The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #416 Are We Really At The Super Bowl!? Part 1: Dan Hanzus, Charles "Peanut" Tillman, Roman Harper & The Avila Brothers on Usher's Halftime Show!
Episode Date: February 15, 2024By stroke of luck, this year the Swifties world and NFL merged. Is it not the best time for iHeart to invite The Nikki Glaser Podcast to Media Row for this year's Super Bowl? Yep, that's exactly what ...happened! Nikki and Brian connect with sports figures and players in attendance. Nikki catches up with sportscaster Dan Hanzus of the Around The NFL Podcast, whom she's known for ages. They also meet former All-Pro Charles "Peanut" Tillman and former Pro Bowler Roman Harper of the NFL Players: Second Acts podcast. They round out the show with Grammy-winning hitmakers The Avila Brothers, who were gearing up to perform with Usher at the Halftime Show. *Besties, you won't need to love sports to love this episode! xoxo. Subscribe to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts to get this episode ad-free, and get exclusive bonus content: https://apple.co/nikkiglaserpodcast . Watch this episode on our Youtube Channel: The Nikki Glaser Podcast Follow the pod on Instagram for bonus content: @NikkiGlaserPod Leave us your voicemail: Click Here To Record Nikki's Tour Dates: nikkiglaser.com/tour Brian’s Animations: youtube.com/@BrianFrange More Nikki: IG More Brian: IG More producer Noa: IGSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Here I am. Welcome to the Nikki Glaser Podcast.
We are live from the big game.
That's right, the big game.
The big game. I don't know if we can say what it is.
Yes, we can, right? No?
I think I can, but you guys can't.
Okay, will you tell us what we're live from?
This is Dan Hanses from the podcast Around the NFL.
You can't say NFL. Yes, I can, because that's we're live from. This is Dan Hanses from the podcast around the NFL. You can't say NFL.
Yes, I can.
Because that's what he's from.
One of my dear friends from early on in my life, early on in my career.
We've been friends maybe almost going on 20 years.
Let's just round up to 20.
15.
15 years I've known this man.
And he is the host of Around the NFL.
He's here as our first guest today. That's right. Hopefully one of many. You're not legally cleared of Around the NFL. He's here as our first guest today.
That's right.
Hopefully at one of many.
You're not legally cleared for Around the NFL.
So in the vicinity of Football Podcast.
Dan Hanses.
What's up, Dan?
Hi.
So awesome to see you guys and Nikki.
Yeah, we said it when you were on our podcast, a little home and home.
Yeah.
Full circle moment because we do go
way back. We go so far back because
I was, Brian, to just catch you up
with how I know Dan, I was a fan
of Dan's best friend, Bob,
because Bob, I loved Best Week Ever
that's on VH1 when I was in college.
And Bob did the VH1
blog for Best Week Ever.
Big deal back then, having a blog
like that. He was one of the biggest bloggers there were.
I remember that blog.
My blog is poop he had as well.
My blog is poop was what he had.
And so he put his AIM screen name on there.
I put it on my buddy list just as like a college kid who was a fan of this writing of this
guy.
Yeah.
And he only had a picture of himself from behind.
And I was like, what does this guy look like?
So one night I was drunk though and I saw him sign on and I IM'd him and I was like,
hey, I'm a fan.
And then we became friends.
I was in Kansas.
He was in New York.
I finally went to New York to go visit.
And I met him.
And then I don't know if I met you on that trip, but then I met all of his friends.
And you were one of those friends.
And eventually Dan moved to L.A. when I was already there.
Friends with Bob and all these guys.
Bob ended up as the head writer on Not Safe, which Brian, you worked on.
Oh, is that Bob
Bob Castrone
oh
yes
that's my best friend
since 1988
oh wow
and he released
the feature film
yes
Spock of Dudes
Spock of Dudes
and
yeah
and Dan
I have a memory
did you ever play
rock band
that was like
during the rock band days
we were like obsessed
with that
it was a very
if you were 20 something
in the late aughts,
and you had the ability to purchase that and have the system,
you played it all the time.
All of the time.
Where?
Why did we stop?
It was so dorky.
I think everyone stopped when they realized how ridiculous it was.
Ultimately, that you're holding fake instruments playing a video game.
It's like, go learn real instruments, guys.
A second dawned on everyone. You're spending the amount of time that we were
spending playing that game because yeah we could have been in a real band no yeah well you could
say that about any game you could be like why are you playing call of duty get a real gun go to iraq
well the thing is people always say that because i'm i'm back into guitar hero it's come back
around oh it's back remember when we what was the thing we used to say, you know what's back?
What would we say? You know what's coming back?
Oh, yeah, yeah. We would see like
Groovy Baby.
We would always bring back old thing. It's back.
It's back. Rock band, Guitar Hero,
tempo-based
games are back. My boyfriend got me
Guitar Hero for Christmas because we just...
It was in the lobby of a hotel that we were staying at
and we had so much fun just playing one song.
And so he got it for me for Christmas.
We are legit addicted again.
It is so fun.
Oh, that's fun.
And I just don't, I can't believe it fell off.
We've gotten all of the games.
War Pigs?
War Pigs.
Oh, yeah.
That's such a good song.
I'm learning all these new songs.
Do you know what song I just learned through Guitar Hero 2008, whatever game this was,
that I never was into at the time, but it's like my favorite song right now
I'm really embarrassed. Blitzkrieg bop. No.
You can get it. It was like
I'm just going to give it to you.
Killing in the name of. Oh rage.
That song. Come on. Rules.
Yes. It's so good.
Are we able to use language on this show?
Yeah yeah. Is that the
fuck you can't do I won't do what you tell me song?
I won't do what you tell me.? I won't do what you tell me.
Because that was a great song to go off to.
Yes.
And you play guitar and you're an actual musician.
Do you get a similar rush when you would hit the chords in the video game?
A better rush in the video game.
You really do feel like you're in it.
And it will mute the sound if you miss the thing.
So you feel like you fucked up.
Yeah, it'll go, and you won't.
Humiliating.
Classic Nikki Glaser sound effect.
It really feels good, and I love it.
And I really recommend people getting back into it.
I really want it to be so big again that they start making new Taylor Swift.
New versions.
I want Taylor Swift's garage or Guitar Hero.
I was trying to be cool there, but the more i think about it we were so
into it and there was camaraderie to it like there was yes we had the whole setup uh we had the drum
kit two guitars and the mic with the mic stand it was like first of all guys nerds hide this when
other people are around it was when it would come out we would have a good time it was a party i
remember dan you famously and i have used this term for so long after it. In 2008, I want to say, I just
become friends with Amy Schumer in the past year. Amy Schumer and I share a birthday. She was in
town in LA during our birthday. And the only place I knew to have a birthday party was the house that
Dan lived in with all these guys. They lived across the street from Lindsay Lohan during her lesbian days.
Oh, those were the best days.
It was up on El Centro.
El Contento Drive.
El Contento, sorry.
It was so big. It was so nice.
I still don't know anyone with a house this nice.
Yeah, I never got it.
My house now that I live in is probably a quarter of the size of that house.
It was so nice.
