The Nateland Podcast - #36 Video Games

Episode Date: March 3, 2021

This episode, we discuss the history of video games. We'll look at the first video games invented, share our own personal history with video games, and look at the future of video games. Of course, we... also spin off into useless conversations about subjects like whether Walmart still has layaway, how many people really need a Thanksgiving turkey, and how Brian pronounces the word mature.    Co-hosts: Brian Bates ( https://www.instagram.com/brianbatescomic) & Aaron Weber ( https://www.instagram.com/realaaronweber)   Podcast produced by Nate & Laura Bargatze Recording & Editing by Genovations Media https://www.natebargatze.com https://www.allthingscomedy.com https://www.genovationsmedia.com Email - Nateland@NateBargatze.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 hello folks welcome to Nate land it's been you know living it up i did shows so where at uh just two like private shows corporate shows yeah private people can't even talk about it how to get paul allen's cruise ship i'm just kidding uh They were both good. One was in Oklahoma City. And so it was like Zoom. And they'd be like, I thought there would be people there. And they had just like 15 people there. On Zoom? No, no, like 1,300 on Zoom.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Oh. So I did a show to 15 people, 1,300 watching, and it was tough. They had masks on. It's just not super easy. Yeah. And the other one was at a high school, Liberty Christian High School. And then it's where Jason Witten is coaching. And maybe these cookies, we're going to post it
Starting point is 00:01:25 on Instagram I'll post it on my Instagram they made cookies with all my jokes this lady this lady there very nice and she
Starting point is 00:01:33 and she makes these cookies I mean they're unreal like they were it's like the the expired medicine you know the Cape Fear
Starting point is 00:01:41 Cemetery and like just all perfectly that's awesome laid out it was very cool did you get to meet jason whitton no i saw him i mean you see him you see him he's enormous yeah uh i saw him in the crowd but i didn't really i only talked to like the people that were running it you know so they were raising money for them uh but yeah it would have been yeah would have been fun should have i want to go back and visit the school. Like look at it actually,
Starting point is 00:02:06 but you can go see it. This was like an enormous, you know, these high schools are, yeah. Some of these high schools are just, you're getting like colleges, palaces.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's so crazy just to know the high school that you grew up going, you know, and my, so I went to Donaldson Christian Academy,
Starting point is 00:02:23 but there, we were not, we're never, we're never, we're more of a blue-collar private school kind of. And there's a lot of schools in Nashville. I mean, there's this school here called Ensworth in Nashville. I mean, it is a college campus. I did a show there once, 9.30 in the morning in their auditorium, one of the best shows I've ever done in my life. Really? For the students? I thought – I was like i was like all right you know i'll just do it yeah i was doing like 20 minutes yeah and i do someone there and uh so i was like yeah i'll do like 20 minutes so i just
Starting point is 00:02:56 went and did it it was in their auditorium and i just low expectations 9 30 in the morning like you know it's high school kids you know who knows if they're all too cool to even be in there yeah and dude i mean you could have taped a special oh that's awesome they laughed so hard the theater was set up so good dark audience like the lights all off lights on me like you know the way you like it set up in a proper theater and i mean i was like good night there's nothing better than murdering before 10 a.m like to already be like you got a murder so early i think you called me and i was waking up and you're like i've already done a show and kill yeah yeah yeah what have you been doing brian yeah what are you doing already murdered today i used to always think that it was like the idea of like already
Starting point is 00:03:41 it always felt so weird you get one in and you do good. We used to do noon shows in New York sometimes at comedy clubs, and I would always think, I already did a show. It's 1 p.m. and I've done a show. Yeah, I've already worked. It feels so weird, but it was to already be done. But yeah, yeah, so it was good. All right, as always, we'll start with some of you guys' comments. You guys know where to leave them everybody's figured it out uh i don't know if i even know where to leave them
Starting point is 00:04:10 and i would like and i got a few i'd like to write uh we need a suggestion box in here brian and karen dougal dougal it's like doug with an al Yeah, Duggle? Duggle or Dugal. I would have said Dougal. Dougal. That would have been my first guess. Yeah, Dougal. That's more common. Hello, Brian, Aaron, Niblet. Not to brag, but we are pretty phenomenal parents
Starting point is 00:04:36 because we've spent years teaching our kids the importance of good comedy. We shouldn't be proud of our – we couldn't be prouder. I said we shouldn't be. We shouldn't be this of her we couldn't be proud i said we shouldn't be we shouldn't be this proud but we are uh we couldn't be prouder of our 15 year old maddie when she ran downstairs to tell us that she found your podcast we have not been disappointed keep the laughs coming thank you that's very nice yeah she found she's in she gave you thank you maddie i was gonna say he used our real names and gave you a nickname.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Brian Aaron and Niblet. I didn't even pick it up. Maybe because they already knew I would mess up their names, so they go, let's take a shot at him. That's very cool. Thank you, Maddie. Thanks, Maddie. Your parents shouldn't be that proud. They shouldn't be that proud, but they are.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Jeff Wyatt, really great episode and very rewatchable. Never heard of Adam Ray, but his storytelling, I haven't either, but his storytelling was so natural and funny. He was great at effortlessly pulling out the right word to describe events. I can't mess up the word when they're describing the word. You know? Like I mess up, he was great at effortlessly and the word means how easy yeah that's where it's bad is i mess up in the description like they're using the sentence to say yeah like he's really good at it brian and aaron played it right, just nice and natural,
Starting point is 00:06:05 and allowing the guests to shine without feeling the need to contribute or compete. Sometimes being an appreciative audience for the storyteller just makes the whole event more fun for everyone. Very enjoyable. Yeah, that's true. I mean, I know I think people have said, like, that y'all don't talk much with the guests. But it's, you know, I've known a lot of the guests that we're going to have.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I want to know them forever. And so I'm going to be here. I get to see some of my old friends. And it's four people talking. I mean, it can't be so much. So it's like you've got to try to do a balance. Yeah. I mean, people are listening.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I know when you listen to stuff on the radio or you listen to, you know, there's a million people talking to you. Like, I don't know what's going on. Yeah. And we want the guests to – I'm bringing in guests, you know, you know that are really good yeah if they're good guests let them talk yeah they're going to be fun let's enjoy them you hear enough of this nonsense we say like you know trying to give you guys a break you know what i mean go check out aaron lane if you want more aaron and brian uh he won't have me on there oh man i man. I tried. Aaron, just book him on.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Okay, I'll book you for an episode. It's not that hard. Better step it up, though. It's happening right here. Casey Steiger. I still think that's my favorite thing ever, that you started another podcast that airs during this podcast. It just did a bit of, hey, folks, we're here at Aaron Land.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah, Aaron. Casey Steiger. Thursday. My family and I live in... Why does it say Thursday? Well, because there's two emails. Oh, two emails. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:32 So this was Thursday. My family and I live in Gig Harbor, Washington. Our middle school son is currently taking Washington State history, and we made him watch the podcast to learn some interesting facts about our state. In fact, he based his Washington State History paper on last week's episode. He almost surely will get an F, but it is well worth it in this case. We love the podcast. Keep it up. Friday, a little update, he got an A. Turns out his teacher is one of the folks, and she it keep doing god's work gentlemen unbelievable that's
Starting point is 00:08:06 amazing that's amazing did she go you only got an a because i listened to that podcast because this paper is terrible but i am a fan of the podcast that is awesome i love that yeah robert hart adam i'm in the new show about The Rock. I can't really say who I'm playing yet, though. Nate, 15 minutes earlier, our guest today is Adam Ray. He plays Vince McMahon on Young Rock. That was because we recorded it two weeks earlier. With Adam, we recorded that early, and he couldn't say it at that time,
Starting point is 00:08:42 which we should have just said, this is not going to come out until later. I didn't think about that. Nicholas Butcher. Nicholas's Butcher. Nicole's Butcher. Nicole's Butcher. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, because the A's there now.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Yeah. Nicole's Butcher. Obviously, in Aaron's friendship class, they didn't teach him not to get into verbal arguments about third-eye blind. You're right. Thoreau didn't write about that. It's one of those moments where you think it's going to come across as very playful.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And then I watched it back, and I was like, man, I really went at him. I was like, hey, dude, don't talk about third-eye blind. Not on this show. Not on, yeah. A lot of people commented. You want to talk about third eye blind yeah not on this show not on yeah a lot of people commented you want to talk about that on the rock show you go ahead and do that this is this is nate land if you and duane johnson want to give third eye by a good ribbon then that's to each its own right but you come to come into my hair and land yeah air and land is mainly about Third Eye Blind. That's part of whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:47 That's our identity. Yeah. Third Eye Blind rules. Yeah. I mean, everybody's fine with it. Star Rose. When they are all talking about 90s music and you see bathroom toilet, just sitting there nodding and smiling like he can relate.
Starting point is 00:10:06 But we all know he probably has no idea who omc sugar ray or third eye blind even is because he's from an older generation all love just thought it was just cute because i know uh because i know we've all been in that situation with a group of friends and they all have an inside joke and you feel out so you just go with it like oh yeah i remember that too uh i love the inside joke is just mainstream music of the 90s that's the you know all those guys right third eye blonde sugar ray i know yeah i don't know them well yeah you didn't listen to them in school what did you guys listen to ray charles early what was your what was your graduating high school i graduated high high school in 1990. The Titanic song? 1990. Was that the...
Starting point is 00:10:47 That's what y'all played to me, the Titanic song at the end. The number one song in 1990 was Nothing Compares to You by Sinead O'Connor. Never even heard of that. Y'all danced? I've heard of her. She's the guy that ripped up the Pope. That's all I know her from. Would y'all dance
Starting point is 00:11:04 with the gym floor open and be a pool underneath? Was that your high school? Like in It's a Wonderful Life? Yeah. Was it Wonderful Life? Did you watch it in color for the first time? Because I was there? Because you were there.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I was like, what? I don't know. I could have went either way with that joke. I know 80s music very well. Vision of Love by Mariah Carey. You know that song? I'm sure if I heard it. That was the number two song of your graduate.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I haven't heard any of these. Our big song was, I can't remember it. What was your year? Freshman. We were merely freshmen. Oh, Verpite. Verpite. That's a great song.
Starting point is 00:11:40 That was my senior year in high school. I don't know if we played it, but that was the big song that was my senior year in high school i don't know if we played it but that was the big song that year and uh so every time i hear that song i think of my good buddies going to jeff moffat's house you know country i got into country music early night that's when it just blew up oh garth brooks yeah yeah clint black all those guys so that was that was huge did country music kind of become super mainstream in the 90s in a way that it wasn't before it was like the one time it was kind of accepted yeah yeah it was garth brooks yeah he was the biggest artist now it's except now it's pop it's kind of poppy you know a lot of taylor swift yeah dan and shay we're of shay and shay's music's terrible
Starting point is 00:12:18 i listen to shay's stuff all the time. I listen to it before my shows. Tequila. Matthew Cunningham. As a fellow member of the 2014 graduating class from Notre Dame, here are a few of my favorite classes. Sports and television, introduction to coaching, crime and film, and television, and intro to jazz music this sounds like jeopardy
Starting point is 00:12:46 like categories my favorite class however was an independent studies class that a friend and i made up to get credit for studying the game day environment at college football games we traveled on the school's dime to a hot to ohio state oregon and al and Alabama to watch football games and report on the atmosphere in the stadium. Not sure if Aaron remembers, but the project helped get recorded music played in Notre Dame Stadium for the first time. Yeah. So that was actually, they made that up, but it actually was. That was a big moment.
Starting point is 00:13:19 I remember that game. It was the first night game in a long time, and they played Shippin' Up to Boston by Dropkick Murphys. Yeah. And I didn't know it was coming. Yeah. And they'd never played music over the speakers, and I just went crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:34 They just never allowed it? It was like an old school thing? There's a contingent of Notre Dame people that are purists, where they're like, we don't want a jumbotron. We want real grass. We only want the band to play. Yeah. And it was like that my first two or three years in notre dame and then they started playing music and we just went nuts dude it was so cool so thank you matthew if you if you help yeah you would have nailed all these classes yeah notre dame yeah intro to jazz music
Starting point is 00:14:00 maybe yeah maybe not that one but but the rest. But the beginning. Introduction to coaching, sports and television, crime and film, and television. And then going to tour? Well, I didn't know if you got into college, you can just – you go back to just being dumb. Like, I didn't know that. You know, I thought college was like you go like – you know, you got to go like dissect a body or something like that. I didn't know y'all were just taking friendship classes and sports and television like i didn't
Starting point is 00:14:29 like that's insane to me that i should have went to college yeah i might go uh willie p 1380 the amount of resentment nate feels towards colleges is next level if bartleby aaron and nate can find a way to do an online class together and film it, that could turn into comedy gold. It's gold, Jerry. Yeah. I wonder, you know, I've debated going to take college classes just even for the material, like just to go do something.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Like if I took some – I don't want to do online, though. I want to go. Like just go take some classes and be like, I got class tonight. And then just see if I get something out of it. Take a seminar class where it's a smaller group and it's more discussion-based. Those would be hilarious for you. I thought about it with, yeah, I would love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah. Oh, yeah? What do you do? You talk? You don't have to have a book or anything? You could have a book. I don't even know if this is right, but I kind of had two different types of classes. One was the one where it's like a bunch of people sitting in an auditorium, two or three hundred, whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And then there were small ones where you'd be at a conference table like this, and there's like eight to ten people. And it's just talking back and forth. Those are the ones I'd love to see. Go to one of those. back and forth. Those are the ones I'd love to see. Go to one of those. Maybe we've got an adjunct professor listening to this and they can throw me in because
Starting point is 00:15:49 they don't have a real job, so they just bring someone along. I think it'd be like Michael Scott at business school. They're throwing candy bars at people. Whatchamacallit. Make a million dollars. Payday. To make 100 grand.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Satisfied. Satisfied. Yeah, satisfied. I had a speech class in college where I was the only student. Really? It started off like four of us, and they just dropped out. And the last few weeks, it was just me and the professor. What'd you do?
