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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello folks, welcome to the Nate Land podcast. I'm Nate Bargetzi here with Brian Bates, Aaron Weber. We're excited to be here. We're having some work. We're building a pool, to be honest, in our backyard. So if you hear something, I don't know if you're going to hear it. It's kind of stopped right now. It's my buddy Backyard Living in Mount Juliet, John Paul. Yeah, we've talked about him on here before. Yeah. This is your childhood friend, right?

Starting point is 00:00:41 Yeah, it's his company. That's awesome. Yeah, they're great. He doesn't need your business, though. He does. I still think it's his company that's awesome yeah they're great he doesn't need your business though he does i still think it's very funny i think that'd be a very good business to start a business and just be like hey you before you answer the phone you're like i just heads up it doesn't matter if you stay or go all right what do you need yeah put them on the defensive i'll be okay yeah what's up so what do you need you sell me yeah why should i do your pool why should i come to your you know what is it yeah that's

Starting point is 00:01:12 funny uh i'm also wearing buckies if uh you're watching it i have a bucky sweatshirt and a hat it's a little uh quite a bit of buckies uh but i went to one this past weekend first time it's pretty crazy pretty crazy have you been no yeah it's crazy I didn't look it up I didn't know I went in blind and I mean it's wild we went to two of them one in Terrell something Texas maybe and then one in something now the one in Alabama I think there's only one but it was awesome like it was it's a whole big... What is it? It's a gas station. It's just like a big shopping center?

Starting point is 00:01:48 It's like a Cracker Barrel gift shop that's like the size of a Walmart. It's enormous. Yeah, it's very big. There's a beef jerky bar. They're famous for their beaver nuggets. That's what they're called. Yeah, we ate there. We had the pulled pork.

Starting point is 00:02:04 We went twice. We're going to Texas this weekend, what they're called so you can yeah it's it's it's uh we ate there we had the pulled pork i mean we went we went twice and so i mean and we're going to texas this weekend so it might go again it's fun dusty slay who's been on the podcast he went to one for the first time he called me and he was like what what is that yeah he could not wrap his head around it he goes what's going on in there man it is wild you should stop there's one i don't think i mentioned stuckies on here a few weeks ago and you said you mean buckies and i meant stuckies but i don't think i've ever been to a buckies you wouldn't know if you've been to buckies it's big yeah but there's none in tennessee they're building one in cookville i think yeah oh yeah on i-40 they're gonna be all over soon i think that's the new

Starting point is 00:02:43 model yeah turn your gas stations into experiences. And there looks like there's 100 gas stations, gas pumps. Wow. There probably is that many. Yeah. It's awesome. You should go, Brian. Yeah, you should go.

Starting point is 00:02:55 All right. It's fun. All right. Well, we had a great time this weekend. Dallas, all the shows were unbelievable. I got a lot of comments on the podcast, some stuff I wanted to ask you about. New Orleans show, a lot of people said there was a heckler. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:09 Guy walked out. When they walked out, they'd go, boring, and then walked out the door. Right at the beginning of your set? Yeah. No, no, like in the middle. The middle. Opened the door. I saw them.

Starting point is 00:03:22 I could see. I didn't see. I just saw the doors open. There's two. There's a couple. I mean i mean super loud boring shut the door left and then yeah i heard you had a good comeback yeah i said that was my parents uh it was fun they said you said i've sold out two shows today i feel pretty good about myself. Yeah. Yeah, that was a lot. The show was going pretty well probably at that point, right? The show was going well. It wasn't like you were bobbing at somebody.

Starting point is 00:03:50 No. No. They were super drunk. Chase, our merch guy, was out front. He saw him. That guy was the guy that was a problem the whole time. He was a problem at the beginning. Before we even went in, him and his wife, they were just super drunk.

Starting point is 00:04:08 You're in New Orleans. You get a little flair. I haven't had it in a while. But it was, you know, it is. L.A. show, I had a lady that was just, I kept talking the whole time. But, you know, it's usually alcohol. It's like that. You always just feel bad because everybody's having fun, and like you're I mean the show's going really good yeah and so then you

Starting point is 00:04:31 just you know and but I mean the crowd was great they get you know I mean everybody's like yeah it's ridiculous but it's fine we moved on it's fun to see you in those moments because I feel like you're not combative at all on stage, right? Your act's not combative. I don't want to make that. Right. You're not inciting that whatsoever. I don't think that person woke up the next day and probably thought,

Starting point is 00:04:52 I'm glad I did that. Of course not. So I don't want to make that person feel bad. You just don't want it to happen. It's like they're in their own world and they're doing it. Right when it happens, you know, you just got to get back

Starting point is 00:05:08 into your set. It's a little frustrating, but, yeah, the last thing I want to do is like just yell at this person. Like, you know,

Starting point is 00:05:15 I don't, you know, they leave, they left, and then, you know, the audience clapped when they left.

Starting point is 00:05:20 I mean, you know, it's obvious that no one wants them there. And so, but, every show is great. Pensacola is great.

Starting point is 00:05:27 New Orleans. And Texas and Dallas. Grand Prairie, Texas, Dallas. It's the biggest show I've ever done. So the Verizon. Texas. No, it's a, I forget. Texas, it's Texas something.

Starting point is 00:05:44 It's a school, TCU. Maybe it's a TCU. Texas Christian or something like that. Something like that. And then, yeah, what does that say? The Verizon Theater? No. Is it?

Starting point is 00:06:00 In Grand Prairie, yeah, I think it's the Verizon. Oh. I thought it was like Texas. There's something else called texas something maybe verizon theater hmm but it was it's the biggest show you've ever done right the biggest show it was i want to say it was around 5800 people wow oh texas trust texas trust c theater yeah so there you go texas trust c you That was on the wall, the sign, the building. I mean, the building was so big, the traffic. So I would tell people what we're learning.

Starting point is 00:06:31 I mean, that was the biggest show I've ever done. And it was unreal. It was crazy. They were amazing. I messed up. I told one joke kind of backwards at the beginning not that you don't get nervous you're excited but it's kind of daunting

Starting point is 00:06:52 when you walk out and then you're like oh I got it and then you're I mean it's so big and it's so many people and you know like if you were in New Orleans that was 1500 people so this is four of those shows in one show. And then, and I mean, I love every show.

Starting point is 00:07:11 Like it's, you know, but it was like, it's just such a different thing. And I told, like I have a turtle joke up atop. If people have been to the shows, they know what the joke is. But I told it like kind of backwards. I like ended up like skipping one part of it and then i had to get that part back in before i got to the other part because that's a part that i uh call back to later it's like one of those like important jokes so you're like well if i don't reference this i then i can't reference this thing later oh yeah and so i had to like i like

Starting point is 00:07:39 just skipped a part and then then i got it back in i don't't think anybody noticed, but it was one that was in my head. You're like, there was. Doing acrobatics. Yeah, there was like a lot going on. I was trying to get. And I had another joke that I, it was kind of at the beginning. And then it just, then I was like, I settled in and we were good from the rest. And I don't think anybody noticed, but it's like, it was like, it's crazy.

Starting point is 00:08:02 I mean, it's a lot of people. I don't even, it's, yeah, you look at them all and you're like good i mean good night man like it's like you can't believe these people are here so many folks posted photos from their yeah they're just i mean it's the best dude they're the everybody's the best and uh they're the nicest and i love it i love it that's why i love like even even like that guy in new orleans they got boring it's like the whole crowd like gets it like they don't we i don't get a lot of that and knock on wood i don't want to get a lot of it but i don't think i'm going to get a lot of it because the people that come out are great people they're me yeah they're i'm not to

Starting point is 00:08:39 sound like i'm saying i'm great people like that things but they're you know they're me and the fact that i'm never going to go to a show in Yale. I have no desire to do that. So it's a lot of good people. Great average Americans. A bunch of us greatest average Americans. That's what we are. Just everywhere.

Starting point is 00:08:57 And they're all over the world. Just us. Even if you're in another country and you listen to this, you're the greatest average American. Or you're the greatest average of whatever your country is? That's what you can be. We're all just that. That's what we all are.

Starting point is 00:09:10 Source of Gorb. Source of Gorb's doing great. Wherever you're at. Wherever he's at. Spain, right? I think so. He's the greatest average of Spanish. I mean.

Starting point is 00:09:22 Spaniard? Spaniards. Oh, okay. I did a grandry this weekend, and it went great. And before the show, I was in the dressing room just looking through my phone, and someone follows me on social media posted they were at the Grand Ole Opry. It's a Facebook. I don't know the person.

Starting point is 00:09:41 It's a Facebook friend of mine. But in my mind, I thought, they're going to lose their mind when they see me walk out. Then I even went as far to think, I bet they drove here to see me. They were from like Indiana or something. Yeah, yeah. I get off stage and I go look at my phone later. They've posted photos of the people before me and the guy right after me. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:01 Never posted. And I couldn't let it go. So the next day I was like, looks like a great show. Who else was on it? They never replied. Yeah. Never posted. And I couldn't let it go. So the next day I was like, looks like a great show. Who else was on it? They never replied. Yeah. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:10:11 We went to the bathroom for a while there. We're Facebook friends. I was on the show. Never, never posted it. Yeah. That's great. Well, they were paying attention

Starting point is 00:10:19 during your set, Brian. That's why they weren't taking pictures. Music, you can tune in and out. Who cares? It's in the background, right? Comedy's active. Yep.

Starting point is 00:10:27 That's active listening. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. That's what I would tell myself. John Schneider, I told you, Bo Duke. I wanted to meet him. It didn't work out, but... You didn't meet him?

Starting point is 00:10:36 No. I mean, I could have, but he had just a ton of people with him. Did you just creep outside of his dressing room for a while? Basically, yeah. Poked your head. Move it along, buddy.

Starting point is 00:10:46 John, we got this older fella who wants to say hi to you. He remember when y'all show came out, when he watched the pilot. John, you come over here, and then you got a magazine, and you're like, will you sign this? Like Carlos Groves? Yeah. He's like 65. John, we got this older fella yeah wants to meet you guys i don't he's a little you mind signing something for me

Starting point is 00:11:10 show went well though man yeah it was great it was great yeah everyone they're so nice i did a crazy run with dustin nickerson we piece it we had a show in pittsburgh that got canceled because of that crazy storm that came through. We did Liberty University in Lynchburg. A bunch of podcast fans were there for that. That was very cool. It was the first time I walked out and a bunch of people yelled,

Starting point is 00:11:35 let's go! I'm the opener. I'm like, oh, this is amazing. And I met them and I was like, make sure you tell the headliner you came for me. Make sure Dustin knows. And then we were in Napanee, Indiana, Amish country. A lot of Amish people at the show. And then we were in Black River Falls, Wisconsin, also an Amish town. I'm deep into the Amish community.

Starting point is 00:11:56 I'm trying to blow up. In the Amish, yeah. Yeah. It's going to be a real slow word of mouth. Yeah. It's going to take time. You're going to be the old-fashioned. I'm trying to go viral, dude.

Starting point is 00:12:08 I'm blowing up. It's going to be just letters. You know. Letters. Yeah, dude. They're going to write to each other about me. I saw this guy. Black Wolf.

Starting point is 00:12:18 Golf is out there. Whistling Straight is out there. Yes. And Dustin said he'd been there with. Yeah, there's a lot of golf out there it's like black wolf has a golf course okay i i i'm not i can't remember for sure i need to look it up but black wolf did you stay at that hotel no so that hotel i did a corporate gig and that's so i you know my act i have a joke about not going to turn the light off in the hotel room

Starting point is 00:12:41 it was at that hotel oh wow i'm almost that hotel. I need to make sure because I was going to start saying the hotel and the joke. So if someone's seen my act, if I talk about doing a show in a hotel, I'm almost positive it was that Black Wolf Hotel. Because I played at that course. I can't remember. There's an old hotel right there that's like a popular hotel. So they were doing the corporate gig there. So I got to stay there.

Starting point is 00:13:06 Super nice hotel. It's the one we showed on the Jay Cutler episode. I don't know. Yeah. I don't remember. Was Jay Cutler on this podcast? So, yeah. But that's amazing golf up there.

