The Netmums Podcast - S1 Ep67: Kelvin and Liz Fletcher on how to embrace your inner farmer

Episode Date: February 15, 2022

Two kids, twins on the way.....and a farm! Listen as The Fletchers talk about ALL OF IT with Annie and Wendy. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Sweat, Snot and Tears brought to you by Netmums. I'm Annie O'Leary and I'm Wendy College and together we talk about all of this week's sweaty, snotty and tearful parenting moments with guests who are far more interesting than we are. On this week's show... We were three months into production when Clarkson's came out and we did get a lot of suggestions. Oh they just ripped it off or copycatted it. You know we were three months down the line into filming and then Clarkson's arrives like yeah I think it was summertime and we're like, oh, right. OK. So we were not trying to do anything like that. We are fans of all those shows. But before all of that.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Welcome to another episode of Sweat, Snot and Tears. Today's clue about today's guest is Ouar, or should I say guests, plural. Wendy, any clues from you? Ouar, combine harvesters. It's taken me back to my youth in Wiltshire. So if I were to say things like the Dingles and the Tates and the Sugdens, that might give you a bit of a clue to one of our two guests. And my nan shouting at me to shut up because this particular show was on the telly.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Okay, enough with the farmer cliches. Let's get chatting to them. I have much to ask, mainly of the how come you're leading my dream life and I'm not variety. Welcome Kelvin and Liz Fletcher. How are you today? We're good, thank you. Hello guys. Hello, hello. Hello, hello. Who are, who are? That's more like it.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I'm so glad you said that. I'm more like a pirate. The first question we ask, which I suspect there might be some of all of these in your house this morning, is any sweat, snot or tears in the Fletcher house? Absolutely. Every morning, it's just a real big effort to whinge and cry. So, yeah, it's kind of pegging us back about five or ten minutes. So on the school run of late, we've been the last parents rocking up. You ain't been the last parents, don't you?
Starting point is 00:01:52 But that's been us. That's me every day. Yeah, that's us every day, really. But it's been even worse now. But he's going through that little stage of just whinging, won't do anything without being held or cuddled. And when there is snot, teaching them how to blow the that's that's a task in itself isn't it I know my son's 10 and he's still not brilliant at it I'm like oh god up to your nose harder I know you just want to do it for
Starting point is 00:02:18 them don't you think come on life will be so much better once you've done it do you think it's anything to do with the fact that very excitingly there are twins on the way right yeah maybe he's like sussed out that he's a bit kind of not going to be the baby anymore that is a good point i never thought of that actually but he's not really taking much notice of it he does like to blow raspberries on my belly and and says baby's in there but it's mom um our daughter who's five who can't wait to be you know pushing them around in a pram giving them a bottle cuddling them well let's face it with twins you're going to need all the help you can get so it's going to be slave labor from the second they come out yeah train them up now train them up now
Starting point is 00:03:02 tell us about this twin business tell us how you found out how you reacted when you found out and how big or not big your bump is so the bump is huge the bump has been huge since what feels like day one of being pregnant and um i've got months what have i got about three months left yeah to go and i'm And I'm not actually sure how much bigger this can possibly get because I'm feeling stretched out already. But I'm told from, I've had a lot of lovely messages on Instagram. You've always had a comical bump. Yeah, I have always carried huge babies.
Starting point is 00:03:39 But does it feel heavier? Like when you're walking, does it feel i by the way i'm mimicking a kind of weird like mr chubby kind of walk thing on my camera walking with a melon between your legs is the but yeah does it feel heavy inside definitely i've definitely got the waddle the waddle is there you've got the waddle at the 20 weeks mark oh yeah that's why I fear for your pelvic floor yeah trampolines are out girlfriend trampolines have been a no-go for a while so how did you react when you found out because I can only imagine my husband was bad enough with one Kelvin were you like swearing and crying fainting it was the opposite I think I was, it's twins in Lizzie's family.