Starting point is 00:16:22 I'll be honest with you, that makes sense. In what way? I just, I don't know. I just, that, I'm not, like, surprised. I don't even have a ton of questions after. I just go, okay, yeah, yeah. You would be a part of a class that everybody left, and then you don't leave.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And the teacher wants to just be like, let's just go. Just quit, dude. The other people quit. And you think. It's not a show that they'll cancel. I mean, I got an A for it. I mean, I would hope. We're just sticking it out.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Did you go, did every day, did you walk in and go, where is everybody? And then you're like, all right, I'm just kidding. Let's get after it. The same jokes, Brian, professor. Would you sit in different chairs? I just remember we sat across from each other. Yeah. Did you do speeches just to him?
Starting point is 00:17:14 I think so, yeah. Wow. About what? What is a speech class? What is a speech class? So that's what made you thrive in comedy? You're like, I'm pretty used to talking to one person. This is my demo yeah
Starting point is 00:17:28 yeah show starts with five ends with one the rest walked out yeah during my speech yeah I don't remember
Starting point is 00:17:42 what we do you just kind of pick a topic and then then you just prepare a speech about it yeah i think okay i would love that yeah i'll go to i'll go to some i should go to high school yeah let's let's start let me sit in there with uh let's dip your toes in first yeah let's get in there yeah nicholas alvarez i live in Seattle and went to see Nate at the last couple shows he did in Bellevue,
Starting point is 00:18:09 as well as the Moore Theater in Seattle. He kept starting to tell a story about performing there, but would distract himself and start talking about Tacoma instead. I've not been able to stop thinking about what the story may have been since Wednesday. Please let us know the story. He hasn't thought. Oh, in the podcast. On Adam's show.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah. What story was that? I don't know. I'll go back and listen and see. Is it the one where the fire alarm went off during the show? Was that in Tacoma? You told that one. Yeah, fire alarm went off. We walked out with the crowd. Then you had to go back.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I had to go back in. I told the Graham story with Seattle. Where? By the dock? Yeah, by the dock. Someone said that hotel, like Edgewater. I'll look back and see if I can remember. I don't know if I know, Nicholas.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Sorry, I just rolled that down. It's depressing. Everybody's like, oh, God. Mason Goodenson. It's depressing. Everybody's like, oh, God. Mason Goodenson. I like that. Mason Goodenson. I love how Nate says, I believe in everything because it's fun to believe, and his most often used phrase is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Well, that's unbelievable. Yeah. Is that one of the Goodenson quintuplets? I think that's the one who emailed us, right? Oh, yeah. It's one of the quintupletsuplets? I think that's the one who emailed us, right? Oh, yeah. It's one of the quintuplets. The brothers? One of the brothers, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:29 What do you call them? Brothers. I don't know. That's fun. Brian, we got four, because you get a built-in at least four people. What do you mean? With the brothers. Oh, right, right.
Starting point is 00:19:42 You get one, you get the other ones. Audience. mean with the brothers oh right right get one you get the other ones audience we only do we we twins we don't have time for use those guys in my speech class yeah yeah i mean yeah bro they would have thrown stuff at you uh i would have switched seats in the class like you should have went in and always just been kind of like, I'm going to try it over here. Mix it up. Brian Nesteater. He's a nest eater.
Starting point is 00:20:14 He eats nest. Can you believe that? How would you say it? Oh, that is a tough one. Nesteater? Nesteater? I definitely would have said nest eater what if he eats nest well then he spells nest wrong n-e-i-s can't be that obvious about it all right you gotta disguise it a little bit yeah family name that's how i got it let's go nest
Starting point is 00:20:40 eater is it the nest eater boys coming over i I'm pretty sure Nate just said Jaguars. This could be the next penguin. Jaguars. I think it did. That's how I say it. I say it that way, too. Is it Jaguars? Jaguars?
Starting point is 00:20:55 Jaguars. Not too scared of a Jaguar. But a Jaguar, I'm going to turn around. A Jaguar, I was like, bring it over. I'll fight it. If Aaron says it right, then it must be right. Yeah. I've always said the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Jaguars. Yeah. Jaguars. Cody Bork. My neighbor Felix is Nate's version of Bob Sacramento. That's great. Felix will love that. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:21:22 For people who don't know, Bob Sacramento is Kramer's friend who we never saw, but he always referenced. And none of us have seen Felix. Bob Sacramento. All right, so just read this last one? Yeah. All right. So, hello, folks. Andrew Sanders.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Hello, folks. So, hello, folks. Andrew Sanders. Hello, folks. My mom and I were just discussing the fact that she used to be a secretary of a bowling league in Louisville, Kentucky in the late 80s and early 90s. Over the course of the conversation, she mentioned that a man named Bob Bargetze in her league bowled three strikes in a row and got so nervous before his next turn to bowl that he went
Starting point is 00:22:03 into the bathroom and dropped dead of a heart attack by chances is any relation to you uh it is my granddad it's my grandfather my dad's dad i know uh yeah that's tough uh he didn't have a heart attack because he was so nervous about bowling, right? I don't know. I mean, the legend has grown. So my dad, my grandfather died in November 11th. My dad's birthday is the 12th. November 11th, 1984. So I was five, right?
Starting point is 00:22:44 I kind of remember going to the funeral. Like I, but that's about it. Yeah. I don't remember ever meeting him, but I remember, I kind of remember going to the funeral. I don't know if I, I feel like maybe I heard this story. I don't know. I don't know if I did.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I was so young that I don't know if I knew that story. That's, that's crazy. I know my grandmother's in the bowling hall of I did. I was so young that I don't know if I knew that story. That's crazy. I know my grandmother's in the Bowling Hall of Fame. Yeah, you've told us that. And so, I mean, they were big bowlers. Yeah. And so I do know that. And so they would have been there.
Starting point is 00:23:13 That's crazy. Yeah. And that's the thing with the last name Bargetzi is like you just, if we do anything, everybody knows. The name is just so different. Yeah. That everybody remembers and every you know you get a lot of that that's crazy yeah yeah yeah we and then uh they we talked to my mom
Starting point is 00:23:32 and and dad and yeah it's true uh grandfather bob wow that is great what a small world yeah yeah a little bit smaller now that he's not here. But did they say? Thanks for bringing that up. But they said that keep both three strikes in a row and then that happened? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think he's smoking, drinking. Yeah. You know, like it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Wasn't the nerves. Yeah. It wasn't Peter Weber. It wasn't skinny. Yeah. We were. Who do you think I am? I am. Yeah. Who do you think you are? Who do you think you are? Who do you think I am I am yeah who do you think you are
Starting point is 00:24:06 who do you think you are yeah wow that's interesting I mean yeah yeah maybe should have opened with that one you know I don't know if it's the best to close on let's keep these vibes rolling yeah we'll do one extra
Starting point is 00:24:21 just to let's see. I am Andy Pruitt. I am Andy Pruitt. I was going to go, I am Mandy Pruitt. Yeah. I took a class about the history of heavy metal music that counted as my math credit my freshman year of college.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I'm telling you, dude, that's insane. I think colleges, you guys, something's up. Can I tell you another funny one? Yeah. My sister told me she took a class her freshman year at Notre Dame called The Magic of Numbers. Yeah, I mean, come on, man. That's like, dude, colleges are a joke. They are a joke. And everybody a joke and they want to, everybody,
Starting point is 00:25:07 everybody wants their student debt taken away. Now, you know what? Pay it because y'all were doing nothing in there. Why do I got, I didn't go to college. I got to pay for your dumb debt so you can take friendship class. What is that? Hey, what is it? You think you're better than me here? Every class should be called, we're better than everybody. Because they are just making stuff up. This is nonsense. What is the magic of numbers? It was like a math class.
Starting point is 00:25:35 It was a math class. I don't know. I don't know what it was. I should look it up. Yeah. I think my daughter takes that class as well. You come from a magic family? I know, but you pay $80,000 a year to go learn the magic of numbers.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I mean, now they've got a new math. So that doesn't even matter. It's a first-year math seminar. Oh, first-year math seminar? It gives students a panoramic view of mathematics by considering a variety of topics displaying its enormous power and beauty. I mean, that's, dude. I could not have been a better description.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I just don't. What are you learning there? What do you get out of college? I'll tell you this. The topical course is rich in content and context. But if you go to college, what are you getting? That you get to say, I went to Notre Dame, and everybody's like, ooh. And then you go get a job?
Starting point is 00:26:38 I don't understand. It depends on what you study. I think my friends that were science majors or engineering majors, they learned practical things, right? The main benefit for me, I was a philosophy slash marketing major, is the diploma. Saying that you, I had. Like, did you learn marketing stuff? I did.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I don't, I can't think of anything. I mean, I would think you would learn it more on the fly. But it's, yeah, like unless you're a doctor, you're like doing something that's really going to happen. I just don't, you know, it just doesn't make sense. That's a very real. I know these are not all the classes that there's other classes. Right. But this is unreal, dude.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Like this is not, that's insane. You know how you don't have friends? You take a friendship class. That's what it should have been why are we taking this class because you guys are going to need some new friends after you tell them you're taking a friendship class well that's like the last comment from casey sherema who's a local comic there's another word that starts with dw it's dweeb i thought of that after aaron talked about his friendship class yeah all right so any other you know any other stuff you guys want to talk about family
Starting point is 00:27:50 members that mind that are not here no more is there any fun surprises you guys are gonna you know throw at me uh i thought my grandfather left a comment i thought he that was the last thing he did was he goes i feel like my grandson's gonna have a podcast one day and they go what's a podcast and he goes you will see yeah he put a kill switch put a kill switch that's another really funny one kill switch to call wills there was a local guy who just died and he left his dog five million dollars yeah on the kill switch yeah did you hear that story i just saw the headline i don't know yeah yeah how does that work well he has a caretaker and they got five million dollars worth of money to take care of the dog oh really yeah and then who gets it
Starting point is 00:28:36 after the dog dies because i'd be watching that dog i know i know i don't know yeah it's a good question the dog's gonna have to set up his own yeah kill switch yeah you know and the dog left it to the cat and you're like oh no and then they they gotta just keep killing all these animals you go over his house it's like a zoo worth of animals and you're like dude i'm never this guy's just slaughtering animals like just trying to get this five because eventually it goes to him the work i had to put in i don't know if it was worth it to be honest i mean i have just you see go to the driver front yard it's just all humps and like really buried yeah but he puts them out and they're like what's over there it's like an elephant like he goes he had
Starting point is 00:29:19 an elephant he only left him 200 grand for some reason elephant couldn't count uh yeah that's uh i did see that so uh all right this week uh uh so we were we're going to talk about video games i uh you know because i was i was watching like uh the eric that made the the audio that we posted on he made it uh music or whatever what is it our auto tune of the podcast yeah it was awesome yeah it was really good yeah and then uh that's how bored he was yeah he goes he kept he showed me that he's doing it and i was like and he goes yeah there's a lot going on yeah you need some stuff going on dude like he had some downtime and he just he's got a whole little studio set up where he cuts his hair.
Starting point is 00:30:07 But it was great. It was very funny. But Eric was watching Call of Duty live stream of video games. And I mean, there might be a lot of people listening to this that their kids are doing that and they don't know. My cousin Caleb, my nephew Caleb, I mean, he's all about it. He does Twitch and whatever. I don't even know really what it is, but he sets it up.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I mean, dude, they're having millions of people or billions. Caleb, you said billions, right? How many people are watching this stuff? I mean, at a time, yeah, you're looking at billions. Dude, it's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt y'all's billions. Dude, it's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt y'all's podcast.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yeah, that's Aaron's guest. Yeah. Welcome to Aaron Land, Nate. Wow, we've got a special guest right now. Nate Bargetti on the line. How you doing? Welcome to Aaron Land. Yeah, I mean, it's just the world of video games.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Because, I mean, it was nothing. Video games were nothing. I remember, do you remember your first video game? I think we had an atari and then i got sega was the first like one i remember getting after that i'm pretty sure we had an atari and 64 yeah that was your first yeah that's crazy that was a big deal when that came out yeah uh huh what did you guys throw a tennis ball against the wall? We had, that was actually the first video game. It's called Tennis for Two.
