The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #420 Esther Povitsky Joins, The Comedy Scene, Raw and Pregnant, Drugstore June!
Episode Date: March 6, 2024The Nikki Glaser Podcast proudly joins iHeart's International Women's Day festivities and their Women Take The Mic series. Nikki and Brian give a warm welcome to everyone's little sister, Esther Povit...sky of Drugstore June & Trash Tuesday podcast. It's no secret that Nikki's material has been reflections on not wanting kids and the joys of avoiding parenthood. Esther, eight months pregnant, has a casual attitude to pregnancy. Together these dynamics lead to all sorts of twists. Additionally, they discuss comedy, the intricacies of navigating expectations, and their success in the industry as women.  Subscribe to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts to get this episode ad-free, and get exclusive bonus content: https://apple.co/nikkiglaserpodcast . Watch this episode on our Youtube Channel: The Nikki Glaser Podcast Follow the pod on Instagram for bonus content: @NikkiGlaserPod Leave us your voicemail: Click Here To Record Nikki's Tour Dates: nikkiglaser.com/tour Brian’s Animations: youtube.com/@BrianFrange More Nikki: IG More Brian: IG More producer Noa: IGSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Nikki Glaser Podcast.
The Nikki Glaser Podcast. Here I am. Welcome to the show, it's the Nikki Glaser Podcast.
We are in Los Angeles, California.
It's a very special episode because we are actually doing an episode
to honor the women who take the mic.
I don't know if it's an initiative or like a special episode,
but we're honoring women who take the mic I'm taking this mic
home with me I don't own it but
it's part of what the episode is about
is that I get to keep this mic and
what we're really doing is we're celebrating with iHeart
for International Women's Day
which falls on Friday March 8th and it's
International Women's Day is very
important and it's starting to
catch on in America but it's like very
important in
other places brian are you confused or what is going on this doesn't say anything of relevance
this is like ad reads no it does it's on the bottom of the second page go to the second page
and you'll find all about it women take the mic yes we're taking the mic and so for the special
women's episode we have a special woman guest yes and i know she's a woman because she's fucking
pregnant right now.
Oh my God.
Not all women
get pregnant though.
I didn't want to say that.
No, they don't.
That's not.
There are some women
who can't get pregnant.
Hashtag not all women.
Yes, yes.
But she is here with us today.
I love her so much.
I would consider you
one of my closest friends.
We don't hang out that much
but like I just.
I've never been more honored.
I literally listen
to your podcast.
I consider you my best friend. Oh my God. I love you so much. It's Esther Povitsky everyone. I love you been more honored. I literally listen to your podcast. I consider you my best friend.
Oh my God.
I love you so much.
It's Esther Povetsky, everyone.
I love you.
Thank you.
Hello.
One of the funniest people ever.
One of the most naturally talented, just cool girls ever.
I was just talking about how much I love you to someone because you just, to Rick Glassman,
actually, I was talking about how you embody your nemesis.
I was really trying to sell you to him he was uh he's still on the fence but um i was just saying like you're just
so cool like you just like are who you are which is like the best way to be as a woman is to just
not try to be anything except what you are and you are just you're so cool you're like the coolest
person i know i i think you're up there with a
couple other people in my life that are cool but like you are probably one of the coolest people
i know that is so nice and i actually do believe you because you are so supportive and nice to me
and i look at you like this cool popular girl like she's like the cheerleader and i'm like wait
why is she so nice but like i believe you and also. And also Nikki. Thank you. I saw your set.
Your standup is so good.
And even though it's basically a lot of it is like completely fighting against what I'm
currently doing with my body.
Like I am on your side.
Yeah.
Like I'm on your side with everything.
You, you are.
And you're like, you're very pregnant right now.
Are you eight months pregnant?
I'm eight months.
Yeah.
It's so embarrassing.
Thank you for being here.
No, don't.
I saw you the other night at the comedy store and you got out of your car and my boyfriend
and I were walking into the store and you were getting out and you were like, you just
started laughing when you saw us.
You were like, it's so embarrassing.
It's so embarrassing.
You're just waddling around.
You're not a person anymore you're just
like a vessel you realize what it's we're not equal to men like it's just are you angry about
it is there like what are you feeling empowered by this no i feel loving oh like i feel really
loving towards the father of my child which I'm glad he's enjoying it now
because once the baby comes out,
I'm sure my hormones will go back to nasty girl.
So things have changed.
Like you have become more gentle and.
I just feel really sensitive
and I'm like cleaning my house,
which is weird.
I know.
I know.
That's big for you.
Maybe I need to get pregnant.
I like it's,
it took like eight months to do it, pregnancy.
But yeah.
You're just like nesting.
You're getting the nest ready.
Well, I have not one single item purchased,
but I am cleaning just for myself, I think.
Are you?
Wait, you're not ready?
Not even a little bit.
I hate pregnancy so much that I realize
there's something going on in my brain
where I'm like, I'll just be pregnant forever.
Like this is my curse. Yes i'm in denial and i haven't given a literal one thought as to what my life will be like when the baby comes well that sounds good because it sounds
like you're living you're being present which is what we all aspire to i should plan though
some people should plan well it's like the one thing that's guaranteed not to last like sometimes
people have migraines are like what if this never goes away what it like a stomach ache like nausea or something like
that could but this will definitely pretty wild if it lasted longer than a few years i don't know
what pregnancy is like it's bound to be over within a month wait is it messed up to put you
on the spot though and ask where where's your head out on this subject i'm really good about not
having kids.
I really am.
Like, you're not the only person who's pregnant in my life.
Noah, our producer, who's not here with us right now because she's off getting married,
but she is due in March, I think, or May.
No, April.
Something around there.
One of the months.
Yeah, maybe next year, May.
I don't know, 2025.
But she's also pregnant right now.
My other friend, I have another friend who's pregnant.
I'm hearing a lot about it.
It sounds really hard.
And I think I wouldn't be as like, I think I would just be angry about the experience a little bit more.
I really support your choice.
And I always thought like, oh, if someone was pregnant and had a baby, like, why are they not trying to convince me to do it?
And now I see why I'm like, oh, like, because I for many years was like, I don't want kids.
And no one was ever like, you have to, which I was like, really?
Yeah, I was like, oh, you're just gonna close the conversation there.
But I kind of get it now. It's like, it's better.
Life was better before so far.
Yeah, it hasn't even started yet this is just
i'm excited you know there's such a good no it's gonna be great but i'm just i get
your point of view how was it better before i mean the physical discomfort is like i could just go on
and on it's really really challenging and i'm a very selfish person like when the plane is going
down i have no problem to put my mask on first.
That will never be an issue for me.
And this is really a time in my life where I cannot put myself first.
I can't just get high.
I can't just eat a big meal because my acid reflux will make me throw up.
There's so many comforts.
Caffeine too, right?
Aren't you?
You're dabbling.
Yeah, I'm dabbling.
Yeah, I'm getting in there.
Heroin?
Are you just dabbling?
Heroin is safe for pregnancy.
I haven't heard anyone say you can't do it.
That's right.
It's not on all the lists that I see.
I guess they just maybe assume you wouldn't.
