The Nateland Podcast - #20 Malls

Episode Date: November 11, 2020

This episode, we delve into shopping malls. We discuss our favorite malls, share mall stories from our youth, look at the future of malls, and much, much, more.   Podcast produced by Nate & Laura Bargatze Recording & Editing by Genovations Media https://www.natebargatze.com https://www.allthingscomedy.com https://www.genovationsmedia.com Email - [e-mail]

Hey, I'm Jillian. And I'm Patrick. And together we make the podcast True Crime Obsessed. If you love documentaries the way we love documentaries, you might be interested in our show because we recap all the documentaries that you're watching. We've covered just about every true crime case you can imagine. We're talking the Hatchet Wielding Hitchhiker,

the Ted Bundy tapes. What else? The Turpin 13. Yes. The amazing sisters who basically tell the story. The girl in the picture. Yes. All the documentaries you love to talk about with your friends. We're your friends now. We're the friends you talk about that stuff with. Yes. With the amazing sisters who basically tell the story, the girl in the picture. Yes. All the documentaries you love to talk about with your friends. We're your friends now.

We're the friends you talk about that stuff with. Yeah. We're True Crime Obsessed Podcast, Stitcher's on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Nateland podcast. I am Nate. Sitting here with Aaron Weber, Brian Bates. Hello, folks. Welcome to... All right.

I don't know. You know, the rhythm's not there. Helix. Hey, I'm Jillian. And I'm Patrick. And together we make the podcast True Crime Obsessed. If you love documentaries the way we love documentaries, you might be interested in our show

because we recap all the documentaries that you're watching. We've covered just about every true crime case you can imagine. We're talking the Hatchet-Wielding Hitchhiker, the Ted Bundy tapes. What else? The Turpin 13. Yes. The amazing sisters who basically tell the story. The're talking the Hatchet-Wielding Hitchhiker, the Ted Bundy tapes. What else? The Turpin 13. Yes. With the amazing sisters

who basically tell the story. The girl in the picture. Yes. All the documentaries you love to talk about with your friends. We're your friends now. We're the friends you talk about that stuff with. Yeah.

We're True Crime Obsessed Podcast. Stitch us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. Thank you guys for listening. As always, we're excited for you to be here. And we're going to, let's just get into it i'd like to get i get get right into it i've noticed a lot with zoom

interviews on uh if you watch anything on tv with a zoom interview uh they need to get rid of thanks for coming thank you just get rid of it you ever see in the interviews just they should say the producer should say hey he might say thanks for coming because obviously he should whoever's the host of the show and you just nod yes because it's always a delay like it always goes he goes and we're gonna talk to this person uh to aaron thanks for coming then there a delete. And then right then the person starts to think, so when did you? Thank you for having me. Just clunky. Yeah. Do it.

Do it and ask me a question. Like say. Nate, what do you feel like? No, no. Just say we're going to interview Nate and then I'll show you how they do it. Well, today we have Nate Bargatze as our guest. Nate, thanks for coming. I'd like to ask you your thoughts.

Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here. I'd like to uh ask you your thoughts thanks for having me thanks for being here i'd like to ask you uh your thoughts on this week's masters uh thanks for coming thanks for having me and that's what it is i mean it's just multiple out of the gate like and you're watching it like oh just everybody please quit Please. There's no need to. Then when they leave, all right, thanks for coming. I mean, there's a good three seconds, which is valuable TV time. Just thanks for coming.

Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming. Satellite interviews can be like that too. And you mentioned once, you got to cut out the small chit chat yeah have long answers or not at all yeah just get into it you know dan patrick always does which i'm an enormous dan patrick fan dan patrick was always very good at talking and just you know he'd be like the person's on the line and they answer and he goes oh and this this guy you know uh reggie miller with the nba he's been long friend

of ours reggie they were i was thinking about why are they you know why is lebron james going to los angeles like like he just starts with the question and the people that are on the show a lot know it but the new people that they're he'll just i mean full-on questions asked you know hey do you think the titans have a really good uh chance to get the Super Bowl this year? I mean, how are they feeling down there? Dan, thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. And you're like, just go with it, dude.

But it's a very nice thing because it's where everybody's being polite. But unless you're in the room, if you're in the room, you can do it. If you're on zoom or something like that gotta get rid of it yeah gotta get rid of it uh all right uh kurt first uh comment comments from are there from youtube instagram twitter apple podcast uh reviews and nateland at natebargetzi.com you can email us any of those uh curtiskins, Nate, Aaron, and Battleship. You guys give me a true escape from the world's ugly noise, and I look forward to it every Wednesday.

Thank you. Quick weird question. Do you guys swear outside of work? Bates has got a bit of a mouth on me. That's a problem. I try not to. I mean, you know, my mom's listening, so no, I don't ever. But no, I don't think, not really.

No one does. I mean, I'm sure sometimes you can get around some comics. If you get around New York comics, it kind of feels like you're, you know, like a sailor just getting back with it. But, yeah, you try. That's a big thing. If anyone wants to start comedy, you want to be a clean comedian, first thing that you can do every day, do not swear in regular life.

If you want to get rid of swearing in your act, if you're a comic, quit swearing in regular life. I would almost say even if you do want to swear in your act, you should still try to not do it in regular life. There's little things that I try not to do as in regular, like I like, I say like all the time. And like, like, you know, and I've tried to consciously

in the past month, I've kind of just started trying to not do it. And I still do it. I can't not. It's very hard to do. It takes a long time, but you should practice it in your regular speech. Chris Radcliffe.

Hello, host. Nate, your rant on celebrities and voting was spot on. Whenever a celebrity talks about voting, I literally have the same rant in my head. It's unbelievable. Radcliffe gets it. I like him. Yeah. I was worried about saying that.

After I said it, I was like, I don't know. Especially people going to care. It's yelling about something. But it is true. There are celebrities are the worst. Nat, when celebrities urge people to vote and describe the process, they aren't assuming people are dumb. They are trying to normalize it and convince people how important it is because so many people are ambivalent. God, he did that on purpose. God, that was a lot.

He did that on purpose. Nat, you're probably innate. And you threw me under the, I mean, that was a, he got that one in there real good. Oh, yeah. Ambivalent? Ambivalent. Ambivalent. I know that word.

Yeah. I don't know the word that I was saying. When I said ambivalent, I was like, well, that's, I mean, this guy, what are you, the smartest? No, what's the i said ambivalent i was like well that's i mean this guy what are you the smartest no what's the word ambivalent oh i don't really know what it means but i've heard it uh what does it mean it means like don't care one way the other okay yeah that's not a very that's not a good word for the meaning of don't care one way or another that's you know it's a very hard word for it to just be like it doesn't really matter man that's what the meaning of don't care one way or another. That's, you know, it's a very hard word for it to just be like, it doesn't really matter, man.

That's what the meaning is. Is that not kind of crazy? Yeah, it is crazy. Why would that word be so ridiculous? Right. It's like abbreviations, a very long word to describe something. Yeah. That's short.

To go, what is that? Short and stuff. Well, that's stupid. And they go, well, yeah, I know. Holly Carter. I was kind of nervous when I saw that you all were talking about a potentially controversial topic this week, yet in typical Nate Land fashion.

You all opened with the McDonald's hot coffee lawsuit and then proceeded to talk about daylight savings. Absolutely perfect. Yeah. Thank you, Holly. That's what we do. We get you into going, oh, where's this going to go? And I promise it's going nowhere.

I think if we talked about voting, I did one like old elections. I guarantee I could talk about it and never talk about this one. Right. Just because it's fun. I looked up like landslide. I was like one day looking at it. Reagan won some big ones. Yeah, he won all but one state. I can remember that remember that yeah he went all the way that's crazy did nixon do that too nixon won 49 states i don't know

uh yeah that that stuff's kind of like if someone just domination yeah it's hard to imagine that much of the country agreeing on yeah you You know? Yeah. It feels weird. Different time. Yeah. Dan Wood. Until this episode, I still thought the McDonnell lawsuit was silly. The more you know. That's true.

I mean, how many people think that still? Yeah. I thought it was too. I thought it was too. And then that, it makes sense. Ryan Cotton. You guys got to stop playing with the paper so much. Aaron and Nate, you don't so much. Aaron and Nate,

you don't even read. Aaron and Nate, you don't even read. Then you just make sure they are consistently straight. Quaker Oats isn't so bad. Well, now we got Quaker Oats has papers. I know.

That's because he didn't have papers, but now he does. You're going to see how fun this kind of is, but I'll get rid of them. I'll throw them away. I'll throw them. Just open that window. That'll be part of the segment is when we're done,

we open the window and I throw them out of my backyard. I litter in my backyard. Catherine Klein. That's a good name. Catherine Klein. I wonder if that's her name or if she married into it. She married into it. She did real good.

She could have chose the guy for the name. Catherine Klein. Is that not a good name? Yeah. It's an alliteration. Feels good. Catherine Klein. Who's Catherine Klein?

You'd be like, oh. You don't even know what she does. And if she walked in, you'd be like. You'd kind of straighten up a little bit. How you doing? This is Miss Catherine Klein. Wow. Nice to meet you.

I've heard a lot about you. Nate asking beef stick questions about daylight savings was like watching Michael Scott ask Pam landlord what she does with the checks. That's so funny. What was that one? It's when he went on the blind date with Pam's landlord. He's so disappointed. He's like, all right, what do you do when you collect the rent?

And she's like, you want me to tell you what I do with the money? He's like, look, I'm just trying to make conversation. Like it was her fault. Yeah. That was a very good episode. Isn't that where he goes, it was like talking to the sweet old lady on the bus. That's incredibly rude. That's incredibly rude. That's incredibly rude.

Yeah, she nailed that analogy. That is a great one. That's like when his wife, or when he's dating Pam's mom, finds out how old she is. That's another. Just him just doing the math in his head of going, well, I still want to do stuff. I want to hike.

I mean, stuff that you can't do. of going, well, I still want to do stuff. I want to hike. I mean, stuff that you can't do. Joshua Tencher. Hello, folks. Hello, Nate, Aaron, and Buford.

My dog man story. This is... Kevin, this is all he's been waiting for. Yeah. He's going to love this. My dog man story. In 2006 in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, me, my brother brother and two friends

were walking the back of an unfinished neighborhood in the black man community black black man that sounds much better than that man i mean that sounds you're like where's this yeah i was like oh my god that's crazy unfinished neighborhood in the black man community. Like, oh, what is this podcast? That's, I mean, that's crap. How you say that is super important. That's a very important, I should have got some heads up. I should have been briefed before we got to that one. Black men count.

Yeah. That's a community. That sounds so much count. Yeah. That's not community. That sounds so much better. Yeah. In the back of an unfinished neighborhood in the black men community, and my friend noticed a huge, oddly shaped dog on all fours walking at a normal pace. When my friend drew our attention to it, I was so astonished and curious. I tried to get closer to it it but it got up on two feet and went into a full sprint i tried to chase it but it disappeared in some nearby woods

we joked around about it to this day but never really told other people because we know how crazy it sounded love the podcast can't get enough god bless bless. Well, Joshua Tensher, you're about to have someone reach out to you. Uh, that's, yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, that's what he's been wanting.

He said, I bet there's going to be people in the comment. There you go. Yeah. Anybody else got a dogman story? Let us know. That's super fun. Hmm.

Got up on two. That one. You can't, you can't say dogman for that one. Dogman. Dogman. You just said dogman. That's what sent me in the direction okay right dog man sent me into you know in the black man community uh it's kind of a sweet moment when somebody opens up about stories like this because they're like they know it's a judgment free zone.

We don't care. I love it. I hope you're right. You're going to see something. You saw it. What did they find out? They're like, we were pretty drunk. Oh, okay. That makes sense. To go up on two feet and run in a full sprint.

