The Netmums Podcast - S14 Ep8: Katie Price on motherhood and life in the spotlight

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

Welcome to another episode of The Netmums Podcast with your hosts, Wendy Golledge and Alison Perry. This week, we have an incredible guest who needs no introduction – the one and only Katie Price. Join us as we catch up with Katie about her life over the past three years, her journey with adult ADHD diagnosis, and her experiences as a mother to five children. Katie opens up about the changes in the entertainment industry over the last 30 years, reflecting on her career from the early days of magazine covers to the current era of social media influencers. She discusses the challenges and rewards of raising her eldest son, Harvey, as a single parent, and the unique dynamics of parenting children with complex needs. Katie talks about her recent ADHD diagnosis and how it has helped her understand and manage her impulsive behaviour. She shares her experience with IVF, her desire to have more children, and the importance of maintaining a healthy relationship with her partner, JJ. Katie touches on the impact of media scrutiny on her life and offers advice to newspaper editors on responsible journalism. She also reflects on the lessons she's learned from her past relationships and the importance of teaching her children about healthy relationships. From discussing her new book, "This is Me," to her future plans and aspirations, this episode is packed with honest and inspiring moments that you won't want to miss. Stay connected with Netmums for more parenting tips, community support, engaging content: Website: netmums.com / Netmums socials: @netmums / Facebook / TikTok / X  Series 14 of the Netmums Podcast is produced by Decibelle Creative

You're listening to The Netmums Podcast with me, Wendy Gollich, and me, Alison Perry. Coming up on this week's show... Obviously, I brought him up as a single parent, and in a way, for me, that's been the easiest. I always say to women, sometimes it's easier to bring him up on your own, especially if you do breakups and you're not sure about if you want to have a continual relationship with the guy. I've had no aggro with Harvey because no dad's been present. The other guys, aggro. Welcome to a new episode, everyone. Now, we're recording this in the week that is the kids end of term and I am done absolutely done with plays and with mufty days and with all the stuff that comes with end of term so I'm I'm checking out I'm done for

the week Alison how are you tell me your week's been better I love it you you need to have a little bit of energy left Wendy because we have got a good guest to chat to today we have I've kind of done two but having said that I had such a nice parenting experience um this week my 13 year old I took her to see Mean Girls the new musical that's on at the way in the West End and it was just like such I feel like this is like one of those parenting moments where it's like something from my past so I love Mean Girls when I think I I was a teenager. Maybe I was in my 20s when it came out. I don't know. And then something that my 13-year-old is just as into.

And then we went and had this amazing experience together. It was just like, this is what parenting a teenager is all about. People say that teenagers are hard. No, you won't believe them. So tell us who we've got on the pod today, please. Our guest today has parented three teenagers so far. So I think she might have a thing or two to say about it. Our guest today is Katie Price, business person, author, reality TV star and mum to Harvey Jr., Princess, Jet and Bunny.

We last had Katie on the podcast in 2021 so three years on we thought we'd invite her back to see what's new and there's a lot to catch up on um one thing which is new is katie's latest book this is me which is a no-holds barred utterly honest deep dive into the past 30 years in it she reflects really openly on the events that have shaped her life. Katie, a huge welcome back to the Netmums podcast. Well, well, well, hello, ladies. She's back. Hello, Katie.

Well, I'm back. And what a hell of a lot has happened in three years. Oh, yes. So let's kick off 30 years in the industry that is entertainment. That's impressive and it's pretty tough to work in that industry. How have you seen it change over those 30 years? Oh, my God. So I've had lots of conversations about this because when I started, when I 17 and boy I'm 46 now I can't believe I'm four years away from being 50 so I really have really have much been in the industry and

seen it change so much so for if there's any new listeners to this podcast of yours, bring yourself back 30 years ago, if you're old enough to do that. I was sweet 17, the covers of the magazines, when I say, like, they don't even exist, some of them now, but, like, Loaded, FHM, GQ, Front Magazine, I'm just trying to think, Esquire. So I was doing all, like, the men's mags.

