The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #257 GQ GA w/ Chris Convy & Anya Marina
Episode Date: August 11, 2022A lot of good questions and good answers are had between Nikki and her guests Chris Convy and Anya Marina. Communication between men, how Hillary Duff was an ally to the gay community and staying away... from toxic positivity are on top of mind. Anya brings her dad's energy to a discussion about being better around people you care about and how to handle Nikki's rollercoaster of emotions. They play Never Have I Ever... a game that one of them has already played once today. ---- Watch this episode on our Youtube Channel: The Nikki Glaser Podcast Follow the pod on Instagram for bonus content: @NikkiGlaserPod Leave us your voicemail: Click Here To Record Get Pod Merch: Podshop.NikkiGlaser.com Nikki's Tour Dates: www.nikkiglaser.com/tour Andrew's Tour Dates: www.andrewcollincomedy.com  More Nikki: IG More Andrew: IG More producer Noa: IGSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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not safe with nikki glazer and he's also my lover yeah the co-creator of this relationship
yeah you have ep credit on this relationship
as well. It's Chris Convey, everyone.
I get residuals. It's great.
Hey, guys.
Hey, it's Chris Convey. He's here
and joining us from Arizona
is, of course, Noah. Hi, Noah.
Hi. And then joining us
from New York City
where she is currently
holed up,
which is in Arapé,
that we have determined.
If you're just now hearing that word
for the first time,
which I know Chris Convey is
because he kind of went,
holed?
We've coined a new thing
in addition to que.
Yeah.
We have also coined the word Arapé,
which is a fancy French way of saying ear rape,
which is like a thing that someone says that you just go like, oh, and it's just like,
like, you didn't ask for it.
You didn't want it.
And now it's just penetrated your ears.
And it's like in you and you.
So is it gross or offensive?
You have to keep the baby it gave you because you live in America now.
And even though it was not, it was forced on you, you have to keep that baby it gave you because you live in america now and even though it was not it
was forced on you you have to keep that fucking thought in your head what was the original
okay the original for me was nom nom i saw i just kept hearing my adult friends saying nom
and nom nom and i was like i do not i did not to hearing. It was like 10 years ago.
I remember first seeing Nom or maybe even 15.
We were big back then.
And I hate when adults infantilize themselves.
So I remember tweeting Nom Nom is ear rape.
I was today years old when I learned this.
I kind of like that one.
I mean, I know it's like when I first heard it, I was like, that's good.
But you're right.
It's like now it's overused.
Yeah, everybody's used it. But the first time I saw it, I was like, that's good, but you're right. It's like now it's overused. Yeah, everybody's used it.
But that,
I kind of,
the first time I saw it,
I was like,
that's clever.
Much like last night,
we were watching FBoy Island
and I was telling Chris about,
he was asking me about the mega dates
on FBoy Island,
which are these 24 hour dates
that the girls have at the very end
with the two guys
that are in their final two.
If you haven't watched FBoy Island,
at the very end,
each girl has two guys
in their final two. They have to decide between which one and they go on mega dates which is a
just a dumb thing that we called it and they're 24 hour dates and they're and my friend hala on
our group chat asked she was like are these dates back to back like is there any rest in between or
are these girls what did she say in the chat on you it was so funny she was like do they have time to like dump out or something like it wasn't about like it wasn't too much it wasn't it was
like there was some funny way that she said it anyway it is true those dates are stacked there
isn't a break in between it's like you know maybe they like have a couple hours or something but
it's like the next day they wake up in bed or wherever they did with the guy and then they
they go out with the other guy
so we were talking about it yesterday and i told chris that last season which he has not seen and
i i didn't even watch i don't think the finale of last season but i remember distinctly new jared
telling casey who casey was the second date of cj's and he asked casey yo how'd my dick taste
last night and that was
the first time i had ever heard someone say that and i remember being like that's pretty clever
and disgusting but clever for a guy like that isn't really that funny on the show i mean he
was he was charming whatever but he wasn't like i thought it was a good line and chris last night
told me because i was like chris this disgusting thing happened this guy said this thing it's kind
of funny and he was like oh that's that's a line. You know guys say that. I mean, I've probably heard that
since I was 15.
And guys say that.
That's the difference
between men and women.
Like, that's locker room talk.
Without making it a Trumpy thing,
that's like a thing
that exists in male circles
that you guys are not,
it's not bleeding out
in front of women, ever.
Yeah, because why would you
ever hear that?
There's certain things that you just, now that I have, like, male friends are not it's not bleeding out in front of women yeah because why would you ever hear that there's
certain things that you just in now that i've i have like male friends who are not trying to like
fuck me and it's just like comfortable and there's just a there's they talk around me like there's no
incentive to to hold anything back around me you get these little slices of male life that you're
like i did not know men talked like this yeah there's another there's
a little bit of it yeah it's yeah yeah locker room is i hate that it's connotated with trump
yeah it is kind of and it's also like um it's also like misogynistic and there's some other
things there's some pretty there's some there's some gross stuff about it but there is another
world of like what you know how guys are actually just talking around each other when it's just guys.
And I went to an all-guys school.
And there is sort of another level of – it isn't weird and gross like locker room talk.
But it's just like when guys are hanging out all day, every day together like that.
You guys talk about your feelings.
We talk about it.
You guys really share about what you're going through anya do you are there any like guy things that you've discovered recently that you
didn't know before that you'd be like how did i you know in all my years how did i not know
that guys did this sort of thing regularly i just couldn't believe when i first went on tour with a
bunch of guys in a van i couldn't believe how much they fucking talked. I was like, these guys talk forever about nothing.
It was nothing.
Like, how do you talk for seven hours
without ever saying one interesting thing about your feelings?
Are you talking about like, is it about like,
because they're talking about Star Wars or sports?
Yeah, like movies, anime.
You know, Les Paul less pause so much shit
it was wild to me and i was envious because i hate small talk and i don't know how to do it
and i always cut right to the chase too deep to the chase with strangers yeah and i would love to
know how to make small talk so i was kind of studying them but by the end of the tour i was
still just as lost as i was in the beginning. I was just shocked that like never in seven hours would anyone ever get around to like relationship talk or I'm bummed about this or that.
It was just like, oh, yeah, bro.
Have you seen this?
Just like just that for seven hours.
Is there any space for the idea that the guys communicate those things in different ways at all?
No, there's space for the fact that men's brains are different and you don't and your hormones are different like you don't need
as much you guys definitely need more emotional connections than you're getting because i just see
you just i think men are just by culturally starved of that stuff because it's gay if you
guys like ever cry or anything or you know whatever it is but i think that you definitely need it less than we do yeah probably i remember a book i read in high school but
it was called lords of discipline and it's about like a military guys that are going to like a
military academy and they they've been off for the summer and they hadn't seen each other in three
months or four months or whatever it is. And they get back to school
and with their old roommates, their best friends,
and one guy was like, hey man, good to see you.
Really, really missed you.
And then the main character talked to the other guy
in the same room.
And the other guy's like, hey douchebag,
hoped I wouldn't have to see you again this year.
And then the author said,
but both guys said the same thing.
So it's like both guys were communicating love you missed you but it was in their own ways and that landed on the
main character one of the most like the an example of this that i witnessed and i may have talked
about it on the podcast but i don't think i did when i had my birthday party this year that chris
ep'd um it was at a karaoke bar or like a bar in St. Louis,
but it was this karaoke room.
It was so much fun.
And the whole time, like, you know, everyone's singing,
having a good time.
Chris is kind of like more managing the room.
Like you're making sure everyone's having a good time.
You haven't sung yet.
You're like just hanging back.
Then at one point, you know,
probably three-fourths of the way through,
we've all sung.
And then Matt, my brother-in-law, and you decide to sing Weezer, the sweater song?
Or no, Say It Ain't So.
I think it might have been Say It Ain't So.
Say It Ain't So.
And they both went to all boys, like Christian, not Christian.
Yours was Catholic.
Catholic.
His was Jesuit.
Mine was Benedictine.
Okay, yeah.
