The Nateland Podcast - 270: #270 Youth Sports feat. Jay Flake

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

Nate is not back from the Emmys but the guys are joined by fellow comedian and sports referee Jay Flake to discuss youth sports. Jay shares stories of getting heckled by parents, yelled at by coaches, and getting into disagreements with fellow referees. Plus the guys share their top youth sports movies. Ridge: https://www.Ridge.com/NATELAND Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% Off @Ridge with code NATELAND at https://www.Ridge.com/NATELAND #Ridgepod #ad Factor: FactorMeals.com/nate50off Eat smarter at FactorMeals.com/nate50off and use code nate50off to get 50% off your fist box, plus free breakfast for 1 year. AG1: https://drinkag1.com/nate Start taking your sleep seriously with AGZ. Head to https://drinkag1.com/nate to get a FREE Welcome Kit with the flavor of your choice that includes a 30 day supply of AGZ and a FREE frother. Helix: Helixsleep.com/nate Go to helixsleep.com/nate for their extended Labor Day Sale: From September 9th to September 30thget 25% Off Sitewide.

Okay, hello, folks, and hey, bear, welcome to the Nateland podcast. My name's Dusty Slay, and I will be leading the charge today, and I'm excited about it. I want to get, you know... Five seconds in. You didn't even introduce your shit. That's like you ever see a comic that wants a drink but just can't get a laugh big enough to take the drink. If you're listening and you're like, what happened?

Did it pause? No, Dusty's already taking a drink. No, that's how I like to do a podcast. I like for people to go, did this thing cut off? Yeah, I do that. And I'm here with my co-host, Brian Bates, as you know, as breakfast. the most important meal of the day, as I like to call Brian.

And then we have Aaron Weber here with us, the yard ball enthusiast who has really gotten sponsored by Yard Ball now. And then our special guest with a special coming out soon, please give it up for Jay Flake. All right, all right. How's everybody doing? We have the I-8 time. Yeah, yeah. That's Black Dusty Slay. You have an eye time.

black bestie and we're pumped we're all pumped to be here jay's very funny comic in nashville first time on the podcast welcome in thank you guys i'm glad to be here if you've seen me on the road for the last year and a half or so jay was probably with me he's been doing shows with me all over so excited to finally have them sitting in on nateland and he has a natland uh i don't know a showcase Nate Land presents the showcase. Is that what it? Yeah, yeah.

You have one of those coming out. This Friday. This Friday. Yeah. I just got all this information. I knew that you had one coming out, but this sheet was just handed to me as we began. Literally a second before we started a record. So let me just read it.

Nateland presents the showcase season three. Tune in to the Nateland YouTube channel for the premiere of Jay Flake. His showcase premieres this Friday night, September 19th. That is great. Correct. It was handed to you up a second before, but you decided when the show starts, so you could have read it ahead of time. You guys wouldn't have allowed that. You're right. People weren't alluded impatient. Yeah, it would have allowed.

Now, Aaron, what is it about Jay that makes you like him enough to take him on the road for you with a year and a half, for a year and a half? Man, you ever thought about it? I might need to take a sip of water real quick. No, Jay is great. funny comic fun hang off stage and I think you're going to see you're going to see how funny is this episode

is that a boring I mean what do you want me to answer his cue score is high what do you want me to say I don't know what's a cue score I don't really know

let me ask you this Jay who's your favorite college football team no today oh there you go that's a big part of it yeah yeah

yeah and I bet it came that a year and a half ago and you're like no no Aaron's Notre Dame. I know a Notre Dame fan. No, no, no, no. He'd been knowing I was a Notre Dame fan before then.

I forget, we had a time about college football like three or four years back. Yeah. And I mentioned it and whatever. And he was like, you're Catholic? I was like, no, I just got NBC. That was all that was into it. It was like every Saturday, they was on TV. It used to be the Braves and the Cubs when I was a kid.

I'm a Cubs fan too because of the same reason. They were on TV all the time. Cubs was on during the day. I used to get to watch them. WGM. Yeah, that was fun with Harry Carey back. Yes, sir, with the big glasses. Yeah.

Yeah, man. Yeah, it was fun. Love some Harry Carey. Yeah. We'll take me out to the ball game, 7th and Stretch. Yeah. Take me out. It was fun. It was a good time.

All right, I'm just going to read these real quick because it's very short. We are taping Ryan Hamilton's Netflix special two shows October 4th at the Neptune Theater in Seattle. We have some tickets left. November 4th. Nate has a full weekend of Big Dumb Eyes shows in Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, and Arkansas. check out the tour vlogs on the Nate Lynn YouTube channel. Good deal. Okay.

Cool, cool, cool. You see, I'm wearing Vanderbilt. Yeah, yeah, they won't. You got a huge logo on that shirt. Coming from a guy wearing that hat. Give me a break. You're like a tourist. You look like Eddie Murphy coming to America when he first shows up.

This hat was given to me this weekend. by a fan. Well, I hope so. I think it's a good-looking hat. I mean, you show up in New York with that hat on. He's definitely getting robbed. He's definitely not from around here. Yeah.

I think it's a great hat, guys. Well, I think he's a great shirt. It's a good hat. Hughes logo. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, Vaney had a big win over South Carolina. Yeah, man.

I'd like to point out Vanderbilt, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia Tech, John Christine, Missouri, Greg Warren's team, all ranked higher than Notre Dame. Wow. That's cool, man. That's where we was going with this? Yeah. Outstanding. We'll see how long it lasts.

We definitely see how long that last. Funny thing is, it's like, what is the name ranked? 23rd? 24th, I think. 24th. 0 and 2 in rank 24 that has basically never happened. That speaks a lot. Vandy's 3 and 0 and their 20th.

Just barely ahead of you. Yeah. But pretty cool. All right. Well, that died, but I've really not been watching sports. so I don't have a lot to add to it. I feel like I'm out now. I don't know what happened.

Out on all sports? I feel like it. Well, last week you were all excited about Auburn. Well, I was excited about being there on the campus, being around. Everyone was very nice to me. I was excited about it. But I just feel like I'm kind of like, I don't know, maybe as the season goes on, I'll get more into it. It's week four.

You got time. But I just feel like in previous years, I'm like, I'm, you know, I'm like ready, you know, a couple weeks before week one. I'm like gearing up. I'm excited, you know. Well, this last week has been exciting when it comes to football. Breakdown, it's been some exciting games. Yeah, a lot of great games. Yeah, Bates named out some upsets that messed up a lot of parlias out there.

Yeah, yeah. Especially mine. Is this college football? College football and NFL had a great year. As I'm saying, like, upsets and college football now, it doesn't, it's like, what's even an upset now? Like, we don't know even how. Vanity Beach, South Carolina's.

Yeah, but it's actually blowing them out. When Vandy beat Alabama last year, it's an upset. But now it's like, South Carolina's never good. So. But they ranked 11. They ranked 11. They thought they were going to have a good year. This is, I don't even disagree with the point you're making, Dusty,

but I just remembered after you said the Super Bowl was boring, the year that it went to overtime. But going to overtime doesn't, I mean, to me, doesn't make it. I mean, if you're, if there's nothing going on and that each team scored a touchdown, but yet here we are in overtime, that isn't necessarily, it just means it's longer and they get extra ad revenue. That's fair. Dragging it out doesn't make it interesting.

That's fair. I don't think any team goes into it thinking, you know what, let's just drag this game out. Well, I think the NFL. Another 30 minutes. I'm just saying, I'm not saying I'm a. against anybody watching it. I'm just saying something in me feels like it's switched over, and I'm just not as into it now. But you've probably gone through periods of your life. I know I have where you're in and out of things, right? You care more about it this year than

you did the year before, and vice versa. Like, maybe you'll be back. But I just feel like it's been a gradual each year. Like, I'm just less in. Maybe it's because I have, you know, I have two kids now, and I'm like, I don't know, I just, there's less time to just watch it yeah I used to spend all Saturday all day in front of the TV watching college football now just those days old

squeezing in if I'm home you know I get even less time the best chance I get to watch the games on the road in my hotel room before the show but the Tennessee Georgia game you know I'm like this is great

I'm going to get to see the end of this game then he misses that field go he goes overtime and I had to leave go do the show I had to go do a show and when I walked out the door he was lining up for the 50s so I didn't even know what happened to like a hour and a half you couldn't even wait for him to kick it I had to go

like I really I was already pushing it was I was like I got to get out of here he's lined up for the field goal and you won't wait for the snap I was out of there I had to go were you opening for Aaron no no no no no no I was saying this guy's a stickler no no no no well I was taking my wife with she wanted to go too so you know how they go oh come on you gotta be late it could be a wreck it could be this it could be I'm wearing this White Sox hat because a couple of, oh, yeah, you're a Cubs fan, sorry. A couple weeks ago was in Chicago, our friend Adam, who's a fan of the podcast, works for the White Sox, got me tickets to the White Sox game. Now, the White Sox last year was the worst team in history of baseball, right?

Yeah. Yeah. This year, they're still the worst team in the American League. But not only did they win that game against the Yankees, they've been on a heater since I've been to that game. So aren't the White Sox supposed to be coming to Nashville? There has been some talk of rumor about that over the years. Yep. But we're definitely getting a team.

I think it'll be an expansion team. But the White Sox are one. They've been so bad lately. That's one of the ones that gets thrown around this. They might move somewhere else. It was discussion with the A's before they went to Vegas. And the White Sox's been going back and forth. But they would change the White Sox name, right?

It wouldn't be like the Nashville White Sox. I think I'd like that. I think they probably would change it, but I like the White Sox. Tennessee, would it be Nashville or would it be Tennessee? What about Music City? Oh. The Music City White Sox. Oh, that's pretty fun.

Yeah. Yeah. Can you just make up a city name? I think you can call it whatever you want. Okay. Right? I mean, Tampa, Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay is water. We could call it the Cumberland River, White Sox as we wanted to.

Yeah, I guess that's a fair point. I think it's always either the city or the state, But I guess that's true. We got the Rocket City Trash Pandas. Monterly, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Huh. We could do.

Where's that at, Huntsville? Huntsville, yeah. We could have fun with it. Yeah, yeah. Where were you at this weekend, Brian? This weekend, I was in Brookhaven, Mississippi, at the Brookhaven Little Theater. First time there. Great show.

Oh, with Vents? Yeah, my friend, Vince Fabra. Okay. You know Vince? Yeah, I know Vince. Yeah. Some people last week thought, I was serious when I asked you if he knew him. Oh, okay.

And they were at your Huntsville show that we were both on. And they were like, you just met, you were with him last week. I was joking. Yeah. I was joking. But with Vince Fabra, great show. A lot of folks came out. Yeah, I was trying to think of anything crazy that happened, but not really.

Just a good show and good time. You had a good time at the Jackson Airport? Oh, gosh. Oh, yeah. Tell us about that. I've never flown in and out of Jackson before. So Jackson, Mississippi, the airport was actually maybe a little bit bigger than I expected, but I got there and first to go get the rental car.

And I always check in ahead of time on my rental car. I always do all the information online, so you're supposed to be good to go, you know. I don't even know what that means because it's just like going to the doctor when you fill out the forms ahead of time. You just fill them out again when you get there. Well, you can go straight to the lot. You can go straight to the lot. Some places, I guess it depends on the car. company, right? This was dollar. Dollar doesn't do that.

Dollar is the name of the company? Yeah. Dollar rental car. Yeah, me and Jay, no. Yeah. We don't make the big bug yet. I should speak for Jay, but no, I don't. Then every rental car place, say mine was dollar. You go over the dollar. If you're getting a car from thrifty hurts everyone go to this one person that's available so then you get in line you get up there and she's like have a seat it's going to be a while she said have a seat at the counter she said you can stay in but i would sit all you're doing is dropping off the car no i'm picking it up oh you're picking it up i just got there oh oh yeah and i waited an hour yeah enterprise you can go right

to the right to the law yeah okay all right sorry i learned that being a row and he was i was standing at i'm standing up there waiting on him he's like I'm already outside. I was like, yeah, it's a different type of running place what I'm used to. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

She said it's going to be a while. She said, have a seat. Yeah. Yeah. So it was an hour, and she called me up there to get my car. And not just me waiting. A lot of people are waiting. Everybody's frustrated.