You guys threw a party
for me and Amy for our conjoined
birthdays. We had so many people there. I remember
Eric Andre was there.
Eric Andre has been
to my house. I didn't get to ask
him about it when he was on the podcast.
The story was, we were having
Eric Andre on the podcast and Brian was like,
oh, I've got a great Eric Andre story. I can't wait
to have him on. Give me a little teaser, a little spoiler. What happened? He's like oh I've got a great Eric Andre story I can't wait to have him on and I go give me a little like a teaser teaser a little spoiler what happened he's like I'll just
tell you the whole thing I looked out my window one day down at the pool area Eric Andre is down
there and I go so what he goes that's it I go well that's not you're not gonna bring that up
he says well maybe there'll be some context I wanted to talk to him about it, see what his experience was. That's his perspective.
He got nothing with that.
But I will say, this party was crazy.
And the next day, I think people had to be kicked out.
There was some fighting.
There was just drunkenness.
There was puking.
There was stuff like that.
But the next day, Dan, for me, it was the first time I'd ever heard this term.
And you know what I'm going to say, right?
I actually don't, so I'm a little nervous, but excited.
Fill in the blank.
Nikki, you're friends with a lot of blank.
Shoot.
Starts with a J.
Jews.
Jabronis?
No, no, jabronis is your word, too, and not Jews.
Jabronis.
It is a creature that you would find in the Southwest,
scavenging, running about.
A chupacabra?
I could start with a J.
I don't know.
No, jackals.
Oh, jackals.
Jackals is a big term we use.
It was the perfect word.
That's a fun one.
I remember laughing so hard and being so embarrassed that I had so many jackal friends,
but I was so delighted that that was a term that you-
There were a lot of jackals there.
But I look back, I have thought about that party before because you blew up after that
and Amy was just blowing up or about to blow up too at that point.
And I was like, how many actually big time comedy people were at that party that later
became more well known?
I think it was, yeah.
It's probably a pretty, I think that was a place to be that night in Hollywood.
Those were good nights.
Now we're here at the Super Bowl.
Now all the fun's gone. Now we're left with
reality.
You're past the hump now.
If you haven't heard the hum of
a bunch of people behind us,
we're in one of these big...
This is a convention center
at Mandalay Bay
in the MGM world.
Set the scene, Brian.
This is the Super Bowl Media Day,
which happens one day before the Super Bowl every year
as part of a huge week of media events.
And nobody from the actual teams that are playing
in the Super Bowl is here today.
They're all practicing.
They were here a couple days ago, though, right?
Yeah, prior to today, they were here.
Now I feel weird.
There is some information to
clarify on that.
Please.
I'm the sports ring of the speed.
It's not quite media day, actually.
There was media night opening
in a basketball arena.
And now this is
every radio show, every TV show.
Radio Row, it's known as.
Radio Row.
Is that part of the Media Day franchise?
No, that has now been spun out into its own universe.
Oh, okay.
And they do it at the basketball arena.
But this is where everyone comes for the week and all the guests funnel through here.
And you have to do interviews.
You guys might be doing some today.
We are.
It's like before you actually can have a human conversation.
It's like, so why do you like bounty towels so much and then they they go into a you know 20 minute really a prepared
statement yeah there is a lot of bounty towels here yes there were i was offered some and uh
walking by and someone just was like uh they go do you want this and it was like is that a napkin
and it was a bounty napkin but they go no it's chicken wings and i go i'm vegan they go we have
celery you haven't lived
until like kirk cousins tells you i can't throw a party uh with chicken wings unless i have my
bounty paper towels oh my god all right kirk yeah i didn't know that about him well yeah i went on
a media tour i was doing i did a spot for some kind of gum tr Trident, Dentine or something way back when
and just did a series of online commercials.
And then they had me do like a media day to go talk about those commercials.
And I didn't know what it would really be.
But one of those interviews ended up being in the Taylor Swift documentary
because I was doing-
Oh, God.
That's what that was?
That was for the gum?
It was for Dentine Ice.
Are you fucking kidding me?
So I sat down with this guy
and he's like
tell us about
what do you think about Taylor Swift
it was a buzzfeed
thing
oh my god
a one off thing
and I just mouthed off
and then that ended up being
in her documentary
oh that fucking
calamity
was because of dentine ice
and I had really bad
pit stains during it
and I thought it was like
such a nothing interview
so I was just kind of making fun
I was like you guys
I am pit stained out
so I did the whole interview
like bent over like this because I called it out initially and I was like this is so bad so it was like such a nothing interview. So I was just kind of making fun. I was like, you guys, I am pit stained out. So I did the whole interview like bent over like this because I called it out initially.
And I was like, this is so bad.
So I was like doing the interview literally like this.
So I'm like, she just has too many model friends.
She's too skinny.
Like I was just, so the clip, I just look ridiculous as I should, because I shouldn't
have done that.
But this is a lesson, Dan, I don't know if you are like a little bit tight lipped about
maybe your opinions about some things when it comes to like a TV show you are like a little bit tight-lipped about maybe your opinions
about some things when it comes to like a tv show you watch or a movie you watch but i just saw a
clip of tina fey this morning talking to less culture reaches which is a podcast on the i heart
uh network the big money players which were a part of they were she was talking to them about
how you got you can't have opinions about things anymore if you want to be one of those if you
want to be a tastemaker you can't go off about salt burn because you might work with someone
who made salt burn and then io from uh i don't know her last name she was in the bear she did
snl and mouthed off about j-lo did you see that she talked about jail she is now eating crow
because she said those things and i was just like i have so many things to haunt me in the future if I work with impressive people.
Because I do have opinions about things.
And so you just have to get like, you have to just not talk anymore about what you really feel.
No, what you do, you say whatever you want.
Well, yeah, I guess you're right.
If you might work with them in the future.
But like you could work with anyone in the future.
You could host SNL with anyone.
Yeah.
But what if you say something negatively about a football player?
We had a memorable thing for us when the podcast was getting going.
We were starting to get an overseas following.
We were like, oh, we can actually maybe go to London and have a trip
and maybe do a live show.
We were so excited about it.
Yeah.
And then we had a wretched boss.
He was just mean.al a very the the
term in the dictionary would be right next to him this person anyway so we did uh we did kind of
like a bit on the show making fun of um jj watt's new clothing wine oh no that's right i even dipped
my voice because like i hope he doesn't hear it i don't want to get in trouble again you're like
inadvertently cracked just then yeah and his manager heard it and like put it up the
flagpole in nfl and this boss said you know what you're not going to london now and then had someone
from the desk um do a transcription of the podcast and basically read it out to us like we were little
boys now it's not exactly what you're saying but that's no in general especially when oh yeah what
you do with podcasts like you're just speaking like off the cuff and you kind of end up parking yourself
in dangerous cul-de-sacs yeah people will hear it like there's something and that's what i think the
joy it the the appeal is of a podcast is it feels so personal it feels like you're kind of in the
room with people fly on the wall listening in on the conversation players club yeah we have like
one podcast that's like has a paywall behind it,
and that's where we really talk some shit.
Oh, yeah.
But it's an awesome podcast.