But if they don't say no, I'm going to do it.
We do have to talk about women in this segment.
Generally.
And I want to talk about, because we're celebrating International Women's Day, March 8th.
Does this experience being pregnant make you really proud to be a woman?
Are you learning how strong women are in the experience of it? March 8th. Does this experience being pregnant make you really proud to be a woman? Like,
are you learning
how strong women are
in the experience of it?
Are you like having
newfound respect
for your mom?
And literally every,
now that my friends
are going through pregnancy,
I was at the Super Bowl
and I was looking at
the thousands of people there
and I was like,
every single person here,
there was a woman
who was like,
oh,
like for every person,
like someone had to go through a whole pregnancy
and have a baby shower it's mind-blowing have people touching your stomach in public it's just
like it's amazing that there's a strong woman behind every idiot that you see at a stadium
like event i do agree with you and i also am totally seeing that differently like i'm
i'm respecting my mom more
I'm like and all moms
cause look let's be real moms are pretty lame
they're pretty lame
it's pretty lame to be a mom
okay we all know that
what do you mean?
mom culture could really
use a rebrand
it's like overlapping with Karen
culture a little bit yes
moms and karen you have to be a mom pretty much to be a karen by the way i love weed i also think
weed culture needs a rebrand i think that's embarrassing too so it's not just anti-mom but
like so i've always felt you know mom culture is a little lame but going through this suffering
and struggling i'm like because i really respect toughness in people because I'm so weak.
And I'm like, oh, this is you have to be really tough.
And like, oh, I'm just like, oh, my God, every mom is so strong, so tough.
Like they just go through all this.
And I and like no one respects them for it.
No one cares.
We just roll our eyes when our babies cry.
Yes.
We're like, get your tit out of here.
Like, it's crazy how we. how we said that so many times how we treat moms and then going through this i'm like oh i'm such a little bitch like i
they are they women are great yeah and you know what whether or not it's like the right decision
for your life like once you make it, you have to stick it out.
There's no taking it back.
You can't divorce your baby.
They can divorce you at a certain age, like Macaulay Culkin you,
but you are stuck with that decision.
That is really strong to me to take a chance that this thing,
you don't know if you're good at yet.
You might have this instinct that I'm going to be good at it,
but you're doing this thing.
Your husband can leave at any time if he wants.
Yeah, he'll feel like a piece of shit his whole life, but can like kind of run away from it you just move on you really can't as a woman no you're so trapped
i know it's isn't it weird like it's like oh she's trying to trap me the only person who gets
trapped in a baby making situation is the woman yes we got it all wrong yeah i it's it just is really impressive to me what um women go through to have to make
another human um and that's i i i i'm too selfish to do it i just i i thought you would be too
i'm with you on that yeah i can't i fell for this i really wasn't your idea no i think it was just it was like it was like my baby daddy who i guess is technically
my fiance whatever he is he's 45 and i was like shit he would be a good dad i love him he was
never pressuring me at all but i was like oh he'd be such a good dad he's his age is getting up
there i'm like the only person that has a kid because like the man
is getting old
so I was just like let's just you know what Alice
I was like let's just try
because it might not happen
and then and you just kind of want to see if you can
yeah do you ever feel that
yeah I think about it all the time
I just I mean I've had really awful thoughts
that I can't say right now because it's going to air
on the radio but once we get to the podcast
segment of our show I didn't realize it was gonna be on the radio
yeah so we have to like keep it clean
yeah yeah everything's been great but we said tits is that fine
I think um yeah we might
have to clean that up they might leave it but that's okay
but um yeah I
definitely have had thoughts of like
I just want to prove that I can do it because it is so
badass to be able to make
a baby and to have one and it seems to be and it's a sign that you're youthful oh i in your
stand-up yeah about it is so funny thanks are you excited to are you would you know what you're
having it's a girl oh my god an international woman i know future woman what makes you excited
about having a girl what What makes you nervous?
Did you want a girl?
I would want a girl so bad.
Of course I did.
Of course, yes.
I know.
When there are gender reveals and the dads are always so obviously bummed out when it's
a girl, I'm always just like, you idiot.
This is going to be so much easier.
I know.
Because the girl will love you.
The girl will love her dad like nothing else.
Little boys are demons.
They're chaotic monsters that destroy your home and your body and your family.
She might not be that cute, let's be real.
But she's going to be smart.
That's what I'm counting on.
She'll be smart.
We're not like the hottest Jewish couple.
So basically, two years ago, I got pregnant and had a miscarriage and so after that experience
i was this with this pregnancy i was like not thinking about gender at all i didn't literally
didn't cross my mind because we were just like oh my god we just like hope it sticks whatever
and then when i got the call and they're like do you know the gender do you want to know
and i had again this whole time i hadn't thought about it and she just goes it's a girl and i was like it was like the best moment
of my life and i my first thought was like i should get out of this hot bath because you
shouldn't take off baths when you're pregnant and i was just really happy and i think i'm excited
stayed in if it were a boy turned up the heat let's just see what he can handle that he's tough
he's a boy um That's so exciting.
Yeah.
To have a girl.
And so wait, so tell me.
I want to recreate my whole life onto it, obviously.
Absolutely.
I want to be a dance mom.
Okay, so what do you wish for her?
What do you want her to be like?
What are things that you want to redo for her and not have her experience?
Or what are things that you, yeah, what do you want for your for her and not have her experience? Or what are things that you...
Yeah, what do you want for your daughter as a woman in this world?
I just want to have my own life too.
Is that a really bad answer?
No.
You want to set an example of a woman who can have it all?
Well, we all know that no one can have it all, right?
Have we busted that myth yet?
I don't know.
You can't.
There's no way.
Hillary Clinton. I want i wanna she did it i want i think she did i think she famously didn't get it all i want her to have a very close relationship with her dad so that mommy can still go tour
yeah i want to you want to still be able to tour yeah i think it's such a cool look
he's a writer okay so he stayed he stays put kind of yeah yeah he stays put for that's great
i don't want to keep touring too and i and i would remember bonnie mcfarland used to bring her baby
yeah to the comedy clubs and she grew she's so cool she's such a cool child i definitely like
i don't want to become a person who is just like a mom 24-7
and is like entertaining.
And like,
I read on Reddit a lot,
these like moms that are like,
I'm so bored.
I'm just playing baby games all day.
I'm like that.
Regretful parents.
I subreddit.
Don't go on that one.
Really?
Dude,
that's,
I frequent that one
to like help myself
through my doubts.
I need to look at that
to prepare myself.
No, no, no. Do not. It's all people who wish they could Casey Anthony, but help myself. Oh, I need to look at that to prepare myself. No, no, no.
I do not.
It's all people who wish they could Casey Anthony, but can't.
Like it's all people that have that same mindset of like, why did I do this?
Why aren't I free?
Like, I regret this.
Please don't do this.
So I would not recommend going on.
I'm going to go.
It's just for people like me who need to like not be not do it just because they're feeling
pressure.
And so they need to be I think that what I am
doing my mindset is I'm going
to this with very low expectations
I'm fully like I might hate this
I'm not the kind of person I always dreamed
of being a mom it's more of like an
experiment and look if grandma and grandpa
have to move out here and
take the lead
they totally are going to
that's great you love your parents in case I'm a reddit regretful out here and take the lead. They totally are going to. That's going to have to.
