The Nateland Podcast - 289: Nateland | Ep #289 - The In Between Episode (Revisiting Fairy Tales, Cartoons & School)
Episode Date: January 28, 2026Unfortunately, the ice storm in Nashville prevented the guys from debuting The Public Figures Podcast until next week so this week we thought we'd take a look at some classic Nateland episodes featur...ing Brian, Aaron, and Dusty. The guys relive their school days, take a trip down memory lane remembering their favorite cartoons, and look at the difference between fairy tales, folk tales, and fables.Superpower: Superpower.comHead to Superpower.com and use code NATE at checkout for $20 off your membership. Live up to your 100-Year potential. #superpowerpod#adChime: Chime.com/NATEChime is not just smarter banking, it is the most rewarding bank. It just takes a few minutes to sign up. Head to Chime.com/NATE. Warby Parker: WarbyParker.com/NATEOur listeners get 15% off plus free shipping when they buy two or more pairs of prescription glasses at WarbyParker.com/NATE — using our link helps support the show. #WarbyParker #ad
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Hello, this is Aaron Weber speaking, by the way.
We were excited to record the first ever episode of the new public figures podcast this week.
Unfortunately, Mother Nature had other plans.
I'm sure you've seen, even if you weren't affected by the storms, a lot of places got hit hard.
And Nashville in particular took a beating.
All right, Dusty Slay, we're having a good time.
Hey, this week was supposed to be the...
the first week of the public figures podcast, the brand new podcast.
But the snowpocalypse came in and just turned Nashville into just an ice-filled, probably beautiful, but an ice-filled landscape.
Hey, everybody, if I look more worried than even normal, it's because we have no electricity at our house,
and I'm in a hotel room with my wife, three-year-old daughter, and our yappy dog.
my wife and daughter went down to the lobby
my dog's still here
but anyway
yeah we're probably going to be without power
for a while
Nashville is pretty much shut down
at the time of recording this I think there's still
about you know
hundreds of thousands of people without
power around the city
so we were unable to get into the studio
today and record
and because Brian couldn't figure out
Zoom
this is the best that we can do
personally we got very lucky my wife and I we never lost power the whole time which I'm
learning was pretty rare so we're pretty grateful for that I got to be honest I was in San
Diego this weekend so I kind of had the opposite experience as most people that were in
Nashville I got back yesterday and it doesn't look like this this ice is going to
melt anytime soon so
Hopefully things get better soon, and I hope you and your family are doing okay.
And I was up in Cleveland.
I sent my family down to Alabama, so I flew to Atlanta.
My mom picked me up, and now I'm in Alabama.
And it's a beautiful sunny day.
Alabama is always beautiful.
So I'm here, and we can't do the first episode of the podcast today.
And I'm sorry about that.
I hate that.
So unfortunately, I'm bummed that we're not going to get to do a podcast this week.
our first podcast, Public Figures Podcast.
But Nashville's just, you know, it's just not good here right now.
But hopefully we'll get powered back soon.
And we're going to have a great episode this week, a classic of me, Aaron Dusty.
So it's still going to be great, still going to be fun.
Just so you can get a taste for what the Public Figures podcast is going to be.
And we're excited to get in there and get things going, you know, without Nate.
starting our own thing.
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Okay, welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the Nate Land podcast.
I'm here with Brian Bates, as always.
I'm here with Aaron Weber as well.
These guys are two of my best friends,
and I'm just happy to be here with them.
This week, you know, a few weeks ago,
Dusty broke down Pinocchio,
and people loved it.
So I'm like, this is expand a little bit.
The top two movies right now, do you know what they are?
No idea.
I can see it on the sheet in front of you, but.
Oh, Moana 2 and Wicked.
Okay.
Both, I would say, to some degree, are fairy tales, especially wicked, right?
Well, what is a fairy tale?
Fairy tale is, there's a broad definition, but generally, there's fairy tales, there's folk tales, there's fables.
Okay.
Fables generally have a message.
It's usually an animal that has human characteristics, and there's a,
lesson to be learned in it. Like a parable? Like where there's something you're supposed to take away from it?
Yeah, like the tortoise in the hair. Right. That's a fable.
Folktales are stories that while made up, there might be some truth to, to the point where Dusty probably believes them.
Paul Bunyan, Johnny Appleseed. Things like that. Yeah, John Henry.
That's probably true. Yeah, I mean, all these things are probably based in truth. I don't believe anybody
any of these imaginations out here.
You don't think anybody makes something up entirely?
No.
What do you think Lord of the Rings is based on?
Well, I think it's, you know, they kind of loosely based it on Christianity in the Bible, right?
So it's like, yeah, it's like, you know, you make up some stuff, but were there ogres?
Probably.
But you know what I mean?
John Henry.
John Henry was a real person, most likely.
but the story was that he was a still driving man.
He battled the machine to see he could be better.
He won.
He died in the process.
None of that's probably true.
Yeah.
Probably is.
Okay.
And then Paul Bunyan was probably real too.
Lumberjack.
The big blue ox.
Yeah.
So folk tales are exaggerated.
Like George Washington cutting down a cherry tree.
That never happened.
I guess that would be a folk tale.
But it's based on a real,
Why do we think it didn't happen?
Because I think, didn't we talk about this on the podcast?
I don't think about 36 years ago.
Really that big.
No, it's just, I think somebody admitted they made it up as just a device to prove the point.
I cannot tell a lie.
Yeah, to.
So you would lie to make a story about not lying?
Yeah.
But is that really lying or is that just, is that lying?
If you told me that George Washington cut down a chance.
tree and he didn't.
But what's the point of that story?
That George Washington would always tell the truth.
That George Washington was a virtuous man who prioritized telling the truth.
Yeah.
So that's the takeaway.
Over eating cherries.
Right. It's not about the cherries.
It could be even like a tree.
Maybe it was during his campaign.
They make this build this story to build his image.
Yeah, yeah, or something, you know, somebody trying to, I think it's somebody trying to sell a biography about him after the fact.
To prove he never told a lie, we're going to tell a lie in his behalf.
But is that really a lie?
That's my point.
That's right.
Or what was the cherry tree an analogy for something else?
I think it's just, doesn't it have a little more than like apple tree?
Someone just said, doesn't the cherry tree sound?
Yeah.
That little pop to it.
Nativity scene.
Typical nativity scene.
I made a point recently,
the wise man were not there when Jesus was a baby.
Yeah,
it comes like a month later, right?
Could have been years later even.
Yeah, yeah.
But someone argues me,
the point of this painting that we were talking about
is to show that everyone came to realize,
don't take it so literal is what the person was telling me.
Sure. What if it was just, there was just three guys that happened to be there? And everybody's like, those are the wise men. And they're like, no, no, no, we're just, you know, we're just, you know, there was a lot of hoopla. We wanted to see what's going on over here. We're not that smart, really. Don't call us wise. You know, check it out. But it's like, yeah, we're not the wise men, but we were there. And then the wise men come later. Yeah. And then we're the wise men. Yeah. Nah, no, no, no, no, no. Nah, they've already been here. Nice try.
And then fairy tales generally very often have a fairy or a witch or some type of magic involved.
Something supernatural.
Supernatural that's tricking you.
There's usually the mom's gone dead.
There's an evil stepmother very often.
They have a very similar fairy tales because very often there's fairies above.
Okay.
Which some people believe are also real.
At this table.
Fairies.
So I don't know if we'll get in any that Dusty doesn't think actually happen.
but um but anyway i do i did bring a story that i'd like to read all right okay do you may do it now
well i don't know what it is the right time yeah it's called um flora's magic flute okay let's get a
shot of that this is a story i read to my daughter and i want to read it to you guys because
there's a bit of a hole in the story here okay how long is it it's not very long okay 14 pages
now it's not very long long ago deep in the woods a tiny viney
village of fairies lived in peace, including a fairy girl named Flora. I think we can all believe
that. Yeah. Um, for as long, now this is an important detail. For as long as the fairies could
remember, every day had been clear and sunny. Okay. Flora played music on her magic flute and all day
the fairies danced and sang. But then one day, the sky grew dark and it began to rain. Soon the fairy
village was muddy and gray. Everyone in the village was sad. Would the sun ever return? They said.
Then Flora remembered how happy everyone had been when she played her flute on sunny days.
Could her music make them feel happy now? She took out her flute and began to play.
All right, here we go.
Flora's music made the other fairies remember, now, keep, made the other fairies remember
that after the last rain, okay?
go back. Let's go back.
Here we go. Let's go back.
For as long as the fairies could remember, every day had been clear and sunny.
Here we go. And it made the fairies remember that after the last rain, the trees and flowers had become even prettier than before.
So they all danced and splashed in the rain to celebrate the beauty that was to come.
So this is talking about some kind of village where the village where the...
they forget everything.
They can't remember anything.
Because for as long as they could remember, every day had been clear and sunny.
Right, right.
But then when day darkness came, Flora played the flute.
Wow.
Now, there's no talk of the flute being magic.
It's called magic, but it's just a flute.
But somehow they...
It's called the magic flute, but they never mentioned it being magic in the story.
Oh, but they can't remember anything.
Every day is bright and sunny.
Then she plays the flute.
And suddenly they're like, oh, we remember after the last rain.
Wow.
Well, every day had been clear and sunny.
So what last rain?
But you don't think music can be?
Mic drop.
Let's see that book.
Okay.
Flora's Magic Flute, written by Stephen Hall,
illustrated by Jennifer Bartlett.
I'm trying to teach my kids to observe things.
I mean, I want to collect all four of these.
Griff learns to fly, Augie the Grump, and Scuttles Diamonds.
Yeah.
This is a...
What are you reading to your daughter?
I'm reading just black and white pictures at this point.
You're reading philosophy.
Yeah.
I'm not reading her Aristotle just yet, but...
Black and white.
It's just like a little book with a mirror in it and that kind of stuff.
Oh, yeah.
She's just starting to smile, which is pretty fun.
Oh, that's fun.
Pretty fun.
That is fun.
Pretty fun to get like a real...
Not just a I'm farting smile, but like a real...
I'm looking at you and smiling.
That's pretty fun.
This book, you don't think music can be transformative like that, Dusty?
I do, but my whole problem with it is that these fairies were like, it's never rained before.
But then the moment Flora started playing the flute, they were like, oh, we remember the last rain.
I think this is a story about art and how art gives us perspective in life.
These people are, these fairies are just plowing through life, working hard.
They're not looking up at all.
And they're so bogged down with the minutia and the reality of everyday life that they get depressed, right?
And then an artist comes along and goes, no, zoom out a little bit.
There is beauty in the world.
Good things are coming.
And they go, oh, and that's what art can do to people.
And also like, wake up.
Don't you remember it?
It's rained before.
I don't think it has quite that energy.
Yeah, wake up, you idiots.
You remember things, it rains sometimes.
How do you think we're growing all these mushrooms?
Mushrooms don't grow without moisture and a little bit of darkness.
This reminds me of a...
When I was a kid, it looks like the Smurfs.
They do.
When I was a kid, we read a book at school about a place where it rained every day.
Essentially that.
Seattle.
The kids never had seen a day where it hadn't rained.
They always had to be indoors.
They locked one of their kids.
They bullied him, put him in the closet just to mess with him.
Jeez.
One day, well, I guess it was a folk tale?
The same day.
Same day.
This is from Brian's Journal.
Finally.
I wrote it while I was in the closet.
This could be, yeah, some truth to it.
Finally, it stops raining.
And the kids get to go out and enjoy the sunshine for the very first time in their life.
Wow.
When they finally come in.
at the end at the end, they realized, oh, yeah, we'd locked that kid in the closet and he didn't
get to experience.
Wow.
It's kind of a dark.
What's the...
And what a loser he is.
You didn't even see the sun.
Is that the point of the story?
I don't know.
I just remember reading that as a kid.
It like haunted me.
What's the turn at the end?
Is there something, does something happen?
I mean, I think they felt maybe a little bad.
And then they found out that kid was blind.
Maybe the turn is they all decide, let's not even tell him.
him that we saw the son.
Maybe.
And then it's like he never missed out on it.
If he doesn't know that it happened.
It could be something fun there.
I'm subjecting my daughter to Christmas shows that I watch as a kid.
Yeah. And I've made a...
Bonanza.
Bananza Christmas.
I do like bananas.
Yeah, me too.
It's a good show.
Hoss.
Hoss, little Joe.
And Gunsmoke is good.
Yeah.
Smokes good, yeah.
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer,
which I had her watch last night.
It was a little much for her.
They have an abominable snowman.
Yeah.
I remember, yeah, that part's,
it's a little, it was, she kind of,
she didn't like it.
But then Frosty the Snowman,
and she's really gotten into Frosty the Snowman.
She wants to watch it over and over and over again.
And I don't know if you remember.
Particularly the part where he's in the greenhouse.
That's what I'm getting at.
Okay, sorry.
That's, do you, I don't know how much you remember it.
I don't remember that.
Basically, there's an evil magician.
wants the hat back because that's what's making him come to life.
So the hat is what animates Frosty, the snowman.
Hat never belonged to Frosty, to be honest with it.
I don't know if this magician was evil or not.
He's like, I just want my hat back.
Well, they try to make it clear that he threw the hat away and it discarded it and that they claimed it.
But to warm, they're out in the snow, trying to get North Pole, to warm the little girl up, they go into a greenhouse.
And then the magician shuts the door.
and locks him in there.
Oh, my gosh.
So then Santa Claus shows up and goes in,
and there's just that little girl at a puddle of water,
and she's crying because Frosty is melted.
And Santa's like, don't worry, it's Christmas snow.
We'll bring it back to life.
And they do, of course, bring it back to life.
Okay.
But the trauma going through watching her best friend slowly melt away,
he's talking to her.
You don't see that, of course,
I just like, that girl's going to need some counseling.
Oh, yeah, and all the kids watching it, right?
Well, it was just, you mean watching the show?
Yeah.
Yeah, you don't see him melt.
You just see the puddle of water.
And it can't be the same frosty.
You just can't make new snow and put it on his head and it be the same guy.
They're just going to have to re-freeze the water that melted.
Which is what, it's kind of what they did.
It kind of like zipped out the door and spun and become frosty again.
Okay.
With still with the hat?
Well, they had to put the hat.
back on. The magician still was claiming it, but Santa told him he's not going any
presents, lest he. I don't know if I know the story of Frosty the Snowman. This girl made a
snowman and then the hat got put on it. But when we put it on his head, he began to dance around.
Frosty the snowman. You know the song? I know the song was a jolly, jolly, dude. I don't know
the lyrics that well. The song came first. Okay. Song came first. One of Elvis is.
songs. Then they made
an animated show. Same with Rudolph the Red
Nosed Reindeer. Gene Autry like sang them and then
Whoa. I didn't know that.
The song came before
The show. Did the song invent
the entire or the first to tell
the story? I think so maybe.
Wow. You know, there's
a song
where he says
what is it where he says
we'll pretend
like
oh dang
talking about the snowman and then they go we'll pretend they say we'll pretend that he is
parson brown which is like a preacher or whatever or somebody that can marry you
and it says we'll pretend that he is parson brown he'll say are you married we'll say no man
but you can do the job when you're in town you know that song you guys know that song what song is
i think it's frosty the snowman yeah yeah that's like verse seven i've never heard i've never gone that
deep in the song
I think you're right, but that's not, they don't do that part on the show.
He does say that, but I thought, I didn't know what Parson Brown was.
I thought they were saying marching proud.
We'll pretend that he is marching proud and he'll say, are you married?
We'll say no man.
I was like, are they going to marry Frosty the Snowman?
And I think this is actually from the song Winter Wonderland.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, not Frosty the Snowman.
But they all blend together.
But yeah, we'll pretend.
See the line though?
Parsons is actually another word for a clergyman, especially a Protestant pastor.
The word has gone largely unused since around 1980.
But apparently he could marry people.
But I just thought he said marching proud, not Parson Brown.
And then they said, he'll say, are you married?
We'll say no man, but you can do the job when you're in town.
I thought they were marrying the snowman.
Oh, I say.
That's walking in a winter land.
That's the song?
Winter Wonderland.
I don't know if they're walking in it.
Yeah.
Got I'm confused.
Okay.
And this is a different guy than Jack Frost, huh?
Frosty Snowman is a different guy.
Yeah, because we looked up last night because she's really into it.
There is a Frosty 2.
And the global warming.
The antagonist is Jack Frost.
What about the Santa Claus 3?
You know that one?
That's also Jack Frost.
He's battling Martin Short as Jack Frost.
They're battling.
Yeah.
So Jack Frost is a villain?
Yeah, in Santa Claus 3.
I thought Jack Frost is a good guy.
The Santa Claus.
I did too.
There's like a, like a CLAWS.
No, like a clause.
Like a clause and a contract.
But that's spelled the same.
