The Nateland Podcast - A Special Episode About Comedy Specials

Episode Date: March 19, 2021

Surprise folks! Nate's new comedy special The Greatest Average American is out now on Netflix! Thanks to everyone who's already watched it! We want to thank our Nateland listeners by releasing a special episode where we talk about comedy specials. It's a special about specials! Hope you enjoy it!   Co-hosts: Brian Bates ( https://www.instagram.com/brianbatescomic) & Aaron Weber ( https://www.instagram.com/realaaronweber)   Podcast produced by Nate & Laura Bargatze Recording & Editing by Genovations Media https://www.natebargatze.com https://www.allthingscomedy.com https://www.genovationsmedia.com Email - [e-mail]

surprise folks got a little extra one in no one knew it was coming not even basically you guys uh welcome we decided if we're recording this today my special uh is out right now and uh so this will come out tomorrow the 19th uh and we just wanted to do one uh you know just a thank you to everybody that's i mean people have already watched the special came out you know it comes out at 3 a.m eastern and uh you already got already got people that watched it, which is nice. I mean, it's crazy. Sometimes people, it's like, well, if you're in Pacific time, it's midnight. So that's not that hard to...

I was up to like 1.30 last night. Yeah. And so it's two here. Last time I saw it, this time I was pretty beat. And so I was like i'm just going it's it's gonna come on you know you were so close i was so i know and i i just had stuff today so i had to do a bunch of stuff so i had to get up i mean early like now i had to wake up at like 9 15 come on that's insane crack of dawn crack of dawn 9 15 uh so i knew that was coming

i woke up the day before 7 30 i had to do morning radio yesterday uh or that's what you're calling rogan now yeah morning yeah rogan's morning radio drop time so uh no after rogan after we that morning i had to do so you have to do radio tours and uh so it's where you call a guy calls your phone and then you just sit and go to different stations so i'm just on the phone and he's like all right we're gonna go first it's a rock station indianapolis you know and tells me who they are and then you go to it and you're just on the air you're live you're live sometimes they're pre- then you go to it and you're just on the air. You're live? You're live.

Sometimes they're pre-taping them and sometimes they're live. And so you just click and you're on. They're like, what's with Sidney Rene Bargatze? He's got the greatest average American special. And then you just start talking to him, whatever. And then you just, he's like, all right. And then when that one's done, he's like, all right, now we're going to Cincinnati. This is a country station.

And then you're just on. And so you're just on. And so you just do that for three hours. Wow. And I mean, there's times where you go, what city is this? You're just kind of rapid, kind of firing. And if they go long, they're timed so, the timing of it is like so scheduled that I mean, some of them, I would be mid-sentence and he's like i'm like talking i'm still like yeah you know the special is exciting the guy's like all right we left that

one we're in the next radio and i'm like oh okay and i'm just then it's like yeah i'm excited about the specials in another talking to another place and it was it was very funny to how quick it how quick it went uh so yeah so we wanted to do uh just kind of a since it's the specials out kind of a special episode uh also the nateland live podcast taping uh i don't know if you know it is sold out it is it is sold out wow pretty crazy already sold out something that i know that i know that you guys do not know though is we are adding a second show oh all right so i didn't know we're sold out so yeah wow second show is added wow and it is on sale and uh so at zany's april 15th we'll be doing two live nateland podcast tapings uh we're still figuring that show out but i think it's good i

think it'll be good i think i think it's gonna be comment heavy I think it's good. I think it'll be good. I think it's going to be comment heavy. I think it's going to be kind of, you know, I'm hoping to get some live comments and all that kind of stuff and do something more for all the folks out there listening. So this special. So, yes, Prom uh promoted has been uh pretty wild we did i went to uh austin i did rogan uh which was the first time i you know i've told

the story about meeting rogan here so that was my only really experience with him i maybe a couple times here and there i've been around you know because i'm friends with all his friends uh but dude he's the best just the best i mean a super like humble guy you know signed a giant spotify deal but just a real guy yeah comic loves comedy loves being a comedian and that's which is my favorite is because you know it's like guys that are true to like no no, dude, we're just we all just look at ourselves like we're just road comics. Some people get to get up to the top. Some don't. It's like, but that's we're all the same.

We're all just bouncing around doing comedy on the road. And the show was awesome. That's such a giant show. And it was very cool. Then afterwards, we went to him and Chpelle did a show at stubbs barbecue they do a show there and uh i gotta go to that and hang out nice and watch it and so uh got to see chapelle and it was in michelle wolf was there i'm friends with michelle and so we just hung out back there and uh hung out all night and they hung out till i mean till like one that's when i

slept got no sleep and then woke up the next morning to that radio thing. I woke up, weirdly, I woke up at 4.45 that morning, and I was so confused. Like I was thinking I had to be up at 7.45 Eastern, and I was thinking I was in Pacific time, and I was like, I guess I got to get up now because I got to do the radio. And I mean, I'm just like looking at the

clock i'm just confused and then i but then man when i find out i have three more hours of sleep that was not not much better than that yeah it's almost worth it to just set it artificially early so that you can go back to sleep yeah feels that good and and no and not like just, oh, 10 more minutes. I mean. Three more hours. Three more hours. You're like, ooh. That was nice. But, yeah, the whole Rogan experience. I mean, it's funny. I've got a lot of texts about it.

Like, what's Rogan like? What's Rogan? You know, it's like. Because I'm like everybody else. You don't know. I don't really know the guy that well. But, I mean, he's just a great dude, man. Like, he was, you know know not that i would tell you

if he wasn't but i wouldn't be saying that he i would just be like had a great time yeah he's that good of a guy and yannis told me which we had yannis here yannis said that he's like dude he's he's like a just a sweetheart dude that's just what he is you know and uh he's roots for comics and that's what i love someone to get that high up and to help out comics is is a big deal is there an interview show in the world bigger than rogan which you're going to get more listeners um not that i can think of man not not that i mean conan if you do conan's thing i think it's pretty big yeah but i don't think there's anything like rogan i think it's just so different yeah and it's uh i mean dude i mean if he's in the smithsonian like couldn't he be in that don't they do tv

stuff in there like they have like the cosby chair the yeah they have the uh seinfeld puffy shirt yeah seinfeld puffy shirt cosby chair might not be there anymore but uh what was the cosby chair you know not chair cosby sweater or something or whatever it was was it a chair i don't remember there being like an iconic chair no archie archie bunker archie bunker yeah okay because he's like lazy boy yeah i feel like cosby had his sweater in there he always wears a crazy sweater yeah archie bunker had a chair yeah yeah yeah yeah the cosby Yeah. Yeah. The Cosby one. They all just, I just pictured them hauling that back out. They're like,

I have to, I have to, two doors have to spring open and you're, you know, and part of the Titanic's right there and you're like squeezing by it. Cause you got to move, you got to haul it out of there. I don't know if they hauled,

if they got a sweater out, they probably did. Can't do stuff. They get out of there. I don't know if they haul it, if they got a sweater out. They probably did. Can't do stuff. They get rid of it. Gone. So, yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know.