That's crazy. He said he tried to chase it. I mean, this guy's insane. Yeah. He ran after it. In the Blackman community, they're running in some woods, man. That's what they do. They're not scared. I mean, you ever see, there's a video of a,

I just saw some gigantic snake in wherever, some other country. Amazon. Yeah. I don't know. And a guy's pulling it in the boat. The guy's trying to pull it in the boat. I mean, this snake is 100 feet long. He just grabs it like it's a gardener snake.

I mean, there's just guys that are like that. Yeah. They just don't care. And Joshua is one. I mean, to chase it. That's what we need, though, for the Bigfoot people.

We need people like that to run after something like that. Wow. David Ramsey. Is it Dave Ramsey? I doubt it. Maybe he just doesn't want,

this is enough to throw you off. Based on the first sentence, I don't think so. David Ramsey. I was born in the 70s. I remember my dad buying several different cars. Yeah, that's not David.

And the first thing he did was literally cut the seatbelts out of them. He didn't just push them into the seat. He cut them out and disabled the buzzer sound. We weren't big on safety in our house. That is not Dave. That's like a sentence if you said, prove you're not Dave Ramsey. And he goes, okay. And then he makes that sentence. our house that is not dave that's like a sentence if you said prove you're not dave ramsey and he goes okay and then he makes that sentence if people are listening and they i think a lot of

people know dave ramsey's uh financial guy better than i deserve isn't that what he says i'm doing better than yeah better than i deserve yeah uh started golfing too a little bit uh from whatever what i've heard but he uh i moved him once too when i moved people uh a couple days ago but they he did uh they a lot of people don't know if they don't know david that's all that's all the same it's who he is he's a big financial guy he's been around he's national but i think he's everywhere right yeah yeah he's he's syndicated talks about he's my favorite calls or people when they call into him and they say because they call in and they go uh their problems are all the same where they don't have money we need help with money and he goes all right so what what's the situation is like i've got five credit cards on two boats you know yeah so how much money do you make he's like, I've got five credit cards on two boats.

You know? Yeah. He's like, how much money do you make? He's like, we're not, I mean, we don't, I work part time.

And you're like, and he just has to sit. All right, here we go. And then he, I mean, every advice is the same. I mean,

some people are calling about real, I'm trying to buy my first house or whatever. And he, I mean, you're not going to, if you call, you're not going to have fun.

His answers are never fun. Yeah. He's very anti-credit card, right? Yeah. Oh yeah. Isn't that you're not going to have fun. His answers are never fun. Yeah. He's very anti credit card, right? Yeah. Oh yeah. Big things. Yeah.

Cut them up. Cut them. He's a cut them up. Oh yeah. People cut them. People call in and cut them up. I see. I'm on a theatrical.

Why can't you just throw it away? Cause it's the, the point of it is you were, you, okay. It's like a symbolic thing ruled you, this credit card. You know,

you've been, you bought all this stuff. You've been paying it off. Oh, you cut it off when you symbolic. This thing ruled you, this credit card. You bought all this stuff. You've been paying it off forever. Oh, you cut it off when you're done paying it off the card. Yeah, yeah. And then you go, I'm debt-free. You want to be debt-free is the main thing. It's not a bad thing to be. But it's definitely not a – I mean, you're not calling it that.

You don't call it a Dave Ramsey to him to go, go have fun. I mean, no answer is fun. You could call him to go, go have fun. Yeah. I mean, no answer is fun. You could call in and go, I have $1 billion. And he'd be like, you should get rid of your credit cards. You don't need them. And you'd be like, well, I just have a billion dollars. You don't cut yours up when you throw them away? I don't know if I've ever thrown one away.

You just got them. I'm on my first ever credit card. It's a good time. Yeah. You just got them. I'm on my first ever credit card. It's a good time. You know? Yeah, you just haven't had. You just got it now. I got one two years ago. I've had a debit card, but a credit card is my favorite.

Yeah. A couple years. Yeah. Do you remember your first credit card? I think so. Yeah. I mean, I remember paying by check. Check was a gigantic thing.

You carried your checkbook around. I remember having to balance your checkbook. Do people still balance their checkbooks? Older people do. My mom does. You wanted to thank me, but no. I never really did. I was never that organized.

You carried your checkbook around with you? Yeah. really did yeah i was never that organized you carried your checkbook around with you but yeah i mean i don't i try to think i think i i think i did at when i was 18 19 like right around then if you went to like a bar or a restaurant you just bring a checkbook not there not there but i remember i would write checks to walmart you could write a check for walmart to get cash back yeah so you write over and then And then that was, as a teenager, you would do that, even though knowing I don't have that money in there. But I'd still get $20. And then you're overdraft or whatever.

You just would hope you have $20 in there. And so you'd go in there and write a check and then over it. And then they'd be like, you know. But I remember doing that a lot. I've written maybe five checks my whole life yeah i mean i don't anymore are we write checks if i paid someone for the road i we have a check we have checks for that that we have to write people checks but you still get paid in checks i get paid in checks a lot yeah but i'm not making them direct deposit is

starting to become a big thing apparently it's going to catch on uh grace sloan i love how david ramsey we never even commented on this comment we just talked about dave ramsey for 10 minutes oh yeah david ramsey's parents yeah they cut the seatbelts that is a legit that's a guy that you know it's it's funny to go i bet if you talk to his dad now it's like why did you cut him out he's like i don't know that was you know but it was just what you did the buzzer is what drives you crazy enough to then cut the seatbelt yeah if there was no buzzer i bet he doesn't cut seatbelts but the buzzer is enough that you know what he tried that first probably that didn't work and so then he had to disable the buzzer. I do think there shouldn't be a buzzer.

My turn signal is pretty loud. I wish I could turn that down. I would love that. The click? Yeah. It's a lot. And I don't want to use it as much. Because it's that loud?

Yeah. If I'm on the phone, someone goes, what's that? It goes, my turn signal. And it's a loud turn signal and it should be tall it should be toned down i mean i don't know you know what you're telling me for i was i was very involved in turning this turn signal on grace sloan thank you aaron for being the only not married man in the room and still actually somewhat understanding women obviously women are allowed to be bigger than men childbirth changes a woman's entire body

chemistry like honestly you think men should be cut more slack for sitting around eating gummy worms and playing golf while the women are over here pooping out eight pound humans honestly i'm shocked aside from the hilarious ridiculous oversight I truly love the podcast a funny and innocent escape from a truly insane world alright this was about the Japan measuring which I said

Aaron was probably right yeah that women yeah oh okay I wasn't sure but so they're allowed to just get bigger

for pregnancy are they saying they don't because it's like they don't come back well someone pointed out women's bodies are just shaped different. They've got birthing hips, so a woman could still be smaller than us,

but have wider hips. Yeah. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. You give them a little more wiggle room. It's like a bridge. Well, their hips could be bigger.

Yeah. They could be way skinnier. They'd have giant hips. That's why women, I think, usually go in sizes like two four six they're not buying 40 because they don't want to say i wear 40 that's why because they that's you know yeah what size you need i need a 42. All right, that's funny. All right, she wins. Yeah, I do eat gummy worms and play golf. I did those things this weekend.

But I'm a size, I don't know, I'm 34, which is respectable. 32 is what you, that where it gets you get good aaron what are you uh yikes let's go around the room i like to play that you always end up playing that game it's always someone let's go around the room everybody and then uh it's a but it always it always is two people then one person's like well this is no not fun yeah it's never the person that's would not want to say it but you're just a big dude yeah man got your jacket on i got the jacket on dude this is what i'm talking about i feel powerful in it to be honest this is what

having a credit card will do yeah this is i got a credit card next thing you know i'll buy a nascar jacket i mean yeah this is dave ramsay this is what he imagined he imagines everybody calls in they're doing that's what he thinks when they call in and they say what do you got i got uh just bought two boats oh you live on the water no but be honest you're not that close close. And they imagine the guy sitting in his kitchen with that hat and jacket on. With a bush light NASCAR jacket. We just can't seem. Got five leans on my house. I don't even really know what those are, but they're not good.

They're not good. I've learned that. I had to ask someone. I have to ask my neighbors stuff like that, which is kind of crazy. Like what a lien is? Yeah. Isn't a lien where the government takes it from you? No, you don't want liens against your house, which means you took money off your house or something.

You got money something with the bank. Yeah, I don't know. It's not good. I have to ask my neighbors all this stuff. It's kind of embarrassing. Reverse mortgage? Remember reverse mortgage? Fred Thompson kept trying to get me to do those.

I think Tom Selleck doesn't know. He does reverse mortgages? I think so. Yeah. I always have to ask. I'm like, what's... I try to ask in a way. I'm like, yeah.

He's like, there's probably a couple of liens on it. I was like, that's crazy. Hey, what would people say liens are? How would you describe it? Explain it to me like a five-year-old yeah yeah uh luana rodriguez right rodriguez yep luana luana rodriguez i've lived in germany and i've been on the autobahn in the fast lane cruising at about 90 miles per hour and a mercedes got on our tail, flashed his lights, and we moved over, and he flew by us.

My dad thought it would be cool to catch up and blew the engine to our American-made car. That's crazy. I mean, that's just like sitting there flying, dude. Autobahn, 90, 90, and he's like, come on. 90 would be the Autobahn. You got to be like, that's like going 40 on our interstates. Man, just flying that fast.

What if you took it every day? Like if you lived where you could take it, that was like your interstate. I think it is there. People come in. It's just like the highway. It's not one road. It's the highway system. Oh, it's the whole system.

That's what people come in. Wow. Wow. I wonder how many wrecks they have. They said not many because it's really expensive to get a license there, so people are good drivers. Yeah. And they're going so fast, so they do better.

They do better than that. Oh, wow. That's crazy. All right. Last one. Lori Bourne. I've been watching the Showtime Comedy Store documentary it's been absolutely amazing

I noticed that Nate was interviewed briefly in the very last episode what role has the Comedy Store played in Nate's career any interesting stories

stories to share Lori you were letting me know that I was on it so thank you I did I honestly didn't know

until I read this I did do an interview for it and i just haven't watched it yet uh i haven't watched really any of them the comedy store what the what it played in my career when i first started comedy i moved to chicago and me and michael clay my buddy that we moved with we went out to. and went to the comedy store. And I mean, I was we were doing I was doing comedy maybe a year. And so I was another friend of mine. They were in a band. I think it's called Prom Queens. I don't think it's a band anymore.

Josh Baker, Matt Baker and great family, very talented family there. Josh, Josh still does music. And Matt, his brother, was just one of the most athletic people I've ever met. A guy that could do a flip in this room. Just any sport he played, he just picked it up immediately. Could do gymnastics. I mean, just anything.

He was like, go try this. He's like, okay, and would be the best at that. Very athletic guy. So we go. My buddy Josh is in that band the prom queen so we go out there i mean we're you know 24 maybe and um we go to the connor store he was the guy joe joe rogan was a fan of that podcast i mean the podcast of that band so we went to the band, did a show that night. We went to a Joe Rogan, introduced him. I ended up talking to Joe Rogan a lot about just comedy. That was a year into comedy. So I don't even really know what to talk to. But Joe Rogan was super nice.

Talked to me about comedy. All, you know, just would tell me, yeah, I don't know, just a great dude. And then we go to the comedy store. He's like, come watch me at the comedy store. So we went to the comedy store and we went and watched him. We sat in the front, watched him. It was great. And then we got done. And then I went to, we're in the back talking. And I was like, I was trying to do, he was like, are you going to go up here? And I was like, well, I was going to try to, but at the open mic, the open mic there at the time, I don't know if you do it now, but at the time you had to, you had to go, you had to sign up the Monday before you waited in line on Monday to sign up for the next week. So I wasn't going to be in town the next week.

And then he called and said, Rogan just said, Hey, let this kid go up. And so I got to go up. I got to go up on stage. It was one of the, I mean, honestly, maybe the first comedy club I performed at. Wow. Truthfully. Now that I think of it, I've never said that. I thought it was Zany's Chicago, but it probably was the Comedy Store. Because I wouldn't have been back here. I wouldn't have done Zany's. I would have just been doing bars in Chicago.