Maybe just the E.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
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And now back to the episode.
All right.
So, fairy tale started back to the podcast.
even before people were writing.
They were doing oral stories and passed it down.
And then 1600s, Charles Peralt,
something funny guys?
Sometimes you've got to clear your throat.
I don't know, I don't know.
I just caught Dusty's Eye.
Charles Baralt wrote,
A Tales of Mother Goose.
This is in 1697.
It had Little Red Riding Hood, Tom Thumb, Cinderella, Puss and Boots,
some classics.
Oh, man.
The way these old books.
books, what they call cats is too much.
Yeah, I don't like it.
I'm trying to read these things and what they call chickens and even a horse.
There's one nursery rhyme I'm reading with what they call a horse, basically a male rooster plus
horse.
Yeah.
And I'm like to Banbury Bush, riding the blank horse to Banbury Bush.
I'm like, I don't think so.
Not in this house.
We're not.
That's crazy.
Wait until you start reading Mark Twain.
A lot of the, these fairy tales are very dark.
Many of the classic ones are incredibly dark.
And they were written for adults.
Okay.
And then later they were kind of sanitized for children.
Right.
To some degree.
But some of these are incredibly.
See, Disney.
This old man, he played two.
He played knick-knack on a shoe.
That's apparently about like the Irish potato family.
Nicknack, paddywack,
a dog of bone.
This old man came rolling.
Yeah, that'd be a nursery ride.
Yeah, it's apparently, is that not what we're doing?
We are.
Apparently.
But we haven't gotten to nursery arms yet.
Okay.
But that's about the Irish famine, I think.
The potato family.
Like people coming for food.
Wow.
They're giving him a bone.
The knock on the door, give me a bone.
And they go, we can't because all we have is potatoes.
Yeah, we're out of them.
Something like that.
Yeah.
Um, so Aesop's Fables
Asop.
Yeah.
Aesop, right?
Yeah, Aesop did it, man.
Yeah, his collection of fables credited to Aesop, a slave and storyteller who lived in ancient Greece.
What's some of his fables?
Boy who cried wolf.
Oh, yeah.
Man, that stood the test of time.
Yeah, did.
Tortoise in the hair?
Oh, tortoise in the hair.
You know what bothers me about tortoise in the hair?
They're constantly.
All they ever talk about in every fairy tale is how slow the turtle is.
It's like, cut the guy some slack here.
Well, he wins in the end.
That's the point.
Yeah, but it's like they're always just, oh, he's so slow.
And it's like the idea of that story is to tell us that the tortoise can beat the hair if he's slow and steady.
But the reality is the hair's beating you every time.
The hair's going to beat you every time.
Well, clearly not.
You find a different race.
Don't try to race the hair.
Race other tortoises.
Okay, because you're never going to beat the hair.
This is you swimming.
You're going to be ahead of Danielle, and then you're going to start feeling cocky, and you're going to slow down.
This is just like we saw it in the football game with the Titans.
Leon Lett famously in the Super Bowl, remember that?
He slowed down.
He was much of a hair, but Don Beebe, snuck up behind him, knocked the ball loose.
Yeah.
I'm looking at a list of Aesop's fables.
He's never going to beat the hair.
We know about tortoise and the hair, but a lot of it.
of these have been forgotten
over time. Let's get a couple.
The wolf and the lamb. How about the monkey and the camel?
What is that about? Classic.
Well, I would think the monkey thought
he didn't need water and the camel was like
I have it in my back at all times.
The moral of this is
do not try to ape your bettors.
What does that mean? I don't know.
What a reach that is.
The camel carries
a lot of water in his back.
There's a lot going on here at the club.
I don't know if you hear that. I think there's some
kind of theater troupe out there performing.
It's a much different energy out there.
I'll tell you something about ASA.
Yeah.
All except for the peacock, he loves the and the the the blank and blank.
Yeah.
The wolf in his shadow.
The travelers and the purse.
The frogs who wished for a king.
Let's get into that.
What about the blank and the jewel?
These are so much longer.
But this one, they reduce it down to the moral, which is nice.
So the frog who wished for a king, the moral of that is, be sure to
be sure you can better your condition
before you seek to change.
Geez, well, that doesn't...
Or how about...
Sometimes you got to change
to better your condition.
Yeah, that's worth it.
The goose that laid the golden egg.
That's an A-Sup favor.
Okay.
Do you guys know that?
Not really.
Not the way.
Yeah, I mean, there was a goose.
Kind of a clunky title.
Couldn't lay any eggs.
And then one day laid a golden egg.
And then the king came along
and wanted to eat the egg
because he's like,
I got a lot of gold.
This doesn't really mean anything to me.
What I need right now is an egg.
No.
None of that's correct.
I was buying it for a while.
Yeah.
I was so convinced.
I don't really know what the point of this is.
There's a man and his wife.
They had a hen that laid a golden egg every day.
Okay.
And they got...
Actual gold.
Yeah.
The egg was made of gold.
Not just the color gold.
It's an egg of gold.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chain?
It's an egg.
Okay.
And they got greedy and said, well, I mean, she must be full of gold inside.
So they killed her to cut her open to get the gold.
And this story is about the dumbest people that ever lived.
The point is not to be greedy.
Yeah.
And use your.
brain a little bit.
Wow.
That's so dumb.
That's the dumbest people I've ever heard of.
Man, for two years straight, this chicken is making us the best.
We better kill the chicken.
Let's cut it open. Let's not even try to.
What would be that a modern day equivalent of?
The dog and the bone.
Me killing Nate.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Trying to cut Nate open.
Yeah.
Be like, Nate's given a lot of opportunities.
He must be.
full of opportunities.
Let's cut them open.
It was still his wallet.
Yeah.
Let's grab them.
The, I think it would be similar to the, you know, the dog bone where the dog's
holding the bone and he's looking over the river.
Right.
And the river, he looks in and he sees his reflection.
And in that, the bone is much bigger.
So he drops the bone to get the bigger bone.
But it's actually just a reflection.
But that's, that's a dog.
So you understand why he would think that.
Except for the dog holding that bigger bone.
bone must be bigger too. So it's like,
are you really think you about to take it from that? I don't know that
I don't think it was bigger, right? I just
think he saw another bone. He's like, I want that one too.
And this one's moving a little bit
because it's in the river. Yeah. But this is
a couple who owns a farm.
Yep. I imagine they pay taxes. Like they
run an operation. They're
too smart to
There's no excuse.
Even just look at the mass. You're seeing this egg.
How many eggs
could possibly be inside the goose.
I know.
Even if the goose was just full of the eggs,
how many could possibly be in there?
Just let it keep turning them out.
Mm-hmm.
The lion and the mouse?
I don't know that one.
The...
It's about a lion who got a new computer
and having a lot of trouble with the mouse.
The lion gets mad at the mouse for waking him up.
The mouse begs for forgiveness and basically says it would be no honor for you to kill a little mouse like me.
Maybe someday I could help you in return.
And the line's like, yeah, right, whatever.
I'll let you go.
They're out of mercy.
And then the lion, I think there's different versions, gets caught in a rope and the mouse bites the rope part and saves the lion.
Wow.
So I guess I don't know what the message is that even little people.
Even if somebody keeps waking you up.
Let them live.
That's the message.
Yeah.
That is the message.
Way too specifically.
Yeah.
Do not murder over small inconveniences.
Don't kill a mouse.
I never know what they'll do for you in the end.
Hansel and Gretel's so dark.
Yeah, what is that?
So Hansel and Gretel,
they're leaving bread in the forest or something.
What is Hansel and Gretel all about?
I think they find a house made of...
So it's two little Germans walking through the forest.
Yeah.
And they're leaving bread behind them.
And they got lost.
And they, why did, but I think a bird came along and was eating the bread.
Is that, they were dropping yet?
Is that true?
Yeah.
I had to look the story up last night because I could remember.
The stepmom told the dad, get rid of these kids.
So he took them out in the woods to get rid of them.
Oh my God.
But the dad.
Wait, well, hold on.
Don't breeze past that.
I mean, it gets much worse.
Okay.
It's a story about a weak man, first off.
Yeah.
You get rid of the stepmom.
just get rid of her.
Well, he clearly doesn't care about the kids either.
No.
He goes, all right, I'll take him out to the woods and just leave them out there.
He didn't like it, but he had to do what his wife said.
Oh, my gosh.
He didn't have to if he were a stronger man.
Why did she want the kids gone?
Were the kids bad kids?
Were they misbehaving?
She wanted some peace and quiet.
I mean, I love my wife, but if she were like, take the kids to the woods and leave them,
I'd go, how about we just, we're going to leave.
I go, I'm calling immigration.
Yeah. She's a citizen now.
I'm sorry. Sorry, Anna.
So the kids figured it out. They overhear the plan. So the first...
The kids are old enough to understand. How old are they?
Well, I don't know. They're old enough to understand.
Honestly, probably old enough to be out of the house.
They're 32 and 30.
That's a thing that Hans-Ogrado gets left out.
That's the message. They did need to get out of that.
Yeah, it was time.
You voted in four elections.
They're like stepbrother.
Okay, so I thought they were like toddlers.
As it goes along, you start to side with the stepmom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're probably nine or ten, I'm guessing.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
And they get wind of it.
So they have these pebbles that they drop along the way.
And the kids are Hansel and Greta.
Yeah, they drop along the way.
And he drops them off.
And that helps them get back to the house because they follow the
pebble's back. The stepmom says, do it again. And he's like, okay. And this time they take
breadcrumbs, but the plant doesn't work because the birds come and eat it. So now they're out
there in the woods. They find a house made of candy, right? Kake and stuff like that. Yeah. And they're
like, we've hit the jackpot. We're glad we're glad we're at us. But it's really a evil witch.
Who wants to eat them? Sister to the stepmom. Wants to eat them. She has to fat and hensel up first.
So she holds him hostage to fatten him up before she eats him.
The girls are, the girl, Gretel's already good to go.
Yeah, I mean, her name's Gretel.
You can imagine what she looks like.
Yeah, okay, okay.
I don't know, but she's fattening Hansel up.
And then, bottom line is Gretel tricks the, the witch.
like, hey, what's in the stove or something like that?
And then she pushes her into the oven and kills her.
Okay.
Gretel does.
Yeah.
And then they head back to the house to the same to the stepmom.
Well, since they escape with the witch's treasure.
So.
Oh, so you had treasure there.
I guess.
Why don't they just stay in the candy house rather than go back to the family that just
tried to murder?
Yeah, that's a good point.
That's what I would think they do.
But maybe the, you know, maybe the cops will come around going, where's that witch?
These fat kids are eating on a cake
Ginger bread
They've got no roof on the house anymore
Because they're eating the cake
Houses the golden goose
And they're up there eating it
Gretel I told you don't eat the roof
We need that
Eating the support beams in there
Sleeping Beauty and Snow White
I couldn't have told you the difference
Do you know?
I mean I know now because I looked
But I get those two things
They're very similar
I mean as the dwarves
Is that the difference?
That's Snow White.
That's no white.
You have something saying, is that the difference?
Sleeping Beauty is just no dwarves?
No comic release.
Snow White, I mean, she was asleep, but she was poisoned.
So they thought she was dead.
Okay.
And then...
She's poisoned by whom?
There's always a witch.
Okay.
There's always an evil witch.
Yeah.
I've been telling you guys that since I joined the podcast.
Yeah.
There's always a win.
Even before that.
This is finally a come around to...
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
But then at the end of snow white...
Now everybody's like, witch.
are good.
Oh, I guess it was a queen.
I'm a good witch.
In this case, it was a queen.
And then once they find out what's going on,
the prince who saves Snow White
makes the queen wear red-hot iron slippers
and to dance to them until she drops dead.
Wow, well, that's insane.
Jeez, Louise.
Little Red Riding Hood, I mean, again,
the wolf, you know, shows up,
swallows grandma hole.
Then Little Red Riding Hood shows up,
swallows her hole.
And then that's the end.
In the original version, yeah,
then he takes a nap.
Then they sanitize a little bit,
and the next better version is,
people come to save them,
cut the wolf open.
Grandma and Little Red Riding Hood
are fine.
They're just stuck in there.
They're just hanging out.
Yeah, like a boer.
Wolf's got poor digestion.
Yeah.
And then they put rocks in the
wolf so he can't move.
And then there's much more sanitized versions.
Okay.
But these are so dark.
Yeah.
What's the moral of the story when the wolf just eats them both?
Keep an eye out for wolves.
Hmm.
I don't know.
I do like that.
I'll be honest with you, though.
I like it.
Let's put some fear into people because they need to be paying attention.
I love a story that ends with the main character taking a nap.
That's just good storytelling right there.
Well, Disney kind of came and made these much more palatable.
Pallitable.
But I think that probably was like the 90s on.
Yeah.
So I was already in college and then working.
So most of these stories, I don't really know that well.
You never caught the modern version of it.
I want to know what the three little pigs really what.
I mean, no, no, what is it, the three little bears?
Goldilocks and the three bears are right?
Yeah, Goldilocks.
What really happened there?
What's the true story of that?
Goldilocks is dead.
Bear came back and she's dead and they tore her up hey bear one of my favorite books as a kid
was called uh i think it's called like the true story of the three little pigs and it was from
the wolves perspective it's like sympathetic to him oh yeah it was great illustrations were great
i tried to make a joke one time about the three little pigs was talking about like living in
a trailer you know and it's like and the wolf is a tornado
and if you and if you
Spend your time playing around
Instead of getting a proper brick home
The tornado is gonna get you
But never have had it out
What about what about Humpty Dumpty?
I'm still working on that
I'm still working on that joke
People say Humpty Dumpty was a cannon or whatever
And that kind of ruins the gentleman
Humpty Dumpton is a cannon
Yeah
What was that mean?
I thought he was an egg
I know he's an egg and the thing
But every
I posted a clip of the video one time
And everybody's like oh he's a canon
and he was a canon.
I'm like, listen, try to just hear the joke.
I'm not really seeking answers.
Yeah, you shouldn't let that deterred.
Everybody thinks he's an egg.
Yeah, look at him.
Well, I'm starting to get why somebody pushed him off the brick wall.
Yeah, I mean, put some pants on.
That's not how normally you're dancing up there.
Hey, can you quiet down for a little bit?
And he's just twirling his baton.
Humpty-dumpty, sumter on a wall.
He's like, it's 20-25, guys.
Come on.
Yes, I will continue to do.
dance up and then they just kick them off.
Yeah, I mean, that guy.
Send the horses.
All the king's horses.
Yeah.
And all the king's men.
I don't even think the men got down from the horses.
Can you do it?
No, I can't reach.
Can't reach.
No, Humpty.
Beautiful legs, though.
Tone.
Jack and the Beanstalk?
Okay.
That's true.
That is a true.
I do believe that.
That there is another, you know, kind of layer above us where giants live.
And Jack.
Above us?
Above us, yeah.
Like where?
Why can't we see it?
Past the firmament.
Okay.
And you get up there through a vegetable.
Well, however you can get there.
And who are they?
Jack.
Well, they're, you know, they're giants and cannibals.
Well, Jack and the Beanstalk.
Do you know the story here?
Let's just move on.
He buy some magic beans.
He buy some magic beans.
When he should have got food, I think.
Yep.
Yeah.
Because what his mom was like, go get food for the family.
I think so.
And he bought magic beans instead.
Yep.
A little bit on the mom for making the kid go buy the groceries.
Clearly, Jack is not capable of just getting the groceries.
Is this the same guy who jumped over a candlestick?
I think it's the same guy that killed the golden goose.
Okay.
So this guy, Jack's in a lot of trouble.
Yeah.
He buys a magic beans.
Jack Bean nimbled from a witch, probably.
A witch probably sold it to him.
I would think, yeah.
But the real magic beans, they sprout an enormous bean stalk.
Yep.
Probably putting out lots of beans.
Which Jack climbs, and it takes them to.
He doesn't have to climb it.
He doesn't have to.
He just putting out a lot of beans.
He's just got nothing to do.
Yeah.
So he climbs it.
You want to climb it to see what's up there?
And there's a castle up there.
This is where Fifi Fofo Fum comes from.
I smell the blood of an Englishman.
Yeah, so that he's English.
Yep.
So, okay.
Gets up there.
That's where the giant lives.
Right.
Giant's not home.
His wife's home.
Jack's like, I'll stay for a minute.
Is this real?
Yeah, this is real.
Okay.
And he's like, Jack's like, he just hangs out with the giant's wife.
I'm hungry, he said, and she gives him some food.
And then the giant comes home, Fifi Fof Fum, he hides.
And the wife's like, no, there's no.
you're crazy.
They're not here.
And the giant's like, all right, whatever, I'll go to sleep.
Jack leaves, goes home,
comes back up to stalk later, again to see his wife, I guess.
Jack's got a crush, you know what I mean?
