The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #411 Comedy Challenge, How to Make Horror Movies Less Scary & Date Night with Julie

Episode Date: January 26, 2024

Nikki is so inspired by Brian's experience in a writing group that she wants to challenge her friends to join one with her. Brian vividly recalls Nikki's froyo obsession, a spectacle witnessed firstha...nd in the Not Safe office. During her voice lesson, Nikki found a way to get more in her groove. She's happily finished editing her special and is already working on a concept for a new hour. While the group explores the art of tension in horror films, Brian drops a revelation to make every scary movie a little less spine-chilling.They give a shoutout to Brian Regan's genius and realize why kids stink at stand up comedy. In the Final Thought, Nikki talks about her date with her mom, Julie, seeing Funny Girl. Subscribe to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts to get this episode ad-free, and get exclusive bonus content: https://apple.co/nikkiglaserpodcast  . Watch this episode on our Youtube Channel: The Nikki Glaser Podcast Follow the pod on Instagram for bonus content: @NikkiGlaserPod Leave us your voicemail: Click Here To Record Nikki's Tour Dates: nikkiglaser.com/tour Brian’s Animations: youtube.com/@BrianFrange More Nikki: IG More Brian: IG More producer Noa: IGSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Catch Jon Stewart back in action on The Daily Show and in your ears with The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. From his hilarious satirical takes on today's politics and entertainment to the unique voices of correspondents and contributors, it's your perfect companion to stay on top of what's happening now. Plus, you'll get special content just for podcast listeners, like in-depth interviews and a roundup of the week's top headlines. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And Nikki Glaser pops in Tanya just busts out. She's in the songwriting group, so she writes songs every single week. They get a prompt. We should do it
Starting point is 00:01:07 for comedians, Brian, where you have a word or two and you have to write a joke around it. I used to do that back in the day and it doesn't work. It's not productive. I used to be called the 5x5 and there were some pretty good names in this
Starting point is 00:01:23 5x5 group. Let's name some names. There is like the epstein list which um yeah bill clinton yeah and david copperfield yeah no one's talking about him being on that list i know he made himself disappear yeah oh look at that Same joke opposite end Damn it I didn't make the joke Because I've made it so many times Every time it comes up I go Oh he must not be that good
Starting point is 00:01:50 He can't make himself disappear I thought I was clever We all do But no Michelle Wolf Was on the 5x5 Alice Wetterlin From Silicon Valley
Starting point is 00:02:04 Matt Coff Who is Wr writer for the daily show for oh these are great names michelle wolf can i just bookmark really quick and just slide in and say she was the first person i ever knew who had to quit fro-yo because i have a fro-yo is an addiction anya's been addicted to it before i've been addicted to it um it's been like the only thing i eat all day i'll eat it for every meal like i've gone through been addicted to it um it's been like the only thing i eat all day i'll eat it for every meal like i've gone through stages in my life where it's the only thing and she was the first person who we used to michelle and i used to go get fro you together that was like our thing and she was the first person to be like oh yeah i don't i don't eat that anymore
Starting point is 00:02:38 and i was just like what wait what she's like well you can go do something else but i was like how what do you mean you don't eat anymore like Like this is 12 hands. Wait, 16 handles. Yeah. That was the name of the place in New York. 16 handles. That was our thing, but she quit it. And I really respected that. And I also respected episode where it's just, it's not as healthy as you think it is. No, it, it is in moderation, but if you're eating it constantly and it's all you eat, it's it can be like you know lowly caloric but it's not good for you to only eat that do you remember the topics you put on it did you have yeah i just like sprinkles and rice krispies and coconut would be my ideal but if i
Starting point is 00:03:18 was trying to be anorexic it would be rice krispies and then sprinkles i got really into but then you get obsessed with the sugar and you go i can't have any sugar and there's no like sugar-free sprinkles it's all it's yeah it's it's not good now i i avoid i don't crave fro-yo like i used to but it used to be a fro-yo fiend oh remember on not safe like yeah that's when you know you have an eating disorder when everyone knows about it and everyone like everyone is just operating around it and everyone normalizes it. Like no one's like, Nikki, this is all you eat. They're like,
Starting point is 00:03:49 go get your froyo. It's time again. Because I was the boss on that show. So everyone, sure, I'm sure everyone's whispering about like this is not normal, but like it was just, it was just so.
Starting point is 00:04:00 At least it was froyo. It was like, Nikki, go get your meatballs. I think it'd be a little more embarrassing. Or your one carrot or something. People probably think ice cream is fattening or something. That one's hard to do. The carrot one, when you're not eating,
Starting point is 00:04:14 that one's hard to operate with and have a full life to get away with not eating around people. But yeah, when you can lean into it, I'm just a fro-yo maven and i remember i remember tim convy chris's brother made a joke that the size container that i get for fro-yo is like if you flipped it over it would be like what uh like lion tamers that's what i was gonna say what a bear would dance on. It was these giant contagious. And I remember I cried secretly to Chris about it being like,
Starting point is 00:04:48 Tim made a joke about my fro-yo. And like, Chris was like, why are you crying? Like we always make jokes about your fro-yo, but it's like, he didn't know the under, like all of the bullshit underneath all the shame of like,
Starting point is 00:05:00 this is the only thing I eat. And like, it's, it just sucks when your thing that you are addicted to that's ruining your life, no one notices it because it's like a big joke or whatever. It's just so, and you do it to yourself. It's no one else's fault. But you don't really do it to yourself
Starting point is 00:05:15 because there's no free will. But go back to the joke group. Taking the bookmark out, Michelle Wolf bookmark. Yeah, so it's called Five by Five because we would do um five jokes um every week i don't remember if it's every week or every day but that's why it's called five by oh five jokes every day for five days a week so monday through friday oh that's a lot though and it could just be premises and then we toss things out and we'd all reply to each other
Starting point is 00:05:40 and discuss like oh that premise is really good or here's a text was it a text chain it was email oh okay on email and it was um i don't think i it got you thinking about jokes but other than that i don't think it really helped anybody all that much it was just like oh i gotta do the five by five and then you would just poop out some shit joke like what if uh dogs could talk and it's just like i think i would be good at it i would i think i would i think i would operate well in this i think i want to do the five by five i think i'm gonna so who would be in your five by five what i think you ari like people who i'm not embarrassed to be unfunny around because that's the thing is you're gonna be unfunny but i also want people who i respect comedically who i I know respect me. And so I have to keep that respect up.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Like I learned yesterday in my voice lesson, I was playing this new song that I'm working on. And he was like, this is really interesting. Like he was like laughing at the lyrics. He was just he's always bowled over by like the songs I bring in because he's just like, what is she saying in this one? Like Taylor Swift lyrics. I'll just be like, wait, what are we talking about? So the song i did was by the mountain goats and i love it it's called no children have you ever heard it it's just like this really upbeat song but it's really about um a couple like breaking up and how they want to stay together but they're also like they hate
Starting point is 00:06:58 each other and it's just but it's all done i love the paradox of like a happy song and it's so dark. And so the chorus is like, I hope you die. I hope we both die. And it's just all about just hoping the person dies, but also wanting to stay with them. And like, I hope we hang on past the last exit. I hope it's already too late. So it's like, I hope we hang on. But I also hope like we're doomed and it's already too late. So it's just this juxtaposition.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Anyway, I sing the whole song and he goes, he's just like oh every time you say like i went through it two times and he goes every time you play it like i keep hearing new things this is this song is bonkers and so he's like i need to record this so he's like i want to record you he was like i gotta play this for angela his wife later he's like i gotta play this for her later she's gonna love these lyrics this is crazy so he records it and then suddenly i'm like really much better like because he's recording it and then he goes then i kind of fucked up but then i go can we do it again i record it again and it's even better and then i fucked and then i go let me try to get one more time and he at the end of it he's like i think i just stumbled onto something with you when you are forced to perform and like it's going to be record you step it up more so than just in
Starting point is 00:08:12 front of me and i was like yeah i think that that needs to i need to um implement that more in my life to have results of like the pressure which you know is not a new concept whatsoever but that's why i think the five by five might work for me can i add an idea to five by five yeah why don't you guys give yourself an end date so that no one feels guilty about dropping out and more people want to participate because there's a dry january or something you do like a funny february i i kind of like the idea of if you don't do it then you're out of the group. That's what Anya's group is like. If she doesn't turn in a song, you get kicked out.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I'm sure there's like- Not forever, but like you got to really earn your way back in and be like, I'm really going to stick with this because it's not, this isn't just, everyone has to, that keeps it honest so that you have to turn in crap if crap is all you have. Because that's the whole point of it. Yes. If you don't do it, then why be it?
