this is annoying it wouldn't be freezing but it it's annoying if it's if it's you know lukewarm but to me i'm like used to getting a shock when i go in the shower yeah so yeah that doesn't have it doesn't have the same effect but do you wash your dishes with cold water that's an interesting that's really an interesting question you could just eliminate hot water all together save money i wash it with hot water but i wash my hands i wash my face all cold water cold water yeah interesting your clothes you go to laundromat uh no i have my laundry done do you do cold washes oh yeah you haven't i send it to somebody who does it okay yeah oh wow that's nice yeah really no i mean it's new york it's like there's nowhere to do your i mean
Starting point is 00:47:17 there's a place up the street but it's too much the guy right beneath me does a great job on my laundry so i just drop it off and believe me if I could have a washer and dryer, I would. Is it rare to have one in your apartment in New York? I just thought everyone went to the laundromat. They do sometimes. When I was in Queens, you would go to the laundromat. You'd have a New York mostly from Seinfeld. I was actually thinking, what was the Adam Sandler movie, Big Daddy. Yeah. And he meets the girl
Starting point is 00:47:46 and you know, someone's on Bleeker Street and she's like, yeah, they meet there on a date to wash their clothes. That's what I was envisioning. That's New York. Yeah, no, it does happen like that. But the culture the culture is different. People like there's no parking is crazy. So it depends if you live in
Starting point is 00:48:02 Queens, you can. Yeah, we've been to the zoo. Call back. parking is crazy so it depends if you live in queens you can yeah we've been to the zoo call back you can park in queens you probably but it's very rare to have a washer and dryer in your apartment interesting yeah i think the only time i've taken a cold shower at least it's on purpose well it wasn't on purpose was the biggest show of my life bridgestone arena in front of almost 20 000 people right i don't know about your dressing room but at my dressing room there was no warm water yeah no they gave me a good one so i had a hot tub in my i don't think i could do i didn't think i could do it before then but i'm like i gotta have a shower right you have to because we've been on the bus and then two days yeah shower and i had to do a cold shower i had no
Starting point is 00:48:43 choice but it about killed me but don't you in that um first of all like i've been on the bus and then two days to get a shower. And I had to do a cold shower. I had no choice, but it about killed me. But don't you in that, first of all, like I've been in situations like with Nate on the road where you go to these theaters, like, and you'll just, there's no warm. Yeah. And everybody's like up in arms. They're like, oh my God, there's no warm water. And I'm just like, don't even think twice about it.
Starting point is 00:49:01 It doesn't even affect me in any way. So, but don't you but don't you don't you feel like you have a superpower like when when the cold water hits you when you're able to weather that way yeah i feel that way and mentally because mentally i feel like you know it's like a thing where it's like oh i'm immediately just overcoming something that's difficult wow yeah so it's like the whole theory of make your bed in the morning it's like i have something done so if regardless of whatever happens the rest of the day my bed is made so now i can take the momentum i'm a big momentum guy so it's like i'm gonna build on the momentum of making my bed and go into something
Starting point is 00:49:33 else same with a cold shower it's like i've already overcome this do the hardest thing in your day do the hardest thing eat the frog isn't that what it's called oh i didn't know that you ever heard that expression eat the frog no if you to eat a frog, just eat it first thing in the morning. It's the same principle. That sounds like an Alabama diet. Just eat the frog. That sounds like swamp nutrition. Just eat the frog.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Eat the frog, Jesse. Jeff Larson. Great name. I've been listening to old episodes and just finished the wall street episode god bless you that was a tough one just curious how old diamond hands is doing on his investments well i appreciate it i will say uh i cashed out a little bit of amc stock made a little bit of a profit oh you did felt good? Felt good. I held GameStop. Still have it? Still have it.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Well, that's the one that you were really... That was a big one. I thought that was taking me to the moon, and it still might. And I will say, I mostly haven't sold it because I forgot about it. Oh, that's good. That's what they take today, right? I forgot about it. I think I deleted the app from my phone, but you know. Don't they tell you to invest it and just forget about it?
Starting point is 00:50:43 No, I wasn't consulting anybody about this. I know, but forget about it because you invest it and just forget about it no I wasn't consulting anybody about I know forget about it because you lost it that's what they want you to think there's isn't there already a movie
Starting point is 00:50:52 about all that I wouldn't surprise Wolf of Wall Street that'd be a great I think there's already a movie about that whole game if they made
Starting point is 00:50:58 like a big short style movie about that it would be great I think they have a is it Adam McKay I don't know you're not even over there, Lauren. I can't believe I've been wearing that the whole time.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Forgot about the sunglasses. The sunglasses? The guy who's in your DMs about your shuffling, he's going to lose it. And the sunglasses! And the sunglasses! How much am I to take? The Dump Dusty guy is going to pivot to me. Dump Aaron.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Dump Aaron. I don't like that. Nancy Sauer. If you could only sleep in one position, for example, side of your body, for the rest of your life, what would it be? Oh, my God. On my side. Right side. Righty. Just on a side spread out.
Starting point is 00:51:43 I feel like I'm stretching when i'm sleeping kind of in that position because you you torque your body a little bit i'm always holding a pillow which makes my girl furious but holding a pillow twerked to the side twerking you say torqued or twerked i think it's uh the kids are calling it twerking and And if I... To make it all Gen Z, I'm twerking, I wake up, vape, and then go back to sleep. Guys, he's young. I'm young. Things are happening. But now I'm on my side.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Twerked. What about you, Ryan? I think mine would also be my side. My back hurts now, especially picking up my kid all day. Right. My back gets stiff. Yeah. But then you wake up with some shoulder pain, don't you, if you're sleeping on the side?
Starting point is 00:52:33 Well. Putting a lot of stress on the shoulder. I sleep on my back, head straight up. The whole time? Mm-hmm. Well, you got to because of CPAP. The CPAP machine. How do you have CPAP?
Starting point is 00:52:41 It does limit your range of movement. Yeah. I mean, I wore CPpap too but i can still lay on my side yeah you guys are both c-pap guys yeah we're joining the club dude wow i think i'm breathing okay so it's cold showers we don't have depression so we don't have to take cold showers we live in a nice place yeah we can wash our clothes thanks you really took it to me yeah it's like uh it's like under the radar the way that you're slamming me, but it's like,
Starting point is 00:53:06 actually, we don't have depression. Yeah. So good luck living our life. We don't have to do things like take cold showers to enjoy life. Yeah, we call it being a man. We call it being a man.
Starting point is 00:53:14 We have God in our lives. Yeah. Well, at least I don't have asthma. Night asthma, like both of you guys. Night asthma. That is what it is. We forget to breathe as soon as we go to sleep jr baker from dallas
Starting point is 00:53:29 that was jr ewing yeah wasn't there a baker dallas bakersfield can someone get good at creating material for stand-up oh i misread that the wrong tone i was saying for the love of god could somebody get good i was like geez jr can someone get good at creating material for stand-up or is it one of those things you either got it now you don't okay it's a little bit of both nature versus nurture but you could start off with a little bit of uh talent but i think if you want it bad enough you can like you have to have some natural talent you can't be completely off but you have to have some natural it's like anything else you have to have some natural talent but then once you have it and you
Starting point is 00:54:13 you work on it years and years and years and years you get better and better are there guys you don't have to name names are there guys when you started you saw them out in new york you thought this guy it's not funny. And then they surprised you and now they have a big career. Yeah. Not even a big career. It's just like they're hilarious. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:54:33 And it didn't start that way. It started like this guy couldn't. I've had that about me. Really? Somebody said that to me. It's like, I thought you were going to fail miserably. It's like, and you've gotten actually decently funny. Somebody said to me a few years, like not a few years ago,
Starting point is 00:54:49 it was years ago, but they said, when I first saw you in New York, he's like, you looked terrible. And now you're funny. Wow. So it hurt me a little bit because I was like, oh, you know, I didn't know it was terrible. But it's good that none of us know how bad we are or we probably would all quit. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Yeah. I was talking about this this weekend. You do need a little bit of delusion. Yes. To just keep going. Because if you're fully aware, at least for me, if I was fully aware of how bad I was, I probably would have quit. Yeah. You know, but in my head, I'm like, there's something here, even when there isn't, you know, it's a balance. Nate started before I did, but the guys here in Nashville, I mean, he really started chicago but he would come to nashville and he surprised you when he
Starting point is 00:55:28 started to do well no he was already great before when i met him but the guys who here in nashville who knew when he started said he was not funny well he was he was i was with him in the early days in new york he was always funny but like the way his he's evolved it's like night and day it's unbelievable how how concise and well written everything it's, it's like night and day. It's unbelievable how concise and well-written everything. But that's years and years. And that gives everybody else hope. And it's like you celebrate it because it's like, oh, yeah, of course there's raw talent there. But it's the work ethic and putting it in and watching something.