That's where the Jack be nimble, jabby quick.
He's up there in the giant jumping over the candlestick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think eventually the giant wakes up.
This keeps happening.
The giant wakes up, chases him down.
You keep smelling them the whole time.
I smell the blood.
Yeah, I smells him.
Okay.
And he's like, I guess I'm crazy.
Where's the giant going every day?
To work.
To work?
Yeah, just everyday life up there.
Yeah.
In the sky realm.
Long commute.
Yeah.
And then eventually he chases him down, but Jack gets down, I think he cuts down the beanstalk, kills the giant.
I guess his wife too.
So the giant's on the beanstalk and he cuts it down.
He falls, creating the grand can.
The cloud realm is not held up by the beanstalk.
No, no, no. Beanstalk is just a pathway there. Okay. Well, of course, there's a cloud realm. Mario showed us that.
Well, I'm just saying in this story, there's no cloud round. Right, right, right.
Well, what was up there then?
Just a castle. Just the top of the beanstalk. That's where he lived.
But the, well.
It had to be more, I guess, if he's leaving. Yeah, I mean, it had to be there before the beanstalk.
There's a whole economy up there if he's going.
The beanstalk was just the way to get there.
Yeah, it was just the portal.
It was already there.
It's the interstate.
Oh, I see.
I envisioned him the top of the beanstalk is where the house was.
It was on top of the beanstalk.
No.
No, no, this was just a pathway there.
There's a whole city there.
Yeah, don't be silly.
There's...
All right, we'll do a couple more.
All right, if you hear a fairy tale story, a modern-day fairy tale story,
you know kind of what that means, right?
You and Lucy, the power couple.
Oh, a modern day fairy, like a storybook.
Story book, yeah.
Story book, romance, whatever, something like that.
A Cinderella story.
They're all kind of mean the same thing.
Cinderella story, when Cinderella story is used in sports now, it's the...
Rags to riches.
It's the team that has zero chance that everybody writes off.
Mm-hmm.
Just like Cinderella.
Is that really what's...
I thought Cinderella is just like she...
They lose a show.
Yeah, she, what is even Cinderella?
She was ugly or something?
She wasn't ugly.
She put on a shoe, and she became...
She became the princess.
I guess she didn't get hotter, but...
But did she have the stepsisters, and they were real mean to her?
Evil stepsisters.
The evil step sisters, and then they go to the ball.
But there's no beast.
No.
This is not Beauty in the Beast.
I think the Beast is the sisters.
Oh.
And then she gets the carriage made out of pumpkin.
But then after midnight,
things turned back and she lost her slipper.
There's a lesson in there that things, good things don't typically happen after midnight.
Right.
And, but also if you leave a little something behind with the person that you have an interest in.
That's a reason to come back.
They'll come find you.
So if you're ever into a girl and you want to see her again, leave some stuff over there.
So you can call and go, oh, I left my phone charger over there.
I need to come get it.
That's what George Costanza.
Seinfeld. He says, I always do a leave behind.
Yeah.
Leave behind.
And then he has a reason to go over there.
Ah, thanks for holding on to this charger for me.
Do you want to hook up while I'm here?
You know what else needs charging? My ego.
Three blind mice.
It's a good one.
Cut off his tail with a carving knife.
You ever see such a thing in your life.
Two little mice are in a bucket of milk.
What was that?
Catch me if you can.
Remembering that?
There's two little mice.
They're in a bucket of milk.
And one of them turned so hard that he turned it into butter.
You know what I'm talking about?
No.
I have no idea of it.
You'll ever see Catch me if you can?
The Leonardo DiCaprio?
Yeah.
20 years ago.
Two little blind mice stuck in a pile of milk.
It's a good film.
I like your Christopher walking here.
It's a good.
That was good.
It's a little Sebastian.
There's 60 non-variance to the Cinderella story.
Let's go through all that.
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This week's podcast is about...
Look at that.
Cartoons.
Cartoons.
What a segue, dude.
Boom, boom.
I should be doing the same.
sideways up in the year. Pace magazine last week put out a list of the 30 greatest cartoons of all time, 50 greatest cartoons of all time.
So I don't know how you guys want to 50. Okay. I don't know how you guys want to start this, but I don't know if we just want to deep dive into this or.
Well, I like the idea. I think maybe we should do our own list first and then see where they rank up here.
Yeah. Now, Dusty pointed out that we're three different.
generations. I don't know if that's a, like, 10 years probably isn't a generation, but we got,
but enough that our cartoons are different.
Well, us three in particular, right? Like, you're what, 31?
32, yeah. All right, I'm 42 this year. Wow.
Next week, right? Yeah, the 18th of May.
Yeah. 52. 32, 42. Right, so we're just.
Yeah, this is perfect.
So even though these are not just separate generations, that's enough that we all watch
different shows growing up. But did you, when did you guys watch cartoons? Was it Saturday,
morning cartoons. How did you consume these things as children? Well, Saturday mornings was a big deal,
but also there was Nickelodeon for me, which was big. And as a kid, and I don't know where
some of these were at. I'm going to go, this is the 10, and I'm just going to rattle them off.
Can I answer his question before you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want to set the stage first.
Hold your thoughts. I watched Saturday morning.
mornings. Yeah. And I did not have even Nicolode. I didn't have, I just had three channels.
ABC, CBS, and NBC. NBC. And Fox didn't exist, but there was a, there was a fourth channel that you PM.
The WB. The WB. It was like, it was Fox before Fox.
WB was big back then. You think it was just CBS, ABC, NBC and the WB?
I feel like I was I feel like I used to watch the WB a lot
I don't think the butt WB was
doing a thing but I would watch some of these in syndication like
this youngsters coming in here
trashing the WB you grew up in a different WB
my only TV credit is the CW so I'm not trashing
the WB it's predecessor
anyway some of these I watch like in syndication
like afternoon after school or whatever right but most of these
are Saturday morning all right I just
wanted to answer the question go ahead but would you sit in front of the TV bowl of cereal like
oh yeah I think so yeah oh yeah I mean there was no way to cue up anything right like now like I had
you know VHS I had looney tunes on a VHS tape but it was like other than that there was no way to
queue up a cartoon yeah you know you just had to watch what was coming on were you tap and stuff
were y'all tape and stuff from the TV yeah a lot of times this we didn't have V's bcr's when I
really small.
My mom worked in a plant that made VHS tapes.
So, y'all are doing that a lot.
Yeah, we had the hook up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what would you watch?
What were your go-toes?
Well, maybe we should start.
I'm the middle.
So maybe we start with Brian.
All right.
Okay.
What are we doing?
And then work our way down.
Just give us your-
Your favorite cartoons.
I want to hear what it is.
I want to hear what the plot is.
I want to hear why you like it.
You gave us kind of two categories, all time and children.
Yeah.
I mean, I guess what I did was kind of
what I watched as a kid and then what I watch as an adult.
All right.
Well, as a kid, here's five.
Number one, Looney Tunes.
Now, generally what I would say is Bugs Bunny because he was the star.
But that also is Daffy Duck, too.
The Roadrunner, Coyote.
All those are under.
Yosemite Sam, too, was he one of that?
He was always in a Bugs Bunny or Daffy Duck.
He was the bad guy.
Like Elmer Fudd was the bad guy, right?
With both of those too, yeah.
Yosemite Sam was trying to kill Bugs Bunny as well?
Yeah, Simony Sam was maybe in Daffy Duck.
Yeah, yeah.
He was like, hit the guns and...
So all these Luton's were just an animal and then somebody trying to kill it.
Yeah.
There was a lot of that.
Oh, yeah, because the Roadrunner, too.
Was that Looney Tunes?
Yeah.
And that was the Coyote.
It was trying to, yeah, trying to kill the roadrunner.
They're actually pretty violent.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I mean, I like them, but they are like, it is constantly hitting something
over the head with a pan or a rock or shooting over the gun. But it's a cartoon, who cares?
You can do whatever in a cartoon. Sylvester and Twitty Bird. He's trying to eat
Tweetyburg. There it is. Tom and Jerry, the cat's trying to eat the mouse. Tom and Jerry was
Looney Tunes, too? No. I don't know. Was that a separate? I think that was Hannah Barbera.
Oh. But it still is the, you know, a lot of classical music with a cartoon.
Not a lot of words. Yeah, so still those same vibe. Now, I didn't know this.
I looked at that. Looney Tunes had been around since like the 30s or 40s when the first
started. And some of those, maybe not that old, but as far back as the 60s, they would
rear when I was a kid. There were some references that I obviously didn't get. They had some
Humphrey Bogart and different characters. There's some really Asian stereotypes in some of these.
There's a lot. There's a lot of that age. You get too far back.
Pretty badly.
You're like, ah, you know, come on. Yeah. Yeah. I bet even at the time, you're like,
well, if you watch it now for sure. Yeah. But when I was a kid, yeah, you weren't thinking about
it. Yeah, but I love Bugs Bunny. I thought he was so funny. And, and, um, me personally, when I
watch Bugs Bunny now, I think he's, you know, kind of a brick. You know what I mean? When you watch
him now, you're like, like, kind of a jerk out here.
Well, the guy's trying to kill him. Yeah. I guess you're right about that. You can get a few
quips in if you're being shot at. I actually feel sorry for Elmer Fudd when I watch him.
Why? I don't know. I just did. He's just such a pitiful guy. Or Daffy Ducks who you should
feel sorry for. Yeah. You know, he'll trick Elmer Fud into shooting Daffy's face off.
Yeah.
Is Elmer Fudd a kid?
Or is he supposed to be a full-blown adult?
It's supposed to be me.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
That is true.
He's a guy at his 50s, but I don't know.
But I love Bugs Bunny because, and, you know, the Roadrunner and Coyote, not really into that so much.
I think a lot of people felt this way.
They kind of rooted for the Coyote because you started feeling sorry for him.
And there was no, there was no dialogue.
You know these cartoons.
Sure, sure.
And obviously, you know, with Porky Pig, it would end.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
I'll go faster on these.
Okay.
Are you showing this stuff to your daughter yet?
No.
You don't think that they're too young.
She just has her own cartoons that are much more age-appropriate.
I mean, someday maybe, but I've tried to show Daisy some of the, she ain't into it.
Really?
Yeah.
What is it, the animation you think?
It just looks so bad compared to moderate animation?
Yeah.
I'll try to put some on, like I'll be on YouTube.
And I'll try to put it.
She goes, no, no, not this, not this.
But it is the older she gets, the more, I'm like, oh, this is really violent, though.
I really try to keep Daisy away from seeing violent stuff.
Even if it's animals in a cartoon?
Yeah.
That's probably good.
She's so sweet.
She doesn't want to hit anybody.
She's so sweet with her little brother.
And I just want to keep it that way.
I'm going to show my daughter saving Private Ryan when she's six months old.
Yeah.
Just the first 10 minutes on repeat.
Yeah.
Yeah. My daughter watches Peppa Pig, Bluey. We've covered this. A lot of adults love Bluey. It's like one of their favorite shows for adults. That's weird.
All right. Well, Drew Harrison is a big Bluey fan. He says it's a good cartoon.
It is good. Have you watched it? No. He said this is good.
Is it like Blues Clues? It's like one of those? No, it's like a cartoon dog family, you know.
Okay.
Yeah.
I wouldn't watch it if I didn't have kids, but it's something I can enjoy.
while she watches.
Drew does watch it without kids.
I mean, I think that's...
Yeah, Drew's into it.
I'll go a little faster here.
I don't care.
Yeah.
I mean, he says he can't wait for my daughter to finally be into Bly
because she's not into it so that me and him can talk about Bly.
And, I mean, I'm into it.
My daughter's not into it as much.
She's more Pippa Pige and stuff like that.
Yeah.
All right.
Inspector Gadgett.
Inspector Gadget.
Oh, man.
I forgot Inspector Gaggett.
I used to love.
I'm adding that to number three for me.
Okay?
Smurfs.
Smurfs were big right when I was the age to really be in the cartoons.
I liked Smurfs.
It wouldn't make my top ten, but I did like that one.
Super Friends.
That was superheroes that.
Never heard of that.
I remember that a little bit.
What is Super Friends?
It was...
Probably like Avengers.
Yeah, I think this was D.C. though.
I think this was Superman.
Is it where it combined the rings?
Is that the Superfriends?
That's Captain Planet, though.
That's a good one, too.
Oh, man.
Dang, I used to watch that.
I forgot about that.
What is that?
Is that the guys?
Captain Planet, he's our hero.
Gonna take pollution down to zero.
That was all about global warming and stuff.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing.
You're talking about the Wonder Twins?
I have no idea.
This is all before my time.
Super Friends cartoon.
They all had rings.
Oh, this is literally Superman and his friends.
It's like, what's the movie?
With Batman and Superman, they all combined.
Batman versus Superman?
Justice League.
Justice League.
Yeah, it's kind of that.
What was the one now that I got to think about that, Wonder Twins activate or whatever?
Something like that, yeah, where the rings would touch and it would go, psh.
Yeah, but see, with this one, they had five rings.
It was Earth, wind, water, fire.
Fire.
Yeah.
And then they would all combine, and that's when Captain Planet would come out.
Like some, you know, some people would be bulldozing a forest, and they would go,
They would bring their rings together.
Then Captain Blanc would come out and, you know, I don't know, stop it.
And then there we go, but we need wood to live.
And then they wouldn't listen to him.
And it was probably brainwashing to try to get me into global warming and stuff, but I escaped it.
I was like, I still hate pollution, and I'm down to keep pollution down.
Yeah.
Yeah, I haven't heard any of those.
I'm not buying into the propaganda, though.
And then Speed Racer.
Speed Racer.
I never watched that.
But someone just told me recently their parents would not let them watch.
that. Why? I think they thought it was too violent. Isn't it just driving around in a car?
Or do they ever get out of the car? Yeah. I mean, it's Japanese animation, so it was,
it's a little bit different. But I don't remember watching that Saturday morning. I remember
watching that like in the afternoon or something. After school. I feel like I'll watch a little bit of
that, but I was never under that. All right. Let me hit you. Let me hit you with my kids ones. I'm going to go
real quick. WWF Superstars.
That was a cartoon Saturday morning. They had Andre
the Giant, Hulk Hogan, all that. That was
a good one. The Batman cartoon. That was
when I was a little more of a teenager.
I forget, it had an actual
name, Gotham City or something like that.
Really great cartoon, though.
More serious.
Chippendale, rescue Rangers.
Chichichin Dale.
Rescue Rangers.
Chichin Dale.
Danger.
That was a good one.
What would they do?
They just, you know, they were, you know, I don't.
Solve crimes?
It's like Mag.
This is like Magnum P.I.
Yeah, they had those at that outfit.
Okay.
They would solve crimes or whatever.
And then I had Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck.
Here's one.
Heath, the cat.
It spelled like Heathcliff, but we always called it Heath.
So I don't know if, uh, yeah, that was a fun one.
I was always into that.
This was like a Walmart brand Garfield.
Yeah, a little bit.
Like he was living in the trash can or whatever.
Oh, he's like a stray cat.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah, I like this show.
He's got a little more edge doing than Garfield.
Exactly.
I like that show a lot.
This one, I kind of watched it, you know, and it's still on today, but I was more into it as a kid.
And that's The Simpsons.
I'm not been into The Simpsons so much as an adult.
But when I was a kid, I loved The Simpsons.
Then there was Bobby's World.
Bobby's World was Howie Mandel's show when I was a kid.
Great Saturday morning cartoon.
Doug.
Wow.
Doug was really good.
It's the first overlap on my list.
Doug, I was becoming a little bit more of a teenager watching Doug.
What's Doug?
I don't know what that is.
So Doug, there were two iterations of it.
It was originally a Nickelodeon cartoon.
That's where I remember it as a Nickelodeon.
And then from early 90s.
And then two years later, Disney, I guess, bought the rights and re-released it as a Disney cartoon.
The animation is a little different.
I like the Nickelodeon version better.
Yeah, it's really good.
But it's just this dorky kid just trying to live.
life, man, and everybody's a different color.
People are blue. His best friend Skeeter
down there, he just honks.
He barely even talks.
That's the love of his life right there, Patty mayonnaise.
Wow, that's a nice thing.
Some of his names are insane.
Doug funny is his name.
Doug funny.
And that's the bully over there on the right, Roger Klotz.
And he lives in a trailer park.
So he's a bully, but really he's just dealing
with his own stuff.
Yeah, his dad's probably an alcoholic, drug addict.
I think he is at one point.
Yeah.
Wow.
All right.
Then we go Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Okay. That's Nate's favorite. Is this too edgy?
No. Too edgy.
Teenage Mutant Ninja.
No, no. You looked at her when I said about his trailer.
No, I'm just surprised this is a kid's cartoon that they're dealing with drugs.
We used to get into stuff in these cartoons, man.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the first cartoon, really great.