Starting point is 00:09:04 And there's an excuse for turning in crap because you're like i had to turn in something or else i get kicked out of the group so you have like a little fallback so i kind of like that idea of like you can miss two weeks or whatever it is but then you're out i kind of like that maybe um yeah but also having a being able to but a song is so much harder. I mean, I could think of a thousand jokes a day and just give one. I challenge you to come up with a thousand jokes in a day. Oh yeah. I mean, they might not be good to you. But I think songwriters.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Yeah. If I was trying. Taylor's really come up with one thousand jokes. Look at my notebook. I write, I have a note. Will you give me some jokes girl? Encyclopedia, it's this big. I'm not joking.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Why don't you ever pitch me jokes? What are you doing with them? What do you mean pitch you joke? I just say it. Yeah, you just like write. You go, I think you could make a joke about this. And then like I would pay you for that stuff. Okay, I'll get out my dictionary.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah, you gotta do. You should pitch me some jokes on the podcast. I'll bring it. That would be so fun. Yeah, because I would love some. I just sometimes. I don't think we're grasping how much 1,000 is. I mean, that is so many jokes.
Starting point is 00:10:13 That's obviously an exaggeration. That's her first joke. Yeah, the joke is, I'm a liar. Was just being exaggerating. A hundred. Okay. A hundred. I could do it.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I could see a hundred they might be stupid and then I wouldn't have any for the next day I think it's similar the only thing about jokes is that songs have to have
Starting point is 00:10:32 a verse chorus like sometimes pre-chorus bridge like it just has so many parts to it yeah
Starting point is 00:10:40 I guess you can write a little jingle you can write but I asked Anya like do you have to turn in do you have to turn in a whole song? And she was like, no, sometimes my song's only a two-minute song.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I don't really know what that means. But sometimes she writes shorter songs. Good songs are only two minutes. Yeah. I mean, it's- Eric Clapton. Really? Is the master of that.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Yeah. What? Jimmy Hendrix, too. Really? Eric Clapton is the master of two-minute songs? Yeah. I didn't know that Okay yeah
Starting point is 00:11:06 There's no rules Except that I have to write a song It's only those who break the rules that truly succeed Is what I'm finding You gotta bend the rules No This is like the theme of Fargo
Starting point is 00:11:23 In the first season of Fargo Where it's like the main character is following all the rules And he's not succeeding Yeah. uh person who's getting taken advantage of and if you break the rules just enough with a good moral compass you wind up succeeding this is why people who are narcissists they just steamroll and become the president they don't have that self-doubt yes yeah it's true whatever it kind of goes into this did you see that clip going around some a bestie sent it to me and said i think you've referenced this but you didn't know who it was but i believe i don't know whatever it is is it was rick rubin talking to oh i sent it to you you sent it to me too a bunch of people did too like or you did and then another person and then this other person said i think this is who you're referencing but it was rick rubin talking about um how you are not supposed to make art for the audience you're supposed to make it
Starting point is 00:12:27 for yourself and then that will be you don't you shouldn't care what the audience thinks and then i sent it to chris and was like what do you think about this because i think chris is more of the mindset of like there's a little of both like i because there's some jokes in my special where i'm like i like this a lot and it makes me laugh but like it didn't do well i tested it many times it's not like i just tested that night it didn't do well like it hasn't done well ever do i keep it because it brings me joy like clearly it's not an and the audience is what you that's how you make money and you should be pleasing them so i'm kind of i don't know how to feel about that in any art you can push it till
Starting point is 00:13:05 it's too far like if someone makes a short film and it's just it's their ultimate artistic expression but you watch it and it's just like this makes no fucking sense it's just a bunch of colors and shapes and there's no dialogue and it's like yeah now you're just being obnoxious and pretentious but that's your interpret that's what rick rubin was saying that's everyone's interpretation no everyone there's someone out there was saying. That's everyone's interpretation. No, but there's someone out there who will like it and there's more than that one person. Yeah, the audience
Starting point is 00:13:31 will find you. Fine. The audience finds you and then you have four total fans. You're so right. There's been so many times where I've thought something is so shitty and I go, this person's so proud of themselves for making this choice and it's the wrong choice because it's just... And I'm talking about myself, like watching this edit for my special, which I just finished doing, I think, the final edit on.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And Brian, you gave notes on it too. Thank you so much, Brian. I just watched it. Can I just say, it is great. Yeah, it is great. It came out better than I thought it was going to come out. Me too. It's tight.
Starting point is 00:14:04 It's tight. Yeah. The It's tight And it looks amazing The edit's really good Because we tightened it up Both shows were amazing It would be so nice to have so much more time And fill it up with all the jokes Do you have a release date yet? No, not yet
Starting point is 00:14:20 But hopefully soon I'll tell you as soon as I know for sure but um in watching there were parts of it that i was so frustrated with yesterday i like i finished the edit this morning i woke up really early because yesterday i attempted it and i got so bummed out because like at the top of the show i just was making some choices with my performance that i'm just like why did you do that why Why are you being like, I made some choices where I'd like, I think because I was so overwhelmed,
Starting point is 00:14:48 I literally almost cried when I walked out because the audience was clapping so much and so enthusiastic. I've never become emotional from a crowd in my whole life. And there's been amazing crowds, but for some reason that one would like hit me like a fucking wall. And I almost cried. So then I had to like go to a place where I was like turn off feelings and so it kind of made the start of the show for me to be I seem pretty
Starting point is 00:15:11 callous because I'm not smiling a lot because I'm trying to I had to shut that off right before I began because I was just like Jesus Christ you guys like I haven't even talked yet you're making me cry with how much you like love me And so I had to turn that off. And then when I go into my jokes, I'm not, like, smiling as much as I usually smile during these jokes. So they just seem psychopathic. So I was so mad at myself. I'm like, why are you so cool? Like, I'm taking a special.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I'm not going to smile. And then I realized you did it because you were preserving. You didn't want to give. Like, you were trying your best, girl. You were just trying your best. And you didn't do it the way you should have. And you would give anything to do it again. But you didn't want to give, like you were trying your best, girl. You're just trying your best and you didn't do it the way you should have and you give anything to do it again, but you can't. And the idea, the fact that I know I fucked up is something. I didn't notice.