I mean, Rogan's got to be – I mean, it's the top, man. I mean, it's, you know. People make the comparison all the time of it being like Johnny Carson's Tonight Show. It's like the closest thing we have now. So it's like a really close thing. I mean, he's made people. Yeah. And so that's – I think that thing. I mean, he's made people. Yeah.

And so I think that's the sign of if you're making careers. And he has done that, which is insane to be that big of a thing. So, yeah, so the special. So, I mean, this episode is not going to be the longest one. We just kind of wanted to get on and uh a i wanted to thank everybody for watching and all that stuff uh and then but it's i you know i wanted to talk about specials or any of you know the the world around that you know you get asked a lot of stuff about it i get asked a lot about the is it can they watch it versus to come see me is it going

to be different and i know we've addressed that a bunch. But again, do whatever you want. I mean, I'm hoping by the time the theater tour starts, I'll be an hour new. I think I got 25, 30 minutes new now. If you come see me at one of the comedy clubs coming up, I think I'll have half new and then half probably not new. But you never know.

Maybe I'll get a nice 20- 20 minute chunk that's what you're that's what you're looking for just a nice run like that what do we have on specials well you guys remember the first comedy special that you ever saw so i remember the yeah mine is uh sinbad afros and bell bottoms oh wow and so i remember that is that the one outside i don't i don't i don't know if i remember that well uh okay it was uh i remember emmy wore i want to say purple pants or something or a purple jumpsuit okay something like that and i remember watching it because he was a clean comedian so yeah we were allowed to watch him and i just remember his ordering mcdonald's like someone's sitting at the mcdonald's menu not knowing what uh uh how to order mcdonald's and he was just like

you know like it's insane not to know yeah yeah what it is okay that's not the one i'm thinking about there was one he shot maybe in jamaica or something outside uh i don't know when was that yes this is that's the outfit just yeah this is what a power move that is to wear that. Yeah, it fits him. I mean, it's kind of perfect. It's it looks good for that crazy of an outfit, too. It does look good. I still think it looks good right now.

You know what I mean? Like sometimes you look at these outfits and they don't stand. Some don't hold up at all. And that one, you're kind of like, I don't know, dude. I'm kind of on board with it. I would love to see you do your next special in something like that, man. I would love to. If I could wear a jumpsuit, I would do it.

I mean, just it's a one-piece, I imagine. Is that what a jumpsuit is? Just to have a one and just be like, this is what I'm wearing. I think that's a two-piece there. No, I think he's just got a belt around the middle. It's one-piece and he still has a belt? You think he just put a belt over a jumpsuit? I think it's like what Santa Claus sleeps in is what I think it is.

And then he puts a belt around it. I mean, I think girls do that, right? They have jumpsuits. But Santa Claus has – I don't know. It's a two-piece. You don't want a two. You can't have a two-piece, dude. Like he's – I don't know, it's a two-piece. You don't want a two. You can't have a two-piece, dude.

Like he's, I don't know. Did you have any wardrobe issues this one? I did not have any wardrobe issues. My hair's got a kind of a weird thing. I don't know if you might even notice it. Yeah. But it's, I had a, when they fixed my hair, I just had the front of it kind of like had a space in between it. So if there's any side shots where it's the right of me,

you can be, you'll be able to see like a little, just it's a little space. Yeah. It shouldn't be there. Uh, normally I would have gone back a little bit more. That's the only thing that on this one is,

uh, that, that was kind of the issue I had to, so the hoodie that I'm wearing in it i had to buy that morning i went because i had i had a shirt just a t-shirt i was going to wear with that with my jacket and i mean when we went and looked at it the night before it was like 56 degrees and i was like i think i'm going to be too cold like i don't want to be cold yeah as you do this but just shivering, you know, like those drives,

some of those driving dates were just like where you were shivering and it was freezing. And so, and the 56 degrees is not the coldest, but standing for an hour, you just don't want to be tense. You don't want to be, you know, I needed to try to be as relaxed as possible. And I went that morning and bought that hoodie. So then that was the quickest I've ever bought something that. Yeah. Well, that's a wardrobe issue. Yeah. That I've ever bought something that. Yeah. Well,

that's a wardrobe issue. Yeah, that is. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. It's a wardrobe, but there was no,

yeah, nothing like there's a hole in something, but it was, yeah, that was a little, you remembered your shoes and all that. I remember my shoes. Yeah.

Yeah. We've talked about that, right? Yeah. Tennessee kid, Tennessee kid shoes got put in a cab. It costs more for the shoes to get there than it did me uh this one i had all the shoes yeah i mean i make sure now i make sure like shoes everything

is kind of there so now that you've watched it i've watched it aaron yeah i watched it this morning yeah i mean you feel good like i thought the final i thought it looked great i thought yeah awesome man yeah yeah i i uh i haven't watched it like on netflix but i've watched it before when we were editing it and uh and put it together but it's uh yeah i watched i do i do feel great i do feel good i mean the people that have watched it you know you're always very nice that you have a lot of people that will watch it right when it comes out. And they were all very nice and they loved it. And, you know, I mean, that's all you want.

You just want you hope people just really laugh and have fun and that it is what it is. I don't you know, it's hard. It's exciting when it comes out. It's it's crazy that it's here, especially just with what we've had leading up to it to go from, you know, a year ago. I mean, it's crazy. One year ago, I used to be doing theaters. This podcast does not exist. We're doing theaters. And I'm going to tell you a special.