I had all the toys. I had like a toy like whole sewer system, Master Splinter.
Really great. And I added last minute Inspector Gadget. That was one of my favorites.
I mean, he talked to, he talked to his watch.
He had his little helper penny.
It was really, really good.
And then my top two, Masters of the Universe, He-Man and Masters of the Universe.
Such a hot cartoon when I was a kid.
Masters of the Universe.
Yeah.
You had a joke about it.
Yeah.
Okay.
So what is his main guy?
That's He-Man?
That's Adam.
Okay.
And Adam has a sword, and he will hold it up to the sky.
And he says, by the power of Grey's skull.
And then he becomes He-Man, Master of the Universe.
Interesting.
Well, my, you know, my mom was not watching things like that like I was.
So I was into it.
And it's really great.
And then they made a movie.
The movie doesn't get a lot of credit, but it's Dolf Lundgren is in it as He-Man.
Is it a live-action movie?
Live action.
I think it's really good.
It's got Courtney Cox, one of her first movies.
She's in He-Man, Masters of the Universe.
And then my number one favorite cartoon of all time as a kid, G.I. Joe.
Wow.
That was the best.
G.I. Joe cartoon.
I had a million G.I.O. This is it right here?
Yeah.
Like, that's what it looked like.
I had a million G.I. Joe's as a kid. And I loved G.I. Joe.
Now, have you all gone back and watch any of this stuff as an adult and see how it's aged?
Yeah, it's all terrible.
Yeah.
In what way?
Well, I mean, G.I. Joe is just like, I don't know, it's just not fun to watch.
A Master of the Universe is pretty ridiculous.
Inspector Gadget, I've not watched.
I haven't either. I'm sure some of it's good.
But, I mean, this didn't make my list, but other classic cartoons, like the Flintstones, Scooby-Doo.
Oh, Flintstones, yeah, Scooby-Doo. I used to watch those a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Those are great.
I remember when...
Cartoons used to be really good.
They just are not a lot of good cartoons now.
Well, I wouldn't know.
I mean, the ones for our daughters are, I would say, really good, right?
Nah.
You know, like, pepper pig is not holding up like, like.
But that's for two-year-olds.
Okay.
Well, I guess so.
But I'm just saying, I don't know what the cartoons are out now, but they don't have a Scooby-Doo.
Yeah, it's a different vibe.
But even Scooby, I remember when they added Scrappy Do.
What a Scrappy Do?
That's when they jumped the shark.
It's like a puppy that they were rabbi.
That's when the show about a talking dog jumped the sharks.
Well, Scooby didn't really talk.
He talked.
I mean, Shaggy talked to him.
And maybe Shaggy was just high.
Yeah, but Scrappy's like a full-on, like, it's like,
I, dude, don't come up in here and take control of the show.
I've never even heard of Scrappy do.
Yeah, it was in the later years.
And that's, yeah.
And the Harlem Globetrotter showed up.
That was a fun episode.
Oh, yeah.
The Harlem Globetrotters came to an open mic in Nashville once.
Oh, yeah?
Have you ever heard about that?
No.
Their trainer is an open mic comic, a young, young woman, and they were in town doing
something, and she came and did the mic, and the Harlem Globetrotters showed up.
Wow.
And, you know, you're not profiling people.
When you see, like, nine enormously tall black dudes walk in, you're like, what is happening?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Truly, they're not the Harlem.
You don't want to assume they're the Harlem Globetrotters.
Trotters. You ever thought about playing basketball?
But they are. Don't get into comedy.
You're getting tried basketball. You guys are pretty tall.
And they came and they sat in the back and they were awesome, dude.
They watched the whole open mic. They laughed at everybody.
It was like a great mic.
Oh, yeah.
It was one of the few nights I wasn't at that mic.
They're like the next day, I go, how was the mic last night?
The Harlem Globetrotters were there.
What?
You were like, how was that home watching Doug?
Well, this is interesting because I'm hearing you all.
favorite cartoons. I don't know if this is a function of when I grew up or if it's a reflection of
me. But all of my cartoons that I watched were of real life stuff. These are kids cartoons.
These for kids. You're kids. Yeah, no superhero stuff, nothing supernatural, just all normal.
It could be a TV show. Okay. If they wanted to be. So these are my favorites. Doug, we've already
talked about. Hey Arnold was a big one. This takes place. And what I assume is New York City,
there are theories that it takes place somewhere else, but it's in an urban area.
I'll tell you what, though, if Arnold's real, he'd get made fun of.
Well, he's made fun of relentlessly in this show.
Okay, okay.
He's called Football Head.
Okay, yeah.
That's him right there in the front.
That's his best friend, Gerald.
They would definitely call him football head at my school.
This is Harold right here, the fat kid.
He's a bully, but he's Jewish.
So there's an episode where you go to his bar mitzvah.
And really, you know, he's struggling with his own weight and everything else.
He's got his own issues.
Bad relationship with his parents.
That's Sid. He's the poor kid. Stinky Peterson on the top left.
I mean, just a great mix of people. Helga.
I've seen a little, Hey Arnold.
She's the bully, Helga, but she's actually in love with Arnold, the whole series.
So there's a little tension there.
This show, I used to love, just the freedom of these kids running around the city, no parents anywhere.
Right? They would go take the train at like two in the morning.
You're like, who's letting these kids do this?
Right. But Arnold grew up in a boarding house with all kinds of random people.
in there. It was crazy. It was crazy. And if you watch it, there's like some deep,
there's like some of the episodes are sad and they explore like real stuff. This is a great show.
Where did it air? Nickelodeon. This is like the mid to late 90s.
Yeah. So you guys had professional cartoon channels. Yeah. Essentially. Yeah. That's all they aired.
And we didn't have cable. But I remember the cable guy when he was setting up our TV,
he was like, we'll give you Nickelodeon.
Just Nickelode.
Nickelodeon and ESPN.
Wow.
Because I think he knew my dad, I think he went to the same church as us or something.
So he's like, I'll give you all Nickelodeon ESPN.
So we had basic cable and the Nickelodeon and ESPN.
Wow.
That's all we had.
So I didn't grow up.
We had Cartoon Network was around, but we didn't have it in our house.
Yeah.
So I didn't watch any of those.
Just Nickelodeon.
Okay.
And then the other one, Rocket Power.
Have you ever heard of this?
No.
Rocket Power.
There's a Nickelodeon cartoon.
Well, who is this kid, though?
I know this kid.
Skate kids.
That's Auto Rocket right there.
He's like...
To the right here, that's a kid from another cartoon.
That's Squid, dude.
He's called Squid.
You know what I'm talking about?
I feel like I watched this cartoon.
I feel like this guy had a different name.
Maybe.
It's just about kids, again, running around.
Parents are not really around.
Seems like Rugrats.
Well, yeah, this is after Rugrats.
So maybe this is when the Rugrats are grown up.
The animation looks similar.
There was a show called Rugrats All Grown Up when they were 12, which is so funny to call them all grown up.
This guy seems like a Rug Rat, though.
Just the animation's similar.
Yeah, but that's Twister and that's Rocket Girl and that's Squid.
He's the new kid.
Okay.
Another great show.
Let's pull it up right here.
Fillmore.
Y'all are not going to have heard of this show.
The show was so short-lived.
He used to air Saturday mornings on ABC.
I used to love cop shows.
I told you we watched Law and Order as a kid, as a family.
This was Law and Order, but at a school.
That's Fillmore, the main character.
He was like a thug kid.
He got in trouble for stealing chalk,
and then they're like, you can go to detention
or you can become a cop, essentially.
So it's a parody of cop shows,
but it's hall monitors at a school.
So they just solved crimes.
This girl is the girl
who does, she's
is the scientist.
You ever see the, you ever see
what's the one with Mark?
Yeah, like, you know,
how he has the weird girl that
is always like, yeah, oh, that's NCIS.
Yeah, yeah.
Similar.
Yeah, yeah, they all work on this
hall monitor, police force.
And there's like a captain, that's him in the back,
and he's always drinking coffee.
Oh, yeah.
And they, and the funniest part
about the show to me was
when they find the perp,
they chase them.
They have these chase scenes.
And you're like,
They got to come to school the next day.
Yeah, yeah.
Just let them come to school the next day.
There's no point of chase of these kids.
But that show is fun.
It only lasted two seasons.
The biggest one for me was this show, recess.
Disney's recess.
It aired Saturday mornings on ABC.
Are you the blonde kid then?
I'm a little bit of...
That's me up top.
That's so mean.
If you're listening, he just pointed out the fattest kid in the group.
I'm the kid with the backwards hat, though.
I'm the cool kid.
I'm a little bit of everybody in this group.
TJ's the leader of this group.
He's the cool kid.
And then there's Spinelli.
She's the feisty.
She's into like, I don't know.
She's just kind of mean, but she's fun.
He's the athlete.
Vince is the athlete.
Gus is the dorky new kid.
He's the poet.
The fat guy, Mike.
He's the poet of the group.
And then that's the smart girl.
And they exist on this playground where there's an entire society.
There's a king.
There's a class system.
It was so much fun, dude.
I watched the show all the time as a kid.
recess, highly recommended.
Yeah.
That's fun.
Yeah, I'm glad that you had a couple I had not heard of.
It is funny, though, how the segue, mine are all totally ridiculous.
Yours was a blend of kind of transforming into more, and then yours was just...
Mine are all...
You know, there was like SpongeBob was around, and that's obviously...
It's like sea creatures.
Yeah.
But all the ones that I really gravitated towards were just real, real kids.
Like, that could have been a TV show.
You know, there's nothing crazy in it.
But a lot of fun.
What about adults?
All right.
I looked up, by the way, I'm still on this Wonder Twins.
So they were part of the all-new super friends ours, and they would touch their fist and say the phrase, wonder twin powers activate.
And that's where that, and the rings would touch.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
I don't, these are a few, like, specials, like, number one, Charlie Brown's Christmas.
That's a good one.
Now, a lot of people, I know.
I said I was over fun.
A lot of people on the podcast say I'm Charlie Brown.
I don't feel that way.
But okay, I like Charlie Brown.
I like Charlie Brown and I like that.
I used to watch that a lot growing up.
Charlie Brown's Christmas.
It's very good.
I mean,
it's amazing that came out in the 60s,
and it's about commercialization of Christmas.
And it was the 60s.
Is it really about that?
Yeah,
Charlie Brown's upset because everyone's just into, you know,
his dog enters a contest for best decoration and wins.
Yeah, I mean,
our society has been in decline for a long time.
That's amazing.
That's from the 60s when you think it was whatever.
Do you think Charles Schultz, do you think he made this cartoon for free?
Or did he get paid to do it?
How you try to make a point about it?
Well, what is, so what's Charlie Brown's deal?
Why is he always, everything's bad and has happening to him?
Yeah.
Is it just bad luck or does he bring it on a little bit?
That's a fair question, I guess.
I don't know.
Well, he's got to bring it on a little bit.
You got to know Lucy's going to pull the football.
You've got to be smarter than that.
Okay.
So he's a little bit of a dunce, but just bad luck?
I don't know if he's a dunce or if he's just trusting, right?
Maybe that's it.
Like, he just trusts that Lucy this time is going to hold the football.
Oh, so he's good to a fault in this world that just beats on him.
I think so.
I don't know enough about him to speak on it.
I mean, the Peanuts comic strip went on for decades.
Right.
There's not that many.
I don't think actual.
live animation. There's specials, you know.
But it started and it's primarily just like cartoons in a newspaper.
I think so, yeah.
I think the peanuts went on for a long, long time.
But that's really good.
I mean, there's a scene where Lyingness gets up and talks about the meaning of Christmas and, you know,
and reads or recites a scripture from the Bible.
Oh, interesting.
It's amazing that that's still on primetime TV every year.
Also has the best soundtrack, the best Christmas music ever, this Charlie Brown Christmas.
It's like great jazz.
music.
Yeah.
It's really,
really awesome.
Just a couple more.
Garfield's Halloween special.
It was actually scary.
As a kid,
it was like...
Garfield was great.
I really like Garfield,
too.
Garfield's Halloween,
this was scary?
I mean, yeah,
for a cartoon,
like,
maybe that,
not that shot right there.
You got to realize,
he's not been,
like,
your cartoons were all reality,
right?
Yeah.
So he's not been jaded.
Your parents were making
you watch
Law and Order
SVU. I was just an innocent kid.
He's just a white sheet with two idols.
He goes, ooh.
There were some scary saints, all right.
You were desensitized too early.
I was. I was. I was calloused.
Also Christmas here. How the Gritch stole Christmas.
Frosty the Snowman. Those are all great.
Classic. Those are timeless, too.
These are just all time. These are not necessarily ones you just enjoy it as an adult.
Yeah, they're kind of all time. I thought that's what you said we were supposed to do.
I lost track. I thought we would do.
Some as a kid and then some as an adult.
This is why you let him run the podcast.
That's true.
Stop trying to do stuff yourself.
I'll do a couple as an adult.
Aquitaine Hunker Force.
Oh, that's on my list.
I love that show.
You watch this show?
That's on my list.
I love that show.
I thought nobody would have that on the list.
Boom.
This show stinks.
Really?
Gosh, I love that show.
I've never seen it.
It's so funny.
I'm just looking at it.
It looks like the worst show.
It does look like the worst, but it's really funny.
What is it?
a drink and a thing of fries and a meatball talking to each other?
Meatwad.
You know, I never, yeah, it's meatwad.
Oh, sorry.
Get it right.
Meatwad is.
Shake.
Yeah, and then they got a, shake.
Then they got a neighbor Carl.
Yeah, there's Carl.
I've never got into adult swim.
All those are so weird.
But somebody told me about, there was a period.
They're like, oh, you should watch out quitting hunger for us.
And it was funny.
It is really funny.
Squid billies.
Watch that for a while.
Oh, that's a great one.
I'm going to add that to number.
10. I forgot about it. That way I can have 10. I forgot about it. Okay. I recognize this little
octopus thing. Yeah. Or squid. Squid. Yeah. I actually have that hat. That's hilarious. Somebody
gave me that hat in a show. You ever had that says booty hunter on? Yeah. I have that exact
hat. Wow. Somebody gave that to me at a show. Yeah. Wear that on the podcast sometimes. Yeah.
I think that's shot in Atlanta and I think a lot of Atlanta comics have done some voicing on it.
Oh, that's fun. Not shot, I guess, but.
Yeah.
Quiet on set.
It used to be...
Mr. Squid, come on out.
I think Billy Joe Shaver's done some stuff on it, I think, and country singer that I like.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
You want me to hit my 10?
Sure.
I'm going to go Squid.
I didn't do 10, but that's enough.
I'm going to Squid Billy's first, but obviously I just wrote that down.
I'm going South Park number nine.
South Park gets a little too much for me, but I would be lying if I had not, did not say I had not enjoyed a ton of South Park episodes.
Because when he came out, you were the perfect age.
I mean, I was in high school when it came out.
I mean, I've laughed at South Park a lot.
There's a show that I just recently started, but it's one of my all-time favorites already because it's so good.
And I'm into anything Mike Judge does.
And this is Tales from the Tour Bus, which is he just animates, basically interviews.
The first season is all country music.
And the very first episode is Johnny Paycheck.
And it's so great.
It's so good.
The next Beavis and Butthead. Really great. I wasn't able to watch it as a kid, but I've gone back and watched a lot as an adult. Very funny. Bob's Burgers, great cartoon. Futurama. Like that one a lot. That's the Simpsons creator. Love that one. Number four is more of a movie, but it's called Planet Hulk. And it is basically, it's basically Ragnarok, but in this, Hulk wins. It's not.
That's a regular show?
I mean, a regular cartoon?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean...
Never heard of this.
Yeah.
Thor does not win in this.
The whole problem with the Marvel universe is that they used Hulk is kind of like this punching bag to show how strong the other Avengers were.
And I didn't read a ton of comic books, but from what I understand, Hulk, people don't beat up on Hulk like that.
I'm so surprised.
I'm always surprised you're so into Super Bowl.
superhero stuff because it feels so against everything else.
Well, it's like, it's from your childhood.
You know, you get into all these things of this child.
Yeah, and then when you're...
Like Harry Potter.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
You know, exactly.
Except, you know.
Well, I mean, it is exactly like it.
Yeah.
But why is it okay?
Not okay for him like Harry Potter now, but...
It is okay for him to like it.
It's witchcraft, but it is okay for him to like it, you know.
And then number three, I put Aquatine Hunger Force.
laughed at that a lot as an adult.
Number two, family guy.
Family guy, so great.
And number one, adult cartoon of all time, King of the Hell.
King of the Hell, unbelievable.
A lot of people call you...
Dale Gribble.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And other than being super weak, I agree with him.
Dale Gribble's a super weak man.
But other than that, I agree with it.