Starting point is 00:15:53 You learned from that. Now you'll notice because I called it out, but I swear to God, I want everyone, don't read into that too much if you're like, she seems like a bitch up at the top. It's because I was overwhelmed by feelings and I shut him off for a little bit. And then I, I let it back in. And then I start smiling more throughout the special because I, as I'm watching those,
Starting point is 00:16:12 I'm like, no one likes a girl who doesn't smile. Like you got to be a likable woman. You got to smile more. And I'm like, got to take that construction workers advice. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:22 He knows all of this is construction workers who care so much. Yes. They know what's best for their little girl. There are some Nikki Glaser jokes that if you take away
Starting point is 00:16:31 the sarcasm and the smile, it just becomes a Mein Kampf-esque tirade. It's nuts, dude. You should kill your friends. Yeah. You should.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Not only that, you should kill your... If they're they're pregnant yes there's some psychotic message in here and it's please no i'm joking throw her off a bridge it's so it's so wild annie watched the the cut before this one and she even said like hey maybe you can take out this one joke just to like soften it a little bit and i hadn't seen it like i hadn't really paid attention yet at this point i was like oh no so as i'm watching it i'm like oh i see what she's talking about like this is so if you don't know who i am this is your first intro to who i am it's really jarring and so i just want to warn everyone to just stick with it a little bit the jokes are good but, but I'm not smiling, so they seem a little insane.
Starting point is 00:17:26 But the special did turn out great. But there was just so many moments of like, why did you do that? And I felt that way about other artists. Like, why did you do that? And so to feel about it by yourself, you kind of realize everyone's just trying their fucking best. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:42 And sometimes your best. Camara. Why did you do that? had so many camera moments yeah um but i feel so accomplished that i'm done editing is hell i i i think it's the worst time of my life it just everything feels unbalanced i think it's the absolute it's it's the worst time of my life. It just, everything feels unbalanced. I think it's the absolute, it's like being pregnant in your last month, Noah. Like, is that what's the hardest month for people? I'm not in my last month. I wouldn't know. No, but I mean, like, you've done your research.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Like, you know what you're in for? What do people say? Yeah, I guess because they just want it to be over. Yes, and it's uncomfortable. Come on, let's go. And you don't like the way you look or feel. Like, I don't mean to compare. I'm just trying to compare it to something I've heard is like just always going to be bad.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And for me, before I give birth to a special, I have to edit it and I hate it because you can't go back and change it. You got to deal with what you already did. There's nothing you can do to change it. Nothing. There's nothing I can do to go back and change it. You got to deal with what you already did. There's nothing you can do to change it. Nothing. There's nothing I can do to go back and retake those lines. You look like being a senior in high school. Last semester. It's like senioritis.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Yeah. But you don't have to. You have edititis. I'm trying to also encapsulate having to look at yourself and realize you're a failure in all the ways. Look at it with a fine detail and cut out anything that's possibly going to make the special worse. Yes. And, oh no, I haven't even looked at the pictures for the new podcast logo yet because I can't
Starting point is 00:19:19 look at myself in any other way yet. I did a photo shoot a month ago and I have not posted any of the photos or looked at a single one because I've just been, I just don't want to look at myself right now. It's too much. But then you reach, you get this over this hump
Starting point is 00:19:34 where if you watch yourself enough, you start to think of them as someone else. And then it gets easier. But then it's just, I'm just so glad it's over and I'm so glad I like it. And it always gets to be this way. So look forward to that.
Starting point is 00:19:48 It's coming out this year at some point. And then it's on to the next one, which I want to talk about a bit. I started writing this morning when we get back after this because I'm on to new material. Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show, which means he's also back in our ears on The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. The Daily Show podcast has everything you need to stay on top of today's news and pop culture.
Starting point is 00:20:14 You get hilarious satirical takes on entertainment, politics, sports, and more from John and the team of correspondents and contributors. The podcast also has content you can't get anywhere else, like extended interviews and a roundup of the weekly headlines. Listen to The Daily Show, ears edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, so I'm working on the new hour of stand-up or like just new jokes and i was thinking about um this moment i had with this young girl i was doing this podcast george janko is that yes george janko's podcast and his girlfriend's this young hot girl jean guy jean guy yeah oh
Starting point is 00:21:00 yeah janko jeans he would look at some those, but he's just the sweetest guy. He's so great. I didn't know what I was in for when I went in, but he has this beautiful girlfriend who he's now engaged to, but she was talking about being worried about a woman following her around a store and she thought she was being trafficked. And I realized that that's just never a fear I've ever had. Like during... Like sex trafficked?
Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah. I mean, I should have feared it when i was younger that's what it is they just follow you like a car falls yeah in traffic they jill jillian maxwell you but they just and then they steal they find a way to steal you they track you they study you they they kind of they video they videotape this guy girl was filming her how old is this girl though she's early 20s oh okay and so but i remember her saying this and me being like oh my god i've never i never worried about being trafficked and i'm past the trafficking age like i'm out of it never will be traffic no it's good to know well maybe to like
Starting point is 00:21:56 clean someone's home or something or raise their kids but like i'm not getting trafficked for sex you can still be kidnapped for ransom though because, because of your status. Oh, that's good. Thank God. Well, there was some bit there. Don't encourage people. No, please. And no one's going to pay that. Any press is good press.
Starting point is 00:22:15 That's a good point. Yeah, I thought that was a funny thing to hear a new fear that I could have felt when I was in my early 20s. But I didn't fear that because it wasn't as prevalent or known about. To hear a new fear. That I could have felt. When I was in my early 20s. But I didn't fear that. Because it wasn't as prevalent. Or known about. You know. Like being trafficked.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Wasn't something people talked about. No one ever talked about that. There weren't signs on every. Bathroom. Bathroom door. Saying like. Are you being trafficked. When are you being trafficked. It's always just like a depressed girl.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Covering. They cover her ethnicity. Even though we know. She has a hoodie. Always. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:43 She's got a hoodie. And they. I really hope that helps some people and you're i i try to look out for girls being trafficked but you do yeah because it's like usually a girl who's kind of scared not dressed right for the weather is what they say why would she be in an airport they're really flying them on like a commercial plane oh yeah yeah. And they're not going like help ever? They do. They have hand signals that they can do to flight attendants are like trained to look for these certain hand signals.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Wow. I almost said the white power hand signal. You know that? What is it? No, it's some kind of hand signal that a girl can and all the flight attendants are now trained to know what that is. But you're supposed to look with like a shady guy or shady woman with a scared girl. And if the girl
Starting point is 00:23:29 The signal is you make the white power symbol and then you go the Jews will not replace us and that's the signal to the flight attendant that you are being sex trafficked. I don't know why. Yeah, that's what they're doing when they say that. Those guys were all being sex traffic
Starting point is 00:23:46 malicious at all this whole time why don't the women know the the women with them know the signal yeah that's my question or you just they probably do but you just do it when they're not looking they can't look at you all the time there's always going to be a time where they might right and it's they're gonna have to piss But how do the victims know how to do it? Where do they learn it? I listened to a podcast about a woman who escaped being sex trafficked and she kind of
Starting point is 00:24:13 just over time picked it up via message boards and just you know, there's ways. But if she's on message boards. You get to the library somehow, you get on a computer, you start figuring out like what can i do to get out of this also get left in rooms alone with other girls being trafficked a lot you spend a lot of your time from what i've read about it i've watched those youtube videos of like the
Starting point is 00:24:35 soft underbelly i think is what they're called and it was a girl that had been sex trafficked and she just spends they spent all day in motel rooms uh just waiting and then they ran out another motel room and you just go to that motel room and fuck john's that your pimp has brought in for you and your your john eventually has to go and get lunch or whatever and so you can kind of talk to the other girls and there's there's little ways but man also they probably have stockholm syndrome where it's hard to leave for sure but if they're on if they're going to do the symbol and they're on the internet, then why don't they just reach out to someone on the internet, is what I'm asking. Stockholm.
