The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #404 Goals for 2024: Become the Person I Roll My Eyes Towards, Who Killed JFK? & Why Nikki Can Never Meet Sam Harris!
Episode Date: January 4, 2024Resolutions are annoying when your best day is one you spend in bed! Nikki is joined by Taylor & Noa as she tries to reflect on some highlights, all while Brian is out somewhere in Death Valley. O...ne highlight was meeting Rob Thomas. Although, it would be a dream come true, Nikki explains why she can never do a podcast with Sam Harris. Nikki's goal for 2024 is to be the person she normally rolls her eyes towards. Some of the best clips on the internet involve Robert Smigel and Triumph the Insult Comic Dog. How do you deal with a friend who is running late? Nikki is obsessed with the podcast Who Killed JFK? In the Final Thought, Nikki may have changed her tune on May December. Subscribe to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts to get this episode ad-free, and get exclusive bonus content: https://apple.co/nikkiglaserpodcast . Watch this episode on our Youtube Channel: The Nikki Glaser Podcast Follow the pod on Instagram for bonus content: @NikkiGlaserPod Leave us your voicemail: Click Here To Record Nikki's Tour Dates: nikkiglaser.com/tour Brian’s Animations: youtube.com/@BrianFrange More Nikki: IG More Brian: IG More producer Noa: IG  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Here's Nikki.
Hello, here I am.
Welcome to the show.
It's the Nikki Glaser Podcast.
Ooh, my voice is like low in the new year.
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Welcome to the show in the new year.
It's me, Nikki Glaser.
I'm at my home in St. Louis.
Taylor McGraw is here with us.
Hello, hello.
Hello, hello.
She's going to be redesigning the podcast studio pretty soon.
Very excited about that.
Just approved some chairs.
Talking about a wall.
Talking about a wall.
Things are going to be different around here, guys.
Brian Frangie is not here with us today because he is still on vacation i guess i would not call it a vacation
but he is um doing something he likes to do for vacation which is go to national parks and he's
in death valley so he's being tortured what'd you say isn't it so kuh what's kuh the name death
valley yeah i thought you meant like brian going i'm like whoa shots fired but yeah the name What's Kuh? The name Death Valley. Yeah.
I thought you meant like Brian going,
I'm like,
whoa,
shots fired.
But yeah,
the name Death Valley is so cool.
They're like,
what should we call it?
Yeah.
They're like skulls everywhere.
Rotting flesh.
Hmm.
How about Bone Brook?
No,
not good enough.
Mr.
Bones there.
Yes.
He's in Death Valley.
He'll be back tomorrow on the podcast.
Don't you worry about that.
It's the new year.
It's new us.
Let's talk resolutions.
Let's talk like looking back on the year on the girls chat.
Anya made like a point of being like, let's talk about all the things I loved about this last year.
It's really hard because you end up just saying a bunch of things that happened in the last couple months
because that's all you can remember.
Yeah.
You know, like I was trying to review my year
and I'm like, everything was like in the fall and winter
because that's just what I remember mostly.
But yeah, she went through.
And then people were doing this thing on Instagram
where they post 10 photos from their year,
which means two months don't get any love.
You had to pick two months where nothing cool happened.
Or maybe even more than that if you double up once a month.
Yeah.
But I just felt like it's just a way to brag about your life.
I mean, what else is Instagram?
It's a way to brag about your life.
I didn't do it because I've just been kind of, you know, going through a little dip in my mood lately.
And I'm just like, I don't want to lie right now on Instagram.
I don't feel like it.
Sometimes I have to post a show picture where I'm like looking dazzling.
But I just didn't feel like going through my year and being like, this is all the cool shit I get to do.
And 2024 is going to be even cooler.
I wanted to just go through and pick the most depressing moments, like screenshots of text messages of fights I'm in with, you know, my boyfriend that I send my friends.
That's not a real thing.
I don't do that anymore.
But I'm just trying to think of the most like my depression chart where I've written down every date that I'm depressed in my phone, in my notes, in my phone, or like just selfies that accidental selfies have taken where they look disgusting.
Like, I just want that.
That's what I wanted to see because i don't like i could have bragged and then everyone thinks i have such a great life and such a great career and which i really do i mean by all accounts very
lucky person but i just didn't feel like doing it like there are just some days where i just can't
get it up it's like having sex i think trying to be in show business and project that
you're killing it some people like really sometimes they're just in the mood to do it
and they're like always horny to like put it out there and be like moving and shaking most people
yeah most people in the business are lying because your actual best days some of them
well same thing with your actual best days are just laying in bed.
Yes.
Like the day that you didn't do anything, you're not going to have a picture of that.
So it's just a lie.
Imagine.
You totally.
Yeah, you don't have pictures.
You're like pictures of you like, this show's good.
That would be a good Christmas card.
Just lying in bed.
Like you get a really good apple.
With a bunch of wrappers around you.
Oh, yeah.
Like biting into a good apple.
Or like the perfect peanut.
That's actually my best day.
Wait, what do you mean? Like when I get a bag of peanuts and I biting into a good apple. Or like the perfect peanut. That's actually my best day. Wait, what do you mean?
Like when I get a bag of peanuts and I get a real good one.
Like the ones that you have to crack open the shell?
I like it when they're already opened so that they're real salty inside.
And then you open the shell and then it's like...
Wait, they're already opened?
Like they have a little hole in them.
There's ones with holes in the shell that get you started?
Yeah, like it's a little bit Ziploc?
Like they have like a divot? Or you just find that one in the bag that's already a little cracked so the salt gets in it and yet and yet why won't why don't they just put salt in those anyway find a
way if this is the perfect peanut remember um i used to eat the peanuts and used to eat the shells
yeah i love those shells what because they're so salty they're edible yeah they it's
yeah you could baitable but i mean they're not good i think i had fiber 100 fiber oh yeah i was
definitely pica or whatever i was definitely craving whatever and and i would choke violently
because it's like a really bad part of a thing to eat and did you know that our teeth have decay
and sorry to talk about teeth sailor but like do you know that our teeth have decay and sorry to talk about teeth
but like do you know that we have cavities and all this stuff because our food is too soft and
that our jaws are all like just our jaws are mushy now and we used to have like a really
really great jaws because we used to eat food that actually like was hard to eat
and i was reading about it on reddit or maybe it was a reddit post on instagram but it was
something about wait i want to find it because there's something about how our like it the question
was like why didn't cavemen like just die of tooth decay why did they have teeth left yeah
they used to have to rip stuff up yes they were eating rocks essentially all like like little
shrubs and spikes okay so it's an explain like I'm five subreddit.
Explain like I'm five years old.
Why do teeth require so much effort to maintain?
And then someone said,
they require more effort to maintain
because modern diets are filled with sugar
and are softer than what we'd normally eat
before the advent of agriculture.
Fossils of humans before the advent of agriculture
didn't have crooked teeth worth cavities.
Wait, they didn't have crooked teeth?
No.
They all had like gleaming?
Yes, no crooked teeth.
Veneer smiles?
These cavemen had Hillary Duff mouths?
Crooked teeth are from industrialization.
No fucking way, dude.
It's why do you think British people...
What do you mean?
Because it started there?
Industrialization started there?
Yeah, and they're the oldest people that have been eating crap for the longest amount of time.
Whoa.