Starting point is 00:13:18 Yeah. Not a lot of golf being played right now. It was unbelievably cold. Yeah. Feels like negative five. Yeah. We got caught. We thought Pensacola was great. It was unbelievably cold. Yeah. It feels like negative five. Yeah, we got caught. We thought Pensacola was great. It was kind of rainy, but it was not really cold.

Starting point is 00:13:32 New Orleans was like there were one week of cold was the week we were there. And then Dallas was – it got a little warmer in Dallas by the time we got there, like 40, 50, but they just were coming out of like a major storm. Felix, the neighbor Felix, met his – or I met,, I know his parents, his parents and brothers, they all came to the show. Oh, man. Yeah, they brought us a king cake, which was, they're unreal, dude. King cakes are fun, dude.

Starting point is 00:13:56 They're so good. It has a baby in it. Yeah. Do you know about king cakes? No. It's a Mardi Gras thing. Yeah. It's so good.

Starting point is 00:14:02 They're so good. But the two that had a baby we i i wish i remember the name i don't remember anything but he gave us two but they have a baby in them and you ever gets the baby it's good luck and then i didn't get the baby it's a little plastic like i think most people don't do it now because people would eat it yeah you got to make it big enough to where you can't choke on it it's people would eat it yeah you got to make it big enough to where you can't choke on it it's not i guess it's it's it's pretty chocable i mean if you got into it i'd say back in your heyday you're like you know i don't think you can now but i think getting after it i think when you're getting after it back in the day i think you

Starting point is 00:14:40 could have got one down not even knowing it i think everybody like i think you would have walked back and got your money back, not knowing the baby was in your tummy. Excuse me, sir. You promised there'd be a baby in here. Well, maybe when another person got it. Well, that'd be funny because no one else ate it but me. I ate the whole thing, and I didn't see a baby.

Starting point is 00:14:59 And you'd go, well, were you hauling it back? Hauling it back. Yeah, I put it into work for sure. All right, let's start with some stuff from you guys. Christina Audrey. I get so excited when I see Nick on the podcast. The vibe between Nate, Nick, Aaron, and Blip is the best. I look forward to spending part of Wednesdays with you gentlemen.

Starting point is 00:15:21 Keep up the great work. Thank you, Christina. That's awesome. Very nice. Ty Schultz. Keep up the great work. Thank you, Christina. That's awesome. Very nice. Ty Schultz, I had a rough week. Hit play on my favorite podcast and I see an empty chair where bingles usually sits. Nate says, solve that problem. That is the hardest I've laughed in years. Thank you guys for the continuous source of laughter and joy. Y'all are the best. That's why you do it. I love that so much. People love that. Getting a nice, you know, a good laugh.

Starting point is 00:15:48 It's not much. If you can get them, it's like, it's the best. Austin Thrift. What kind of world is it when you can't even berate a close friend and call them a cow in front of thousands of people without getting hate from the general public? Austin gets you. Austin gets it, dude. Yeah. yeah what kind of world we living in if you guys if you think if someone just watches and they go who do you call cow

Starting point is 00:16:14 they're never going to guess it's him all right that's very funny well written sorry that's no yeah no that's right i just said you had a baby too we're not off to a good start i was just watching the old roast of, we're talking about the way comics act to each other. I was watching the old roast of Patrice O'Neill. That's at the Boston, actually. Dustin Chavins here. Have you seen, the full video in good quality now is on YouTube.

Starting point is 00:16:37 And there's a part of it that's just brutal, dude. Bobby Kelly's up there. He has a video of people kind of trash talking patrice and then he goes hey while i'm up here i lent my video camera to steve burn oh i know the story last week and he heard steve burn tell the story oh really he recorded it at his snl audition and i think we all need to watch it he just plays it and it's just steve burn in his like apartment just like doing br Bruce Lee and stuff. It's so brutal.

Starting point is 00:17:06 I don't know if I'd ever forgive him for that. Yeah. It's crazy. That's crazy. You've heard him tell that story? He told it on Pete Holmes' podcast, and he said Bobby edited it out. He left in the worst parts and edited out the good parts. Not that it wouldn't all be awkward to watch.

Starting point is 00:17:22 That's so funny. That's why in New York, you just couldn't leave anything. It's like Ari Shaffir. You can't have your phone be unlocked. Can't tell him whatever. Like, if you're around Ari, like, your phone has to be locked. I'm going to watch it time after. He did it to me once.

Starting point is 00:17:41 And he gets it. You got to get it back. And, you know, you'll be like, I'll just tweet something, put it in Instagram. He did it to me once. And he gets it. You got to get it back. And you'll be like, I'll just tweet something, put it in Instagram. There's 350,000 people on Instagram I got. And you'll just be like, what are you doing, dude? My whole life's going to wreck your whole life. You just got to grab your phone and be like, don't put it down, dude. And don't, like, make sure it locks immediately.

Starting point is 00:18:01 And it sounds insane, but it's very hilarious. But it's, I mean it's very hilarious but it's it's it's uh i mean i've watched people i've seen them get people to like you see someone's twitter and then you're like god that's crazy they said that and you're like you just know it's harry man uh yeah it's very funny i mean that's how yeah that was the best about new york man i truly believe that's what made uh new york comics like that's what made New York comics. That's something that there's just no rules, and it can be the meanest thing ever. But the love is still there. These guys would do whatever for you.

Starting point is 00:18:35 It didn't feel like they hated him or anything. It was just like, oh, this is so great. This is so embarrassing. It's like brothers. Yeah. It's brothers and sisters, and it's like brothers yeah it's it's you know brothers and sisters and it's just a family that's just we will you will get ridiculed steve byrne would be the one that knocked i remember i had a carrot top dvd and grabbed me because what's that just threw it on

Starting point is 00:18:54 the ground and i was like a brand new comment now you could be like why do i have a carrot top dvd i don't know i don't remember i did but i like That's why I had it, because I'm a big fan. Yeah. Sarah Chia. C-H-I-A? I think so. How hilarious is it that Brian used the band Bangles as his example twice when trying to clarify how Aaron and Nick say the football team, the Bengals?

Starting point is 00:19:21 Does a young gun like Aaron even know who this is? I think I know one song by the Bengals. Oh. They have a walk like an Egyptian. Was that them? Oh, there you go. Yep. You don't have to do it.

Starting point is 00:19:33 Manny Vowles. I was about to say Manny Vowles. That's a guy's name. Manny Vowles. That would be a guy's name. Yeah. Manny Vowles. Who's over here, Manny Vowles?

Starting point is 00:19:43 He's in the mob. Manny Vowles are what's called dip thongs that's right is it dip thongs dip thongs meaning they naturally combine two sounds we don't tend to recognize it when we're speaking because it happens so quickly so when a short e slides into a word like with NG, like in penguins or bingles, the practical effort is that we hear what we consider to be. Oh, what did I say? Effort. Oh, yeah. The practical effect is what that we hear what we consider be a long A.

Starting point is 00:20:21 So that's her explanation of why I say it the way I do. Yeah. I checked out of that whole thing and i read it and i wasn't even yeah i was in another tapped out i was in another home dip thongs you're i was like shopping i was at walmart in the clothes section looking around and i just kept reading it that's what happens when i read when i read a book i mean i'll go three pages and then be like, where am I at? You got to go back or you just keep going? It depends. I'll either quit completely or I'll...

Starting point is 00:20:56 Last night I did good. I'm going back to Sopranos and I was proud of myself. Sopranos book? Novelization of the Sopranos? Yeah. Going back to the show.

Starting point is 00:21:09 I put my phone in the other room. Oh, man. That's the move. Sitting there, yeah. I'm tired of my phone. Katie Visaggio. Bingles, not bangles, are bingles. Y'all are killing me. Short E, guys.

Starting point is 00:21:25 Short E, bingles. As a reading specialist, I'm now convinced Nate is dyslexic, but I'm now also wondering about breakfast in A.A. Ron 2. Nick was right. So Nick's perfect. Well, Nick's an actor. Nick can do what he does. He can do accents and stuff too.

Starting point is 00:21:46 Yeah, he knows how to do it. What is she saying here, Aaron? She's saying that the correct pronunciation is Bengals. Bengals. Like Ben-gay. Ben-gay. Bengals. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:57 How long? Sorry. That's that old joke? Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, that old joke? That's a joke from my heyday. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:07 That was Brian's opening for many years. Jeremy Tidwell. Not to belabor the point, but the correct pronunciation is Bengals. Bengals. Oh, it's not. My wife and I lived in Calcutta, India for a few years, which is in the Bengal region. The area is well known for its tigers, which still roam wild,

Starting point is 00:22:33 but I'm still with Nate in Baltimore on the penguin debate. Bengals. Sounds like he knows. I think if I was in India and they said, be careful, there's a Bengal out there, I wouldn't even know what I would be looking for. And I would be like, whatever. And as it ate me, I'd go, dead company.

Starting point is 00:22:51 So you say Bengal. Bengal, yeah. Bengal. Penguin. Bengal and penguin. So that's a pan. You're holding a pan in your hand. That seems like what a guy would say that was a Bengal.

Starting point is 00:23:03 And he was dressed up as a man. And he goes, there's Bengals out there, and you go, what's that? He goes, bingles, and you walk up closer, then he takes it, and it's a real bingle, and then they eat you. Will Bailey, just help Brian out because I am intrigued. The Tony Award is short for the Antoniette Perry Award for Excellence in Broadway Theater. Apparently, Antoniette was big in the theater. I think it's Antoinette. Apparently, Antoinette was big in the theater. I think it's Antoinette. Antoinette? Antoinette.

Starting point is 00:23:29 Antoinette was big in the theater world around the time they had the first Tony Awards in 1947. Tony Award is short for the Antoinette Perry Award for Excellence in Broadway Theater. Well. I'd go with Tony too. Now we know. I would go with Tony too, but I don't know how you get Tony out of... excellence in Broadway theater. Well.

Starting point is 00:23:46 I'd go with Tony, too. Now we know. I would go with Tony, too, but I don't know how you get Tony out of. Antoinette. Antoinette Perry Award for excellence. I guess that's another word. Like, Anthony is Tony. I guess Antoinette is also another word for Tony.

Starting point is 00:23:59 Yeah. And then it's Perry Award for excellence in Broadway theater. I mean, it just ends up being a lot. Will Bailey is a West Wing character, by the way. Oh, maybe that's him. Maybe. Matt Oregon. Hello, folks.

Starting point is 00:24:19 Hearing that the Oscars are named after some lady's uncle, I'm curious to know what you guys think the awards for the Nate Land podcast would be called. I'm curious to know what you guys think the awards for the Nate Land podcast would be called. My initial thoughts would be the Folks, the Felixes, the Source Gorbs, or maybe the Hollies. What do you got? I like the Hollies. Hollies is good. Because that's just, yeah, that's like, it sounds like it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:24:37 The Nateys. The Nateys. Like the Dundies. I like the Hollies. Hollies sounds great. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Amanda Garcia. I like the Hollies. Hollies sounds great. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Starting point is 00:24:47 Amanda Garcia. I think I know Amanda. I think I met Oregon, too. I think I met him this week. Yeah, he was at the Dallas show. Yeah, yeah. I met him. I talked to him and his wife.

Starting point is 00:24:57 They were great. Amanda Garcia. I was a seat filler for years. I remember how fast commercial breaks are in person and how much goes on. Nicest person I ever met was Tom Hanks. I was sitting behind him, and he actually turned around and introduced his wife and himself before I could. He seems very friendly and humble, and he was just as happy as I was to be there. I got lucky a few times and got seats where I never had to move.

