The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #388 Visualization vs. Manifestation, 'Joe Pilates' & 1989 Re-Release Easter Eggs

Episode Date: November 1, 2023

After stopping in Kansas over the weekend, Nikki had a great Pilates class instructed by her best friend, Kerstin. Nikki is getting used to not being good at the torturous exercise created by 'Joe Pil...ates'. Brian is out for this one, so Nikki, Taylor, and Noa try to find an understandable explanation for the learning curve on their own. Taylor brings up new history in Wisconsin. They discuss non-judgment and the difference between visualization versus manifestation. Nikki and Taylor drop some enneagram personality traits. Nikki and Noa recap some of Britney Spears' memoir: "The Woman in Me," and don't worry—nothing gets spoiled. Nikki shares how she found out about Matthew Perry passing away. In the Final Thought, Nikki gives her take on Taylor Swift's 1989 re-release and where she thinks the Easter eggs are hidden. Subscribe to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts to get this episode ad-free, and get exclusive bonus content: https://apple.co/nikkiglaserpodcast    Watch this episode on our Youtube Channel: The Nikki Glaser Podcast Follow the pod on Instagram for bonus content: @NikkiGlaserPod Leave us your voicemail: Click Here To Record Nikki's Tour Dates: nikkiglaser.com/tour Brian’s Animations: youtube.com/@BrianFrange More Nikki: IG More Brian: IG More producer Noa: IGSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:38 Welcome. It's Wednesday. It's the day after Halloween, but we're recording this on... Nikki's scary Halloween. ...Eve. Halloween sounds. Oh, I'm in cauldron. the day after Halloween, but we're recording this on Hockey Scary Halloween. It's Eve. Halloween sound. That's Taylor McGraw. She's in studio with me in St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Brian Frangie is not with us yet. He might be joining us later. He had to go do an appointment and wasn't able to be on time and I had no other... What is he doing today? He's frantic on a highway somewhere. For sure. I know. I just told him, please. It's highway somewhere for sure i know i just told him it's an appointment brian frantic um i told him please don't sweat it like i don't need you grinding tonight grinding like the organ of the like just grinding his teeth oh i don't need any extra
Starting point is 00:03:19 stress in that man's life he's in a lot of tooth pain all the time like somebody grinding and then like a skeleton popping up from a grave is that a thing i don't know i picture a jack-in-the-box which kirsten always says is our period when on the girls chat whenever we talk about we're about like whenever we're like all crying or something or like being like and i just don't know what's going on and usually we get to every time i'm a jack-in-the-box right now because it's like and you just don't know when it's going to go. We never will ever learn. I just thought that mine was gone.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Like, do you ever have it where you're just like, oh, I'm good. Like there's, you take out a tampon and there's just like a little spot of brown. Like it's like on the very edge and you're just like, man. Like a little eye. And it was just up there dry. Like I hate, I want it to be soaked. So I, yes. I hate when you pull out a dry one.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I don't even remember those things. I was like, it's done. And then I just went to the bathroom and I was like, what the hell? Because it was just like all over the toilet seat. Like I get up and it just sprays period pee all over the toilet seat. Welcome to the show. It's like pink when it's period. Yellow plus red equals a pretty like coral color
Starting point is 00:04:27 it's it's it's the like um the color wheel for sure yeah and complementary colors are involved i just love what i've done with my period i'm so excited because it's just another month before jack-in-the-box yeah and then you like flatten down you go like a gas bag and you feel great for a week that's like the best time feel good you feel good i'm don't you feel smarter we've talked about this probably on the chat like because you kind of uh we've talked about how we like bump into things and kind of like yeah or clumsy which somebody read that that's an actual thing that it makes like spatial yeah and that um we've all talked about how we've like gone and said like really dumb jokes or like gone in front of a like kirsten was talking
Starting point is 00:05:11 about she made like a really lame joke in front of like pilates class oh right you're just you're not ever on i went to kirsten's pilates class this weekend yesterday actually yesterday morning and she was so funny she was just like very kirsten you? Did you feel like she was a celeb that you were watching? Yeah, it was like, it was funny because she went to my show on Sunday night in Lawrence. And then I was like, I'm going to your show this morning. And yeah, she does like a show. She like, she's just so good at being like,
Starting point is 00:05:34 now put your feet on the bars and you're going to raise up, touch your heels together, tuck in that waistband. Oh, so tight. Now you're going to go round and round with your, like she just like describes each of things, and she's funny. It's nice to go to a friend's class because, as the listener probably knows about me,
Starting point is 00:05:52 I hate classes because any kind of fitness class, a lot of people feel that's the only way they can work out because they feel the pressure. And they put themselves in a situation in which they can't leave. They'll be embarrassed. There's other people. There's a competitive major. You can't give up. I have. I've straight up just walked out of group classes. I just do corpse pose and pretend I have an illness or something
Starting point is 00:06:16 that they can't question me about. Or like a handicap. Can I just brief time out? That is what Pilates is. All the equipment looks as if you are rehabilitating from a horrible car crash and learning to walk again. And every exercise,
Starting point is 00:06:34 yes, it all, it's like a sex psych ward. Joe Pilates was definitely a perv. Joe Pilates? Whatever his name was. Not like Felipe? I think it's Joseph. I call him Joe. I've i think it's joseph okay i call him joe i've been doing it three weeks so i can call him joe now but he he was a freak for sure all these things are uh sexual but they're also it's all equipment that makes you feel like you're walking
Starting point is 00:06:58 into the physical therapy level of a hospital where they only deal with people who have lost yeah all ability it's like you're taking air at the tuberculosis hospital what is that like you know when you see videos that they're just like all sitting in like wheelchairs by the front windows like taking the air and then they all go or like it or like um one flew over the cuckoo's nest then they all go into the room and get in like the tub or like torture devices reminds me of yeah that just a rehab place where you are literally on bars learning how to walk and people go like good job you know like no shade to those places they are great for people who are needing to learn
Starting point is 00:07:35 how to walk but i don't like to be but that is what pilates is is you're learning how to move your body in the correct way and your whole life has been a car crash taking you away from your regular posture and what your your muscles are supposed to be doing so everything every position feels like you're fighting and it feels like you know because i've sometimes watched movies or something where someone's learning how to walk walk or it's like a um a dateline special where it's like and she's fine the doctor said she wouldn't she's doing it and they're like move that leg and oh you know what i'm thinking of forrest gump i think that's the only movie i've seen where a guy is like rehabilitating and they're he gets so frustrated
Starting point is 00:08:11 and he's falling you know lieutenant dan and it feels i feel lieutenant dan even though they have referenced lieutenant dan several times for me in pilates because they say pretend that you're that you can't use your legs. Like, everything is coming from your core. So that's your powerhouse. So your legs are really just bones that are like, I'm moving a bone. Like, they're not supposed to be your muscle. Like, you're supposed to, everything's supposed to.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Yeah, they don't have power in them. When I move my toe, it's supposed to come from my abs. That's what Pilates is. It makes no fucking sense. Oh, is that your core? Your core is your abs and your hip. And then your, like, kind of upper thighs that wrap around in the back. That's your like powerhouse. And everything comes from there.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And I am using like extension cords for my powerhouse. I'm doing everything from my like low, like my low back is like twist. I don't know. But it's just, it's very interesting to be told, okay, use this muscle. Use that muscle. And she'll like poke at it. And I'm i'm like it's numb i don't know how to feel that i don't know how to move that it makes me feel as if i'm paralyzed and i i have to say that i'm always looking for ways to like empathize with things that i don't understand and i truly i'm not saying that i know what it's like to be paralyzed at all but i know the sensation of having something having a muscle not do not only not do what you want to do but not even know where the fuck that is in your brain to control it yeah you're
Starting point is 00:09:37 like a brick house instead of a powerhouse there's only one way to say that. That's what it is, right? I'm a brick house. That's what that means, right? A brick house is like a stiff man. Yeah. I think it's a sexy woman. Here's the thing though, Nikki. This is very frustrating. The more you do it, the more you'll learn how to use those muscles and it will get easier for you.
