The Neighborhood Listen - A Terrible Dream with Alex Song-Xia
Episode Date: May 12, 2026A long contained issue boils over, Joan has a surprising family update, and Doug checks in. Later, they welcome Deborah (Alex Song-Xia), whose terrible vision is causing her distress.Go to&nb...sp;cbbworld.com and sign up for the Maximus plan to unlock this episode and ALL seasons of The Neighborhood Listen ad-free, as well as full length exclusive BONUS ROOM episodes adventuring deeper into Dignity Falls!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Your neighbor.
Good.
In Dignity Falls, you're never alone.
You've got the neighbor half app and us.
Burn.
And Jode.
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We'll cover it all.
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Welcome back to The Neighborhood Listen.
This is the podcast that looks at the neighborhood of Dignity Falls to the eyes of its many residents,
two of whom are seated at reddish.
across from each other right this very second.
One of them is me.
My name is Burtmea Payday.
I'm the pharmacist in chief here in Digny Falls at the Dignity Falls'asy.
Digny Falls' and maybe America's premier pharmacy.
That's how strongly I feel about it.
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah, you've been really saying that a couple times now that it is just the ultimate
pharmacy.
I'm sorry.
Who are you?
Oh, hi.
I'm Joan Pedestrian.
I mean, you knew what.
That was a bit, right?
Okay.
Also, Bert, I'm not going to.
I'm just, I can't ignore it the way that you're starting these podcasts right now.
And I feel like you're trolling me.
You said, Gwelcome.
And it can't be argued.
We can listen to them to the playback.
I don't think Doug can do that.
But you can't tell me you didn't say Gwelcome.
I'm going to push back on that.
Okay.
Because I said, quelcom.
So you are aware that you're doing something.
I was doing a prank.
You were?
Yes.
Oh, I have enough pranks with my boys at home.
Oh, Quelcom.
So you said quelcom.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you.
What, what, what,
So what's the option?
What's the, what's the, what's the, uh, objective of this prank?
Because you're, you're embodying it right now.
Yes.
Why?
Why does that make you happy?
See me unhappy.
I'm, it's just, I didn't realize you were so unhappy.
I am unhappy because if I, I didn't want to be rude, you know, but then it was like,
because you got upset when I would say things like, hey, you just said, welcome or welcome
or gelcomer.
And then you get hurt.
You'd act hurt and I think, well, now I'm the bad guy.
When really, you're doing something on purpose.
Yes.
And here's why is to teach you a lesson.
Oh, no.
Give me a break.
Are you going to a prank explain to me?
What if I had?
Is that a thing?
Now it is.
You made it a thing.
It was a way to show you how you are treating people who are perhaps differently able than you.
I feel like you're making a best explanation as you're going along.
It really feels like that.
No, it was just clearly I've thought about this.
a long time.
Real?
A long time.
How long?
Now,
not like since we've met,
but.
But you've got to be kidding me,
Byrndt?
Since season one.
Since season one?
And I'm not making this up around the spot.
The reason I'm doing it
is because I didn't think
that you were a person
who would judge people in this way.
But I thought, what if she is?
Okay.
Burnt, the fact that this is your choice,
especially.
Your choice to make this point to me when last episode you revealed, to everyone's surprise that you have a twin brother named Tert.
Seriously, we're going to talk about this.
Yes, we are going to talk about this because you also let it slip at the very end.
I have not been able to stop thinking about it.
I Googled turned me a payday.
All that comes up is a skin condition.
And you know, he pronounces it millipede.
Okay.
He doesn't do the traditional.
I was looking for the Mia P-Dayday.
And by the way, it's a, oh, God, do not Google turn to mea-pade.
You really don't want to.
What happens?
The skin condition, you said?
Yeah, a face burns into your skin.
A face?
Oh, somebody else's face burns into your skin?
That's terrifying.
It's painful, first of all.
I've never heard of this condition.
I know.
Well, I'd never heard of your twin brothers.
So go Figg.
Go Figg.
We wish Figg all the best.
Sorry, we've got a campaign going on right now in town for this gentleman named Figg.
His full name is Figmund.
And he is...
His best friend is a C-monster.
And so it's weird.
He's doing a fun run for his imagination fund.
He wants to make the C-monster real.
Yes.
And he thinks that, I don't know, if he raises enough money that we can do that, I'm not sure.
Figman, we support you, but we're not going to help.
Yeah. Go Figg is as far as I'll go.
Yes.
Will everybody say go fig round town?
No one is contributing.
Nope.
He's the only one in the fun run.
What's weird is they spend a lot of money buying the merch because everyone's wearing it.
If they could just give the money directly to him.
But someone created their own merch for it.
It's not going to sit to him at all.
The profits are not going to him.
He is in the red with the merch.
And so it's all going to just pay off making the merch.
Correct.
He's not making a profit.
Oh, no.
What I was saying is there's something.
people who've made their own merch and they're just making their own money off of this.
Guilty.
You made your merch?
What have you made?
I made a, uh, a, uh, a t-shirt that has a fig Newton, um, and, uh, sort of, that has a fig
newton, just a picture of a fig newton.
A picture of a figure of a fig newt.
No, there's an actual fig newt.
So this shirt has an actual fig newton on it.
There's a little cellophane pocket where, we're a, you know, in a pocket tea.
Did you go Newman's own, a Newton or did you just do regular fig newton?
I want a classic fig newton.
You went classic fig Newton.
Yeah.
Have you tried one of those lately?
A fig Newton?
Yeah.
No, I haven't.
They taste like they've been left out for days.
So good.
No matter what.
No matter.
Freshly out of the package.
They are like cardboard.
It's not a cookie.
It's not a cookie.
It isn't.
It's not a cookie.
It's a Newton.
Specifically a fig Newton.
A fig Newton.
Yeah.
So you can't.
Now, I love Newtons across the board.
I mean, of course.
My favorite is fig for sure.
Second is Isaac.
I can't eat Isaac Newton's anymore.
Now, you know, the sad thing is, is of course,
Fig Newton's are square.
Is that, is it, first of all, is that sad?
Oh, yes.
I thought they were rectangular burnt.
It doesn't matter because it's just still a version of a square.
Okay, you don't have to look so disappointed in me.
Okay, I'm now realizing my mistake.
Burnt can't eat square foods.
And I thought that maybe it would make a difference
that it was a longer square, which we call a rectangle usually.
It's not a rectangle.
You don't, you, I mean, they're closer to a square than a rectangle.
Oh, you're angry about the fact that you think figs and dutons are a perfect square.
I'm going to push back.
on that. There's, I'm not saying they're, Joan, I'm not saying they're a perfect square. I never said that.
I defy you to comb through the back catalog of this show and here anytime I said fig nunes are a perfect square.
You're so you, what you're pushing back to my pushing back is that, is that a rectangle is that a rectangle is basically a square to you because it has right angles.
Well, all rectangles are squares, but not a squares are rectangles. Right. Oh, boy, this mind vortex.
I hate that. I hate that statement. It makes my head hurt. That's not true.
Oh, babe, first of all, I'm Joe Pedestrian
and I'm the top realtor here in Digny Falls
and I'm the top local actress.
And here, or not here, rather,
in a different room recording always in a different room
is my husband Doug.
Hey, babe.
So you, now he's got his own pushback.
What's Doug's pushback?
I hate to push back on this.
It doesn't sound like you do.
All squares are rectangles, not all rectangles are squares.
That makes more sense to me.
That makes more sense to me.
All squares are rectangles, not over it.
And all, sorry, I had it reversed.
Wait.
And all of the above are parallelograms.
All of the above.
Okay.
All right.
Hey, babe.
Does anyone need to know that?
It's a bit.
It's a bit of a rectangle, a fig Newton.
But it has small, rounded, beautiful, rounded corners.
Beautiful.
gorgeous.
I'm saying if you saw something like a hanger.
If you saw a finitin.
It's like a hanger.
Laying nude and unprotected on a table.
A nude Newton?
Fign Newton.
Nudtun.
Nudtons.
A fig newtton.
Yes.
I think your mind would go to square before it would go to rectangle.
What are you laughing at, Doug?
I heard you snorted me.
I suppose so.
Where are you anyway?
Yeah, where are you?
Giggling.
Where are you?
Co-check.
Coachette.
Really?
Is it busy there today?
How did you never think of that before?
Yeah, how many people we got coming in today?
Not a lot of people wear coats, but now I'm hoping people do.
Do you mean across the board
Not a lot of people wear coats?
Seems like when they're going out of rash.
Or the people that are coming into the house
aren't wearing a lot of coats.
People coming in the house, I guess.
I don't know a coach.
Please say I guess.
Because I'd love for you to know exactly
if we're talking about people coming into the house
or people in general.
I can't speak for people and, you know, across the world.
Okay.
So then just say that.
So then what you're talking about
is the people who come into the house.
Okay.
The people who come into the house are not wearing...
Are you saying this is a sort of trend
that people were wearing fewer coats than they used to?
I hadn't noticed that.
It might be that we are...
Coaches less often, I suppose, not fewer coats.
You usually just wear one.
Normally I wear the three.
But now I'm down to one.
We used to be a three coat town.
We were a three coat town.
We were proud of it.
We were proud of it.
We would sneer people only had one or two coats.
Yes.
It was a sign of wealth and well-being.
Health and well-being.
That hits your eyes as healthy.
It became a problem when, you know...
Okay, Doug.
I could tell that that...
That was a little dig at me.
I missed it.
It really wasn't.
What was the dig?
You two are feisty today.
I said that a fig Newton hits your eyes a square more than it does as a rectangle.
If you were to see a nude, a fig nudeton on the table.
How would you even know what that was?
I would eat it.
I would eat it before I could even pin my eyes.
It would just be a dollop of like fig jam.
How would you even be able to recognize?
Oh, we have different ideas obviously about what a fig nude tin is.
With a towel.
Oh, what is a fig nude tint to you?
You would.
Yes, I would.
I would look like a threat.
I was squishy with a towel.
I don't, I don't, um, harbor any bugs in my house.
I will not tolerate it.
You will not be a bug landlord.
Despite, I know.
Do you think a nude fig Newton would have a fig leaf over its genitalia?
Oh, boy.
First of all, I have no idea why you're gendering this, this Newton all, already.
I didn't.
Because we haven't even got, you said his.
It's.
He said, it's.
Okay, fine, you got me there.
Please tell me what you think a nude tin is.
Just a, uh, Fig Newton, all the way.
by itself.
Oh, that doesn't make sense.
That doesn't make sense.
You said nude.
I've never been alone in a cafe and gone.
I'm nude today at the cafe.
That doesn't apply to people.
Just inanimate cookies.
Okay, great.
Here's the thing.
If you had a grilled cheese sandwich.
Okay.
And you, which I wish I could eat.
I know, I know.
If it's not, if it's cut diagonally.
Say out of my vision.
out of your vision.
Yes, I can eat it.
What?
I never knew that I never knew this stipulation.
It's the only one it applies to.
What?
This girl cheese sandwiches, yeah.
Okay, well, here's what I was going to bring up.
Someone, you can tell.
Please explain how you can tell.
Because if you know it was square.
Because I'm sorry.
The body keeps the score.
Oh my God.
And if you serve me.
Don't name a trauma book written by a Dutch man that has nothing to do with trauma.
Don't you name a trauma book written by a Dutch man?