Everything's going to be normal. To then now, what all, you know, this podcast, we did a bunch of drive-in dates we did shoot a special and the special was the only thing that was really planned that actually still came and came out yeah you refined it obviously and added some stuff but the bulk of it you had before the pandemic hit you were ready i was yeah i would have liked some you know a good run up to it yeah just to like make sure everything just to tighten everything up a little bit so that was good at least to be doing those driving dates but i mean it was definitely the weirdest it's ever been leading up to a special i mean i mean just to just have to do stuff outside and uh not be

really hear crowds i mean it was you know three months of really not been hearing the crowd outside of like doing some zany shows. You just, you know, and like, and that's almost the way you can trust it is because you would do the zany shows and they'd be half capacity, but you're at least here, I can hear the laughs. And then you got to take that to the special taping

and to even when we did those driving shows to when you're telling these jokes, just to trust, like, I think they're doing good. They've done good other places. So as long as I deliver them the right way, they're doing good now. And it'll be very memorable from years to come because it was outside, people were wearing masks, the helicopter flying over. Yeah.

I don't want it to be where it's like no one watches it ever again because it's like feels too timely yeah uh but i we did capture that a with i mean they had mask on we were trying i was like saying and they and the director uh he was saying we didn't want it to be troy miller as the director he he he was like we don't want it to be too masky, showing too many masks or too much like COVID, right? This is a COVID special. But the helicopters also captured that. I'll be interested to see what people think of it. Helicopters is the thing that I want to see what people think about.

Just because it was like, if you haven't watched it yet, you'll see. But that was not planned at all. There's not even a thought about that being a worry until it happened. And then it happened a bunch. And for people that have either watched it or they're about to watch it, I'm not giving anything away. But we did find out the reason there was so many helicopters, there was a police chase near the Universal Studios where we filmed it.

And so there was a police chase near the universal studios where we filmed it and so there was a police chase going on and that ended up being why there was so many kind of flying over throughout the show because i think there was even a little bit more than we put in but we put in just uh i think like four times or something like that yeah yeah yeah you what's your first special? Do you remember? Yes. Sweat the Small Stuff by Kevin James. I remember my brother bootlegged it, and I had that special memorized word for word. I used to perform it for people on field trips and stuff, and I still watch it every now and then.

I think it holds up. I think that's like an all-time great special. I agree. So funny. Yeah. That was my first one, man. Yeah. I agree that I remember watching that one,

and I remember when he talked about riding the Sea-Doo and the Wave Runner and getting stuck behind it. And when I saw that joke the week before, I had that same problem with the Wave Runner. Oh, yeah. And so, man, that I, it hit me hard. Like I laughed so hard just cause it was,

it was such a, it just happened to me. I went with my buddy, John Paul, like, and it just happened with that. I just had trouble with this and he just described it perfectly. He has a whole bit about a water skiing and he can't water ski.

And he's got the anxiety of like his friends on the boat being like yeah who brought this guy yeah and you know i told y'all i just started taking golf lessons and i told the instructor i was like i want to get to a point where if i could potentially tag along and not have the rest of the people going god who brought this that was my goal too. Yeah. It still is. Just to not be a liability. Yeah. So I think about that particular bit all the time.

You don't want – he's going to take his own cart. That's what you do. That's what we throw. We just throw Brian in his own cart. I mean, my goal in golf is for no one to notice me. Yeah. I know I'm not going to be that good where they'll notice me. I just don't want to be so bad. That's not a bad goal just in life in general, I think. Well, I'm doing great in comedy. I'm not going to be that good where they'll notice me. I just don't want to be so bad. That's not a bad goal just in life in general.

Well, I'm doing great comedy. I'm killing it. Yeah. You're too good at it. I did – I like the idea of like I live my life like that. I know in comedy we're not doing that. But I go in every business I go into, you're just trying not to be a bother, not to be, you want to be just the most normal experience that they've ever had.

And they go, yeah, they were very nice. Oh, yeah. And they don't really remember you. And you just get in and get out. That's the best. That's the best way. What was your first special? Andy Griffith?

I was going to ask you if you wanted to guess and i knew you would say something like that but you made me do it so you want to guess again andy uh i don't know if people know do people know andy griffith was a comedian there could be a lot did you know that somebody just told me that recently i knew that he kind of but he was like a serious comic for a while, right? Yeah. I only know him from the show and from music. He had a joke about watching football for the first time. And I mean, might have been like literally going to watch football. It's like from the 40s or something.

There's this new thing. It's called football. And he, it actually might have been like he went to a game and just haven't explained to him. And I've listened to some of his stand-up they played on and they played on like serious yeah you'd be able to listen to some of his stand-up yeah uh i would say your first special when uh i mean would have been eddie murphy raw i mean you would have been is that what it is oh wow it was, which I know doesn't quite fit my comedy.

But my parents wouldn't let me watch. We didn't have cable. And they weren't going to, whatever. So when I was in high school, Eddie Murphy Raw came out when I was in high school. And my friends rented it at the video store. And we watched it. I mean, did you not think, like, I shouldn't be watching this? Yeah, I thought that.

But I mean, by then, I'm in high school. So I think it's really cool that I'm. That's all part of the thrill yeah yeah so eddie murphy raw which i read the top grossing stand-up comedy special of all time yeah was it in theaters yeah i think it was released like a movie yeah it was uh i wish they would do that kevin hart had his do that i i like that idea it's mostly i looked at the top 10. The top eight are black comics. Black comics do it, Stum. The Kings of Comedy did it.

Kevin Hart's done it. Martin Lawrence has had a couple that have done really well. Kings of Comedy. What's so good about that special is, I mean, is all of it, but Bernie Mac. Bernie Mac was a killer. I've got him pulled up. I think Bernie Mac's Def Jam outfit is maybe the best, maybe the best outfit of all time for standup.

And it works. He pulls it off. He pulls it off. I don't think I could pull off my face airbrushed on my jeans like that. That's his famous set on Def Jam. Right. That's not a special, but it's a clip. I ain't scared of you.