And nobody can ever put that on the surface.
No, they could never.
It's behind a paywall, yeah.
I don't think that J.J. Watt's agent could afford the $5 a month
to find that information.
But, yeah.
But then if you just like everything, it's so boring.
But then you're boring.
It's a tough spot.
You've got to pick a few things.
Yeah.
You've got to pick some things that you don't like.
But I'm also willing to admit that I can change my opinion about things very quickly.
Like Travis Kelsey, I had a total turnaround.
I was really annoyed with when he made the friendship bracelet and got all those headlines about making the friendship bracelet.
Well, you thought it was a grab.
I thought it was a...
A fame grab or something.
Yeah, because I didn't know who he was.
I didn't know his intent,
and I didn't know he actually wanted to date her
and was a fan and was going to the show as a fan.
And then I did a whole 180
because not only did I think that was so tacky at first
and so lame and like,
who do you think you are
that she would even meet you after a show?
She doesn't meet anyone.
She has to preserve her voice.
She's doing three sold-out shows
where she does three and a half hours of singing constantly.
She's not on the sidelines ever.
She's the whole thing, and you are like,
she didn't get to meet me afterwards.
That's not fair.
I was like, everything about this, I hate.
Like, why do you think she would ever meet you?
And then she ends up dating him,
and I remember the rumors, and I was like, no,
because I've been so vocal about how annoying that was
but then I totally turned around
because he
pursued her hard and you know like
that is actually the cool thing about it
is that he had the confidence and
the like a white man
in the 50s yeah he just went
after it didn't let up like Don Draper
courting the substitute teacher
and like it was just, he was gonna make
it happen. He was so driven by it. Yes.
And he, I just thought it was
cute and he wasn't scared to look stupid.
I thought at first it was like
I want to look cool, but the truth was
he was not scared to look stupid and
that's such an attractive thing and really only
something that someone who's so successful
like that can do. I think there was a strategy
there too. He kind too. Because this is
a guy that's his whole life has been
green lights. And he deserves it.
He's a charismatic, good-looking guy.
Star athlete. He had some problems in
high school. He did. He did. What?
Well, I know in college
at Cincinnati, I know he had some issues. He almost got
cut from the team. And then his brother
came and saved him. Whoa.
But I think the
Aw Shucks thing was a new
one in his playbook.
Because Taylor was bigger and
one thing I want to say,
because I like the pairing too. And I think it's
authentic and I hope they go the distance.
But, you ever think about the
old tweets still?
The Travis tweets?
Can we talk about the tweets just a little bit?
Because we've swept them
under the rug now.
We really forgot about them
and sometimes they get
referenced like squirrel.
The way he's spelled squirrel
gets referenced a lot.
She's a very smart,
like sophisticated woman.
He's spelled squirrel wrong?
She's a poet.
You know, like she doesn't
fuck around.
She doesn't mince words.
She doesn't, yes.
Check it out.
His tweets are,
well, I just think back they were 10 years ago and he was just probably getting a little bit of a following
he was excited about it and it was a different time where we would we would be like hey i'm
about to eat a sandwich like we would just tell people that kind of stuff but now we look back
and we go that's so mundane why would you tell people now you gotta video it you can't just
write it it's a wild spelling though, squirrel.
Just wild.
Yeah, it was, I think there's a W in it.
S-Q-R-O.
There was like a Z.
He really couldn't figure it out.
Yeah, it was really.
It wasn't dropping an R.
It's kind of cute.
It was a little bit more.
Oh, wow.
But yeah, and some of those,
yeah, I think he made fun of some people in those,
but I don't think there was a single person
who didn't make a fat joke on Twitter back 10 years ago.
I'm saying it's not a deal breaker for me, but I do think about it sometimes.
How could you not? How could you not? And how could she not?
But Travis Kelsey is not going out there trying to say that he's some kind
of academic genius. It's like he's a football player. You can't spell
squirrel. That's fine.
He got asked like,
what's your favorite song of hers?
And like, okay,
so you don't know,
you probably don't know her discography,
but if you were dating Taylor Swift.
Okay, so if you were answering that question
about someone who everyone knows
is your girlfriend,
what would you say?
Like what is the kind of song you would pick
to say that answer?
I would go with like a romantic deeper cut, right you go with a deeper cut i'd pick one that's not connected to
one of her past loves you'd have to be strategic about it yes he went with anti-hero which i think
is a little surfacy it might be his favorite song so maybe it just might be the truth but it's a
little lazy it's like when i i was working with the Backstreet Boys and I am so sad
about this moment. It was two Decembers ago
but then Nick Carter got in some trouble and they
shelved the Christmas special. Oh, bummer.
There was a resurfacing of
some kind of incident that happened with him
20 years prior and they go, we can't
squirrel wrong. Some jackal behavior.
Yeah, real jackally.
And so they shelved it but I was
they asked me, we were doing like a just a we
were improvving this scene and they were like and i was pretending to be a huge fan but i'm not or
whatever and they go what's your favorite song and i really wanted to like think of a good one but i
i just was like backstreet spec
show me the meaning of being lonely like it's so embarrassing to say the thing that everyone knows.
And I thought he could have come up with a better one than that.
But maybe that really is his favorite song, Antihero.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But what I do know is that Brian and I belong here today.
I was thinking as I have trouble feeling like why I keep saying why am I here?
Because I just learned about football this year
and I've been kind of scared of it beforehand
and I feel out of place.
And I still do.
But Brian reminded me
that we have a podcast where he is a huge football fan
and I'm the biggest Swifty
and this is really
the culmination of those two things.
We've been talking about football all year.
The fact that Chiefs are in the Super Bowl.
That's pretty good. It did work out. I don't know why I'm here. But it been talking about football all year. The fact that Chiefs are in the Super Bowl. That's pretty good.
So it did work out.
Yeah.
I don't know why I'm here,
but it makes sense that you're here.
No, no.
I'm so glad you're here.
You need to be here for my spine.
Right.
To help you, Nikki,
this will make you feel better.
Please.
Zaire Franklin is a great deep cut jersey to wear.
That's right.
That's what he's wearing right now.
Yeah.
So that shows,
that gives you legitimacy. It's like, oh, if you're the guy in the Franklin jersey. That's right. That's what he's wearing right now. Yeah, so that shows that gives you legitimacy. It's like, oh,
if you're the guy in the Franklin jersey.
That's right. If Zyre Franklin didn't
get injured for one game this year, he would have been the
leading tackler in the NFL. Okay.
Dan, do you want to respond to that? I'm saying
that's great. He could have went with
an Andrew Luck old jersey
or Peyton Manning or Marvin
Harrison, but going deep cut of a linebacker
that shows that you're with somebody that knows ball.
So everybody, because I get imposter syndrome here too, because it's basically everybody
in my industry that knows more than me about football is all here at the same time.
Yeah.
So just like, all right, whatever.
Now, how do they know more than you about football?
Like just in terms of like.
Such a, well, we were talking about it on another show.
He's only around the NFL.
They're in the NFL.
Right.
In the vicinity of football.
Right.
Sorry.