That's great.
You love your parents. There's backup plans.
In case I'm a Reddit regretful parent,
we have backup plans.
Yeah.
Where do they live?
Chicago.
Okay.
But we'll work hard and get them a house out here.
Sure, sure.
We're going to really.
I love that you have no,
you're not prepared for this at all.
I love it.
I love that you're just like,
these are my favorite types of parents.
The ones that are just like,
yeah, we'll see.
We'll figure it out.
Because you really will. Yeah. No one really knows what, these are my favorite types of parents, the ones that are just like, yeah, we'll see. We'll figure it out.
Because you really will.
Yeah.
No one really knows what they're doing.
People figured it out in the woods.
Yes.
People had nothing but rocks and sticks.
Yes. And they still survived.
We're all here.
Yeah.
I mean, you are very close with your parents.
Very.
Did they,
do you feel like they parented you
or like put thought into raising you
or was it just kind of like?
Not really.
Yeah, me either.
I look back and
i think that's probably why i'm a comedian and have low self-esteem is because they didn't read
the books that they should have someone has a great joke about like someone said like you know
they don't write someone's mom had said like you know what sorry i messed up with you there's so
there's not a book on how to be a good parent it's like no there's many you could have read so many but yeah i think that um no i think uh they raised me to be smart and confident and like really
believe i could do anything uh and i think that's really important yeah but i think i know how to
raise like uh like i i could make a taylor swift if i had a child oh really you want to know how
to raise a daughter that is lock them in a room with a guitar and say you can't eat until you can play well that's the
north korean way yes but um there's other there's other ways north koreans should write a book if
they were allowed to read them they should um but uh no it's just you have to make them believe that
everything they do is not perfect but with enough hard work it can be and that you're capable of hard work you might not be the most talented at this thing but you know what you can
do is you can always work hard you can work harder than everyone else because that is something that
like kind of your parents teach you no but i figured out myself i i i was not talented growing
up naturally i wasn't i wasn't a natural at things right i relate to you with that don't you like a
dancer and stuff yeah but that's hard work that's not talent yeah you weren't just like yeah no i took a million classes and worked my ass off
like i'm totally with you that's what i think kids need to be told they're like everyone's like
you're special and then when you're a little girl you start to see people have natural talent or have
natural looks and you just think like i i should just give up and i just keep looking for something
that i have a knack for and thankfully i found comedy which i did have a knack for but if i
wouldn't have found that i would have felt like a huge failure but what i wish someone would have
told me early on is like you're not good at singing right now you're not good at dancing
or all these things you want to be good at but just work really hard and you can be as good as
anyone else that's just born with it i absolutely and then you need to be told you're amazing at
everything like you are so like you're so great and like we support you no matter what you do failing is such
an important part of the process like no judgment no like why did you do that none of that bullshit
just all none of that bs just all um just everything's okay failure is a part of the
process it's good You need to fail.
Oh my gosh, thank God you failed at that.
Do you know why?
Because that girl got that and you didn't,
you're going to be better off because of it.
I feel so healed listening to that.
I just know that that's the ticket, man.
And you can't be cool in high school.
Oh yeah.
That's a big mistake.
You got to get it.
If you're cool in high school,
your whole life's going to be shit.
Well, you know what?
I also think I'm like similar to that is if you get all the, well, this is just me talking shit
about people I went to high school with, but the people who got the leads and the plays
all the time really easy, then they go out in the real world and they-
I know.
I know where they are.
They can't handle the rejection and they quit.
But you and me,
we were losers.
We were getting rejected
in high school
and we didn't go to
performing arts high schools.
We were not up against
the best.
You don't want to be
a loser either.
You don't want to be a loser.
You got to be in the middle
somewhere.
If you're a loser,
if you're too low,
you're not going to be able
to climb out of that hole
in time.
But if you're so cool
and you're surfing all day
and everyone's trying to have sex with you in high school you're gonna fail you're gonna you're
gonna be a loser adult no but think about the quarterback think about mahomes and well if you
can make it to the nfl if you can make it onto broadway then then you're different yes but for
all the regular people yeah you don't want to be the coolest regular person in high school no well
i don't want to ask you about this bar in town actually i could actually ask you like you seem like someone
you're you just i want to phrase this in a way that doesn't sound like it's like a backhanded
compliment because i hate the way some people can say these things and it sounds the opposite of
what i want to say i don't you are so admirable you're so cool and i think your coolness and and
beautiful and just i just watch you and i just like i'm kind of in love with you and i think it's because and you're so
you don't you're not trying to be anything you're not like you're interested in like cool things and
pretty girls and wanting to be that but you seem to have you're not like mad at yourself for not
being the things that you aren't whereas i feel like i internalize a lot of that like why was
she born with that and not me and like i must be bad because I don't have that thing.
And it like it it eats it.
It eats it.
It corrodes my soul when I get jealous.
And you don't seem you can admire things without being mad that you aren't them necessarily.
And you can still exist among these people and therefore be as cool as them.
This is interesting because, OK, as a a comedian don't you sort of feel like
all of the things about you that are like flawed and messed up and like maybe even negative and
just not like those get you from point a to point b in the career of comedy like when i go on stage
like my breakthrough moment in like an open mic in 2009 was just going on stage and being like I have a
yeast infection and like monologuing about that and then that being the best that I had had in
my first year of comedy there was no jokes in it but like I just find that this flawed
version of me when I'm just honest is like the best case scenario it's like it gets me what where i want to be what i want
and like i'm if i was trying to be something i'm not i would fail yes okay i see what you're saying
like don't you yes you must relate to that because you go up there and you do it and but i don't
think i i consciously have thought about it that way of like, oh, whoa. Just being you.
Being when I like stop trying to be someone else.
And I'm my weirdest, most authentic version of myself that I might be really ashamed of
when that slips out because I just don't have the defenses for it anymore or out of desperation
or just some moment on stage where you're like, yeah, I've had that moment on stage
where I go, I got HPV.
And I just tell a whole room of people I have HPV, including this girl who i know hates me and would love to know that about me but i and i
like gave her that but i felt like i owned it now like you know i have hpv because i told you good
luck gossiping about it i was the one who announced it to a room of people like that has yes when i'm
able to stop trying to be anyone else and lean into the weirdest things about me um yeah it does always
yeah that is my ticket i admire you so much like if there was anything different about you you
wouldn't be nikki glazer and like we need nikki glazer but then there's the times though esther
where you get like yesterday i got so many compliments on like you look so pretty because
i come from a photo shoot early in the day. And so I was like, fake eyelashes on all day, hair extensions all day.
I just left my makeup, you know, spray tan.
And the compliments come on, like, you just get more attention from girls, guys, like everything.
It feels so nice.
And it just is like more indicate.
And it's not me.
This was literally not done by me.
I can't do what this is.
And yet I'm getting all this love that I've always wanted.
So it's like it reinfor reinforces to me like,
no, that stuff is important.
You're getting this attention that feels really good.
It makes you feel good.
And I can't even, you know.
