The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #455 Dan St. Germain HERE! Poly A.I., Free Time, Goals of the Day, Gift from J.Lo

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

Nikki and Brian are joined by the hilarious Dan St. Germain (Dance Fatty, Dance! on YouTube). They discuss movies of evil A.I. and technology, it turns out they just might be polyamorous. Nikki had a podcast appearance cancel and she now has free time. What will she do with it? The three talk about "goals of the day" and how amazing it feels to cross those things off the list. Final thought: Nikki got a gift from J.Lo. Also, did she just do a call back from one of Nikki's specials?! Subscribe to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts to get this episode ad-free, and get exclusive bonus content: https://apple.co/nikkiglaserpodcast  Watch this episode on our Youtube Channel: The Nikki Glaser Podcast Follow the pod on Instagram for bonus content: @NikkiGlaserPod Leave us your voicemail: Click Here To Record Nikki's Tour Dates: nikkiglaser.com/tour Brian’s Animations: youtube.com/@BrianFrange More Nikki: IGSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's a great new week of the show. This is a very exciting episode. Brian Frangie is here. What's up, Brian? What's up? I don't know. Nothing. I mean, there's so many things going on. There's so many things going on in the country right now. But other than that... So many. I mean, it's pretty wild this is a historic

time and i don't think we'll ever live through something quite as tumultuous i saw a good meme about like how this is going to be the hardest part of the ap like gov exam in 2052 or whatever like this is going to be the one that's we'll really get. Yeah. No, I think about that. Like that there's going to be students 10 years from now who are going to have to like learn about nine 11. Oh, like they're not teaching it yet. You don't think, I mean,

no, I don't think so. They're still trying to cover it up, but I think 10 years from now when things get more free, I think, I think it's just my favorite day. That would be my favorite day that would be my favorite week of school is the day we learn about 9-11

let's get speaking of 9-11 let's get our building 7 into this conversation he is one of the funniest people I know he and we had a podcast together with Brian Frangie it was my second podcast

of my life and this is i think my fifth but um he is so funny he has a special on youtube and i didn't look up the name dan i'm so sorry dance fatty dance dance fatty dance how could you forget that it's dan saint germain everyone hello we had a podcast all three of us back in the day Holy good It was also called Dance Fatty Dance It was Dance Fatty Dance with Nikki Glaser It was Nikki's 300 pound period

No one remembers She was quite a big girl then Yeah we were We all worked on Not Safe Which is the show that I hosted on Comedy Central And we had the Not Safe podcast Which was the companion podcast to the show that i hosted on comedy central and um and we had the not safe podcast which was the companion podcast to the show uh that's when shows were a bigger deal than podcasts yeah soon you're gonna have to be like um you get a show with the podcast that's so crazy

you're on this network called comedy central you know like it's it's getting to that point do you know that comedy central has three shows? I think, Brian, you were the one that told me that. They've got four shows. Daily Show, South Park, Awkwafina, and one other. Yeah, and it's a cartoon called Dig Man. Awkwafina's still around? Yeah.

Well, not really. Not yet. But that's still one of their shows, technically, because it's not canceled. Yeah. But, no, Comedy Central is going extinct. And they've, I mean, probably out of all the channels on cable, they're the ones who sacrificed the most collateral that they had out of any channel. Because they were, they owned comedy. And somehow they just gave it up.

They just decided we're not going to do anything anymore and let Netflix and, and Amazon. It's not like they didn't try. Like, where did it fail? You think? I think they stopped trying. They stopped developing shows. They stopped investing in comedy.

They stopped doing standup specials. They stopped. But is this just, okay, this is what, whenever a business starts to go bad, right. And things happen.

I always just look to like the people working there weren't being paid enough to like be passionate about it to make it work. Like, isn't that really the underlying issue with everything? When something's like you go to a restaurant, you're like, it sucks. It's like, they're not paying people enough. So it should suck. Is that the issue? That's part of the issue. But I also point to leadership. I think we know from not safe that Viacom never looked toward the internet for any reason if you recall not safe wouldn't go on hulu for like three months until after it aired there was and we they're very limited and what you could put on youtube they had no respect for the internet and i think that ultimately is the thing that because they were the also the latest

to the game to get a streamer, to get close to a streamer. God, I relate, though. I relate to, like, resisting everything that the new people are doing and hoping that it's a fad that, like, passes. Or that somehow you'll, like, survive it. You'll be the one who doesn't do it. And so that makes you stand out. But then you just ultimately give in and start a TikTok. Yeah, that's exactly what I did.

I mean, you just got to give in eventually. And then it gets banned, and you're like, why did I even try? I mean, Dan, are you on TikTok? I am, but my social media is at such a ceiling. It's like 21K Instagram, 5,500 TikTok. Let's get that up. Yeah, follow me to 22, to 22 to negative 30 today he won't lose 50 followers to lose 30 um no it's um yeah you hit a ceiling and then like are you trying though do you like did you hire people like i mean i can't afford anyone to hire but i do three videos a week and i whoa wow like i uh cut up all my stuff I just realized that this was recording

our entire pod so in script so oh god all of our podcasts was on my iPhone right now I love when it does that and then you look back and see what you're really how you're speaking and um why is it that um when you do speak into your phone to leave a text like they throw in commas everywhere they're just so comma heavy no I don't know i mean it's all demented i did see a preview for a horror movie saturday that was like what if it was an eagle evil alexis alexa and i was like how did it take too long to figure that out you know isn't that just like 2001 that's how or or the one where scarlett johansson's the voice well she's not evil that was great.

I think she kind of turns. I think she gets jealous or something. Oh, she does? I don't really remember what happened. There's got to be a turn. It's a movie. I just remember Joaquin Phoenix wanting to fuck that robot. Do you want me to spoil the whole thing?

Yeah, please. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one's... The ending of it, he realizes, because, you know, she's AI, at the end of it, he realizes that he's in love with her but so are like 22 000 other people yeah the deal is that like she's been doing this with a bunch of people at the same time it's like dating tristan thompson realizing there's so many girls who feel the same way about this person i that's like being a sister wife though like i i

think you'd make peace with it you'd you'd convince yourself i have a different like relationship i don't know i'm kind of like i i think i could get on board with every like i share taylor swift with everyone and i feel like you always have said that though that you think you could be in i don't know if it's polyamory or it's competitive and I would win. I always thought I wasn't competitive, but man, am I one of the most competitive people alive? You cannot do as well as you've done in comedy without having a little bit of I always just thought it was such a bad thing to be. But now I'm tapping into it like I never whenever I worked out, I always hired trainers because

I was like, I don't want to feel like insecure next to other. I don't want to go to classes. I always was like, I'll never do a class because I just don't want to feel insecure next to other. I don't want to go to classes. I always was like, I'll never do a class because I just don't want to feel pressure to do better than the other girls next to me. Equals, Nikki, you're competitive. Why would that even be a problem? But then when I get in there, I do so much better because of that.

So I'm just kind of leaning into it. I got to find ways to be more competitive even though it seems to have a negative connotation. You're tapping into drives you as a three as an enneagram three yeah that's right surrounded by people watching you succeed is uh is the key to your drive yeah i wish i could be like anya like the one night i asked anya like why do you if you're not a three because i was just so confused how an artist could not be an Enneagram three which Dan that means like the the reason you feel valued is if you are important and people are like wow you're good at this thing like that's how that's what drives your whole life is generally whatever your parents instilled in you is important yeah you will weird form of narcissism yeah and so

I'm like oh all artists must be threes because why would you do this otherwise so I'm like, oh, all artists must be threes. Because why would you do this otherwise? Because I'm just like thinking from my own perspective of like, yeah, there's probably like 10 percent of me that's like I have something to say and I want to put it out there and like make people feel less alone. Yeah, that's a part of it. But it's I think it's mainly like is my life worth anything? Like and why am I here? No, yeah, you're not. The alternative is I have to have kids or some shit, and I don't want to do that. So I'd rather just. It's really hard. I think with sports, sometimes you can have somebody who's just naturally super gifted and doesn't and isn't competitive.