But no, the sport is so nuanced that even people like me who follow it, unless you really
have an eye for it and you're like a tape dog and really dig into the minutia of it,
there's a little gatekeeper nature to it.
And I'm not one of those people.
I like the game for the storylines, and I just drive the conversation.
And I love football, and I can't wait for Sunday.
But there's different levels to knowing the game,
which is why how intimidating it could be for someone from the outside
to try to learn the game.
I guess there's so much.
It's so advanced.
It's like learning Mandarin.
I really don't.
And you look around, you go, how
many, how can so many people understand this?
It really confounds me, but it's nice to hear that
there's different tiers and that you also feel intimidated.
I think it's exactly like it is to be
a Swifty, because there are some Swifties that are very
familiar with her work, and they go, I don't want to go to Eros because
it's, I don't know every word to that song. I don't
know all the, I didn't memorize the
Cruel Summer Bridge. I don't belong, but it's like, no,
we can all get along. Yeah. Yeah.
The NFL wants more fans, so
they're happy that anybody. I think they're going to be okay.
I think they're going to be okay. Dan Hanses, thank you
so much for being here with us to start out this day.
Thank you. It really feels good.
Very fun. To have a friend here. Happy to be here. And just to show
my Swift bonafides. Yeah.
Delicate is my favorite Taylor Swift song.
That's mine! No, get out of here.
It's top five.
It's one of the best ever.
Have you seen the music video?
Yeah.
Oh, I love the video.
It's incredible.
One of her best videos ever.
I love it.
Okay, well, this is a great way to end this segment.
Thank you so much, Dan Hanses, from around the NFL.
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All right, we're back. It's the Nikki Glaser Podcast.
We're here live from the Super Bowl a couple days before it,
and we have two special guests.
I'm sure they have no idea what they're on right now.
They're just making the rounds, but I'm so happy to have you.
They're huge fans of the Nikki Glaser podcast.
They listen every week.
They've been saying that.
They are the co-hosts of the Second Acts podcast on the NFL Podcast Network.
It is Charles Peanut Tillman and Roman Harper.
Thank you so much for being here,
you guys. We like to clap
for people. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. I didn't clap for you.
It's all good. Because words matter.
They really do. Yeah, that's my thing.
Handwords matter. You know what? Let me just
go ahead and say it because, Nikki, I'm a big fan
of yours. I watch you all the time on YouTube.
I think you're hilarious. Thank you. You talk about
I said it. Naughty hilarious. You talk about naughty things.
And you own it.
I love it.
I think it's a brain disorder
that I'm able to do that.
Because people are shocked
by the things I say
and I don't know why it doesn't register me
that it's shocking sometimes.
But I really appreciate that.
Thank you so much.
I'm looking at you in real life and I'm like, she ain't really do all that.
The thing is, I do. That's the thing people don't.
I'm looking at me like, she ain't do all that.
I'm not like very promiscuous, but because I'm not outside of a relationship and when
I'm not drinking and I haven't drank for 11 years, but yeah, I've got some history of
that stuff. And I just, when I have done it, the naughty stuff,
I'm paying attention so that I can talk about it as if,
and then the way I talk about it,
it could be one time I've done it,
but in the way that I talk about it,
it sounds like, oh, she must do this all the time.
But I'm just paying attention during that one time.
So I could have really only had sex one time
and made four specials about that.
Give me an episode I need to listen to.
Yeah.
Tell me, tell me.
I got you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do roasts and then I do, I have comedy special to listen to. Yeah. Tell me. I got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I do roasts, and then I have comedy specials.
Okay.
I want to hear the dirt.
I got you.
Episode two, season three.
Okay, yeah.
You need the time stamp?
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
How are you guys doing?
How's this day for you?
So far, we've been pretty chilling right now.
Yeah?
Yesterday was, they, yeah,
they got us good yesterday.
We must have did about eight or nine podcasts.
Oh, Jesus.
We were cracking them things out
like a conveyor belt back in the day.
Yeah.
How long you guys been doing second act for?
This is our second season.
Second season.
This is my third season.
It's his second season.
Yeah.
Yeah, it wasn't that good that first year, so they needed me.
And so I've completely upgraded him, and we're good now.
And are you his friends from before the podcast?
No.
You played together?
I literally just met him this year.
Wait, weren't you guys teammates on the Panthers?
Yeah.
You were teammates on the Panthers.
You were teammates on the Panthers.
I made him better when I went to that team because we went to a Super Bowl that year when I got there.
I upgraded him.
That is true.
I would say this, though.
It's real funny because Peanut and I first met at this Christian conference way back in the day.
What was it called?
PAO.
PAO.
And he thought I was way older.
And he still thinks that.
Gee, I wonder why.
Clearly, I'm not.
I mean, just look at us.
It is a good look.
You dress like someone's grandfather right now.
You got a turtleneck on, yeah.
You are wearing a turtleneck.
It is cold in here, though.
It's cold in Vegas this weekend.
Yes, it is very cold.
But you have gray hair.
Yeah, and I've had it since I was young.
I just heard that.
Someone told me to ask you about it.
And I was like, does he really want to talk about that?
But I want to talk about it.
When did you get gray hair?
So I got my first gray hair when I was going into the eighth grade my barber told me cow and he was you know i was
always told if you cut it out stress at eighth grade you know like two of them grow social
studies really good and so then as i got older and i played more ball i got you know got to the
league everybody's like you're ever gonna dye your hair i'm like i can't dye it because the people
that know me would feel like man oh you didn't got a parent changed on them how much money did
i try to give you?
Yeah.
I used to try to pay him thousands of dollars to dye his hair.
And he was like, I can't.
I just can't do it.
Can't do it.
I was like, I will give you $5,000 right now.
I would love to have some.
For Halloween.
For Halloween, I'll give you five G's right now, Roman, to dye your hair black.
Yeah.
Beijing, spray paint.
And it wasn't even long. He's like, do it. Do it for like two or three days. I'm like, no. He was like, I'll give you five Gs right now, Roman, to dye your hair black. Yeah. Beijing, spray paint. And he wasn't even long.
He's like, do it.
Do it for like two or three days.
I'm like, no.
He was like, I can't do it.
I can't do it.
It's so refreshing because it's just too much upkeep.
And you are just who you are.
And you've never had shame about it.
And it makes you more confident.
To be a guy that has gray hair and has no problem with it and isn't trying to deny it
is like the coolest look you can have.
It is.
You blend in with your coat.
I appreciate that, dog.
Thanks, dog.
It's so nice.
Gray and blue, gray and blue.
Is it running your family
to have gray hair that young?
You know,
in all honesty,
yes and no,
but like my mom
dyes her hair,
but I think she's like all gray.
I'm sorry, mom.
She don't count.
She don't count.
She don't count.
Moms don't count.
Moms don't count.
Dummy, what you doing?
And then my dad, too. He's got gray. But like they're older. Moms don't count. Dummy, what you doing? And then my dad, too.
He's got great.
But, like, they're older, so they're supposed to.
But I got it way earlier than everybody else in my family.
It's cool.
He was just a stressful kid.
I have no idea.
That's what it is.
Now, did you guys become friends on the team?
