The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #171 Former and Ladder
Episode Date: February 4, 2022Nikki gets a better description of Andrew trying to get gambling money from his family. It reminds Nikki of the "new friends" talk when something's up. They go over empathy before Andrew burps on comm...and. You Heard It Here First, something very obvious about wordle and why it's better to not talk in figures. Fanthrax messages about a Bestie scaring herself, a bananagram and a greeting from South Africa gives them all the swells. In the Final Thought, Andrew gets Nikki to explain how she would fight someone, physically. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Nikki Glaser Podcast.
The Nikki Glaser Podcast.
Here's Nikki.
Hello. Here I am. Welcome to the show. It's the Nikki Glaser Podcast.
It's the Nikki Glaser Murder Podcast It's the Nikki Glaser murder podcast.
No, we're not doing that. Don't worry. Don't worry. Normal show. Normal show.
Even though people liked it.
Yeah.
Welcome to Thursday's show.
I would say positive to negative, probably around 35 positive to 2 negative.
Oh, okay.
What did the negatives say? Isn't it funny that that's all i'm
focused on like what could you have said was it just like was it negative in the sense of like
it's a departure but i prefer you just get back to what you do yeah or was it like why would you
do this to us probably closer to the beginning thing not what's the ladder what's the the prior
oh i like this wait what i you can get there the former and the
latter is the latest yeah the former and the latter yeah do you think of like a ladder like
l-a-d-d-e-r that's a good question i want you i want to know what comes up in your head when you
think of the the ladder i would assume it's l-a-t-t-E-R. Yeah, like Latter Day Saints. Sure. I like the former day Saints.
I like...
I don't really like Saints.
What about the Saints?
Come marching in.
Wait, when the Saints went to the Super Bowl,
were you so excited?
Because you were in the islands.
I lived down there in the islands.
You want to get yourself a good Bloody Mary,
you go down to the Superdome
and you get yourself a Bloody Mary down there in the go down to the Superdome and you get yourself a bloody man down there.
Is the Superdome
redone?
No, it still got the water in it and everything.
No, there was no water in it. That's why they were there.
Yeah, they obviously
redid it. Were you there in 2005?
No. During Katrina? No, I graduated
in 2002.
From college? College, yeah.
Oh, you dodged it. Yeah, I i got out early i heard about it coming actually
i was there my freshman year there was a hurricane that hit near new orleans and i remember them
being like i remember we were at like the dorm and people being like you know the levee if it broke
the water would be up to the third floor here in our dorm and And everyone's like, yeah, right. Yeah, right, dude.
I'm doing bong rips, fucking blown into a Gatorade can.
What part of my bong would the water get to?
Because I need to fill it back up anyway.
It'd be fucking easier to hold my kegs
because then I don't have to use my arms.
I just use the water from the levee.
Yeah, it's much easier to do a keg stand when you're,
like, you know the way you do a handstand in water?
Yeah.
It's much easier to, like, do a handstand in water. Yeah. It's much easier to like do a handstand.
That'll be sweet when the floods come.
But everyone was just like, yeah, okay, whatever, dude.
And then literally.
Was it like September 11th for you where you like weren't really tuned into what was happening during that time?
And you were just like, whoa, woke up and all of a sudden everything's under water.
Like, or were you like, oh my God, what's going on?
I wasn't nervous at all.
I didn't think anything would ever happen to me.
You weren't like looking at like the places you used to live
and like being like, oh my God, that street.
Yeah, during Katrina, were you like,
because I remember during September 11th,
you were like, wait, what?
Well, September 11th.
You like don't even remember where you were
when you found out.
I do.
You're one of those people.
I remember where I was.
Oh.
I was in 3000 Calhoun in New Orleans.
That was the house.
Oh, you were in New Orleans.
I was down there.
No, no, no.
And I had a wristband on because I was still drunk and probably four or five stamps.
And I woke up and I was like, what happened?
And I didn't even really put it together that my brother lived in New York.
Oh, my God.
I was just like, fuck, dude, that sucks.
And then I went back to sleep, and then they're like, dude,
another tower got hit.
And then I was like, what?
And then, like, six months later, I called my brother.
I'm going to get fucking Wendy's.
Six months later, I was like, oh, my God, Dan lives there.
That is so funny. When did it really, I was like, oh my god, Dan lives there. That is so funny.
When did it really click in, Dan?
Later that day, I guess.
You're such a piece of shit.
Yeah.
I called him.
I was like, dude, can I borrow 400 bucks?
And dude, are you all right?
You hear screaming people in the background.
He's like choking up dust.
I was like, can you get to a Western Union?
Wait, did he ever go to Western Union to wire your money?
Did you ever go to a Western Union?
I've never been to a Western Union, but I did.
During my gambling addiction, I got money from a lot of different people.
How would you get it like
you were saying that the other day a little bit of how you would wait until the clock struck 12
like cinderella yeah i click my just biting your time and you didn't have a smartphone in those
days i'm like what the fuck were you doing walking around bourbon street oh i don't even know without
any without a penny to in your pocket what were you doing with your time?
Twiddling those thumbs?
I twiddled a lot of thumbs.
Is that what happened to them?
Did you twiddle them?
I twiddled them off.
Yeah.
I mean, look.
These alien thumbs right here.
That's freaking gambling addiction.
That was before cell phones.
Don't get into gambling.
If you think gambling's fun, look at these.
Wait, tell me.
Call me and try to get money from me. And I'm the person that, like, who's the weirdest person?
You be my stepmom.
Who's the, like?
Be my stepmom.
Really?
Yeah, that'd be funny.
Is this someone you were?
Because I didn't want my dad to know.
Okay.
I was like.
Hello?
Ring, ring.
Hello?
Hey.
Wait, give me some, like, character.
My stepmom, she's.
Her name's Jeannie.
She lives down in Florida.
She's from Pennsylvania.
She's a little southern, but she doesn't sound southern.
Is she a chipper person?
Is she mean?
Somewhere in the middle.
Okay.
Hello.
Not bad.
Hey, Jeannie, what's up?
Hey, Andrew.
I'm just going to tell my mom.
So what's going on? How's everything going down there?
Things are good. What do you need?
I was just seeing how Jake is going. How's Jake doing?
Jake's good.
Jake, yeah.
Jake.
Yeah, your son.
Yeah, I said Jake's good.
Yeah.
And Jay.
Yeah.
Jay's good too.
Cool. Yeah, Jake. But Jake's here. Do And Jay. Yeah. Jay's good, too. Cool. Yeah, Jake.
But Jake's here.
Do you want to talk to him?
Hey, Jake.
No, no.
I just want to talk to you for a minute.
Oh, okay.
Well, how are you, hon?
I've been good.
How's college?
College is good.
Studying and everything.
Is everything okay?
Well, I don't want to.
I mean, are you guys, are you alone?
I mean, I got Jake here, but I can go in the other room. Are you okay? So, I don't want to I mean are you guys are you alone? I mean I got Jake here but I can go in the other room.
Are you okay?