Starting point is 00:04:28 So I think a grandma, a great grandma was a non-identical twin, her and her brother. And so I guess knowledge of that, you think it's always a possibility, you know, maybe it's a possibility, but we never kind of went in. I guess it's like winning the lottery. Maybe that's not the best analogy, but you never it's gonna happen to you do you and and and I guess well certainly for me twins is always like that you know how amazing would it be just you know to have twins is is you know a gift a gift from God really so it was uh so to to get in the scan
Starting point is 00:05:00 you know just a routine scan if you like uh to then it's kind of told that the nurse said oh we've got something to say and i think you was aghast and was like don't tell me there's two in there and she was like yeah and honestly in that moment it's the most joy i've ever felt in my life like it was just a lovely thing to hear i've never it was i can't explain it it was just the most overwhelming happy like euphoric just then straight away i think the the you know the oh my goodness what we're gonna do i kind of you know i think you was panicked a little bit and then there's a overjoyed there's there's a complete mixture of emotions but for me selfishly i was just thinking this is amazing i'd never thought the logistics of how you know
Starting point is 00:05:41 suddenly you have to change your car how you're going to breastfeed two babies, you know, we're going to be that family walking to the restaurant, holidays. I've not even thought of that. I've just kind of thought of this is literally, this is a miracle, this is amazing. Do you know what you're having? And do you know if they're identical? We've not found out yet.
Starting point is 00:06:00 It's going to be a surprise. So we... We have found out, but we're just not telling you. Okay, that's fine. But can I ask a really dumb question? How do they know if they're not born, if they're identical? Because they share a placenta, don't they? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Not necessarily. You can still get identical twins who don't share a placenta. There's so many probabilities of twins that they can't be 100% sure until they are born. Wow. That's so exciting. And they all come looking the same anyway. So you're going to spend the first few days going, are they identical?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Aren't they? You can't tell. The trick that I've learned over the years as a parenting journalist is apparently you need some nail varnish on hand, Kelvin. And you paint one of their little nails one colour and then the other one one of their little nails another colour so that from birth you're sure who's who oh really yeah because if you put a hat on there or something some unhelpful person's going to come and take the hat off or the hat's going to fall off or the sock's going to fall off whatever but nail varnish they're unlikely to be able to chip their own nail varnish off at birth unless you're having geniuses
Starting point is 00:07:02 the thought of a nurse walking in and you're painting your brand new baby i know sorry we're celebrities you know we take our kids manicures really seriously just in case the paps are outside we've got our nails done so you've got a marnie and you've got a milo are you going going to have a Mildred and a Matilda? Or is it not going to be Muz or a Michael and a Moses? I don't know. Yeah. This is the dilemma now because do we keep that and then the whole family is M's?
Starting point is 00:07:35 Or do we not do that? But then will someone feel left out? As in, why didn't you go with an M with us? Well, I think you're part way to becoming England's Kardashians with your reality show. If you're really serious about it, you'll commit to that M. Come on, guys. I like the idea of the M.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I'm trying to angle towards sticking with the M thing. Right, listeners, we will put this on Instagram. We want some M suggestions. I bet you bookies will be taking bets by the end of the day. Will they go with the M or will they not? How are you going to juggle four kids, 8,000 sheep
Starting point is 00:08:13 and a farm? Have we got a plan? Have we got a pen and paper and a chart going? Or how is this going to work exactly? You'd love to be that organised, wouldn't you? I'd love to. In my idea, I've got a really good, strict, pretty strict, robust plan that can offer the stability and the structure that you need,
Starting point is 00:08:36 but then is open to change as a good plan always should be. But Liz doesn't like plans, doesn't like to be organised, likes the idea of chaos, likes mess, likes not being able to find the socks at 5 to 8 in the morning. It's a bloody good job, quite honestly, because it's all coming. You know, this is the problem with twins. I'll be that mum that never dresses in the same because I can never find that same outfit.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Yeah, that's fine. I think you sound like a good couple. You're very yin and yang. Is that how it works in your house massively yin and yang I like I love organ I love things to be organized planned structured and it's just because I've not we've not really got a structured consistent life work life certainly so for me a school routine or just those few hours in the morning or to try and get that structure there is just like it's the only thing
Starting point is 00:09:25 I'm craving really because it's so hard to kind of find any sort of consistency with with work life because it's simply not there so the at least you know at least try and find a little bit of consistency and structure in family life and Lizzie's like it'll be fine you know the socks sometimes live there the socks sometimes live there and sometimes live over there that's just you know 20 minutes she just likes keeping you guessing yeah yeah exactly so do you have any help is there a granny around the corner or uh you know are you really doing it all the farm stuff the kids stuff obviously you're doing the growing a baby stuff on your own list but is there any other have you got help i mean we've got a great support network with with with in-laws and my parents but they're an hour away yeah so yeah on the odd occasion they'll
Starting point is 00:10:10 look i mean last night for instance we had to go to wait we didn't have to we chose to go to a show as in to speak with vets and get some advice for we'll be in a few weeks so we wanted to as newbies you know we can you can read as many forums ask as many questions but to go and kind of get hands-on advice from your local vet was pretty important for us. So we went to a thing last night. So obviously Liz's parents came over, picked the kids up from school and had them for a couple of hours.
