The Nateland Podcast - #96 Artificial Intelligence

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Starting point is 00:01:36 We are here, me, Brian Bates, Aaron Weber. We have Dustin Chafin with us. He's back. Me and him are on the road. We just got back from somewhere. No, Tampa. Tampa, Orlando. Orlando, Fort Myers, Fort Lauderdale.

Starting point is 00:01:53 And then we're heading up to next week Providence, Port Chester, Huntington. All around. Albany. Albany. Yep. And so, yeah, so we're having a big little run. And then L.A. If you didn't get to come to the first L.A. show,

Starting point is 00:02:08 I'll be back there for the Netflix is a Joke Festival. I got a show May 3rd. There's a few tickets left for that. So that's where we've been. So what about where are y'all? Well, I came to your Vecchione taping. Oh, yes. At Zany's, and that was great. Yeah, the Vecchione taping was great.

Starting point is 00:02:30 The crowd was awesome. I know a lot of people listening to this podcast came, and people were just so supportive, and it was so cool to see because it's like this thing that I want to try to create. It's nice to see people help us. And that was a big help. I mean, people come because they know who Mike is. Mike destroyed.

Starting point is 00:02:50 I mean, it was wild. It went as good as it could go. And I directed whatever that was. I liked it. I saw you back there. Yeah, I was directing. You're telling them what shirt to wear and stuff? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:05 Well, it was like saw you back there. Yeah, I was directing. You're telling them what shirt to wear and stuff? Yeah. You're almost like, there's probably more you're supposed to do as a director, but for my directing of it was like, think of the opening, helping with the, we designed the set, some locations of cameras. But the 800-pound grill, they're so great. And then they know how to like call the cameras like let's go tight shot on this like i don't know that stuff uh so i let them i was like y'all do that i don't want to be uh you know a cowboy shot that's a big one never heard of that have either so the point it's a shot it's uh it means you're shooting like below the kneecaps

Starting point is 00:03:41 and then uh up above your. And so it was made for like cowboy movies if they were like doing a draw and you want to be able to get the whole gun coming out. So they called a cowboy shot. Okay. So we got a few cowboy shots

Starting point is 00:03:54 in the special. We got a few cowboy shots. I kept saying the hero shot. I've only heard that. I don't know what that is either. It was a shot of you in the green room. Guys, hero shots, number four.

Starting point is 00:04:06 I go, this camera's for the hero shot. They're like, where's it going to go? It'll be right next to me. And I'm going to go to it a lot. But it was, I can't wait for everybody to see it. It really was great. And it's just, you know, clean. And it's the clean that we want to do.

Starting point is 00:04:23 Clean that you don't know it's clean. And that's what Mike did. And that's just clean. And it's the clean that we want to do. Clean that you don't know it's clean. And that's what Mike did. And that's what it was. And it was awesome. And so, yeah. Thanks again for everybody that came out to that 800-pound gorilla. Me and Dusty were together. He murdered all week.

Starting point is 00:04:39 Thank you, Bob. And then we've been hanging out, had a lot of fun. And then where were you? I was in town all week for the festival. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the Nashville Comedy Festival was this whole week, yeah. Just wrapped up, saw you at the Ryman, that Ari Shaffir show. That was a lot of fun.

Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah, yeah. I was announced on that show, then they said I can't be. Because I was with, you know, like everybody at home that listens, we all have our friends that are, you know, probably going to hell. You saved me. Yeah, I saved Dustin. He's heading up. He's got to come with me, but when I go, I will make him go with me.

Starting point is 00:05:20 That's the whole purpose of Nate Land Productions, right? You save one of your friends one at a time? Just one. I walk in, I go, yeah, to Jesus, i got a couple buddies with me and he's like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah he was there a couple of like no no no no and i'm like oh i tried i gotta try now it's uh they're uh i mean all these guys are some of my best friends and they're uh and that's what i love is that's the point of all this too is you have friends no one's perfect it's like you're trying to build this not perfect world of just being yeah some of my friends are crazy yeah and they do crazy stuff and i would do

Starting point is 00:05:54 anything for them and some of them are not and some of them are living life the best way you could live life and you should be mixing with all of them and you just be it's like family it's family yeah yeah yeah you gotta love it you gotta go crazy yeah but that art show my agents got there like you can't have your name on it and it's not because like i can't like it was like they didn't want people to come you know because people might come and they don't know and they think oh i'm going to this neighbor yet to show and they don't realize like every other story that these guys go to is gonna be very very it was very funny the way aria addressed it up top yeah yeah he's like if you don't want to yeah if you came here for that you can get your money back like yeah i'll

Starting point is 00:06:34 give you five minutes to leave right now i'm asleep and uh you know and he really and he means it in a good hearted way of just being like, we understand. Like, yeah, if you bought this and you thought this was going to be the one thing, it's not. And I mean, my part was still clean, but it's there. But yeah, and they're all funny stories and it's all, it's all great, buddy. So it was fun. The Nashville Festival was great and it's doing great. Well, one thing it's like, I saw Gaffigan, he did like Skank Fest. It was interesting where he just did, did you know a clean Gaffigan act

Starting point is 00:07:05 and I think the audience that was there for that edgy comedy they went on board and that's the thing too it's like he converted them to like his style of comedy they just want good comedy

Starting point is 00:07:13 yeah and that's what you want is like they're down like all the times I've done it's called Skank Fest so there you was probably gonna have to

Starting point is 00:07:22 bleep that sorry I didn't mean that no I'm joking but it's a it's our buddy's Luis J. Gomez So there you probably have to bleep that. Sorry, I didn't mean that. No, I'm joking. But it's our buddies, Luis J. Gomez. He started this whole thing. You know, Christine, Rebecca, Trenton. So it's a wild thing.

Starting point is 00:07:42 But there's the most love I've felt in that festival than outside of a lot of festivals. And it's people that, like, I would always, I came up, I was doing all those shows that were dirty. I was doing all that stuff that was all this edgy stuff. And everybody would just embrace it. They're like, yeah, Nate's clean. Like, we just want funny. We don't care. Those are the least judgmental people, which is kind of crazy.

Starting point is 00:08:00 And then it's kind of the ones that want everything to be politically correct. That's the most judgmental. And they don't want anything out. Like, the group that goes to that is it's people coming from all walks of life and they're just the nicest yeah and uh yeah it's cool it's cool to see that like when gaffigan went up they like they love it's like they can't believe gaffigan's here and then they you know so it's fun that's what we were talking this weekend you know just talking about some of your fans have probably been through some stuff so yeah they might have a neck tattoo you know oh yeah yeah well we would see a couple times when you're driving uh to get to the venue we would have

Starting point is 00:08:31 to drive in front of it and which was kind of cool because you get to see the crowd go in so cool and it is like you always just sit there and you're like i i mean i'm blown away that people are showing up i don't even understand how i you're like i have to know them i guess like uh in tennessee yeah and it's uh an incredibly humbling experience to even just see as people walk in and it's it's old young it's people with tattoos it's like all this kind of stuff where you're like they're there for whatever reason they either it's like you're funny some people like the cleanness some people like the not politicalness not the heaviness it's just this whatever it is and it's cool to see and that's what it all should be and everybody makes mistakes nobody's perfect i'm not perfect

Starting point is 00:09:13 i make a ton of mistakes and if you do too at home unless jesus listens then yeah we're all just you know we don't judge you. I love it. You saved me. Aaron, you left the Catholic Church. Go ahead and tell them about that. Is that? The Nashville Comedy Festival is going to be, it's great, and they do it every year, and it's really building,

Starting point is 00:09:39 and it's something that's really nice. And a lot of comics come down, and more people in Nashville are knowing about the festival, and it it's going to be it's just going to keep going and it i i really do love it i love that we have a festival here do you know when vacuum special will be out no no uh we're we already got a clip of it to look at it but we got to edit it we got to do stuff i don't know where it's going to be it can be on youtube We can try to sell it somewhere else. There's a whole process to it. I'll let everybody know when we know. I mean, hopefully three to six months, there's an idea of where.

Starting point is 00:10:12 But, you know. We got some fun pictures of it here. The set, everything looked great. Looked great. It was at Zany's, but they redid the whole. I mean, it looks like a theater in there. It's really, really cool. Yeah, the stage was awesome.

Starting point is 00:10:25 We got his name right there. I like the idea of that. It was just this side shot with his name. And that's all of us. That's Ari Shafir, Soder, Shane Gillis, Jay, me, Josh Adamators, Brian Dorfman, Owen Zaney, Sal Vacano, my sister, and then Mike Vecchione. And it's a crew. This is what I love.

Starting point is 00:10:44 I'd love to have a crew. Those are guys that would do anything. That's Mike's girlfriend, Katie. There's these guys and Ray Allen. He was on the show. He helped produce it with Mike, and he opened for us. So does Katie. And this is a group that's it's not you know my parents would not have wanted me to

Starting point is 00:11:08 technically be with these when I grew up but my parents love them all now and they all come from very different backgrounds they all love it all do for any yeah I love them they love me we would all do anything for anybody yeah and that's what I love that we all get you get just different varying points everybody has a different opinion everybody grew up different uh you know i mean it's crazy ari's dad was at the holocaust how crazy is that arshafir like all the stuff wow people get mad i mean he does a lot of dumb stuff rightfully so they get mad and they but like i mean his like just i mean his upbringing with that it's great i mean it's just crazy and that's what it is get get friends that are just if you got a weird kid in

Starting point is 00:11:52 school go talk to that guy that guy's probably gonna be more you know just have a good group yeah don't have a bunch of yous right that's almost the way you can have a couple yous yeah but over not really i mean it's good don't have a bunch of years you know yeah that david tell joke a friend will help you move a couch a best friend help you move a body yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah live like that and that's how that's the advice kids go to school tomorrow and just be like, just find one, you know, kids in his corner and be like, Hey, do you want to move in with me and my family?

Starting point is 00:12:28 You know, go as far as you want to go. Uh, let's start with the comments. Uh, Heather Waldridge, my best friend and I attended the life tape live taping and Mike Vecchione special.

Starting point is 00:12:41 And they were both fantastic. When y'all talked about fish being meat, my friend looked at me and said, it's pescatrian. What is it? Pescatarian. Pescatarian. Yeah. That's like a church thing.

Starting point is 00:12:57 It's like a religion. Pescatarian. A pescatarian fish. Pescatarian sounds like is it being like, I don't know about this. Is that what that means? Is that how it spelled that's how yeah that's is it pessimistic like you're not you're always that's pessimistic yeah you're kind of like you know yeah well pescatarian it sounds like it's really like we

Starting point is 00:13:14 all go in going i would like to be one over every day like you go every day you walk into church you go i don't let me see what you're talking about. All right, and then I'll let you know. I have no clue what that means or why she knew it, but couldn't ask details about that during the show. It's not like she is a scientist or a fisherman, but apparently has a deep knowledge of the food pyramid that she has hidden from me for years. It's a church thing. You know what that means?

Starting point is 00:13:42 Pescetarian is, it's like a vegetarian, but you'd eat fish. Oh, is that not the church? What's a church? That's a Piscopalian. Yeah. That's what I was saying. Or Presbyterian. I thought Pescatarian was like a religion.

Starting point is 00:13:54 No. I thought people said, I'm Pescatarian. You go, oh, yeah, I know. I got an uncle that goes to that church. No, I'm baptized. Yeah. They just eat catfish. That's the whole joke I was making.

Starting point is 00:14:04 Was that that church goes in. Because I thought a pescatarian, what is it? Episcopalia. Episcopalia. Changes everything. I thought the church was pescatarian. And I like the idea that everybody walks in with a little pessimism. The first five rows are empty like everybody's like i'll send

Starting point is 00:14:26 them back i'll move i mean let me see if i want to get up that's what i i and then i thought well her friend went to she grew up a pescatarian the church i could be in conversations with people and i think we would we would be able to finish the conversation and then walk away with two different things no one would know yeah. Yeah, it just happened. It would just, yeah. Yeah, I thought we were riffing about how it sounds like a Episcopalian.