What I was going to tell you,
is that someone just found online a parent hack,
which is to take the circular top of a peanut butter jar
and it exactly perfectly cuts the crust off of your sandwich.
And it makes a square sandwich circular,
basically makes an uncrustable.
You know what those are, right?
How big is this peanut butter jar?
Any basic peanut butter.
Well, sometimes we're making a little sandwich.
Like a general medium-sized one.
I think small.
I can, listen.
The video.
Listen.
Now look who's doing it.
That was by accident.
I'll never believe that, Joe.
Oh, gosh.
Just listen.
Springstein.
But it got your attention, didn't it?
Bruce, it did.
It did get my adventure.
That's what you go to.
Bruce Springstein.
Oh, my God.
Good day, you're Springstein.
It's Sprongstein.
You are born to Ronja.
Okay.
What is happening today?
I'm just telling you, this might be an amazing discovery for you, Burnt.
not as big as the fact that you have a twin brother,
which we're not, I'm not going to ignore it.
But you just, you cut the, it's a perfect circle
that just barely takes off the crust and it makes it circle.
I push back on it just barely takes off the crust.
I feel there's a lot.
So much pushback today.
Something's in the air.
I know.
But, okay, so we're getting back to the brother.
So you have a brother named Ternt.
Yes.
And he lives where again?
He lives in New Bar.
He lives in Newborn yet right next door to us.
That's right.
The neighboring town over.
Yes.
Where they speak sort of like their Dracula,
sort of like they're from Maine.
That's their accent. Yes.
A combination of Transylvania and Maine.
So do you talk to you on the phone?
Does he have the accent?
I have not spoken to him yet.
Oh, okay.
We've just been texting.
Okay.
We've exchanged phone numbers.
We've been texting.
All right.
We're planning on meeting up.
Well, you are?
Yes.
That's also big news.
When are you going to meet up?
We have not set the date yet.
We're trying to, we're comparing calendars and trying to figure it out.
Comparing calendars.
And how did you discover you were twins?
Why did that bear repeating?
Well, because I feel like I want to know more about it is why.
Like what is he got going on?
What does he do for a living?
Well, you know, he's a farmer.
Yes.
Yes.
And he has a podcast.
I know he has a podcast.
Yes.
Yes.
It's called Not Only Farmers only.
Every serves.
I think it was not only farmers.
Not only farmers?
That sounds better.
Well, look, you only talked to him once.
So you're going to have to go back and ask more questions for me.
Yes, I will.
I will.
I will.
Are we going to have them on the podcast eventually?
I guess that's up to you guys.
I mean, what do you think, babe?
I don't really care that much.
Babe, you don't care that for this many years that we have known Burt
and he has talked about being an only child for so long.
Yes, because I thought for the last time I was.
And also really came hard at me last week because I'm not an only child saying I couldn't
speak to it at all because I did not know.
I stand by that.
Okay.
How do you stand by that?
Because you kept a secret from us.
And that's, you know, and I'm, I'm going to.
Glad that you shared it.
Not for that long.
I lived as an only child for...
I understand that.
That's fair.
It's fair that you're...
Oh, thank you.
Well, you kept it for the entirety of the podcast.
I don't think that you should have come...
I don't think you should have come at me so hard because you knew you were carrying a
secret.
Now, why don't you care so much about it, babe?
I don't know.
It didn't seem to matter that much to burn, so.
Is that true?
You know, with guys like in friends, like even your best friend, you just don't even
really ask them any questions?
Guys like in friends the show or you mean just general, general life friends.
General life friends.
Yeah.
But that would include the guys on the friends from show.
Fair enough.
Yeah, they were great friends.
So what about guy friends?
They sure were.
I believed it.
Constantly asking each other questions.
You oftentimes just don't know anything about the other one.
Boy, you know that is true.
Except that you have a good time together.
I am realizing that.
You know what?
That's pretty true, Doug.
I will watch the twins.
All we need to know about each other?
We have a good time.
I have watched the twins sit with their friends and they don't even say anything.
And then they just stare at each other and all of a sudden they start laughing like someone
said something hilarious.
And it's very disturbing.
Yeah.
Whereas Julyope, my daughter brings girls home and they never stop talking.
How is Julyope?
Where is she right now?
She's not in Australia anymore.
Okay.
She's not making earrings from stolen pill capsules.
Great.
Great.
Two good things right in a row.
And she's moved back home, which I'm, I don't know.
I'm like happy slash unhappy about it.
How are you?
I have all the children under my roof.
I haven't seen.
What did you make that face for?
Well, because I haven't seen her here.
When did she move back home?
This is new.
She moved back home this morning.
This morning.
Yes.
It just happened.
It sure is.
Was this a surprise?
Did you know this was coming?
Well, she kept on, it was weird on her Instagram.
She kept typing, something is coming.
And I was like, oh, I thought she was going on out.
She got a job.
And she was like, no, that's for you, mom.
You were supposed to put together that's a clue.
She's a huge Swifty, right?
So she was trying to do like all sorts of,
I don't understand all that Taylor Swift, like, I guess she showed up in a, in a color dress that was the same color theme as her new album and everyone was freaking out. I don't understand that stuff.
Again, that's something that's not for me.
People were freaking out about that.
They were freaking out.
They were.
Even Doug confirms it.
July for you.
She was trying to do, she was trying to do something like that.
But I was like, oh, honey, I don't, you know, I'm not looking for clues anywhere.
And so, yeah, she showed up on the doorstep.
And she was like, surprise.
And she was shocked that I hadn't figured it out.
That was this morning.
They hadn't pieced it together, yes.
Yeah.
So right now I'm scrambling because I turned her room into my playbill collection room.
And it is, you cannot even get in.
It is just.
Yeah, because they're not on display.
They're just stacked up.
They're stacked up.
Yes.
And it kind of looks like the town in Wally.
You know, just piles and piles of paper, dusty paper.
Do you not remember that movie?
I don't remember that.
Oh, it was a wonderful movie.
Give me the three things that you think you remember.
remember from Wally. I remember a lot from Wally. Oh, you do? But you don't remember that. I don't remember the
paper steps. How there's just nothing but trash on the planet. Now, we've talked about Wally before because
we have. I'm trying to remember the musical that he watches over and over again. Oh, yes, of course.
Hello Dolly. And it's Hello Dolly. And it's a hello dolly. And it's some reason I thought it was
singing in the rain. Maybe because I wished he was watching that instead. Why? I'd just like it more than
Hello Dolly. How many times do you've seen Hello Dolly? Once. Yeah, it's not enough. You'd appreciate it more now.
I also don't know if I've seen it.
That's what I really...
I think I must have seen it when I was a kid.
I feel like I could tell that even as you said once.
He was watching...
It was Hello Dolly with the Barbara Streisand?
Yes, I say Barbara Streisand, and I think so does she, but...
Well, that's the Streisand effect.
Yes, it is.
There it is right there.
Sorry.
Sorry. Was that Sean Connery saying Strysand?
No.
Oh, that's not good to do.
I don't like that.
Yeah, let's not do that.
Springsteen was funnier.
Yeah.
You will experience the darkness on the edge of town.
You're right, it's fun.
So she has no place to stay right now.
But so she's in a hotel.
She's moving back home, but right now she's at a hotel.
Yeah, I said, I can't deal with it, babe.
I just really, I...
Because that one room was unavailable?
Yes, because we have three rooms under construction.
Doug's working on the coat room.
The boys are in two separate rooms,
and we're housing two of their other friends right now.
Who?
Bub and conk.
Bub and conk?
Bub and conk.
Wow.
Okay.
Wait.
What?
They didn't used to be in the grocery boys, did they?
Allegedly.
Okay.
You can't prove it.
I'm trying to do a scared straight situation with them.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
How's that going?
What are your methods?
I kind of like it because it's just, I'm playing a role.
Do you know what I mean?
Of course.
I get in a uniform.
I kick their door down in the morning.
I scream in their faces.
One by one?
Are they all in separate roofs?
Yes.
Certainly the third guy would say, uh-oh.
No, it's just Bub and Conc, but they're in, they have a Jack and Jill.
Oh, you're only trying to scare them straight?
Oh, yeah.
I've already tried it with my boys.
They don't care.
They don't care.
Well, I'm hoping that they'll learn by example.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm hoping that they'll watch them transform and make something of themselves.
Right.
I'm talking, when I talk about my boys, I'm talking about my twin boys, Matt and.
Robert the Impaler.
Robert the Impaler.
Yeah.
So there's just, right now I was just said to July
I can't. I just can't. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
When you're just like, I can't. I can't. I just can't.
And I said, you're going to be happier anyways.
It's so loud here right now.
And now you'll be in a hotel room and you can, you know,
just get some rest. And we'll talk about what we're going to do with her,
I don't know, on the weekend or something. I'll figure something out.
Okay. This explains something because I'm in Julyope's
close friends on Instagram.
Really?
You are?
Yeah.
What does that mean?
Close friends.
How do you determine
if you're a close friend on Instagram?
Somebody puts you in their close friends category and you get the green, you know, bubble.
I don't know this at all.
I guess I don't have any close friends on Instagram.
Never seen that before.
Green Star, well, I don't know what that is.
Sorry about that.
Okay.
Is this like, am I the only one?
Am I the only one?
I assumed you.
Am I the only one?
The only one what?
Am I nude on Instagram?
Do you understand what I'm asking?
Are you the only person on Instagram?
The only one without a friend, without a good friend.
Well, I mean, either you put people in that category,
they put you in that category.
I didn't know who's supposed to be doing that.
And it's close friends, not good friends.
And you don't have to do it.
And so what's the use of it?
What's it for?
I think the use is when you want to say something
that's not for the public consumption of everybody,
but just people you actually maybe know.
Okay, so then you're seeing posts from a July IP that I am not is what you're telling me.
Because she hasn't good friended me.
Yeah, I guess I am.
I didn't realize that.
Okay, so then why does this make sense?
What has she been posting or sending you or DMing you?
This is weird.
My mom's acting like a real bee.
What?
Are you serious?
And what do you say, Bert?
Well, I don't respond to that.
I'm not going to get mixed up in that.
You don't defend me?
I don't know what I can't.
I love how that's an answer.
Well, I don't want to get mixed up in it.
Yes, you do.
Yes, you do.
You say, don't say that about your mom.
She loves you.
I can't be sure what the B stands for, Joan.
Oh, give me a break.
Then why didn't you want to get involved?
Why didn't you ask for clarity?
Because it's not of my business.
It is your business because I am your friend.
I'm your good friend.
Where's my green star?
You and she...
The star is white, to be fair.
It's a green circle.
Oh, my God.
You're confusing me.
I don't mean to confuse.
Do you have good friends on Instagram, Doug?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, Tony Hill's got to be on there.
Oh, of course.
Yeah.
Mutuals.
So anything else other than the fact that she called me a B and you said nothing.
She said it every day for a while now.
What?
You came down on her pretty hard.
It was definitely time for you to intervene.
My goodness.
And let me know.
But it's a family issue.
I can't get mixed up in that.
You're in my house more often than she is.
July P got a tattoo.
Oh,
and it's of the same mole that Taylor Swift has.
And Joan came down on her pretty hard.
Well, it's infected.
She didn't take care of it.
God. So it looks like an infected mole.
It almost looks like a, like a turned me a payday. I'll tell you what.
What do you mean?
It almost looks like it has a face on it because the infection has gotten so bad.
