The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #398 Carmen Lynch New Specials, "Grab Bagging It”, Nikki Loves Corns & Comedy in Spain

Episode Date: December 7, 2023

Nikki has her longtime friend Carmen Lynch joining from Astoria, NY, Nikki's old stomping ground. Carmen has two specials coming out, one in English on Mark Normand's YouTube Channel (12/12) and the other in Spanish on Filmin (12/15). Together, they dive into the nitty-gritty of navigating through a comedy special, sharing insights into their 'grab bagging it' writing process and swapping stories about audience members who think it's okay to put their feet up on the stage. Brian agrees with Carmen's approach to conquering anxiety and fear. Nikki shares her tip on manifesting and how she used it after burning her throat. In the Final Thought, Carmen shares what people in Spain like about American comedy. Subscribe to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts to get this episode ad-free, and get exclusive bonus content: https://apple.co/nikkiglaserpodcast    Watch this episode on our Youtube Channel: The Nikki Glaser Podcast Follow the pod on Instagram for bonus content: @NikkiGlaserPod Leave us your voicemail: Click Here To Record Nikki's Tour Dates: nikkiglaser.com/tour Brian’s Animations: youtube.com/@BrianFrange More Nikki: IG More Brian: IG More producer Noa: IGSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to the show. It's the Nikki Glaser Podcast. I'm Nikki Glaser. I'm in St. Louis. Brian Frangie is in Los Angeles again. You're back home? Back after the holiday? And then are you going out again for the holiday back there? I'm going to Chicago

for Christmas to Allie's parents. Oh, that makes sense. The old switch. The old switcheroo. Someone had a tweet that said something about Thanksgiving and Christmas being so close together is fucking insane for how we have to see these people that close together. I forget whose tweet it was. It was someone. Last year, I just

went back home for a full month. I went just back the whole time. Yeah, that makes sense. Why not just stay? Christmas is here. Thanksgiving was yesterday. Christmas time is here. One of the best Christmas songs of all time. I really like Christmas time, but we'll get into that in a second. Noah is here from Arizona. Hey, Noah. Hi. Hi. And we have a special guest today,

a really good friend of mine who I don't get to hang out with nearly as much as I would want to. I feel like if we were in the same city, we'd be getting... I don't know. Whenever I would run into you, it just is so easy to hang out with you. So it was an instant yes

when I heard that you wanted to come on the pod and talk about your new special coming up. It's Carmen Lin. Yay. Thank you. Greetings from Astoria. Greetings.

Oh my God. What stop on the, are you the NQ? The last on the end. Me too. I was Ditmars. Yes, you were. What street?

You can fall asleep, 36th and Ditmars. You could fall asleep on that train And not worry About missing your stop Someone will wake you up It'll just hit it

And it sucks Because the stop Before stops For like 10 minutes Do you ever notice that? It's like Oh yeah Why can't you stop

At the end? Yes Yeah I loved that stop I loved Taverna Kiklades Oh yeah

Yeah yeah And there was a Starbucks That I frequented many times. There's a CVS that's enjoyable. Love that CVS. I loved that. I like that train. By the way, the NQ is like clean. I like those blue seats.

It feels like it's probably my favorite train. It's still pretty clean. Yeah, there's a... It's still... Oh, no, that's the previous stop, the Staples. Yes, the Staples. Sorry. Yes.

Love that Staples. the Staples yes but Mickey you would die now there's they just opened up Burlington they're putting in a Target there's an IHOP wow it looks like a mall now

it's crazy they're not messing around it was already like up and coming but they've just fucking committed to like that's there's tons of people

at that at the end there yeah and now a Target I would always get scared to go to Tar targets in New York city because it just seems like it would just be so picked over. So rundown.

Yeah. So chaotic. But I love a target so much. And I, my, I always say that if you get out of a target without spending $80, you spent no money at target. Like if it's under $80,

it's zero money spent. Yeah. But 80 is what, like you have to at least spend 80 at a time. That's where I feel like, oh my God, I spent less than 80? This is like, I just won money. Yeah. I love a Target.

You don't even have to go into the city now to go shopping. Like if you need something, there's also a TJ Maxx too. Oh, Burlington and TJ Maxx. I mean, because Burlington, they're more than great coats. I've heard that. Now they do more. It's like TJ Maxx, pretty much. Yeah, pretty much.

Or Nordstrom Rack. I mean, they're all pretty much the same. You feel like you're bargain hunting. You feel like you are kind of thrifting in a way because it's so much different stuff. And you can find good things because some of the sale racks are really disheveled so there isn't an element to it that makes you feel like you're like combing for good deals like searching through a landfill which you pretty much are searching through a future landfill um but it isn't that like the kind of the appeal of the nordstrom rack or the tj maxx or the burlington

or the um raw stress for less is that there is a thrifting element to it. Oh, totally. And I love that you called it raw stress for less and not just Ross. Yeah. That's like, I don't go there. It's such an LA, I don't know.

I guess someone called it RDFL. RDFL. Someone was calling it this summer. I was like, oh, that sounds cool. Yeah, it's those places. And then thrifting just makes your hands feel dirty.

That's where thrifting, my hands feel musty at the end of it, going through so much wax. And then your hands hurt. You get cardio from it. And then going to a department store or a place that just has a couple clothes, like if we're talking a Nordstrom that is not like you're not

digging. You don't feel like you've struck gold when you find something good. Well, it's so cheap. It's just laid out for you. It's so cheap that it feels good to go through it. Like I don't like going to the expensive places. Like if I have to go to somewhere pricey, I'd rather just do that stitch fix. You ever do stitch fix? I did it a couple times like in 2013 where they kind of pick out outfits for you Yeah, and then if you don't like them, you just shove them into a bag and send them back I had success with it when I did it I don't know why I haven't done it again because I did wear those things for a really long time

that's so nice too because shopping is exhausting and hell, how often do you open your closet even after us like you Recently think you spend a lot of money on clothes and you go, I have nothing to wear. It's like, it's, it's,

yeah, it is shopping is hell. And Noah, we've talked about how you're like, I don't know how to dress like a woman my age. And I realized like, we don't need to, I was realizing like the way the,

how old you are is how old, and I know people have said this before, this isn't novel, but it's really like how old do you feel i i talk about um we're i think we talked about on the podcast or maybe it wasn't about some woman had a brain injury that like a like a steel rod went through her brain and damaged a part of her brain that gave her short-term memory and so she would restart it constantly and she instantly became an ultra marathon runner because she couldn't she always thought she had just started the marathon

so if you always think you just start something your body can go way longer so much of your mental or your physical fatigue is based on the fact that you know I've been running 20 miles I have 5 to go my body's falling apart but if you were to have a brain that just even with your same

amount of effort you put in have a brain that thinks you just started running you will have more stamina so i think that applies to aging too like if you dress and act young and like actually feel like you're young you'll you'll kind of look it like you'll possess i've seen some old folks dressed young and they look silly i think they're not think they're not owning it then. Yeah. But sometimes it looks weird. It looks weird to see a 70-year-old woman at Forever 21. Yeah, it is.