Yours was monks, and his was Jesus was Jesuit. Mine was Benedictine. Okay, yeah. Yours was monks and his was Jesus.
Jesuits, yeah.
Jesus-its.
I don't even know.
I don't know what any of it means,
but they had this performance of this song
that looked as if they were taught it at some point,
like almost like the electric slide.
What did your dad say?
My dad turned to me and goes, did they plan this? taught it at some point like almost like the um electric slide what did your dad say he my dad
turned to me and goes did they plan this he goes what is happening right now they both it was
homoerotic in the funniest way but they both like chris chris would like hold the microphone like
like he was peeing and then matt would bend down and sing into it and then matt would do the same
thing and chris would sing into it and there was no hesitation
there was no like I'm gonna do this follow along
it was as if you guys
were speaking this like
it was so funny
that was the point of it
it was for us
but it was so funny
I couldn't believe it because it was just like
you guys didn't even talk
you maybe talked a little bit throughout the night oh yeah yeah we barely was this unspoken thing you both just grabbed the
mic and knew exactly what was going to happen with the song there's a shorthand with with like
a certain kind of guy at a certain age like we yeah you did a shorthand job in the middle of it
too yeah it was quick and easy no it was so funny was it? What's the shorthand? Well, it's just that there is a shorthand with like, you know, like we grew up in the
same place.
But you know what?
I've got Australian friends that would do the exact same thing.
We would have been in the exact same position.
And so I think there's a certain age, which, you know, like I'm 40 right now.
And I think Matt's like 37, something like that.
So it's like there's an age range where there's like a little bit of backlash against like
bro type culture things where like if you did anything, if you got any, if you got close
to another guy, then that's...
Just go all the way.
Well, no, it's like, no, it's just like if other people, like the generation right above
us or just a few years older would be like, oh's what you guys are doing is gay yes my dad was like this is really gay but i'm like no this
is how in the late 90s 2000s like boy schools we go the other way we don't care yes we don't
consider it we're just like we do matt and i do love each other like we i at least i love him i
think he's one of the greatest things going.
So there's no insecurities about the way we look.
There's no insecurities about what we're doing.
We're dating sisters.
It doesn't even dawn on us that other people would look at this and be like,
It was so funny.
This is what-
But my dad's reaction was, he was just sitting next to me and he just was like,
Do they work on this?
Is this for you? Is this almost like a wedding performance? like he was just sitting next to me he just was like do they do they work on this like is this
for you is this like a like almost like a wedding performance like a wedding dance that they
secretly play no all straight men when they get a little loose they they know when they see a phallic
symbol you get on your knees and you suck it or you pretend to suck it no i but don't you guys
know haven't you noticed that there is a in, there are certain guys that would shy away from anything that could even have.
Because they're probably gay.
The little bit.
No, I also think it's because they like, don't, you know, I think it's just a little bit older
than us.
They just think that that's really weird.
Whereas like, like my friends use, you know, people used to use gay in a bad, like they
would be like, oh, that's, you know, when, when you're young, some people will be like, oh man, that's gay to use gay in a bad like they would be like oh that's you know when you're young some people would be like oh man that's gay until hillary duff did
that campaign and then we all stopped i don't know what that is she did like a psa that was like
um these two girls were like shopping at forever 21 and hillary duff is like nearby
overhearing them it was probably like 2004 she did this and they go like oh my god that's so gay
and she goes i just want to say
what if I said something like
if I didn't like something
and I said
wow that's so
the girl in the red shirt
that's standing in front of me
right now
how would that make you feel
and the girls were just like
wow
it was just like
Hilary Duff saved the world
essentially
she did
and did you remember
ever seen those paparazzi shots
of her giving her husband
a blowy
when he proposes?
I just remember she's the first person. So invasive, but I loved them.
She's the first person I noticed that had those big, huge teeth that were like brand
new.
I didn't know where that was going.
They came out of nowhere.
It's not expecting teeth.
I was like, teeth.
Remember that she got her teeth done and all of a sudden it's just like, those are, that's
okay to do this.
Those aren't the originals?
I was zooming in on Taylor Swift's teeth last night on Instagram,
and those are some veneers.
Really?
They're so good now.
I have nothing against people who get veneers.
I'm not calling anyone out.
Duff was early in the game.
Yeah.
And I think you can tell.
Well, I think there is also, like, women also have this kind of,
there are certain things that we do that maybe you go like,
where the hell did you learn that? Like, Anya does it i see where you'll go like if you ever get into it like a
dancey sexy move mood when we're backstage just hanging out like you'll like slap your ass and
go like up it like you'll do like a stripper kind of do you know what i'm talking about
i did not know i do this i'm proud of myself oh wow i just do that alone that will hit that we
learn from britney spears or
like i don't even know but like do you ever see chris do you ever notice things when you're around
a bunch of girls where you go just go or i guess my friends i think that no i admire you and your
friendships like i think it's i think you have the coolest friendships that i currently know
about like you're you growing up with your goofy girlfriends reminds me of the nerds we used to make fun of in school.
I'm just kidding.
You sound like Mercedes Goofy from FBoy.
I don't know if you saw that episode,
but he overused the word goofy.
Just kept calling this guy goofy over and over.
Oh yeah, he's one of the guys on the show?
The black guy that is the one that you think,
we haven't watched the finale yet, chris thinks that mercedes is going to louise is going to pick mercedes that he is
going to keep the money but he but he's not keeping the money because he's a good guy he's just
planning what's going to be best for him in the long run i think he is oh you have not watched
the rest i don't i haven't watched the first season okay He seems like he would be the ultimate, like the greatest F boy,
maybe that's ever lived.
Like he seems like he's perfectly suited for this role.
He's so good that he'll marry her,
treat her right,
spend his whole life with her.
It's the long game.
Yeah, the real long game.
And then fuck her over in the will or something.
That's the kind of guy he is.
By that point, he has $5,000.
He's like
i got it yeah well that's what you get after your you know taxes out on this game even if you walk
away with 50 um we watched yeah we watched episode eight and nine last night of f boy and we didn't
get through 10 because we wanted to watch the rehearsal the new nathan fielder show and it's
so good but i do have to say I was really Chris is obviously
amazing tv producer and you know everyone's a little skeptical about f boy island like what
is this but at one point you turned to me and you were like this show is what did you say well I
didn't say this show I said this is some this is incredible tv like we watched we were it was like
the I think oh Nico or is that his name Nico oh you meant like that scene yeah I, it was like the, I think, oh, Nico. Is that his name, Nico?
Oh, you meant like that scene?
Yeah, I said, I was like, this is incredible TV right here.
Oh, yes.
Because there was a few scenes that were just like, this is-
Okay, sorry, I'll take that feeling good about my show for a second back.
You only liked one scene.
I'm glad you made that clear.
Oh, sorry.
I thought we were, oh, man, I thought we were going for accuracy on this.
I thought this podcast was about authenticity and the truth.
It is.
It actually is.
No, but you're right.
I keep forgetting because the show itself is so just stupid.
It's F. Boyd Island that I'm like, I forget the things that I even witnessed where I'm
just like, what's going to happen?
I didn't remember the mansplain and I was like on the edge of my seat last night about it.
It was great.
Yeah, there was, I mean, there was some very compelling stuff.
And it was, it felt like it was a little bit out of nowhere.
And all of a sudden you're like, what is this thing that I'm watching?
What was about the Nico scene that made you say that?
Like in particular?
Are there spoilers?
Are we doing, are we nervous about spoilers?
I think everyone else, the hilarious part of this is I haven't seen the final episode.
I'm in it.
You'll spoil it for naked.
But I think most people have seen it
that have at this point.
I just like that rules would probably dictate
that you couldn't do certain things.
Yeah.
And, you know, what's her name again?
Tamaris, like, you know,
she and Tom were clearly not right for each other.
They set it up really perfectly
where they're just like,
you knew she was into Nico like earlier in the episode She and Tom were clearly not right for each other. They set it up really perfectly where they're just like,
you knew she was into Nico earlier in the episode and maybe the episode before.
She's just like, I'm just thinking about Nico a little bit.
And you're like, why is she even talking about this?