Did you forget?
Yes, I forgot that you turned my brother's name into an effect.
I didn't.
Some scientist did take it up with a dermatologist.
It's not my fault.
I will not.
I didn't do that.
I will not talk to a dermatologist.
I never have and I never will.
Why is that?
Oh, it's a scam.
Your skin.
It's fine.
It's not burnt.
What are you talking about?
You think I can't see my skin?
There's three things I want you to get checked immediately.
That one mole looks like a skyscraper.
Thank you.
It's not a compliment.
It's several moles that are joining together.
That sounds like a problem.
Joining together.
What are you going to say first?
I honestly don't remember.
It's feminine overdrive.
I could not tell you.
That's too bad.
I couldn't tell you what I said two seconds ago, two minutes ago, two years ago.
unless it was a line and a play.
What did you say?
Two years ago.
Two years ago.
Two years ago, I said,
and coffee and waking up.
That's what I said two years ago.
I played Emily Webb in Ourtown.
They flipped it ages.
And she wants coffee and she wants waking up.
She misses the smell of coffee and waking up because she's dead now.
Oh, right.
I always forget that that's part of it.
How do you forget?
It's like the whole thing.
I hate that play.
Oh, it's about our human nature.
It's timeless.
What is the stage manager doing there?
Get out of here.
I've talked about this before, right?
You're supposed to be backstage.
He's the narrator, but it's also very, you know,
find a narrator in there.
Because he's setting the stage.
He's the stage manager and the narrator.
He's letting us know we're seeing a play, we're seeing a play.
Here's what I want to say to Our Town.
Okay, go ahead.
Hourtown, I hope you're listening.
I'll come back when you're ready.
Beloved's classic play.
Someone's about to read you for filth.
I'll come back when you're ready.
That's what you're.
say. I'll come back when you're ready. What does that mean?
That means if I'm sitting down, I get ready to watch a play. Sure. I have my playbill.
Maybe I'm thinking about the gin and tonic I'll have at the interval.
And a guy comes out at the beginning of the play and says he's the stage manager. I say, I'll
come back when you're ready. But here's the thing. Does everybody on this planet know what a stage
manager means? No. It was new to a lot of people that phrase. And I think it's,
immediately hooked them in. It shouldn't have been introduced to them. I think what bothered you is that
there's no props and there's no furniture and there's nothing. I'll go back when you're ready. And also,
when we did that at Digny Falls Playhouse, we tried to do that too. You would go get a drink at an
mission and the bartender would just mime handing you a glass and stir it. A lot of people were
into it. They like drank their fake drinks, but you can't give into the magic of theater.
No. There's the magic of theater and then there's the, you know, this is as far as I got.
Well, Thornton Wilder, I hope you're listening that...
I hope you're listening in hell.
Don't mind.
That is too much.
That is too much.
I hope he's in hell.
I think it's unequivocally beloved as a piece.
I think you're really on the wrong side of history on this.
Do either of you have a jacket on or a coat?
Why are you asking, Doug?
Because I'd like to check it.
I want to test some things.
Are you that desperate?
Test some things.
Like what?
Well, there's kind of a conveyor belt.
Oh, no, you're not doing like a dry cleaning thing.
Yeah, like, and I have a...
How many?
That's, you're never going to get that.
He just wanted to, he loves that because he says it's a roller coaster for clothes and he loves it.
He loves it on the clothes behalf?
He's even got a loop-de-loop going.
I wouldn't like that.
It has to travel at a lot of high speed.
What if my scar falls out of my pocket?
And I have the VIP coat hanger.
Which is what?
Kind of like, you know, when you go to like a club or something and they park like the nicest cars out front.
Okay.
Is that what they do?
Didn't know.
Well, they do it at the Digny Falls.
Soho House for sure.
Oh, yeah.
they have some great Ford foundations in the front.
Which is not, it's not at all anything to write home about, you know, as opposed to like the other places.
They're like, please take pictures in here.
Right.
Because no one's aware of it.
But so it's like, it's just presented.
So people are like, wow, that guy's coat.
So you just got a coat that you find.
I don't know if I've ever been in a situation where I've checked a coat and saw somebody else's coat hanging up there and went, wow.
I aspire to that.
Could you put my coat out of sight?
I'm embarrassed.
I don't have a coat that would make it in the VIP section.
I don't think that I got on me.
But I have this raincoat.
I got this because the boys wanted it.
It's that subway thing.
It's the pickle coat.
You know what I'm talking about?
I'm going to say, no, I don't.
Really?
Subway thing, the pickle coat.
It's an actual coat with see-through plastic lining
and inside is actual pickles in pickle juice.
Please don't be mad.
Listen, remember last year when I told you,
when I told you that blue diamond was coming out with a cherry slushy almond?
And you didn't believe me.
And then Doug looked it up and it was worse than we could ever imagine.
I think I didn't believe.
This is real.
Yes, I didn't believe because I couldn't understand why that would happen.
Okay.
I couldn't write my mind around.
I still can't.
I understand.
And I could be wrong that it's connected to subway,
but I know it's a thing that they're selling now.
But it can't be real pickles.
It has to be.
Real pickles.
Oh,
KFC.
Oh, that's, you know, known for their secret.
Some way I would have gotten it.
Some way I could see.
All the secret ingredients they put on their pickles at KFC.
The herbs and spices.
Oh, they're sliced pickles.
Well, that's what I assumed.
I thought they were full whole pickles.
I was assuming whole kosher.
Oh, like, I guess look.
That would be such a bulky coat.
Now that I look at them, they're all just sliced.
You're right.
That'll be such a bulky coat.
I guess so.
Wouldn't be that much less bulky if they're sliced.
I mean, it's so obnoxious.
I'm not supporting the coat in any way.
But I do have to say, I do have to say it is demonstrably less bulky if it's sliced.
Okay, but I have to know, Bay, what do you think?
You love it, right?
He's mesmerized.
I love it.
I've never seen anything like that.
It has two sort of drainage spouts.
Yeah, that's so upsetting.
So you can empty it.
No one wants to go with a drainage spout.
So you can empty it.
You don't have to.
You can leave it in there forever.
But it looks like if you use those spouts,
It would just drain all the pickle juice
and then you just have loose.
Lymphs pickles.
Loose sliced pickles in there.
They all fall in the bottom of the coat.
Well, but I think they have separate compartments all along, right?
You know how like a...
Yeah, they're like ribbed.
This shouldn't be happening.
Why?
Well, I mean...
This is where we're at now.
We've done everything else.
Now, now what do you think of our town, huh?
We've done everything else.
Now what do you think of our town, burnt?
I hate it.
It sounds so bad, does it?
It does. It still does.
Okay, fine.
Have we been talking long enough, babe?
Yeah.
An immediate response.
We'll be right back with the neighbor listener returns.
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And the notes for this
Now it is a year
Out of date
But what you do is
All you have to do is take one look
at a 2026 calendar
And then when you're using this
Deskplotter
Calendar set
you just mentally go forward a day.
I think that's how it works.
So if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, okay, okay. So, if June, I, I don't know what day, June 6th is this year. Let me, let me, uh, okay, um, if it's, um, if it's June 6th, uh, in 2026th, then you say, uh, oh no, okay, okay, okay, so let's say, let's say last year,
was a Friday.
And then you say it's 2026.
Now it's on a Saturday because the days move...
Is that how it works?
The days move forward one at a time?
I mean all at once, but you...
But you...
Was there a leap year?
I don't recall if there was a leap year.
There was not a leap year.
So, okay.
So then yes, you just go forth...
So for each time that you look at,
at it, you say, it's actually, it's a day later than I think.
And it's just that simple.
And as a reminder, you can still use the cute little post-its and the notes for this.
It's free.
Quen, welcome back to the neighborhood.
Listen.
Okay.
Now, but this time I know you did it up purpose.
So I'm not going to.
What was that at HW?
Quend, yeah.
H-Wend and a D at the end.
Yeah.
Okay.
Fun.
Wait, was it?
Just then it was.
It doesn't matter.
Just then.
It didn't.
wind.
We are back with a guest right here at the Kitchen Island.
Now, what we do, folks, every week we come the neighbor have the social networking
application for neighborhoods.
We look for interesting neighbors to talk to, people that maybe they want to amplify their
story.
Maybe they want to ask a question.
Maybe they have something to answer for.
And if you see a post, you think we should talk about, why don't you screenshot it and send
it to us at burnt and Joan at gmail.com like Kristen Rudy.
Kristen Rudy, thank you for alerting us to this post.
this comes from Deborah this is in the crime and safety section
Deborah writes did something happen to the Dignity Falls Hospital
I just had a terrible dream oh my yes
very dramatic and here to tell us about this dream is Deborah Deborah
welcome to the neighborhood listen hi no I'm sorry you're here to I'm here to be
confronted by you right for what I wrote for what I did what no wait not necessarily
I mean why would you think sorry why would you think that I don't I
I didn't seem like there was anything else to think.
Really?
Nothing else to think that would be confronting you.
It seemed like the logical conclusion to be invited here is to be confronted.
I'm guessing this dream has you spooked.
Yes.
Not more spooked than any other day, but definitely spooked.
Also, sorry for the way I'm dressed.
There was a coat check, but I wasn't wearing a coat, so I just gave what I had.
You felt compelled to give him something.
You shouldn't have let her give you her.
I mean, yeah, because now.
What is this exactly?
You're just in a slip and I feel bad.
That's my outdoor dress.
That's what I wear to go outside.
Oh, all right.
So is that kind of like a moo-moo or like a...
Yeah, you know, like a housecoat.
Yeah, like a housecoat.
It's the opposite of a moo-moo actually.
I guess so.
I guess it is.
Most people wear those inside.
I don't know.
That's true.
I guess that's on me.
They are indoor outdoor, though.
A lot of clothes are indoor outdoor.
So I just keep this ticket.
I keep this ticket to...
Yeah, hold that until the end.
You don't have to...
Don't worry about it.
Don't lose that ticket.
I don't have a pocket on my slip.
You lose that ticket.
Oh, no.
What were they having a pocket with a slip with pockets for the ladies?
I just say it's refreshing to see someone wear a slip.
I'm, it's so old-fashioned.
I love a slip.
This is cool.
This dress, I guess it's supposed to drag behind you because it has like outdoor wheels on it.
Oh, what?
I thought you were supposed to put it away.
It has wheels on it like along the back like on a like a train.
Oh, I'll put it away.
I just, I am allowed to.
The train of like a dress and then there's wheels.
Yeah, for outdoors.
So it doesn't get muddy and stuff.
Okay.
I'm assuming.
There's other ways to keep it not muddy.
I mean, you could just make it not as long.
But there's wheels on it.
That is what it's for.
I didn't know the rules of co-check that you're allowed to play with it for a bit.
Yeah.
If you read the, if you read the back of the ticket, it says I'm allowed to play with it.
It does say that.
I can go through the pockets.
You put a side up saying you're allowed to play with people's clothes?
Just to protect us from any, you know, liability.
No, let me guess.
You're putting it on and doing like a little accent and a little character.
I know you are.
Do you are you doing that?
That's all on the ticket.
It is handwritten on the ticket, but it does say that.
You handwrite the tickets.
My gosh.
It's going to take you forever.
It's a little personal touch.
All right.
Well, I'm sorry about that.