Starting point is 00:31:33 We had an Atari. Yeah. Like most things, we got it like a year after everybody else did. To the point where I remember we went back to school after Christmas break, and our teacher made us go around the room and tell everybody like what did you get for christmas and i was embarrassed to tell it because everybody else got it last christmas oh yeah and i like said it under my breath like the last thing because i didn't want people to know that i got a tar yeah because everybody got it late got it very late yeah
Starting point is 00:31:57 and that's i mean besides that i didn't play video games my freshman year in college my roommate had uh tecmo bow Yeah Tecmo Super Bowl And I remember If you had Bo Jackson You could pretty much Be unstoppable Unstoppable You could run back and forth
Starting point is 00:32:10 You would just run Yeah You would run it I mean you would just You would go to the goal line And then turn around And run back And then keep
Starting point is 00:32:19 You're just that much faster Than everybody Yeah And shiftier Yeah was it Bo Jackson Or it was Or I don't know If it was like a code or something.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Maybe it was just if you used Bo Jackson. I think he was just the end. He was just the end. And so you could just go back and forth. And I mean, but you could go all the way to the end zone, come back to the end zone. I mean, you could run around the entire length of the game and just never score because they could never catch you. You would just be, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah. If you got tackled, you were a loser. Like you just ended up doing something that you walk yourself into it was there a stigma for for people that were really into video games when you guys were in high school and stuff was it considered like a thing that nerdier people do was there any of that or was it kind of everybody was playing them well i grew up as i did for my research in the golden age of arcade video games. Okay. From like, uh, late seventies to early eighties.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Yeah. And that's when all the big arcades, I mean, arcades just blew up. And I remember like even grocery stores, they all had like Ms. Pac-Man or something like that. Like in the,
Starting point is 00:33:18 when you walk in, I remember going to my mom and she'd be shopping. I just want to stay. If I had a, she'd give me a quarter, I'd play it. Even if I didn't have a quarter, I would just watch someone else play yeah and that was just a normal thing just watch people you don't know play it and it was just that was twitch back then
Starting point is 00:33:34 looking back at some guy looking over his shoulder like what are you worried about man you're gonna turn and he's like i'm just just enjoying it. And he just there. I remember going to you could go to Walmart and they would have like, you know, Street Fighter and all those video games in the main engines. They didn't have that anymore. Then like in Walmarts or some Walmarts do. They have a little little section over there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I don't know if that's true. I've seen that before. Yeah. Yeah. They got a couple it's not the main attraction yeah but there's stuff going on yeah i don't know that you know the little room where they have like a the layaway counter is one one little room over there i don't i if you wouldn't have started describing i might have believed you now i don't the layaway counter i'm not making this up does walmart have layaway which walmart are you talking about any of them dude i don't know dude yes why do you think walmart has
Starting point is 00:34:30 layaway i don't know i've been to walmart who had kmart had layaway like a layaway thing walmart has layaway still i mean i'm pretty sure man i don't. I thought that was something I grew up. Yeah. Yeah, I don't. I mean, maybe some like middle of nowhere Walmarts. I don't think your mainstream Walmarts are the ones that are frequently traveled. I think you find it like a laundry mat or something. Retro, like video games. Yeah. Tacoma Comedy Club, the green room has the
Starting point is 00:35:05 green room has video games and then add them there put them in there and uh and then they and they have and there's arcade bars they have an arcade bar there yeah uh and so like that's kind of a there's one here in nashville and midtown yeah yeah that's a cool spot let's say yeah it's always weird kung fu kung fu uh kung fu kung fu Yeah. Did we call it Midtown growing up? No. No. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I've always, everything's downtown. Yeah. Everything's downtown. Or maybe West End. West End is Vandy. Yeah. Okay. But then everything's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Midtown is very confusing to me. Yeah. When someone says that, I'm like, I don't even consider that an area. Like that was not, like growing up, you just didn't, it was going to Vandy. It wasn't its own section. It was almost on the way to Vandy. And there was buildings there, but there's car dealerships. There just wasn't.
Starting point is 00:35:52 It's very confusing to me that someone's like Midtown. I'm like, what? Yeah. Yeah, I remember going. So I remember we'd go to the Walmart and then we'd play video games there. I don't know. I thought it's something, I don't know. I thought it's something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Did, if you, what was I going to say? All right. Was it about the Bellevue Washington Comedy Club? No, it was, I was thinking about a video game,
Starting point is 00:36:15 an old video game that would be the first one you play. Go ahead. All right. So according to the Entertainment Software Association, three fourths of all U.S. households have at least one person who plays video games. And by the end of this year, it's projected that 2.7 billion people, about a third of the world, will play video games.
Starting point is 00:36:36 It's wild. So I play PGA 2K1, a golf game. So I play that a lot. But that's a golf game. So I play that a lot. But that's a golf game. I love it. And, you know, Call of Duty, I was always like, I liked going to the campaign. I didn't like online stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:54 So I think I'm too old for online stuff. I don't, I'm not a big fan. I don't, I don't want to talk to strangers. I don't want to talk to people I don't know. I don't want, you know, the little bit I've done it, you just get yelled at by kids. The language in these things are wow. I mean, wow. It's just a zoo that goes on in there. And so that was never, never fun to me. Like I, and I wasn't introduced to video games in an online world. So it was a new thing I saw where I think people that now, you know, my daughter plays Roblox.
Starting point is 00:37:27 That's online. And so like they're just used to, you know, which I think it all adds to like it makes people not feel like people are humans. Yeah. Like you're just talking. I mean, the people that talk crazy on a thing, you're like you're talking to another human. Yeah. And it makes them like, you know, it's like it makes them like their interactions are not good with people because they're like social media yeah yeah i don't think so you know they always would say like all this
Starting point is 00:37:52 violence was like not good that you're blaming on video games and i always thought i mean there's probably a little bit of these video games like you can't you know like they would always blame any kind of school shooting or something like that and then they would make fun of it like what are you blaming on video games so this shouldn't be video games you're like i mean it's a kid that's 15 that's just playing for nine hours just shooting people in a game let's just let's not just throw it off the table like it's an insane world like this person doesn't in virtual reality is going to end up getting where you're now that's all you see like it's it's like uh i don't know, I'm not blaming it on video games,
Starting point is 00:38:27 but it's like, I'm sure we could talk about it. You know, I'm sure there's a conversation that could be had. Right. You know, it's pretty crazy. I did research, and there's studies that say it definitely contributes, and then there's another one that will say, I mean, you can find anything to back your argument. Well, that's true with anything on the internet.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah. But there's just research that shows both things. Yeah, I could see it being, yeah, I mean, it's, you know, I played Call of Duty, I liked campaign mode
Starting point is 00:38:52 and I would always do just the campaign and that was it. I never did online. Halo was big. Halo was probably the biggest one. That was the first
Starting point is 00:39:00 gigantic online, big one. Yeah. My buddy was on it. He might, my buddy Kenny was ranked high on it. He buys, actually, old pinball machines. But he'd always be ranked very high.
Starting point is 00:39:14 He played college football, which is coming back. Yeah. I would probably buy college football. That was very fun. Not Notre Dame. Did you see that? Oh, really? Why?
Starting point is 00:39:23 Notre Dame, they're saying not until their athletes are compensated for their likeness being used. So they might not be in the game. I thought they are now. I don't know. I don't know enough about it. I saw Notre Dame will not be in the game. Yeah. Which is a little upsetting.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. It's that music they play during the game. They don't have lessons to it. Yeah, yeah. That's right. Yeah. Did you ever see the virginia tech opening oh the what they do when they come
Starting point is 00:39:49 out and play it's maybe the coolest it's the coolest yeah yeah i mean we can't play because it's music but they play metallica yeah enter sandman enter sandman and there's a youtube video of it and you watch them following the team out of the tunnel when someone pretty amazing someone like doesn't like sports i'm just like just go to that and then leave that's the crazy it's they you see them walk they walk over from like the locker rooms and they come through and they're just start playing here and say man the whole crowd is like going i mean dude it's the greatest thing i've ever seen i like i want to go to a game to experience that. It's Thursday night usually, too. That's their thing. At night? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:26 It's awesome, man. I mean, you would be like – just to feel that energy, dude. When they open back up, I would definitely go back. I want to go to a Virginia Tech game just to see that. The two coolest I've seen in person – have you been to an Auburn game before when that eagle swoops around? That is pretty awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:44 You know who went to auburn felix yeah yeah he did yeah yeah sure he did yeah yeah the other one was florida state when the seminal comes out on the horse and takes a spear and sticks it in the 50 yard line it's pretty amazing yeah i was like i hate florida state and i was there i was like this is pretty amazing. Yeah. I was like, I hate Florida State. And I was there. I was like, this is pretty awesome. Yeah. They're still big rivals. Yeah, they do. One of the biggest rivals in America.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Florida State Notre Dame. That's a Nick Novicki comment. He says, we're on the bus. You know, Florida State Notre Dame
Starting point is 00:41:17 guys start tonight, big rival. And I was like, I don't know if they, I don't think they're, I mean, they're two major teams. But I don't, I don't know if they're. You've played they're – I mean, they're two major teams.
Starting point is 00:41:26 But I don't know if they're – You've played like three times in 30 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And boys, getting after it. Notre Dame, La Tech, noon, Friday. You guys want to check it out? Noon on a Friday. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah. All this is – so what's in the app sorry all right so the very first video game you've already kind of accused me of it and you're right tennis for two yeah it was called like pong it's pong before pong basically this was 1958 58 it was just some computer site this guy that just created it i I mean, there were some before that. There was Bertie the Brain back in 1950. That was a tic-tac-toe where you played against Bertie. Oh, just on the computer.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yeah, that was like at the Canadian... I mean, what is a computer? It's the size of a bus. There's Tennis for Two right there. Yeah. A nice ergonomic controller right there. Yeah. That was the first game created solely for entertainment purposes,
Starting point is 00:42:27 not academic. They just made it for fun. The controller looks like a toaster. I mean. Yeah, it's very, oh, wow. See, I mean, you can tell what's going on there. You can see it. You would definitely have to explain it.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I don't know how you hit. It's like an Etch-a-Skip. It does look like an Etch-a-Skip. Where it's like you're spinning that thing. Yeah. It's a two-minute video on this? Oh, come on. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:42:54 This game's brutal. And you're like, how long is it? Two minutes? You're like, yeah, just show me a picture of it, dude. Or maybe a boomerang. That's about all I can handle of watching this. And then you see young Brian just over there just watching. Over their shoulder just standing there waiting.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Over their shoulder. So this is the first ever. This is like the first ever. Nobody's even thought of just the idea of a video game. This is like the first ever one, huh? I mean, that's what is widely considered. Space War came out right after it in 1962. It's the first video game to be installed
Starting point is 00:43:30 on multiple computers. You couldn't buy it, but multiple... If you found a computer. Where would you have to go? NASA? No, it was at MIT. The guy who invented it was at MIT. I mean, that looks pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:43:46 This is the game? Yeah. What are you doing? The game features two spaceships in a dogfight while maneuvering in the gravity well of a star. I mean, for 1958, I mean, 1962, that's pretty good. I think that if you played this game, your grandfather would come in and hit your TV because he thinks it's broke. Like that's what you would do.
Starting point is 00:44:11 My grandfather, Bob, would just come in and just boom. Something wrong with that? You're like, no, it's a video game. It's one of the first video games. Technology through the roof right now. But that's like the game that put video games on the map there's a couple the first arcade video game was called computer space it was kind of similar 1971 um the first home home video game console was the magnavox odyssey 1972 came with is that what is that
Starting point is 00:44:45 sorry this is the sounds of a computer space arcade oh what does it sound like I mean it sounds like a good time and there's probably not a mute button and you gotta listen to that I mean can you again I'm impressed with it look at that
Starting point is 00:45:04 Brian's like man these graphics are pretty good. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're... I could play that right now. Yeah, I'm not... I would be impressed at the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Having to listen to that, just... That sound. Even at the time, like five minutes in, you're like, all right, can we... You're like, can we... Is there a volume button? Do they even... They don't even know that word yet. They go, is there a noise button that's noisy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:33 And that one, that's Galaxy Game. That's the other first one. That came out the same time. And that's on exhibit at the Computer History Museum. One of them still. Oh, wow. It's like an arcade. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Galaxy was a, isn't that a big game? Well, different version. Galaga and different things like that. So the first home console where you have multiple games is the Magnavox Odyssey. They had table tennis, ski, Simon Says, analogic hockey, football, cat and mouse.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Some fun stuff here. Submarine, roulette. I mean, roulette makes mean roulette makes sense submarine i don't you know a submarine could be the space thing and you make the screen blue and you're like you're underwater and you're like oh is it the same as yeah we just call submarine and we sell them separately what is that it's It's the same as computer space. Do you know, do these things come preloaded with all these games, or are the games bought separately like they are today? It came with them, I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:46:33 So all these just got them preloaded into there. Well, I mean, they had different cartridges that you put in. How much would one of these cost? I don't know how much one of those would cost, but we had different cartridges like Atari's that you put in. If it got too hot, you blow on them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah. Well, that was even Nintendo. The introductory price for a Magnavox Odyssey in 1972 was $99.95. Is that? $99.95. I probably would have said $500 today. I was going to ask you what you think it's equivalent to. Is the equivalent of today like $500?
Starting point is 00:47:11 $600. $600. Wow. Yeah. That's crazy. Which is not far off from what the new consoles are right now. Oh, yeah. I think they're getting nuts.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Yeah, they're $500 now. Yeah. If you can find them. You can't find them anywhere. Yeah. Most people think Pong was like the first video game it was the first really successful game and when it came out for atari in 1975 it like blew everything out of the water see pong is actually like playable yeah yeah those last two games that we watch i don't even understand what's happening on the screen really the tennis one you can tell because you know what tennis is.
Starting point is 00:47:46 But those space games, it's like, what is happening here? You're just spinning around. Well, I guess it was just made for people at home. A guy at his office. A scientist at his office that's like, oh yeah, that's what's going
Starting point is 00:48:02 on. They're making that instead of cancer stuff. You know, like, why don't they go, what'd you do today? Any stuff on cancer? You're like, made a star game. They're like, what's that? Made a what? Made a what?