Starting point is 00:25:11 But they're willing to do the symbol. And because fear is also just fear that they'll keep the shit out of you. Okay. Yes. Then that's not the same people looking at the symbol then. What do you mean? Because if they're willing to do the symbol on an airplane to get to save themselves, why aren't they willing to just go on the internet and say, save me?
Starting point is 00:25:28 Because they don't have access to the internet. Oh, but that's how they learned the symbol, I thought. Oh, I think the symbol's just like... They could sneak out to a library or something like that to get access to the internet. But if they found out that you tried to be saved on the internet, they'll just beat the shit out of you or kill you. And if you're on an airplane, it's like a public spot and you might be able to get away with it.
Starting point is 00:25:47 That might be the thought process there. If I can get out right now on this plane where everyone's around, they're not going to kill me. Or it might just be not like a certain symbol, but maybe the flight attendants and whoever is trained
Starting point is 00:25:58 to look for certain marks on the body or just a certain body language. I thought that's what the button was when you press yes oh for the person i have a picture of a woman i've just mouthed help to a flight attendant but it's because the guy next to me is listening to his wait didn't you have a guy like sleep on you on the plane or something he was just i filmed it and it looked way worse than it was everyone was like holy shit what's happening here he was leaning to talk to the person behind him,
Starting point is 00:26:26 but he was leaning into my seat. So it only lasted as long as you saw me film it for, but people were like, if this is happening, it was still annoying and it was funny to capture, but it wasn't the whole time
Starting point is 00:26:35 and I absolutely would have called it out had it been. Yes, so, but you know about this, Elizabeth, like Elizabeth Smart, when she was captured, she like went to parties I understand Stockholm Syndrome
Starting point is 00:26:48 I was just saying I don't think they're like going to the library and learning the symbol there no I don't think they are either I don't know we gotta get more information about the symbol I think I already said this on the show but I used to work in trucking radio and a lot of sex trafficking
Starting point is 00:27:04 would be witnessed at truck stops so there was this um organization of women truckers who created these uh chapsticks and in the cap of the chapsticks they they would give it to girls in the bathroom who they would feel like are victims like they would notice things about them because you know there's showers and everything your lips look gross here you go so they would notice things about them because, you know, there's showers and everything. Your lips look gross. Here you go. So they would give them an inside of the cap. There was like a number or like a message, need help, give this signal or something like that. And it would be hidden inside the cap so the men wouldn't know. Oh my God. That's insane that we have to do stuff like that as humans.
Starting point is 00:27:42 But that's cool. There's that Brie Larson movie. What was that movie called? Room? Yes. It's one of those tense movies of all time. I mean, go watch Room.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Before Brie Larson became Mrs. Marvel. She was Amy Schumer's sister in Trainwreck, the movie I was in. Oh my God, she was? I was in a scene with her. Well, no,
Starting point is 00:28:02 we were at the same party in a scene, but I don't think I acted with her. But yeah, we went out to lunch during that time too. Oh my God, she was? I was in a scene with her. Well, no, we were at the same party in a scene, but I don't think I acted with her. But yeah, we went out to lunch during that time too. Oh my God, wow. She's very nice. But yeah, that movie Room where she's kept in a room. Yeah, she's with her son. With her son.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And then she gets, I don't want to spoil anything. And the guy impregnates her, right? Like the kidnapper is the one that impregnates her, right? Potentially, yeah. And it's just, it's so tense. I can't believe they're able to ratchet up i read that book but i don't think i wanted to see that yeah yeah it was really good but the tension it's like you ever see uncut gems no because i've heard about the tension and there's a few movies that are just so tense and then the release of tension you think would be relieving, but it's almost like I got,
Starting point is 00:28:46 it's not. Like when the tension gets released in Uncut Gems, it's almost like that tension just follows you for the rest of your life now. You cannot, it will never be relieved.
Starting point is 00:28:55 What about It Follows? Have you ever heard about the plot of that? I love It Follows. It Follows is maybe one of the only horror movies that I actually would rewatch. Wait, what about the scene?