And that's why they have the worst teeth.
The size of our jaws is dictated by genetics and the toughness of the food we eat.
Eating softer foods means jaws don't grow big enough to accommodate all the teeth we have.
So they grow crooked and are hard to clean.
Diets filled with sugar means any leftover sugar in our mouths gets converted into acid by bacteria in your mouth.
And then someone said, wait, so I'd have a stronger jawline if I just ate more carrots growing up? And someone said,
when people talk about older humans having better
jaws because they ate harder food, they don't
mean like carrots. They mean food
hard enough that modern people would consider it
inedible. Twigs.
Like peanut shells. It's not just your childhood.
It's also from years. So like
you also start to
also when you're in utero, then
you're eating everything your parents are eating.
But you don't have teeth in your utero.
Do you?
No, but your jaw isn't growing
and it's not providing like the,
you know,
it's adaptation for the teeth to grow.
Yeah.
It's so gross that we are all just like chomping on yogurt.
So we're just all mush mouthed and like crooked teeth.
Bread and beans are the two worst things. What is bread
and beans? Because they have phytic acid, which
is the thing that the bacteria
feeds on.
Whenever I sweat, I always try to
get my shirt off as quickly as possible because I
know the bacteria will get to it from my body.
What? What do you mean?
Okay, so listen. So if you go to the gym and you just
sweat through your shirt really fast, like
you end a workout, a 30-minute workout, like intense,
and you're sopped with sweat.
Never happens.
Take off your shirt, hang it up, smell it later.
It won't stink as much as if you leave it on
because sweat itself doesn't stink.
It's the bacteria when they go,
and then they fart it out.
Oh, so you don't want your...
I want my shirt to stink so that it soaks it off of me.
Eh? I don't think that's how it my shirt to stink so that it soaks it off of me. Eh?
I don't think that's how it works.
I think it just means you stink too.
I just want to prove to myself.
Sometimes I want to re-wear a shirt that I've sweated so hard in.
And sometimes when I work at a hotel, I don't like packing my wet clothes.
So I'll hang it up and then the next day it'll be dry and I'll smell it.
I'm like, wow, it doesn't smell dirty even though this thing was sopping wet because i took it off fast enough
and it didn't get the bacteria didn't get to feast on it okay i'm gonna do that with my rob thomas
shirt that i wear to the gym every day what rob thomas shirt oh i didn't never tell you that like
no that a couple days after we went met thomas yeah Thomas I mean that highlight of 2023
for me oh yeah
the number one
Rob Thomas
I'm still looking up
there's a new Rob Thomas song I discovered that I am
so obsessed with wait a second tell me about the shirt you found
oh okay so I found a shirt at the
thrift store that was just all the lyrics
of um
a man it's a hot one.
I thought you took his shirt.
Oh, I thought she would have.
100% she would have.
If you would have, like, spit on the ground, I would have.
Was that real?
Like, when did we do that?
Was that April or May or something?
It was warm out.
Yeah, it was hot out.
It was a hot one. I think it was a hot one.
I think it was June?
Yeah, it was
something like that.
It was amazing.
No, it was before that.
No.
It was hot.
It was hot.
It was like July hot.
I remember being sweaty.
The bacteria had a feast
that night.
I was
Yeah, I smelled so bad.
Soaking wet
everywhere.
I shouldn't have
washed that shirt
because Rob Thomas
touched it
he touched my side oh that was a dress i was wearing a dress over oh god it was so awesome
yeah we're we were friends with him for one night but i you remain friends yeah i mean i i haven't
talked to him in a while but yes i think that i have a craving to go see his band again i've been watching a ton of his music because i'm obsessed with the song called um uh uh only you can't help
us now is it his own band or it's just rob thomas okay um it's wait let me just it's it's number one
on my spotify i think it is going to get number one played on spotify route because i listened to
it yesterday is it can't seriously probably 40 yeah can't help me now i let's do it probably 45 times can't help
me now rob thomas is the song of the year it is so good listen i might be going through some things
right now the thing is like if you just listen if you ever want to know what's going on in my life
just if i talk about a song i'm obsessed with, it's that.
I never listen to songs that don't match my mood.
Ever.
Almost ever.
I don't like it.
I would never.
Even if I try to get out of a mood,
because I just have a shuffle on my iPod in the car,
I will switch it if it's not.
Yes.
I don't like anything that doesn't match it.
Because there are some songs that
are my favorite songs but if they're too cheery or if they're like about breakups or something
and i'm not feeling that way sometimes i like to have angst in my life and sadness in my life
because then i get to enjoy songs so much yeah you get to you get to wallow in it yeah but i've
been listening that song on repeat it's so good and i just loved this youtube comment underneath
one of his like his video for this song and it said rob thomas can't write a bad song and it's so good and I just loved this YouTube comment underneath one of his like his video for this
song and it said Rob Thomas can't write
a bad song and it's just true
he's so fucking good and he's
Taylor Swift levels of emotion
so if you're someone who likes Taylor Swift
you're gonna love Rob Thomas and if you don't
love Rob Thomas already what's wrong with you
like how have you missed this boat? Have you looked at him?
Google his face
Do you like his music though?
Yeah.
I was like, when you asked me to go, I was like, oh, of course I'm going to go.
That would be fun.
But then I was like, do I really?
I was like, I guess I like Matchbox 20.
But then when we were there, I was like, oh my God, all of these songs are so good and
I forgot.
And since then, now I love them again.
Yes.
Yeah.
I've been into that.
I'm trying to think of other things I've been super into
lately
well the new year I really want to start meditating
again so I got the waking up app
like I'm back into the Sam Harris
waking up app they've actually reached out to me
to maybe do some promotional
stuff for them
yeah I would I really and they're like
they even mentioned maybe I could have a conversation
with Sam Harris I don't even want that I can't handle that I'm serious I even mentioned maybe I could have a conversation with Sam Harris. I don't even want that.
I can't handle that.
I'm serious.
I can't.
Maybe he can help you.
I can meet Dave Matthews.
I can meet Taylor Swift.
I don't think I can.
I don't want to waste Sam Harris's time.
It's the same way I feel about Taylor Swift, actually.
But he wants to.
He wouldn't think he would waste time.
Yeah, it wouldn't drain his energy.
He knows how to deal with that.
His energy is locked tight.
I just can't.
He's just too smart. I just feel like he would just
know I'm an idiot right away
it would be revealed somehow
and I can't imagine this is what I can't imagine
is logging onto a zoom with Sam Harris
and like my microphone
not working or him having to like
deal with technical issues with me
or like my internet
and I'm like I really
you've saved me so much good free will technical issues with me or like my internet. You would just go. And I'm like, I really up.
You've saved me so much.
Good.
Free will.
There's no free.
Like,
I just can't.
And he'll be like,
um,
I can't really hear you were having issues.
He's like looking at his produce.
Like it would just stress me out to no end.
I did it to Bethany Frankel once when I was on her podcast.
I didn't like that.