So
I don't know
this is embarrassing
but
I
I spent like
like $600
last night
like gambling
on Blackjack
and like
and
I don't have money
to pay rent
and I know
it's
I just
I want to go to my
I want to go to dad but I just I don't know I just pay rent. And I know it's, I just, I want to go to my dad. I want to go to dad, but I just, I don't know.
I just feel really uncomfortable.
And I was wondering if maybe you could tell me.
Didn't we have the same call yesterday?
Where did the money go that I gave you for rent yesterday?
Now is this money going to go to rent?
I can't promise you.
The musical?
I'll buy you tickets to it.
You know, I don't like AIDS.
Jeannie.
I mean,
that's pretty much what the call was.
It was just like me trying.
So you would lie and say,
can I get this for rent?
And then you would just go take it to the casino.
No,
at that time I actually really didn't need rent money,
but I did tell her why I was short.
Cause I did.
Yeah. Yeah. And would she she would she understand the gambling was she she was actually really cool about it but i think part
of it was she wanted to be my good graces so i kind of i you i used her vulnerability of wanting
to be the cool stepmom yeah because she probably wasn't in that position given the circumstance. And so interesting.
We all use different people's like,
there's a bartering system of like,
I'm going to give you the opportunity to help me out
because I know that you want me to like you.
Yes.
Interesting.
Pretty much, probably at that time.
Also, it's funny too when you have like,
before you ask for something to small talk
before oh it's just so funny it's always just like so what's the weather oh man is tommy doing good
oh by the way i need a new kidney dude in you know my relationship just having that kind of
new small talk of going like when something's up like we
need to talk about something and it's like the small talk before just going new friends what's
this new friends thing because it's it's new friends yeah you know like we talked about it
before if you missed that episode there's like this when you have something else on your mind
either something you're asking for something you like need to confront someone about or admit to or whatever it is something fraught you have this like tone of like hey what's going on and like you just know
the person is doing something weird they're like let's say the person needs to confront you about
something so they're mad at you but they're like faking like how's it going yeah oh my god so how's
like the snowstorm treating you and you're, new friends, let's cut through this.
There should be a shorthand for instead of, what's going on?
Because that's a little confrontational, just going like, this feels a little new friends to me.
Because you talk to your new friends like that.
That's why we call it new friends.
And the people you're usually confronting with that tone, it's not someone you talked like that if there wasn't something going on.
It's like, what, are we in an elevator now?
Do I not know you for seven years? What are we doing? Yeah, that's good what are we in an elevator now do i not know you for seven years what are we doing that's good are we in an elevator
right now you could go what floor what floor are we going to yeah what's going on here should we
hit the door close button because someone we don't want to talk to because we actually really
like each other and we should get through this yes coming on god it's so complex people's it's
got to be tough though because like you do analyze everything you
know yeah you're very good analyzer like you can tell yeah really though like within like three
seconds of a tone i can tell in text that's wild though but you've gotten it wrong sometimes with
me but i'm just saying that it could be exhausting if i'm not trying to be but
like if like dating you knowing how good you are at that i am if it comes up too much i gotta say
i am so fucking good but i need i should be a detective i'm not even getting you like the
murder podcast the other day let's set that aside whatever like i like i i could totally solve that case if you just let
me think about a little bit longer for sure um it's the third mary morris is who killed the other
two there can only be one in the houston area you go to the other mary morris and you find out who
that is of course because there can only be one highlander um i've never seen highlander i just
know that that's a thing that they say for that. Former. Former.
Ladder.
Ham drip.
Don't go under it.
Bad luck.
Yesterday on set, though, I did see a guy going under a ladder a bunch to get through a shot.
You know what I mean?
Like walk through.
Yeah, how do you feel about those things?
Superstitions.
And I was like, oh, my God.
Open an umbrella to go under or something.
Like hit two bad luck things at once.
Oh, wow. He had an umbrella on inside
no oh wait it was outside so never mind i wouldn't have done it bring a black cat have a black cat
go with you oh you mean two negative cancel out break a mirror step on a crack underneath an
ladder yes let's do that who fucking comes up with these things but i'm good you're right it
would be exhausting dating me.
You know what it is?
Other than the exhausting thing.
I just thought the ladder thing is to protect kids from walking under.
Like it's all for protection.
It's the same reason why we're like, oh, there's nothing dangerous about walking under a ladder
compared to like just walking by a ladder is dangerous because.
But if you tell a kid it's unlucky, they won't do it. Rather than you might get hurt.
Yeah.
That's like hold your breath around a grave when you're having a graveyard.
That's so like people don't breathe.
How many people die doing that?
Breathe in death.
It's probably like you get dead bodies like in your lungs.
Oh.
Back in the day when we didn't like bury them enough.
Because you could smell the dead bodies maybe?
Maybe.
But dead bodies maybe maybe but holding your breath past a bunch
of dead bodies was probably a way to like prevent disease back in the day maybe an umbrella inside
that can poke an eye out yeah yeah breaking a mirror is just not cool to do because i really
liked that mirror and now you ruined it dude these are all really like black cat
crossing one yeah that's like just so your kid doesn't
bring back an animal to be like can we keep it and you're like get that fucking
okay that's give it to noah that's a good thing no i just think like yeah
yeah no a lot of these things are to protect people like holding your breath did you ever
do thumbs up around like
thumbs up going to heaven past the graveyard no no i just thumbs upped it because i was like these
people suck but they're dead i gave a little siskel i just did that anyway i remember in school
when we would take a bus from brooklyn to manhattan to go to like a museum and like i don't know fifth
grade or something,
all the kids would say,
Oh,
if you hold your breath through the tunnel,
you'll have good luck.
And we had,
and like,
we all tried to hold our breath through the battery tunnel.
Dead kids on the time you get to the city.
Yeah.
What about traffic?
Yeah,
exactly.
It would,
it was the stupidest thing.
There is something cool about being able to hold your breath a really long time in pools.
That used to be a whole chunk of an hour of playtime at a pool.
It was just like, who can hold their breath the longest swimming across or whatever.
Yeah, Houdini made a whole career out of it.
Yeah, because it's just an impressive feat.
It's death-defying.
Yeah.
It's not really death-defying when you're in a three-foot pool.
Wait.
We did this on the podcast before of how bad I am at exhaling.
Or no, inhaling.
Inhaling.
I have no inhale.
Yeah.
But my exhale is like fucking strong as shit.
I still don't understand what's going on there.
It's really mind-boggling.
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
And I'm the opposite.
Back to you saying it would be exhausting dating me because i am so i mean i think it was a compliment
it is a compliment you're so smart i think what's your vibe yeah it is that that is the vibe i'm
definitely putting out there i just protect yourself yeah to protect myself from getting
fired and needing to get a new job i'm getting back in real estate where i let my license go um and then i have to call my stepmom
for 600 you on a raft like tom hanks with wilson letting your license drift off
that really crying that was such a sweet scene where he cries
because Wilson the volleyball drifts off.
That was so sweet.
I know.
I wish he had other balls on the island.
It would have been fun to see a basketball.