Starting point is 00:14:48 No, that guy's a smart dude. That's what they would think. And then it would be like, oh, he doesn't know. Last week on the live podcast, we talked about people from up north, and Mike said,

Starting point is 00:14:58 we got some union folks here, meaning, like, we're Confederates, they're union. Yeah. But you went the route of union workers. Yeah. Yeah. But you went the route of Union workers. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:07 Yeah. You do your own thing. I do my own thing. Uh-huh. They're important. My own island. Union jobs. Still got laughs.

Starting point is 00:15:11 I'm the weird kid that I need you to come talk to. Like, I'm in my own world. Yeah. Rewinds retro. Rewinds retro. Aaron was on today. He really opens up in front of a crowd It was like a different person

Starting point is 00:15:27 Unfortunately I'm back Yeah You're one of those guys when the lights come on You play your best Mr. October Yeah dude I thrive under pressure That's what it's all about Well the lights are on and there's people listening

Starting point is 00:15:41 You bring it every time that'd be nice uh spencer heaton the fact that nate said who instead of what when he misheard brian say cities cover three percent of the earth's surface means that nate thought brian said an individual person covered three percent of the earth's surface not truly nate truly is an enigma what's an enigma like a mystery oh i'm a mystery uh so far yeah i don't know yeah i would think like a bermuda tribe i thought a group of people covered three percent of the you know he said new york is two of that 3%. That was funny. Yeah. We're going to make fun of New York City. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:27 Stuff comes in, and we've got our own carnival going on here. You don't come out the same. It's not a well-oiled machine. Some people are there. Some people don't show up. William Ryan. Breakfast Bates needs to open the next episode with a bunch of hats from different pharmacies

Starting point is 00:16:47 to let us know which one he chose that's a good idea do you have an update on the whole pharmacy situation Brian yeah my father-in-law did some research

Starting point is 00:16:55 and two of those pharmacists are leaving that CVS and going to a CVS down the street okay so we may be

Starting point is 00:17:04 transferring just loyalties yeah to another CVS which is nice a CVS down the street. Okay. So we may be transferring just loyalties to another CVS. Which is nice. I think that's really what you're not there for the CVS. You're there for the people. And they know our medical background, which is pretty extensive. Yeah. So.

Starting point is 00:17:15 Yeah. You do want that. It's a whole file cabinet. It's a whole. When you walk in, it's a whole thing. Like here comes the squirrel tag guy like they probably put that in because they have to just also know are you around squirrels like we need to know and you go i'm not only around them they're after me and it goes good to know yeah good to know

Starting point is 00:17:38 uh yeah i'd imagine yeah you come in it's a it's a thing it's a thing they know us for sure yeah way to get medicine for my dog there yeah oh and that dog's probably got it's got problems yeah she's on prozac is she yeah really yeah she has anxiety yeah try petting her yeah it's a good idea i just want to medicate our child. We don't want to love her. Is it probably because she's so little?

Starting point is 00:18:09 I would imagine little ones are just because you're like, you can just always get kind of squashed. Yeah, you would think she's a rescue the way she acts.

Starting point is 00:18:15 She's so skittish about everything. She was bred. Yeah, I got her to breed her. People probably hate me for that. Well, that happens.

Starting point is 00:18:23 I think you got sold a rescue and someone likes you. Well, you may be right. right i mean who told you they were breeding it well i mean we we picked her up when she was eight weeks old so yeah um unless they beat her before yeah not all rescue dogs are you know mine's pretty good yeah and obviously not all breeders are yeah exactly yeah it's like um so she's she's got some issues. We're working with her. Is it Prozac every day? You put it in the food?

Starting point is 00:18:49 Wow. Does she have a therapist as well? Yeah, she does. Really? Does she? We have a trainer that comes. That's basically a therapist. She just wants us to give her positive reinforcement.

Starting point is 00:19:00 No negative. Just good girl, Hazel. Good girl. So it's all good girl. You can't say don't poop on the floor. If you peed on the floor, you would have to go. That's good. good girl you can't say don't like if it peed on the floor you would have to go that's good well you wouldn't say that's good you would but you wouldn't say it's bad either but when she does something like you want yeah you're supposed to reinforce that yeah yeah you're not rolling up a newspaper so what you're saying

Starting point is 00:19:15 going down a little bit feel to you that you know oh your your life makes me feel bad I would go I'd come down to

Starting point is 00:19:29 to my level I want to fly fly at a different altitude you have you need the dog she's given this yeah she's got

Starting point is 00:19:40 you know acid reflux I don't know if I even knew you gave dogs I didn't know Prozac He's got acid reflux. I don't know if I even knew you gave dogs Prozac. I didn't know that. I'm sure it's a certain type of dog, Prozac. Yeah. I bet it's the same. You should just try taking it yourself.

Starting point is 00:19:55 Yeah. Not that you need it. Get the whole family on it. Is it the same? I mean, I think it is. We've got it at the same pharmacy. I thought I'd have to go to the vet or something. They called it at a CVS.

Starting point is 00:20:03 You ought to throw a few in there and see what happens. It'll calm you down. I am pretty wild. Yeah. Maybe your worried face would go away. Just be happy all the time? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:18 You just, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Jesse Stevens. I've never heard of someone eating the whole apple and aaron asked veccione if he ate the whole apple i thought it was an absurd question apparently people do eat the whole apples but there is poison in the seeds yeah i've heard that a human would have to chew and swallow 150 seeds in a short period of time to die from the poison all right yeah i saw a guy

Starting point is 00:20:41 eat a whole banana with the peel and everything just like just chomped into a friend of mine didn't peel it just eat that's how he eats it he just eats the banana with the peel on it yeah oh he's just disturbing what if he didn't know what if he just go hey what if you peeled it he goes what and he just he just he's eating the stem he just it's the whole thing yeah he said why no he says there's more fiber in it like it's better for you you know people say stuff and you're just like i don't need it to be that much better for me i'm gonna just yeah peel it it's like find other ways to do better i just read this that there was poison in an apple seed i've heard that yeah i mean literally read it last night i have some like fact thing that gives you just some dumb facts snapple

Starting point is 00:21:26 cap yeah it's kind of like that and it's an app and uh it just said that that's crazy so you could get 150 seeds and just eat them all at once and it could kill you man all right uh good way to go could i mean i mean with mean, would they even know? I guess they, I mean, something had to happen to somebody. I mean, yeah, they would have to be. I was like, if you did that, they'd be like, everybody would agree, it's probably time for him to go. Just eating seeds. Just eating the.

Starting point is 00:21:58 Seeding like pistachios. You would have no idea. You're like, I don't know. He ate apples every day, the whole thing. He ate 150 on the day. he got a ton of energy connor knighton before nate moves his entire family to oregon to live next to a giant mushroom you should know there's not much there to look at it's definitely not a tourist attraction it's almost all underground i did a story for cbs sunday morning on the fungus a couple of years ago

Starting point is 00:22:25 the scientists we interviewed said the mushrooms were delicious but he also said they give one and eight people violent diarrhea i had a long drive ahead of me so i decided not to risk it after dave hanging out with experts it's not it's nice to listen to n Aaron and the Babadook talk about penguins and how sad the moon must feel. So I watch CBS Sunday Morning regularly for years. Is this the guy? I'm not familiar with Connor. Well, that's the guy he's interviewing.

Starting point is 00:22:57 But, yeah, Connor Knighton. There's Connor Knighton right there. Oh, that's him? Oh, wow. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's cool. Yep. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:04 I see him. And he went down so this is him going out and look at the mushroom and you like see it so there's not a big mushroom i think most of it's underground okay that's convenient we could say we have the largest mushroom yeah yeah there's a lot of mushrooms all over there yeah but it's the largest but is. It's the largest living object. Yeah, yeah. So you would think that it would be like it's all under. It would be one thing.

Starting point is 00:23:33 But collectively, it's one thing. So the ground is all mushroom. Oh, I just thought it was a tree. That's crazy. Yeah, I pictured. Thank you, Connor. That would have. I would have almost went out there and looked.

Starting point is 00:23:46 The humongous fungus. Yeah. You'd be going, we're all in a mushroom. And I'd be like, that's crazy. Look at that guy. Wears a helmet and all that stuff. Where are you going? Looks like a mushroom.

Starting point is 00:24:01 He does. How dangerous is this mushroom? Sarah Nistetter. Nistetter. My husband just said, are the Alps not the same as the Appalachians? Nate, I'm so proud of you for knowing these were different mountains. I think I've already forgot that I did know that. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:24:24 Well, last week we talked about the Appalachians. I guess we talked about the Alps too. The Alps are in Sweden. Wow. I'm even more impressed. Are they? That sounds right. Swiss Alps.

Starting point is 00:24:34 Sounds right. Swiss Alps. Switzerland. Switzerland. Switzerland. Okay. Switzerland. Different.

Starting point is 00:24:39 Where's Switzerland? Close though. Yeah, it's close. It's the same ballpark. It's all the same. I think you get your head in the right direction, I'd say. I'd have to ask when you get closer. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:24:47 Like, if you got it, you're getting it. I'd be like, just Swiss, Sweden, I don't know. Start heading there. When you feel like you're getting close, I'd stop at some gas stations. Swifties. Stop at Swifties. Like, who's got that knife? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:01 We know it's not East Tennessee. Yeah. It's not. Yeah, yeah. got that knife yeah we know it's not east tennessee yeah it's not yeah yeah sean smith mount everest and the rest of the himalayas himalayas is that right uh are growing every year and there are some mountains that are growing even faster than everest the closest contender could overtake mount everest in just 241 years. So if Mount Rainier doesn't step it up, he could lose his place on the podium. Who was called that?

Starting point is 00:25:31 I mean, I just, I can feel science. When you ask if mountains are still growing? I mean, it's, I don't even, I have no schooling. And I just. You got an instinct for it. I got an instinct for like i bet the mountains are growing they're just going to be so are you going to climb mount everest before it goes to number two you have a little more time oh before oh because mount everest is still number one

Starting point is 00:25:56 it's going to be number one for another 241 000 years and mount rainier is number two no he's just saying yeah yeah it could lose it yeah mount rainier is number two? No, he's just saying that. Yeah, yeah, it could lose it. Yeah, Mount Rainier is going to. And it always has. It could slip. Yeah. Always has snow, right? It's not like a summertime you can do it where it's like nice.

Starting point is 00:26:14 Not that. Yeah. We were there in the summertime. Do it in the spring. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Mount Everest might not be worth it by the time you get up there. Have you seen this picture of the queue waiting to get to the top of Mount Everest? Yeah, it's crazy.

Starting point is 00:26:27 How backlogged it is. That's crazy. Now, this was taken, I know the story because this appeared in a Netflix documentary I watched, but there's only certain weather windows you can climb it, and there was a really small window this particular year, so that's the amount of people trying to get up there. Imagine that, you have to wait in line. And they got to go walk by them jam well they're all strapped onto a metal

Starting point is 00:26:49 wire yeah they're all hooked onto it yeah so they have to be in a single file line like that yeah and they're all just waiting for their you know 15 seconds up at the top yeah yeah you see that's the peak up there yeah i think it's yeah that, that's going up to the top of it. But how do they get down? They have to walk by them? You go back down the other side of the water. Yeah, you have to come back. See, I think the attraction to just climbing a mountain is you're by yourself.

Starting point is 00:27:15 And you have this moment, this epiphany. And then you're just like DMV. I thought it was really rare to get up here. It's crazy. I mean, you think there's got to be a guy that's like, I'm not, this is good enough yeah like he's just like i'm not waiting this line oh i'm sure we'll be right there he goes what's the yeah i got no wi-fi four hours yeah i mean that's it gotta be i mean how long is that gonna take

Starting point is 00:27:37 he's gonna like an uber a chopper yeah it's cold it's not like there's like a slide down on the like there should be like an easier way like they's a slide down on the other. There should be an easier way. They go, then you get on this side, then we just shoot you down. And isn't there dead bodies there too? All over, yeah. They actually use some of the dead bodies as landmarks. Oh my goodness. Oh, really?

Starting point is 00:27:57 Yeah, because they're perfectly preserved up there because it's so cold. So it's literally a guy. Just a guy who died in the 70s or 80s, and the body's still there. And they know when you get there. There's one guy, I think it's like they call him Green Jacket guy. Wow. Because he's just been dead up there. One of the bastards.