Like her having to wait for me to reset my wi-fi
oh no thank you I don't want to do that to anyone who is more successful than me pretty well though
I don't know why it bailed that day and she made me feel better she said I was once on a call with
I was on a zoom with Michelle Obama and my wi-fi was going out so I was like okay this girl gets
it all right it made me feel so much better because she she got it right away it's so nice when someone just immediately makes you feel at ease by giving
an example of when this happened to them and they just get it it makes me feel so good but i'm gonna
try to start meditating more um i'm leaning into self-care this year stop and i'm i read that book
letting go or i'm reading that book letting go what kind of self-care it's a very broad term um it means like if i want to take a nap all day i'm going to
going on more walks by myself listening to more music letting myself letting myself be even though
i did see nine taylor swift concerts this year in person and then i went to era's tour uh the movie
so i literally saw 10 which equals to about 40 hours of taylor swift um and that is
pretty self-carry i really want to like lean into going on walks alone and like getting to know my
just like being kind of the person that i kind of roll my eyes out of like writing poetry at the
park or like sitting and just sitting by alone and just doing things alone or like, I don't know what it looks, reading more books and not feeling constantly when I'm reading a book like I should be doing something else.
Oh, you feel like that when you're reading a book?
Yeah, because I start reading a book and I go, why am I not reading a nonfiction book that's going to actually teach me about myself?
Or like I'm reading this letting go book.
And by reading, I mean mean i'm listening to it so it never feels like i could say i'm reading but i'm listening to the audiobook
for letting go which my friend bobby j cox who's been on the podcast before he wrote me and said
your recommendation of this book has changed my life this book and i'm like i haven't even
finished this book and this book has already changed your life it is so good and i have been
finding myself trying so the book is pretty much the best about any feeling you have.
You can just choose to let go of it.
You don't have to like process it.
You don't have to like metabolize the anger.
You can truly just like choose to not like not care, not push it down.
Don't push it away.
Just like let go.
And I don't really know how to do it because he doesn't tell you how to do it.
He just talks about doing it so much that you just start to like be like oh maybe it is that simple so yesterday for instance my
friend i was in colorado over the weekend and denver for two shows which so many besties came
to thank you so much on the 30th and 31st got to meet so many of you especially the ones who cried
when they met me that means so much to me please take up my time and energy with your tears i will
never offend me it always makes me feel so good he loves it i let that in talk about letting something in
i will say in the past when besties have cried and stuff i'm so present and i'm so like there
for them and like thank you so much but i don't really let it in because it i just feel like
somehow i've deluded them into thinking i'm something that they think I'm not or that they think that I'm something that I'm not but this weekend I really was like this girl is telling me that
I've changed her life and that I mean so much to her and that when I'm talking to my younger when
I say I'm talking to my younger self that she feels like I'm talking to her and I can just
this girl would not be crying if I didn't actually make a difference in her life and then I think
about if I died this girl would really be affected by it and I don't really even know her and then that I know
my family would be sad if I died and you and
Noah and Brian might have
you know he might frown that
day but
frown G
but um he might
go oh shit
and like wistfully look at a hat I
gave him or something but
is wistful wistful is positive
right yeah or is it forlorn like I think you can be wistful like sad be a little sad okay cool
um I just want to be more correct with my grammar you know moving into the new year but um I really
was letting that in this weekend and I was like when i was hugging these girls and they were like crying and stuff i was like man that is really i'm i'm going to let in this love it really felt good and
i haven't read the letters that you guys wrote me i think two girls gave me letters and i haven't
read them yet but they are in my guitar bag and i will read them at some point i think someone
will have to like be present with me to read them it's almost like me watching tv i can't do it
alone but maybe in the new year there's new things things. I'm going to start doing things alone. Like I can't watch TV alone for
some reason, but why not? Reading a book, I do that alone. But it feels like when you're reading
a book, you're almost like doing it with the author. Like you have a friend in it. Whereas
TV, I don't feel like I have a friend in it. I don't know why. I just need someone to process
TV with me. And maybe because when I'm reading
a book, I can't be on my
phone. Because I am on my phone.
Because I read books on my phone. So on
TV, you have to... Anyway.
So this Letting Go book, I
implied it this weekend. Applied it this weekend.
I think you should tell the story after the break. And I'm going to imply it right now.
Oh, okay.
I'm going to let go of this story right now
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So this weekend I was in Colorado.
My best friend, one of my best friends,
Girls Chat Catherine, lives there.
That's what we used to call her.
You saw Catherine?
Yeah, so Catherine was supposed to come to my show
on Saturday night on the 30th,
but she got really carsick on the way home
from her parents' house,
which is like two hours away from Denver.
She lives in Denver.
I met her at University of Colorado Boulder.
We met on the first week of school.
I had no friends.
I was anorexic.
I looked disgusting.
No one wanted to be friends with me.
But I did get to go out with all the girls on my floor to go to a frat party.
And we were at the frat party.
And we both looked at each other like, this is hell.
We just caught each other's eyes.
We had maybe met a little bit beforehand and i had told a story about hitting a garbage van with my car when i was in high school and so there was a little bit of interest in being
friends with me because i seemed to be kind of very desirable yeah people were like what is this
girl about no they liked it dollar shit people were into it people were yeah you you were there
i know you were there you were there
you were the only one that was there i kind of forgot jesus christ taylor taylor was in the car
with me when we we hit the garbage man taylor yeah it's kind of like we did it yeah i you were
holding the wheel i could i um testified about it so it's kind of like yeah we went to court
taylor had to give a deposition i dipped um
this is an add podcast but um and it's not it's not is actually one but it is because i have it
um speaking of deposition one of the i bet you know this too remember conan my favorite joke
of all time you already knew it's my favorite joke of all time okay so let's just go to conan 1998
yeah around the clinton scandal thing and he used to do this thing where he would on his late night
show he would have um like the face of clinton but the mouth would be carved out and then robert
smigel who does the voice of triumph would be doing the voice so you just saw the lips so just
it was called clutch cargo for some reason but um
he would just do the lips and and conan was interviewing bill clinton you know at like just
the face and then the lips would move and he was like do you want i'll do the question you do the
joke okay um is it true president that you um told monica to lie under deposition. I did not tell her to lie under deposition.
I told her to lie there in that position.
I'm not really good at clips,
but all his voices were like that.
All of them were like just triumphant.
I told her to lie there in that position.
And by the way,
a triumph clip that killed me and i posted on
my instagram story recently he was just on conan's podcast robert smigel and he did triumph's voice
or he did it for the first part you know when conan o'brien did i already say this on the
podcast i probably don't think so i i told everyone about it because i'm obsessed with
this joke it's just one of my favorite jokes of recent time um and he was talking about i think i told you noah but
he was talking about conan um i'm so glad to be here you know like uh conan i've seen you
you know i saw you in the beginning and now i'm seeing you clearly at what is the end
and conan's laughing and he goes oh serious xm conan oh he goes oh serious the wave of the past
the wave of the past is so funny oh my god and another great joke i heard this weekend let's
talk about great jokes was in the movie pop star which is the best comedy movie going it is up
their top five comedy movies of all time have you ever seen it i don't know what that is no you would be obsessed we watch it on girls trip it is pound for a hundred percent it is there is not chris
and i were marveling because we've seen it before and then i what i what we saw it together i think
you know eight years ago we were together and then we you know i'd broken up a bunch in the
time and then i watched it one time like on a date with a guy and we started making out and
then i didn't get through most of it so i've only seen it like one and a half times
and then we watched it this weekend again it is so every single chance there is to make a joke
they're making a joke it's the funniest movie there is it's about andy samberg do you know who
that is um he's an snl guy from like you know mid 2000s he mid-aughts or whatever, he plays like a Justin Bieber character
called Conor for real.