Can we ask you about your.
dream. Okay. And why did you think you were, you were going to be confronted? I just, I, that,
that was the first time I've posted on the app. Right. Wow. I, I'm, I was scared to make an
account for a long time because I assume everybody's mad at me on there and talking about me.
Why? Why would you think that? I don't know. Um, am I, am I wrong? No, Deborah, you're not,
you are wrong, but you're not wrong in that. I understand that feeling. I'm a little wary of social media,
myself. I have a sense sometimes that everyone's mad at me. And a lot of times here on my podcast,
people are. But that's sort of bled into the rest of my life. But I also wonder, Burt,
if her dream has something to do with also why she's thinking, we're going to be mad at you.
Does it have anything to do with that? I feel like a lot of ideas were put forward and I tried
my best to follow along. I'm sure you did great. Sometimes I asked too many questions. I'm really
sorry about that. That's a fair note. Thank you for that. No, no, I would never note you. I would never
come to your home and note you. It's absolutely okay. You can know me. I'm an actress. I'm used to
getting notes. Trust me. I might not agree with them, but I try to listen. So let's just start
simply. Tell us what your dream is. Okay. It was pretty bad. So, you know, the Dignity Falls
Hospital? Yes. Right. I woke up and I had just had a dream that they ran out of printer paper for all
the visitor badges and and I woke up in a sweat and I was like I have to download the the neighbor app
neighborhood app and and then I'll post about it and then hopefully somebody can tell me that that
didn't actually happen but right after I posted I was like oh oh god now now everybody's going to be
mad at me if that didn't actually happen um okay to recap your terrible dream about the dignity
Falls Hospital was that they ran out of a printer paper and wouldn't be able to print up
enough visitor badges.
And you thought that if you posted about that, everybody would be mad that that didn't
happen?
Well, you thought you would cause a panic.
I guess if it hadn't happened, then everybody would be mad that I had caused a panic.
And if I, if it had happened, then maybe I had caused it with my dream and and, and, or if I,
you caused it with your dream.
Yeah.
Explain that.
How, how, what, what made you worry about that?
Well, because after I was panicking about, oh, maybe it didn't happen and I worried everybody for no reason, I found myself hoping that it had happened.
And that's not very good.
Just so that your dream would not be false?
Yes.
Oh, I see.
I didn't know if there was a precedent for you having another dream about something and then you had made it happen.
That leads me to my next question.
Okay.
Which is, have you had a situation in your life where at least once something you dreamed came
true.
Yes.
One day when I was very young, I dreamt that my whole family had left.
And then when I woke up, it was true.
Oh, no.
What?
Your whole family?
How old were you a little kid?
But then they came back.
They went to church without me that morning.
Oh, good heavens.
Okay, okay.
You can understand why we thought you meant something else.
I see.
Okay.
It was a
It was just very unlucky timing
is what we're talking about.
Those few minutes, I woke up,
the service was already done
so they were back within a few minutes,
but I was just those few minutes
were really, really torturous.
Thank goodness they came back so soon.
Okay, so do you, how old are you now?
I'm 33 years old.
Okay, and can I ask what you do for living
here in Damie Falls?
I work remotely.
Oh, you do?
Okay.
for a company.
That does.
Nothing bad.
Deborah, I have to say that does sound.
That's the response.
That kind of sounds a little suspicious.
I have to agree.
Could you elaborate anymore?
I'm thinking about quitting.
Okay.
Why is that?
Because I'm not positive.
It's nothing bad.
Oh, dear.
Okay.
What do you do at this place?
I do customer service, but only, like, typing, like chatting.
Like not on the phone.
You're the online assistant.
Got it.
Yeah.
Yes.
Now, what are some of the typical complaints you receive if you want to keep it vague?
The product was not effective enough.
Okay.
Could be so many things.
Not effective enough.
Enough.
So it's somewhat effective, just not as much as people would like.
That's what I try to respond.
Well, you'd be good at this job, Bert.
Are you looking?
Because you had a good instinct.
I might quit and then I could refer you.
No, I already have a job, but thank you very much.
Can you give us a hint as to what the product might be?
What category?
It's almost effective.
Is this medicine?
Is it a kitchen appliance?
It's kind of the opposite of medicine.
Oh, this is what I was worried about.
Poison?
It's not poison.
The only thing worse was saying it's not not poison.
Like poison is a slow is a slower.
Oh,
Anyways. Oh no.
Not slower.
A slower.
A slower.
Faster than poison.
Is this?
I might quit though.
Okay.
I mean, I might agree with you that you should.
Rather than feeling complaints from murderers all day.
I didn't say.
No, you didn't.
Because it's not that effect.
It's somewhat affected.
Oh,
Well, now it's upsetting to hear about what is the person who has ingested this and is not effective enough.
What has that leave that person?
That's concerning.
Well, that's why I think it's murderers.
I think they're trying to kill people.
It's what it sounds like.
But it's faster than poison.
It's fast than poison.
So then what do they mean that there, could you expand on their, it's not effective enough?
No one's ingesting anything.
Okay.
I guess what I would argue with effectiveness is that it's, it's human error that's, well, I guess it would depend on what you'd,
define how you define error.
Just so,
just so you know, Debrain, this is so you won't
feel confronted. We
pledge that we will not ask you
directly what the company is and what the
product is. No, you can confront
me. I should be held accountable.
That's what this is, right?
No, again, this is just a podcast
where we talk about,
we get to know our neighbors better.
Oh.
Okay. So I'll
be judged by a jury of my peers
your audience.
Should it come to that?
I can't speak to if our listeners are going to judge you or not.
But we are here just ask questions.
Usually what we're trying to do is help someone amplify their message.
Now, in this case, I'm not quite sure what the message is.
Let's go back really quickly because I very much want to know more about this mystery product.
But did anyone reply to your post about your dream?
Like to answer you about what was going on with the hospitals?
I haven't opened the absence.
You haven't.
I was scared.
You asked a question.
Let me double check.
You asked the question.
Did anything?
happen. I had a terrible dream about the hospital. I did ask a question, yeah. I guess I didn't want to know
the answer. Oh, okay. Did you, so you didn't even do any investigation. You didn't like call
the hospital and say, how are you fixed for printer? So I am at fault because I didn't follow up.
I could have called the hospital. I could have done something. I think that you're more worried
about being at fault for a fictional dream than you are about hawking products that kill people.
Absolutely. I think you could let yourself off the hook for this dream. Yeah. I think you're
getting to work up about that. Yeah. Because you have no. We can.
control our dreams.
Exactly.
We can't control our dreams.
Unless you get into that lucid dreaming that people say they do.
Yes, but then what is actually, what are you really doing then?
I mean, it's still just a brain trick.
You're saying like, I feel like flying now and then you fly.
Right, but how does that affect anyone in real life?
Well, I guess if you're Freddy Kruger.
Not again.
Babe, what did you say you love you said dreaming?
You did his voice on the episode recently and it was horrifying.
I forgot about that.
It was all too accurate.
If she's sleepwalking while dreaming, maybe they,
Yeah.
This could be at fault.
I really relate to Freddie Kruger.
Oh, how so?
I think that's a tricky phrase.
It sure is.
That's a tricky turn of phrase.
Oh, what, that I relate to Freddie Krueger?
Yeah, that's the one.
That's the one.
I like that as Freddie, not Fred.
Oh, it's not Fred.
It's just Fred Krueger.
Are you less upset by Fred?
This is Fred Kruger.
Fred Krueger.
It sounds like your friend's dad.
Freddy's kind of, you know, fun.
I don't take the vote.
I'll take that down to Fred Kruger,
see what he has to say about it.
Okay, so how do you relate to Freddie Kruger?
Just what if, what if that's me, you know?
What if that's me?
What do you mean?
Like, what if that's me?
You know what you watch?
You're worried that you're worried that you're
appearing in other people's dreams and killing them?
Yeah.
You're worrying that a bunch of children are going to burn you alive?
Like, you know, when you watch a movie and there's a bad guy
and you're like, what if that's me?
I don't know that I've had that particular sensation.
No, no.
Has this happened with other movies?
Almost every movie.
Almost every movie.
What if it's a good movie where there's no bad guys?
Okay, name one.
Yeah, I'm interested too.
The movie with no bad guys.
Marvin's Room.
How does that one go?
It's just Diane Keaton and Merrill Streep going through,
one's going through a divorce,
one's going through cancer,
and Leonardo DiCaprio is the son.
And they just talk about life.
I say the bad guys.
There's no better.
And I'm like, well, what if I'm the cancer?
Now, come on.
That doesn't make sense.
Not like the other things did, but that really doesn't make sense.
I'm glad I used that example because we're really good.
Thank you.
Absolutely.
Began as a play.
Look it up.
I'm good.
And so you, when you see Freddie Kruger on screen and you say, what if that's me?
Do you think, oh no, what if I am murdering people in their dreams?
Mm-hmm.
That's what you're thinking?
I think that.
I think, like, what if, what if I understand him too much?
Do you feel like you have empathy for Freddie Kruger in the movies?
Is empathy like when you're like, I understand everything he's thinking?
Or would that be sympathy?
Is sympathy the one where you've had the same experiences, you've had the same feelings?
I feel like they're so similar.
It gets very hard to actually determine it.
I always thought of empathy as a thing where you understand the human condition.
That's right.
You might not agree with it, but you can empathize with it.
You can see somebody going through a hard time and saying, I understand.
Yes.
I get it.
But you don't feel bad.
Sympathies when you feel bad.
I mean, maybe that's a good sort of crude way of describing it, I suppose.
I don't think empathy is just like, I get it, but I dismiss it.
But I think people use that word when they're trying to even talk about someone.
I feel nothing, but I understand it.
I don't care, but I get it.
But I think people do use empathize,
what it's not necessarily something they understand or agree with.
That's the thing.
Yes, that's right.
I feel like I'm really sorry.
I'm sorry, Deborah, we're getting a little bit off topic.
But this matters because you had a question about the word empathy,
and we're trying to figure out how it relates to you and Freddie Kruger.
Yeah.
So.
Well, an EMP grenade disables electronics.
Emp.
That's true.
Oh, an EMP grenade.
That's the thing we learn from video games.
Yes.
Yes.
That's not the same thing I don't think, babe.
Empathy is that stand for empathy grenade?
Empathy is the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.
Okay.
Share the feelings.
Share the feelings.
Hey, share the feelings.
Don't bogart those feelings.
All right.
And then we're going to look up sympathy for the devil.
No.
No, babe.
We're going to leave it at just the word.
No, we're just going to try to keep on track here.
feelings of pity and sorrow for someone else's misfortune.
Uh-huh, yes.
The formal expression of pity or sorrow for someone else.
So that's sort of saying like, I can't relate to that, but I feel bad for you.
Yes.
This is why you buy sympathy cards when someone dies.
Yes.
So which would you say?
Do you sympathize with Freddie Kruger or empathize with him?
I don't feel bad for him.
I just understand.
That's empathy, yes.
And what part do you understand?
What is it? Did something similar happen to you in your childhood or what is it that you identify with?
I haven't happened to me. I just understand the feeling of like, you know, he just, he wanted to be friends with the kids, but they didn't want to be friends with him.
Oh, I don't know that that was a very generous read. I think that's a very generous read on Freddie Kruger.
Did I not understand the movie? I don't think that you did. You may have skimmed the explanation of why he came to be.
Or if you saw like a five-minute recap, maybe. Something like.