Starting point is 00:09:58 It's frustrating to be new at something. That's the truth, Noah. And do you know what? This is the thing that needs to be said more to me to people like me is that it's this i like when they say it's a learning curve even though i don't know what the fuck that really means i just know that it takes a long time to get it people just don't like to say well it's gonna take a long time to learn just say that stop this learning curve thing that makes me feel like i'm the dumb one in the class like it makes me feel like a learning curve is i'm guessing let me try to explain what i think a learning curve is when
Starting point is 00:10:28 they when people say that i do not know i have no idea because it's a graph and it's a math thing that i don't know because there's a learning curve in the class and i'm on the bitter end of a parabola or something involved yes it's this but i think what a learning curve means is it's very hard in the beginning and then once you get it it it becomes easier. Oh, that's not what I thought. If there's a breakthrough, I could be wrong. Will you look it up? No, because I don't know
Starting point is 00:10:50 what it means. That's got to be true. I thought it was like the bad students get Fs and the good students get As. So like you want more students to get Cs. That's what I thought it was too.
Starting point is 00:11:00 They used to use those in class. Like everyone would do as bad as the worst student or like everyone. The worst you can get was, no, the would do as bad as the worst student. Or like everyone. The worst you could get was. No, the best you can get is the best student. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And then it would all go from there. So if a best student got a B, then that B is suddenly an A. And so your D is suddenly a C. Right. That's what I thought. If there was someone good, then you're never going to be good. So what is a learning? When people say it's a learning curve.
Starting point is 00:11:24 It's a learning. What the fuck do they mean a learning curve is a visual representation of how long it takes to acquire new skills or knowledge and there is a graph so this is why i think this bullshit because the learning curve is not what they're saying a learning curve is just a type of graph i don't understand how this applies they're not actually making sense when they say no one really knows what they're saying it It's a representation of what it is. Then it just is what it is. Then it stabilizes over time. It's really hard at first.
Starting point is 00:11:52 There's a steep incline. Is that part of this? That's a good interpretation. I don't know what these numbers are. Once you get to a certain point, it's easy. It's what they're saying, I guess. They should say that then. That would be much easier.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Because this learning curve shit, I don't like to hear that. And I don't even think they's what they're saying I guess. Well, they should say that then. That would be much easier. Because this learning curve shit, I don't like to hear that and I don't even think they know what they're trying to say. But just, I want to hear why is it so weird for people to say this is really hard? It should be hard. I like when people go, it is hard. Yeah, you have to have acceptance of
Starting point is 00:12:20 hardness. When I was like trying to get my eating in order and I was like binging every night and I just did it. Like I was starving all day long and I would start eating late at night and then I couldn't stop. And then that, but that was like what I liked to do because it was like locked in.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Like I get this reward at night and then once, once the fucking barriers, barricades are off, I go buck wild. And it's like the best part of my day. It was during COVID. It was like just a, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:43 it was a really bad time in my life. But when I was like, this is unmanageable and like my life is actually miserable because of this because i'm waking up with all this food in bed when i started to go to like eating disorder recovery like just these meetings they were saying like you're just gonna like if you keep coming to meetings one day you're just gonna get it it's just gonna like you're gonna want to just stop eating like this because for for me, it was like, okay, when am I going to want to wait for me to break this cycle? I have to eat in the morning, which means I've eaten in the morning when I've just finished eating at 4am. So I don't want to eat in the morning. That means I'm going to get
Starting point is 00:13:17 fat because I just ate. So you have to break the cycle at some point, or I have to starve all day through the night and start over in the morning. Like at some point to break the cycle, you have to do something deeply uncomfortable, which is like eat when you don't want to. So I was so frustrated by it. And I kept hearing all these people in meetings talking about how like, you know, one day it was just struck abstinent.
Starting point is 00:13:38 One day it was just like, I just, God came through and I just didn't want to do it anymore. And it was, you know, this was for, no, it's true. Cause some people do have this awakening where they're just like, I get it, you know, and I've had that with certain things.
Starting point is 00:13:51 But then one person in a meeting shared that was like, if you're looking for this to be easy, stop. Cause it's hard, but you can do hard things. And that just, I needed to hear that so badly because I think it goes in line with all the music stuff that I struggle with too. It's like, if you don't get, if it doesn't come easy, you're not meant to do it. And it's like, well, some things are hard
Starting point is 00:14:10 and sometimes the talent is persevering past the hard part. And it's not just like, oh, I'm just a natural. Sometimes your natural ability is the perseverance. It not always is. Some people can, are just like, like Kirsten's natural, I know she worked very hard, but she's naturally inclined to Pilates.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I'm sorry. It's just true. Her body is already like, was already in the right position. Kind of. And she's an athletic person. She's, yes.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Okay. That's true. She struggled through other stuff. She was even naturally inclined to that thing. Yes. She's worked very hard to be good at it. But for someone like me, I go, well then what's the point of me even doing this if I'm not naturally inclined? But I just
Starting point is 00:14:48 have to work that much harder to do it. Am I going to? Probably not. Like, am I going to persevere? No. But like, I think sometimes people don't like to say things are hard because we shut down if we think they're hard. But for me, when someone tells me, oh, this is supposed to be hard, that like frees me. Because it's authentic. That's the reality of it. And because I can do hard things. That's what I can do.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I might not be able to do this thing that you're telling me right now, but if you just say it's hard, well, I can do that because I do hard things all the time. I might not be able to, you know, like I think that this, sometimes my Pilates teacher is just like
Starting point is 00:15:26 i just go that was hard and all i want her to say is like it's supposed to be it sucks in the beginning just say that yeah and i'll keep doing oh you're doing good though yeah like a baby would she did say today she was like you are like this just took a little bit right but like now you're getting it and i'm like kind of like it's two percent easier but pilates is fucking hard and so that's just to say that if you're struggling out there with something maybe just look for verification that this is actually hard and that other people struggle with it because chris took pilates a few years ago and i talked to him about it and he's like it's so hard and it just made me feel so good to hear that someone else isn't just like oh i love pilates it's so good like he's like no it sucks people have different like intelligences too people have like physical intelligence and you are very intellectual no
Starting point is 00:16:17 physical intelligence everything is in your head you're super smart that way so like it it might be easy for someone else but they don't have what you have. You can't, if you try to tell somebody like, this is how you like have a career being a comic or this is how you like write jokes or easily do these shows. They'd be like, that is absolutely absurd. Because you just, you won't,
Starting point is 00:16:40 you might not ever be able to like get to Kirsten's level where really Kirsten's the best. Yeah. Or someone who has that kind of intelligence. You just have to take up- You have to accept what you are good at. You've got a handicap in that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I do have a handicap. There's no doubt about it, but sometimes I just get, I don't know about you guys, but when something is just not, I can't do it. Do you ever untangle a necklace and your back starts hurting? Yes. Is that relatable? Like, do you ever like, if you focus on something so much,
Starting point is 00:17:08 your back starts hurting so badly. It makes me realize that obviously back pain is a little bit psychosomatic in that regard for me, because it's always when I'm doing something like I'm trying to get like a, I'm tweeze a hair that I just can't find. It won't like pick the tweet, like in my back or like, I'm trying to pull out a hangnail that will, I can my back start turning it's like well this isn't a back issue this is
Starting point is 00:17:29 just me being so frustrated at the thing i want to be able to do that i can't um and that's how pilates feels but i was saying oh yeah i took kirsten's class this weekend and she was um and i was i before the class i had to be like what are the other girls like in there like are they really good at it bitchy yeah are they gonna are they to be like, what are the other girls like in there? Like, are they really good at it? Are they bitchy? Yeah. Are they going to, are they going to be like perfect at this? And am I going to be, the thing is with Pilates, you don't stop enough to compare yourself to anyone else.