And he used to be in a band called the,
I forget what they're called,
the Style Boys.
And then they broke up
and now he's like a solo artist.
Kind of like a Harry Styles,
but it's based on Justin Bieber, really.
And it's like a documentary following him
and his solo career,
which his first album was a huge success and now he's releasing his second album and it becomes like a documentary following following him and his solo career which his first album
was a huge success and now he's releasing his second album and it becomes a huge flop and it
just follows him around but sarah silverman is his um publicist and she's like you know this is
just one of my favorite jokes and chris and i definitely were like sarah probably wrote that
joke and next time i see her i want to ask her if she wrote it but she was like you know connor's
music isn't necessarily for me but it just makes so many people so much money and that was like we were like oh that's such a
good joke because i just love jokes obviously i like jokes that just like twist the ending like
the wave of the past m night shayamalan it yes yes uh i like how you say his name almost like
like probably the way it's supposed to be said m night shayamalan i think it's m night everyone says shamalan but i think it is it's spelled shayamalan um so this weekend
denver kath oh so katherine and i saw each other we were at this frat party i told the story about
hitting the guy with my car she was probably interested she was probably like that girl's
cool i want to hang out with her and katherine had eating disorder issues too in the past so i think she probably didn't judge
mine as much but she wasn't like rough looking at the time we met but i certainly was but we
made eyes at this frat party i remember the hallway where i was just like looking for you
know when you're at college you have no one you have no friends nothing familiar you're completely
alone and so i was just caught her eye and we both were like, ugh.
And we were kind of like rolling our eyes at one of the
girls we were with that was like
the cursed person
to this day that I've ever met in my life.
There were so many kids in college.
Yeah, it was pretty much killage.
And so we left
and we started, we were,
I came up to her and was like,
do you want to get out of here? And then we were walking away from the party and we were like two blocks away and we just
started talking a little bit and i was like i think like our kids are gonna know each other
like that's how good of friends we're gonna be and like that was that's i predicted i was like i
know we're gonna be best friends so she's been my best friend you know on the top shelf with you
guys since that moment and um but
every time i go to denver it's like that's my exciting time to see katherine but i didn't and
she goes on girls trips too but i this weekend she couldn't make it to my show which i don't
really care because she's seen me a million times and the show i have like so many people
yeah there's not a lot of time to hang and she has kids and a family so she would have to leave
after the show anyway so it's like she would just go to watch my act it's like who cares so i mean it's great but she's
you know so she was sick so she couldn't go and then uh she couldn't go saturday or sunday either
and she was like you know she wrote me on sunday she's like hey any chance you can hang monday
before you leave and my flight was at 11 15 the airport's 45 minutes away we got to return the rental car and i was like yeah but we'd have to you have to come downtown she lives
20 minutes away from where i was staying i was like you have to be here like 7 30 so we could
get we need at least an hour to catch up we have a lot to catch up on and um so she was like i'm
down i'm like fuck yeah let's do it let's do an early morning thing so i wake up at like 6 30 to
finish packing so i can just go
and then katherine could drop me off and i can just pick up my bags and we can go to the airport
um and i am brushing my teeth i text her like hey meet me um actually don't don't park here we were
gonna park and then walk and i go just pick me up because all the starbucks were closed it was new
year's day so we had to like go somewhere else to a different starbucks and so she writes me at 7 29 um i'm just about to leave and i was
like what like i don't if you know me you know i don't like any time like i have nothing there's
everything's already done for me to be ready to go like what am i gonna do now like meditate i'm not meditating until today
that's when that started and so i was just like i have to admit i'm sorry if you're listening to
this katherine i was like filled with rage and she could probably kind of not rage but just like
i just don't like when people are late and they can't tell just tell me you're gonna be late like
how did you just know you were leaving your house 20 25 minutes late only now like
couldn't you have predicted 25 minutes ago when you were supposed to leave that you were gonna
be at least five minutes late then 10 then 15 like i guess maybe i would like to hear from some
besties about why people are late i can never understand but here's the thing about people who
are late and i'm gonna get to what letting go in a second but here's the thing about people who are late. And I'm going to get to letting go in a second.
But let me just bitch about people who are late a little bit more.
My sister is late too to everything.
Really?
But not everything.
Because I've asked her.
Because I don't complain about it with my sister.
Because she's got three kids.
It's hard to get out of the house.
Everything like that.
But every single time we hang out as a family,
she's at least a half hour late.
Her and her husband.
No matter what.
And it's just,
you know,
we've tried to change the time.
So we tell them a different time.
She somehow figures it out and we'll still show up a half hour late.
She's so sneaky.
Everyone knows late people.
You can't do this with them.
They'll figure it out.
There's just late people and not late people.
But then I said to her,
how,
I go,
have you,
I wasn't trying,
listen,
I was trying to get the information I
wanted but how do you how do you not be passive aggressive or like when you want my my thought
was aggressive it's not passive then my question is how do you have a job if you're always this
late that's what I wanted to ask because I wanted to say like I've noticed you're late all the time
which I don't I don't complain about to her so but i've noticed this right so i'm i'm i have all this
accruing all this data that i have not let her know i've accrued right that i've noticed she's
late all the time how do i ask her without revealing that i've accrued this data like
so i i don't like being passive though you know like i would like to say i've noticed you're late
all the time.
No judgment, but are you not late?
But you are judging.
But I am judging.
Just say, I don't understand
how you can be so late all the time.
Wait, can I say no judgment,
like so much judgment?
Like, hey, listen, I'm just wondering,
so much judgment.
Like, why?
But I go, I said to her,
Tons and tons and tons of judgment.
Are you ever late for school?
Because I know she's not
because she would not have a job, right?
She has a first hour class.
Class starts at 7.50 at Kirkwood High School.
So I said, are you ever like late to class?
Like are teachers, I just said it in a general way, are teachers, what do teachers do?
I don't remember my teachers ever not being there for first hour.
But people are late all the time, you know?
So I was like, what do you do if you're running late?
And she was like, I think maybe I've been like, you know, i was like what do you do if you're running late and she was like i think maybe i've been like you know i've had other teachers there's always like a student teacher
that can like step in for you or something but she was like no i've never been late to first
hour and i'm like this is interesting to me so you're never late for there you can be someone
who's always on time interesting that's the same thing every day and she already has the babysitter
or takes them to daycare or whatever,
takes them to school at the same time.
She probably knows that her family will be forgiving
and she won't get fired from being your sister.
There's not a level of respect.
It's a respect thing and that's fine,
but it is about respect.
And it's the same way that like,
you know, working on the special with Chris,
when he asked me to do
a zoom meeting about the lighting or something and i go no i don't want to do that i can say
it with that tone as opposed to if he were a producer that i just hired i would go no actually
today doesn't work for me but instead i can just say no because he loves me and i don't respect him
no that's not it but i know because there but that is a level of disrespect that i have to
work on the next time we work together because i do want to have more respect for the people that
i should respect more than strangers being late itself i mean if you if you're analytical about
this is a capitalist society when money's on the line we're more respectful and it's all about
money it's not about actual love.
Because we wouldn't be late for lunches with the people we love if we valued love more than money.
For your sisters about job security.
I don't think it's about money.