Okay. Well, how would you sum it up in two sentences?
A man who is accused of being a child predator is burned alive, then comes back to kill people in their dreams.
The end?
Yeah, you didn't even need the second sentence.
Okay. Well, I guess I understand feeling wronged.
Sure.
Can you share that? Is there something?
Was he wronged?
He was a bad guy before he got burned, correct?
Yes.
I think that might be the part that Deppers missing.
Yeah, he was already a bad guy.
He was the quintessential bad guy.
Doesn't he have scissor hands too?
He has razors, razor fingers.
He has blades for hands.
I think it's too confusing to say scissorser hands
because that's a different movie.
A boy who's not bad.
His hands were literally scissors.
They were literally scissors.
Freddie had like a glove.
Yeah, that's what it is.
So he could take that off if he wants to.
You know what?
He could.
If he wants to.
A better life.
You could check it here.
He could check his hat.
He sure couldn't.
You get to play with it for a minute.
which you absolutely would.
Okay, I guess how I, Deborah,
differ from Freddie Krueger
is that I, we're both bad,
but I, Deborah, try to not do the bad thing.
Like, maybe I'll be like, oh, I feel like Freddy does,
but I won't do the predating.
And, and, but so I understand what came before.
And, uh, why do you feel bad?
Why do you feel that you're a bad person?
I need a personal moment from your life
that makes you identify with them.
What is it that you recognized?
Well, you saw, you saw my post.
You had a dream.
Yeah.
It can't be just that.
But your dream was one of concern.
You were concerned about the hospital.
Yeah.
Because you felt people were not going to be able to visit their loved ones.
Yeah.
And then my reaction to waking up was that I hope it happened for real.
That's pretty bad.
Oh, you did hope it happened.
But I thought you said you hoped it happened just so people wouldn't be mad about you.
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
So that's not what Freddie Cougar does.
That's not at all close.
Because you don't think it would be.
this, okay.
You don't think it would be good
if the hospital ran out of printer paper.
No.
Okay.
Okay. Yes.
And you thought if you talk about this dream
and it doesn't come true,
people would then be mad at you.
You don't think their first thing
would be relief that it hadn't happened.
Yeah.
Why would they be so mad?
Yeah.
This is the part I don't get.
Can you tell us a little bit about your childhood?
Did you have a good childhood or a lot of friends?
It was a great childhood.
Anything stick out.
And again, I'm just going to, I'm not a therapist.
But, you know, a lot of times on this show,
we ask about, just for clarification.
Neither is, Doug.
How do you want to answer that?
Certainly not.
Okay.
But I do find that.
So you have a therapist.
Yeah.
Okay.
She's on maternity leave.
Okay.
Well, we wish her all the best.
And congratulations.
Have you discussed this stuff with her in therapy?
No, she's been on maternity leave for a few years now.
Well, that's not a thing.
Well, not in this country.
but in Sweden I think you can go back to work when they're 18.
You just send them into work.
They finally get a job, then you can go back to work.
So what I mean is is there anything sometimes on the podcast,
we have guests that I just say,
is there anything that sticks out to you in your childhood,
something that was a horrible moment or a,
not because I don't want to hear it,
but not because I want to hear it,
but because it might lead to an answer.
as to why you're feeling this way now.
I mean, did you have dreams like this when you were a kid?
Did someone get mad at you for telling a lie?
Something like that?
I guess it's a, when I think about my childhood,
it's a lot of like, oh, I thought something really bad had happened
and it was entirely my fault.
But then a few minutes later, everything was fine.
How often would you say that happened?
Well, how often, like, every day?
This is an incredibly stressful way to live.
Can you give us, we've already gotten the,
the church without you example.
Can you give us an example of something bad that happened that was your fault?
Oh, okay.
Well, I guess my mom always said that my little sister was born because I seemed too lonely.
So I guess her existence is my fault.
Oh, I would never say that as something negative, you know.
Also, it's heavy to put that on a child.
Yeah, but you're saying you created this thought.
No one else told you that?
Well, I guess I didn't really think that as so much as it was told to me.
Yes.
You said your mother told you that.
Yes.
Okay.
I see what you're saying.
She shouldn't have said that to her.
She shouldn't.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I agree with that.
No, it's my fault.
But it's not your fault.
It's not, how could you have made that happen?
That's what it.
Trust me, you couldn't.
Okay.
Now, when you say okay like that, are you really taking this in or are you just trying to move the conversation along?
are you mad?
No.
No, we're not mad.
I think this is what I'm trying to look for.
Was there a time?
What's the worst time when someone did get mad at you?
Because it has to have happened.
Usually you would not be afraid someone's mad at you
unless someone actually wasn't.
It was so terrible that you never wanted to experience that again.
I guess people do get mad, but it's usually not when I think they were mad.
It's when I think they were mad and they were like, I wasn't.
And then, but my behavior.
after causes an actual problem.
Oh, can you give us an example of that how your behavior causes the problem?
I'm so sorry, we're just trying to understand.
So you go up to somebody and say, I think you're mad at me.
And they say, no, I'm not mad at you.
And then you do something.
Well, I guess I don't necessarily go up to them and say, I think you're mad at me.
I just, I stopped talking to them.
And then maybe later, or they'll try to contact me and say I wasn't mad.
But then I've stopped talking to them.
Because you would assume that they were mad.
Why didn't you believe them, though, when they say, I'm not mad at you?
What is the part of your brain that can't accept that as truth?
Do you think we'll get to an answer today?
You know, Deborah, that's a fair question.
No, I'm sorry.
I don't mean to, we can keep going.
I just don't know if we'll get to where you want us to get to.
I mean, it's a lot.
There's so much.
to hunt back here.
This is obviously something that's deep within you for a long time.
I don't know if we're going to crack the code today.
Well, just because we're not really dealing in specifics, you know.
Like I still haven't really nailed down anything.
We did promise we'd never ask.
The product.
The product.
I don't feel that bad about my job.
It's just I'm so burnt out over there.
That's all.
So that's why you want to quit.
Not because of a moral.
No, I'm just burnt out.
And how long have you had this job?
Since August.
Okay.
So not quite a year.
Do you get out much?
Do you have friends you would consider good friends?
I do I make new friends and then I and then.
Well, how old is an old friend?
Oh, I think that's confused.
That was confusing.
We should have just let her keep going.
You know, the last time I went out was to see our town.
No way!
I really love our town.
Oh, you do?
Well, explain to Burton why you love Howard Town.
Maybe she'll be able to explain it to you.
Okay.
And then I'll go.
It's like the rules of society are kind of made up.
Like, I don't relate to these people, but they're telling me what their rules of society are.
Now that is the first time I've ever heard anyone say that about our time.
And so I'm like, okay, they care about this stuff.
That the rules of society are different.
from yours.
It's really just about life and death and love.
Yeah.
But that's not your world.
Well, just the specifics of their world.
I'm like, I don't relate to any of that stuff.
Now, I saw a production of Our Town that was, you know,
lights up the whole time.
Everybody's just in their, you know, street clothes.
And then at the very end, there's this little kitchen.
And then these people in period clothes and they're baking bread.
And you can smell the bread baking.
and there's an actual stove there.
It's like a real set.
Oh, wow.
And I thought, why wasn't this the whole play?
Because, Bert, they have the ability to do this?
She's dead.
And so at first, everything is just, is minimalist, right?
And then when she goes back into the memory, the siege manager lets her go back and have a morning.
Oh, that's nice of him.
And that's why.
But it's to show us it's a mirror to nature and to humanity.
Burd, don't you see?
All of a sudden, all the smells come back in.
It's as if you're getting to go,
it's Kate Winsla getting to back
coming back onto the Titanic when she dies.
And we're supposed to, the what?
Oh.
And we're supposed to believe this is the afterlife.
Now you can remember smells.
Thanks.
And this is the whole point is that no one,
if you remember, no one looks at her.
She tries to talk to her mom.
She's like, Mama.
And she says everyone's rushing so fast.
No one's looking at each other.
Let's actually look at each other and enjoy each other.
It's beautiful.
Mama, don't you see me?
I'm wearing a-
I'm sorry.
I'm wearing Adida sweatpants.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Why did you see the beauty of this bird?
Deborah, did you share this?
We'll talk about this.
Deborah, did you share this dream with anyone besides
this very vague post on neighbor app?
No, but I guess now, now you both and your listeners.
Drink some fireball, babe.
I'm back.
I just, I finished crying into a towel.
Now, okay, so you, you, how do you feel now knowing that the dream did not come true and that everything was fine and that you don't have to worry about this anymore?
I guess it was never about the dream and I regret having posted.
Why is that?
Why do you regret it?
Because of coming on here, do you regret coming on here?
No, it's lovely to meet you.
Is it?
Just can't tell.
Do you understand?
And we're not mad at you?
I,
can you feel that?
What do you want me to say?
No, it's not.
Deborah.
Deborah.
I don't know that I've never met anyone so afraid of people and interaction and saying things.
We're not, we're not looking for any specific answer.
We just want you, we just want you to feel okay.
Okay.
Um, uh, I don't know.
I don't know what else to say or do.
Have you?
Am I worrying you?
Is there anything I can do to help?
No, see.
I feel like you're going to say whatever you think we want you to say.
And I'm trying to get you out of that cycle because then I would consider that a win, you know.
Because you haven't really had, I mean, the closest you've had to one of these dreams coming true is you thought your parents had abandoned you.
And then for a few minutes.
And then you realize, no, they were just a church without you.
Anything.
Well, one day I, I, okay, sorry.
No, go, whatever you were going to say.
Okay.
There was one day where I had a dream that the sun disappeared.
And then the next day did happen to be a solar eclipse.
So that was pretty crazy.
You had the most unlucky timing with dreams.
But that was like one time out of all the nights I've been asleep.
Wait, so you've only had three dreams so far?
Like those?
The three?
The hospital one?
I don't write them down.
So I'm trying to remember.
Okay.
But that one you felt sort of came true.
Yeah, that was just like, that's crazy.
It sounds like you were able to realize, though, I didn't do that.
It wasn't because of me.
That's science that just happened on its own, right?
Have you ever had one of these dreams, and you did tell someone and they did get mad at you?
No.
See, this is what I was trying to find out.
I don't think there's any precedent for anyone getting mad at her, so I'm just trying to figure out where it's coming from.
But this is always your fear.
Yes.
It sounds like from the beginning of her life.
It really does.
And I just want to free you of that because that has got to be, no wonder you're exhausted.
It's an exhausting way to live thinking everyone's mad at you.
Yeah.
That's a terrible person.
I will say the times that someone has told me they are mad at me, I think they're wrong.
Okay.
Wait, I'm sorry.
Say that again.
So you have a fear that people are going to be mad at you, but when they actually have said, I'm mad at you, you think they're mistaken.
They have no right to be mad.
But they're not actually mad.
I feel like twice we've asked you if someone's ever been mad at you.
So you can't remember.
No, no, no, as a result of the dreams.
Oh, no, I meant in life.
They've been mad, but not the times where I've been worried someone was not.
I get it.
Can you tell us a specific example when someone was mad at you?
Yes.
Sorry, I guess I've dismissed them from my memory because I didn't think it mattered.
Why would you want to hold on to that?
Because you were just not culpable.
Exactly.
I guess, yeah, people have been mad at me for where I work.
But I think they're wrong.