Starting point is 00:17:53 You can't see anyone else. You're constantly like laying down on this thing and doing weird positions. But in my Pilates lesson today, my, you know, personal training, they like put a mirror upright next to you for every almost every exercise so you have to like look at yourself doing it and it's that is really hard for me that's an exercise in and of itself to just stare in a mirror at your body i would just break down be like i am a cashew i can't look at myself we have that I look like Mr. Burns Mr. Burns I do have that posture
Starting point is 00:18:27 I feel so stupid I do at my jujitsu gym like we have a mirror against the back wall and I always like if I catch myself in it
Starting point is 00:18:35 I just look so dumb and I'm just I just like blur my eyes I'm like I can't look you have to blur yes
Starting point is 00:18:43 we're not supposed to be able to see ourselves all the time it takes me out of. We're not supposed to be able to see ourselves all the time. It takes me out of it. We're not supposed to be able to see ourselves ever unless we like look in the cool water while we're doing laundry for our family of 20 or whatever. You're not supposed to like have mirrors everywhere. I went and got a facial on Thursday and it was this really high end place that takes like, you have to book out like months in advance because this woman is so in demand.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And I had no idea what I was getting myself into because Chris's sister recommended it. And she has all like the top recommendations of like the best things in St. Louis of like these like, just like all the- Can I get a chiropractor? Kind of bougie things. It was good.
Starting point is 00:19:18 So I went to it and she was like talking to me about, she was like, you filled out a form online, but you didn't get into like a lot of stuff I need to know like where have you a trauma in your body and i'm like what i'm like well i had surgery on my vocal cord she's like good for me to know i'm like for a facial she's like it's not a normal facial so the whole facial was like lymphatic drainage oh hell yes pretty much and it was like i held a crystal on my chest. And she just like gently touched my face and did like energy work. And it was. And then I fell asleep so much and kept waking up to myself going like.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Making weird noises. Like it was like seven. It was so seven. It was causing like weird phlegms and sounds to come out of my face. And it's draining out. Yeah. And then at the end of it, I'm not kidding you. At the end of it, she goes, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:10 So she's like, just like, you know, it's over. You know, like when they tell you like, that's all done. She goes, and just don't work out for 10 days. And I was like, what? I was like, I'm going to Pilates right now. Like, I can't. I need. What do you mean? You have to say right now. Like, I can't. I need. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:20:26 You have to say that beforehand. Well, just don't raise your heart rate. And I'm like, what do you mean by, like, no, I'm going to. Like, I do cardio. I'm trying to get in shape for a thing. December 16th, Seattle. Come see me. I can't.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And she was like, well, what we just did is a lot. Like, you have so much fluid in you that's stored. And I just drained it all out. And your body should only raise, it should only be working to get that out of you. It should not be working to do anything else. And I was like, would have been nice to know.
Starting point is 00:20:56 She's like, if you go work out, it kind of just negates everything we did. And I'm like, well, you know what? I paid $150 for this fucking Pilates lesson I have to go to. I'm going to it.
Starting point is 00:21:07 So it was all for naught. And I have a lot of fluid in my face. And by the way, when we're doing gua sha, you know, like all these things where we're like pushing away and up, that is like all going into our brain. Like so much fluid in your brain gets stuck. You got to push it down. And my neck is where everything is stored all of my things are in my neck it's all getting stuck here and it's getting
Starting point is 00:21:32 backed up it's like it's stuck though she said it's stuck in my chakra in my um right here what's this the titty chakra solar plexus solar plexus yeah it's stuck there there's a backup and like a traffic jam this is where they're i'm blocked but it's all backing up yeah it's stuck there there's a backup and like a traffic jam this is where they're i'm blocked but it's all backing up and it's getting caught in my throat and that's what affects my singing that's why in every picture i look like ren and stimpy vascular like like you know what i'm talking about when they zoom in yeah every red stippy when they would get mad they'd be like and then the neck would fall out like you know like stick a jut out and then there would be veins and then they like zoom in and show the blood going like yeah it was
Starting point is 00:22:10 so good i love running stiffy but i feel like that's my neck so it's just nice to hear that that's where it all is i what am i gonna do about it nothing i gotta i i don't know i'm and then i went and got a massage yesterday at kirsten's place. I would think your heart rate would pump the lymph to keep moving it. I know. I was thinking like, let's get this thing pumping out. And she was like, no, your body like, she pretty much said people who do, she was like, do you know any athletes who like live a long time? Can you think of any athlete who's like lived really, really long?
Starting point is 00:22:40 I am vindicated. I'm going to live so long. I don't know. I don't know. I don't really follow people into their old age in terms of athletics. She was like, athletes have constant trauma to their bodies. They're constantly
Starting point is 00:22:51 exerting themselves. Anything you do that's punitive is going to be bad for your body and cause inflammation. Inflammation causes disease. Stop doing Bikram yoga, Carlisle, if you're listening. She was like, people who do Bikram are the most unhealthy people because anything with lots of heat. You were talking about Ayurvedic.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Ayurvedic? Ayurvedic. And you were saying that you were only eating hot things. And she was like, yes, that's good to do. But like any kind of hot things, like that's causes inflammation. You're supposed to exert yourself during like a hot day. You're supposed to relax in the shade on a hot day. But when she said that, she was like, I used to be a bodybuilder, and it was hell, and
Starting point is 00:23:31 it did so much damage to my body. I thought I was in the pinnacle of health, but I wasn't. I don't do anything now. I just sit on my ass. Oh, yes. Thank God I'm right. She didn't say that. She just does gentle yoga and stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Me too. No strenuous activity. You can't fucking win. There's always going to be someone online who's telling you, like, you have to push past your limits. Always keep running more. Run an extra mile. Like, you know, there's David Goggins and then
Starting point is 00:23:55 there's this woman who's like, don't ever work out again or you'll die. So I don't know what to do. We'll figure it out when we get back from the break. 2025 is bound to be a fascinating year. It's going to be filled with money challenges I don't know what to do. We'll figure it out when we get back from the break. 2025 is bound to be a fascinating year. It's going to be filled with money challenges and opportunities. I'm Joel.
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Starting point is 00:26:35 I was in Milwaukee, and then we drove to Iowa, and then we drove to Kansas. Who's in the car with you? Matt and Anya. And we we drove to Kansas. Who's in the car with you? Matt and Anya. And we play question games. We play trivia games. We do history
Starting point is 00:26:52 trivia. I really am dumb. I don't know about any history. Do you know about the new Milwaukee history? What? Oh yeah, about Dahmer. No, Dahmer's predecessor or predecessor after press after presser her name is taylor shub business what there's a new jeffrey dommer in town ladies
Starting point is 00:27:14 and gentlemen her business stop that's not a name is that a name she gave herself yeah but wait who is it it's a serial killer she killed one person okay so's not serial. But she would be serial if she didn't get caught. She's wild. You got to look it up, Taylor's show business. How'd she get caught? So she killed this guy. Yeah, this is where she just had her trial. She watched Dahmer and then was like...
