The Netmums Podcast - S1 Ep38: Emma Bunton on wanting a third

Episode Date: June 15, 2021

Listen as Annie and Wendy get up close and personal with Baby Spice, discussing everything from never being able to shed your younger you to what’s for tea.

You're listening to Sweat, Snot and Tears, brought to you by Netmums. I'm Annie O'Leary. And I'm Wendy Gollage. And together we talk about all of this week's sweaty, snotty and tearful parenting moments. With guests who are far more interesting than we are. Good morning, Sweat, Snot and Tears team. We've only gone and bagged ourselves a bloody spice girl to talk to, haven't we, Wend? I can't talk. I'm all excited. Well to warm you up I'd quite like to

hear about the dog incident in field that you had yesterday because you've only told me a little snippet and I need to hear all the gory details. Well to give you the background our Spice Girl guest who will reveal in a minute mentioned that she's got a very elderly doggy who tends to woof at random occasions. And yesterday I was taking my very un-elderly puppy for a walk and he's a great big bouncy retriever. And he saw a little dog and he was trying to play with the dog. And then the dog just keeled over and was going like this on the floor.

And his owner's going, he's dying, he he's dying but what kind of dog was it what kind of it was just a little woofy thing like a little much smaller than hector much hector's like a polar bear and um so basically this dog was having a heart attack and he's 17 i didn't know that was possible it was going to happen any time, but your dog stopped his heart. So wait, what did she do? Try and give it mouth to mouth? She started slapping it. And then it woke up and trotted off. In the meantime, I am sat on the floor, shaking wreck.

But did she have a massive go at you? No, she was just like, oh, it's going to happen any day. I'm so glad it's not today. And then carried on with her walk. Oh my goodness. Please don so glad it's not today. And then carried on with her walk. Oh, my goodness. Please don't go in that field again. I won't. So without further ado.

Yeah, I think you might have guessed who she is. Our lovely Spice Girl with a very elderly dog, Emma Bunnison. Hello. Oh, my goodness. Oh, now I don't even want to take Jojo out. I didn't know that that's how dogs could meet their end. Nor did I. Something else for us to worry about.

Bad times. I know. All these things. All these things to worry about. Hello. Hello, hello. Lovely to have you here, Emma. Now, first up, before we go any further further the question we ask all of our guests have there been any sweat snot or teary moments in your house this morning oh most mornings

I've not got the right breakfast in or um the do you know what this morning was, which sounds terrible, but I'm definitely a lastminute.com mother. And we're starting to grow out of school uniform. So this morning, I'm trying to squeeze a blazer onto my child. They're like, it doesn't fit. I'm like, it will fit. It will. So we had a few tears about that. We've also got school photos happening today.

So the poor things, you know, they're going to be in the tight blazers. But I'm not going to buy another blazer. We're nearly at the end of term. We actually had a meeting at work about this yesterday because we were talking about planning for back to school in September, saying we're really sure that lots of parents didn't buy any uniform for this term because no one kind of knew what was going to happen and so everyone's trying to squeeze into not just stuff they bought at Easter but stuff they bought like last September absolutely I mean the only thing I bought was

shoes but yeah I've noticed that the you know trousers are short, blazers are short. The cropped trouser. I mean, the tiny, I mean. Oh, your poor kids. They're the ones going to school with trousers up mid-calf, aren't they? Yes, I know. Well, it'll make for a good comedy school photo when you get them back. Exactly, exactly. I think I feel really bad, but did I remember to buy the last ones? Do you get that?

Because you have to go on a big website thing and then order your it's become very very confusing but um yeah this time you're gonna have to suck it up because there's one whole turn to go I know you can't just do it for another turn what am I gonna do um yeah that's so we'll see but that was yeah so I mean it's always very busy in the mornings isn't it it? And because before I did radio, obviously, for breakfast, for so many years, I actually didn't do the school run in the morning. Oh, you lucky lady. I know. I mean, that was five years.