Like the guy who was on the Dolphins, like Ricky Henderson, I think his name is. He kept like. He kept like getting kicked out of the league because he smoked weed. weed oh because he just wasn't like he didn't care about staying in but he was an amazing athlete like it was one of those things where it's like I do think that that can happen with Ricky Williams stand up because like almost like how many savants have you known in stand up it's not a thing I mean chappelle yeah yeah one or two and and carlin but even carlin worked so fucking hard and chappelle works hard too i don't really know what his method is but i'm dying to know at some point um you're right like i was thinking about

stand-ups the only thing that i there aren't that many people that are just like born gifted i think that talent as we all know is like half just like a gift and then the other half is usually hard work or more than half. That's why stand up is like the most beautiful art form. It's because no matter how gifted you are, there's no good child who does stand up. Yeah. You can't be a funny child stand up comedian. That's why I like it too. Yeah, you can't start early. So everyone kind of starts as an adult, which any other art you decide to pursue in life, if you started as an adult,

you are way behind. You're fucked. Because you didn't have a parent that directed you earlier where you're going to get those 10,000 hours so much faster. Yeah, we all kind of started the same. Even like with stand-up,

I started at 18 and people were like, oh my God, so jealous. You started so young. And I was like, yes, I'm so glad I got those extra four years or whatever it was that it took other people. It's so crucial. Yeah. Were you nervous when you first started, Nikki?

Was I what? Were you nervous when you got on stage or no? No, I mean, I was, I overcame my stage fright when I was in seventh grade because I knew that I wanted to be on TV. And that was the only thing that I cared about or like being famous. And so I had really bad stage fright, but I just was like, you like, there's not a choice. Like, you just have to overcome it. So I just signed up for a play. And and prior to that, though, I would have to like give presentations during recess for my teacher alone,

because I would just shake in front of the class so visibly that i would like it was it was terrible it was yeah it was like a i felt like a handicap that i had to like get over to do what i wanted to do and i just had to do it but by the time i was doing stand-up i mean yeah i still get nervous do you guys still get nervous i mean it just is manifests in different ways i guess guess. You know, I think it's, you know what I was thinking? I was hanging out, I went to a movie with Ari Shafir on Saturday, and he was talking about, like, I think he's moving to another city. And, like, that would scare me.

Like, he's moving to another country. And that would scare me to, like, start doing stand-up in, like, fucking England or something. Like, that would be a curse on here, right? Yeah. fucking england or something like that what occurs on here right yeah yeah and uh yeah so that would be like like like truly fish out of water that would be that would be kind of nerve-wracking why no no it shouldn't be because you're amazing and you're gonna show up on a scene where everyone is gonna anyone new on a scene people go this guy sucks and then you don't suck and so that's like a setup for like being especially at our level like the top dog on a new scene I think that would be not intimidating

but I just get nervous when I'm not prepared but I am not prepared 90% of the time and I think that if I'm prepared like for the roast I was not nervous I was calm I was only nervous because of the Kevin Hart joke that he had done that was like my joke. That was the only thing that I was like, ugh. But I was like so calm because I had just done that set a million times and there was no way that I was gonna fuck it up. Cause I felt so prepared.

But if I'm like going into something where I'm like, yeah, I think I'll remember to say that line. And I'll like, I just, even this weekend, like I've been trying to do some like old like roast jokes that didn't make it like in my set and um I saw a picture of myself on stage with my phone like reading the roast jokes and I was like that's not a good look unless you're at the show it looks like I'm just like looking in my notes at this theater show so I was like okay I gotta memorize the roast joke I have to memorize a new roast set

and just having that in my back pocket even though I didn't even remember to do it I was like I prepared and I memorized something beforehand I went into shows this weekend so much more confident but it's like I'm so rarely memorized and prepared I I really I set my I don't do that for myself uh enough do you do you guys relate to that? I mean, I just, you know, I have no, like, if, my problem is I write a lot of stand-up, but, like, if it doesn't work once, I usually throw it out. When do you write stand-up?

What are you doing? I usually do Monday. Mondays or Tuesdays, I'll write two pages, single space, Times New Roman. And is it all funny? Are you, like, writing? No. Of course it's not all funny, but are writing like stuff that is intentionally like not funny are you kind of trying to adapt it to a stand-up voice the week i'll try to like write down premises like if i get an idea and then i know okay on monday you go on really you should write i mean i anyone who's

listening wants to comedy you should write it out immediately because sometimes then you get back to it and you're like well i don't know how to say this yeah well okay that's but i'm also i'm but i that's the way i do it and i'm way less prolific as a stand-up than you so it's like i i don't know whatever way you're doing it i just go on stage all the time right every single fucking night i mean i mean i don't go as much as you but i I go on a lot. And I've only done, you know, two. Well, part of it, too, is no one's paid me to do it. Yeah, and you're doing spots for 15 minutes. You know, like you're doing – I'm doing hours every weekend.

It's like it just affords you more opportunity to fill up the space with something and play around. Yeah. But I saw – I was watching this – there's like this new documentary on Netflix about receivers, like football receivers. I saw that. I saw the beginning of the first one. It's good. I liked it a lot. Those guys do a good job. Yeah, so it's.

The quarterback's one too. I got to watch all of it because I'm just trying to get into football more and more. The quarterback one's hilarious because it's just, you would love this one part of it, Nikki, because it's just Patrick Mahomes being miserable to be with his family. more and more. morose sorrow in his eye for having to like run with his kids around on this crew because all that guy wants to be doing is playing football and getting drunk i mean like every conversation that guy has is just like football football drinking well it was the opposite on the receivers one because the guy had a baby and now he plays better i forgot his name. Debo. Debo Samuel. He's amazing. But there was one guy I forget his name. Damn it. But he plays

for the Lions. He's a receiver. Amon Ross St. Brown. Maybe him. Yeah, St. Brown. His dad was like Mr. Universe like two times in a row. And so he instilled in... Got him started early like there's footage of him as a young kid being like we're gonna make it to the nfl you know like

this was the goal and um but they continue to kind of like live like that like there was a they went to a family dinner the night before a game and um his dad was like so what are your goals for tomorrow son and his he was like well two touchdowns he goes that should be able to happen if that that's that's gonna be an easy goal and i was like well two touchdowns he goes that should be able to happen if that that's that's going to be an easy goal and I was like that's very interesting to ask your goals for tomorrow like just ask someone their goals for like the day and I was like I'm gonna do that like I'm gonna tomorrow I'm gonna goal it out so this morning I like wrote goals down um because I don't like big picture goals but like for the day i mean it's

basically a to-do list have you heard of them people do them all the time i've never i maybe i've done daily goals that will lead you to a larger goal ultimately yeah yes i do every week i have a list of stuff really yeah i try to do it although but it doesn't like working out. Now it gets crossed off that list. I do what I want to do still. And I wind up, I wind up spending more time writing the list than doing the things on the list. Oh yeah. Every day.