Starting point is 00:27:37 She was very into Dahmer. So they have like a... I was watching a show and they have clips like, Taylor saved 15 pictures of Dahmer on her phone. I was like, how did they know? About you? Yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:48 You know, I was pausing, clipping. Um, so she killed this guy on meth. She chopped him up and like seven, like so many extra. How'd she get him? Romance. It was her boyfriend or like a guy that she was sleeping with anyway. What was their status? It was complicated. I Or like a guy that she was sleeping with anyway. What was their status? It was complicated.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I think it was like on and off. Yeah. And then she put his like head in a bucket. And then his mom walked down the stairs and was like, why is this bucket here? That's what Dahmer's dad almost did. He almost opened the refrigerator and saw the heads. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Well, now it's Taylor. Now we're going to be talking about Taylor. Okay. Well, Milwaukee had a vibe to it. I did like it up there. I like, I love Milwaukee air. It almost feels Michigan-y. It's, ooh, but you've never been there, but it's like Dahmer territory.
Starting point is 00:28:37 You love Dahmer. I love da-dom-dom, da-dom-dom. Girl's trips. Yeah. Girl's trip, Milwaukee. I've still got to bring you guys to Columbine. Snowshoeing. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Let's do that. Girl strip. Of course. Yeah. It's spooky. Of course. But they tore down the school. No.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Oh, they didn't. Oh, man. It still looks so much like it. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I thought they totally messed it up. No, they redid the library, but the outside, there's still so much that looks exactly like what was up. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty. I'm much that looks exactly like what was what was up
Starting point is 00:29:05 yeah it's it's pretty i'm glad that they kept it kind of the same i had to do a girl's trip where we go and do all the murder um scenes that would be fun for two of us yeah i had a theory about columbine and i don't think it's why you like it but i wonder if it's something in the back of your mind so i've been thinking a lot about like what's going on in Israel and stuff, which is what prompted all of this. And, um, and I was connecting it to like,
Starting point is 00:29:33 Oh, school shootings. And I've been thinking about like, um, judgment and how we judge other people. And I'm thinking like in situations like Columbine or like, you know, when there's like a terrorist attack and stuff,
Starting point is 00:29:48 and a lot of people are together, do you think they're judging each other? I would say no. I thought about that. Like if somebody. I'm so lost at this question. I'm so sorry. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:30:01 Are people judging each other? Like for example, like all those high school students. Like how you behave in a school shooting? No, no, no. You know in high school you have cliques and people are making fun of other people and stuff. Do you think in the moment, like in the cafeteria,
Starting point is 00:30:14 all those students who are kind of huddled together and scared, they're not judging each other. It's like this moment where you let go of judgment. Oh yeah, everyone... Like in a sports game. You can't crouch under our table. like this moment where like you like let go of everyone's yeah oh yeah everyone there's like in a sports game oh yeah you can't sit you can't crouch under our table you're a dork go die by the computers yeah that's interesting no you're right in in those in an emergency situation it's kind of
Starting point is 00:30:37 every man for himself but it's also everyone's equal and it did unite columbine in a really big way like i think following the attacks columbine was like you know the and it because bullying was at the forefront of what they thought that whole thing was about that it became like bullying so wrong and we're all in this together kind of thing so i think that uh people yeah it did bring people together but like in a mass shooting situation i would i would be annoyed with people because i think i know how i would handle it if you're like especially if you're pushing people to like get get people out of the way if you climb over somebody i'm like i'm gonna remember tom just did that right yeah like i'm gonna remember that in the next two seconds that a bullet's not in my head i think you're yeah no the titanic Titanic they remembered the guy that dressed up as a woman
Starting point is 00:31:25 and everybody like spit on him for the rest of his life and followed him around town oh because he tried to get he wanted to get in one of the things yeah and they said
Starting point is 00:31:31 women and children first because he was a male that survived so they like just spread rumors or made up they don't know what happened but they assumed
Starting point is 00:31:39 he got women died children died but how did he survive oh so everyone like harassed him his whole life oh my god that's what i was wondering if you meant like the judgment of how you act right if you put
Starting point is 00:31:51 someone else in danger or you ran out and didn't grab a kid on the way out shooting plan like i've run through it i'm gonna run at the guy oh i want to be the one that runs yeah because the thing is don't run in a straight line oh yeah you have to run zig zag on the way there I'm saying this all very tongue in cheek because there's no way I'll know what I'll do in this kind of situation and I have no judgment on anyone who doesn't do this
Starting point is 00:32:15 but if someone can if you can imagine yourself in a situation where you are at a bowling alley you're at a movie theater you're at somewhere where this guy walks in and you are at a bowling alley, you're at a movie theater, you're at somewhere where this guy walks in and you are close enough to them and you kind of know you're going to die anyway or if you just have,
Starting point is 00:32:32 if you have it in you, if you just knock him over a little bit, if you just grab him, if you just like grab his arm, like it really will do a lot to then help the situation but no one but your instinct is to run and i think mine would be too i would just crouch and cover my head like that'll help yeah and not go into it that's always the sad thing is i'm sorry to get so morbid but when there's like i've read all the like the autopsy reports do you read that stuff not for
Starting point is 00:33:01 columbine but i have yeah oh well you'll get into it eventually because it's that's there's only so much information out there and they there's always like they're always covering their heads like that's gonna help and that's always like such a um an interesting i actually think their parents taught them good in a situation like that because you're constantly dealing with adrenaline rushes like when you go on stage and stuff that for you it's so second nature for most people we don't get to experience that on a regular basis i would grab a microphone and start singing um distract everyone back of their knees you do like third grade i would bow um that's interesting yeah i i think maybe i think i'd be better in it because i've just run the
Starting point is 00:33:41 scenario through my head a lot and And when I'm on a plane, that's why I also think I'd be okay if I ever die in a plane crash. I want people to know that I've kind of accepted it a little bit because I've run it through my head so many times of what I would do, what I would say, how I would think. I also have dreams about dying in plane crashes a lot. And so I think I'm more
Starting point is 00:34:02 prepared just because I visually run it through. And some people might scoff at this and be like, Nikki, what the prepared just because of I visually run it through and some people might scoff at this and be like Nikki what the fuck are you talking about but it is true that they if visualization helps you do it helps you perform so whether I don't know why I'm visualizing these things in fact I was visualizing it yesterday on the plane because I was just having a moment of kind of bad thoughts and I was like oh oh no, this could be like manifestation levels of visualization. Because if you think of things too, like all the manifestation books I read are like,
Starting point is 00:34:30 visualize the call you get. I thought you could only manifest good things. Really? You can manifest bad things. And how come like, what about witches and stuff? Well, I would think you can manifest, like negative self-talk is supposed to be horrible for you yeah i don't think you can manifest for other people can you oh you can
Starting point is 00:34:51 manifest good things for other people like they're the book i was reading called like it was joe dispens's book and then there's some book about the subconscious mind i'm so obsessed with this stuff but you can like cure someone else's cancer by thinking hard enough for that. And I know this sounds so woo-woo, but I've never believed in anything like this, but I truly believe in this stuff. It's so interesting.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Yesterday though, I was trying to get into it. Chris and I were talking about our frustrations with our lives. And I was starting to just go, God, you're such a one. Yes. Because he's an Enneagram one one and i know that because he took the quiz that our therapist gave us and um enneagram's pretty legit it's the most legit thing of all because it's based on a test that was written by people who it's based on like categorized ancient it goes way back oh it does yeah it's based on some
Starting point is 00:35:44 like i mean it goes back to like the Sumerians or something. How did they take the quiz then? They just like did it on like a rock with like scratch with another rock. If you're at a party, if you're at an ancient Sumerian party, would you prefer to be the social butterfly in the party? That's how you decide what number you are, what you use to take the test. Like if you use a sharp stick, you're like a one. What number are you?