Starting point is 00:29:07 I don't even, I've never seen it, but I was reading on a Reddit thread the other day. It was like, what are the, what screen, screen grab the scariest moments in movies for you? And so people were just posting just like a screenshot of like these, like, you know, when a face suddenly appears in a doorway. And there was one from It Follows where a tall man was in a house. And it was so creepy and i know the plot of it follows because it's like there's this thing that is always walking to you to kill you and you can and it is always walking at like a walking pace so you can run from it your whole life but it will always be walking to you and will always find you so you
Starting point is 00:29:39 got to keep going which is really not that hard to do is this yes yes like a giant john lennon i hate it his eyes are so good is that such a scary scene brian what happens oh my god it looks like tony hawk i got the goosebumps and my nipples are so hard i hate that that's actually that that guy is not scary that. That is actually Tony Hawk and they're about to go skateboarding. The monster comes later. It follows as a, um, it's,
Starting point is 00:30:11 uh, it's a parable about emerging sexuality and the monster is, um, gayness. The monster is basically like the, the, your sexuality and the fears and dangers that come with it. Because the monster itself is actually a sexually transmitted disease.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yeah, you have sex with someone and then the monster will start chasing them. What? Until they die and then it goes back to you. Fundamentalist Christian scare tactic hell. You fuck people to get the monster off chasing you, but then the monster eventually gets them and then it comes back to get you. Oh, so it follows sex yeah but it's not telling you never to have sex it's telling you that like your loss of innocence it's basically like a symbol symbolism of your loss of innocence and entering this new world where you are now a sexual being that i think it's more like that
Starting point is 00:31:00 you didn't feel different after you lost your virginity you weren't like the world i was like i'm cool but i was like 20 years old so i was 21 and i felt like i remember eating an omelet and being like this is like the first omelet as like an adult it was like right after and we were barely talking we had nothing to talk about after we had sex because he was regretting it because he had a girlfriend um and i could just tell everything is shift it was the first time that i felt talk about it follows you know what follows sex men being weird men getting changing so much men suddenly not being able to hold conversation men suddenly like not really wanting to talk to you anymore not really having anything to say suddenly regretting everything they did just did uh that was what it followed for me after that i just remember being like this guy isn't like cool to me anymore they ain't standing in a doorway facing you
Starting point is 00:31:49 yeah standing in a doorway get trying to get out but instead of running from it i like ran towards it that that terrifying change um okay so it falls i love that you love that movie is it but it's so scary right like i don't think i can handle something you know what the idea is creeping at me slowly yeah no that's the that's the walking instead of running no walking so much scarier than running they're always walking they are well now well in like most classic movies the monster like either can can like space jump and all of a sudden it's right in front of you when it was just across the room. No, I don't like that either. Or they do this stupid... Yeah. Like, slithering or scattering on a wall. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yeah, crab. The other scene is the movie Hereditary. There was a screenshot of it, and she's in the corner of the wall, and you can barely see her because it's so dark. You have to, like, really look, and you go, oh, my God, what the fuck is up there? It's so crazy. I wouldn't see it.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Hereditary is the one, is the movie that like everyone says is the most scarring and insane. Have you seen that, Brian? No, haven't seen Hereditary. Okay, I've talked about it a million times on here. Sounds like I wouldn't want to watch it. No, it's traumatic. Okay. I know it is the scariest thing I ever saw that made me, like I slept with my sister
Starting point is 00:33:01 that night, which never happened. Event Horizon. Wait, why? What happens in it? Oh, it's a ship that goes to hell. Like a spaceship. I slept with my sister that night, which never happened. Event horizon. Wait, why? What happened? Oh, that's a ship that goes to hell. Like a spaceship. You've never seen it.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Oh my God. It's so scary. They like recovered the, um, like tapes from the spaceship. I remember the part that was the worst is they just, the ship disappears and someone has to go find it. They find the ship, the cruise,
Starting point is 00:33:23 not on it, but there's like blood and stuff. Everyone's like, okay, what happened? People people one guy's like pulling his intestines out of his mouth like no people are like like chopping each other up but then when he's on the ship like he's hallucinating so the lights are going on and off and then this woman is just facing him that's his like wife that killed herself or whatever oh so when the lights go off so when it gets closer yeah it's just so many shots of like yes that kind of oh my god creepy little things like even
Starting point is 00:33:51 the blair witch at the very end where the guy's it's just a shot of him facing the wall there's there's nothing you see but it's just like really like a thing that's challenging you to find it in the thing and like it's there's a subreddit of when you see it or whatever. And you search a thing. Some of those things are so stupid. I was watching, I think it was Insidious 2 or something. And it was like this woman was in
Starting point is 00:34:16 an attic or a basement and it was pitch black. I don't know why she went down there, but she decided to go into the pitch black basement. Laundry. She was doing her laundry and she had to And she couldn't see anything But there was a chance there was a monster down there And so at some point she took out a match And she lit the match
Starting point is 00:34:33 And then of course the monster was right there Facing her And I think that's just so stupid Because that means that like The monster was just sitting there Like waiting I can't wait till she lights this match when she she's gonna be so scared when she sees how close i am and that he's she's
Starting point is 00:34:52 walking and he's backing up to be face to face with her like stumbling over like trash that's in the basement like the lawnmower silently if you think if you want scary movies to be less scary just start thinking about all the prep and setup that the monster had to do to make this moment happen the monster really works hard yeah like to get under beds they have to like clear out all the clutter first and like put it somewhere else and be like totally still they can't fart burp or anything no like imagine the guy from the movies like he has to go to home depot he's got to get a hook from somewhere you guys have a hook you know he's like that takes quite a lot just picture them eating lunch like the guy from saw had to like stop
Starting point is 00:35:37 building a contraption so he could like eat and make a turkey sandwich he He does a door dance. Eat a salad. My sandwich was supposed to be here five minutes ago. Picture the saw guy like just horny, but is like, I can't do anything about it right now. Like Walgreens. They have struggles too. That takes away some of the fear. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I think the scariest movie that scarred me the most was in eighth grade when Mrsrs cannon stupidly showed us um the day after tomorrow i've never seen it but i've heard you talk about yeah it's i've talked about it before but it was like this apocalyptic movie about what if there was a nuclear war and it was all set in lawrence kansas i guess which i didn't even know i would end up going to college there. It was eighth grade, but we were reading this book called Z for Zachariah about the end of the world, like a nuclear apocalypse. And she was like, this would be appropriate to show them to tie into this book. And it was so just like the idea that this thing could hit and then we all are just like skeletons, like it would flash. And then there's kids like playing baseball and they would just go and it would be like an x-ray of them and they're like and that
Starting point is 00:36:49 for whatever reason that was so scary to me like just seeing people in their everyday lives become skeletons and um and i couldn't sleep and i had so much fear and it was probably the most scared i've ever been as a kid for the extended period. And then I always tell the story, but I remember so distinctly going down to my parents' bedroom to sleep on their floor for the probably 20th time that month. I slept on my parents' floor. I'd pull out this gymnastic mat from under the bed. The monster would be there. I'd say, excuse me, can I get this mat?
Starting point is 00:37:21 And I would pull out the mat and I would unfold it and sadly make my bed. And I really remember, that was the first time in my life i was like you got to get it together nikki like this isn't gonna last you you have to quit this like it was my i've quit so many things in my life and had that moment of like this isn't working for you this isn't manageable you you gotta quit this and that was the i remember pulling out that mattress it was so sad it was like having a drink after you've been sober for a bit. Like I would like, you know, be able to sleep in my room for a week. And then I'd go down, like, can I sleep with you?
Starting point is 00:37:51 Unfold the mat, make the bed. And I went down, the final time I ever went down, I opened the door and I said, I'm scared. And my dad goes, of what? And they're like asleep. And I go, nuclear war. And my dad just goes, what? And I like asleep and i go nuclear war and my dad just goes what and i go i'm just scared like any second it could just like happen there's no warning there's no like sirens or anything like it just will like skeletons and it's like no you won't even be
Starting point is 00:38:18 skeleton yeah yeah he just your skin blows off much, which was the simplest thing. He just said, Nikki, there is literally nothing you can do about it. And I was just like, and I remember thinking that he goes, what are you, what,
Starting point is 00:38:35 what can you do? What are you going to do? Like, this is a guy that lived through the sixties, you know, like Bay of Pigs, nuclear, like he's,
Starting point is 00:38:44 he had run this one through i could tell and that was just the dating scene he had lived through this fear of like the world ending and there it's true there's nothing you can do and it really made me i just remember shutting the door and being like i can live now because i don't i'm not responsible for this anymore and it was it was so freeing and i can't believe that's what did it i would have never thought that was what did it but i don't know if that would have comforted me as a child because of the i the need for control i think it i don't know i wonder if i was that if your parents the people who know so know everything to you i guess
Starting point is 00:39:21 at this point in eighth grade they were starting to learn that they didn't know everything but there's still the authority and they tell you there's nothing you can do. It's my same joke about bondage because I like being tied up because someone's like, you can't do anything. It's like forced laziness. So if you can't do anything
Starting point is 00:39:38 you are free to not worry. It was like we were talking about the other day where I was like, I like knowing that nothing's my fault. I forget what we were saying but there was some comfort i took from the adoption thing yeah knowing thing maybe it was that but it was something about not feeling responsible first if i if i if i don't feel responsible then i can just like let go of it and be like it's not my problem that's why like that phrase. Like it's none of your business. What other people think about you?
