The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #456 Stir Your Deodorant, Jason Mraz Concert, Revisiting Therapy, New Car Mishaps
Episode Date: July 25, 2024Nikki and Brian talk about their recent run into therapy and getting centered. Lots of new things happening in their lives and who knew taking care of your mental health was priority. Plus, have you a...ll been stirring your deodorant lately? Nikki doesn't want to Jason Mraz backstage because she was tired. I mean, who hasn't been in that situation? Final destination visions are happening with Nikki or is she just finding herself in "Twister" scenarios. Final thought: Nikki got a new car and let's say Chris may have flown too close to the sun... Subscribe to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts to get this episode ad-free, and get exclusive bonus content: https://apple.co/nikkiglaserpodcast Watch this episode on our Youtube Channel: The Nikki Glaser Podcast Follow the pod on Instagram for bonus content: @NikkiGlaserPod Leave us your voicemail: Click Here To Record Nikki's Tour Dates: nikkiglaser.com/tour Brian’s Animations: youtube.com/@BrianFrange More Nikki: IGSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Nikki Glaser Podcast.
The Nikki Glaser Podcast.
Hello, here I am.
Welcome to the show.
It's the Nikki Glaser Podcast.
Thank you for listening.
I'm here in St. Louis. Brian is with us. What's up, Brian?
Yo.
I told you I went to go to see The Sphere again.
Yeah, so we didn't...
But I didn't tell you what it was.
So it seems like you went to the Superior show.
Yeah, it was redeemed.
I mean, they should have just played the screens from the movie I saw behind you, too.
It's like I'm learning, I guess, that the screens are super expensive.
And but that's no excuse.
Bono should have taken a pay cut to make the screens better.
There's no way that Bono should have looked like been watched.
What like there's some way in which they probably filmed themselves practicing and then watched it back and then like, what's the experience like?
And there's no way.
But you know what?
Yes, there is a way he was satisfied with it because we're the only ones who weren't.
So there is.
That's the thing that's mind boggling.
That's always the thing that's mind boggling about art is the amount of people who gobble up mediocrity like it's greatness.
I there are dear people I love dearly who like things that I can't understand why they like it's greatness i they're dear people i love dearly who like things that i can't understand
why they like it and i have to ask them point for point like and what was funny about this line
of this person's thing i like anya i'll sometimes see that she will like like someone's comedy clip
and i'm like i want to understand where this like came from. It's no judgment, but like all the judgment, right?
Like, I'm like, do you just want this person to like you
or just being nice, like, is this like a friend?
Do you actually think this is funny?
And if so, explain to me because sometimes I'm like,
okay, yeah, I got it now, okay.
I just don't relate to that or I have taste.
But anyway, so I definitely, art is subjective,
but is it, is it, I keep hearing,
like someone told me the other day,
oh, because I was complaining about imposter syndrome,
right, on the girls' chat.
Classic Nikki Glaser combo.
Classic, and Carlisle, I believe, was like,
that's like asking someone, like,
you can't pick, like, the best color. There's no best color, because's like asking someone like, you can't pick like the best color.
There's no best color because everyone likes a different color.
And I'm like, it's not like that.
To me, it's not like that.
There is, there are things that are superior and there are things that are not.
And yes, you can vary, like there's some, Noah's into heavy metal or death metal.
I don't understand that at all, but I do understand there is a musicality to it
that I don't grasp and therefore I'm just left out.
But there's some stuff that is bad.
You can appreciate, like there's different types of art
that you can still appreciate
even though it's not your thing.
But then there are some things
that are just a bad version of the thing.
Poorly done.
Yeah.
I just, I don't think it's really subjective because i think we can all
agree on who the best comedians are like at least the p here's the thing is some people think they're
comedians that are great but they have bad taste and that's fine and i guess it is subjective
because they're allowed to think that's bad but they're they're wrong if you're looking at it like
a tape uh you know i'm saying like
no but even why do we all agree on the best comedians being chris rock dave chappelle john
mulaney uh george carlin like why why is that why are we all great if comedy is so subjective why
do we all agree pretty much across the board louis ck bilber why do we all agree that those are the
best because we're comedians.
We agree.
No, no.
Go pull someone out of the street
and they'll tell you that they're
their favorite comedians.
Because they don't know their work.
Gabriel Iglesias or somebody like that.
But if they watch Gabriel Iglesias
and they watch John Mulaney back to back,
I think, well, Gabriel's very good though.