Starting point is 00:36:05 Five. And what does that mean? I'm the test. Like if you use a sharp stick, you're like a one. What number are you? Five. And what does that mean? I'm the investigator. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. You want to figure out things. I have to figure out everything about certain things, which is just preventing me from actually living my life. What are the good things about an investigator? They can be, you know, like David Lynch is
Starting point is 00:36:21 an investigator, Peter Gabriel, Brian Eno, like that you can be very creative wait what okay so you can be creative yeah like those are very like eccentric creative people who you know pioneered something you can be inventors yes climbing up on salisbury very inventive of them no one's ever climbed up on this hill it's very high my microscope like probably einstein you know like you can be an inventor or you can be like a um like a kazinsky or like a you know you could be a crackpot or you could be an inventor okay same as everyone happy when you got that one you well i just yeah
Starting point is 00:37:00 i mean i knew it i was happy to see who else was a five. Oh, that's always fun. Yeah, because I saw Peter Gabriel, who is the best person in the world. Yeah, I was very happy when my Enneagram had Taylor Swift on it. It did? Yeah. Well, that's obvious. It's a three, right?
Starting point is 00:37:13 Yeah. Okay. And Chris is a one. Noah, do you know what you are? No, I came into girls chat after you did the quiz. I think we need to give it to you. Oh, you got to do it. Yeah, it's really fun.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Eclectic energies, Enneagram. But it does, it just helps you understand. I think it's better, it to you. We gotta do it. Yeah, it's really fun. Eclectic energies. Yeah. Enneagram. But it does, it just helps you understand. I think it's better, not so much for myself because I feel like, oh, I'm me. I kind of get it.
Starting point is 00:37:31 But like understanding other people and what their motivations are and like, why do they care so much about this thing? Yes. But Chris as a one is extremely moralistic.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yes. There is right and there is wrong and there is little gray particular which is a very good equality to have because he is trustworthy that man would never cheat on me that man would never talk ill of me he's like just by like he is just a good person knows what's good knows what's bad but then the bad side of that is that there's no gray there's no like because i'm in the gray all the time and he's just like well you said you liked that yesterday and now you don't like it we were
Starting point is 00:38:08 watching the golden bachelor last night and he was he said some comment of like it's so sad that some of these women like don't even have a chance and when he said that on screen was a woman that very much has a chance and i thought he was referring to her kind of and i go oh no they do and he was like okay and then later on there was this woman that was like, I just love Gary so much. And she talks like this. And I was like, bitch, you don't stand a chance. You're going home. And he goes, I just said that.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And I go, yeah, but, like, I meant it about the other. Like, it must be very frustrating for him to live with someone who is constantly changing their mind about everything all the time. But that's also a good quality in me because I forgive people very easily. I can easily see someone else's side of things. I, you know, I'm not someone who is not
Starting point is 00:38:58 afraid to be wrong. I don't like being wrong. I'll fight it. But if you give me some good evidence, I'll go, well, now I know. Now I'm smarter. I crave being right. So I will switch sides very quickly to be right. Speaking of being right, I was so wrong for so long.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And so was everyone about Miss Brittany Lynn Spears. Oh my God. I can't wait to read that book. But Brittany, Jane Spears. Yeah, Brittany Lynn. It I don't know if that is her middle name but Brittany Jane Spears it's so fucking good I got Noah into it because it was honestly Brittany is a combination of Carla
Starting point is 00:39:34 and Noah her prose is Noah Noah when I was reading it I told all the girls chat I was like everyone's got to read this when I first started reading it it's probably at the library but I can't imagine that it's gonna you're gonna have to be on a wait list um if I had the book I'd give it to you but I read it on my phone I told Noah I'm like I was reading it I go this is
Starting point is 00:39:58 so like she's saying things that really remind me of you like she's just so thoughtful and like she's just a sweet person deep down and i think that she maybe has been misconstrued as like an angry crazy like selfish like kind of dumb person but she's so fucking sweet and i think everyone always says no as lazy stupid yeah but really deep down what you look like i mean did you relate to that assessment that did you do you feel kinship with yeah i like i never real okay so i just wanted to say never listen to britney spears only read all the gossip stuff on her when i was a receptionist and nothing else to do during the day um and going into this memoir and reading about her and learning what like first of all she's
Starting point is 00:40:46 very thoughtful very like highly creative and um like spiritual in a way but not you know not religious spiritual like just like really like a like energy wise and um yeah just like reading about what happened to her the way she grew up, the whole thing with Justin Timberlake. Oh, my God. Can we just like enlighten some people about some stuff right now? Because if you're not going to read this book, it's not two spoilers alerts. And you still want to read it even if we are about to spoil it. I want to know about her dad more than Justin.
Starting point is 00:41:21 There should be criminal charges pressed against her family without question. Yes. Without question. Her father and that Lou woman, whoever that motherfucker was, they should be in prison for what they did to her. Speaking of the creative thing, Britney Spears really is a really amazing artist. And it was stolen from her so early on that we never got to see the potential of the artist that she was because she became just a marketer's dream. She just became whatever these people wanted her to be.
Starting point is 00:41:58 And all of her talent and all of her creativity was sapped from her and she wasn't allowed to be. Let's not even talk about how much she was paralyzed during her conservatorship. It happened immediately. She was sexualized. She was punished for being sexy. She was mocked for being a virgin. She was.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah, it was. She she loved dressing up and being like leaning into like her like girly hood. And that was really used against her in a way, especially with all the interviews and stuff that she did. Even from Star Search. Everything was used against her. Everything was used against her from the very... What she was was always a weapon used against her.
Starting point is 00:42:39 They built her up for the things that she was and then they would push her down for the things that she was. It is our fault. It is the media's fault. It's literally... I wanted out of show business after i read this i was like it's a disgusting it's not the same place disgusting business i don't think it is disgusting but it i think it i think it is i think it's but this is this is still happening to her i just looked at an us weekly that i got when i went to their offices that's sitting on my table in there and i look at it with a new lens of like this picture that they used for the front cover
Starting point is 00:43:09 the emotional journey of britney spears like they're trying to act like they're being nice to her now they still use the picture that made her look distressed and looked like she's not in a good place everything is so manipulated with this woman in particular this book this is what i'll say about it britney um if you think oh yeah she's not that talented britney was the one that decided when they did the ever the old reason britney spears got super famous was off of baby one more time okay right remember that the music video they were gonna shoot a music video in a high school and she was the one that was like why don't we do school girl uniforms was like, why don't we do schoolgirl uniforms? Okay, amazing decision.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Why don't we do it when the bell rings, everyone breaks out into dances and it's all girls in pigtails. That was all her vision, which is arguably the reason she's famous. So anyone who thinks that she was just, you know, something that was plugged into this like plug and play machine
Starting point is 00:44:01 of like, this is how you make a star. Just put this girl out there and make her sing. She also was the one that before Baby One More Time was recorded, she stayed up all night long because she wanted her voice to sound like this. She like wanted it to be like, she thought it would sound cool. So she purposely stayed up all
Starting point is 00:44:18 night long the night before the recording talking and screaming and hanging out and partying. Partying her way, which is like drinking a lot of Pepsi. She's not even that big of a partier. Everything you think about her is just media's lies about her. So I sent you a screenshot of this.
Starting point is 00:44:37 This is really the part, and it's very, very early on in the book. It's when she talks about her childhood and how she used music and performance as an escape from her reality that told me like the fact that you know her career is music and entertainment that was her escape and her like safe zone and we made that and and i say we because i also read into all those things we made that place for her so toxic. And that's the really saddest part. That's the song Toxic.