Yeah, I ain't scared of you. Yeah, I ain't scared of you. Yeah. I mean, obviously, he's a little dirty, if that's your thing. If it bothers you, it doesn't bother you. But it's a very famous, like as comedians know, it's like that dude, that just describes comedy. That's like him doing that is representing every comedian to every audience and not the great audience but like rough audiences

where it's him up there i ain't scared of you like you know just keep saying that because isn't it supposedly everybody was bombing the story was that everyone was bombing on that show and then he came out and just straight up told him i'm'm not scared of you guys. Yeah. And murdered. Yeah. Yeah. I had a similar line. That's so great. Yeah. The clip has like a million views on YouTube now. Yeah.

That clip of. There's a clip. I mean, I post this. I don't know. Like I found it. Black audience surprise when white boy takes the stage. Yeah.

I come out. I was like, they just die. I laugh when I come out. Cause i come out all this like they just die laugh when i come out because i come out to like hard out here for a pimp yeah like the first thing i say is i'm the opposite of bernie mack and they got it yeah they knew exactly what i meant uh it's yeah he was when he when he did that that was such big, that's such a big deal. And it's such a big, uh, thing to like,

I mean, it just not be, I ain't scared of you. Like just the control that you had, like over an audience, like that's what it is. Like the confidence and the control. Cause he's not,

I mean, he's been killing forever at that point, but no one really knows who he is, but he's been in clubs and he, everybody that everybody that knows him knows this dude's a killer. And then he does that. And then his Kings of Comedy. I mean, he goes on at the end of that.

I mean, that one's unreal. And someone else was like, who? Cedric. Cedric. Cedric was when he backs the car up and stuff like that. I mean, that's such a show. Steve Harvey's got great. I mean, everybody's great in that one.

And then DL. DL. Steve Harvey, when he calls out that's such a show. Steve Harvey's got great. I mean, everybody's great in that one. And then DL. DL. Steve Harvey, when he calls out that guy in the front, I mean, it's unbelievable. It's in an arena. Yeah. I mean, just, I love, like, how, that's such a big audience in that special. And, like, for them to capture that, that is. It shouldn't work in the room that big.

It shouldn't. It just does that big. It shouldn't. It just does. That energy is just too... They're just that big of acts. Yeah. Yeah. Their energy is so big, and it just works in that arena that they were in. Yeah.

Well, who were the other two in the top 10? Probably Blue Collar Comedy Tour, right? That was probably one of the highest grossing. No. Steve Martin? Fluffy. Jeff of the highest grossing. No. Steve Larson? Fluffy. Jeff Dunham? Oh, Fluffy.

Fluffy was one. Yeah. And the number nine was like some weird thing. Bette Midler. And there was some type of kind of weird variety movie. Variety show. Yeah. I mean, there's not a ton that are ever released in theaters.

But so the top, well, I want to finish about Eddie Murphy's Raw. It's the top grossing movie, all-time stand-up movie, 50.5 million. Is Richard Pryor in there? I was about to get to that. Okay. It set the record for the use of the F word 223 times. Wow. Until Sticks and Stones broke it.

No, no. What's the name of your... I blew that. I blew the joke. Sticks and Stones would have been better. Oh, well. I blew that joke. 223 times in an hour? Sticks and Stones is a special. I think we just said it. Sticks and Stones is Dave Chappelle.

Okay. All right. My bad. I blew that joke. Richard Pryor, you asked about. So I looked at a couple of the rankings of top comedy specials of all time, and there's a ton of them out there. I looked up Rolling Stones and Vulture, and they each had Richard Pryor's top comedy special of all time, but two different specials, which is kind of crazy. Rolling Stone had Richard Pryor live in concert as number one,

and then Vulture had Richard Pryor live on the Sunset Strip. Yeah. Which I think that one he bombed on. He did originally, yeah. Originally bombed I think of that documentary. Yep.

Yeah. Live on the Sunset. That's the one where he came back after he'd been burned. Yeah. First time in a couple years. And I think, yeah, like bombed

and they did it again. I think so. And then it was like. I think they shot it over two nights. Yeah. And the first show was bad and then the second show

they did again. And it became what it became. I mean, the other famous bombing one of some of the bombing was Mitch Hedberg. Mitch Hedberg is like Comedy Central Presents where he sits down. And it's kind of become famous, but it's him not doing good. Like it was not good. And then he sat down. It was almost like it came together. And it's crazy just to be in that moment and you know you get that feeling

of probably something not going good and then it becomes this legendary special yeah pretty wild the richard prior the uh the first one live and that's the first one released in a movie theater first full-length stand-up. That's dessert. What is, do you have the first standup special or what's the first stand? I don't even know what would be the first, I mean, George Carlin or Bill Cosby, uh,

Mark Twain. Do you record any of his? No, no. Nate's a little bit closer than you are. Yeah. Lenny Bruce. Well,

they probably did albums, but as far as- A video special. A video. It was Richard Klein, 1975, HBO. Wow. Not Robert Klein? I'm sorry.

I'm Robert Klein. I'm bombing here. Yeah. Robert Klein. Robert Klein. I was about to say, Richard Klein. There's another- Yeah, Robert Pryor did that.

Yeah. Robert Klein did it. It was the first ever hour-long special and he said it was the first time he got to present an act and not have to be in a hurry i mean can you imagine being that he's a lot dude yep like so the first that's that's how young stand-up comedy is kind of what it is now is that robert klein yeah is alive i mean he's you know i mean he's probably 70 or something at least i mean that's less than 50 years ago the first could you imagine being the first special like you telling someone i'm tape yeah i don't even know what you're saying he's 79 now he had

to just go i'm gonna film i'm gonna film they're gonna put it on tv what what was it what was it on hbo yeah so hbo i mean hbo started it all hbo has been the king until netflix yeah um you remember when uh you were first considering doing uh the special and where to put the platform and you're like what do you think we're looking at either netflix or comedy central yeah and i was like you gotta got to do Comedy Central, man. Yeah. You got to do Comedy Central. This wasn't that long ago. This was like just a couple years ago. Yeah.

That was the day I stopped listening to breakfast. I stopped eating breakfast that morning and never looked back. You got to do Comedy Central, dude. Now nobody even knows Comedy Central exists. Well, Comedy Central was such a uh I mean such a big deal for me and so and there's people at Netflix that what I love about Netflix and what I love is the the people that have done this my any everything I've done uh is you uh you uh work with these people over this long period of time and uh Grigioniioni is over there.