Starting point is 00:40:07 That, that works on me when I'm reminded of it because it just cuts right through it of like, okay, well now I, now it's annoying if I care. Now I'm like being a little nosy bitch. Okay,
Starting point is 00:40:18 great. You'll never know anyway. So it's like, why are you trying? Yeah. I liked that. That's definitely a healthier reaction. Like when just letting go, like the book you're reading I liked that That's definitely a healthier reaction Like when
Starting point is 00:40:25 Just letting go Like the book you're reading You've just let go Of your responsibility Whereas If that happened to me I'd probably be like I need to get in touch with Gorbachev
Starting point is 00:40:33 Maybe if he just listens to me You know You write a little letter But I think my dad Even ran that through There must be something we can do He was like Are you gonna write a letter
Starting point is 00:40:42 Like you don't even know Where to send it Like I think we kind of Went through it What do we do I had no idea Even my therapist I remember one time Said because I was struggling with
Starting point is 00:40:54 Imposter syndrome and I know I've said this before So I'm sorry to repeat myself but She um I was like I just feel like I'm fooling everyone and she was like How dare you think that So you think you're smarter than everyone? So you literally think you are so smart that all these smart people, you tricked them. You're so good.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And I was like, as soon as she makes it that I think I'm hot shit, I don't feel that way anymore. It took it away. Yeah. And then I like, there's something that soothing about that. Brian, you watched a standup special, you said? Well, re-listened because i don't think i'm if i'm not mistaken i don't think there's video of this special i think it's simply an album what david tell that skanks for the memories no but close mitch headberg
Starting point is 00:41:36 similar year okay hold on let me try to get it that was that mitch headberg one called it's about corn uh year of corn or something god what was that i don't i one called? It's about corn Year of Corn or something Oh I don't remember That's not ringing a bell But that was definitely Louis C.K. No no You're getting further away
Starting point is 00:41:53 Okay well what was it? Brian Regan Standing Up His first album Oh what? Really? That's not on vid? I don't think so I don't
Starting point is 00:42:03 I tried to look for it And and it was just an album. And I have to say, if you haven't listened to that album in a while, listen to the first 12 minutes of that album. I don't think I've ever heard any recording of anyone crushing harder for that long, sustained amount of time than the first 11 minutes of that album. It is absurd. The people in that audience are in hysterics it's almost like they need to leave for their own health oh my god they're laughing
Starting point is 00:42:31 so much how do you listen to every single line is an uproarious laughter and it and i'm laughing too i'm not i'm i'm listening to it and usually if people are laughing too much i'm like okay chill or this is like i get why they're laughing this much this is absurd just the just the rhythm and the amount of jokes and the way he you know he does his like act outs are so funny and he just piles on the what is the bit is it the u2 stuff yeah well yeah is that the bit and the setups the setups are so simple because the setup's just like i'm stupid and And it's like all the stuff about learning words Yes yes
Starting point is 00:43:08 It's so good I agree with you I don't think there's anything better For one goose What's the plural for moose I fed the moose And the trees and the woods The meese want the food And then he just switches it to meese
Starting point is 00:43:23 I remember seeing him at God where where was i i was with ryan hamilton we were at the beacon we got to go see him and i remember nearly falling out of my chair which has never happened to me at a comedy show but i remember because he was talking with the word cabinet we have to i don't even know i couldn't even repeat any of what he was saying about it but just the idea that it's cabinet cabinet like we have to do that it's so why can't you just say cabinet like it's cabinet like why do we spell it away it was so funny and then he i remember almost falling uh and which is rarely rarely happened to me i think it's only happened to me like when laughing with friends I don't think
Starting point is 00:44:06 a comedian has ever made me nearly fall out of my chair but he's he's one of the greatest of all time yeah that's what I said to Allie no question I keep telling Allie I keep like you know she wasn't a huge stand-up fan before she met me and I keep like showing her comedians and I go
Starting point is 00:44:21 oh this person's like the greatest comedian of all time and she says Brian Brian, you say that about every comedian. And it's like, well, no, I say that about there's like 30 of them and I keep showing you those guys over and over again. Yeah, okay. Well, who are you putting in your top five right now?
Starting point is 00:44:38 Let's just do it. My top five right now? Yeah, and it doesn't have to be perfect. We can amend this. Okay. Just off the dome. Top five favorite or greatest fall time Mount Rushmore or greatest of all time, Mount Rushmore? Greatest of all time, Mount Rushmore. Greatest of all time, Mount Rushmore is different than my favorite. I think it would probably be Pryor, Carlin.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I think Louis C.K. is up there. Chappelle and I don't know, Robin Williams. Top five of all time. I'm going gonna add burr and melania to that oh but who would you replace the mount rushmore is only four faces no i'm making it bigger you're gonna expand you're gonna you're going to intrude further into the native land i didn't know that mount rushmore meant just four i just meant it was like in stone that's i just pictured these are the greatest men's faces to be in stone um yeah i'm not well versed in prior but i just trust that he's one of the best because yeah joan rivers is up there but like you gotta give historical significance to some of them too it's just like i wouldn't put lenny bruce up there because i don't
Starting point is 00:45:42 think i've ever heard a lennyny Bruce joke that made me actually laugh. But you have to respect the fact that he was the first one to start really just talking like a normal person. Okay. Up there. How did stand-up not become something before? It's such a new art in terms of the history of art. Like the 50s and 60s. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:01 And oh, okay. So after we get to the break, I want to talk about my mom and I went on a date last night and I saw some of the most talented people in the world. And, um, yeah, I want to talk about that. We'll right after this. Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at the daily show,
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Starting point is 00:47:03 Because at the Fox, it's a musical. And I instantly was like, hell yeah! And my mom was like, what? You want to go? No way! My mom thinks I don't want to do anything. She doesn't understand that she's my friend and I like hanging out with her. She was so excited. So she bought tickets to Funny Girl. I'm guessing when she was drunk because
Starting point is 00:47:19 she doesn't ever spend any money on anything. I think she maybe had an edible or something when she bought this. My mom does not spend money. She does not treat herself. But she was like, I'm going to see Funny Girl the day after my birthday. Because it's her favorite movie of all time. And so we went last night.