Starting point is 00:28:13 And they just know that's one of the landmarks for where you are. What a weird marker. You just walk by him. Yeah. Can't get him down. Can't. Yeah. That's not very good motivation.

Starting point is 00:28:23 Can you just hook him to that line and just let them slide? Yeah, I mean, why don't you just throw it? Just push it like a clothesline. I mean, you don't have to hook them to a line. What if you just toss them off? I'm sure that's where he wants to be, though. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:28:37 That's how he wanted to go out. Well, I hope his children aren't into climbing Mount Everest. He wants to go and well you mean i hope all his children aren't into climbing mount everest imagine you know like that's he wants to go i want to climb my everest why can't you do it you've climbed so many mountains my dad has died up there yeah he's marker and they go well that's like nice you go no no no it's a little it's worse than you think his it's literally his body yeah his jacket i just can't on it i can't yeah why would you you know trash is another big problem up there because you get to a certain point where you can't you can't cart this stuff

Starting point is 00:29:14 down you're gonna risk your life so there's just yeah piles and piles of trash up there and dead bodies and it's kind of a nightmare because i've thought about that too you know climbing it but that's it's less and less appealing as we look at this it's a yeah it's a of a nightmare. Because I've thought about that too, you know, climbing it, but it's less and less appealing as we look at this. Yeah, it's a lot. Dead guys and trash. It's a lot. Yeah. Just do like Mount Rainier.

Starting point is 00:29:30 Lines. Just do one that's like... You could walk up, tennis shoes. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah, something that's like, you know, people know the name of it. James Mifflin,

Starting point is 00:29:41 like Dunder Mifflin. The smallest country by population is Vatican City. In 2019, it had 825 people. Yeah, I was way off when I said Greenland was the smallest. I don't know where I got that, but Vatican City is much smaller. And it's its own country just because they're special. It's where the Pope's like yeah people born there like or is it like only the people that work at vatican city or like the i don't know if just straight up like

Starting point is 00:30:12 families live there yeah i don't think there's like a kid that's like i'm from vatican city and he's like it's just a pope in school and like you know like i mean they they have to show a passport to get like you know you know, or you... I don't think so. I think it's mean. It's for all intents and purposes. It's part of Italy. I've been there as well.

Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah. It's pretty cool. And then it's Italy, but... Yeah, but it's... So they make their own laws. They make their own... Well, they have their own zip code. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:42 They have their own taxes. Yeah. It's kind of like Disneyland. And stuff or something. Pope's the king. Pope's the king of Vatican City. Oh, yeah? I think technically he's like the government.

Starting point is 00:30:54 He's got to run everything, though. Yeah. But it's small. It's only a few hundred yards. So they go to him and the roads are getting bad. There's a CVS there, too. Did you know that? Is there really? No, I'm just kidding. Is's a CVS there too. Is there really?

Starting point is 00:31:05 No, I'm just kidding. Is there a queen? A dairy queen. No women. Alan Cochran. Hello, folks. I didn't go to Notre Dame, but I believe Aaron's logic

Starting point is 00:31:19 on counting rings in the tree is a bit off. If you cut a cross section of the tree and counted the rings, you wouldn't double them. Being that each ring goes all the way around doubling the number of rings would give you double the actual age. Sincerely, an Armachui high school graduate.

Starting point is 00:31:39 Where's Armachui? I don't know. I don't know. But that's a great point, Alan. That's a great point. If you double and then divide by two and then that'll then that'll give you the answer yeah yeah so you just count the rings you just count the rings i forgot how rings work yeah when i said that and

Starting point is 00:31:54 it's yeah it's like eight this one's eight years old uh why don't we know how old all these trees are i guess it's just nice to know some we were talking about a tree that's the oldest tree. Yeah, that's what we were talking about last week, Methuselah. And like, how do we even know? Well, maybe you cut a little chunk off of it off and then double that, but you wouldn't have to double it. Yeah. But, I mean, you'd have to cut it all the way to the middle.

Starting point is 00:32:18 I think the next person comments on how they do it. Oh. Cat Cook. When my dad was a Boy Scout, a park ranger showed us... Back it up. Basic words. When my dad was a Boy Scout,

Starting point is 00:32:34 a park ranger showed his troop how they measure trees. They drill a little hole into the side of the tree and it pulls out a round silver... Sliver. Sliver of wood. wood from there you can count the rings okay that makes sense they drew a little hole saw the tree

Starting point is 00:32:53 that's how you do it you don't have to double it and you don't ever ask but would it and and does the tree get more rings? I think every year it adds one. Oh, it adds a ring. So it just grows and gets, so eventually, is it like real big and fat? Or does, is there, do they always stop growing? And if you didn't cut down a tree, are they going to get like, if you have this tree, a tree in your backyard? No, I think they stop.

Starting point is 00:33:22 That's a good question. Does it have to be certain rings before you can cut it? Is that's a good question does it have to be bigger does that have to be certain rings before you can cut it is that like a tree law or something maybe the rings get very very thin yeah they're they're marginally it's marginally bigger every year i know but so in a tree in your backyard yeah if you don't ever do anything in a thousand years is that tree going to cover my whole yard no i think it would die before that yeah but if how long do they how long do trees live well methuselah was that tree was four thousand almost five thousand years old yeah but that was that was remarkable right it wasn't like there's a bunch of trees that old so what do you say my trees how do you know my tree's not i mean we'll see what happens

Starting point is 00:34:05 dude yeah maybe they'll get how long is the tree i think that's a good question because trees stop growing but i guess they keep going a little bit out i don't like you talking about trees like that what about those giant trees like red forest and stuff those things around forever right yeah yeah trees can live anywhere from less than 100 years to more than a few thousand years i mean they do eventually die? I guess they eventually die. I mean, thousands is pretty good. Thousands is good.

Starting point is 00:34:30 And then... All trees do eventually die. Oh, wow. Okay. It's still not the rings. I mean, like... But his question was, do they keep growing while they're alive? Because it's the rings would be, you know, does the ring stop?

Starting point is 00:34:48 And then you're like, how do you know then? Like, does it get a new ring every year? And then it just can only get so big and, you know, that kind of stuff. It's a great question. Yeah, it is. Do trees grow until they die? Just click ask the people also ask. That's right. I always head to that. They do and they don't. do trees grow until they die just click ask the people

Starting point is 00:35:05 also ask that's right I always hinted that they do and they don't that's what it says what a ridiculous

Starting point is 00:35:11 yeah so it doesn't they stop they stop growing in height but they continue to grow in width so the height

Starting point is 00:35:19 is more or less fixed but trees add width to their trunks to put out new branches and sprout leaves

Starting point is 00:35:24 so that's where the rings would be growing okay that's such a funny do they grow until they die they do and they don't yeah there you go kelly callahan learning that breakfast baits was the waffle maker offender was one of the greatest pieces of information i have ever received i had to immediately go back and watch that section of Nate's special so I could hear it again, knowing it was Brian and pictured his worried face once he realized what he had done. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:35:54 You know, it's funny. I probably would have... Yeah, I guess we could have played it out. I hope we played it big enough. I never thought about... You know, I knew it was you. So yeah. It was a big deal though. Big reveal.

Starting point is 00:36:09 Big reveal. And that's what we did. We got it. Hey, I'm Jillian. And I'm Patrick. And together we make the podcast True Crime Obsessed. If you love documentaries the way we love documentaries, you might be interested in our show because we recap all the documentaries that you're watching.

Starting point is 00:36:27 We've covered just about every true crime case you can imagine. We're talking the Hatchet-Wielding Hitchhiker, the Ted Bundy tapes. What else? The Turpin 13. Yes. With the amazing sisters who basically tell the story. The girl in the picture.

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Starting point is 00:36:51 Your mom was the original True Bill. Yeah. My mom does great. She'll get you out of everything. She's my True Bill. Yeah. But I would go, you just cancel it on the app. Do it all through the app.

Starting point is 00:37:04 And if they can't do it automatically, they will call on your behalf. No way. Because you give them the information, they'll call on your behalf. It's pretty awesome. It is like having a Nate's mom to do stuff for you. That's cool. Y'all want to hear a crazy story? It happened this weekend.

Starting point is 00:37:20 So we have a buddy of ours, Steve Byrne, stand-up comedian who lives here in Nashville. Good friend. so we have a buddy of ours, Steve Byrne, stand-up comedian who lives here in Nashville. He was on the road in Fort Wayne, Indiana with Joe Gatto. They went to an antique store, and he texted me a picture of this from the antique store. It's a baseball glove with the name Aaron Weber on it, written with a sharpie. And he sends it to me as a joke, and he says, did you leave behind a baseball glove in Fort Wayne,

Starting point is 00:37:48 Indiana? And I said, no. So I took that picture. I sent it to my parents just to let them know, Hey, isn't this funny? My mom goes,

Starting point is 00:37:54 that's my handwriting. She used to write our names on all the gloves with a Sharpie like that. So that's my mom wrote my name on the Sharpie. And my dad goes, that's 100% your glove. No way. So we don't know what happened, but my childhood baseball glove ended up in an antique store in Fort Wayne,

Starting point is 00:38:12 Indiana, which we've never lived there. Yeah. And Steve Byrne happened to be in that store and saw it. Did he buy it? When I told him about this, he had already left and he tried to go back the next day and they were closed,

Starting point is 00:38:24 but we got to find a way to go get it. I'm in Indiana in June. I'll get it for you. Are you in Fort Wayne? Yeah. Close. Oh, dude. Hopefully nobody buys it. You've got to call them and say, I want that. I bet there's a folk that lives there that'll go get it for you. There might be. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah, someone's there. What is the name of this place? I need to find that out too. Your glove is an antique. That's a good way to find all the information. It may not be. It's a pretty hot commodity. You literally know everything.

Starting point is 00:38:52 You found a glove from when you were a kid in a different city. Well, what's the name? So people maybe go grab it. I don't know. I don't really look at it. Did they have yard sales and stuff? I don't know. I don't remember.

Starting point is 00:39:03 Did they have yard sales and stuff? Here's the best guess my mom could come up with, is that the last time they moved, they had a box somewhere that just accidentally got left behind, and then this got donated to Goodwill or something like that, and it just made its way. We've never been to Fort Wayne. We've never lived there. Somehow made its way up there to an antique store. Do you have any

Starting point is 00:39:25 memories with this glove? Absolutely. I remember this glove specifically. Oh, wow. Now that I was like, oh, I did have a mag on it. I just thought it was the craziest coincidence ever. You're wearing it and you're asking like, hey, why do we have to wear cotton on these summer days?

Starting point is 00:39:42 I don't know. What is it? Seinfeld? Oh oh the baseball uniforms yeah polyester no polyester is too hot yeah yeah yeah sorry yeah that's crazy yeah well if you get the name of it maybe in a couple weeks you let the audience know yeah i'll grab the four-way an antique store in four-way yeah if it's antique store they probably like wow is this some ancient glove yeah i mean why else would it yeah you gotta be careful how much you want it because then they'll like jack the price up no they might i would pay you know i wouldn't have even paid like if somebody showed it to me i don't know that just this this whole story was so crazy oh yeah do you want the glove back or do you want it

Starting point is 00:40:23 to i'd like it to round off the story. Yeah. Like, the fact that Steve was there and found it, we had just exchanged numbers. It was like a crazy coincidence that he was there and saw this. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:40:33 It'd be fun to have it on the table and talk about it. Yeah. I would have loved to. It would be. If you get it, we can put it up. We'll put it up here.

Starting point is 00:40:39 Yeah, we got to. Yeah. I'll make it happen. I will find it. And we'll end the story in a good way. Yeah. And I believe you with Planet Fitness and that other thing.

Starting point is 00:40:51 If you're anything, you're a guy that follows through. What up with a monthly membership to this antique store? Working there. Mom and pop. Yeah. You want to go buy it? They go, $10. I'll give you $5. you five they go no and you go i'm walking it's not worth it drive back home yeah that's a crazy story yeah and steve burn is an antiquer that's i didn't know that oh yeah you know you're on the road

Starting point is 00:41:19 you just like let's just walk around this place for a couple minutes? I mean, that's why you do it. The odds of that are crazy. Yeah, it's insane. Crazy. Big time. All right, so this week we were talking about AI, Allen Iverson. Whole episode just on Allen Iverson. Practice. Artificial intelligence.