I love that movie.
And then he shows back.
Doesn't he come back and she's like,
yeah, I'm over you or something?
No, she wasn't over him,
but she moved on because she thought he was dead
and she married Mr. Big, who's raped a bunch of people. In the movie? In the like, yeah, I'm over you or something? No, she wasn't over him, but she moved on because she thought he was dead and she married Mr. Big who's raped a bunch of people.
In the movie?
In the movie, yeah.
Wow.
It's heavy.
Exhausting dating you.
I think it would be,
I think if every day you're like a detective,
like sometimes you just gotta turn your detective brain off.
Well, I gotta say.
I'm not saying that you do it every day. I'm saying though, like detective like sometimes you just gotta turn your detective brain off well i gotta say that you do it every day i'm saying though like detective brain but i'm also not i trust
people that like uh are i if i i've never thought someone was cheating on me or like i'm not like
that like what's going on here wait let me see. Like, I'm not one of those girls.
So I know when there's some, I know when someone is upset with me and I can probably trace to how the, why the person's upset.
Yes. And I can trace who it came from and what it is and where it started.
I can generally know exactly what's going on. I just know, especially if someone's mad at me
or someone is mad at someone else,
I'm really good at going,
dude, that person was mean to you
because they felt threatened when this thing happened
and they're taking their,
I can kind of trace that.
Now, do you feel like though,
if you're a trace at acting scene things
and you tell yourself this story before
because sometimes I'll tell my story. I'll tell the story already before I even hear
this story. I'm so fixated on knowing exactly what's happening without even hearing from
the other person yet. It's like a wordle. I like to make a guess. And then when it's
finally revealed, if I got it right, I'm OK. What if you get it wrong, though? If it's green, green, black, black, yellow, I'm okay.
I'm like, well, I got three greens.
That's true, but if you get it wrong, then the person on the other end doesn't want to feel like they're getting analyzed,
where then they're like, no, that's not what's happening.
Why are you putting that on this?
I don't know.
I just think it could be it could be tough i think you're speaking from yourself
not even from a potential like you get exhausted by me going like i think it was because you did
this and this and this oh i wasn't talking about our friendship i think you do that to you sometimes
where i think i know what's going on yeah you do it you've done it much less though yeah yeah because you know that i don't love it
yes i just keep my suspicions to myself now and i tell other people it is funny when like someone's
doing it a lot and then they just stop doing it and you're like wow they must have grown and
they're like no i just don't no no i write it down in a journal i honestly don't i never chose
to stop doing that i think it just naturally stopped i
really i really it doesn't come up like there was something another day that i was like you seem
lighter on your feet for some reason i don't know what it is about and maybe i have you wrong but
other than you know looking despondent when you're playing guitar but you do seem lighter on your
feet i don't know what it is you're saying i lost weight i think lighter on my feet i don't know um i think i've realized that um uh when you're like it's
i don't know i think i've slowly realized that when you're in a bet when i'm in a bad mood or
if when someone's in a bad mood how much it affects me being around someone in a bad mood or when someone's in a bad mood how much it affects me
being around someone in a bad mood
that when I'm in a bad mood
I try to like not
have that ripple effect
because it's just
it's not like my bad moods are different than other people's
bad moods I know how I feel in the wake
of someone else's mood
even if they're not in a position
of power but so often i'm in a
position where i'm like the fucking one on whatever that that yeah i'm in a position of power so
everyone's affected by that and like you can i can still be in a bad mood but it can be the type
of bad mood where i'm like i'm just sad today i'm sorry i'm going through this and like it has
nothing to do with you guys it's just like I'm on my period,
like whatever.
But when you're just taking it out on others
and you want to drag everyone down,
it's just,
I know how much I resent that person
when it's happening
that I just don't want to make people feel,
I don't want to be the source of that.
So I think that I just try a little harder
to like just be honest about what I'm feeling
instead of being around people that are
shitty and being like,
how uncomfortable is this?
Jesus Christ.
Gotcha.
So like exposure therapy.
And I think I used to be around that and just think,
Oh,
their bad moods different than my bad mood.
When I'm in a bad mood,
I don't do that to people.
But the thing is I'm not,
I'm no different.
I'm the same way. Like we all operate on that. Not, I'm not going bad mood, I don't do that to people. But the thing is, I'm no different. I'm the same way.
Like, we all operate on that.
I'm not going to say we all do, but so often I think when you're feeling sad or, like, you just want other people in it with you.
I always used to want other people to feel how sad I was because I wasn't getting my needs met in terms of like, I'm sad right now.
Yeah. And people are going, oh my gosh, like empathizing, being like, I've been there. And
like, that would, I would feel really sad in your position too. So instead of, because I wasn't met
with that and it was just like, what are you sad about? Stop this. It was like, okay, well, if you
aren't going to try to feel the way I feel, I'm going to make you feel the way I feel. And you're
going to be just as sad as I am.
So you understand how bad it is.
I think that's why people commit suicide.
I really, I think that for me,
whenever I have suicidal ideations,
it is because I want to let it be known how sad I was.
I want people in retrospect to go,
whoa, we didn't believe her.
That's really, whoa.
Because you wouldn't do that unless you were really struggling., we didn't believe her. That's really whooshed. Because you wouldn't do that unless you were really struggling.
And we didn't believe her.
It's kind of a fuck you to everyone.
There's a little bit of that.
There is obviously an escape from the pain that is your everyday depression or whatever it is.
But there was something in me to go, now they'll know.
Yeah.
Because they didn't know before.
They weren't listening.
I couldn't express it.
There wasn't even a chance and the thing is if they can't know when you're crying in bed all day
and being depressed they're not gonna know when you kill yourself either because there's not
they they'll just they'll just go oh it was some medicine she was on or oh it was like I said
yesterday about the team the Miss USA. They'll excuse it another way.
I think that's an interesting thing that I've realized is like when someone is
ignoring your needs and you've been make them very obvious and then you do
something where it's like now they'll know.
No, they won't.
Like I was thinking the other day.
It's like it goes back to speaking in code of like speaking in elevator.
It's like you're you think you're putting off such a bad
mood or such a whatever to have the other person understand rather than hey this is what i'm going
through right now let's just and then like that could cut through so much bullshit but sometimes
people aren't capable of understanding ever or having empathy yeah like i was thinking about
this guy i used to be into. And I remember he...
Should we go to break first?
Let's go to break and I'll tell you a little tale.
Yeah.
Are you talking about my asshole?
Yeah, a little tale.
It's not a little.
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I was thinking about this.
I think this could actually help some people because it's helped me a lot.
Yeah.
Like, I remember there was this guy I really liked and he was like with this other girl, but he like was cheating on her with me.
This was forever ago and i remember thinking like she's not well and he'll see
how unwell she is and he'll leave her for me eventually especially after she found out about
me she did some weird wacky things and i was like this is clearly and she's he's he's he already
wasn't happy with the situation because he cheated on her with me.
And I knew he was unhappy.
Now that she's doing this weird stuff.
Now he's going to, he's going to see, I mean, this is, this is bad.