I need to get myself a breakfast roll. Five years of no school run. But I did used to get pretty upset about missing it. And, yeah, Jade would always be like, you won't miss it. It's just full of hurry up, get ready. So now I do it. But I do love it as well. I do love them waking up in the morning.

I love their little faces first thing in the morning, all a bit dreary. And yeah, so and I love kissing their faces that early in the morning. So I'm glad that I get the chance to do that now. But I've always wanted to ask a breakfast show host, do you have to go to bed at like seven o'clock? Yeah, well, if you want to feel half awake in the morning, you're supposed to go to bed pretty early. What time do you have to get up for a breakfast show then?

Usually my alarm would go off between kind of half four and quarter to five I know that's kind of I only get up that early if I'm going on holiday yeah or you're just getting in aren't you um but four thirty quarter to five but I definitely used to push it near the end like yeah I used to try and get to five and then literally just bung my clothes on and get out the door. Go in your pyjamas. Yes, yes. Yeah, it's very different now because they have lots of cameras everywhere, don't they? But when I was doing the radio show, it was kind of just turn up as you come.

Well cared. Yeah. So how was your lockdown, Mrs? My lockdown was very emotional and all different kinds of emotions really i think the first one i found the hardest which actually a lot of people say you know everyone is telling us that really yeah haven't they went every guest says the same a couple of my friends have said they found the last one harder but i found the first one hardest i think just getting used to the fact we didn't know what we were doing did we we didn't have a clue what we were doing

and the shock yeah it was just like what do you mean I've got to stay at home with these people who I call my family yeah I found the first one definitely a lot harder and just um you know mentally I was quite I was frightened and I, I stocked up on so much sanitizer. My children are just like, if you come through the door, you get sprayed. Even now. Like a sheep dip through the door. Sanitizer sheep dip. They really take the mickey out of me.

So I found that quite difficult. And I had my mum with me. She actually moved in. Oh, that's nice. Thank goodness. She actually moved in that's nice oh thank goodness she actually moved in I think about six months before the pandemic so uh she was here which was amazing but I must admit I felt you know obviously you're looking after your children your mother you know so I was very very careful and um we just stayed in our little bubble and and did work completely stop for you

or did you have to still travel to the radio show or did you do it at home did everything from home which was really nice it's good that you've got a job that you can do that with i felt really lucky actually because i think it sometimes just you know just gives you that kind of outlet of something to keep your brain working definitely and how dare we ask there we mentioned the hs words the homeschooling how the hell did that go that's what i found the hardest i think mainly because actually my eldest who's obviously teenager kind of got on with it my youngest just didn't want to do it it's just very much welcome to our club I don't want to do it and however much we tried it just wasn't happening so um Jade did you know kind of helped with the maths I do all the comprehension

English writing side and um but then the last lockdown something's switched and we actually got on kind of a role and what was your secret trick secret trick? Tell us. I don't know. I think just, you know, reading more and, you know, if we couldn't get something done, we just didn't do it. You know, we just had to get to that point. So actually what clicked is you gave less of a shit. We gave up. We just gave up. That's what happened in this house too.

By the end it was like, you've read three pages? Perfect. Hallelujah. I know I tried the whole thing we weren't meant to be teachers well me and Wendy weren't absolutely not I mean I'm far from it just yeah I mean I tried the whole uh we tried three o'clock books and biscuits because I thought maybe I can entice them oh I like the sound of that chocolate biscuit yes exactly but in the end it ended up that I was sitting with the chocolate biscuits having a read and you know the kids were running around

and the only thing that really went down well was sports day in our garden because oh my god brilliant you know and I just thought I'm just gonna do sports day and we did you do the egg and spoon we did egg and spoon we did did sack race, which honestly, we laughed for hours because I don't know if you've tried sack race recently. No. It is the hardest thing ever. I just kept falling over. The kids were laughing.