Starting point is 00:48:19 It's a game you're in space, and you're on a star, and another thing's trying to shoot you. And you're like, oh,'re on a star and you and another thing's trying to shoot you and you're like oh yeah that's cool man uh so cancer's kind of a big deal though you know like i mean so you know whenever you get some time it's not like they just flip a switch it's probably two months on that yeah yeah all right there's some original pong gameplay yeah pong yeah pong was good you can play pong uh target would have a on the floor a pong game you play with your foot and you just wave it you move your foot it's like a sensor you move your foot yeah because i would play with harper like they just have it on the floor at target it's like just fun and you find it hard to believe that
Starting point is 00:49:01 walmart has a pinball machine but target's got interactive video games. Pinball and layaway, I have a hard time believing. They have layaway. I pulled up their website, dude. Look at the layaway at Walmart. It's the layaway season has ended. Yeah. They did it in 1984. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I believe you. An alternative layaway is just still layaway. You can pay later. What was layaway? It was like you're paying later, right? You just pay a little bit at a time? Yeah. By clothes?
Starting point is 00:49:31 No, no, no. I think layaway means they put it away, right? Yeah. Until you can pay later. I wonder if I ask my parents if we put stuff on layaway. It's big around Christmas season, obviously, which is always sad to me. Oh, because you're putting, yeah, you're putting. People buying gifts for their kids and stuff. Yeah. no yeah i would you want to go i mean kid
Starting point is 00:49:50 rock would go uh yeah you went and paid for people's layaway which is very cool at walmart yep oh yeah did you go to walmart i'm pretty sure maybe they've always had to lay away told you aaron i always see like people put uh they always say they go buy people's turkeys yeah thanksgiving and i'm just i just want to know the like what how many did you get because there you go it's that time of year i i think it's just completely made up and they just want to be like i'm doing something because they're making announcements. That time of year, let me know if someone can't afford a turkey and I'll send one over. How many are you sending?
Starting point is 00:50:31 Yeah. How many people on Instagram are going, I know someone that can't, they just want a turkey. I don't know how much a turkey is. I don't know. $15, $20? Probably more than that, but something like that. It's not $1,000.
Starting point is 00:50:50 It's either $15,000 or $1,000. There's some in between there. Not much in between. I don't know. That's the stuff that always drives me. It's the idea of making this big statement. It's like, just do it, man. Just go to a soup kitchen. Be kitchen be like kid rock go in there and eighty one thousand dollars
Starting point is 00:51:09 worth of layaways at nashville walmart yeah look i understand that people can't all go pay eighty one thousand dollars worth of layaway at walmart but it's it's i don't know he just went and did it he didn't announce hey i'm gonna go do that i don't think i mean they find somebody clearly found out well of course walmart lets them know i mean kid rock comes in and pays for it they're gonna they're gonna say the story yeah you're not gonna not say the story i mean you know keanu reeves was always like paying for these hospitals he didn't tell anybody but they find out and then they and the story gets out and And so, I don't know. I just want to see that.
Starting point is 00:51:46 I'm just saying. When people buy these turkeys, I just would love to know. I want, if they're like, none. It's, you know, the way they say it, it's that time of year again. If you guys need a turkey, let me know. If anybody needs a turkey, we will buy you. I'll buy you a turkey. I know Tracy Lawrence, country singer Tracy Lawrence, does a big big turkey giveaway every year downtown but it's with some charity yeah but it's like i understand that yeah given like you're you're yeah it's like i donated this
Starting point is 00:52:14 thing we're doing turkeys if you need one come down and get one right like that kind of thing it's like uh yeah i i just can't you know i don't know all right i think that was a big people are trying to do good things i think that was a big mafia. People were trying to do good things. I think that was a big mafia thing, too. I think the boss of the neighborhood or whatever would give out turkeys to the people at Thanksgiving, and they loved it. The people that they extort. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Yeah. All right. So then the golden age of video arcades hits. 1978, Space Invaders comes on. Cades hits. 1978 Space Invaders comes on. It's the first game where you're regulated
Starting point is 00:52:47 by lives instead of a timer or a set score. Interesting. Wow. So you can keep going gaining extra lives through it.
Starting point is 00:52:55 And it was the first game or one of the... Is that the kid you get stuck behind? Walmart that doesn't lose? So I mean, he would never, he would just keep playing.
Starting point is 00:53:03 I mean, in theory, if you're that good. It gets harder as it goes. Yeah. It's the first one or one of the first ones to track the highest score and keep it on the machine wow which was a big deal yeah if you saw your name on a machine right yeah get the three initials yeah it was the first to include background music during the game played it was a simple four-note loop. Do you want to hear it?
Starting point is 00:53:27 Do you have it? Do you want to hear it, Nate? I guess. It's a little better. That's music? Holly came in. I mean... Maybe there's more only Holly can hear. i mean holly came in and was like what's up i mean she came i mean like we were being invaded by space invaders and there is it happening
Starting point is 00:53:56 it's happening so asteroids came a year later 79 1980 pac-man it was the first video game with power-ups oh um you know that isn't it where like if you eat a one of the big pellets yeah you can get more power okay yeah yeah and the individual ghosts react to players actions before it was just no matter what you did the whoever you're against will do the same thing but the ghost would actually respond to you and it's like ai first time there's like ai in the game that's right centipede pac-man donkey kong frogger miss pac-man all those came in like a three-year period yeah pac-man had a a pattern you could actually beat it if you learned the pattern but miss pac-man didn't because the ghosts were doing semi-random like if you knew a whole where to go you had to have it memorized. Isn't there a documentary about Pac-Man, right?
Starting point is 00:54:46 Or something. Or Donkey Kong. Yeah. King of Kong. King of Kong. Yeah. He was like the best. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Yeah. Yeah. And then 1983, the crash came. Video game crash because there was too many being put out. Low quality games. Nintendo came on the scene in 85. Wait, so the crash just... They were just putting out
Starting point is 00:55:06 so many that people stopped buying them and lost interest in video games. So they had consoles, Atari. Like, so it was Atari. And then
Starting point is 00:55:16 that was in Sega? Or no? Sega wasn't out yet. Yeah. Sega was out. Nintendo came in 85. It came out with Super Mario Brothers brothers and legend of zelda yeah i mean super mario brothers probably is i mean that's that's the that would probably be
Starting point is 00:55:32 most people's is that your first game you're gonna think that like yeah like it's gonna had cousins or friends that had super nintendo it was super mario brothers pretty wild we had i mean that would be below into the thing and you have to i i mean you had to put a pencil on top of the game to keep it down sometimes like the top would be a game would sit and you would just have a pencil on top of it i mean you really got to that's the stuff that i wonder if like kids now are not going to know the weird kind of things you had to do to make something work tvs you had had to do antennas. You had to, if you ever had an antenna, you had to like really mess with it a lot. I mean, it was like, you know, you have a TV back then,
Starting point is 00:56:11 like having a baby. Like you're just always like, you can't sit down. You got to just always, it's going to something, something's going to happen, a cloud goes over. But then Nintendo and stuff, you would have to be, you know, your parents didn't know how to do it. Like now your PlayStationstation if it's it's something buggy it's like something's buggy with it there's not a i don't know if there's
Starting point is 00:56:29 someone's fixing it but nintendo i mean it's like a car like you just had to like just get it i just play this game yeah if i do it right if i put something on top of it it holds it down and kids had to figure that stuff out you just up in your room figuring it out yeah like i haven't played video games in 20 some years and on your bus we were playing It holds it down. And kids had to figure that stuff out. You're just up in your room figuring it out. Yeah. Like, I haven't played video games in 20-something years. And on your bus, we were playing, like, Call of Duty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Oh, dude, Brian playing Call of Duty was so funny, dude. I'm remembering it now. Well, Aaron was just laughing so hard and just destroying me. I'm like, dude, I've never played this. And he's like, I haven't either. Yeah. But you play video games so much that you have intuition, I think. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I played games where the analog sticks control the person on the screen. But that was a new concept to you because you just hadn't played video games in a while. Yeah. When I was a kid, I would play new games and I would know, and I'd get my parents to play with me
Starting point is 00:57:22 and they couldn't figure stuff out. And it'd be new to me too, but just knew the concept yeah duck hunt i do remember how fun it was to get your parents to play with you yeah like when they would play yeah uh duck hunt was big my parents would play duck hunt but you i remember thinking with uh video games that you you know you're i always thought like well i'm never gonna not play like i'm gonna always you know you're i always thought like well i'm never going to not play like i'm going to always you know i'm going to always play like and i think if i had a team like the call of duty online if i could go on with like four guys and we talk and it's like and you i get the idea of it to get really good and you're a team and you're like you know having a mission
Starting point is 00:58:01 you're and you get to talk to everybody and go go over there go over all this stuff yeah uh so i understand like why that's i get why that's fun it is it's very fun yeah uh but i remember thinking like i was like well i'll play video games for the rest of my life and then you do just hit an age and you just kind of don't care and uh i want to say it's maybe in your 30s and then i'm kind of now back playing golf but i just play my little golf i like the golf game uh you know i could go through some other i could get in moods i'll get in moods where i want to play a bunch of video games and then i get then i could not play it for six months yeah we have it on the bus i mean the only reason it's on the bus i mean we have nothing to do but play this video game.
Starting point is 00:58:45 But yeah, you don't. I don't know. It's funny. You do. You just hit an age that you just kind of, as some people do, and you just kind of get You just have to start allocating your time differently. Yeah. You got a kid and a wife and a career and everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:59 And some people do balance that, but you choose to balance it in other ways. I choose, yes. So, I mean, I do real golf. I mean, yeah. So, like, that's the, yeah. So, I mean, yes. If I was into video games, I would make it happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:10 But my desire just went away. Uh-huh. And I'm the greatest average American, so it's probably everybody. It's everybody's desire. I think when you get older, you don't want to. So, I played for, in high school, I played World of Warcraft very seriously. Yeah. I moved to Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:59:28 For that game. Scholarship. I got recruited. Now when I moved, I moved in the middle of high school. So I moved here. I didn't have any friends. I was just summer. I didn't know anybody yet.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Yeah. So I just started playing World of Warcraft. You didn't take that friendship class. I hadn't taken the class yet, so I didn't know how. And I was playing eight to 10 hours a day, maybe more than that most days. And I was in a guild, like you said, like a crew of people that I knew, and I talked to them every day. And one of the funniest things was there's a guy –
Starting point is 01:00:02 you know, there's a misconception that it's all kids playing these games but it is a lot of like professional adults and uh i remember we were about to do a raid and this guy over the team speak we used to use or vent he said uh guys i gotta be right back real quick my kid's gotta give me a birthday present real quick and he leaves and like 40 seconds later he comes back he's all right we're good yeah i'm just imagining this dad being like they're like dad we got a gift for you he's all right i'll be back real quick and he leaves and got a birthday present from his kids oh my goodness thank you so much what were y'all y'all about to do a big thing yeah we were about to raid gruel's lair
Starting point is 01:00:39 you know yeah it was a big moment but could y'all wait for him? I mean... Could you pause? No, you can't pause. In these big MMORPGs, they're called, they're just kind of in a world. So you can't pause it. So you can't just not walk in yet? Yeah, you can just like, let's wait to start maybe.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I don't remember what we were doing exactly, but I just remember a dad pausing to get a gift from his kid is so funny to me you know uh the other thing came in 85 was uh oregon trail oh yeah came in schools we played oregon trail a lot yeah everybody dies in oregon trail from dysentery yeah it's like you'd play this game and just i mean your whole family's wiped out like you're just losing you know and it's kind of a brutal game like you just i mean just everybody's gone have you ever seen organ trail or we just play organ trail oh really yeah y'all had a school i don't know if it was the original version that we were playing but we played a version that looked like this where it's mostly text-based yeah um i don't even think the one we used was color so yeah this was when did this come out
Starting point is 01:01:46 uh 85 yeah so yeah this is in my you're seeing the special one thing i talk about of my generation is i am called the oregon trail generation because i was born uh 79 and we are this was a big game for us uh yeah and you get to play it and go yeah it's crazy and then everybody yeah people just would you play with like a group of friends around you and you put all you all put your own names yeah you played at school you get a little time to play it at school and then yeah i mean i don't really remember i remember really elementary school i feel like i remember you put in the names of everybody that's in your wagon. It would be like a group of us. We'd all be in it. Then one of us would die.
Starting point is 01:02:28 It'd be hilarious. Yeah. Then 89 Game Boy came on and Tetris became one of the best selling games of all time. Yeah, Tetris I never could get. This is so boring.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Do you like it? No. Tetris. I'm not the most mindless kind of gamer. Tetris was a game that I think people just wasting time. It was the first real time waster. I mean, you're putting the boxes in the, you know, after a while, you're like, all right, dude, I don't't want to i can't do this i get what's the game they play on you know candy crush yeah that's zero fun yeah i have zero fun i have a game that i play this uh
Starting point is 01:03:16 baron bike baron it's a motorcycle game and you but you control it you don't have to move the sometimes i always feel as soon as i feel too lazy to move my phone you control it you don't have to move the sometimes i always feel as soon as i feel too lazy to move my phone you know if you play a game where you're like dude i'm not yeah come on just let me have some buttons yeah i'm not gonna ruin my sitting on a plane just next to someone just like huh and just like just sitting like that what are you crazy uh just give me the buttons in this bike bearing game i've went through it i've played i mean thousands of hours of just like probably because i've had it forever they i want them to make a new one and they haven't but it's just a very easy game that
Starting point is 01:03:56 i just i'm going back through it now i it's just a it's a time waste a mindless just a mindless i like mindless stuff but tetris never you know you know, it was, I never loved it. I'm going to try it again. There's a thing called the Tetris effect. You guys heard of this? Oh, yeah. It's when you start playing it so much you start having thoughts, mental images, and dreams about Tetris. Like you'll see a bunch of boxes and you'll start thinking about how to line them up in a certain way,
Starting point is 01:04:23 like on a supermarket shelf, and it like enters your thoughts and you start seeing images of falling pieces. You would think it would inspire a lot more movers. You know, when Tetris was built, you should have been like, and we had just a gigantic amount of the moving industry was through the roof, too many jobs. You know? Because everybody had the Tetris. Because everybody had. Too many jobs. You know? Because everybody had the Tetris. Because everybody had Tetris.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Yeah. And they wanted to stack it. I can pack a car. Yeah. I do real life Tetris. And I'm great at it. You were in the office. You want me to come pack your car?