Dolly Parton even. You were just like, oh, honey. That's not comfortable. Or what about a 59-year-old man with a baseball cap, sandals, and a v-neck who has children. I just feel like when I see a guy like that, I'm like, man, you are in the wrong decade here. Yeah. I mean, some people are holding

on to the wardrobe that they had. Yeah. They're holding on to the wardrobe that they had when they had the most clothes and they're the most comfortable in it. They felt the best about themselves. I'm fine with about themselves i'm not trying to disparage them i'm just saying it does look silly but you have to be okay with that but i am going to disparage any man who wears sandals at any time for any reason even the beach never your man should never wear sandals

never i don't care how pretty your toes are i don't mind flip-flops on a guy really disgusting no that's okay but at the beach but not like do you ever go like when you're on stage nikki and you look down in the front oh yeah they're wearing flip-flops yeah why are they always in the front and they put they put their feet on the stage all the fucking time it's a control thing like it is a control thing this guy the other day he like had a he said some line that was actually kind of helpful it was like a good tag or something and i go i'll allow you to keep your fucking foot on my stage i was like you've earned that that entitled stance that you already had before you even said that nice thing but um yeah there there's always it's rarely a woman putting her foot up on the stage i gotta say they taught women talk they'll be like like to Yeah, women are so chatty.

Yeah. And to you. Last night, I had some chatterboxes just trying to help or just, I think they were just jazzed about,

like, they were just like, yes, girl, like, which is a nice thing, but I think I, happy hecklers. Yeah, but they,

it was distracting, but they didn't know. They were just, and then it ended up being funny because I talked to them, but, and I think I insulted one of them because they were both like, I was like, oh, look at these young, look they didn't know. They were just, and then it ended up being funny because I talked to them, but, and I think I insulted one of them because they were both like,

I was like, oh, look at these young, look at this young girl. And then they were both kind of together and the other one piped up and said something like,

we're young. And I go, not you. I was talking to her and she felt so bad. She was older than the other girl. And I was like, I wasn't looking at you.

I'm sorry. I wasn't, not saying you look bad. The proportion of men who put their foot on the stage to women is the same as the proportion of men to women in the lineup. In the show? In the show, yeah.

Oh, interesting. Possibly. That was a lot of math. I had to think about that one for a second. Carmen, as a female comic, and this sounds like i'm starting out as a joke but like i'm actually commenting on the question that we get a lot about being female comics um my answer is always like yeah exactly my answer is always i just i never like thought of myself i only recently thought of myself as like i'm a female comic and, and I guess recently meaning the past seven years,

but I always just was like, I guess I was living under the assumption that everyone viewed me the same that they view male comics. Like I didn't even think of anything different about it until people made it a thing. And then I was like, Oh, I guess it's this special thing.

And I flipped it into being like, Oh, it's nice because there's less of us. So you stand out more. And like, there's good things about less women doing us so you stand out more and like there's good things about less women doing it even though i think that's bad overall um and also it's special because all my favorite comics are mainly female comics and so i'm like oh i'm in a category of the ones i like the most but what do you do with that question i mean i don't think about it either i

don't know if it's like being in new y York and you're just surrounded by so many comics but I don't think about it until someone brings it up and now especially it's not even a thing there's so many female comics that really it just feels like after COVID like yeah there's a million more comics and a million funnier people and a lot of them are women so I don't even think about it yeah it's a good point I do you ever I was having like a little bit of an existential moment this weekend with Emile Joachim my opener this weekend we were like

talking about like do you ever think about like you have to like go on stage and like all these people are staring at you and like you're up there and you have to like talk for an hour and like entertain them and how fucking weird it is and i was like he said something about that and i go emil i never let that in like i know that beginning of that thought yeah i don't fuck and this is the difference i think this is the difference between people who look at comedians

and go i could never do that and comedians and i'm not saying it's for every comedian i don't even i talked about fargo last week and how i don't think about that masked man with the hammer. Like I just put him out of my, he goes, he shows up in my mind and I go, I'm not letting you in because if I let you in, I'm not sleeping tonight. So the same thing with thinking about how I'm on stage talking and everyone is just like wrapped with attention,

quiet, staring at me. If I let that in too much, I will implode. That's insane. Who the fuck would ever do that? No, because once you start thinking that way, you can't get it out of your head. Like if I put a sweater on and then I'm like,

what if I sweat on stage? I'm like, forget it because now I'm going to think about sweating. Yep. The second you realize you forgot deodorant, you start being drenched in it. It's all mental, but I think it is interesting

because I think so many people watch comedians and go, wow, I could never do that. That all those people are watching you. Like that's what you get told by people who, you know, your friends and family who go, I can't believe you can do it. All those people staring at you and you go, actually, I don't know how I do it either because that's fucking tear. It's not that I'm not terrified of that. It just, I read something last night actually that, oh, I'm reading this book called Letting Go. And it's, he talks about a fear of public speaking.

And he realized he had a huge fear of public speaking. And he realized the fear turned into, I can't. Like he was really just scared of it. So then he started saying, I can't do it. I'm just one of these people that doesn't, I can't do it. My voice goes away. I start shaking. I'm different than everyone else. And then he started kind of challenging that and being like, is it that I can't, or is it that I won't because I'm scared of all the things that could happen. And then, which I thought was a really good advice for anyone

who's scared of public speaking, he started thinking about how most public speakers are boring. Like his big fear was being boring to someone and having people go like oh this sucks and he's like when i think of all the speeches i've listened to in my life most have been boring and i don't hate those people they're still alive living good like nothing happened if you're boring so just just do it and so then he started doing it and not being just releasing the fear which is easier said than done but he just was like fear is a thing that i'm choosing to focus on if i release it it's not there it's only there if i make it in my mind so i'm gonna let it go and

i'm gonna do it then he started doing public speaking he got obviously more adept at it and was like it was easier and then he started saying one time he was he had that fear again of being boring and so right before he talked he was like um I'm not the best public speaker, but I can assure you. Oh, he was getting feedback that he was boring, like his biggest fear. And then he survived it, right? And he was like, okay, I guess I'm a boring speaker, but at least I can do this thing I said I couldn't do before. And I'm boring, but who cares? He literally heard back that he was boring, his biggest fear.

He survived it. So then the next time he gets on stage, he goes've been told i'm uh i'm a i'm a decent public speaker but i've been told i am one of the most boring speakers that you'll ever listen to and everyone laughed and he goes the second i they all laughed i realized i had made a human connection with everyone in the room and the the get the gift of laughter and being able to incite that laughter made us all one and all connected. And I realized that their laughter meant they were rooting for me. They were on my side, which is always the advice I give about public speaking is that no one wants to see you do bad. Unless there's like an evil person in the back of the room.