Starting point is 00:56:00 There's something very pleasurable about watching something over time develop into this great thing. We talking 20 years yeah yeah yeah it's your it's your life you know it's it's your life but you're you putting your life into develop developing something into greatness over time it's it's unbelievable but i would say hard work is even more important yeah you need both to really get good but right you need both but like your heart too and also like the way you live your life is also obvious like the way you navigate like it's easy to get bitter a lot of times it's easy to like want to quit it's easy just to not quit but like uh what do they call it quiet quit now where it's like you're not writing anything new but you're still going up so there's and i and there's guys like that, that we all know. And I understand that I have empathy for it because it's very difficult.
Starting point is 00:56:48 But if you're a guy who can just like stay the course and keep coming, it's like, you know, can't guarantee that you're going to be Nate. You know what I mean? But you'll be in a good place. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 00:57:02 you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. If you can do it for a career full-time, you've made it. Yeah, that's the goal. I mean, there's not many people that are happier than I am as far as what we're doing. Yeah, you look. We poke fun at you. You got the life.
Starting point is 00:57:15 You got a wife. You got a kid. You're a full-time comic. Yeah, and your face, buddy. At least he's got one of those. Wait, Fates, you're taking it to me today. Yeah. And I love it.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Yeah. I think the fans love it. Take down this Yankee. A lot of misplaced rage towards Nate because you're in that chair. I'm in this chair. It has nothing to do with me really. Well, I've started taking testosterone again, so it's starting to come out. High T. Bryan.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah. Jacob Hoover from the Hoover family. I didn't know there was another side one of the worst presidents ever right hoover hoover yeah what is he like he's such a member hoover vacuum cleaner he's making a age joke but now i've got you right so we can double down on the kid jacob hoover i was wearing an erin land t-shirt at a festival and found another folk i told him that i was still trying to get my comment read out loud on the pod and he said it might be because my name is too easy to say well there you go jacob hoover thanks for writing in thanks for wearing that erin land
Starting point is 00:58:13 t-shirt i sell erin land t-shirts at shows i don't think i'm gonna buy more of them why not because i've had this batch for a while and it is a tough it's a tough sell to people who've never heard of me or the podcast but what about if you um are you going to make the move to koozies maybe it's not the air land brand maybe it's the shirt that people don't like because aren't people shirtless in alabama a lot they're cut off i'm talking I'm talking you're astronauts even well what I find is because I sell
Starting point is 00:58:46 similar shirts to Aaron yeah that only Nate Land people will know Batesville well yeah but it says hello folks
Starting point is 00:58:54 it's got me on there doing that but now I'm going back to places that I've already been once yeah it's the same people coming out
Starting point is 00:59:01 so when I pitch my shirt they're all like yeah we bought it last year because no new fans are coming. Yeah. Maybe a collared shirt for formal occasions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:10 That's a good idea. Actually, Bates, everybody else sells shirts. Bates is selling tuxedos. Brian Parker. Many comedians seem to have a painful past or grew up with a lot of dysfunction.
Starting point is 00:59:23 They use comedy to channel their thoughts and feelings into making fun of it. The cast of Nate Land all seem to have come from nice living homes. Living homes. They've had a nice living in homes. Sure. Where do you all draw your inspiration for comedy from? Dusty draws his from his past yeah i mean he had
Starting point is 00:59:47 an i think he enjoyed his childhood but yes he'll be the first to tell you he had a loving mom and loving dad yeah and despite the circumstances he still did grow up with a great family but yeah most of the comics i hang out with are just like brutal family lives. I mean, I don't think I have a single comedian friend with a dad. Thanks, buddy. Oh, my God, Brian. Appreciate that. I wasn't thinking.
Starting point is 01:00:17 My dad passed away. I wasn't thinking about it. Let's move on. He told me before the podcast he was going to say that. Yeah, he was going to take a shot. He said he was going to try to hurt you. I was making a joke and it fell flat. It didn't fall flat.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I hit harder than ever. It got so real. Just like my dad when he passed away. Why don't you tell us about, because I don't want to be here all night. Tell us about Mint Mobile. Oh, I was just about to talk to you about Mint Mobile. It's one of my favorite things in the world. Signing your life away to a big wireless provider is kind of like being trapped on a roller coaster. They probably threw in a free phone, but now you can't get off month after month of high bills, overages, and surprise fees.
Starting point is 01:00:56 If that sounds like your current big wireless plan, it's time to get off the ride with Mint Mobile. See, I like that. That's a good metaphor for the realities that a lot of us face being trapped in these contracts with these companies that don't care about you. They don't care about customer service. For a limited time, wireless plans for Mint Mobile are just $15 a month. That's unlimited talk, text, and data for $15 a month. I mean, look, that is a steal. Those crazy low prices.
Starting point is 01:01:27 They offer great service that is so affordable. If you have kids, this is a great option for them too. Wireless bills keep increasing. Tricked in New York City. He used to prosecute. He was a Racketts attorney. He would prosecute mob guys. The RICO Act, that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Yeah. And he's wrote a couple couple of books which i've read i've talked to him on the phone actually we're supposed to get together before covid but um that's another mike vecchione and there's another mike vecchione who's a marine biologist wow so i'm like the least successful mike vecchione well you're dominating them in search engine optimization i'll tell you that, anytime I get it to my Tonight Show, I go on top. And then when the Mike Vecchione, who's a hockey player, scores, and he scored something in the some Ryder Cup.
Starting point is 01:02:13 It was not Ryder Cup. I'm saying the wrong thing. It was some kind of a cup for that division. He scored the winning goal, and everybody was DMing me that this Mike Vecchione. I didn't know you were a hockey player. We're just like June of this year. Vecchione scored the series winning goal in overtime of game seven of the 2023 Calder Cup. Calder Cup.
Starting point is 01:02:31 That's what it was. Yeah. So shout out to that Mike Vecchione. He's a handsome stud. And the zoologist has a Wikipedia page, too. Yeah. Yeah. You don't have one, huh?
Starting point is 01:02:43 A Wikipedia? Yeah. I think I have an imdb what is that thing that's more impressive yeah imdb yeah so that's not like a common name either it's amazing well in in italy bates let me tell you about italy hey i've been to the zoo that was slam that was a great slam um in italy i think it's not that uncommon you know becchio we're not in italy my name is brian bates and yeah i've set up a google let it set me straight dude we're not in italy yeah yeah it's like bates you know you didn't say that but it had that right into it
Starting point is 01:03:19 right in your tone i love it i love it let Let me have it. I shouldn't be here. You did everything except call me a migrant. Is that a derogatory term? Yeah. It just means without papers. It's not dirty. It's an acronym. It's like NASA.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Oh, okay. So we can leave that in. No, I set up a Google name thing for myself. So every day I just read about more successful brian pates's because it's never me yeah there's a guy who's called him uh he's called himself the uh golly i forgot now the video vigilante video vigilante and he goes around and like uh films johns with prostitutes and like tries to uh embarrass them um there's this guy. He's an immigration lawyer in Houston. One of the top immigration lawyers in Houston, Texas.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Oh, my God. Brian Bates. That guy's better looking than you. Well, he works for Fong Logging. Of course he's going to be successful. Right. That's a good firm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:17 So. All right. What does he do? Now, he goes around and videotapes people and then blackmails them? That's a different. That guy looks like he would do that, by the way. This is a totally different guy.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Can you Google video vigilante? Yeah, vigilante Brian Bates. I don't think you have to do Brian Bates. JohnTV.com. Yeah, that's him. He's got his own. You're busted. You're busted.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Oh, my God. The original video vigilante. This is how I think. This is the direction you should take your career. This is how I think this is the direction you should take your career. Since 1996, Brian Bates, Oklahoma's own video vigilante, has been spotlighting the graphic realities of street, forced, and underage prostitution. This is like serious stuff, huh? But he has more TV credits than I do.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Yeah. And then, I'll say one more. Right. When. Oh, man, he looks pretty good, too. Yeah, good looking guy. We all are. He's handsome.