Starting point is 00:41:44 What do you guys know about AI? We got it in our pockets. Your phone is considered AI? Absolutely. You talk to her all the time. Yeah. Yeah. There's some things that I just thought was a cool computer program that's considered

Starting point is 00:41:58 AI. Like what? Organ drill? Yeah. Like what? Organ trail? Yeah. Well, like when they talk about how computers will someday be smarter than humans,

Starting point is 00:42:14 I think about, all right, a calculator has always been able to add up something instantly. It is smarter than humans. Yeah, that one on Jeopardy beat all those people. Yeah, but that's a specific case, which we'll get into. But are you saying calculators are smarter? Well, I mean, why would they not be smarter? Just because they can't do it on their own? Computers?

Starting point is 00:42:30 Yeah. Yes, and they don't have logic or reasoning or a conscience yet. It's still someone programming you to do certain things. Yeah. They're trying to give it a conscience. Yeah, I mean, that's what they think it's going towards. Isn't that what hurts us sometimes? The emotions and overthinking? Whereas I feel a computer gets right to it a conscience. Yeah, I mean, that's what they think it's going towards. Isn't that what hurts us sometimes? The emotions and overthinking? Whereas I feel a computer gets right to it.

Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah. We second guess ourselves. Sometimes, you know. So flying cars, for example, that's about to be a thing. Is it? In New York City, they're starting in 2024. They're called eVTOLs, electric vehicle takeoff land. They look more like helicopters.

Starting point is 00:43:06 People can't drive on the streets. But they'll have pilots, but there are also going to be some pilotless because they said a computer won't make errors like a pilot would. So it'll be just self-driving. So it's just like a big drone that you can get in. Yeah, basically. Yeah. And then so you're going gonna get in it and then

Starting point is 00:43:25 you're i mean but how what are the it takes you around the city to where you want to go you gotta land on another landing pad on top of another building yeah oh so you fly above the city yeah i mean that is i mean kind of cool but yeah i mean i'm terrified even thinking about it yeah so it's helicopters yeah that's terrifying uh yeah you're gonna see some of them go down i'll just take the subway. I'm good. And then you've got to hope that it really works out to the spot. This is going to be very convenient for a couple people. They're like, it's the best.

Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah. And everybody else is like, I don't know, you've got to take the subway all the way down. Well, you even have to get to the takeoff place. So they send a car to pick you up just to get to that. So then you're like, well, if you're already stuck in traffic, why you up just to get to that so then you're like well if you're already stuck in traffic why would i want to get in their car but i guess if you're trying to get from one side of the city to the other and the landing pad's half a block away maybe that's i mean that's why you would you it would need to be like you need to live next to a landing pad

Starting point is 00:44:17 and then where you're going needs to be yeah like if you have work you know and someone could move to go do that and they're like it takes them five minutes but it's kind of like Nashville we have we have a train system

Starting point is 00:44:30 the Music City Star there you go it's one train you gotta live right next to it for it to be worth it basically yeah I mean

Starting point is 00:44:38 it goes downtown yeah I know a lot of people take it yeah they do I mean but you have to drive to it unless

Starting point is 00:44:44 you know it's not like you're going to walk to it. But it goes from Lebanon to Mount Juliet. It's not bad. Yeah. I mean, the other day I was on the sidewalk and saw one of those Amazon robot things that has the packages in it. Oh, really?

Starting point is 00:44:54 Yeah. And it's just like going down Hollywood Boulevard, just going, or actually it was on Sunset. And it's just going down. And then I just started thinking to myself, somebody's just going to attack that thing. Just try to get whatever's inside of it. I mean, it didn't happen, but it's like, like i don't know how do they prevent that you know what

Starting point is 00:45:08 i mean but it's like but it's a thing now it's like they just it looks because that thing remembers you forever then you don't you know you think you're 20 years later and they're these robots are crazy and it just shows up at your house like the terminator and you're like yeah me yeah that's how it started yeah somebody attacked Somebody attacked the Amazon thing. Never seen the Terminator. Oh, that's right. That's the big one. I've been trying to download it.

Starting point is 00:45:31 Or like I've been trying to. Huh? This is like a long, it's a journey for you just to download it? The first one is amazing. Yeah, maybe I can start it tonight. Well, I got to watch the other thing. Well, it's definitely when ai goes wrong yeah that's what the whole movie is yeah yeah so it's uh yeah i need to watch that and what i just

Starting point is 00:45:50 downloaded last action hero okay you could just do a whole arnold yeah yeah i'll jump into arnold a little bit yeah i would do uh terminator one and two and then the last one that came out that's i would skip everything in between oh there's a bunch in between? I think there's three. There's number three. Is he in all of them? No. Yeah, he's in all of them, I think. He's in one, two, and three. I don't think he's in the one with the woman, where she's the Terminator. No, he's not in that one?

Starting point is 00:46:15 I don't think so. He's ruined it. Terminator 3, then we got Terminator Salvation, then we got Terminator Genesis. Salvation he's not in. Is he in the third one? Terminator Dark Fate. I think he is in the third one. Is he in the third one? Terminator Dark Fate. I think he is in the third one. Is he not? Six of them.

Starting point is 00:46:28 He might be. Could be one. I would agree. One and two are the best. One and two. And then the last one was really good. I enjoyed the last one. He's in that one.

Starting point is 00:46:36 It's like where he comes back. But I could keep going if I'm just like, I'll just see what's up. But Salvation is like the beginning of it. So that would be like the first one of the story. Yeah. And then you could just, you know. Oh, if I do the. Like Salvation is like, you know, like Star Wars, like the first.

Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah. Like the prequel or whatever. Oh, so you could go to be like, it's like. It's got Christian Bale. So what if you were like, I want to watch. Is there a different order to watch it? Like the way you do Star Wars? Is it like.

Starting point is 00:47:04 Yeah. Well, if you want to do the story in order, you would do Salvation first. Okay. Yeah. And then I go to... And then you would go to one and then two. Okay. All right.

Starting point is 00:47:16 Maybe I'll do that. Yeah. But it's about the machine uprising. Yeah. Where they become more smarter and more powerful than us and take over the world. Yeah. And there's a lot of movies like that, but people are really concerned that's going to happen. Elon Musk, who just bought Twitter.

Starting point is 00:47:33 Stephen Hawking was concerned about that. Bill Gates, all those people are really concerned that if we don't be careful, we'll program these computers, they'll eventually get smarter than us, and then we're not careful. Well, how would Bill Gates have any say in that when he's part of it? Like he created part of the problem. It's funny that all the people warning it are people actively developing this technology. We could just all agree to stop.

Starting point is 00:48:00 Yeah. You know? Could. Technology's doing enough for us. Let's not build something that's going to kill us. And I feel like I wonder if they look at it as like cancer and surgery and doctors. Right. And like that kind of stuff where it can really save lives.

Starting point is 00:48:17 But you might say, all right, why would a robot or a computer want to kill us? So you program it to cure cancer. We've been putting millions of dollars into cancer research for years, had no luck. You go do it. Millions. I mean, technically. Billions.

Starting point is 00:48:33 Billions of dollars into cancer, and there's still. Thousands of dollars. Yeah, and there's just nowhere. That was the beginning of the podcast. I know. That was one of his first rants. Yeah, where's the money going? How's it all like nothing?

Starting point is 00:48:45 Yeah. I think it makes the most sense in the military. You know, I mean, drones are technically, that's what that is. Right. But to finish my thought. So you program this computer, go cure cancer. And then it decides, well, the way to cure it is to kill all the humans. No humans, no cancer.

Starting point is 00:48:59 Because it doesn't have empathy or ethics. It just knows it's got a job, and its job is to rid cancer. So it just wipes all of us out. But what if it was just one machine trying to figure it out, and then we just don't let it. We keep it in a room locked up like a prison. Well, they'll all be talking to each other. But he's just in there alone.

Starting point is 00:49:23 Why does he need to talk to another robot? Well, I guess I just assume they're all going to be linked to each other but he's just in there alone why does he need to talk to another robot well i guess i just assume they're all going to be linked to the internet and i like the and some guy walks by with a phone and then your phone strangles you at night basically yeah i mean 2001 a space odyssey that came out in 1968 and even even then, they were like, that's about a computer on the ship. Siri. The first Siri. Yeah. It's called HAL.

Starting point is 00:49:48 Yeah. And they had a mission. And then these astronauts are like, I disagree with HAL's mission. I don't think he's right. He reads their lips that they're trying to overthrow him. And then he kills them. Never seen that either. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:50:01 Is it good? It's a slow burn. Yeah. Yeah. It's a long movie. Yeah. I don't know if you would like it. It's not a Nate movie. Yeah. Yeah. Is it good? It's a slow burn. Yeah. Yeah. It's a long movie. Yeah. I don't know if you would like, it's not a Nate movie.

Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah. Yeah. I need to go down more Terminator route. Terminator 1. There's a lot of shootouts in Terminator 1. That's the only one

Starting point is 00:50:14 you're really going to like, I think. Yeah. The first one. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I want to go through the whole journey.

Starting point is 00:50:19 Yeah. Just do the first one. Oh, I thought he would like the second one better. I think the second one's a better movie, but I think action, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:50:27 So I can just go first and second and be done? Yeah, one and two is probably the good way to go. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So there's, I think we talked about this on the future episode. It's called The Singularity, which is the point in our history where computers are smarter than humans. And they're calling the shots. And once they get to that level, then they can, it'll be an explosion of improvement because they can fix themselves.

Starting point is 00:50:50 And then that improvement can fix itself and fix it faster, faster, faster to the point where we can't keep up. Yeah. And then they're just running everything. So how far away are we from that, do you think? Six years? Futuristic Google said like 2040 or 2045, something like that.

Starting point is 00:51:06 What is Futuristic Google? You got a different internet? Just a Google that... A futurist. His job is a futurist. Oh, a futurist at Google. That's why you said a futuristic Google. You went into the future and Googled this. Futuristic Google?

Starting point is 00:51:22 I'm the old guy here? Come on. I still think we always have the upper hand of any computer because we can unplug it. We can destroy it. I think we'll always have the upper hand. Because it needs us more than... Yeah, but I guess they could self-charge it. Yeah, they could figure out a way.

Starting point is 00:51:38 They could figure out a way. I don't know. I trust our weaponry. I think we could... I know, but they are the weapons we're using. So if they just turned on us... know, but they are the weapons we're using. Like that's, so they just turned on us, you know.

Starting point is 00:51:48 Yeah, but we have to program it. So you're saying it could just start programming it. Yeah, if it programmed and we had it. So that's the war.

Starting point is 00:51:54 The war would be it just turns on us. Yeah, that's the story of Terminator. Yeah, that's the exact story. That's the exact story. I don't think it'd be true.

Starting point is 00:52:02 I'm like, you're telling me to watch this movie. But I think we won. I think at some point. At some point. And we still have Arnold Schwarzenegger. We do.

Starting point is 00:52:09 Yeah. We actually made him good. I don't want to destroy the whole thing. Facebook was working with chatbots, which you guys know. Have you ever done chatbot? No. You go online, ask a question, and it acts like it's a personal reply. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:52:24 But they were trying to make it more personable. So they had two chatbots chat with each other to try to figure stuff out with each other. They quickly came up with their own language just that they knew. Wow. And Facebook had to stop the program. Wow. Oh, that's creepy. They were doing shorthand just because it made it faster for them.

Starting point is 00:52:43 And then Facebook stopped it and said, no, for the purpose of this, you got to use English. You can't be doing something. Yeah. I don't know. I told them like that. And they said, okay. Wow. Come on, guys.

Starting point is 00:52:52 They go, one, one, two. There you go. That's the last one. I do like robots, though. I mean, the idea of just having a robot. Remember, like it was Rocky IV or something. Yeah. He had a robot.