It was actually really good fun. And then I did like a dress up one where you had to get to one end of the garden and put a skirt on and a top and then the other end of the garden, put a hat on. And it actually took us hours, which was great because after that you know kind of wanted to put my Netflix on get on with it yeah so we had we don't really ever see your kids Emma was that a conscious decision on your part and Jade's part to keep them out of the limelight um probably in a way I think we've just we're trying just get a balance you

know um we're really proud of them obviously so now and again i'm like yeah you want to show them off a good smile yes like every other mother we're like i'm like come on let's get a lovely yeah and there's a family shot where one's thumping the other and someone's crying. Yes, and obviously, very, very luckily, you know, we get invited to, you know, some amazing premieres and you think, I want to go and take them to the Harry Potter, you know. So we try and just have a balance of it, really. What do they think about, do they know that you're famous? Do they care?

They do now. After the last tour, it was very special, actually. Because I think before then, they weren't, you know, I mean, I make them listen to Spice Girls now and again. Pops. Watch the movie. But I don't really. But the tour became really special because just at rehearsals,

they would come down and watch. And on the tour, all the kids were there. So we had like a family room and just having them be a part of it. And even for me performing, knowing they're watching. Yeah, does that feel weird or special or both? Really special. And I looked out for them every night. It doesn't matter what happened.

I'm always like, where's my mum? And yeah, always looking out for them. Your kids seeing what you do work-wise, it doesn't matter what happens I'm always like where's my mum where's you know so um and yeah your kids seeing what you do work-wise yeah it's quite a unique thing isn't it like yeah I'm just thinking if all of your kids are that little bit older now so if you do it again they'll all be the teenagers in that room snogging and like you know they will that's how we behaved with me with teenagers Wendy I'm sure and as children snogging and like stealing the bottles and bottles. Stop, stop. I know. You know they will. That's how we behaved when we were teenagers, Wendy.

I'm sure Emma's children are far better behaved. Yes, that's what we're going to say. There's a swear word now that I could say, but I'm not going to. Bullshit. Yeah, no, I know. It would probably be very different. Even though my eldest is so good with children, like even on this tour, I know. It would probably be very different. Even though my eldest is so good with children, like even on this tour, you know,

Bo kind of just looked after some of the other little ones. It was really lovely to watch. They became like a little team. How old is Bo now? Is Bo nearly at the age that you were when you joined the Spice Girls? Like how old were you when it started? No, no, no. Way far off.

13, both 13. I was, I met the girls at 18, 19. Oh, okay. I thought you were younger. No, no, 18. It's Jade actually, my other half. He signed his first record deal at 13. Wow.

I know. Like a child star. That's a child. Like now when I look at her, I think, I don't know how I'd feel about that. I don't know. Are your kids musically inclined? Do you think that's their thing?

My youngest is. Bo is. Yeah, they both are, I think. I really try hard for them to get, you know, to do musical instruments. And I'm always really jealous of when I'm on Insta and I see all these mums with their children like playing piano or guitar.

Yeah, the cello. Just plays, you know. No, we haven't got that. We always say that, you know, our vocal cords are our instruments. Yes, yes, that's true. That's what I'm getting away with for now anyway. But would you mind if they went into the business? Not at all because I think, again, you know,

both of us know so much about the industry now. That you could guide them in a way. Oh, 100%. Yeah, we would try and guide them. Obviously, you have to give them independence as well, which is important. But I think, yeah, we could guide them. And we know all about kind of behind the scenes and the contracts.

And so I think that would be good. But I don't know. I think they're far too young to kind of know what they want to do right now yeah I mean I I mean I'm 43 am I doing what I want to do I don't know what I'm doing I think and also your interests change all the time like people say to me about music and of course I love music and for me performing especially on tours with the girls that is you know the highlight for me But I started that when I was 18. So I've definitely got different interests, you know, growing up. Been there, done that. What's next?

You just try different things, don't you? And see what kind of interests you. But music's always been a big part of my life. Growing up now, I mean, it's just, you know, it's huge. One of the questions I was going to ask it actually kind of relates to this, which is like Wendy and I can thankfully sort of shed the person we were 25 years ago and not be constantly reminded of it. Thank the Lord.