And when I say men's mags, they're not, like, the top shelf mags. Like, men's mags, you know. And then it was newspaper stuff. There was no such thing as social media at all. I wouldn't even know that was going to even exist so 30 years on we're now in a world of social media where you get what they're called influences now that wasn't even a thing back then so now it the the spectrum of things is so so out there where people now have a voice you can now retouch your pictures you can now even not have to look like what you

do when you take a picture because you've got these apps now that can change everything it can even do your makeup your hair your body size to the point that are you really that person who you see in the pictures um and from that i think now the media have got now more damning in the way that the stories they write about people, they're not always the truth. And it can be so shocking because they need to be on form in a different way so they get clickbait to keep them relevant. So, yes, it has changed a lot.

It's given an opportunity for more people, you know, in the LGBT community, up and coming girls, you name it. There's a platform for absolute anyone out there. So it has changed a lot. Yeah, that's massive. And another thing that's changed is, you know, 22 years ago, you became a mum. How would you describe Katie the mum? And how different is Katie the mum today versus Katie the mum back when you first had Harvey? Well, I've always been a maternal girl, always, even from a young age.

I want to care for animals, like nurture. I'm a nurturer by heart. I'm a nurturer by heart. I'm a caring person by heart. Hence why I was trained to be a registered nurse before I entered this industry. And I've always said now, it's never too late, I want to train to be a paramedic, because I'm that caring kind of person

who's trying to fit that in the schedule. I am trained to be a life coach now because I've gone through so much. But me going back 22 years is when I had Harvey. And it was at a time when my career was taking off and I got pregnant. And I thought, well, this could be the end of my career now if I'm pregnant you know so I was doing the labs mags and all of that and I decided no I'm keeping Harvey so I had like a healthy pregnancy it was an amazing pregnant I was sick at the beginning I'm always sick I hate that this you know you make arrangements to do things and then you're in your fetal position in bed

i can't go out i can't do anything i feel sick i was sick in my handbag on the tube once that was a particularly awful when you get that sickness the nausea and and even if you're not sick it's the feeling of you're gonna be sick it's all So I don't envy anyone who's pregnant out there who goes through this sickness, because it's awful. And then half, even three weeks late, then I got induced. I don't think they do that these days, keep you that long, but they did back then. So I had it natural, and blimey, I didn't know what to expect. I was young.

I thought, yeah, I'll do all this. Had my playlist of music. I thought I I thought yeah I'll do all this had my playlist of music I thought I'd play you know all this but come the day I didn't play any of that music when then contractions got worse and worse and worse anyway I had Harvey and it was he was perfect obviously until he was six weeks old and then that's when the journey started that he was six weeks old. And then that's when the journey started, that he was born blind and then, you know, he's now got his complex needs. But he's 22 now and he's the most loving, well-mannered man.

I'm not allowed to call him a boy anymore because he goes, no, mum, I'm a man, not a boy, because I was calling my baby boy. He'll always be your baby boy. That's OK. He's the only one out of the older ones who will lie and want me to cuddle him, still stroke his head, hold his hand. I know he's a man, but he just loves me so... I am his absolute life.

And obviously I brought him up as a single parent and in a way for me that's been the easiest I always say to women sometimes it's easier to bring them up on your own especially if you do breakups and you're not sure about if you want to have a continual relationship with the guy. I've had no aggro with Harvey because no dad's been present. The other guys, aggro. So for me, being a single parent for Harvey has been a dream. I know he can be difficult because of his complex needs, but I'm the most patient person when it comes to kids. I'm chilled, laid back yeah and how's Harvey doing because isn't

he at a specialist college in Gloucestershire how's he getting on yes so well I say I'm getting on I do help a lot of people because obviously when I got told he was blind that was it it was like well what happens now and it was only by talking to other mums or parents that I learned more from that than you do the doctors of help where to go and stuff like that communicating with charities local charities who deal with kids with complex needs and um so from that yeah that's how that helped me. So now with Harvey, he needs what they call statementing. And there'll be a lot of parents out there who might have a child with autism or something.

And they do the ECHP form and help him do that. It's not easy. When you fill out these forms, you have to be spot on. So I'm at a stage now where Harvey's been at college for like three years and he's entitled to go to college and you have to do all your statement for that. And now they want to put him in just like independent living. And I'm like, well, he's not ready for that, especially not mentally because he's still like a baby. But now someone in the system has put in saying he's got no healthcare issues. And we're all like, are you joking? So we've appealed it.