Starting point is 01:04:57 Are you good at it for real? Do you take pride in it? Yeah. I'm really good at placing stuff. I remember my dad would do that on car trips. He'd be like, everyone just bring your suitcase out and just sit it down. He's like, I'll do it. I'll do it.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Yeah, I'll do it. I'd love it. It's pretty fun. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's an episode of The Office where the white collar guys try to stack the boxes and they don't know how to do it right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:20 There's a special skill to it. Yeah, for sure. Tetris also has some health benefits. PTSD prevention. Studies have shown if you play it after a traumatic event, it blocks some of the recurrent intrusive memories that people are often left with. And if you play three minutes of Tetris,
Starting point is 01:05:38 it can reduce cravings from food, cigarettes, and alcohol. I can tell you for a fact that's not true. Yeah. I play Tetris a lot. And I eat it. And I eat when I... I do everything you just said. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Well, Caleb sent me some of that and he's on Errandland, so it's got to be true. There's also something called game transfer phenomena when people get really out of hand and they start seeing power bars over people's heads.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Oh. That's when they've just lost it. Yeah, man. You're like a... become a homeless person at that heads. That's when they've just lost it. Yeah, man. You're like a, become a homeless person at that point. I mean, you're just in the streets yelling. I mean. So the 90s, that's when the violent games came on. Street Fighter 2 came out in 91.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Mortal Kombat, 92. Yeah, so I remember going, that's when I remember going to Walmart. The Walmart in Hermitage, now it's a Hobby Lobby. Yeah. Old Hickory Boulevard, Lebanon Road. And they had Mortal Kombat. And that was definitely
Starting point is 01:06:29 your parents didn't know what game you were playing. Yeah. Like you're, and Mortal Kombat is now, I'd let my daughter play it after I was stuffed in that seat. No, I'm joking.
Starting point is 01:06:38 But it was like Mortal Kombat was, you know, Street Fighter was just a fighting game. Mortal Kombat, I mean, they had those extra kills. I never was like unreal. was, you know, Street Fighter was just a fighting game. Mortal Kombat, I mean, they had those extra kills. I never was like unreal. There was kids that were unbelievable at it.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I never was like unreal at video games. But they could do everything. That's when the rating system came for video games because of that stuff, the Video Game Rating Council. So now they started giving things T for teens and for mature. And that's when movies started to come out. The mid-'90s, there was a Street Fighter movie, Mortal Kombat, Super Mario Brothers.
Starting point is 01:07:09 You say mature? You say mature? Is that how you say it? Mature? I say mature. Mature? Mature. Do I say mature?
Starting point is 01:07:18 M for mature. That's what I say. M for mature. I say mature. Yeah. You say mature. Mature? Is that what you say he's very
Starting point is 01:07:26 mature i guess i do yeah oh my god i think you would have said that if he hadn't said that right way first no mature it's not a right or wrong i said mature first i said mature before he did that is a legitimate way to say it it's just always interesting yeah if you're sitting in the first class uh lobby of the titanic that's where they go this wine's mature oh wow and then they and then they drink yeah that's what they say that about the wine you don't know dude this is very mature wine this was dude you were down in the with the hobos at the bottom they're talking about this is old money up at the top. You know,
Starting point is 01:08:05 they say mature, they drink their wine. Oh, this is mature wine. I played a video game, Space. Yeah, it's your second Titanic reference.
Starting point is 01:08:13 I think I am on it. Yeah. I got, I know, I just always, that's the only ship I know. If I knew another ship, I would do other.
Starting point is 01:08:21 The love boat? Yeah, not, yeah. Paul Allen? Lusit lucitania cheese is mature i thought you said mature and then you said when you said mature i thought you were like saying a name someone's name you go didn't mature used to play that did you say mature like it was a video like yeah i got to play mature there's a chance i would have just went yeah i played i don't think what was it like a street fighter off like an off street fighter game or something mature too mature i think i say mature yeah mature that's how i've always said it
Starting point is 01:08:56 i'm too mature for your age mature if you're if your kid's acting up you go stop being so immature immature immature is that how you say it? How do you say it? I think about it now. He's overthinking it. Yeah. Stop being so immature. Immature.
Starting point is 01:09:12 I think these kids are going to slap you in the face when you say that. I think that would be a kid that would show zero respect for authority. And there's a chance his parents walk up and they go, what happened? And he goes, he said immature. And then the parents spec and then you're you're like an uh uh uh oh man talladega knights you gonna let him talk to the elder like that yeah i am just screaming i love the way he's talking right now immature immature immature immature you're not saying it wrong it's just i don't hear it very often it's just like a it's a longer walk to get the end of that word the way you say it like it's immature just feels like you keep going where are you gonna stop oh yeah immature is like we're
Starting point is 01:09:57 getting to the point you know it's the same syllables no it doesn't feel like it. Immature feels like a longer... Yeah. Immature feels like, I know you passed the house. There's two houses back. I'm sorry. All right, now we're in the mid-90s. Resident Evil came out.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Oh, yeah. Resident Evil was super scary. It was called Biohazard in Japan. It was the first action game to receive the Mature 17 plus rating. It was Mature? Mature.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Yeah. Sorry. Say it however you feel, man. Do whatever you want. It's your life, man. What about Manure? Did you go Mature like my newer mature manure my newer uh the resident evil franchise sparked the revival of the zombie genre it was uh i remember playing resident evil i mean it was scary like you played at night
Starting point is 01:11:02 and then you it was like i can't do this, dude. It's too much. We've got the PS4 VR and we have the Batman game. First night I played it, it was two in the morning. I'm up here. It's just dark.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I had to lift my goggles up a couple of times. It's a lot. From Batman? Yeah, I could show you. Because you're in the Arkham Asylum, aren't you? Yeah. Like an insane asylum. You're in an insane asylum.
Starting point is 01:11:32 I mean, I'm sure we're going to talk about VR, right? I'll wait. So you don't know where stuff is. And when you look around, you've put it on, right? The whole world is there. And so I'm up here alone in the dark. It's 2 in the morning, and I'm just afraid I'm going to pull down something and something's going to jump out at me.
Starting point is 01:11:57 And then some stuff does jump out at you. I mean, it's crazy. And they got other games where you're riding a railroad train, and it's just like you're going through like a haunted house and like there's people running at you with stuff it's wild dude it's crazy all right now we're to 2000 playstation 2 comes out it becomes the best-selling game console of all time yeah do you have a ps2 i did and was there a playstation yeah there was a one too the ps1 ps1 and it was the first disc.
Starting point is 01:12:26 PS1 was the disc. And then you just skipped over it. First one I remember, yeah, was the PlayStation. Well, I mean, PlayStation 2 was so big. PlayStation 1, I think, was gray. And the circle was on top. PlayStation 1 was almost, it was white. PlayStation 1 was. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Maybe gray. Yeah, I don't know why you got to just be different. I mean, why do you? I mean, there's a gray one. I remember it being white. Look, I mean, what do you call that color? I think that's a good compromise between what we just said. No, that was like a.
Starting point is 01:12:55 I think that's half gray, half white. The main one was gray. How is that? What do you mean it's not the main one? It's the main one? That's not the main one. No, look at that. That's bigger.
Starting point is 01:13:10 That's like a travel one like that's a special playstation one launch yeah it's great if you're listening it's off white you're right i mean i don't think calling that white is crazy compared to it's black no no no you can't not the places when it's gray it's it i'm colorblind and i know it's gray yeah yeah in what way are you colorblind you can't. Not the places where it's gray. I'm colorblind, and I know it's gray. Yeah. In what way are you colorblind? You can't tell white and gray. Yeah. But besides that, he's good.
Starting point is 01:13:35 I forget whatever. I mean, if I do a colorblind test. Red. Where you do reds, greens, I have trouble with, browns. Being colorblind, I know that's gray. I guess you're right. That's gray. I guess you're right. That's gray. I guess you're right.
Starting point is 01:13:47 I mean, it's not a guess you're right. Just say it's gray. Like, it's gray. Outside of this situation, if someone walked up and handed it to you, and they go, what color is it? You're going to go gray. You're not going to argue with the guy that it might be white. You had a white one in your head.
Starting point is 01:14:02 What I mean is I don't think it's crazy to call that one white, especially when the PlayStation 2 was black. It's insane to call it white when it's gray so i don't it's not that it's it's it's it's pure insanity to go like look it's not pearl it's not pearl white but it is a shade of white for sure it's gray there's got to be a description of it if you're listening at home it. If you're listening at home, it's off-white. If you're listening at home, yeah, it's white. If you're listening at work, it's gray. Everybody's listening.
Starting point is 01:14:34 I like it. Oh, boy. If you're in the room... I'll keep going while you look. So, 2001 is when the Xbox came out. Yeah. It was unveiled by Bill Gates and The Rock, a consumer trade show. So long ago.
Starting point is 01:14:52 The Rock has been famous. Yeah. I was kind of surprised. What was it? 2001. 2001. Slightly delayed for its release because of 9-11. Came out in November 2001.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Also, right after 9-11, Grand Theft Auto 3 came out in november 2001 also and right after 9-11 grand theft auto 3 came out i think i remember this with the trade towers in it or gone no that wasn't this one no uh but they had carjacking murder and prostitution yeah and they got blasted because it was right after 9-11 and people just didn't think it was good taste did you find it i did i found out and like most things in life it's more complicated than we gave it credit for. Not according to Nate. There is an original console called the PlayStation that was gray. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:33 And then in July of 2000, they redesigned a slim version of it called the PS1 that was white. Yeah. So these are the two. So the first one is the gray one is the one i'm talking about the gray one's the one you're talking about that's the one that that's the playstation one that's what i said from the get-go right that's the playstation i was talking about the ps1 yeah but which is that you tell me that's not white yeah but i've never even seen that dude that's like that's that's not the one that no one thinks of on earth when they think PlayStation 1.
Starting point is 01:16:07 They don't go, oh, yeah, the mini version they sold before they came out with the PS2. No one thinks of that. Okay. Maybe when you guys, you grew up with money, so maybe you guys did. I'm saying if you, on the other side of the tracks where I lived, and we weren't all just going to Notre Dame taking friendship classes, and you're in the hard knocks of life.
Starting point is 01:16:25 We had a gray one that was bigger. I think this is the one we had actually too. Did you walk over it with your pocket into your friend's house? You just had – that's how small it was. I'll bring my PlayStation over. It's the white one. The white one or the gray one? No, they're both.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Oh, you had both. They're both white. Yeah. That's very mature of you. Look at that. Look at that look at that mature i've been working out of my head the whole time we're talking yeah uh 2005 is when guitar hero comes out dude yeah so i mean i like our i never never got into it i guess i was like starting to trail off the video games in this band but 2005 i was i mean i started comedy yeah you were doing
Starting point is 01:17:02 comedy i was doing comedy every night yeah so Guitar Hero was huge it became an alternative to karaoke New York City bars start doing Guitar Hero 20% of children in the UK began learning
Starting point is 01:17:13 to play a real instrument after playing Guitar Hero oh wow that's cool no way how do you get that stat how I don't know
Starting point is 01:17:20 on earth does that stat come about 20% of children in the U.S.A. start playing instruments because of Guitar Hero. Where, I mean... You don't believe stats unless they back up your argument. I always say it's a stat, so who knows?
Starting point is 01:17:40 But you believe that we're just spouting off information. Theoretically, a music store were able to compare revenue from the year before guitar hero came out in the year after it came out and they could compare oh what caused this surge probably guitar hero right but you would say there was this there was a surge of people buying like you would say we we did better business after guitar hero you would say 20 of did better business after guitar hero you would say 20 of kids start i wouldn't just flat out like 20 or 20 of kids you like d is there 20 of kids that's what you're saying you asked every kid you asked every what that's what you went around someone did who asked that 80 of kids did not so uh there's dude how do they get these stats
Starting point is 01:18:22 what do they do honestly that was from wikipedia and so i'll have to go check the reference and i'm not even yeah go look up the reference i would see what what is that reference i don't believe any of it it all is going to go to well this guy said it to this guy said it but i'm just saying when they get these stats who are they asking is there people that want to get asked and then they just multiply it by how many people are there? I don't know. But Guitar Hero and Rock Band, that came on a little bit later, but both of those were big.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Rock Band was the whole thing. Those games used to really frustrate me because I was better at the actual instruments than the game. Yeah. And I remember playing against my friends who couldn't play the instruments. They were killing me. I was like, I can do this for real kind kind of is it well like bragging about that though is that a good thing
Starting point is 01:19:10 like is that you know that's not bragging at all i mean is it you know you don't have trouble with call of duty when i so when i went in to get a samba in real life i could always do that it was super easy not a not a hard problem but i go do Call of Duty. I just can't. I have so much trouble, you know? Would you tell your friends that? Maybe that's why you lost all your friends and had to go start over in a friendship class because you would have to go, hey, you want to play guitar here?