So you didn't see that coming?
I didn't see it.
No, I didn't see it coming that they were going to do the old switcheroo.
But I don't know the rules of the game.
So I didn't know if Tom was getting eliminated right then.
I didn't really know what was happening so when when you offered for nico
yes i was like this is incredible because in in that moment she had to pick between those two guys
and neither of they both thought they were safe for at least another day yes and then it was
obvious she was gonna get rid of tom poor sweet poor sweet Tom chucking that ring into the ocean slamming his fist on the table.
That was the best. He broke his hand
you guys. I feel like
Tamaris got the idea to bring Nico
back because Nikki was like God I love Nico
he was so sweet. And he
had already left at that point. Well the thing was
I went to
the good guy Grotto to
film a bunch of sketches
and Nico was just like charming and
fun and i always liked him in the first place and i didn't really understand why she sent him home
and i guess she sent him home because he got a little too drunk and he was defending an f-boy
and i i never really saw that shakedown so i didn't really get why he was eliminated because
he just seemed so fun and good for her and then when i was at the nice guy grotto i was just like
man this guy is like he should be still he should be on like he's a main character you know and then when I was at the Nice Guy Grotto I was just like man this guy is like he should be still
he should be on like he's a main
character you know and then I think
that day I went the next day I went to the girls
and I was just like Nico
pretty good I was just kind of like
I also love that because I thought that
what if they're eliminating the guy that was
you know even that first night we watched because I think we
watched the first two episodes I was
just like they barely even know these guys you know one of them they thought was the greatest
guy in the world the first day they met him and then jared and then they immediately turned on
him and were like you're not good and it was probably his fault but then yeah you're getting
rid of guys all william nilliam long and for willie nillyilly. Opposite of irrape. I want to hear that again and again.
Okay, yes.
We'll talk more F-boy.
We'll talk more the rehearsal.
And we'll just talk more about the differences between men and women
when we get back with Chris Convey and Anya Marina after this.
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All right, we're back.
So yeah, Anya, have you seen, we're talking TV that we've been watching,
have you seen the rehearsal with Nathan Fielder on HBO?
No, not yet.
I'm going to get to that after all my cult documentaries.
Man, he is at it again.
It is so, Chris and i went through all the
stages of grief yesterday like watching it the emotions i was like buried my head in his chest
like we it was more of a roller coaster than our relationship but does it give you the same
andy kaufman feeling as the as his old show where you're just like oh this is so bad I feel bad for all the people he's like funking yeah but yeah the other thing is there are except for like
you know they're they're getting something out of this in some way and like I don't feel like it's
and he's totally using them outright yeah you know like there are people that are getting things out of
it like one guy and i think episode three really felt like he had a cathartic moment yes that was
real and what's the premise of the show again the premise of the show is thank you for asking
because people are probably like okay just if i'm not watching this i don't understand it is that
nathan fielder has determined that there's so many things in life that you, he's a little bit on the spectrum.
I believe, I think that's probably safe to say.
And
as someone who self-diagnoses
on the spectrum, I can say,
I can self-diagnose other people or
other diagnose.
I mean, can we talk about that at some point?
I did yesterday, but I'll get to
some of those things because we should go over them
now that we have Chris Convey here.
The three people who know me best in the whole world probably are here.
So the show is about he realizes in life there are so many things that could go wrong and you worry about in these big moments.
And it would be nice if you could rehearse for them and so he asked people about things they want to you know
something that's holding them back in life something they have to do and they're nervous
about and they've been putting off and he then creates a world where they can rehearse this
situation to see if it actually is something they want to go through with or if it's something that
in what is the best way to go through with it infielder goes full i mean everything that he does he just gets all the
details he just dives in it's veep levels of like the way that veep writes every line must be a joke
i feel like this show i just watch it and as a tv producer don't you feel like they don't they
always they squeeze every single bit out of every they spun like everything that could
be they do yeah i just i feel like the commitment to the bit is insane like it i you know like it's
sasha baron cohen i mean i think fielder is taking things to another sort of level for sure and then
the way that they're able to pivot because it's real world like it's real they're they're messing with real people in the real world so that stuff is unpredictable it's
not scripted yeah so if this if a woman if if they liked the idea of of this woman doing you
know going left instead of right and and but she goes right they've got to pivot on the fly and
they're brilliant at turning that into an opportunity to do something that's funny or cool or interesting.
And they're just constantly pivoting.
That is such a good point because I,
that's why I like making reality TV is because there's no script and I don't
have to prepare for it.
And you are making decisions on the fly and it's like stand up in a way.
Like there's,
you don't,
I don't like preparation as you know,
like I don't preparation age either.
I just like to suffer, but I don't like to go as you know. I don't preparation H either. I just like to suffer.
But I don't like to go over what's going to happen,
and I don't like to look back on what's going to happen.
I just like to go as we go and figure it out.
And it's me being more lazy than anything
and fearful of if I try and I fail,
then that means I'm not talented.
But if I don't prepare and I fail,
then I can just be like, well, it's because I didn't prepare.
But there is something about this fail that I can just be like well it's because I didn't prepare but there is something about that this show that I I do love that and you know what it reminds me of how you
are often reminding me and how you really were in Montreal when we were together whenever something
would go quote-unquote wrong Chris would be like well look what what's gonna happen now because of
this like right look what look what we got
because of this and i was able because you got me in that mindset that whole time because i think
you were really doing your best as my boyfriend to be like very supportive and keep me in a good
mindset when i was there because i was doing this something i was nervous about which is a crowd
work thing right and so you were so good at like getting me to think about everything's an opportunity,
even failures, that this week I was really able to do that so much on my own.
Oh, yeah.
So you could get there on your own because you practice.
Yeah. Like there was something where I couldn't bring a friend to this thing.
And I was like, you know, I wasn't allowed to bring any family or friends to this thing.
And I was like, this sucks.
I have to do this alone.
Like usually I get to bring someone. Everyone else gets to bring someone. I this thing. And I was like, this sucks. I have to do this alone.
Usually I get to bring someone.
Everyone else gets to bring someone.
I don't.
And I was so mad about it.
And then I was like, oh my god.
If I would have brought a friend to this thing,
I would not have become friends with the people.
I just made friends because I didn't have a friend.
And I was like, that would have never happened if it went the way I wanted it to.
So you made friends.
Yes.
I love that.
This is such a Dale Carnegiegie like wayne dyer successful person way of looking at life like
all all these successful people are like every failure is an opportunity you just have to see
the opportunity in it it is but i mean i like listen i'm not like some perfect optimist or
anything but you were that weekend though.
But we, you know, our flights were delayed, but we were together.
Like we were either going to be together on a plane or together in an airport or together
at a hotel.
Like, you know, so it didn't really matter all that much.
So it was a bit of, you know, it's, those initial things are a bummer, but then we had
such fun wins with the airlines employees.
Yes.
Because they were so great.
I think Jeffrey and Jenny, maybe?
Jenny.
Yeah. And Jasmine. And Jasmine. And Jazzy. Jaz jazzy no jazzy jazzy that's right and so we just had like a fun one with them you got
pictures with them they turns out they loved they were just talking about you in their break room
say what they were it was like the mitch headberg joke where he is at the airport and he's like
a guy goes hey i saw you on tv last night and he was like but he did not say whether or not he enjoyed
my performance and so i just so i turned around and and uh so i turned in a circle and i said hey
man i just saw you at the airport gate and you were okay but they did that was sweet they were
like she looked at my she was like oh hon y'all help you out and she's looking at my boarding
pass and typing things in. She goes,
oh my God,
we were just talking about you
in the break room,
but they did not say
what they were talking about.
No,
but then Jeffrey,
no,
Jeffrey did say something about,
I think that was Jenny,
but Jeffrey did say
that he loved you.
And he said his wife loved you.
Right.
And he wanted a picture with Chris
because he was like,
and my wife really loves you.
So he,
he,
he loved you.
Tell that bitch to watch it.
He knew you from the reality show?
So our flights were delayed and delayed and delayed.
And then we ended up getting to the hotel,
which wasn't our hotel.