Harvey is known and very much documented he has healthcare issues. It's to do with funding. So I know there might be a lot of parents listening to this going, oh my God, this is the same for me because you have to prove this prove that and it's yeah it's always a fight isn't it yeah so he is at college in Cheltenham he's there till April because we have appealed this saying how can you say he's got no health care needs and finding the next placement for him and when we do I would definitely move him more nearer home because he misses me I miss

him um yeah because he's like three four hours away from me so by the time I get there I'll spend like two hours with him and then it's time to come back the second whole day but you know that's just one of the one of the uh children the others are like teenagers the others are like under 10 so they're all at different ages all at different levels and i love it and i love the chaos and i love it and i want more kids well i was about to say you said you've got infinite patience you bloody need it i'm not patient with a lot of things, but when it comes to children, I've got patience. It's really weird.

Like, because I got diagnosed with ADHD last year, not even though I hate labels, but it makes sense to how I am as a person. And so some things, I'm like, no, I've got to do this now, do this now. But when it's the kids, I'm just so patient and chilled. Like, because I brought my kids up in the countryside, I suppose they've all been a bit feral as well. I'm the type of mum that if they want to go outside

and they just want to go outside in their pants, in welly boots and jump in a muddy puddle, let them do it. If they want to enjoy and do that, like, well, I've always had horses and that, you know, and they sit in the hay or they try and eat the goat's feed or the horse's feed. I did all that as a kid and I just let them do it, you know. If they want to push each other around in a wheelbarrow,

let them do it, you know. So, yeah, nature, I've brought them up. I don't know what it would have been like if I brought them up in a town environment because when I ever take them to London it's weird for them because there's so many like cars buildings it's just different they're used to countryside um and in a way for me I'm glad I did because I get so scared now, even of the old ones like June and Princess, because now they go to London. It's not them I worry about, it's other people.

The crime that goes on and that just petrifies me. Now, you know, June is driving. I worry about other people on the road. And now Princess is doing her driving test. I'm like, oh, my God, my little baby girl's now going to be driving. You never stop worrying about your kids at whatever age they are. a driving test i'm like oh my god my little baby girl's now going to be driving you get you never stop worrying about your kids at whatever age they are so is that one of the reasons you want to have another one because you're that your little babies are growing up you've said that

you plan on trying to have another baby haven't you yes well there'll be a program coming out soon about my IVF journey? Because although I might act young and look younger, my body isn't. My body's still 46. And I was talking to some of my friends the other day because sometimes at night I wake up and my bed is soaking wet, then cold sweats. And I'm like, what the hell is this this going on I still have my periods and that so maybe I'm pre-menopausal so I'm at that stage and I do want more kids but I didn't realize until

I did the IVF that when you're born you're born with a set of eggs and every period you have you know you get rid of eggs and stuff so mine are quite old now so it's whether it produces a good egg or not so I'm at that stage and it's like I know I've got five kids and people be like well you should be grateful you've got five I am grateful but I know myself I want more and I don't want to be told by a doctor or something that I can't have more so I'm looking into other journeys that if I want more how I can't have more. So I'm looking into other journeys that if I want more, how I can do that. Because I know I'm not done. I know I still want, if I could have two more kids, I would. Amazing.

And you're going to be an auntie again soon, aren't you? Because your sister Sophie is having another baby. What kind of auntie are you? Do you spoil your nephew at the moment? Do you know what? I absolutely love it. And I said, she's having a king's choice. She's got a boy and now she's got a little girl on the way.

But how she dresses her kids are different to me. Like with Prince, Bunny doesn't really like things now. But like with Bunny, it was all the tutus, the crowns, the crystals, the bling. And she's very, she's like old-fashioned Victorian. I'd like that for my sister. You know, like the Spanish, how they do it, the ombre. What is it? The ombre. Yeah.