Was Robin Williams. Yeah. Yeah. yeah I mean I had public speaking fears where I would shake and like had to give I had to go in during recess to give my presentations because my parents called ahead

and said Nikki cannot talk in front of people in the classroom and she won't wow really but even when you I'm sorry go ahead no no no

that's it that's it bitch even when you started standing, I started stand up though. Were you nervous? Like I was so nervous and people are like, I could never do that.

I'd be so nervous. Yeah, we were nervous. Yeah, we had to overcome it. It was like the desire to do it was like that standing in the way. How do you overcome it though? You just do it. You just do it.

Throwing yourself through the wolves. Yeah. You sign up. You sign up you like you sign up if you like noah you just don't have the desire to be heard enough to overcome it yeah is what i'm saying like we all have exactly what you have but we have this thing of like i want i need to be heard so bad or i want to perform so badly that i'm going to overcome this fear of whatever which you haven't done in certain ways in your life because the desire had been stronger than the fear. But you really just have

to do it. I would imagine a surgeon, when I think of a surgeon cutting into somebody or doing an open heart surgery, I'm like, how the fuck do you trust yourself to do that? How could you dig in to someone's body and do that thing? And then it's just like, well, after you do it like 30 times, it's just like a pile of meat. They just have a desire to cut. Yeah. I actually have operated on my mom's corn one time with a razor.

I bought it on Amazon. A scalpel I bought on Amazon because I like am obsessed with watching videos of people getting their like foot corns dug out. Like it's just soothing to me, Carmen.

It's weird. So I thought based on me watching all these videos, I thought I had like an expertise and I cut my mom's foot just very like nicked it a little bit and it is still not healed. And it's like two and a half years later. You guys, it was bad.

I had the confidence of a surgeon. This is TikTok's problem. Everyone thinks they're confident enough to do anything. No, it was YouTube's problem. Oh, YouTube. Same,

same thing. Did you videotape it? Did you videotape it and put it up? No, that would have been good though. I need now. No, it was YouTube's problem. Oh, YouTube. Same thing. Did you videotape it? Did you videotape it and put it up? No, that would have been good, though. I need it. Like, God, if I would have made content

out of it. All of those videos on YouTube where they're doing self-help or how-to and they're like, you can do it, too. All you have to do is follow these steps.

You can't do it. Do not follow the steps. You're going to cut your mom's foot off. Go to a professional. Until then, man, I was so satisfied, though. It felt so good. There have been, not follow the steps you're gonna cut your mom's foot off go to a professional until then man i was so satisfied though it felt so good and i there have been um because i have obsessions with like digging someone's like wart out like carmen it's weird but i understand that more like popping

something no no i'm not into popping i'm into like a dried out crusty wart that i just want to like dig off the calloused skin and like dig it out it's it's my obsession like if I if I could pay to go do it I would but you need like a medical license but I swear to god there was a fan one time who came to the show and how excited she gets when she talks about this I love this and she and she was like I've got she sent me pictures of her planner wart like she was like I will let you dig this out backstage like I don't care and I was like I want to it was almost like I felt like I was cheating like someone was like being like it was like Zac Efron being like I'll let you fuck me like I'm here to fuck you and I

was like I want to so bad it's not that I don't want to I just can't because I will ruin everything it felt like this dilemma inside me. You have so many fans. I bet you anything people would line up to let you pop their whatever. I know, but I can't because I'm going to give them an injury that they'll be walking around with for two years. I'm not good at this. I need to go learn. I need to do an apprenticeship with a podiatrist.

Yes, that's how people learn to do that. But I wish there was community college courses. I don't want to have to go to med school for this shit. You just need a tube of Neosporin and warm water and salt. And some super glue. You don't even really know what the credentials are

of the YouTube person you watch. That could have just been some person. No, they're all doctors. It's Dr. Foot Fixer. That's what they say. Dr. Foot Fixer, you trusted that? No, they're in an office. Yes. There are people that go in. They talk like doctors. They're like narcissistic like doctors. They seem sociopathic

in a certain way. Those are exactly the people you should trust. 100% doctors. I'm Dr. Foot Fixer. I am authorizing you to do surgery on your mother. How is that name not taken before? Dr. Foot Fixer. They have never told us how to do it they are just talking about it because they know that we're at home jerking off to this stuff like they know there's there's they always do it instructionally like this is how to do it if you're

another doctor watching but it's really like you know there are sickos at home like me just drooling over you cutting out this old woman's wart and her talking about her afternoon. It's fucking sick, but I long for it, that content. We're going to have more with Carmen Lynch and about her two comedy specials that are coming out on YouTube

on Mark Norman's YouTube page. One is coming out the 15th and then the other is, or sorry, the 12th? The 12th. The 12th is the English version and then there is a Spanish version coming out the 15th. And those are all on Mark Norman's YouTube page.

No, no, no, not the Spanish. He's not getting the Spanish one. He's only doing the English one. Oh, Tom Segura is? No. Just kidding. H-Y-O is getting a Spanish platform called Filmin. Filmin.

Or Filming. Filmin. Filming. Filming. Oh, amazing. Okay, well, we'll get into all that when we get back with Carmen Lynch after this. Jon Stewart is back at The Daily Show, and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears

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That's a Tuesday. Oh, so Tuesday the 12th. Check that out on Mark Norman's YouTube page, and you should be following Mark Norman anyway, so you'll see it once you do that. And then where did you film it? At the Cellar at the Village Underground. Nice.

And what did you do? Like, okay, because I'm about to tape a special on the 16th. So I'm in like a special prep mode. Tell me, I'm going to make this about about me even though this should be about you but i i just because i want to i'm like dying my life is special right now was your life a week and a half out of taping your special special like is your life like every time you close your eyes you're thinking about it every time you open your eyes there's something to work on oh my god what am i gonna wear oh my god what am i gonna do this joke but like how's the order how am i gonna remember all that was it all that but it was like the day i booked the the date at

the village underground so like six months before or like four months when that started the obsession well think about it because like this is my first one you've done a ton oh so i was like god that surprises me that's okay yes you have albums are yes, special, obviously a lot more pressure. It's yeah. There's a lot riding on this. There's someone who's producing it. All of those things. Yes.

Yeah. And I wanted to do it before COVID and then COVID happened. And then I just kind of pushed it. Like, you know, I did a bunch of late nights and I just was in that mentality where like things just happen.

So I wasn't in the mode of like, no, you got to do it yourself. And I kept pushing that back and pushing that back. And then I in the mode of like no you got to do it yourself and I kept pushing that back and pushing that back and then I read the war of art did you ever read that book oh boy I was in a story when I read that book I was at that Starbucks reading that book I think we were all in a story when we read that book oh my god oh my god it was all about resistance and then I wanted to throw the book out the window because everything he said was resistance I was doing oh like every little thing and I was like I remember putting down the book out the window because everything he said was resistance. I was doing.