And I said, are you guys short staff today? She goes, no. Wow. And I almost said, so y'all are just incompetent. And, but I didn't say that. I said, Okay, so it just takes an hour, I guess. And she said, we have to wait to cars come back,

then they have to check them to make sure they're good or whatever. She acted like it was just a car shortage. Yeah. Also, it sounds like that's a unique problem to that airport. You're like, no, that's how every airport's doing it. Yeah. Well, we got to get the car back and clean it. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Check it out. No, that type of thing, clean. And then yesterday, flying back, there was one guy in the entire airport, one TSA agent checking everybody's ID for the entire airport. And there's two lines. There's general boarding and there's TSA precheck, which I think clear was also. Maybe they don't have clear there.

I would think not. Yeah, okay. Got one guy? I doubt it. Yeah, I didn't see any signs for clear. So there's general boarding and TSA precheck. I'm TSA precheck. It's moving.

The guy's only acknowledging that. The general board, he's just totally ignoring. And everybody's just standing there. And about the time I get through, I hear some guy yell like, dude, you can't just do this. this is not fair. You're not going to, we've been here a lot longer than them. He's like, I'm just doing my job.

And then they said, we're going to miss our flight. And people are just getting outraged because there's just one guy. He's just ignoring most of the people. He should be rotating it. He should be. Maybe even like two precheck to one general board. Yeah. Preach.

One of each still gives a preference to precheck, I think. Yeah. I don't know. I would say two precheck, one general boarding. That's what I would agree. Totally ignoring general boarding. Wow. I love that.

I love that it was when it was when you got through that they were like, all right, this is enough. That guy? That guy. We don't even believe he got pre-checked. Let's check him out. But it reminds me. Come on him. That reminded me the first time we went to Catch a Can.

Y'all remember that? Catch a can Alaska. Yeah, yeah. They had one guy. I didn't have Precheck at the time Aaron did. They had one guy. He was like, everybody in the same line. Like, his pre-check didn't even matter.

He was like, Pre-check. shit. Get back there with him. The Ketchikan Airport, their security is just like, hey, just walk through this hallway. Yeah, you're good. I like that. They kind of just look at you and they go, yeah. He looks good. You know what I go to a place where people know, you're like, I know him, come on.

Yeah, they know everybody coming. Oh, Carl, where are you having? And then I got down, that's basically it. There was no AC in the airport, so it was so hot. In Mississippi? Jeez. I got down to my gate, and they have these TVs everywhere. You know, just showing, like, I don't know, the history channel and whatever.

And I said, hey, this is, this is the Nashville Gate. Would you guys mind putting on the Titans game? And they're like, ah, we can't find the remote. No AC in the airport. Yeah. In Mississippi, I know it's a black woman humming in a corner somewhere. Well, I wasn't going to say anything. Yeah, you're correct.

With a church fan. actually she was my southwest agent like the sweet tea honey yeah so that was my weekend what about you guys oh you missed the Tennessee Georgia man I missed it I had I had the headline at Joker's comedy

club in Clarksville yeah yeah all right DJ Prior there yeah DJ prior was there yeah he actually hosted the whole thing okay so we had a great time man yeah I've done that that's great so as you know you know Clarksville is really about 45 minutes away from here, but that club was about an hour and a half. So that's why I had to hear up and get up out of there.

Okay. Why is it so far? Like it's like deep on the other side of Parksville. Oh, okay. Okay. That's funny because the exact same thing happened to me, Alabama, Tennessee game last year when I did it. And that game went like really close to.

And I had to hit the road for Jokers. Man. That's a game where Tennessee won and they tore the, yeah, yeah, wow. Yeah, that was a big one. Yeah. It's almost like they look at the college football schedule and go, all right, we'll book them on. What are the best games of the year? Let's book them on that.

I was in Denver, Colorado, with Nate, three shows at the ball arena where the Nuggets play. Yeah. Pretty crazy. That's wild. Pretty crazy. Nate, as you know, if you listen, Nate flew in from L.A. He was rehearsing for the Emmys all week, did the three shows, immediately flew out after the shows and did the Emmy. So, Nate will, when Nate's back, I'm sure we'll hear more in-depth.

But he was doing that. It was just a crazy weekend. A lot of chaos, which was kind of fun. Yeah. The shows were like, Denver's such a good comedy town. We were talking about it. Like, I don't know. The shows there are so great.

It is a good comedy town. Really good. And I'll say this. Jay and I will be at Comedy Works. Denver next week. We plugged the show on stage. That show sold out. We just added a show at a comedy work. So there's still, there's still a chance to come see us next week. That's a hot club. Hot club. That's great. That's super fun. A lot of Nate's butt. Joe List came by. Rory

Scoville was there. Luke Knoll who's with, not Luke Monez, who is with Joe List. It was just a fun weekend, fun hang. So I'm sure we'll hear more about the Emmys and stuff when Nate's back. I'm going to get the inside scoop on some stuff. Yeah, and Leon Morgan also on the Emmys. Leon Morgan was there. James Austin Johnson was in that intro sketch. There's a lot of Tennessee going on there.

What about you, Dusty? Where are you at? I went to Binghamton, New York on Friday with my friend. Sorry, that sounds like Brian's tour. Well, Binghamton's very nice. I know. That's where my friend Bill Lake is at. He opened for me.

and uh who sounds like a guy that would open for me yeah bill's great you go no bill's good and a uh and a fan gave me this hat yeah very good hat quality hat very thick yeah and uh and then

is that bedazzled uh i don't think it's bedazzled it's got some beads on it yeah and it's a lot of work when under this hat and uh And I, and then I went to Buffalo, New York on Saturday. Great shows. Buffalo, they were both very good crowds. The Buffalo crowd was really great.

And then I did an hour and a half, both shows. So I'm breaking my own record almost every time. Are you going in with it with the goal of doing that? Or is it just you're getting more comfortable going that long? I just, I don't know. I'm kind of at this place where I'm like, I'm doing one show a night. I'm not getting as many reps as I'd like. like to get. So I'm like, I want to do all my jokes. All my jokes I'm working on. I want to make

sure I do them in the show. And then I feel good, you know, the hardest part's starting the show. Once you're up there and you're going, I'm like, let's just go with it. It's one show. Everybody paid money to be here. Let's give them a show. I love that last week when you did an hour and a half, you're like, well, you know, Auburn. That's basically my hometown guys. Of course. I'm here in Binghamton, New York, in Buffalo. Once I realized I could do it. I mean, in Binghamton, I even missed a chunk.

I was riffing a bunch. Yeah. I missed a chunk of my jokes. And in Buffalo, I didn't riff as much, but they were such a great crowd, so into it. So, you know, they gave me like, I went out and they cheered. And then I was like, all right. And then they gave me a second applause.

And I don't really get that. So it's very nice. As soon as that happened, you're like, man, I'm giving y'all two hours. Yeah. Well, it is like, yeah, well, I want this show to be good now. They seem very happy to be here. So I need this show to be good. Yeah.

So usually do you just do an hour before then? Well, like at a club, I'll do an hour. But, yeah, I mean, I started doing, you know, an hour 10, and then it slowly moved to an hour 20. And then in my kind of a hometown show, I did an hour 30. And then I was like, I can just do that now. Now. Do you see a big appreciation from the people when you do more than an hour? I think so. I mean, I see people mention it sometimes online, that they were like, you know, impressed that I was on stage for so long.

Are you giving updates on your time throughout the set? That would be funny. You're like, just hit an hour. We're not even close to done. Car your babysitter. Hour 15 still going. They used to say like, you know, George Carlin, Bill Cosso. me like comics like old school comics like that would come out no opener do two hours and i i don't know that i want to do no opener but i do like the idea of doing two hours yeah i love that i mean i'm like you know i don't want to do no opener i do like the idea of my opener doing five minutes right exactly and it's crazy and it's crazy hey bud i'm doing two hours

and 30 minutes a night yeah i need to go up there and just say my name and come back exactly Exactly. And then you can just go home. You can do the five and then head on on. You can beat a Chattanooga by the time Dusty gets offstage. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy.

That's what I'm talking about. That's awesome. It is great. But it was great. Super fun. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, comedy's fun.

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I wonder, is it worth driving out there just to see it? You two together? Yeah. I'd love to see that. Take a boat ride. What is that? Take a boat ride. Yeah, go on to the falls.

Do a night tour. February 14. Get a bottle of champagne. You know what I mean? What? That's crazy. Yeah. Is it a valetine show?

It's in October, dude. I just want to know if it's one of the... There have been things on the road. People go, you've got to go see it, and you drive there, and you're like, all right. They do say the Canadian side is better than the American side. But it's the same fall. It's the same falls.

Well, what it is is the American side has the better, bigger falls, but you see it better from the Canadian side. Oh, okay. But that's where I've seen it. And it is really nice. Okay. I think it's, I mean, I don't know. I think it's worth it.

I want to go check it out. Where's all that water coming from? That's what I'm always saying. It's so much water that I'm like, where is this coming from? It just keeps flowing. It's a river, right? They pipe it in, I guess. I don't know.

I've never been there. It's so much water. The Niagara River? Maybe. I mean, you have to be, right? If that's where it falls. I think they cycle it around. It's a, the water at Niagara Falls comes from a system of interconnected rivers and lakes, primarily the Niagara River, which itself is fed by four of the five Great Lakes, Erie, Huron, Michigan, and Superior.

So it's got four of the Great Lakes going into a river, and that's why there's got so much power behind. But like, you know, you're just like, you know, if you, let's say you drain, you empty a, you cooler, right? And as you use that little thing, and when it first starts coming, it's flowing hard. But then eventually, it runs out of water. And the flow stops. And there's

so much water. I don't know how many gallons are pumping over a minute, but it is unbelievable. And so... And then where does that water go? What's it comes over the falls? Yeah. 40 million gallons every

minute. That's what I'm saying. Wow. The high highest flow rate of any waterfall on the planet. Not the biggest, but it's got the most water going through it. Got the best flow. That's what you need, the best flow. That's all you need, man. It's all you need, man. Let's see if I can, look, here's some pictures. Okay. Of you there on the Canadian side? Yeah. Is it worth going to the Canadian side to see it? I would say it depends on what the border is looking like. Look at that. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, that's crazy. Are you getting hit with the water from it?

I think you can feel a little bit of a mist. Is it a mist in there? They do let you take a little boat ride, a little tour down in it, and then you get close, and I think you do get pretty wet down there. Like on the office. Yeah, Jim and Pam, got married. Oh, okay. We decided to do that I would not be bringing champagne.

I would be. I didn't know what Brian was actually saying, but I just get running with it. Jay wants to make it very clear. We will be driving in separate cars to Niagara. Falls. Different boats also. I think it's great out there. And I don't know, honestly, I don't know why it would be romantic. I don't, I just think, there's a lot of water out here.

I don't think, ooh, I'd like to really kiss my wife out here. Do you think like a mountain? You know what about a sunset at Golden Hour, you know? Yeah, I guess so. I just don't know why those things in particular are romantic. You don't like nature. I'm wet. I do.

Nature doesn't, it doesn't go, you know, like, oh, I'd like to, where's my wife, you know. It seems like to be extremely loud. Yeah. So loud. So loud. I didn't even think about the noise. We got a hotel where we were able to look out over the falls. That's awesome.

And then at night, they kind of light it up. So you spent a whole weekend there. Just one night. Okay. You remember in Superman 2 when they go to Niagara Falls? and that little boy falls off the falls in Superman's saying? Yeah. Does he reverse the flow of the river or something?

He could have. Superman just stopped the floor of the river to save a child. And then Lois Lane, she's convinced Clark Kent is Superman, which of course she's right. So she jumps into Niagara Falls because she knows he'll have to save her. And he didn't do it. Yeah, he didn't save her. And she dies? No, but that was the last Superman movie, I guess.