And he didn't break up with her.
He's still, I'm waiting, I'm waiting.
I'm like, okay, well, maybe it just hasn't gotten bad enough. And then something really bad happened where she was very unhinged
and did something that you go, you can't possibly stay with her
after this fucking moment.
And I wait because I wasn't talking to this person anymore
because I said, hey, I don't want to talk to you
until you don't have a girlfriend,
even though I had already done the horrible deed
of involving myself with a man with a girlfriend,
I said to him, you know, is that a point where I break up with her or don't talk to me?
And so I'm waiting because I'm like, clearly after this, he is going to leave her.
But of course he didn't.
Because if you tolerate the microaggressions all along,
that person can tolerate anything.
You think that they're going to get to a breaking point or like oh she'll leave him after he hits her or she hits him or after she fucking keys his
car you think that that'll make him if he's willing to tolerate all the stuff underneath that
if you're when when when someone knows're willing, that's when men hit women
is when they've been such dicks
all throughout
and they know.
And they get away with it.
They don't know,
no,
but subconsciously they know.
This woman has put up with
so many of me
just slightly hitting her verbally
that when I decide to hit her
and let myself lose control enough
to fucking smack her,
she's not gonna leave. Because if someone's willing to put up with that much abuse.
So that's what it made me realize is like people don't,
you're,
I don't know why it connects back to the thing,
but if you're waiting around for someone to change or forget for it to get bad enough for someone to go,
fuck.
And listen,
I believe in bottoms of like this i
can't do this anymore but i think that's people like there was another example of some guy yeah
that is like this guy that i know cheats on his girlfriend like crazy and she doesn't know but
let's be honest it's been years and years. She's got to know.
And then it comes out like, oh my God, he has this separate family.
And someone I know knows about like, this guy has a separate family.
And his girlfriend doesn't even know about this separate family.
There's a part of this, you know, my friend's like, there's a part of me that just wants
to tell her about this separate family, even though it's none of of my business just so she'll know and she'll finally free herself
from this guy it won't matter she knows if she doesn't care about all the other stuff the big
that's not gonna matter either when you I'm sure there are people like in their cars right now
listening to this going like oh yeah when I thought that final thing would do it,
it doesn't do it.
Or like if you're dealing with someone
who's addicted to something and you're like,
oh my God, they got a DUI, finally they'll quit.
It's gonna take more than that.
It is interesting too, like until sometimes they get caught
and like other people know about it,
like if you know that they're cheating,
you could kind of like lie to yourself and be like they're not really cheating but once like you know a stranger finds out oh
i saw tom with pamela at the store together kissing then you're like you were cheating
it's like no you kind of you knew you knew i have a friend too. I have another friend. Same situation where their boyfriend clearly knows that she fucks other people.
But they don't talk about it.
And there's no mention of it.
Whoa.
And it was going on for years.
I just keep saying whoa.
But he knows that when she leaves, things go on.
He turns a blind eye because that's just the that's their arrangement.
And he honestly is with her for other reasons that he doesn't care truly.
But when his friends found out about her doing it, that's when it became non-negotiable.
Can't do this anymore.
And how interesting is that that that's what matters.
And that's why I think being open about an open relationship
if you are okay with your husband or wife fucking someone else being okay with it you got to be okay
with it publicly because it might get out and you should be able to be okay with everyone is into
different things and if that's something that you're okay with like i understand wanting to
keep things private and like hey don't make't make like, like Justin Timberlake,
people kind of accused him of like slipping on there.
No negotiation.
Like probably Jessica Biel and him had an agreement with like,
yeah,
go hold hands with this girl on a balcony while you're shooting.
I don't give a fuck.
or fuck her in the trailer.
Don't hold hands.
When the paparazzi caught it,
it's embarrassing to me.
Yes.
But you can fuck her in the trailer.
And you got sloppy.
Yeah.
Which,
you know,
I just think that's interesting that we care so much about what other people think more than what we think.
Well, going back to the thing about, like, wanting other people to, like, understand your sadness or, like, I have a thing where, like, sometimes if I'm in a bad mood, maybe I'll want someone else to know that I'm angry or sad, but then I also don't want the sympathy from them either.
I don't want them to be trying to help me either,
but I also want them to know at the same time.
That's a weird thing.
I think I want to know what, because I love sympathy.
I've been, did I say it on here?
No, I was saying it on some other
um show i was doing i love someone to go like oh you really do like that i hate that i don't know
why anya hates pity yeah you hate pity i love it okay i love when someone's like i really am so
like you poor thing like someone like rubbing my back and going like you, it's empathy really. Like it's not pity of like,
Oh,
look at how sad you are.
You're a little sad boy.
Aren't you baby boy?
Wait,
wait.
It's not that it's like,
man,
I am so sorry for what,
like,
you don't like that.
If it feels like,
I guess,
yeah,
I guess that if it doesn't feel patronized,
like if it does,
my thing is,
is like sometimes people I feel like will be like, oh, you're sad.
Like in a way of like, I'm never sad, but I feel bad for you.
You know what I mean?
Like there's like a way.
No, that's not empathy because empathy is saying like.
They don't say that, but I'm just saying like.
But true empathy is saying like, if I were you, man, I would feel that sad too.
Like it's like, it's saying like not coming from me, like, oh my God, I would be sad if I were you man I would feel that sad too like it's like it's saying like not coming from me like oh
my god I would be sad if I were you it's like if given you what you're going through man you should
feel this way and you're okay to feel this way like like when your grandma died like all I can
say is like I'm so sorry that you're like that must be really fucking hard I'm so sorry like
that's not me going no no no and you know what i mean you know what i like i like when and i know you can't like
you can't tell someone how to help you grieve or whatever but yes you can if i okay well you can
help you can help people because i was really bad at when people's parents would die or someone that
i remember like if i would have like an anxiety attack I would
just stop talking to them I think in the past with our friendship I would ghost them like their dad
I really would because I would be too nervous well I would have an anxiety attack I remember like
back in the day like when I left the theater or whatever like why I don't understand how you can
be anxious and then you'd be anxious about something I'm like yeah that wasn't empathy that was me being like if i were you i wouldn't be this way i know i know but then but
what i'm saying though is like the way that would really have helped then and not just from you but
from like anyone is going oh someone else is having an anxiety attack why don't you think about the
time you had an anxious attack and then you go this is how i felt when i went through the same
thing empathy of like that's
the best that's what i like that's i mean the way you're describing it sounds like it's the not the
empathy because it's like when i feel anxiety but it is the same as empathy because you're thinking
not to try to make it about yourself but just but just saying like to relate i know an anxious
feeling and if i were him right now feeling the way that I felt when I'm most anxious like when
I'm driving on a two-lane highway and the person is drunk or something like that's oh shit like
in that circumstance now I would just be like I'm so sorry that you're feeling this way what can we
do I've been there before fuck that's the worst I totally get it like I don't get it but I get it
yeah yeah yeah for sure I was just like a totally diseased, deranged person back then
who was just like, why are you so upset?