Ombre glass, whatever they call it. You know that fabric? Yeah. I think we like old-fashioned-y. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to get a load of frills, this baby and stuff. And I've said she can use one of my old silver cross prams that I've got and I just can't get rid of them do you know when you've

got five kids I'm a hoarder and I hate getting rid of anything from their first shoes to socks to blankets I don't know what it is I've still got their belly buttons on the pegs to their hospital bands and I honestly I just love it all the whole journey so yeah I'm so excited to become an auntie again. So let's go back to you mentioned briefly that you had your ADHD diagnosis last year how has that diagnosis impacted your life and kind of of how does your, how does ADHD show up in your behaviour and in your day-to-day life? Well, all through my years, I mean, when I was at school,

there was never such thing as ADHD. Nothing. And I think there's a lot of people back when I was at school who might have had slight autism or ADHD, behaviour behavior problems but no one knew really anything about it and it was my mum who was like you've you're why do you act the way you do you why because your brother and sister aren't like this you know what is wrong with you

like my reactions to things and stuff like that and now it makes sense if I knew I had the ADHD well it was obvious I had something but no one knew what then it probably in the past I wouldn't have been got into trouble how I have and when I say trouble my reactions to things especially social media if an ex or someone said anything I'd put these quotes up or argue back or do something because that was how I it's the impulsiveness isn't it that's known to be like a thing with ADHD so you can't control impulsive behavior a lot of women my age because we are busy and we we can take on more than one task. Sometimes it can be hidden.

And there's a lot of people, a lot of older women who have got it and they haven't been diagnosed with it. So in the end, my mum's like, right, you need to go and see Dr Wibber. Can you win? I'm like, if it makes you feel happy, mum, I'll do it. So I went and saw the doctor three times took my dad to a place in Harley Street and they make your parents fill out forms from when you was a childhood and then they assess me and all of that it's quite a long process it's not quick

and I remember I was in Thailand having some tattoos done, which also my mum has a doubt me about now. My mum still doesn't know I've got mine. I'm 45. No, I don't. She doesn't know. And she doesn't listen, so we're fine. If it's not surgery, you've started with the tattoos now. Anyway, so I was on the phone to the doctor,

and I said, well, have I got ADHD or not then? He said, what do you think? I said, well, I know I'm nuts. I must have doctor and I said, well, have I got ADHD or not then? He said, what do you think? I said, well, I know I'm nuts. I must have something. He said, yeah, you have. You've got it severely. So, but the interesting thing is where I've moved house, because I keep everything, I have found my old school reports from junior school up through my senior school. And in every report on every lesson it's the same

thing she's capable of the work but she's easily distracted she can constant a lack of concentration all of this and it all makes sense so I think that's why a lot of kids nowadays do get assessed for ADHD and then you know how to do it for like now the way I've learned because I know about I've learned how to deal with situations now because I understand my reactions before aren't the right way to react with things say if I get a text message normally I'd be like right I just want to write that back and I'll write long long texts when really I think right Kate before you write back think about it think what you're going to do you don't have to reply back now and now I know how to deal with it I'm trying to teach my 13-year-old to do this, let alone anything else.

Don't just reply. Take a minute. But I now understand myself. And obviously I had a breakdown six years ago. And I mean, the whole book is about my mental health, dealing with the media pressures because they've got worse because I used to have a good relationship with them and learning not to react to things how I used to and my head feels so much clearer I'm lighter and more positive and where I know how to manage myself and doors are opening and I feel

refreshed like I've gone through a washing machine and now come out, reset the button. I now have the knowledge, the experience and the understanding of everything. So now it's like, yeah, I'm on a new journey again. It's like the new comeback for me. I might be 46, but that's just the age is just a number to me. It really, really is. And I don't think people should be scared going,

oh, I'm going to be 30 soon, or I'm going to hit my 40s or 50s. It's good to get older because you get knowledge. And at the time, you can go at any time. People always think you're going to die when you're older. You can die at any time. So I'm like, live each day as if it's your last, because you never know. So that's the way I live my life now and my kids yeah they all say

I'm nuts I'm chaos I'm crazy I'm fun I'm loving and I can't change my personality in the way I am but I know how to control my reactions to things and not be so impulsive because I can be ever so impulsive but it works for me now I understand myself therapy this that which is why now I'm training to be a life coach so I can help other people because I've been there done it I mean I am one person no one can't say I haven't had real life trauma events I really have and you just have to learn to deal with one thing at a time. So what do you think of the bigger kids following in their parents' footsteps, junior and princess, and working in the public eye?