He is a weak guy, right?
He is.
I mean, his wife is having a kid with a...
Yeah.
What's his name?
What is his name?
Johnny.
John Redwood, I think.
Is it Redwood?
I don't know.
Red man.
It's something on the nose.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't remember.
Great cartoon.
But I love that cartoon, though.
What is the guy?
But what is it about a cartoon?
Any of these, if they were a live action, I feel like the charm of it will be gone.
Yeah.
To some degree.
Yeah.
And I think Mike Judge animation is really good.
because it's not perfect animation, but it's just in the way that it's like, animation can be too good now to where I think that a little bit of it letting you know.
Because there's another one like, it's called like six ounce mouse or something like that.
It's like some of the worst animation ever, but it was pretty good.
Big loudmouthed that one?
Now it's like something mouse.
It's like a certain ounce mouse.
Oh, yeah.
And it's like, it's pretty good.
I mean, it's just the dialogue that goes back and forth.
And, yeah, I mean, King of the Hill is number one cartoon of all time.
Now, you know, hopefully, I mean, I've been pitching a cartoon.
I sold a cartoon to Hulu one time that never got made.
And then I sold one to another company and they never got made.
But I'm working on some stuff.
Can you tell us anything about them?
Let me see if I can find it.
I don't, well, I don't even know anything about it yet.
but that's probably why you're pitched it and get picked up.
Yeah, that's true.
I don't know anything about this.
I got those cartoon idea.
No, the old one, if I could find a picture of, I would share it.
Yeah, air drop it to me.
Of the old.
So I did not watch, still don't, most of these adult cartoons.
Simpson started when I was in high school.
That's how it's been around.
And I really have rarely watched it.
But I know there's so many cultural references that come from the Simpsons.
Yesterday, we're headed at the airport in Albuquerque.
We drive by, our Uber driver has given us a tour of the city, basically.
We didn't ask him to, but he just volunteered to tell us, you know, about a tour of the city.
Now, I'm sorry, what?
I'm sorry.
He just pulled that up.
Yeah, but he's in the little story.
So I'll wrap this up.
I'll tell you're bored.
It is.
All right.
Sorry.
We drive by.
I've been searching for it the whole time you've been telling the story, so I was not.
You know that we weren't just sitting quietly waiting for you to pull out.
I know, but I missed all the story.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yesterday, I'm in Albuquerque.
We're headed the airport.
Our Uber driver voluntarily starts giving us a tour of the city.
Which I'm interesting because breaking bad.
There's a lot of stuff there.
We drive by their minor league baseball stadium.
Isotopes.
Isotopes.
Right.
That came from the Simpsons.
Did you know that?
No, I didn't know that at all.
Apparently there's an episode I have it here's somewhere because I remember where they're moving the team from Springfield and the Simpsons and they're the Springfield isotopes from the Simpsons, season two called Dance and Homer in which the main character, Homer Simpson, temporarily becomes his local team's mascot.
In the episode, Homer attempts to thwart the team's plan to move to Albuquerque.
by going on a hunger strike.
Wow.
And they did a fan vote and they called themselves that.
I just assumed it was something to do with nuclear energy or something.
I think that helps.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it's a good fit for it.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Now, the Simps, I'm sorry, we'll get to that.
Maybe one more question, though.
The Simpsons is, in your mind, Homer, the main character?
Well, when I was a kid, Mark Simpson was the main.
Because it was like, I mean, that's what I would say.
I want to watch Mark Simpson.
I wouldn't say The Simpsons.
I mean, Bart Simpson was the main character.
Somewhere it shifted, though.
I had a toy Bart Simpson.
Do you think it shifted from your perspective or in the show, the way the show told the story?
Well, who's your perspective?
I never really watched the Simpsons.
I was not allowed to watch it as a kid and I never really picked it up as an adult.
I just think that as we grew with the show, I think they shifted it to Homer, because now we're adults.
Maybe so.
But who would you envision?
Because I didn't watch The Simpsons.
When I think of the show, I think of Homer.
I think with the donut.
That's what I think of.
Yeah. I feel like they shifted it.
Yeah.
All right. Let's look at this.
Well, it was a working title.
We weren't like this is the name.
This was just kind of a working title.
But yeah, this was our animation.
Obviously, I'm the little kid there with a hat that says dusty on it.
If you're listening, it's outside a trailer.
Yeah, and then there's like this.
My mom has got her arm on me.
And then the two other girls are my sisters.
And then that's my brother-in-law in the lawn chair and then their daughter.
Right.
So that was.
That's amazing.
Yeah. That is amazing. There's a possum on the roof, I believe. Yeah, because, you know, I got a joke.
Apossom's got a toothbrush. You know, I got a joke about a possum. Was that going to be a character in the show? The possum was like your pet.
Not my pet, but it was going to be kind of a thing that would pop up a lot. Just always around. Yeah. That's so cool, man.
It looks like some California redwoods back there. Well, that is what I told him. I said, well, you're, I said, this is great, but I was like, your trees are off. But I was like, your trees are off, but everything else looks good. I said, this is great, but I was like, your trees are off, but everything else looks good.
even the concrete steps that cement block steps.
Now, what is this girl doing?
She has more of a 9 to 5 job?
Yeah, because there was like, you know, we had a, you know, the kind of two sisters,
you know, one being more redneck than the other kind of thing.
Okay.
Oh, that's fun.
And then that's my sister like trying to get out of the.
Wow.
And that's your other sister and her baby?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's so cool, man.
And where does this stand?
Is this, could this happen?
Well, I don't know.
Something like this could happen.
But this was the one I sold to Hulu in 2020.
And now what happened in 2020?
Well, I think what happened was King of the Hill was announced that they were coming back.
Apparently, King of the Hill is coming back, but it takes a long time.
Yeah.
The animation takes forever.
Yeah.
So that was announced that it was coming back, and I think it killed my show.
Greg Garcia, like I said, was on the road with us this weekend.
He worked on a couple of seasons.
A family guy is a writer.
Oh, that's cool.
He said, it's so fun just to say, we're in Saudi Arabia.
And you can just write a scene.
You just do whatever.
Yeah, do whatever.
You're doing a live action show.
Yeah.
And the guy writing this with me was a writer from Family Guy.
And we had, I thought we wrote a really great script.
It was really funny.
Yeah.
We just had tons of free time during 2020.
I'm just zooming with this guy and we're writing it.
And you're right.
You just do whatever you want with animation.
You write whatever you want.
That's crazy because there's stuff you probably don't even think of
if you're doing a live action show.
Obviously, we can't go to the Sahara Desert or the, you know, the Eiffel Tower or whatever.
That's so cool.
Right.
Yeah.
So we should go through that list real fast and see anything we missed.
Yeah, let's just go through.
We got a few minutes left here.
This is the top 50 cartoon characters.
Oh, all right.
Is that the list you sent me?
Yeah, that's fine.
Okay.
Top 50 cartoon characters.
Let's just go down to the top 10.
Sure.
Yeah, I've already skipped past.
I need a poo.
Great.
Stephen Universe.
I never even heard of this.
Not from out.
Created 2013.
A little past my prime.
Zucco from Avatar, the last Airbender, never watched that.
I didn't either.
Here we go.
The teenage mutant Ninja Turtles.
They lumped all four of them in.
Yeah, see, that was my show right there.
I mean, that show, I had all those toys.
I mean, that show was great.
That's by far Nate's favorite.
Scooby-Doo and Shaggy.
Yeah.
Never knew his last name.
Me either.
Shaggy Rogers?
That doesn't even seem to sound real.
Great characters.
Boyce by Casey Case.
Also, have you ever had the Scooby snacks, the actual snacks?
Pretty good.
It's pretty good.
They're like gummies.
Yeah.
Yeah, it tastes good.
Mickey Mouse.
No doubt.
I'm not a big fan, but no doubt that's one of the greatest characters.
I think he's the most popular, probably worldwide.
Yeah.
When you said?
Oh, sure.
Yeah.
The ears are just the ears alone.
Spongebob.
SpongeBob.
SpongeBob Square Pants is up there.
Yeah.
Tom and Jerry.
Wow, that's surprising there in the top four.
Charlie Brown and Snoopy.
Yeah.
Three, and then number two, Homer Simpson, not surprising.
Longest running, I think the longest running TV show of all time, right?
I think so.
Yeah.
And then number one, Bugs Bunny.
I mean, that's a solid list, paste magazine.
Go back here, just up a little bit.
No, no, no, back down to Homer.
Right here, right here.
It says, oh.
The first two seasons of the Simpsons were focused on BART,
but as it became Homer-centric, the show became something truly special.
That's interesting.
So it did shift.
Yeah.
That's fun.
I think the first popular cartoon I read was Mickey Mouse.
It was called Steamboat Willie.
And there's a scene in...
I think I've seen that.
There's a scene in Saving Private Ryan where they can't capture a Nazi soldier.
And they're about to execute him.
And he's trying to show them, guys, I'm Americanized now.
I love America.
And I think one of the references he tries to say a Stingboat Willie.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And he starts singing the National Anthem and he goes,
Oh, say, can you see?
Yeah.
Oh, say can you see?
Oh, sake.
It's actually really heartbreaking scene.
Yeah, Betty Boop.
I think he references Betty Boop, another cartoon.
And that guy comes back and kills a bunch of Americans at the end after they let them out.
Yeah.
Spoiler alert.
War is hell, boys.
There's Flintstones was the first primetime cartoon.
And there's a commercial, I think I said to you, a cigarette ad where they use the Fred Flintstone and Barney to promote cigarettes.
Oh, yeah.
How about that?
The good old days, huh?
That's what I'm saying.
very funny. They're out hanging out. Their wives are
working. They're like, this is tough, man. Let's go in the
back and get away from this.
As Barney's saying, let's get out of here. And they go in the back and
wait, they're just trying to get away from their wives working.
Yeah, it's a very funny. Even today, it would be very funny.
They're like, this is tough to watch. Let's go hang out.
And then he's like, you know, I could really relax
with some cigarettes.
Some Winston.
Some Winston's, dude. Winston 100s.
Well, you know, they work really hard
those guys.
Fred and Varney work
at a rock factory.
Oh,
okay,
they're not just like
lazy bombs.
Yeah,
I mean,
they work really hard.
Yeah,
you're right.
That's how it starts
with them sliding down
the back of the dinosaur.
Here's a couple of phrases.
This is so funny.
I know.
I'm trying to imagine
like a SpongeBob
commercial where they're doing this.
You work in a rock factory.
You deserve a cigarette.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, it's a Saturday,
right?
Calabanga.
You know what that's front?
My old boss used to smoke Winston's.
Calabunga is a phrase.
Ninja Turtles.
Yeah.
Ninja Turtles.
When you said, I remember the episode where you said,
I think, therefore I am is the most popular phrase.
Cogito Ergosome.
Whatever.
And Nate said Calabunga.
Oh, that makes sense.
He's a big Teenage Mutiny Ninja Turtles.
Yeah.
Wow.
What's up, Doc?
Big one.
Big one.
Teenage mutant Ninja Turtles.
Heroes and a half shell.
Turtle power.
They're the world's most fearsome fighting teenage mutant.
Turtle power, something like that.
What's the most popular theme song for a cartoon?
Probably the SpongeBob one for my generation.
Chip and Dales is pretty popular.
Are you ready, kids?
Aye, I, I, Captain.
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
It's for sure.
But Chip and Dales was a big one.
Chichichita Jopin Dales.
Mine's the Jetsons.
That's pretty popular.
George, Chetton.
Or Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo theme.
What is the Scooby-Doo thing?
Scooby-Scooby-Doo.
Oh, man.
Yeah, that's a big one.
That's a big one for sure.
G.I. Joe, American Heroes.
Well, you know what probably transcended all that was the...
Dun-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-batman.
Yeah, yeah. I've never even seen that cartoon.
That was a real show that was doing that.
But I've never seen that cartoon, but I know the thing.
But that cartoon...
That wasn't a cartoon?
That wasn't the theme of the cartoon.
That was the theme of the real show.
Oh, I'm sorry.
The cartoon was...
Pretty dark.
But I think the opening where they do that, it's animated, isn't it?
Come, pow, maybe.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
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Today we're talking about school.
It's back to school this week here in at least Nashville.
And I think pretty much everywhere in the country, people go back to school in August.
I think when I was in school, we would start after Labor.
day. That was kind of the...
In September.
Yeah. Like maybe...
I think that's how it was for me, too.
It could have been like the Tuesday, like literally the day after Labor Day.
I don't remember.
But Laura was telling us about how now they're here considered year-round schools.
It's not that different, but they do start earlier because they have fall break and a spring break.
We never had a fall break.
We never had a fall break.
Well, there's a lot of data to suggest that a bed.
a model would be to eliminate summer vacation altogether and just have year-round school.
I think I'd prefer that.
And you just have, and you'd have another like fall break, another like week break somewhere in there.
But taking two months off, some, you know, you don't retain a lot of what you learn.
There's a lot of data that says all the kids will be better off.
What do you think about that?
I don't know.
I think there's so much useless stuff that goes on in school anyway.
I just think about the stuff.
You think the lack of retention is good.
Yeah.
I mean,
it's just like,
we do need to get a little.
Forget some of this.
Yeah.
Well, it's like,
I think we should like be learning really practical things like,
so that when we get out of school,
we know how to do stuff.
Like people don't know how to pay bills.
They don't know how to balance checkbooks.
They don't know how to do their taxes.
They don't.
I think we should be learning all this stuff.
I think you should know how to cook basic food for yourself.
I mean,
and then we come out very productive humans.
instead of being like, we just come out ready to go to college.
We're like, let's get in debt.
Now, there are some classes in high school that do some of that.
But they're class, they're electives that you can do.
They are.
I think we should folk like, you know, like calculus was a class that you could take.
And it's like, you know, it's like if you want to get into math later on, like get into it in college.
Oh, I thought you made like once you retire, then take up a hobby.
Yeah, it's like, I don't need calculus in high school.
Like, let's go algebra.
Let's do algebra one.
But here's, do you think the kid that wants to take calculus is also the kid that needs to take a class on how to button his shirt?
Well, button shirt is a, I mean, that's a stretch.
If he doesn't know how to button his shirt, then the answer is yes.
But I don't, I think these are classes that people need to be taken where they learn.
Like, we took a sewing class.
It was an elective.
We took something, but, you know, I know how to sew.
Sewing as an elective?
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
It was middle school.
So it was kind of a required thing.
Really?
So I know how to sell with a needle and thread.
You know, I learned to use a sewing machine.
I haven't done that in a long time, so I don't know if I could do it.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
And I think, you know, auto.
Can you do calculus?
Not at, I don't even know what calculus is, to be honest with it.
Yeah.
I barely.
Let's go over like, where we went, like, mine's pretty simple.
I was first through eighth grade at the same school.
It was the smallest school in the county.
First through eight?
Yeah, I didn't go to kindergarten.
Okay.
First through eighth grade, the same school.
And then I went from the smallest school in the county to the biggest school in the county in high school.
And so I was only at two schools before college.
When you got to the big school, like, because this happened to my mom too.
Was that a real adjustment?
Oh, yeah.
But it was great because I was with the same kids for eight years.
And there's just a few of us.
Yeah.
And then you get to high school and you're a freshman.
you see the senior girls,
you're like,
they're like,
they're women.
Yeah.
Oh,
yeah.
Yeah.
And they seem so mature and,
and just put together.
And yeah,
it was a huge adjustment.
It was so nice,
though,
to be around other kids
that you hadn't been around
all the time,
though.
Right.
And doing stuff.
There's a,
I was hot.
I mean,
there's a,
whoa.
I mean,
that's probably.
That's a good look,
though.
I'm going to be honest.
It is a good look.
You got kind of the dusty sleigh glasses.
Yeah.
That's why you think it's a good luck.
Okay.
I think it's a good look.
I mean, you got a...
What is that?
Yeah, I mean, there's...
Yeah, I like it.
I'm into it.
Is that a LaCost?
Sure.
It could be.
It could be.
That's a good, it's a good call on that.
I was third grade, maybe.
I mean, your hair looks good.
You got a good head of hair, man.
Yeah, yeah.
I've had a haircut like that.
I had a haircut like that most of my life.
Is that kind of Alabama bangs?
I would say, like Alabama swoop.
Bamma swoop.
Yeah, the Alabama swoop.
Okay.
So that's pretty much, I mean,
and that's a good look.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Were there like, was there ever talk?
There were like Christian schools or private schools that you would have maybe gone to or was it?
There is one in Lebanon that, I mean, it's still there.
But I don't ever remember when you talk about it.
I just don't think we could afford it.
Yeah.
So.
And I mean, you went to private Christian school.
I see advantages and disadvantages.
I mean, I mean, my daughter now, you know, I'll be considering for her in a few years,
where to send her to school.