It's either Zany's Chicago or that was the first club we can know. It was the Comedy Store. Wow. It was probably the first comedy club I ever went up. I never thought about that. That's cool. I definitely didn't say that in the interview because I did not think about it uh and so they introduced me it's an open mic no one's in there at the time and I remember they introduced me and they said here's uh this next guy is like Joe Rogan's best friend and I mean I feel like everybody hated me because i got to get up and then i got to skip over the process and then i was introduced joe rogan's best friend

which i don't think joe rogan knows who i am yeah now like at all so it's uh it's it's it's just it was funny to like get that but that's uh yeah But that's my Comedy Store story. I still go back there. I go to the Comedy Store. I'm in there now. It's a very amazing place. There's a lot of clubs. I go to Laugh Factory out there in LA, Hollywood Improv.

Laugh Factory's great, too. They're all great. But the Comedy Store, with it, a lot. Yeah, the stories. There's a bullet hole behind the sign where Sam Kinison shot a shot a gun one night wow and the bullet hole's still there i mean the old story of they're in the 70s there's great books on it where they had a big comedy strike in the 70s and 80s and they didn't get paid so one of the comedians uh that wasn't getting spots and wasn't getting paid jumped off a building killed himself in the parking lot of the comedy store.

And that, like, just, it got real, obviously, very dark over comedy. You know, this guy killed himself. It was, like, during a show. Like, they just did it and jumped and, you know. But they, I mean, at the time, right now, now with COVID, I think they're still doing stuff outside. But right now, the with COVID, I think they're still doing stuff outside. But right now, the connoisseur is thriving. I mean, it was – dude, it's rolling.

And when you go in there in the crowds, it's packed. And it's just – I mean, the lineups are pretty nuts. I mean, pretty famous lineups of people that you see. So, yeah, it's an amazing place. And it's done – it's played more place and it's it's done it's played more in my career later than it did i mean the beginning it was either at the very beginning then it was nothing because i was in new york all my stories are new york stories and then it it played it later in my life uh so but yeah all right well yes great comedy store documentary on

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listen all right here we go uh so we did a we did a poll uh at you know last week to be what should the what should the fans of the podcast be called we did it on twitter and it was nate landers folks breakfast club or the warriors warriors was eight percent this is out of 225 votes i feel like that's a good representation of the listeners can we do an Instagram poll? We do much better followers on Instagram, right? We'll do an Instagram poll. All right.

You can do one on a story. We can do one. Oh, yeah. You can do it on a story. We'll do another one on a story. Warriors is at 8%. Breakfast Club was at 6.2%. Nate Landers, 23%.

Folks. Folks. Hello, folks.ers, 23%. Folks. Folks. Hello, folks. That is a good one. Yeah. 62.2% is where they're at on that. So we're going to see. What should fans of the podcast be called?

Hello, folks. Because that is a good start. That actually makes it a pretty smart start because I'm talking to you guys. Yeah. Hello, folks. And we know that it means. Everybody's like, oh, is he talking about generally folks? And we're like, get out of here, dude.

If you don't know what it means, if you don't know what folks really means, then I'm definitely not talking to you. That's what I'm saying. I mean specifically you, Aaron. So, all right. Yeah, that was fun. We'll put one on Instagram too so you can see that and uh if you uh i mean if you want to type in to vote it looks like it's folks is running away but

stuff might happen and it might change in the middle of the night wake up tomorrow like whoa look at this warriors coming in hot uh uh so this weekend uh we're going to just uh try a new little different format we do have a topic we'll talk about but we we're gonna just kind of talk about what we did this weekend i had a fun weekend a lot of golf a lot of gummy worms as she said and uh i did i we did golfing so i did two i did a two scrambles one was a lot of musicians uh jake owens a musician uh he does a a great charity event and then he we golfed a lot of musicians were there i golfed with uh shay my buddy shay mooney dan and sh. Go listen to them.

So this is a dumb question for people that don't play golf. What's the difference between a scramble and just playing golf? No golf ball. Yeah, it's more. What if it was that big of a thing? On carpet. If it was that giant of a. You're like, God, that is a huge difference.

You throw the ball. Not on a golf course. One of the main differences. It scrambles between – so it would be four of us. So four of us get together. You tee off. You take the best drive. Then you four hit into the green.

You take the best shot. So you get – everybody gets four chances. Okay. And then four putts, you know know and you take your best so your group is a is a team is a team okay and so that's when that's people get you play scramble stuff gets real dicey i mean because they have all the fun stuff there's always they didn't this one but uh some of them will do you can shoot a golf ball out of cannon they have these like like a t-shirt gun shooter like we did that and you shoot a golf ball out of cannon. They have these like a T-shirt gun shooter.

Like we did that, and you shoot a golf out of cannon, and you play the ball where it lands. And then – so there's a bunch of weird stuff. There's some that you can – everybody gets one red tee. So you can use a red tee. So it's just the ladies tee. So you get to go up to the ladies tee and tee off. And so you decide where you're going to use that.

But all that stuff, I mean, people get where they shoot 20 under. I mean, it gets nuts. You know, and you start, you're like, it's almost impossible to win. It's almost impossible to win. I went closest to the pin at Jake's thing, which was pretty fun. Nailed it early in the day so everybody saw it. Because you write your name, so you put a thing in with your name written on it. And then whoever

gets closer writes their name under it and i mean it was it was this far so there to the you know about eight twelve ten inches boom right next to the rest of the day everybody sees it and everybody brings it up everybody knows it i mean you get a little closer to the pin i was like i don't is it still up there you just act like uh but it was uh so it was a very uh uh it was a very fun trip and then we did i did another one with the hat i'm wearing sweden's cove which is a golf course it's uh kind of near i want to i feel like it's near chattanooga somewhere down that way uh and they it's a nine hole course and the greens have two pins on them and the greens are very big the greens are awesome and so you play nine holes going to the

you know the white flag and then you go back to the same t-boxes and then aim to the blue flag for the so that's how you play 18 and so Mike Jashimski plays for the San Francisco Giants, a Vandy baseball guy. And so he was doing a big tournament for Hearts and Armor, I believe it's the foundation for soldiers when they come back from PTSD. They have that to get them back into regular life and to help them out. So it was a very good thing. We just did it.

It was like 22 guys and we rented out he rented out the whole course which was unbelievable to do not as much as you think they have uh and i bet it's going to go away it was like 4 500 bucks which he's doing it for a charity thing like 4 500 bucks to rent a course out for the entire day that's pretty crazy and you get to so if you wanted to just be like i want to play a golf course by myself for the whole day, it's $4,500. And so then everybody pitches in. I mean, it's cheaper than a greens fee. So it's South Pittsburgh.

South Pittsburgh, yes. South Pittsburgh. Is that near Chattanooga? Marion County. Yeah. South Pittsburgh used to beat us in football every year until we beat them in high school. And then we won our senior year. But they – and I didn't play, but I'm just saying.

I was most school spirit. Were you really? Yeah. I got most school spirit. And homecoming king. Wow. Yeah. Not playing sports.

Homecoming king, not playing sports. I mean, that's a – That's impressive. It's tough to do. It's tough to do. But, you know. Girls from the younger, younger, I was always, they always liked me, the younger girls.

Like if I was a senior, like, you know, the freshmen, sophomores, they liked me. Your class hated you. I don't think they hated me. I don't think they were voting for me as much, but the, I had the, I would talk to the other, I would talk to everybody and the other ones would i think look down on them and i did it right and that was what you weren't an arrogant jock no no that's what pulled me through and they i you could come up and talk to me yeah i was the guy that got cut from basketball my freshman year i got cut from the basket every year i got cut but my freshman year i got cut from basketball and my dad was the coach and he cut me are you serious yeah and that started

a trend that i got cut every year from there on out wow yeah set the tone quick at the house the dinner that dinner that night was awkward that proves your dad's a man of integrity yeah yeah he's not going to give it to he's willing to hurt his relationship with his son just to have the best team. It's probably pretty obvious what he had to do. I was a pretty good ball player. I should have been in play. So your dad should have? Yeah.

He was too hard on you? I think you overcorrect. You go overcorrect. I could see that. To go. I was a freshman. It doesn't matter. You can cut me as a freshman.

But then I got cut. From there on out, the coach, I still think about him all the time, cut me for me. I should have made it once. I was good enough to make. I'm not saying I would have been a starter. We actually had really good athletes in our team. I went to a small school.

I should have made it one year. Maybe something, one year. One year, I should have made it. I should have made it one year. Maybe something, one year. One year, I should have made it. I'm not a bad basketball player. It'd be the guy, the equipment manager they put in for one minute at the end of the season. Yeah. You could have been that guy.

Yeah. But usually it's a kid with autism. And then no one's going to show my videos. Oh, that kid's a healthy kid. And you're like, and they just, you know, you're not going to see that. Here comes the equipment manager. They're going to go, that guy should be starting. That's what they would say about me when I come out there and drain him.

I dunked a Nerf basketball my senior year. It's pretty good. That's pretty good hops. Yeah. I was like 5'9". Dunked a Nerf basketball. Not a big deal. Couldn't get a real basketball in there.

You could pull down the rim. Not saying I was crushing as an athlete, but I could make the team. I went and played church basketball. I'm not that joke. And just dominated church basketball. I mean, just came in and was the leader. If I'm the leader of the church basketball team, I think I can get a spot on a local high school basketball

team that's what i'm saying you know but i'm over it uh doesn't bother me now i can tell man you you know tell you something i think about it every day uh i got a picture of that coach when i wake up i look at it and go i'm gonna show you today you're like michael jordan michael i am the michael j Jordan of comedy. Now, wasn't Michael Jordan's whole thing, he wasn't actually cut. He just didn't make varsity. Yes. So he was on JV. Yeah, but that might as well be cut for him, for that level.

Yeah, it's not that inspirational of a story, in my opinion. Yeah. You're an underclassman. You're supposed to be on JV. I think he's the most overrated player that's ever lived. You want to go with that? Is that what you're trying to say, Aaron? No, I'm just saying it's like one of the – you hear that growing up.

Oh, Michael Jordan got cut from the team, and then you find out, no, he really didn't. That he was – yeah, that it was just JV. Yeah. It's disappointing. It is disappointing. You're saying you would have tried more. No, I'm not disappointed in him.

I'm just saying I don't like that the story became that he was wronged in this big way. When did you learn that he was? I mean, maybe a year ago. The last dance? Did they talk about it in the last dance? Did you feel your productivity in your life slow down when you heard this? Like, do you think this was the drive in everything you do?

And then you found that out and you felt that next day was a little lazier than normal. Maybe. Maybe? I don't think anything Michael Jordan's ever done has affected my life in any way. But it just, it hurt a little bit to know that that story was a lie. Yeah. Well, I think for, he should have been on the varsity team. I think then that was, I mean, if you go to a small school,

it's like you're almost – everybody's making the team. And then if he goes to JV, then he's basically not making the team. Yeah. I feel bad for that coach. How was he supposed to know that this kid was going to be the best basketball player ever, you know? And one of the biggest grudge holders. Yeah.

I mean, imagine that. You have no idea. You just got to – you think you're like, I don't know, I put him on the JV team his freshman year. It's not insane. And you're like, hey, turns out he never lets it go. And we'll bring it up in his Hall of Fame speech. He brought up a lot of stuff.

Would your dad have put him on varsity over you? Oh, absolutely. I mean, look, I think even a JV Michael Jordan, I don't think we're competing. I mean, I'm not delusional. I'm just saying for a small Christian high school, Donaldson Christian Academy.

What's the oldest Michael Jordan you think you could beat in a game of one-on-one? I think I could take an 11-year-old Jordan. I bet you couldn't. I think 12 could take an 11-year-old Jordan. I bet you couldn't. I think 12 years old, he's got me beat. I think I could take an 11-year-old. Are you talking about you right now?

Right now. Right now. I don't think you could 11. I mean, I would say eight, like Harper's age. Full court? Oh, that's a good point. Because if it's full court, he's got you at six. Eight, nine.