I mean, I don't think I said it like that, but I was just like.
No, it was worse.
I actually.
No, I'm kidding.
I made fun of you for it, and it wasn't kind.
No, it's fine.
But you know what?
I like getting made fun of for things too,
but it was just like, I think like there's times when it's just like, oh.
No, when people go, but I wouldn't feel this way.
Why are you feeling that way?
Yeah.
That was my whole childhood.
My dad does not have any capability of being like,
and if there's nothing,
it's not bad about dad.
If you're listening,
I still love you,
but man,
you do not understand how other people could feel different than you would in
the circumstance.
It's just,
it's not in his,
it's the part of the brain that made it so he could understand that there are other people with different experiences. His dad might've been that way with him. Yeah. It's not in his, it's the part of the brain that made it so he could understand
that there are other people
with different experiences.
And his dad might have been that way with him.
Yeah, it's empathy
and you have to actually learn it
from your parents giving it to you.
And his dad died when he was 11.
This is all very good discussion
and we,
what was that?
Sorry.
I have to say that we've had some technical issues
and I want everyone to know
that during one of the moments that we stopped
and I don't want the team that's editing this
to use this against me later,
like in a jinx way,
but we were sitting down the mic
and it's definitely recorded.
Like they'll hear it
if they're using the audio from this
because the audio kept going.
I farted,
which I can do in front of Andrew.
So I'll hear it. And you'll hear it. i farted which i can do in front of andrew so i'll hear it and
you'll hear it i farted and andrew goes sorry like he like and i go did you just apologize
for my fart and he goes no wait what and i go i just farted and you said sorry and he goes no i
i was apologizing because like all the technical issues. Like he's like, he was just empathizing.
Like, man, sorry, we're dealing with this, which I don't care.
It's fine.
I have nowhere to go.
But I thought he was apologizing for my own fart.
And then he go, what did you say?
You go talk about empathy.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, there's nothing more empathetic than someone else farting and you apologizing for it.
One of my favorite things my mom does, and I love it more than anything, is anytime she burps,
literally, it is literally
like saying, God bless you, after
someone sneezes. It's just automatic.
It's like when someone hits a foul ball and you go,
come down, now, now, now. Come down, now, ma.
It's like, you can't help it. It's just
what you do. She burps and
she'll go like, can you burp on command?
Yeah, easily. Do it.
Nikki.
So do it again so that pretend it's ej she'll blame it on someone else right away so funny it's a great defense mechanism
my mom right away and another one my mom does all the time is uh tell me i have something in my teeth
um nikki you have something in your teeth i like I like it there. It just immediately makes you feel stupid about it.
But she's not doing it to do that.
It's just my mom's really funny.
All right, let's get to the news.
Has your mom ever farted in front of you?
Yeah, but it's not something she likes to do.
My mom only farted one time in front of all of us.
Oh, my God.
And she goes, I lived alone too long.
It's great.
Your mom is hilarious.
That's hilarious.
Oh, now I'm burping so much because I burped once.
Can you burp on command, Noah?
No, I can't.
Yeah.
Liar.
Wait, hand me that straw over there.
You heard it here first.
Yeah, you heard it here first.
You heard it here first, folks.
It's Thursday.
You know what that means.
It's Thursday.
We've had some technical difficulties, but we're still having all the swells because
we have a day off today.
Your boy's playing golf, and Nikki, I believe, is getting a pedicure.
What are you wearing?
My golf clothes.
It's going to be hot out there, boy.
No, it's 70 degrees today.
Oh, okay.
Your boy checks.
All right.
A Brooklyn-based engineer who
created wardle sells the brain teaser that has taken the world by storm to new york times for
a seven figure sum i'm trying to do the thing where you blow a straw into your armpit it makes
a fart sound i saw it on tiktok or i saw it on reddit that was on tiktok but it didn't work oh
i got a cavernous uh sorry me too i was
gonna fart can you fart with your armpit no sometimes it does it like accidentally and i'm
so embarrassed you know um okay wordle obsessed with name's warder right wardle and he named it
wardle right do you think maybe he did that because his last name is
wardle and it's not a coincidence since he named it That'd be like naming a baby your dad's name and going like,
isn't it a coincidence that my baby has the same name as me or my dad?
I know, it's wild.
Well, let's just throw Junior on because that is so random.
Wardle Junior?
Do you get it now?
Yes, I do.
Okay.
But it's such a catchy name that it just happened to be his last name,
which is still kind of wild.
You know what's ironic is that he created a word game
that is so close that his name is Word.
Okay, got it.
If that was your point, that makes sense.
It wasn't.
I wish I could empathize with whatever happened in your brain.
There's not much going on in here.
Okay, Wardle admitted, not the game, him,
that releasing only one game a day was intentional i love this it was intentional to avoid addiction that comes from
other games because he's worked for tech companies he knows how to make things addictive but here's
the thing he didn't want to use his powers he made this extremely addictive by doing that but
it's once a day it's bad i'm not saying it's bad but i'm not saying it's bad, but I'm just saying you get one fix,
which is the opposite of everything.
Listen, if that worked,
Mark Zuckerberg
would be doing it.
Everyone would be doing it.
If what he did
worked to make it addictive,
it's not.
Something that you play
once a day,
that does not allow
addictive behavior
because it's only
once a day.
If you could only smoke
one cigarette a day,
by law,
no one would be addicted. You would just do it once a day. Yeah you could only smoke one cigarette a day, by law, no one would be addicted.
You would just do it once a day.
Yeah, you might talk about the cigarette
with other people and share experiences
about how cool it is to smoke that cigarette a day,
but it's not making,
it's actually bringing people together.
I'm talking with my friends about the game.
It's making me laugh with my friends.
It's making me and Chris have something
that we share every single day
while we're long distance
that makes us laugh. Yesterday we talk like yesterday the words
spoiler alert for world go ahead 30 seconds on the podcast if you haven't played yesterday's
puzzle but actually yesterday's over it was moist and
that's funny but my point my point isn't that it's addictive
like you're on it all the time well that's what addictive means no it doesn't
yes it does you could be addicted to something
and only do it once a day.
No, no, no, you can't.
Yeah, you can.
No, you can't.
Addiction.
People, if they didn't get word,
if you didn't get word all tomorrow,
you would be upset
because you're addicted.
Maybe it's a smaller addiction
because you're not on it all the time,
but it's an addiction.
I mean, I understand
if you have obsessive thoughts about something that you would get once a day
but no one's having obsessive thoughts about wordle and if they are they've got other issues
that are going on this isn't about wordle but i'm just saying that that his i've been addicted to
crossword puzzles and those are endless and i've during the pandemic when things were shut down and
i didn't have a podcast or anything i'm not you. I was playing three and a half hours a day, Crossword Puzzles.
That was bordering on addiction.
But this wordle is awesome that it's once a day.
My point, though, is –
Don't do that.
Don't do the thing where it's like, well, he says he's doing it for this,
but actually it's exactly what he's saying it's for.
I'm not saying that he's doing it for this reason.