What are the, okay, what are the types of things?
How do they express?
this? You know, I've had close friends who I no longer talk to because they're like, oh,
Deborah, why do you work for, I won't say the company, but selling, I won't say the products,
especially when it results in, I won't say what it results in. Although we do know, we do kind of
know what it results in. Yeah. Or at least what it's supposed to. Yeah. Okay. And they'll say,
I don't know if I can continue to be friends with you, if you are contributing to that in,
in our world.
Right.
But you think they're wrong.
I think they're wrong and I stopped talking to them.
Okay.
I think I know it.
And again, you are not.
Your fault with the company why you might want to quit is not because of what they do or
sell.
It's because you're burned out.
Yeah.
The hours are great.
I just,
how did you get burnt out?
I don't know.
Maybe it's not aligned with what I want to do.
I've been watching a lot of Instagram reels.
Oh.
Oh.
And sometimes burnout is when you're not aligned.
Oh, sure.
That's what Instagram told you.
That's what Instagram said.
I've been hearing that a lot.
If you're not aligned, you're probably going to burn out.
Yep.
And if you could do anything other than work for this mysterious,
that's a great question.
Potentially lethal company, what would it be?
I think I would want to work in theater, but like behind the scenes.
Like to be a stage manager.
Yeah.
That would be amazing.
But not the actor who's playing the stage manager.
No, no, of course not.
That's too controversial.
That would be amazing, though.
You know, I could bring.
you in? I could let you meet everybody.
You know, Jones a big wig at the Digny Falls community playoffs.
I am. I am.
Wow. I couldn't ask you to do that.
No. We need more crew members.
It's always hard to get more crew members. Everyone wants to be on stage.
No one wants to be backstained. That's true.
Do you have any black clothing?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, look, that's a plus.
Yes, she's halfway there.
I have a lot of clickboards and binders.
Good.
How about colored tape?
Oh, yeah.
I have like a little ring of colored tape.
Oh, my gosh.
Why do you have that?
I've just always had it.
Is any of that tape GITD?
No, I don't know what that means.
No, slow in the dark.
Oh, wow.
That's some industry talk.
They call it glow tape, really, in theater.
Burns is what they call it.
Okay.
Well, she's not.
not in the theater, so I thought I would maybe make it simple.
I feel like glow tape is simpler.
Then GITD?
Yes.
But then it's a conversation starter.
I don't know what that means.
Glow in the dark.
Only four letters.
Now you understand what it is, and we're talking.
We're having fun, no doubt.
Babe, what did you think the product is?
I know you're dying to say it.
I can say it.
I guess you two made the play.
I didn't make a pledge.
You didn't pledge anything.
Is true.
Are you okay, Deborah, if he makes a guess?
Sure.
You okay if the Cochek guy makes a guess?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is it brain-eating amoeba?
Oh, that's a good guess.
Ah, what a good way to not answer.
Terrible thing to hear.
Indeed.
It's not a brain-eating amoeba, but good guess.
Good guess.
So having this, okay, you have a lot of clipboards.
You have a lot of binders.
Yeah.
You have a key ring of color tapes.
Have you ever been backstage at a theater?
No, never.
What made you want to do it?
Seeing Our Town?
Yeah, I think so.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Do you like people, do you like telling people how many minutes there are until something happens?
I don't have a lot of experience in it, but I, but I am always aware of how many minutes there are.
Okay, but that's helpful.
I will say that, you know, if you're experiencing burnout, the decision.
They do a lot of work and it's a lot of, you know, long hours, but maybe that's not the issue.
It's being aligned, right? And maybe you'll be aligned with stage work. Being aligned really helps
you avoid burnout. It sure does. Yeah. That's what I keep hearing. Yeah. On all those reels.
Yeah, it does seem like stage managing is pretty thankless, huh? Well, I mean, yes, I do think that there's
generally a clash between the stage manager and the actors. That's what the program is for.
Oh, for the thank yous.
Yeah, but you don't get to have like 23 characters.
And that's it.
So it's just law and order.
Thanks to Bob.
I stage manage the law and order.
Do you know how at the end of the play,
when they gesture to, you know, the people in the booth and the conductor,
I think that you just keep pointing all over the place to everybody,
wherever the crew is.
That's fun.
Well, you know, a lot of people these days bring the crew out on stage for about.
Do they really?
I didn't know that.
That's nice.
It depends, especially when it's a very tech-heavy show.
Oh, wow.
I don't want that.
I was part of the way.
You don't want to be on stage.
That's fine.
You don't have to be.
You don't have to be.
You can just be in the shadows dressed in black.
Can you refuse if they bring the crew out on stage?
Can you say, not me?
I'm not going out there.
I believe you can.
Yes.
Can't be.
It's a different union.
Can't be forced.
Different union.
I thought stage managers were in equity.
Do not.
Oh, yes.
Stage manager might be a different thing, but the crew members, it depends on the theater.
are their own union in some theaters.
It depends on the theater, folks.
It really does.
Is this fun to hear all this theater talk?
It seems like it.
Are you asking the audience or me?
I'm looking at you and asking you.
I like it.
I learned what table work is.
What's table work?
It's when you work at the table.
You know what?
Ask an answer.
It's a wonderful process where all the actors talk about
what they think the dialogue means.
And then they say the word piggyback a lot,
as in piggybacking on what you said.
Oh, no.
Get me out of there.
And it does always feel like everyone's trying to win tablework.
You know, they're trying to come up with the best answer for what the plays about.
And it's different than being up on your feet.
It's definitely different than being up on your feet.
Let's put it up on your feet.
Let's do tablework.
You look at the text.
You go to the text.
Here's what I would do a tablework, okay?
Everybody goes around and they say their thing.
I'm not saying anything.
I'm sitting like this.
I'm lean back in my chair, arms folded, right?
And then I wait, wait, wait, wait,
until somebody says, well, what do you think, burnt?
And I say, you're all full of ship.
And I stand up and walk out.
That would be so refreshing, burnt.
It really would.
Honestly, I wish someone would.
I wish someone would.
Do you think you would be able to go to the next rehearsal after that?
Or that would just be your exit?
Oh, I guess I'd guess I'd everybody the next day.
I said, what are you talking about?
Why would I say that?
And you'd stay because you're the only guy that can sing.
That's right.
Straight presenting.
So I feel like the theater has been calling you for quite a long time.
Yes.
Wow.
This is where your real sort of supernatural gift comes in.
Is that you've been preparing for working in the theater and not even realizing it this whole time.
Because you could be bad there and that's just part of the process.
Like a bad person?
Yeah.
That's part of theater.
And just be prepared if you decide to go to theater, someone will be mad at you at some point for something.
That will happen.
Fans.
Fans will be mad at you.
Have fans been mad at you?
Oh, sure.
Yeah, I had to call out because I was in the hospital.
I had sepsis.
And they came to my hospital room to complain.
Why weren't you there on stage?
Show must go on.
Wow.
Did that make you feel loved?
Could feel anything.
at that time.
Would that make you
feel loved, Deborah,
if somebody did that to you?
I don't, well, it's just that
they wanted your
performance so badly
that they came to you with anger
in their heart to express
their love for you.
They did have flowers and get well soon cards,
but with that message in the card.
That's fair.
But the soon, underneath had an asterisk.
And it said,
already not soon enough.
It was very, very.
rude. It was very rude.
Which show was that?
Oh, that was
Dance the Vampires.
Which was a musical
famously on Broadway.
Right. And famously
not, didn't do well.
But we tried to reimagine
it. And you call it dance pyres, right?
Yes, we tried to smush it together.
Dance pyres. It was very dance heavy.
We did. We had
everybody up in dancing. We were teaching the dance.
Come on,
Everybody, let's do the dance pyre.
This was on Broadway, a thousand seat house.
No, this was at the Dimmie Falls Playhouse.
They didn't do that.
This was a reimagining of the dance of the vampires.
It's called dance pyres, yeah.
Yeah, he had umpires in it.
We did.
That was his idea.
He was like, you know what you should do?
Should have umpires as well.
And we're set in the umpire stapled.
And anytime someone would bite someone, he yells,
strike!
Was there still vampire stuff?
There sure was.
I just said people bit, people got bit on the neck.
And if all the blood was drained, then the vampire would go,
Here out of there!
Yes, it was, it was, it was, it was, um, it followed the actual real time of a baseball game.
So it was a very long, there were, there were three intermissions.
Yes.
There was branding all over the stage.
There was a seven-thin-byte.
You know what I mean?
You could bet on it.
So if I was already working at the theater,
maybe I could have sold concessions, walked around.
Yeah, now that would have you being out in front of people.
And you said you didn't want to do that.
But yes, you could.
You could do concessions.
We're talking about something totally different now.
Sure.
Right.
But I think only that show had the walk around concessions where people had the little
Betty Booboop trees, as we call them.
because we don't know what that's all we know how to refer to them
cigars cigarettes like my recording station
yes exactly that's how Doug manages to keep it mobile
he has everything on a cigarette station tray
Betty Boop style um I think what we should do
is you should come to the theater I'll show you around
I'll introduce you to everybody
show you the ropes as it were there are there are
And you can actual rope.
And you can actual pull little or
does it come from or does it come from the Navy?
That sounds more like a Navy thing.
I do have a lot of experience with ropes.
How so?
I've said, I've said too much.
Does it have to do with the job?
Can you give us just a little hint of what you've done with ropes?
Okay, you guessed it.
Poison rope?
Poison rope.
Yep.
Yeah.
They're probably going to,
fire mace because I've talked about it now on a on a podcast.
I don't know that you have.
I mean, did I guess it?
What are we talking about here?
It involves rope.
I work customer service for poison ropes.
And so when people are complaining.
What's the poison ropes?
What is the chief complaint of poison ropes?
It's not effective enough.
She already told you.
This is the idea that people, they climb the ropes and the poison gets in like that or do you just
tie people up or?
I guess the, the, the company.
was founded on the idea that, hey, you want to strangle, you want to use ropes for something,
perhaps strangling, but you're not so strong.
So, so the poison part is kind of like a backup.
A backup.
Okay.
Okay.
If you're not strong enough to strangle them, I don't know that you're strong enough to
keep them in place long enough.
That's the complaint.
is that this poison rope is not wearing fast enough to get it away.
But yeah.
So I guess it could be a product error,
but if you were strong enough,
then it would be effective.
But then you wouldn't need the poison.
Right.
That is rude.
I was imagining climbing a rope and then
seeping in your hands.
I was too.
I was thinking a tug-of-war.
Again, a tug-a-war.
Deadly.
Oh, you could do mass murder.
Kill so many people.
Let them do the work.
I don't like either.
They're the ones pulling.
Good violent scenario.
That's a good.
I hope those guys are happy.
For three listeners who want more violent scenarios.
We got three requests for more final scenarios.
Okay.
Sick.
They probably use your product.
Well, so the other thing about the product is that the poison.
Oh, she's going to tell us more.
The poison can't be that strong through.
It's supposed to absorb through skin, but it can't be that potent because then administering
the rope you would also die.
That's a good point.
I mean, you should have to wear gloves.
Do you tell people to wear a gloves?
Well, that's not, that's not something we sell.
So we could tell people that, but that's up to them.
Seems like it would be an easy accessory to sell.
It does seem like they should have also got in the glove business.
Like the socks needed a trampoline park.
It's kind of like a separate factory.