I'm being tired of her name. Just let her fall Superman like, I'm not going out for Valentine's Day anymore, guys. Okay, do you guys want to read comments? Let's get into it. The comments come from Twitter,

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gems actually sounds like a very good name and their comment goes dusty you have been genuinely missed the fun eccentric uncle that everyone loves

to see at the family get together. So thanks, Jims. That's cool. I was back last week. Well, that's what they're saying. Yeah, I think you were missed. Okay.

Well, I appreciate that. You weren't all the way back last week. Be honest. Now you're back. I think I'm that uncle for the people on this podcast, but not for my own nephews and nieces. They go, great, Dusty's coming to dinner. Uncle Dusty's coming to dinner.

Like, yeah, he's going to ask us about our jobs and then ask us what we'd really like to be doing with our lives. I try to inspire people in my family and they're not hearing it. He's going to talk all Thanksgiving about how it's a fake holiday. Yeah. No, that's the one he believes in. Yeah, that's true. That is true. But, you know, I tried to, I had a niece one time.

I still have her. But I, uh, I asked. What job would she want to do if she could do anything? And she said, you know, I really like working in a factory. I go, no, not a job that you think you could get. I'm saying a job if you could just pick anything, what would it be? She goes, I don't know. I really just like working in a factory. But what are they making in the factory? I don't know. I think. VHS tapes. I think for her, she means I don't have to talk to people and I just want to do this. That is a good answer. to end the conversation. What do you want to meet when you grow up? I want to work in the factory. All right, well, good luck. Yeah, okay.

Jacob Harper, as a doctor, okay, Jacob. As a doctor, it is obviously wild to me. Absolutely. What? Absolutely one. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

As a doctor, it is absolutely wild to me that Dusty, the king of we need to avoid dangerous chemicals is so pro-tabacco. Just because it comes out of the ground does not mean it isn't horrible for you. Well, Jacob, Dr. Harper, I said, you know, like cigarettes, I think,

are probably loaded with chemicals. But I just think that cigars are okay. I just think that... In moderation, obviously. Yeah, I just think that, you know, I don't think that they're low. loaded with chemicals. Like coffee, they say, has the most pesticides of, like, anything, you know?

And that comes out of the ground. Yeah, and it's like, Jacob, I wasn't recommending it for people. I don't know. Maybe I didn't. Who knows? I think it was just for your kids. Come on, Dr. Harper. I just think tobacco is – this is why I think that.

The government is always very anti-tobacco. But they don't really seem to be anti any of these other chemicals that we're eating and drinking all the time. You know, they're like, oh, yeah, eat the red dye 40s. It's fine. But yet they're so against tobacco. It makes me think tobacco's got something good going on. It's like when CVS stops selling cigarettes, but you can still get a box of donuts there. Right.

That'll kill you too. Yeah. I'm just saying it makes it seem like tobacco's got something going on with it. Are they really against tobacco that much? I've seen the cigarette pack in Canada And I was like If you're really against tobacco This is how to pack you

Well that's true But it's like somebody would Yeah they put the pictures on Yeah They put the pictures on what tobacco will do to you Yeah We've got the tobacco industry Spends a lot of money

To make sure that stuff does not get on those boxes So here They got a pretty big lobbying I just it just makes me I'm I am against cigarettes But there's other tobaccos That I suppose Do you remember that movie

Thank you for Smoking? Yeah Yeah Yeah, that was a pretty good movie. Aaron Eckhart. Yeah. That was good. And his friends were, more of this, guns and alcohol, were the other...

ATF. Alcohol, tobacco, firearm. I feel like he had two other buddies and they all compared their jobs. And I think he had the easiest as far as keeping people addicted. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But I still stand by, my probe tobacco stand. That'd be so funny if he was like, yeah, I'm a doctor of literature or something.

Like, it's not even a medical doctor. through a Ph.D. English lit. Ellie Conzel. I feel like Greece is missing from Brian's movie list. The scene where Sandy smokes a cigarette at the end of the movie is the only time I thought smoking looked cool. I agree that Greece makes smoking look cool. But I don't really, I think Sandy for a second makes it look cool. And when she throws it down and then crushes it out, I think they make it look cool throughout that whole movie. I love that in Greece,

all these people look like they're in their 40s. Aren't these supposed to be high school kids? Yeah, they are. They're smoking. Could have been. Hey, good point, Dusty. DeRolto was 14 when he filmed it.

Now, that scene, she doesn't know how to smoke a cigarette and her friends have to show her. Yeah. So, I don't know why it's funny. I wouldn't necessarily call it cool. I think she looks pretty cool smoking. It's just a pretty girl smoking.

And to me, that's when she looks the worst in the whole movie. Oh, I don't know. Interesting. I don't think so. I like her much more. Once she lit a cigarette, it was over for you. Well, the way she's dressed and everything. This is my favorite look.

Yeah. For sure. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that fits both of our personalities. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, Sandy here, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. It's Danny who lost it with his Letterman jacket. But, you know, he even takes it off. I mean, they both leave looking like this. That song, I got chills, they're multiplying. Dusty loves high school musicals. I love, Greece is the only musical I really like.

I love that movie. I heard you, didn't you go see Hamilton on Broadway? No. You know what? I take it back, though, I did see Wicked on Broadway. That's right. And it was very good. I heard it was very good.

I heard it was really good. Yeah, it was really good. The Whiz has come to Teapack. You guys don't want to all go together? I definitely would. Love to go see the whiz. Okay. I don't want it to just be me and you.

We're already going to Niagara Falls together, Jay. I will bring champagne for us to go see the whiz. What's the whiz? I'll let you explain it. Why are you letting me explain it? I got this one, Jake. It's basically the black version of the Wizards of the Box. Okay.

Is it like what's different about it? But the original was actors. The original was Michael Jackson. It starts later. Diana Ross, I think. I'm not going to start on time. But, yeah, it's more like a soul musical. You know what I'm saying?

Got a little bit more rhythm. My wife was in a production of The Wiz in high school. I don't know what she played in. I think she just played just like a person singing. But I don't think she was like The Wiz. I would love to see Lucy in the Wiz. Is it different songs or do they just sing them differently? Sing them different?

No, it's a song that's different. And then they sing some other songs different. But it's the same plot. Same plot. Same plot. You know what I'm saying? Like, ease on down. Ease on down to rule.

You know what? What about, what do they do? So they do live, but what do they do about the, when she lands in the yellow brick road? What are the, those people called? The munchkins. The munchkins, what do they do? They can't do that now, right? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I would assume they would as part of the movie. I think it's true. too bad that they don't do more of that because I think people that are like little people want the job yeah so I'm like let's say do more of that give them some jobs that's what Nick Novicki's pushing for yeah Peter Dinklage wants all the work that's why he shames everybody that tries to do it yeah he costs seven people that job in the latest

snow wine yeah yeah that's ridiculous that's crazy yeah yeah What do you mean? Well, he made a big deal saying that it's bad that they would, you know, cast people in those roles. So they made CGI dwarves. They made CGI-I dwarves. That's crazy. Well, that's the reason why I recently found out a couple of months ago, you can hire little people to come out and just do whatever you want them to do. I don't think that's right.

I don't think that. I don't know if that's okay. I mean, they're not going to do everything. What are you talking about? You're talking about, like, home repair and stuff? No, no, no, no. No, there is a company where you can hire, if you need a little person to come out and do whatever for entertainment.

Yeah. They will come out for a fee. They have a set fee because it was a comedian trying to get one to come here. Oh, I did. Yeah. And then just. Jake Flake talking, by the way, for listening. I'm sorry.

But no, like. I'm sorry if I offended anybody by myself. But it is a, it is a. I'm glad they didn't do that. It is the kind of thing where it's like. I don't even want to say the URL. We'll talk about that at the show. I'll ask Nick.

But I just think, yeah, I mean, that might be, you know, a good job, you know. Because if you, like, I don't know, I always think about this. Like, if you're like a little person who you just work at Home Depot, it's like everybody that comes in there is looking at you. Sure. You know, you might as well. Might as well be on a stage. Yeah. If they're just going to look at you, you might as well make a little extra money.

You know. I mean, you can't ease them at a moment. movies like like like little people don't exist in the real world yeah for sure you can't change up a store and you're like yeah we're going to see GI these guys like no man dwarfs don't exist in the real world well dwarfism does yeah dwarfism yeah okay I haven't seen the snow white movie but I assume they don't look like little people they're like little weird kind of CGI they're like weird they're weird people everybody criticized them yeah okay okay okay let's get some real people yeah yeah yeah exactly

Exactly. Peter Dinklage got to play the, I think it was Peter Dinklage, got to play the role of all the Oompa Lumpas in the Johnny Depp, Willie Wonka. That wasn't, that was Peter Dinklet. I don't know who that was. He played every Oopla Lumpa in the whole movie. I don't see crazy. Peter Digglitz.

Whoever it was, though, he got all of those wrong. He should have not got all of them. I agree. Peter Dinklich was in Avengers End Gang. Yeah, he was. I like Peter Dinklage He's he's I think he had a movie

That I like called the station agent Yeah I saw that I really liked that movie I like Peter Dinklage I don't Yeah Okay that's not Peter Dinklage Yeah

That wasn't him Yeah I regret Googling that But he does have every It was this guy It was that guy That they duplicated Yeah

Yeah So where did all the original ones Go from the first movie You know what I'm saying Just bring all of them back Oh that was like 60 years So They're all just old

Oh, yeah He's got a bunch of real Aluma loopie do Bring them back Bring them back Okay Amy Baummiller

Ball Miller You think that's it Ball Miller This episode Brought back memories of my mom Making me run Into the store

For her to buy her cigarettes I was eight I also remember when I started smoking in a hospital in 1987. Started working. Oh, started working.

Started smoking in the hospital is crazy. Well, I bet she did. I also remember when I started working in a hospital in 1987, they let patients smoke in their rooms. How times have changed. Dusty, it's good to have you back. Thank you, Amy. And I bet that was a great time to be in the,

the hospital. You're like, I'm in here, my leg is broken, and I don't want to have to hobble outside to smoke a cigarette. Let me just fire it up in this room. Nurse lights it for you. Man, that's wild. You had a rough surgery. Let me get dead clean. Recovery from lung cancer. Did you guys ever have to go to the store and get cigarettes with somebody in your family? I never did. I don't think so. Well, you did? Yeah. My grandma used to smoke Misty soft pads.

She used to send me with a note to the store right across the street and they always say, I better not find out you smoking these. I was like, I'm six.

And you think I'd be smoking Misty? Right. What are Misty? Like Virginia Slims? Like kind of like an old woman cigarette? Old woman cigarettes, yeah. Yeah, it's like those are the cigarettes that they know the kids aren't smoking.

There's something kind of, like the person at the store knew your grandmother? Yeah, yeah, because the store was literally like, I mean, down the street. It wouldn't even quarter a mile away. Okay. So she could sit on the porch and watch me go to the store and come back. I just like the idea of that of the store knowing all the people. I like that too.

I was before Dollar General took over the world. This was in Myelin? Yes, yes, it was a mile. Yeah, yeah. The barbecue pit was the name of the store. Oh, wow. They sold everything. They sold everything.

Barbecue? Of course. I like that kind of store. There was that store where my dad lives. It was called Larry Edge's Grocery. I think it was just called Edge's Grocery. But Larry Edge was always in there, old man, always working. Him and his wife.

They're always running the store. And you could. We could have done that. My dad didn't really smoke. My dad told me he smoked, but he would always bum cigarettes off people, that's what he said. He didn't have his own pack. The worst kind of smoke. Yeah, yeah.

He would carry his own lighter. But he would bomb cigarettes. You need a lighter? Give me a cigarette. Yeah. Yeah. But he, yeah, so, but that would have been the kind of store you could have done that. Yeah, man. I miss those stores. Like, my dad had a charge account at that store where you just run a tab. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Where me and my stepbrothers would go get candy and go, put it on the tab until my dad, you know, like realized how much we were using it.