Starting point is 00:25:20 That's a whole big gig, seat filling. You met Tom Hanks, right? Yeah. He's super. Hanks, right? Yeah. He's super, him and his wife. Yeah. Did he introduce himself? No,

Starting point is 00:25:30 I was doing that show for Joe Walsh, but we went and met him afterwards and we talked to him for a while. I mean, he's unbelievably nice, yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:38 Didn't you say he made a very nice move by he offered to take a picture together? I hope that was him. I thought you said he said we should do a picture together because he knows everyone wants it yeah so instead of you having to ask yeah it might have been him i don't know we did take a picture with that's such a power move

Starting point is 00:25:54 well it's like i i you know i've had to ask i asked him like i asked a guy um at bucky's the guy came up and i was like you want to get a? You can just kind of tell that he wants to, but he's trying to be polite. And like I said, just ask me. I'll always take a picture. But I'll do it sometimes just because you're like, I don't want them to, you know, I feel like they want to.

Starting point is 00:26:18 I'm the Tom Hanks of comedy. All right, I'll say it. No, but it's,'s yeah it's very nice it's like it's it's just it's just kind of you know and then i've had also the person goes no i'm good boring frank del grosso hello folks during the words episode you talked about fans running onto the field. Last year, a guy made $50,000 prop bet during the Super Bowl that someone would run on the field. Then he ran on the field. A Mr. Meaner trespassing charge and $500 bell for a $370,000 payday. Wow.

Starting point is 00:26:59 Wow. That's the thing about gambling. There's got to be – there's a lot of prop bets get very, where you're like, well, a guy could be in control of that bet. And I mean, that's like right there. Like, how do they, is there rules against that? Like, it can't be you. I mean, I read the article.

Starting point is 00:27:19 He got his money. But yeah, you're like your point. There's like award shows where there's prop bets if this person says this word or phrase you're like well they could just place a bet on themselves right yeah what would i mean how do you stop that i don't know you know if you if you work for the lottery or even if you're a family member of anybody in the lottery you know that you you're ineligible yeah for anything there's been a lot of scams of people. They win a lot. They have a winning lottery ticket, but they're ineligible, so they give it to somebody else,

Starting point is 00:27:48 and then they collect the winnings through them. There's got to be something in place for that. Like you can bet on what color the Gatorade bath is after the game. I could call up the equipment guy, make sure it's red. Yeah. You know? And then give him a part of the winnings? 50 bucks.

Starting point is 00:28:08 Yeah. I bet so many other people are betting on it that it maybe evens out. It doesn't really matter. I don't know. I watched a guy. He had a parlay. Four different NBA games. Who would score the first point on the game?

Starting point is 00:28:24 And it was a potential $70,000 win. And he got the first three. And then the fourth game was Porzingis. Oh, yeah. And he went for a layup and just missed it, dude. The parlays is the new thing. You've seen a lot of that. Like guys are doing these crazy parlays and winning these big bets.

Starting point is 00:28:43 It makes it really fun, dude. That's what they would have to do parlays would have to be i think that's how uh gambling i always said like it's supposed to be this thing that you know it's like where it takes off and like but they do need to make it where it's like it's got to be simple it's got to be uh it's it's hard to follow and it's hard to understand it and then but parlays is super fun like that's like you're oh, I could see that. And you're watching a bunch of random things. That's very fun. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:10 I think they want you to do parlays. Yeah. Because your odds are so slim. But you see people getting them. But I mean, yeah, it can be a bunch of people. So Jesse Rothacker, several years ago, I got a flat tire. So I pulled over and called AAA. I know.

Starting point is 00:29:27 I now. That sounds like I didn't watch Dumb and Dumber this weekend. He goes, the. That's what that felt like. I know how to change a tire, but they did it for free as part of the membership, so I figured I'd let them get under my vehicle and get all dirty instead of me. The operator on their phone said it would be a while until they could get someone out to me, so I decided to start working on it myself until they arrived. About 15 minutes later,

Starting point is 00:29:53 the mechanic truck pulls up, and the dude is like, you need some help? I'm like, sure, I got it started, but since you're here, I'll let you finish it. The guy doesn't really say much, but he finishes changing my tire while I stand back and do nothing. Finally, I'm like, thanks. Do I need to sign anything? He just looks at me real weird. Suddenly, it dawns on me. He was driving a mechanic truck but never said he was from AAA. He was just some random dude being nice to another random dude

Starting point is 00:30:15 with a flat tire. And I totally stood there like a jerk and let him do all the work changing my tire for me. I felt like such a moron. Yeah. That's great. That's great. That's great. I think guys will do it sometimes, but sometimes they want you to tip them.

Starting point is 00:30:32 Like, just give them cash, which I guess, that's getting hard. I remember when I got a flat tire once, and they didn't have a tire. I rented a car. I was doing a show. And I was driving from Indianapolis. And thankfully, the show was at 10 o'clock at night. And I got a flat tire pulled over on the side of the interstate. I'm on the interstate, the main.

Starting point is 00:30:55 And I pulled. I parked. Because they were like, I was going to just change it myself. But they didn't put a spare tire in the car. So I had to wait for the, I called the rental place. And they place and they came to get it and i parked like they had a guardrail and so i parked like kind of i got it in front and back to kind of behind it so and i just took a nap went to sleep pretty hard and then like but i had a few people stop trying to help and offer to help but i it felt very much like, I was like, I don't have a tire. And so we couldn't do anything.

Starting point is 00:31:27 But I think people just drive around and pray, you know, and they throw some money. You didn't feel nervous like sleeping there? Especially if people knock on your window? No. I don't know. No, this was over

Starting point is 00:31:43 10 years ago. I don't think it was. It was during the day. It was getting dark by the time it changed. I don't think it ever occurred. I locked the door and just. It's like one of those day sleeps in a car where the sun's hitting you. I mean, it was unreal. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:31:59 Best sleep I've ever had in my life. I was reading this just as laughing. I love that Nate said whirlwind instead of the actual word whirlwind. When talking about Matt Damon and Ben Affleck's year, they won for Good Will Hunting. It's a whirlwind. It's a worldwide win. It's Leanne Carr that posted that.

Starting point is 00:32:18 Oh, Leanne Carr. Yes. Yeah, it's a world. It is a whirlwind. It's a whirlwind. The Oscars are worldwide. Yeah, so it is a world win Yeah, you were right

Starting point is 00:32:26 I was right I was right All right That's it for No Sounds like Super Bowl is here We're all excited for it

Starting point is 00:32:35 The Cincinnati Bengals Versus the Rams I almost find either one I kind of root for the Bengals But I like Matthew Stafford. I'm glad that he's there. And so I'll be happy either way. Titans should be there.

Starting point is 00:32:51 That's the only thing that matters. This week, what are we talking about? Talking about advertising. We did philosophy, and I was under the impression that Aaron was a philosophy major. He really let us down with his philosophy minor. But now we're going to give him a chance to redeem himself. You're a marketing major, right? I was, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:33:11 And you worked for an advertising agency? I interned at an advertising agency, and I worked at a digital marketing company. Is that where you hired someone, Jessica Hand? Jenny, yeah. Jenny Hand. That's where I hired her, yeah, my old company. Oh.

Starting point is 00:33:24 Mm-hmm. How did you get to hire someone i was a manager man oh really yeah it was like a five-person company but technically i was a manager yeah how long did you work there four years did you work your way up to manage you were hired as a manager uh it was a i was not hired as a manager but it's a pretty small step up but a five-person company i think we just kind of said you can start hired as a manager, but it's a pretty small step up at a five-person company. I think we just kind of said, you can start calling yourself a manager now. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:33:49 So you've been here long enough. Was there someone above you? Yeah. I had two people above me. And they don't do the hiring? Does the manager do hiring? It was all involved, but I didn't single-handedly hire. And two underneath you. Did you say there was like five of them?

Starting point is 00:34:04 I guessed. I guessed they were in the middle. I guess they were lateral. How old were you? single-handedly higher yeah and two underneath you just so there's like five i guess i guess you're in the middle i guess they were lateral how old were you this is man two or three i mean i was my mid-20s yeah this is the music row where people drop off their cds yeah yeah i've forgotten about that yeah i ever tell you that my office was on music row so it's in the middle of all these studios so like all the time some poor schmuck would just show up and be like i'm here to drop off my cd hopefully sell some of these songs yeah we're like dude because i just drove in from texas i wrote some songs like we're naughty we have nothing to do with music man yeah sorry also i don't know if this is how this works but i hope it works for

Starting point is 00:34:42 you man yeah to go find a different studio. Yeah. Here. Did you guys watch Mad Men? No. I never did. I loved it. Yeah?

Starting point is 00:34:51 Was it real? I mean, was it? Well, in your time, it was. That's right. Yeah. I was obsessed with Mad Men, and that's why I wanted to work at an advertising agency, because I look like the coolest. It's like the coolest hang ever.

Starting point is 00:35:04 Yeah. It's pretty different now. It's a bunch of dudes and graphic teams with nerf guns that's what it is it's a different vibe they don't drink they do drink it's a they a lot of these uh these fun companies you know they got beer free beer fridays 3 p.m. They bring a keg in, and then everybody's sitting on exercise balls and that kind of atmosphere. So you think this is what has happened with the workforce today when everybody's having trouble? It's because during your day, y'all started drinking,

Starting point is 00:35:40 becoming full-blown alcoholics on every Friday? Yeah, it doesn't help. I think it's leaked over into Yeah, it doesn't help, man. I think it's leaked over into now. Doesn't help. This is the end result is no one's around. I mean, this company, they're great people. Man, they'd like ride.

Starting point is 00:35:54 These are adults. It was like razor scooters. They'd ride those around the office and stuff. What are we doing here? Yeah. What was an example of like a big company that you guys represent? Did you ever have an ad campaign go bad? Somebody missed something?

Starting point is 00:36:09 When I interned at a company, we had major, major clients. McDonald's, some stuff with Coca-Cola, companies like that. The company where I was a manager and hiring people, my clients were plumbing companies, HVAC companies. I had a couple colleges at a hospital we had some very small scale problems what do you do an ad for a hospital you're like we you know we have the best crutches in the business yeah essentially uh you're just trying to come up with a good like you, you know, you're feeling down? Come to our hospital. We're closer.

Starting point is 00:36:50 It's all about proximity. Yeah, are they selling stuff? Like, you just, you know, you got to go when you got to go. So it's not like, I guess you just want to be like, hey, remember us? Yeah. You have an appendix burst? Come to us. Well, you think about that. That's a lot of advertising

Starting point is 00:37:06 is just they want you to they want to exist in your mind yeah you know think about those like insurance who out there is actively searching for new insurance right now probably not a lot of people but insurance i feel like every other commercial is an insurance commercial GACO Progressive State Farm yeah any of those so I just want you to was it your idea to change Jake

Starting point is 00:37:29 from State Farm from white to black was that your idea Aaron just answer the question it was not my idea but I'm glad they did it dude

Starting point is 00:37:38 that's cool it's taken off it has been yeah I brought an example I was going to ask you if this would be So I got my Titans

Starting point is 00:37:47 Renewal in the mail It's time to renew Your season tickets Deadline February 15th Yeah The guy here Is Harold Landry Led the team in sacks

Starting point is 00:37:56 Just played in the Pro Bowl yesterday Yeah But he's a free agent And he may not be On the team Next season But he has

Starting point is 00:38:04 Until March 8th to make that decision. Wow. And you have until February 15th. I have until February 15th to find out if this guy's even going to be on the team. So could you say that's a bad choice? I don't know. You probably thought more about it than anybody. Probably, but yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:19 I think you and Harold Landry probably thought about it the most. I would think it's a good sign of your Harold Landry. I would think he'd be like, well, we don't want him to go. I'm sure they don't, but he probably wants a big payday. Yeah, well, they probably own the rights to that image, so they can use that image forever, right? Yeah, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying they're trying to get you to come back,

Starting point is 00:38:39 and they're using a guy who's probably going to be on the team. I mean, I hope he is. Yeah. I was just wondering if that's something you guys would think about when y'all were doing stuff like this. Why is he probably not going to be on the team. I mean, I hope he is. Yeah. But I was just wondering if that's something you guys would think about when y'all were doing stuff like that. Why is he probably not going to be on the team? Is he for sure wanting to leave? No, it's just if they can have enough money to re-sign him.

Starting point is 00:38:51 Yeah. I hope they do, but, I mean, some team may offer him a ton of money and he'd go with them. That's interesting. I don't think you can – I would imagine with the Titans you can't – or any team like this, you're like, you've got to just put a picture on it. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. You can't overthink it.