Starting point is 00:45:11 You're so right. We poisoned that place for her. That was her refuge. She had an alcoholic father who would drink to the point where he was like, couldn't even stand up and would just be passed out on the ground. She had an angry mom who wouldn't divorce him
Starting point is 00:45:24 and get the kids away from him and who would just scream at him into the wee hours of the morning. And Brittany would say, mom, please, he's finally asleep. He's not terrorizing our family anymore. Can you not scream? And she'd be up all night listening to her mom screaming at her passed out father. She had nowhere to go from this, but she had like a happy moments in her childhood, but singing was such an escape for her and then it became the worst thing in her life was like making music because and then what about all the producers that would put her into like during her conservatorship her dad made music like hell for her he wouldn't let her change anything on the vegas show whenever she would go record new music they would purposely pick out the worst dingiest disgusting recording studios so that just she wouldn't be good because if she got good and creative she would have record new music, they would purposely pick out the worst, dingiest, disgusting recording studios
Starting point is 00:46:05 so that it's just, she wouldn't be good. Because if she got good and creative, she would have to like, she would have a voice and be able to communicate with us
Starting point is 00:46:13 that what was going on. So they just kept her recording this, doing the same things that she had been doing for years and years. She couldn't do anything different.
Starting point is 00:46:20 They would only let her play new songs during her changes on the Vegas show when she would be like in the bowels of the stage doing a costume change they would like play music over that and then that's when her new music could be played during her costume changes they and then the justin timberlake thing i know people are probably like i'm not interested in britney
Starting point is 00:46:37 spears can i just say the justin timberlake thing is so fucking wild what happened with this she was in a relationship with justinberlake, okay? She was so desperately in love with him. So in love. They were together years, right? They're living together. They are the it couple. They're both at the pinnacle of their fame. He is just kind of reaching the same level of fame as her around maybe a couple years into their relationship. NSYNC is blowing up. People are paying a lot of, he's now leaving NSYNC. He's going to record his first solo album. He's becoming a little distant.
Starting point is 00:47:10 She doesn't care because she gets it. Like he is just now reaching this level of fame that she's been at for a while. He's cheating on her all the time. She doesn't care
Starting point is 00:47:19 because she cares, but she, you know what, let me know if I get anything wrong from what you read. She knows it's happening. She doesn't love it, but she kind of let me know if i get anything wrong from what you read she knows it's happening she doesn't love it but she kind of accepts him for who he is and she also understands he's young he's newly famous and pussy is abundant and it's just a thing that's gonna happen this is
Starting point is 00:47:35 and that she'd rather turn a blind eye to it she knows it's happening she hears the rumors he's fucking women on the road multiple women every weekend and she's just like you know what boys will be boys not in a way that's like i'm a victim this is just what i have to do to stay with justin she's just like she's just cool about it as cool as one could be mature yes mature very mature very mature and isn't this at a young age for his solo album wasn't this after the whole, do you know what I'm about to say? The what? Okay, no.
Starting point is 00:48:08 So he's working on the solo album as they're together, right? And she's going into the studio and she's not going into the studio to like, because she's on a tour, he's on a tour, he's recording. Then, by the way, she makes out with, she's hearing about Justin cheating all the time.
Starting point is 00:48:22 She has one intimate moment with Wade Robson, her choreographer, where they make out. A guy that both her and Justin know, she made out with Wade. What does she do? She tells Justin right away because she feels terrible about it. Even though she knows he's cheating all the time, she just wants to get, this is her thing, she wants to get it off her chest. She tells Justin, Justin forgives her. They move on from it. Justin goes into the recording studio. He's recording his new album. Britney is supportive. She feels a little distant from him. In retrospect, she believes that distance is because he is writing scathing songs about her
Starting point is 00:48:53 and recording them every day knowing that these are going to be released. And he feels a little tinge of probably like, this is shitty that I'm going home and fucking my girlfriend. And so she felt a distance from him during this recording session then he breaks up with her via text i mean let's not even get into that but they live together what's the biggest thing abortion oh the abortion yeah she got pregnant soup and she did not want to she was very happy about being pregnant and he said to her i'm not ready to be a father do you know what I find to be one of the most offensive things about that story
Starting point is 00:49:29 while she took the I forget the name of the pill but it basically induces the abortion are you 486 it's like I pulled that out but anyway she's having the pregnancy
Starting point is 00:49:44 loss which is incredibly painful for a woman and she didn't say i blacked this out she didn't say how long uh like how far into the pregnancy she was in the book but it's still very painful because your uterus is extracting and all this shit you know aside from like the whole mental aspect he comes in to the room playing his fucking guitar oh god i remember this it was like a scene from barbie dude fuck he brings his guitar but she liked it in the book she liked it noah we we both cringed at that but she was like he came in and like serenaded me with his guitar to like call me she in the book liked it but it was super cringe that he was like listen to this new song as she's on the ground crying like you know aborting their
Starting point is 00:50:34 like having an abortion she didn't want to have or a miscarriage that she didn't want to have um and that's a little sticky subject matter of like i don't feel like she pinned that on him that much of like i would have she pretty much did say i would have had this baby if it wasn't for justin not wanting it do i hate him for that no no he really wasn't able to have a kid i don't think it's fair to like make someone a father when they don't want to be and it was her choice ultimately it's not like he forced her to do it i mean i i'm not she doesn't trash him at all she doesn't trash anybody in the book she just speaks her truth no one that's it no one and that's what makes it so like easy to read and digest and like and feel maybe it's a ploy to feel uh
Starting point is 00:51:11 sad for her because she's being so fair and even about everything maybe it's a ploy that they used we're like we're not gonna trash anyone so you just look like the biggest victim but it worked for me because he can you believe he dumps her over a text message and then the album comes out where he Cry Me a River, where he films a video where it's a lookalike of her. I remember watching this video and loving it so much because I just saw the
Starting point is 00:51:36 pain in Justin's eyes that she cheated and he's following this lookalike around her house and she's and then he hooks up with another woman and he's filming it to get back at her because she hurt him so much then so she is like trashed in the media after this album comes out everyone hates her she's a fucking slut she used to be a virgin she was so proud that she was a virgin which by the way she never even wanted to talk about people made her talk about it she never wanted to talk about whether or not she wanted to have sex or whether
Starting point is 00:52:04 or not she had sex and by the way she had sex when she was 14 she wasn't a virgin she never even wanted to be portrayed as one so then she's obvious so she gets shit on for being a virgin then suddenly she's not a virgin so everyone hates her for being this whore she cheated on justin timberlake with wade robson i even knew that story back then i never thought that justin cheated even though thinking about it now, of course he did. So then she is completely bullied by the nation. Everyone hates her. She goes away for like two years and can't even like leave her house. She develops complete horrible social anxiety.
Starting point is 00:52:35 She is just hold up. He is on top of the world. He's grinding on people at award shows and having like, you know, just he's doing all these sexual things in his performances. And then she finally reemerges and does the sexual performance at the VMAs in 2000, which is one of my favorite performances of all time. It's she does. I can't get no satisfaction into my loneliness.
Starting point is 00:52:55 And it's so good. And and then she gets there's like a senator that asked that says he wants her to die. Like people are saying that she's such a bad example for kids. Whereas like Justin can do whatever he wants. He can make out with women on stage, never gets called a slut. She's a huge slut. Everyone hates her.
Starting point is 00:53:12 And then, um, and then it's just all fucking downhill from there. Like the bitch can never recover because everyone just piles on. And then that, that is the end of Britney Spears ever being like a hero to anyone until the free Britney movement. And even now in the free Britney movement, even I've been like, she needs to be on meds. She's crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Oh, my God. These videos. What's wrong with her? You know what's wrong with her? We did this. If you if it would be insane. I've made fun of Britney's voice before for sounding like a five year old. She's a five year old because she went
Starting point is 00:53:46 she was in a conservatorship that made her five years old again she just gave up trying to be an adult in a situation where you are being told what to eat, what to drink where you can go, where you can't go you can't have access to your cell phone
Starting point is 00:54:02 you have an iPad with child locks on it what would you do? Keep trying to be a 39 year old or would you just go and turn into a five-year-old i think i might just be a five-year-old because you just give up for 13 years she's locked in that so nikki don't make fun of britney for sounding like she's five years old this is what i'm saying to myself of course she would you would too so it's again it's just another lesson and like anytime i judge a celebrity there's like another side to the story that i wish you know i i wish i would have more like um empathy in the moment when i go off on people that i think i understand like what's going on and then i don't so i think
Starting point is 00:54:37 chris the other night when we were watching a documentary i said this i think on the pod the other day but he was like when are we gonna learn that it's never the story that we think it is? That anytime we have a judgment about something, there's going to be a documentary in 10 to 20 years that says, you thought you knew? Well, you had no idea. And she was actually the victim. So I'm going to try to live my life now thinking about the documentary that comes out in 10 or 20 years. They need to do it faster. Just put it out right away so that we don't have to wait.