Oh, everything. Every little thing. And I was like, just do it. I remember putting down the book because I'm like, reading this book is me resisting working. Like, you know, like I eventually put it down because I was like, now I feel bad even fucking reading a book

because I should be working right now. Like, this is just me trying to create an obstacle from doing what I need to do because of fear, again, fear. And then the guilt, like I painted a lot during of fear again fear and in the guilt like I painted a lot during COVID and I had that voice that was like what are you why are you enjoying your life you should be writing jokes and I'm like yeah I just want to paint leave me alone dude I mean it's that's the problem with comedy or doing stand-up comedy or any kind of job that you don't

leave at work is that when you are not, you could be working on it anytime. So there is never, it's like having kids or having a dog that's constantly looking at you like, you just took it for a walk, but it's like, but we could go again. And you go, okay, I feel now I'm guilty again, even though I think I just did this. There's a never ending guilt. And if you're also, if you're not a made person, like you're also just have to constantly be working just to see if you can get paid at all. Oh, my God. It's like the wheels don't stop.

And then you go home. I mean, you just leave the room or wherever you are and you're like, okay, stop. And then you're like, no, it's still going. I'm still thinking about that joke. Oh, my God. Carmen, it's interesting to me because I do relate to, you know, it's just been, I guess, kind of have been floating along. I don't have to. I get I get the I've had that in my life, too, where it's like, OK, things are coming in.

I was on Last Coming Standing. Yeah. As were you. Tonight's show appearances. You have Letterman, Conan's like like I'm working at you're working regular at the cellar. Like I'm not like really wanting for like that. The next thing will come when they email me about it and i think i was at that point too at a certain point where

i was like oh no they're unless you make it you got to build it if you want them to come like these days especially just saying totally not coming they're not coming like that was the day where i was like they're not coming just they're not coming just do it just do it you know what do you have to lose and then i did the spanish one because i was so obsessed with the english one i was like i need something to just calm me down why don't i just do it in spanish first the village underground and then three weeks later i went to spain and i shot the spanish one oh my god so is it the is the material the same and just one's in a different language or is it totally different? It's about seven. I'd say it's about 75% the same.

Can you give me an example of one English joke that you needed to like change the syntax or the words of in Spanish so that it would be funny because it wouldn't have been funny otherwise? I mean, not off my head, but it would just be more like I flipped the words around or I had to describe a little bit

more sometimes like the subtleties the subtleties or the sarcasm they don't translate and also i i grew up in spain until i was eight so my spanish is like i that's the first thing i say when i get on stage i'm like i talk like an eight-year-old spanish girl like yeah i'm eight so my my version of translating is is different from like eight-year-olds vocabulary and they're like no we love it because i used to be obsessed with like this is wrong i need to talk to a spanish person who speaks like an adult and they were like just leave it it's cute like just talk like that there's so many comedians that kind of do in english only acts they don't use words above a eighth year old great like you can get by yeah with just the words you know and and be extremely funny like

nate's whole thing is being just a dumb guy you know like i'm kind of dumb even though he's a genius right you hear it in the material he's not used he's saying reading stupid he's he's using simple words he's confused by like that's a perfect example of someone who is like can still be genius while operating in it in a quote-unquote a little bit of a dumber um not that i i don't know he probably does use big words better than an eight-year-old but like you can still be hilarious with totally and and he can get all of America that way. Cause then he can get the dumb people too. I don't want to say it.

Thank you for saying it. But it's true. Like he doesn't have to be dumb. You're more accessible. We can talk about Nate being clean and that's why he's accessible, but he's, you know, also appealing to,

he's no, cause he's not dumb. Obviously. He knows how to talk to everyone. He knows how to talk dumb. No, he's smart. He's speaking like

brian reagan too yeah yeah and brian reagan's whole thing is i'm a dumb guy and then he communicates i'm i i agree i think that um there's sometimes i'm like i want to use a big word because it just like really says what i want to say and it just sounds good i like big words sometimes not to be like i'm so smart but then if they're alienating you can't do it um but i also just trust an audience if they don't know a word to be like they're not like is she an alien like there's she said something wrong they're just gonna go that's a word i don't know i it's really funny to me when people hear a reference that's being made in a joke or a word being used and they like act confused like well what was that it's like don't you just know you don't

know what that was right everyone else laughed like that's always a confusing thing to me I'm like not everyone gets every reference and that's it's hard to make everything relatable sometimes it is fun to just have a joke that only certain people might might get and they can go

and they laugh like super loud to be like i know rick and morty and you're like okay we got a rick and morty fan or whatever well they don't have to worry about that with me because i'm not going to use big words in spanish and you're yeah well i'm excited to see your english speaking uh especially you have you are just so funny and so... I mean, you're honest and I like that you're just realistic about... You talk from a realistic perspective and maybe a little bit of a... Not even negative, but kind of like it is what it is kind of perspective. What are the major themes coming from this material? And is it stuff that you had been working on since covet is it like did you find that like whoa this is what i

did i guess my question is because i'm worried about this are you saying something with your special when you got done with it were you like oh i can see a through line of like this is what i need to say at this point in my life i don't think there's a through line, but it does all connect with the previous joke. Yes. And then I, because it's my first one, I, it's, it's almost like you realize so much, your learning curve is so big. Cause like I used to not be lazy, but I would just like, I always wrote new jokes, but I would go on the road and just do my hour, but not really have an order. Like I'd be like like as long as i do those five jokes i'm gonna do whatever the hell no order anything in between never i don't write down any literally

carmen i don't write down anything it's not it's a nightmare to plan a special and i just i always call it a grab bag when i'm on stage like yes i have the five big toys in my bag and santa's bag that i'm gonna bring out four or five and then within that i'm going to go other places and i might go too far someplace and we might not get to my last toy or something but there's there's five that i know can save me and then the rest is a fucking mishmash and i'm just like and it makes it fun it makes it fun and it's so fun it's also lazy i know that's what i'm gonna say like I realized it. I was like, oh my God, I was writing it out. And I was like, this is lazy. Cause I don't want to put something together, but it also gives you a freedom though. Cause you'll have to look at it. It gives you a freedom to not look at it.

It gives you a freedom to be like, oh my God, if I don't have an order, then I'm going to go from mom to therapist if I want to. But then you'll realize like, oh my God uh if i don't have an order then i'm gonna go from mom to therapist if i want to but then you'll realize like oh my god those actually go really well together whereas if you had a list you would have never put mom and therapist together yes well that's why you have to constantly like this is the process i'm in right now is like all the jokes and this is the order we think they're going in and brian is like i've hired brian as like my head writer to like help me on my special because i it truly is like i'm trying to write a tv show and i would never write a tv show on my own like a whole

script and so i'm approaching my special this time of like yeah i want everyone's input of like we see a theme here maybe this could go into this and that is the hardest thing because you yeah i always have had this joke into this joke and then you never realize, oh my God, if this came before this, that could pay off so much more. But then you have callbacks that you're like, oh shit, my callback doesn't work now if I put this over there.