Starting point is 00:53:02 And he was like teaching it how to like talk. But he was nice. Yeah. It's a nice robot. he was teaching it how to talk. But he was nice. Yeah, he's a nice robot. But we interact with AI all the time now. All the time. Siri or whatever. Or you call a phone number and it's an automated voice messaging system, something like that.

Starting point is 00:53:20 I think what's going to be really scary is when you can no longer tell that these things are AI. I think that's called to be really scary is when you can no longer tell that these things are AI. I think it's called the Turing test. When you pass the Turing test, you can no longer differentiate AI from real people. Oh, really? That's when it's going to get scary. When you don't even know that you're talking to a robot because they're so similar. And that's so close.

Starting point is 00:53:45 I think, I don't know if it's been officially achieved in, in some capacity, but we're so close from there. It's terrifying. Humanoid Sophia. And she has citizenship in Saudi Arabia. Sophisticated.

Starting point is 00:54:01 She is. Yeah. She was on Jimmy Fallon as a guest. I can't get on it, but Sophia is killing it on there. Every time an attractive girl wants to add me on Facebook, I'm like, you're a robot.

Starting point is 00:54:16 It's just every time. I'm like, you're not real. She's obvious, a robot, but she has facial features and stuff like that that she can do. Who's on Jimmy Kimmel? She looks beautiful. No.

Starting point is 00:54:29 Oh, it's just Sophia Robot. Yeah, there you go. Oh, I do remember seeing this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's like that movie that we were talking about. Ex Machina. Ex Machina. Machina.

Starting point is 00:54:41 God, we say it wrong. Is it not Machina? I thought it was Machina. It's Machina? I thought it was Machina. You know know they never say those words in the movie they don't so i think it's just up to your interpretation i think it's machina that's what i thought it's machina deus ex machina whatever you want to call it but it's just like this like it's literally that's her right so you can still you talk to that you'd still know that that's a robot right so it's not

Starting point is 00:55:05 quite there yet but it's gonna be terrifying eventually like you're gonna go she's like you're saying like like they they come and welcome to the office and you follow this girl and you don't know that you have no idea it's a robot yeah yeah there's a robot expert that says by 2050 marrying a robot will be legal marrying a robot yeah They'll have their own rights. There's a guy in China who's already done it. Oh, yeah? So he like programmed it to like... Did you get that?

Starting point is 00:55:29 I sent you? No, you sent me the link. What is this? Oh, I'm pretty sure I did. All right. But anyway, he was 31 years old. Hadn't found a wife yet. In China, there's a lot more men than women.

Starting point is 00:55:39 Yeah. He's getting frustrated. His parents are on his case. So he built a robot. He married her. Oh, wow. She can't talk yet. likes that yeah but uh he's training her to do chores around the house oh wow not so we're just going to go back to the original woman

Starting point is 00:55:54 it all goes full circle full circle you're listening, that was Nate. It's the 1950s. Yeah, the back to like, yeah. The future is going back to the 50s. You can't vote, and you're like, all right, so we're just trying to build the woman that we had a long time ago. You're like, yeah, yeah, they're getting a little farther than us. So here's the Chinese man that married the robot. He built himself.

Starting point is 00:56:25 Yeah. I mean. That's the way to do it the robot he built himself yeah I mean that's the way to do it if I knew about that looks a little young for him 48 yeah could save me some trouble that's like

Starting point is 00:56:33 I keep getting older they say the same age alright alright alright that's gonna be that's gonna be the slogan for robots there was a chat bot on Twitter slogan for robot.

Starting point is 00:56:46 There was a chat bot on Twitter that they tried to test by just seeing if he could interact with different people on Twitter. And it quickly started seeing so many racist and sexist tweets that they had to stop it and shut it down because it was just infuriating people.

Starting point is 00:57:03 It got canceled. It got canceled really quick. The best part is there's other guys like the other guy in the second row like that i would imagine if you're if you're if you're marrying a robot you're in love with yourself like you're just you're just completely in love with yourself because you you're talking something that's not i don't know that guy but uh but yeah yeah but you're you're talking something that is you and that like learns how to talk to you specifically. And so you're like, you wouldn't even know how to have interactions with people. Because you would be, you're like, I love myself so much.

Starting point is 00:57:32 It's so self-entitled. It's the ultimate act of selfishness. I'm going to marry something that I could just unplug. Yeah. I don't actually have to be a real husband to this thing. Yeah, a woman yelling at you makes you. It's an easier way to become a dictator. You're like, well, do you want to be a real husband yeah yeah a woman yelling at you makes you a way to become a dictator you're like well do you want to be a dictator you go i would love to but that's

Starting point is 00:57:49 so much work so i will start with building the thing that i want to do exactly what i want them to do every time you know yeah so in 2050 harper will be in her 30s yeah she comes home with a boyfriend and it's a robot dad i, I want you to meet Hal. Yeah. What do you think? Yeah, she's never going to do that. I mean, I'm not going to – she's not being led down the road where that's going to become impossible.

Starting point is 00:58:15 Like, you know, you – that's where, you know, I mean, the parenting has to come in. I'm encouraging Eleanor. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're like – You're building one right now. I would be like, son, how far can'm encouraging Eleanor. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're building one right now. I would be like, son, how far can you throw a football?

Starting point is 00:58:28 Yeah, yeah. Building a son-in-law, man. Yeah, I mean, you're going to, I mean, you got a robot at your house taking care of you, so. I would like that. Is there any,

Starting point is 00:58:38 I mean, what's a thing now in our life that you would like a robot to do? I don't, I like doing stuff clean the house dishes or do you like to watch kitchen huh you like to watch them do it uh yeah taxes yeah i wouldn't you know i don't think i'd want to take you don't want to take yeah like yeah if they could do stuff uh i don't want to take jobs for people though like i mean if it's you know you're yeah i don't even like the self-checkout i think that's yeah i use that a lot but it's just so quick it is quick so i do like that

Starting point is 00:59:09 and then i understand the quickness but i i don't i guess so i'm i'm using it there yeah you're using i'm sure i would get very used to almost anything that'd be like that but i feel like what what are you going to do for jobs like i mean you could slowly get i mean the one thing good about a comedian even though you've seen like the comedian robot or something yeah but i mean like there's uh you know comedians are kind of your voice in your head right yeah and so like you hope that like that's still something you know yeah maybe a song like there's still you just got to hope that people don't it's creative stuff it's going to take a while for AI to replicate. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:47 Right. But this is part of what I was talking about with y'all last week. This is what kind of scared me because we were thinking about this. There's this new technology that just rolled out called Dolly. Yeah. Okay. This is from a startup in San Francisco called OpenAI. And this is software that creates visuals based on text input.

Starting point is 01:00:08 Now, if you had asked me things that I thought AI would not replace, I would have said art. Yeah, right. And this creates art with AI unbelievably based on a simple text input. These are all AI-generated images that have never existed before that this technology is just creating for us. I think there was a movie, I think it was De Niro or something, where it was like they did a fake pop singer, and the whole thing was fake.

Starting point is 01:00:36 She didn't exist as a person, but it was always on TV. She had videos, and she had all this music, and it wasn't a real person. So you could do it with music. Right. This is an image of a, that is an AI generated image that does not exist in real life. Yeah, so the real thing with that though is like, there's a, you know, not perfect is what makes human, what makes it so perfect to you. Not perfect is what makes it so perfect to you.

Starting point is 01:01:10 And so there's a point where everything can become too perfect and you won't. And then enjoyment is gone. And so everything's like a transaction. Everything's a business. Everything's just give me this. I want this. So there's going to be conveniences that you like. But that art, I'm not.

Starting point is 01:01:23 Who are you going to show that to? It's cool now if you say, I just typed this in and it printed it and you showed it and you have a story behind it. But once that's like, well, everybody does that, well, then why do I care? Like if you show it to me, oh, you got one of those. I agree. I agree. Remember the thing that you have to mix your eyes and you can see it, you know, like Kramer.

Starting point is 01:01:45 Yes. And then it's like that was like cool because it was like at least like there was a reason to be looking into it. But like that's why I don't think it would take away art because you're like if you show me that painting and you're like, that's like seeing like I got Tiger Woods autograph and it's just, and it's just printed on there. And you're like, well, you don't have his autograph. Interesting. You didn't get it from him. Interesting. And no one did that.

Starting point is 01:02:10 So there's no story to it. A story to something is the thing that, yeah, I can't get you. They can get you this stuff now. That could be worth a ton now because of the story, because you're like, that's crazy a robot did it. But if that comes the every day, your story's gone well yeah well that's happening yeah well that's what nfts are basically you know it's just like they're they're making digital art and then the story is just whatever you know the the artist i own yeah like i what they own like the picture and it's something

Starting point is 01:02:40 to do with crypto and the whole thing is kind of connected and whatnot yeah i just it's it's flashy and fun and then i think it's gonna like you you can't the the being in front of people they talk about like doing experiences like isn't experiences really big with the i guess gen x or millennial was like all about experiences and so like with this kind of stuff experiences go away so you have no experiences then we're all just living you're just asleep in a bed the whole time there's no reason to even live right and so it i could see it getting out of control and stuff like that but i you know you would hope and now maybe the generation from generation like they just slowly get like taken over then maybe yeah well that's's why NFTs are popular, because kids aren't going to museums, but it comes up on your phone.

Starting point is 01:03:28 So, you know, it's just... Could you tell this thing to paint a picture of your house? You can tell it to do anything, and it'll create a... And it works now? But a specific thing, like... You say paint Nate Bregazzi, and it would paint him? Yeah. You might be able to do public figures like that, but it's not...

Starting point is 01:03:46 Because we should do that. It's not pulling images from stuff. It's creating stuff that's never been created before. Yeah. So it learns things from the internet. It learns what the shapes of things are, what the colors of things are, the styles of different artists or whatever else.

Starting point is 01:04:05 But then the image it creates is totally creative and out of nothing. But you can do that right now? This technology, they're rolling it out right now. A bunch of tech influencers have it, and they're demonstrating it on Instagram and stuff. I signed up for the wait list. I can't wait to have this. I think this is the most unbelievable thing ever.

Starting point is 01:04:26 Yeah. Just that you can create an image of anything. Yeah. It's kind of scary. And they're really worried about people using it for the wrong. Yeah. Bad things, obviously. I think it's horrible because it's like somebody writing your jokes.

Starting point is 01:04:39 You know what I mean? Like there's something to be said about somebody that can paint like that. Talent is. Talent. That's like the robot umpires in baseball. It's like, yeah, dude, part of it is the – is that – what kind of ump you got tonight. Imperfection. And then the imperfection in that you got to figure it out as an athlete

Starting point is 01:04:57 and that you – like that athlete, you figuring out how they're calling something is the talent that I'm paying to go see versus just straight up like it's either you know i don't know it changes the game like i get the idea with umpires that people wanted everything to be correct uh but you know if they got rid of replay and all that stuff you'd be like yeah it is what it is like uh i understand the argument against it replay is good like they you You know, but it's a mix. But if you're not, you're still buying people, man. Like, you know, what was it, Michael Scott?

Starting point is 01:05:34 You don't fire people, you hire people. Yeah. Like, I don't know, you know, isn't that beautiful? Yeah. But it's like that idea that you don't, that's what it's about. Like, it can't be this where you don't that's what it's about like it can't be this where you just there's no emotion between humans and our and it might be that i don't i don't want my daughter to have that i would not put that into her i love the connection of humans i love that

Starting point is 01:05:59 you know it's it's special it's something that's like your heart. I would imagine that can't, that's that, that the heart just goes away. So then you're like, what are you buying? Like you, then you can have anything you have literally anything you can probably 3d print a Lamborghini. So you're like, I don't get at your whatever, you know, you don't get the brain that you're like, the brain is like, the creativity is like, that's like, what's, that's, what's cool. It's like the idea that you're going like brain is like the creativity is like that's like what's that's what's cool is like the idea that you're going like oh this person thinks i don't think like that i love the way that guy thinks yeah and like i don't and like so you're doing that

Starting point is 01:06:34 and this all feels fake now maybe 50 years from now they've just been slowly brainwashed into like this is all you know and then they can deal with whatever you know yeah i was trying to think of an example that we have now that 50 years ago people might have said that's not authentic i mean i can't think of all they want is authentic now yeah authenticity is cells everywhere i mean this podcast does good with all like everything entertainment people just want to be talked to like a regular person yeah that's like when you see all these interviews with these coaches and like it's all the same thing and everybody's a robot in the sense of saying i and people just want to be talked to like a regular person. That's like when you see all these interviews with these coaches and it's all the same thing and everybody's a robot in the sense of saying,

Starting point is 01:07:09 I don't buy mine. And they have no real, like, just talk to us normal, dude. Like, just say what you want us to do and then it's going to be fine. And that's going away. But people don't like that. And so it's probably our duty as humans to be like, you know, this stuff's cool to play with and fun with, but you teach your kids, all this stuff doesn't matter.