She was a producer. She works with Netflix. And she's been with me. I've done, she's not with me. She's just been, I've just, she's worked at Comedy Central and Netflix. But it's since my first appearance live at Gotham.

And so she's done all of them to the Presents, to the Comedy Central special, the Hour special. And then now she's at Netflix. And I she's done all of them to the presents, to the kind of central special, the hour special. And then now she's at Netflix. And I mean, it's, it's pretty wild.

Like that. You're just with these, you know, she's been in every single one of them. And it's, I mean, it's such a crazy, it's,

it's, it's, it's a Joanne Grigioni, pretty wild. And then Robbie Praw, who's also at Netflix, he was at Montreal uh just for last festival and so like you end up working with these people and he did new faces i did new faces with him

that was 2008 and now it's 2021 and we just did a second netflix special and he was and he's i mean he's the reason he asked me to do the stand-ups He came to me, he went to Netflix and he goes, Hey, we want to do a standups. We want to do like a half hour thing. And I was like, I don't know, man, I just did an hour economy central special and Netflix is, you know, I think Segura is on there. I knew net, I know Netflix is big. It's good. It's big. It's not, it's about to be Netflix, Netflixflix but it's like and he's like we're doing a thing where i want to get like six comics we'll do like a half hour and i want you to do it and i was like i don't know dude i just did an hour like i don't want to go back to a half hour like it takes

forever to get to it to be able to do an hour on tv and now i gotta go back to a half hour and he was like i think it would be good and i remember just talking to her and talking uh talking you know me and brian when i had dinner i remember just talking to him and talking, you know, me and Brian went to dinner. I broke it down to him and gave me the worst advice. And then, but I remember talking to my managers and agents at the time, or I don't know if I had agents at the time, but my managers and talking to them and just like being like, you know, then realizing like, look, I think it's better to do it because it's not i

think netflix is gonna be just to get in that family and you want to be in that netflix family and it was like i i should do it and then i mean the rest is it's we're here where we're at uh michelle wolf was supposed to do it too and she did her own hbo special which i think she's going back she didn't know the netflix special right i think so, yeah. But I remember Michelle going to do the... I was like, I feel like she should do this half hour because I was doing it. In the half hour, I think she would have destroyed it and done great, whatever.

But her HBO special was so great. She obviously made the right decision to do what she did. And then she went back to Netflix after that. Soda had an HBO special. It seems like HBO, Netflix are the two top. Yeah. But I mean, Netflix is the, I just don't think anybody's touching Netflix right now.

Netflix has made it where people know stand up. We're not having to do TV shows. I mean, look, I want to make a TV show. I'm still going to try to make a TV show. But it's nice to be like, I don't know if it doesn't happen. You just keep putting your specials out. It just, I mean, hopefully Netflix keeps letting you, but if they do, you just keep writing new hours and putting specials out. That's what's, you know, you get to be a comedian. We get to be a standup comedian

where the older guys had to do Seinfeld, Ray Romano, Kevin James. All those guys had to do TV shows. George Carlin, I mean, he was known as a stand-up his whole time, but he had to do a bunch of movies too, a lot of stuff like that. I mean, yeah, I don't know. Netflix is obviously I'm there. I'm on it. It's on right now.

But they're just so gigantic yeah that's what everybody says they go it's like to me when are we going to see you on netflix it's like the comment every nobody's like when are we going to see you on when are we going to see your comedy central h1 yeah exactly no we're gonna see your vh1 hour yeah when are you gonna be on tnt let me know dry bar is where it's at guys dry but the dry bar is great dry bar is where it's at guys dry but dry bar is great dry bar is great it's the future of stand-up uh if you want to check out uh brian bates as a dry bar yep it's special dry bar is great dry bars got huge clips yeah i mean a lot of people see it i mean now people are doing internet stuff they're doing youtube they're you know we had mark norman uh sam real joe list a lot of people were putting out stuff on youtube. I looked up their numbers last night,

all in the millions for their specials. Yeah. I mean, it's tough to get in. Netflix is tough. It's tough to get in there. They have a lot of comics. You kind of build your audience in Netflix, and so you kind of stay in,

and you hopefully do it and keep doing more. Not that they don't add new people, but it is tough. I mean, it's tough to get stuff. And a lot of it's just timing, man. It's like, when do you get in? I was lucky enough to be farther along in comedy to even get a chance to do that half hour. That then led to all this, where it's like, I've got to do more from there. And netflix thing did really good i mean it's everybody watching is the reason i gotta keep doing more you know well that weekend that the stand-ups came out we were in tacoma and immediately you saw a difference in that weekend

yeah yeah that was the first weekend where you're i was i was like oh have y'all heard these jokes yeah i said yes and it was the first time, you know, because now you kind of know. Everybody's asking, should I watch a special? People come and they know. But yeah, it's a crazy time in your career. Because that's all you ever want, man, when you're a comic is like,

you want people to be like, you want them to know who you are. And they're there to see you. And I remember, you know, you saw comics, you saw Burr, Louis C.K., or, you know, any of these big comics. I mean, Chris Rock would go on stage with his notebook and, you know, stuff. And they were having to do their new stuff because people were coming to,

like, they got to have a new act. And so they would always say, well, once I'm done with the special, then I retire that act. And, you know, it's always funny, too, because you always say special then i retire that act and you know it's always funny too because you always say younger comics say that where you're like don't worry about dude like you know you put an album out you're like keep doing this stuff i mean yelled out by clown i did some of that stuff on comedy central because you can the you're you're and your fans that find you at that point like on your cd they know they they're growing with you do they they get in so

early as being a fan of you that they realize like you're like yeah i gotta go like if you had a good if comedy central or netflix said do a special tomorrow you're gonna go put do your album what you just did on your album you're gonna go put on that special yeah and everybody that watched that album they they're those people are comedy fans. They love stand-up comedy, and they're searching out stand-up comedy the way people search out music. I feel like those fans know, because you see it where people are commenting, like, yeah, dude, he got a bigger thing. They know what comics do.