Starting point is 01:05:12 It was, uh, when the McDonald's character Grimace, uh, they announced he was a taste bud. Did you guys hear that? No. That's what he is. He's a taste bud, but it was, um, some McDonald's manager in Canada that broke the news. His name is Brian Bates. So wow. I got all these alerts about Grimace because Brian Bates broke the news. So anyway, I like how wow i got all these alerts about grimace because brian
Starting point is 01:05:25 baits broke the news so anyway i like how he's like did you hear about grimace the news i don't know i haven't read the mcdonald's newsletter recently brian well nate gets it yeah i forgot nate wasn't here all right here we go we got a comment from Brandon Conrad. We just did that one. Just did that one. We got one from Robert Ramey. What should, oh, this is a good question. What should the speed limit be if all cars are self-driving? It's an interesting question.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Yeah. Now, I know that for gas-powered vehicles during the Cold War, when there was a gas and oil shortage, a lot of the speed limits were changed to 55 to maximize engine efficiency. But I assume that these self-driving vehicles are all going to be electric. I don't know how the speed affects the battery. I don't know if there's a maximum efficiency point. So, I think you can just go as fast as you want.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Why not go 100 miles an hour? Yeah, because it's going to have a detector when you get close enough to another car to slow down, right? So, why does it matter? It's going to have a detector, isn't it? Kids are going to have to run faster. Yeah. But if you're going 100 miles an hour and it stops you're gonna
Starting point is 01:06:46 well if you hit the kid then they'll just replace him with um robotic parts i would imagine this is all in the future right yeah yeah he's like six million dollar man i don't know if anybody's old enough to remember that but it's uh steve austin yeah but uh lee major steve stone cold but so six million dollars in the future will be nothing. Nothing. Yeah. Just inflation and everything. It'll be like Zimbabwe money or something. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:09 So I imagine maybe in the interstate, we have an express lane on the left. And it's just like, hey, you can't get off for 500 miles or something. And you have to drive 250 miles an hour. That would be the way to do it. Yeah. Well, maybe every lane's got their own speed limit. Yeah. That would be the way to do it yeah well every maybe every lane's got their own speed limit yeah that would be good but the faster the lane the more you have to go before you can exit i think so i think you have to commit to a certain length just so everyone can get the most out of it you know imagine going 250 and then having to change lanes over to 100. Can I get over? Hey, can I get over?
Starting point is 01:07:48 Yeah, it would have to almost have a separate exit. There's going to be a lot of infrastructure involved in this, I think. Infrastructure. Wow. Okay. What? I like the word infrastructure. It is a good word.
Starting point is 01:08:01 You don't think that R is going to be in there, but it's in there. I like three guys talking about infrastructure who had no idea about it it's like we should do this like we should have a another lane with its own speed limit and then um we should have a train that goes faster than that right it's like do we just have infinite space cement yeah we need the infrastructure infrastructure infrastructure michael ellsworth do you find yourself adjusting final jokes at the end of your set to be sure you don't quote pull a bait at the end? Oh man, that's brutal. Like if a joke doesn't land with a crowd, do you have an alternative for the end of the set?
Starting point is 01:08:34 Or if something kills harder than normal, will you finish the set early to end on a high note? It's another great question, I think. Yeah. Let me take this one. Yeah. Go ahead. What does he mean by a pool of baits? Yeah. He mentioned your name in it.
Starting point is 01:08:48 So go on the offensive, Michael. He's talking about the fiasco, about the standing ovation and everything at the driver. I think that's what he's referencing. Maybe. I mean, these jokes are the, I mean, these comments are in my evergreen stack. Yeah. You know, so he could have two years ago could have emailed that when we were talking about something i don't i don't remember i definitely if i'm like
Starting point is 01:09:11 one joke away from maybe the closer and the joke before that does really well i've i've gotten off early if you've done your time you're like yeah might as well just yeah yeah yeah out of here yeah um and i certainly adjust boy when i was new i just couldn't do that like i'm like i gotta stick to the script these are the jokes i don't have anything but now thankfully if you tell if you know if the audience just isn't digging it i can pivot some i mean i don't have some i can't just launch into crowd work right but i can pivot a little bit. Right. Oh, we haven't seen you since the Dry Bar special came out, have we? Well, we recorded yesterday's.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Oh, yeah. It hasn't come out yet, but the one with John Chris. I can't remember what I've seen, people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good to see you, man. Well, thank you. Thank you. I mentioned it briefly, but Nate shut it down pretty fast. Were you happy that it came out and everything?
Starting point is 01:10:02 Did you watch it? Did you go through, like, Mike watched his four times. You know, I watched it. They sent me a rough draft ahead of time, and I gave them one note. I left out a line of a joke. I don't know why. Just whatever reason, just skip my mind. But we did two tapings that night, so I emailed them, and I said,
Starting point is 01:10:20 hey, could you, for this joke, I left out this line. Could you use the version from the other show? I can't swear that I didn't believe it out on both shows, but the odds are pretty slim. And then when I got the final version, they had not changed it. So there was a line of joke that was left out, which I didn't like that. Some of the jokes did not hit as hard as I feel like they do every weekend on the road. But overall, yeah. It looked really great.
Starting point is 01:10:43 I was happy. That's awesome. The clip was good. I hope it helps you sell on the road. I hope so too really great i was happy that's awesome clip was good i hope it helps you sell on the road i hope so too yeah i don't know i feel like that's um the comedy i feel like you're saying it sarcastically but absolutely not i mean that genuinely all right i hope it does help i would never joke is it hard for you to jump you get whiplash from jumping back to sincere and sarcastic no i don't know i think i figured you guys could tell we're in the same room together yeah you guys can feel the energy but i think that's the most that's the first sincere comment of the day and we're over an hour into this so do you ever uh do you debrief the podcast on your
Starting point is 01:11:15 drive home in your mind i run through it in my head i think about stuff i wish i hadn't said that kind of stuff stuff i wish i said stuff about stuff I wouldn't have. So we did the, it hasn't come out yet. Well, we taped it yesterday, the Georgia episode. I can already predict some things people are going to say. What are they going to say?
Starting point is 01:11:31 Too Atlanta heavy, but so much of Georgia is Atlanta. Right. Yeah. But, and, and then every state now they say, you didn't get to this,
Starting point is 01:11:40 this, this, this. We barely, we didn't even touch on really Chick-fil-A, Waffle House, stuff you think would be in a roll house. The importance. Yeah. But don't read the comments. to this this this this we barely we didn't even touch on really chick-fil-a waffle house stuff you think would be the importance yeah but don't read the comments why do you guys read the comments
Starting point is 01:11:50 i mean i read them too right it's like none of us should read any of them we've been reading them all this but these are the positive these people are good but brian sorts through them that's that's the tough part yeah and i have to put in pull of baits on myself yeah well could i answer this one yeah because i have some insight into michael's comment i love it um and it's not uh sarcastic if i do a joke and it bombs i'll just go let's give it up for the troops for the troops and if anybody doesn't clap al-qaeda al-qaeda al-qaeda you hate america you hate america you hate America, get out of my show. But no, I always, even if the thing goes on a high note, I'll go the extra. If I have another joke, I'll do it anyway, just to see.
Starting point is 01:12:37 And then if it fails, I go, I should have ended with the other joke, but I pushed it too far. And you guys didn't go with me. I always turn it and put it on the audience. I make it their fault. Yeah, you're great with that. I admit that sincerely. You guys are both really strong comics. When Kevin Nealon did the podcast,
Starting point is 01:12:56 he told a great trick that he, about for corporate gigs, he'll say if the crowd's not paying attention, he'll just start saying a prayer. He was like, let's bow our heads in prayer. It's really great. And I could sort of be like, ugh, be quiet, and then you our heads in prayer. That's really great. Then you can start your set. That's a good technique. Tough to do in a club.
Starting point is 01:13:12 A club shouldn't... They should be policing. They should have started the show with a prayer. The Pledge of Allegiance and a prayer. Do they still do the Pledge of Allegiance places? I can't remember the last time. I've never been at a... You've never done the Pledge of Allegiance places? I can't remember the last time. I've never been at a...