But you'll forever be carrying baby spice along next to you, won't you? Does it bother you or do you quite like it um I love that part of my life so it's amazing memories like beyond and I look back on that with such fond memories makes me smile I do get there is sometimes when I go out now I feel like I've got myself dressed up but I do wonder if people are looking at me going that was baby's because obviously you know and I don't mind that I'm getting you know but I just that that's the sometimes the thing I think oh because I'm gonna get older and but I'm always gonna be known as baby's vice and obviously I'm not always going to be a baby but in the way that you'll never outlive that dress do you think you'll ever outlive the

pigtails is it just that i hope not i hope not i don't know it was such an iconic thing it is and annie and i are the generation who for whom you know spice girls were big when we were teenagers so it's just oh my god the spice girls yeah no i feel very lucky i mean it's just it's been an amazing part do you know what brought back a lot of memories for me I watched the Friends reunion last night and I cried my eyes out it's a very emotional thing but that is my like yeah it's your youth in my youth and I thought that's how people think of the Spice Girls as well it's just it's an emotional time and I think reminiscing is such when it's such a lovely you know a memorable part

of your life it's so it's so emotional. Were there bits of it that you look back and think oh I'm glad I don't do that anymore? Dancing in the hills. Yeah that would be very different now wouldn't it yeah oh we'd be breaking ankles left right and center i think well yeah and i did it back then as well a few times did you yeah i did well cracked i cracked a bone in my ankle in vegas i've done it twice but the heels were like yeah i know doom weren't they yeah and I went out the other day for lunch with my girls. I thought, I'll put a heel on. It's been a long time. And, oh, it was frightening. So I don't know how I kind of danced around in those

for like a two-hour long show. So that's the part I'm not sure I'd want to do again. And I think being away from home was always tough for me. I'm so close with my family. Travelling, you know, was wonderful, but it was always tough for me I'm so close with my family traveling um you know it was wonderful but it was always kind of lovely to come home and be around my family yeah and you won't be able to do that with your kids in the same way just just not but they've got their lives haven't no they uh yeah oh well they do have to come with me if we did if we did more they'd have

to just I've done I've made a rookie mistake today can I just share it with you I've put really tight jeans on oh man I hate it when that happens I just might have to undo it undo it's fine why do we do it I thought again I haven't put jeans on for a while I don't know about you but and my mum said another rookie mistake

don't always wear your tracksuit bottoms through this whole entire lockdown no because they grow with you, don't they? Yes. And then when you try and get your jeans back on, I'm like literally lying on the floor like... Yeah. I've done that today.

I thought I'd dress up for you with a jean. Oh, I'm liking the denim. I'm not doing that. We can only see you from the boob ups. Oh, good. That's good. Oh, well, I'm doing them. I'll take them off.

Yeah. Go wild. Oh, right, I'm doing them. I'll take them off. Yeah. Go wild. I've heard you say that you're flipping glad that social media didn't exist when you started in the Spice Girls. How different would it have been if it had? So different, I think. You know, as a group, we were so solid. And I think we didn't have that pressure as well as, you know,

kind of everything else. So I think it would have been very different. It's hard, isn't it? It's really hard. Young girls, women, you know, all children. Anyone young. I was going to say, how do you handle it with the kids? So if Bern's only 13.

They're not on anything at the moment, thank goodness. Do they want to be? Yes. But we talk about it very openly that you're far too young and we also have a little bit of an extra thing that people do know who you are so because they're always like my friends are um so yeah we just talk very very openly about it and i'll know when they're ready i know them quite well well to know whether they can handle them. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. I mean, I think Beau does maybe have one thing, but definitely I feel like Beau's a bit more grown up, obviously, and just a bit more sensible at the moment. But even as an adult who isn't famous, social media can be really hurtful at times. And you don't want it to be. But you get subjected to comments that you would never be subjected to in real life.