This is how it works i always get it with youtube comments because people like i feel like it's the same act on all these youtube clips like yeah dude because when i was coming up youtube was new so you were putting everything on youtube because you usually were you you know you would hear about the word viral and you're like just trying to make something go viral and so like i mean you have the same jokes just on different different comedy clubs. And so then now people are like, why are all the clips the same? You're like, dude, that was 10 years ago, 15 years ago.

What do you want me to do? I don't even own – I don't have control over those clips. They're all posted by someone else. And they're not like on my YouTube page. Most of my YouTube old stand-up clips are posted from somewhere else like i i would have to ask that person to take them down and then it's it's like you can't you can't just get it taken down you have to be a lot more careful now like now i'm realizing you have to i have to be you have to be so much more careful to your state

your material you just get way more protective over it yeah and you and you have to be, you have to be so much more careful to your state, your material. You just get way more protective over it. Yeah. And you, and you have to be like, are y'all, we're not filming, right? It's not going to go out anywhere because you don't want it to go out

because man, you get to, you know, that's a hard part now about doing a tonight show. It's like, you know, it's five minutes and then it's usually a really good fight. You pick a good five minutes.

And then, so, you know, my tonight show, those jokes are on the Netflix special. And so then people see it and you just want to be like, I want like the next special. You're like, I don't want any of that stuff to be like, it's not on anything. And so then when people watch it, it is zero to 60 minutes of no one's ever seen, unless you went to a live show, nobody has seen any of this material. That's what I want for my next one.

I don't know if it will happen. Tonight's show has me do it again. I'm like, all right, I'll do it. I would love to do tonight's show again. When you put out Full Time Magic, did you still keep doing those jokes in the clubs? I remember I was in Raleigh, Raleigh, North Carolina, Charlie Goodnight, great comedy club,

kind of a famous comedy club comedians love. I think Helium owns it now. And they, I remember being there, and I was asking that weekend, because that's the special that aired the same night as the Mayweather Pacquiao fight. And so I asked people in the audience, I was like, hey, did y'all watch this special? And I remember there, you know, there was like five people that said yes.

So I could do all those jokes. I mean, no one was there to see it. And so it was like, I could do it. I remember wanting to build a new act. I knew I needed to get a new act. I just had an hour special. But that was the thing that was hard with Comedy Central. They

aired the special twice and then I don't know if they ever aired it again. Maybe someone, you could buy it on iTunes right now if you wanted to buy it, but it just sits there. Comedy Central, whatever their

system is, I don't know, but it's like, how do you not? They had everybody, dude. Those Comedy Central presents were enormous. And that's where so many people watch this stuff. Dane Cook, Hedberg. You saw all these. Dane Cook was the one that blew up. Nick Swartzen.

Adam Sandler saw Nick Swartzen's half hour and called him. And now Nick Swartzen works with Adam Sandler. I didn't know that. Yeah, he saw his special and talked to him and was like, man, I loved it. And then that's how their relationship kind of began. That's cool. And so you would see, I remember the Comedy Central Presents, you would see them all.

Everybody got to pick their backdrop, you know, so you got to really decorate your stage. That was a big deal. I was the first year they didn't do that. Because the whole, when you're coming up, you're going, what would you do for your Comedy Central special? You're like, up, you're going, what would you do for your conversation special? You're like, oh, you're going to put a barn door behind you? Yeah.

You know, you're going to decorate. Like Ted Alexandro had a basketball goal on some trash cans, and that was his backdrop. And so I was like, oh, I don't know what I'm going to do. And I remember they just go, we're not doing that anymore. They just go, okay. They just put our names behind it, honestly was better just to have your name sitting uh sitting behind you that was right because you don't get a you don't you're not

in control of editing those specials like at the half hour on common central so right when you get done you i did with me and chelsea peretti taped the same night together and uh right when we got done you walk over and a guy's sitting there and he goes all right let's like we got to edit some of this yeah so he's like rank your jokes like from one to you know whatever to 50 to just to see or one he'll he'd like do your one to ten ranking of jokes that you don't want taken out. And I mean, he asked you right when you walk off. Wow. And I didn't know that. I didn't know that.

I wasn't like prepared that I'm going to get asked that. And so then you have to go over there. He's like, rank your jokes. And you're like, all right. I mean, I like the,

I mean the wife thing, there's the car thing, you know, and you're just sitting there talking about your jokes. You're like, I don't, I don't know. I don't know if I remember.

It's like all just like kind of a blur and you kind of end up just being like just do whatever you just do do do what you're gonna do yeah like you're like uh in breaking bad when he gets shot in the gun he goes do what you're gonna do right before you get hank right hank just do what you're gonna do he's already made his decision 10 seconds ago. So I looked up the first comedy stand-up special on Netflix. You guys want to guess? First comedy stand-up special on Netflix? Yeah. I mean, Segura was very early.

And so, I mean, I would almost say him just because. It was Bill Burr. Oh, wow. You people are all the same. And it's 2012. Wow. Wow. Now, when I look up on Wikipedia, just a list of all the, they have every Netflix special

that came out in the year and everything. Yeah. They didn't even have that one listed. They had the first one. Because I think that was on something else and they bought it. Oh, maybe that's why. Yeah. Yeah. one because i think that was on something else and they bought it oh maybe that's why yeah so that's where because that was a big thing too was you wanted to try to get like milaney has new in town i believe was a comedy central special and then netflix bought it maybe that's the difference

because that's what you'd want to do that's what i want to do with full-time magic i would love if i could ever get it off common central and have it put on netflix but they don't conversation netflix i mean at one point we're not getting along because they were just doing comedy and netflix got such known as a stand-up place that they're just every i mean they're losing all their comics to netflix yeah well according to wikipedia the first uh netflix special was russell peters Peters in October of 2013. And then Aziz Ansari did one like a few weeks later. But then none in 2014.