Starting point is 01:13:26 You've never done the Pledge of Allegiance? A Pledge of Allegiance at a comedy show? Yeah. No. I mean in general. When you're a kid, I did it every day. Every day. I did the Pledge of Allegiance.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Every day. And I don't think I've done it maybe since. I don't think I ever did it in high school. Maybe I did in high school. I can't remember when you taught did yeah the pledge every day didn't the pledge allegiance they do it over the announcements yeah oh over the for the whole so you'll be if you want to hear what's for lunch today you're going to do the pledge of allegiance that's right but do you make the kids recite it
Starting point is 01:13:59 or do they just have to listen uh no i think every i mean i when i taught i taught 20 years ago so everybody would stand up right and and then it was the play and you shame the kids that don't say under god like a good teacher we're gonna do five minutes you know meditation is uh from they can't get meditation through the school system because they think it's in it's in conflict with god so it's like that's a whole thing it's like we don't need your voodoo in here it's like it's science-backed meditate it's five minutes of meditation they're not telling you to think about another god you can think about your whatever you want it's like mindful yeah supposed to be it's quiet time quiet the practice of letting thoughts go is really what you're supposed
Starting point is 01:14:41 to be doing and it has nothing to do with any of it. And it's supposed to like scientifically be proven to work, just like cold showers and pushing all of my stuff on you guys. And this is the South. Yeah, I know, but they won't let it. Yardle was banned in schools for until pretty recently. I mean,
Starting point is 01:14:56 that's yeah. I mean, it can only help you. I didn't get to this in the Georgia episode, but it was founded. The two things they banned were rum and Catholics. And I support both of those. It makes me want to move to Georgia.ia you guys are both catholic right yes and i love the slam yeah and i appreciate it i don't think georgia's wrong actually i like taking a side against my
Starting point is 01:15:16 own people anybody who goes against italians and catholics i get on board with it i at least love the effort on the slam pledge allegiance came alongiance came along very late, though, didn't it? Like, you think it's since the founding of our country, but I think it was like the 1950s or something when it was. Was it? I wasn't alive back then, but you were in school? Oh, come on. What are we, nine months apart or something?
Starting point is 01:15:38 The same age. I think we're the same age. It was written. The first version was written in 1892 to mark the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus in the Americas. The pledge that we recite now was written in 1954. That's way later than I thought. Oh, wow. I thought they were doing this at the constitutional.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Yeah. Yeah, I thought so, too. Yeah, like Ben Franklin was doing it. There would have been a lot more yeas in it. Mm-hmm. And old. Yeah. Yeah. yeah i thought so yeah like ben franklin was doing there would have been a lot of more yeas in it and um old yeah yeah at the to the right hand is extended blah blah anyway yeah that's way later than i thought my first version was written by francis belling he used to open for me francis bellamy in 18 bill bellamy's younger cousin so So this is probably done in kind of the Cold War Fuhrer. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Fuhrer? No, not Fuhrer. Fuhrer's not, that's something different. Fervor. No, very different. Wow, that was cool. Very different. The Cold War. We found it, though. You found it. I did find it. But yeah, it was like, if you didn't say it, then you were a communist. Probably back then, right?
Starting point is 01:16:44 McCarthyism. McCarthyism,ism yeah that's a good point all right this week guys we're talking about geniuses all right we got rid of the less intellectual too and we got three smart guys here at the table we can finally get into it yeah now i've said on this podcast that nate and dusty are two of the versions of goodwill hunting in comedy. I mean, where they started to where they're at now is pretty crazy. I mean, they're both... Neither one was very smart, but they're so successful. No, they're both very smart.
Starting point is 01:17:16 But Dusty grew up in a trailer... Well, we don't have to... You guys know. Yeah. I don't have to rehash their bio. So you could say street smart. Yeah. Yeah. yeah versus book smart yeah hmm but very book smart the streets of comedy yeah street smart is just based it's
Starting point is 01:17:34 common sense skills and navigating life and book smart when you say street smarts i think like they're playing three card money somewhere i don't don't think Nate and Dusty. Street smarts. Nate and Dusty were playing stickball in Brooklyn. Street smarts, you know, kid? Street smarts. They got moxie, both of them. So, genius. The definition of a genius. You want to know?
Starting point is 01:17:58 I think it's all intellect. Somebody, yeah. Can I guess? Yeah. Your IQ is over 160? If your IQ is over... No. If your IQ is over 165, you're a genius.
Starting point is 01:18:14 I think that's right. Yes. And that makes me pretty smart. That bumps you up a couple points. I don't think it's clearly... I mean, it's just that... 165? Is there like a medical definition?
Starting point is 01:18:24 No. An official definition for a genius no there's not it's associated with intellectual ability but also create creative productivity so that's where yeah that's where you can you can make an argument yeah nate is a genius yeah can you guys break down intellectual ability because really what iq is is intelligence quotient yes you're really taking it the bear behind the cue come from let's start at the beginning yeah IQ is, is intelligence quotient. Yes. You're really taking it the bear. The cue come from let's start at the beginning. Yeah. But it's, but until measuring intellect is like your ability to work through a series of tasks in an efficient way to master a skill in an efficient way.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Yeah. So that's what it is. And I, I didn't realize that until pretty recently. It sounds like a good way of reframing it to fit what you got going on. Well, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:19:08 no, no, it doesn't actually, I'm far from it. I'm deficient in it all. That's why it's like, mine is probably on the lower end, but I'm like putting together like things like you,
Starting point is 01:19:18 you buy a bedroom set, like when you, you had a baby. So it's like putting together a crib from a Kia. That's IQ. It's like, how fast can you do kia that's iq it's like how fast can you do it can you figure it out screws and bolts and all this stuff everywhere it's written in swedish so it's like you got you go in and it's like somebody with a high iq
Starting point is 01:19:34 figures that they have no background in it they they look at all the information and they figure it out and put it together quickly without having emotional breakdowns and all kinds of stuff that somebody with a lower IQ would have. How, how did you build the crib crib, Brian? Were you a genius about it? Yeah. I called my brother-in-law and I'm come over one weekend when I was out of town. That might be the smartest way to do it. That is street smarts. Hire somebody else to do it. Yeah. Marry someone who has a brother who knows how to do stuff. There you go. He has an IQ probably. Yeah. Yeah yeah and he knows i don't know how to fix anything well they there is no even a clear iq see i read different things one thing said when it first started if you have 140
Starting point is 01:20:13 or above you consider it genius but that was one in every 250 people to me that seems too low that's way too low 140 is high though it's high but I think a genius. Then they proposed 180, which would be about one in every two million. To me, that seems too high. Yeah. 160 to me seems like too high. 165, 160, I think is genius. What was the last one? 165 is genius.
Starting point is 01:20:33 One in every two million people. So how many people are in the United States? 300 million. Yes. So there'd be 150 geniuses in the country. Does that sound right to you? To me, that seems low. I think I kind of like that.
Starting point is 01:20:44 That makes it more exclusive. I think Tennessee low i think i kind of like that that makes it more exclusive i think tennessee has six million people or something like that i mean there's three geniuses in the whole state probably that sounds right with as many waffle houses you have yeah the ratio of waffle house to geniuses is always important um do you guys know mensa i was getting that next okay are. Are you a member? No. Mark and that's in. Yeah. As a joke,
Starting point is 01:21:07 they said, I tried to join Mensa, but I failed. So I joined woman. So that's a great joke. Yeah. Yeah. Mensa. Do you know the qualifications for that?