Which is money.
Job security is money.
And also it would be embarrassing.
She would not be teaching if there was not money in it.
It would be really embarrassing.
Wait, there isn't money in it.
Job security.
You would look stupid in front of your students. But no one would have jobs if there was not money in it wait there isn't money in it so job security yeah you would
you would look stupid in front of your students but no one would have jobs if there weren't it
wasn't money so it is about money in the end it's like we are on time when there's money on the line
our um our safety net for you know but when they're when i just i'm i here's a new year's
resolution i want to give to late people because i
do understand it is a thing that you can't help you truly can't these are all people in my life
who i love so much if you're a chronically late person and i am too by the way but i'm chronically
like seven to eight minutes late it's somewhere in that window just text when you're gonna be there
yeah i don't before you're late don't text at eight o'clock if
you're gonna be there at eight o'clock that i'm five minutes late text at eight or ten till eight
that you're gonna be five minutes late try to be on time with texting about being your lateness yes
that's a great yeah that's all you have to do because as someone who has suffered from people's lateness, all we want is to know the time.
So I know, like, I can start a crossword puzzle or I can get this email done.
Like, I know the amount of time I have till she shows up and I can devote something to it.
You know, I can listen to my JFK podcast, which we'll get into in a second.
So these are all
just things so anyway katherine was late and what i wrote back first was i woke up early for this
not nice but she was like i realized because she had just left her house she's gonna be 25 minutes
late and we only have an hour 10 minutes to hang out so i'm just like i'm just my anger was that i
don't get to hang out with my
friend it wasn't really about this waste of my time it was like man this is cutting it was it
was a little bit of both baby but i wrote back i woke up early for this and i go um and then i said
it's fine um i'll see you soon or whatever and um and then i was like then i go i'll just walk to
the starbucks we were gonna walk to it's far away that'll be like what I spend
doing that 20 minutes doing so I walk
there and on my walk there I was like
now it's going to be weird when she sees you
because she's now scared of you because she's scared
that you're going to she's going to get there and you're going to be
mad at her which
from all like
all the evidence shows that I am mad because I
wrote back I got up early for this you're not that
scary though.
Not to me.
I'm so glad to hear you say that because everyone else in my life has kind of told me that they are terrified of me.
I don't like to disappoint you, but I wouldn't be like, oh no, Nikki.
I was just going to cut me off.
Won't I forgive you?
Yeah.
You always forgive people off the hook.
You give people so many chances i might get a little
mad at you and be like this sucks that you did this and this is why it sucks but i will always
forgive especially if you forgive yourself and like apologize yeah that's what apologizing is
is kind of forgiving yourself and letting me know that you did i kind of feel so um
but on my walk i was like i was reminded of letting go and i was like
what if you just let go of the disappointment that you don't get to hang with your friend
the anger you feel that she's not respectful of your time which is you know precious and all that
stuff and i just like was i remember i was opening the door to starbucks and i was just like just act
like it didn't happen like just let let it, who gives a fuck?
And I was able to let it go.
And when I saw her, I should have said to her, like, I'm sorry for my tone.
I should have apologized.
But I think I was a little too embarrassed at how I had written.
So I just like instantly was like waved at her car, like excited, like the way I would
have been if she showed up on time.
So there is something to this like letting go thing.
But then sometimes someone
says something and you cannot let it go because it keeps coming up in your head and what the
fuck do you do about that i mean that's the whole point of the book probably
or you may try to find a way to not ruminate i know room but you have to start with small
you can't help your thoughts no free will like I can't help that this thing keeps coming up in my mind of like
why did they say that? Just let it go over and over.
What about that? Every time it comes up, let it
just go through. But then my anger starts to build.
I have so much anger
in me. It's crazy.
I think anger is a thing that
we are so not in touch
with. I mean, I know that's a fact.
Everything is anger. Your back pain, your
fucking, not your back pain, but like everything is just repressed anger.
And I want to journal more this year.
I want to read more books to understand myself and other humans and have more empathy because reading more books, especially fiction, gives you a lot of empathy for other people's experience.
That's why I don't have it.
No, you have lots.
I think you have a lot of empathy.
And then I want to let go of more things.
I want to keep doing Pilates because it feels good.
I want to keep singing because it feels good.
I want to take more naps and I want to declutter my life.
I'll help.
What does that mean?
I'm going to declutter my life too.
Just get rid of stuff
and like stop holding on to things i mean that's a good point too people too like i'm
i'm really tired of hearing about people in my friends lives who i'm like get rid of this person
i can't i almost can't handle you anymore because I hear about this person so much
that's when my anger comes up
and when I start sounding like that kind of person
to myself with people
when I start sounding
like a person that
is holding on to things
when you listen to your friends complain about stuff
you're just like
just quit that job
just leave that person
and then it happens to yourself
it's so much harder.
But yeah, that's another thing.
Letting people go too and stop people pleasing so much.
I wish I had people to let go because I feel like I could, but I don't even know anybody.
Oh, that's great.
Then you probably have let go of everyone.
I went to your Christmas party and there was some gems there.
You think?
Yeah. i love that
girl that used to be a vet i talked about on the pod regina yeah yeah yeah she was really cool and
then her um boyfriend who was a therapist greg was really cool they were just like just interesting
people and greg was like thank you for talking about everything he was like he doesn't know my
work he was just like at the party he was like thank you for being so everything. He was like, he doesn't know my work. He was just like at the party.
He was like,
thank you for being so vulnerable.
And I was like,
what did I say?
I was like,
I think I'd said like,
oh,
I think about killing myself a lot.
Or I said something just,
you know,
conversationally,
just Christmas chatter.
And he like made a point to be like,
that was really vulnerable.
What you just did.
And it made me feel so special.
So yeah,
that's how he talks.
Well,
he was like,
I could tell he was impressed with my candor. And liked he's he really liked you and chris oh that's
so nice yay what about julie what do they think of party animal julie oh everybody loves julie
no one doesn't love julie it's she's a crowd i was like my mom was there too everyone's like julie
and e.j were called i was like but what about my mom my mom's just holding anya's dad's book like oh my god he wrote this anya's dad wrote this well who's cross then who's jerry
cross that's not anya's name why is her name marina like just so many questions um she is
just a hoot and a half hoot and a holler she's so fun she's like my that's another goal this
year is to spend more time with my mom's another goal this year is to spend more
time with my mom yeah and that's my goal to spend more time with julie yeah you should go thrifting
with us because i just come on with it my mom doesn't invite me thrifting but i have her on
find my friends and so i just am going to go start finding her around the st louis metro area i'll
take her at all the uh she needs to go to the bins with me. She knows where the bins are. She's in a bin right now.
She's knee deep in a bin right now.
I know it. I've never seen that
bitch at the bins. Really?
No. Oh, well maybe...
We go on different days maybe. Maybe different skedgies.
Maybe she's 20 minutes late.
No, she's on time for those bins.
She has like
nemeses at these places. Oh, me too.
See, we need to go together.
Yeah, they show up at the same time
and they're all just rooting around for new stuff.
You know, like the racks.
The racks come out.
Yeah.
And she sees the same people all the time.
God damn it.
She's always at that rack before me.
It's just annoying, Nick.
And I go, well, you're there too.
So funny when people complain about crowds
and it's like, well, you're part of it.
Why is everyone at the airport today?