And, like, you can't be friends with everyone on your team.
Did you guys gravitate towards each other?
And, like, was there a moment where you're like, oh, this is going to be my dude?
Well, we had met at PAO. Oh, that's met it we met at this christian conference you met at pao
how old were you guys then pal uh i was probably 27 i was probably 39 yeah i got it you guys are
already in the league this is already in the league this is like a kid's thing yeah yeah so
we we hang out kick it whatever yeah but we weren't like cool like that yeah yeah
so then fast forward 2015 i'm there i'm like oh yeah rome's there and then we just kind of we were
the two oldest dbs in the room sure we were two ogs so i think complete ogs i think for that that
was why we i think bonded the most we were the two oldest guys in the room and then peanuts the guy
in the room and i he's such a professional now,
but in a meeting room session, like, he's the worst.
Because he, like, if something crosses his mind
or somebody does something weird, he just blurts stuff out.
I'm the male version of you.
Yeah, that's great.
So he, like, it's just bad.
Like, Coach is saying something really serious, just, like, positive,
and, like, all this motivational stuff, and Peanut's, like,
just something, like, just random, out of left field, just totally. It was just, like, all the time. I'm like, Peanut's like, just something like, just random, out of left field.
Just totally.
It was just like all the time.
I'm like, Peanut, like.
Now, is this under your breath
that you're saying these things?
No, I say it out loud.
Very loud.
Do you get in trouble?
No, I don't get in trouble.
No, I don't.
And everyone.
They appreciate that.
They appreciate it.
And they laugh.
They do.
They just like.
He brought a fake alligator
and like scared all the coaches one time.
He like put it in Ron Rivera's.
Prankster?
Big time.
Yes.
Big time.
Are these pranks that you're planning months in advance, weeks in advance,
or are you someone that's just like, oh, it'd be funny to shove this guy right now?
A little bit of both.
Into this bush or whatever.
A little bit of both.
What's a recent one that you're kind of proud of?
Draft.
I brought Hank with me.
Hank is my rattlesnake, And I brought him with Draft.
I have a video.
I'll show y'all.
Wait, you can have a pet rattlesnake?
Yeah, I got.
It's not real.
I had it in my room at Draft.
We was in Kansas City.
Rome walks in the room.
I got my camera all strategically set up.
And he opens the door and he was like,
Peanut. camera all strategically set up and he opens the door and he was like peanut because he like i know you i know you in here oh my god oh my god yeah he but i ended up he's like
oh do you go because the snake was like right there in the kind of part the rest of your hair
turned great being so scared do people people have like fear around you
because they know that you can bring that kind of stuff?
Like, have you ever scarred someone?
Yes, I have scarred someone.
Biz, I apologize if I tell this story.
My neighbor back in like 06,
she was getting ready to get in her,
she started her car.
And it was like, I don't know,
negative 10 out in January
when we were going to Super Bowl.
Perfect time to fuck with someone.
Yeah.
It's like 5 a.m.
She's going to the city.
I'm walking my dog.
You put like 50 snakes in her car?
No, no.
I got in the backseat of her car.
Oh, my God.
I got in the backseat of her car,
and then she got in the car,
and I jumped out of the backseat and was like,
ah!
She was shaking.
Literally, like she had a seizure or something.
Like she was shaking, shaking.
She has PTSD.
Yeah, all day.
And I didn't learn my lesson.
I kept it going.
So the next day, she got smart.
She got smart.
Hold on, hold on.
You did it again?
Oh, so check it.
Poor girl.
Poor lady.
So she was like 22.
She had good lungs.
She was good.
She had a good heart.
She could take it.
She had a good heart. She could take it. She had a good heart.
So the next day, she was like, screw it.
I'm just going to get in my car cold.
She didn't care.
She takes her key, sticks it in the door, and I ran up behind her.
I put my hand over her mouth, and I said, give me your money.
Oh, my God.
She could have killed you.
No, she didn't. She did. Oh, my God. She could have killed you. No, she didn't.
She did.
She passed out.
Wow.
She was like, oh,
I don't even think she smoked. She smoked a cigarette after that day. Oh my God.
She's a chain smoker now.
She's a chain smoker.
This is bad.
Now she's going to get stood up for real.
Someone's going to pull up on her and she's going to be like, is it Tillman again?
Yeah, she's going to go, oh, you again.
Oh, peanut.
Be afraid.
Be very afraid.
Have you ever gotten that?
Yes, I have.
And he almost got punched when he got me.
Oh, yeah.
You can scare me, but just don't touch me when you scare me because I'm like, whoa, okay.
It's a prank.
You got me.
Ha ha, hee-hee.
Well, what is the peanut punch?
We've been told about that.
The peanut punch is just a – how would you describe it, Rome?
It's a maneuver that Peanut kind of perfected as playing football where guys, when they're taught to hold the ball high and tight,
Peanut learned a way to just like – even though I'm trying to tackle the ball,
I just punch the
ball and like most people
you talk to like strip at it or rip
at it or come from different ways Peanut
just punched it like right down and it just
goes straight down yeah and people use
this oh my god
people reference it every week
in football all over it was him
if you watch football any weekend
of the year, Peanut Tillman
will be referenced at some point.
And it's really cool. And look,
I didn't realize it until he became
my teammate. And he's great with his hands.
He's always doing different hand combat,
different things. Really good with getting off blocks
and using his hands. And so our DB
coach is like, look, I've been around Peanut.
You guys just got to keep running to the ball. He's just going to punch the ball out.
We never know when it's going to happen.
These guys are always trying to protect it, but he's
just really good. Just whenever he's
around, just run. Wow. And it never
felt, not only that, but it's contagious.
So he starts doing it, then everybody else
just starts trying it.
Like, oh, it's this opportunity.
Paul's like, oh, this is a chance you could just
punch out the ball. And so everybody practices
and the next you know. But not everyone's as good at it. No, he's mastered it. He's way better than everybody else. Oh my God, this is a chance you could just punch out the ball. And so everybody practices, and the next you know.
But not everyone's as good at it.
No, he's mastered it. He's way better than everybody else.
Oh, my God.
What an accomplishment.
I mean, it's pretty cool to invent.
You basically invented a new move in the NFL that's now coined after you.
Yeah.
That's pretty amazing.
I mean, how many people have that?
I'm so impressed.
I wouldn't know that.
I mean, the brotherly shove, which is basically Jason Kelsey's move.
It's not named after him, though.
No. But you got the peanut punch
named after you. Completely named after him.
And it's not even great examples of peanut punches,
but people just say anytime the ball comes out,
oh, it's just peanut punch. I can't wait
to hear that and know
and say I've met the person
who created that.
So great to meet you guys.
Thank you so much for being on the podcast.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
I like your shirt.
Thank you so much.
Is this Dallas Clark?
Who are you guys taking for the game?
Who are you guys picking?
I'm Swifty, so.
I want my girl to be happy.
Can I just say this?
I think Travis Kelsey is the best she's going to ever do.
I think she should just go ahead.
Just get it over with.
Agreed.
Have a baby. Just move on. I think it's over. ahead and just get it over with. Agreed. Have a baby.