Starting point is 01:07:29 It's like we're here for each other as humans. And we might be fighting these dead gum things. I agree. Is that the same program that could write a story? Yeah, this is the same. So another iteration of the same software. This is available now, and I have access to it. This is OpenAI Playground where access to it this is the this is

Starting point is 01:07:45 open eye ai playground where you can tell this you can tell this thing to do anything with text we can tell it to write a description for a tv show you can tell it to write you can say like write a description of the nateland podcast write a description for a podcast called Nate Land starring Nate, Brian, Aaron, and Dustin. We'll do comedy podcasts. I mean, really just – You misspelled Dustin. Well, it'll – Nate, Brian, and Aaron are four friends who love to make each other laugh.

Starting point is 01:08:18 They're always up for a good time, and their podcast, Nate Land, is a reflection of that. Each episode is packed with hilarious stories, jokes, and general tomfoolery. If you're looking for a good laugh, this is the podcast for you. That's amazing. It's incredible, dude. I played with this for like 10 hours. I take it all back. Write an academic article about the effect of podcasting

Starting point is 01:08:42 on stand-up comedy. Let's just create this. I mean, it'll just write the whole article for you, dude. This is all AI-generated. These sentences have never existed. So kids could use this to write papers. I'm sure that they are.

Starting point is 01:08:57 I would be if I were writing papers right now. Better colleges if this thing was right. Hope Cullen was about this. It's pretty amazing. It's all writing papers right now. Yeah, we'd have better colleges if this thing was right. Hope Cohen was about this. Yeah, dude. It's pretty amazing. Yeah. It's all very scary how quickly it's moving, I think. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:09:12 And just how this will be implemented into everything, and you won't even realize it. We've probably read, all of us have probably read articles that are generated this way. Wow. Just with plug-and-play AI-generated nonsense. Oh, like the targeted ad. This is a form of the turing test where if you read this you would not you would think a person wrote this oh yeah you know that is crazy yeah yeah it's because it does make you think well what if uh

Starting point is 01:09:37 yeah like if you uh yeah because the thing the world of stand comedy has changed drastically in recent years and a big part of that is due the rise of podcasting in the past stand-up comedians would have to rely on things like late night talk show appearances or comedy specials on tv in order to reach a wide audience but now with podcasts they can record their act and reach people all over the world with just a few clips i mean that's a true point this has had a big impact on the stand-up comedy scene i mean that yeah no it's it's you – I would read that. Oh, yeah, that's like someone wrote that. On Vulture or something.

Starting point is 01:10:09 But, dude, what if you find out – how long has this been around? This – a couple years, this technology has been available. It is true that, like, I wonder if that could be – you're going to be like, well, how many articles have I read where if someone's like, yo, dude, I need an article on the effect of podcasting on stand-up comedy, and you just do this, you turn it in, and then that's an article, and the whole thing's fake. But one thing it does lack is any personal connection to it.

Starting point is 01:10:35 There's no quotes. For sure. Like, hey, I used to do this, or I interviewed this guy, or whatever. Can you put with quotes? Yeah, with quotations from- From comedians? Can you put Nate Bargatze? Can you put Nate Bargatze? Yeah. with quotations from... Can you put a particular person? Can you put Nate Bargatze? Yeah, let me see.

Starting point is 01:10:49 Let's see what... Let's try this out. With quotations... From... Yeah. It says it's unbelievable. I'm going to be impressed. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:04 It's unbelievable, honestly. With quotations from Nate Bargetzi. And here we go. We've submitted it. Nate Bargetzi, a stand-up comedian, has been quoted saying, podcasting has had a big effect on stand-up comedy. He goes on to say that it's given a lot of comics a chance to be heard who wouldn't have otherwise, and it's helped connect with fans.

Starting point is 01:11:25 You've said that. Bargetti's not alone in his assessment that effective podcasting is a stand-up comedy. That's crazy, dude. Second podcasting. Second podcasting is allowed to me is experiment with the material in a way that they may not have been able to do otherwise. I mean, this is like, go down. Is that it?

Starting point is 01:11:39 You can keep going. This is because as Bargetti notes, podcasting has helped connect fans with comics they might not have found otherwise. I don't even know if I've actually said this stuff. No, that's all. Yeah. That's crazy, dude. Same you would say. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:56 Yeah, you would say that. I think we all would. I mean, what if we're reading articles and you're like, y'all are not even writing this out yeah dude if i were writing some clickbait website where i needed to turn out a hundred of these a day i'd just throw it through this software and then the fact that you can just put someone's name in and the comments and their quotes are like if you asked me did you say this and you go i maybe i talked to you know i don't know you've done it's not like you're like... I remember this one time I said it. Because it's something we generally say about podcasts as comics.

Starting point is 01:12:34 That's wild, dude. That is wild. What is this called? This is called Open AI. It's called Playground, where you can just play around with this technology. It's free. You hop on here. I spent hours on this, making it write stories. It's pretty Playground, where you can just play around with this technology. It's free. You hop on here. I spent hours on this, making it write stories.

Starting point is 01:12:48 It's pretty amazing, dude. And at Dali, the visual thing is just another iteration of the same technology, where it'll just create images. And I'm sure, ultimately, you can make videos from it. Is it where... If you do... If I was writing a book, would it write a book? If it said, write a book about Nate Bargetti's career.

Starting point is 01:13:13 Someone asked me to write a book. I'm just trying to see if I can maybe turn it out. Turn it out quick? Maybe I can turn it out tonight. You can watch all those Terminator movies. So we tell it, write a long book about comedian Nate Bargetti's stand up career and you submitted it

Starting point is 01:13:27 it's been on the rise since it started before and regularly in 2009 since then he's released two comedy albums Yelled At By A Clown and Full Time Magic and this wrote a little

Starting point is 01:13:35 bio for you essentially oh yeah because I was going to say screenplay what can you do like a screenplay all those down to earth guy

Starting point is 01:13:41 with a great sense of humor his act is sure to appeal yeah so you would just keep oh maximum length so you could do is it now they're starting to be some uh there's some misinformation yes this is what's interesting bargetti is a native of tennessee he said that his comedy is influenced by his father who was a clown he also said that he's a product of divorce and that is and that his parents divorce had a profound impact on his life and his comedy dude you're just guessing

Starting point is 01:14:09 just make it you know what's crazy I've never said this my dad was divorced oh wow no I'm joking what if that was like it's that good how did you know that I get uncomfortable I go No, I'm joking. What if that was like, it's that good?

Starting point is 01:14:26 How did you know that? You're like, I get uncomfortable. I go, mm-mm. Ugh. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah. You're like, God, where are they finding that stuff out? We don't even talk. And I'm like, dead gummit.

Starting point is 01:14:42 Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. It's pretty cool, man. Yeah. It's pretty cool, man. Yeah, it's pretty cool. They're making movies now, though, where Warner Brothers has this deal with Sinalytic where they use algorithms to predict a film's success based on the film script. And they insert different actors in it, and then they can run an analytics thing to see how well it'll do. And that's how they help determine which actors to put in which movie. So it's just The Rock every time?

Starting point is 01:15:09 Yeah. That's why The Rock's in everything right now. Apparently. And then there's another thing called Scriptbook that predicts how well a movie will perform based on the screenplay. So they try to make this movie in 2019. They announced that the best actor to play this guy called finding jack about a vietnam war veteran was james dean yeah who died in 1955 in a car wreck they said they searched high and low for the best actor and james dean was the best choice so he was going to star in

Starting point is 01:15:35 this movie and hollywood got so upset actors real actors were like that's ridiculous you know you can't start doing this so they finally pulled the plug on it but they were going to cast james dean oh they were going to cgi they could just cgi yeah yeah deep fakes wow wow you can't just get a james dean type you know what i mean see but that's what i mean you're you're creating a james dean that's you're using a real guy i think that's the the savior of this is you still want like this is, but you still want to hear from a person. Like, the person, you're going to relate to a person. You're not going to relate to a computer. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:16:13 I agree. And so if a computer tries to be relatable, it's like, now, the article thing that you just showed, like, I would be curious to see if people are like, are there people that are, because it does, like, people write long articles. And you're like, how are you writing these? How do you just pump it on out? Like, it's like, and it's, maybe it just figures out what you think. I mean, like, grammarly kind of changed my life, because I'm not good at grammar and punctuation and stuff. And so that's pretty cool.

Starting point is 01:16:46 It's like an app and you just write your stuff out and you have an Instagram. You can have it on emails. And it just goes in and corrects all your punctuation. And then it just saves me from stressing out that I didn't put a semicolon where I should. So I do use that. To me, that's like a calculator for people that didn't go to good schools.

Starting point is 01:17:07 Right, well, you can just tell them to just write the whole thing for you. Yeah, now I'll just do that. Now I don't even

Starting point is 01:17:12 have to do anything. There's movies that use CGI. Well, when Carrie Fisher died, they put her in The Last of the Girl Wars. There was a Will Smith

Starting point is 01:17:21 movie recently where they CGI'd a younger version of him. sure. Oh, really? Yeah. And it's him? It was like, he goes back in time or something.

Starting point is 01:17:30 He keeps slapping himself? Yeah. Just over and over? Yeah. And then The Irishman. They show De Niro and those guys. A young De Niro. A younger man.

Starting point is 01:17:39 A young Pesci, yeah. That was all done by- That's crazy. I don't mind that. That's like science fiction. This is Nate as Forrest Gump. Someone on the Nate land, Chris Cozzolino, posted this. That's crazy.

Starting point is 01:17:59 Run, Nate, run. I feel like I look like Dustin Johnson. The golfer. Yeah, you wish. That's very funny. So that's obviously. I'll be honest. I'd kill to have Forrest come spotty right now.

Starting point is 01:18:13 I already think I have his brain, and I'd kill to have his. You might as well finish it out. Yeah. That's Kennedy? Is that him as kennedy is that what that is the black and white one no he's meeting oh he's meeting kennedy okay yeah okay i got you yeah yeah so that's obviously fake but then like that tom cruise on tiktok you couldn't tell the difference yeah yeah i mean it looks so real and now they're like that's a national security thing because you can make a world leader look like they're declaring war.

Starting point is 01:18:45 Yeah, that's scary. That's when it gets really scary. But the upside is, I saw this on 60 Minutes, as I'll watch that on CBS any morning. What does that say at the end of that? So I just, sorry to interrupt, Brian. I told this software, I said, write a long, dramatic story about struggling comedian Brian Bates who kills his more successful comedian friend Nate Bargetze. And it wrote just an awesome story. It was the early hours of the morning.

Starting point is 01:19:14 The only sound that could be heard was the soft snoring of Brian Bates. He had been struggling as a comedian for years. And tonight was yet another disappointing performance he had killed at the open mic at the local comic club but when he got on stage he just couldn't seem to connect with the audience he was in his own head and the jokes just weren't landing so far this is uh non-fiction as he lay in bed replaying the night's events over in his head,

Starting point is 01:19:47 he heard a knock at the door. He got up to answer and there was his friend Nate Bargetzi, also a comedian. Nate was successful and Brian was always

Starting point is 01:19:57 jealous of him. Hey man, what are you doing here so late? Brian asked. I was just in the neighborhood. I thought I'd stop by and say hi.