Starting point is 00:10:33 So that was a – that probably only happens maybe once every week, once every couple of weeks. So they're on call should we need them. But because locality where they are, we literally are doing everything ourselves. You know, this morning I did the school run, came back, fed the pigs. Liz was looking after our daughter who wasn't so well.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And that's every day. We're just managing everything ourselves. I mean, farm-wise, we've not got any farm hands. It's just me and Liz. But obviously Liz is going to be taken out for the next couple of months because she's obviously carrying herself. And I'm not allowed to go near the sheep and you don't realize really yeah it's dangerous for pregnant women to go near pregnant sheep they can carry a
Starting point is 00:11:16 virus that um awfully could cause miscarriage so it is it's don't go near the sheep stay no i've got to be and kelvin is very you know even his clothes he'll change them at the door before he's coming to the house and we are very strict with that so technically Kelvin's a man down and um has to do even more on his own so guys what's gonna happen right it's midnight and she goes into labor with the twins you're an hour away from any help there's fields full of sheep. How is this going to work? I'm getting nervous already.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I won't be sleeping for the next six months, I'm telling you. Well, rule number one, stay calm. Okay. I need you in my life, Kelvin. I need you. Carry on. I'm good at that. Stay absolutely calm and then you'll think straight.
Starting point is 00:12:02 If you get in a frenzy, you're going to panic and you just think straight. And all you need to worry about is everything that you can control. What I'm in control of at midnight at that point, obviously Liz and Babby's are the priority. So we're 10 minutes from the hospital. We drive 10 minutes and we get there, but I drive there.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Okay, fine. I thought you'd be an hour from the hospital as well. That's what was getting me. Yeah, no. When we say we're an hour away from our parents because they live in a different county. But yeah where we are yes it's isidillic countryside middle of nowhere but yeah literally within 10 minutes we could be in a town with a hospital or a train station or a you know a starbucks or anything like that so yeah we're pretty good
Starting point is 00:12:38 in that sense okay i had visions of bob the farmer from the farm next door turning up with a rubber glove and probably could but these farmers are like that from down there. They literally, I mean, I guess farmers up and down, they'll just, we jumped last night with Jack, our local farmer, and he's delivered cows, he's delivered lambs. I could deliver a couple of babies. I wouldn't put it past him. Well, after your lambing course, you can probably do it yourself.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Talk to us about farmy things. So what's the farmiest thing you've done so far yeah i want to know when did you reach peak farmy person as you can tell i did not go to agricultural college um there's been a few moments like i guess weirdly i'm getting a i mean listen we're a year in you know and obviously what you're seeing on tv uh what was on the TV show was a year ago. So we've very much come a long way from there. But I'm getting a real instinctive nature now where I thought something with the grass, I thought one particular field was a little bit short.