Just move on.
I think it's over.
I think so, too.
I tell people this, too.
Who's better?
I agree.
She ain't going to find better.
I don't think she's going to find better.
I don't think so, either.
6'5", swaggy brother.
She did it.
Yeah, yeah.
And a nice guy.
Absolutely.
He can dance.
I think she can wrap it up, too.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
She ain't dating nobody like that.
I love that.
You're calling it exactly as I am.
All right.
Thank you guys so much for being here. Check out their podcast. It's called The Second Axe Podcast. You guys't dating nobody like that. I love that. You're calling it exactly as I am. All right. Thank you guys so much for being here.
Check out their podcast.
It's called The Second Acts Podcast.
You guys are hilarious and so fun.
Thank you so much for doing it.
Appreciate it.
We're not better than you, though.
Thank you.
We'll be right back.
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All right, we're back live from the Super Bowl, Nikki Glaser podcast, and we have with
us, I'm so excited because I get really intimidated by sports players and these guys
they might play sports recreationally
Who plays streetball?
I'm intimidated in a different way but one that I'm a little bit
knowledgeable about or I'd like to think I am
we have the Avila brothers with us who
are, you're performing
in the halftime show with Usher?
Yes, we're performing and we also have
produced the halftime show
with Jay-Z too as, as well, right?
Isn't he producing it?
The whole crew.
Yeah, yeah, the whole crew.
Yes, okay, so he's producing it in a…
Creative aspect.
He's been on one Zoom call in the background.
His name's on it.
That's so cool.
So just to give us a little background about you guys,
because I'm sorry I wasn't really familiar until now,
but you're big deals.
Tell us how you got started, how you got...
I don't know what House Will Fair said, but we're sort of a...
Sort of a...
Yeah, you are.
So we're songwriters and producers, and we've been working with Usher for about 20 years now.
Oh, my God.
We were introduced to Usher through Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, who were our...
We call them our musical godfathers.
And, you know, we've had a great run here in Vegas.
We did the Caesars Palace residency.
We then moved over to Park MGM.
And I think that's kind of been the tail of the tape of how we have ended up here at Super Bowl.
And so Super Bowl, four months into the process.
Four months ago is when you found out you were doing it or just that's when you decided to start?
When the wheels started turning, you know, pencil paper set list songs and all that and so it's been intense but
uh you know we're beyond grateful and ecstatic to be here and oh my god shout out to that chief
shirt you're rocking we are diehard chiefs why are you chiefs fans so we're cali boys okay uh
we were my father was a huge Montana fan.
And so when Montana left the 49ers and went to the Chiefs, we followed him.
Yeah. And so it's like, it's the 49ers and Chiefs.
It's like, you know, it's like, we don't, we don't, we don't hate on the Niners, but
like we're Chiefs fans.
And we're not locker hoppers.
So we, we just, we, we're not Chiefs fans.
Yeah.
Oh man.
In the dumps.
Are you guys going to be able to enjoy the show, though?
Because you, or after the halftime show, is it going to be like a release
and then you can enjoy the game?
We're going to do the best we can.
You know, we got TVs and set up in our area.
But, you know, we thought, you know, maybe we can sneak away
and get in there, you know, get close to a seat or something.
But I think we're going to be so focused on halftime.
How's it looking?
Oh, man.
Are you so excited?
We're coming to whoops mass.
I can't wait.
It's amazing.
And, you know, I was watching, you know, ESPN earlier and, you know,
all the first take and all that stuff.
And it's like the Chiefs are the underdogs.
And it's like, come on, guys.
Like they've been there a gazillion times.
And you've seen how they've been able to pivot from the postseason
versus where they're at now in the playoffs and now Super Bowl.
It's like, man.
The fact that they're dogs is crazy.
I mean, how could you bet against Mahomes in any circumstance?
He just always wins with ease.
He's a winner.
And, you know, I think the crazy thing for us is like last year we were
trying to figure out if we were going to go to the to phoenix and watch the super bowl so i did one
of those like kind of one foot in one foot out and little john was performing at gronkowski's um
casino pool party oh and just to think we were there last, and now we're going to be on stage and producing the show and being in it.
And we got our parents coming.
Our kids are coming.
And I love your shirt because my daughter is a massive Taylor Swift fan.
So she's a Swifty for sure.
She knows where she was born, all the songs, her mom's name, all those YouTube trivias.
She's got it down.
Oh, that's cool.
So her birthday in december was like a
swifty party so i'm glad she's gonna be here my son she's gonna get to be here for oh yeah so i
mean so excited i attribute like our journey in music and how powerful music and how great music
has been to us um to where we're at now and it's that's that part of it is really truly exciting
like walking around here and you know we were introduced to you guys it's like we're iHeart it's like oh i i think i've
heard of you guys and to meet you guys it's like it's a tribute to how powerful music is and that's
just the real the realness of being on the ground and being here and a part of the experience and
you know it's not the Grammys we love the the Grammys. It represents music at a high level,
but there's nothing like the Super Bowl
and the halftime show.
That's the biggest show on earth.
As Mexican-Americans, we'll be like,
yeah, we're producing it and we're there.
It's a testament to how powerful your dreams can take you
and how powerful hard work is
and where your gift can make room for you.
Where are you guys standing right now, though?
Okay, we're two days out.
It's Friday.
The game is Sunday. The show is Sunday.
Do you have more rehearsal time?
Are you... Is it locked in place, what you're doing? I actually know
the editor who edited my special is
editing the Super Bowl halftime show. The director of
the Super Bowl halftime show, Hamish
Hamilton was my director. I'm friends with him.
But he was telling me, you know,
the rehearsals... This has been going for four months
to prepare for this.
It's the biggest show.
Is there still tweaks to be made at this point?
Or is it lasted?
Before it has even answers, I stopped looking at my phone and I just asked him out, what
are we doing today?
Because it's been crazy.
So many changes.
Last minute changes.
I'm just going to say, it's not even about that. It's at the end of the day, as creatives, it's been crazy. So many changes, last minute changes. I'm just going to say, it's not even about that.
It's at the end of the day, as creatives, it's perfection.
It's the process of perfection.
When we started this thing, we had two targets we wanted to hit,
and that's Prince and Michael Jackson.
That's where we want to be,
and we want to make sure we land in between those two names.
How are you going to get it to rain inside i know so so we we had a conversation with god but the stadium's closed
yeah um that's yeah so that's the bar for us do you feel competitive with other halftime shows
yes you got it i mean this is right you know and and i always tell people like usher is a musical
athlete yeah you know the the the process of that he's taken throughout the years to maintain his knees and his movement and his flexibility and his voice.
His voice.
You know, he's a true student of the craft.
And I think when you're around somebody like that, that represents greatness, it spills over into other departments.
And I think that's what also fuels our inspiration is by looking at how much of a student he is of music and the greats that he constantly studies.
And so, yeah, it's like, yo, it's balls to the wall.
It's all or nothing.
Is he someone that is, is he very calm within all of this?
Because he's just been doing it for so long.
Is this something, it obviously matters enormously to him,
but is it something that he's just like, yeah, this is, I belong.