Starting point is 01:21:16 You have to take a test. Do you have to have an IQ over a certain? Yeah. You have to take a test. You have to have a certain IQ to apply. Correct. I think it's just the uh you take the iq test yeah you have to be in the 98th percentile on iq test
Starting point is 01:21:31 98th so or other standardized intelligent test yeah so you gotta be in the top two percent two percent wow now there's a girl who's like three years old now who just joined minso these two-year-olds are getting arrogant i know but her test is on a level of a two-year-old right yeah they're like build these blocks real quick yeah so it's not like she's taking the same thing we are but um she's better at legos than all of us yeah that's too young for legos i think um what are you gonna say about menssa i just know about it yeah that's as uh close that's how low my iq is i know about it but that's it do you know what they do i think they get together and talk down to dumb people you know what they do i think it is i think they just get together they get
Starting point is 01:22:19 together and play chess i think they just talk about bright ideas almost like a think tank they just get together and solve the world's problems that's what i thought right that's what i thought smoking should be it's like they got their outcasts and they have their own section outside where they can smoke it's like if you're going to smoke it's like there should be a sign with a topic it's like climate change and then smoke and they have to solve it wouldn't that be a better use of their time before they go back inside yeah if you're gonna kill yours you know you're killing yourself so it's like you're with other people and you're your own group so you know instead of just talking about the weather and the 40 chance of rain maybe you could talk about you know climate change and then
Starting point is 01:22:58 you know solve it and go back in with the answer sometimes they do end up talking about that stuff out there would it be you know but it would know but some of the best conversations are just out there you know yeah talk about that kind of stuff right but that's for the that's my idea for the smokers and also mensa it's like give them a topic and then force them to solve it like don't let them out of the room make it like a forced jury right duty kind of self-declared genius yes let's get on it right fix some stuff yeah i have an iq test pulled up here. I'm going to run through some of these questions to see how we fare. We're just going to do a few.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Okay. You going to participate, Mike? Yeah, I'm in. All right. You've been talking down to us this whole podcast. It's time to put your money where your mouth is. Come on, York, buddy. But I talk down knowing that I don't have intelligence.
Starting point is 01:23:40 So that's what makes me unique. Right. You just explained sarcasm to us. How are we going to do this do this very condescending what number is one quarter of one tenth of one fifth of 200 i mean i could do this it would just take me some time how it would take me easy how do you approach it what number is one quarter of one tenth of one fifth of 200fifth of 200. I would start at 200. I would say one-fifth of that is I have to do the math. 40?
Starting point is 01:24:11 Yeah, that's right. 40. And then one-tenth of that would be four. And then one-quarter of that would be one. There you go. One. There you go. We were all supposed to answer. This wasn't supposed to be group work.
Starting point is 01:24:28 We all did it. We all did it in the time that one smart person could have done it. Alright. Just answer this next one on your own. A palindrome is a word or phrase that is spelled the same written. I didn't explain what a palindrome is. Stets
Starting point is 01:24:43 is a palindrome. That is a palindrome that's true yeah that's an easy one yeah it was easy all right now we start insulting the test makers that was too easy you guys are dumb it's about to get real hard i got bored of this pretty quickly all right but i think we passed okay yeah i think we're all geniuses yeah i think so yeah all right oh we quit the test i got bored of that's the best way i mean it's think we're all geniuses. Yeah, I think so. Are we quit the test? I got bored of it. That's the best way. I mean, it's just we're taking a math test. Yeah, come on. I thought that would be fun. I mean, what are we trying to get in the country?
Starting point is 01:25:14 We took that test on here. We took the immigration test. It's like after question three, they have you do the Pledge of Allegiance and then you're a citizen. We did two questions. We're out of here. Well, that's part of it. The patience and the commitment required.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Yeah. Don't bang your head on the door. Just try a window. Try a window. Yeah. You know, Einstein never officially took a IQ test. I know. I got you know what I love about Einstein's story is that he worked in that patent office
Starting point is 01:25:44 for like 10 years and he wasn that he worked in that patent office for like 10 years. And he wasn't just working in the patent office. He was an accomplished guy, but working in a patent office because he couldn't get a professorship like everybody else. So he worked in the patent office for 10 years while his contemporaries were all at these high level professorships and universities and getting all the glory. He just stayed tried and true. And he would get the patent work done quickly because he's so intelligent so then he would just think about his experiments and and relativity for the rest of the time there's a ton of downtime at his job probably yeah it was time because he got everything done so fast but then but then he married his
Starting point is 01:26:19 cousin and just did he really yeah he married his cousin well that's germany that's common right i mean yeah whatever makes you happy whatever helps you sleep at night and your family german i don't even know i don't know if it was common but he did it he pulled the trigger on it wow yeah it's a different time yeah he was from germany right or austria and yeah and then we brought him over here brought him over during the war uh hello folks to hello fresh yeah i don't want to be here all night, guys. I'm going to read this. With HelloFresh, you get farm-fresh pre-portioned ingredients and seasoned recipes delivered right to your doorstep.
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Starting point is 01:27:17 The HelloFresh app makes it easy to change your delivery day, food preferences, and plan size or skip a week whenever you need to says to share a personal experience okay um i love hello fresh we come home from uh on the road i'm not gonna make my wife you have 184 oh my god that is genius level on any genius level any level 184 is crazy yeah yeah yeah it's kind of like a what a waste being an actor. Yeah, you'd have to solve, like, well, maybe he's a scientist in his spare time. I don't know. I don't know. Some people here that you might believe, some that would surprise you. Sylvester Stallone, 160.
Starting point is 01:27:56 I wrote Rocky, the greatest movie of all time. In three days. Forget that. He wrote it on a napkin. He directed as well? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's all impressive.
Starting point is 01:28:04 That does make sense. And he has that? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's all impressive. That does make sense. And he has that rough exterior. Like, oh, yeah. So he's playing a dumb guy, but he has that IQ of one. I did not know Sylvester Stallone had that, but it makes sense. Didn't he steal that, though, from somebody? That script? Steal a script?
Starting point is 01:28:19 I don't think so. No, no, no. The story is based on Chuck Wepner. Yeah. Who fought Muhammad Ali. know you're it's the story is based on chuck wepner yeah who fought muhammad ali like stallone went to that fight and saw wepner lose badly to ali but never give up right and he got the idea from the movie but that's not i mean all respect to chuck wepner that's wepner's story but that's not he got the inspiration from watching that fight, but that's not Wepner's idea. Does Chuck Wepner, is he mad about it?
Starting point is 01:28:47 He sued Stallone. I mean, years later after the movie, but he sued them. What's your favorite Rocky? What's the order? I think Rocky 1 is the best movie of all time. It's got everything in it. It's endearing. It's funny.
Starting point is 01:29:03 It's emotional. Every scene is uh captivating it's really an unbelievable movie and it's a story it's really not about boxing at all it's about love and about the human spirit about two losers becoming winners yeah you know it's got everything in it yeah if you want to well what's the next? Rank the Rockies. Rocky 1, Rocky 2, Rocky 4, Rocky 3,
Starting point is 01:29:32 and then we're off into... Five. I really have to defend five. Five would have been great without the Tommy Gunn caricature. That whole thing made it bad bad but the fact of him losing all of his money and going back to south philly in the streets and then raising his son like that
Starting point is 01:29:53 would have been if he would just took it they would have just pivoted a little bit and went in another direction that would have been a fantastic movie but it it missed the mark a little bit but i do love the fact that paulie screwed up i love organic things that happen to me paulie's screwing up and losing all of their money and him having to go back to the streets and train fighters and stuff that is a very organic thing that could have happened in the context of the story yeah you like the underdog role kind of yeah i mean he was always an underdog but right i love stuff that where it's like organic in nature and like i hate it i hate it when i'm watching something and something is shoehorned in i can feel it we can all feel it it's like it's it's meant to try to make you feel
Starting point is 01:30:37 a certain emotion but it's not organic to the story it i i drop out as soon as that happens. What about Rocky Balboa? I don't like the fact that he's an upscale restaurateur. That just kind of, I dropped off that. I didn't like that whole movie. Five, I thought was better. And people are like, no, six, they want it back. I got, no, no, no, no. You know what was better in six?
Starting point is 01:31:03 The boxing itself is so much better. In six? As far as the actual looking real? Well, because Antonio Tarver i think if i'm not mistaken is in that movie he's unbelievable he's like a pro but the other rock champion the fighting the way they shoot the camera angle and stuff like that in the in six it looks like a real fight i mean as much as you can with a 60 year old man in well i'm not yeah the 60 year old man stuff like that where it's like you'll accept things about a movie but like a 60 year old man fighting a fight
Starting point is 01:31:30 and being competitive is crazy yeah silly well I agree with you the first one's the best first one is the best I would argue the best movie of all time my favorite movie of all time I've never heard someone say that yeah well you're hearing it here yeah and I respect it as an opinion.
Starting point is 01:31:45 I've just never heard. You hear the movies that are talked about. Godfather. Whatever. Godfather's great. Shawshank Redemption. I get all of it. I get all of it. But for my money, I mean, Rocky has everything.