Starting point is 00:39:11 There's plenty of players who will definitely be on the team next year that could have used. I'm not saying it's a big deal. It could have been like Derrick Henry. Then it's too much Derrick Henry. Do companies think about stuff at that level? 100%. When I worked in TV news and we would do promos

Starting point is 00:39:27 i mean you gotta think about who is this going to offend right people are now i mean i'm using the example i'm not really offended by that but i'm just i'm asking is that stuff y'all think about yeah and i'll say that's the one thing i took away one of the things i took away from the company i interned at in college, just the amount of levels this stuff has to get through. Yeah. Of course somebody talked about that. Is this the right guy for it?

Starting point is 00:39:52 How long did you work there? I worked there for a summer and then I worked at that other marketing company for years. For how many years? Three or four years maybe. We're talking about advertising. We're interviewing like your 30-year vet, and you started a company. When you interview at advertising companies, they try to,

Starting point is 00:40:16 because I interviewed a couple, they try to throw you off by asking you crazy questions in the middle of an interview just to see how you think. So they'll be like, so Nate, tell tell me about you got family out here yeah what animal would you be if you could be an animal bingle i'm ready for everything you're hired you're going no just ask me. How many windows are in New York City? 100,000.

Starting point is 00:40:50 Give or take. Go. Give or take a bunch. I mean, just keep going. Ask me, go to the, because they got to go

Starting point is 00:41:01 to Syria, they got to flip it back and forth. Yeah, if you had a billion dollars in cash, where would you hide it? In your mom's house. I think I would get hired.

Starting point is 00:41:19 That's how you become a manager. That's how you become a manager. This guy's got solutions. He's done anything twice. Yeah. a manager that's a good man yeah this guy's got solutions you think twice yeah what i mean what's the example of a question they would ask those yeah they try to ask you crazy questions pay attention to the podcast you'd hear that i thought i was just using those examples do you remember the scene from the office where i can't i think it's uh ed helms andy's interviewing dwight yeah

Starting point is 00:41:47 he starts asking him crazy questions like that that is what will happen in this because they want to see how creative your brain your brain can be so it's kind of a fun fun exercise yeah you killed it man yeah thanks you're hired yeah uh the first ad in human history was in 3000 BC. It was in Thebes, Egypt. A man named Hapu ran a clothing factory, and one of his slave laborers, gave his description, said he'll give you a gold coin if you find him and return him to the best clothing store in the land. Whole coin is offered. So this guy found a way to advertise his lost slave and mention he had the best place in town. So it was like a wanted poster.

Starting point is 00:42:45 Basically. Brought to you by the best textiles in Egypt. That's crazy, man. That's the first known one. Most expensive. How do they know that? Did they find it? Yeah, I think so.

Starting point is 00:42:56 I think it's on display somewhere. Yeah. I mean, there was like Pompeii when the Mount Vesuvius erupted. I think they found stuff written on walls, ads, and stuff like that because it was preserved and stuff like that. So they could find like interstate ads like on bars eventually. Someday. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:43:15 Like billboards? Yeah, but cricket. Just like a billboard that says cricket. They could find the ruins of a Bucky somewhere. Yeah. What was this place it only had 100 gas station pumps can you imagine that little and down there and watch commercials do a thing where the every time that you don't see a watch commercial

Starting point is 00:43:38 the hands are either at 10 10 or 8 20 this is done so you can always see the brand written on the watch, and it looks like a smiley face, which subconsciously gives a positive reaction to consumers. So say 1010. Like that. Yeah. 1010 or 820. Is always what?

Starting point is 00:43:58 Oh, that's how. The hands are always. Oh. Wow. Wow. That's crazy. You say that it looks like a smiley face? Yeah, that's what it Yeah, according to this.

Starting point is 00:44:08 I don't see where a smiley face is. I'm trying to find it. It's not frowning. Yeah. 10, 20. It's kind of like a smiley face. It's going up. Yeah. It's not perfect. He said Oh, it's going up. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:44:25 All right, it's not perfect. You said 1020 or 820? 820. 1010 or 820? 1010 or 820. Oh, all these Rolexes are 1010. Yeah. 1010.

Starting point is 00:44:37 Huh. There's an 820. No, 835. What is Fossil doing? Fossil's got... Timex. Yeah. What time do you think your watch would be on if you sold watches?

Starting point is 00:44:53 It would be on... What's a frown? What's a worried look? Yeah. Four... I can't even think. Upside down. It'd be cracked.

Starting point is 00:45:01 435? For the crack in it? Yeah. Marlboro, when they started the Marlboro Man, they increased the first year 3,000% increase from the previous year. That was probably a good ad campaign. Prior to that, they used doctors to promote. That's a solid ad campaign.

Starting point is 00:45:23 Yeah. Doctors telling you to smoke. Yeah. I'm just going to go back to that time, man. solid ad campaign. Yeah. Doctors telling you to smoke. Yeah. I'm just going to go back to that time, man. I think I got, there's, I think I sent you an ad

Starting point is 00:45:30 of a doctor promoting a cigarette. But then they went to the Marlboro Man and that seemed like it was, that's the first time it made it look really cool.

Starting point is 00:45:40 The first Marlboro Man, actually five of the Marlboro Men have died of lung cancer. Five of them? Yeah. How many have there been? Six. Really?

Starting point is 00:45:49 I don't know. Yeah. Not for long. What if there's like 100 of them and you're like, oh, well. It's not too bad. It's not too bad. Yeah, maybe like the sixth guy, you're like, ugh. Arnie, the brand, the nickname Cowboy Killer.

Starting point is 00:46:02 Were they? So this is an old advertisement from... I can't find the year on here. More doctors smoke camels than any other cigarettes. He's one of the busiest men in town. While his doors may say office hours two to four, he's actually on call 24 hours a day. The doctor is a scientist, a diplomat,

Starting point is 00:46:21 and a friendly, sympathetic human being all in one, no matter how long and how hard a schedule. I don't know if I believe. Well, why is your office hours only two to four? Like, that's, and he's going to call 24 hours a day. Of course, you're barely in the office. This whole ad is not even to make, you know. Like, they almost are like, they got this guy, and they're like, do you work all day?

Starting point is 00:46:42 He goes, yeah, dude, it's all day. You go, all right. But your office hours, like, because people don't walk by this all we could have made up these hours but they're like let's be honest what days are you actually here he goes i come in 2 to 4 p.m but you're on call 24 hours a day he goes yeah i mean essentially you could call me at any point but there's no cell phone so i if i'm not home i don't hear hear the phone call. How could he even be on call 24 hours a day? They didn't have cell phones then. He's like, well, just call my office.

Starting point is 00:47:09 I know, but you're only in here 2 to 4 p.m. He goes, but if you catch me in those hours, I will come back at 8 o'clock and do the surgery. Could you not ash in my liver? He goes, well, where do you want me to ash? Anybody that had surgery back then, you had to get an ashtray just laid on your chest

Starting point is 00:47:29 and you're just, and they just went in and, you're going to put me to sleep? We haven't invented that yet. Your smoke is too great on here. Oh, you just get burned a little bit. Oh, it's just also. There was a cart, they use cartoons. Even though his. Oh, it's just also. There was a cart.

Starting point is 00:47:46 They use cartoons. Even though his office hours are 2 to 4 p.m. I don't. As a doctor, they got to work more than that. I think they mean they're doing surgery or seeing patients the rest of the time. Like from 2 to 4 is when he'll meet with you and consult. That does not come off like that at all. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:48:02 That sounds, even though his office hours say two to 4 PM, who wrote it? That guy. I mean, that's like, I don't think his wife would believe that honey 24 hours a day, but it, but you only go to work two to four,

Starting point is 00:48:19 two to 4 PM. Make sure you sleep in. Those are my hours. I'd kill for those hours. I do shows two to 4 PM.m make sure you sleep in those are my hours i'd kill for those hours i do shows 2 to 4 p.m smoke a cigarette he barely works more than me and i'm a stand-up comedian actually he doesn't when i do two shows he does not work more than me he's on call 24 hours a day i mean you can call me yeah but i mean technically i have the same hours of a doctor, 2 to 4 p.m. And do you recommend Campbell cigarettes more than any other cigarette?

Starting point is 00:48:52 Yeah. I mean, smoke away. Do whatever you want to do. I don't know. If your kid don't smoke. There was cartoons would promote cigarettes. The Flintstones had, I think I sent you that. Yeah. They would use Barney Rubble and Fred Flintstone to promote cigarettes. The Flintstones had, I think I sent you that. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:49:05 They would use Barney Rubble and Fred Flintstone to promote cigarette use. And it was actually pretty funny. They showed the women out front working and they're just hanging out. He's like, man, these women are really working.

Starting point is 00:49:18 And Fred says, yeah, you want to go in the back so we can't see them? Yeah. It's pretty funny. That's pretty funny. And then they just go back there and smoke cigarettes.

Starting point is 00:49:24 Wow. And promote it. Wow. That's pretty funny. And then they just go back there and smoke cigarettes and promote it. Wow. That's so crazy. Pretty great. I love the, you know, now we're in such a time of like, you can't say anything. There's a watch and everything's like, don't say anything ever bad.

Starting point is 00:49:39 You know, they think everybody's doing whatever they're saying. And back then they were just like, just straight up. The cartoon, the number one cartoon in the world is telling you to go smoke a cigarette. There's him headed to the back. Yeah. And he's about to pull out. Winston is unbelievable, man. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:50:06 We should almost go back to this. I think it would just, everybody would be like, it's a better time. You'd be like, don't smoke. It's obviously going to make you, it's not good. Well, so many of these recent ads I read about that got in trouble. It's always something, either someone deemed sexist or racist. And it's just frustrating because I that got in trouble. It's always something, either someone deemed sexist or racist. And it's just frustrating because I remember working in TV news.

Starting point is 00:50:29 Do you believe it? Some of these, I do. Some of these, I would, because I remember working in TV news, and people would call, and they'd be upset about something just, they would find something wrong. One of the ones recently, Heineken Light Beer ran an ad that lighter is better. And people got upset about it because they said that was promoting skin color is better.

Starting point is 00:50:50 Oh, talking about a light beer versus none? Yeah. And it was like lighter is better. Yeah, but that's the stuff that you can't. If that's what that person thinks in their head, that's their fault. I agree. So that's on them. That's on them to be like, well, you have a problem actually.

Starting point is 00:51:04 Because other people are just like, yeah, they want to drink a light beer versus heavy beer. So that's really on them, and they should just throw it back on them and go like, that's your own issues, and actually you're probably racist for thinking of that because we're just talking about beer. And if you pulled that out of it, I don't know what you want. Then we can't say anything.

Starting point is 00:51:21 And so that's on you. Yeah, people criticize them saying that you guys were being racist, but I agree with you. It seemed like they're not even thinking in those terms. So people think it's, it's hard to like, it's hard to sometimes remember, like most people are not like,

Starting point is 00:51:39 they're just like looking at it and their, their days are busy. You got to think we're not breaking down every single thing yeah and but we have people now and there seems like the jobs are to break down every single thing and uh so they can find anything in any you know in anything and so i agree with you i know i broke that down i don't really care about that i was just asking because people, that's an example of things you've got to look out for. Yeah. Who do you want it to be, Ron Tannehill? Effective condition, do you know what that is?

Starting point is 00:52:17 No. You major in marketing, right? Yeah, marketing, but advertising is only one little corner of marketing. Yeah. You know the four Ps of marketing? No, I do not. Pleasure. Performance.

Starting point is 00:52:31 Poor people, because you all attack them. That's two. Yeah. Is it poor people? No. Because you all go after them super hard. Advertising, that's all it is, is ruining poor people's lives. Is it not? I don't know. Advertising. that's all it is, is ruining poor people's lives. Is it not?

Starting point is 00:52:46 I don't know. I don't know. You trick them. So promotion is one of these P's, and that's where advertising falls in. Okay. This is one of the few concrete things I remember from college, is the four P's of marketing. You think about product, place, promotion, and price. What did you say?