And if we would have gone to the right hotel,
we wouldn't have seen the funniest person alive.
Rachel Feinstein.
Yeah.
Yes.
And Nick Brazow.
So wait, when you left Chris uh when you guys left canada your flight was
you were on a different flight like you had another mishap yeah so you got no situation
and again let me ask you this mr optimist like i was so distraught let me ask you this let me ask
you this let me let me first ask you this i'm gonna put you on the spot chris this is what my
dad does are you ready are you sitting down i'm gonna ask you god you're giving me your such
that your dad energy that i feel like you're gonna walk into my room and ask me if i want
pizza when i'm having a nap in 2013 it drives me crazy um but when you are stuck in a difficult
situation and nikki's not around does your ep showrunner energy go away
or does it come back like are you able to counsel yourself in that moment are you only able to do it
when someone needs to i think that's a great question and it i can it it takes on a different
form but i nikki and I were talking about this.
There's something about being observed or being around other people.
Nikki can work better if she's around other people because it's being sort of like witnessed or she's being held accountable. And I have a little bit of that too.
I'm probably my best self in those situations with people that I care about. Because it kind of gives you an opportunity
to have the right mentality
and think about it from a different perspective.
But when it is just you,
you are a little bit,
maybe just a little bit more annoyed.
And then eventually you get there where you're like,
oh, well, this is okay.
And like, I was either gonna read a book here or read a book there.
And, you know, it just depends if you miss a flight outright, like if we miss the show
and we...
But that would be its own like, it would be okay.
I mean, when we're talking about things like the death of a child and being like, well,
something good will come of it.
That's where we get into some tricky areas.
Well, they call that toxic positivity.
And I try to avoid that sort of thing.
So it's like toxic positivity is when people, you know, they come to you and they say, this
thing that happened made me sad.
Like, you know, anytime where you have something, you know, like stuff with your voice or things
where if I was just like, this will lead to you, you know, becoming this amazing whatever,
you'd be like, okay, can I just be sad about me having to affect my schedule?
You trying to deny my sadness when really you just like you have to grieve.
It's okay to feel sorry for yourself sometimes.
And then just knowing or not even knowing,
but leaving space for the fact that something might happen that you don't know about
and that you can't predict out of this but when you were just saying this yesterday on the waking up app
i get these do you ever do sam harris's moments on that where he just no i haven't done those
there's these little like he'll they'll just get sent to you every day if i listen to any more sam
harris per day they're gonna send me an email being like hey you need to back off yeah you're consuming more sam harris than any human should it's hard to parse this but that's the
word if you start using the word parse a lot or if you're like you know that sort of thing is
sort of siloed and you're like all right oh yeah equanimity yeah i wait these are all words siloed
yeah he says is that where you take your feelings and put it in a grain tower?
No, it's a little bit like that.
But I do think that there is,
I do try.
Wait, but can I say my moment?
Oh, but can I say my thing?
Because it's the same thing.
Yeah.
No, you go.
Okay, let's say it at the same time.
Oh, yeah.
No, but the moment yesterday was,
he said,
oh, don't do this.
Oh, my God.
Let me ask you this.
No, the best thing was he it was it happened
yesterday it was the moment that i listened or two days ago and he said a great practice and i
think this is stoicism too when i was getting into that it was um throughout your day when you're
doing something like making coffee or just walking your dog or doing anything throughout your day or
maybe doing something like writing a song or doing a podcast or do maybe things that
are mainly alone that you're not like performing so maybe just whatever making your bed imagine
that the person you respect more than anyone in the world may whether it be oprah or fucking adele
or you know god essentially or you know lewis hamilton max verstappen um alonzo fernando you're really close
on most of those no alonzo fernando that's two different people that's fernando alonzo fernando
alonzo um imagine they're watching you imagine your life as and that's why i like if you if you
always imagine someone that has a really high moral character that you look up to is like they would do the right thing if you just imagine throughout your
day and try to just splice that in that they are watching you you will you will do what's right
well yeah it will hold you accountable in this way that when we're just not being watched
and that's what I get to when when any of those things happen to me alone back to Anya's question
is it takes you as a beat to treat beat to look at yourself as a different entity.
Yeah.
And what would you tell, like if you were freaking out about flight stuff,
like what would I say to you?
And if I'm sitting there being like, oh man, this is terrible,
then you start to treat yourself like a person that you really care about that you want to soothe.
Yes.
That's why I think, you know, in 12 step stuff so much about like recovering from things is like you got to give it away too.
And you got to help other people. but like just going and picking up litter or like holding a door for someone um texting my mom to be
like how are you just reaching out and doing something that isn't about my thing right now
and like helping someone else helps you help yourself in some weird roundabout way i'm at my
best when i help myself but anya what about you and matt like when you who is this is a person
that tends to pick the other person up a little bit more or somebody that gets really down on something that just happened or a mistake that they made and the other person has to like, or is it 50-50?
How do you guys handle it?
GQ, he's great at picking me up.
By the way, GA on yours too.
When I'm down, he's amazing.
He's so level-headed he's like wise he sounds like
someone who just meditated for an hour he's like so even-keeled but when stuff happens to him i'm
like dude and i'm not allowed to say anything because if i go into his if i were to tell him
the stuff he tells me he flips out he'll He'll be like, how can you say this?
You know, I cannot be silver lining girl.
And that's who I am at my core is silver lining girl.
And I need to be careful of that so that I don't do the thing you were just talking about,
about skipping the step of like feeling your feelings. When I'm going through depression or I'm having one of these days where it's like,
I hate everything.
I hate the way I look.
I hate my career.
Everyone hates me.
I'm not telling,
like having those really bad days
that are about like two days before my period,
I will oftentimes reach out to both,
all three of you actually.
And like the,
I,
and a lot of times I remember,
I know that each of you have been like,
how can,
what do you want to hear right now?
Like what,
what is it that's going to
what do you want right now and it's really tricky because i remember when i was in um the hamptons
my friend um where life is really hard where life is like i got really depressed in the hamptons i
was just around too much i was having body issues i was around too many women whose bodies i was
jealous of.
And I was,
you know,
I was in this beautiful house that I was like,
I could never decorate a house.
I was doing a lot of comparing and despairing.
And I,
you know, it just synced up with my cycle.
It synced up with some personal things that I was going through that week
that may or may not have to do with the person on my left.
And,
you know,
this porcupine stuff,
porcupine or Luigi.
And,
and I was just having a really bad
day and i was saying really dark like fucked up things to my roommate who i was rooming with cat
from colorado cat is a social worker like clinical therapist and i was saying things trying to get
her to like help me you know like i was saying like um i just i'll probably have to
just kill myself one day like i say these really fucking dark things of like i don't even know like
what i want to just quit life like just saying dark things to just try to get her to like i don't
know what i'm i don't i honestly don't know what i'm looking for in that moment and i'm like i'm
not talented oh this person's better than me at this i watched f boy last night i look fucking disgusting that one scene i look i was not even funny this other
person's funnier than me and they're not even a fucking comedian and i was just just shitting and
she wasn't saying anything she was just like yeah and it was just and i was like can you
venmo me you're a fucking therapist like yeah exactly and i was just like wanting to like shake
her and then later on she i was kind of venting again in the car with a lot of exactly and I was just like wanting to like shake her and then later on she
I was kind of venting again in the car with a lot of people and I was almost like maybe trying to
um communicate to her like you're my roommate and when I get in closed doors like I can't say
this to the group but like I'm struggling and I need help so I was kind of like trying to
communicate that like I'm I'm in front of more people and she was like I just want you to know
that when I don't say any she took me aside she was like I don't know what front of more people and she was like i just want you to know that when i don't
say any she took me aside she was like i don't know what to say to you and i'm just trying to
like i feel like you just need to like vent it and i thought that's what you needed and i said
honestly katherine i don't need that i need you to say the opposite of what i'm saying i need you
to be like your thinking is you're diseased right now like you have the flu of the mind like you're thinking
that you're gonna have the flu forever but this is temporary these thoughts are distorted you are
on like your brain is on drugs right now pretty much like you are this is a temporary state that
there's a storm right now in your head and they're going to be clear size ahead and don't get stuck
in this like i and she was like okay thanks i needed to hear what i need needed to tell you
and anya feels the same frustration.