What words of advice have you given them about it? It's interesting. There was yesterday an article. Now, I don't know if this is the real thing. Is it a NEPO baby or something they call it? NEPO baby. But what is a NEPO baby or something they call it nepo baby but what is a nepo baby because I read something about saying the Oliver is it like kids who get thrown in the industry on the back of their parents or did I read that wrong yeah so it's basically I guess

in the context of your kids it might be the fact that maybe junior and princess are getting work or getting jobs because they are your kids so it's like nepotism um basically anyone who any celebrity whose kids work in the industry um get called nepo babies not necessarily because it is nepotism but just because that's like a tag that they're given well i would like to disagree that with Junior and Princess. Let me tell you why. They have been brought up with camera. That's all they know. But they are generally, we are not pushy parents. So I'm not a pushy parent. I'm like, whatever my kids choose to do is what they choose to do.

Now, Junior naturally is a talented dancer, singer. He got his scholarship at school to do drama, acting. Like, he's talented. You can't make someone be a singer or dancer. You're either natural or you're not. So we always knew he would do something like that. And he doesn't. Like, if you look at his Instagram and that,

I don't even think there's a picture of me and him on it because he doesn't want to be associated. wants to do it himself wants to credit himself so he does that and then with princess you can't deny she's not pretty girl so she gets offered all this stuff no difference to anyone else and again she doesn't use us on her page or anything i don't go to events with her to be pictured to help her. Same with Junior. Like, they do it all themselves. Yeah, people might say in a headline it's their daughter or their son,

but you've got to give them credit. They're doing it themselves. Don't interfere. And I certainly don't make phone calls to get them jobs and that. They do it purely on their own, and that's what they want to do they're like no we want to do it ourselves not have any of your input that's really good though that's really nice i have to say they're at the age now where they're having relationships um and you talk in the book about all the different relationships that you've had over the years um what do you hope that your kids learn from all of your experiences as they kind of grow up and start meeting people themselves?

Well, this is another interesting question because I've finished a domestic abuse course because I didn't know what a healthy relationship was. From a young age, I've gone from the wrong kind of men. So I have been in toxic relationships, gaslighting, narcissists, mental abuse, physical abuse relationships. So I've had to learn what healthy relationships are, which is very foreign to me because I never realized in what kind of relationships I'm in. So now, luckily, when the kids are how they are, you know, you can't pick and choose who your kids are going to like, but you can help advise, like, what a red flag is or, you know. But you do learn not to interfere too much

because you know what it's like when you're younger and if you're into someone, you don't care what your parents say and you don't want them to go against you. You want to still be on their side but give them advice. There's just a way of how to do it. And remind your kids that you were young once. We know all the trick in the books of the craftiness. You know, we're not stupid, but I am very open with my kids and I say it as it is. is so and they do respect me for that

you have to be there as a parent you know they're going to get heartbroken you know you're going to have the Kevin and Perry moments oh she's telling me what to do like how's she gonna get and it makes me laugh because I was exactly the same with my mum. And at the end of the day, I hate to admit it, but my mum was always right. They always are. That's the problem. So how has that course you've been on helped? How are things going with JJ? Is it a different relationship now that you've done that course? Completely. So I met him while I was doing it.

And obviously he'd done maths, Married at First Sight. And on that show, it's weird because they do relationship stuff on that as well, on every aspect. So not only is it weird how he's done that journey on that show, yet I've been doing mine. So in this relationship, it's completely different to any relationship I've had in the way I don't need to rush to get married. I don't need to rush to have kids. Enjoy the moment. There's no rush for anything. As much as people are going to get married again, you have some kids.

I'm like, just let us enjoy what we're doing. And it works so well. Even my family like thank god for that kate you're taking your time and it's knowing what a healthy relationship is not having someone ringing you every five minutes where are you what you're doing prove you're there take a picture facetime me that is not healthy you know you are allowed to see your friends and I'm like oh you you don't mind if I see my friends it's like well no why would I mind I'm like oh because I'm just used to someone like when all of them the jealousy this and that it's weird to be with someone where

it's normal what they call normal healthy so it's me having to get you set because that's I've only been used to the opposite in every relationship that's really good to hear that's really good um and now you've said in the past that you think you've put princess off having surgery are you glad about that and how do you think you'd feel if she ever did want to have something done so I'm not being a hypocrite when I say this but I am a walking surgery lady and I love surgery and whatever I have done I tell everybody about it I think I don't know if that's the ADHD or what with me but I tell everyone I can't ever keep it in I'm like yeah I've had this done that that done. Oh, I'm going to have this done, that done. But genuinely, I started my face in my 40s.