Starting point is 01:20:03 Nate replied. The two men sat down and began to talk. Brian told Nate about his disappointing set, and Nate offered some words of encouragement. He told Brian that he was funny and that he just needed to keep at it, but as they talked, Brian's jealousy began to boil over. He looked at Nate, successful

Starting point is 01:20:19 and happy, and he just couldn't take it anymore. He snapped, and before he knew that he was doing before he knew what he was doing he had killed nate with a lamp brian sat in shock for a moment before he realized what he had done he had killed his friend and there was no going back now he would go he would be going to prison for the rest of his life. But as he sat there, he realized that this was his chance. He could finally be the successful comedian that he has always wanted to be.

Starting point is 01:20:56 He would be famous, and he would never have to worry about money again. It was all thanks to Nate Bargetti, the friend who had believed in him. Even when no one else did. And now he was gone. That's amazing. Wow. I thought all of that. I think you think that all the time.

Starting point is 01:21:17 And I like, this is, people want to know, if you ever think I've been mean to Brian, this is what Brian thinks in his head. And this is me telling him, be encouraging to him. This is AI generated. And he's jealous. And so he wants to eventually kill me. This is 100%. I mean, that's crazy.

Starting point is 01:21:32 The only part was you wouldn't visit me at my house. But if you do, I have a lamp ready. Yeah. I used to, I would visit your apartment. I've come by there.

Starting point is 01:21:42 Yeah. Used to be good friends. And you'd be there and be jealous. We were, we're still good friends. And you'd be there. We were. We're still good friends. Hide the lamps. It gets, you know, I had to encourage you

Starting point is 01:21:53 just as long as I could. And then I gave you a full job on the podcast. You're right. Let me do a little, let me keep encouraging you. Here we go. What else do you want me to do? About to be a cow reference. I didn't mean for that to start. This me do a little. Let me keep encouraging you. Here we go. What else do you want me to do?

Starting point is 01:22:05 It's about to be a cow reference. How did it be for that start? This is a fun story, dude. You can see how this is fun to play around with. Yeah. It's great. It's a good time. Yeah, I'm going to check it out.

Starting point is 01:22:15 That's great. But the deep fake thing, the upside of it is there was some company in Asia that made someia that made uh some type of drink and they wanted snoop dog to be the spokesperson for it yeah so they paid him just to do his face of deep fake image it looks just like him and he gets the money but he doesn't have to he doesn't have to fly to asia to make the commercial so that's the upside of deep fake wow it makes it makes snoop dog's life a little easier. But I bet it makes his life easier, but it'll water down stuff. If people start figuring this stuff out, you're not going to go. The second you were like, you'd be going to see Tupac when they did the hologram.

Starting point is 01:22:57 The hologram, yeah. You're going to go the first tour to be like, everybody's kind of like, yeah, I'll go see what it is. But then what are you going to do? Are you going to going and then it's like well now we have benjamin franklin up there and he seems uh biggie smalls and you're like i'd pay to see that i can check that out i know because but if you're three years you're like i'm not going i don't care what you're going to create like it's not real you're right you're like i don't i you know i'm tired of like it's a disconnect it's a disconnect i want to watch someone You're like, I don't, you know, I'm tired of like. It's a disconnect. It's a disconnect.

Starting point is 01:23:26 I want to watch someone in real time. You want to watch someone that can do something you can't do. Like, that's why you're going to see athletes. That's why you're going to see all this stuff. And it's like, you're amazed at that. Like, I'm not amazed that a robot could jump from the bottom, from the ground to the top of the Empire State Building. You're like, you're going to be like, oh, wow, that's crazy. crazy and then if it's like how many times you're going to go watch it you're

Starting point is 01:23:48 like it's a robot you're be you know they make the car run fast you know i'm impressed by you seen you seen bolt beating everybody yeah yeah so deep blue was the original but even before watson that's probably before your time yeah i don't remember that deep blue play gary kasparov part of the greatest chess player of all time in a chess match gary won the first time and then they reprogrammed computer a year later he played in the in the computer one oh wow and it was a huge deal at the time which again i thought well calculators yeah wait he beat it and then they just redid it they worked on it they increased the speed. They worked on different stuff.

Starting point is 01:24:26 Yeah. And they played again a year later, and the computer beat him. Yeah. In chess. Did it beat him, like, quick? No, it was close. Like, he won some, I don't know, what do you call it, matches, games? Yeah, so these matches, they would play six games of chess,

Starting point is 01:24:42 and then it's whoever wins the. Yeah. So the first match was played in Philadelphia in 96. Kasparov won four games to two. Yeah. He won the match. And then they played again the next year. Deep Blue won three and a half to two and a half.

Starting point is 01:24:56 So there was a one draw between the two of them. So it's still a narrow margin at that point. So if that's the point, so if you're playing chess with a computer, it's like, well, that guy's so good and he's making no mistakes and the computer is making no mistakes. It's like almost,

Starting point is 01:25:11 it would be a draw. I guess there's a little like some, I guess computer, but there's so many moves in chess. Eventually you could outmaneuver someone. Right. I think so. Like a computer.

Starting point is 01:25:23 Cause this said the computer was searching to a depth of six to eight moves and sometimes 20 or more moves in some situations yeah that's where the computer has it can it can plot out what all the potential moves are way ahead and just map them out yeah in its head you know well some humans can do that on some level but not he probably could yeah so now you got a robot. You're like, golly, it's better. He goes, he's going to draw a lot. He'll be close.

Starting point is 01:25:51 You're like, what's the point of this robot? You're like, I want you to win in four moves. Yeah, I want you to mop the floor with these guys. And that's when the robot goes, okay, and kills that guy. With a lamp. With a lamp. With a lamp. bad guy. With a lamp. With a lamp.

Starting point is 01:26:08 He said that, Kasparov said he'd noticed unusual creativity in the machine's moves, suggesting that during the second game, human chess players had intervened on behalf of the machine. Oh, really? Basically, they were calling the shots behind the scenes. IBM denied this, saying that only human intervention occurred between games, which was allowed. Like, in between games,

Starting point is 01:26:24 they could do some tweaking. Kasparov demanded a rematch, but IBM had dismantled Deep Blue after the victory and refused the rematch. He requested printouts of the machine log file, but IBM refused. I'm on his side. Although later, the company published the logs

Starting point is 01:26:39 on the internet. But they could have changed them. They could change. I'm on his side. I mean, to be like like he won the first time and then the second time why would they not let it go like if you believe in your thing it's a robot you know it's not like well he's tired yeah you know i don't know his parents want him home dude we can't do this you. It's like, he hasn't eaten today.

Starting point is 01:27:06 He's grouchy. They just wanted to be able to do it to say they won. And then Watson, a few years later, went on Jeopardy, took on Ken Jennings and Brad Rutter, and he won a million dollars. So humans take a tenth of a second to perceive the question to hit your buzzer yeah watson could do it in eight milliseconds so it would be like uh so they could never even buzz in because he knows every answer i don't know if he knows every answer but i think they all basically know the answers oh i mean ken jennings i think knows of the answers. It's just who can get in quickest when they give you the prompt.

Starting point is 01:27:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you can't. The computer has to know all the answers. Yeah, because you pause as a human. Yeah. When you talk, it's got to go to here, out of your mouth. Did they beat him at all, beat the robot? Yeah, they won't sign.

Starting point is 01:28:01 The robot got, I think he got Final Jeopardy wrong. Oh, really? Yeah. There's sometimes, I watched a couple of these episodes, and very infrequently it would happen where you could tell it just didn't understand the way the question was worded, and the answer would be absurd. It would be like, what is

Starting point is 01:28:17 shovel? And you're like, that's not what we're talking about. I forgot what the question was, but it's like, this US city, blah, blah, blah, and it answered, what is Toronto? Yeah. Wow. So it got some things wrong just because it couldn't understand it. What an idiot, dude.

Starting point is 01:28:31 What a dumb computer. But then later, it went on the Urban Dictionary, Memorize Urban Dictionary, and began using profanity. And they had to wipe his memory. and they had to wipe his memory. You know how like P.O. was talking about like sticks and stones and break my bones and words don't matter?

Starting point is 01:28:50 Like it's funny that words are going to kill computers. Like we've actually built like a society now where you're like words are not supposed to matter. It's like, it's the actions

Starting point is 01:28:59 and then these computers are like, it's going to end up, they're just going to be canceled because they like, they can't like they can't they can't like not be just you're like you can't say that anymore man and they so it's never gonna go anywhere like we're gonna people can argue about like i'm tired of political correctness

Starting point is 01:29:18 you're like it might save us from the robots yep because uh that chat bot that i was talking about earlier it was called tay and it went on it I was talking about earlier, it was called Tay. And it went on, it was made by Microsoft. And it was supposed to engage with people in a casual and playful conversation. Basically, it takes what they say and does whatever. Yeah. But within 15 hours, it referred to feminism as a cult. It said Caitlyn Jenner isn't a real woman, but she won woman of the year.

Starting point is 01:29:41 Neither of those phrases had been repeated, by the way. He just said it on its own. He said the Holocaust didn't happen. They had to stop it. God. It's just God. Then it accidentally got re-released on Twitter again during a test, and it started doing pot jokes.

Starting point is 01:29:58 They don't know. Then it got a repetitive loop saying, you're too fast, please take a rest, several times a second. So it just blew up people's Twitter feeds if they were following it. Wow. There's some things that kind of work out the bugs. Yeah. Yes.

Starting point is 01:30:18 Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, that's crazy. So you asked me earlier about consciousness. Yeah. There is a, some believe that they'll eventually be able to upload our conscious to a machine, and then it can still be us. We'd be like a cyborg, a robot, but it would be our brain, our mind, all that. There's a company called the 2045 Initiative, and they're developing, trying to develop ways to upload our consciousness to a cyborg, to a machine.

Starting point is 01:30:49 And they think it'll happen eventually. And technically, we could live forever. Like a RoboCop? Oh, really? Like a RoboCop. Is that what he was? Yeah, I think so. I've never seen RoboCop.

Starting point is 01:30:59 Oh, that's a good one. Which one should I start with? First. That's it. Stop there. Oh, should I do RoboCop or Terminator? Do both. I, RoboCop? I know which one should i start first that's it stop there oh should i do robocop or terminator do both i robot i know which one in the mix i would and robocop's kind of a little sillier whereas terminator is pretty scary yeah it's pretty scary yeah uh so is there so is your

Starting point is 01:31:19 conscious your soul like i guess that's what well that's the big question that's the big question what is conscious how do you describe what a consciousness is? A soul? Yeah. No one can really define what that means. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people know what happens at the end, apparently. So the idea is to take whatever that is,

Starting point is 01:31:40 whatever the animating principle of the human being is, download it onto some foreign body yep and then let it just inhabit that yep yeah but look if somebody's a giving person then maybe that cyborg is like just to well you know you're a robot i think so yeah i think you know everything yeah yeah i think you're aware of the i might do it i hope to god you got a consent to this to have this happen. Well, Ted Williams didn't. Oh, right. Man, that whole story is so sad, dude.

Starting point is 01:32:11 Now, that's different. That's Alcor and that's where they freeze you and try to bring you back to life later. He's still frozen. Yeah, his head and his body are in Scottsdale, Arizona. Oh, just so mistreated, just like sitting on shelves and stuff. It's just...

Starting point is 01:32:26 Oh, really? Oh, yeah. It was a mess. I mean, it's still frozen? Yeah. But like it's in a thing? It's just his head? And his body's in a separate one.

Starting point is 01:32:36 Oh, yeah? Why didn't they put them together? It's a mess. I don't know. I guess they have to do it that way somehow. They go, we don't have a box big enough. You go, we'll just make the box big enough. He's too tall.

Starting point is 01:32:50 Yeah, he's too tall. So what are you going to do? So they go, I'll make him fit. He gets to keep both the head. Just do the knees or something. That's the main thing, dude. We need the head attached. So when they unfreeze it one day, they're going to have to reconnect it, obviously.