So people feel it's OK to say, oh, that's a shit jumper or whatever it might be. I would never say that to you, Wendy. Thank you, darling. But, you know, if you're walking down the street someone's not going to go oh Emma crap jumper you look awful

but they would happily say on social media oh oh look Wendy's packed on the pounds that's the shit it's like what gives people the right

I know to do that it's frightening isn't it and I think these are people hiding behind something and they just feel like they

have that that they can say things like that so um how do you deal with it I thought you just pay no attention I really do and because it would upset me because I'm very you know normal girl and I think it would just upset me so I take yeah I just try not to take any attention to that because it's just it can be as you just said it can be really painful not worth the effort yeah I mean I'm more of one of those where I'm kind of looking at mine I think ah because I can't cook to save my life so I'm always a bit jealous of people that can I'm like that's the only thing I take notice of i'm like why can't i do that or what you know um but no i don't take any notice of the um messages or anything like

that that are horrible i try to just concentrate on the positive yeah it's the only way now missus in researching this interview we were inundated with some pretty fresh clippings saying, you're contemplating a third. Is this true or is it? It changes daily. It changes daily. Is Jade also contemplating a third is the other question. Jade would absolutely love another child. I mean, there's... Come on then, what are we waiting for?

Let's go. It would be nice, wouldn't it? I've just, honestly, I change my mind all the time very indecisive not with work but home stuff but home stuff even like what we have for dinner one minute i want spaghetti bolognese the next minute i want you know fish and chips i'm just very indecisive and you can't be indecisive about something like that so i'm quite wary i'm quite wary but no i think i yeah i think it's something that um if happens would be absolutely wonderful um I'm not sure we'll see we spoke to the kids on it as well which is really

oh my goodness do you know what they put on the top of their Christmas list this year what a baby a sibling goodness. I mean, no pressure. Come on, crack on. I know. I think, yeah. I mean, I think actually once my eldest did say, and not knowing actually what that meant, but I think, you need to go in there and have sex and have a child. Oh.

So, you know, it's something they want. If only it were that simple. If only. Exactly. Now, you've got a mum book coming want. If only it were that simple. If only, exactly. Now, you've got a mum book coming out, haven't you? I have. It's called Mummy, You Got This. I started actually, well, I've been thinking about it for so long and then got round to doing it in lockdown, which was perfect timing.

And this is a book that has got lots of experts in it. So there's some wonderful people in there that, you know, will just give you lovely advice and things to do to help you along the way of, you know, the first year of your baby's life. And there's also just lots of stories, you know, from me um some very honest honest stories about how kind of I dealt with that first year and um yeah I'm just very open and I think I remember being pregnant and having my first child that first year was I interviewed you when you were first pregnant oh my goodness yes oh wow oh wow that was oh wow. That was a long time ago. It was a long time ago, yeah.

There's, you know, there was lots of books around. I just, at that time, I felt like I wanted something that was a bit like, a bit honest. And if I was going through some, you know, tough times, someone else would go, I've got that. Because I do remember nobody telling me that breastfeeding was painful. I'd never heard that before.

We hear that a lot. Yeah, we do. And it isn't for everybody. But if it is for you, it really impacts the experience. Absolutely. And, you know, all of this is in my book because I'm so lucky I've got really liberal friends, you know, from different ends of the spectrum. You know, some of them breastfeed for

years some of them never did you know so I was very lucky very open friends and I was never judged on whether I was going to or not and um but I always knew that I wanted to try that was my thing and um but yeah I found I found it very painful and lots of odd things happening during that time and you know I'm just very open about it in the book. But did you get to the point where you could squirt your milk for at least a metre? Oh, yeah. That was the best thing. Oh, yes.

That was my party trick. Having someone's eye out. So is it for mums with babies up to one? Is that the book or is the book for everyone i would say it's it's there's a bit of everything in there also because jade um talks a little bit in the book as well that's nice it's lovely because dads often don't get a look in do they and they need a voice they really do exactly i yeah. And I am denied actually about the name of the book, Mama, You've Got This, because I just thought I really want, you know, if I could put mama, dada, everyone. You've got this.