But just because it makes you feel good
and gives you attention
doesn't mean that it's important, you know?
Okay.
Like, and also don't you ever look in the mirror
when you're just in your sweatpants
and you have no makeup on and you're like,
I look so good. Yes, but i do need a spray tan i can be makeup free without a spray tan and that but i'm just saying those moments where i go i look good without makeup they happen but i do
have a spray tan when i have them and if there were permanent spray tans to get i would get one
a hundred percent i keep dreaming about this thing where you can like
take a pill and it will like turn
your skin orange.
Could eating carrots do that?
I think it does.
I've seen that on TikTok.
Wow.
How many carrots?
But a lot.
I think you have to eat like three a day.
I used to eat a lot of carrots when I was like anorexic and I did get a little orange.
You just look sick.
Three carrots?
No, three whole carrots a day.
Yeah.
That seems like a lot.
That seems reasonable.
I do want to compliment you though that you do spray tans and not
regular tanning because so many people
are still out there using the tanning beds.
That's crazy. I know. So good on you.
Well, I'm too vain to do regular beds.
That's great. Love that. Love to hear that.
Love to hear it.
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So my favorite woman in the world is obviously Taylor Swift,
and she's had the most amazing year as a woman out there,
killing it more than anyone's
ever killed it ever and um setting the best magazine woman of the year hard-working friendly
nice like now she's dating a guy that she used to kind of hide her relationship now she's dating
guys she's just like herself out like Taylor Swift's at a party at the Super Bowl just hanging
out amongst people people are filming her constantly. She's keeping her composer.
She's so cool.
I'm going to see her three times in the next week.
I'm going to Australia randomly for my boyfriend's friend's wedding,
and she happens to be there.
Everyone's like, oh, she happens to be there.
No, I didn't get the wedding scheduled.
I had no – yes, it's a coincidence, but I'm going three more times.
We went together.
It was so fun, and I can't believe you're going three more times. We went together. It was so fun. And I can't believe you're going through.
We went to SoFi over the summer.
And and that's what I loved about you.
OK, so you go to this is this is Esther for you go to the Swift Taylor Swift show.
And, you know, it's like a whole event.
You have to, like, dress up for it.
It's like a big thing.
And she is just wearing her cool pull off like Adidas, button-up blue Adidas stripe pants
with sneakers and a black shirt.
She looks like she's going to a boy genius show.
But everyone's decked out in sparkles,
and I'm wearing a ridiculously sparkled dress.
I was so happy to be on your arm.
I love that you just didn't...
If I were you in that moment,
and I wouldn't have been
because you're the coolest person ever,
but I would have been like, oh no, I didn't dress right for this. I would have been so... You just don't like if i were you in that moment like and i wouldn't have been because you're the coolest person ever but i would have been like oh no i didn't dress right for that like i would have been so you just don't even care you're so weird that you're like that you're
because you're a star a brat right now i want to call out myself like i'm doing the thing of like
i love how you dress you just don't care what people think i'm not doing that right now it's
the best compliment you are you are you do look cool like i i think you always look cooler than
everyone else and you're so
pretty this is how i feel about you oh we're remembering yeah we do this we do this all the
time also remember the people's choice awards which you were so generous to take me as your
date literally nikki shows up in like five inch heels i'm in flats our height difference is already
not great i literally look like a miniature person next to you. And we're just like, we're
getting pictures together. I love that so much. Yeah, it was this like, event that I spent
thousands of dollars to get dressed for and I needed to I was like gonna be in it. I was
presenting or whatever. So it was necessary. But like you just roll up and you were like,
you just put together you look so good without having to put in all this effort. And I just love
I love being around you because you first of all all you celebrate the women in your life so much you're just like you're
tried and true a girl's girl and i don't so nice what is a girl's girl i think okay is it kind of
like you're into girly stuff and you love your girlfriends and you love to like i don't know
is that's it right i To me, it means a girl
that you know
isn't going to be threatened by you
and you're not going to be threatened.
Like you, like,
I think that's it.
It's a girl that you know
is not going to get weird around you
because you...
Oh my God, that's so niche.
It's really hard to find that.
It is.
A girl's girl to me
is like a guy's girl.
What do you mean?
Okay.
A girl's girl is a girl
that hangs out with all the girls and
if it's not threatening to anybody then she also could probably hang out with the guys without
being threatening to them yeah probably i was thinking that more too but the definition that
you're giving is i just i know we're just doing compliments but like that is part of like the
huge reason that i'm drawn to you is because there's none this is a very competitive business it's very hard like
every all genders everyone's competitive but like you are like there is just none of that with you
and i feel so safe with you like i feel like i could like we could tell each other the best news
about ourselves and it was like no one they would just would not be weird. Yes, absolutely. I feel this. Same.
I feel this girl's girl romance with you.
Absolutely.
Like, so I'm actually really glad you brought that up because I, and I'm like, what is,
I don't know what makes some, what makes you feel that way or why you can have that with
certain people, but I'm just very grateful.
And you are a true girl's girl.
Well, thank you.
I think that I am.
I really love my female friends i love women
so much but it you know and i've talked about a lot on this podcast i do get threatened by other
women especially women who are female comics who are hilarious and you know sometimes i'll see a
clip of yours and be like why is she so much funnier than me and i'll get like there's a
moment of like how why am i not that funny and why didn't i think of that angle for that kind of
thing and i i start going in my head and then i'm just like i'm just like so glad i get to witness
this and like be friends with there's a split second of of that like anger of like why am i
not this i want this to go away it's too good and now because you're my friend it's it's it's a blink
of an eye that goes away but there's some people who aren't my friends and i can get very threatened
by other women and And I want,
you know,
in years past,
I would want to silence them or like,
please just go away.
Like I'm not going to promote him.
And I think in the past year and a half,
maybe two years,
and I've talked about on the podcast,
I make a conscious effort.
Now,
when I get jealous,
you don't get to be jealous.
If you're jealous,
Nikki,
you have to post about them.
You have to spread the word.
Wow.
You have to do the opposite action.
Like if you want them to go away and you want like to, if you a clip of some girl that's really funny that threatens you you got to post it that's amazing look at how bold and brave you
are to do that admit to that like that is so cool because i should want i want to compete against
the best i want people to be comparing me to this girl because i want to be this is going to push me to be better because i'm i'm inspired by this why why be sad that i'm not as
good as this why don't why don't i take this and go like why don't i find a way to be as because
usually i'm just jealous of authenticity is what i'm like because that's kind of what i dealt i
dabble in and so when i see other girls finding a way to be that in a new way that i haven't and i go oh
man why didn't why can't i be like that uh and instead i just go okay how can i find a way to
to rip that joke off no how can i find a way to be that so but it's really helped me and then the
other thing is and this is maybe not the best thing i will mute if i'm feeling too triggered
because i mute a lot of people because
sometimes as a woman we are we do compare ourselves to each other we we do live in a
patriarchy where there's isn't space enough for us all where men you know judge us by if we're
bangable enough and that's and there's only and when we aren't anymore it's kind of we feel like
we have to find some other identity to get attention it's like a very scary world out there and there does seem to be like not enough space for all of us and so to
protect myself from going down those rabbit holes when i do feel too sick in the head i will mute
i think that's absolutely like it's it's crazy to even consider not doing that like there will be
times where i'm scrolling and whatever it is i'm like oh that person's annoying and I'm like what that that's not their fault it's my fault for being here
I'm like put the phone down mute them or just get off for an hour whatever it is like get out of
that because we don't I don't have no one's making me look at someone else's stand-up clip or photo
like yes that's I'm doing I'm doing that to myself yes and so i think
any tools like muting just putting it away that's what that should be the standard it really shouldn't
be subjecting ourselves to shit that's just making us mad and the truth is you think that when you
mute something that you've made maybe you've been obsessed with some certain person maybe it's like
an ex-boyfriend or an ex-boyfriend's new girlfriend and you check it all the time
and you think, well, Nikki, if I mute it,
I'm still gonna, I'm gonna go to her on my other account
or if I block her or whatever.