Starting point is 01:31:58 If you watch the scenes, the scenes are fall down funny. And there's little inside things that are organic to italians and i think south philly like like adrian has to go home and she goes she goes if i don't go home um paulie has to go home and he goes i gotta go if i don't go adrian calls all the hospitals it's a very specific thing but something that yeah that would happen yeah if she didn't make it home there's no cell phones at the time it's like somebody's not home in like 15 minutes like something happened and they start to panic and then they would call all the hospitals it's a very it sounds ridiculous
Starting point is 01:32:34 now but it's a very real niche thing that was a that was a concern like yeah so we wouldn't even know that no what's your favorite scene in that movie? I'm sorry to keep dwelling on this movie, but I got one in mind. This will be Geniuses in parentheses Rocky. Okay. We started doing that for episode titles. I didn't do it. You didn't do it for the last one? I guess it's...
Starting point is 01:32:54 Warren, we can still change it, I guess, right? Georgia, parentheses Regis Philbin. And this one will be... Is that what you want to do? Yeah, because somebody said we should stop calling it something because we barely actually talked about the topic. We should put what they actually talked about in parentheses.
Starting point is 01:33:09 But doesn't that give it away? Doesn't that tilt it too much? I don't know. I want it to be funny, but also get people to actually watch. Sometimes we can go too deep in the weeds. Well, you just have to do it like this one. You guys should write Mike Vecchione gets exposed.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Just say that. And then people were like, oh, yeah, they're exposing him. Yeah. Why Mike Vecchione hates the South. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hill folk turn against Yankee.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Yeah. Yankee gets slammed tail between his legs. Yeah. Well, that'll be in the show description, but not in the title. I'll write that. Yeah. Well, that'll be in the show description but not in the title. I'll sort that. Civil War Part 2. All right. My favorite scene in Rocky
Starting point is 01:33:49 is when Mickey goes when he gets the fight and Mickey goes to him kind of tail between his legs kind of asking him to manage him and it's such a powerful scene because he's the guy
Starting point is 01:34:00 who's down on his luck too and never made it. Right. And it's just it's a powerful scene it is a powerful scene i agree with you and it's good to know that you have a heart bait so i was starting to wonder a couple hours into this podcast i know it all comes out when nate's not here my favorite is uh and this is a niche one but it's when he's in the car with the loan shark
Starting point is 01:34:20 and the loan shark's driver um tells him adrian to go to the zoo take her to the zoo she's slow take her to the zoo yeah they like the zoo yeah and rock you're a little ill aaron that was great and as and he goes back he's like arguing with the guy back and forth and um finally the mob guy he goes all right stop the like arguing with the guy back and forth. And finally, the mob guy, he goes, all right, stop the arguing. Takes Rocky outside. And he goes, buddy, don't like you. And Rocky goes, yeah. And he goes, some guys hate for no reason.
Starting point is 01:34:57 That's such a great. It's such a great scene. Did you never hear that today? Everybody's always. Some guys hate for no reason. It's just such a funny thing to say yeah and uh and and he talks to rocky always he was always very supportive of rocky but that was my favorite scene he's like take it to the zoo they like the zoo and he's
Starting point is 01:35:17 like does that guy gotta say that does he gotta say that and he's like and they're just going back and forth and he's like some guys hate for no reason. Yeah. That's a great thing. That's a great one. All right. So mother celebrities with really high cues, Reggie Jackson. Oh, wow. Okay. 160. The baseball player.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Quentin Tarantino. Yeah. That's surprising, buddy. It makes sense. Matt Damon.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Matt Damon seems like he's smart. Conan O'Brien. Well, Conan. Matt Damon's a genius and wrote a movie about himself being a genius i don't know if he's a genius but it says 160 is that the best 60 is pretty high it is yeah have you ever taken an official iq test or anything my mom told me what mine was when i was young oh really yeah go ahead uh is this going to be mike vecchione reveals how dumb he is yeah was it triple digits yeah it was it was uh to be honest it was 119 119 is great yeah i mean that's functional functional yeah i'm a functional member of society with 119 all right i love this
Starting point is 01:36:19 guy i was looking up some child prodigies mozart of course. Bobby Fischer. Michael Kearney. Michael Kearney graduated high school at age six. He lived in California. His family moved to Alabama. There you go. Age of eight, he enrolled at the University of South Alabama. In Mobile, Alabama. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Now, you would say, well, that's easy. So it was the Guinness Book of World Records for youngest graduate at the age of 10. Wow. Age of 14, he obtained a master's degree in chemistry from my alma mater, Middle Tennessee State University. Wow. Age 18, he obtained his master's degree in computer science at Vanderbilt University, Nate's pretend alma mater. And then, you guys want to know what he's doing now? What is he doing?
Starting point is 01:37:03 Is he a comedian? Improv in Nashville. Are you kidding me? Up until recently. I don't know if he still is or not the last thing i could find on he was working for like nashville improv wow whoa what's his name michael kearney i looked him up on facebook we had two mutual friends went on well i don't want to go too far i guess yeah who the person was but i asked this person about him and he knew him. Wow. So that's the smartest guy in the world.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Do improv. Well, he's got that chemistry background to fall back. I mean, maybe can work chemistry into his improv. Be like corporate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:37:46 So what is the, what do you guys, what's your favorite movie about a genius? I can list some here if you don't remember i mean to me it's goodwill hunting goodwill hunting was pretty great as a janitor who used to do high level math at a harvard university i have to say that was my favorite yeah mit right and his friends his friends were like knuckle-dragger types. You have some phrases and terms that we don't know. Great slang. Yeah. One thing from that movie that came from real life, Matt Damon's brother, Kyle, was- Kyle Damon? I guess.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Was visiting a physicist at the MIT campus and came across an equation on a hallway chalkboard. at the MIT campus and came across an equation on a hallway chalkboard. He, the brother decided to complete the equation with totally fake numbers
Starting point is 01:38:30 and the masterpiece remained untouched for months because everybody was like, I think this might be real or whatever. So that's where he got the inspiration
Starting point is 01:38:38 for that scene. Yeah. I thought it was interesting. That is very interesting because, you know, a really dumb person would just write graffiti yeah under it or like draw something that we can't talk about yeah we can't talk about on this podcast but it's something vulgar on there yeah but this guy actually fake solved the problem yeah a beautiful mind guessing that yeah another great another great film ron howard yeah it was a ron howard film i think yeah he won an oscar for it okay yeah what's the one you weren't asking as a question okay what's the one on netflix i'm thinking about russell crowe's got
Starting point is 01:39:17 you don't even know the film how about queen's gambit have you seen that one yeah that was a television show. We're talking about movies, and we're going to move into television shows in a few minutes. So hold your horses. Way to backhand me back into my place. We got two hours left of this podcast. You could just slow down. We're doing a Guinness Book of World Records
Starting point is 01:39:39 podcast. I think I've only seen A Beautiful Mind once, but I remember the scene at the end where the faculty leaves the pen right for him yeah yeah uh according to princeton that's all made up what kind of fades as to where it how it ends it's like uh spoiler alert if you haven't watched but it's like he's delusional right so it's like all the people get together at the end and they kind of smile at him or something i kind of lost feels a little dismissive of a legitimate mental all right well that's what that's exactly the way i meant it and you worked in special education yes so live with it or don't
Starting point is 01:40:15 it turns out john nash bit of an airhead my fault my fault guys no disrespect no disrespect he's schizophrenic or whatever yeah but um no like i think like the uh illusions of the people um like kind of waving to him or was i don't know i kind of lost interest during the end it kind of petered out for me oh yeah the last scene of the movie yeah like towards the end I was like, what is this guy's thing? Is he really seeing things? Are the people really there? And then they just kind of like I don't know, there was no
Starting point is 01:40:52 big ending for me kind of there. See, I was trying to protect Ron Howard because I knew he didn't like it. I go after Ron Howard. Well, the real story is he thought people were communicating to him through magazines and newspapers. Right.