Starting point is 01:19:35 You know what? I can do it in real life on the real things, but I have so hard with this make-believe video game that you guys are good at. Should I keep going, or did you find that stat? Okay. Found the reference to it? I'll keep going while you look.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Okay. 2006, Nintendo Wii came on the scene. Yeah. First time to do that. Sold for $250. Chad Ryden used to have a joke couldn't afford it we don't call it nintendo we we call it nintendo they because we can't afford it that's a great joke yeah um it helped people in nursing homes help people get enough to
Starting point is 01:20:17 get exercise but then it became injuries known as we itis knee, and wee elbow. Oh. So. I never knew. I remember saying that. Who's playing this? Gamers hated it. They were like, this is a joke. Yeah. They never took it seriously. Oh, they never respected it?
Starting point is 01:20:33 No. I remember doing it, but we didn't go buy it. I would play it at someone's house. Someone would have it at their house. And you were like, oh, that's cool. Like, it's fun. It was like you would do it for a couple seconds, and then you're like, all right. Yeah. I had to. I volunteered. We would do it for a couple seconds, and then you're like, all right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:45 I had to – I volunteered. We had to volunteer for my high school to graduate. You had to volunteer a certain number of hours. Yeah. We did that, too. But – I'm sorry. I mean, I don't know if you're trying to imply that you're better than this.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Well, that's why I framed it that way. I didn't want to go – I have a great story. I used to volunteer at this nursing home. Yeah. I could have said it like that. I did nursing. I had a great – I got a fun at this nursing home. Yeah. I could have said it like that. I did nursing. I agree. I got a fun story.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Go ahead. But they got a Nintendo Wii for this nursing home. One of the younger people that worked there. And they're like, this is a great idea. Like, we're going to start to, we're going to get the Wii hooked up. And then you guys can play Wii with some of the people at this nursing home. And dude, they could not, I don't think anybody ever played that they couldn't wrap their head around yeah like what you did on the controller affecting what happened
Starting point is 01:21:31 on the screen like they never got over that yeah i would not be surprised if they'd never figured that out yeah it was just most are probably gone but they're if someone held on i mean they probably figured it out head back there and talk to them. Because they're 140. Yeah. You know, I mean, now, can you imagine them there now with the VR? And you're like, I don't know if you know what old people are. But it's, we learned earlier.
Starting point is 01:22:01 They, so I remember we did it. We would go to nursing home and, uh, for ours for a senior and, uh, go to the one, uh, right across from the Hermitage steakhouse, right across from the Hermitage, but the Hermitage steakhouse, there's a nursing home right there. And I remember we, I remember going downstairs to talk to the old people in there and the door was like a locked, like you're walking into a bank, like vault, like it was a big closed locked door. And I remember just being like, why are they locked? Are they in prison? Are these the bad ones? Like it didn't make sense. And so we'd all be down there, you're talking to them and stuff. And then when it was time for us to leave, you would start walking. And some of the older people knew when we were going to leave. So you would see them get up and start walking to try to time out with us. So they have to be, you know, we're like, all right, 10 minutes left.
Starting point is 01:22:51 You see like someone get up and start heading to the door because that's how long it takes them to get to the door. And then you would do it and you'd have to like just get out like trying to keep a dog back. Like, sorry. They're trying to escape. I'm trying to get out. They're called runners. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:04 They don't want to be in there. So it's not to keep you out. It's to keep them in. It's to keep them in. It's to keep, yeah, because I think they would, some of them don't want to be in there. It's kind of crazy. I mean, you hate it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:14 I'm the opposite. I think I would love to know a person at home, and I can't wait. I can't wait to go. I used to, I did this on stage. I might be trying it again. But the idea of it, of just going, you get to go hang out with people your age. They have three meals a day.
Starting point is 01:23:32 You just, I mean, you know, it depends on where you go. If you go to the nicer, not a nice one, I understand that it's miserable. And if you go to some of them, they're real communities. Yeah. But I guess, yeah, that's the- Retirement community and nursing home are two different things. Yeah. But yeah. communities. Yeah. But I guess, yeah, that's the. Retirement community and nursing home are two different things. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:45 But yeah. Right. Yeah. 2008, Grand Theft Auto 4 became another big problem. You could drive drunk in this game.
Starting point is 01:23:53 So, mothers against drunk driving petitioned to have the game's rating changed. Yeah, Grand Theft Auto was a huge, huge game.
Starting point is 01:24:03 I mean, they just, yeah, they just did whatever. Got a lot of trouble. It's still going. Yeah. How many are there?
Starting point is 01:24:08 There's tons. All these, there's tons of them. There's five, right? GTA V was the last one. I made one. It's an Air and Land quick episode. Air and Land quick episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Just hop in. A little micro-sode. Air and Land. Yeah. The next year, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2. Another big problem. The no Russian part of the game where you're CIA operative and you undercover a terrorist organization and you're required to carry out a mass shooting at Moscow airport.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I played that one. I didn't know that. It's crazy. I played it. And the campaign mode. So I love the campaign modes. I would buy the new Call of Duty and play the campaign mode. I think I just did the last one i did that i just always enjoyed that uh and i would never
Starting point is 01:24:50 like when they would some of them they would do like old you'd go like old-timey you know like you'd be like in uh nazi germany or something or world war ii or one and all this and like those i didn't like love but this any sniper one was the best. And then that one, I played that where you go in. I mean, they ask you before, like, here's a part. You can either skip it or not skip it. And, of course, you're like, well, what is it? And you go in. I mean, it's just, you know, you're just having to shoot up people at an airport
Starting point is 01:25:20 because you're in with this terrorist group. And even in the game, I would just still shoot because because if they see you not shooting then they turn on you so you kind of have to shoot yeah but i would just kind of i think i would shoot like around i would shoot around people and i just never really shot like this a bunch just even in the game even in the game it feels great it feels yeah it feels awful and then you're and so you would just do it that's good that that's in you. Yeah. That instinct.
Starting point is 01:25:48 I play this. My favorite game of all time. I play Red Dead Redemption 2. Yeah. Soda. It's a big soda lover. It's such an unbelievable game. I mean, I would be 100 hours in and be still amazed by it.
Starting point is 01:26:00 What is it? It takes place in the year 1900 in what is essentially america in the wild west you're in this gang and you're an outlaw and you can you know you're rewarded for holding people up and killing you know and being an outlaw yeah and there is part of me even though they're you know i feel weird yeah robbing an innocent woman yeah you still did it and they're this is like this is like a jeffrey donner interview afterward he goes you know i never liked it that i did it you know i didn't want to the voice in my head is it like uh grand theft auto open world open world yeah, open world was the, I want to be like.
Starting point is 01:26:46 I love open world. What does that mean? You can do whatever you want. Grand Theft Auto was maybe the first open world. Was it? I don't mean to jump into Aaron Laney. It was one of them. One of them?
Starting point is 01:26:57 One of the first ones. Yeah. But GTA and Red Dead are made by the same company. That's a rock star, right? Yeah. So you could go anywhere. You can do anything. You're literally just in a huge world, and you can go wherever you want in it.
Starting point is 01:27:10 And so what's the end? There's no really end to it. There is a main storyline that you progress through as you do certain things in the world. Yeah. But it's up to you how you want to get there. You can spend as much time as you want doing all these little things. Yeah. you how you want to get there you spend as much time as you want doing all these little things yeah yeah i remember uh so soda loves red dead i think i believe it's right he's big in cwa soda dan soda uh he has comedian there's somebody blind to know he had an hbo special uh and one
Starting point is 01:27:39 of my best friends he did so soda plays ncaa football still plays oh yeah this is uh he loves Red Dead we made favorite he still plays NCAA football and he's a coach and dude Soder is uh starts joining these other teams and so you can recruit you know you can do all that stuff and dude he is in and he he's on I mean it's been forever but he he went to Vanderbilt, and he called me and he goes, did you get hired by Vanderbilt? And then he built Vanderbilt up. He goes into these programs and just builds them all up and has to recruit.
Starting point is 01:28:14 And, like, it's a story. You know, because you're creating a storyline in your head when you're kind of doing that. I do it with the golf game now. I can still play it. And, like, I'm trying. I'm on the tour. Did you make yourself in the game?
Starting point is 01:28:28 Yeah. And then I'm on the tour. And so i'm going through the tour i'm playing it and you got to make these you know sometimes you don't make cuts uh especially the hard level where you're playing it is super hard to play it i got in the when i played on the easier level i was like a plus 15 handicap which would be you would be five times greater than tiger woods was ever not i don't know five times but he was like we'd be so much you tiger woods would be a joke about how good this person would actually be in golf because it's a video game and then i started playing on the harder level and dropped to now i'm like a plus six handicap which is now i'm like a regular golf pro. Like you're just like a,
Starting point is 01:29:06 like if you were, if I was a professional golfer, like that's kind of the good, the best ones are at that level. But it was crazy that that much of a drop off with just how hard it is. Yeah. Uh, also 2009 angry birds and Farmville came to the two big,
Starting point is 01:29:20 huge games. 2009. Yeah. I did anger words. Some, uh, farm. What was the other one? huge games. 2009. Yeah. I did Angry Birds some. Farm, what was the other one? Farmville.
Starting point is 01:29:32 I think my mom, my aunt, my sister, my grandmother, I think they all played that. Time Magazine called Farmville one of the 50 worst inventions of the decade. Really? Why? It says it's mindless chores on a digital farm. There's like nothing to it. Yeah, I know, But it was huge.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Yeah, but Tetris was huge. Why don't they call that mindless? You wrote the Farmville effect? Was there the Farmville effect afterwards? I didn't attack Tetris. And then, I mean, why would they attack it? That's almost, you could go, who wrote that? Time Magazine.
Starting point is 01:30:08 You could almost, that was the moment media got real mean. I bet it is. Why would you write an article about that? How many people are playing Farvel? Everybody in the world, who cares? And they're going, one of the worst inventions of life. It's mindless. One of the 50 worst inventions in recent decades that's what they called it right why would you this is the moment the media turned could be when
Starting point is 01:30:32 they went after farm that just i'm just saying well there why is why would you write that mean of a thing you why don't you say that about tetris what is tetris this game changing people are seeing blocks in a grocery store like a bunch of turns people into maniacs and then farmville you're going to go after one of the worst inventions in a decade it's a i don't know what it is it's a dumb game that's crazy right no maybe they wrote that about i think i just lost my mic he lost good what oh yeah i'll unplug it a little bit there i always thought my mic was off yeah uh did you find out of 20 of kids and i couldn't find that stat i did there you go i couldn't find it all right i'll find it for i mean it was on wikipedia i'll find it and yeah i'm curious how they did that i don't know they don't do it they just make it throw it out and no they and we're
Starting point is 01:31:31 the first people to go hold on a second there's look into that there's who is who are looking these up i'll research it who's looking this stuff up it's got to be us it can't be it can't no one's going through you can't ask these kids, if I'm supposed to take everything as a broad kind of like, you know, probably 20%, like it's kind of a broad stroke, like, oh, we're just guessing. It's fine. But they don't write it like that. They write it as like it's 20% of kids.
Starting point is 01:31:56 And then, like, you know, that's the thing that I have a problem with is just going like, who is figuring these stats out? Well, they didn't start doing that until after Time Magazine went after Farmville. Yeah. That's when it all went down. That's a crazy 2009. Why would you write that about a dumb magazine? Worst invention?
Starting point is 01:32:15 Did you ever see The Newsroom? Did you ever see that show? No. I watched a little bit. Aaron Sorkin? I know what you're talking about. Who made The West Wing? Jeff Daniels.
Starting point is 01:32:22 With Jeff Daniels? Yeah. It's about a news organization. They have a blog, and they write this article called, like, The Seven Most Overrated Movies. And one of the characters comes in and is like, why are you, why not the most underrated movies? Why do you always got to do that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:40 And I think about that when I see articles like that. Yeah. It's just like, what's the point of 50 worst? Well, that's what I mean. That was the point where i'm saying i went around to that time was when they started just attacking instead of being right in the under under you know tetris is this amazing thing everything's amazing and now it all becomes an attack and being like it's any and then it started when did dane cook's fall happen when did Dane Cook's fall happen? When did people turn on Dane Cook?
Starting point is 01:33:05 Why did you figure this math out? When did Dane Cook, when did people turn on Dane Cook? Dane Cook was the first one that people turned. He's the greatest comedian. He was very funny. And he got too popular. And then they all just started saying, this guy, he stinks. And they all started making fun of him.
Starting point is 01:33:18 Family guy made fun of him. Everybody made fun of him. No reason. No reason, except he got too popular. Everybody loved him. No reason. No reason except he got too popular. Everybody loved him and then they didn't just, I don't know, not go to his shows. They actively attacked him. They actively tried to keep going after him. I think part of that is it feels nice to kind of be in on a joke where you're trashing something. I think people like that. I know, but I don't feel like.
Starting point is 01:33:46 But I'm saying that's the mentality that goes in, why people jump on this stuff. Yeah. Why they jump. One guy was like, it's funny to make fun of Nickelback. And then everybody just does it. Yeah. Because it feels good to be, to look down on something together.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. That's where a guy like you that robs people in Red's redemption and a guy like me that shoots up in the air. Because I'm before. Hey, I defended hedge fund managers.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Everybody just attacks them. We don't know what they do. All right. But this will counter it. 2011, Minecraft is released. Becomes the best-selling video game of all time with 200 million units sold the guardian which is a uk publication classified minecraft is the best video game of the 21st century i mean we're kind of early here and forbes gave minecraft a special mention to list the best video games of the 2010s i played minecraft i mean it just doesn't make
Starting point is 01:34:42 sense to me but i i just don't get it. So I don't – I wouldn't – to me, it would never be that. But, you know, I know my nephew played it. It's just not my – I don't understand it. I don't know what it is. What are you, building a world or something? Yeah. Is that it?