You don't.
It's amazing how if you don't see them on your feed,
you truly forget they're alive after a while.
Like it actually works
and I would never have thought it works,
but it really does.
It does.
This is why advertising works. It's the opposite of advertising. You you take it away you don't see it you forget yes it's like
a magic trick and we just like beat ourselves up we're like i'm obsessed with this but it's we're
not we're just in like this habit loop that we can just get out of by like taking thoughtful action
and changing it yes this is you know my favorite kind of women are the women who are vulnerable, who are
open about what they struggle with or, you know, admit to their privilege, just admit
anything about themselves that they're a little bit ashamed of.
I love that.
And in bringing Taylor Swift back into it, because sometimes with Taylor, I can get into
these things of like, she's so freaking freaking perfect like I just zoom in and I
look for a crow foot a crow
toe I look for anything
and there's nothing she's just
every inch of her skin and I go there's not
there's no way this was photoshopped this is just
an image that just came from Getty
like two seconds ago no one put this through anything
this is her she's just so
perfect the way she speaks the way like even
when she does there's like a whole clip of it's like the heiress tour but it's called like the errors tour
and it's like all of her mess-ups and every mess-up she has which is minimal are all adorable
and like a little slip here and there because it was like slippery like none of them are her fault
of being like unprepared she's truly a perfect person for my definition of the word and sometimes i can feel triggered by that
but then you know she releases a song like um mirror ball or anti-hero that talks about how
she has depression how she compares herself how she doesn't feel like she's enough how she has
she feels like she has to keep working because she's never been a natural all she does is try
try try like and you know that's that really i love that no matter how much i project perfection onto people
there's always another story to it i agree with you also anti-hero is my favorite song in the
world ever and i know it's like yes no no no that's it's it's an amazing song it's so good
but what i wanted to say was i found myself this past year because you're like an og swifty
i was always more of like a gaga like a
brady casey mcgrady lana wait say that again we saw her egg lady gaga's egg that she came out of
on the mtv movie awards we were in vegas this past weekend oh that's right there's a lady gaga
museum store yeah i love lady gaga i mean talk about we gotta go see her when she's back yes
and we saw britney together let's not forget
in las vegas esther and i went to go see britney in vegas britney taylor and gaga yeah during her
cage tour wow she was in an egg too but it was but so like i'm a pretty newer swifty like i
you know the heiress tour obviously got me like all in and i have to say like all of a sudden i'm like oh my god she's the most
beautiful woman on the planet but i never thought that and i'm like oh this is so exciting i actually
now know i find her so perfect and beautiful physically because of like what i know about her
and her art yes so it's not her face it's not her body it's not her perfect red lip it's like who
she is what she has to say how
she moves through the world and influences us all in such a positive way like that really is
impacting how i literally see her with my eyes it's like when you fall in love with someone and
they can be and by the way she's just without question like just she is a beautiful person but
but i have fallen so deeply in love with her looks even more so because i have an intimacy
with her now right because like she has shared so much in her songs that i feel like i know are
people people who like make fun of swifties for being for having parasocial relationships with
her you don't get it because you don't listen to the music and you don't understand what this woman
has shared with us way more than any artist that you might love has shared with you like people
don't understand if they don't know her discography like how intimate she can get and it's almost
like you know when you like have a crush on someone you're like i don't know if i really
am into the way i'm attracted to them and then you get to know them and they're so hot to you
it is that with her if you fall in love with like a disgusting hag you can be attracted to them yeah
yeah it all just switches. She can be,
yeah,
it really is that.
It's what's on the inside
that counts.
Yeah.
And we're proving it today.
That's the one thing
I always question.
I'm like,
is it?
No,
what's on the inside counts
but that just changes
your perception of the outside.
So really,
it's the outside that counts.
Wait a second though.
I just realized something.
Like,
being hot on the outside
is so much work but we haven't talked about like, being hot on the outside is so much work,
but we haven't talked about, like,
being hot on the inside is maybe more work.
Yeah, and you don't think about that often
because we just assume it comes naturally to people.
Yes.
But it probably doesn't.
And being hot on the inside is just being yourself
and being unapologetic about it,
and not like, I'm just just gonna sit however i want or
you know i don't care i'm gonna listen to my phone on speaker and i don't care you know not like
unapologetic in that way but like just being a being being okay with who you are is so hot
but it's so hard to do i would think it's it's harder than getting all the laser facials and
all the plastic surgeries and all the pilates classes it's it's it's been a way harder endeavor
for me to be um hot inside than outside but there's there's so many great examples of women
who are embodying that and like are just um yeah that's what i just i want to keep pursuing that
do you ever like i because i absolutely relate to how you're what you're explaining like looks are
obviously very important to me as well
like i want to be cute i want to feel good when you look good you feel good when you feel good
you do better you know at everything but do you ever wake up and you're like like maybe you had
a little insecurity about your looks whatever it is or you know anything and then you're like
oh my god i'm so glad I'm a comedian.
Yes.
Because like the thing that I do is not about my looks.
It's about my mind.
Yes, but I smell that.
I do feel grateful that I'm a comedian
all the time because of what you're just saying.
Like it isn't about my looks,
but there is a secret part of me
because I came up
and i was
billed as like a young cute comic even though i never felt cute it was part of my branding
and so that is something that like i felt like did whether i wanted it to or not got me on shows
got me attention early on and so that is something that i do feel is part of my appeal and when that goes like well people know
i'm not really talented but the truth is that the more it goes when i age much like i'm talking
about like i need to do the inner work because yeah my looks are fading i'm approaching 40 it's
it's going to be downhill yes i'll get more distinguished looking and cooler looking and
just more rugged looking and like all the good things that come with age more wisdom in my eyes and all that
bullshit it will i do have to amp up other things like i am working harder on my stand-up because
i don't have my looks to fall i can't be just cute like we you just have to and we're getting
older we're not as tapped into what the younger generation's doing like as you get older you just
have to try harder you have to work harder to achieve the same thing so i think i'm just it's making me focus on the more important things that i can control
totally agree and i'm actually loving this step and direction for myself so much more like i still
look i love makeup i love all the girly girl things but in my 20s i was a little more into like finding the perfect highlighter
and the perfect blush tone for my skin and it's like i spend a little less time on that now and
a little more time on like how do i really feel about this subject that i want to do a bit about
and testing it and and this version which might seem sadder because it's like just about being
uglier and older yeah it's better
i like it better i'm not just saying that if you didn't have to worry about your looks like what
could you do like if it was really not a concern at all like what could you what that actually just
like scares me it's just not even like conceivable to me to like pack for shows and not bring the
heels and the dresses and the spray tan and all the things and people say you can just give that stuff up and not worry about it and like yeah try try it not wearing
makeup on stage it's like it will be it will be a thing if i don't i have to ease into not
i also wouldn't want to walk away from that because it's so fun like doing it yeah like it's
it's fun to feel good about yourself and there's no shame in it. Like we talked about, I'm eight months pregnant and the first three months of the pregnancy,
first trimester, just absolute misery.