I mean, did some of these kids dunk at like nine or ten? I don't think he was doing that, dude. Yeah, but I think – Some of them are freaks. You're a phenom that you go get – You ever see like the kid videos of them doing golf videos where they swing and they – Like it's just a perfect swing.

Tiger had it. Yeah. Where Tiger could beat you in golf at eight. I mean, the only thing is his distance he couldn't you could hit farther jordan was 5 10 when he was 15 and he grew five inches over the next year so he was probably you know eight nine years old he's probably pretty tall i think you would tie i think he's gonna run i don't think you're ever gonna be able to stand in front of him that's the problem yeah and actually that's why i think you're ever going to be able to stand in front of him. That's the problem. Actually, that's why I think you would lose.

He's going to just be able to run around you. So you're either going to tie, but you're going to have to... You think you can take an 11-year-old? I think I can take him on Jordan right now. How old do you think he has to get on the other end for you to beat him? That's what I thought we were doing, by the way. You kind of shocked me when you said 11. I thought that's what we were talking about. He's probably 20 years away from losing the B.

Yeah, he'll probably be. 70. He'll have to get into his 70s. He literally can't be in a wheelchair. And he'll probably still beat me then. But you'll be in your 40s, so yeah, he's still going to beat you. I plan on being in good shape in my 40s so yeah he's still gonna beat you i plan on being in good shape in my okay yeah that's what you're shooting for that's what i'm working on i'm

gonna turn things around i'm working on that best i ever felt that's what i'm gonna say it you say this is the best shape right now it's probably the best shape i've ever been in yeah and it's still not good shape but it's coming from nothing you're in good shape i know i'm but it's coming from nothing. You're in good shape. I know. I'm in good shape, but it's better than what I've ever done. I made the varsity baseball team my senior year. I didn't deserve it, but the coach was just being nice. See, I never got thrown a bone.

You're going to tell me breakfast can make it? Our last game, our senior year, he gathers all the seniors around and gets each one up beside him to say something nice about what they meant to the team. Just like your example. And you've been there one year, right?

I mean, I've been on JV or freshman all four years. Oh, four years. Okay. Yeah. He says something nice about every player. I'm like, what's he going to say about me? And I was near the end. He got up there and he said,

this boy's dad was one of the best ballplayers I ever seen he was such a good player thanks for being on it I mean then I sat back down it was about my dad yeah was your dad great yeah my dad was very good yeah yeah yeah did he play in college uh-huh oh where where at Cumberland. Oh, okay. Oh, nice. Yeah, Cumberland. I know Drew Denton went to Cumberland, played baseball there. Yeah, they've got a great baseball program. I don't think they did when my dad was there, but they do now. Man, I mean, when that first coach, when he heard your name coming through, he's got to be like, here we go. And just, I mean, just when he watched tape on you and he watched you

steal that still first still first to run back he goes what's this that's that's the baits that's the young baits he's like oh no the old block look at it he's confused he's just i mean for your dad like in your dad just to be your base college but i was a college baseball player that's awesome what's your son do he's a weatherman channel five oh that's cool man that's cool yeah you go college and stuff like that he's like yeah yeah he went to college, you got to learn weather stuff. Isn't that usually given to women? Is it? Mostly. Mostly. Weather jobs?

Weather jobs. There's got to be more women doing weather jobs. I'd say that was a pretty close one. In right now? I mean, it might be more women now, but it's still not, I don't think a landslide. I think about, I think about the meteorologists

that we have here in Nashville. It's split. But either, they're really old. Is there any younger men doing it now in Nashville? Uh, I know of a guy,

I don't, he's in his 40s. Oh. He's, yeah. I've got the data here. Yeah. Do you think there are more men or women?

I would think there's more women. What do you think, Brian? Slightly more women. I think it's pretty close. 2016, they found 2,040 weathercasters. Of those 2,040, 1,400 were and almost 600 were women almost they outnumber them almost three to one men do yeah well that's crazy uh that's all day that was based off yeah i was if it's on if i had the laptop we'd be getting current data but that's also based off uh nothing

of my knowledge you're right i have zero no no i'm not saying that i'm saying of my knowledge. You're right. I have zero. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying my knowledge of being more women is never thought about it, never crossed my mind. Don't watch weather on the news. And I just said that. I could be completely wrong in the fact that. But I will say when I think of a weather person, I do think of a woman in front of the green screen pointing at stuff. I think it should be more women. I think so too. Yeah.

Why? Well, maybe not, maybe not because their giant hips might cover up too much of the screen. Yeah. I can't see Kansas. I've got a big problem there. Maybe that's why it's a bin. Finally, I can get some of Tennessee on the map. Have you ever done, was it very hard to do the weather thing?

Like, get used to that? Yeah, and I didn't do the weather. You just had that one video. That was in college. Yeah. But yeah, it's hard, Kermakee, because... Yeah, I mean, that's where you got to get good at looking and pointing and, you know, I bet you learn it in an hour, but it's... But I bet that hour is hard.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not trying to... You know, I mean, as I talk about it they're not you know they're not working on it you couldn't jump in and be good at it right away no you could figure it out yeah i mean yeah they're not laying pipe somewhere you know it's not they're not roofers right i bet they picked it up in an hour and they got you know uh so yeah so anyway where we i don't know where we've ever

been talking about I was talking about golf I did that it was a fun weekend we all did that well we also did so we did the golf thing we played 18 holes

a lot of a lot of Vandy baseball I'm going to have some of them come in here too and sit with us and they we did

one thing that they did because you since you run this course so you run around back for Peyton Manning is very involved in this course it's I mean it's it's maybe the number one nine hour nine hole course in the country and then it's starting to be known as one of the top courses in the country and uh and I think renting it out for that 4500 is going to go away I just think that's that's pretty i that's not that 4500 ours is not a lot of money but everybody would agree to own a course for a day that doesn't

seem like a lot i mean if you had 45 guys paid 100 bucks yeah you know that's it and you just get to do whatever you want and so i can see how companies might oh it'd be a great i don't know many great corporate yeah many just individuals that would want to do it but if you got a bunch of buddies together it's a bunch like ordering a fight i know but if you have a thing about i'm a you go member at a country club if i mean there's usually 800 members at a country club four to eight hundred i mean, you know, if you just said, Hey,

I'm, I've rented this thing out. You asked a hundred dudes at a country club, they would be like, Oh, I'll do it. How much is it? A hundred bucks.

Yeah, I'll do it. And if you don't want it, 200 bucks, you get half that, which is a perfect number. Cause what they also do, they set up a, at the end of it,

we set up a different way where, uh, I think it was called the Luminati round. And the idea of it is you start on like one tee box and you're playing to eight green. So you're going across different holes. Wow. So it could be like 800 yards. Yeah.

And you got to go like you got to figure what's the best way for you to get across. That's crazy. Yeah, which is very fun to do. That's a very big thing that a lot of guys do at clubs. If it's late, it's not busy, they'll do that. All right, we've got to play from here to wherever the next place is, which is kind of a – I didn't really hear about it until if you join somewhere. And then you find a lot of the staff does that

or like, you know, the younger, the cart guys will do it and stuff. So, which is very fun. But yeah, it was a fun weekend. And so big golf weekend. So I think that was all I did. And then did y'all do anything? I went out of town, went to the Smoky Mountains this weekend and tried to go to Dollywood, but it was sold out.

Oh, really? Yeah. But still, we had a nice, beautiful weather this weekend. The honeymoon? No. Where'd y'all go for your honeymoon? New York. Oh, that's right.

That's right. Wait, Dollywood was sold out? Yeah. It's half capacity and you got to reserve your tickets it's the time to go if you want to go to disney world or any of that stuff this is the time i mean it's they i know something with the disney world they were like it's the best best experience they've ever had no one's there and we drove back early yesterday morning we went to the titans game yesterday yeah and that was fun because there's nobody there either.

Yeah. And concession stand lines wide open. There's no public parking. Walking in. Yeah. Beautiful weather. Did you and Ruth sit next to each other? Yeah.

You didn't have a separation? Because of your wife. You can't do it with your wife. Like if me and you went to it, we would have had a scene in between. Oh, I thought you were talking about because of COVID. No, no, no.

You're talking about just people. I mean, just comfortableness to go. There's no. I mean just in people. Just comfortableness to go. There's no reason for us. There's no one around us. So spread out. So if you and Laura went, you'd spread out? Probably not. I mean I probably would ask but I'm not

the most normal person and Laura knows that. But they've zip-tied the seats so you can't just sit in any seat. Oh, wow. So you can't. Well, I mean, if I have to go even farther, then we have to go farther. But I would try to ask if you could.

So you couldn't have sat next to, like, you couldn't have one seat between y'all? No. Yeah. No. If you could have, would you have? No. See, why would you just be more comfortable, right? Go to a movie theater.

Why do you not just sit, spread out? You do it with dudes. Guys will go, come on, spread out. Always put a seat in between. You always put a seat in between. But your wife, you don't. I know a lot of guys that don't even want to do it in movie theaters. Those people are insane.

And that's crazy. And that's uncomfortable. If you go with someone. I've been to a movie theater. No one's in there. And I'm sitting down in the seat. And I've seen a guy sit behind me. And that's crazy. And that's uncomfortable. If you go with someone, I've been to a movie theater, no one's in there and I'm sitting down in the seat and I've seen a guy sit behind me and it's me and him. Maybe. No,

I think it was me and him. Just the two of you? Just the two of us. Some theater. I forget where on the road somewhere. Cause people watch people line up. When people go get in lines, people just naturally go to next to the person.

And he said behind me, it didn't, I don't remember the movie cause I was so, I couldn't get in lines. People just naturally go next to the person. And he said behind me, I don't even remember the movie because I was so, I couldn't get over it. I would have gotten up and moved to the other side. Well, because then I think, was that rude? Am I starting something? Is it, you know? But it was, I mean, I was so angry.

I could never let my mind leave that guy and just watch the movie. Because I was, I'm like, why would you ever do that, man? Why would you not just, not go right behind me? If you went to a movie that looked like it could be sold out with a buddy, would you go ahead and spread out? Or would you wait and see? I would wait and see then yeah that's that's and then i would i would try to if we can try to spread out but i'm not gonna

be a problem i'm not you know i'll i'll sit next to each other and be packed in and i'm fine with that but yeah i've been when you go with a friend and they don't you're like come on yeah just get spread out like what are we doing like it's it's insane but people just naturally i like to watch that i watch that a lot watch people go into any line watch people park they park at a store yeah everybody i mean somewhere up front but you could park anywhere crazy you'll never be able to really be parked alone because people naturally will just pull and they pull right next to look at you know lines it when you go lines but now the covet's a little different before people just get

close people like they just naturally will go in a herd yeah and you can watch them and you just think just go this way and you i and i think i mean i think about it all the time yeah yeah all right aaron what do you do? I was at Zaney's this weekend with Preacher Lawson. That's fun. Did some shows. It was a good time.

Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Good wrap-up, Aaron. Everybody brought some stuff to it. I got to watch Notre Dame. Big win.

Big win. Maybe the biggest Notre Dame win of my lifetime. Yeah. Really? Without Trevor Lawrence. That's true. Without their star quarterback. But I was thinking about it. Yeah, it probably is the biggest Notre Dame win of my lifetime. Yeah. Really? That's true.

Without their star quarterback. But I was thinking about it. Yeah, it probably is the biggest Notre Dame win. When did they win the championship last time? 1988, three years before I was born. God. You were born in 91? Yeah.

That's nuts, dude. Yeah. So that's the biggest win. So it was pretty sweet. Yeah. Watching that. Yeah. Yeah, that was a big win. Yeah. Yeah pretty sweet. Yeah. Watching that. Yeah. Yeah, that was a big win.

Yeah. Number two in the country now. Yeah. I heard on the radio this morning, they were talking about that game, and they said it's a tradition in Notre Dame that if someone leaves their bike unlocked, they put it in their tree. Yeah, that's a big thing. Really?