Starting point is 00:53:12 Pie. I think it's price. Those are the four P's of pie. And poor people. And poor people. What's an example of place? Place is like how something's delivered, what channel it comes through, how you get it. Where does it exist and how do you get it?

Starting point is 00:53:31 Like the front of a display at a grocery store. Channel 5. Or sure. Yeah. Channel 5 or like a truck that ships it to you. All that is place, how it gets there. So that's a whole company and their job is they're called place. Do they walk under a all that is place how it gets there so that's a whole company and their job is they're called place do they walk under a sign that says place no no i feel like the four p's like

Starting point is 00:53:55 they probably started that and then they got to place they were like we need one they've already they've already done the p's and so i guess place because that doesn't feel like that goes. What are the other ones? Promotion. Product. Product. That makes sense. What it is you're selling. Yeah, price makes sense.

Starting point is 00:54:10 I think price is the other one. I would imagine product was the first one. They go, it's the guy invented this, because it's the four P's. He goes product, and they go, wow, that's good. And then he's like, can't think of price, place, and promotion. Promotion kind of makes sense yeah so maybe it goes product promotion and they're like oh this is good and you should have said just two p's this should be the two p's and then he goes uh also price and place and they go i guess so yeah i can see price yeah place yeah that's the price of discounts and everything else.

Starting point is 00:54:45 So advertising falls into, advertising is one of the promotion. It's one part of marketing. I see. I got another P. Oh, yeah? Puffery. Oh, love Puffery. You know this?

Starting point is 00:54:57 Big fan. Do you really know what Puffery is? Yeah. Well, it's when you exaggerate a product like, coldest beer in town best burger east of the mississippi funniest comedian nicest comedian in the business whatever yeah i like it something like it's something that people don't take literal but you just you puff yourself up exaggerate yeah where no reasonable person would think you actually that's not a great example like uh like

Starting point is 00:55:25 we like the best deals in town you know or whatever then you're like well that's not a real you're not making a real concrete claim about your deals it's just it's puffery it's just like yeah well like james gregory would cause himself the funniest man in america that would be puffery all right yeah exactly so it's legal it's legal to do that yeah even if it's not true that's why every restaurant you see like number, like, number one. You go walk around New York City, every place is best slice of New York. Yeah. You're like, we can't all say that.

Starting point is 00:55:52 Yeah. It's just puffery. Yeah, but, like, TV news, we all had. See how his stuff is broad and yours is very specific? What do you mean? All your stuff was, like, even for your examples, they're just very, like, pizza year all your stuff was like even for your examples are just very like uh pizza and all the stuff and yours are all like it's me james gregory like it's like there's you go so personal and his are just probably the real examples that they use like best deal in town

Starting point is 00:56:19 hottest cars on the market and yours is like nicest man and stand up that's fake james gregory funniest fan like james is very funny yeah i would say that but it comes off is that am i wrong it's kind of just it's funny that yours is very broad i would think you'd want more specific than broad uh i don't know It depends if the other person on the other side of it gets hurt, but you know. The tables have turned. Oh, the turntables. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:56:53 Sometimes though they go too far and then there's a lawsuit. Kellogg's was promoting that the Rice Krispies improve a child's immunity. 25% daily value of antioxidants and nutrients and the wild west back then man that's so great you could just like uh i mean 2011 oh wow they said that then that's crazy golly that is just thick it made their immunity better yep vitamins a b c and e because the because the gas station had to go buy it was pretty rough and that's why that's the like we go buy it in there like there's a lot of walking there maybe it is like don't wear shoes and go buy rice krispies look at the cereal box

Starting point is 00:57:36 now help support your child's immunity as big as the name of the cereal. They're really leaning into that. 25% daily value. It didn't do that? No. Kellogg's agreed to pay $2.5 million to affected consumers as well as donate $2.5 million worth of Kellogg's products to charity. So the solution

Starting point is 00:58:00 is just to give this fake immunity to more people? I mean, that's like... That's... I don't even, what is wrong with everybody? In 2013, Kellogg agreed to pay $4 million for false advertising when they said their frosted mini-wheats improved children's attentiveness, memory, and cognitive functions. When was that? 2013.

Starting point is 00:58:23 Two years after this, they didn't even learn their lesson they don't even it doesn't even matter clinically shown to approve intentiveness by nearly 20 well and these aren't subtle claims that they make on the side of the box i mean they are the star of the show these claims you're gonna see it like i like we're talking about with sugar sugar is like uh you know i was because i'm addicted to it and uh i'm trying to get off i'm trying to be better uh and i do love all this stuff but sugar is going to be a big big problem that's the new i know people have said it but it's like that's the new tobacco sugar sugar is a big it's a big

Starting point is 00:58:59 problem so it's a big something we were talking about somewhere and it's like the only thing that everybody can be addicted to it. Like, you know, people are not going to do drugs, people are not going to smoke, people are not, like, all this kind of stuff. Sugar is the only thing that, like, it can make everybody addicted. And it's a free-for-all, and they run the world. Like, it's like, it's just, you have no control over it. It's in everything, you don't even know. You don't even, I mean, you can't even almost not get it in stuff.

Starting point is 00:59:22 Like, you can't even, you know, they make it so confusing. And it's like it's hard not to. I ate ice cream last night. I'm waiting tonight. I eat sour. I mean, I have sour. You already know you're going to eat it tonight. I already know I'm going to.

Starting point is 00:59:35 Laura's supposed to buy an extra one. She didn't last night, so I got to go out and do it myself. Someone's got to do it. Someone's got to wear the pants in his family. I'm going to do it. I can't say no to it. I have a big problem. I'm eventually going to

Starting point is 00:59:47 get off this stuff, but I'm going to have someone come on the road and help me. But for now, you're going to... I'm going to drop away quick soon.

Starting point is 00:59:54 When? Starting February 20th. I got him bringing someone with me on the road. Nice. Nutritionist? He's a barber. But... He knows some stuff. He knows some some stuff he's read some stuff on the internet it's my barber uh and but he also knows fitness stuff i think i have to i i i'm

Starting point is 01:00:16 it's not that i'm miserable out there but it's like i can't i'm i'm i'm way too in deep like to do it on my own and to schedule like this weekend was like it's a perfect example of like there's it was Pensacola we get to Pensacola we drive New Orleans at night go to bed wake up two shows we go eat at uh Felix's actually this great place uh we go eat there you know you're eating New Orleans food and then do two shows and then drive to Dallas overnight, wake up at Bucky's parking lot and then eat. It's just like I don't know how to. I can't. There's just too much stuff.

Starting point is 01:00:58 And so if I want to do stuff, I've talked about that here. If I want to do stuff, I have to get this under control and i'm fortunate enough to be able to do this i really my guy's a barber but he's uh well we learned in the middle ages episode that barbers were also doctors there you go that's right that's where the swirl thing came from yeah yeah there you go so i'm doing that i'm going to school minor surgeries done on the road he can handle those you can handle that does he smoke go so i'm doing that i'm going to school minor surgeries done on the road he can handle those he can handle that does he smoke uh no i'm gonna try to get him to you from two to four from two to four p.m so i'll let him only smoke then but i'll but then that will be

Starting point is 01:01:38 i'm hoping if i can't lose weight like this then i'll just then i'll never not that i'm big but it's like i can't like i'm gonna have a I'll never. Not that I'm big, but it's like, I can't. I'm going to have a heart attack out there or something. It's bad. I went and got a blood test actually the other day. Yeah, it's more about being healthy than losing weight. Yeah, I don't think I'm, yeah. But I mean, my body stinks.

Starting point is 01:01:58 It's just stupid. It's really dumb. It's like, I mean, I just look at it and you're like, it's so dumb looking. It's just, your stomach sticks out, nipples are just pointing God knows where, different directions, just like, you know. It's just dumb. And I just don't want it to be dumb anymore. I'm 42.

Starting point is 01:02:25 I'm like, I can't. You should go on Dr. Phil. Yeah. I just don't want my nipples to go different directions. Why are they pointing in every direction? Why do they not? If you drew a straight line, they would never intersect with each other. They would never be near each other.

Starting point is 01:02:39 They would only get farther and farther away. For eternity. The closest they will ever be is just on my body and then if you drew the line they would be like all right man have a good life have a good life and then they would shoot off into other directions and they would never even be they'd be so 100 years from now they would not even be they live in different countries yeah there's just no chance for them ever to meet again. There's never even a little curve back to be like, well, maybe they're crossing.

Starting point is 01:03:06 It's just, see you later. At least if they went straight, they would at least be like, oh, yeah, he's right there. Stay side by side. Side by side. Mine are just a dumb stomach. It's just stupid. But I'm not starting until the 20th.

Starting point is 01:03:21 So I'm on a tear right now. You have 13 days to get after it. I got 13 days to just like, it is happening, dude. And I'm going to try to, he's good at like, because he's like, it's just calorie take, whatever. So like we can still eat, like I'll be able to like, you know, it's like I could technically go to McDonald's and go eat. But it's calories in, calories out. I mean, I want to get healthy, but I'm still not going'm still not gonna i'm not gonna bail on i will still eat some sour patch kids i like i don't want to give up everything forget who you are what got me here

Starting point is 01:03:53 i just want to be where i can wear a shirt and it feels great that would be so nice you know yeah no trust me i get it i'm gonna wear this i go albert can we get this a little bigger the logo on every shirt could you get it could you get a little bigger maybe make it the mountainy just so you get confused by that that's what i bought i bought a uh i bought one this weekend at the store in pensacola, a hoodie, and it's got three. I almost wish if Laura could bring, see if Laura would bring that hoodie up. Because it's a perfect cover your nipples hoodie. There's a lot of relief on it, like it sticks out.

Starting point is 01:04:36 No, there's no relief, but there's a lot of confusion right in that area. A lot of patterns? Yeah, a lot of patterns. It's just like a lot of, I don't think you could really tell what's going on. It's just distracting. It's like the Grand Canyon? Yeah, yeah. 3D art?

Starting point is 01:04:50 Yeah, it's just, it's kind of ridiculous. That's all. And I just want to get to that. I want to get, I'm hoping this special shoot, I'll be in, you better tell. And I don't want to, I don't think it'll make me less funny. This is the problem I had when I quit drinking is like it was like

Starting point is 01:05:07 you think well my story's about drinking is so funny you think I can't be funny and so well I quit drinking it's still going good

Starting point is 01:05:14 and then so it's like with eating you're like well my story but then you're like I mean I'm still dumb I don't think I can get smarter that's something I can't do

Starting point is 01:05:22 that's where all the jokes come from is me being dumb so you know I think I'm good I can get smarter. That's something I can't do. That's where all the jokes come from is me being dumb. So, you know, I think I'm good. When does your special tape?

Starting point is 01:05:31 I don't know. But when it does. When it does, I don't know. Hopefully taped in the fall. Yeah. So, yeah,

Starting point is 01:05:39 maybe if I lose, I could be in real good shape by then. I just want to, you know, but I don't know. Maybe I won't be maybe i'm gonna hire him it's not gonna work out well you on one of your special i think you should comedy central you commented on that didn't you yeah said we're trying to lose weight and here we are yeah every

Starting point is 01:05:55 special has been like that yeah i try then you go here we are i got a beard it looks better but it's just like it's my i think my insides are not good it's that's the you know that's a pretty important part yeah a lot of people say it's the main part you know uh it's uh yeah it's not it looks rough yeah the older you get the harder it yeah it's like you're yeah it's like it's it's hard to like you know keep it up But it's like in the road, you're just like, we have so many shows, man. And I want to do all these shows and I want to be in great moods when I do these shows. And I am. I mean, I'm not in bad moods when I do these shows, but I'm just looking at the future

Starting point is 01:06:36 and I'm going like, if I'm going to be this busy and as busy as I want to be and do the shows I want to go do, I cannot do this if I don't fix this. And I can't. And I'm fortunate enough to be able to have someone be like, you got to just be with me, dude. And like, or otherwise I won't do it. And then, you know, it's like, it's to getting decisions out of your life. I've learned like, if you, the more stuff you want to go do, you got to get decisions. to getting decisions out of your life. I've learned like if you, the more stuff you want to go do,

Starting point is 01:07:04 you got to get decisions. If you get busier, you have to get the decisions that bog you down out. Like someone else has got to make those decisions for you. And that's how I look at it. Like what you got, my sister's working.