You could sell a bundle.
I see.
So people have probably died using this product themselves.
I don't know.
I don't hear from them.
Good point.
Good point.
Yeah, probably not a lot of dead people right in to complain.
Boy, if dead people can complain.
And they probably kept their plan secret so no one else could complain.
True.
Good point.
True.
Good point.
Thank you.
Well, thank you for sharing that with us.
I do hope you get fired because I don't think you should be working for this company anymore.
I think you should just quit the point.
Yeah.
Quit.
I don't feel.
Get out ahead of it.
Okay.
And quit.
And come to the theater.
I'm going to keep working.
Okay.
I'm going to keep working there until I decide to quit.
I mean, you know, there's a wisdom in that.
Fair enough, I guess.
A couple more paychecks.
I think you should.
Your last act there probably should be calling the police and saying there's a business
that sells.
I mean, you might have a severe pay cut going to work in theater.
Could I ask?
Is it too weird to ask what do you make a week?
You're doing this?
I make $400 a week.
Oh, okay.
You'll still lose money, but it'll be fine.
Deborah, I got to say, that's not a lot of money.
It's really, really not.
Everything that's bad about this.
I would assume you're making.
I like my coworkers.
But you work remotely.
How do you know this?
Are you guys just in a slack?
We chat on the slack.
Oh, you do.
You do.
We do bits on the slack.
But that you're not afraid of.
You're not afraid of doing bits on the slack and having people mad at you.
Yeah.
Can you give us one bit you do on the slack?
But wait, I want to hear.
What's different about Slack?
You said, I guess I feel confident in my place of work.
Isn't that interesting?
All right.
Go ahead.
Sorry, Bert.
Can you give us an example of what you and the gang get up to on the Slack?
Yeah.
We come up with different.
pitches for what could be poison
besides rope. Oh, that's
fun? Like what kind?
What's the list?
A snake.
Sure, absolutely. Built in.
Shul lace.
Sure. Okay.
Like a really limp
piece of celery.
You're sort of staying around
the rope idea.
Oh. I guess I didn't even
think it could be something else.
It could be anything, I guess.
It sure could.
What do you guys think?
A bicycle.
A bicycle.
A poison bicycle.
A poison bicycle.
It's on the seat or the handlebars.
Everything.
That's the whole thing.
I got to tell my co-workers that it.
I'll give you credit.
No, you don't have to give you credit.
That's fine.
That's very nice.
That could be yours.
All right.
We wish you well.
We really do.
And I think you should get out of this job as quickly as possible.
Yes.
would say apply for a job at the Digny Falls Playhouse.
Okay.
And then as soon as you get a position there, you should absolutely quit the murder rope factory.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
I would work for free at the theater.
You basically will.
Okay.
That's mostly any theater.
How do you hope to sustain yourself?
I guess I have to keep both jobs then.
No, no, no.
Listen, we'll figure something out, okay?
Just get out of that job, come to the theater.
It's going to be great.
I'm sorry.
I should ask, do you know if the hospital's okay?
Okay.
I have not heard anything.
Babe, can you check up on the hospital?
Can you go to the hospital cam?
We have a live hospital cam.
I want you call them.
We do have a live hospital.
Yeah, I can call them right now.
Well, turn up the audio with a live hospital cat.
Yeah, for sure.
I don't know.
I would suggest calling after we have a live cam.
Yeah, it's in the hospital.
It's not, you know, just outside.
It's in there.
I need an update on a baby Jane's go.
No, hon.
You can't visit.
Sorry.
No.
There's no printer paper.
Wait, what?
We had a cyber attack.
Oh, no, Deborah.
Oh, my goodness.
Deborah.
Oh, no.
Whoa.
That's crazy.
Your dream came true today.
Are you happy or not?
I don't know.
I don't know what these feelings are.
Oh, dear.
I can't find my coat check slip.
Oh, it's okay.
Babe, just give her back her coat.
No, I should just walk home like this.
That's too bad.
It's so annoying when people are like that.
I meant that.
I meant that sympathetically.
That is too bad.
I feel bad for you.
Not empathetically.
I'm going to walk home like this.
No.
No, you don't have to walk home in your slip.
I'm going to go.
Go get your coat.
Doug will give it to you.
I don't want to.
It's donated to the show.
You can have the wheels.
No.
We don't need the wheels for the podcast.
You're going to go get it back.
Okay.
Promise me you're going to go get it back.
What's that?
That's my little bell.
That's his little bell.
We need a crash card over here.
Oh, let's turn off the hospital live, Cam.
I don't want to see that.
I don't want to see it.
Right line.
Somebody just yelled flatline at the end.
What if there was a visitor who could have helped?
Oh, no.
I don't think that's likely.
So try not to feel too bad about it, okay?
I bet that was not a paper-related death.
No, I'm sure it wasn't.
All right, well, Debra, thank you so much for joining us.
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
Don't be sorry.
That's a first.
We've never had somebody
apologized for being here before.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Some of them should have too.
For sure.
Yeah. I, I, I, you're a sweet, you're a sweet kid.
And I, I, I, I, I, I, I literally three.
I know, but it's a kid to me.
And you work at a, it's a kid to me.
It's a kid to me.
For a poison rope company.
So, uh, I think that's generous of you, Joan.
Okay.
Um, but yeah, get, get out of that job as quickly as you can.
Please do.
Get yourself to the theater.
Get backstage.
You know, I think you'd have a much better time.
You'd feel better about yourself.
The security and long-time knowledge that you'll always have work in the theater.
Yeah.
And as we do grant for a lot of our guests who have in similar situations,
we're going to give you a 20-minute head start before we call the police.
Okay.
I can.
Yeah, Doug.
Bring her coat up.
Yeah, I grease up the wheels for you.
Yeah, I agree step the wheels for you.
That should help you.
That's nice.
Good as new.
Okay.
I'll just, I'll let you know where I'll be in 20 minutes.
Oh, I mean, you don't have to.
You don't have to.
Just come to theater at some point.
Once everything is cleared.
Yeah.
Okay.
If you don't, if you don't, if you're not taking to jail, come to the theater.
We'll be right back with you.
We'll be right back with a late.
Brothers returns.
Hey, this is Ramon.
Prop, decorative, large wooden axe, a chat decorativa.
Five bucks.
Sturdy wooden handle with a large black blade.
So you can take a look at it.
It is big, y'all.
I want to be very clear.
This is a prop.
It's a prop.
You use it for a show.
You do not use it to commit an axe murder.
Five bucks for props.
I know, I know what it looks like.
You may not commit an ax murder with this.
Thank you.
Land, welcome back to the neighborhood listen.
Not land burnt.
Oh my gosh.
Now you're just doing it.
Now we know it's a joke.
Okay, fine.
That was funny.
It's fine.
You really don't like it.
You really don't like it.
I'm learning to be more okay with it because now I'm realizing, okay, it's on purpose.
Well, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Are you mad at me?
See, now I feel like Deborah.
I'm not mad at you.
Okay.
I'm really worried about her.
I'm goofing around.
Yeah, she's got, I mean.
What a mysterious person.
I want to be worried about her, but I also feel like she's willingly.
working at a poisoned rope factory.
She is.
And doing customer service.
I know.
Like trying to help.
It's just the word customer service for that kind of a
of a business doesn't sound even
appropriate. I think it's bold. They have
one at all. I think it should be a direct line
to the police station. I agree.
They wouldn't do anything. I do feel bad
that for asking her too many questions.
It's an interview.
Thank you, Mark. Thank you for that.
Yeah. That's why.
That's what it is. Did she get out okay?
Did you give her her co-babe? She did.
Yeah. You should see that thing go.
you should get one.
A coat with wheels on it?
Yeah, outdoor coat.
Why would I need that?
Well, that's true.
I am always cold.
You should see that thing go.
The wheels are dragging behind you, right?
Yeah, they're not propelling her, are they?
No, but I feel, if you, she really starts running and then kind of lifts her feet a little bit.
I feel like it gets a little bit.
Yeah, for at least a couple inches.
A little parasail for a minute.
Here's what I imagine is that it's little wheels and the things just.
constantly falling over.
It's like in the early days of luggage
when they tried to put like some little tiny wheels
on a regular rectangular suitcase.
No square one.
Okay, all right.
Wow.
A parallelogram shaped suitcase.
Okay.
Let's fight about shapes, guys.
Let's not fight about shapes.
Let's not fight about shapes.
What is this?
Julio Torres.
You know what I mean?
No.
Somebody does.
And that's all that matters.
All right.
Well, we have time for one more post, Joan.
We do.
I have to see the shape of water monster.
Julio Torres?
I don't know.
I didn't know his name.
I don't think he had a name.
Guillermo del Toro, didn't he direct that?
He made it.
He does have a name.
Is he the monster?
No, he's not the monster.
He directed the movie.
I'm asking, did he direct the movie?
But you refer to him as shape of water monster?
The director?
She's, hold on.
Are you thinking of the director, Guillermo del Toro?
Answer the question.
Only if he played the monster.
He didn't.
He did not.
I asked about the monster.
And how did you ask about it again?
If the name you mentioned was the shape of water monster.
Okay.
Believe it or not.
So have you been thinking this whole time that the director of that movie also played the monster?
No, only because Joan suggested that I would have been a fool to think of Guillermo, I can't say.
Del Tour.
Giermel.
Gargamel?
Gargamel?
Maybe hungry for Guillermo apples.
I know it's not seasonal.
We do love to Bob.
I knew what I was asking about, and I know who Del Toro is.
Okay, but you're asking.
So I already knew it wasn't him unless you're telling me.
What were you asking me in your mind?
I didn't recognize the name.
That's all I asked you.
What were you asking me in your mind?
When I said,
Now you have to let him answer, Bert.
You have to let him answer.
I want to make sure my question is clear.
Okay.
Oh, this is like Pierce Morgan.
When I said,
Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish.
Oh, yes. A little bit, a little bit.
When I said the name Julio Torres.
Yes.
And you asked me.
And we were talking about, we were talking about arguing about shapes.
Yes.
Yeah, but that was before, but yes.
That's right.
And you said, who am I?
Julio Torres.
And you said, is that shape of water monster?
Yeah.
What were you asking me when you said that?
Is who is that is the shape of water monster named Julio Torres?
See, I understood that.
Okay.
That's what I understood.
understood him to be asking.
Why was that clear?
Why did you ask who Benicio del Toro?
I was, Benicio del Toro.
How did he get into the discussion?
No one was asking about that.
No one asked about that.
Okay.
I am saying, did you, I understand what you were asking, babe.
And I'm about to blow your mind right now.
A, Guillermo did direct that movie, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Secondly, the man who played the monster, his name is Doug.
Can you wrap your head around that?
Doug Jones.
And guess what he also played?
The guy with the hands and,
Pads Labyrinth and he was also in Hellraiser, which you love in Pans Labyrinth.
Okay, I want to.
And the, the mummy, what's his name from a hocus pocus?
Super great.
Yeah, I can't remember his name.
He was also, he was also on Star Trek.
Star Trek?
Hmm.
First of all, babe.
Are you doing it again?
What?
My mind is shattered into a million pieces.
I thought so.
No, I think, you know, it's a good thing.
When Doug's mind is shattered, it's a good thing.
You did blow my mind.
Yep, I knew what I would.
I guess it would be.
However, I wasn't asking who the actor who played the Shape of Water Monster.