Well, why are you? You're part of
you're the part of the problem as well.
Yeah,
I'm listening to the JFK podcast
Who Killed JFK?
And it's with a question mark, but they
keep saying it like it's called Who Killed
like they're going to tell you because they are.
Well, I know who it is, so
we'll see yeah everyone needs
to listen to this podcast this is a a gift to americans from rob reiner the filmmaker writer
actor producer rob reiner who gave us such things as when harry met sally spinal tap stand by me
this guy has taken upon himself because he forget the origin story of it.
But he obviously he was like 15 when JFK was assassinated, murdered, and he, you know, lived through that.
But then he met someone through some film he was doing who enlightened him to the fact that JFK was murdered and it was a conspiracy.
And it was 100 percent that it was a hundred percent that and
it uh you know lee harvey oswald did not act alone and he pretty much sets this up and then
the podcast is gonna tell you who like it's when was it created there's not like a shadow of a
doubt anymore like it's it was created this year it just came out i think they're still releasing
new episodes so it's an episodic that comes out every week.
But now there's like nine episodes to binge.
I'm through episode three because it is pretty dense in terms of they really walk you hold
your hand through it like a real dummy can listen to this and understand it.
But I you know, you're distracted on your phone.
You're watching, you know, you're on an airplane.
Someone asked you a question and you got to hear every little name that comes through.
But you can just read Jerry Croth's book because of course he
has told us who did it already.
Yeah, I don't know who did it yet because I'm
only on episode three, but I'm guessing the CIA
because the Bay of Pigs
disaster and JFK
wanted to dismantle the CIA.
It was very
well documented
that JFK
hated the CIA. The CIA was war hungry jfk wanted peace
they did not like that they wanted war and he was going to split the cia into a thousand pieces and
totally dismantle it and i wonder if he even thought this was a possibility that they could
kill him no i don't think so. Why? Because he was not...
You know, he had a disease.
That's why he was orange.
Wait, he was orange?
He wasn't using VersaSpa?
Yeah, he was very orange.
He was very tan looking.
He had some serious health problems,
really bad health problems.
That's why his head was kind of like
round moon shaped and he's orange.
Cry to shit? That's just how he looked. He was a little crudish that we learned about a congenial disease in high school why were they teaching this they didn't teach us about safe sex in high school
but they taught us about oh they taught us about safe sex you don't remember not really with ph
balance we had that class a guy named paul hollan who we called pH balance. And they showed us just zoomed in pictures of like genitals with all kinds of disease.
Oh, in Ms. Rice's class?
Yeah.
And she would point and be like, now tell me where the P would come out.
And we're like, we don't know.
Still don't know.
It's like a cauliflower.
You know, it's a Jesus statue crying.
It just soaks out of the marble at some place.
Wait a second.
Hold on. Wait. crying it just soaks out of the marble at some place um wait a second hold on wait we why did we learn about congenial diseases though like cry douche at which is a disease you can get if you
have a you know you you get a genetic mutation and they called it cry douche i don't mean to
laugh at people with cry douche at i don't even think they survive very long so we can laugh at
them yeah so they're all dead.
Maybe there's the.
It could be too soon.
Cry douche at babies.
They called them that.
And this is too funny to tell high schoolers.
They they sounded they would cry like a cat.
And it was in France. And so it's called cry of the cat.
Cry douche at.
It's so sad.
And they had a big moon.
And they would have a moon shaped head. Like JFK. So maybe he's cry douche at. Okay. Does had a big moon and they would have a moon shaped head like jfk so
maybe he's cry douche okay does is it a crescent moon like that old mascot for dominoes i have to
bring it over i found uh um we made there was a kid that we thought was a cry douche no because
of his head shape okay god damn it we did not bully people to their moon-shaped faces at all it was just in notes that
we would pass to each other oh you know what i thought of um yesterday what song starry starry
night came on okay that's yeah oh yeah i remember that song it's don mclean and one time we were
talking about somebody that had acne scars or something and nikki scurry scurry face what an asshole
no it was the funniest thing I've ever heard
we would bully people at notes there's no
question if a note would be found it would be
very hurtful but we not to their
faces that is the difference
it's not good that we did this we just had
self esteem issues and we projected it
which I still do in my own mind but
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So wait a second.
JFK had like a disease
and that made him stupid?
No, he just wasn't able to like participate.
Know that the CIA would kill him?
That's one of the side effects of this disease?
He also was, you know,
banging a lot of chicks, like Marilyn Monroe and stuff. would kill him that's one of the side effects of this disease he also was you know uh you know
banging a lot of chicks like marilyn monroe and stuff they were killed trying to kill marilyn
monroe they killed her they killed her yeah why what'd she know because she because she had an
affair with uh with bobby and with why kill her who cares because she was gonna tell because she
was borderline she's gonna tell so they killed her she didn't commit suicide
oh dear um but anyway he had a lot of health issues but also you know the cia that was just
one of the things but maybe the cia killed him maybe not but they had some things to do with it
for sure there was a lot of people he was also trying to get rid of the mafia so a lot of people
think organized crime and that's why jack ruby was a mafia guy yeah and he said that he killed lee harvey oswald because jack
ruby killed lee harvey oswald the day after right and then jack ruby immediately became
totally fucking insane and couldn't speak or do anything and then mk ultra yes okay
whoa there's someone also more important than that story i can't wait well i loved the part
of this um podcast where they're talking about the zapruder film which um i did not know the
world did not see the zapruder film for until the 70s they gave the zapruder film to
the cia and then one copy was made by the guy who was making the digital copy not digital
copies but they were like converting it from five millimeter to 35 millimeter and that guy who was
working in the kodak lab was like i'm gonna make one copy and he was the one that brought it on
geraldo rivera's show and um with dick gregory comedian which, by the way, Dick Gregory was the one who blew this case wide open
by going on Geraldo Rivera's show
called, like, Tonight Tomorrow or something like that,
or, like, This Week Tonight.
And Dick Gregory, a stand-up comedian,
was the one that was like,
this is a conspiracy.
The press needs to look into this.
Why are we the ones that are bringing you this information?
Because he was a part of all these groups
that would meet up, these societies that would meet up to discuss the jfk assassination
because it was so cool so i just love that because if you you know uh hannibal burris was the one who
like made a joke about bill cosby and then all of a sudden that all came like that wouldn't have
happened without hannibal burris just making a joke on stage one night and someone filming it
and being like look it up type in Bill Cosby rape
and see what happens.
Oh my God.
Which was already
well documented
but no one was looking at it.
I did not know that.
Yeah.
And there's another,
there's one other example
I can't remember right now
of just a comedian
saying something
and everyone going like,
wait,
let's look closer at this.
Me talking about John Penae
on this podcast
every single time I'm on it.
Well, I saw,
did you see the girls chat?
No.
I went to her house
what i saw her house this weekend and i did a drive by when you're on the girls chat did you
take a picture yes and i sent it to the girls send it to me no but i said you know what that means
what does it mean i have to become more obsessed so that you remember wait look i am the one
that should receive a picture of well i, I thought everyone would like it.
It's the next three.
There you go.
Have you ever been there?
No.
Why?
Because I haven't been to Boulder.
Seems like you would make a pilgrimage there.
So I didn't get to go to Columbine.
I was in Denver and I wanted to go.