I don't think that he intentionally did it's for. I'm not saying that he's doing it for this reason. I don't think that he intentionally did it like this.
Unintentionally doing it, he's creating a new addiction.
Unintentionally made it extremely addictive
because of the supply is so low.
I'll tell you something.
And the demand is so high.
That's interesting.
That's my point.
I don't think it leads to addiction,
but you're not wrong that the,
you know that book I was reading
about the influence of psychology or the psychology
of influence.
Yeah.
Where it's like scarcity.
Yes.
People to want to.
Scarcity.
That's the word I exactly was going to say.
But this is not scarcity.
That wouldn't be the psychology of scarcity.
This might be the psychology.
Because scarcity means other people might use it all up and you got to get
it now.
Because the wordle is,
it's infinite for that 24 hours.. It's infinite for that 24 hours.
Everyone can have it for that 24 hours and after that,
and then there'll be a new one.
So it's never going to go away.
But that one goes away.
Yeah.
But who cares?
It's just another one.
Yeah.
But have you played wordle?
Noah?
No,
I haven't.
Will you try?
Because I just want to say that anyone who is annoyed with wordle,
especially when you're late to something like I'm late to yellow jackets and
like,
I'm never going to get on board because it's too much suspenseful.
And now everyone's talking about it.
And I kind of feel like I don't want to watch it now just because everyone's
upset.
Like there's a little bit of me.
If you're having that vibe with Wordle,
I understand.
Cause it seems like,
Oh God,
this thing,
all these people are posting about it.
It's takes two minutes of your day.
It's really fun.
A new puzzle comes up
when you're up late at night at 12 o'clock
and you can't sleep.
Oh, you're like,
oh, at least I can distract myself for two minutes
with this fun little word game.
Yeah, this is coming from someone that hates,
I hate crossword puzzles.
It's fun.
I hate them.
Yes.
I like Wordle.
Okay.
So that just shows you,
you don't have to be a wordsmith to love this.
And you can do it and not tell anyone about it. You don't have to be part of the Wordle. Okay. So that just shows you like, you don't have to be a wordsmith. And you can do it and not tell anyone about it.
You don't have to be part of the Wordle culture.
It's,
but I heard he sold it for the low millions,
low seven figures.
Yeah.
Which whenever someone says the seven figures,
why don't you just say in the low,
oh,
I guess you can't.
There's no like,
they sold it for one to five million
or like
I just hate the figures
because then I have to go
one two three
four five six
oh yeah
oh okay it's
so it's one to nine million
I thought it was a billion
actually
now that you're saying that
yeah
I thought it was like
a billion dollars
you thought he sold
Wardo for a billion dollars
yeah
but because
she was counting the figures
yeah
because when you count figures
it's a little I totally agree with her on that
because that's where people say the word figures
when they work in finance.
It's a way to sound cool about numbers and money.
It really is.
I know.
Because if you know what seven figures are,
you're dealing with that kind of money already.
No one says, oh, dude, I sold it for two figures.
Exactly.
Because if they did.
That is so funny.
You have to do a bit about that.
It's your bit.
You know when someone, but you just wrote the punchline.
I know.
No one does that.
You're so right.
I got to pack up.
So yeah, I just released an NFT.
Oh my God, what did you sell for?
And it's going for like one to two figures.
Oh, my God.
We think we might get low three figures.
I think Noah thinks that's $100,000.
It could be.
I can't do the math.
Yeah, the figures thing is so shitty.
My point about all that was the scarcity thing.
Don't make me do math.
Because everything in this world now is trying to get your attention
for the longest amount of time on the internet and on your phone.
But let me just say that Wordle, there are companies that made the same exact game, same graphics, everything about it.
And you can play it unlimited.
And no one's doing it.
No one I know.
First to market, it's called.
When that happens, too.
What do you mean?
First to market is like when...
You stay true to that one.
Yeah, because it's like why people...
Well, if people were addicted to Wordle, truly. it is like when you stay true to that one yeah because it was like why people well if you want
if people were addicted to wordle truly because let's just say when you become addicted to
something if it becomes that you can do it more than once a day if you're truly addicted you
would do it more than once a day like cigarettes if you were only allowed one a day but you could
get sick of that addiction quicker not with cigarettes people don't get sick of it quicker
that's not the way it works some things i think that but like to your point with the word smoked
you know a pack of cigarettes every day for 10 years i think that would be worse than smoking
one cigarette a day for your whole life i think i don't know maybe that's not true but i you know
i want to do Wordle with numbers.
We were talking about that.
One through nine.
Oh, like Sudoku.
Sudoku, but for Wordle.
Do you know there's letteral?
Sudoku.
Have you heard of that?
I would call it like Colin.
It's a joke on Wordle where you just guess a letter
and then it says whether it's right or not.
Oh, hilarious.
But there's no strategy.
That's so funny.
There's also Taylor Worldle.
Taylor Worldle.
Taylor Worldle. And it's a Taylor Swift five-letter word. So it's so funny yeah there's also taylor world taylor taylor lord and it's a taylor
swift five letter word so it's wordle but taylor swift words which are just you know lyrics or like
just themes and every day it's a new one and people so many besties sent it to me thank you so much
the first day i got it in one try which if you don't play wordle that's like just you you got
to be a mind reader or it's
just dumb luck to guess randomly the right word and it was scarf the first day because you know
taylor's was scarf and every another day it was kanye and yesterday i was talking about taylor
when so andrew had not played wordle yet that day and i was talking about taylor
and he overheard me and i go yeah today's with Kanye and he goes dude
I haven't played it yet and I go do you think Wordle would have Kanye it was so funny everywhere
you know he he he said that Pete Davidson is gay and has AIDS I mean it's so stupid I mean wild
it's a strong move by an ex-boyfriend. It's just like...
So then he's saying essentially that, yeah.
We got to go to break.
Let's get back because let's just skip the rest of the news today
and get to Fanthrax because I know we got some good ones.
Okay.
All right.
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Oh, yeah.
What happened with him?
That's it.
He just retired.
He posted a thing on Instagram?
Okay, cool.
He reposted Tank's Good News?
Yeah.
What?
Did you see that?
No.
He reposted.
Oh.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Okay.
We're back, and it's time for Fanthrax.
Fanthrax.
Fanthrax.
Okay.
Let's get into it. Noah, play us some messages from our besties.
Okay.
First one comes from Allie hi Noah Nikki and Andrew I was just listening
to the podcast where Noah was absent and Nikki and Andrew covered the murder podcast I was scared
just from you two describing the podcast I can't listen to that type of podcast
because it will ruin my week. Good for you, girl. But I appreciate you covering it and giving me
some insight. And then at the end of the podcast, you talked about a story where you got a phone
call while your parents were out of the house and it scared you so bad that you locked yourself in a room.
Similar things happened when I was younger. People would call and I would have to say my mom was in the shower when they were like literally looking at her shopping in Walmart.