Starting point is 00:47:36 And oh my God, the girl that played Fanny Bryce, her name is Katrina McCrimmon. And I think she's the best singer i've ever heard live in my life i mean it was insane i cannot believe this talent i i think she's the best singer i've i just i wrote her on instagram and i felt bad saying best singer i've ever heard live but i just i can't confirm that i haven't heard better on audio, but I knew live this was like, it was just perfect. She was so good. And we were sitting
Starting point is 00:48:10 kind of far away because my mom bought the tickets and so it was, I couldn't see how old she was the whole movie, but Fanny Bryce is supposed to be like, I was like,
Starting point is 00:48:19 mom, will you let me buy them next time? I like, I want to be able to see faces, but she's 25 years old this girl and she fucking nails it and we just can't even believe how good she is my mom and i and we're walking
Starting point is 00:48:31 out and we're like oh my god like that's one of the most talented people i've ever seen in my life singing dancing acting just funny just just able to belt and lower register higher register she just it was so impressive and then we were leaving and i was like you know i have to say like my mom goes how is she just on this like little regional like it's not little i mean the fox is a big place but how is this just not the broadway how is she not so famous and i was like because unfortunately there are a lot of people who can do that and i know it doesn't seem like there's a lot of people that can do it because yeah it is an extraordinary talent but there are a lot of singers in the world and based on my just um training and stuff like i know there's a lot of people that can sing that good not
Starting point is 00:49:25 i think she's exceptional even for how good she is but it's true like singing and dancing and there's lots of people doing it it's very competitive there's not as many roles comedy oh there's there's lots of people doing it i really am glad i selected something that less people do and also there's more of a like if you if you can sing you can sing it's more like there's lots of different ways to be funny i know there's lots of different ways to sing but like there's lots of different levels of talent yes i think overall though there's just too many people pursuing art and you know we grew up in a society stop everyone where everyone has like pretty much the comforts of existence.
Starting point is 00:50:06 They don't have to, you know, do much. And then the boomers told all of the millennials that they could be whatever they want to be when they grow up. And so now we have just a glut of people who are pursuing their passions and their dreams. And it's like, I just want there to be about half. But there are because they eventually fall away because they're not gonna ever make it and they can't sustain doing these open mics forever and and trying and so they fall off either either because they're unlucky because they're they weren't born talented or they just don't work hard enough or whatever they or they just have no luck and they're the
Starting point is 00:50:41 most talented which doesn't really happen that often if you're talented enough you'll find a way i think um and if you work hard enough but it is there was a guy in the show that was so good at tap dancing and i was like this guy has put more hours into tap dancing than i have in sleeping like he is so good at tap dancing but what a very weird skill so oldie timey it was so incredible to watch, but it was just like what a funny thing to be great at that can only... That always baffles me. When someone is so good at something that there's maybe a grand total of
Starting point is 00:51:14 a thousand fans in the world. And like 25 different steps. Tap dancing doesn't have a lot of... No, it does. The feet have to be on the floor a lot, so you can't do many different things. There can't be a lot of jumping have to be on the floor a lot. So you can't do many different things. Jumping in the air and breaks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:28 You have to constantly be doing this. It was so good. It's a good percussionist. Yes. I bet you absolutely do. You're playing the drums with your feet. It totally is that. No,
Starting point is 00:51:36 it was incredible. I mean, there's no question. These people are infinitely more talented than I am in my field. I really, truly believe that. Like I, I don't have to be this good at what I do to make it because there aren't as
Starting point is 00:51:49 many of us. So it's like, I I'm, I'm great. I'm not going to say that I'm not, and I work really hard, but if, if comedy were as popular as singing and dancing is,
Starting point is 00:52:01 and people started when they're like four or five, or I think this girl started when they're like four or five or i think this girl started when she was eight um it would be much more competitive and you probably wouldn't know my name is all i'm saying like and i had to explain that to my mom i'm like you should be so glad i didn't choose musical theater because i even if i was amazing it would be so hard to break through because there's so many people that are amazing because there is places to go and learn early. You can't start stand-up until you're an adult. No parent, like parents
Starting point is 00:52:29 are like encouraging their kids to become good singers and there's no, there's very few parents who are encouraging their eight-year-olds to pursue stand-up comedy. And if they are, they wanted to be stand-up comics and therefore your kid does not have the same, your kid only is going to be a stand-up comic if you neglect them in a weird, very specific way.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Do you want them to have low self-esteem and have depression? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, if you start stand-up when you're eight years old, you will never be funny. No. You'll never be funny. You're doing stand-up because you like jokes. It's rare that kids, it's rare that you find stand-ups that are like, I always knew I was going to be a stand-up when I was a kid. It's not rare, but I'd say it's half of us. And I think the other half are just like, oh, yeah, like I didn't think about it until it was like time to do it.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Kids don't even understand jokes until they're like between six or eight because they don't understand symbolism yet. There's no way for children to understand. Yeah, they think concretely, so they don't understand symbolism yet. There's no way for children to understand. Yeah, they think concretely, so they can't understand metaphor. So there's no way to start early. And that's why you hear kids saying jokes and parents are laughing. Kids say the darndest things or whatever, or TV shows. Yeah, they're never purposely funny. But you see the kids just kind of being like this, and they have to be prompted, and you
Starting point is 00:53:42 can tell they don't really understand it. No, there's nothing funnier than a kid reading his dad's jokes in an open mic. That's all you get when there's kids doing comedy. It's the least interesting thing ever. There's no funny kids except Ava Ryan, whose mom filmed her. Katie Ryan on
Starting point is 00:53:57 Instagram is the funniest child. Ava Ryan is her daughter, but Katie Ryan's the mom and she's the funniest little girl ever. And she is trying to be funny, so there is an exception to it. She has an old soul, for sure. She has an old soul, that's it. There's no way around that for that girl. I want to say, though, I said on a previous episode
Starting point is 00:54:14 that autistic people aren't funny on purpose, and I want to take that back because I've been watching more of Love on the Spectrum, and they absolutely do understand jokes, but they love puns. Yes, they love the pun, darling. they love puns yes they love they love puns like this girl in this episode was asked this guy if he wants a big kiss
Starting point is 00:54:30 and he kind of like gets like freaked out and then she pulls out a Hershey's kiss and they like love it and it was so cute so I want to say that I misspoke when I said that and I and I might they might also understand irony and things like that they're funny without knowing it that's
Starting point is 00:54:45 true that's what I'm saying they don't do it on purpose unless it's a pun from what I've noticed but I could be wrong final thought the movie the the the production funny girl I had seen the movie before because it's my mom's favorite movie but not because of that my my actually my therapist my my abusive therapist Dr. Busef recommended which I want to say, by the way, I recommended Michelle Wolf go to my therapist, my abusive. And she went like twice and was like, no way. Like she was so on. She like knew early on. She was like, I don't see it.
Starting point is 00:55:16 You're still seeing her. Oh, my God. I dropped her for two, like within two sessions. So I was like, God, she's so good. Michelle knows what to do. Drop Froyo, drop Donna. But so my abusive therapist told me once during a session, she was like, have you ever seen Funny Girl? You would relate to that. You should watch that. And I was like, that's my mom's favorite movie. I should see it. So then I watched it because my therapist told me to. about what I learned because that was over 10 years ago or about 10 years ago and then saw it last night the whole premise of funny girl is that women who aren't beautiful have to be funny and they don't deserve love or fame or success except this one fanny bryce she's not beautiful and the
Starting point is 00:55:58 whole the whole first song is like you're not pretty as a girl in atlantic city you're pretty you're disgusting and you will never have success so just accept that your your life is not going to be as good as if you were pretty which is kind of the premise of my whole special and um which i i kind of like that they were just calling this out but then this girl is like but i'm funny so then she's like but i but i'm really talented so she's really talented she's a really good dancer really good singer but she's not pretty and she has a flat chest and, really good singer, but she's not pretty. And she has a flat chest. And so they're like, you're never going to make it.