I didn't get to go to Columbine on this trip,
but I did see the JonBenet house.
And I was surprised it was not torn down
because they did...
Did you know they tore down the
idaho murders place yes yeah it was um the house you know why they don't this house just sold you
can see on zillow and i know a whole tour of the entire house it's nuts it's crazy what did it sell
for like 4.3 7 million 7 million jesus christ that's what it was for sale for yeah and that's
good job someone goes why didn't they why didn't they tear down the john bonnet house and i go
and why did they tear up down the idaho thing and i go because you look at the prices
it's uh it's a shed it's like a off-campus low-income shed is the most ugly house i wouldn't
ever live in there because i'd be like i will definitely get murdered here in the idaho wood
yeah oh really just so so ugly like they should have known when they went on a tour of it. It's their fault.
Yeah.
So when is all that Idaho stuff going to start?
2024 is the trial starts.
Oh, that's this year.
I know.
We're here already, baby.
What about, like you're the murder girl expert.
What about the Delphi?
Delphi is insane.
When is that going to start?
That's not gonna start till
at least wade late in 2024 october 2024 which is insane because they're gonna kill him first
they're trying to kill that guy why because he didn't do it at all who and oh because you think
it's cops i think it's cops or someone that's really high up or else there wouldn't be all
this ridiculous conspiracy that you want to look
into a crazy murder. I've talked about on the podcast
before, but the Delphi murders in Indiana
are insane. And I read a book called Down
the Hill and it's so good
and so creepy. And it's
just it's the worst thing because if you're
like a little if you're a girl
like me who used to like walk through the woods with her friends,
you just see yourself so
much in this because you could have been murdered.
Yeah, I was going on a walk. They were just on a walk
on a day off school where
they had extra snow days to get rid of
so the school was just like, we'll take a day
off. And the little girls just went to the
park and they got heinously murdered
by possibly
a police officer. By somebody.
Because they have 45 seconds of this video.
Yes. At least. And we only know one second of somebody. Because they have 45 seconds of this video. Yes. At least.
And we only know
one second of it. If they have
a whole video of someone, why wouldn't
they release that?
Because. If the guy's already in
jail. Yeah, if they have him. Yeah, because usually
they don't release stuff because they don't want that guy to like run
harder. And it doesn't look anything like that guy.
It's definitely not him. I think it
does look like that guy. No. it looks much more like another guy that is other people think is well um let's talk
about another um conspiracy um the movie may december so i went on a rant last time the podcast
happened in 2023 about the movie may december and how shitty it was and how I can't believe
that people are talking about it for Oscar nominations
and all the stuff and then a bestie
wrote me about she felt the
same way about it but then she went on reddit threads
and read about how all the
things I hated about the movie and that we both
hated about the movie were actually
reasons why it was good
so yes
so the music sting throughout it are supposed to be
okay so the movie is about natalie portman who's an actress who goes to visit this woman who is
like a mary kay letourneau situation she slept with her student or not student but she slept
with like a seventh grader when she was in her 30s and now it's you know 30 25 years later and they're grown up and they have
a family and kids of their own that are going to college and this kid is now 33 she's 50 something
and natalie portman goes to study the family because she's going to play this woman in a movie
and the whole movie you're thinking natalie portman is probably like a natalie portman type
actress right like she's doing this amazing role and you get little hints here and there
that maybe that isn't the case,
but you don't really think about it.
And then in the very final scene,
which I said the final scene was the graduation scene.
That wasn't the final scene.
The final scene was her shooting a scene in the movie.
So you're cutting to the movie and the movie is shit.
It's like a lifetime movie.
It's terrible looking.
The acting's bad. The set's
bad. But I watched...
We're supposed to whole time think
like, oh my god, this whole movie was
meant to be campy. It was meant to
be not... The reasons
I hated it were it was trying to be
bad. The music sting throughout
that was like, bing, bong, bing
that I hated. That was supposed to be
hinting at us, to us, that this movie, that's the type of movie this woman was making.
And then the fact that her lisp started halfway through the film was intentional.
And because the lisp started halfway through the film because we were supposed to notice that she only used the lisp when she was trying to seem vulnerable and get something from the guy.
Like the woman that seduced the kid.
And so she would use the list to infantilize herself.
But I still don't know why they didn't start debuting it a little bit before halfway through the movie.
And then, so the reason that the music sings I hated, the list I hated.
The choice of the list halfway through I hated.
And the ending, which he is at their his kids
graduation and he's crying the the father is the father who's now 33 but was a child he's crying
because he missed out on his childhood and the whole movie is also working with butterflies
and i learned that the fact that he was trying to keep these butterflies um he like makes sure
that they mature all the way before they fly and obviously that is like a
metaphor for he wishes someone would have protected him before he flew away and then there is a
whacked out scene that i cannot believe this is real i sent it to chris last night it is a do
you remember mary kayla turno and this her. Love her? Just because she's crazy?
Yeah.
This is the interview they did.
Final thought.
Hold your fucking horses for this interview.
Okay.
It's a minute five long.
Okay.
Is everyone ready for this?
I cannot believe.
This is so awkward.
This is Mary Kayla Turnow and her husband, who is the boy who by the way when she got out of she was sentenced
when they got caught rolling around in the hay and this is me just kind of paraphrasing but it
was something like this she was sentenced to like two years or something three years and she only
served nine months and then she got out within a week or so she's caught rolling around with him
again she goes back to prison for 10 more years she could have gotten out after nine months but she
went back again she gets out after seven for that or something they get married have kids
oh they have oh by the way she gets pregnant she gets pregnant um i think she was pregnant
during her first nine months and then she gets pregnant again she gives birth in prison gets
pregnant again on the second i could be mixing that up but she got pregnant i mean this lady was nuts this is them
doing an interview with some like australian reporter and this is a minute five seconds
and this is um this is from louis lewis uh pietzman he's a hilarious guy on instagram
he tweeted this out so many contemporary movies and shows based on real life real events traffic
and imitation with uncanny impressions seen as the highest achievement what may december does So I guess in the movie May-December, there is a scene where she goes, who's the boss?
Who's the boss?
And you'll see what that comes from this interview.
Wait, hold on.
You were the adult. You can say that. Wait, hold on.
You were the adult.
You can say that.
I am saying that.
I was by age.
I was by age.
And by maturity.
Ah, you maybe.
You were a teacher, Mary.
You can't say I was immature.
But you don't know him.
No, but I don't need to know him in this discussion.
He's the child.
Who was the boss? I'm talking about you.
Who was the boss? She's saying it to the child. Who was the boss? I'm talking about you. Who was the boss?
She's saying it to the boy.
Who was the boss?
What?
Who was the boss back then?
You know, there was me pursuing you.
Who was the boss back then?
This is ridiculous.
No, who was?
This is ridiculous.
Who was?
Just say.
Just say?
Who was the boss?
All I knew was what I knew back then.
Who was the boss?
He was Tony Danza.
Who was the boss? This is getting weird. Who was the boss? He was Tony Danza. Yes. Mary, even as you're hearing this now, come on, he was 13.
Does it matter?
It absolutely matters.
Does it matter?
Well, flaw me.
She goes, well, flaw me.
What does that even mean?
Flaw me?
She goes, who's the boss to him so many times.
Like 17 times.