I'm like, I got to do my to-do list. And then I check that off my to-do list just to write a to-do list. How do you get through when you're truly paralyzed? Like, you know, you need to do something and you are just like, I can't, I don't want to. I just, do you just not do it? Or like, how do you push past that?

Because I don't think I have, unless there's like a deadline and people are gonna be severely disappointed in me, I will weasel out of just about anything. Well, it depends what it is, but one method that psychologists say works is the five minute rule where you say, I'll just work on this for five minutes and that's all. And then usually

that tricks you into being like, oh, now that I've worked on it for five minutes, I can work on it for 10 minutes. But usually for me, I work on it for five minutes and I say like, I didn't, it was useless. Yeah. Even the five minutes I did was useless. And then I stopped. Yeah. I, i i i've got some of my goals done today and man the best thing happened i was supposed to do a podcast appearance at like four o'clock and it canceled and that never happens but man that was 4 a.m right 4 p.m 4 p.m what kind of yeah barry's new podcast in whatever country he's living in. David Goggins?

Who is that? We do podcasts at 4 a.m., Nikki. Get that shit tight. I just am so excited that this hour opened up in my day. More room for my goals, man. So what'd you do? What'd you fill it with? Well, I haven't, I don't know yet. Oh, it hasn't?

You haven't experienced that yet? Well, the thing is chris was supposed to be out because i was going to do the podcast for my kitchen because it's like a nice background it kind of fits in with the rest of the aesthetic of their podcast and i was like chris be out for four between 4 and 5 15 and i gotta be honest i haven't told him it's canceled yet because i'm like what am i gonna do with that like i can just do anything and not that i need him he would go anywhere anytime but um i am excited about this free space in my life that's opening up even though the rest of my day is free by the way i'm not like there's nothing i have to do after this podcast but now like just that one thing that block was kind of like hanging over me um and now i remember nikki

when you like it was like there was like a pin pin on Chris's phone that you had and you like want it. And he didn't know that you had it. Yeah. We're like checking out where he went, but it was like every day it was little Caesars. It was just like work and little Caesars. Work and little Caesars and maybe Home Depot sometimes. Yeah. It was just when Find My Friends was coming out and someone told me about it.

We were all at this like long table at dinner after a show. And I go, Chris, except what I just sent you. And he just blindly is in conversation with someone just accepts it. And I'm like tracking him. And then I like tracked him for so long. And I would like plan being gross around when he was like gone.

It was, it was really worked out, but now we don't track each other anymore. I just feel like, I know that he's just not into that even though i do want to know all the time like how long i have even though i'm not doing anything bad you have the pizza tracker now and that's all you really need yeah that's he doesn't yeah it's yeah or because the little caesars call back i get it i get it um not even that? The thing is, I was a little confused because I'm such a fat guy. I'm like, little Caesar.

Yeah, well, that's a Pizza Hut. Pizza Hut does pizza trackers. I can see how that could be confusing. All right. We're going to go to break and we're going to come back with more Dancing Germain. He has a YouTube comedy special out that is so fucking funny. I did watch it, Dan. I watched like three-fourths of it, which is like a lot for me and i think i only quit because i got distracted not because i watched yours too yours

was great he was so nice about it i was yeah i mean like i thought as far as specials it was like you and dan and i thought collins was really good too but that was it was man that was nice well i am nominated for an emmy we'll talk about that when we get back. You did do good, man. Yeah, I forgot about that. After Dan stops talking. Ah! Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show, which means he's also back in our ears on The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. The Daily Show podcast has everything you need to stay on top of today's news and pop

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That was really nice of you to say that about my special. Yeah, I liked your special a lot too. It's called Run Fatty Run. Is that it? Dance. No, no, no. Run Fatty Run is what you should be doing. um run fatty run is that it dance where did you film this special

brooklyn comedy club old man hustle but i think that they're closing down yeah i was confused by the signage in the background i was like it's his special called old man hustle because it's like a prominent sign well i was so like uh you know i went on marion my man the first thing marion goes was it like unfinished i'm like no it wasn't unfinished all right all right well you're very active wherever you are uh dan moving around a lot i know i move around a lot yeah um it's your thing yeah i move around a lot. Yeah. It's your thing. Yeah.

I move around a lot. I might go St. Bolt, but fat. Where were you guys this weekend when the when the news dropped? About Biden. I was on a lovely little excursion to City Island with my wife. Cute. What's that?

What is that? What do you what's City Island? It's I guess it's off this. Cute. What's that? What is that? What's City Island? I guess it's off the... It's in New York. It's like off the city, but it's like next time in New York, if you're looking for a day trip in the summer, they have all little lobster shacks. And what do you do? What do you do when you just walk with the dog on the island?

Yeah, just... Well, we went to a dog park first, and we went to a park, and we walked with that. And then we, you know. Is City Island different than Governor's Island, or is it a rebranded Governor's Island? Governor's Island, I think, is different, because Governor's Island, there's no cars on it. You have to take a ferry to get there? Yeah. Okay.

You have to drive to City Island. When you're just hanging out with your wife all day, both of you, like, who's doing most of the talking? Well, my wife, 100%. What? Really? And I talk a lot, but, like, in every relationship I've had before this, I was the talker, but my wife talks way more than me. Okay. And are you listening? Do you like that?

Not all the time. Yeah. But I like the, you know what, I never have to fucking worry about, you know, this is what I love my wife is, even if I get annoyed, if she's, like, sometimes, you know, every relationship you need a break. Like, I've never had to play the game when i've dated other girls of like oh god is she pissed what did that mean why is she white you know like she's not my wife like all immediately one time i was like are you annoyed she was yeah you know what i am a little fucking pissed okay yes it's the best no exactly and so i'd rather have that because yeah sometimes

i'm a little more passive-aggressive and my wife has to like figure me out there's nothing worse than than someone who you know isn't like mad about something who won't admit it and is just like trying to is just being passive-aggressive about it it's it's like it's such a prison and it is nice when someone is just so transparent and like can say it right away chris and i have like worked really hard to say immediately when something is like bothering us we've gotten pretty good at it like to the point that i think before i used to always worry if something i said like if his mood would change a little bit and now i'm like hell just i think i trust him just to tell me now and so i don't like panic as much but um i don't know what he'd say for if I talk to him.

He'd probably say that I talk way more than he does. But they're like, Brian, what about you and Ali? Who's doing most of the talking? Definitely me. I mean, I frequently will just be like pacing back and forth in the living room while she sits on the couch and listens to my like seminar. And she calls them seminars. Now, will she be able to be on her phone during this? Like,

I want to know the vibe of like, and same with you, Dan, are you able to be on your phone? Like half listening? Like, cause my partner does not care if I'm like multitasking, listening to him.

And I'm so grateful for that. It just depends on the situation. Like Friday night, I made us put our, our phones down. I mean, I don't know, Saturday night.

Cause we, we watched a movie I love and I was like, we have to put our phones down. What movie? No Country for Old Men. Oh, yeah. Right, and I was like,

this one is not a phone movie, you know? But for the most part, I'm fine with it. I only know that movie from the Wikipedia. It was too scary for me to watch so I've read the plot a lot

in Wikipedia and I don't, it's not, Wikipedia plots, they need some help, people. Get in there. Yeah. Help out.