And there are some advantages to public school, but.
What are the advantages?
I feel like you're around a more diverse group of people.
I may be wrong because I wasn't in private school, but I feel like you're diverse in what way?
Well, in race and economics and just different, you know, just not everyone's maybe as similar as you.
I may be wrong, but that's how I feel.
Phil.
There's probably some truth to that.
I think it depends a lot on the school.
Like I got stabbed in eighth grade.
There you go.
That's the kind of diversity.
I got punched in the bathroom, busted my eye.
And luckily, you could do your own stitches after you got stabbed.
That's true.
Just taking a sewing class.
Yes, because I learned things.
I had to go to a nurse.
They had to do it.
My locker got broken into a lot.
I lost a lot of money.
You know what I mean?
So, I mean.
How many schools did you go to growing up?
Well, I was just talking about this the other day.
It was weird for me because some schools were
being built. In Opelag I went to a school called Carver from kindergarten and first grade. And then
the new school was being built. So I went to another school called Brown while that one was being
finished. And then I went, I was the first class at Southview primary. So I did second grade there.
And then I did third grade at a school called Martin, third, fourth, and fifth, which would later
be called Northside. And then I went to middle school, Opelika Middle School for
6th, 7th, 8th, and then high school, OHS, 9th, 11th, 11th, 10th, 12th.
Man, that's a lot. Yeah. Jumped around a lot. You look, a military family. That's what I was
about to say. All in the same town. So all these primary and elementary schools, we all came
together in middle school. So it was similar to that. So you had friends that made all these
jumps with you. Yes. Okay. So you had friends that you went from kindergarten all the way
through high school.
Absolutely.
Matter of fact,
the girl who told me
that her boyfriend peed on her peaco,
we were in kindergarten
together, went all the way
through school together.
Wow.
Yeah.
Such a huge chunk of your life
in the same room
with another person.
Yeah.
Now,
she wasn't in every class
with me,
but we made the journey.
Yeah.
I mean,
you agree you were five
when you started.
Yeah.
Her last name was,
her name was Lindsay Savage.
So Savage and Slai,
we were always like,
you know,
when your last names are close,
You're always like kind of like in the same home room together and stuff like that.
A lot of the S's.
Yeah.
You were taking an elective in junior high?
Yeah, I don't know if they were called electives, but they were like just, you know, you'd be, you'd have all your regular classes and then you had.
It's elective in that like you decided whether you went to school that day or not.
That is true.
That is true.
Yeah.
I got it home back.
I did chorus, you know, stuff like that.
I did a little chorus thing.
I just realized we were singing, God bless the USA.
by Lee Greenwood in middle school.
Oh, no, maybe elementary school.
And I looked at the dates.
And that song was brand new at that time.
Wow.
So, because I was like, man, this song must be way older,
but it was like brand new.
I thought it came out after 9-11.
At a resurgence.
Had a bit of a research.
Yes, it did.
I remember hearing it all over after that.
Like, I met Lee Greenwood a couple of times,
and it's like, you don't hear other Lee Greenwood songs.
You don't need another song.
Yeah.
You've got the song.
Yes.
But I remember when that song came out, and I knew who Lee Greenwood was because he had stuff out.
He has a few albums, but it's like, I mean, when that song, when you got that song.
Yeah.
Career changes.
Yeah.
Now, we're all 10 years, well, you and I are 20 years apart, but we're 10 years different.
So I graduated high school in 1990.
Did you graduate in 2000?
2000, 2010.
All right.
Yeah.
Got to hear about that.
I think the class of the new millennium here, me.
Oh.
You know?
Yeah.
What does that mean?
Well, first graduating class of 2000, you know, the year.
I think it'd be 2001 would be.
Well, that was the argument that 2001 people are made.
But we were the first, we were the first class to not use 19, you know.
Uh-huh.
Oh, yeah.
All the 2001 kids made that argument.
Well, we were the first because you don't start with zero.
You start with one.
Yeah.
And I get it, but.
Those are the nerds.
Yeah, exactly.
You know what we mean.
Exactly.
I think I, my first grade year, I think was 1917.
78, 79.
That's a good year.
It was a good year.
There's a lot going on.
Yeah, there was a lot of happening back then, but, so, oh, look here.
And here we go.
This is, uh, yeah, St.
Beade gray basketball team.
Look how happy you are.
I'm pretty excited, man.
I'm excited to be playing hoops.
And a few pointetas in your back there.
Yeah, in front of a weird kind of mural of the Virgin Mary.
How many skills did you go to, Aaron?
I went to the same.
I went to Catholic school my entire life.
Yeah.
Kindergarten through college, which is pretty crazy.
But I went to St. B, K through 6, and then it was a feeder school for Montgomery Catholic middle school.
And then that fed right into Catholic high school.
And then I moved in the middle of high school to Nashville.
Was that hard?
It was pretty hard.
I've been going like, you're talking about.
I've been going to school with the same kids kindergarten through 10th grade.
Yeah.
And those are all the people in my life
And then we all moved.
Were you cool at the new school?
Did you fit right in or was it hard?
Obviously it was hard.
We just asked you that question.
You said yes, it's hard.
But I mean, in class.
In class was I cool?
I don't know if I could be cool in class.
I wasn't a class clown.
I wasn't doing that.
You didn't make a lot of jokes?
I think I was probably thinking funny stuff.
I made a lot of jokes.
You made a lot of jokes?
Oh, yeah.
Did you make a lot of jokes?
Well, I wasn't the class clown.
I would say stuff on.
or my breast and my friends to make them laugh.
But most comedians aren't the class clown.
I had no concept for getting an education.
I was like, I'm just here because they're making me come.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I mean.
Did you ever have first day of school nerves or excitement or generousness?
I mean, yeah, there's always some nerves.
Also, always like, I don't want to go back to school.
I'm enjoying the summer break.
Oh, look at this.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
This is the St.
B.
Gold team.
This is how I used to pose in every picture right here.
Is it because football players would never smile?
That's a good look for you.
Thanks, dude.
Just a frown.
Almost a little bit of a flat top going on here.
You're like,
you almost had like a military cut that you let grow out a little bit.
It's like the same hair I have right now.
Yeah.
You know,
I've always had that weird widows.
But it feels a little more,
a little more flat topish in this picture.
I think it's because my,
just my mom was cutting my hair.
Yeah.
You know,
because they didn't put a whole lot of thought into the shape of it or anything.
What about that guy next to you?
Are you still in contact with that guy?
That's Wallace Harvey.
Yeah, I know Wallace really well, actually.
So which...
It's a tough picture of him.
Which kid did not start?
There's six of you there.
I don't...
Who wrote the bitch?
I don't know.
Not the girl.
I don't know.
That's an interesting question.
I don't remember a whole lot about this, too.
I like that you got to keep the ball, though.
Mm-hmm.
Got it between my feet.
Yeah, you're a real star.
Were you guys good?
I don't know.
This does not look like a good basketball.
Your friend who's having the rough picture there, he's the best player.
He looks like the best player on the team.
What about this team?
This is the team for the next year.
All right.
Well, that's a lot different.
You guys have grown.
Yeah, you look like you've aged a lot in one year here.
I remember all these kids, man.
And what happened to the girl?
The girl got kicked off.
Yeah, yeah, we're like, we're trying to win some games.
You get out of here.
How about that?
Yeah.
And your other buddy, Walter or whatever, he's off the team too.
Wallace.
Wallace, yeah.
Well, he was a grade above me.
So I think he's in a different league now that I moved up a year.
So these are fun to look at.
I hadn't looked at these pictures in a long time.
But no, we were not a basketball school.
Who's on the wall back there?
That's Mary.
Okay.
She's Mother of Jesus.
And in the Catholic Church, they like her a lot.
Gotcha.
They do like her a lot.
Mm-hmm.
What?
They love her.
Yeah, yeah.
They talk about her.
You know, I'm like, that's not even really a mean character and they really get into it.
Well, she's a supporting actress.
Yeah.
Like probably, yeah, Oscar.
Oscar nom.
I mean, she plays a big role.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Or she's probably lead actress.
If the Bible were a movie, she'd be nominated lead actress, I think.
I'm watching.
Ruth.
Ruth.
They wrote a whole book after Ruth.
They were trying to be nice.
They got the woman in here.
You got a bunch of old men names.
Let's go Ruth a bone.
I'm watching.
Who talks about Ruth?
I talk about her a lot.
Actually, really?
Well, my wife.
Tell me one thing.
Oh, that's your wife's name.
Okay.
Was she named after the book of Ruth?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
I'll stop talking about it.
No, I mean, to your point.
Mm-hmm.
So her brothers are John and Stephen.
There's a million male biblical names.
He's not Stephen in the Bible.
Yeah, he's the first Christian martyr.
Oh, okay.
And then for girls, you're like, Mary.
Yeah, a lot of Mary.
And, okay, I guess we'll go with Ruth.
Yeah.
If you told me to do that, Esther.
Mary Magdal, that's still married.
So I'm watching, you guys know this show, The Chosen?
I've heard of it.
I've heard of it.
Yeah, I've heard you and Nate talk about it on the podcast.
I've just started it.
So I didn't know anything about it.
He'd mentioned it on Rogan, I think.
Oh, that's where he talked about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just started it.
And I had a hard time getting into it because they create.
Because you know how it ends.
Well, they create backstories for these biblical characters that aren't in the Bible.
Artistic license.
Yeah.
So I had a hard time, you know.
I won't watch it.
Because of that?
Just because I don't like any of that stuff.
when they create, you know, because they create what Jesus looks like.
We're not supposed to do that.
Would you watch a movie in the first person from Jesus' perspective?
You never see him.
Oh, maybe, maybe.
That's interesting.
Like a body cam.
That's interesting.
Like if Jesus had body cam footage.
We're coming in.
Body camp footage of the crucifixion would be tough.
So you didn't say the passion of the Christ?
No.
Yeah, for the same reason.
Well, I didn't see that one because they talk about, you know, the whole scene of what happens to Jesus.
And I'm like, I don't want to see that.
Yeah.
It seems too brutal to me.
I don't want to watch it.
But you'll read about it.
Yeah.
But God forbid somebody put it on film.
Well, they're allowed to do it.
I just don't want to see it.
Like UFC, for instance, right?
Like, I'm glad it exists.
People love it.
But I don't want to watch people get beat up like that.
I can't handle it.
Yeah.
That's fair.
Like even fictional stuff, for the most part, it's okay.
Actually, I like Quentin Tarantino the most because most of his movies, it seems so wild.
And it's so over the top.
That it seems fictional because it's like, reservoir dogs I can't handle.
But the others are so over the top that it's like, that it's just silly.
Yeah.
But like saving Private Ryan, like war movies.
Yeah, too realistic, too.
It's very painful.
I hate it.
Uh-huh.
Well, anyway, the Chosen, I had some of the same issues because they're creating these stories of these people that, you know, they take an artistic license.
But now we're getting into the parts that are in the Bible.
And so I'm starting to get on board with it.
All right.
Pretty good.
Well, I hear nothing but good things.
People love it.
People are always telling me to watch.
And I know all the stories in the Bible.
I've read them so many times.
It's nice now to even do a pretend thinking about what they look like or putting some.
some personality to the characters.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, sure.
Now, to your point, Jesus does some stuff, like, the humanizes him so much.
I'm like, I don't know.
Would Jesus really hit his thumb hammering or a rival?
Probably not.
Oh, yeah, he would.
He probably would, but it's just, it's hard to think of him that way.
I don't think Jesus misses.
He hits his thumb if he wants to.
I don't know.
That's fair.
So there's some of that that's, that's already going to, I don't even know how we got off
to that.
Oh, yeah, I asked you about the pitcher on the wall.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That spiral.
But Mary Magdalene is a big role in the show.
That's nice.
So, anyway.
So what about going to school for the first time?
Would you guys, like, you had like a whole going to the, where would you go shop?
Yeah, that's what I was about to ask.
Oh, was it?
Yeah.
Where would you go shop for your, for your new clothes?
Like, what'd you like to get?
Well.
My older brother's dresser.
Okay.
That's where I got all my clothes from.
What kind of stuff would he have?
Well, we had school.
uniforms. Oh, okay. I always had school uniforms. That makes it easy. I actually like that.
Well, now it's all in Alabama, it's all the public schools have uniforms. Really?
You do that? Most of them. At least in Montgomery County. I like a school uniform thing because
I'm surprised. Well, I like to get wild with it. But yeah, when you're, when you don't have a lot of money,
like you end up feeling self-conscious about your clothes that you're wearing a school. That's a big part of
the reasoning is that it just alienates kids from each other. And,
causes all kinds of problems.
Yeah, it's like, Tommy Hillfigure was the thing when I was growing up, right?
And it's like, I was never going to get Tommy Hill figure, right?
And it's like, so you're going to be wearing Timmy Hill figure.
Yeah, with some off-friend.
But I'd be wearing like duckheads sometimes or bugle boy or, you know, I really pleaded to not get clothes at Walmart.
That was my thing.
I was like, anything, we'll go to Sears.
We got to Kaymar.
We got to stay away from those.
but, you know, and so it was hard.
So I ended up getting more creative with what I would wear, you know.
And so I think it, you know, created some creativity, but.
But it would have been nice to just wake up and put the same thing on.
Absolutely.
Every day.
And knowing that your friends are all going to be wearing the same thing.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it annoyed me.
We'd have dress down days at school, you know.
Usually it was like a fundraiser.
Like you bring $2 in and you get to dress down.
So the kids that got no money, still wearing the uniform.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
We still found ways to alienate the kids.
But looking back, it's like I didn't mind the uniforms at all.
They're probably a good thing.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah, I can see that.
I don't think in elementary school I was even thinking about like just whatever my mom bought.
That's probably what I wore.
But by high school, Lebanon, the options were pretty limited.
And we had one clothing store that opened goodies.
I remember good.
And to us, that was high fashion.
So you'd buy a nice shirt from there and then go to school the next week or the first day of school and there'd be three different guys wearing the same shirt.
Oh, yeah.
That's the problem.
Yeah, and you get some new clothes and it's like, well, there's still five days in a week.
Yeah.
So you're like, you're trying to rotate them out.
Well, I told a story on here before you joined us, Dusty, that my first day of my senior year in high school, I wore a new kids on the block shirt to school because somehow I'd, I'd,
missed it. That's not cool.
Was it a fresh one?
I'd just been to their concert.
Oh, no.
So this is fresh as you can get.
Almost like a faded one, you could get away of being like, this is my sisters.
I'm wearing it ironically.
Aaron said that.
I think before.
I said, once you realize everybody's making fun of it, just go, yeah, isn't it hilarious
that I'm wearing this?
Yeah, that's all it would take it.
That's how cool I am.
I should have done that, but I did not.
Yeah, I had a couple.
I had a Toby Keith shirt.
I remember wearing.
I think I wore it like one time.
Didn't feel.
Nobody was making fun of Toby Keith, but it just felt weird.
What was the shirt?
It was big dog or something, dog.
Oh, yeah, there was a big dog.
There was a, there was some other stuff.
But there was some like big dog.
Like if you can't hang with a big dog, stay on the porch.
Yeah, it was stuff like that.
I remember those shirts.
Those were big dress down days.
People came out with the big dog shirts on.
That was after my time.
I remember, you want to know something weird?
Okay.
Well, that's why it's like any of those shirts I could think to bring up
are all inappropriate.
Because you go to like the,
you go down to Panama City and go to one of those beach stores and they had all the,
I had a lot of shirts like that.
I would get in trouble all the time about shirts.
They're all like Spencer's type stuff.
Yeah, like, like, you know, not an airbrush,
but like, you know, I can't even describe some of the things that I had.
I shouldn't have been wearing.
Something crass.
Yeah.
Yes, but nobody was,
nobody was monitoring what I was wearing.
By the time I got to high school,
I just was, you know,
I was getting myself dressed and heading out.
Even in earlier school, my mom worked third shift.
Most of the time, I'd catch the bus before she even got home.
So nobody knew what I was wearing.
Did you guys ride the bus to school?
I never did, no.
Because your parents or your dad was driving.
Yeah, my parents worked at the school or I had older siblings.
Yeah.
That would drive me.
But in Alabama, I don't think we had the option to take a bus for a private Catholic.
Small private Catholic school.
They don't have busing, you know.
I rode the bus.
Usually about half and half.
I'd ride the bus to school.
My mom would pick me up or the other way around.
She'd take me to school.
I'd ride at home.
How do you coordinate stuff like that back then?
No cell phone.
I guess you just, you know, they would give you just the, you know, my mom would just be like, I'm going to pick you up.
Mm-hmm.
You know, or I guess you might call the school and say, hey, let Dusty know, I'll be picking him up today or let Dusty know to ride the bus.
Okay.
But it's a lot of tell this to this person.
Oh, yeah.