And then we got cut off. We just had to win Dixie up the street. Yeah. And I stole from it once as a kid. Cigarette? Not a cigarette. Cigar. Bubbellish gum.

Oh, yeah. I stole it. I never even chewed it. I just kept it in my pocket. Wow. Yeah. It was like the rush of stealing. He was like,

it felt good, dude. And then I fell out of my pocket, and my dad drove me back up, and I had to return it to the store. Walked up to the woman that I stole it from and gave it back to her. Wow. How old were you? Six or seven. I remember you've shared the story before the podcast, and it was like your one time to

kind of break a cry or commit a cry it was the first time I remember going I shouldn't do this and I did it and it felt good wasn't your last time

yeah Alicia got big league chew you know oh yeah oh man I love big league chew did the lady you handed it to what was her reaction

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Yeah, Durinda. Durinda Willoughby. What else would be, Durinda? Derinda? I think Durinda's probably... Durinda. Yeah. Deep.

Not sure the criteria for picking top country songs that reference tobacco, but my immediate thoughts were King of the Road by Roger Miller and Counting Flowers on the Wall by the Statler Brothers.

Yeah, both of those are good. King of the Road, I smoke old Stogies I have found. They're short, but not too big around. And then Counting Flowers on the Wall. wall he says smoking cigarettes and watching captain kangaroo you know that uh my parents played both when i was growing up and those songs made me smile thanks for bringing the memories to mind even though those songs didn't make your list they should have made the list and i'm sorry i can

name a movie each one of these songs is in i can name one uh pulp fiction yep you've seen Pulpiction right here. I have, yeah. It's been a while. So the scene where Bruce Willis goes and retrieves his watch from his apartment, gets in his car, turns it on, that song's on, he's singing it right before he runs into Ving Rhames. Okay. Literally. Yeah. And then King of the Road in Swingers, the Swingers, when they're going back home from Vegas. Yeah. These are great songs. Philo Bidot. Philo. Fylo Beto. That's a Clint Eastwood character in any which way but loose. Okay. I have that movie. Brian, I'm not watching it in a long time. But, yeah, right turn, Claude.

That's right. Yeah. Brian, you and I are the same age. Makes sense. I can't believe you didn't mention Sonny Crockett. The younger folks have no idea how cool and influential Miami Vice was. Well, he was. We talked about Miami Vice. I feel like recently on here. I guess they mean as far as smoking. He smoked a lot, Sonic Rocket. I mean, I guess they did. I don't really think about it. I just think about the way he dressed. And yeah, that was a very popular. It came on, I'm pretty sure it came on Friday nights. So it made it not seem quite so lame if you're home on a Friday night because the show was so cool. At least that's what I told myself. Yeah, yeah. You're like, I didn't want to go out anyway. Miami Vice is on. Yeah. You got to watch. Sonny Crockett. That's right.

My friend Philo Beto. Yeah. Cameron Hadley. There is a place in Savannah, Georgia, that sells Cigarello's modeled after the ones Clint Eastwood smokes and the good, the bad, and the ugly, that are aged in bourbon. They are the best tobacco product I've ever had. They leave the taste of bourbon on your lips, and the smoke tastes like cherry wood. It's the best. I got to say, I probably hate those.

Really? I thought you'd love it. No, I don't, first off, I'm an alcoholic. I don't need the taste of bourbon on my lips. I think that might trigger me. But besides that, I thought you would love it. No, I think that probably looks cool, but I like cigars that just tastes like tobacco. Sometimes people like to get the flavored ones.

I'm not into it. There was a time. I like black and milds or wine. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Never thought dusty smoking black and mild

I used to smoke Wood tip I was the plastic tip guy I liked I used to smoke a lot of black and milds and I would inhale them and I I quit smoking cigarettes and I started smoking black and mild

and then I had to go back to cigarettes because I was The black of miles were tearing you up I was killing myself but I love a black of mild Did you ever take the paper on the inside It's like some paper inside of people people used to take it out and you break it down

and take out that paper yeah you used to you know you you do it like this and rub all the tobacco into the plastic and then go put it back in the area what is a black and mild

kind of loosens it up it sounds like a tour that you two would do together it's a it's a it's a it's a that's funny

that's a good that's a good the black and mild tour and Aaron Weaver Blacky Mild to him. It's crazy. That's a good name. What is a Black & Mild, though?

It's like a baby cigar, I guess. Okay, so it's in between a cigarette and a cigar? I guess so. I think it, yeah, I think so, because I would. You've seen them at the gas station, I'm sure. I would never inhale a full-on cigar, but black-and-miled. I mean, it's, you know, it's a bit more like a, Okay

A bit more like a cigarette than I But it's somewhere in between It's not good for you Yeah No not I'll make that clear to The good doctor We're not recommending any of this

Yeah I don't smoke I just know a lot of people Smoke black and miles Where I grew up at None of them was white So I was surprised that Dusty was smoking the blackie

Well I mean I grew up in Opa like Alabama And there was a lot of You know A lot of us smoking black and black And we were You know Opelika's a black and mild kind of place

And we had a great time You know Black and mild's Newports I mean we were doing You know I can't get into it too much But

Stephen Young I remember cigarette vending machines In restaurants When I was a child in the 80s Seems hard now To believe that was a thing I remember More like Stephen old

Am I right Oh I remember cigarette vending machines in Charleston in the, you know. They're still at bars. Mid two thousand, yeah. Buddy of mine in college bought an old vending machine on Craigslist and filled it with pre-packaged two cigarettes. And he made a bunch of money.

Oh, yeah. You put that at a fraternity house in Tennessee. Oh, those are good. If you can just get, because that's sometimes when I, when I was like smoking but like was like trying to quit. Like I didn't want to have a pack. But I would offer people money for a cigarette. Now, imagine you get, there's a vending machine, you could buy two cigarettes for a dollar. I know.

I mean, yeah, you would clean up if you were the ones selling. They sell them in packs of two? No, my buddy, this was all illegal. My buddy would buy cartons and then repackage them and two. Oh, you'd like seal them somehow. It would just a little piece of tape around them. Oh. And some gas stations would sell singles, I think, sometimes.

Loose. Yeah, yeah. Wow. That's illegal. Yeah. So you're kind of like your dad in the sense that. You're like, I'm not going to own cigarettes. I'm just going to get it from other people.

Well, but I would offer people money for them. Yeah. Because I almost felt like it was more of a, like I was trying to keep myself from smoking. So it was a punishment to myself. If you're willing to do it, it's got to cost you money. Okay. Well, that makes sense. Yeah.

That makes sense. But people love to go, don't worry about it. And this give you the cigarette. And then they complain later. This is always bumming cigarettes off me. Took my last woodtip black. him out the only cigarette that a guy one time i bummed one he goes it's a clove and i go that's fine i don't care and then i took like two puffs and i was like nah i'm not into that i don't know

i'm not into clove cigarettes okay bethany piggott pigot piggott brian did you ever have a moral dilemma helping grow tobacco knowing what it can do to people jeez bethany I worked at a fried catfish restaurant that summer during college and struggled serving a lady who would come every Friday for a seafood platter knowing we were probably contributing to her early death. Well, Brian, when you worked there, that was before all the research came out about this, right? Well, you're not completely, she said that summer. What summer is she talking about?

Maybe the same summer that Garth Brooks sang about. Yeah. To your point, Aaron, that was over 30 years ago, so it was a little bit different then. I mean, obviously, we knew that cigarette smoking's not great for your health, but it wasn't frowned upon like it is now. And, no, I didn't really, I mean, I was a college kid, just working the summer trying to help out. I don't even really think I processed, like, us out in the fields someday going to lead to a cigarette, somebody smoking. There are so many steps in between that you didn't really, you weren't thinking about. Yeah. I'd like to speak to Bethany. I just want to take a little of this burden off of her.

She seems to burden herself with this. She says, I struggled selling this lady fried catfish every Friday night, knowing what we were probably contributing to her early death. It's like, just take it easy. The lady, the lady enjoys the fried catfish. She wants to come in and get it. Let her have it. And don't worry yourself with it. That lady, if she ain't going to buy the fried catfish from you, if you go, hey, if you start nagging. this lady going, you know, this is hurting your health. Shug's going to go somewhere else and get her fried catfish. That is a fact. Don't harass the lady and don't put this burden on yourself, Bethany. It was probably a really unhealthy looking woman. Yeah.

But, you know. She's doing it to herself, though. What are you going to go? She orders and you go, you sure. Right. We can bring it out grilled. You know, I do offer blackened shrimp. We also got broccoli.

You don't have to get the baked potato on fries. Oops, we're out of baked potatoes. I see all these other tables with them. Last one. That was the last one. I like to mention when Brian worked there. Oh, is that 30 years ago? That's back when they used to make the cool commercials for cigarettes.

You know what they used to have the cartoon commercials for cigarette. I used to try to make cigarettes like the thing to be back then, like 30 years ago. Back in the good old days. The camels. Well, 30 years ago, I was in college. I don't really remember the cartoons. Joe Camel, though. They used to be the commercials.

Yeah. Like Joe Camel. It was the cartoon. Joe Camel was a car. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Matt, this episode was the most interaction with the behind-the-scenes crew. When are you going to have them on the pod?

The people want to see the real Nateland crew. They're not even paying attention today. Who's going to film if we put them on the podcast? Well, I got about five complaints last week about my nose whistles, so I don't think they're doing that great a job. You got to get that out, guys. Yeah, they go. I can't do everything right here. They go the nose whistles back.

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Jacob Louis film. Brian, with a terrible take on the Phillies lady, shaking my head. Well, I don't even know if you ever got to your take on it. I think we interrupted you. I defended her in the sense that, yes, I think she was totally in the wrong. But she's just getting crushed online and, you know, just people saying awful things, wanting her to lose her job and all that, to the point where now I said I felt it felt a little Bartmanish, Steve Bartman.

Yeah, yeah, sure. Just the mob coming after her. And I still feel that way. Yeah. I mean, I'm not defeating her actions. Sure. But I think she's... Losing a job over there is crazy.

Yeah, I think she's still in hiding as far as I know. Yeah, it's, yeah, I mean, it's just a baseball. Everyone's trying to find her. Yeah. it's pretty insane okay candace huggins when dusty decided to villainize the dad who gave crazy fillies karen the baseball i was filled with indignation if that had been my family with some unstable woman yelling at us i'm positive my husband would have done the same thing just to get her out of our faces baseballs can come and go he gave it up and they were blessed with way more in return

for being the reasonable party. Yeah, I mean, I just think the dad looked weak in front of his son. That's all I said. His son was like, you need to be a man. Yeah. It's the dad did something. Like, he walks over and gets the ball. And the way he grabs it and kind of holds it up, like I, and then the way he puts it in

his son's glove, he's like, look at me. I got it. I did it. And then the woman comes over and yells at him and he goes, oh, here you go. it's like, don't make all the other. It was a little bit of time of him probably realizing this woman's crazy. I don't want to have some very public confrontation with a crazy woman. So let me just give her the ball.

And this will be a lesson to my kid that sometimes the best way to deal with stuff is just to retreat from it. I agree with you, but I still think he should have held on to it. I do agree with what you're saying. Yeah. But I still think he goes, nah, we got it, okay? It's also, things are in the heat of the moment. It's tough to judge somebody because it's easy to look back and say you should have done this. But in the heat of the moment, who knows how you behave?

And I really don't want either of them to lose their jobs. That's insane. And they shouldn't be trying to track this lady down. Also insane. It's like, just, hey, just let's relax. It depends on what their jobs are. I wonder if Candace would feel the same if they didn't get way more return. Because sometimes that don't happen either.

Sometimes you just go home without the baseball that you might have promised your kids. You're going to try to get them before you got there. Yeah, that's a good tech. Like, say he gave it up and then they left and the Phillies didn't do anything for the kid. And now the kid's like, dad, why did you get my ball away? Right. They reward her for standing up for herself. A powerful lesson in speaking your truth.