He's a racquetball in a racquetball room.
That thing, that ball is just like pinging.
Really?
Yeah, everywhere.
You know, there's so many parts and elements of him as a creator
that he just, he just, he don't sleep.
It's all in his DNA. He's just built he's just built for it i like what rihanna said i saw a really dope clip of
rihanna when they're asking her about you know usher and the superboy and and to her point it's
it's really what he was built for yeah he was built for that stage that's what it feels like
yeah this is his moment that's been a long time coming yes and i think it's going to be
there's just so many usher songs that you know you know,
but you don't remember that you know until you hear them.
I think it's going to be one of those moments where culturally,
we're just like,
people that are like,
what's this going to be?
They know every freaking song.
He's going to blow us away with dancing.
He's going to look so timeless,
so youthful.
You mentioned all the names.
But also like youthful,
but with the experience behind it too.
I think it's just going to,
I think it's going to be such a perfect he's just the perfect person to do it
I know he's gonna kill it
with your guys' help
and I think too you know
what he's gonna represent is something that
we don't see a lot of anymore in entertainment
right somebody that we know is gonna
sing in key
dance his ass off
and the true element of entertainment.
He represents that.
That's his claw.
And so when you get to put that on a microscope,
which is the Super Bowl stage,
I think it's going to inspire even new fans.
Yeah, and that's our goal, right?
That is it.
Absolutely.
We talked about it.
Not everybody that's watching the Super Bowl is an Usher fan,
and our goal was to
to give the
viewers an experience that allows them to
embrace him in a way that he's never been
embraced and to create new fans.
Absolutely. I want to look at his
followers before and after because there's going to be
a gigantic number because people who
don't know are going to find out
and people who are just young and have never
known, it's going to be awesome. Yeah, are just young and have never known yeah are it's
gonna be awesome yeah i don't even think about that like that's a great defining kind of like
bar just to like see you know where he's at now i'm gonna actually do that i think it's a good
thing to look at before and after because people are going to lose their minds about it i just know
it's going to wake some people up that haven't either been sleeping on him for a decade or so
since you know he was culturally everywhere and then the new generation of people who aren't too young to have known
when he was really peaking.
He's going to peak again.
It's so exciting.
Yeah, it's a great moment for him, for sure.
Well, I'm so excited for you guys.
Thank you.
What's your self-care journey up until Sunday?
Are you going to do anything?
Just focus.
Focus.
Focus and um one
enjoy the process you know because sometimes as creatives you get so in the weeds on it that
you wake up the next day after it's done it's like oh man i didn't get to really absorb it
you know yeah you know i'm like the dude that's like god man put your phone down and and i'm now
i'm like yeah I'm everywhere.
Like, just being here, the energy here.
I mean, you guys, like, it's like.
It's cool.
But I literally went to bed about 4 o'clock in the morning.
We had an incredible event just for the dancers and the whole production staff.
And then it's like, okay, we got to hit this.
And just to be here, it's like, I'm glad I haven't had my first meal yet.
I'm like, this is it.
I'm taking it.
It sounds like you guys are doing a really good job of appreciating the moment.
I'll be thinking about you guys tomorrow and celebrating for you when it's finally over
because I know that relief of something you've worked so hard and when it's finally done,
like, you're going to have the best second half of the game tomorrow.
The one thing about the Super Bowl halftime shows, right,
you can go back to YouTube and always look at it and view it over and over again.
It's going to be a legacy.
Always. I can't wait.
Congratulations. Thank you so much for stopping by.
What an honor to meet you.
You guys were incredibly fun.
Thank you for taking the time.
And go KC, right?
We'll be right back after this.
Final thought.
Pretty surreal.
Are you losing your mind?
You keep looking around. I keep looking around and going, that's blah, blah, blah. I don. Pretty surreal, yeah. Are you losing your mind? You keep looking around and saying, that's...
Well, there's people.
I keep looking around going, that's blah, blah, blah.
And you go, I don't know who that is.
Yeah.
Roger Askew.
And I go, I don't know who that is.
But yeah, it's exciting.
Yeah, Benedict Falafelon.
Yeah.
Steve Smith is doing interviews behind us.
Steve Smith's one of the greatest wide receivers in NFL history.
He's also a personality, a halftime host guy.
Yes, I know him from that
thing that he does. He was interviewing Bijan Robinson
who was the number one running
back draft pick in last year's draft
on the Atlanta Falcons.
He also has his own brand
of mustard, a Dijon from Bijan.
No way. It would have been fun to talk to him about that.
Maybe we'll get him on. Yeah, we have one more
show to do. Yeah, we have one more show to do still.
But yeah, it's pretty well.
And then Allie has her fantasy football trophy.
Brian's wife is here.
My wife is here with us.
And she won for the first time in 10 years.
It's in over 10 years.
Over 10 years.
Her family has a fantasy football league, and she won, and she has a trophy that she won.
That's right.
When you win, you get to have the trophy for the year, like the Stanley Cup.
It's passed around.
I've won twice.
I've only been in her league. Yeah, I came. The first year I joined it, I won. You're good. It's passed around. I've won twice. I've only been in her league.
The first year I joined it, I won.
You're good. Joined the family,
won the league in the first year, and then won again
two years later. But this year, it was
terrible. But we have this trophy
and they're all from Chicago and they're Chicago
Bears fans. And so her brother
who is the commissioner of the league has been going around getting
signatures of Chicago athletes. Commissioner of the
league? That's a thing in fantasy football.
The person who runs the league is called the commissioner.
I see why people do it.
You get to be called commissioner at some point.
That's an amazing title to have.
Yeah.
My microphone is going.
Need some Viagra.
One of the Avila brothers.
Unscrewed it?
Unscrewed it or something.
Yeah.
Anyway, so he's going around getting signatures from people.
He's gotten Scotty Pippen. He's gotten Matt Forte. He signatures from people. He's gotten Scotty Pippin.
He's gotten Matt Forte.
He was a bear.
He's gotten Brian Urlacher
who's a famous bear.
And so now,
Allie was like,
I'm going to the Super Bowl.
I bet you I can get
some signatures of bears.
And she also just happened
to win the league this year.
So she has the trophy.
She had the trophy sent to her
and it was $250 to ship.
She had to get it shipped
overnight in order to get it here
in time for the Super Bowl.
And she carried it in and I go, what's that? And she was like so embarrassed
and I was like, no, that's so cool. And then she
got it signed by Peanut? She got
it signed by Peanut Tillman, who is a
legendary Chicago Bears defensive player.
Amazing. And then she just got it signed
by DJ Moore, who's the number one wide receiver
on the Bears right now. I'm so happy for her.
She's losing her mind. She keeps saying, why
am I here? I can't believe I'm here.
And I'm like,
no, this makes sense
that you're here more than,
you should be here more than anyone.
Because she's a fan.
Yes.
Yeah.
She's so excited.
And yeah,
it's nice to be around her energy.
Yeah.
She's like,
it's like she's at a Taylor Swift concert
with like how excited she is about everything.
That's how it is in life with me.
It's just like,
I'm just like not happy with anything
and she's just floating around.