Starting point is 00:55:05 But these, I'm, her dad needs to do it faster. Just put it out right away so that we don't have to wait. Her dad needs to be behind bars. I probably will change my tune on this one. That's why you have to let go of judgment. He's the victim. That goes with what I've been thinking about. You have to let go of judgment. Yes, because you know what the truth is? Her dad had a horrible, horrible
Starting point is 00:55:22 childhood. A horrible one. He did. Yeah, and he was very abused he still shouldn't have abused Brittany like that no no one should but like it hurt people hurt people that's all we know let's take a break and come back with more guns don't kill people what?
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Starting point is 00:58:12 um this weekend um by the way you're on tour Perry died go see Mickey on tour yeah and I'm on tour this weekend and I'm on tour oh yeah before we get to matthew barry which very sad but um wait i just want to say that when his death got i was the first one to see it i was in a green room with anya and matt and i was like oh my god like it showed up the alert showed up on my phone and they go what i go someone died an alert on your phone oh my god i got so many alerts when someone dies you get an alert yeah i got an amber like amber, I got so many alerts. When someone dies, you get an alert? Yeah, I got an Amber alert. Like Amber? I literally did.
Starting point is 00:58:47 It's a Nikki from who? Like some Amber alert. CNN, Apple News, Hollywood Reporter. Like I get like push notifications from news when there's breaking news.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And that was breaking this weekend. Matt, Matthew Perry. But Anya and Matt were like, who? And I was like, okay, guess.
Starting point is 00:59:01 And I go, could I be any more dead and they were like they didn't know i forgot who they guessed at first um but uh yeah that's really sad but um but everyone i have to also say that everyone dies and it's we have to be we have to do this for everyone do you ever whatever celebrity dies i go oh my god we have to do this for literally every celebrity we know there has to be like this like that's so sad and it's like wait are you just getting the memo that everyone dies yeah people react to death sometimes it's weirder though aren't don't you know that this was gonna
Starting point is 00:59:35 matthew perry was gonna die someday yes it definitely happened way too soon yeah 15 years before it would have been like oh yeah that makes sense it's still shocking but this horror of like oh i can't it's so sad it's like did you yeah what do you know you're gonna die too right like you know that everyone you love and know is going to die or you're gonna die first and be the you're gonna like is this news but some people react to death like they just found out about it when somebody's side i've been prepping i I think about all of the footage and stuff that TV shows and news outlets or radio shows have to go through to do the memorial tribute to them and what a nightmare that must be. Oh, I always think about those people being like, come into the office, Steve.
Starting point is 01:00:21 You got to start going through friends footage. Like, we got to get... Yeah, I always think about the people in the newsroom. Like him smiling and the cameras going click the office, Steve. You got to start going through friends' footage. Like, we got to get a... Yeah, I always think about the people in the newsroom. Like him smiling when the camera's going, click, click, click, click, click, click. And they're like, Matthew Perry has died today. Oh, my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:34 It definitely... It was definitely tragic. It was definitely sad. And it's definitely weird that his last Instagram post is of him in the hot tub that he probably died in. That's always morbid. Uh-oh. Maybe it was purposeful.
Starting point is 01:00:45 I don't think so. You can't recite by hot tub. That would be died in. That's always morbid. Uh oh. Maybe it was purple. I don't think so. You can't recite by hat. That would be too hard. It's really sad. From pickleball. So I've told Chris. I wouldn't play so much. No. I don't think.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Sickleball. Because the Grim Reaper has a sickle. Okay. Yes. So I came up with an idea. The other day. I was. Sometimes I just up with an idea the other day. I was, sometimes I just, my mind has big ideas and then I put them into play
Starting point is 01:01:11 and then I'm like, uh-oh, I got to do this. But the other day, I haven't seen Aera's tour movie yet, which has been out for a while. And I've saw Aera's tour nine times live, but I, the movie. There's a movie about the tour of Taylor. Yes, and it's huge, huge, huge, huge. And it's at AMC theaters only. And it's huge huge huge huge and it's at amc theaters only and
Starting point is 01:01:25 it's usually only being run from thursday until sunday and i have been working every single thursday through sunday since it's been out it's been out for like four weeks but i just haven't had a free time i can't believe you haven't i know so the first one i thought was available is like oh i'm going to be in boston this weekend thursday and friday i can go friday day because usually i just leave a town the day after and I never am just there. So this coming Friday, I'm like, oh, I'll go see it in Boston. I look it up and I'm like, oh, there's a 1230 showing. This will be awesome. And then I'm
Starting point is 01:01:52 looking at the tickets and they're like, you can rent the whole damn theater. And I'm like, that would be fun. I wonder if I can get a group together to go in Boston. I mean, it'll be Anya and Matt, but I wonder and Chris might be there. Get people to RSVP. And then I was like, wait wait it would be so fun to bring fans and besties and i also that that same
Starting point is 01:02:11 day they were like your thursday tick your thursday ticket sales are like struggling so we need to boost those and i was like oh why don't we combine the two if people come on thursday night to the show that's where i'll give away the free swifty passes to come with me to the Friday show. So if you haven't heard yet, if you're in the Boston area or you want to fly to Boston to go to the Swifties Eras Tour movie with me if you come Thursday night to my show
Starting point is 01:02:35 I'm giving away 35 passes because they only let you bring 40 guests to a whole theater. More can fit in there. So many more. Weird. Maybe they don't want it to become too raucous. Too rowdy and raucous. Yeah. I don't know why it's capped at 40,
Starting point is 01:02:50 but 35 people are going to go with me to see the Heiress Tour movie on Friday day. And then I have a show that Friday night, which will be really fun. But I am so fucking excited. That is a really good idea. To get together with a bunch of Taylor Swift fans that are also possibly my fans.
Starting point is 01:03:06 I mean, I think people might just go, you know. People might just tell their friends if they don't want to go. Yeah. Because they don't like Taylor Swift, but they're your friends. I think that they're, no, I hope they don't do that. I think what I might want, what I wanted to do is maybe target some Boston Swifties that don't even know about me. Oh, because they have to go to your show to get it. And then they go, oh my god, I actually like this girl.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Because if you like Taylor Swift, I think you'll like my comedy. It's like as emotional and honest and raw as Taylor Swift's lyrics. I think there's a commonality there. So I'm trying to do some crossover. Final thought, I'm very, very excited about going to see the Aris Tor movie
Starting point is 01:03:44 with a bunch of people that are just so excited. Because the opening night, opening weekend, Taylor Swift Heiress Tour movies were packed. And now they're kind of probably less so. And so I wanted to go when it felt like it was like new and packed. So I think it's going to recreate that feeling. And I'm going to be singing and dancing the whole time. I cannot wait. I am craving Aera's Tour again because I've been listening to the new Taylor Swift album that dropped on Friday. Just doing a little Swift talk for the people that care.