Starting point is 01:35:02 Yeah, I think that's a big part of it. I've never played it. Okay, yeah. It was – there was a very similar game called RuneScape. yeah and he just is that it yeah i think that's a big part of it i've never played it okay yeah yeah it was it was there's a very similar game called uh runescape not runescape what was it no i don't know oh yeah yeah it doesn't matter uh let's be quiet think about it for a little bit let's quiet down you know uh yeah i don't i i would never play uh i would never but i used to love playing sim city and games like that yeah i think about sim city a lot like uh uh think how i'm making him adjust the camera because i moved and like you're gonna do that then i'm like actually
Starting point is 01:35:38 it's not as comfortable as i thought it was so uh just hang on back anytime Anytime I move, I move a lot. I think about SimCity a lot. I'd want to play that again. You create another world, and it's kind of fun. I just think about playing it. I don't think I ever will, though. It's still fun, dude. You play it?
Starting point is 01:36:03 Like two years ago, I went and got SimCity 2000 on my laptop, and I just started playing it again. You start playing it again now? No, I played it for a while. You haven't played it in two years ago, I went and got SimCity 2000 on my laptop, and I just started playing it again. You started playing it again now? No, I played it for a while, and then I was like, I have to cut this out of my life. Yeah, it's too much. Is that when you moved? No, this was like two years. You didn't have any friends?
Starting point is 01:36:16 That's why I stopped playing World of Warcraft. It was like, I can't be this. I can't. And you signed up for a friendship class, and you walked right into Notre Dame University and said, I'd like be this. I can't. And you signed up for a friendship class. And you walked right into Notre Dame University and said, I'd like to go. He goes, I'm embarrassed to even ask this, but is there a class where I can maybe make some friends?
Starting point is 01:36:34 And they go, is there? It's one of our main things. I don't even, I feel dumb even saying that loud. This is certainly a class is there like a class that can make some real human friends fraternity no no no no not that you know like
Starting point is 01:36:54 a sweeter you know like a I'm gonna talk to these guys for a long time kind of class you know and get credit for it you know the people in that class actually did became we kind of became friends you know. And get credit for it. You know, the people in that class actually did become, we kind of became friends all of a sudden. You talked to someone still in that class?
Starting point is 01:37:10 No, all through college. It's like SimCity. I don't talk to them anymore. It's just like your SimCity example. Like, how is it, dude? It's still amazing. When did you play it last? Two years ago.
Starting point is 01:37:19 No, because I played back and played the old SimCity 2000. It's not like I played the new one. Yeah. I'm saying the old game that's 20 years old now is still great you know when people always play old games except you know now you can buy those old video games and go play them mario brothers is the only one that holds up for me that's kind of fun to do i've gone like i always think someone's like i bought a soda takes stuff on the road he always be be like, I bought, I got these games, you got all these old Atari games. Like, I can't, after you see what's out, you can't go back to some, like, Zelda.
Starting point is 01:37:53 You're like, oh, get out of here. Zelda was a huge game. Did you? Legends of Zelda? Yeah. I'm in Zelda. Oh, yeah. On the Nintendo.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Yeah, it was like one of the biggest ever, too. Yeah. Yeah. Let's say the N64, when I was like one of the biggest ever too. Yeah. Yeah. Let's say the N64. When I was in college, N64 was big. Everyone just kind of had an N64 out there. And those games aged so well because the graphics were never meant to be realistic. They were always cartoony.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Yeah. And then you go back to like a PS1 game where they're trying to be realistic graphics. Those just look terrible now. Yeah. But the N64 games still look okay. You they age better yeah all right now we're i mean i was like you're like i mean someone like you like you have someone that works in n64 i'm in the way you were he were like you're the guy that's like trying to sell it to me and the 64-bit processor actually allows you yeah like i'm at game stop i'm like all right man yeah well i just game starts back up by the way
Starting point is 01:38:50 is it uh not all not even close to where i bought in but it made it where's it now is that like 130 the other day up from 50 so we're coming back holding on diamond hands diamond hands still dude you're at dude. You're at 150. You're still. I bought it at 325. So I'm a ways off from breaking even. But you're diamond hands. That's right.
Starting point is 01:39:17 When do you ever, but if you have diamond hands, when do they ever, does it end? Will you sell? For me, never ends. I know. So the money just disappears when it goes to zero, then it's gone. No, I'll sell when it gets to 10,000 a share. When it gets that high. An N64 starts being sold
Starting point is 01:39:31 at GameStop. That's right. Dude, they should do that. I think they do. In 2013, Grand Theft Auto 5 comes out. It becomes the second best-selling game of all time, but more controversy because it's a depiction of women. There's a mission that requires you to use torture equipment in a hostage interrogation.
Starting point is 01:39:48 So he gets upset. Lindsay Lohan sues them because they say a character is based on her likeness. But he got dismissed. Based on all
Starting point is 01:39:56 of our likeness. I mean, you could get any character. A lot of comics would do voices in Grand Theft Auto. Really? I think when you
Starting point is 01:40:04 just pulled up Dane Cook, he was on there for Grand Theft Auto. Oh, was he? For one of them. When was he? Adam Ray did World of Warcraft. Oh, yeah. By the way.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Oh. Should have asked him about it, but I feel like we didn't really hit it off that well. Yeah. Well, you went after him so hard. Yeah. You owe him an apology. 2016, Pokemon Go becomes a big thing. It was April Fool's joke and became a worldwide phenomenon.
Starting point is 01:40:26 So that when people would go find stuff in real life. Yeah. That's augmented reality. Yeah. So they, I remember, you know where I remember seeing people going crazy and finding these Pokemons? Omaha, Nebraska, which I will be at sometime. If you go to my website, I got clubs.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Yeah. Go to, I'll be in omaha but uh i remember being because omaha has like it's upstairs the club as you can walk out like a little balcony and i remember looking down and just watching kids yeah like go try to find pokemons i think kids got hit by cars yeah i was with you on that yeah there's just girls walking around in like a little shopping area yeah did you do it aaron no i never did i never got into pokemon or any any of the uh i don't even know what you call that group of anime type stuff never got into it 2017 fortnight comes on the scene yeah fortnight's crazy... I got some crazy stuff here about it. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:41:26 I mean, it's just how big it is. Netflix CEO told shareholders, in his estimation, the biggest threat to Netflix's continued dominance in entertainment was Fortnite. Fortnite's battle royale became a cultural phenomenon. It was in 2018. Ninja played along with Drake, Travis Scott, Kim.com, and Juju Smith-Schuster, and it broke viewership records for Twitch. How many?
Starting point is 01:41:52 I don't have it on here. That seems like a thing you would – I've got some Twitch numbers coming up, but I don't have it for that. Not the world record numbers? Well, at the time. There you go. You know, I watched a guy this week, deadlift world record. What was it? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:06 I didn't count the plates, but someone told me it was a world record. I had to cram a lot in here. But it led to the inaugural $30 million Fortnite World Cup. Eight numbers. So Twitch, I'll just ignore that. Twitch became a thing in the mid 2010s um and uh 10s oh mid 2010s so like 2015 yeah uh twitch streams have more traffic now than hbo's online service and you in 2015 youtube launched gaming, same type of concept.
Starting point is 01:42:46 And now PlayStation 4 and Xbox One kind of have something similar where you can do it, which led to the big start of eSports when people started watching on Twitch. So this year, Super Bowl had 96 million viewers, which is down because the game was a blowout. But usually Super Bowl has a little bit over 100 million. This last year's League of Legends World Championship had over 100 million so it beat the super bowl again and what is league of legends it's like the biggest of the esports tournaments yeah it's a real-time strategy game oh it's an actual game it's called league of legends yeah league of legends the game is oh i didn't know that yeah oh and so you're watching the what are they what
Starting point is 01:43:24 i don't know it's like is it Call of Duty or is it? No, you're playing Warcraft or Starcraft or any of those games. Oh, I get it. It's kind of like you start out and then, yeah, I never really played League of Legends, but it's a, I don't even know how to describe it. It's like Starcraft in those ways, right? You know, Air and Land?
Starting point is 01:43:44 Yeah, it's top down and every little character has a certain ability, and so you have defense characters and attack characters. You build a team, like Call of Duty, you build that team, you all work together to beat the other team. How many people are playing at a time? It's like 10. Oh, it's not like a – So in that League of Legends that you watch is 10 to 10 best.
Starting point is 01:44:05 Yeah. And they play, they win money? Yeah. You have teams, it's like the Fortnite thing. Yeah. You win like $10 million if you get first place worldwide or something.
Starting point is 01:44:15 So when League of Legends starts, it's the whole world's playing. No. Oh. It's just, it's like a tournament. It's, you know, the NFL, NBA, all that. You have to get invited to it. You got to get in it.
Starting point is 01:44:28 How long does it last? Is it like hours and hours? No, I think it's shorter than that. You can play a bunch of games. Right. It's like 10 minutes? Yeah. Well, no.
Starting point is 01:44:39 Most matches are around 45 to an hour. Oh. Yeah. But 100 million people watch for how long? Or is that just coming and going? Can people hear you? I'm sorry. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:44:51 Maybe a little bit. I'm sorry. You asked the question again. Well, I was just curious. The Super Bowl lasts roughly three or four hours. So in fairness, is League of Legends days where you could tune in or tune out and it still counts as a viewer? No, it's concurrent.
Starting point is 01:45:07 It's all concurrent. So when it hit that 100 million, that meant that, you know, for an hour or two hours, it's a hundred. At a given moment, there are that many people watching it. That wasn't overall. Oh. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:21 So pretty crazy numbers, man. Huh. Yeah. I thought that meant total like people tuning in and tuning out. Esports has become so big that the 2024 Summer Olympics in Paris were discussing making it a sport. They eventually decided that it's premature to make it a medal event. Did you say that without thinking about it?
Starting point is 01:45:42 What did I say? Premature. Yeah. Yeah, so you did say it. What did I say? Premature. Yeah. Yeah, so you did say it. He says it like that. Premature. Yeah. I wouldn't even caught it until.
Starting point is 01:45:52 What are you guys laughing at? It's premature. Premature. Sure. Tour. I'm sorry I don't have perfect dialect like some people. Yeah, I do. Great.
Starting point is 01:46:05 But they say that they're not going to make it. They may make it part of the 2024 Olympics, but it's got to be. It's like saying ideal, you know? Yeah. Did you say ideal? Ideal. Yeah. You say, I got an ideal.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Oh, no. Don't they say, you say ideal. Don't people say that? Ideal? Ideal is its own word. No, I know. But don't people say ideal or ideal? Like they say that ideal ideal is its own word no i know but don't people say ideal or idea like they say it idea idea idea i have an idea like it's like that kind of thing uh that's what matures to me feel like it's like that kind of you're like all right
Starting point is 01:46:36 dude just say i do but you might just say like that but i'm not trying to be funny. It's not a funny thing. It's my Ryan Malone, buddy I grew up with. He says for, how do you say like on a golf course? It's a- Par four. Par four. He says four pars.
Starting point is 01:46:57 He goes, this is a four par or a three par or a five par. That's weird. That's Ryan. But that's different because he knows he's saying it wrong and just chooses to say it like that. I don't think he does.
Starting point is 01:47:08 But you've corrected him. I know, but he still says it like that. And I think he says, I've heard someone else say it like that. And I feel like it's an old way to say it. And so he'll choose the older way that no one does. He'll just say it that way. Yeah. And that's like so mature would be like,
Starting point is 01:47:25 no one says it like that. I'm not saying you are. Yeah. I'm not true. I just, I say a lot of things wrong. All. You know what I say?
Starting point is 01:47:32 I've always struggled with that. Theater. Theater. A movie theater. Yeah. Well, I say theater. I said that a long time.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Theater. Well, with your comedy career, look, you don't have to worry about it. So, uh, yeah. Why is Tom Eggsy so mean? a long time theater. Well, with your comedy career, look, you don't have to worry about it.
Starting point is 01:47:49 Yeah, why is Time Magazine so mean? Oh my goodness. I wasn't like this, too. When we did this podcast in 2008, I was a delight. Oh, these mean journalists. Sorry, I thought of that joke. It's a pretty good joke.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Yeah, don't worry about it, Aaron. I can say club just fine. That's hilarious. That's very funny. The greatest gamers of all time. And again, I just looked up this. I don't know. Faker is by most accounts. I'm looking over at you, Caleb.
Starting point is 01:48:24 The best League of Legends player of all time. He's one of only two people to win the League of Legends three times. He's the only esport player to grace the cover of ESPN's magazine. Ninja is the highest earning gamer. He's got a bunch of endorsements. Adidas, Red Bull, stuff like that. Celebritynetwork.com said he's worth 15 million but it's probably more than that because microsoft tried to uh i was trying to get in 20 to 30 million to leave
Starting point is 01:48:52 twitch and join mixer their streaming platform and he wouldn't do it all right i don't think he did he did oh he did he is he's with mixer yeah well mixer mixer got bought out by facebook and so he went back over to Twitch. Okay. Oh, so he got the money and then got to go back. Yep. They broke contract.