But I know that I'd done my whole career natural apart from the boobs. And there was no airbrushing and all of that. It literally was how you see the picture. Now, I think girls, and i say to princess that girls are having fillers the lips the surgery from the age of i know i have my boobs on when i'm 18 but i'll come to that i'm not a hypocrite but they have all this filler and that they all look the same what are they going to look like when they're 46 it worries me because when i was 18

and that they didn't even have botox or if they did i didn't even know about that let alone pillow and stuff like that and i think because princess has seen people only see before and after pictures you they don't get to see really what happens in between when you look battered when you're sore you can't move this and that my kids have seen it so if that hasn't put them off then I don't know what will but princess is so like not surgery thinking in her head at all and she doesn't need it even though my mum said I don't I didn't listen but still princess isn't doesn't even talk about surgery she's happy how she looks so that's good I was just never happy so do you feel like your new house is a new start for you you've said in the past that and in the book as well that your mental health struggles contributed to you

being declared bankrupt and the eviction and does it feel like now this new place no bad memories oh my god from the moment I moved to that house the only reason I bought that house is because my husband at the time he had cheated on with two of my best friends. It was well documented and in my last book. And that good trail, and I knew where he had been in the house having sex. I had to get out of that house. So I literally bought this house and it didn't stop because the affairs carried on. The house was haunted and I'm not joking. It was haunted.

It was like... It was like, on my head, heaviness. People would come to that house. Some people wouldn't even go to that house because they hated the feel inside and everything. I think whoever buys that house, I would advise never buy it because the stuff I've had in that house is so extreme. And now not even going near that house is so light for me

like the eviction thing's nothing to do with the bankruptcy again I had bad luck in that house this man wanted to turn it into a wedding venue and turn my fields into a gallop sack and build my house on my tennis courts I then find out this guy's been in prison twice. If you Googled his name, he's been in prison twice. He's a forcer for doing what he's done to me, fly tipping. So I had to deal with the council and the mortgage company. They were like, you know, you've got to clear that fly tipping or we're going to have to get you out the house. That's where it all started. It's nothing do with the bankruptcy and then it's two years on I still hadn't done it so I had a choice of either doing it or me selling the house or them taking

the house back and then sorting it all out and I decided through all the crap I've gone through and I'm trying to better myself I said you know what you take it back you sell it you take what the rest that I owe you for the mortgage and then I get the it back, you sell it, you take the rest that I owe you for the mortgage, and then I get the rest back when they sell it. So that's the real situation of that. I think people think I've been evicted because of bankruptcy. No, bankruptcy's a separate thing to the house. But you know what the media are like.

They like to say, oh, she's now been evicted from her house from bankruptcy. The bankruptcy I've sorted out. Unfortunately, the bankruptcy started from my second marriage, you know, when you rely on your other half to help with the finances. Then I had to break down because of the situation I was in with the affairs and everything. And then I got depressed. And then when you're depressed depressed you don't answer your calls you don't communicate then you don't pay your bills on time this is and then before you know it

very quickly you're in this situation where you're in a mess you just everything's on you so and that's what happened to me so now I've engaged, communicated, sorted out the bankruptcy. They take a cut off my money, which is fine. It sorts it out. And I'm fine with that because now it gives me a chance to carry on with my life. I still earn really good money. And now my comeback's coming, you know, and I'm in control of everything. It's just the media like to go on about it. And I'm not ashamed of any of it.

If anything, it's made me learn and know never to let anyone or anything get me in a situation like that ever again. And you learn from it, and I'm not ashamed, and if there's anyone out there who are going through a bankruptcy, I get it. It's not a good time. It's a shit time. It is a shit time,

because then everything else feels bigger than it is. But if I got through it, I'm telling you, anyone can. Like having bailiffs turn up your door and you don't even know why. And then they come up with the same thing and you're like, well, I only paid that the other week. What are you on about? And it just becomes noise. And then at the end of the day, you've got to think you've got your family and friends. That's what important material really isn't important. Family and friends in your house is important.