But anyways, one time we were playing a game where we were pretending that a clown would come out of
the laundry room drain and we scared ourselves so bad with the game
that we had to lock ourselves in our parents' bathroom. And when the parents got home,
they were like, what is going on here? So I can totally relate to stories like that,
just scaring yourself so badly. And I appreciate the recap of the murder podcast because I will never be
listening to it.
Um,
thank you.
And jajajaja jack-o'-lantern jack-o'-lantern.
That's so good.
Allie.
Oh my gosh.
I love that.
You don't listen to that stuff because you,
you know that it makes you uncomfortable.
And like you're someone who's choosing not to bring in things that are going
to like stress you out in life.
And I'm sorry that we like forced it on you.
And I'm maybe that is our thing is like we make murder podcast palatable for
people who are scared.
The ginger.
What?
Oh,
the ginger.
Yeah.
We make it.
Well,
ginger just like does a reset.
It's not like it makes it.
So the sushi tastes better.
Yeah.
I mean,
yeah.
Ginger.
Um,
I want to say it's so easy to make yourself scared of something
something i do to get out of that because sometimes you'll watch a murder show or
something that just out of nowhere scares you and you'll realize shit i'm alone
and you ever do bloody mary in the camera or in the camera in the mirror in the mirror
or another thing bloody mary bloody mary bloody yeah and then like they show up well that's like
really asking for it.
But if you somehow unintentionally work yourself into like you're fucking scared at night
and you're like, oh no, what am I going to do?
Like last night I kind of did that.
I like to do this thing where I just imagine that like I just do a reset of like
what does this room look like during the day?
And like birds chirping,
how is this different?
The only difference is that there's no light in here,
but like everything's the same.
Like you just have to kind of reset.
Like what did this room look like earlier this morning when I,
or what it's going to look like tomorrow morning?
Like,
because truly,
you know that whatever is going on is just a figment of your imagination
and that really if you ever get murdered in your room it's not gonna be when you think it's coming
you know what i mean like plenty of people get murdered during the day too sure but like i'm
just saying like why don't you just turn the light on when you're scared sometimes when i'm scared of
like oh my god what if someone came in and raped me right now in this hotel or whatever and it's like, I'm waiting for it.
It never happened.
No one,
it might happen right before.
You're not gonna.
I bet a lot of people
on planes that crash
are like already scared
and that's just so sad to me.
It just really works out.
Let's get to the next one.
Allie,
I really appreciated that.
I'm sorry about that clown.
Oh my God.
Oh,
I relate so much
of just making a game
and then all of a sudden
the game like really gets.
Well,
they probably saw it, the movie It.
Yeah, in the drain.
One of the kids saw of like something with it
and then the other kids hadn't heard of it yet
and then it just becomes, oh my God.
I'm scared to take a shower now.
Well, I've been afraid for a while for other reasons.
Hygiene in the drain.
Hygiene, hydrate.
Is the clown's name Gene?
I have a cousin, he writes poems they're terrible runs in the family didn't skip a generation throttle bottle
okay you guys want the next message yes yes sorry we were just talking quietly until it started
playing i don't like it so we're just shower drain uh who's this from okay this one is from joe
joe joe hi this is joe i currently live in missoula montana and it's snowing outside
anyway i wanted to share this story with you guys i was playing bananagrams
and it's a word game you play with tiles yeah and scrabble i had an extra h and i played it
incorrectly and my friend was like oh you can move it over here and put the h in front of that e
and so i moved it and i looked at it and i was like hey that's not a
word i forgot the word oh my god anyway hope you all are well and staying warm and everything else
thanks bye joe what the fuck is i think we all yo what's going on with your dude i just yoked so hard on this couch i nutted all over your yoke um joe i have to were
you in a closet trying to be quiet or were you at a spa like in the waiting room where before they
come get you like why did your voice sound so like it sounded like she was trying to do like
like it was trying to like she was as ASMR. Joe, I'm not kidding you.
I know I say this a lot.
Yes.
Some of our listeners can,
and I am not one of these listeners.
So Allie,
don't feel sad that I didn't say this about your voice.
Your voice was awesome,
but no one's ever told me my voice is soothing.
Yeah.
It's cause it's,
it's harsh,
but Joe,
you need to do ASMR.
You could make so much money.
She should do your audio book.
I'm not kidding you. No. Cause I want people to stay awake for it. Joe, You could make so much money. She should do your audio book. I'm not kidding you.
No, because I want people to stay awake for it.
Joe, your voice is so hypnotic.
It's amazing.
Unbelievable.
Please, Joe, if you would just honestly.
I just want to hear things about Montana.
If you would send us a voice memo of you just reading something,
or just telling me about your day and
like even like try to go a little bit more soothing for like five minutes i would listen
to it at night and like fall asleep to it if you could somehow get us that recording
because that was awesome i just wanted to tell us like about the rivers in montana like fly fishing
oh the heck like river run through it yeah yeah tell us about missoula yeah tell us about missoula
tell us like what's there to do, tell us about Missoula.
Tell us like what's there to do there.
What are the different- Missoula's so beautiful.
It's one of those places that during the summer,
it's like awesome.
And I think in the winter, it's pretty harsh.
But I just thought she was like,
and out there, the snow.
And he, you know what?
You can, I feel like he is how she says he anyway,
because it's softer.
But you know what it reminds me of is that tiktok thing where
she's like um where you go what's what is it it's it's the trick hold on let me just think of it one
second i know we don't have a lot oh um how do you uh repeat tell me what i'm spelling okay y-e-s
yes okay e-y-e-s and they go e-s yeah yes and the person's like what yes yes and they're
like laughing so hard and she's like e-y-e-s he's like yes it's such a cute tiktok look up the e-y-e-s
eyes by the way and it's eyes the whole time it's eyes if you're at home going so funny to to not know what eyes is but he i would do the same thing
of going like because you're thinking hey i bet you anything she was putting the h over it like
next the on the other side of the e at first or something like that you're like too it's not like
it's so short but it's still so funny not to know and just to go hey well you're probably
thinking like oh this is heathens or like i really want to start saying he said it was uh snowy outside it's like a list
but for an e i don't know why it's like a that is joe that was a perfect fanthrax in the sense
and ali killed it too because she offered insight into the podcast she gave us a personal story yes
and she was just sweet and like great fan threats today
joe did a great one too soothing voice um gave us a where she is listening to the podcast i like
like setting a scene um and then the to think of us when she did a banana grams and had that moment
to go i gotta share this with them i really appreciate that fuck yeah it makes me feel like oh i'm i have
a friend in missoula who's like thinking of me yeah who's like oh my god my friend nikki and
andrew would like this i feel like she's laying by a fire i don't know why always always and
banana even during the summer i've never played it but i've been given it as a gift so many times
let's get to final thought i like teddy grams okay so this one's a little long
but it's from steve uh from the other part of the world steve-o i really loved just letting
you say i love teddy grams i really do it was almost like i like turtles it was this we have
to steal the audio from using i love teddy Grahams and the I like turtles guy.
Okay.
Oh, here we go. Hey, Nicky, Noah, and Andrew.
It's Steve. I'm a bestie from South Africa. I think I might be the first bestie
to phone in from here.