It's a lot of get this message to.
I think it was mostly just they tell you that morning and that's the plan.
But do you remember there being a lot of like problems caused by this lack of communication
or were you even thinking about it at all?
I don't think there was ever problems for me.
I mean, maybe one or two.
I got banned for the bus for a little while one time for throwing pencils.
But that didn't have anything to do with no cell phones.
No, that was only like a week too.
I got to come back.
That's nice.
I knew I wasn't.
I wasn't malicious.
I think school bus drivers have one of the most stressful jobs out there.
Dealing all those kids and driving this huge gigantic vehicle.
Yeah, and the kids already wearing seat belts.
No, and they're just going crazy?
No seat belts at all.
I threw up on the school bus one time.
And there's that.
It was three to a seat.
And I was middle and threw up and it hit the seat in front of us.
It went all over the other kids.
I remember the kid digging, throw up out of the crease of his bag with a peck.
And so being like, you're going to buy me a new bag.
And I'm like, well, I'm about to get off at a trailer park here.
So you just hold your breath there, buddy.
You set that laptop up.
Yeah.
What did you throw up from?
Just like general being a kid?
Yeah.
I mean, food was never good.
And who knows?
I mean, the food at the school was always crap.
I mean, it was.
Yeah, I was going to ask you, do you take your lunch or did you do cafeteria?
I would do about half and half.
I'd take my lunch sometimes.
but, you know.
That's probably about 10% of the time I'd buy lunch.
I had a sack lunch most of the time.
Do you ever have a lunchbox?
Never really a lunchbox was just a brown,
brown paper bag.
I had a lunchbox as a kid.
Do you remember what it was?
They got a G.I. Joe and a He-Man.
Those are my favorite two cartoons.
I had Super Friends and Dukes-A-Hazard.
Oh, man.
Oh, yeah.
I would have beat you all up in Illinois.
What are you talking about?
Those are cool.
They were cool back then.
No.
I had a little G.I. Joe lunchbox with a little G.I. Joe thermos inside that sometimes you put soup in there.
It's not cool to like stuff, dude.
Oh. I'm just kidding.
We were okay liking things back then.
That might be a different generation. It's not cool to care, dude.
Even as you got older, for sure it wasn't.
Yeah, I'm just kidding.
For sure, though, when you got older, it was like you wear one strap of the backpack,
and you'd rather give yourself back problems than just wear it correctly.
Yeah, because it looks so cool.
who just care it was one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The movie 21 Jump Street.
Yeah,
to talk about that.
Very funny.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
But that was true.
I mean,
Hannah would talk about,
you know,
growing up in Canada,
the cool thing was to not wear coats.
Like if you were like,
cool,
you would just be freezing to death.
I think that's what it's going on now.
Kids,
or at least boys,
will wear shorts to school
when it's 10 degrees outside.
I used to do that.
I'd get that.
I would pride myself.
I don't need a jacket
and I'm wearing a jacket.
And I'm wearing a jacket.
And I'm wearing a jacket.
shorts. I think you had a school uniform.
Flip-flops. I'm talking about just like in general.
Oh, yeah. You know,
weekends. What about using
the bathroom at school? Like, like, number two.
Would you do it? I was, I never did.
I don't think I ever did it a single time my whole
career of high school. I don't think I did either.
I was so terrified.
Dude, in high school, you're looking for, yeah,
I'll go take a break.
I'd rather check out of school.
High school's like, oh, like a job at an
office. Yeah, I'm going to go use the bathroom.
Are you playing a horse with no name?
Yeah.
I never would do it.
I don't,
I don't,
elementary school,
I bet I was too,
too scared to do that.
But high school,
it's like,
I'm running the show now.
I don't care.
Yeah.
Let them,
yeah,
let them in.
I'm taking care of business.
I was not for it.
I like to be very discreet about my,
we had a poop bandit
in my high school.
Ever talk about that?
No.
We had a guy who was vandalizing the bathrooms with,
oh,
gross.
Yeah,
hence the name to poop bandit.
That's disgusting.
You want to fess up right now?
It was not me.
And I don't know who it was, but it was a thing for a while.
That's disgusting.
I agree.
Now, did you guys do recess or was that banned by the time you got in school?
I did recess in primary school, but it was done by elementary school.
Primary was first, kindergarten, first second.
I don't think we had it after that.
I think middle school, we had little breaks.
but it wasn't called recess.
It was like a 15-minute break or something.
K-through-6, we had legit play kickball, dodgeball, that kind of stuff.
We had PE, and I guess that's probably what recess was for us.
But when you're younger, you have just like a general go out in the playground, do whatever.
First second, kindergarten, first second, we had that.
I don't remember it after that.
You don't think in third grade you had recess?
I don't think so.
Wow.
I think it was PE.
So you didn't have recess.
You're learning how to sew.
Did you go to school at a sweatshop?
That's what it feels like.
It does sound like it. Yeah.
It does sound like it.
We had portables.
So in a way, I did live in a trailer for a while.
Guess what portables are?
No.
I had art and a portable.
Basically, if they didn't have enough classrooms, they would bring in.
Oh, it was like a trailer.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, we had some, I took some classes and portables.
I'd never heard them called that.
Did you just call trailers?
Yeah, just trailers.
I just called it art class.
There's enough trailers around.
We didn't think it was weird.
We were complaining.
and Dusty's like, this is nice.
Yeah, that's a good trailer, honestly.
That's a double wide?
Yeah.
Did you do a lot of after school, like activities?
Just sports.
All the way through?
Yeah, all the way through.
I did some sports, but for the most part, I was, I was heading on to the house.
I didn't do a lot of activities.
Do campus life or anything?
I did campus life.
Yeah.
Matter of fact, I did.
You know what?
The campus life people from Orlando came to see me not long ago.
And I didn't want to wear that shirt in here.
Campus life was like a Christian.
kind of after school thing.
And in high school, I was really into campus life.
I loved it.
I became a leader at campus life.
Really?
And then I started throwing a lot of parties, and I got demoted from leader.
They didn't kick me out of campus life, but they were like, we really can't have you being a leader.
We're going to throw a lot of parties.
This is in high school?
Yeah.
I love campus life.
That would rageers at the trailer.
Seventh grade.
Yeah, see, by high school, by 10th grade, we had moved out of the trailer.
And so 10th grade, I lived in a house just a mile in front of the school.
So, you know, so I would walk to school a lot before I got a license.
And it was great.
It was so easy to invite people.
I might just go down this road.
Yeah.
Last house on the right.
You'll be partying.
You'll hear it.
It was great.
I'm the campus life leader.
Senior year was hot for me.
I really made some waves by senior year.
Really?
Yeah.
Kind of came into your own?
Yeah, it was hot.
Let your hair down.
Yeah.
You're popular?
Yeah, it was a hot year from.
I don't like to use the word popular, but I was cool.
You know what I mean?
You're cool.
Popular seems more douchey.
I was cool.
People liked me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You were a well-liked guy.
Yeah.
That's fair to say.
Yeah.
How about you, Brian?
Well-liked?
Yeah.
I mean, I think I was liked.
Yeah.
I wasn't popular.
But were there, when you think of high school, were there, like, that's the popular group or whatever?
There was.
And I can't see that I was in that group.
Maybe I was in the minor leagues of that group.
I knew some people in there.
I do feel like my senior year was by far the most fun year because, I mean, I guess that's true for most people.
But there's something about when you're the oldest ones, you just have a different attitude.
You're not waiting four years to run this place.
Ninth grade was really my worst year, I think, just in the way that I, and I don't think it had necessarily anything to do with change in schools to high school.
But it was just like, that's the year I felt the most.
insecure, you know, in my life.
So it was a real turnaround for my senior year.
Well, that's probably true for freshman years.
Maybe so.
I mean, I wasn't getting picked on or anything.
I just was like, well, you're going through some changes personally at that time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, there's a lot going on.
There is a lot going on.
I get that.
Yeah.
I don't know if ninth grade, I didn't peak in ninth grade either, you know.
I mean, the size difference of some of the kids.
Yeah, it's men and kids.
There's freshmen in high school that haven't hit puberty yet.
And you're in the same locker room.
with grown men now.
Yeah, I remember there was a guy.
I don't know if he was in 11th grade or 12th grade when I was in ninth grade named
Rex Story.
And I remember seeing that guy and I was like, this is a grown man.
Yeah.
He's going to the school.
He had a five o'clock shadow all the time.
Yeah.
This guy's in school.
Shaving between classes.
Yeah.
Who is this guy?
So I looked up number two pencils were very big back in my day.
I got banned on the bus for throwing them.
And then you got stabbed by one.
Well, I think that, it may have been that.
It might have been a lead pencil.
That's what the number two pencil is, right?
Well, I mean like a mechanical pencil.
Yeah, yeah.
Did you have mechanical pencils growing up?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
I mean, we didn't use them much, but they did exist.
We had the pins that, like, four different colors and.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, those are neat.
Yeah, purple, green.
Yeah.
Do you have the erasable?
pens, those were so weak. Yeah, they were weak. I used to hate those erascible pens, dude. They didn't
write well. They didn't erase well. What do we do? I got an erascible pen. You mean a pencil?
Yeah. What about a trapper keeper? I, you know what? I have a trapper keeper at home from
middle school that I almost brought. But I thought, you know what I bet people know what it looks like.
I wish you had. What is it? I don't even know what you're talking about. A trapper. You don't know
what a trapper keeper is? A trapper keeper. Yeah. Is it like a, you don't know either, Lord?
I have a trapper keeper in perfect condition.
I wish you'd have brought it.
I should have brought it.
I still don't know what it is.
Well, it's a folder.
It's like a three ring binder.
That's a mechanical pencil.
It folds.
And then it has another piece that comes over and Velcro's on.
And then it has other little pockets in it.
It had a lot of cool designs on it.
None of those are.
Doesn't open up like an accordion?
No, no.
No, it's just a three ring binder really with another piece that comes over.
That one right there on the right with the football.
That's a trapper keeper.
This one right here?
No, the one far right.
Yeah, trap for keeper.
Yeah, that's it.
You saw your stuff in there.
I should have brought it.
It's in such good condition.
What's inside of it?
A three ring binder with other pockets.
No, but what's inside yours?
You just have, I had, uh, card, comic cards from when I was a kid.
Oh, okay.
Comic cards?
That's what I thought you said too.
Like comment cards.
Like Marvel comics.
Oh, comic.
Like a comedy club comment card.
Yeah.
Still keep it okay.
I hated the feature.
I have a lot of.
comment cards from when I worked at the restaurant that I love to keep.
They were just not always about me, just funny ones.
I love those.
You comment cards at Hyman's?
Yeah.
Any mean about you?
Not really mean about me that I was able to get.
Now, there could have been some that I didn't acquire.
But yeah, I mean, there would be some mean about the restaurant or funny or nice about me
that I liked.
But, yeah, I mean, I saw a guy, a guy was like giving me a real attitude one time, one
I was working there.
And I see him pull the comic card out out of the thing.
So I take a pen out, click it, hand it to him.
Oh, good.
I was like, yeah.
That's a power move.
Get it, dude.
I was like, get it.
Fill it out.
Wow.
Yeah.
Ooh.
And comic card.
Did, we had on our pencils, a little, I don't know what you call it, little rubber things you'd put on the pencil to kind of grip it.
Grip.
Yeah.
Guys know what I'm talking about?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Big time.
Yeah.
Those are really fun.
That's supposed to keep your hand from cramping up.
but if you're left-hand, like me, there's no.
I'd never use these triangular ones.
These look.
Well, that's what I was talking about.
That's probably the original.
I'm talking about they were just flush with the pencil.
By the time you had, oh, yeah.
Sylandrical.
By the time you'd come along, they perfected it.
Let's keep it from rolling off the desk.
Oh, that's what it was for.
I think it would play that role.
Was that an eraser too?
Could you use that as an eraser?
I think there were some.
You remember the little eraser that went over the top?
Oh, big time.
Yeah, those were fun.
Those were a good time.
Yeah.
What about the mechanical pencil that you would twist and the lead would come out real far?
You never saw that?
You never saw that?
It was a yellow one and it would twist at the end and then the lead would come out real far.
I think it was made by mead.
Aaron, but did you use pencils in school?
Mechanical.
Yeah, yeah.
We ran the gamut.
I read where I was doing those research.
Oh, maybe that pencil mate.
There it is.
Yeah.
Those.
I know what you're talking about now.
The SAT is going all digital starting next year.
Oh.
So no more number two pencils needed.
That's a huge blow for the number two pencil industry because that's kind of the last time you needed to use one.
They should have been prepping for this.
Yeah.
Should have been getting themselves prepared.
How do they do it digitally now?
Do you go in like a voting booth?
You go in and take it?
That's a good question.
I don't know.
I read that it's supposed to be.
It right then, it did seem like an ad rate.
He goes, that's a good question.
Well, I got to look at papers here.
We'll provide devices to students who don't own their own computers.
Some people don't.
Oh, okay.
So you just attend schools without access to technology.
Doing it on a Chromebook in a classroom.
I guess it will be shorter moving from three hours to just two hours and give more students more time per question.
You should be able to take the SAT and then just get your score back that night.
Wow.
Yeah.
What was that reaction?
I know.
It sounded like I was thinking that's a hot take.
Wow.
Did you ever like cheat off people's papers or have other people cheat off your papers?
Like copy it?
Like in class when you'd be copying off them?
I was in Spanish in 11th grade.
I didn't want to take it.
You had to take one foreign language.
And my teacher was pregnant.
And so halfway through the year, she left.
And we got a substitute.
And this substitute, there was these two girls, Haley and Kempark.
Katie and they would let me copy all and they were very good at Spanish they would let me copy
their paper every day the teacher knew it was happening they would just straight up let me copy
wow nobody cared finals time came the substitute wouldn't let me sit next to them so
and the entire final was in Spanish I hadn't I didn't know a single no Bueno I just went I was the
first one done. I just went, it was no point. And even read it. You can read the instructions.
Yeah. I just went all the way through it. I failed that test so bad. I had like a hundred in the
class. Yeah. But I failed the final so bad. I almost failed the class. That's why the teacher
let you do it. I know, like, you're shooting yourself in the foot. But that's really, but she's,
you know what I mean? That was really, I don't, I don't appreciate her method. Because it's like,
come on. And it's not become, it's not been a problem for me to not know it, to not know
No Spanish. But it would have been nice to know it, right?
Yeah, but I bet Haley and Katie don't even know.
No.
You know what I mean?
Not from that class.
If you were doing stand-up in Spanish right now, I think your career would be a lot different.
Well, yeah, for sure.
You would definitely sold out in Austin.
For sure, yeah.
You know?
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
Well, you're right.
It could have played a role.
You do one night in English, do the next night in Spanish.
But who knows, you know, what if I'd learn Spanish and end up, you know, going into a different field?
I may be more successful in another area.
you know what I mean, who knows what road I would have went down.
Maybe learning would have become something important to me.
And I would have said, you know what?
Actually, learning the language has opened different parts of my mind.
This earth is spinning so fast.
I could be a scientist or something, talking about planets.
You would have gone to D.C. for vacation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm glad that dusty doesn't exist.
You'd be an astronomer.
Yeah.
That's the end of it.
You know, bilingual.
Maybe I would have got so into languages.
I would have been like, let's learn another one.
Yeah.
And then another one.
But you know what?
My substitute teacher.
She didn't know anything about Spanish.
Right.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Don't be like you got to learn, but you can't teach it.
That's why she needs to babble.
That's what I was hoping that would be a sponsor.
That would be great for this episode.
Yeah, that would have been perfect.
Do you guys ever have the dream that you can't remember your locker combination and have to get into it?
It was a very common dream apparently.
Never had it.
I had a dream.
I haven't had it in a couple years now, but I used to have a recurring dream that I was in,
college and it was the day of final exams and I found out I was in a class that I had never been to
or I was signed up for a class I didn't know about and I had that dream. And I mean,
and then I'd wake up and be like, oh, dude, I graduated four years ago. Yeah, such a relief.
Yeah, I don't know what that is in my brain, but I think that's a common one. It is. I've had that
too. God, isn't that bizarre? Yeah. What is that? I don't know. I'd never have school.
dreams, but I will tell you something that happened. My mom brought up some middle school yearbooks to me,
and I had seen the high school yearbooks over the years. I had looked at those. The middle school
yearbook, it felt like it opened parts of my brain memories that had been shut down as I'm
turning these pages and seeing this. And it shook me up for a couple of weeks. This is about a year
ago. And I just was like, it was just bringing back, like not necessarily bad memories, but just
things I had completely forgotten.
These weren't memories you've repressed.
These are just stuff you forgot about.
Yeah.
It just was like, because I remember high school well, but I don't really think about
middle school that often.
Right.
But it was just bringing that up.
And I was like, this is weird.