And I've learned that, and I'm happy with that. So my new house, I'm loving it. No stress, no... And it's a brand-new house. I've never had a brand-new house in my life. I've always had these country houses with my horses. So now I no one's lived in it it's definitely not haunted and I'm kind of all myself and I love coming home putting my candles on and everyone has seen a change in me this is yeah and the other one was far too big for me. Nine bedrooms on three floors, too big, too big.

That's huge. You mentioned the media a few times, and in the latest book, you write an open letter to the press. And celebrities and the press have always had a bit of a tricky relationship. But having spent most of your life on the front page, what would your advice be to newspaper editors? Now, this is the thing. I love my job.

I love doing photo shoots. I love doing interviews. I love doing my reality shows. I love putting my life out there. I love it. But there comes to a point where don't take the piss out of me in the way that I know from talking to journalists from the past, that if a picture come in, I'd be the name where they can write anything.

Just write it, you don't need to check it. Whereas there'd be other celebrities, they would have to check with their managers that this... It's a lack of respect, isn't it? Yeah, there's absolutely no respect for me. They've crossed the line. They literally will write anything, anything. Yeah, there's absolutely no respect for me. They've crossed the line. They literally will write anything, anything.

I don't know what else they could write about me that's damaging unless I commit a murder, which obviously I'm not going to do that because I'm not a murderer. But they might as well have wrote I Am because the way they've portrayed me and really tried to manipulate me and bully me, this is all recent. Never used to be like that. And that's why I say I think the media now on everyone,

they are dreadful. Really bad journalism is what I would say. And, you know, I've lost a couple of friends in the industry. Caroline Flagg, and I knew that. Mike, who was in Love Island. They really don't help the media. And especially when they knew I was in my breakdown but still trying to antagonise me, it's cruel. It really is cruel.

And no-one deserves that. And like I say, I just want to get back up and do my press calls again and start a working relationship again, because I love what I do. do my press calls again and I start a working relationship again because I love what I do I'm an exhibitionist and I love it if you could go back to Katie who's just had Harvey and give her some advice to help make the last 20 years easier what would that advice be and would you give her a hug as well oh I've done that in therapy I had to look at myself on a chair if I'm a little girl what I would say I would definitely have gone back and said talk about because even with Harvey I never dealt with that impact of being told you

know to anyone that you because I've got cancer while I was pregnant with Harvey, in my finger, lear sarcoma, and I was like, yeah, just get on with it, nothing I've done, like, even from a young kid, I've processed, I've just got on with it, got on with it, so back to myself in my early 20s, I definitely would have said to myself, don't rush relationships, don't trust managers, don't trust it always have everything in writing make sure you own the copyright of your pictures um and find someone financially to guide you about tax vat even though i did have people then but obviously when i met the second husband it wasn't like that um just this is stuff that you learn when you're older

that i would advise myself when i was younger because there's if i knew a lot of the stuff then i wouldn't have been in the positions or situations i were in especially when it comes to relationships and stuff and managers um stuff like that that's such good advice i feel like that needs to be your next book just like life advice from Katie Price because I think a lot of us you've got to do a mental health life advice but there's so much like my private notes I put some of them in my book and my ADHD assessment in the book like how it was I want to put my private notes in it to show people how I was and what I was thinking at that time it's really scary to know I was like that and like that's why now like you've got social media and I do the

podcast with my sister weekly because I talk about a lot of mental health real life stuff and I like it that I get listeners questions about dilemmas and stuff like that. That's why I love, like, you girls. I love doing my podcast with my sister because it's real, not manufactured. It's exactly how we talk. So I know that we do help a lot of people and, you know, it's good. I love it. It's so good.

And I think that, you know, chatting to us today will definitely have helped a whole bunch of netmums listeners so thank you so much for joining us today kate it's been so fab to chat to you thank you i hope you've got a lot of your questions answered because i talk a lot oh it's good we love that thank you we had to cut about half of them so i'm sorry that's what most of them you don't said anyway thank you katie don't forget you can get in touch with us on all social channels instagram facebook tiktok just type in netmoms and you'll find us and if you liked what you've heard today we'd love for

you to give us a five star rating press the follow button and share the podcast on all your socials