Starting point is 00:13:33 This time of year, you know, a farmer's struggle with livestock is you've just not got enough grass. I'm going to constantly substitute that kind of what your land is giving you because the nature of the season. And I thought it's a bit short. I need to kind of move these pregnant ewes onto another field. So I just thought before, and also take the males away. We've got two males in the flock of 30 sheep.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And they're very much big. When you're going in for a little bit of feed, if you're going there with some sugar beet or whatever, the males will try and move the females out of the way. They're not the most courteous. And that's the time when if she's heavy and lamb, she could maybe miscarry or something like that. So it's a good time.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I was thinking, seeing these boys a bit boisterous, I need to kind of take them away and put them in a different field. So I rang our mentor, Julie, and said, Julie, listen, this is what this field, we have a drive past. To me, it's looking a bit short. Anyway, half an hour later, she was like, yeah, you're right. It's a bit short. Move them on and move the boys out.
Starting point is 00:14:23 You're right. So it's weird how kind of, you know know sometimes it's probably a little bit of common sense but you felt proud of yourself that day didn't you he came in and said i've got the instincts i've got it now i know what i'm doing even the way you told the story was very farmy it's looking a bit short see i would just oh, the grass is looking a little shorter than usual. But you went, it's looking a bit short. Straight to the point, farmer speak. So back to my beginning question.
Starting point is 00:14:52 How come you're doing this and I'm not? What was the, what was the, right, we're actually going to do it. Not just going to talk about this. We're going to do this. You can't ask that. And every time I think we give a different answer. I know. It feels like such a long time ago people kind of a lot of our friends and family and mom and dad you know i mean certainly my dad um i can i guess we can make uh maybe i'm the catalyst in that
Starting point is 00:15:17 because i'm kind of the the i've had a thought i've had an ideal is everything does start with a thought and i kind of relate and liz is stupid enough and brave enough like me to think well yeah let's do it and that's our whole attitude is to absolutely embrace the unknown and take challenges on and you know when people say oh wouldn't it be lovely I'm like well do it if you don't work out then then you fail and you go back you know so moving abroad or changing a career or whatever it might be, those big decisions that people, friends and family, for us, dither about and, oh, they're just not really worth taking that sort of risk. I don't see it really as a risk. Yeah, it's a bit of a risk, but life's a risk.
Starting point is 00:15:55 So, yeah, it was like, listen, I'd like it if we kind of live in the countryside and just do something completely different. Well, we were meant to go to California. That was the plan. S just do something completely different. Well, we were meant to go to California. That was the plan. Slightly different. Very different. And then the pandemic hit. So our visas kind of got put on hold.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And that's then we kind of looked at, right, what are we going to do now? Because moving was always going to happen. It was just a case of where and what. So it went from sunshine, chasing chasing blue skies to chasing rolling hills yeah so it was just a little bit of um i guess you know let's just do something different we're young enough yes we've got children at school but let's just have a great experience and let's just try something new and i guess as actors you know your destiny sometimes feels like it's forever in somebody else's hands yeah and you know and for us just to take control of something in our life
Starting point is 00:16:50 to give us that absolute consistent focus that we're in charge of that for me has just been so fulfilling and then everything else you know acting whatever it might be as and when you want it it's a bonus or whatever but it just gives us that absolute focus it brings us all together we're doing something as a family we can implement our own ideas our own ways to try and make money to learn new you know to learn about you know administering vaccinations to sheep whatever it is i'm genuinely fascinated by all that and it's just been an absolute learning curve yes at times i feel like we're bitten off more than we can chew but ultimately we've taken a plunge and so many people have reached out and said ah just you're doing exactly and it's not just making a big move it's just maybe a career move when you've always thought oh I'm not yeah
Starting point is 00:17:35 I'm not really happy if you're not happy do something about it you know that's just my all motto is get it done you know take the first step when we interviewed angel strawbridge a while back she said that they tried when they started their new life in france to become part of the chateau set but yes she did like it and is there like a farmy set have you got a gang of farmers that you go and get drunk with or not drunk in your case liz but is there a farmy setting do you enjoy that or are you very much the four of you no that is the one thing that I was worried about moving here I thought I'm going to be isolated moved away from my friends had a great um friendship network in Oldham where we used to live and that was my biggest worry of just thinking oh what I'm just going to lose all that now but
Starting point is 00:18:22 actually that community is bigger than we had in Oldham. And it's funny because we all live so far away from each other that, you know, we've not got a neighbour now that you just meet next door. The neighbour is literally a mile down the road. And they are all so kind to us and so generous. And they will call around when we moved in. They all called around to introduce themselves.