That's a good thought. If all those things looking for that one, we don't know. know what that one was going through before she came to that game either. Exactly. Exactly. I don't agree with like let's demonizing this lady like this. You know. If my worst moments were caught on film I wouldn't be allowed in a particular McDonald's at 1032 a. That's great.

Some of my worst moments were at McDonald's too. All right. Well, that's a good segue because this week we're talking about youth sports. and we got a man who I think can have a little insight in this because not only are you a dad of three daughters. Three daughters, yeah. I will not try for four. I will not.

Who I assume participating at least cheerleading. Yeah, we got cheerleading, track, and a band. Okay. And you're a referee. I do. I do basketball, baseball, and football. Wow, the trifecta. Which one's the hardest? The hardest? I would say basketball because basketball is like an instant. You got, when you see something, you got to make it an instant call.

Is that also the one you're the most animated in? Like it feels like a basketball coach, our basketball referee can really get animated with it. Charge. Yeah, you can. Depending on what point in the game. If it's a close game, then yeah, you're a little bit more animated with your calls. Yeah. Baseball I can be animated in the blowout. Are you behind you? As long as it close call.

Out on the plate and in the field, it don't matter. I can make it, I can make a little bit of drama about the call. Yeah. So. Does the coach ever come out and yell at you? Do you get in those kind of situation? I just flagged somebody Saturday morning for cussing on the field. Okay, what do you refer it?

Like, what level? Age range, yeah. Age range. The youngest is like, Peewee, I go away for football. I do like five to six. which I think is an insane age to have kids play tackle football all way up to high school

and for baseball I don't do the little kids anymore because I feel like the younger the more dramatic the parents are so I usually do like 13 on up to I do college in the summer like they had college yeah because they have like summer leagues

where the college kids get together and play so I do some of that not as much as I used to but I would do some of that basketball is just strictly high school yeah but I don't do basketball as much as I do the other two You do high school football. Do high school football.

So that's what you're doing right now, right? Yeah, I do. Well, not as much anymore. Thanks to Aaron Weber here. And I'm happy about that, to be honest with you. So now, but yeah, in the past, I did high school football during the football season just about every Friday night I was out there. But now it's just like junior high and JV because Friday nights I'm going. Friday nights I'm doing shows.

I think like a lot of people, my social media feed these days is full of videos of parents yelling at umpires confrontations with coaches and parents and even some of the kids do you see more and more of that? Do you think that's a growing problem or has it always been kind of wild? No, it's a growing problem. I was just told

Saturday morning that I was fat a parent told me that I'm taking out on the kids can only make like $10 a game and then one yelled out. My wife really doesn't love me so I take it out on children. This was all one game Saturday morning.

And they was 10-year-old kids. Wow. I got told all of that. This baseball? This was, no, this is football. Football. And this is the parents? This was the parents.

And the coach said, the only time that the team was holding was the two times they scored a touchdown. And he said, bleep de bleep de bleep de bleep de bleep de bleep. And I walked them to the sideline. I said, okay, that's fine. And I dropped two flags on them. And then everybody's like, coach, you need to shut up. Wow. It sounds like chaos out there.

Sounds terrible. But it doesn't bother me as much. Like, it really don't bother me, but I do have a belief that parents are killing you sports. Yeah. I saw people on TikTok just saying that they think travel sports for kids is like ruining families. Because everybody, they're putting so much time. So I think the parents are putting so much time into this that they're probably stressed. They're so invested now.

It's a lot of money. It's every weekend. You don't get to spend as much family time. you think because you're doing travel ball. But there's nothing like going on vacation. I'm saying they don't get a chance to go on vacation and stuff like that. But it is stressful because also, I mean, it's a money game as well. So these different leagues keep over stats.

You know, they promise kids sometime a scout is going to be there. Scout might not be there. I've seen travel baseball parents get into it behind me when I'm behind the plate, like literally about to come to fight blows. I called time out and say, hey, hey y'all y'all got to get together because the kids are watching this and then one parent said well he told me to shut up and I said are you serious right now like are y'all serious and and to like can you throw parents out of the what jurisdiction do you have I can get rid of parents you're the you're the king of the you're the king of the place when you're there right you can throw people out I can throw I can throw people out uh and that's no matter what level you who comes to get them if you throw them out if it's a if it's a school organized game you're It's usually an AD there. And you just tell the AD like, hey, dude up there and a striped shirt, got to go.

And I'd be like, well, they'd be like, okay. So, and what happens is we're saying you the king of it. So let's just say, we say he got to go. We can go like 15 minutes and I hear his voice again. And I can call the timeout and say, hey, AD, we're not going to continue to game until this person leaves. Oh, man. And then usually they get them up out of it. So is that why they try to take shots at the pay?

because they would think, I don't know what people get paid, but I would think if the pay wasn't good, they would be a little more appreciative that you're actually out there doing it. Yeah, exactly. But maybe they think somehow you're like, I'm not doing it for the money. I'm doing it for the power.

Why? I tell people all the time, the perfect game is nobody even notices that I was there. That's the perfect game for me. Nobody even notices them. I don't want to be seen. I don't want to call I don't want to throw flags

I don't want to call files now baseball I do want to call out are we going to be there all day long but I just won't people got to go into a thing like this and it's the reason why we have a shortage of officials no matter who wins

and loses somebody's going to be mad at you it could be a perfectly called game somebody's going to be upset with you when that game is over because a lot of people don't take accountability is your fault how do I get called fat and my wife doesn't love

me and your team lost 35 to zero yeah we ended the game in the third quarter but somehow it's my fault and it's just it's so dark it's so dark too to take those kind of shots at you yeah it's like i mean i don't know just uh your wife doesn't love you yeah yeah i don't even I don't even wear my wedding band in most games because I know some shot is going to be taken about me being married. Did you go home and get a little bit bigger a ref shirt after that? It was kind of snug.

I'm not going to lie to me. On the hot days, I'm wearing a breathable ref shirt, which is going to be snug. I'm not going to lie to you. Because that feels like YouTube comments where you're like reading them and like most of them, if they're bad, they don't really bother you. But then they'll be one way you're like, oh,

So personal. Yeah. Yeah. The funny thing is, these guys don't know that you're a comedian, too. And you're like, if you really want to go at it back and forth, it's going to change real quick. I promise I had my eye on a woman that called me fat. And you should have known the jokes that rambled off in my head. It's like, I can't say it to her because I'm like the bad guy.

But if she says anything to me after this game is old with, oh, I'm going to not happy. Oh, this whole time, I'm just roasting her in my head. It's a woman. I got a minute. I don't care. No, no, no, no, no, I'm saying that's even worse to me that a woman is yelling, saying, it's just terrible stuff. And then what usually happens is most of the time, it is the women.

And the man is just sitting there like, geez. The man's embarrassed. Yeah, he's like, he's probably like, I didn't even want to do this anyway. Yeah. I'm just here to support my kid. Well, you think the kids are embarrassed too sometimes? They have to be, right? Sometimes they are.

I hear some kids were like, geez, mom, shut up. Of course, she can't hear it. Yeah. But they say that, and then some of them, they kind of like riled them on too with what's going on. So it just depends on the kid. I remember we had a guy, like, we had like one guy growing up, like in youth baseball. That would be his dad would always be that guy. Yeah.

But it was like it was the one guy. We all knew. It wasn't everybody. It just seems like this is a lot of people. Nowadays, I feel like it's an epidemic. Yeah. It's crazy. Well, I need people to realize this, though.

If you put hands on a referee in the state of Tennessee, you might want to do whatever state it is. It's a felony. If I got my shirt on, if I got my shirt on and you put hands on me, it's a felony state. So you can just wear that shirt all the time. You go to the mall with it.

I'm wearing it on stage this weekend, Aaron. Just the case I'm bald. Nobody like my said. You're in an arrest. That's crazy. I had no idea. I mean, that's how bad is getting. So this is a new law that they've made or something?

I think it's about like two or three years old. Okay. So if a coach comes up and grabs you, there can be serious consequences. Like the video you sent me where the ump and the coach was like fighting. Yeah. Since the coach started that, he can be charged with a felon. Is that why in baseball the coach will kick dirt on the, on the shoes of the referee? Because he's not actually touching him.

You never see him do that when they really argue they'll kind of kick the dirt on there? And they get like this close to the guy's face, you know? Yeah. I mean, I mean, I need people to understand this also. As an official, a lot of people think if we make a bad call, nothing happens. But that's far from the truth. That's far from the truth. You're not in the meetings that we have where they might show a video of you getting called out on a call you missed.

You might miss out. You might miss out on playoff games. If it's early in the season, you might sit out for two or three weeks. Or I've been a part of a state championship crew. where somebody messed up a call a big. It was like the first game of the season. Somebody messed up on a call, and he was pulled from that state championship pool.

Wow. Wow. I like that. I had no idea that y'all would watch, you'd watch film. Yeah, yeah. We watch film. We have a meeting at least once a week watching film. We can go on the website and look at our previous games and talk about it.

Now, this is a whole lot that go into it and people don't know. We just don't show up with a shirt and say, oh, I'm calling ball now. It's a rule book that's written by lawyers. Yeah, how did you, what you have to do to become qualified? What I did back then is you had to, we came such a shortage now, you didn't even got to take a test. But back then, back then I had to go through like this whole training program, take a test, like the whole nine to be qualified.

And then I didn't start off doing big games. I would start off doing like the little kids, like rec ball. Before I did travel ball, you would do rec ball. Because to be honest with you, like rec ball, when it comes to baseball, any rule will be broken by some kid that's never played in the entire life. Yeah, sure. Like a rule would be broken and you will learn from those situations. So you start off at a smaller level and then move your way up.

Do you think there's a shortage because less people are doing it or because there's more stuff now, like more games? I think less people are doing it because of what's going on right now. Yeah. Like a lot of people don't want to be yelled at, talk bad. A lot of people can't handle you being yelled at for an hour and out. have yeah and then i've been to like hotels where i'm staying at to do comedy and then like they'll be travel ball in town right and the parents are at the hotel at night just getting hammered oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah if you look if you look outside the ballpark and the guy

got his tailgate down his truck and it's a cooler and some chairs sitting in the bed his truck yeah getting the hammered yeah i mean they're so they see all seems so stressed. Nate and his dad have shared stories about Nate's mom was one of these parents at Little League games. She would get thrown out all the time. She's so passionate. She'd be yelling.

And she'd have to go out to center field and sit in the car. Now, the difference is I don't think Nate's mom is calling the ump fat and saying your wife doesn't love you. I don't know. She's probably arguing the calls. It's interesting watching a baseball game with Jay because he will watch it from the perspective of the umpire. The way that probably no one else in the stadium is.

When we went to the White Sox game, there was a call at first that the crowd didn't agree with. And Jay's just looking around and going, he didn't have a good angle, guys. Defending the other hand. I mean, it depends on the angle. Like, you're sitting in the bleachers. You're watching the game. You got this huge view.

And you're on the field. Like, you got the best view. But sometimes a little bit to the left, a little bit to the right can change. like what you see. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then sometimes you can make a perfect call because you do have the perfect angle. And then, you know, like an umpire argued with me about balls and strikes and he on third

baseline. Yeah, you don't even. You have no clue where the ball is at. Like you have no clue or where this ball is at. You get into a fight with other officials? Like not a fight. No, no. You know, we might argue a call.

And then my way of getting out of saying, I just want you to know we have the meeting that's not going to look good on film. and I would just leave it. Oh, just like looking out for you, dude. Yeah, I'm looking out for it like, hey, what did you see? Let's talk this out. That's why sometimes in NFL or any level of football, you might see him pick up the flag and wave it

because somebody else might have had a better view than what you had. And they'd be like, hey, I just want to let you know what I sing. So it might not be what you thought from the angle you was at. And then, you know. You ever have somebody else on your crew make a call that you disagree with,

but you have to defend it? It's like a marriage where you're, Yes, it is. Yeah. It is. Yeah. I can be, and I'm, I'm going to talk about all three. But I can be special with football if I'm at the end of the line.