That's a big thing. If you walk around campus at like three in the morning, you'll see people. It's just when people walk back to their dorms drunk from the bars, if you see a bike out, you just throw it up in a tree. Hilarious if you don't have a bike. I imagine if you have a bike, it's pretty frustrating. Yeah. If you walk around campus in the morning, you'll just see bikes everywhere and trees.

Wow. And they stay up there. Yeah. Well, they're tough to get down. You put them up pretty high. Yeah. My buddy had one of those two-seat bikes, tandem bikes. That's probably tough to get down you put them up pretty high yeah my buddy had a uh one of those two-seat bikes tandem bikes that's probably tough to get up there he and his he and another guy would ride

it on campus roommate they lived off campus they'd ride to campus wow on a tandem bike they're on the rugby team i bet they sat together at movies yeah yeah i mean if you ride a tandem bike do you go do you go i mean we're already committed to the. So we might as well also sit next to each other. Or do you go, maybe the guy in the back goes, I can't. And then there's like five seats in between you. Because you're going, it's too much. It's too much. We're too on each other today.

So this week episode, we are going to talk about malls. Did y'all watch the Jasper? are going to talk about malls did y'all watch the Jasper I wanted to talk about malls did you watch the Jasper mall thing I watched it did you watch it did you have all weekend of doing nothing watch it real fast now 85 minutes

long not that long it is I was telling Laura it got great reviews it's definitely interesting it's a mall in alabama jasper uh jasper county or jasper something and i it was kind of slow very slow nothing really to it and i honestly think so i think if you're from the south and i'm you know tennessee where and i go to malls a lot to me it was like boring and then like my neighbors who were from new jersey loved it and i think they love it because it's like watching zoo animals to them is honestly what i believe i almost think it's insulting that fact how many people they love it being because

you saw these very old southern kind of characters these old men playing dominoes they play there every day showing the mall walkers they say pledge allegiance to the flag every morning it was just i mean it is showing a small town but then i take it as i loved it but it's because i feel like it it reminds me of people i grew up with yeah yes I loved it for that too. But it got, I mean, towards the end, I'm like, all right. Yeah. Like this is, I could love 45 minutes of it. I love the pacing of it and stuff.

And then like 85, you're like, and there's nothing going on. I think I'm thinking too, I think I went into it wrong. I'm thinking something's going to happen. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, nothing really happens. No. But if you want to see southern i mean i mean honestly maybe captured small town living better than anything yeah uh that there is i mean there

wasn't it's that small town living that's mall living they go in be mall walkers uh it's pretty it's that but i don't you feel like people like, I think people like it because they go, they want to see, they look at it as like, that's what those people are like. Yeah, a little bit. I'm sure that's probably true.

I mean, there were some funny moments in it. Yeah. The old guy on his phone. Yeah. The, the army training place.

Do you remember that? Yeah. They made them train and they go to the, you sign up for the army there and you have to do the training there. It's supposed to help you get ready to go in the Army, and it's a guy and a girl.

The girl just does great. Does great. Doesn't even need breathing allowed. The guy has to stop. He can't keep going. Wow. Yeah, I mean, the guy, who knows if he made it. Yeah, it didn't look like it.

The mall's shutting down. They're trying to get a big... I mean, too, stuff I never noticed that they said with the mall, they're like, they're asking, they go, do you have two anchors? And so anchors are stores. What are your two big stores? So now all they have left is Belk, but they used to have Kmart and JCPenney.

So they used to have four anchors. They had Kmart, JCPenney, Belk, but they used to have Kmart and JCPenney. So they used to have four anchors. Yeah. They had Kmart, JCPenney, Belk, or maybe something else, but whatever. So when you think of a store, the mall here, Cool Springs Mall, the anchors, they have a Belk. There's a Macy's. But those big stores are your anchors. So if you lose those anchors, that kind of crushes a mall. It'd be like Bass bass pro shops at opry mills sort of the staple of the yeah the mall maybe you got to walk through it to get into the

mall yeah one of those places yeah yeah they used to have k yeah they used to have all that stuff i mean i love seeing guys these old old people be these like mall walkers they come do it every morning man they get there i was wondering when that guy slept, the guy that ran it. Yeah. Because he would be, he locks it up at seven. And then, I mean, they were getting there at dark and they look like they were getting there at six in the morning. Yeah.

You know? And then he's back there. It made it look like he's there around the clock. Yeah. The mall walkers would show up early. Early. In big groups yep it's interesting man because i think you got to unlock the doors where you can get in a mall

maybe the stores stores can open whenever they want to open i think i would have thought that they're all under like we're all in this together but it's not i mean you're a business that's like you're basically just renting out a building inside a mall but malls are you know i mean this small i mean they said in the 80s they were they they trying to drum up business they had these quartets uh come seeing one day and that was kind of a big event for them and it was you know it looked like it was kind of crowded uh i mean relatively speaking there's all these old just older people come watching them and playing like gospel music. Gospel quartets and stuff.

Yeah. And I was just trying to get some people in the door, maybe see some stuff. One guy was a jewelry guy, jeweler. And he, is that right? Jeweler? Jeweler. Yeah.

I think, yeah. See, that's why I would say jewelry guy because I'm scared of that word, jeweler. I would avoid it. I would say like a ring guy. Yeah. If you can avoid words like that i usually try to i try to too which i think is a big thing to do in comedy

if you can avoid the easiest word to describe what you're trying to say and try to say it in another game it's funnier to say jewelry guy i do that a lot in comedy if anybody ever no one of them anybody cares but just if you're wondering the i do that a lot so don't pick the main word that everybody would use to describe that guy the proper word yeah described it in a like that way avoid the word jewelry guy yeah and if you had a joke saying the jewelry guy comes over that's very funny ring guy he like makes rings you know whatever that guy is yeah like that's i mean that's a way more of a funny description anyway uh, I'm going to teach a comedy class at Jesper Mall. If you come sign up.

My wife went to college. She took classes in a mall. Really? Yeah. She went to a college in Alabama, the Madison Mall in Huntsville. Oh, yeah. And she went in there, and she said she took classes and then just left and moved

nashville not much after that and because it was she was taking is she couldn't she stopped going because it was learning history and you're like but we're in a mall like you could never get over the idea that you're you're like we're in a mall someone's buying toys in there yeah people are doing you know and and you're like in history today like it would be very it's kind of weird you don't feel the full experience have you done a lot of comedy clubs in malls yeah i mean there's a million of them they're in malls yeah but do you have that moment too when you're in there i had it i was just in one where you're like man there's like a it's a lego store right outside yeah comedy club right now. It's a little strange. I think once you get in, I don't think I ever thought of it like that.

I love malls so much that I'm excited to be in there. If I find one and there's a comedy club in the mall, I'm very happy just because I know I'm going to go walk in this mall all weekend. And I love walking around a mall. I mean, I love being outside, but I love also being inside. There's people. That's why I think so many people go to it. It's really, you feel like you're doing something. If you're going, I'm going to the mall today. It's like, oh, I'm going to do something.

Whether you buy something or not, it's an activity. You're actually doing something. You're walking around. Right. You know, I've been to Mall of America, one of the biggest malls in the country. I don't remember what the biggest mall is. It is the biggest mall in the country. It is the biggest mall in the country. It is the biggest mall in the country.

Yes. I've been to one. There's one in Canada, too. That one's bigger. Yeah, that one's bigger. I've been to both of those. It's the biggest one in North America. Yeah, they're huge.

One in Dallas is huge. They have ice skating rings. I mean, you walk around it. I mean, it's a haul, man. I went to one. Was it Vancouver that there's a really big i went to one it was at vancouver that there's a really big one i guess like edmonton edmonton yeah i went to one in canada there's an ice skating rink in the middle and they just had like a youth hockey game inside the mall

yeah and everybody would gather around and watch it yeah this is yeah this felt like the cultural hub of the city almost yeah they and so in high school, they used to do fashion shows at that Jasper Mall. They showed that. So they used to do fashion shows. They were really big to do at malls. So we and my buddies would always go and try to get on these fashion shows. I never got on one. They all got on it.

So four of us would go. Was your dad the judge? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see a trend here. I know. Four of us would go, and they would cut me. I would never get it. They would go, all right, my buddy Nick did it.

Nick Newman, he did it all the time. He did every one of them. And I think Kenny did one, but Kenny and Travis Morris are like four guys, or three guys including me and then they all got to do it everybody was like yeah yes absolutely absolutely and i would go can i do it they go no what do you say no they would not let me i would like i wasn't good looking enough to be a model were your friends that did it were they pretty good looking people i mean regular guys i mean yeah i guess so back then i guess i don't know i mean but i i mean there's uh where is i don't have to pick lar bring that high school picture uh yeah this is my high school picture

this is what i looked like in high school and uh it was it wasn't i mean i wasn't, I mean, I wasn't just a problem. I should have been able to, at a local mall. Well, that's a glamour shot. This is, I mean, come on. Huh? This kid can't wear a shirt in the middle of a regular mall. Is that your senior picture? I think you're making their point.

That's a good picture. Look at those. Now, Brian, what did you say? You said that's a glamour shot? You said that's best case. That's best case scenario right there. Yeah. When you're modeling, you're not going do not best case. You're doing best case scenario right there. Right, yeah. Yeah. But that's what, well, when you're modeling, you're not going, do not best case.

You're doing best case. Right. You're bringing best case to the table. That's true. Why do I not get to do it? I had a lot of stuff there. Yeah, why did I get told no so much? I got told no all the time.

That prepared you for comedy. My preparation of continuing to get told no. Yeah. I mean, I'm in a business that is just constantly no. You want a TV show? We're going to let you get as far as you can and then no. Stand up? No.

Everything's no. You're going to do this? No. Everything's no. Everything, yeah. You're in comedy, which is what I love about this business. It is the most no's I've ever been told. And I think it's, I mean, I...

For me, it was dating. Yeah, that was your no's. Have you been told no in comedy? Yeah. I don't know if I've been told yes. Yeah. What? No, no, no, no, no.

It's all no's. Everything's a no. I did a fashion show in high school once. I mean on yeah i mean it was you just get there's this tux company and they did a fashion show they get seniors to wear their tuxes and do fashion and then you got a discount for your prom yeah i remember this woman the woman that ran the tux place, she gave me one of those tux where the jacket is super long. I look like Penguin from Batman. Penguin? Who?

You look like Penguin from Batman? I didn't mean to say it. Okay. Is that how they say it in Batman? Penguin? I don't think they did. Oh, I don't know. I don't even think they'd be scared if that's how you say it.

But did they? I don't think that's how they say it in Batman. The point is it was a ridiculous looking suit that they had me in. Yeah. And I felt super, I mean, it looked, yeah, it looked like that. It's hard to argue that with you wearing that jacket. This is ridiculous. The person watching this now goes, I think I did the right thing.

That's the person that, as she sees you, she, she's you wear. Well, here's what happened. I was so self-conscious about the length of this coat that I went and found another guy and I traded jackets. So I mismatched jackets. So I had like the normal suit and then this white, it looks so stupid.

That lady was furious at me. She's furious. Because you're not having to wear that jacket for the. Not for prom. It just said, you just got to gotta model this just walk out and you were just the person fitting that like you were just the guy that's gonna be yeah so she's like that's the whole point of this did you have to pay full price no she still gave me the discount she was she but she was so mad yeah that i did that she was like that's the whole point is that you're supposed to. Yeah. And anyway. Yeah, I mean,

but yeah, but you're, yeah, you're, I mean, see, I would have wore whatever they wanted. You would have been a team player, dude.

I was trying to be a team player. Every year I got told no. Penguin. How do they say it in Batman? We can pull it up. Yeah, I'm very curious

how they say penguin in Batman. I think, I think they say penguin. Batman? We can pull it up. Yeah, I'm very curious how they say Penguin in Batman. I think they say Penguin. I don't know if they say Penguin. Here comes the Penguin. The Penguin of... Yeah, we got to figure out. We got to find a clip where they actually say it.