Starting point is 01:04:14 And if you don't care, you might find it interesting as well. So the new Taylor Swift re-release of 1989, which is an album that originally came out in 2014. It was the first album where I became a Swifty and was like this is it for me like this is my girl is Blank Space I was sitting in bed at 2014 listening to Blank Space and I was just like this is the greatest song I've ever heard I love it so much and I will
Starting point is 01:04:36 love everything this girl does for the rest of my life and I've stayed true to that for the past nine years so re-release of 1989 because she is re-recording all her her music so she can own it because it got sold to this guy that she really hates and so now she's re-recording all of her music and it's breaking all the records like her record which was number one back in 2014 is now becoming number one again but it's a re-recorded with her new voice which is like she's done so
Starting point is 01:05:01 much vocal training her voice is so much. Her vocals are fucking insane on this. There are some Swifties that are like, it should sound exactly the same. No, it shouldn't. She is making it sound exactly the same, but she's also she's a better singer now, you guys. And it's more ethical. You should like this more. It's more ethical because there's no drama
Starting point is 01:05:20 and she owns the music. She owns the music and there are things about it that are different like some people if you get into the swifty boards they're like okay this one note she hits is so different the way she says this one line but there is one part in the song i know places which is one of my favorite songs i know places one of my favorite songs of all time of taylor swift and there's this part where she goes and we run baby but it's she goes and we run but in so in the original one she's like um she does that and we run and it sounds fine but
Starting point is 01:05:53 this one she goes and we run and it's like look go listen to the second and we run it is awesome and everyone's freaking out about it saying it sounds so cool because there's like a there's a Britney on it yeah there's she stayed up late the night before it sounds so cool and so good and you can tell that she was like we're gonna actually really fucking run on this one and then there's all these vault tracks which are tracks that didn't make it onto the original album that she is now releasing for the first time one of them is truly one of the best Taylor Swift songs ever written. She co-wrote it with amazing, multi-platinum, Grammy-winning songwriter, one of the best songwriters of all time. She's written some of your favorite songs, Diane Warren.
Starting point is 01:06:36 She sat down and wrote with her. And she wrote this song called Say Don't Go. I know. And Diane Warren did not know that this song was going to be released. She was really sad that it didn't make the original album. She was like, I wonder why. but I guess it sounded too much like another song. It has the same kind of, um, chord progression as the song clean, which is also on that album. So I think maybe Taylor left it off for that reason, but say don't go is one of the
Starting point is 01:06:57 best Taylor Swift songs ever recorded and written is so good. And then there's another, this is my order of vault tracks if you want to know my faves it started out say don't go was number one then it was slut i liked slut the second but slut has fallen in the ranks because other ones have climbed slut stays as a great song but um uh now that we don't talk is so good and it's about harry styles because i asked my fans wait what do you think this song is about? Oh yeah, they dated.
Starting point is 01:07:27 And we all know that they dated because it was like out and about, like it was, they were like out and about during this time of like when she was writing these songs. And in Into the Woods, which, not Into the Woods, sorry,
Starting point is 01:07:39 Out of the Woods, which is a song about Harry Styles. They talk about a snowmobile accident that they were in together. Remember when you hit the brakes too soon? 20 stitches in a hospital room. You started crying, baby, I did too. When the sun came up, I was looking at you. Remember when you couldn't take the heat?
Starting point is 01:07:57 I walked out instead of setting you free. When the monsters turned out to be just trees. When the sun came up, you were looking at me. Okay, that we know that's harry styles so then we have that picture of that like we are confirmed out of the woods that whole thing he cried they had a snowmobile accident they were in the hospital room it definitely happened so we have that from the first album then she releases this vault track and we're like who is this about but the lyrics go white wait red blood white snow and
Starting point is 01:08:25 you're like boom snowmobile accident we know it like this is why taylor is so good we know that song is about harry because of that and also there's another song um that i want to point swifties to where everyone goes what is who is this song about and this is a song off of midnights and it's called question and it's a very bizarre song. Everyone's like the lyrics don't make any sense because it's like, can I ask you a question? Has there, have you ever been,
Starting point is 01:08:51 wait, can I ask you a question? Have you ever been kissed in a crowded room with all of your friends making fun of you but 15 seconds they were clapping too? Then what did you do? And it's just like, what are you talking about? Like like why are you asking someone if they got kissed in a crowded room and everyone doesn't even know what the song is about but that song starts out with like oh it starts with the same start out
Starting point is 01:09:17 is the of out of the woods does and so i think that question is about harry styles because she uses the same like kind of sound in the beginning. Then, this is a deep dive for Swifties, and this is the first time I'm announcing this. So only Swifties listen up because no one else gives a fuck about any of this. I know that already. But this is a big one.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Okay, in the very beginning of... Oh, Dane Cook texted me. Okay, at the very beginning, I wonder what he wants. He wants to know your thoughts about the 1989 re- maybe he wants to know this read it by any chance about in the taylor swift chat room right now chat room at the beginning of is it over now there's like a it sounds like a like a seagull or it could be a seagull or a cougar that got its paw trapped in a thing so see if you can hear it okay it goes okay yeah did you hear that okay that is the exact not showing up okay but labyrinth there's some connection
Starting point is 01:10:32 between labyrinth and um is it over now was that the one that i played before there's something going on i don't know what it is swifties slide into my dms and tell me if you hear the same little and oh like this weird noise. There's something going on with those two songs. They are connected. They might be about the same person. We don't know. I will say, though, that is it over now?
Starting point is 01:10:56 And now that we don't talk and say don't go are three of the best vault tracks we've ever gotten from her. It's so exciting. I am such a lucky son of a bitch to be a Taylor Swift fan because there's constantly new music. Four brand new songs were dropped into my lap on Friday. This is after July 8th when like five or six new vault tracks were dropped in my lap when she re-released Speak Now. I think we have another album coming up that she has definitely been in the studio, you know, paparazzi recording. I'm just so excited to be a fan of someone who constantly releases stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Like, you're a big fan of T-Rex. When was the last time they came out with a new song? I know. I was just thinking Peter Gabriel's not going to do it. T-Rex is dead. But, like, is there anyone you're excited about, like, that makes new music? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Doesn't that suck? It does. I think they just found a new Beatles track, though. A new Beatles track just came out. Oh, they did find a new Steely Dan track. Oh, really? No. Yeah. Doesn't that suck? It does. I think they just found a new Beatles track though. A new Beatles track just came out. Oh, they did find a new Steely Dan track. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:11:49 It's like a jingle though for a commercial for like beer. It's like, Schlitz, the best beer you can get. And who is it about? It's about Mr. Schlitz,
Starting point is 01:11:58 the beer man. So what guy is it about? Who was Steely Dan dating? A sexy man. Who was Donald Fagan dating back then? Good job. Yeah, I know who he is. I love Donald Fagan. Yes. I love his name. I love his voice. is it about who's steely dan dating sexy who's donald fagan dating back then good job yeah i
Starting point is 01:12:05 know who he is i love donald fagan yes i love his name i love his voice i love everything about him he's got quite a face also really into rod stewart i think i'm about to go through a rod stewart face because i'll go through his voice is fucking crazy i love him and i was listening to him at my vocal lesson today because he was like listen to the way rod stewart sings like he's not caring about sounding good he's just pure emotion that's why people love him and i was like i just go but that's really bad singing that like hurts his voice and he goes oh it's terrible it's the worst technique ever i'm like how is this guy still singing 50 years later with that voice does he still sing like that gargling gravel baby oh it's so hot all right we really covered a lot of ground
Starting point is 01:12:41 here thank you so much for being here today taylor on on Halloween. Thank you, Noah. Brian never showed up, but I'm so glad because that means he was relaxed. Yeah. And he was not stressing in traffic. We'll be back tomorrow with Brian with a whole new show post-Halloween. Talk about everything that goes down tonight. Be careful out there. It already happened where you're listening. But we'll be back tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:12:58 And come see me on tour this weekend. Boston and Baltimore. Thursday, Friday, Boston. Saturday, Baltimore. And then the tour goes on and on new dates being announced all the time go check my website NikkiGlazer.com
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