Couldn't get out of bed.
Like just everything was yucky to me.
Even my dog.
Food aversion.
Like my friend is having the hardest time being pregnant with food.
It sucks.
She is nauseous all the time she can look at a pile
of blankets that look like food seriously these other days she sent us pictures of blankets on
her couch and she was like it just looks like a pile of food we were like what this like blanket
like she's sick sickened by everything literally like i will be in bed i would be in bed and then
dave would be on a different floor in the home putting a drop of
oil in a pan and I'm like how dare you yes it's me you're me you're trying to kill me it's so
nauseating but my point is is like after being like in three months of just not feeling myself
at all all I craved was like I wanted to feel feel pretty. I wanted to like, and, and why that's okay with me,
like wanting to feel pretty and get cute or whatever is because it's all up to me and how I
feel like the makeup that I do. If I like it and I, then I feel good. I'm the judge of it.
Yeah. It might look to, I might, someone might get a picture of it. It looks really bad and no one else likes it.
It's all on me.
If I feel good about it, then like that's awesome.
And so like when you do your shows, when you're on tour and you put your outfit on and your heels and your makeup and you feel so good, that's, there's nothing wrong with that.
That's awesome.
You're so right.
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And Team Supreme and I have been working hard
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and some people you've seen on stage or TV or magazine covers,
but we also love speaking to the folks
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and they pave the way for those that followed.
You know, keystones to the culture.
This season, we've had some amazing one-on-one conversations
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I struggled, though.
The other night I was in Vegas and I got this really cute red corset top that I wanted to wear to one of the Chiefs events because it's like red.
And I wore it with these like high-waisted pants.
It was so cute.
And then I wore it.
I needed a blazer for it.
So I went and got a blazer from Zara.
And it just like was this cute outfit.
And then I was walking around this casino and i got asked i'm not joking you twice in a row
of like where the bathrooms were people thought i worked there and i felt so it like it took me
out of it so much and my boyfriend's laughing and my boyfriend notoriously doesn't like blazers on
women women he's like i don't know where women i've never once seen a blazer on a woman and
thought that was like a good look.
And that, whenever I wear a blazer around him, I feel, even though I feel him, and I tried to do a thing of like, well, I like it.
That's what I do with Dave too.
But I gotta be honest, it felt a little bit, I wasn't as excited.
I'm like, I know I'm turning off my boyfriend actively right now.
It doesn't, so I don't know if this is good enough for me, even i just kept being like well i like it you you'll check yourself fine he goes no like you shouldn't
dress for me it's not like every woman shouldn't wear a blazer because i don't think they're good
looking i just never have seen one that makes me think that that's like a good look for a woman
i'm like i get it like it but that stuff that sticks in my head now and now i'm like oh god
every time i now if i wear a blazer
around him i'm like it's a sign of like i don't have sex with you it's like that's that's how i
feel what i'm saying like he's not gonna be attracted to me and that's important like being
attractive to men yeah it's still important it's like but i do agree with you that it is it feels
good to feel good about yourself but i i I recently went a little darker with my hair color
because I'm tired of getting my hair done.
That's the thing that I'm like,
I've been complaining about it for years of my life.
Every six weeks, I have to sit somewhere for four hours
with someone I don't want to talk to.
I know, that's how I feel about nails.
And sit in this lighting and stare in a mirror
in this horrible lighting with these magazines
that all they have is Vogue and People, just magazines that are filled with magazines that are just like, all they have is like Vogue and people,
just magazines that are filled with people that are hot.
You should be able to select conversation preferences like on Uber.
Oh my God.
Yes.
I never,
by the way,
ever click.
No,
I feel like they're going to hate me.
I know.
I never click it.
Oh,
I do quiet.
You do?
Yeah.
And sometimes they give you shit.
They go,
I hear,
so I see that you don't want conversation and I just go.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
That's what I think is going to happen. That's what I'm avoiding. But then I do have a long conversation want conversation and I just go. Oh my God. Yeah, that's what I think is gonna happen.
That's what I'm avoiding.
But then I do have a long conversation.
Sorry, it's an option.
I'm doing it.
Wait, but your like piercing icy blue eyes
with dark hair would be so sexy.
Okay.
Like I could see that being so hot.
All right.
There's something going on there.
I think it might be the blazer of hair
from my boyfriend.
So we'll see. might be the blazer of hair for my boyfriend so we'll see you have a blazer um my thing is like every two weeks i'll be in the car with dave and he'll be like
is that like glitter on your face and i'm just like no oh my god yeah it just accidentally got
there you know just the 27 on this little tube of it. Yeah. Yeah. They like hate, like.
They hate glitter.
They just, any like obvious effort like that.
You don't mind glitter?
Really?
No, I don't mind glitter.
There's a lot of things I do mind, but not glitter.
What do you mind?
You might just not know what glitter is.
No offense.
Like.
Okay.
Yeah.
Like shimmer.
Maybe I don't know what shimmer.
I don't know what this is.
I feel like guys don't really know it.
Oh, so I know when I see it. I don't like really. I don't like what shimmer is. I don't know what this is. I feel like guys don't really know it. Oh, so I know when I see it.
Yeah.
I don't like lip injections.
Yeah.
Especially if they're really big.
Yeah, I don't like really heavy makeup, I think.
I don't like big scars.
I think scars are so cool.
Bleeding ulcers.
Those are so in right now though remember when uh like you're wearing a band-aid was in like the kids are putting on a band-aid with no injury yeah yeah
that's cool is that still cool yeah i think now you can do pimple patches like out starface really
yeah yeah yeah that's cool starface is like the coolest thing even gen alpha is like we're making
this work.
They just wear little pimple patches and they're cute.
And so it's like, look, I'm showing off that I have acne and not covering it up. That's awesome.
Oh my God.
Does acne need like a rebrand?
Yeah, it's got it.
Cool.
Yeah.
Because it's so unavoidable.
It's so just, it doesn't mean any, it makes you feel like you look dirty or that you're
doing something wrong, but it does not mean that you are. And it's the fucking, it doesn't mean any, it makes you feel like you look dirty or that you're doing something wrong, but it does not mean that you are.
And it's the fucking, it's the worst.
I feel so bad for people who suffer with it.
I really, I love that for them.
I know.
I would have loved to wear a bunch of goddamn stickers on my face in high school.
I know.
I wear them.
I want bag stickers.
I want like stickers for everything.