Now I have to switch the callbacks and it's like, it's so fucked. But I will say that I'm really glad that you also operate this way. I think Marc Maron is the only other person that I've heard. I'm sure there's tons more that just kind of grab bag it and don't have a list. Hold on, because after realizing

that I've always grab bagged it, when I decided to do a special, the alarms went off and I was like, girl, you can't do this. You are not doing this for your special. You need an order. Because I will look at someone during the recording. I know I will. I will look at someone during the recording.

I know I will. I will look at someone. They will throw me off. It'll be like my dentist who actually showed up. So I'm glad I'm right. And then I'm like, I'm going to go blank. So I memorized it like a script. And I realized I came up with so many different lines. So much more.

So much more at the last minute. And now when you fucking write it all down and look at it and you have to read and you have to memorize it so then you're looking at the sentences again and you go oh wait there's another chance for another joke here like this is kind of totally the way we work is the laziest way and we've gotten away with it yeah and but when people go nikki you're wow it's so amazing you can remember everything and you don't have notes and you don't go over notes beforehand you don't go over notes afterwards. You don't go over notes afterwards. I'm like, it's not because I'm a genius or like, this is just my artistic way. I found the path of least resistance of most

resistance. Let's be honest. If we're talking about resistance, I found the path of most resistance to actually looking at the hearts, doing the thing I fear, which is seeing my material for what it is. And it might not be as good as I think it is, which is the fear. But also you've had other specials. So when you're done with your special and it's out there, do you like not even look at that stuff anymore because it's out there? You still use it, right? Sometimes. If I'm talking about something similar and I don't remember really what I put in specials after I release it I kind of dump like dump it from my mind and so

I've I literally I've had to ask Brian to go back and watch all my specials because I won't do it and I'm like we just have to make sure I'm not doing any of the same stuff because I talk about the same themes still of like sex and dating and I don't want kids and it's like the same there was one there was one big one joke that I was doing that I did in the last special but it was like I had just written it before the last special and now it's like so it's better but I can't do it but at the same time there's there is a line

like in my last special I say like um you know I talked to young girls I'm like you're gonna age someday I know you think you won't and I hope you don't because I want you to die young and that was like in my last special and I'm really making the same point again this time where i'm like you like young girls i know you think you're not gonna eat like it's okay for me to reiterate something if it's important enough and i found another way to prove it yeah i don't have a problem repeating uh

premises but yeah it's um it's i find, you know, I was crying in therapy about it yesterday because it's just such a stressful time right now. And there's so much it's seeming so much seemingly so much pressure. And I'm glad that you're done taping yours and you can give me perspective on the other side. But there's no more. Keep going. No, there's more. Keep going. I want to talk about something else.

Go ahead. Yes. Keep going. Sorry. Well, just special depression. Well, crying about it. And I just was like, I keep telling myself that Trump is probably going to win and nothing matters.

And that has been helping me a lot to think about, you know, I'm just using that as an example of like, things aren't good, you know, or like, it's another way of saying I'm going to die someday and this will all be forgotten. So just like ease up on yourself like not you know like i always think about people who host snl and it's like the biggest news of like oh my god i can't believe that comedian's hosting snl like this is their big break wow and then it happens and no one even watches it like it's just like life everything seems so fucking big even the biggest thing I could do will inevitably be a blip in my IMDb that

everyone will forget, including my family and friends. Will it be in the deadline article when you die? Yeah. And then her fifth special didn't end very strongly. But then my deadline article will be pushed down to the bottom and will be in the archives someday of that. You know, like everything's gonna be okay.

And then thousands and thousands of years from now, people won't even know any individual that ever existed in this time. I always remember that I will be as remembered as Obama and Abraham Lincoln. We will all be equals in the end in terms of no one on the planet earth. We, this will be wiped out someday and we will all just be bones. Like Kyle Dunnigan always talks about how like most of our lives as humans is this yeah in a grave like for millennia we are like right now

we're like bones inside skin and like but most of our time on this planet in this form is just like like this in the ground and i'm for like getting eaten by bugs 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 is her nephew's like not really this is my entire special like literally that's a line for my special it's like i got nothing so okay let's talk about you were saying it gets worse okay so i thought you did your special and then you were done and you're like no stress right yeah right it's like the stress of editing which you know and i was like now i have to do it twice because i gotta do it in english and i gotta do it in spanish and then i have my editor in english and i had her in spanish the colorist the sound guy and i started getting them confused i was like is joe because I got to do it in English and I got to do it in Spanish. And then I have my editor in English and my editor in Spanish, the colorist, the sound guy. And I started getting them confused. I was like, is Joe with this one or the other one?

You know, all confused. Oh my God. It was like, and I'm like, I can never do this again. I can't do two at once. That's crazy. No, you can't do that. I mean, that is really what an undertaking now that I'm thinking about it because when doing one it's like twins but also carrying them both it's like

I don't even there's no comparison to it with pregnancy because it's not like you it's two separate things that you were giving birth to twins and then raising two babies separately in different languages and then you have to watch them

you don't have a nanny either and then you have to watch them you don't got a nanny either you have a nanny and then you have to like for some reason they would come in on the same day they'd be like okay here's the first draft and then like 10 minutes later here's the spanish one and i'm like and then one of those babies has to go to mark norman's house and the other one i'm like can you guys do one one week and then one the other no they would come in at the same time because they're not connected they're not connected they're not talking to each other that's the that's the the rub is you're the only person that's seeing that these two things are being demanded of you at the

same time i'm a single mother of these babies i'm a single mother no one fucking relates to your struggle and yeah no there's no one you have no one and then now it's like they both they're both coming out and i can't i thought the spanish one would distract me from the english one or vice versa no i have double the stress i keep going back and forth like a tennis ball like oh now i'll be stressed about this one or this one or this what's the stress now it's just because it's edited now and you're just now waiting like for it to come out it's the promo it's the uh exposure like i think it's because i've heard that they get easier over time you just get used to like I'm like what if they hate it like what if people hate it there's no that's not possible

that that is not possible and I think that's a fear I've let go of too because and I had a little pep talk with my friend Greg Warren last night before my show and he was just like this didn't happen by accident like that you got this like maybe you know mark norman is not gonna put it like release someone who's bad on his like you know what i'm saying like he is a connoisseur of comedy so you gotta just trust that there's just no way it's gonna be bad you're you're you've been doing this too long to be bad but you know there's just no one that does it as as much and as good as you that has had the that you could not have had the career you had with all the opportunities because that's a really great way or something you had with all the opportunities because people will fuck you or something.

That's a very nice thing to say. There's just no way. You have to be talented. If you think that people are going to hate it, then that means you're saying that Mark Norman makes bad decisions. How dare you, Carmen? I'm not even making it about him.

I'm saying that in your brain, when someone gives you something, you're like, well, it's your fault. You making it about him. I'm saying that in your brain, when someone gives you something, you're like, well, it's your fault. You offered it to me. Whereas you're like, I'm going to do a thing in English.