And it's so clear that she's like, if you don't say that, I mean, it's just the definition
of someone being the person in power.
Telling someone, who's the boss?
Who's the boss?
Say it.
You are clearly because you're telling me that I have to say who's the boss.
He looks so frightened.
It's so fucked up, man.
And now I'm starting to like the movie because I've read all the stuff.
This is what I'm talking about.
I can be convinced to like things I hate if you explain to me what I missed. Me i'm not someone like if you prove it then i'll like it yeah chris and i were
talking about my set design at one point and i was like i just need i don't know set design so if i'm
just told that these curtains are cool because maybe i don't like them upon first look or whatever
it is aesthetically if i'm just like i don't like it or like that or whatever it is. Aesthetically, if I'm just like, I don't like it or like, that's a little weird to me.
If you explain to me why it's cool from an artistic perspective that you have as an expert, I'll be like, oh, yeah, that is cool.
Maybe that means I'm a pushover and that I don't have a backbone for what I think is cool and not cool.
But I think things I like things based on, you know, I guess I'm more, what's, I don't just
judge a book by its cover.
Like, you can tell me what a cover, if a cover's good, and I'll like it.
Well, you're also the kind of person who understands that there are people who might know more
than you in the field that they're experts on.
Yeah.
And like, if you tell me, if I don't like the way a song sounds, if you tell me a song if i don't like the way a song sounds
if you tell me why that song is actually like so interesting i can start to maybe like the song
even though i fucking hated it at first does i think there's something about that that makes me
a little bit of uh people pleaser pushover no no i think it's more like but i can't help that i
actually will start to like it or an outfit that I think is hideous. Someone goes, no, it's cool because those boots actually...
Yeah, and that you would even give it a chance
and take the time to let someone play something for you again or whatever.
I would just be like, no, I don't want to listen to it.
Because I think I like May, December now.
I think I'm going to go back and watch it again
and with all these context clues.
But Chris made the point, he was like,
well, then they missed the mark.
If we're two intelligent people
and we couldn't understand that they were trying to
show us that this was actually shitty,
or it was the movie that she
was going to make was shitty,
then they failed.
Because why would they just make it the exact
story if they're going to even use the
interview? It seems like they could have done a better
job because the real story is very interesting
and crazy. But if you were bored throughout this
movie, then they didn't do a good job.
But maybe it is good because I'm so
obsessed with talking about it. Sometimes things
are so bad that you talk about them
a lot and I'm like, well, maybe I think it's good.
Because I like Taylor Swift because
of all the hidden messaging, the things that you don't get
on the surface, the stuff that if you listen to it a couple times
you go, oh my God, she's referencing that moment.
I'm obsessed with this clip of Taylor Swift swift where she's dancing she's in at
airs tour and she's dancing to we never go out of style we never which is clearly about harry
styles it's called style it was written on 1989 1989 is an old album pretty much about harry styles
everyone knows it she's never never explicitly said it but she did a british accent in one of
the songs when
she was performing at the grammys to nod at dating him it's like it is about him they were in a
snowmobile accident she references in all the songs she's never explicitly said it but we just
get it from all these fucking clues she's giving but in era's tour she does a moment where she
dances like harry styles you should google it and look at it i'm so obsessed with it um and it's not
part of the choreography she's just going like this.
And she does like a little,
and she does two seconds of it,
but it's enough to just nod at us and go,
I know who this is about.
You know who this is about.
I could always have reasonable deniability that,
or like whatever that word is,
that maybe I just danced like that
and it's just a coincidence,
but it's not.
And I love stuff like that.
So maybe i just
missed the mark on this movie and that and there are like people who are more she actually puts it
in the movie from what it sounds like people on reddit created that meaning and it made sense
like they're just making sense of something bad yeah but we are also making sense of this thing but i do think they're right like i i almost know
they're right because it is so over the top this this musical sting is so stupid that i do think
the the director who when i'm looking at so i went on my own reddit search and read all about it and
i'm like oh shit i'm an idiot i kind of missed all of these things and i can admit i'm
an idiot i don't know like sometimes i'm it's so embarrassing when you think something's lame and
you go wait that's what they meant it to be lame do you ever does that ever happen to you where
you make fun of something and people go no that's the joke and you're like oh yeah all the time
this weekend we were at a karaoke bar for new year's eve and chris had a friend of his a friend
of his sister showed up and she was so funny but i didn't expect her to be this funny and it was a
really loud bar so i wasn't like hearing what she was saying exactly and she was like being very
sarcastic and like but truly funny and anya showed up a bit later after i already established this
girl is like next level funny she's like cursed Kirsten levels funny. I could just tell. How dare she?
And she was like,
at one point she put on this like happy new year's Eve,
like crown.
And she was talking about online dating and how horrible it is. And now she just went out with someone who had a roommate and she was
like,
I'm 39.
Like,
I can't be like,
Hey,
can I use the bathroom?
Or is your roommate going to be out there?
Like,
she was just like talking about it to me prior to Anya getting there.
So Anya's across the table. And then all of a sudden she starts doing like selfies like
like but like if you don't know her she just looks like a twat doing like horrible like exactly
you're seeing selfies like styling her hair like you know like most girls like puffing out like
doing duck face you know and then she goes she says to anya or she says to like the table oh i'm
just taking pictures for my bumble profile and then she starts going says to anya or she says to like the table oh i'm just taking pictures for my
bumble profile and then she starts going like i'm like making like the weirdest face and anya's
looking at me like what is this like this girl is so over the top lame right now and i go to anya i
go no she's doing a joke and i'm just like oh and it was like the funniest thing but like watching
my friend think this girl is lame was such a weird moment for me that i was like no no she knows what she's doing and i think that's what
may december was for me so thank you to that bestie for um enlightening me on it so many besties wrote
to me saying you hated may december too maybe maybe it deserves a second look who knows um
but everyone does need to see natalie portman actively humping the air in the storage closet of
a pet shop having simulated sex with a teenager in the closet of a pet shop that is a scene you
need to see it looks a lot like this her humping the air in a doorway because she's getting ready
for the role and she goes to the pet shop where this woman and this boy
had their first encounter because she's in the small town
where they met. And she goes to the pet shop
owner. She's like, can I take a look at the back?
And then he brings her back
and leaves her alone, which I've already discussed is
so weird in movies where like people
just let anyone roam around
in places they shouldn't by themselves.
But the screenwriter didn't
want to write an extra character into the scene.
And he needed her to hump the air alone.
So he's got to get that old man
in the back of the front.
And so, yeah, and then she just goes
and she humps the air.
It's pretty good.
And that's, happy new year, everyone.
That's where we leave you.
Taylor, thanks for being here.
My mom is going to be here tomorrow, you guys.
Gear up for that. Brian Frangie will be back tomorrow. Taylor, we'll probably here. Thanks for having me. My mom is going to be here tomorrow, you guys. Gear up for that.
Brian Frangie will be back tomorrow.
Taylor, we'll probably see you next week.
Thank you for listening, you guys.
And thanks for coming to my shows.
I have shows coming up in Florida in two weekends.
So see me at that.
And you can watch me presenting at the Creative Arts Emmys on FXX.
I think on January 9th it airs.
And I'll be doing that this week.'m going to LA this weekend that'll be fun
but thank you for all your support in
the past year and this new year it's going to be so
great on the pod we love you and
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