Somebody's not as good on the laptop as we hoped. Oh, dude, you would still be typing in Penguin right now. I mean, I would. Yeah, you'd be looking up jasper mall i hope that crashes so bad there's uh i so so yeah the jasper mall was it was uh trying to figure that out or trying to watch that i i did enjoy if you want to watch you know real alabama and they capture it which is pretty crazy i love the older guys i could be and i definitely would be a mall walker

definitely i didn't know that was a thing and about two years ago i was trying to get in my steps every day it was about this time of year it was very warm and one day it was really cold and i was out right near green hills mall and i thought i'm gonna go in here like i was the first person think of it and i'm just gonna get my laps in yeah here at this mall and i go in i'm walking and i see an old dude like on the other side and this with his tennis shoes on he kind of gives me a salute yeah all right he's just being friendly and then i started noticing i'm seeing all these old people just we're all making the laps together and they're all waving and and passing each other and i realized that's an old person i did not know it till then you fit right in you fit right in well that's your sign of your age is you slowly just start figuring it out you start figuring

stuff out on your own yeah and you go you know what a mall would be great yeah to go walk in so that's you know it's you you've stumbled into basically oh you're the you're the young guy there yeah they're like look at this guy young boy finally getting some young young guys we don't look as bad yeah do you feel like they surrounded you they passed me i don't know they surrounded me and just going through the cdc recommends it i saw that they have a whole guide on how to start mall walking. It's a CDC-approved activity for old people because there's no traffic. You're not going to get run over by a car.

It's indoors, you know? But now they don't want you indoors. Right. Well, I don't think they wrote it now, but this is before COVID. Before COVID. They wanted old people to do it. Yeah. It's a safe place to walk around.

Yeah, I agree with that. I think you should. I love the mall. I love every mall, and I would go to all the malls, and I'm a giant fan. When you were growing up, you went a lot? We would. Yeah, we'd go to the mall. It was a big deal to go to the mall.

I mean, malls were thriving when I was growing up. But now on the road, if I'm somewhere that's a mall, I still am excited. And I will go to that mall. I just want to go walk around. I go walk around every day. I just enjoy it. It's fun to do. When did malls start? They started in the 50s.

Yeah? I thought it would be like the 100s, like 1900. The first one opened in Indiana minnesota 1956 would you have thought it was that soon like that not i would have thought more recently to be honest with you the opposite i thought it was like an 80s thing they just invented malls i would i mean shopping i would think that malls would just be you know like here's a different version, but it was started in 1920. You know, I mean, would the pilgrims, they probably had an aversion.

You had to go buy stuff. I mean, there was some like Italian examples of kind of malls back in the 1800s, but the real, what we think of as malls was in the 1950s, started here in America. In Minnesota. I know outdoor malls used to be big. Yeah. I'm talking about indoor.

Yeah. Outdoor used to be, outdoor was probably older. I guess. Yeah. Because someone was hard to define what exactly a mall is. Yeah. Yeah. An outdoor mall.

Certainly strips, shopping centers. That's what I loved about LA because the LA would have, California would have all these outdoor malls. And so they were just awesome. It would, you know, I mean, we moved to California. I would go, I would go sometimes if I just have anything to do in a day and I was at home and I just wanted to go out and go do something, I would leave my house and go walk around the malls in California.

They were outside. I enjoyed it. I don't think I buy that much stuff. It's not like i go and buy stuff i just enjoy walking around yeah and uh i remember it was a big deal for us to go to the mall yeah because we didn't drive in nashville yeah so we'd go to hickory hollow or rivergate yeah there's two big malls and it was a big deal i remember the like my mom would let me first time ever like all right i'm gonna let you go on your own we'll meet back here at the food court yeah at like one o'clock yeah and that was a big deal yeah i remember that too how old were you at the time you're 12 yeah but it does seem weird

now because we didn't have cell phones so it does seem kind of scary to think about yeah you couldn't they couldn't find you uh i remember getting to go by myself. People used to fight, though, at Rivergate Mall. That's when it started changing. People would meet there for fights. Yeah, they're still fighting there. Yeah. Yeah.

They would say, come meet here at the Rivergate Mall. In the parking lot? No, sometimes in the mall. Oh, wow. So we're all going to meet there, and then that's where they're going to fight. Like high school kids were doing yeah do you ever go to one of those no but i just i think it was after me but i remember going and because malls have taken a turn yeah they've taken a bad turn oh yeah i was gonna say i kind of feel like i caught the tail end of that because i don't know if kids were hanging out in malls when I was in high

school. I remember a little bit of it when I was in middle school, but it was just never much of a thing. And I was here in Nashville. We have a good mall here in Opry Mills, but I don't know. Well, that's it. I remember Opry Mills, Opryland theme park was there and they knocked it down for the mall. And I remember I was like, and I, how much I love malls. I was still a little excited that the mall was coming, but I was like, was like that's so stupid why would you do that and i still don't agree with it they should still have the theme park there because the theme park was the best to go walk

around in high like if you go in high school you get it we'd get a patent that was my first job yeah i'm actually going there today uh or the grand opera today today. But that was my first job was to do that. I was 15, and I was a sweeper. I just swept the park up and went and walked. I had dogs. I would sit, and people would leave their dogs. Like, we left, went to Dollywood. We had Holly, and so we put her in the kennel,

and I would be in charge of those kennels. One dog got out because they'd had these S-clips to put cages yeah and they did they were one short so i was having to like guess on which dog do i think would figure out because how to get this thing open so you're just kind of like you'd have to guess the dumbest dog which dog do you think is not going to be able to figure it out and uh I did not choose correctly. And this dog, the door is open. And I remember someone was paying or something. The door is open.

I'm 15, 16 years old. And I just see the corner of my eye. And I'm like, and this dog is gone. Remember, the parking lot would just be packed. And the dog is in the parking lot. just be packed and uh and dogs in the parking lot so then we gotta run out there but i can't leave because then there's other dogs and we call i have to call and they have to come they have to go really look for this dog and they find the dog finally underneath the car oh wow and uh he was dead no i'm just what if i said it that way no he

was fine that's the wrong way. Did you get in trouble? I think so, but it wasn't my fault. They didn't have the clips. They were short on the... You'd put these clips in because if a dog could hit the cage, he could get the little lock. So you had to have that in so they couldn't. But it was just... The whole thing was just dogs bringing...

I'm trying to think if anybody brought any weird animals either. These were vacationers? Yeah. Huh. So they come in, they bring their dog, and then you just put them in there. And we put Holly in when we went to Dollywood. I know it's a much more prevalent thing now to take your pets with you on the road. I felt like back in the 80s and 90s, I'm surprised people were doing that.

I think people would be, you know, people going to Opryland would be camping a lot, RVs. Yeah. And they would have their animals. I don't think they're bringing them into hotels. I don't think they would allow it then. But they're bringing them those other way. But we did that. But now it then became a mall, and now it's a mall. 1950s, it's pretty crazy.

Malls had a good run then. 1950s, it's pretty crazy. Malls had a good run then. It's funny. Malls, a lifestyle, a life, what is it? Life expectancy or life. Lifespan. Lifespan.

I was bad. I was around. Yeah, you could do it. You know, I was getting there. I knew. It's like feeling for, I can't. I bring up examples I can't say. The wood and the drywall. God.

You know, when you kind of hit on a wall. To find the stud? Find the stud. Yeah. I was like. I was like. Beep, beep, beep, beep. Yeah, I was near it.

Even my examples are not good at my examples. But they, I feel like it was very quick. Because it feels like they're going away. You know? Our mall's thriving and they're all going away, right? Most like they're going away you know our malls driving at all they're all going away right most of them are going away um there's something here that said 25 percent of how many miles you think are left in the country can you tell me how many were there uh what are we what is peak when you say mall it's it's i'm talking about what you think of

the indoor a large enclosure with different stores inside i'm gonna get in america or i would say 2500 i don't i don't know how many you think there were i mean would you say i don't know at its peak what it was yeah 5000 or is that at its peak insane yeah i don't know yeah i mean i i think i don't know if it's it's it's oh where how many nice open uh at least one new shopping building that's all right we're looking stuff up yeah and it's uh how many malls are left 116 2007 there's 116 000 shopping malls that's uh yeah but that's back in the 70s there are only 30 000 should we go with the 30 000 number is that better to go no that's counting that that's not counting what we're talking about. What are the figures?

I'm kind of bombing as the researcher here. 6,000. 1,000. Roughly 1,000 malls left in America. Really? This one article says 25% of them will close over the next 3-5 years. Wow.

Definitely not helped by what's going on now, right? Yeah, it's definitely speeding up. They are. The expert. We've got an expert, Aaron Weber. Aaron, here's our COVID guy. COVID is bad for malls too. Oh, never thought about that.

Indoor things that old people walk around in. You think that'd be bad for COVID? Well, you think that these malls are going to have to rethink. They're going to have to do more events like you were talking about. Well, what they're doing is- Stuff going on inside the mall. Yeah, the new ones coming up, they're more than just a mall. They got an entertainment complex connected to it.

Yeah. Just all kinds of stuff. Yeah. That's what they should be is Columbus. You were at the Columbus Funny Bone, right? Yeah. So like Columbus Funny Bone, one of the top comedy clubs in the country. And that's, do that kind of route more where you have movie theater,

you have that comedy club, and you have to go that route and be like, it's the center of these towns and this is where you're going to go. Have bars. Have restaurants. But they need to be good restaurants. They need to be, you know, they got to, it can't, I think it's like, we kind of grew past all the stuff that was in there. I don't understand where people are shopping.

I don't know how to shop outside of going to a mall. When someone says they're going to go buy clothes, I'm like, so you go to the mall, right? I don't understand when people are people are like no i don't go to the mall at all yeah that's always crazy to me it's either walmart or the mall for me yeah online shop yeah i guess i'm just not into online shopping like i think i gotta try stuff on too much to see how it fits and i you know you're old school but us young guys that's what that's what we do yeah i'm an amazon guy you just buy all your clothes on amazon no but my wife does weird sometimes i'll go to the store with the intention of let me learn about or try on the product and then i'll buy it online at cheaper price but i'm

just impatient i always end up just buying it there you buy stuff impulse is that what you're saying yeah occasionally you maybe buy something yeah yeah i'm a big impulse buyer for sure you'd be a you'd be on the picture on the website how to get are you tired of being an impulse buyer just picture of you with all that on and then yeah i'm bad about it man if i'm in a checkout aisle at a store, dude, I start looking around. Yeah. I start, maybe I'll read this magazine. You know, I start, I don't get it.

Do you buy a magazine? Dude, if it looks good. Yeah. You know, buy a little word search booklet or something. Yeah. A little time life. Yeah, something, man. Dan Soder, I might have told this story on there, but he would, I remember one day we

were driven, he was opening for me somewhere, I want have told this story on there, but he would, I remember one day we were driven, he was opening for me somewhere, I want to say Pennsylvania or something. And we go to Walmart and he buys, we go into this Walmart, we just walk in there in the middle of town where, you know, we've been living in New York for a long time. So it's like, he's like, ah, like, you know, he grew up in Colorado, but like outside Colorado. So he's like, oh's like, ah, like, you know, he grew up in Colorado, but like outside Colorado. So he's like, oh, this is like old memories going into, because when you're in New York, I mean, there's nothing in New York outside of like real places and real stores. And then Soder just goes in and buys, this is a long time ago, but he just buys like

a six pack of jeans and he goes, all and puts them in the car it goes i'm good and i was like this is how you buy your jeans he goes yeah yeah bought six of them right there i mean he was buying stuff from walmart walmart jeans just bought a six pack of six pack of them like he was a 80 year old man that just goes, oh, I need new jeans. These are the size. I love it. Yeah. He died and he doesn't do that now. I can assure you that.