All the people. so lucky he was such a big part of that but of course you know the breastfeeding the you know kind of afterbirth you know all of that is obviously you know about you've got to deal with it yeah yeah but he was amazing at the end of it all they just they don't and things still yeah yeah they don't have that so but he does talk in the book and I cried my eyes out because again he was very honest about how you know right at the beginning you feel a little bit left out and you're not sure where your part is so he writes all about how he kind of just helped me along the way and just made sure he was there for kind of support he was he's amazing and honestly it's quite emotional when you read his part in the book oh I can't wait to read his bit now it's so lovely it's really good to have the dad's stuff it is it's nice to get their side and also he

um is brilliant in the kitchen and I'm terrible so the weaning part of it actually comes quite a lot from Jade as well and he's done a little um recipe in there and yeah so it's lovely so there's all sorts of bits going on and And then my mum talks as well. Aww. Yeah. Okay, well, we can't wait to read it. Thank you. So the next question for you is, it's a tricky one.

Oh. How do you want to be remembered by your kids? Oh, by my kids. I want them to remember me as just just loving them loving them more than anything I mean I've actually at the end of my book I thank my mum because I I just knew that I was loved and that's you know that was the main thing for me so I'd love them to remember that they were loved hugely and I tell them all the time and I kiss them all the time cuddle them all the time and of course my 13 year old is a bit like but actually knows that it's happening so Bo has to kind of go with it um but also gonna stop child yeah whether they like it or not whether they like it or not it's

um it's a big part of our family yeah we're very warm and and um so I think loved and and fun kind that's how I'd like them to remember me nice now next question we always ask well you've kind of half answered this already we always say what's for tea and who's cooking I'm taking it as Jade not you I do Jade. I do one dish. Tell us, tell us. And the kids are sick of it. It's broccoli and cheese pasta. Sounds nice. Is it just broccoli with grated cheese or does it go a bit further than that?

It's literally boiled. No, that's it. It's boiled broccoli. And I put the broccoli in with the pasta so it all boils together. Awesome. And then I just grate cheese on it. Well, simple. I've got to tell you, Emma, I'd stick with your other talents. And then I just grate cheese on it. Well, simple. I've got to tell you, Emma, I'd stick with your other talents.

I think I should. I think I should. I've tried other things and it never quite works out. So, no, I definitely leave the cooking up to Jade. And he really enjoys it. So that's lovely. Good bloody job, by the way. I know.

Thanks, Joganis. Otherwise it would be a lot of Deliverooing going on. I know. or chicken nuggets. I know, terrible. Can't beat a chicken nugget. Don't knock the humble chicken nugget. Can't beat a chicken nugget. I love it.

I'm liking a corn nugget because at least then you know. There you go. That it hasn't been, that a poor animal hasn't. Yes, exactly. I'm going to try that one actually. But pasta's usually a go-to for me. With broccoli and cheese. Do you know what though?

The kids love it. Poor Jade, sometimes he slaves over, you know, a really gorgeous meal, roast dinner or a shepherd's pie, like takes him all day. And then I'll just do my person. They're like, oh, that was the best meal we've had all week. So, yeah. You could do a really simple cookery book just with one recipe i could

one page so what's next for emma what have you got coming up oh my goodness other than the well the book is obviously happening right now and um and that's what i'm kind of excited about and kids love it version haven't you i saw you recording that the other day. I did. It took a while. It's perfect for mums who are out there pushing the pushchair and haven't got time to read a book. And we're so into Audible. I mean, that's what we do at night. Bedtime is kind of lots of Audible books.