I just, I'll never, you ever remember like the worst like comments boys made about your face
or like anything in high school i remember this one time john reiner was just like you look tired
today and i just will never forget and i remember my eyes were really puffy and i went and looked
in the mirror and i was like you're just like it i remember where it happened where i was walking
what i was wearing like you were in high school yeah that's so funny because like a tired high
schooler that sounds like such a good look like
i'm like so into like when young people look tired i'm like they have a hoodie with their
hood up and a coffee yeah that's cool eyes are dark like that's so cool yeah sometimes i do look
really young when i'm tired because my face is really puffy i know sometimes i like it now
yeah okay you're like studying the trends on tiktok like
you're very active on tiktok yes do you feel like it's good no you're not at all i think it's cool
like that what's going on on there like what are you looking at like what are what's like what's
the latest how are you feeling about gen z gen alpha i guess the one after them now no that's
after gen oh my god there's another
one yeah i didn't know that existed yeah it seems like people are really like all the things that i
always thought were in style are cool but apparently weren't but it's like being really
authentic and honest and open about your flaws and also like being like budgeting out loud is like a new topic
so it's like being instead of quiet luxury which like we're moving away from already like that
doesn't think the trends move so fast yeah now that it's like you'll be dizzy if you try to keep
up which there was a minute where i was like oh i'll buy this and then now I'm just like no whatever I can't keep up but like
budgeting out loud is very popular of being like vocal about things you can't afford or like how
you're trying to save money and not being embarrassed of that because don't you guys
feel like the last like five ten whatever years it was all about like I've got the Louis Vuitton
and I'm rich and this and that and just showing that that off. That's like icky now, I think.
That's great.
I know.
We need that.
I know.
It's so much better.
We need rap songs about that.
Yes.
About saving money.
Saving $5 almost my yacht and layaway.
I know.
We need Lil Dicky.
We need a Jewish rapper to save us.
Lil Dicky probably already did that.
Now that I think about it.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's interesting that it's cool now had to think about it. Yeah. Okay. That's interesting that they're being there.
It's cool now to be like careful about money.
Yeah.
And how,
because there's no other way we're not going to survive unless we get cool about.
No,
being,
no one has money.
No,
there's no money left.
No.
So these kids are just walking around with like pimple faces talking about how they're poor.
This is what's very cool. Guys, trust me. I'm not trying to sabotage you at all. kids are just walking around with like pimple faces talking about how they're poor yeah this
is what's very cool guys trust me i'm not trying to sabotage you at all young kids love sephora
now like aren't 10 year olds like yes populating sephora now aren't they obsessed with skincare
what's that about okay so this is this is like surprising people which i'm not surprised by this
at all don't you feel like when you buy makeup and skincare, it's just like buying toys?
Polly Pocket.
Yes.
Yes.
Like, of course, the 10-year-olds are going crazy at Sephora.
They're little Barbie accessories.
They're all in a beautiful, girly packaging.
It's made for kids.
Skincare is for kids.
They love opening and closing something,
and there's a little brush that comes with it.
Yes.
It's like little pet shop.
It's totally made for little kids.ibles it's fun like i'm not surprised by this at all and i think
like also for me what got me really into skincare like in the you know 2015 16s was like i got really
bad anxiety when there was all the like mass shootings and stuff and i just felt like oh i
don't want to go out i don't want to do anything and so like watching skincare videos on youtube
became very soothing and this like form of self-care but i personally do not believe in any
of it anymore i just watched a clip of you on whitney's podcast and you don't moisturize i
don't do you lotion your body yes because because i'm part of the problem
because it's like do you it's like chapstick i wouldn't need it if i didn't do it once
so because i believe that one though i don't use chapstick and sometimes i'm a little chapped up
but like i never use chapstick i do believe that you get like your body gets used to it
yeah it needs it like if i if i go i could rid myself of
the need of lotion if i went months without it i do believe that but because i've used it i need
it and my skin will be so flaky and dry and disgusting what what lotion do you use i just
use whatever i i for a while i was on this stuff that smells like medicated because i had like
bumpy skin called emlactin okay and that stuff was really good for like Rosebud Baker
turned me on to that years ago.
But I just use like whatever
I just take hotel lotions
and use those
just body lotion.
And I really just do my legs.
That's where it really needs it.
Arms nuts.
That's how I know
because I don't do anything
to my arms
and my arms are fine.
I wonder if this is
spray tan related.
This is like a spray tan
maintenance thing
that you're doing.
I definitely have to do
lotion for spray tan
but I don't get them
all the time. But do you not like what's your skincare routine for your face?. I definitely have to do lotion for spray tan, but I don't get them all the time.
But do you not like, what's your skincare routine for your face?
And I'm going to ask you the same thing, Brian.
Because Brian, you have amazing skin.
You do have really good skin.
Don't pull on it like that.
Are you 13?
Doesn't he have great skin?
It's like supple.
It has like such a good coloring to it.
There's no blemishes.
It's really good skin.
You have great face skin.
So what do you, Brian, we'll start with you.
What do you do?
I just put moisturizer on it.
What kind?
Keels.
Men love keels.
I know.
I don't know what that is.
Maybe I need that because the moisturizer that I've been using is no longer being made.
I have like three bottles left and it's going to run out.
Okay.
What is it?
It's just like a standard, probably like, I don't know, like Neutrogena.
It might as well be.
Sure.
Some standard, or Olay.
Okay.
Some standard brand that has like nothing in it.
That's like dermatologist approved.
Gotcha.
No scent.
And I put it on my face and it does like probably nothing.
Like night and day?
And do you wear sunscreen?
Only after I shower.
And I just don't go in the sun.
I think that's what it is. Right. I have low i have to take vitamin d pills the doctor said you don't go in
the sun enough yeah i think everyone else i think i think everyone should take vitamin d pills no
i'm special my my doctor said uh i have another thing but that methylfolate i have to take it's
so weird to see like on your thing that like and one vitamin D for the rest of your life.
Just for the rest of your life
as like a supplement
it's just scary.
But yeah,
in the summer
I could take off a little bit
but I don't think so
because I wear SPF too much
it covers it all up.
What do you do
for your skincare?
I'm doing very little right now
because pregnancy
is just like
made me not care
about anything.
Oh, that's so interesting.
All my friends
are not doing anything
that are pregnant
because they're scared
of putting chemicals
in their body
and you're just like
it makes me not care.
They like won't touch any.
They won't.
Really?
They won't wear like Lululemon leggings because there could be plastic in the leggings and
stuff.
Like they're at that level.
Yeah.
I mean, fertility stuff scares every women of a certain age.
Every fetus that gets tested has plastic in it.
Like there's no escaping it.
So I'm just like chill about that.
I am eating fish.
I am also controversially eating sushi.
There's a lot of research that like that's not like basically there's all these rules
about pregnancy and they're just like these really strict rules that no one has like looked
into for a while.
And there's this book Expecting Better by Emily Oster that she kind of like busts the
myths.