I know you do too, of like, what do I say to this girl?
No, I don't feel that way.
We should read some of those texts
because all of those things you brought up to Catherine,
you brought up to me as well.
And we went through, I mean, I think I go through line by line
all the things you always talk about.
I remember the celebrity who you thought was really funny.
Oh, it changes every day. And she's was really funny. Oh, it's changed every day.
And she's not a comic.
Oh, okay.
Well, I feel burdensome in those moments because I am in such a state that is not to be reasoned with
when I'm going through that,
that I feel like if I,
I'm always like thinking about how I'm,
I'm already feeling sad.
And then I'm feeling sad that I'm putting the people I love in this position
of like a no win situation.
Like anything you say,
like it does,
your stuff does get in because eventually I like calm down and I,
it seeps in and I can go back to the text and I can remember what you said.
But I do think that I am sometimes I don't know what I need.
Right.
But for me,
it's like, I am, sometimes I don't know what I need. Right. But for me, it's like,
it's pretty clear that you need somebody to listen at times
and sometimes to listen.
And then, you know, some of the things you come up with
are so wild and not true.
You know, like it'd be one thing
if it was just a feeling that you had.
And it's hard for me to say like,
well, you can't feel sad because I wouldn't do that. But you say like this person is so much funnier than me that person works so
much harder than me this person has so much more talent those are pretty easy to refute or to say
like well she's amazing at this and that's so different from what you do right and there's room
for so many people to be amazing at what they do and you're up there
right no and and i always tell you this too like the reason i go to you three is because
i respect your opinions about things like there's i can't go to my mom or like there's so there's a
lot of people that i'm friends with that i don't really respect their opinions of like the things
they watch and enjoy
and like the level of entertainment that they the bar for their level of entertainment and anya will
we'll forget the fact that you were watching some shit this week but like you guys have good you
guys are artists and you have good taste in things one of my favorite things because nikki will go
through some sort of a crisis because she's exposed to so much you know being on tv and all these things
that there's there's there's you know semi-regular crisis scenes yes to like fires to put out and
anya what i also i always love is when when nikki and i are talking about those things and i'm you
know i'm trying to be there for her and listen and tell her how i feel about those things
is she'll throw in something that you said. And I'm like, man,
I just got some great advice.
Yeah.
I'd love to know what that is. Cause I feel like I know I'm,
I relate to this idea of what is the right thing to say.
And I've learned it is a great thing to say sometimes to certain people,
what would you like?
Do you want feedback or do you want a sounding board?
And then a lot of times people do just need a sounding board and then a lot of times people do just need a sounding board so a lot of times people don't a great therapist there's sometimes
when people say what do you need and i'm just like for me i think i feel like i'm asking someone to
run a marathon next to me sometimes and even though you do it and i feel like a burden and
i feel like even though you're good at it and
obviously you're good at it you wouldn't be in my life like i can't keep people around who can't
handle my depression and like help me through it and you know that i feel like you're the best at
that and i've told you a million times like how much you get me out of those things and right on
this podcast though what you said earlier made me think that you don't think what anya and i are
doing is like necessarily effective no that's not what i'm saying at all or that we're like
implying that that you know maybe we don't know what to do in those situations no i'm just i'm
saying it's it's not that you don't know what to do you figure out what to do i'm sorry that that's
how it came across what i'm saying is and any Anya, do you think that I was saying that?
Or do you,
I was trying to say,
it would be hard to be,
to listen to me sometimes
and come up with what to say.
And like,
that it's just,
it's just,
it would be hard to figure out what to say.
And I'm not saying that because-
Sometimes it is hard for me.
Yes.
But I'm learning-
I would say that Anya struggles with it a lot.
Yeah.
I think with Nikki especially lately
you know in the last couple years you need to get it out you need and and if I were to refute
every point I'd be so busy like trying to focus on each and so often you just need to like let
loose and erupt all the stuff and then I'll try to reflect back what i'm hearing is
you sound really scared or you sound really alone talk about that or sounds sounds awful or you
you know you sound angry or whatever it is just to let you get it out it's like 37 things
that you're and then i will try to the core you're threatened and then i'll try to like argue like
no but it really is if i start sparring with you i'm like oh i'm signing up for an hour and a half
of a battle there's no point in battling right that's what i'm talking about you'll be like
that's not true yeah like i will lose your fight because part of your brain is so it's like intent
on winning and there's no reasoning with it and i'm not saying it's right like of your brain is so it's like intent on winning and there's no reasoning
with it and i'm not saying it's right like but your brain will think no no no no i've got the
perfect argument and i'm like i'm not arguing but that person that person is out of their mind right
now i'm not helping so i'll just be like that sucks dude to want to like you know to be jealous
of this person right now. What do you need?
What do you need?
And then she'll write like 17 more things about other stuff.
And then I'll be like, again, what do you need?
You know, and we don't even need to get around to it.
But sometimes you'll be like, oh, my God, I feel so much better.
I love you.
My sister's here.
I got to go.
Love you.
Bye.
Yeah.
Everything's fine.
All of a sudden, all of a sudden, it's like that never, that never happened for Nikki.
But it did happen for us. That's what I'm saying. That for us that's what i'm saying that's why it's tough like that's why it's tough it's like
right i would resent a person that constantly did that to me and like but i what i am learning from
reading this fucking book about autistic women and like i do overcome things and change my mind
about things on a fucking dime like it's not because it wasn't
how i was actually feeling in that moment and i was just trying to get attention and now i got
my attention and i'm good i feel better and so now i'm ready to it's the glazer exit i'm ready to
just right let's go on to the next thing right but do you ever feel like maybe maybe you're better
at this anya because you've you know lived with nikki and had it longer but when nikki moves on from like goes from you know a hundred miles an hour of sad despair angry
whatever it is and then and then five seconds later she's totally okay but you were writing
that emotion with her does that has that ever kind of affected you where you're like whoa i'm a part
of this now that's what i'm talking about right but that wasn't really what you were saying earlier
right but it's like i guess i was just saying it's just not that it's hard to come up with
what to say it's just hard to come up with like what the fuck was that right what is this what
is any of this yeah yeah that exists like what you know now that you mention it like what is
this moment that you have it's something that'm, that is sort of new to our relationship.
This like big blow up moment.
And then moments later, like everything's totally fine.
Yeah.
I've had that moment so often with her, Chris, and I totally get it.
And there have been times where I've been like emotionally exhausted and I'm like, I'm so it with her i'm running this marathon and then it's like then it's like oh my god my
parents just pulled up i have to go by and that's literally happened and i'm like like wait i'm not
done yet and i didn't say anything you text an hour later and she had the best time ever with
her family and everything's fine yes but then what i've learned is like it's on me to manage my level of intensity am i ready for a marathon today
most of the time no and b am i really like i don't think she really needs someone to run a
marathon with her she just needs a witness so that's what i'm doing now and then i can conserve
my energy so that when she does when it's like oh lauren's here i gotta go by then it's like okay
great i love you bye and then i'm my energy is not depleted i've learned the same thing you know like all the little panics
and stuff happening in montreal you know some in the past those would i would be giving parts of
myself to nikki to rebuild her happiness and joy and i've learned that I can't give those things,
you know,
I can,
but I can,
I can be there for her in a different way, but I can't get on the ride with her.
I have to be,
somebody has to stay off.
Well,
you're not tall enough.
Okay,
we have to go to bed.
Let her up for that.
We'll come back with a little fun game that Noah has whipped up for us.
Thank you guys for getting through that therapy session with me.
That actually felt really good to hear you both talk about what it's like to be an intimate
friend of mine, you know, partner of mine in this world.
Yeah, look at us now.
Thank you for doing that.
And I feel a little bit narcissistic to be like, talk about what it's like to deal with
how hard it is to be with me.