I don't know why. And then 2015, just a ton. And then by 2017, just so many. Yeah, which I think stand-ups was 2017 is when I did that. Okay. I believe so. Because 17, 19, 21. I think i've done every two years yeah so i don't know why they took a year off assuming wikipedia is right yeah uh yeah i mean who know

they're probably just filling out what the what works what works what happens i mean they've become so big now i mean and you can see that now like i've watched uh the crew with kevin james uh it's great so he's he works at nascar it's a great show and it but it's like an everybody loves raymond type king of queens type kind of sitcom where they're starting to figure that out and like that's going to be where netflix becomes a problem like once they start getting where you're like you're just going to netflix and you're like oh let's watch this you know sitcom like those funny sitcoms are what i think make networks almost like that they're the comedy sitcoms are just really good they have so many documentaries and all that kind of stuff but you gotta you gotta get the casual

like look i'm not trying to be i don't want to be crying at seven o'clock at night watching some sad documentary you're like i want to eat. I want to watch a fun sitcom. Me and Lars are watching The Crew, and The Crew's great. The cast is great. It's very funny. So I feel like they're fluffy. He's got a sitcom on there. So they're starting to get into that multicam,

where they're starting to make those sitcoms. And I think that's just going to make Netflix even just get crazier and crazier. Because then you're going to start getting, you start getting even regular, like people in the middle of the country that we'll always think of that are a little later to Netflix. I mean, I was later to Netflix, like even getting it. I mean, I don't think I had it when I did it. You used to use my password. Yeah.

When I did the standups, I was using Brian's password for Netflix. Didn't even have it. Didn't you do like a meeting with executives at Netflix? Yeah.

You were using my password? Yeah. Yeah. I've been watching everything. We just watched. My email's bbates at channel5.com.

It was like something like that. That was my login. They're like, wow, that's a weird email. I was like, yeah, It was something like that. That was my login. They're like, wow, that's a weird email. I was like, yeah, it's kind of crazy. I like my privacy. We just watched Cobra Kai. It's not a multicam, but it's very good, fun. That was a YouTube show. Yes, the first season was on YouTube Red

and then it went to Netflix, but there's a scene, have you seen it? Where the students, there's a nerdy kid and another kid and they're trying to work together to move this big rock and the nerdy kid says, what we need is a fulcrum. No, really? Which I didn't know what it was except through Aaron.

It's like a stick that lifts the other side, right? I still really don't. Was that the cool kid in the class? No, that was the nerdy kid that said the fulcrum. But there you go. You get mealy beat up by that fulcrum. But there you go. You immediately got beat up by that fulcrum. I think he did. I think the other kid used some karate.

Cobra Kai's great. People love it, right? Yeah, I mean, I loved Karate Kid. If I didn't love Karate Kid, I don't know that I would love Cobra Kai so much. But it was fun. Yeah. So, yeah. So we've talked a little bit about how now a lot of people are putting out their specials on YouTube.

Sam Morrell, Mark Norman, Joe List all did great. Andrew Schultz put his out last year for free for people to see. So that's kind of – I mean, that's a – I mean, Schultz just did Netflix, you know, because – I mean, he was the one that – because he made fun of himself because he said netflix is over and then he's doing a netflix thing but uh that's the you know or do they have live shows on netflix like are or that kind of like weekly you know like john oliver's like weekly michelle wolf's was like that right yes yeah yeah i feel like one if they get that too like that that kind of aspect to it,

I mean, they're going to end up becoming like they are like TV. And then they just – I mean, they're there. But like once they start figuring that kind of stuff out, then you're just – you're the television. Netflix is the word for TV. I think it already is in a lot of ways, man. It is for me. I don't have cable.

Yeah. But you look at other stuff yeah sometimes yeah but i'm mostly living out of netflix yeah yeah just because that just kind of feels like home like your home page almost yeah i like the shows that and they're starting to go back to more of this i think where they release them once a week yeah um i i i love the idea of that i feel like it's more community everybody's in it together yeah as opposed to someone who binges it before i even get up that morning yeah and they've already ruined the whole season for me i like that too i i i and they've done it they're doing that with some shows yeah like yeah the mandalorian i think is like that and i was trying to think of some other ones disney plus great british bake off okay like that all right was trying to think of some other ones. Disney Plus. Great British Bake Off.

Okay. They do it like that. All right. Mandalorian is every week. WandaVision was like that. Yeah. Yeah, like so you make it where, you know, water cooler talk

or people don't really get around, what does he say? Water fountain anymore. Water cooler. Water cooler. Yeah. Is that what

George Costanza says? And they go, we call it a water cooler show. He's like, oh, that's interesting because people don't really talk about

water fountains anymore. When they were pitching the show to NBC? Yeah. Yeah. And then he said something else. Yeah,

I forgot. Yeah. No, yeah, I don't know. All right. Something I don't think about too much.

Yeah. I was trying to think of some unusual stand-up specials that people took a different... yeah i know drew michaels yeah i was about to say yeah uh uh comedian drew michael did a special no audience it was just him talking it was a one-man show and it was on hbo and uh it was uh gerard carmichael who uh worked with me on my pilot but they like he did that i mean it was a very interesting idea i mean you got to look at stuff as like trying like you just try trying to separate yourself yeah yeah and that's about the most way you can get into the

audience yeah uh i i always think sometimes you don't want to get too cute with things. You don't want to get, you know, it's like, do what it is. You know, not saying that he should, he can try that. I mean, try it. Look, if it works, you could be the guy that changes everything. But I, you know, it's like just, I like doing stand-up in the oldest format of the way that I know it as standup comedy. And you go up there and you tell your jokes and then you're like,

all right, there you go. And I think it's a wonderful thing. Yeah. And I kind of stick with that. Maria Baffert's done some fun ones. Yeah. Even before COVID.

Yeah. Like in houses and stuff like that. And she, it fits with her. Yeah. And it's great. Yeah. She did one to her parents.

In their living room, right? Where it's just. But. She did one to her parents. In their living room, right? Where it's just. But in Maria Bamford, you're kind of buying into that world. Uh-huh. So like it's whatever the world is that you're selling. Uh-huh. That's what really works is that kind of thing. Like, you know, you're just like, yeah, I dig.

Maria Bamford's an unbelievable comedian. Mm-hmm. To her parents, man. That's so funny. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

it's, you know, the idea is funny. And then, I mean, she's a, her jokes, she's a great joke writer.

You know, she's very funny. Yeah. She's, she's great. So some of the real quick, just some of the other top specials that both of these mentioned, both of them had,

uh, Chris rock bring the pain is the number two. So I remember they said, uh said with him, with that special, I believe it was that special. So that was the one that set him off, right? Yeah. So I remember, I think it might have been Louis C.K. telling a story or something or someone like that.