They are really, I think they're, they're, they're not, I can't follow it enough. And it's, um, Wikipedia is really good for describing historical events,

which is similar to a plot is Wikipedia is good at that. So it's not good at regular plots. And it's also, by the way, awful. If anyone looks up Wikipedia for medical advice or to explain a disease, it's, that the way awful if anyone looks up wikipedia for medical advice or to explain a disease it's that might be the worst place to i'd rather you go to cura whatever however you say that oh yeah then go to wikipedia where every answer is an ad yeah yeah that website makes

no sense and no sense you know on cura where you you Google a question and the Cura thing pops up. First of all, the name we can't even get right. We can't even say the name. That's not even sticky. I hate it. Okay. So yeah. Okay. So you ask a question.

And then you go down and then there's more questions that you're like, I'm interested in these questions. And then you click on the question. But for the answer. And then you click on the question and it goes, you need to sign up if you want to read the answer to these questions. It'll be a question and then there will be no answer. There'll be more questions with commentary,

but no answer. I'm like, isn't this the point of this website is to have a question and then like crowdsource answers. I don't get it. It's a mess. Shitty Reddit. Are you,

what about you? Is Allie allowed to be on her phone when you're, I, I have, I have been annoyed by her going on her phone during a conversation before and pointed it out. And then she generally I mean, it's just it just depends on the situation. Like sometimes I'll just like come in guns blazing while she's like working. And I'll be like, and then they said this.

And she's like, I don't even know what you're talking about. I'm trying to write a work email. And those instances I can see how I'm wrong. But then sometimes we're like we just like went to dinner and we're having a conversation and she doesn't go on her phone, but she'll be interested in something else and then point it out. I'll be talking to her about,

yeah, I'm having this problem with, I can't get an appointment with the doctor. And she'll go, a full moon. And I'll be like, I'm talking to you about the doctor. And she'll be like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And then I'll be like, yeah. And then the doctor goes like that. And then she'll be like i'm talking to you about the doctor and she's like oh i'm sorry i'm sorry and they'll be like yeah and then the doctor goes like that and then and then she's like oh my god a bug and i'm like ally can we just can you respond to what i'm saying so sometimes that happens i feel really bad for people who have no one but their partner to talk to because a partner can't handle all of that and i know both of you are pretty good about having friendships yes but there are some dudes

out there and women with no one but their partner to bitch about their life too yeah you gotta try like you gotta like you know one of the things that i've been this is so sad nikki but like okay next time i see you nikki and like if we go to coffee or dinner right and just hang out yeah i will then i have a 2024 list i will write that hangout down just prove that i have some social life yeah like okay i did a family reunion this because i have like the things that i need to do for the year but then i'll be like okay but i also did this socially to know that i hung out and i'm not just was this always a thing for you that you were tracking your social hangout years last couple i'm very i'm ocd and it's like the one thing about my ocd is that i make my make

lists a lot i used to get like this was the stoop like when i was like smoking shit loads of weed during covid i would be like oh i'm gonna write down all the movies i've ever seen sure like high as fuck just writing down every movie i could think of that I saw it. I'm like, who is this for? What? Yeah. Lists feel good to make for some reason they're satisfying, but I I'm wondering about this, like tracking your hangouts. So this was something that you were like, I'm having a deficit in my life of like social hangs because do you not live by people that you,

I think that it's very, it's very simple. It's very easy. And this is for all of us. And Brian, I know how much standup you're doing right now, but like if, when you're doing a lot of standup and you, your whole fucking thing is to be around people every night, when you have a night off, your thing is, thank God I can just be home with my wife. Um, so I try to, and I still,

usually when I don't have shows, I don't want to go out, but like, you know, it's like, all right, tomorrow night I'm going to try to, you know, get dinner with fucking DeStefano before my show. You know what I mean? Like I try to do stuff like that. Um, but like, yeah, it's, it's tough, man, because, uh, I'm a, I'm an isolator, you know, I'm very, I'm like a, I'm like a introvert and extrovert clothing, you know? So, um, yeah, that's kind yeah yeah but you know that it makes you feel better when you hang out with people so you're forcing yourself to do it and you gotta make your little list you gotta put a picture it's the right person sometimes i'll hang out with a friend and i'm like oh i think i feel way worse yeah i it just sucks when you fall into a habit of like

oh i just like to hang out with my dog and chris and that's all i want to do is just watch tv on the couch and not do anything like last night chris went to hang out with my dog and Chris. And that's all I want to do is just watch TV on the couch and not do anything. Like, last night Chris went to a concert, Mates of State. And I was going to go, but I had just gotten back in town. And I'm like, I think I just want to stay in. And then the whole time I'm home, I'm just, like, regretting that I didn't go out and support live music. And that I was, then, you know, I didn't really get anything done. Are you a controversy person anymore besides Taylor Swift, though?

Like, do you want to go to fucking Terminal 5 and wait until Evan's on the band? No, I want to go late and just see a couple songs and just get a sense of the performance and maybe learn something about what I should do on stage or how I should be with my fans.

Try to glean something from the performance aspect of it, especially since I'm trying to do music. huh so you do that who who who are the musicians that you're like oh okay i can i mean taylor swift's the one that obviously i've seen 60 hours of in the last 15 months so it's like i've studied her more than anyone it's probably rubbing off on me i hope a little bit but um i think you can learn something from anyone like even my dad I go see him every Wednesday night um at the pasta house in St. Louis on uh uh Woodlawn Road in Kirkwood yeah my dad plays he does like every Wednesday plays in this like kind of um atrium place and then a lot of times my mom and me and chris and his family and maybe my mom's two friends

are the only audience but we just watch my dad play for like five people and i'm like this is all we could talk during it because we don't respect him you know and and his art so we we just like talk and my dad plays over it but my dad gets also also play and we have moments and we clap after every song so it's like it's so fun but But I learned stuff from him, too, of just, yeah. What a wholesome, cherished memory that will be. It's my favorite thing. I almost don't even want to say on the podcast because I don't want too many people going to it. And I don't want it to turn into something where I have to, like, be something I'm not because I just want to go and, like, eat salad and fried portobellos and just listen to my dad.

But it's so wholesome. It's like, it will be the thing. Chris and I had a moment where we were like, these are the nights because our families are all there. The kids are there. Our nieces and nephews

are all playing and running around. And we're like, these are the nights we'll think back on and be like, man, we really had it all. It's weird to be living in that.

And yeah, it's my favorite thing. But yeah, I want to go see more. You know what? I want to watch more standup. That's why i put that's why i watched your special dan i was like looking for people who i admire and who are such great writers to like inspire me and so i'm trying to watch more stand-up i was with spade this weekend in at the venetian which was he was so fucking funny i can't even believe it and it by the end of the week i was

yeah so i opened the show because i don't want to follow that and i just want to enjoy his set without thinking about mine so it's just perfect i bring him up and then i just sit back and laugh but man it it does rub off on me like i am kind of a sponge when it comes to things i admire and i start kind of I don't steal there I don't plan on doing it but it like I start kind of talking a little spade like and like kind of make it like it it happens naturally if I surround myself I have to saturate myself in it so I've been trying to watch more um stand up and I want to go see more stand up and force myself but I'm not going to see more stand-up.

I might watch it at home, a clip here and there. I give specials like six minutes and then I ditch out. I think that's fine, though. I mean, because Spade and you are so different, are different enough that whatever you take from him is going to be enough of a spin. Like, if I spent all day only watching like kyle canane and mike lawrence yeah i would be nervous too close to what you do it was too close i would probably or pat or something like that pat and i are actually a lot different but like if i'm watching

like that's why i like love watching people like earthquake do you know what i mean totally because you will pick up something set this up well no earthquake actually stole my essence so i'm pretty pissed about that yeah i remember that you were uh you were first earthquake you were yeah well do you guys like i'm guessing everyone feels this way he was an aftershock you gotta steal essences and and and not intentionally by the way but like i was watching chad daniels's special last night yes which is really funny it's on netflix forget the name of it but i think it's his first Netflix special. So funny. Empty Nestor.