And let's say somebody might have jumped off sides. And what we call it is I don't fish in other people pond. So if it happens on that other side of the field, I don't fish in that pond. But we may be seen it. Yeah, yeah. And I got to kind of like defend it. You know what I mean, a little bit. And I might be like, hey, coach, you know, from where we're standing, it might have looked like this.

But the guy that is right there. he probably seen X, Y, and Z. Yeah, yeah, sure. And then I hit him with, it's not going to look good on film. I got you back tonight, but tomorrow, I have a joke where I say, if I was a ref,

I could so easily be swayed by the crowd to do a makeup call. But the thing is, if they think that they're on you the rest of the day. They own you the rest of the day. The crowd's building. All right, let's just start the game over.

Start it over. Let's just start up. My joke is the very next play. I throw a flag. And they're holding defense this time, guys. But that's a good point that they're on you. If they know that they can sway you, they're on you the rest of the game. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, because I think about that when I'm watching a game and they're like really booing a ref. And, you know, when I'm watching pro games, I hate the refs. And so I always think professional sports, I think they're rigging the game. Some maybe. Yeah, and basketball is the one that they, it's proven that it's happened in the NBA. You ever fix a game? No, no, no, no.

I don't care enough to fix a game. I'll be honest with you. And none of those parents have enough money if you're going to fix a game. I think these high level NFL games, I do think that's happening. But I, but sometimes it's like maybe you do just make a bad call and the audience is booing you. And you're like, if I reverse this, they're going to do this every call I make for the rest of the game. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, yeah, it happens. I, uh, when I was think I was in college, I had a guy who was a, who was a T-W-S-WA basketball ref, and he, they were doing a training thing when Saturday, he asked me to come film it or something. And I remember, like, I guess the official over those officials were given instructions. And one thing that stood out to me, because they had, uh, I guess real, obviously had real players out there playing for you to, you got to practice ref with. real players.

That is, and let me tell you something, refs do not get paid for that. When they do like the scrimmish games and stuff like that, we're out there for the love of getting ready for the season. And we do get paid, it's like $10.

Yeah. Well, the one thing, I remember them saying that kind of stood out to me, a guy was dribbling down the court, player reached in and tried steal it, and didn't get it, but the ref called a foul,

and the official over him said, if it didn't affect the game whatsoever, I mean, if it's obvious, a foul, you got to call it. But if it's just a reach-in and it didn't affect don't call it.

Or we'll be here all night. Yeah, that might be, I wonder what level basketball. When I say level, you still get some bad high school basketball. So it might have been

just managing the game in that situation. Because when you got two bad teams playing, you'll be there all. You can call foul. Like when I'm doing the little kids on Saturday sometimes.

not even dribbling, right? It's like, we'll be here all day. Example that is, this was like probably about four or five years ago, I think it was like nine U basketball. And they was like, you're not calling double, you're not calling this. And I'd turn around and told the coaches, both coaches, I said, let me tell you something. If I call this like a high school game or how I'm supposed to call it, y'all will not score. Yeah.

He's like, well, how do you going to learn if you don't? I said, cool, I'm going to give you a quarter of it. and by the end of that quarter they said let the kids play let them play yeah yeah nobody scored that quarter yeah soon as the kid took the ball as a walk what you mean to walk he took a step before he even dribbled what do you mean oh that's a foul that's a charge that's a foul like but this is what y'all wanted right this is what y'all didn't score for a whole let the kids play all right yeah see what I mean yeah look like the game I get called fat and all yeah it was little kids and I basically told the coach.

Little kids. I can call holding every play. I call holding every play. You will not score. We'll be here all day. Yeah. How do you feel about baseball specifically, but I think at all sports,

there's going to be more and more things called automatically, right? No, there's automatic balls and strikes already working in to baseball. I think there's reviews, like every play in football now. I feel like refs are. kind of being pushed out. I don't know if you feel that way. Like, I feel like in 50 years,

maybe there won't even be umps and refs in sports. That's possible. Yeah. It's possible. Are you really the chain gang this year, didn't they in the NFL? Yeah, they got an automatic, like,

little chain game situation. They want to do a measurement. They go to the computer, and the computer pretty much tell them if it's short or not. I remember. That sounds easier to rig. I remember it.

I remember in a high school game, there's this kid probably 25 who was doing the, chain gang, one of our games, and he looked back and he was talking to us, and he goes, man, I hope we don't have a measurement. And we were like, what? He goes, man, I'm so high.

I don't know if I can walk straight out there. So maybe it would be good to do that automatically. I mean, you can replace the chain person, too. We have those issues too where you replace, I mean, I've done high school games, when I'm called a school where it's been dads out there doing a jail and been drunk. And it's been like,

And we get somebody else. In a Little League baseball game, or what level do you do, baseball? I do, you might as well say I do from kids, the high school. If you throw a parent out, what's the requirement? They got to go to their car? They got to leave the park. They got to get in the car and leave? Well, they at least go to the parking lot.

At least go to the park line. I won't push it that far. You need to go sit there. You follow them out to the bargain line. You see if they're gone. You make sure they crank that truck. They at least got to go to their car. I don't want to see.

And I even let you get away. was standing behind the fence until I hear your voice and it'd be like, all right, you gotta go to. If I'm still hearing your voice, I'm not that type of guy just like that. If I tell you to leave, just get away from everybody and I'm fine. But if you yelling, you know, and I can steer your voice,

it's like, all right, just leave. What about a sports movie? Are you able to watch a sports movie now and not be like, oh, that's a penalty? Like teen wolf, for instance. Can you enjoy a movie like that? It's a were a wolf. Yeah, but can you enjoy it?

Can you enjoy it? You're like, ah, he's traveling the whole. That's the one thing that he's like, this is ridiculous. I'm saying, seeing Wolf, it was a lot of travel. I do, I do, I still enjoy sports movies. I mean, I understand this for entertainment. Even before I was fishing, I always loved a good sports movie. But we all know, the end of the sports movies is, oh, this Disney one?

Yes, she won't. Have you ever seen this? She walked. The movie double-teamed. I've seen this breakdown on the internet. This is maybe the worst sports sequence in film his. history where it's about two twin girls that start playing basketball yeah so she's counting down from five seconds she's got the ball i just want you all to know the five seconds

is up at this point yeah it's already been five seconds yeah so five seconds left she starts making a decision okay let me just start pumping my feet this is the worst ever so right it's been 30 seconds so far i know it's slow mo but the clock started the clock wasn't slow mo i'm just moving alone I'm calling him Walt. I'm calling him Walt. Right, I'm talking a walk. She ain't even went nowhere. I'm like, that's a walk.

Everyone's going, shoot. There's five seconds left. And she was way back. And now she's at the 3.5. There was no, she was not being defended at all. She had a wide open shot. What is he doing? Travels.

Yeah. Terrible behind the back pass that almost misses her sister. The worst defense of all time. And then the shot made. But oh, yeah, now it's now it's down to zero. I mean, that was probably a minute of game time. And now as, hold on, when that shot went in, it said 1.5 seconds on the clock, just FY. I mean, the editor's like ruin this.

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So you, the amount of games that you've reft and upped and how often do you see something that you've never seen before? Like, do you ever just like, man, I've never seen that? Or have you pretty much, everything's happened at this point. I pretty much don't seen it all. Yeah. I feel like Major League Baseball, there's, every year there's at least a few things. You're like, I've never seen that.

I mean, that was, this was many years ago. Remember when the guy blew the ball foul? Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah. There's always something crazy. Something can happen for sure. Do you ever not think you can't remember the hand signal for a call? Yeah, sometimes I got a little

I got a little card inside my Oh, you got a cheat sheet? Yeah, I got a little cheat sheet right there I got a little thing with a diagram of the guy Yeah, yeah, I do I do So if I forget I can act like I'm writing something down Oh yeah

Flip it back, I'm like oh yeah This is a rough in the pound All right Well if you're doing three sports Yeah I mean that could be confusing Yeah Yeah it can't be confusing

We're doing three. And it's a lot of different rules, too. You ever do two different sports in one day? Yeah, yeah. I've done football in the morning, baseball at night. I've done that. You're like Dion Sanders. Yeah, I've done it.

I've done it. I've done reverse to baseball in the morning, high school game at night. You know, I've done that before. Yeah. I mean, but what people don't understand, a lot of these, like, when you officiate a lot of different leagues, they got different rules, too. So you can get a rule mixed. up. Everybody has their own little home

rules that they have. So you can get rules mixed. It's a lot to remember and take in, man. It's a whole lot. We were talking before about some refs or umps will brag about like the players that they've ump the games for. I get some of my nerves. Oh, man. Wait, say that again.

I come across all the time, but I know when Mookie was here. Like I ump her like three of his games. Oh, yeah. They're like, yeah, yeah. I'm sure that's why he's in the league now. You know, Sonny Gray? Yeah, I did his baseball and it's football games. Hey, if you want to tell me, I'd be like, dude, I can care. I don't know any of these kids.

If any of the kids that I'm, no disrespect to them all their parents, but any kid that I'm officiating now that makes it to the league, I have no clue. You're not following their careers after the game? I am not following. I get careless. I get careless. How long have some of these people been doing this? Um-pay.

Oh, 30 years, 40 years. Wow. What made you interested? Did you play sports in high school? Yeah, yeah, I played sports. I had played all three sports in high school. Do you ask you asked a guy that's been doing it 30 years after you get some kind of insult like you got? Do you ever go, hey, do they ever yell that your wife doesn't love you?

They'd be like, dude, I've heard worse than that. Do you guys talk about the insults that you get from people? Yeah, we laugh at it. We laugh at most time. The good ones, man, we really don't care. Man, that stuff just falls off. off our bag, we really can care of less. It's like getting a heckle at a show probably.

Yeah, it's like, they're fun to talk about it. But do you think there are guys that take it more personal than other? Most definitely. Yeah. Most definitely. There are comics that I know that like, yeah, we all laugh about it, but, you know, later. Yeah. I mean, I'd be one of them.

You're sitting alone in your hotel room. You remember it. I would hate to be a referee because I want everyone to like me. Yeah, you definitely, you definitely, you definitely, something you could know. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be a referee. I wouldn't want to be a coach. Same reason. The parents are just.

I said I wouldn't coach because of the parents. At least a fish ate and you can just call me fat. My wife don't love me and I can just go home. Yeah. But if I'm a coach, I got to deal with this parent all season long. You know what I mean? Yeah. They probably don't even remember who I...

The lady who talked bad to me on Saturday probably won't eat... If I came out there next Saturday, she probably won't even remember who I was. Well, she right now, she's yelling at a cashier somewhere. Right. You know what I mean? Probably so. It's just how they live life for sure. Yeah, yeah.

But how I got into it was really not... I want to be a coach and I thought about that I just wanted to officiate but I got laid off from a job that's what happened I was broke for so long

I said I got to do something so I was like I get this gig going as a fishade until I can get back on my feet but then I found that it was like the best part-time job ever

I can make my own schedule I can be like man I need some money hit somebody up and be like hey any games this week and they be like yeah I'll load you up

what you need Oh, that's great. Yeah. My mom used to be a softball umpire for a little while. Softball is fun. Yeah. Do you ever have to go to those games? Yeah, I went to the game because she played softball.

Okay. And then was a softball umpire later. And I was at the park all the time. Yeah. One of those little, you know, just park kids running around just playing wall ball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Great hamburgers. Yeah. Yeah. That long gum. You remember the gum that was in like a long stick of gum? I don't remember the long stick of gum I'm talking about bubble tape or is this something else? No, no, it was like just a stick

Yeah, like almost like Slim jams Yeah, it was like it in plastic, but it's gum It wasn't the best gum No, no, none of it wouldn't It wouldn't take long No, but it was at all It wasn't a slim jam.