So it's perfect for us, really. And yeah, but it took me a long time. But I really enjoyed that. And yeah, so just I'm busy with the book the kids love it because there's pictures of them in it and it's nice um so radio still speaking to the other spice girls about lovely future projects um hopefully that's all she's gonna say isn't it come on tell us come on yeah that's what you want um that will hopefully you know get off the ground but some nice things we talk we try to talk once a week and yeah catch up and just is there some

sort of spice girls zoom where you will have a zoom i'd love it if that happened no but we've got a whatsapp a cheeky whatsapp what's it called what do you call it do you call it? Do you call it Spice Girl Chat? What is it called, actually? I think it's just My Girls. Oh, that's so cute. Imagine what the red tops would pay to get access to that WhatsApp group. Don't, you're giving me anxiety. Don't worry, it's all encrypted. So, yeah, so, but I think I'm very spontaneous. I kind of take each day as it comes.

So busy with the kids, you know, summer holidays coming up. So, yeah, just taking each day as it comes really at the moment. I think that's one of the big lockdown life lessons for everyone, isn't it? Like you never know what tomorrow is going to bring. So you just got to get on with it day by day. Absolutely. And, you know, the one thing it brought is that you know we love hanging out as a family um I've actually felt a little bit anxious about getting back to normal I know what you mean

you know it's weird isn't it and everyone's so excited like and I do of course I love it like my friends were like right where are we going for dinner and you know a couple friends and we're like right let's book something and I I'm a bit like, okay. And I do want to do all that. Of course I do. But I'm also anxious about the fact that, yeah, we're getting back to normal and the kids are back at school fully. And it's just, yeah.

And some days really miss that, this all being at home, eating banana cake. Not baked by you. Not baked by me at all. Even though I needed to get out of that because i i do love my food i love sitting in front of the telly and eating biscuits and so that's the only good thing to get back out and about because people are going to see me so i need to get my stuff we need to get that top button of the jeans we do that can be a collective goal for the three of us yes and right so on to our final question and i

swear on the holy bible this was not designed just for you we ask it of every single guest every week okay we like you to imagine that you are tucking wendy and i into bed in a in a nice way and that we can't sleep so you sing us your family lullaby the lullaby you normally sing to your kids when they won't drop off okay now i know your kids are a bit older so you might have to think back to what you used to sing oh i know there's lots there's lots we've got give us your favorite you are my sunshine my my only sunshine. You make me happy when skies are grey. You'll never know, dear, how much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away.

Oh, that makes me a bit emotional. That makes me a bit emotional. That one, and then there was, here comes the sun. Here comes the sun, and I i say it's all right oh there was lots there was i i love singing them they probably don't like it anymore but i still do i was gonna say you have lucky kids because you can sing when wendy and i try and do it doesn't quite go down so well oh i actually get told mummy could you stop now yeah shush now mummy shush now mummy could you read me a book no singing please oh thank you emma that was an absolute delight

well it was a pleasure it was such a pleasure i really enjoyed it what are you having for lunch i've got leftover chicken satay for last night. Oh, nice one. Ooh. Lovely. So did you have a takeaway last night, Wend? No, I made it. You did not. I did. Really?

What did you make? Chicken satay. What, with the peanut sauce and everything? Yeah. Very impressed. Emma, she's showing us up. I know. It's basically just peanut butter and soy sauce, guys. There's no kind of... Is that really? Is that really all it is? There's no mystery. Fish sauce, soy sauce just peanut butter and soy sauce, guys. There's no kind of...

Is that really? Is that really what it is? There's no mystery. Fish sauce, soy sauce, peanut butter and a load of veg. Oh, that sounds lovely. Jade makes his own pesto sauce as well, which I love. Oh, I love pesto. And that's quite easy, apparently, but...

So what are you going to have? Well, I'm having leftovers too. I've got a spaghetti bolognese. Oh, lovely. Annie's in a derelict house full of carpenters so i can't imagine yours mine will be a cold lunch um yeah but the good news is the house is opposite a waitrose so it's quite happy oh very i chose well i chose there you go right go and enjoy your kids kit and kin's just gone into weight shows well there we go I will I'll go and stroke it

yes please thank you so much what a lovely morning lovely speaking to you have a great day bye bye