But it was helpful for me to be a better partner and friend
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iHeart Women's Sports all right we're back um all right so I'm here with Anya and Chris my boyfriend
and we are going to play a game of
never have I ever and we are going to play a game of Never Have I Ever.
Just a classic game of Never Have I Ever.
Okay.
So Noah's got some Never Have I Evers
and if you have done it,
you're going to tell us the story of what it is.
Yeah.
What's going on in your head right now?
I think I've done this today.
No way.
I think I've done this exact no way I think I've done this
exact thing today
on your show
I have a few stories
yeah I think so
what
yeah
is scuba diving on there
what
no it's not on there
I'm sorry if I've already
ruined the premise of this
you played this game
on your show today
today I played this one
I did not listen
to your show this morning
I was actually going
I almost emailed you
Noah to be like
hey I want to play this
never have I ever game
and I was going to host it
and then I forgot to get it
from Courtney and so wait if you remember the ones from your show and i want to play this never have i ever game and i was going to host it and then i forgot to get it from courtney and uh and so that wait if you remember the ones from your
show and you want to pepper them in we can do that as well okay hold on hold on hold on hold on
yesterday i was texting with nikki and she said you're so excited you have all these ideas and
games and that you would text me so then i started thinking about like fun games that we could play
especially like icebreaker games,
because I know you,
but I don't know you that well.
And I was like,
you know what?
Like never have I ever came to my mind.
I was like,
that would be a great radio show game.
And then you played it this morning.
I was going to do,
I was going to email you.
This is insane.
You guys look at this.
And I feel like I was going to play a psychic game.
Psychic game.
Look at us now
yeah no
well you're gonna be
on the show tomorrow
so maybe we can do
some of those ideas
that you were throwing
at me yesterday
because they were so fun
I feel like you weren't
that into them
are you kidding me
I loved them
maybe it's because
we didn't get to talk
to it because you
can't really talk
or talk about them
yeah
I was just like
oh I threw out ideas
and I was like
these aren't that good
no I loved them
I was driving
and texting you when I was responding but I freaking loved them and I was like these aren't that good Nikki didn't seem like she liked them that much no I loved them I was driving and texting you
when I was responding
but I freaking loved them
and I even told Noah
about them enthusiastically
being like
Chris is some great
I mean didn't I say that
to you Noah
yes
I've literally forgotten
what they are now too
oh no
do you remember any names of them
it was one
wait you know what
I already know them
no I'm just kidding
wait
oh
you'll find out tomorrow
because I don't know them off the
top of my head but there was a both of them were great okay they were already solidly formed maybe
we'll try them but i know his game is going to be even better okay okay so the rules of the game
i think everyone should have like a sound that they make to like chime in when they have done
it so that they get to tell the story first. What do you think about that?
Okay.
I'll pop,
I'll pop out my Invisalign.
Anya will do.
That is coming from her mouth.
Everyone.
No way.
Chris,
you can have this.
Oh,
that's okay.
Just kidding.
I can't believe this too.
I forgot.
I was going to bring my sounders in for it as well.
Mine is a monster truck.
I'll bring it in tomorrow.
Okay.
So the rules of the game is I read something.
And then if you have done it, you make your sound, your custom sound.
And then you tell a story about the time that you did.
Very easy.
And then if you've never done it, you just don't make a sound.
And we move on to the next question.
So the first one.
Never have I ever dropped acid.
Okay, great.
We're all prude.
Never have I ever.
I dropped it on the ground
when I said I'm not doing this,
you drug dealer.
So I did do that.
You hit it out of the stands.
I threw it on the ground.
Yeah, so I have.
I'm out of here.
Never have I ever accepted
a drink from a stranger.
Just kidding.
Yeah.
Oh.
I mean, it's easier for a guy to say yes,
but yeah, of course, everybody here has.
There's no way that you haven't,
that everybody here hasn't.
Yeah, if you've been to a wedding and they go,
would you like a, you know, this?
Do you remember a specific moment?
I was doing the turkey trot
and there were people on the sides of the road
that had a bunch of little Dixie cups of water
and I fucking accepted all of those.
Yeah, you took them all.
I don't have a good one.
No, I don't have a good story for this.
Oh, also, when I was at a wedding with Chris,
they had these little, Austin's wedding,
these little adorable minty chocolate cocoa drinks
with little barbershop pole straws,
and I sucked it down and had alcohol in it.
It was the first time I had drank alcohol
in maybe at that point six years,
and it coursed through my veins,
and I was just like,
and I had already swallowed, and I was just like, and I already swallowed.
And I was just like,
Nikki, just enjoy this
because like you can't stop it.
Don't fight it.
Don't hurt yourself about it.
Don't be mad at yourself.
You didn't mean to.
It doesn't count.
And just have it.
And just have five more
and then everything will be fine.
I had an oyster shooter in Canada,
not knowing it was soaked in vodka,
and I was feeling incredible.
It wasn't, I ordered it, so it's not the same thing,
but it's an ancillary tale.
But the waiter was stranger to you.
True.
And I read it on the menu.
It said oyster shooter, horseradish,
clamato,
oyster.
It was at a fancy restaurant
that just would list like
fennel,
basil,
artichoke,
you know,
like that.
Yeah.
No vodka infused oyster,
no mention of it
and I had the most incredible time at dinner.
I felt warm.
I felt sexual.
I was giggling
and then I'm like,
something is in, there's vodka in my veins.
Like I'm telling you.
And then my boyfriend and his mom were like, no, there's not.
Relax.
And I thought about it for an hour.
And then upon leaving, I asked the hostess, I'm like, is there vodka in the oyster shooter?
She's like, no, no, it's just, oh yeah, the oyster is marinated in vodka.
I'm like, yeah, that's what I thought.
You didn't, but that had an incredible time.
And the bad oysters are that vodka and like, oysters are not good.
People that eat them, like you're putting, there's just, the fact that you couldn't,
you didn't, and anything you have to shoot is not taste good, by the way.
Get it down.
That's why you're shooting it.
So why are we even consuming things
that don't taste good because it's all to just people are taking shots they aren't doing it
because it tastes but why oysters they don't get you fucked up unless they're soaked in vodka like
what is the appeal of something that you shoot that doesn't get you fucked up i never understood
why you would shoot food like you should be chewing why did you order a shoot do you did you chew i chewed it
yeah and it just sounded like an interesting thing and i hadn't had an oyster in a while
and i was like i kind of feel like it it's a fancy restaurant gotcha you know delicacy
and it was amazing i definitely thought about that you said you were sitting there and you
felt warm you felt sexual you felt happy that
why would this is the same thing when i first had a drink of alcohol when i was in high school
and i felt all those feelings i was like why doesn't everyone do this all the time why it's
well talk to me 27 oyster shooters later all the time when it does give you those feelings like you
just listed things
that none of those things are bad.
Why would everyone not do that?
Do you know what I mean?
I mean, because it ultimately ruined your life,
but the first,
if you think you can control it
and you think that you can just have that feeling,
why wouldn't you chase that forever and ever?
Well, that's what most people are doing.
I mean, most people we all know
drink regularly,
whether they have a problem or don't.
Yes, because they like that warm, sexy, happy oyster.
Yeah, whatever that is.
Yeah.
I've never had it.
Try some Clamato with it.
I'm telling you.
All right.
Next, would you ever?
Whatever.
No, never have I ever been a maid of honor or a best man.
Just kidding.
All right, Chris.
Yeah, for my brother.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, but that's probably it.
Just my brother.
I was a maid of honor for my friend
who had to get married young.
She was pregnant, I think.
And I didn't know that a maid of honor...
Does she have a baby now or not?
She does.
I don't remember if she was pregnant.
If it was like a shotgun wedding, I think it was.
I think she was pregnant.
You love shooting things.
I didn't know a maid of honor had any responsibilities.
Were you soaked in vodka that night?
Yeah, pretty much.
So it was during my drinking days.
But I remember like at the wedding when all her, I flew out or she flew me out.
I was such an irresponsible
friend um and i got there and it was like oh they have a limo and she had her mani pedi done and
all these friends were there and everyone was giving her gifts and it occurred to me
i'm the maid of honor i'm supposed i should have gotten like organized a shower and given her a
gift like i have she needs to ask you to do that. No, no. I did not say. No one is born knowing what a maid of honor should do.