I tucked in slim gem of gum That is Like the flavor of that gum Only lasts about three or four choose It was out of here. Do they still do the thing like If there's a foul ball They'll say bring it in and get

Coke for a quarter or whatever. No, they should, though. I was telling somebody last baseball season, they should bring that back. So if it's a foul ball, you just keep it? Well, a lot of people, we ask them to turn it in, but that don't happen. East Montgomery, where I played, somebody would come out in a loudspeaker. Please turn that ball to the concession

thing for free Coke. Yeah. When I was playing little league, we just get free slushies. If you turn in a foul ball, I'll tell my kids fighting over a baseball that's free slush, right? Yeah, but now they don't do that anymore. Yeah, they should. They should bring it back, but, you know.

Do you ever do a really over-the-top animated strike three call just to, if one of the, if that team's annoying to you or something, just, you know, something like that? You never do that? No, it pretty much stayed the same. You never do a Savannah bananas, like back for it or anything like. What if it's just exciting? Like it's like the last one of the game, and it's been a hot game. It's a great game.

You never hit a more of those? It's still the same. It's still the same. You're too measured. It's still the same strike three. I think that's why you're probably a good umpire. Well, yeah, I think about like if I, if I'm extra, some kid struck out. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Oh, sure. There's a whole other team over there that is upset and probably don't agree with that car. Dusty trying to try to get me to fight the people after his own. Yeah. Yeah, you really want to hammer at home. What would be great is if he swung on strike three and missed and you still do it. Now, that'll be crazy.

I just do a moonwalk, Mike Jackson moonwalk, cup up on toes. I think Leslie Nielsen, the naked gun. I think the fun move would be do it on the first strike out of the game. Like, start at high. Yeah. You have to keep it in the whole game.

But I'm saying, then slowly tone it down as the game goes on. You get less and less. The opposite of Crockpot. Yeah, yeah. You ever had a pitcher, throw, like, be throwing a perfect game and you get nervous behind the plate

because you're like, I wish somebody would get a hit just so, take the pressure off me? No, no, no. I probably don't even know he's throwing a perfect game. I don't even keep up with it. I don't even keep up with it. You know what I mean?

You never look up and go, wow, they haven't had a hit yet. You never do anything? And I will say that. I'm like, dang, they ain't got a hit yet.

Like, damn. You all stick. He's throwing nothing. And then you go, I got to figure out how to help them get a hint. Wait, hit him with them.

I say this. I will say this. Now, if a team is getting blown out, I will give the battle like a little bit of, you know, you know, hey, buddy, you know, just scoot up a little bit in the back.

Yeah, for young kids. Scoop back a little bit. You know what I mean? High school, nah, we up out. I'm trying to get up out of here after them five minutes or wait. I mean, after them five minutes, if it's a 10 run route. But the little kids, and it's like, because sometimes you get into the travel ball and you got a major team that's probably not supposed to be playing this particular team.

It's like 18 to zero in the first. Right. Yeah. And so I throw little tips to the kid. I'm like, man, scoot up back up in the basketball. You're like, you know, just. He's tipping his fastball. Yeah.

He got a good curve. I might whisper like, yeah, got a good curve. You ever umpired slow-pitched softball? Yes, I did for a couple of months, adult slow-pitched softball. Oh, I don't. Well, I remember little kids' plate, and the catcher can't even, like, the umpire behind the plate is basically retrieving the ball. What they got now is coach pitch. So they do coach pitch.

I used to do that. That's usually pretty cool. They get mad at the coach because the coach can't pitch more than that. Oh, yeah. Slow pitch soft. I mean, all the girls, they would have to face. I can't imagine the audience treating the coach. Oh, come on, coach.

Yeah. And it's always that one dad, give him a good ball. You know he's like a chest high. Man, it's so funny. You ever have a running clock in football or basketball? Yeah, yeah. Who decides that? Tito L.A. do.

Like, there's a certain score. Yeah, yeah. I love how you guys have both said that back and forth with each other. And, you just say, like, everybody now. TWS, a bit of a bit of a. My bad. So let me say. Like auctioneers.

Okay. The National Federation of high school makes that decision. The NFS, H.S. Yeah, NFHs. My bad. My bad. I mean, he was on me by TOS. A.

So they come up with a rule to say, hey, with football is, like, 35. If you go up 35 points, second half is run-in-clock. Basketball, I think it's like 40 points, second-half, run-in-clock. Baseball, five-in-ness, 10-run rule. Or it could happen before then if the coaches come to agreement and be like, hey, we're going to start this in the second quarter. Hey, blue, we stink. Yeah, some coaches know.

Some coaches know that, hey, this is a state championship caliber team. We're nowhere close. So in high school baseball, I had coaches ended in like the fourth. I'm like, ah, we're done. We had a pitching. Football, I had a coach, like, we're going to start running a clock in the second court. He told us before the game started, like, we're going to be on a run of clock. Football sounds, seems like the worst sport to get blown out in.

Because especially if you're like a lineman, you're still having to hit every play. I'll tell you from experience. Yeah. And you know you're losing. There's no chance. but yet every play, you still got a hit. But I'll tell you, the couple times, or I've been on the other end of that,

it's so much fun to just be destroying a team. Yeah. You broke their spirit and their will, and now you're just hitting them. We were beating a team so bad in high school once that, you know, you just start putting in all the freshmen and stuff to letting them play, and there's this little fat kid,

this little fat freshman kid that got in the game, and the other team started making fun of them. down there, man. You look like my little brother, man. And he goes, the only reason I'm out here is because y'all stink. It's so much. Shout out, Raymond. It was hilarious. It's funny.

That's funny. I'll share a little research I did. This is probably the episode where the most, we didn't even need any of this because we got someone here who actually, we're not used to people who actually know what they're talking about on this podcast. It's usually just us making up. up stuff. All right. That's what I found. The average... Because they don't believe

anything that I say. Well, does he thinks he's an expert in every topic. Well, you believe youth sports exists. So it's been... I do want to know what is an exciting game to you. Because over time, he was like, ah, they're just a stinting

to... Too many commercials. You know, if it's, you know, if you're really scoring a lot or like, you know, I think scoring a lot is an exciting game. Because a good defensive game can be exciting if you know that one of the teams is really good at offense, but yet the other team has just kept them from scoring. But I don't think that just because you go to overtime makes it an exciting game.

But I do, you know, if it's high scoring, like, you know, like, you know, I always talk about this Auburn, Florida State National Championship. I wanted Auburn to win, Florida State won. but it was like the last you know it felt like the last few minutes of the game it was like Auburn went ahead Florida State went ahead Auburn went ahead

and it's like that's exciting even though it didn't turn out the way I wanted it to still exciting still bothers me you know I still think about it James Winston yeah yeah yeah you didn't like him did you I know I mean but James Swindis he had a lot going on

he's growing on me a little more since then you know but at the time yeah he had a lot going on on. And I wanted Auburn to win. But yeah, you know, James Winston, he's, he makes funny comments. I don't, I think he's a funny person, but I also don't always know of what he's saying he knows is funny. But like he has that clip where he goes. He goes, it's like coach always says, wait, what did coach say? You got to want to eat a W. Yeah. Come on, Jameson. Yeah, eating a W is crazy.

That was crazy. But so, yeah, I get your point now. I get what you're saying now. Because it can be two teams that's garbage. Yeah. And go to overtime. And they're going to overtime because they garbage. Yeah.

But the Super Bowl in overtime, I mean, that's... That's amazing. How often does that happen? Not often. It tends to be the least exciting game to me. I think that was the second one. I think so. Because, like, playoffs getting there often, very exciting.

But I don't know. It feels like the Super Bowl. The halftime shows too long. And I don't know. It just... It's too much theatrics. I agree there's a lot of other stuff around. If you care about the game, it can be annoying.

Yeah. But you can just not watch. And then everybody wants to do a party. And I'm like, well, I want to, I'd like to watch the game. Yeah, yeah. And if you're doing a party, you're hanging, everybody's talking. I'm like, let's watch this. Yeah, yeah.

I get you. Let's get in there, guys. All right, I'll skip ahead here. Cost of you sports, gone crazy high for parents as far as equipment and fees and stuff like that. over the last few years. This lady that I watched on TikTok said she thinks it's ruining families. It's possible. Yeah, because they're having to travel so much.

Everybody's so busy. Everything costs so much. And then you have to do these things to raise money for your team. Yeah. Yeah. Dustin Nickerson argued that there should be some type of rule where you've got at least figure out your kids going to make the team before you have to buy like the stuff. Some of the travel baseball teams got trials.

okay like they have a try before you buy a glove or anything yeah I think he's like a sporting good store even at the bare minimum he'll spend a few hundred dollars and then the kid won't make the cut you know if you don't have a glove I would say don't try out for the team

you don't have a glove all right let's start there but but I mean if y'all played a mint back in the day man you can buy a glove like $70 $60 $70 now gloves like $300.

It's so expensive. I went to buy gloves for me and my kids because I want to try to teach them to catch. And I was like, geez, these are so expensive. We have been using the yard ball to drive. But I want them to get into the line. I want them to do a real ball. But I was like, man, this is so expensive.

For a good one, it's like $300. If you go to and if you had anybody listening, that's a travel parent, I mean, you get cleats. You got turf. cleats. You got turf shoes because some some fields don't want you wear cleats because they got to get a turf field or whatever. So you got to get the cleats, turf shoes,

backpack. Some of these kids got two bats. You got infield mitt, outfield mitts. That's crazy. They got like three different uniforms sometimes. So it's you have bag gloves and then some of these kids. Don't know about it. But I think of me

weird about it. But I think you're kind of weak if you have like, yeah, they get the first base. Like, yeah, let me take all this gear off. Sliding. put on my slide mitt. I got to put on this and that. When I was, dude, run the base.

When I was growing up, if you used a batting glove, people would call you a word that I'm not happy. Just for wearing a batting glove. Yeah. And now it's they show up. They're decked out and all this stuff.

Yeah, they got shin guard, elbow guard. They got batter gloves, slide mitts. They got all type of stuff. I'm like, I remember it being like, there would be a new bat every year that every kid would want.

And I remember one year, this kid showed up he had a new Demarini bat. And it was like it was beautiful look and I remember asked

by dad I was like you know Trey just got a new D-Marini can we get one? He goes you better become

good friends with Trey and ask him to use his bat I'm not spending at the time it was like

150 bucks for a bat which is ridiculous that's a lot more isn't it I'm sure 600 crazy

it's insane yeah bats I remember that whole kind of we had a batten bag and but it was like for uniform it was a t-shirt and uh and you had you know those white pants whatever everybody had the white pants yeah yeah and yeah i mean in cleats and it's like there was no i had a batten glove but there was no uh no other gear i had cleats one bagglove couldn't afford two yeah one yeah one yeah i had one too that's what i had

They come in pairs, Jay. Back then, you could just buy one. You could just buy one. Yeah, I think they'd come single, don't think? Yeah, you could just buy one. I don't know when they come in pairs now. But back then, you could buy just one. It's on the wrong hand, too.

You're like, I just want to have one. Yeah. Do you think 30 years from now football, because of CTE and all that, it'll just be more like flag football? No. I think they'll add more rules like they did with the kickoff and stuff like that. But it's too entertaining. I mean, America loves blood, guts, and glory.

You know what I mean? So I don't think it's the ever going to go. I think the technology of the helmet just has to keep improving. Yeah. But it's like at the end of the day, the brain sits in water. There's only so much you can do. Yeah, yeah. I think that it'd be like, isn't the safest thing to do to take the helmets off?

That's what I've always heard. Yeah. Some people would say, yeah, because Rugby doesn't have the amount. And they don't, they don't wear helmets anything like that. It's all about. the tackling. Because then you would tackle properly. If you tackle properly, you won't have an issue.

You know what I mean? Get your head across in his chest and just drive them back. I mean, all these big hits is what causes that. And are they crazy about that with the refs? Like, you got to keep an eye on the targeting stuff. Yeah, yeah. We definitely, yeah. If it's close, we throw on a flag down.

And you're still here, dad's black. That was just a good hit, son. Keep hitting them like that. I'm like, your son, been laying on ground for five minutes. Paraly. What are we doing? Let them play. Let them play.