And then I'm going to do one in Spanish, you know? And then you're like, you're, you're self doubt. I don't know if you have that where you're just like, what am I doing? Why do I think I'm this shit that I can do too?

Well, that's interesting because you get, if they give it to you, you go, cause I have that with like getting it. I go, I've tricked someone. Well, that's interesting because you get, if they give it to you, you go, because I have that with like getting it. I go, I've tricked someone

and the team we've assembled, like my director that's directing my special directs, he's directed the last 12 Super Bowl halftime shows. He like works with Beyonce and Rihanna

and you two on like one name, like he's best friends with these people and like only works with them and like he's done one other comedy special years and years ago, but he's just like doing this for fun as a favor because he's friends with my boyfriend and worked with him before and i feel so intimidated that

this guy has to like fly to seattle when he just got he got done like with shakira and j-lo last year he's working with usher on this year's super bowl and he's like talking to me about my gangbang joke like it just i feel like this is like so embarrassed. I'm really struggling with like the people that have signed up for this and have been like, believe in me. Like I'm a fraud. I'm there. I somehow tricked them.

They don't really know what's going on. They've gotten tricked into this, but then there's the added thing that I have experienced before of, um, of, of starting something that you go, I can do this. And no one's asking me to do this.

I'm saying that I can do this and no one's asking me to do this. I'm saying that I can do this and well, the, I better fucking do it. And if I don't, what I look so bad, at least I can blame, like you were saying, at least I can just say that was someone's bad call.

I didn't, it's not my, what am I going to turn it down? But this is something that you were like, no, people need to see this. Yeah, I'm good. And, um, it's to see this yeah i'm good and um it's

such a risk but it's but it's it was absolutely the right move what was so reading the art of war was the what got you to that point of going i need to do this like so tell me the moment well it was actually i felt like during covid i was getting depressed because there was no action that i was taking no goal and then um there was a line in the art of war that was like not everyone he was like not everyone but a lot of people are on antidepressants because they uh aren't going through that difficult like fit like that go through it just go through it the fear the fear and I was like I go I just had a connection with that and I was like I think that's me I mean I was on Zoloft like low dose like 50 milligrams and I did have panic attacks and I have had one I had one since I've been off

of it but I mean as soon as I made that decision I I just felt like the depression, I mean, anxiety came in now, but I could handle the anxiety because now I had to just do the jokes, make the list, get the outfit, da, da, da. But the depression, I was just sitting there like- No, this is so what I'm reading right now. I was just reading this chapter last night. He talks about in this book called Letting Go, he talks about how depression, anxiety and fear are way better than depression because depression is hopelessness it's complete it's nothing but if you have fear fear is the next step to courage so if you have fear and anxiety it is a good sign that you have something in you

that that you need to break through and that you can get to that next side to that side which is courage courage is fearage is fear. Courage is fear with like the absence of fear. It's doing something that is going to be painful, but putting, just silencing the fear. That's what courage is. That's what bravery is. And it's one step up above fear.

And that's when you break through to actually the good stuff, that the high vibe things. Like depression is zero vibrations, right? Fear is like a little bit more vibrations, anxiety more. And then you got to a place where it's like your depression will lift.

It's very interesting to think about, um, all these things that we get diagnosed with and be like, maybe it's my approach to, um, my insecurities and the, my fears and like the, all the, I can't do that I have, which are really I won't because of I'm going to look stupid or because I just all the fears we have. And that's so good that you overcame it. The problem is, is when you like read that chapter or you listen to that podcast or you hear that motivational thing

and you go I'm putting this in the action into action you send an email like we're gonna fucking do a special and here's the idea and then you like that you wake up the next day depressed and you're like oh fuck you're like sign up for having that perfect amount of caffeine or like ADD med

if you happen to like there's some times where I've like mixed a perfect amount of like I watched something hopeful and I have like a just amount of caffeine I got enough rest and I'm like I can do anything and let's start a band and then like I have to go to band practice the next day and I'm like I am a person that should not what am I doing and um but I think that that original person is the right thing to do and i love to hear that it's like lifted for you and that um yeah one panic attack when you were getting would would you say that's pretty low for you being off medicine yeah i mean i i can anticipate them

because i i anticipate the fear of having a panic attack before i have the panic attack and most of the time it's like, if I feel claustrophobic, if I'm sitting in a tiny restaurant, sometimes it's happened on a plane. And now I just do breathing. I just sit there and I go, don't like kind of like, don't talk to me. I'm just going to breathe. Yes. You know, and that's good. And again, it's like, if I'm on medication and no judgments, cause you know, it helped me for five years like i wouldn't have done that because i would have been fine so now i'm like don't fucking rush off to on meds carmen again just give it a second and do the breathing and uh exercise i mean exercise i kind of always

did but do it more but the breathing like you never think about you need to breathe right no it fucking works it's so works that just like box breathing or just holding like i breathe in and i just like hold it for five seconds like if i need to calm my heart rate i know that breathing in for four count holding it for five releasing it for whatever like that kind that there's just simple tricks but they're just so much harder for us to reach for the the damn cold showers oh my god really yes just turn the shower to cold i so am adverse to that for some reason no i mean even so uncomfortable yeah the hardest is in the winter or if you didn't work out if your body's still hot and sweaty and you put it on cold it feels so. That's a good idea to sneak them in then.

I've been going to Pilates just to get in shape for my special because I wanted to wear like a kind of revealing dress thing. And it's kind of like I'm trying to use this as like I'm peaking and like I'm going to dress like hot for the last like, or at least, you know, maybe one of the last times. Like as long as I got it, why not? And I've been doing Pilates and that's been a lot of um yeah like focusing on body breathing um uh using muscles I've never used before it's so um it's so psychological and tax like yesterday I went in and I was so tired and

I always feel bad going to a trainer and being like I hate I don't want to do this today but I just was I talked to my friends who are Pilates teachers and I go what do you do if your client like is just not in the fucking mood and they were like just be honest and say I don't have a lot of stamina today like let's do other stuff and we just did all this other stuff that was like mine stuff where I was just literally laying down and I would have to just like you know point my foot or something and it was, it was incredibly hard because it was physically or mentally taxing, but not physically. And I just felt so much better after it because it was better than, I wanted to cancel the whole thing, but it's better than doing nothing. And then I've been doing, you know, some manifestation stuff that has really been working.

But it's, it's, yeah, I, you when it when your special was over do were you so excited and did you celebrate oh my god i mean i first of all i got very sick i got so sick i think i was just holding in all this tension right after and i got super sick and then i went to spain and i was still sick but i got better the week before and then after the spanish one i got sick again so i don't know what i was holding hands but but i um now my anxiety is the relief and i'm like if i could just get used to just not being anxious i gotta let it all go like i read something yesterday because yesterday i was gonna have a mental breakdown i was like attachment is bad and i was like oh i love that just detach from all of your projects everything detach from

everything because then attachment can be like codependency or expectations or whatever so just detach detach move on so now i'm like okay what's my next project i'm just gonna move on like i'm gonna okay instead of worrying about after but detachment is like if you don't attach to anything then you're like not even experiencing humanity. Yes, after. It makes sense to detach once you really can't control anything right now. What's done is done.