Empty Nestor. Thank you. Chad Daniels. Check that out. Yeah, I gotta check that one out. Great guy. He's such a great guy. And also, I was telling Chris,

he's like the comedian that ever, he's a comedian's comedian. Like comedians know he's like one of the best, certainly out of the Midwest and like has stayed in the Midwest on purpose. But anyway, he's so funny. And I was watching his thing and I was like, oh my God, I remember a time where every comedian that I knew

was trying to sound like Chad Daniels. And even me probably. Dude, Midwest, you guys, like there was like, there's a, he may be, I guess Shane is probably the most influential now because everyone's doing the same thing with the mic. Oh my God, they're all doing the clasp in the hands. You're right.

Oh yeah. Yes. Oh man, I didn't even notice that um oh yeah they do it people do it a lot um but like but chad daniels has inspired there's a midwest great comedy writer and i would like put that put you in there i'd put like greg warren in there i would put tommy johnigan in there but it's a very like, Hey, let's, I I'm comfortable on stage, but let's lean with fucking good. Let's lead with good jokes first. Yeah.

And make this shit layered. And I feel like, yeah, he's, he's, he's like, that's like the Midwest. And,

and, and ideally Midwest, my favorite audiences too, because there's nothing to fucking do there. So you have to see Sam. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah.

I never even thought about it that way, but yeah, I was talking to someone about the Kansas city city comedy scene this uh mike breidenstein right oh yeah yeah i know mike why am i saying his name weirdly i don't i didn't have much confidence in that but i love mike and he was he's writing a book about the kansas city comedy scene and he's like this is the craziest club i've ever heard about in all of my like research of comedy the stanford and sons which is the club i started at run by craig glazer it's legendary and it was it made me feel

pretty good he's like you started in the most insane time it with the most insane club owners in the most toxic environment i'm like i really did i didn't realize it wasn't like that everywhere. Dude, when I did that Sanford Sun weekend, if you guys don't know, Sanford Sun was run by two brothers, one a heroin addict, one a coke head. And the coke head picked me up, dropped an N-bomb immediately. Immediately.

I said the same thing on this. Oh, that was my first time ever hearing the N-word from a white person. Like, honestly, I've never like where I was like, oh, you think this is OK to say? And I remember I felt horrible because I didn't say like, hey, don't say that. But I was like 24 and just eager for the gig. But I remember that was Craig Glazer was the first one to. Yeah.

The ghost of Martin Luther King could come down to that guy and be like, sir, you need to look deeper. And he would still say the N word. But he, I remember his whole thing. He's like his rationing for me. He's like, I am allowed to say the, I'm allowed to say the N word,

man, because I'm dating this black stripper. Yeah. He was always dating a black stripper. Yeah. Yeah. And would drive you around his little car, loved spending time with comedians.

You had to put in so much time with him. And then as the club named after the show yeah i think which is like a black show but it but it was a play on the show because his dad's name was stan stanford and so it's not stanford and says it's stanford and sons yeah if you ever want to if you ever want to see a social media reaction of someone in comedy dying and no one giving a shit oh it was that that guy died and it was like just a roast of him for like three days straight on twitter yeah i don't have money too he owes me 250 bucks so yeah he he owed a lot of people money he was really nice to me and like when i was in the kansas city scene he took me out and got me on radio for the first time and,

and got me all, you know, these spots never paid me for anything that I did, but you know, and, and build me as he would like put up posters to promote weekends. I was emceeing as like, I'm the next Ellen DeGeneres,

which is so misleading. Um, except that I will come out as gay someday, but, um, yeah, like not true. Yeah.

No, nothing about us except we have blonde hair and we're white yeah it was um and so but yeah he helped me out a lot but he was um not a but get this so he forever was talking about selling a script you probably heard about it when you were there right like he wrote a book called the king of sting about his coming up in as a he would like propose as a cop doing stings and then rob people is essentially what he would do for years and years in his 20s. And he wrote a whole book about it. And then he sold the script and Clint Eastwood was going to make it. And it was always this like Brad Pitt's attached. And it was always falling through.

And it was kind of like, what is this even? This was before we could really have proof of anything happening. But he dies. And then like two months later, the script is optioned. And it is being made. And it's being made by someone who's really, I forget who's making it, but someone who's done some shit. It's going to be like a real movie that this guy his whole life lied about. Almost like lied and just like tried to get it made so much.

So he wrote it? And apparently the script kind of, because I I go I said to Mike, I go, are they going to say this is a real story? Because people were kind of calling the book bullshit. And it's just kind of going to be presented as like it's going to start out with Craig Glazer on the radio saying like it's a true story. And people being like, yeah, right. And he's like, it all happened. And so it's going to end the title card is like this. it's a true story and people being like yeah right and he's like it all happened and so it's gonna and the the title card is like this this is a true story probably like it's but he's getting it made that's wow i had a friend of mine um who's dead now uh

but he was uh he would he was a heroin addict and he would go into camden and like shake heroin deal he would steal his brother's cop car because his brother was a cop and he would go into camden and like shake heroin deal he would steal his brother's cop car because his brother was a cop and he would shake down heroin dealers to get heroin uh which is did he die of heroin you know he was a pretty badass dude but still i'm like somebody's gonna kill you dude did he die of heroin no he he had real problems at the end of his life but he had he had uh leukemia at the end oh my god you really saw that going a different way yes so he wrote this book king of staying yes he wrote what's his name craig laser okay craig laser king of staying and now he died and then someone else book is really good like he gave it to me and I was like, God, I have to read this fucking thing before I go back

to that town. And it is an actually compelling book. And I do believe it's a true story because I don't think he's this good at lying and being creative to come up with this tale because he wasn't like a creative force. He was just kind of like a marketing man. Yeah. I mean, it's a good idea for a movie.

Yeah. When you meet him and he's like, I pretended to be a cop to get money You're like yeah It checks out It totally does I mean heroin's interesting Because I don't I think I would probably do anything to get heroin too

If I tried it I'm almost You know what I mean You see people pass it on the sidewalk And you're like how could they do that Because that's how good that thing is that's how good that thing feels right yeah yeah apparently i mean apparently i mean i did you know like last year when i was like relapsing after my mom died or i did oxy and it was the first i've done oxy a couple times but

it was what do you mean by doing oxy just taking the pills or or snorting yeah popping a couple pills okay but uh like because somebody i guess had died of cancer some left and it was a comic you gave me um but i and i was like i had it and i'm watching deadwood and i'm like okay i'm fine with this being the rest of my life wow like just sitting here and enjoying this feeling. No ambition. But okay with no ambition. No ambition. You're just fine. The drugs that people are doing now, like when I came back from rehab in December, the stuff that the kids are on now, it's all like end of life fentanyl shit. It's all the stuff like people who have cancer who have

like two days left to live uh are using like and uh and we can't hang like like nobody like if you tell those kids like oh you do heroin they're like you pussy wow you know it's like yeah i was really surprised to see so many um or at least maybe one or two to intervention episodes where the person was doing fentanyl and i'm like wait I thought fentanyl was the thing you accidentally do and then you die of. I didn't know you could actually do it and figure out a way to do it and keep living. People are doing it now.