And she's delighted by things all the time.
Yeah, she's delighted.
Yeah, she is.
Does she ever get like sad and pissed off and like really moody and like.
Oh, yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
So she can be a little bit.
Okay.
Yeah.
Irritated and grumpy.
Yeah.
When she gets irritated, she'll like start yelling and pounding her fist.
Good.
Oh, she makes a noise.
And I go, well, what's the matter? She'll make a really loud noise. She won't even realize. She makes a lot of noises. Good. She makes a noise and I go, what's the matter?
She'll make a really loud noise.
She won't even realize.
She makes a lot of noises.
Yes.
Okay.
That's good.
And you know what?
I make noises too.
And it's usually to get people to go,
what's wrong?
Yeah.
No, that's how I feel.
And I bring it up to her all the time.
It's like,
are you,
like when people generally make noises
and stuff like that, they don't
even realize it.
It's subconsciously.
They just want someone to come by and like give them a hug.
Yeah.
What's going on?
Yeah.
Totally.
They want people to know how much they're suffering.
Yes.
I've started asking for hugs recently.
Yes.
Because it's just, let's get to what I want to do.
Let's get to what I need right now.
Just skip all the what's going on and get the hug.
Let's just get to the hug. Yeah. Let's get to what I need right now. Just skip all the what's going on and get the hug. Let's just get to the hug.
Hugs help.
They so do.
People need to hug more.
I just hugged one of the Vila.
I hugged the Vila brothers on the way in before the interview started.
Yeah.
And then on the way out, we went for a handshake.
And I felt like, did our relationship crumble during that interview?
No.
It's weird to know what to go in for.
And especially as a woman that wears makeup,
all I think about is how I'm
going to get makeup on their shirt. It was on Dan Hanson's
shirt. I saw my makeup on his shirt and he has
no idea because he doesn't know to look for it.
But men should know to look for that.
If you touch a woman
who looks better than you think
her to look in that
moment, you're going to have a scuff
of tan on your shoulder
blade. Didn't you have that joke about
sleeping on your pillow and then you'd wake up
and then... It looks like your
pillowcase had gone through a color run
the night before. There's
colors on it you didn't even know were in makeup.
Yeah, so we are
waiting on more guests.
We'll see what happens
We have another show to do
We're at the radio row but we're also in Las Vegas
And I have to say I forgot how much I love Vegas
It's amazing
I love gambling I talk about this all the time
Why would I not
It's going to be after the apocalypse
Yeah we're going to have to be in convention centers
Talking to Kenneth Tillman
Yeah just all inside
People like robots
Things just curated perfectly.
I hope this is what it's like.
I mean, that would be the best case scenario.
In a perfect, would be the best case scenario.
Yes.
Worst case scenario.
But so before we came on for this episode, I wanted to gamble a little bit.
Yes, you did.
And with the encouragement, yeah, we were like, I wanted to watch you gamble.
I feel safer watching it.
Yeah.
I want to be a part of it, but I don't know the rules about watching it either.
I felt like bad being behind you
No everyone loves an audience
People feel so cool
You feel like a king
You don't have to say hit
You don't have to say stay
You just make a hand movement
Tap to stay
No to hit
This isn't blackjack
Tap to hit You wave your hand hit. I was playing, this is in Blackjack. So we were playing Blackjack. Tap's to hit.
And you just...
You can just do like, no.
No, you wave your hand over it to say...
Yeah, if you don't want anything.
And then you don't even have to say you want to split.
You just split the...
You just put your money down.
Tell me how people are adding up these numbers so quickly.
Well, some of them aren't.
I was watching the guy next to you.
He's getting a two, a four, a seven.
That guy seemed like a pro.
It was really hard for me to compute all that.
I'm not a complete idiot.
He was playing with $100 chips too.
He wasn't messing around. Oh, he wasn't.
I wanted to gamble a little bit. I even asked.
I said, do you want to watch me
gamble? We've got 15 minutes to
kill. Yep, that was exactly what I wanted to do.
I was trying to find a
blackjack table and the only blackjack tables
available were $50 minimum. I know.
We said do it.
I was peer pressured into doing it. I was looking for $5 or $10 minimum. I know. So I was like, we said do it. So I was peer pressured
into doing it.
I was looking for five
or $10.
And you lost immediately.
First two hands.
I was like,
I gave $300
to the woman.
To the woman.
The woman.
She's a dealer.
The dealer.
Yeah, the female dealer.
The female.
Well, first it was a man.
Yeah, so I gave $300.
I got,
that's 50,
that's six hands. I could lose all my money in
six hands yeah which would go by so fast so fast um and then my first three hands i lost yeah that
was 150 dollars and i'm looking back i'm like this is and ali doesn't give a fuck she goes she was
like it doesn't matter to me i was just like watching because it's not my money and i go
aren't you married isn't this your money too but she just didn't care she had a little bag with a trophy in it she was happy to watch it was it was crazy how quickly you can just lose all
your money it's so fast but it was so fun but then you got it back I was wondering I was like this
isn't gonna last the 15 minutes we need to kill I'm gonna lose all my money I'm gonna have 10
minutes left we were getting to the point where I was like we have to be there in five minutes and
you were still trying to get it back and I I'm like, Brian, five minute warning. I started doubling my bets. Instead of 50, I did 100.
And then my last hand, I got aces and I split them and I won the hand.
It's like three shirts from Zara.
That's right.
And I wound up with $345.
So $45 up.
And did you tip?
So far.
And then I wound up with 350.
I tipped $5 because the dealer helped me once.
I said hit.
She said, you don't want to hit. Don't do that. Yeah. And I said, okay. That's really helpful. Yeah. They do that, you know, because they want to get tipped $5 because the dealer helped me once. I said hit and she said, you don't want to hit.
I said, okay. That's really helpful.
They do that because they want to get tipped.
Does she owe you $5 if it's wrong?
If it's wrong, then they have to give you $5.
You wish. They'll take your money.
I totally get how it could be
addictive and I kind of want to go gamble now.
That's the thing. Afterwards, even though I won,
I felt terrible. You don't feel good.
I felt like I had just gotten over the flu.
Because it was so anxiety-inducing.
You went through the range of emotions. It's just so much anxiety. It's nothing like
sports gambling. As if you had just been pranked by Peanut
Tillman. That's right.
I really do think he has scarred that woman
for life. He pretended
to be a murderer
in her car.
And then he did it again by wrapping
his hands around her when she was going to her car.
She thought she was going to die twice in one day.
And the
second time she probably thought it was
100% not him because
she thought he wouldn't do this twice.
It's so insane.
I was just pranked yesterday
in the same spot and now someone's holding
me up in my own driveway.
You gotta think. She had a seizure the first time and then she's holding me up my own driveway. I mean, I think you got to think she had a
seizure the first time
and then she blacked
out the second time.
I don't like pranking.
I wouldn't, he would
be out of my life if I
were her.
I would have moved
away from him.
She was his neighbor.
But that was such a
fun show.
We have another one
coming up right after
this one.
So stay tuned for that.
It's Brian Frangie and
Nikki Glaser live from
the Super Bowl.
See you next time.
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