You gotta be told.
All that wedding etiquette stuff to me is exhausting.
I don't want to learn it.
I don't want to think about it.
I just knew I had to, like, do Tim's bachelor party and stuff.
I did some fun stuff.
Yeah.
But you're just, it all feels so exhausting,
especially what maid, like, the maid of honor has to do.
That stuff seems wacky.
I was so grateful when Kat, my best friend from Colorado, the one that didn't help me in my room in Fannin.
I was so happy when I was not her maid of honor when she got married because I didn't want those responsibilities either.
And my sister got married just like shotgun because and i was you know out of town and so they were like just don't worry
about like we're just doing it in the park real quick and then they never had they just had a
reception party so i never had to do that for her like i would gladly do it for any of you but um
i also know that you guys would not require like the kind of maid of honor stuff that most women do
yeah no i don't want that i don't think i want that at all would you actually do it for us if
i was like nikki will you be my maid of honor because your voice went up to a different
i think when you lie your voice goes up because she's like talking like this
but i would definitely do it for you.
No, it was an excitement.
I would totally do it.
I would be so honored.
Really?
Okay, then I'm asking you.
No, you're not because Maya is going to be it.
You have a sister.
If you want to be a maid of honor, don't be friends with girls with sisters
because you're not going to beat them out.
Yeah.
I don't even know that you're supposed to ask your sister. Come girl i didn't know that i didn't know that either and also china
would be much more she's much would be so hurt that you didn't ask her over i'm already that's
more important to china the thing about being a bride yeah both these bitches are engaged
and do you even who's your maid of honor, Noah?
Do you know?
I don't think I want to put that responsibility on anybody.
It's already enough trying to even start planning a wedding.
What is with us?
We have too much guilt.
We should be enjoying this time.
You just don't want all the attention on you.
You feel like it's indulgent.
You feel like, man, you're older. You feel like it's indulgent. You feel like, and you're older.
You're not in your 20s.
You already know what happiness is.
You know what is fulfilling.
You're not getting married so you can have a little party
and a day where you're the princess.
You're getting married so you can have a,
you know, solidify this.
Yeah, just a celebration.
You're not doing it because you want attention,
which a lot of girls in their 20s
are and i do stand by my strong opinion if i ever come back on your show which in on a strong
opinion day because they do a segment called strong opinions my strong opinion that i've
said on the show i am not going to your wedding and i will not if i do go to your wedding just
secretly know that i don't believe you're to make it unless you should not be getting married.
I don't believe in marriages, but if they're in their 20s, first of all, 20s, no.
The only caveat that you can get married in your 20s, and I will believe you that you will last if you've been together at least four years.
You need four years.
You need to have seen at least one president's term together and be in your 30s.
And one Fast and the Furious movie.
Because if you don't see eye to eye on the Fast and the Furious, you're not going to see eye to eye on anything else.
Yeah.
So that's my strong opinion is that I don't believe your marriage will last secretly and
I will be like, congratulations, but I know you're not going to make it if you're in your
20s and you get married and you haven't been together for more than four years.
Oh, that seemed fair.
My strong opinion next Monday? Yeah. If you're on your 20s and you get married you haven't been together for more than four years well that seemed fair my strong opinion next monday yeah if you get if you're on an escalator
okay and and the escalator is over okay get out of the way get out of the fucking get out of the
way oh yeah there's not a time to check your airplanes to check your passport it's not a time
for you to turn to your husband and say like oh which gate are we at like
get out of the way first figure it out later oh my god did i ever tell you get out of the
fucking way pull off yes at a rest stop in in wherever you are on the side of the street you
don't get to just stop when you want to stop unless you're getting news that your parents are
like just died or something like that's when you could stop in your tracks and be like and then
but otherwise yeah get the fuck out of the way get out of the way if you if you
want to look at your phone and you're on the sidewalk and you think you need to stop step to
the side step into traffic i don't want i'm alive if you think you could just stop anywhere you
idiot you idiots people have this thing i think it's a psychological thing when you're getting
off an airplane and we're all rushing to get off we're dying to get off we've been on the
tarmac for 25 minutes the second they get out into the airport they just stop they check they
forget that we're all rushing it's the weirdest phenomenon what is that so true you're absolutely
right i and like you know you try to go to the left of a guy and then he's veering left a little and you try to it is maddening get out of the way and if you
get past because you're walking slow and i jolt past you because i'm annoyed that you're walking
slow and maybe i'm in a bigger rush don't be a little twerp about it and be like well who else
if i don't touch you and i don't slam into you, just let me pass without taking it. It's such an affront that that means you're slow and lazy, which is all you having issues with yourself.
That's your insecurity.
I want to walk fast.
I'm a fast walker.
And I often won't pass someone because I'm so scared they're going to be like, okay, ma'am.
I will just linger behind someone because I'm scared they're going to be mad at me because I make them feel slow.
When people are walking like five abreast at the airport.
I heard it.
Five abreast?
Yeah.
Wow.
Sounds like a total recall.
I was going to say that, but I couldn't come up with a boy movie.
I was just going to say boy movie.
Anya, do you have a strong opinion on anything?
Wait, five abreast, what are you going to say?
I'll forget about it oh i just want to share a story about being at the top of an escalator and
there were these tiny little people there these tiny little jewish people with like seven plastic
bags just at the top of the escalator at jfk and i'm like get out of the way you little tiny jewish
people and then i turn around and it's fucking Lou Reed. No.
And his longtime partner, Lori Davidson.
Is that her name?
Lori?
Why am I not remembering her name?
I don't know. It's okay.
But the chosen people can go wherever they choose.
You get to choose as a chosen person.
I was like, I guess you really get to.
I don't have any strong opinions yet.
Final thought.
Let's do a couple more.
Okay.
Never have I ever played strip poker
or any game that involves taking your clothes off.
No way.
I know that I have.
I know that I have.
I just can't think of the scenarios,
but I definitely have.
I probably have wanted to before,
but I didn't because I had on a gross pair of underwear.
It also sounds like something you and your girlfriends
would do together as just something funny to do.
We were so naked in the Hamptons.
Because breastfeeding was going on,
I just felt like it's time for tits out.
It was just so freeing
i really think there's something about being naked no that is not sexual that is like so empowering
is the show almost over i was topless in the dining room for some reason i remember like
changing my tank top and being like why would i leave the dining room i'm just changing my
tank yeah and these are all women and my nipples are not sexual here.
Yeah, it was great.
Did you guys thoroughly explore the Hamptons?
Did you already do all that? We did a podcast in the
Hamptons with all the girls. That was total chaos.
If that's a euphemism for our labia,
then yes.
I saw
Hollis Hamptons. Did you guys get all your
Hamptons stories out on the podcast?
Did you get to tell all your favorite things?
But not anything you wanted to know,
Chris.
Yeah.
Well,
I'm just asking because like,
I like hearing,
I like hearing Nikki's like stories when she goes and does anything.
So it's like,
I don't know.
You guys brought the Hamptons up and I was like,
Oh,
did I don't know if they thoroughly explored all that.
We didn't talk about the boat,
the boat ride where I got complete.
I did not want to go on this.
There's this amazing thing that could, We didn't talk about the boat ride where Hala got completely... I did not want to go on this.
There's this amazing thing that could... It was almost like a personal jet ski that you can go underwater,
and you just hold on to it, and it goes so fast, and you can go...
You're just like a dolphin.
It's like you're on a dolphin's back.
What you should never do, never go swimming with dolphins.
Please don't support that ever, ever, ever.
So get one of these things.
But I couldn't go on it because I forgot a swimsuit
because I didn't go, I was supposed to go, whatever.
I didn't have a swimsuit.
So I was wearing bottoms that were just too big for me.
So they were slipping off every time I went on this thing.
And the guy that was our boat captain,
I didn't want to be naked in front of a guy.