I mean, it's 100 times more powerful than heroin. What the fuck, man? Life is so hard. I will say, though, that I love smoking weed. When I'm going through, when I'm feeling anxious and there's really nothing that can maybe stop, I can almost relate to someone who like risks it all.

Like I will risk, not it all, but I will risk showing up for something, my best self, or I will risk having a sore throat because I just want the relief that I feel as soon as I get it, right? And then it eventually feels not good and I'm kind of trying to like figure out what that relief is and I think I have it totally perfectly like I think I can describe it for people now like of what I feel and it is

the exact feeling I felt when I heard Joe Biden dropped out I relieved. I was a little bit like, everything's fine. And like, also excited. And then within five minutes, I was worried again. And there's a whole new batch of anxieties to consider. And that I think is weed. Like, I really because I felt like, oh my god, everything's gonna be okay. This is like a really good sign. And then instantly, I was like, oh oh there's just now it just opened another door of anxieties that i that i wasn't even worried about before and now i don't i don't have anywhere to turn to i guess i'll masturbate will that help it i say well i'm jealous that you're still able to masturbate but um i feel like if anyone asks you like oh it's bad

to do weed just be like look mike tyson has done every drug in the world, and the one he's good on is weed. Oh, that's really interesting. Is that true? I mean, yeah. It was, like, it was fucking – I don't know if he's done every, but he was a crackhead. No, but is he good on it, though? Like, or is he just – I mean, he's not killing everybody.

That's a good point. You know, like, he's not beating everyone. That's – because I knew somebody who's – I know somebody who's really close to Tyson, and he's like sober, and he's like his guru. And I'm like, but isn't that not sober? He goes, hey, man, he's not trying to kill everybody. Oh, good point. I mean, the lesser of some evils. We'll be right back after this to talk about what you're puffing on there, Dan.

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The podcast also has content you can't get anywhere else, like extended interviews and a roundup of the weekly headlines. Listen to The Daily Show, ears edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Dan, I see you're vaping. What does that give you? I definitely smoked cigarettes before, but do you get a relief from... Isn't just nicotine when you inhale it, it's relieving an anxiety of wanting nicotine?

That you created, yeah. That you created, yes. Yes. Yeah, you got it. But that feels good because you give yourself anxiety that you then get to soothe and then you get off on the soothing feeling. So I get that. Nicotine also provides you with some positive like it gives you it energizes you. Yeah, I think they've said nicotine is good for you. Kind of.

It's not good for you at all, at all. But it does. Like when people first start smoking cigarettes, there's a reason why they get addicted to it. It's because it does actually provide you with some benefits, some clarity of mind. It's sort of like caffeine in a way, at least from what I've read. Yeah. But I understand like creating a problem so that you feel the relief when it goes away. I think that's honestly what stand up is, is like or working, like saying yes to a gig. And then I'm like all i know is that i'm gonna feel so good when this is over like so so good so accomplished and so i think it's kind of the same thing maybe i should

start vaping when did you start vaping dan uh when i was on michelle's show i i did i started doing joel so it was 2018 and i was on and off cigarettes i was off cigarettes for about since not safe so not safe through superior donuts and then michelle's show has started vaping again And I was on and off cigarettes. I was off cigarettes for about, since Not Safe. So Not Safe through Superior Donuts. And then Michelle's show has started vaping again. And then, you know. Was it just because other people were vaping? It was kind of like that was something you could do in the office? What made you do it?

I just was very stressed. It was a position that I was, it was like a senior writer position. So I was stressed. And I was like, I don't want to go back to cigarettes. Right. i was stressed and i was like i don't want to go back to cigarettes right lesser of i don't want to get drunk so let's do uh let's do this but i also got like by the end of my time there too i was like then i started doing xanax too so i was like i just have like a very addictive fucking personality yeah as do i do you find do you find that jerking off is part of that addiction? I'm on so many antidepressants.

I mean, I haven't jerked off in like a week, I think. Whoa, yeah. Like, it's been a while. And you knew me in my single days where I was like always going on dates and trying to like meet girls. And now it's like, now that guy, I don't even know who that fucking guy is, you know? He's long gone. He's long gone. Because, yeah, no, I am not like, plus my wife is kind of like uh because he's long gone because uh yeah no i i am not like plus my wife is kind of

like recovering right now so it's like i don't know i just i don't have like really the you know great urge to jerk it right now yeah no i get that but i i think that's that can be something that i rely on sometimes in a similar way of like to distract myself once every couple days right yeah i think it's fine i think it's the times when i've read about when people are like hurting themselves because they're doing it so much and there's like skin is raw yes that's probably yeah i'm not good yeah there's guys who i mean there are guys who you know can't leave their house because they're jerking off yeah it's crazy no i don't i i mean watching porn it's like it's built to suck you in like a casino

like it's i don't even i can't believe people a lot of people are operating in these porn worlds and i am too and i have no one to talk about like the things i see and what they're said to me and these ads and like how it's like it's just so fucked up it's such a weird world that no one talks about huh the reason it will get laughs is because everyone's doing it they just don't want to say it you know they don't want to say the porn like what porn they're watching the titles of them and what's happening it's just it feels so specific but it's like it's such a universal experience that we're all like kind of just only experiencing on our own and that's why i'm always confused when they're like are you tired of jerking off alone

and it's like no i'm not this is the only way this could ever who would ever want to jerk off with someone i i don't feel that way where i'm like i never i'm like this i wish someone would do this with me it's like i'm glad to be doing it on my own I don't understand that angle and I also don't understand the angle of like you can come in 30 seconds like I'm like does do people have places to be like I want it to take longer like that these marketing angles for porn ads do not uh resonate with me at all it's always like the inside of a penis or a vagina too every time you like turn it on it's like it's like help your penis grow and then the last. Oh yeah.

They give you a cross section of a penis. A cross section. Yes. And you're like oh my god I don't need a fucking lesson dude. I'm just trying to you know jerk off to these two chicks in a hot tub. Come on. Yeah. Well that's that sounds nice. There's this thing on. This is not porn related. It's ad related. I don't have

like a bunch of weirdo like porn cues. I'm very basic. Good for related. I don't have like a bunch of weirdo, like porn cues. I'm very basic. Good for you. I don't relate. What were you going to say, Brian? There's this thing on Instagram where I'm getting these ads for, it's a crazy trend. We're getting ads for a phone game where it's like zombies are attacking you and you're shooting the zombies and then like they keep coming and coming and coming and you're shooting the zombies and um then you click on the game because it looks

like a really good game yeah you click on the game and then you go to it and all the reviews are like not this is not the actual game the advertisement right so we've all this is this is like talking about like things people do that like you don't really talk about. Right. Okay. It's like you go to the app store and you're like, I'd play that game. And then all the reviews are like, it's just a pay-for-play type of game where you're building a city and you have to defend your city. And then that became so prevalent, people clicking on that ad and realizing that it's not the game, that they started coming out with new ads that are like, did you see that ad where you that it's not the game that they started coming up with new ads that are like,

or did you see that ad where you have the zombie game? Well, guess what? We actually built the game. Oh, so they're preying on people that have already been duped by this. Yeah. But then you click on that ad and it's also not the game.

It's also just a pay to play city builder game. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? And now they even have influencers who will pop up in the ad and go like listen i saw all those ads where there was that zombie game and i really wanted to play it and now i found if you see a game and you start playing it and it's not what they advertised in the first five seconds stop playing it and then you click on that game also not the game so i don't understand what's going on. If it's just a controversy. And how are they making money?