Starting point is 01:07:15 Like, you know, it's like she's helping with a lot. It's like you just kind of get decisions. Abigail's helping with a lot of like when I've met people and stuff after a show and like that kind of stuff. And it's like able to like, yeah, I can't,

Starting point is 01:07:25 I won't be able to track everything I can track and then also do this. It's why these billionaires wear the same outfit every day because they're eliminating those kinds of decisions. She doesn't have it. I have no idea where it's at. Look in the, uh, Oh man. Is laura not here it's a it's a hoodie i bought at this all right it doesn't matter what color i don't know

Starting point is 01:07:52 colorblind she's my abigail sticks that to me every time what color is it that's how she you know did you say billionaires wear the same thing yeah i'm thinking that's that's got to be the same thought process you just yeah and look i'm a billionaire i recently became one and and and laura still goes i don't know if we should do that i think if i became a billionaire i would still just be like just get two loaves of bread we can afford it well i don't know we We need about two loafs of bread. That'd be the rest of my life.

Starting point is 01:08:31 77% of Twitter users appreciate a brand more when that brand tweets back to respond to them. It takes about 10 hours on average for businesses to respond to a tweet, even though customers want a response within four hours. Well, I think you'd want one immediately, but I guess on average four.

Starting point is 01:08:48 Yeah. Whose job is it to take the time to ask that, to get to the bottom of that? How many hours? Yeah, I just don't. There's a lot of jobs that you're like, what are y'all making jobs out of? You're just making them out of nothing.

Starting point is 01:09:03 You're just sandwiching in anything. You're like, you want to figure it out? And figure out and some companies like yeah i'd love to know like the algorithm world i think is just invented jobs i mean we're talking about it but it's like i don't know if i needed all that information like they do it within 10 hours but we'd like it in four like who's responding? They get these people do these surveys, man. They ask them all these questions. How you interact with brands on social media.

Starting point is 01:09:31 Yeah. Tell me how many brands do you follow on social media? Do you share their content often? They'd ask them all these questions. Do you ever complain about a company on social media? You know what? I'd made a joke about one once and they responded and we had a back and forth about welch's fruit snacks yeah those are great they are great yeah but the joke i had was it says in real big letters it says fruit is the first ingredient i was like who cares

Starting point is 01:09:59 what the first one is what's all the others you know yeah first ingredient of meth is medicine that was the joke i made and then they responded back they were like they just not funny at all just like clarified what that means then i went back and they came back it was kind of fun it's fun to see like a brand you've heard of yeah even though you know it's some guy like me is it wendy's like wendy's is fun right yeah a lot of fast food chains are like that yeah taco bell will do that too i think i like that like it Bell will do that too, I think. I like that. It's like you just roast people and don't care.

Starting point is 01:10:28 Just be fun. When I interned at that advertising company, they give you these jobs that are just time killers. It's this job that we just talked about. No, but have you heard of Takati, the beer? Yeah. So the company I worked at ran takati's facebook so part of what i would have to do is respond to every comment but i'd have to use the word bold because that was their whole marketing campaign so i just had to think of creative ways to use the word bold so somebody

Starting point is 01:10:59 would be like about to drink a couple takatis at lunch today and i'd be like about to drink a couple of Takatis at lunch today. And I'd be like, bold decision, brother. I'm going out tonight, going to grab a six pack of Takatis. That's a bold move. I just had to do that for hours, respond to every comment. So there's somebody sitting there doing all that, having a good time with it. Do you like it when people go after companies on no social media i'm not a fan people do it with airlines all the time i think it's it's crazy i think it comes off and i i know a lot of friends i've known that done it but i i

Starting point is 01:11:36 think it comes off really bad i think it does not look good i i almost i think uh in a weird way but i i don't think i mind if like uh i don't like if a celebrity does it or someone, you know, I don't like that. I think that's kind of gross. Because there's leveraging their following. Yeah. It's like, it's like you're using your people that are following you because you don't like the seat that you got or that you're delayed or that you're, I'm not a big airline complainer though. And I'm not saying that they do the best job and everything and not that i've had problems and but i'm not i some reason which was the whole was traveled like not to bring that again but

Starting point is 01:12:16 i traveled with a cow for a long time and and they uh And they – no, but like some reason I could go – like I would never – I don't get super upset about delays. I don't get super upset about – I could get getting mad. I just like – I get complaining to that person. To me, I don't understand saying it on twitter to be like american you don't do the thing that i want you to do and then you're tweeting it and you're like look at all the followers i got i'm gonna tell my people that like that's kind of very arrogant to me and very like it just feels kind of gross uh i understand if someone that's

Starting point is 01:13:01 not i think you got to just like DM them or something. Sorry. I don't know. It doesn't make sense. At the very least, it should be a last resort, right? I mean, it's like, I don't got my bags. I don't got, it's like a very like, yeah, dude, so does other people. Like, why do you get yours fixed over everybody else? The average person gets 1,700 banner ads per month,

Starting point is 01:13:25 but only sees half of them. Banner ads like that, like on your phone and when it does the cross and says it, yeah, the ads, I, you know, I mean,

Starting point is 01:13:35 we're, we read ads on this, uh, but it's like the ads are just, they're everywhere. 70 to 8% of users ignore sponsored search results. You know, like you Google something. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:13:50 Sometimes I would click on it because I thought, does the company get a money for it or something? No, they're paying to be up there. Oh. Oh. Yeah. Well, you want to make their money. If I don't think they're going to do something wrong to my computer,

Starting point is 01:14:05 I would click on it just to be like, if you're paying to be up there at the top, good for you. Like, I'll support you. You've earned it. You've earned it. Yeah. But don't go blowing me up, you know. But then the thinking would be, well,

Starting point is 01:14:19 I want to get what is actually the best search result and not somebody who's paid to circumvent the system, right? Oh, I want the real answer. That's the thing. I want the real answer, not just somebody who paid to get up there. And I found myself, yeah, I'm trained to, when I search for something, I automatically scroll past that. Yeah. And find the top one.

Starting point is 01:14:40 90% of online searchers haven't made up their mind about a brand before they start searching. They don't look for certain brands. They look for lowest prices. I guess that was probably given. 90% of consumers read online reviews before visiting a business. And those reviews influence 67% of their decisions. I could see that. I could get influenced.

Starting point is 01:15:04 You try to find somewhere you trust. I do it like movies. I'll look. You Google a movie. It's always like Amazon or IMDb. One of them is where it's very like, they're always like, everything's amazing. I think it's Amazon.

Starting point is 01:15:20 Every movie is the greatest movie ever. I think that's just regular people, and it could be. So I think I tend to go with regular people over. Like Rotten Tomatoes gives you both. Yeah. But I'll usually go to Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah, I'll just go with the regular people because it's like,

Starting point is 01:15:35 I'm not going to watch the movie the way the other person is. The critics do. Yeah. 60% Olympus has fallen. It should be higher than that. It was great. But two-thirds of them like it, only half like – the critics like it. Yeah, but that – now I feel like you're being – it's a fun movie.

Starting point is 01:15:55 What are they – who's watching these movies? I would – I'm not a good – don't come to me and ask me if something's good. I'm going to say it's great. I don't know. And a great chance I won't remember it. You know what I watched last night that probably didn't get good reviews, but it's a fun movie, is Con Air. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:16:14 Never seen it. Is it Harrison Ford? No. Nicolas Cage. It's great. Even better. Probably think about Air Force One maybe. You should watch Con Air.

Starting point is 01:16:22 Con Air is great. Yeah. It's just fun. Yeah. John Cusack, John M john malcolm i think people like it i think yeah this is a maybe you're right i there's 56 percent yeah that's a rotten tomato dude i bet the audience score is much higher yeah they're uh i don't think it should be higher all All right. It's not loaded, so I can't. People just listen to this on the audio. That's unreal, dude. You should give this podcast zero tomatoes.

Starting point is 01:16:53 I hope you roll down your window and throw a tomato out. 75% audience score. That's good. That's a C. Go to the audience, man. The audience, that's who we are. It's the people, dude. Now, if you're into movies i understand the critics like if you're like hey i'm a i this is like a hobby is not a hobby critics but like

Starting point is 01:17:11 if you're like if you're someone that's not a critic but you're like i love and i know a lot of people that i wish i could appreciate movies as much as they could so there i understand but i like the write-up there conair won't win any awards for believability and all involved seem cheerfully aware of it, making some of this blockbuster action outing the biggest flaws fairly easy to forgive. There you go. It's not believable. We're just along for the ride. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:17:34 That's what this is about. Some of the worst marketing campaigns. American Airlines was running low on money. This is 1981. They were about to go bankrupt. So they did a thing where you could pay $250,000 and get a lifetime first-class travel pass. Wow. It backfired on people used it so much that they were losing money. They only sold 65, but they had to stop because people were just going to London on their lunch break. Because it was the richest people who

Starting point is 01:18:03 were buying it. So they were just doing it all the time. They lost over $50 million before they could get it stopped. Only 65? How much is 65, 250 grand? Like, it's... Yeah, that doesn't make sense, does it? No. 65 times 250 grand, that's...

Starting point is 01:18:21 Well, I guess if you keep using it over and over, they didn't take it away from you, but they stopped the thing. 16,250 guess if you keep using it over and over, they didn't take it away from you, but they stopped the thing. 16,250,000. How did they lose? Because they could have charged like 10 grand for those tickets? Maybe, yeah. To me, 250,000 seems like a lot to pay for it, but they said they were using it so much that it quickly exceeded what they paid it.

Starting point is 01:18:41 Yeah. And I guess they could still be using it to this day. Like if it was like, I bet it was like companies, and maybe they're just like they're flying every other day and they're losing those seats. I don't know. I feel like that's, how'd you not get it? I think American Airlines should have done something better.

Starting point is 01:19:00 They should have been able to figure it out. Like, you know, that was 1981. You had to go buy it at the – probably write a check for 250 grand at the counter. Airline tickets probably cost more then than they do now. Yeah, how do you pay for that? You just got to go up there and – It's called an AA pass. I have the companion pass on Southwest.

Starting point is 01:19:24 That's a good – Southwest is great. That's an unbelievable perk. Yeah. I think it's awesome. We had it one year, and I don't think we really used it. And I wish we would have, but you could – I think the companion pass, that's the real deal. Southwest is great.

Starting point is 01:19:39 Southwest really does great. And then I fly Delta a lot. I don't mind all of – I like them all. I like Delta a lot, and I fly Delta a lot. I don't mind all of, I like them all. I like Delta a lot and I fly Delta the most, but, uh, I love Southwest. I do. I think Southwest is great. They got to figure it out. Burger King tried a thing where they went to Thailand to find people had never eaten a hamburger to compare their Whopper against the Big Mac.

Starting point is 01:20:01 And people got really upset about it. Um, saying that 30% of the country can't even afford a hamburger and most people are living in poverty. So it was a bad idea to use them as the country to go test this out. I think I remember this ad. They just kind of dropped a hamburger in front of these people. I don't know. I think Burger King did that.

Starting point is 01:20:24 They went to some part of the world where they were not familiar with hamburgers. Yeah. And they just put a hamburger in front of them and they were like, how would you eat this? Yeah. You didn't even think about it. We know how to eat a hamburger because we've seen it. Yeah. And they're just like, some of them come in from the top and try to eat it.

Starting point is 01:20:39 Really? Yeah, if you've never seen one. Yeah. You know? That's interesting. Yeah. Like a banana.'ve never seen one. Yeah. You know? That's interesting. Yeah. Like a banana. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:20:47 Different ways. Yeah. That's exactly. But is it like we were shoving it in their face? No, no. It was just something about the burger. I don't remember the point of the ad. But I'm saying that's what people argued about.