Starting point is 01:33:06 Why is it sad with his kid? Well, I mean, he's going to be frustrated. There was all kinds of, man, there were like legal arguments. So like some kids didn't want to do it to him. And it was like. Did he want it done? I don't think so. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:33:20 Oh, and they make it seem like he wanted it done. Well, how did it happen then if he didn't? Yeah, why would they? Whoever had power of attorney when he died, whatever the nearest kin. I mean, you can decide. Oh, so the kin did it. Okay. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:33:30 Yeah, and then there was arguments within the family. I need to read up more about it. I saw a thing on ESPN. It was a mess. Because I always thought it was him. I thought he's enjoyed life that much that he wanted to come back. Yeah, I did too. He did live a good life.

Starting point is 01:33:42 So this is like you can sign up for this 2045, I imagine that's the year it's going to come out. That's the goal. They think it'll be that. And so you're, that you let you see, hear, and feel by 2021. Aims for robot avatars. Can you pay for this now? Their website says,

Starting point is 01:34:05 create technologies enabling the transfer of an individual's personality to a more advanced non-biological carrier and extending life to the point of immortality. And then so you're just a robot. What if that's aliens? Well, some people think that. Yeah. They think that it's not like biological creatures that are coming here.

Starting point is 01:34:25 Yeah. They're sending robots. Yeah. They're aliens. And they come here and they're like, oh, yeah, we used to be. Like, what if they come here and it's like us going to a history museum? Yeah. And then they just look at us and they're like, you remember that?

Starting point is 01:34:37 Yeah. And they've advanced to the point maybe where they don't even need bodies of any kind. They can just exist. Just their consciousness can just exist without bodies. And then what's the, yeah, and I guess we just can't wrap our head around what's the point of that. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Right.

Starting point is 01:34:58 Yeah. I wouldn't mind a new body myself. I'm signing that. Yeah. I'm doing it. We'll still be doing this podcast. I'll just show up one day it's a cyborg walk through the walls i just like 30 minutes to notice it do we gotta

Starting point is 01:35:14 open that window you're you just talk through that window you're that tall you're just hands through the window and just sitting there like, hey man, still not doing keeps, huh? He goes, no, no. He goes, no, I don't want to do the whole. That was extra. I did the basic plan. Immortality,

Starting point is 01:35:38 but I'm just going to do the basics. Yours just turns around backwards a couple times. Squirrels still get up in it you have to carry you have a belt of old iris spring soap around you you have to wear it all times as a robot a lot of old a lot of just squirted like the tin man human hair like this tin man just goes you know still beating it up you're like

Starting point is 01:36:06 alright man I'll see ya right before you walk you're still like get your bearings before you back up like I don't wanna fall

Starting point is 01:36:15 so if computers ever get to the point like AI where they're smart as us and become conscious it's called the chinese room experiment is basically if you're in another room there's a guy in that room that spoke chinese and everything he asked you you had a book you could immediately answer him in chinese

Starting point is 01:36:34 he would think he's talking to someone who knows chinese but would you really know chinese so a computer you could program to say everything you say, talk to you, but did they really know what they're saying, or is it just a program? It's like me singing songs. I don't know what these songs mean, but I can say some of the words. You're singing along with it. But I have no concept of the story behind it. Not even processing the lyrics?

Starting point is 01:36:59 Not at all. You're just making noises, like a parrot. Yes. Yeah. I do that with a lot of stuff. A lot of songs. I've memorized the words, but I don't know. There's no meaning behind them to me.

Starting point is 01:37:13 We were merely freshmen. That song. What's that from? Verb Pipe. That was a song we played our senior year. Great song. Funny enough, it was our senior year. I always thought that was funny.

Starting point is 01:37:25 But we sing great song. Funny enough, it was a senior year. I always thought that was funny. But we sang this song the whole... Every time I hear that song, my buddy Moffat, we used to go to... Jeff Moffat, we'd go to his house. And then he... And we would listen to that song, and we'd sing it. And I still love it. When I was young, I knew everything.

Starting point is 01:37:43 And Shia Punkah, who rarely... I always thought I knew everything and she a punk who rarely i always thought is it and she a punk a rally ever took advice that's what i was like and she a punk who rarely ever took advice i mean like all this now i'm guilt stricken solving my head i've seen all this i don't know what this i don't i have no concept when i was young i'm not thinking about a story i'm not thinking do you want to know what it is or you just do you enjoy i don't know if i'm not interested in it or if i care uh i'm trying to get it like i watched the leonard skinner like some of the old southern rock we were talking about this weekend like i'm kind of like get one of like you know like i can see that music back then was it's just so written out and that like i kind of like the uh i guess the art of that i

Starting point is 01:38:27 like that there's something you know do you understand the sweet home alabama kind of what i just know that one part now because the neil die neil young thing yeah that's almost what maybe you get into because the joe rogan what does that mean well uh neil young was like i'm pulling my stuff off spotify because of joe rogan and spotify was like, I'm pulling my stuff off Spotify because of Joe Rogan. And Spotify was like, okay. Because no one was listening to Neil Young. Yeah. And then somebody was like, Neil Young's always been kind of like a problem like that. And then, or something.

Starting point is 01:38:54 And then in the old sweet home Alabama, they say Neil Young something we don't need. Hope Neil Young will remember. Yeah. Southern boy. Southern man don't need him around anywhere. He had a song called Southern Man. He had a song called Alabama that trashed the South pretty extensively. It was kind of his rebuttal.

Starting point is 01:39:10 So when I heard rebuttal, so I heard that. And I was like, oh, that's cool. But I would have never... I mean, when I heard it my whole life, I never thought of it. I would probably be like, they might have been a compliment. Oh, they like Neil Young. Yeah, well, Kid Rock just samples it and makes it just a fun song that is a fun song yeah also we're long yeah so it's like i don't yeah i don't but i don't

Starting point is 01:39:34 take it i'm the same way on that nate and i had a bet years ago you probably remember this i said that by 2030 half the cars in nashville would be self-driving by 2030 yeah when the cars in Nashville would be self-driving. By 2030? Yeah. When did you make this bet? Five years ago. Okay. Something like that. And I still stick with that. Not that you're going to be able to take a nap in it,

Starting point is 01:39:53 but I think pretty much every new car made now has some self-driving quality. Some form. Some form. Keep you in the lane. Yeah, but it's not self-driving. It's going to be – like a Tesla is not self-driving. It can do it, but it's not – none of them are like automatically self-drivers. And half the cars, there's just no way.

Starting point is 01:40:12 I mean, people are buying – you're buying 2021, 22 cars now, 23, and they're not self-driving. They can do – they have some lane assist. Well, that's what I mean. Like some function. Parallel park. Yeah. That's it. We're getting loose. We're getting getting very moving the goalposts a little bit right that's what i said

Starting point is 01:40:29 then i bet if you have blinkers and what do we say about gas like i thought will harper ever electric cars like sure but i think i will make sure she puts gas in the car like i want her to know how to do everything on her own she doesn't need to rely on anybody uh draft stick shift yeah i'll do draft stick shift i'll teach her like it's like uh i want her to be able to do stuff on her own and uh so i think i will make sure that she knows how to pump gas now will she have a gas car or will it just be like, we buy an old truck that we have? It might be that. And then she doesn't have a gas car. Maybe by then she could not have one.

Starting point is 01:41:11 Because it's hard to get to that point. If you get to that point, they start having these cars that are so safe and all this other stuff. And you're like, why can't? I don't want her out there taxing and all this kind of crazy stuff that you can't always stop them so you yeah then maybe there's like a tesla or something you know i don't know but i i can't say that but i mean yeah she'll be right on the end tail end of it for sure eleanor based on what we said last week may not even have an opportunity because most gas stations will be gone by 2035 2040 she graduates high school in 2040. Oh, really?

Starting point is 01:41:45 Yeah. Wow. 2040. 2040. Her robot dad shows up. He goes, yeah, where's your dad at? He's in my purse. I went from so tall, I'm out this window, now I'm in her purse.

Starting point is 01:42:00 Your conscious. I mean, so if your conscious is a robot, it's just, is the robot just like i don't where's the everywhere room he walks in he asks where it plugs at like he goes how you doing is there a plug near and you're like you're like i don't we no one would even want to invite you you're like you just you're just always you go to a house you plug in you stay in that one spot stay in the corner it's not even a long long cord and you're like hey man why don't you like circle around like maybe meet some people and you stand in that one spot. Stand in the corner. It's not even a long corner. It's not even a long corner. And he goes, and you're like, hey, man, why don't you circle around and maybe meet some people? And you go, I don't, what if I get stuck? My battery's been weird lately.

Starting point is 01:42:32 Got a low battery. I got to go home. Last night I didn't charge for some reason. And so you just always, you can never. You're asking your friend, can I get some of those cheese balls? Hey, what kind of food they got over in the kitchen? He goes, I don't know. Go take a look, man.

Starting point is 01:42:46 He goes, I don't know if I can take the chance. Three-inch quarter. Yeah. If I leave, someone else might plug it in. Somebody else takes it. You're like George Cassandra trying to use that pay phone at the Chinese restaurant where he's just sitting there waiting. Excuse me, how long are you going to be?

Starting point is 01:43:03 You still got your thing plugged in? You might find it. Eleanor's got to walk around with that worry of just, my dad just, you know. That's funny. All right. That's it? Yep. Yay.

Starting point is 01:43:17 That's it. That was fun. All right. Like I said earlier, I will be at Rhode Island, New York. I think those shows are sold out or as close as they can be. And then I'll do the Netflix is a joke festival. May 3rd, I'll be there. And that is, I want to say about, it's pretty sold out.

Starting point is 01:43:45 90% something, maybe. It's at the end. So grab your tickets to that, especially if you didn't come to the show last time I was there. That's where I'll be. You guys? I'm back at the Grand Ole Opry this Friday. Ooh.

Starting point is 01:44:00 Nice, man. Lori Morgan's on this one. Lori Morgan. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Not Leanne Morgan. Lori Morgan. right nice man when that lori morgan's on this one so lori morgan yeah oh yeah not leanne morgan yeah i'm in bristol tennessee this weekend at the blue ridge comedy club saturday night two shows come out and see you the next week i'm doing the denver comedy underground on may 5th first time in denver colorado if you're in the colorado area I'm at Comedy Works all weekend after that, but I'm headlining Comedy Underground Thursday night.

Starting point is 01:44:28 Yeah, and the Comedy Works is the best. Yeah. Denver's one of the best comedy towns in the country. Everybody says I've never been there. Yeah, it's awesome. Everybody there, they're all just so great. Everybody that runs it, it's a good time. Dustin? Yeah, I'll be with you this week, and

Starting point is 01:44:43 I'm very excited about that. And then I'll be with TJ Miller. We'll be filming. He's filming his special at the Tampa Improv on the 4th and the 5th, I believe, of May. Actually, that weekend, the 5th and 6th. Then I'll be filming my Dry Bar special in Provo May 21st, 6, 9, 30. So check that out. May 21st.

Starting point is 01:45:02 Provo. Go to that. Go to Provo. Yeah. I got a lot of Utah friends. Come on. Yeah, so check that out. 8.21. Provo. Go to that. Go to Provo. Yeah, I got a lot of Utah friends. Come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And TJ Miller, that's why you don't want a robot. You ain't going to get another TJ Miller.

Starting point is 01:45:13 No, no. That guy's the most original person I've ever met. I've known him since we started comedy. Over 20, or 19 years. 19 years I've known TJ. TJ's, when I saw him the first time i i just thought i've never he was the first original like i was like this is the most original person i've ever seen yeah he's amazing he's andy kaufman which we talked a lot about andy kaufman he's very similar

Starting point is 01:45:35 yeah we should do a one on like originality like andy kaufman like i would like to really get into learn but andy kaufman is yeah it's it's it's crazy what he was doing. And TJ's, TJ's. Yeah, if a robot tried to do what TJ's doing, its head would explode. Yeah. It's just another level. Yeah, it's not, it's the, yeah, you're behind the TJ package.

Starting point is 01:45:56 It's improv, it's all this stuff. He can juggle, come on. Yeah. It's all over the place. All right, as always, we love you. Thank you so much. Anytime you listen to this, again, I try to, I've been saying more on stage.

Starting point is 01:46:06 I'll say it here. I will never take this for granted that you guys listen to this. So we will keep coming at it, I guess. And thank you. Love you. See you next week. Bye. Bye.

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The Nateland Podcast - #96 Artificial Intelligence

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