Starting point is 00:18:44 They brought gifts and, like, baskets of food. And they've become – and we speak to them regularly. And when you go to the pub, you know who's there. And they've all had these little community events or do's. And you get invited and they're all just on hand and they all want to help. They all – even with the babies, not just the farming. They're all like, you need any even with the babies not just the farming they're like you need any help with the babies ringos it's still all very new though we're only a year in
Starting point is 00:19:10 you know and anybody who's moved out before it's a huge thing so you know you continue with new schools new neighbors new areas discovery of new local coffee shops supermarkets you're kind of just finding your feet and we're still a little bit late to the party really because maybe you do that within the first few months we were filming a documentary in the first few months i was away doing other acting work so it's been such an intense year that we kind of now we've been and um there very much is a farming hub if you like around there this is a professional hub as well and different you know uh career paths from different people naturally where we are there's a lot of farms and they've been great i'm still you know we're still not fully flesh farms and we don't expect to be but we've kind of been taken seriously somewhat ish you know and our efforts and
Starting point is 00:19:56 endeavors have been kind of acknowledged and um but there's some huge big commercial farmers and there's also some small holders like ourselves and the one thing that's consistent is you feel part of a group you feel there's somebody there that you can ring up and ask for some advice so yeah it's been really lovely and and liz said last night we're in this um we're in this vet place having a talk i'm where i wear scruffy clothes every single day i love it and liz just looked at me and said you've just gone back to your roots you haven't you meaning secretly I just love looking scruffy just looking things out eating bacon baps you know they had a bit of free food up there I went up for seconds I think just me I don't know if it's my roots or what but and I just love that simple life. And Liz was just kind of signalling to herself, saying, look how happy you are. And I was like, yeah, I love it.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Now, before, there was a question we were going to ask, but I actually want to know what you think about being compared to Jeremy Clarkson. Yeah. Yeah, I guess it's a comparison that came off the bat, wasn't it? It's quite a comparison. It's quite an odd comparison yeah it's a little bit unfair i think on 30 of the shows you know there's a whole host i could
Starting point is 00:21:09 probably name half a dozen straight away of that type of show you know um idyllic country living representing the industry and giving you an insight so what it's like you know kate umber has one on channel five we absolutely love that obviously the yorkshire farm i think channel five biggest most successful show. Matt Baker's got it on Channel 4. Yeah, This Farming Life,
Starting point is 00:21:28 which I love that. I love that show. That's very, very, you know, subject matter. Something that's a little bit light-hearted,
Starting point is 00:21:35 you're Matt Baker, you're Clarkson's. So to be exclusively compared to Clarkson, I think was a little random, you know, and I guess it's because
Starting point is 00:21:44 it's BBC. It's a big platform. BBC One is prime time. Then naturally they are going to be compared to what's, you know, making the biggest noise at the minute, which is Clarkson. But as people can see, I think episode three, episode four, it's a complete different show. You know, we're not – we were three months into production
Starting point is 00:21:59 when Clarkson's came out. So to suggest that we've – and we did get a lot of suggestions. Oh, they just ripped it off or copycatted it. You know, we were, you know, don't forget, there's probably a three or four-month development process. There's a pitching process, a commission process. We're three months down the line into filming. And then Clarkson's arrives, I think it was summertime,
Starting point is 00:22:18 and we're like, oh, right, okay. So we were not trying to do anything like that. We are fans of all those shows. We loved Clarkson's, didn't we? It was anything like that. We are fans of all those shows. Clarkson's. We loved Clarkson's, didn't we? It was brilliant, yeah. We watched it. And hopefully they'll be fans of ours as well. Just don't copy his techniques for farming,