Starting point is 01:21:00 Yeah, they were saying hunger exists in this country, and 30% of the people there can't even afford a hamburger. Yeah, and then I get that. Okay. This is my favorite one. 2006, LifeLock came up with a campaign to promote the credentials of LifeLock. So the CEO put his social security number on a billboard showing how we're so secure, we can't get away with this. board showing how we're so secure we can't get away with this hackers um found a way to get through it and the guy got hacked 13 times identity theft oh wow his name's todd davis

Starting point is 01:21:34 fake todd davis has popped up around the country racking up debt and humiliating blow for a company um the ceo had fallen victim to constant identity theft prove their product doesn't work the CEO had fallen victim to constant identity theft, proved their product doesn't work. If that worked, that would have been unbelievable. You're the greatest. Yeah. I mean, you would be, that's a big risk.

Starting point is 01:21:55 Well, kudos to him for actually putting his real. Yeah. I would put a fake one up there. And just say that's my real. And I guess you can't, if it's someone else's real one, you're, I mean, they could sue you for. Yeah. If it ever got out.

Starting point is 01:22:09 Yeah, like to him, it's just like bad luck. But LifeLock still does, they're still around. I think so. Yeah. DuPont, good old DuPont. They were the first company in the US to manufacture cellophane, a product to keep food fresh. In 1953, they released advertisements of babies wrapped in cellophane product to keep food fresh in 1953 they release advertisements uh of babies wrapped in cellophane just keep them fresh yeah it didn't go over well i sent you the

Starting point is 01:22:34 uh oh you can just look them up there's a couple yeah i mean it's exactly what we're describing yeah they're just babies wrapped in saran wrap. Yeah. And then so people got upset about that. I don't know if they even did back at the time. I think later on you look back, you're like, what were they thinking? Yeah. I don't know if anybody even complained then.

Starting point is 01:22:55 Yeah. Maybe they did. Cellophane is spelled like cell phone, but with an A. No. If you got rid of the A move the o forward i mean yeah if you said hey you got the a you go and then they get oh jump up to now we got cell phone it's it's funny the things they're the selling points of cellophane are things that we take for granted so much like this is the main selling point you see the things you buy no guesswork so what were people

Starting point is 01:23:32 wrapping stuff up in in your fridge before cellophane just tinfoil well they're saying is you see the things you buy no i mean i i would take it as like you go get like a chicken at the grocery store. It's written in like Christmas wrapping paper. And you're like, I want this chicken. You're like, I hope that's right. Like you can't see the chicken. That's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:23:56 Yeah. So what was – that's so obvious now. But that's a selling point back then. They go, you're going to be able to see what's through this. Yeah. Well, that picture of the stork holding a baby you can see what he's carrying yeah where's that right here yeah yeah i understand that but that's i mean i agree with you that's part of the selling point it's it's a something you can carry and it's clear right well what were you what were what were you using before cellophane sacksacks. Oh, yeah, maybe sacks. Like burlap sacks?

Starting point is 01:24:27 Yeah. As far as wrapping food, you didn't have leftovers back then. You ate it then or you're not going to eat it. You finished your plate back then. Well, if you bought a baby, you'd want to be able to see it. I wouldn't buy a baby unless – would you buy a baby out of a bag or a cell phone? Cell thing. You want to get a look at what you're buying. You want to get a – can I open the top of the bag?

Starting point is 01:24:48 And he goes, no. Then I'm going to go to the cell phone factory and buy a baby out of there. At least I can see them. The devil you know. MasterCard did a promotion in 2018 World Cup where every goal that Lionel Messier or Neymar scored, ocean in 2018 world cup where every goal that lionel messier or namar scored they would give 10 000 meals to children in latin america and the caribbean to help in starvation but the stars only they only scored three goals so people got upset that the campaign not only didn't work that they're using it to exploit starvation no so they only gave like 30 000 meals yeah i think Yeah, I think they stopped it even before he got over.

Starting point is 01:25:27 The Titans do something similar. They work with Second Harvest Food Bank. Sack for, like every time the Titans get a sack, they give like 100 mils to Second Harvest Food Bank. Raising the stakes for those players, dude. If they don't play well, people are going to starve to death. That's your Harold Landry. Yeah, he got 12, so he did his job.

Starting point is 01:25:44 He did his job. I think about that with the college football halftime show where they make those kids throw the football in to earn a college tuition. Right. Doesn't it feel a little weird to be basing whether these kids can afford to go to college on this game? I think they're already going to college.

Starting point is 01:26:00 They're already in it, so it's like they get it for free or not. Yeah, but to base that on – But you're not pulling out a high school senior, and you're like he's going to go work at a factory, he's going to go to college. Like you're – I mean, that might be more interesting to go like, his whole family's got to watch,

Starting point is 01:26:15 and is he going to be the first one that gets to college, or is he not? I don't know. You've got to throw this Dr. Pepper bottle, and your whole family line relies on that. I mean, it's like kids that are in school. This year, the SEC championship game, I think the two, one of them was studying to be a doctor. The other one was going to be an actor.

Starting point is 01:26:35 Oh, gosh. It's a little bit different. Everybody rooting for the doctor? I think he won. Okay, good. If you had to do that, would you, so statistically, you have a better chance of making it doing the chest pass. Yeah, I would do it.

Starting point is 01:26:47 You would do that and not care that you look lame doing it? I think it goes back to – yeah, I mean, I think you got to make it in. Yeah, or maybe do it. It's just easier to, like, you know, it's just quicker, I would imagine. If you did that and you didn't throw it the normal way, I'd boo you. Yeah, you'd boo you. Yeah, you would. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:27:11 Well, when you drive by your truck on your way to your day job because you didn't get into college, and I'm up there in my ivory tower looking at – When you're at Vol State, he's at Notre Dame. You'll feel stupid. As you do your stick shift and back out of your driveway to go to Vol State. And I'm floating to Notre Dame. Here's one that just came out a couple years ago.

Starting point is 01:27:36 People got upset about the Peloton holiday ad where the woman who's in perfect shape, her husband buys her a Peloton. Do you remember this? I don't know. They don't say this. Somebody tweeted't know. She goes from 100. They don't say this. Somebody tweeted.

Starting point is 01:27:47 It's great. She went from 116 pounds to 112. But people got really upset because she's great shape and her husband bought it for her. So they were saying that he shouldn't have done that. What? Because they're saying, why is he making her get in shape and lose weight?

Starting point is 01:28:02 She already looks great. Yeah, but that's how that's just like with someone like overly that's how they someone that's in shape wants to work out like they want a peloton yeah what do they want to do they don't see just you know aaron comes downstairs and his wife's lucy's like huh here's a peloton maybe try some celery we just got a Peloton. Oh, really? It gets delivered tomorrow.

Starting point is 01:28:28 Oh. Yeah. Good for you. That'll be me. Yeah, that doesn't... It's like that would be the... She wants a Peloton. I would imagine.

Starting point is 01:28:36 She's excited. She's super excited. She loves it. But then this next clip, she looks like she's being held hostage right there. She's like, well, he made me do the Peloton again today. That's what it looks like. Yeah. Well, the problem is she's doing selfie videos in bed and everywhere.

Starting point is 01:28:49 Like, that's more, I would be more mad at that to be like, just golly, live a life. Like, just, you come home and you're, you know, you're just in your phone all day. Yeah, I got her Peloton. Like, film something. I was the one to have to be interviewed here's my husband he's doing you're like oh just get her a peloton i'm not trying to get her in shape i'm trying to give her something to do yeah get her off my back uh there's nothing wrong with that commercial that's that would be one that

Starting point is 01:29:23 you read into that you'd like that's your problem then yeah you just go that's your fault no one reads into that she wants a peloton that's someone in shape they have to stay there's not like they act like people that part i have a joke now which i talk about it but like the part the problem is is they show someone that looks like that and then you know it's like but that's how they stay in shape. And I, but I think sometimes it's too, like when you read like ads to like someone that wants you to get healthy. I never, when they show someone like ripped and they tell you to do stuff and you're like,

Starting point is 01:29:53 I have a whole, I don't want to do the whole joke, but that's the problem. Cause they'll be like, do this and do that. And you're like, well, dude,

Starting point is 01:29:59 I don't even know how to, I mean, I'm eating handfuls of sour patch kids multiple times a day like i i'm you know what are you crazy you want me to just cut everything like just my life like i won't do it yeah and i don't do it i go i'm gonna do it and then i try it for a day then i don't do it but that that lady you know i mean peloton's been in the news lately because two big TV shows, someone's died of a heart attack while on a Peloton bike. Sex and the City and then Billions.

Starting point is 01:30:32 Yeah, but why? But it's just because it's like. I mean, they just wrote it in, but it's bad PR for them because people associate it. I don't know. I don't believe the bad PR. That's the people think people are dumb. If I saw that and a guy died of a heart attack on the Peloton,

Starting point is 01:30:51 I wouldn't go, honey, get rid of the Peloton. Apparently it kills you. Who does that? If your company go, we don't think our buyers are that stupid. So who cares? That'd be a good response. Yeah. yeah i'm sorry i don't think my buyers are stupid yeah sorry i don't think as little of my customers as you do yeah exactly that's how i do it you know what was a cool part though these advertising companies they get advanced copies of

Starting point is 01:31:19 every tv show out there because they have to make sure that they want to buy ads when the show's on and make sure it doesn't then conflicts with the show is. So I remember the, the, the place I interned this dude would get the advanced kind of here, like breaking bad and stuff. He just had it before anybody.

Starting point is 01:31:39 Yeah. It's a pretty cool little perk. And you'd get to watch it. No, they, they, they guard it. And you get to watch it with no ads.

Starting point is 01:31:46 Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So if someone wants to skip ads and they can't afford DVR, go work for advertising. And then hopefully you'll make enough for DVR when you're working there too. No, you won't ever have to buy one because you'll get the... Yeah, there's no reason to fast forward.

Starting point is 01:32:05 Yeah. The other one recently that got a lot of flack was the Kendall Jenner Pepsi commercial where the people were protesting downtown. This was just, again, a year or two ago. You remember this? Yeah, I kind of remember this. She takes the cop, the Pepsi,

Starting point is 01:32:22 and then everyone seems happy. Like, whatever it was, they're protesting is now over. And she walks up in the middle of a tense protest between the police. Yeah. And she's like, hey, y'all. She didn't say anything, but that's the attitude. Yeah, it's like two minutes in when she finally gets up there in the front of the line. She just sees people marching down the street and then finally goes outside,

Starting point is 01:32:45 see what's going on. Grabs a Pepsi. There she goes. Yeah. Pepsi Zero's great. That's what got Nate into Pepsi. No, there's been, I've done, Pepsi Zero's really good. I would, if she gave me a regular Pepsi, I would have thrown it back at her.

Starting point is 01:33:03 But if she gave me a Pepsi Zero, zero i would have been like hey that's where did you get this i mean pepsi zero is really good you know yeah yeah that commercials yeah like they're it's it's uh these companies think they're who do you think you are like you know that's the thing they think they're normal people and they get her to do it. She's a billionaire, right? Yeah. Like, it's like, yeah, she can do that.

Starting point is 01:33:30 She ain't drinking Pepsi. I drink Pepsi. I drink Pepsi Zero at every... Pepsi Zero is awesome. Like, it's... I love it. The most expensive ad ever was a $33 million ad for Chanel, number five. They got Nicole Kidman to be in it. Is most expensive ad ever was a $33 million ad for Chanel, number five.

Starting point is 01:33:46 They got Nicole Kidman to be in it. Is there a number four? Is there one, two, three, four? Is there one, two, three, four? Chanel? I don't know. I'm not the Chanel guy. We both look at you like, there he is.

Starting point is 01:34:00 Quick Aaron land up real quick. Number five is the one that they did it for. $33 million. Paid her $3 million. And they showed it. Who? Paid who? Nicole Kidman.

Starting point is 01:34:09 Okay. And they showed it. Didn't even show it on TV. Showed it before Bridget Jones, The Edge of Reason. Showed it before that movie. And that movie cost $40 million to make. Had before it cost $33 million to make. Wow.