Hey, Bray. He just said, yeah.
Love the pod. Listen every day.
Although it often comes out the next day here.
And yeah, just want to say how much
I really enjoy it.
Nikki, I first started listening to you
when you were on Whitney's podcast
during our lockdown here.
And you spoke a lot about doing the best you can
and how, you know, you've done as much as you can
and you couldn't do more.
And if you could, you would.
And a lot of what you said really resonated with me.
And yeah, what you say on the pod continues to do so.
So thank you for being so honest and
open with us it helps probably more than you know um i've also become a major swifty since
listening to the pod so keep on spreading the gospel currently obsessed with the song
the lucky one um obviously the taylor's version and yeah just want wanted to touch base on last week's pod
where you guys were talking about sounds you can't stand
the two things that drive me mad
are polystyrene
especially when it's like packaging and it grabs against
each other the sound gives me
goosebumps and makes my teeth feel weird
and the other is the sound of someone
biting into an ice lolly
both drive me absolutely mad
an ice lolly? an ice luggie. Into what? Both drive me absolutely nuts. Wait, go back.
An ice loggie?
An ice loggie? I can't make out what
Steve says. Let's hear it one more time.
Can you do it negative? Like, can you do it
at 0.5 speed? I see there's a
little speed thing. Is there a 0.5?
Oh, it's only more. Okay, let's do it
one more time.
The sound of something biting into an ice
luggie. Ice luggie of someone biting into an ice lolly.
Ice lolly. Biting into an ice.
Oh, maybe an ice cube.
Wait, let's just see.
I'm going to type in ice lolly.
Logie.
Logie.
Ice loggie.
Here we go.
Ice cube, right.
It's a loggie, a glacier, an ice.
Oh, wait.
Someone biting into a glacier.
Yeah, I hate when people bite into glaciers
Okay an ice
Hey what was his name again?
Steve
Hey Steve we would love to know what that is exactly
I'm guessing it's just an ice cube
Disgusting
And he said polystyrene but that means styrofoam
And he said ha which is here
But you can play that in Bananagrams
Love you Again Steve great voice i mean
and thank you so much for listening and for saying all that nice you just know he's a good person
is it weird you could tell in a minute that you would be like okay this person
fucking just gets life and is self-aware and isn't fucking egotistical and just good and i it was
really important for me to because i don't listen to my appearances on things.
So for him to reiterate the thing that I said just helped me today because I
was in a different place that day of like really feeling good and like knowing
stuff.
You weren't here.
I wasn't here.
And sometimes I need to be reminded of the things I've said that made people
feel better because I need to hear those back to myself because I can't always maintain them or remember the places I was.
Sustaining is incredibly hard.
I remember having that outlook and how important that is of like whatever I'm struggling with today, which today it's I have a deadline that I have surpassed to the point where the person who usually is writing me about like,
Hey,
when are you going to have those notes for us?
Every time I write back when I will,
they always go great.
And it's an exclamation point.
And now it's at the point where they just don't,
they're just thumbs upping it.
Yeah.
Like this person that's always so nice is like not being that night.
Not that they're not being nice,
but they're not enthusiastic anymore about good meat.
Right. Exactly. Yeah. not being that nice not that they're not being nice but they're not enthusiastic anymore about good me right exactly yeah and so that is making me feel like a failure like i am letting people down like i am delaying something that everyone's mad at me that why can't i just do this thing that
is so fucking easy why can't i look at this thing and the truth is if i could I would it's obviously something that is like very hard for me to do
that other people might not have an issue with but this is my thing I have all the time in the
world people keep saying Nikki you're so busy it makes sense and I obviously keep presenting it
that way to this person I have time to do this I'm choosing to pick up the guitar I'm choosing
to sleep I'm choosing to watch Secrets of Playboy not because I'm a bad person and I want to make these people wait and I love making them suffer.
It's because I just can't do it. And it's okay. If I could, I would. My intentions are not,
I'm not malintented. And so whatever you're dealing with today where you feel like
the people might perceive you as being negligent, a bad person, lazy, all these things.
You're not those things.
They might have those opinions about you, but you know you're not doing it to hurt anyone.
If you are, then why are you listening to the podcast?
You're a sociopath.
All of us don't want to hurt anyone.
And if we do, because sometimes I do want to hurt someone.
Lately, I've been wanting to really fight someone, set a time with someone so we meet.
You did take one self-defense class, so you're ready.
I'm ready.
What would you do in a fight?
I'd love to see you in a fight, like a fist fight.
Put my fist, try to put my fist through their face.
Honestly, cheekbone. I would hit the cheek cheekbone which would probably hurt my hand more i don't i mean that that is literally all i would do who told you this because no no one oh this is
just my instinct when you said that i like was thinking about your face like what i do and i
would go up like this i would try to hit there on your cheekbone like that okay why not the jaw the
jaw would not come out the
cheekbone you might break your cheekbone i don't want to hurt their teeth but you want to break
their fucking i just want to hurt them and i want to like make them have a black eye so it like
shows that i've fucked them up but like jaw i think would just be like ow that's kind of annoying
there is a saying where you like be like that awesome try to hit through their head or hit the
back of their head so then you're not aiming for here.
You're aiming for back here.
So you're going through them. I would like that Price is Right game.
So what if you punch them once?
You think you're going to punch them once and it's going to be over?
No, no, no, no, no.
I will just keep swinging until I'm, I will just, and I don't want to use my.
What if she just takes it and goes, that's all you got?
What do you do?
Why do you think this is a girl?
It's a dog. Oh. And it is a girl dog. How did you you got? What do you do? Why do you think this is a girl? It's a dog.
Oh.
And it is a girl dog.
How did you know that?
I know you.
This dog was looking at me.
Where is the dog from the camel farm?
I just could read you.
I could read your eyes.
No, but I, yes, there are times I do want to hurt people
and I want to say that that is,
or I want to make someone feel bad.
That also is not a thing where I'm like a sociopath
or I'm a bad person.
It's because I'm in pain
and that's the only way I have to deal with it.
So for me right now, I'm dealing with some pain.
That is, I have low self-esteem
with regards to watching my standup special.
I don't want to look at it
because it causes me pain to see myself
and I'm scared of what I might see
and what might cause me to,
like the results of me watching my special
and giving notes might send me into a depression
that I'm like scared of that fallout. That's why I'm avoiding it. So I'm trying to avoid pain. I'm
trying to avoid putting other people through pain that might be residual from me. So it's okay. I
forgive myself. So whatever you're avoiding today or letting people down, forgive yourself for it
because it's not like you want it to. That's my lesson to myself today thank you joe for reminding me of that and uh we'll be ha yeah yeah hey i'm not making fun
of your accent i fucking love it yeah um i know yours i definitely make fun of no okay guys thank
you so much for listening to the show we will be here next week and um can't wait for it uh thank
you for listening all this week and for putting up with our wacky Tuesday episode.
We won't be doing that again anytime soon, but maybe.
Andrew, any final thoughts?
He loves Teddy Grahams.
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