You can go on podcasts and you can work towards promoting and talking about and getting the word out. Worrying about, is it good? Sorry, it's in the can. It's over. That's like, detach from that immediately because no amount of thinking

is going to change the algorithm the best time to start a new project is as soon as one project ends exactly that's a really good point

the detached thing or if you're like if you go out for a job interview or if you're waiting to see if something gets picked up or whatever

the best thing to do is to start a new project and then the outcome of that thing that you have no control over doesn't matter as much because now you're focused on this new thing.

On the next thing. That's a good point. It's kind of like dating. Go ahead. Yes. Oh my God. No, I was just going to do a cool segue and say

we're going to detach from this segment and go to a break. You can still do it. And we'll be back with more after that. I just did. We'll be right back.

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're talking about detachment, or we were before. And yeah, you said just like a breakup like move on to the next thing i don't think that's a bad thing like have have your little um if i'm quoting taylor swift lore have your matt healy before you get to your travis kelsey like nice

have a little fun like yeah um get distracted from your sadness this is another thing that helped a lot too. And I think this was from like Mel Robbins or someone who knows. Oh yeah, yeah. But like if you're anxious about something and cause anxiety and excitement are the same energy. So if you say I'm excited when you're anxious,

it actually does change it to the energy. It's weird. Like think about when you're, and just go, I'm excited. And then you start going, I'm excited. I am excited. Yeah, because that is what anxiety is.

Like you are getting too excited. Yeah, it's like you're excited, but yeah, it's like negative excitement, anxiety. That's a really, I love that. Your subconscious also doesn't understand like sarcasm or lies. So if you just say, I'm excited, it doesn't know that you're lying. And your subconscious will take that information and act on it.

I've been a fucking psycho with this manifestation stuff. I have been hilarious. Because I've always really struggled with looking myself in the mirror and being like, you're beautiful and you're hilarious and you're going to kill it tonight. That really makes me just... My friends on my girls chat have been like, just go look in the mirror right now and tell yourself that you're beautiful. Say, I love you, Nikki. I love you, Nikki. And I'm like, I can't, I'm not going to do that. Like there's, I know that would help. I'm never going to do it. So my new thing, and I've talked about this on the

podcast already, but I went kind of bonanza with it this weekend is I go like before a show, right? That I'm like not in the mood to do. And I'm feeling anxious about, cause I have to, you know, work on the order and it's not just a normal show anymore, Carmen, you know, I'm reading a set list and I'm like, it's just not fun to perform right now. It is once you get into flow, but whatever. So I'm feeling anxious and I just turned to Anya and I go, isn't it crazy that I'm so worried about this set right now but it's gonna be like the best set of my life tonight isn't that so wild that like i manifested this set to be like the greatest set of my life that everything felt easy and flowed so nicely

it's so weird like that's my new and she's kind of like what like i just keep doing i spring it on people without them knowing i go isn't it wild that oh this is a one i burnt the fuck out of my throat drinking some tea on thursday night i like gulped down this tea too fast in my like vocal cords and like i i have a lot of vocal cord trauma and like i've had surgery it was like oh no what did i do and i have to tape the special and i was like coughing and gagging and like i couldn't sleep i couldn't lay horizontal because I was like my throat is so damaged the skin is gonna be flaking I'm gonna be chucking like coughing up chunks like it was burnt I could feel it I've never felt this pain in my life in that way and I was like you're such an idiot why

did you do this and then I was like wait just let's try to manifest something because I gotta sleep I'm in Toronto I got a 10-hour tomorrow. I have to do two shows. Like I don't have time to stay up and worry about this. So I just go, it's so crazy that I burnt my mouth or I burnt my throat so badly. And tomorrow my throat never felt more supple or like young and youthful and healed and like ooey gooey. It's so crazy that my vocal cords like have never felt better after I burnt it. That's wild that this worked, that saying this right now made that tomorrow. It's gonna be wild to feel that.

And I promise you guys, I woke up the next day, no side effects from it. Did they feel the best they've ever felt? I don't know if that's true, but they certainly were indiscernible from the best they've ever felt. I did an injury that was out without question i was like gagging on water because it was hurt to

even drink water i was choking i was coughing i couldn't sleep as soon as i started talking like that i just relaxed i was able to go to sleep and i woke up and had no memory of burning my throat until later that day that's so weird this is it just try this shit when you can and do it in like a comical way of like, Oh my God, I can't believe tomorrow that guy's going to call me that I've like, or whatever it is. Like it's worth a try because it's less embarrassing doing that than saying you are beautiful and your throat is fine.

Like in the mirror, gazing at yourself. You can get over the self-consciousness of it by being sarcastic and making it a joke. Yes. Because your subconscious doesn't know the difference anyway. So if you want it as a comedian, be like,

Oh, tomorrow's going to be the best day of my life. I can't believe tomorrow is the best day of my life. And it's happening tomorrow. Isn't that crazy? I'm being incredulous about the truth. And your subconscious is like, Oh,

it really, really? It's like a dog. Yes, because that's how I talk normally to myself. So I'm tricking my subconscious into actually thinking that's true because I do like that

your subconscious is autistic and has no sense of irony, no sense of sarcasm, takes everything at its word. I think that's very adorable. Yeah. It's like a dog. If you go to your dog and you go,

do you want a treat? You want a treat? They'll get excited for a treat. But dog and you go do you want a treat you want a treat they'll get excited for a treat but if you go do you want a treat well actually maybe that's not a good wait that's the opposite of it final thought okay yeah um okay so carmen your specials coming out everyone has to watch it i mean because your fear now is that no one's going to watch it the like are you fearing of like there's not going to be enough views yes like the comments are going to be shitty? Totally. Because I'm like,

I don't know who's going to troll on YouTube. Yeah. Or who's going to say like, your Spanish sucks, bitch. Go back to America. Well, that might happen. But first of all, I would,

could you get to a place where you don't read the comments? Oh, totally. No, no, no. That's fine. You might not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to.

Yeah, I think you should not read the comments. And also, I know for a fact that I'm not going to say that because the people that do troll and go like women aren't funny. Let's say that Mark Norman fans that might think that they always pick like one girl to like so that they justify themselves as not being, you know, incels that just hate women. So they. And you're going to gonna you should be that you should be a one girl that everyone goes clearly women are funny but they're gonna give

that to you because he's given the dumb ones who just follow whatever he says and this is not just saying mark norman's fans i love mark norman so i'm a mark norman fan i'm just saying any kind of like these guy comic fans that are like, that might hate women, they usually like one and they're gonna, it's gonna be, it's gonna be you. It really will

because, first of all, you are as good as any comic that they would ever, you know, hold you up against, if not better.