Like even though there was nothing,
like I was not trying to be like,
like, oh, he's going to like want me if he sees my ass. Like i just didn't want a boy to see me naked but no one else seemed to care everyone
was getting fucking naked in front of this guy and i was like i cannot we are not married yet
and so i didn't get to go on the thing as the speed i want to do but holla didn't holla don't
occur well i'm excuse me it all started with Catherine. She was the trailblazer.
Catherine.
She took her trailblazer.
Cat is maybe, in my experience with my friends,
one of my friends that is the most insecure about her body,
historically, that I have known of my friends.
Like, up there with me, in terms of, like,
having people judge it or whatever.
And this bitch lent me her swimsuit and
she also i think just didn't wear a swimsuit that day because she didn't know we were going to go
swimming and she was like nikki can i just go topless and i was like really and she are we in
greece she posed i was so yeah proud of her i was so yeah she asked all of us in front of the boat. I was so proud of her. I was so...
Yeah, she asked all of us for our consent.
In front of this guy.
I mean, it wouldn't have been a big deal.
And she had not even gotten naked
in front of us girls like that yet.
We had not seen her tits yet.
And then all of a sudden,
she is fully topless in front of this boat captain.
And I was just like, who is my friend?
And why isn't she giving me advice?
That was so cool.
I hope she hears this episode.
She's going to be so hurt.
Kat, I love you so much. But I was so proud of I hope she hears this episode. She's going to be so hurt. Kat,
I love you so much.
But I was so proud of her.
But Hala got on this thing
and I don't think
I've ever laughed so hard
as like,
in like,
the past couple weeks,
which means a lot
because I laugh a lot.
That was the hardest
I've laughed
probably on that trip
was Hala
just going buck wild,
buck naked
on that thing.
You couldn't make it
shoot out of the water.
She literally shot out of the water. You could make it shoot out of the water.
She literally shot out of the water.
You could see her bum come back in.
It was so funny.
Perfect white neon,
perfectly shaped hard buns just popping out of the water.
And the best part was her face
every time was like,
can you guys believe this?
Please, someone do this.
You have to do this. You guys do it. Nikki, come Please, someone do this. You have to do this.
You guys, do it.
Nikki, come on.
Please do it.
I'm like, Hala, I am not as free as you.
I cannot do this.
It was so funny.
But our boat captain looked like an Italian Greek Jude Law.
It was like, is this a movie?
I'm happy right now.
I should have taken my top off i was not about to i just and i just i just didn't feel like he had a right to see that like i just was like this guy does not
get to see he didn't care at all he's i know he was italian so he probably didn't care but I just felt too, I just
for some reason I was very modest. I see
you in the chest all the time.
It's for
the babies to feed.
I have olive oil coursing through
my veins. I love pepperonis.
Okay, one more never have I ever
and then we have to G-O.
Okay, never have I ever, and then we have to G-O. Okay, never have I ever had a road rage incident.
Already told this story, but I'll tell it again.
Portland, Oregon, pulling into a gym, 800 stupid cars in the middle of a fucking freeway.
No one knows how to drive in Portland.
I had just moved there.
What, is this an escalator?
JFK?
Yeah, same issue.
They're parked waiting to get into a gym.
I'm going 40 miles an hour and like, what are these idiots doing?
So I just go around them, pull into the parking lot around them.
There are seven or eight open spots.
So I'm like, I don't know what these people are doing.
Waiting to walk into the gym?
They're obviously not waiting for parking.
And I take a parking spot.
I get out of my car.
An 80-year-old lady with white hair comes up to me and goes,
excuse me, that's not how we do things around here.
I don't know why she was British, but she was.
And I said said are you waiting
for parking there's seven empty spots go get a spot and she's like you went around us that's not
how we do things around here and i go well learn to go back to where i came from lee
it's okay to say that to a british person
and then we got into an altercation and then she said one more time that's not how we do things
around here in portland and i go well get a life right in her face i said get a life and i felt
incredible for 10 seconds and then i walked into the gym and went get a life what the fuck are you
saying it's so embarrassing she's lived a fulfilled life she's like a she's
like 30 grandkids oh and she's like i have one and it's awesome i'm julie andrews and i've had
quite an illustrious career um that is there is something about when you pop off on a stranger
and like let out this rage that like you're so proud of yourself you have that
like julia roberts like big mistake huge moment and then you walk out and you're like that was
embarrassing even though it was cool yeah if other people saw that it's something phil hill's gross
about that yeah it's always unbecoming i had like an altercation with a guy at the gym the best
story yeah i mean it wasn't it's not the best it's not the best story. Yeah. I mean, it's not the best story.
Because the ending's great.
What happened?
Yeah, I don't even really remember exactly what I said to him.
I remember what it was.
Yeah.
Well, it was in the, like, you had spilled some water or something.
Yeah, I spilled some water on the bench.
Didn't realize it.
And he walks from across the locker room and grabs up one of those huge towels
that you know people are using to dry off and he goes let me get that for you and just started like
you know doing this big exaggerated movement you know that he was wrapping this thing up for him
and i was like man i didn't even see that i didn't even you know and he's like oh i'll just clean up
for you around the gym and i'm like very conscientious of like not being in people's way or doing something that's like
untoward remember your strong opinion yeah yes and so and so i'm like i was like i didn't even
know that was there and he was like well why don't we all just clean up for you and stuff like that
and uh and i said something about um something about being, I forget what I said.
Do you remember?
It was something like, you had a good comeback.
I forget what it was.
This went from the greatest story to a terrible story.
No, it was a confrontation of like, you were just like, you know what, man?
I didn't see it.
You're acting ridiculous.
This is a total exaggerated response to this little thing. I didn't see it. You're acting ridiculous. This is a total exaggerated response to this little thing.
I didn't see it.
This is a marbled surface.
It's an art.
Who are you to police this?
You let him have it in a really responsible, I think, measured way,
but also stern and kind of scary.
And I think I was like, you are a, you know, you're a 55 year old man
who is being passive aggressive
to a person that had no idea
he had done something wrong.
Grow up.
Yeah,
I think I might have probably
said grow up
and you said get a life.
Which is the current version
of get a life.
Get a life.
I wish we could,
can we erase that entire section
out of the podcast?
It was such a boring story.
No, it wasn't. The best part about it was that you saw that guy later on.
Yes.
Oh, so I saw that guy like two weeks later or something like that.
And I saw-
Oh, I remember there's signs all over the gym, right?
There's signs all over the gym that say, you know, no gym bags, no chalk all these things and he was he was next to
his machine and so like you know this guy's obviously policing the entire gym you know he's
if somebody spills something it's on him to tell people what's wrong with the gym so he's got his
gym bag i go up to his his weight lifting thing or you know whatever machine he was on and i was
like uh hey what is uh what does that sign say right there no way and i
was like oh no gym bags huh and he was like hey man i just want to say i'm sorry for what i did
i was out of line and i was like oh yeah of course man i was out of line too i was like you know i
probably shouldn't have been that rude and uh and literally hugged on the gym floor. And now every time I see him in the gym.
And they start singing Say It Ain't So.
What's that?
Wait, were you lying down?
You guys start singing Say It Ain't So.
Oh.
Sorry.
Go back.
But every time you see him.
We talk and hang out.
And we're like buds now.
And we talk about injuries.
I'm like, how you doing, man?
He's like, oh, man, my shoulder's all messed up.
And I was like, yeah, man, my calf.
I loved that so much
because I was so incensed by this guy
when I heard this story.
And I was like, oh, I hate this guy.
I can't wait for the confrontation.
And you telling me that you got to this moment
where you got to call him out for the same thing.
He's such a hypocrite.
And to have it just be cut by being like,
I'm sorry.
It's just, it was the sweetest thing.
It made me, it was just,
it was so hot to me. It was a good moment.
Yeah.
Tomorrow, I want to tell the story of what happened to me on the plane when someone was
trying to airdrop me pictures and what I did in response to that.
So stay tuned to that tomorrow.
We'll be back tomorrow with Chris and probably my mom, but stay tuned and find out.
Andrew is out of town in Jackson Hole.
He'll be back on Monday for the show.
Thank you guys so much for listening to the podcast today. Don't be ca-
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