Because you're not paying money yet to even see that it's not the game, right? Because there's still a bunch of dumbasses who want to play the pay-to-play city builder game for some reason, which is so stupid. Whoever's making these games, just make the zombie game. The zombie game is good. It will be like the new Angry Birds. Yeah. I don't understand what's going on like why everyone wants the zombie game and they just refuse to make it

because there's a world of selling stuff around the fact that the game is not being made so i think it's it's better that they don't make it it's wild i mean the way they keep then they keep making new ads every day or it's a different round it's like it's like they're basically building the game in ads because now there's a new version of the zombie game. And then multiple different companies have made multiple different versions of the zombie game as advertisements. And you click on it and it's not the fucking game. How much time are you playing games on your phone? Because I'd see guys on planes and guys be playing lots of games on phones and they look fun. And I'm like, wow, the graphics on that are incredible.

Should I be doing this? Are there ones that are really fun? No, no. I play zero games on my phone because every game on your phone nowadays is pay to play. So basically you start playing it. It's kind of fun. And then it's like, well, if you want to get a bunch of corn, you're going to have to pay $3.99. And by the way, if you don't pay $3.99 for the corn, a bunch of people who've paid $50 are going to kill you. Right.

Okay. I like playing games. Now I'm doing the mini crossword for New York Times. I like that because you can compete with people. Do you have New York Times games, Brian? Wait a second. Yeah. There's a leaderboard only on the mini crossword where it does your time.

Only on the mini? Yeah. Well, you know, during FBoy Island, we were really deep into the crossword universe. Oh, my God, yeah. We were trying to beat each other on Mondays, Tuesdays, and sometimes Wednesdays. And I have to say, it was pretty evenly matched. It really was. That was a good time.

Yeah. Final thought. Dan, what are you doing on your phone most of the time? Are you just doom scrolling Instagram Instagram is killing me What are you looking at on Instagram Just as a person's post and then you read the comments

What are you doing on there A lot of dog stuff I mean I'm not going to pretend That my Instagram discovery doesn't have a Few influencers butts it definitely does There's some wrestling stuff, assertive politics stuff from both sides. Somehow they both end up on me.

Well, it's fair. Fair and balanced. It's like the way it should be. We're like, that's weird. I like this new trend that Instagram was saying. They're not going to put any politics.

They're not going to promote any political things anymore. And then they kind of stopped doing that but no like if you i made like a a cartoon that was making fun of congress and like it um it was like suppressed because it was when they were when they were doing this this new thing where they're not they're not allowing political content to be distributed amongst the algorithm, which I think is a good idea. Okay, yeah. I think so too. I recently took the

No More Suggested posts for 30 days. It doesn't even let you do it permanently. It lets you take a month off from them giving you other shit. And I think I'm reaching the end of the month, but it was a good month off of just only seeing what I need, who I follow who i follow your friends like the one what it was designed to be there's just too many you follow too many people um i got a package in the mail from jlo the other day whoa okay i like had a bunch of i got are you kidding me like actually

i'm not kidding you i i got a bunch of i had a bunch of, I got back to town. Are you kidding me? Like actually hurt? I'm not kidding you. I got a bunch of, I had a bunch of packages that were like kind of stacked up and I was like, it stresses me out now to get packaged. It used to be so much fun but now it's like, I have to post about this person

and I have to start using these products so I can talk about them and it's like, it just piles up and it's just, I don't have anywhere to put it because I live in an apartment. So anyway,

finally I'm like going through these boxes and I'm like, JLo Beauty, when did I, did someone send me this as a prank or something? Because I definitely didn't order it. And not that I wouldn't want it, but I opened it's very heavy and it's just a whole assortment of her skin care line. And there is a card that says, I saw your video.

It's easy to go along with the crowd. Thanks for not doing that. It's I'm paraphrasing. What was the video? There was a tiktok of me talking about her while i was on the zach sang podcast and i was talking about how i'd really changed my opinion about her because i saw her documentary and i just made me soften on her and realize like she's actually pretty cool and talented and just you know is just a girl that

wants to put her art out there and be seen and we're all just mental because it's always taken out of context and she's and yes she's a and be seen. And we're all just mental. She's a movie star. It's always taken out of context. And she's, and yeah, she's a movie star, but like generally we're all just like jealous if we're shitting on her. And I think that that's probably what was going on in my perspective at least. And so I said that we clipped it for my TikTok because people were already kind of clipping it.

And so we clipped it and then it kind of took off and, and then she saw it and she sent me the stuff and then so at the very end of the message though she said um and uh here's uh here's like my skincare she goes um for your something about like so you can take care of your feet and i'm like is there foot cream in this like i was very confused i'm like oh maybe she's heard like me talk about my bunions and she's kind of like putting in a dig in there and then this is like days ago that this happened and I literally cried when I got it because it was just so sweet and I feel bad for anything I've ever said judgmental about her because she went out of her way to like at least she did she didn't

type it up herself but she definitely like maybe she did type it up and send an email so they typed it up but she definitely it was her voice I can just tell when someone is like it's them and then the PS about my using this the stuff she sent for my feet I was like what is this about and this girl got like she I realized last night in bed I seized up because I suddenly realized what she was saying I used to do a joke about that she must have heard or maybe it was part of it I don't even know how she came across this but I used to do a joke about that she must have heard or maybe it was part of it I don't even know how she came across this but I used to do a joke about how she's so pretty that like you shouldn't trust buying your skincare from her because she'd probably she's probably wants you to look ugly because she she needs you to stay ugly so she can stay pretty that was like my

whole premise and I'm like she's gonna mean girls you and she's gonna put foot cream in that stuff she wouldn't put that on her face like she's's tricking you. She doesn't use that. And so she did my joke back to me. Wow. And kind of like did a little dig and I fucking respect it and I love it. And she's like, yeah, use this on your feet. Like, but then she also gave me this nice gift. So it was just like, she's just cool and funny. And I respect it so much.

Did that joke ever make it on TV? I don't know where she could have seen it. I'm sure I've said it on some couch. I'm sure. I don't know where she could have seen it. I'm sure I've said it on some couch. I'm sure I don't know where I maybe even said it in that interview. It may have even been in that clip that we clipped. It wasn't in your last special. It was the whole feet thing. You had the whole

you were talking about your feet on Not Safe. Maybe she saw that. But not in relation to J-Lo. No, this is definitely about, because I was like, J-Lo has a line of skin care, and I'm like don't use it because there's no way she's going to tell us her secrets like she's got good secrets and she doesn't want you to know them so don't buy her skincare line because it's probably foot cream like she's mean girl girlsing us and I stole the foot cream line from mean girls like I didn't I wasn't trying to

rip off that joke I'm just like that's what they do in mean girls and um and she did it back to me and I it totally went over my head this is what happens when you're a comedian you think other people aren't funny or like, you just don't expect them to be funny. So you just don't, you're just like, why would she say? Okay.

And, um, and then last time in, in bed and I'm like, Oh, and I'm like, she got me good. And it just felt,

it, it, it, it made me a little nauseous. Cause I'm like, Oh no, she heard me like make fun of her and do that joke. I just have to like,

remember people see stuff. And I just, this weekend I've just had like, uh of her and do that joke. I just have to like remember people see stuff. And I just, this weekend I've just had like a, not because of that, but I, I did an interview last week that actually she was like, kind of called out some of my stuff. And she's like,

it just seems like, you know, cruel and tasteless for no reason. That's what an interviewer said to me. And I was like, well, well for what what was this about roast you know and i get that they are cruel and tasteless no it's for fun but that's the time when you're allowed to do it and you're doing it in joke form and it's what you expect bad and then i was like examined my set and i'm like oh i think i am sometimes just mean for the sake of being mean

and i just like but it's kind of impossible to write comedy and be nice that's a fucking roast that's the whole point of roasts well she got me she made me second guess everything and i was like oh man i i don't want to put out like cynicism and like like uh just this nasty that's so stupid it's like going to the olympics and being, you're running a little fast. This is a little fast. This is much faster than I would see in the street. I know. That's what I defended it as.