It's on a stretcher. Let them play. Oh, man. Well, flag football is going to be in the next Olympics, so it's a good sport. And I think NFL players are getting to play for the United States. Do you think, man, I wonder, like, are our best NFL players going to necessarily be the best flag football players, or is it a whole different? Like, if we, like, there's Whippleball leagues. I don't know if Aaron Judge is going to.

I would. do well in Wiffleball. I bet he would crush. I just think it's a totally different thing almost. Yeah, I don't know. I have to see. I would say this, as I used to feature flag football, too. There's different rules.

It's like a different way of playing flag that you will play the normal, just 11 men line them up. Like, it's different rules. The plays are a lot more complicated. Well, I'm going to say they're more complicated, but they're more, how can I say it, entertaining? You know what I mean? So they got different ways.

ways they draw the plays up, the way you play defense. I mean, could they? Yes. Would they want to? You can possibly see a team that's been playing flag football for 10 years straight, get an NFL team out there, and beat the brakes off of them. Really?

Oh, yeah. Just because it's a different thing. It's just a different way of playing the game. Yeah, yeah. So interesting. All right, we got a little time left. We talked about sports movies earlier, but I was looking up some of the best sports movies of all time.

Youth sports. So let's leave out Major League or even Rudy. Let's say high school or day or younger, yeah. Best baseball movie. Sandlot, right? Yeah, I would have to go. For youth? That's what I pick, Sandlot.

Yeah. I don't, are a rookie of the year? Well, I still kind of pro, just a kid. Oh, young. I was still thinking I was like, didn't we just talk about how awesome Moneyball was last night? Yeah, Sandlot. I would have to say Sandlot. The Sandlot is the one where it gets me romantic about baseball in a way that no other movie really.

does. For kids, I don't know. I can't even. Oh, I guess there's, um, uh, what's a, Walter Mathau was the Bad News Browns. Bad News Bears. Bad News Bears. That was great. Yeah. That is great. Browns. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Bad News Bears was good with the Walter Mathau, the old one. And then, uh, it was, um, Johnny Knoxville was it. Uh, no, it was, uh, who. The old one was better than the newest one. I was saying. Billy Ray Thorpe, uh, Billy Bob Thor. Yeah. It was good. But the old. Yeah. That's a good. Yeah. That's a good. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good. Yeah. Yeah. I like that one a lot. I remember seeing the old one a lot when I was a kid.

I would have to go with the bad news bears because I watched it more than I watched Sandlott. Yeah. Okay. The old version. Different generations. Yeah. I'll go first because I already looked around up. Cusers.

I thought you said Cusers. Yeah. I thought it was high school. Yeah. I think Teen Wolf, but maybe it's not specifically about basketball. What's the one with a kid changing into a world? Samuel Jackson was the coach. Coach Carter. Coach Carter. Give me Coach Carter. That movie stinks. Give me Coach Carter. I never saw Coach Carter.

Because you've never been to the streets and he never was in the streets in the hood like me. We got Hoosiers and Coach Carter. Black and Miles. I understood those kids that was in that movie. We got a, what about Half Court Miracle, the Disney Channel original movie? We're about a all-Jewish basketball team. from the Bronx or something you've you ever seen that

oh it was terrible I just learned about Twin Peaks or whatever that was y'all were showing double team double team twin peep what did you pick oh Hoosiers

did you have other basketball movies I thought of Coach Carter and again I googled it so I got to look I could there weren't any more that I remember

that we're high school well there was like Air Bud that's Aaron's It's a lot of kid basketball moves that are trash. Airbud, they took that dog to the game on a leash. That was a funny joke. That is a funny joke. Karate.

Karate, obviously karate. I mean, I could argue that Cobra Kai, the TV show. That's just karate game. I know, but it's, gosh, I love that show. Oh, I forgot about he got gang. Give me he got gang. I'm changing. He got game as Denzel.

Yeah, Denzel. Yeah. He was in high school. Because I was thinking it was Ray Allen. He was in high school. Right? Yeah, Ray Allen. He was in high school during his middle.

I forget. He ended up going to college at the end. So does this still count? Yeah, that counts. Did you see Hoop Dreams, the documentary? No. Hoop Dreams, I believe I have. Have you?

With Sebastian Telfair about him? I don't think so. Okay. It might have. There was a doctor. I don't remember the guy's name. They provoked two up-and-coming star basketball players, I think, in Chicago. And it was really, I mean, this is an old documentary.

It was really good. Okay. Yeah, I haven't seen that. Oh, this a, uh, okay, no, I hadn't seen that. What about Johnny Tsunami, dude? You were watching that? What is that? If you consider surfing and skiing a sport and snowboarding, that's a good one.

All right, what about this? I'll tell you what, though. If it's any of the black people that know me see this, they're going to be like, how did you not say love and basketball? Don't worry. No black people watch this podcast. We don't have the date on that. Like me being a catch can, huh?

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. All right, cross-country, I got one because there's probably been one. McFarland, USA. That's a great movie. I don't even know what you mean. Kevin Costner is a... The sport cross-country.

Like running? Long distance running, yeah. Okay. There's movies about that. I had no clue. It was movies about it. That's a great movie. All right.

Hockey. Miracle. Could it be the mighty dogs? Mighty dogs. I go mighty ducks for sure. It has to be. Soccer. There's a movie called the Green Machine.

You see that? That's with the kid from... With the kid from Sandlot. Sandlot, yeah. And it's about a kid's soccer team. I would say ladybugs with Rodney Dangerfield. Yep. And there was a kicking and screaming.

Kicking and screaming, that was a good one. Bending it like Beckham. Have you seen that? Oh, yeah. And then football. Football is probably the hardest one. Is it? I mean, there's just been so many Friday night lights.

I pick, remember the Titans. Oh, those are, yeah, because I was thinking, like, what's the Rick Moranis, Ed O'Neill movie? Little Giants. Little Giants. That's a good one, but that's a little kid. I mean, it's hard to compete with Remember the Titans and Friday Night Lights.

I mean, those are great. Although Aaron's got a joke about Remember the Titans. Yeah. Give me Remember the Titans. Yeah, I mean, that one's so good. When's the last time you watched it? It is a great movie, but when's the last time you're going to watch? It's been a while.

I don't care. There are some, like, as an adult now, I watch it. I go, God, this is such an over-the-top cheesy moment. Yeah. And I guess that's just it's a Disney movie for kids. I didn't feel that way when I watched it as a kid. Now I'm like, ugh. all that left side, strong side stuff.

That does nothing for me anymore. I'm like, this is not even going to fly in the locker room, be honest with your left side. I remember thinking attitude, reflect leadership, Captain. I remember thinking that was like the hardest line

in the history of cinema. And I watched it. I was like, ugh, that didn't even like make sense with what do you think? Yeah, see, I'm not watched it in a long time,

but I did watch Little Giants not long ago. And I was like, this is pretty good for a kids movie. It's pretty good. I've said it before. my old boss wrote that movie. Oh. Really?

When I interned at an advertising company, that was based on a McDonald's ad. They did a McDonald's ad about youth football, and then that transformed into the movie Little Jones. Oh, wow. And Rob Shallow Cross, I think his name was. He wrote that movie. Pretty cool.

Were there other kids? Friday Night Lights was good, too. Friday Night Lights was good. Friday Night Live. Were there other kids? Well, there's a ton. When I just Googled Youth Sports movies, but I just came up with my favorites.

Oh, okay. But yeah, there's been so many. Send us yours. I guess, uh, comment. I want to hear about it. I want to hear about it. The blind sides kind of. I mean, he's getting ready for college, but he's in high school.

That's a good movie, too. That's a true representation of Memphis. I'm sorry. I'm playing. Some of that stuff is made up for you. Like some of it should be, as it is an odd movie. Yeah, I guess you have to for a movie. Yeah, yeah.

Some of that stuff is. made up yeah uh i think friday night lights might be a true representation of yeah that was high school football seriously what your kids may be doing outside sure yeah yeah i'm sure we're forgetting some oh yeah i'm sure uh all right we're gonna talk about what we're doing this weekend yeah yeah we're gonna be um i will be in all right so nate i know for a fact uh sunday night i don't know where he is all weekend but sunday night he is in little rock arkansas at Simmons Bank Arena. The reason I know is because I'm competing against him because I'm going to be at First United Methodist Church in Paragual, Arkansas. So you've got a choice, Arkansas.

You can go to Little Rock see Nate or come to First United Methodist Church and see me. You want to go see Nate and won't even get to meet him or you go to Brian's show and he'll stick around too long. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jeez, when does he leave? It'll be a lot. How far is there from Little Rock? I think it's three hours or so. But people are making those drives for Nate show. It's great. I'm making for me. I mean, I saw people at the airport this weekend.

They were like, we flew in for the show. People were flying to these shows. It's pretty crazy. October 10th and 11th. I'm in the Cleveland area, Brunswick and Willoughby. October 30th, Rochester, New York. Never been to Rochester. Comedy off to Carlson.

Something like that. Comedy at the Carlson. Comedy at the Carlson. Off the Broadway. Mine might be off. I've been there. I like that. Kodak.

I like that. What's Kodak? That's for Kodak, the company is Rochester. Kodak. Kodak, you're right. Not the dip, the camera company. Okay. Well, I've never been to Rochester, but October 30th, come see me. Two iconic brands.

It's where they, Kodak came from. And so they got all these, like, mansions in the city of where all the Kodak people worked out. But now Kodak's, like, completely out of business. I thought Kodak was in East Tennessee. Well, there is a Kodak, Tennessee. You're thinking of Knoxville. No, you go, it goes, it goes Gatlinburg, Pigeon Forge, Severeville, Kodak. But we're saying Kodak, the film.

I'm saying there is a camera company that was based out of East Tennessee, but it must not been Kodak. Go pro, maybe. All right. Okay. This weekend, if you want to see me and Jay, Jay and I are hitting the road, the Black and Mild Tour rides again. Phoenix, Arizona, this weekend at the.

the Desert Ridge Improv, five shows there. And then we're heading the very next day, September 21st to Denver, Colorado at Comedy Works. Already sold a show out. We got tickets available to the show we added is at seven. So we've got a show at five and then at seven. So they're not late shows. Come on out to him.

Phoenix, Arizona, Denver, Colorado, Aaron Weber, Jay Flake. That's awesome. Yes, sir. Okay, this weekend. You know what? I'm going to go ahead and just plug this because I'm doing his show. It'll be tonight when this podcast comes out. I'm doing Hugh Houser's show at the lab.

It's in the main room. Is it? Yeah, I'm on it too. Okay, great. All right. So we're both doing that show. It's sold out. Oh, it's already sold out.

Yeah, it's all that. Well, good for you. He's the man. On Friday, I'll be at Redding, PA. I was told that you, that's how you pronounce it, is Redding. And if you want to be cool, you say PA and not Pennsylvania. Okay. And then Wilkesberry, PA.

I'll be there. Oh, with the Penguins. Yeah. So, and then, yeah, I'll just plug my own show, September 3rd. 30th, I'll be at Zanis. Nice. Nice, nice, nice, nice. All right, you want to wrap it up, Dusty?

Yeah, watch Jay set this Friday on the nightly and YouTube. September 19th. Which one of us hosted his show that he did? I think it was me. Dusty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was a great night. The audience was great.

It was a good warm up. And then the show just kept being good. Yeah, it was a great night. It was a good night. I know, I remember specifically, I had not. not done comedy. I've been taking a little break, a little nervous getting that show going, which I don't get nervous a lot. I got a little nervous doing this show, but it was very good. Check it out. It's not long watch. I think it's 13 minutes. I've watched it on the way here.

It's going to be great. You happy without it came out of it? Yeah, I'm very excited. I'm very happy how the way it came out. Try to show my wife, she was like, nope, I'll watch it Friday. All right. Well, that's, that shows that your wife loves you because she wants an add of view to the view count. Yeah, I appreciate it. So for the lady who says that Jay's wife doesn't love him. She does. That's right. Most likely. Making bad calls for these kids because my wife doesn't love you. That's right. Well, hey guys, we appreciate you tuning in. It's been a lot of fun. We're having a good time. And until next time. Okay, we'll see you. Hey!