Starting point is 00:22:34 would probably be my advice, with my obviously extensive farming knowledge. Yeah, I'm not copying anyone. I've got no need to. We're very confident who I am. I'm very confident who we are. Liz's, as a family what we represent is is just us all we are being is ourselves and the mistakes that we make for me are genuine mistakes the successes are genuine successes and you know um any comparisons like that you know for me watch our show and make
Starting point is 00:23:03 your conclusions then if you love it then great if you don't then you know watch something else that's that's that's just the way it is i think that's a very healthy attitude now if you could give one piece of advice to anyone else pursuing the farmy dream what would it be just the dream well yeah because like i it's interesting actually i think you have a lot in common with Angel Strawbridge like they they did the same they fancied a life turning around a chateau in France so they went and did it you fancied having to go to a farm so you went and did it what would you say to anyone else who's kind of on the cusp of shall we shall we I think it's very easy to say go and do it yeah that can sound you know let's let's not but it's hard when you're parents isn't it because you've got to think about what it's going to mean for the kids exactly and my
Starting point is 00:23:48 friends always said to me oh when you meet somebody you get into you might have you i was i'm very very very ambitious so is liz and uh you meet a partner and suddenly you think that becomes somewhat your excuse to to not so much change your dreams that then then you have kids and that becomes the limit and i just think the absolute opposite when me and liz first got together we first moved together liz wanted to go and pursue a musical theater you know um dream so we just moved in together and liz said i've been picked to go to musical theater school in london it means i'm going to be in london for a year 12 you know 18 months so i was like do it i can't think of yes i'll miss you we've just moved in but you have to absolutely go and do it because I'd expect that
Starting point is 00:24:25 if it was the other way around. So kids are the same. Yes, it's a little bit harder when kids are in schools, but put the kid in a different school. You know, these sort of adventures of life and mixing with different people and things, it's, for me, I very much, obviously, the decision that we, you know, for a year, year and a half, we researched different areas.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Yeah, we didn't decide this overnight. The industry, could we make it work? How would you commercialise it? Yes, there's been a bit of artistic life with what you're seeing on TV. We are very green in those situations of wrestling a sheep. But for me, that was the least important, the fundamentals behind that, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:59 exploring different schools, exploring how far away from the nearest hospital, how far away from your in-laws, all those decisions that you think, you know, can we make this work? So for us, a lot of research, my advice would be absolute, a lot of research. And then if you want to do it, if you're waking up at night
Starting point is 00:25:14 or in the mornings and it's just still, you want to do it. In your head. Absolutely do it. And you've got to just give it a go because I'd rather give something a go and fail and come up short than in 10 years' time or 15 years' time. Say, I wish I'd done that. I wish I'd have done that. Well, you know, you're always young enough.
Starting point is 00:25:31 If you're 20, 40, 60, if you want something bad enough, you've just got to go and make it happen. How do you feel, Liz? Yeah. I always steamroll you, don't I? I always say, we're doing this. Come on. And Liz is like, right, come on.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Yeah, I do have to buy into a lot of Kelvin's ideas but luckily some they're good ideas so if they were bloody good job I wouldn't just go along with anything he said you know I have said no to it yeah if he wakes up tomorrow and says we're joining the circus yeah exactly or if he wants to fly to the moon I'll say listen oh that. Oh God, I've given him bloody ideas now. She can't join the circus pregnant with twins. It's just not happening. It could be a feature. Well, if she gets as big as she reckons she's going to get, it could be a feature. The marvellous expanding woman.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Coming to see the world's biggest lady. If farming goes wrong for us, maybe that's what we'll do. Join the circus. Come back on the pod and tell us all about it. We can't wait. That'll be a whole other episode. Now, one of the circus. Come back on the pod and tell us all about it. We can't wait. That'll be a whole other episode. Now, one of the questions we always ask near the end is, guys, what's for tea and who's cooking?