So I'm having like- Have you been eating peanut butter yeah why well i believe that parents should eat peanut
butter to give their kids um an immunity to peanut allergies it's not based on no science at all i've
actually heard that but i'm like is that does that mean that like all peanut allergies are just
because mommy didn't crave
peanut butter when i think and you don't and they don't feed the kids peanut butter also and then
they grow up they turn six and they go to kindergarten they're exposed to peanuts for
the first time in their lives and their body's not used to it and they have a reaction i don't
know if that's true or not that's probably a complete anti-science lie but i do believe you
should be eating gobs of peanut butter every day to avoid
if you're a pregnant woman okay yes well we'll get you some on the way up uh what do you what
do you do for skincare normally i'm just very little so i as you know and you were a guest on
i used to host a skincare podcast called glowing up with caroline goldfarb who i know you love and
loves you um and after like five years of just trying every product
reading about researching being obsessed I'm like I don't I the opposite effect happened to me I
don't believe in any of it I think there's like some science that like vitamin c serums are good
for whatever but an SPF obviously but like I almost do next to nothing like I will
maybe like do a little oil cleanser
to get the makeup off the face
maybe even just like wipe it with a toner
or micellar water
maybe an oil if I'm feeling
a little dry but I'm
Nikki I'm so I gotta be
solo maintenance
I hate maintenance
and you're gonna run out of time once you
have the baby it's like all that time runs away i know i just bought one of these solo wave things
that you like oh i have that you're supposed to do like 10 minutes a day and even that i haven't
even done it once and i'm supposed to be doing it every single day okay so i can't do this stuff i
have that and then i was like immediately i'm like why don't i just have a red light mask this i know
now i have to like comb over it.
I know.
So then I just stopped using it.
I never got the red light mask,
but I just.
I had one of those.
I just give them to my sister eventually
and then she doesn't use them
and then she's going to pass them down to her daughter
who won't use them.
But yeah,
I do this.
I just use one serum and that's all I use.
And I wash my face every night
and then I don't wash my face in the morning anymore
because Salma Hayek said she didn't.
So that gave me license to stop washing my face in the morning because you want to have the natural
oils. Agreed. And then just put
an SPF. It's like
so simple. But I do get laser
facials. I do get microneedling.
I do get all that stuff.
Microneedling is the one that I'm very
into. I keep saying I want to do it
because that's the one that seems like it has some scientific
backing. I think they definitely
do. I mean, there are certain celebrities that have amazing, amazing skin tone.
And it's like, it's got to be that stuff.
It's nothing topical.
I just am not buying it.
That's how I feel.
Don't spend any more than $10 on whatever you use on your face.
I think the stuff I use is $8 and I will use it for life.
I'm never going to change.
I know.
Unless it's like, oh, I love the way this smells and how it makes me feel like that's kind of what i'm looking for if there's like a
feel-good experience but i'm with you like i just kind of don't buy into it anymore maybe it's like
our age we've just like seen it all i also think like diet is oh yeah and water which i can't seem
to do that i hate water i know Dry skin starts from within. Yes.
That's the thing that people say.
If there's anything we've learned here today,
it's like it's what's inside that counts.
Yeah.
To make your outside great.
I went to the dermatologist today.
No way.
Right before I got here.
I go yearly to get checked,
everything checked out.
Did they say you had great face skin?
Well, it's just interesting.
No.
It's just interesting.
When you go to the dermatologist,
they just go over your body and they point out
all the things that are wrong with it.
They go like, oh, you got a rash. You got a mole there.
You're washing your
hands too much. You need to use a different
shampoo.
There's so many new growths that show up
as you age.
I have a skin tag on my thigh that I just like
pulling at. I don't even want it to go away. I like it. have a skin tag on my thigh that I just like pulling at.
And I don't even want it to go away.
I like it.
When I'm stressed out in bed,
I just play with it.
It's not a skin tag.
It's like a little... It's not...
I shouldn't have said that,
but it's gross.
But it's International Women's Day,
so I feel free that I can talk about it
because I do believe it's a female skin tag.
But it's just like spots overnight.
And then you took a picture of me at the game
where I'm like with binoculars
and I see these three lumps on the side of my face little bumps and i go i
gotta go to the dermatologist to like i don't want those anymore and i just never even thought to go
to the dermatologist i just go to a esthetician i never thought like i should go and get the like
health of my skin checked out not just the aesthetics well this is gotta go in la though
you go to the dermatologist and
it's not like how it was back in the midwest they're like now would you like to see what we
could do to inject you and like i'm like i didn't ask for that like this is this is supposed to be
a doctor i know so it's all the same with this voice okay Okay. That's good to know. But one time I went, I had this rash on my stomach and not to brag.
And I went to the dermatologist and she's like looking at my stomach and she's like,
oh, this looks like secondary syphilis.
What the fuck?
And I was like, I have an STD that I missed the whole first round of it.
And I'm on to the second round i was so
freaked out it wasn't that but like there was a day where i was like i i'm wow i'm living a dumpster
life was it true no it wasn't that it was just literally like nothing so rude what a thing to
say you don't even have the the original version no i know the sequel. The sequel. And you're so, so I just missed a whole version.
Um,
I love you so much,
Esther.
Thank you for being here for this special show.
I mentioned at the start of the show,
this is the Nikki laser podcast,
and we are a part of the international women's day celebration this week.
And for the more programming honoring the incredible women at the network and
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Take the mic wherever
you look for your podcasts we are feature alongside um such shows as Dear Chelsea you know that Chelsea
Handler show and very special episodes with Dana Schwartz that's women take the mic on the iHeart
radio app or wherever you get your podcasts Esther um I love you so much thank you for coming on
eight months pregnant when I asked you to be here, I was like, there's no way.
And you said yes, and you drove all the way here, and I love you so much for it.
Thank you, and I'm so sad that you're going to be out of town for my movie premiere.
I know.
Oh, my God.
Can we talk about that?
You have a new movie coming out called Drugstore June.
Which we tried to get you in, but you were busy on tour.
I know you offered me a role, but you asked me in the next one.
I would love to.
I can't wait to see this.
You've got to check out the trailer for Drugstore June, Esther's new movie coming out.
When is it coming out, and where can people find it? Because I cannot wait to see this. You got to check out the trailer for Drugstore June. Esther's new movie coming out. When is it coming out and where can people find it?
Because I cannot wait to see this.
Select Theater, February 23rd.
That's cool.
Expanding Cities, March 1st.
It's my birthday.
Mine's March 2nd.
Oh my gosh.
But yeah, I'm really excited for people to see it.
I know you'll love it.
I know I will.
Also, when you were on my show alone together, it was the best day of my life.
You're such a funny actress
Like I'm gonna make you
Be like a movie star
Like you
I know you never wanna
Do stuff
Cause you're just like
You just wanna be you
You made me feel so good
That day
Because you are such
A naturally amazing actress
I can't wait to see you in this
Her improv is so good
And thank you for asking me
To be in your movie
That was so nice
I wish I could've made
That day work
Because I can't wait
To see the movie.
The next one.
Whatever I'm doing next year, I'm going to plan it.
Can we write a movie together?
I just want to work with you all the time.
Yes.
Let's actually talk about that.
We're going to start that right now.
All right, guys.
Thank you for listening to the podcast.
Don't be cute, and we'll see you next time.
Bye.
Bye.
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