Starting point is 01:41:07 They're not? It's called advertising, Aaron. What are you, delusional? But obviously on film, it plays a little better if he visually thinks that there are people around him. But the real story is a lot less dramatic. But there was some of that in the movie, wasn't there? Like clippings or something a little bit but in the movie it's like he has a roommate who's not real and then like all this other people just walking like even at the end years later he's getting the nobel prize and there's you know people that aren't real and
Starting point is 01:41:39 right and that's all kind of that's hollywood oh you know what i think was a better version of that movie is uh and i don't know if this guy was a genius, but the Joker. I thought the Joker was an unbelievable, it blew me away with how good it was. I thought it was so good. I think it's just Joker. Oh, I'm sorry, Bates. It's not called the Joker. Different movie.
Starting point is 01:42:03 Joker was unbelievable. I thought so too it's amazing after the other Joker version I'm drawing a blank on Jared Leto no the Oscar winning Joaquin Phoenix no the one who died Keith Ledger's version
Starting point is 01:42:20 that Joaquin Phoenix would do another version that's incredible but the other version wasn't all about the joker as a batman right right okay so this one's all about the joker yeah yeah and he was great in the dark knight but um this one is just the story i mean the acting was brilliant unbelievable but the story was just when i talk about like it's organic and a guy like first of all set in the 80s so none of uh what we're doing now applies to society what people think so that's the biggest part that they figured out and then his his um background
Starting point is 01:42:52 and how he became the joker was just unbelievable what a great story sam morel was incredible you knew a bunch of people in that movie right sam well now it's time to name drop sam gary gallman was in it yeah it was uh greer barnes yeah oh yeah fantastic just a classic and i think it's like because you think the joke or joker i'm sorry i keep saying the joke yeah but it's like a marvel i don't know if it's a marvel i'm not a comic book guy so dc yeah dc world you're like oh this is going to be fake and just all kinds of whatever but it couldn't have been more uh it couldn't have been better done than it was yeah it was unbelievable to the point where never felt silly never felt silly really a guy could really like lose it and spiral that way
Starting point is 01:43:42 yeah and that and and like de niro's character like making fun of him was it was fantastic marin was also marin was great in it mark man and uh just and they left all the the graphic sometimes it's like oh why does this need to be this graphic but they left that in and i think that helped that helped the story also i agree i thought i thought it was great this is a hilarious list we've compiled yeah and we're going a little bit we're gonna brush past mozart and bobby fish yeah yeah because we're like i'm not at that level so i have to bring it back to my level right well i do that's why you relate more to him than Mozart. Yes. Yeah, me too. Some of the movies, Social Network. I mean, it's not really about.
Starting point is 01:44:29 I mean, it is about a genius, but it's not. But, I mean, I guess. What's his IQ, I wonder? Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg and lower or higher than his net worth in billions? That's an interesting question. I'll say lower. Lower.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Yeah, lower. What's he worth? 140 billion or something? Well, I'll say lower. Lower. Yeah, lower. What's he worth? 140 billion or something? Well, I'll say higher. I think his IQ is around 160. Probably. Net worth is coming in at a disappointing 101 billion.
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Starting point is 01:46:25 there's a lot of organic yes um yeah i love that movie all right it's queen's gambit that's based on a real person i believe right is it i mean there was a lot of liberties taken but there is a young girl who's a chess prodigy and i think she became a grandmaster at maybe 10 or something oh who's that what's her name i forgot miss gambit no she had um but i like the part of the movie where she's like in like you're what you were saying it comes at an immense personal cost because your mental health starts to spiral out of control yeah like she would lay in her bed and like see the chess pieces moving all over the place that's how they made it. But we do that with jokes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:06 That's not crazy. I'm a genius. I'll do that with my act, dude. McDonald's, Mayweather over here. Goodwill. Blindfolded chess is illegal in a lot of places now. Why is that? Because it hurts people because
Starting point is 01:47:28 it's so mentally exhausting that it's actually dangerous to your brain to your brain wow because all these people blindfold and they'll play multiple games of chess at once they'll play like 20 30 games blindfolded and that's illegal in some countries now. It's pretty crazy. And when you do that, you just tell the person, move this or that. Pawn to E5. And then you visualize it in your head. And then you remember multiple boards. And you play all these games simultaneously.
Starting point is 01:47:57 And you said it's illegal. And I have a joke for that. Because you get arrested and put in jail where you play checkers. You have to play dominoes the rest of your life. Oh, no. you get arrested and put in jail where you play checkers playing a dumber man's game is uh andy defring from shawshank redemption would you consider him a genius no just a smart guy yeah just a smart guy a smart guy and a good guy that's the point he's uh his goodness you know i've cast all of us not you mike sorry but i've cast the regular Yeah, just a smart guy. A smart guy and a good guy. That's the point. He's goodness. I've cast all of us. Not you, Mike. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:48:27 But I've cast the regular members of Nate Lamb Podcast. We could cast you. No, go ahead. No, do the regulars. But go ahead. I'm sorry. Well, hold your thought, please. You would be Andy, Aaron.
Starting point is 01:48:42 Oh, about Shawshank? Yeah. Oh, thanks. You'd be Andy. I mean, the smart guy in the group that, you know. I would be Brooks. The old guy who can't make it on the outside world. Institutionalized.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Yeah. I think Dusty would be Red, Morgan Freeman's character. Okay. I don't know. I didn't have a great one for him, but wise in his own way. He's got his own. He knows the streets, so to speak. And then Nate would either be Tommy, the guy who can't read very well, but Andy helps out. I help Nate get his GED.
Starting point is 01:49:17 He could also be the warden because he oversees everything. And when you throw out obtuse, he doesn't like big words. Any response with violence? Yeah. That's great. So I've thought about this. Wow. I can't share it on this podcast with Nate here because he hasn't seen the movie.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Sure. But you guys have. The biggest compliment to Aaron, though, is that he's Andy. Because Andy, his biggest quality is that first night when they bet, they all bet that who was going to cry. Like someone always ends up crying. Yeah. They heard nothing from his cell.
Starting point is 01:49:52 He was like, just quiet. And then, and then he was like, it set the tone for him being poised. His first night in the joint. Andy cost me three packs of cigarettes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:03 That movie is unreal. I think Andyy i'll just to get off brand here right at the end i think i think that whole movie's a metaphor for jesus wow i did not see that coming i think i don't even know i don't think stephen king intended to be that way but i think it's like a near perfect i bet does he agree this. Allegory for an innocent man comes into a world of sinners and says, if you have hope, you can be with me in paradise later. And he leaves and then Red meets him there. I think it's a pretty perfect metaphor. But are you thinking what I'm thinking? What's that?
Starting point is 01:50:37 It should be Shawshank 2 where Rocky goes to that jail and he punches your hero, Andy Dufresne, in the face so many times and that he gets paroled to a hospital? Well, you're onto something. They could do a sequel where Andy gets caught. Yeah. They extradite him back to America. That's my way of saying Shawshank doesn't beat Rocky. Okay?
Starting point is 01:51:01 Okay. Well, that's fine. Can I ask your favorite scene in Shawshank? It's got to be the scene where they have the beers on the roof. Oh, that's a feel-good scene. Yeah, that's unbelievable scene. It's a great scene. Mine is...
Starting point is 01:51:16 For one little moment. Yeah. Every last man in Shawshank fell free. You're good. Come on, dude. Mine's favorite is when he gets out of the hole after he he plays the mozart i think it was mozart the records they throw him in the hole for a month yeah and he comes out and at lunch and he tells them it's the easiest time you ever serve yeah
Starting point is 01:51:37 and because i hope yeah and he and red have that haven't you ever felt that way about music yeah yeah i played a mean harmonica as a harmonica didn't make much sense in here though yours sounds a little bit like here's where it makes the most sense yeah yeah my favorite is uh when brooks is working at the grocery store and he goes boss can i go to the bathroom and he goes you don't gotta ask me to go to the bathroom you can just go 40 years i think that's red it wasn't that wasn't brooks i think that was morgan freeman that was morgan freeman's character yeah no brooks was working at the grocery store they both were yes they both worked the same job bagging bagging groceries no but didn't brooks have to go to the bathroom or was red asked to go to the bathroom
Starting point is 01:52:19 yeah my memory uh you've even seen shawshank there was the old man the lady was getting mad at him because it wasn't bagging the groceries right double bag you double bag i love that whole shit i surely will i apologize you know i'm looking to do a new uh podcast and my idea for a podcast is that sometimes you'll see an older man working at like a mcdonald's and we're bagging groceries or something at like your public's trying to make it so that you guys feel comfortable. So that a guy, I don't want to hear what celebrities really have to say because I get it, but it's like that guy I want to hear, especially if he's not just working there as a, for fun, which I think that's a lie. Many of those guys are not
Starting point is 01:53:03 working there for fun. so how are you here working in this job you're 80 and you're working this job that's a podcast like me asking them why or anybody asking them what transpired in your there's got to be some kind of a gambling problem triple divorce like there's got to be a bunch of good stuff in there to get you to that i think it's going to be it's going to be on you to bring some levity to that because that does sound sounds pretty dark no that's part of my probation i mean it's just life you know what i mean like we all go through it we all make different choices whatever and it's like ah i took my shot and now i bag groceries at a public so what it's like i had a boy who could have just had a blast right and now it's like I had a blast. It could have just had a blast. Right. And now it's like, I'm here and I'll figure it out.