I'm like, that was the job I was hired for. I don't know what to tell you. Like, that's kind of what I had to do. And it's maybe weird that I can do it with such ease or that I enjoy doing it. But, yeah, I was this weekend looking at my act and I was like, well, that's me. I'm so mad at that person. I'm so mad at that person. I'm so mad at that person. No, it's okay. She meant well by it.

And she is a fan, but it did make me question myself a little bit. But I just don't, you know, I don't know where to write from if I'm not like pointing out things that I'm kind of like pissed about. And then I kind of passive aggressively make fun of them while also trying to point out the hypocrisy. Well, that's why you're always punching. Then I get kind of dirty, as dirty as they do, kind of. That's why you're always punching up. That's why it's bad to punch down. Because if you're just being mean to some underling, then that's just

there's no point to that. But if you punch up, then you're allowed to because you're the one that's suffering. In your last special, you're annoyed or you're mad at your own mortality and your own ability to have children and stuff like that. And those are things that you can be as mean as you want about because it's because you're you're punching up in that situation.

If you were going out there and you were like if you were doing a roast, OK, you're doing. Remember, when you did a roast, you roasted Tom Brady. You're roasting NFL players and other comedians who are on the same level as you. If you went out in the roast and you were like, the guy that works the post office is a fat piece of shit. Why? He's ugly and smells like shit. That would be mean.

But in this instance, you're everyone up there agreed to be roasted and they're on the same level or above you. Okay. But now I'm starting to think about my standup and like, sometimes I think I throw people under the bus or like I I kind of do I feel like if I I think in my head I justify

because I'm like oh I make fun of myself a lot so I can just then I can make fun of other people that aren't here and maybe subjects like even the JLo thing like I'm glad I didn't include all that bit in my special because I was kind of thought oh she's gonna see this and it is not very nice and it's coming from a place of jealousy. You were also like changing your mind, but you're also like changing your mind while working out that bit. And you're like,

I don't even know. I like JLo. I think, why am I saying this? I was like, I think that's why I'm saying is because I like her so much that I'm like jealous. It's just interesting to find your motivations. Like I was talking to this interviewer about how I used to Oh this is what I wish I would have said to her Because we were talking about You know when I would go on stage And I would try to like hurt a guy If a guy had hurt me I would like write a bit about him In a way that would like prey on some kind of insecurity

That he had and I wouldn't use his name But like if he ever heard it he would know it was about him Because I wanted To hurt him as much as he hurt me right like of course classic that's but that sometimes i think oh i'm just trying to get revenge i just yes but i'm just trying i think sometimes i'm like no i want i just want to be mean because he was mean to me but the truth in that is that i he didn't i felt he didn't understand how devastated i was by what he did to me even though it wasn't his fault that he just changed his mind and didn't like me anymore.

And I really can't be mad at that. So instead, I'm going to try to get him to feel the sadness I felt and then maybe he'll feel bad about what he did. I think that's the circuitous route I take. Yeah, misguided. Yeah. The secret is. It's just like wanting my feelings validated. Like if he were to be like,

I know this is so hard and I know this sucks, but instead he was just like, this is just how I feel and this is how it's going to be. Yeah. That was like, Oh, you don't get what you're doing to me, but you will,

I will make you feel just as sad. And I'll do it in a different way. That's like poking fun at something, how you look or. Well, do you think it achieved this goal? Yeah, I did. I really hurt this person for a while.

Yeah, and made them uncomfortable and made them loathe me. And they should have because I was just like, it was so misguided. And it was all just like, I think everyone does it. When you're rejected, you just have to come up with a story why they are evil. And why, because the story just can't be that they didn't like you. Like, they aren't attracted to you. I was like that, I think, in my 20s. But then, like, I started, I was like, then I started seeing the girls' points.

I'm like, all right, yeah, you know, like, I get it. All right. I don't think I was getting any feedback. Not that I would have asked for it, but I think guys would just start to slow fade. And I so I wouldn't know why. That's the worst. It would just seem like and I'm glad I didn't. I don't want to know why.

I can only guess the many reasons they had to not want to be my boyfriend but i think back then i was just so hurt that i was like if this guy's not gay uh or like that's my one thing i could say he's maybe gay that's why he doesn't like me and then i don't take it personally or or he's so scared he's so scared to be loved like that was another thing and then he's engaged a week later that'll make him more attractive to women yeah to be loved and they're like i'm gonna prove you i'm gonna fix him yeah well we're really anyone who would ever try to like love someone who doesn't want to be loved is really thinks they're unlovable themselves as we know um so, where can we find your special? Speaking of Unlovable, my company, I'm on, yeah, you can just check out Dance Fatty Dance. It's free on YouTube. I am on Instagram, too.

Follow there, and you can get, like, all my dates on my website. Dan St. Germain is one of the best comics out there. He's so funny. Go see him live You'll see him in an intimate Not completely finished comedy club That will be closed in six months Guys whenever you see me There will be plenty of room

So don't worry about it But definitely get tickets to go see him If he's coming near you It's different than Go to comedy clubs He's been around forever He's doing it at the level It's different than comedy. Go to comedy clubs and see these. He's been around forever. He's doing it at the level of the people you go see in theaters.

It's just things haven't worked out for him yet. But you deserve that level. You deserve to be in theaters, as you know. I have a great, I mean, I have a great resume. No, you are, no. If I told everybody All this shit that I've done, they'd be like, oh wow That's amazing, you must be rich, and I'm like

Nope Well that's the industry now Dan is a bargain basement comedian Yeah man, I'm a 15 buck, 20 buck ticket Baby, come on out We don't know why, it's just an anomaly That you aren't bigger, but the thing is You will be, and you are so bigger. But the thing is, you will be.

And you are so fucking funny. And I always tell you that I wish I had your brain. And sometimes I use your brain to help me with things. Dan St. Germain is. I'm always comedians, though. That's the problem. No. Dan St. Germain is three.

Count them. Three viral clips away from being a theater act. Absolutely. You just got to get those three. Absolutely. I've had two this year. Come on gotta get the next well what's what no it needs to be over a million needs to be over two million really i mean both are like over a million you know but okay okay well maybe i'm not getting nicky viral you know what i mean i'm like i wasn't getting nicky viral until that moment but it's um and it's hard to sustain it.

No, I mean, it's been a slow build the whole fucking time. It's, it seems like I've had so many successes and yeah, I've had a pretty good career for a while, but, um, there's a lot of factors that contribute to that. My age, my gender, uh, the amount of other people doing it, uh, of my age and gender place things that there's, I've been very lucky and you just haven't been Dan. You've actually been so lucky. We're so, we're so lucky and go watch Dan special.

He's fucking incredible. Get on the ground floor. Now you'll cause he is, he's one of the best Dan St. Germain dance, fatty dance on YouTube for free. Brian Frangie. Thanks for being here. because he is he's one of the best. Dan St. Germain danced Fatty Dance on YouTube for free. Brian Frangie thanks for being here. We will

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