He's probably not far off. He's probably still closer to that than he is away from it, but I don't think he's doing that now. Yeah, Ghost Mall is a big thing. I was reading about the biggest mall in the world up until recently was in China as far as just square footage. But it was a ghost mall for like 10 years. And then they finally –

What's a ghost mall? Just empty? No one goes? Yeah, dead mall. Yeah, just stores are empty, things like that. But you can still go in it. Yeah, it was open. It was kind of just empty.

And then they had a lot of high-end stores. And it was in a part of china that people just couldn't afford it yeah they kind of revamped it and started putting in more different types of stores middle class and now it's now it's kind of thriving yeah but it's known as the world's largest ghost mall it was the largest mall in the world up until just a couple years ago what is the largest one now in iran. Really? Yeah. How big is it? It is 21 million square feet. 21 million.

The Mall of America is 5.6 million. So it's four times the size. Four times the size of the Mall of America. But you read this and you're like, how is this even considered a mall? Tennis court, swimming pool, ice rink. Probably people live there. Probably, yeah. Probably so probably so it's just that's a city yeah yeah that's that's that's what they're gonna have to do is is do that like just i've been you go you gotta like live there people can shop walk around just create little cities within cities yes Yes. Yes. And it's a one,

you go there and we get it all done. And then, you know, I mean, I, I love them all. I don't know if people do. I mean,

do people not like them? I guess. I think this, what's the big stores leave. If a big store goes out of one, then you just, you know, you gotta,

I guess there's gotta be a reason for us for you to go there. But that guy, the drawer jeweler that we were talking about earlier, I don't think I finished. That guy said on that Jasper, he had one day, he goes out a $24 day and a $16 day. So in his business that day, he made $16 one day. He's like, yeah, that's just not going to do it.

I don't know how much they're selling. I mean, I would think malls around here are doing good and they're definitely not some will be crowded the weekends will be crowded yeah i feel like opry mills is still crowded opry mills opry mills is pretty crowded but but you still walk past stores and it's like i don't know if anybody's been in there all week yeah you know it's just how are these places making money yeah that guy said he would sit in his office and there's days where he wouldn't see a person walk. So he would be in the back room because that's where he works on the rings. And then he's got a window and he could look through it.

And he's like, there's days you don't see a person walking. It's not like they're not coming into your store. You're not even seeing people. Yeah, that's crazy. It's crazy. Have you been to that Lebanon Outlet Mall lately? Not lately. I mean, it's becoming a ghost town really oh yeah lots of empty stores there yeah I mean it's what's yeah what's another fun fact all right mall of america which is the largest mall

united states and most visited supposedly in the world if you spent 10 minutes in every store so think about that which that's easy to do it would take a shopper more than 86 hours to complete their visit to mall of america which is more than three days man that's why you're you'd be like let's go let's go that's crazy go yeah that's a lot um yeah there's a new mall supposedly opening miami that will be the new largest mall in in the united states it's called american dream miami but there's still some hang ups and council and stuff like that it's going to have 2 000 hotel rooms a massive theme park 16 story indoor ski slope 20 slide water park so it's either a destination place because now if you

live there yeah that the only thing they would have to do is you got to make it easy for the people that live there because if you live there you're like i'm not going to that mall it's going to be tonight i'm not paying to park i'm not like you know if i'm just trying to go to the gap i'm not going to go through all these hoops to but i think that's a great way to go yeah it's like you have that stuff be attached to it maybe this side is the mall where people can come and go but if they want to walk and kind of see some of the roller coasters i mean in the uh mall of america they have the theme park inside of it and i mean they have a roller coaster you can ride those rides and uh so larry fitzgerald he was in there. Yeah? Yeah. I remember just seeing, like, because he's from there, Minneapolis.

I didn't know that. Or Minnesota. Yeah. And, yeah, he was a, like, he worked for the Vikings. Like, he was a ball, or his dad worked in the ball. Maybe his concession stand or something. He worked in the Vikings stadium. That's cool.

And so, and I saw him just, he was, like, hanging out at the mall. Like, they were walking around in those rides. But if you have stuff like that, the thing is the stores have to feel good. Like you have to, you got to want to go to these stores. And I don't know if malls have a bad, you know, people look down on them. I think, you know, they think they're gross. So they think I'm above them all. I go, I don't go to the mall.

And so people have that kind of air to them. And so people that would actually spend money are not going to go. I guess they're not going to go to a mall. But if you had some real stores in it, you know. I mean, there's one in Atlanta in Buckhead. I think that's a mall that's just super nice stores. But I feel like if someone's buying something crazy, they want to buy it not at a mall

you know what i mean like if you're trying to buy say a purse that's whatever the expensive louis vuitton or louis vuitton purse yeah it's you want it to come from somewhere other than that store yeah i would think if you're going to go spend that much we saw let's go to a louis vuitton store somewhere i mean i'm saying even if you go's go to a louis vuitton store somewhere but i mean i'm saying even if you go we went to the louis vuitton store i don't know in my head i think i don't know how you would get it i guess you would go to the store maybe buy it online like would you want to buy it online then or you'd want to buy it from someone that sells those purses like oh there's this person they yeah i got this louis vuitton like there's a story

you want a story that's what i mean thatitton like there's a story you want a story that's what i mean that's what i'm trying to say you want a story if you're buying something like that you want a story of how you got it you don't want it to be i went i went down to the louis vuitton store and bought it like there needs like that's why people buy that stuff in new york those crazy purses because they want the story attached to how'd you get this purse you're like oh yeah we went to one of them in chinatown where they have the you would go down like this you know you have to like say some guy goes go to that guy and that guy's looking you go to that guy and he's like y'all hear about a person they go yeah and i remember we walked you go down these steps and

you walk down this real long hallway they shut the door behind you and you're like i don't know what's happening and then you get in so i mean there's like you know it's like this guy's telling you go to this guy it's like a drug deal and then you go walk down and you go in this room and then he's got all the all the purses that you want real real person i think they're i think they're real at that point. Yeah. They're not knockoffs. I think they're real, but maybe the knockoffs are straight-up knockoffs where it's not – usually there's something. They would always say – I don't know if I talk about this. In New York, if you go buy the purses on the street in New York City, you don't ever buy them from the guys that can properly just sit there all day,

that they have a stand. You got to buy it from the guys that if they're laid out on a blanket, those are the guys, because those guys are constantly having to grab it, wrap it up and run. So they're the ones that are going to have the real stuff. If you buy it from a guy that's allowed to just sit there all day, well well he's got the proper documentation to sell stuff so his purses are not going to be as good really you need them from the guy that's on the blankets i would have thought about the opposite yeah no well they're they're the ones that go get more trouble so their purses are more if you were trying to get a knockoff purse that's the one that's going to be more legit huh yeah have you ever lost your car at the mall?

Not like, not something that I remember. I mean, I definitely have forgot where I parked or I'm trying nothing off the top of my head that I can think of. I remember I went to the mall with my grandpa once. We had no idea where we parked and we walked around for hours looking for this car. Hours, wow. Yeah. Around the Montgomery Mall, which doesn't even exist anymore. We were just walking around the perimeter trying to find it.

I remember that. There was a case in, I think, Santa Monica now they have, maybe more malls have this, where it scans your license plate when you enter, like a camera does. And then if you can't find your car, you go to a kiosk, you got to know your license plate number, put it in, and it'll find it for you and tell you what floor and what row you're on. And they says it saves money because a lot of people are having mall security have to drive them around to find their car. Yeah. I don't like that at all. That sounds like one of those things where they're tracking

you and then they're convincing you that it's for some greater, oh, we're actually doing it to help you. It's like, no, they're just keeping track of where every car is on the property. For what reason? I don't know. They just want to know where you are. You know, they can keep track of when you're there, what time, you know. You got an iPhone and an Apple Watch on you. They can track you no matter what.

I'm just saying, yeah, it's just another thing. It's another one. Yeah. Now they know when I'm at the mall. They know what car I'm driving there. They already know. You don't think they're benefiting from that knowledge in any way? Yeah.

The government? No, this private company. Aliens? Whatever mall this is at. Bigfoot? Dogman? Who's they? I don't think I'm being crazy here.

I get told that a lot. Who's they? I get any argument I get in, someone always goes, well, who is they? And I go, I don't know who they is. They know who they is. I'll be honest, when somebody says, who is they? I'm like, maybe I made a mistake with this argument. Who's they?

I don't think it's crazy to think that a large corporation that owns a shopping complex is tracking you and benefiting from that information. Maybe so. There was one guy who lost his car for six months. At the mall? At a parking garage. He borrowed his buddy's car. This was in the UK.

And he went to a concert. And when he left, he walked around in the parking garage. Searching, searching, searching. And there was a bunch of parking garage. he couldn't find he walked around in the parking garage searching searching searching and there was a bunch of parking garage he couldn't remember which one he finally after like a week they just had a report the car stolen they thought somebody stole the car that's why i can't find it and then six months later security finally was driving like what is it with this car and they search it and they found out it was that guy's car yeah wow man how do you how do you feel about that when they

and it was when you pay to enter they said it's 5 000 pounds which would be equivalent to like 6 000 us dollars oh it just kept racking up yeah yeah did he have to pay it i don't know but they should pay him to be like if you can't do that if you can't find your car does he not did he not have the ticket on him? That's a good question. I don't know. Maybe he left it in the car because some of them you leave it in the car. Maybe.

Yeah. But he borrowed his buddy's car and six months it was missing. Yeah. Hard to come back from that. Yeah. Hey, can I borrow your car again? You know what, dude? You can take a new one.

Yeah, if you can find it. I found it interesting that I read that malls, they lay out like casinos. They don't want you to leave. So they set it up in a way that gets you disoriented. And there's even, it's called the Gruen Transfer, the Gruen Effect. It's named after the first guy who invented malls. And it's to try to give you a pleasant experience so you don't want to leave. Windowless mazes of stores, and it makes you buy more, supposedly.

And you talked about the scent thing. I believe that, yeah. A lot of scent marketing going on in malls in particular because they're indoors. A lot of smells can get trapped inside like they can't other places. So we're just being manipulated in so many ways. Like food or other stuff? It's just sensory overload. Food, food especially.

Yeah. Like if you walk around the mall and you start to smell Cinnabon, that is by design. Cinnabon puts ingredients- They want it to get out. They want it to get out. And it increases their sales by a huge percentage. They have ingredients in their cinnamon rolls that are only there to increase the

smell of it. So you don't even get that cinnamon roll? What's that? You don't even get that one? It's like a dummy one? Can you buy that one? That's in all the cinnamon rolls. They have ingredients in there

just designed to increase the smell of cinnamon rolls. Okay, that's its purpose. And they put those ovens right in front so everybody smells them. Some places, they'll go to vending machines and they'll take little strips of artificially chocolate smells and put it there by the vending machine. So you walk up to a vending machine, you start to smell chocolate, and that'll increase the Hershey's. And you don't believe in dog man i don't this is not this is this is not the conspiracy theory i mean this is this is you're on the verge of i mean if i was say i wanted you to believe in dog man i would think we have a window a door has opened and you're not far off i mean you're wearing a jacket

with that looks like a jacket that goes, here's all the malls we have in our store. All it is is just, I mean, logos. Dude, Starbucks. You like Starbucks. Starbucks has a, they have an Aroma Task Force. They have a division at the company. Type that in.

I want to see it pop up. Aroma Task Force at Starbucks. They have a division of the company designed... Now look, they don't have anything on their website about it. Oh, here we go. I'm not saying even their

thing, but I don't even see anything just popping up. Starbucks, they have a division of their company dedicated... Do you need your other computer to look all this stuff up is this one i need to open up my tour yeah you're like do you think this computer is good do you think apple's gonna let me see this stuff no this is then you pull out a you got like an old dvd player that you've made a computer that's how you go look at this website

yeah i'm not the best vehicle for this information. I'm realizing. I enjoy it though. Starbucks, they have a division of their company. They have people whose sole purpose is to, is to work on the scent in these places. Because if, if, if they weren't manipulating the smell in a Starbucks at all, it would just smell like cheese from the, from the breakfast food. Oh yeah. So they pump in coffee smell at these stores.