Starting point is 01:53:45 It's a gambit. Yeah. The Queen's Gambit. Yeah. All right. Was there any other shows we want to talk about? About geniuses? That's the one I can think of.
Starting point is 01:53:55 You know, yeah. Suits is making a bit of a comeback. The movie Suits. Oh, you were just talking about Suits. I was just talking about Suits. On the podcast? Downstairs. Well, I mean, it's being pushed on me by-
Starting point is 01:54:04 I thought you were talked about it just now talking about wow i zoned out i was talking to laura about it about how i'm watching suits now because it's been netflix does this thing where they bully you until you just do what they want you to do right and they did that and now i'm watching suits and now i can't stop watching suits i never watched the big bang theory i know it's about geniuses but i never watched it i've watched i've watched i i get why people like it it's very funny yeah you know i get it i i can't sit through the i'm i'm not into the sitcom thing but uh but no like uh it's good um but i thought the office like that i think the office that was the last wave of sitcoms where I was like, I got to, this is gut laugh funny.
Starting point is 01:54:46 Right. 30 Rock. And then The Office was like, I think the last. Parks and Rec? Parks and Rec I never really got into, but it was not written in that same tone. Same. It's like sharp, great jokes, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:59 There was a movie with Bradley Cooper. Bradley Cooper. Limitlessless and I think they made it also I love that well yeah well is that's what he took a pill right yeah the pill I the movie I mean Bradley Cooper is great and the idea of the movie it got a little muddled as the movie went on yeah it got muddled the story but I love the idea of being able to see you like the beginning of a lot of movies not the end I think fight I think you're just falling able to take a pill you like the beginning of a lot of movies but not the end of it I think you're just falling asleep during these movies no I don't like the beginning
Starting point is 01:55:29 beautiful mind was great until I fell asleep and I woke up and I was like you're winning a Nobel Prize what is this all about but Limitless is not a genius it's all about just him unlocking the 100% of his brain with a a pill with a pill
Starting point is 01:55:46 with a pill he was a smart guy and they they make a point to mention that in the movie the drug dealer says it works better when you're already smart right but he's not a genius yeah so but it opens his mind up and it changes his life yeah he actually becomes the man even with his his girlfriend breaks up with him because he's not living up to his potential. And then she sees him, they get together for dinner, and he's speaking Italian to the maitre d' and the waitress. And she's blown away with how he's maximized himself. Do you watch Seinfeld? Love Seinfeld.
Starting point is 01:56:16 The George Costanza, when he became super smart. Do you remember that? Yeah, yeah. That was a great episode. It's a funny point they're trying to make his girlfriend has like mono or something so
Starting point is 01:56:27 he knows you're not gonna be able to have sex for like a few weeks or whatever and now that he's not focused on sex but the point is that's all men focus on he becomes a genius
Starting point is 01:56:36 because his mind where Elaine it was the opposite for her I forgot what happened but she gets really dumb right and he's genius so it's a genius premise for the episode yeah It was the opposite for her. I forgot what happened. Right. She gets really dumb. Right. It was genius.
Starting point is 01:56:48 Such a genius premise. Such a genius premise. Yeah. Absolutely. Have you seen Phenomenon? No. No. With... Man, I think I'm having something going on right now with my brain.
Starting point is 01:56:59 You've been playing blindfolded chess? I don't know what is going on. John Travolta. But in that he sees um like a a light in the sky maybe an alien or whatever and it comes down and and beams him and then he passes out and then he becomes unbelievably smart so everyone thinks the aliens like came and did something to him to make him a super genius right turns out he was having like an aneurysm and that was what he was seeing, but it opened his brain to use all the parts of the brain you don't normally use.
Starting point is 01:57:28 I got to watch Phenomenon. I love stories like that. I really love Limitless. I love the stories like- Somebody suddenly becoming- Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fun. I like somebody doing that.
Starting point is 01:57:36 That's a good time. Yeah. All right. All right. We did it, Mike. Thank you for stopping by. Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 01:57:43 I had a really good time. We did it. We're going to be back this weekend. This comes out next week. Thank you for stopping by. Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate you guys. I had a really good time. We did it. We're going to be at this weekend. This comes out next week. This comes out next week. We can look it up. Oh, Comedy Mothership in Austin. Oh, amazing.
Starting point is 01:57:52 Oh, wow. Comedy Mothership in Austin. So if you're in Austin, come see me. Do you know what night that is? Do I know what? What night? Or all weekend? No, it's Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Comedy Mothership. Oh, awesome. Yeah. Mike Vecchione.com for dates. Are we on Comedy Mothership. Oh, awesome. Yeah, mikeveccione.com for dates. Are we doing plugs now? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, mikeveccione.com for dates.
Starting point is 01:58:10 I have a bunch of dates on the road and all over the place. So please come and see me on the road at Comic Mike V. I don't have a podcast anymore, so please follow me at Comic Mike V on all social media platforms. Do you know which room you're in? The Fat Man, dude. The Fat Man. You already sold out the Friday show.
Starting point is 01:58:30 Get these tickets while you can, ladies and gentlemen. Friday and Saturday, September 29th and 30th. That's awesome. Have you been to that club yet? Yeah, when I did Rogan, I did. And it's fantastic. It's a fantastic room. I can't wait to do it.
Starting point is 01:58:45 Awesome. I'm psyched. At Comic Mike V. I'm sorry I keep driving at home,, I did it. And it's fantastic. It's a fantastic room. I can't wait. I can't wait to do it. Awesome. I'm psyched. At Comic Mike V. I'm sorry I keep driving at home, but I need followers and I need to sell tickets on the road. And we're all, we're all, I know you guys do the podcast all the time and you're part of it, but we're all great comics. So please come and watch us on the road.
Starting point is 01:59:01 So at Comic Mike V. Thank you guys. Thanks for having me. This Saturday. It was really sweet. Yeah, it was. Was that sincere or was that sarcastic? No, that's sincere. us on the road so um at comic mike v thank you guys thanks for having me this saturday really sweet yeah it was was that sincere or was that sarcastic no that's sincere like i even after my set like i'm uh sarcastic in my set really heavy and um condescending to the crowd right and then at the end i'm because i'm really very appreciative of them being there and grateful. So, yeah, so I, um, yeah, I tell them that I,
Starting point is 01:59:27 I thank them genuinely. Thank them. Yeah. So, uh, this Saturday I'm in Wilmington, Ohio at the Murphy theater Sunday. I'm in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 01:59:37 First time at helium comedy. Whoa. Awesome. Yeah. Time, man. You're gonna watch Rocky. I mean,
Starting point is 01:59:43 I've never been to the steps. I've never, I've never been to Philly movies uh that's awesome dude yeah 4 30 show so watch the eagles play then run over to my show what time is the eagles game at one so it'll be over it'll be over at four probably right at four yeah and then right to eight. Mad Dash. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Tomorrow night, Thursday, September 28th. I'm in Ketchikan, Alaska at the Creek Street Cabaret. Nice. Never been up there before. Pretty excited about it.
Starting point is 02:00:14 Then this weekend, I'm in Seattle at Hereafter Crocodile. Come on out next week. Wise guys. Just come on out. We got we got great shows. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Take it home aaron all right that's it thank you we love you none of this is lost on us we love you so much and uh yeah
Starting point is 02:00:36 bye nateland is produced by nateland productions and by me nate bargetzi and my wife laura on the audio boom platform recording and editing for the show is done by genovations media thanks for tuning in be sure to catch us next week on the Nateland podcast.

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