And I think I might have had a couple of dreams around that time.
It shook me in a weird way.
I can see that.
Just brings you back to memory lane.
I went back to my elementary school a few years ago for some event and went into the sum of
the same rooms like the cafeteria.
It seems so big to me as a kid.
And now it just seems so tiny.
I couldn't believe it was the same room.
Yeah.
Yeah, everything seems so much smaller, right?
Yeah.
There's a crazy scene in the office where they go back to Pam's high school
when they're doing that career event.
Have you seen the office?
I've seen a lot of it.
I've not seen this episode.
She goes back to the art room thinking,
that a picture she drew when she was in high school would still be hanging up.
Do you remember that part of it?
She's like, I thought it might be hanging up.
35 at this point.
I don't think she's supposed to be that old, but to your point.
I think your terrible drawing is going to be hanging up here.
Yeah.
17 years later.
Yeah.
Well, that's, that part always annoyed me.
Well, that's what people always think, though, in a way.
People always think, like, when, when they leave a job or they leave a school that, oh,
they're going to remember me.
and it's like when you work at a restaurant and you think the moment you leave people are just like can I get your shift yeah we had kids you have this I don't know if this is common or if this is just a my school thing but we had kids who graduated the year before they would show up the next year and just come to class like the first second day of school like isn't that funny we're here but we graduated wow in uniform
for.
That's weird.
It is weird.
I remember thinking,
God,
these kids are nerds,
dude.
You're done with high school.
Get out of here.
It's not funny that you're here.
Well,
if you peak in high school,
it is,
I think it is hard to let it go.
But most of those kids,
gave it a chance.
I'm assuming most of the kids
of your school went to college afterwards.
Yeah.
So,
weren't they,
shouldn't they bid at college somewhere?
Well,
I guess maybe it started early.
Yeah.
Yeah,
that's weird.
My high school gave us the option.
I remember my senior year.
They gave us the option.
We voted as a senior class.
Do you want to extend the school day by 15 minutes every day?
Or we start the school year a week early.
So we started July 31st that year in July.
Rather than just having extra 15 minutes each day.
Yeah, we voted on that.
I voted to start early too.
I thought it's going to be tough for a week, but then every day, the whole school year I'd be thinking, gosh, I'd be out of here by now.
This last 15 minutes is brutal.
I think I would have done that too.
Yeah.
It's like, let's just get it over.
Probably at the time, but I think I would go the extra 15.
Every day, though, do you?
Give me that week off.
Yeah.
If it was on the back end, it would be more appealing.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, you end a little bit earlier?
Yeah, I've said we can.
What about now, though?
Let's say you're doing stand-up, and they're like, all, all right.
Right. They're going to go, you come in on Thursday, do a show on Thursday, or the two shows on Friday, two shows on Saturday, you do an extra 15 each show. What would you do? I think that the show would suffer if I had to do it. I had to do it. The audience votes. They're like, you know what, do a Thursday. Yeah. How about doing Wednesday as well?
Yeah. Do them all. That's a good question. I don't know. In college, our classes, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Friday, Friday.
were 50 minutes and Tuesday and Thursday were an hour 15. And I like the Monday, Wednesday,
Friday classes, even though I went three times a week, just because hour 15 felt so long.
Yeah. I just wanted to get out of there. See, block scheduling came in while I was in school.
So we would do, we were doing six classes a day, sometimes seven for about an hour. And then
after ninth grade, in 10th grade, we went to block scheduling where we did four classes a day,
all about an hour and a half. Really?
Yeah.
An hour and a half class is tough, man.
Yeah.
And then you've got to leave and go right to another one and start it.
But it was great in the sense that like you, you know, you'd have your two main classes,
your two.
And then you'd do that half the year.
And then the second half of the year, you'd switch to four other classes.
Now, let me ask you, a more extreme version of this.
So my high school in Alabama, Catholic high school, in the early 90s, I think,
The senior class voted to move to a four-day school week.
So they went like eight to five Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, then they had Fridays off.
And they did that for one year.
And then they all voted like, let's go back.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Huh.
That's a long day.
That is a long day.
It's a really long day to be in school.
And it's long for the teachers.
It's long for everybody.
And if you play sports, then what do you do?
State till seven?
Yeah. Well, yeah. We'd probably stay that late anyway, but you'd say way later than you would.
Yeah.
You know, if you can't start practice till 545 every day.
That's tough on everybody.
Was it cool having your dad as the principal, or was it not fun?
It was convenient sometimes.
I'd know things before other people, that kind of stuff.
Do you think that's why you weren't class clown?
Like, because you're like, there's immediate consequences if I'm getting in trouble.
here. I think actually,
if I'm being honest, it gave me
a little more leeway with
people because the dynamic
between me and the teachers was different.
Because you're bad at their boss.
Yeah, essentially.
So that probably played into
it. I don't know. It was just never that. There were always
guys that were funnier than me.
You know, that were like doing physical
stuff. Oh, yeah. Big laughs,
you know. And I was never that guy.
But I, like, snow days were big.
Yeah.
And so my school here in Hendersonville, Tennessee, we had maybe two snow days when I was there.
And it was a big deal to get a snow day.
Sumner County public schools, if there's a cold breeze, they go, we're out for a week.
Almost every public school in Tennessee.
Yeah, they're like, oh, we can't, we can't do it.
We were out all the time.
And my dad would wake up at like 4 a.m.
He would drive to the school to see the roads.
he'd drive like back roads and be like the roads are fine out here and we'd be the only school in the county open all the time dude um so did parents like that or did they get mad i don't know if the parents liked it the kids weren't pumped about i'm sure you know so i would be getting if the parents still have to go to work they like it that's probably true but if the parents like you know my my particular road is dangerous whatever you know and you'd find it's like well i'll drive there and say yeah
Really, I drove by your house last night.
Everything's fine.
Would that be an excuse absence if they said, hey, it's not safe?
I think so.
Yeah.
I think so.
I love that your dad would make the drive.
Oh, dude.
My dad, when the Nashville flood happened, the big one.
Come on in.
Yeah.
It's not over our neck.
The JP2 in Hennersville was like, it was like a moat around it.
Yeah.
It was so flooded and you could not get to it.
We had to take our AP test.
that weekend.
And they're like,
well,
we're going to have to
reschedule because the AP tests,
the physical tests are in the building.
And my dad got in a robe.
My dad got the boat and went to the school to get the test.
And then took them back at a boat.
And we took the test like off campus somewhere.
Wow.
Your dad was serious.
I'm not going to let us get behind on stuff just because the weather,
you know.
I go say helicoptered in.
I like that.
I like the boat,
though.
I like the idea your dad is like rescuing the test.
the tests are trapped
There's all kinds of animals in there getting drowned
You just got to grab these tests real quick
They're like oh Mr. Weber you're here
He's like I'm just here for the test
I don't have enough room for you in the boat
Uh huh
Were chalkboard still a thing when you were in school
We were fading them out
We were going
We started chalkboard when I was in school
And see I feel like I'm the in between
You are for us
You are yeah
And then it went all dry erase
By the time I was in high school
It was all dry erase
Like a whiteboard
Yeah
Did you?
And I'll be in Alabama
and we were all whiteboards.
When I came to Tennessee, every classroom had a smart board.
Wow.
That's not what I thought you were going to say.
I think you're like, y'all still had chalkboards here.
No.
Smart board.
So is that like, you operate from an iPad or it was like a TV that you could touch?
It was.
You gasp.
It was still a projected image, but you could touch and control things by touching the screen.
Wow.
What about the,
I'm not about the thing
The little
It's like a little
box and it had like a glass top
With a light in it
And then that had a mirror
And then it would project it
And they would have a little plastic
And even like you could roll the plastic sometimes
It was in that thing you had earlier
I forgot what it's called
I think it was called a projector maybe
If you scroll down it's on there
And it had you know
They could write on it with a little dry erase markers
And it would show up
Overhead projector
Overhead projector yeah
We use these.
Oh, yeah.
That was big time.
There's plenty of these.
The overhead projector was big time.
Yeah.
You could write right on.
If you had a, you know, a racable marker, you could write right on the glass.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
I mean, it was big time.
I would never do that.
I loved an overhead projector.
Yeah.
But once you get a smart board, you're like, oh, these overheads are weak.
Yeah.
Well, obviously, they didn't have cell phones when I was in school.
They weren't invented, but I bet it was pretty crazy maybe when you were in high school.
Not for me either, yeah.
I mean, they might, a cell phone was probably invented, but it was not prevalent.
No smartphones.
Yeah.
I didn't get a cell phone until my sophomore year of high school.
I didn't have a smartphone until my sophomore year of college.
Okay.
So I had like a dumb cell phone.
Yeah.
Through high school.
Yeah.
Still a bit of an issue with people texting.
I didn't have texting in high school.
Maybe I did towards the end, but it was not that big of.
an issue. It's probably insane right now. Oh, yeah. You're doing everything on your phone. I think they got
to a point where they're like, they can't even tell you to put your phones away. They're like,
we just got to figure out how to teach you. They should do what Zanis does and have the
yonderbacks. You know, yonderbacks schools are actually yonder's, some of their biggest clients.
Oh, yeah. That's what they should have. You lock your phone up in a little pouch at the beginning
of the day. And then at the end of the day, they open it for you. Yeah. That's the way they should do it.
Yeah. Yeah. And I want to say, I invited Harper,
Bargatsi to come on to tell us about what schools like today.
She declined the offer.
She had after.
Tough to get a bragan.
It is.
I asked Laura.
Ask Laura.
Laura said no as well.
So I got to talk to you guys.
They moved out of here.
They're not even here.
We don't even know what's going on.
We just show up.
But the, yeah, I mean.
Do you have a pencil sharpener like that?
Oh, yeah.
I love the pencil sharpener.
This was an excuse to get out of your chair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know?
Oh, yeah.
If you sat on the other side of the room,
I would have sharpen my pencil.
You'd walk around,
see what's going on.
And there's nothing like a freshly sharpened pencil.
Oh,
that's great.
Especially from one of those bad boys.
Yeah.
Dude,
the mechanic,
the electric ones never worked as well.
It wasn't as good.
It wasn't as satisfying,
you know?
Yeah.
Just to really feel it.
I have one of these in my house.
Oh,
yeah?
Just randomly just on a wall.
I haven't used it.
You have it now?
Yeah.
Oh.
Right now.
Oh, okay.
My grandmother
had one growing up.
Maybe that's just a thing.
Hell was your house.
Like old?
50s and 60s.
Maybe they just came with pencil sharpers back then.
People were writing stuff down.
You were using number two pencils all the time.
Got to sharpen.
Yeah.
What an industry number two pencils used to be.
What a fall from grace.
Yeah.
They ran the country back in the day.
Yeah, what happened to number one?
What about pencil break?
Do you ever play that number two pencils where you break in each other's pencils?
No.
Oh, we used to play that a lot where you hold it pencil?
Is this why you got stabbed before?
And then other, no, I got stabbed for, um.
We don't have to get into it.
Yeah, it wasn't a game.
It wasn't a game.
Yeah, not getting stabbed.
That was never a game.
Okay.
Pencil break was, you know, you could, you know, you snap it.
And then also thump.
Did you play that where you'd hold your knuckles out like that and you'd thump each other's knuckles?
You ever do that?
I don't know what you're doing.
You don't see that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh yeah, like a little tracer.
It's like flimsy.
Yeah.
Oh, like, it's an optical illusion.
It looks like it's bending and flexible.
Yeah, okay.
See that?
Oh, yeah.
It's pretty crazy.
That's a solid.
Wow, that is.
Physics.
What about pencils on the nose?
Would you do that?
I like to put pencils in the nose and then I could hold a pencil with my chin, you know, like,
I can't, this is not a pencil.
I can't do this.
But, you know, it's also been a long time since I've done it.
Yeah.
And then you do, do this.
Mustache?
Before I had a real mustache.
For the record,
Nate's back next week, folks.
This is the good stuff.
This is what I've been waiting for.
This is what I'm talking about.
This is what school's really all about.
This is what we were doing in school.
What about football?
Like, with a little paper.
Oh, yeah.
Paper football is huge.
Paper airplanes.
I remember, do you have nap time in kindergarten?
Oh, yeah.
We play paper football during nap time.
We'd have a towel.
You brought a towel to use as like your blanket.
Yeah.
Huh.
Like a bath time.
towel. Yeah, I remember that. And we played paper
paper football. What did you sleep on
the floor? I never slept during that time. But you think you're supposed to just
sleep on the, uh, on the towel. We had a little mat that
we would bring a mat that we would bring a mat. I think I did have a
man. That's fancy. I did have a little mat. We had bath towels. This is the late
70s. Yeah, I know.
Not in kindergarten. I didn't go to kindergarten, but like first grade.
I mean, this is like, yeah, I mean, to me, this is the stuff on the, on the bus. It
was pencil break. It was thump. You didn't do that, though. You hold your
knuckles out like that.
You try to thump it real hard.
Oh, we would do that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But pencils weren't involved.
No pencil.
It was two.
There's two different games.
Okay.
Thump and pencil break.
Yeah.
We would play this game.
Oh, yeah.
Remember that game where if you look at it below the waist, you punch them on the,
I used to come home from middle school.
Just huge bruises all over my arm.
My mom's like, what are you doing all day?
I'm respecting the game.
You have a joke about senior prank.
And when I was in Fair Hope, this past weekend,
yeah.
Somebody had poured, like, laundry detergent in the water fountain, and it was bubbling out everywhere.
Oh, that's...
Yeah.
That probably cost a lot to fix.
That probably caused some real problems.
My buddy said that on this next door app, people were not happy.
Yeah, dude.
I hate that.
Laundering detergent in the water system of the high school?
No, it wasn't.
This was just like the city fountain, like, they're in Fairhope.
Oh, like a decorative fountain.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, not like, I'm sorry, not the water valve.
I thought you meant like the water system of the high school where like the water fountains.
Like everybody's eating tidepods.
No, no, no, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, like a decorative.
Oh, okay.
I kind of like that a little more.
I thought you all were taking it hard.
I don't like it, but I don't like vandalism.
But, you know, I was also in an Airbnb this weekend.
And they, it was clear they used.
Last week you talked about vandalism stores the whole time.
Well, I'm vandalizing a competition that's, uh, that's different.
That's an evil corporation.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
The city's water supply.
Well, yeah.
I don't think the, the decorative fountains tied into the drinking water.
That's where they get it.
So all the wishing well pennies are down there too.
Yeah.
So they get it.
Copper is good for you.
All those water tastes weird.
But I was in an Airbnb and they could have used too much fabric softener.
And I woke up in the night and all I could smell was I couldn't even sleep.
I felt like I was just breathing in poison.
Dude, I had a guy on the plane this morning, smelled so bad.
Smelled so bad.
Worst I've ever smelled a person.
It was that seat in Southwest where there's no chair in front of me.
Yeah.
And then so the row right in front, that guy smelled.
So he sat down.
Joe Kelly is with me.
He texts me.
He goes, this dude stinks.
And then I caught a whiff of him.
I was like, oh my God, dude.
It was that bad.
And he kept sticking his arm out to touch the, uh,
Like the window thing up and down.
And every time he did that, I was like, I was sleeping.
And it kept waking me up.
Like, oh, he was reaching over you?
No, just reaching to the side.
Just making a movement.
There's no chair in front of me.
So I'm catching all the back draft from this dude.
And he had like greased up oiled hair.
He spent some time on his hair, but he hadn't taken a shower in probably a week.
Wow.
I mean, it was my whole flight was this guy stuck.
That's awful.
Yeah.
I was at the airport.
I never, I forgot all about this until you talk about it.
this, but this guy, I was sitting, looking at the airline that was taking off.
Yeah. And this guy was facing me. He had big headphones on. He was so hungover. He was making
like these groaning, moaning noises, very loud in the airport. Like he was just in horrific
pain. Just, oh, he kept doing it. I don't know if he could even hear how loud he was being.
Because he had the headphones on. Yeah. And his flight, uh, boarded and shut the door while he's just
And then he finally gets up and looks around and sees what's happening.
He starts losing his mind at the counter.
He's like, I'm right here.
I've been right here the whole time.
It's like, do you got to take those headphones off?
I know.
Yeah, you've got to exist in the world.
Yeah.
Yeah, he missed his flight sitting right there.
Obviously, in a lot of hungover pain.
And I'm like, oh, dude, you messed up.
And it was so satisfying to me for some reason.
You were glad it happened.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But this has been a great podcast.
It's been fun.
A bit of a Cinderella story.
I would say.
Real storybook podcast.
Yeah.
Fairytale ending, if you will.
Yeah, I think the clock's about to strike midnight, ladies and gentlemen.
And all right.
Well, thank you guys.
Brian Bates, Aaron Weber, Dusty Slay, signing off.
We're having a good time.
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