Starting point is 00:26:32 Oh, tea. This is a... I saw a steak in the fridge this morning. Yeah, I'm not very good at doing a big shop. I'm not your typical wife that has tea on the table for everybody and it is a bit of a improvisation at tea time. It's not like your typical wife, we just delegate jobs and I'm
Starting point is 00:26:49 kind of managing everything outside. You don't really cook do you? So I say right, well your job can be just do the weekly shop Liz and then it gets to a point where I'm like, I'll do that job Liz because you always seem to buy coleslaw, a couple of bits of chicken. What Kelvin would buy and what i buy are two very
Starting point is 00:27:06 different things and kelvin has been threatening for 16 years that he's going to do the big shop and i'll say just go and do it then just i'm happy for you to do it he hasn't done it once in 16 years kelvin get out there and do that big shop come on he's done the odd one but he'll just get you know you don't need to when your partner says something and you think and you don't even need to say anything you're like come on you don't do a big shop like you come back with some random things when you go to the shop you have to admit that treats treat yeah just not not things that are useful and um and we are very different what we eat is very different and kelvin's been threatening, I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:27:45 So one time I left the fridge empty for as long as possible until I was starving and he just wasn't getting any food in that I liked. So I went back to doing the big show. So tonight for tea. So who likes what? So if Kelvin cooks tonight, what are we having? But if it's you, Liz, what are we having? Oh, go on, we'll see who's cooking tea today.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I just want ease at the minute because I'm so busy. So I've noticed that steak, so I'll probably do some rice with it and then just a load of veg, make sure we've got a load of peppers and broccoli and stuff in and just do a little bit of a stir fry. Really quite simple, you know, a bit of red wine, cook the steak and then get a load of veg going and on a nice bed of rice. Sounds nice. Right, Liz, what are you fancying? I love that. That sounds great. the steak and then get a load of veg going and on a nice bed of rice and you know sounds nice right liz what are you fancying i love that that sounds great so kelvin's cooking tonight and
Starting point is 00:28:31 kelvin's taking over the big shop yeah so he's gonna be a bit busy but we'll sure we're sure he'll manage now i don't know which one of you's gonna do this this might cause marital disharmony martin't it so i think we already just did that with the big shop question we always ask our guests at the end of the pod to imagine that you're tucking annie and i into bed like we're your kids and to sing us your lullaby who does the singing is it the person who does the big shop? It's me. I'm all about bedtime. I'm all about... Musical theatre. Of course it's you.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Oh, but I'd be like, we're doing a big show. We're doing a big show. And then Lizzie's very much, you've got to just... I'm all... From bedtime onwards, it's all quiet. It's meditation. It's calm. Kelvin's wrestling everybody.
Starting point is 00:29:19 And I like to tell the kids three amazing things about themselves. So that they go to bed with great thoughts. And I've got one little song that I sing to tell the kids three amazing things about themselves so that they go to bed with great thoughts. And I've got one little song that I sing to them both. Should I get Marnie to hear? Should we get Marnie to sing it? Yes. Yeah, come on. Do you want to come and sing the song that I sing to you at bedtime?
Starting point is 00:29:39 Come on then. Come round here. Quick, quick, quick. This is special. We'll sing it together in case you forget. So do you want to say, sing what song me and you sing at bedtime? One, two, three. I want to sing a song.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Everybody loves to close their eyes and rest their mind and went to sleep with his little boy. So close your eyes, dear mommy. Rest your tiny head. Mommy is here, there's nothing to fear. Close your eyes, my dream idea. Yay! Guys!
Starting point is 00:30:21 I love it. You're like the Von Trapps of farmy life. You know, I might record that and get it as a number one hit is that your own song? I made that up yeah she's multi-talented ladies and gents
Starting point is 00:30:34 multi-talented thank you we're going to love you and leave you to get on with your farmy life now good luck with the rest of the twin pregnancy
Starting point is 00:30:43 good luck with the lambing thank you good luck good luck good luck good luck with everything and thank the twin pregnancy. Good luck with the lambing. Thank you. Good luck, good luck, good luck, good luck with everything. And thank you so much for being such lovely guests today. We love you sharing your story with us. It's been great. Thank you for having us. Speak to you later.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Bye-bye. Bye.

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