So Chris was on SNL, Chris Rock was on SNL, and then he got done and then went on the road. And so no one really saw him. And I don't – I wouldn't say like – I mean, he was on SNL. He's famous, but it's not like he was becoming Chris Rock that he's become. And so Chris goes on – leaves New York and just goes on the road. So no one sees him. And so they don't know where he's at.

And they're like, well, he's not even – he's like on the road. So no one sees him. And so they don't know where he's at. And they're like, well, he's not even, he's like on the road. He's not working or anything, whatever. And then he comes back to New York and does a show and they go watch it. And it's basically, it's bringing the pain is what he, cause,

and they were like, you know, Louie's like, I gotta be different. Like, I mean, he, everybody was like,

I don't know what I'm doing. I always think about that. Like, that's what you want to do. When you like, when I left New York, I was like, when I go, go every time i go back i want the other comics when they watch they go oh okay all right well we gotta go get it together like this is crazy yeah and that's what it was with chris rock would bring the pain like they the other comics watched and he was murdering so hard it was so good and they go oh that's where he's been yeah and it's unreal that's

what he's been up to and you know like you can just tell at that point they could they could they're watching they're like well he's about to leave us like we got our little crew together and he's about to be gone dude like because this dude he's he's going to film this special and it's going to be it's flawless like it's pretty it's pretty crazy. Yeah. You ever see Eddie Murphy's, like, raw, like, him working on that material? No. Because I always wondered that. There's YouTube clips of him at the comic strip doing, like, the ice cream bit. Okay.

And it's pretty interesting to see it because you know it from, you know, I mean, on stage in the red suit. And to see him doing it on a tuesday night and at the comic strip because eddie murphy you felt like if you told me he made all that up i know comics don't make stuff up on the spot if you told me he made that whole special up i would believe it because you just never heard about him i think that was delirious delirious yeah you never heard about him traveling you know i mean i didn't no one i mean if you're like my, you know, Chris Rock and Seinfeld, if you ever hear them talk about it, they would hear him, like they saw him doing spots. But you never, you know, I never heard he was doing spots.

I never heard he was like going to a funny bone. You know, he was at Zany's doing stuff. Like you just never heard that kind of stuff. And so it's pretty neat to see. There's a great comic strip clip. The comedy club in New York called The Comic Strip. If you go on YouTube, they have great clips that are – you can see Ray Romano.

A lot of comics that are just popping in when they're first starting out. And they're just doing a show for 50 people. Yeah, it's cool. And Delirious, both of them have that as the number five best special all time he was 22 when he did that think how crazy that is he's the same he's the phenom in my in my head i know chappelle was very very young but i mean he put that special out that was his first one right yeah 22 years old that's so young and that is an adult special like that's like uh you know a 20-year vet comes up with that special it's so crazy that still you see it in people's

acts today yeah yeah there's a lot of style from it so just real fast some of these uh louis ck shameless that was his big coming out i mean he'd been around for a while but that was one that kind of just so his big thing when he turned uh got big too was like i think i've heard him talk about it where he said uh you know he like had a joke about a dolphin and he just was like what am i doing yeah dolphins and then he kind of went in with the like i hate my kids yeah and then just start talking about and went that route and went in with the like i hate my kids yeah and then you start talking about and went that route and that registered with like so many people that and then then he became he changed it was like a different comment yeah um robin williams even at the met

bill cosby himself that's the dentist joke that's so famous so you some of that if you ever watched the pilot of the cosby show he does his act in that if you ever watched the pilot of The Cosby Show, he does his act in that, which is funny. The pilot of The Cosby Show, we talked about that before. It's one of the best episodes. It's one of the best episodes ever of The Cosby Show.

Most iconic lines. Yeah. In the pilot. Yeah, in the pilot. The first episode. I mean, shows change, dude. Seinfeld was called a different,

it was the Seinfeld Chronicles, and the parents were different i mean they they they changed seinfeld so much after the pilot and for and for the cosby show to be like the most memorable lines are from the first episode that's wild yeah uh dave chapelle killing them softly yeah and then some recent ones that, now this, this was from 2015. So Tennessee Kid, that's probably would have been on here

if it wasn't for that. Kevin Hart, let me explain. That took him from a star to a worldwide superstar, they said. And Patrice O'Neill, Elephant in the Room.

Yeah. Which was originally on Comedy Central. It was 42 minutes because of commercials, but then they re-released it on Netflixflix and it's 77 minutes yeah cool yeah i need to go watch the netflix one yeah i haven't seen that i don't think i have either yeah i don't think i have either yeah yeah like i said i mean patrice patrice would have been fun to be alive right now and see what

he uh did he was a patrice patrice would have been i mean it would have been now and see what he did. He was, Patrice would have been, I mean, it would have been nuts too. Like what he would have just produced and the specials he would have made. Yeah.

It would have been unreal. Yeah. All right. That's it? Yeah. I mean, that's basically it. Yeah.

All right. Well, yeah, we weren't doing much, you know, today. Just pop it in. Just talk a little bit. So we've already, we're already getting emails from people asking about specific jokes in your act so maybe a future episode we could talk some about some of those yeah we're i mean yeah if you

if you want to know anything about uh what i've talked about in my uh in this special the greatest average american uh yeah ask email us hit us up comment whatever you know do what everyone do and uh we're collecting once we get enough we're we're maybe do it so it might be a month or something i don't know when however long it takes people to once we feel like we got enough questions but yeah if you want any questions about any of the stories any of the jokes that i told in this special uh you can you can see it you're you got a little you're in the special yeah and the credits yeah yeah a couple second hit there yeah that whole part's hilarious yeah yeah nick navicky yeah uh so uh yeah definitely let us know that yeah that could be fun to talk about that

uh and then yeah i mean look and then we we did i know we did the voting on instagram about like the march madness the greatest. Everybody that voted in that, thank you for doing that. That was a lot of fun. It's been interesting to see. I mean, some of them got close. Ranch dressing and drive-ins is which is more average American was very close. Very, very close. Drive-ins or drive-throughs? Drive-throughs, I'm sorry. Drive-throughs or ranch ranch dressing which is drive-throughs is an interesting one to think about ranch dressing is very funny to me though as an answer uh and so yeah and uh so yes thank you for

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