Starting point is 01:49:09 There were like a bunch of contract streamers that they switched off of Twitch. Yeah. And after Mixer got bought out by Facebook. That's awesome. Good for him. That is great. That just shows you that's how much money the,
Starting point is 01:49:22 like, that's so crazy. How much money these things have 20 to $30 million contract that you're like i just give them the money doesn't matter you know that's so much that's so much money yeah and they just like ah it doesn't ah we're good dude you know we're gonna man and then you know and then it's just wow uh caleb sent me this that that Twitch streamers, like those guys have become the new philanthropist. I can't say that.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Philanthropist? Mature. They've raised, last year, $83 million for charities of their choice. A lot of turkeys. The human fund. Yeah, it's the human fund. Money for people. Money for people.
Starting point is 01:50:10 All right, so we're talking about the future of video games now. VR. A lot of people thought it was going to become a big thing the last few years. Here's what they say is holding it back. They say it eventually will. The headset. They say it's too big. It weighs over a pound.
Starting point is 01:50:27 It has to be strapped tightly on your face. And people like to play with friends. And after a half hour of wearing it, you get sweaty and your energy is zapped. So they're trying to come up with more social ways to do VR. That's because it's people that usually you're used to sitting down for nine hours playing a video game. but usually you're used to sitting down for nine hours playing a video game. You're like, God, you just got to stand up for a while and wear a thing that wears one pound on your head. You're like, oh, your neck muscle's getting tired there, buddy.
Starting point is 01:50:54 I mean, you're trying to make a group that is not, is the most non-active group stand up. Yeah, you're going be you're gonna meet with some resentment is that the that's probably not the right word
Starting point is 01:51:09 yeah is it not resentment that's not what I mean maybe that word worked out there's gonna be some resistance
Starting point is 01:51:14 resistance that I wanted but both worked yeah they both do work yeah sometimes you do that you know sometimes it's like when you hit a bad
Starting point is 01:51:22 golf shot sometimes but you still hold the finish and act like that's what you wanted you know Peggy and like when you hit a bad golf shot sometimes but you still hold the finish and act like that's what you wanted you know Peggy in Dallas is like oh golf talk
Starting point is 01:51:29 yeah I forgot about Peggy sorry Peggy I'm gonna start a golf podcast that's on this within Aaron Land it's it airs during this time
Starting point is 01:51:38 and it's just me with my mother-in-law with yes with your mother-in-law and that knows uh uh who does she know?
Starting point is 01:51:46 Brad Fax. Yeah, crazy person. One of the best players of all time. So they're trying to make VR more social. Hyper-reality, it's kind of like an escape game where you go to a warehouse and you play with VR. But the objects in the room are real. So when you reach for something with VR, there'll actually be something there that feels like that object. So it's a combination of virtual reality and real physical props.
Starting point is 01:52:13 You can almost just take off the headset and just do it for real. Well, I think there's some stuff that you can't do. Yeah, an alien trying to drink a cup of coffee, and an alien dressed as a cow shows up. Where are you going to see that, Aaron? It's true. Trying to drink a cup of coffee and an alien dressed as a cow shows up. Where are you going to see that, Aaron? It's true. If you've never done VR, I recommend you.
Starting point is 01:52:33 It's pretty amazing. So I always say with VR, it's the craziest thing I've ever, I feel like I've ever seen. Gasping? I gasped. It was, that was my gasp. It is mind blowing. When you first time and you go do it,
Starting point is 01:52:56 you think you're going to know what it is and then it's not. It's just, even in the waiting room of the lobby, you're looking around and you're in a room yeah uh we have your hands and yeah dude it's bizarre we have a this game plank you walk on the plank it's 50 50 if people can't do it i couldn't do it he couldn't do it uh my wife she just sat down on the ground i went back in the elevator and went back down yeah he wrote a fake elevator you're on carpet you're on car you're standing on a carpet people are touching you because you're you're not you're not in this game and they can't walk out
Starting point is 01:53:29 on this plank uh yannis when he was here i had him do it he walked out then just turned and took off running right into the couch and just hit the couch and flew like kind of over it because he got too nervous walking on this plane uh there's also kid games like my daughter plays it harper would i remember watching her you got to watch them because i mean i'd watch like i'm watching there's this game where it's job simulator it's you so you just pretend like you're working at jobs it's very like kind of i mean it's still it still as an adult it's very cool to do because it's crazy but like but you're working at a gas station they come in,
Starting point is 01:54:05 I want a hot dog. You make a hot dog and you turn and you got all this stuff running. And I would just like, I'd be up. I'd walk out of the room for a second. I come back. My daughter's like on top of the couch and like, just,
Starting point is 01:54:15 you know, like really getting into it. Like just trying to grab stuff and have to like grab and be like, Hey, you got to stand. But this is, this is plugged into something. So that,
Starting point is 01:54:24 so that is like, if it gets to Bluetooth, that will be the next. And if it's like, I would say to me, if it becomes a full-on helmet, it would be great. Like a real, like, you know, because it's kind of like weird. So if it becomes a full-on helmet that you can easily put on and then have it be like that. And what I've talked about is like you're going to end up,
Starting point is 01:54:48 I think eventually, would be you have VR rooms. People would have a room that could be just all pads. It's padded so you can't hurt yourself, and you're just in it, and you just know where you're at. And the games are going to get so realistic. I mean, if you watch Ready Player One, I mean, they're running on it. just in it and you just know where you're at and the games are going to get so realistic i mean if you watch ready player one yeah it's i mean they're they're running on or they do that you're running on a treadmill you're tied in and you're running on a treadmill and you know and all that
Starting point is 01:55:14 stuff but i mean you can get to that vr is it's another it's another world man it's i mean you obviously feel like you're that it's pretty wild Yeah. And the other thing I say is going to really change is mobile games because of 5G. 5G is going to allow games to be so much more complex on your phone. Because I guess right now, if it gets too complex, they get slowed down. But 5G will allow much more complex games. There's a great golf game on the phone, but you can only play with really, really good wi-fi yeah and it's uh
Starting point is 01:55:46 you actually are hitting and it's a picture of the course so as you're just hitting on a real picture yeah yeah wgt or something like that they make you try they have to you have to buy all this stuff for it that's that's the the thing with gaming that's so frustrating to me is the buying the stuff fortnight free and gets more money than anybody. That's what League of Legends is that way too. Yeah. They just know you're going to go buy a shirt for your guy. You're going to buy the skins, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:15 Yeah, it's not even weapons, right? It's what your person looks like. That's so crazy. You're buying, you know what I mean? If it's weapons, I understand. You're buying something you don't need. Is there anybody that's the best that looks like, that plays free and has no skins and no nothing?
Starting point is 01:56:35 I mean, I'm sure there are, but once you spend so much time in it, it's almost like the MMO stuff with him. You buy gear that looks cool. Yeah, you just want to see. That's almost part of it you know is just like you're gonna play warcraft so i want my dude to look awesome yeah you know yeah it's all part of it it's part of the fun yeah there it's that's that's the crazy you know because i mean eventually you're like call of duty you're like well i gotta pay 60 bucks for this yeah and then you're like
Starting point is 01:57:02 fortnight is you know they're just giving it to me so then you know what if that hurts call of duty sales because then they just go you know i don't want to i'm not gonna buy this game it's gonna be all is there gonna be any more campaign modes are campaign modes going away i think that there are certain like genres that campaign is everything yeah but then you-to-play games like Fortnite make it incredibly easy just to jump into that. What's a campaign mode?
Starting point is 01:57:32 It's the storyline. Single-player like a main story. Like Red Dead Redemption, that's the single-player campaign mode is what everybody loves. The other thing I read about future video games is AI will become a bigger thing, but they're like concerned if it gets too complex it won't be fun because the computer will just do dumb stuff like like if you're playing a game where you're hunting
Starting point is 01:57:55 each other it'll just hide forever like you know and whereas because it'll just think my best strategy is just literally hide for 48 hours until he gives up. So you can't have it too complex or it'll just do stuff that's not fun. Yeah. Yeah. You got to reel it in, I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:13 Yeah. All right. All right. So there's two hall of fames, world video hall of fame. We're about done, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:20 I mean, we honestly should probably cut the first 30 minutes of this podcast out. The end's been fun. No, the whole thing's been... I'm making the joke now because these people have already listened to that first 30 minutes. They get it. There's two Hall of Fames. The World Video Hall of Fame, which opened in 2015 in Rochester, New York, home of the Garbage Pail. First year inductees in 2015, the very first six that went in were
Starting point is 01:58:45 Doom, Pac-Man, Pong Super Mario Brothers, Tetris and World of Warcraft were they ranked? was Doom won? I don't think so I think this is just the six inductees the first year what was the Contra? remember that game Contra?
Starting point is 01:59:01 is that a game? I ran Contra no Contra Cont Is that a game? I ran Contra? No, Contra was a huge game. It was, yeah. When did it come out? Yeah, in that top one, 1987. Contra was awesome.
Starting point is 01:59:19 What was that on? It was like an arcade game. Yeah, you don't remember this? This was a huge game. You would do jump and do flips, and I think you shoot fire. Yeah, Contra was a big one. Look how many they've made. Yeah. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:59:34 And then there's an international video game hall of fame in Ottumwa, Iowa. Oh, the birthplace of magic. Oh, is it? Well, that was Des Moines, right? Yeah. This is real, Ottumplace of magic. Oh, is it? Well, that was Des Moines, right? Yeah. Iowa. This is real. Ottumwa, Iowa.
Starting point is 01:59:50 Ottumwa considers itself as the video game capital of the world as the city was home to the Twin Galaxies Arcade, which became the epicenter for numerous competitions in arcade games. Yeah, but I could see, you know, people would get into it. Yeah, Contra is awesome. This game looks trash, dude. This game looks trash, dude. This game was great, dude. I'm just kidding. It was a huge, it was awesome.
Starting point is 02:00:10 This was the up, up, left, look up that. I think this game was up, up, left, right, left, right, B, A, select, start. Look up that code. You know that code at all? I've heard that. That makes sense. Up, up, left, up sense up up left up right yeah i think you might got unlimited lives or something uh player up up down down left
Starting point is 02:00:33 right left right b a start yeah yep wow you still remember that that's a that is a famous code that's the first cheat code i don't know if that's true but it's that's the first cheat code. I don't know if that's true, but it's, that's the, if you're, dude, I wouldn't believe, I would have told people that, huh? I would have told people that years from now,
Starting point is 02:00:53 ask, look up first cheat code. It might be the first cheat code. What was it? Up, up, down, down,
Starting point is 02:00:57 left, right, left, right, B, a select start. It was, uh,
Starting point is 02:01:01 Konami code. You're right, man. What about, I mean, I don't know if I need you guys. Konami Code. You're right. Man. What about... I mean, what about... I don't know if I need you guys. Konami Code is for Contra? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:11 Yeah. Yeah, it's that... Yeah, it's... What's the most famous cheat code? I think that might be it. Yeah, that's the most famous one. Yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 02:01:21 You guys... You never even heard of that? Up, Up, Down, Down? Gives you 30 lives in Contra. I've heard of cheat codes. I've entered plenty of cheat codes like that. Yeah, but you've never heard of that that? Up, up, down, down? Gives you 30 lives in contract. I've heard of cheat codes. I've entered plenty of cheat codes like that. You've never heard of that one. I've heard it in life. Like the fangs on the glass.
Starting point is 02:01:42 Just talking about it. At dinner parties. just talking about it it's just that dinner party just talking about it you're friends that are like my kids are playing that and you're like yeah right when you having kids well we, still trying.
Starting point is 02:02:12 I don't know. That was. I feel mean. You might be the only one thinks it's funny. Oh, it's hilarious. All right. So eSports greatest moments. The number one was the one you pointed out during the Clutch performances,
Starting point is 02:02:26 that Street Fighter 3. Oh, dude. Oh, yeah. That was great. Yeah. You remember that? Yeah, yeah. Clutch, when we did.
Starting point is 02:02:33 I mean, kind of. I remember maybe eight of these podcasts, to be honest. All right. That's why every time I come in, I go, oh, welcome. That's why I introduce y'all, because I always go, Aaron, Brian. I do remember the last second comeback of Street Fighter. So I went on the worst video game of all time. It's widely considered E.T. the Extraterrestrial. It was based on the 1982 movie,
Starting point is 02:03:04 but they quickly coded it in five weeks to get it out by Christmas. It sold only a million and a half copies, nowhere near the expectations. And the urban legend is a large number of the cartridges were sent back to the company and
Starting point is 02:03:19 buried in a landfill in New Mexico after they failed to sell. Wow, dude. It is buried in a landfill in new mexico after they failed to sell wow dude it's it is crazy what is the point of it i think you got to get him home somehow oh i remember this game dude i loved it you did you i played it yeah this is that supposed to be et yeah that's et it looks like a dinosaur dude well you are you did... I really do remember this. I don't know if I played it, but I do remember this. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:50 But there's about 10,000 of them buried in a New Mexico landfill. Can they find them? I wonder if you had it now, would people... Would it be worth something? I think they've dug them up. I think Atari just dumped a bunch of old games into that landfill. I mean, this looks so bad. This rivals that
Starting point is 02:04:07 first video game ever made. If you had the choice of either one, I would maybe choose the one made in the 50s. Like you would go, at least there's someone else. Again, if you're listening at work or at home, At least there's someone else.
Starting point is 02:04:28 Again, if you're listening at work or at home. Is that an old woman? It's hard to describe. It's like, hey, should we put some trees in the... Nah, we're good. Should we do any kind of art to this whatsoever? Nah. No. It was made by someone's dad
Starting point is 02:04:45 there it goes that brings back memories I love it yeah alright video games can be fun
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