Starting point is 00:56:30 But it turns out her talent gets her ahead. So then she gets noticed by this like really handsome guy who believes in her success. And he's just like dazzled by how talented she is. But he's like really handsome and seems to be very rich. And he, she's just like, oh my God, this guy likes me. He's so like, obviously I this guy likes me he's so like obviously i would never think he would even look twice at me so then they both like each other because they both feel like they don't deserve each other he's so enamored by how funny she is and how talented that he's like i don't deserve her and then and he's not that rich it turns out
Starting point is 00:56:59 and she becomes very rich and famous so he's just like i don't deserve her and she's like i don't deserve him because he's so hot and then um i don't want to give away the end that's all he's got come on what he's only hot but she's famous talented funny yep he also oh she thought he was rich okay he she thought he was rich and he's just like he um he comes from like better stock than her so he talks like this and in the in the movie he's and he's like like foreign and kind of mysterious. And he just like deals, he just dresses better and he just carries himself better. And he was the first one to really believe in her. And so she also has that where she's trying to keep him around because she's like, you gave me everything. And everyone in her life is going like, what does this guy even give you?
Starting point is 00:57:38 And she's like, you don't understand. Like he, I can't sing or dance without his belief in me. And I like that the ending isn't what you think it's gonna be but i was watching it like oh my god this is like i i love that this is kind of my life a little bit like i i was talking on the girls chat about how we were i sent some video about these girls being interviewed about do you want to be hotter than your, do you want to be the catch or do you want them to be the catch? Your partner. Them to be the catch.
Starting point is 00:58:10 And most of the girls were like, I want to be the prize. I want him to be like so enamored with me. I want to be the one that's the prize in the relationship. And most of the girls in our girls chat agreed with those girls. Except I guess you you would rather them be the catch yeah so i can look at a hottie and so because then i'll know that they must i must be good yes anyway yeah you must be they like me yes like it's not just your hotness that got them yeah i don't want my hotness to get anyone which which it won't. No, but I do want that. But I also want people to go, whoa, she's with like such a hot person.
Starting point is 00:58:49 He could get way hotter than her. She must be amazing. You want to catfish him. That happens to me all the time. Every time I introduce Allie to someone, people are like, I like you better now because i met your wife your wife is pretty fantastic when i meet guys that their wives are amazing then i'm like oh okay then there's like kind of no way this guy's gonna be annoying if i don't know them yes they're probably not gonna mansplain to me today or anything yes because their wife is cool it's not even like i want the
Starting point is 00:59:21 wife to be the man to be cool though i just want him to be like physically I know this is so shallow I just want people to go how did she get him she must be so funny and cool because I'm leaning into the thing that I do have as opposed to the thing that I feel that I don't have as much like I I know I'm never gonna be as hot as like the hottest girl but like I can probably be as cool as the coolest girl like that that's within reach for me even though i also feel sometimes that that's out of reach but i just thought that was i can't relate at all to a woman who wants to be the one who's the prize but it i feel most women do no can you speak to how you feel about this i think it's more about um having like an insecurity that
Starting point is 01:00:05 he could leave if he's hotter. And he'll have more temptation out there. Oh, yeah. I think that's what it's about. But he chose us because it's not that. That part isn't as important. Nothing less for Taylor. As our humor
Starting point is 01:00:21 and coolness. Right. If you're the catch in a relationship, doesn't that mean that you just, that you settled? Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. Like, oh, I guess I could have done better if I'm the catch. That's how I feel too.
Starting point is 01:00:34 And I want, and I want, I want, we all know this. I want to constantly prove that like, yeah, he could leave me, but he's going to stay with me. Like he could do better.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Everyone knows it. He keeps you on your toes. He could get anyone he wants me but he's gonna stay with me like he could do better everyone knows on your toes he could get anyone he wants but he's choosing this like that makes me feel so special and i feel yeah like i'm i'm constantly earning talks about like you both choose to be in the relationship and i think that's what makes people feel special to each other because we both choose to be here we're not being forced yes not our last resort or anything we're just choosing we're not getting on a plane making symbols with the to the flight attendant get me away from this hottie please okay i feel like yeah i figured it out um yeah but this play i gotta say musicals i go in and i'm like the most of it i spend just being like man i wish this was my life like i should have done musical theater this looks so fun god
Starting point is 01:01:34 it would be so fun to dance and sing like that and oh my god i'll never be that good of a singer god what do i even try for and i go through all these like making it about me and like you're thinking the whole time like yeah and i barely can enjoy it and then we get to intermission i'm like it's not over yet like i have to now wait a half hour yeah and then the second half i um i lose all of that insecurity and i'm just i'm just um i'm bored until the end i want to be over and I wait for it to be over. I was trying to be comedic with that. Aren't you interested in the story? No, not really.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I don't have much of an attention span. Even though this was one of the most incredible performances I've ever seen, I was like, okay, I'm hungry. I want to go home. That's how I feel about everything. Even shows, if I love them, then I'm counting. They've done 12 songs. They can feel At everything Even shows If I love them That I'm counting Like they've done 12 songs They can't possibly do
Starting point is 01:02:27 Like three more Like it's so true I only don't feel that way At Taylor Swift I want to give a shout out To my sister-in-law's aunt So My sister-in-law's aunt
Starting point is 01:02:38 Let's hear it Hold on let me do Okay My brother's wife's aunt Okay She's Victoria Clark And she's the star of a Broadway musical called Kimberly Akimbo. It's currently in its second year on Broadway, and it won the Tony Award for Best Musical. And she won the Tony Award for Best Performer in a Musical this past year.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Yeah, and she's an incredible Tony Award winning musical performer. Damn! And you should go see Kimberly Akimbo because it got extended even though it's a small musical in a smaller theater, which it's rare that a small musical in a smaller theater gets extended beyond its first run because of the money.
Starting point is 01:03:20 This got extended to a second run so you can go see it in New York on Broadway. Kimberly Akimbo. I do want to see more musicals. I was kidding when I said I was bored, but that is how I feel about anything I even love. But musicals are amazing, and I will go see Kimberly Akimbo if I'm able to. It's really good. It's actually funny. Being in a musical is so fun.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Yeah. It is funny. You get to get dressed up and move around and stuff. And you get to dance with other people. Doing dances with people is so fun. Learning a dance. And then harmonizing. And yeah, just like, oh man.
Starting point is 01:03:54 That was the day. Those were the days. This is a whole other discussion we have to wrap up. We should talk about just musicals and stuff in high school and drama. And if you did any of that. Did you do that stuff, Brian? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:06 We're going to have to wait. We'll find out. Oh my God. I can't wait. Thank you guys so much for listening. Um, come see us this weekend in Atlanta and Kansas city. I'm so excited for those shows.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Uh, Friday night in Kansas, Friday night in Atlanta, Saturday in Kansas city. And then, um, yeah, and then I'm at the Fox theater where I saw Funny Girl on April 27th.
Starting point is 01:04:25 So if you're in the St. Louis area, please come to that show. I want to sell it out. I cannot wait. Thank you for listening. Dopeyka and... Jimbo. Yeah, that's good. I like that.
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