And you also, there's, there's no gimmick with you where you can like, throw like throw like oh she's just trying to do this thing like you really are a just a comics comic you're a fucking you're just one of the best and so it's without question they're gonna love it i'm gonna record that i'm gonna listen to that every day just because you make me feel so much better it really is true it's just no every comic knows you're great and like, we just all can't be wrong.

And so, whether, the audience will get that because they'll follow our lead and like, you know, the savvy ones tend to like the comics that comics like.

And yeah, but I would have those same, I have those same fears whenever I do anything on a male comics platform. But do you ever, and I don't mean to put in fears in your head but like i always fear those kinds of fans do you feel like now that you've done so many specials

though that all those fears just get lighter and lighter or do they just stay you know what i've realized is that no they stay each time it feels like this is do or die it always feels like the first time like it i will say that but the that. But the aftermath of how it's received, way less pressure than I thought it would be. And things have not always been a fucking huge big splash for me in terms of my specials. I mean, they've come and gone with fanfare, without fanfare, and it's all kind of felt the same.

Really, the amount of times I've survived putting something out that I put so much work into and it wasn't watched a lot or it just didn't strike a chord it doesn't it i didn't take it personally and i i hope that for you because i i think it surprised me that i didn't but i think you won't too because the first of all everything's oversaturated there's too much to watch so you can always have that in the back of your head of like, it just didn't cut through. And like,

it just, you know, and it's all the hard work is done and it's like, you can, you can't control it. So you, you can kind of let that go. So I,

I'm, I'm happy to say that. However, my special does, um, I know that I'll be okay, even if it fucking tanks, because I know it's good because it's,

there's no question. It's funny because I do have that and right now as I'm talking to you doing comedy 20 years you can't at the rate of doing it if I was bad

that would be it would be impossible remarkable it would actually be very impressive I've seen it happen damn I've seen it happen

I've seen not 20 but maybe 15, 10 I've seen people 15, 10 sure you're still not funny at all but 20 you got you're still not funny at all. But 20, you're not bad. No one has been doing it 20 years and doesn't do a good job.

And if you actually care about being on the cutting edge and writing new material, which I have done, then there's no question I'm good. I might not be as good as I want to be, but there's no question I'm elite at this. I can come up with some names.

I can definitely come up with some 20-year names. I'm not going to say them on this pod. Are they people that are trying new material? There are people who... And that are actually trying to progress or are they relying on the old act? You probably don't know their names. I don't know who they are but if I pointed them out you'd be like that guy that guy hosted for this thing

in 2009 and he's still doing that. But he's been doing the same act. And he's probably a big fish in his little pond and everything's fine. Or he's been doing the same act. He's a big fish in his little pond and everything's fine. Or he's a medium-sized fish in a very, very big pond. I think I can name a few that are still somehow

bad. But no, you're right, Nikki, about are they doing the same material? A lot of them that I'm thinking of are doing the same material over and over again for 20 years. Yeah, I can think of bad comedians. It was bad the first time they did it and it's still bad and they never adjusted yes but i know what you're saying now that i'm racking my brain i can think of people that have been doing 20 years and i don't like their comedy i don't like they're doing but i cannot deny that they do have an audience that doesn't like that does like it and they have mastered the skill of

performing which is a skill in and of itself so whether their jokes are bad they do deserve like there are 20 like if we're talking about someone who just got a special too soon after doing it however many years seven years you're gonna see like this person is out of their element but 20 years you you deserve whether your jokes are good or bad you deserve to be up there because you're a good performer that you've been on stages for 20 years there's something in that but you know we me and carmen also have jokes so there's just no question carmen that's one of the most exciting things though is to just put that shit aside like the material i mean attach and and just write there's so much new stuff and stuff that i didn't even put in this special because I waited so long to do a special that I'm like, I already

have so much for the next one. And now you're going to go on tour off of this thing. Your numbers are going to go up there. That's going to be so fun. No, it's amazing that her numbers have gone up already and that the tour is all selling out. Oh my God, Carmen, I can't believe that this has led...

I can't believe you are the, one of the most watched news specials on YouTube of the year and the most critically acclaimed. I mean, I can believe it because we talked about it, but it really is, it just finally,

it's so nice to see that finally people are seeing what has obviously, you know, the Lettermans and the Last Comic Standings have acknowledged here and there, but it's happening on a wider wider scale for you and like people comedy aficionados are now like know your name it's a household name but also that i'm the most watched american comedian in spain is crazy oh yeah right that is such an accomplishment that is so cool that's not even a manifest

that's undeniable there's no there's no way that doesn't happen I mean we might not know the scene Carmen's probably more tuned in there's probably

a lot of Americans they like over there they oh my god it's so funny who do they love they first of all

they love the other day I did a ton of Spanish podcasts I just got back from Madrid I had to go from Madrid to Nebraska

that's why I haven't slept and I'm wearing these all the time oh my god and I it was so funny. One of the podcast guys was like, pero me encanta Bobby Lee.

Bobby Lee. Oh, wow. And it's like, you have to, you have to go like, who? Oh,

Bobby Lee. Oh, Bobby Lee. Oh, Bobby Lee. And then this other podcast, they were like, you know,

como en el celar. And I go, the cellar? The ce, celar. The celar. It's fun to do. Because the C is, you know, TH. So it's like, the celar c is you know th so it's like and i was like oh

oh my god bobby lee well bobby lee is they have good taste they were like wow that's awesome yeah okay it was pretty they're gonna love you even more but mark norman doesn't speak spanish so they're gonna like they're gonna fucking eat this up this is so exciting um i'm so happy for you carmen what's the name of your special the english one is queef week and which mark immediately loved because you know he loves queefs he loves that i picture him yeah that's i can't believe he hasn't named his special that yet and then the spanish one is just en espanol because i wanted to make sure people knew this is not my language.

It's en Español. Yes. Okay. So Cuif Week en Español. Check it out on Mark Norman's YouTube page. That'd be on the 12th. That's Tuesday the 12th. 9 p.m. Eastern.

9 p.m. Eastern. Set your alarms. And then if you speak Spanish on the 15th on filming on YouTube on no filming is like a Netflix but it's only in Spain so it's filming is the platform nice okay wow congratulations

girl thank you get some rest thank you for doing this podcast I love you I love you so good to catch up I can't wait till we can run into each other again and just like complain about life more. We'll do it. You're the best. All right.

Bye, Carmen. Thank you. Thanks again, guys. Bye, guys. Bye. All right. That's it. I'll see you on tour coming up.

I'm going to be at Brea with Brian Frangie and then Spokane and then Seattle for my special taping, which I hope you guys can make it to. And then December 30th and 31st, I'm going to be in Denver for those shows. So come out to those as well. That's it for us. Don't be cut and just watch Carmen on December 12th. Quick week on Mark Harmon's YouTube page. Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show,

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