And when they're in malls, they pump in coffee smell at these stores and when they're in malls they pump out the smell yeah of coffee to to draw people in yeah i mean that's what i think of when i go is that a bad thing i mean once you want your store to no i'm not i'm not again i'm not saying it's an evil thing i'm just saying that's what i think of when i go into a mall. It's just sensory overload. We're being manipulated in all these ways because it's influencing customer behavior. Even the music. When you go into a mall, there are companies. One of them, when I worked at a marketing company, they were one of my clients. They would make playlists that they argued would drive customer behavior in a certain way. They said, we've got this playlist built out that if you play this at your store,

people will buy this kind of food. Yeah. Because it's just, you know, if you get a pulse going or something, it's crazy the ways that we're being manipulated. Well, it's like being listening to music.

I always think I don't listen to music a ton and I've actually tried to listen to more music when I drive just to like lighten your you know i would listen to like pop rock or something from 2000 pop rock and just it's like nice it's fun it's you know and like you try to make you in a better mood so the stuff does make you in a better i do when we do the playlist for our shows, that kind of fits your comedy. It's the experience when they walk in, you want people to maybe sing us. They're kind of singing a little bit with the song. They're like, oh, I love this song or whatever.

Just, yeah, it does get you in a better mood. Right. And it depends on the pace of the store, too. If it's a store where you're buying like a luxury, like a Rolex, you don't want like a fast paced rolex you want something a little more relaxed something that makes you thoughtful makes you you know yeah so there's all of that's going on well that boom boom like that was a american eagle was like the like dj music type wasn't american eagle holster holster there's another abercrombie finch right and that was uh abercrombie was like the DJ music type. Wasn't it American Eagle? Hollister. Hollister.

Hollister. There's another, Abercrombie & Finch. Right. And that was, Abercrombie & Finch, they wouldn't sell sizes over like 34. There's just,

you can't get it. So women couldn't buy clothes there. Women, specifically going after women. Yeah. They couldn't. But, well,

they could until they get knocked up and then their clothes get them knocked up, and then they go, I think you know where to go now, lady. And then that lady has to go to Kmart. But they wouldn't. I remember someone saying that they don't have jeans over 34 because they're like, yeah, we don't want you to wear our clothes. Well, they told people not to donate their clothes to Goodwill

because they didn't want ugly and poor people wearing their clothes. And I remember looking it up, and their CEO is one of the most weird looking people there he is that guy doesn't want ugly people wearing his clothes oh yeah you know that's the abercrombie and fish guy i think he looks nice yeah yeah yeah anyway i think that's one of the guys from the doppelgangers it looks like that guy looked like a guy that you said you can't say that he's like what why can't i say that like't say that. He's like, what? Why can't I say that? He just doesn't. He's just learning that. Yeah.

No, you can't. That's just mean to say. He's like, I don't think it's mean. Right. Is that Abercrombie or Fitch? I think his name is Mike. Oh. Mike Abercrombie Fitch.

I don't think he started the company. I think he was just the CEO at one point. Yeah. They play that music return and that music will run it will music will run you out i could see that it could i could go in a store and you're like i can't listen to this music and you just know well that store is not for me and then kids are going in like they love it yeah that's interesting yeah yeah yeah man you're being you're being manipulated well you're being manipulated old sales tactics all of it

right the problem is like it's getting scarier now because it's on it's in your phones and computers like so it's you used to have to go somewhere to enjoy

I think you're going to miss the days of going to a mall and being manipulated like you know you see an old man like it's an old trick and

yeah you know that's a dim lighting and whatever. That's how you move merchandise. Or not Seinfeld. Morty Seinfeld. Morty Seinfeld.

He's on the raincoats. Yeah. Yeah, it was dim lighting. Stories are what sell this merchandise. Oh, that's what Peterman said, yeah. That's what Peterman says, and then he says. Cheap fabric and. Yeah, cheap fabric and dim lightings.

How you move... That's how you move merchandise. Merchandise. That's funny. Yeah, very funny. How you move merchandise. The Jasper Mall documentary, it showed a mall Santa, and it kind of showed him, and I thought he did a good job.

He did a good job. You like how serious it takes. I like seeing him backstage. I do too. They did good shooting it. It's a very, I mean, towards the end, we kind of kept moving along. We're like, all right.

But it's like watching Santa get ready in a very nice, quiet thing. It's kind of, you get, it's entrancing. Entrancing. It is. But they showed the guy with the shirt off. That works. That worked? Yeah. Entrancing or trancing's entrancing. Entrancing. It is. But they show the guy with the shirt off. That works. That worked?

Yeah. Entrancing or trancing? Entrancing. I mean, I've never heard entrancing used like that. It puts you in a trance. Puts you in a trance. There you go. Entrancing is a word.

Hey! Entrancing. All right. Pine one. So I looked up how much mall Santas make make yeah um do you guys think they make a lot a little if they're i they can't make a lot of game can be a full-time job unless you're crushing it oh i think some people my guess is there are people that they're just seasonal workers they're santas and then that's kind of the job i was thinking a little more maybe ten dollars an hour

a little more than minimum wage yeah Yeah, I'll say $12. The median pay for a mall Santa is $30 per hour. Wow. But those at the top of the sale can earn more than $100 per hour. Most mall Santas make somewhere between $5,000 and $15,000 for six weeks of work. The cream of the crop can make $20,000 or more. Wow. I mean, just you have a big year.

I mean, imagine that. You're probably retired. you're making money and i think there's a big difference between some some mall santas they just got the fake beard and all that and some guys look like you have a real beard i mean i think you move to the top yeah you're you're just gigantic at the top because you have to be committed to that basically all year right yeah and so you look like santa all year and everybody's going you look like santa all year long you're like i know you're like Santa all year long. You're like, I know. You're committed. Yeah, you make some pretty good coin on this. But imagine that.

You just work for six weeks, 20 grand, out. Yeah, especially if you're retired. That's great. Yeah, you're retired. Yeah, I mean, you're just like, you get a thousand money. You get to have fun. You go to the mall. Yeah, that's crazy.

We're about to have to wrap up. Is there any more fun facts? Not fun. I'm just going to have some crime. Yeah. Just crime stories. That sounds fun. Yeah.

You want to hear those? Yeah. Is there a future? Any like. Future is not good. That's. They're not going to be around much longer. Yeah. We should always look up the feet.

Like I always like to look up the future of something. And it's funny that malls there. There's not. I did look it up. It's i always like to look up the future of something and it's funny that malls there there's not i did look it up it's it doesn't look good kids used to gather at malls you know that was the hangout now they can find each other you know online without having to do that online shopping is a big thing used to be a status symbol to go to the mall but now people want to do selfies places other than malls. Yeah. So a lot of just technologies. You're going to need to do outdoor malls, probably seasonal malls. You're going to have to make them events.

Yes, and attractions have to be connected to them. I think what's still appealing about a mall is there's no other place in American life where there's just a cross-section of everybody. Yeah. cross-section of everybody yeah i can't think of another place where you go and you just see people all different you know wealth levels races everybody's just around so i think that's still appealing about it you know yeah well i mean no one's there now but yeah i mean some of them were getting dangerous i mean there was there was a mall and i thought memphis was called murder mall look up murder mall murder mall and i think it think it was known that gangs would be there. I mean, some malls were crazy.

The largest mall in Tennessee is Westtown Mall in Knoxville. Mall of Murder. Mall of Murder, sorry. Your sound's better. In the early 90s, several deadly shootings and irrational robberies occurred near the mall's parking lots. These events led to the Mall of Memphis developing a reputation for being unsafe and being nicknamed the Mall of Murder.

Wow. So that, I mean, that hurts. Number of anchor tenants, three. They had three anchor tenants. Yeah. What's another crime? A crime? Well, a crime? Well, there was one, a serial killer in Boca.

Raton? Yeah, Boca Raton. The Boca Vista? Yeah, the Boca Vista. In 2007, a 52-year-old woman was kidnapped and murdered. That was in March. In August, a woman and her son were kidnapped and Ty found in the car, but left alive.

And then in December of that year, a woman and her seven-year-old daughter were also kidnapped and later found bound and killed and all in the same year at this place. And they, they, no one has yet to be arrested for that. Oh, still still on the loose.

They, she said they, the one people who live, they said they, the person blindfolded her and, yeah, and so they're still

looking for that. That same year, a 19-year-old shot and killed eight people and wounded four others at a mall in Omaha, Nebraska,

West Roads Mall before killing himself. What year was that? 2007. Wow. I don't even remember that. That's kind of sad. Is there a,

I mean, is there just a lighter note to get off on? I mean, I, it's funny. It's like the crime. We should have gotten that earlier. Yeah.

But you think like crime's going to, you know, I think sometimes I, I wish I like them. I want those stories too. I think it's going to be like some, this guy tried to have a fake store and they're like, Oh,

that's funny. And it's like, it's just going four people. Guy was a family was tied up in their truck of their car and they were luckily found and they both lived. And yeah, pretty crazy. Like,

wow. You're like, who did it? Still don't know. Still don't know who did it. He's still out. He's probably listening. Oh,

he's probably listening. He's gone. All right. Still make it. This is that this was what helped all he needed to get back going again. Escalators. Escalators were, malls were one of the first places escalators were put in. Wow.

You know, Las Vegas was the first I saw an escalator outside, and I was blown away. Outdoors? An outside escalator. I don't know if I've seen it. Maybe I have. At an airport, they probably have one. Now, once you see it, you realize, yeah, it's not as crazy.

But I remember thinking, like, wow, dude. Like, I remember going to Las Vegas. They have escalators. They're just outside. And you're like, I don't know. I didn't know how to wrap my head around it. It could get rained on? It can get rained on.

Yeah. It must be waterproof. I'll tell you the one thing I'm snobby about is I walk up and down escalators. Oh, yeah? You don't just ride them? No, I think they're meant to be. I think that's the whole point is that they're meant to be walked up like stairs. If you're holding a bag or suitcase or something, I get it.

But if you're just walking like at a mall, I'll walk up and down them. I don't think so because they have stairs also. That's in case the escalators break you know well then as mitch headberg said they just become stairs so they can't it's i don't think so because they have regular stairs so if you want to go walk then go use the regular stairs versus like a moving sidewalk yeah that is meant to walk on at an airport because that's meant to just speed up your walk because it's a long way to walk to speed up your stair walking i think that's the intent i i don't i don't think it is i just most small escalators aren't that long because it's just usually you're going to the next floor i feel like getting off yeah so

you think that's more of a reason to walk it? I think so. Yeah. I could see maybe it was a really long one like you see at the airport or some places. Like Atlanta's airport's got enormous ones. But you ain't going to walk those because it's so long, no one's walking it. It's just so funny to me. You'll see people walking super fast at an airport. And then they get to the escalator and they just stop.

Yeah. And I'm like, you can just keep walking. If no one's in front of you, I would say keep going. But I think the general is there. Yeah. It's a, it's a ride.

Okay. And then, you know, so, I mean, uh, all right. Well,

that's, do we have anything else? That's it. We did it. I think that's it. That's it. Support your local mall. Support your,

go to your local malls, man. You know, they are regular people. They are just regular people's stores. There's not, I your local mall. Support your, go to your local malls, man. You know, they are regular people. They are just regular people's stores. There's not, I think people can think too, malls are a chain.

Right. And they think that these, these, these guys just start these stores. It is no different than a store being on a corner of a street. Go to your malls, buy some stuff, some fun stuff in a mall.

You can get a t-shirt with a wolf on it. Where are you going to get that? You're going to get it at a mall. Thank you guys for listening. As always, leave in the comments. I got two more dates for the One Night Only Tour. Drive-in dates. San Diego and Anaheim, December 5 and 6.

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The Galleria. Yeah. And then O'Fallon, Missouri. I'm headlining Backdoor Comedy Club right outside St. Louis. We were just there. We were just there. They're on the drive-in tour. Go see that.

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