Oh.
I was asking if that was the name of the shape of Water Monster.
Now, as a third party.
As a third party, Joan was thinking, if I may, that you were mixing up the name.
And that's what frustrates me because I wasn't.
This is my time.
Reclaiming my time.
Reclaiming my time.
Reclaiming my time.
I was boosting you up.
Reclaiming my time.
Oh, this could go on forever.
Our listeners don't want this.
So you thought in this movie, the shape of water, that this fish man, his name was
Julio Torres.
This creature doesn't speak.
I don't think it has a name.
Now I need to look it up and have the name.
Reclaiming my time.
Oh, boy.
We're so close.
We can't use that phrase for this.
This is too silly.
I did not think that.
I asked it.
I did not think it.
I asked it.
Therefore you are.
Can you ask it without thinking it?
Well, that's a distinction.
A distinction without a difference.
His brain just shattered again.
It means you did think it.
That's why you asked it.
I thought it may be true, but I wasn't certain.
You thought there was a possibility that the fish man's name was Julio Torres.
Yes.
Now we're getting somewhere.
Even though he never speaks in the entire film.
Have you seen the film?
He's simply referred to as the amphibium man, the creature, or the assets.
So it could be Julio Torres.
No, it'd never be Julio Torres, babe.
It's not, it wasn't, it isn't, and it won't be.
It'd be incredible if he was, though.
If you got about IMDB.
Oh my goodness.
Is that how he sounded?
It's Julio Torres.
Oh, wow.
Here's what I will, this is a confession that I have to make.
I had seen the movie Hellboy, also directed by Guillermo D'Ores, also starring,
did I say De Taurus?
Yes, you should do.
Giermo, Guillermo del Toro.
I wasn't going to say anything, but okay.
The William of the Bull.
Indeed.
And Hellboy features a fishman played by Doug Jones.
Yes.
And so when the shape of water came out, I thought this is a sort of prequel to Hellboy.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, no, no, no.
Nope. It's about a completely different fish man.
With a huge member.
That's what everyone was talking about if you remember that year.
Honestly, I don't remember that.
I know that they had sex.
Yeah, and there was a,
and there were many comments made about it by Sally.
We learned a side language.
We learned a side language.
Yes, Sally Hawkins.
Sally Hawkins, that's right.
I don't recall seeing the, the fishman.
There was just a reference to.
Oh, she was like, and by the way.
Not only is the official.
Julio Torres, really.
Gaiioremo and my del Toro.
Gaii gave me the horn.
I'm just having fun.
You can cut it.
I don't care.
I don't care.
Do you hear me?
I don't care.
Well, people need to look that up,
or do you think they'll get what it means?
I think he's got a couple barnacles on it.
We shouldn't keep going.
going.
Okay.
Barnacles.
Because he's underwater.
Okay.
Here is, here is.
Here is a man with a post.
And I don't know how to feel about it.
Okay.
This is from Matthew.
It says no punctuation.
This sentence just says,
hello ladies.
My name is Matthew.
I'm 55.
I've been single four for 10 years and I can't take it no more.
Nice to meet everybody.
Wow.
Wow.
And I.
That's it.
That's the whole thing.
I've been single for a while and I can't take it no more.
I mean,
that's a,
that's it's,
He's a blues song, you know, and it makes me...
Oh, no, you don't think he's going to attract Irish vampires.
That was more of an Irish jigsong, wasn't it?
Hmm?
Are you talking about sinners?
But they were by the music.
Oh, sure.
I do not think that this man, Matthew, is a vampire.
Or is he's in being attracted to vampires?
You don't think he's in danger of attracting vampires with this blues song?
I don't think he is.
But I really...
We normally never do this.
We normally never knew this.
We never knew it.
We never knew it.
We never knew it.
We never knew it.
Remembering it to do it now.
And the comments are wild.
Because the first one says, I'm also four, single, and I'd like to have a friend.
I'm also four.
It's got to be a typo.
The next time, the next one, the next time someone says,
have you considered?
Nope, it's the number four.
What?
Yes, it's right there.
I'm also four.
But this is from a guy named Omar, so I don't know what's going on.
Omar coming?
Omar.
And Omar says, I'm four single and I'd like to have a friend.
Karen says, he also says I'm four?
No, his name was Omar.
Karen says, have you considered seeking various relationships, not just romantic ones?
Try to build companionship and comrades in various areas, church, civic groups, hobbies,
interest groups, run clubs.
It keeps going.
Joe, did you throw a little sauce on comrades?
I did.
I can't say, because, you know, I still.
I still like to throw a little, what's his name from heated rivalry in, you know?
Oh, sure.
Your asshole.
Holendor, you comrade.
Yeah, that's right.
Hollander, you comrade.
I'm wearing a see-through blouse.
Are you jealous?
Fuck you.
Okay, thank you.
Let me do that.
When a man wears a see-through shirt, there's something weird about it to me.
Of course you think that.
I mean, there's not a lot of see-through shirts.
You hate see-through anything.
I don't like see-through things.
You really don't.
It's a lie when you think about it.
A lie?
Yeah.
What's the lie?
The see-throughness.
Because if you walk through it, you're going to get hit.
You know, it's inviting you to...
But in reference to a shirt, how does that make sense?
Well, if it...
Also, how is it a lie you can see...
You can see through it.
Whatever you're talking about.
He's just talking about when you run into a window.
Yeah.
And that's all he's talking about.
That's not a lie.
You saw through it.
You saw through it so much.
You thought it wasn't there.
Yeah, that's the lie.
Okay.
So now Matthew responds to Catherine.
You think they should be called invisible windows.
Matthew responds to Karen's suggestion.
And I don't think it's not sarcastic.
But listen, Karen, thanks for the vital information.
I don't know what I would do without you.
I'll keep it in mind and the time comes.
This might be why he can't find a woman.
Okay.
I mean, there's no way that's not sarcastic.
There's no way that's not sarcastic.
You would never say to someone sincerely,
thanks for the vital information.
I don't know what I would do without you.
Yeah.
Then there are some nice exchanges.
Patricia says, hello, nice to meet you, Matthew.
Matthew says Patricia, hello, Patricia.
Nice to meet you.
How are you doing today?
I think he needs to learn to break up words a little bit because his thoughts are all run on.
And I do think that if he, that's how he greets someone on a blind date.
Hello, Patricia.
How are you?
Hi, Patricia.
Nice to meet you.
How are you doing today, Patricia?
That would put me off a little bit.
Was that all one post?
Yes, it was.
I'm telling you.
This is all one sentence.
He says the name that many times?
He says.
says it twice. Hello, Patricia,
hello, Patricia. Nice to meet you. How are you doing today?
Patricia, hello, Patricia. Yes. I would think
that was an alien trying to learn my language.
Correct, correct.
Trying to sound natural. Maybe these are both aliens
because she responds, Matthew, I'm doing good. How are you doing today?
Good boy.
And then Paris spelled like the
Robi and Julie net version.
Just kidding. I was having a little fun.
Paris, P-A-R-I-S-Me-E-E-S, meet Jesus. Everything else will fall into place.
I guarantee you.
Oh, Paris. Come on.
Matthew says, Paris, first of all, I'm not complaining so much, or I'm not hurting so bad that I need a woman so bad that I need to talk to Jesus for help. That's not how it is. Other Jesus is a good help. I didn't ask for Seymour. I didn't click further. Other Jesus is a good help. And a lot of things, but not this is not what I'm talking about at the same in general. I'm the same in general conversation that I'm single. That's all. I think we know why he's single.
Wow.
Did I get it and I tell you that was crazy?
What?
He's a little testy about.
He's a little testy.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Well, he comes out, you know, obviously, if, if you had the thought, maybe Jesus could solve this problem.
Mm-hmm.
You wouldn't first be going online.
No.
If you had all thought that Jesus was the solution.
If you're aware of who Jesus is.
Also, don't say that.
I mean, a relationship with Jesus.
what does that look like?
It's different for everyone.
That's not the same as a relationship
with a human body here on Earth.
That's not the same at all.
I don't know that that's what Paris was suggesting.
I think she was saying if you meet Jesus,
then you will end up with a girlfriend.
I think Paris is a man.
Okay.
I apologize for mischandering Paris.
It's not, I'm just saying,
I don't think a,
but this is a good question.
I feel like this is something.
Why do you think Paris is a man?
Because, first of all,
I wish I could say,
his last name is as French as it gets.
It might as well be Paris croissant.
But pairs with two R's.
But you're right.
I don't pair us with two R's.
You're right.
It could be a woman.
Thank you.
All right.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Okay. I'm sorry.
You can sit down.
I accept your shipology.
You didn't need to salute either.
That was weird.
I like salute.
Okay.
Fair enough.
You got a minute I'm good at it.
Look how you were.
It was crisp.
It was crisp.
It was crisp if it was anything.
Let me give me one more.
It went like an arrow stuck in the wall.
I just, I don't think that's going to help Matthew.
I can see why he's getting defensive.
I'm glad Patricia's there.
I hope they're both aliens.
I hope that they meet.
I hope they're both aliens.
Letricia, how are you, Patricia?
Nice to see you.
How are you doing today?
How do you like the earth food?
It is crisp.
Did you find an earth parking spot suitable to your liking?
Have you met Jesus?
He is good for the other.
He is good for the other.
Well, Matthew, best of luck.
I really hope you find someone, and I hope you don't invade our earth.
Yes, please.
Look kindly upon Earth.
Please do.
Some of us are trying our best.
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We still don't know what that means.
What?
CBB World.
No, I don't know what it stands for.
No idea.
I hope it's not something dirty.
So do I.
What is some of the...
What's some of the bonus content they can get?
Well, we do a lot of watchalongs because we talk about movies a lot.
It's true.
And we decide that if Burton only knows three things about them, we got to watch it.
It's true.
Lately, I've been on a hot streak of knowing more than three things about a lot of movies.
You've been doing really good.
I'm going to try to stump you.
Okay.
Also, also sometimes we will do a fun date night where we'll go out with can't right now because the incident's
happening.
with the incident?
We're okay.
We're okay for now.
All right.
We're holding our own.
Oh, he just saluted again.
Now, that makes me worry.
That makes me worry.
We better also...
Are you getting pulled into this burnt?
I mean, I...
Listen to the sound when I,
when I released the salute.
Listen to this.
Wow.
Is that real?
Babe, was that real?
I thought he was shooting a poison dart.
Wow, I got to work on that.
No, it was a very good salute.
It almost looked AI.
His fingers, he got six fingers in it.
I got tricked by AIA.
He has six fingers.
Tricked again the other day by A.I.
Here's the thing.
I'm not going to share any photos.
No.
Ever of anything.
Ever again.
Until AI is definitely dead and in the crowd.
Yes.
It's too depressing.
It's too depressing.
Yeah.
Why you have to go after cute animals?
Why can't those be real for us?
Why do you have to do that?
Train an animal to do that and then take a video of it.
That's what we want.
Yes.
That's what we want a real bear jumping on a real trample.
Yes.
It can't be that hard.
I bet a bear would love to do that if they could get up there.
I've been dying to get up there.
Put some food on a trampoline.
Let's just make it more accessible people.
Yes.
Put some food on a tramp.
That's how we fight.
That's how we fight.
That's how we fight.
Ooh, I saluted now.
You did?
It was a pretty good one.
Thank you.
Goodbye.
And bye.
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