Starting point is 01:34:26 It's like a small movie. I wouldn't be funny. What if they don't let us play this on the YouTube thing? And you're like, they spent $33 million. And then they're like, no, you don't have the rights to it. You're like. But I mean, wouldn't you want us? We're giving you free advertising.

Starting point is 01:34:40 Getting free advertising to nail number three. And they're like, it's five. I go, I don't know. Is there there other ones why is this one the best i don't know if i trust you chanel if you're already to five how much do you change your mind that's what i honestly chanel shouldn't do any numbers because he'd go i don't you look how much you guys are changing your mind you're already to five when were you invented as a company? 10 years ago? You're already blowing through whatever this is?

Starting point is 01:35:10 You're going too fast. I don't even know what this is. Is Chanel purses or is it? It's perfume, right? It's perfume? Number five? It's hard to do a commercial about a scent, isn't it? It's hard to do it.

Starting point is 01:35:22 It's hard to spend that much money if you're not narrowed down to one product. That's what I would think. Yeah. If you want to go, well, what about one, two, three, and four? Like, we don't care

Starting point is 01:35:32 about those. Five is what we're pushing now. So $33 million for five. I mean, she looks like she smells good in the commercial. Yeah, I bet she smells great.

Starting point is 01:35:45 I guess this is what you're trying to communicate. She's come to a show before. Yes. They're great. I haven't met them, but they're – I have no problem with her. I just don't understand. Is there other Chanel's?

Starting point is 01:36:00 They should do like what the iPhone did. Like do they have a 6 now? They have like probably like a Chanel 3S instead of just going all the way up to 5. Is there a Chanel 6? Let's look up what those numbers mean. Chanel 22? They're at Chanel 22 now? That's crazy.

Starting point is 01:36:21 There's Chanel number 22. Just keep going. What does it smell like? Now, this was released in 1922 or 1928. Either one. You decide. That's how Chanel 22 works. It was released in whatever year you want it to be released.

Starting point is 01:36:38 You're like, oh, I don't know. Either this one or that one. That's a catch-22. So it's a countdown. Getting down to No. 1. What does Chanel No. 22 smell like? Either this one or that one. That's a catch-22. So it's a countdown. Getting down to number one. Oh. What does Chanel 22 smell like? The perfect classical silky fragrance of this perfume is composed of gorgeous jasmine, orange blossom, fresh green note of lilac, and sweet rose.

Starting point is 01:36:59 I would just think if you were to spend $33 million, I would go like, hey, you know what? I mean, I guess Chanel number five is all I've ever heard about. It worked. How many? guess Chanel No. 5 is all I've ever heard about. It worked. How many? One Chanel N. Chanel N. It went on the letters, dude. Which Chanel No. 5. iPhones do that.

Starting point is 01:37:14 I almost think I would have. S-E. I would have. If I would have read this as the ad, I would have been like, Channel 5. Channel. $33 million to promote Channel 5. That's where Brian works. That's's where brian works like you go every channel five just gets to you know i'm rolling in it news channel five's with 33

Starting point is 01:37:32 million dollars out of that why is nicole kidman trying to get me to watch channel five i mean that's i don't you know i'm more of a snowbird type of guy i don't know if i'm she's out of her mind seems like a weird commercial for her chanel number five has been reinterpreted and reimagined in the new forms including an added toilet spray yeah dude there's a lot of different chanel number fives all right the beers uh diamond company have you heard of the beers no they um they cornered the market on diamonds for engagement rings diamonds most people think they're very rare yeah they're not rare they found tons of them in south african

Starting point is 01:38:18 mines but they knew that would drive down the price so they kept that information to themselves and people to this day think diamonds are very, very rare, which according to this, they're really not to keep the price up. And they convince people you got to buy a rare diamond to give to the person you're going to marry. So back until like 75 years ago, most people did not give diamond rings as engagement ring. But then their whole campaign convinced people to do that. To do it. Yeah. What did not give diamond rings as engagement ring but then their whole campaign convinced people do that to do it yeah what did they give them back then before diamond rings

Starting point is 01:38:51 um i think maybe just a regular ring or ruby or just uh a band maybe yeah they do that all the ads i mean look if you look at uh you, sometimes we've had people ask about the not drinking thing, but like you can read a few books. And I actually got one, Alan Carr, The Easy Way to Quit Sugar, Good Sugar, Bad Sugar. And I haven't started it yet, but because I'm on a tear right now. February 20th. February 20th. February 20th. And then, but it's, yeah, I'm going to eat ice cream tonight.

Starting point is 01:39:25 I'm sorry, but dude, I'm going to be, I'm a monster. Do you mix it up or you kind of have the same thing every night? I do chocolate ice cream in a cup and I pour milk in it. I learned it from my buddy Ryan Malone a long time ago. A milkshake, right? No, you don't make it milk. You just pour the milk on it and I stuff the cup full of chocolate ice cream. But I also do cookies and cream with chocolate syrup. I put a lot of chocolate syrup in it.

Starting point is 01:39:50 Your barber's got his work cut out for him. Yeah. He does. I mean, I put a lot of chocolate syrup. I love, I mean, it's crazy. I eat it alone. I make sure Laura goes to the bedroom or leaves the house like i don't come out here you don't even see what's going on out here get on out of here woman you can't this is man's work that's what i just say like i'm just plowing away i'll eat uh i mean i can eat so much ice cream yeah uh dipping dots this weekend that's twice have you have you guys ever seen ads that you know for a fact convince you to go buy something i don't know but this is the alcohol thing is when you read that is like you realize

Starting point is 01:40:31 that like alcohol you're just it's in your it's every it's everything it's they show bugs buddy sitting at a bar and gets a beer and it's like you just you associate fun with the only way for me to have fun and relax is alcohol. And actually, alcohol is the opposite. It won't let you. I mean, I get the idea. It makes you not care about your decisions. And so that's what you are kind of going for.

Starting point is 01:40:55 But alcohol is just like, you're just trained to, you don't even have a chance. I mean, you're a kid and it's just in every single thing that you see. Every TV show, every movie. this is how men decompress yeah they get home they pour a big you know glass of scotch they all do yeah uh i don't remember uh i'm trying to think of an ad i mean yeah i don't know i don't feel like i ever have because i feel like i ignore them but they always don't they say subconsciously you don't even realize that you're being influenced? Well, you know, isn't there something that's a name of something

Starting point is 01:41:29 that you think it is, one thing? Kleenex. Kleenex. Okay. Yeah, you never say, you know. Band-Aid. Yeah. Xerox.

Starting point is 01:41:38 Xerox. Styrofoam. Yeah, that's the name of it? Styrofoam is a brand name. Oh. It's not the name of what it is. What is it called? I don't know.

Starting point is 01:41:46 Yeah. I don't even know. Why would they not just call it that? What did the look of styrofoam's actual name is styrofoam? I don't even know. Is it Teflon? Is that something different? That's what stops a bullet, right?

Starting point is 01:42:00 Teflon? Styrofoam is a trademark named for a chemical compound called polystyrene polystyrene listerine uh i'd be like if someone came over and they're you're getting polystyrene like i don't know what that is that's like what smart people do you're getting polystyrene i don't know you have styrofoam yeah i got a ton of it but what let's leave the styrofoam room and let's go look for polystyrene you got mcdonald's i got a polystyrene room and let's go look for a pile of star rain. You got McDonald's. Can I get a pile of star rain cup?

Starting point is 01:42:27 Yeah. And they go, I don't know what you mean. I think you should leave. Yeah. All right, on this. This year's the Super Bowls this Sunday. Record sales for 30-second spots, $7 million for some 30-second spots. This year, it's not just on NBC.

Starting point is 01:42:42 It's also on Telemundo and the Peacock platforms. Seven million. One reason for its higher is attracting a greater number of rookie advertisers. People who have never bought on Super Bowl before. Instead of ending on the $33 million ad, you thought

Starting point is 01:43:03 I'll just save it and wait and do the $7 million as my final? Well, I just thought the Super Bowl is this Sunday, so maybe go out with something recent. That's a good time. They say this year they're calling it the Crypto Bowl because there's so many cryptocurrency ads. I can't stand that Matt Damon ad, dude. I see

Starting point is 01:43:20 that ad everywhere. Fortune favors the brave. I think I like the crypto stuff too, but I don't like that it's ads everywhere now for it. Now I don't trust it. You're almost like the bubble's about to burst now. Now I don't trust it at all. That it's so mainstream now. They took over and now I'm like, I don't, you know.

Starting point is 01:43:36 Because isn't that not the right quote? Fortune favors the brave, isn't it? That was the bold. It's been uttered since the Romans. It's fortune favors the brave. Oh, I thought he hit it wrong. I don't know. Oh, man, it is.

Starting point is 01:43:49 Fortune favors the bold. Fortune favors. And you had a job where your only job was to tell people bold? That's what you should have said. Did you ever do this? Fortune. And you never heard the most famous bold line? I was supposed to be responding to messages about what people were drinking beer that weekend. I think you

Starting point is 01:44:05 misspelled favors, but I don't know. Is that how you spell it? I spell it the American way. How do you spell it? No, I said they do. Yeah, I would spell it the way you do it. Oh, yeah. They throw the U in there. They throw the U in there. Yeah, it was the Brits. Maybe it's interchangeable,

Starting point is 01:44:22 but I always heard the bold. Click on, see, click on is it true that fortune favors the bold? Is that true? No. Fortune does not favor the bold. It does on a certain point favor those who calculated their chances, but nevertheless

Starting point is 01:44:37 one definite thing about fortune that is that it is indefinite. Fortune? Am I not saying that right? No, you are. It's just a ridiculous sentence. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:44:50 Nevertheless, one definite thing about fortune that it is indefinite. Yeah, you may have done a thorough analyst on how you will act on something and boldly believe that you will attain good luck upon it. What a, just a dumb sentence. Like that like that's a conversation that I couldn't handle. Crypto.com. If I walked into that and someone was like, is it true that fortune favors the bold? No, fortune does not favor the bold.

Starting point is 01:45:17 Well, it does on some, sometimes it does, but other times. Sometimes it's a diphthong. It calculated their chances, but nevertheless, one defined, one definite thing about fortune that it is indefinite. You'd be like, dude, I would just be in a fight with it. Like they would suddenly go, how'd that fight get started? You're like, I don't even know if I can explain it. It was some fortune favors the bold conversation.

Starting point is 01:45:41 And then it just got off the rails. It became a whirlwind. Yeah, a whirlwind. the rails. It was a whirlwind. It was a whirlwind. Matt Damon was there. Just Nate and Matt Damon fighting in a whirlwind. All right. That's it, everybody. We love you.

Starting point is 01:45:58 Can I promote a couple things? No. Okay. Oh, God. Here we go. I forget. We're not all selling out 6,000 cedars, dude. Yeah, go.

Starting point is 01:46:10 Go. No, I'm joking. Yeah, you can promote. I just forget. I don't know. That's okay. April 15th and 16th at Wise Guys. We're co-headlining.

Starting point is 01:46:17 That's on sale. We jumped the gun last week, but now it's on sale. Salt Lake City. Yep. Salt Lake City, everybody. April 15th and 16th. Yep. And this weekend, I'm in Cape Girardeau, Missouri at Laughing Gas Comedy Club.

Starting point is 01:46:28 And then the end of February, I'm at St. Louis Helium. I'm headlining. I've never headlined there. I'm very excited. That's great. It's a great club. It's exciting. March 4th and 5th, I'm with Leanne Morgan.

Starting point is 01:46:38 March 4th in Madison, Wisconsin. 5th in Minneapolis. So you can go to her website to get tickets there. And don't forget, February 22nd, the Facebook, Mainland Facebook fan page, Baby Shower. Oh, yeah. There you go. I guess more details will be posted on that Facebook page.

Starting point is 01:46:56 Yeah. Well, you probably just brought our live. We have a live show on the 18th. Let's make sure you get your baby shower in there. But that's April 18th. This is February 22nd. Never mind. Sorry. Everybody just go to the baby shower in there but that's April 18th this is February 22nd okay nevermind sorry

Starting point is 01:47:06 everybody just go to the baby shower don't even come to the live thing and it's online yeah it's online yeah alright thank you

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