But Gabriel's good and he's skilled.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
I can appreciate people who like Gabriel Iglesias
because I can understand someone liking that. but there are some comedians or whatever i
don't think comedians we should be talking about that because we're so entrenched in it yeah but
there are some comedians that are just terrible and you're like how could you like this how could
you possibly like this i just see that there's like yes everyone should be able to make art but
we shouldn't all be like it's all has the possibility to be the best it's like
no some of it's not it's just gonna be mid as yeah yeah and I think be mid but
it's also okay to call something mid I don't have to act like everything has
the potential to be so special and and great when I just I just don't i don't get i just will not whatever
i'm not gonna fight on it but the youtube back to the sphere i don't see how you i just want to say
one more thing and compare to you two and say that it was that you two was good well yeah one more
thing the one element that we're not including in this is that most people are stupid and like
that's why they like mid things they're they're
stupid they can't evaluate what they're seeing i think 50 of the people who consume art are so
stupid that they don't even have the capacity to evaluate something as good or bad kind of stupid
i am because i'm pretty i'm not the smartest person i'm not smart as i want to be but i at
least know that i'm not as smart as i want to be, but I at least know that I'm not as smart as I want to be.
I think I'm really grateful.
Maybe I'm not grateful.
I know how dumb I am.
I know my limitations and it's frustrating,
but I think there are some people that are so stupid
they don't even know how dumb they are.
And that would be a fun kind of place to be in
is to hear big words and go,
what the fuck is that when I hear a big
word I go how did I not know that word I'm gonna look it up I'm gonna learn it I'm gonna practice
saying execrable because that word is interesting to me I want to sound learned and so I practiced
yesterday execrable execrable I looked it up I was like it means um bad like discuss like just
the worst okay like just ferment yeah yeah i guess but i had
to like really focus on it and i'm because i'm stupid because that word did not land and some
people the guy that used this word is just an intellectual who i listened to he has a podcast
with another guy and they just review music and they are they use so many big words and they're
so smart and i'm like these guys didn't need to try to learn execrable. They're just the kind of smart that it,
it just got in.
And they use the,
another word that I use that they learned or that they taught me was,
um,
Oh God.
Prenaturally.
Prenaturally.
Prenaturally.
Yes.
Good word.
That one I'm still working on.
That's today's word.
Execrable.
I got it.
It means like of, um, like beyond just nature. It one I'm still working on. That's today's word. That's the crapola I got. Define it. It means like beyond just nature.
It's like otherworldly, I believe.
Okay, got it.
I think.
I could be wrong.
That's the thing.
I'll learn a word and then I won't know how to use it.
But I know like there was a frustration yesterday of like,
why can't I just be as smart as these guys?
I've heard these words.
Why don't they stick for me in a way that I can pull them out at any time
and it was frustrating and I like realizing that limitation in myself made
me a little bit frustrated but I think there's some people that hear those
words and just go I'm gonna sit that out that's not for me and I don't care that
I don't know it and that's fine I don't even think that it's us they don't even
think it's a thing that they should know or that would make them be able to communicate better or seem more cultured or whatever it is.
Like, I just.
Well, you know what?
Like that person.
I love that person.
They're a great hang.
They're there.
They throw you a great birthday party.
They're probably going to be really empathetic.
I think people like that are generally they have their place.
It's just not because, you know, I think people who are like, I think what you're describing
is somewhat of like a perfectionistic quality.
And I think people who like go with them don't who hear a word and don't care about it.
Yeah.
Like, no, people who care about the words are perfectionist and people who don't care
just like whatever.
And like those people are fun to hang out with.
They don't take it personally that they don't know. not um and those are and those people can be fans like i mean i
guess i maybe i want to step back on what i said about everybody being stupid yeah maybe it's stupid
it's not a crime to be stupid no and i think maybe just people have different strengths and
weaknesses but also when i think about everyone being stupid i just pretty much think of the
internet and like just reading comments and like how dumb everybody is on Twitter and on comments.
It's really upsetting.
And, you know, honestly, that's probably not that's probably not most of the population is even making comments at all.
In November.
I guess.
Yeah.
Well, it's it's it does feel disheartening to read Instagram comments, YouTube comments, which I don't really do so much of.
But Reddit is where you go,
oh, people are still smart and really thoughtful.
I feel like that's it.
And it's not like just intellectuals on there or anything.
It pretty much is just normal everyday people
writing really interesting things
and using correct punctuation and stuff.
And that's just like, that's our education system.
It's like there are people that are capable of using commas in the right places and and you're and
you're knowing the difference and stuff like that and they just didn't get good teachers and so it's
not their fault but i will say about the the sphere thing was so awesome it's called postcard
from earth and it's pretty much about it's like a movie it's a 50 minute movie by
darren arnoff arnoffsky and i saw his movie that jennifer lawrence was in mother i think
um and it was terrifying yeah it was really scary and like weird and crazy so i was kind of like
what's this gonna be did black swan yeah and the whale. Oh, yeah. And I saw the whale.
And I didn't love the whale, but I liked the way it was shot.
And I was excited to see what he would do with this.
It was so pretty.
It was so stunning.
There were breathtaking moments.
Like, you know, it starts out, there's an alien ship.
And these aliens that have, like, been cryogenically frozen.
They're not aliens.
Sorry, they're humans.
But they're on a spaceship,
and they've been frozen because the world ended, I guess.
And they're waking up on this new world,
and they're learning about where they came from.
And it was called The Earth.
And here's what The Earth was about.
So they take you through, and then,
but at first, Brian, okay, the screen was just a square,
like the way you would see at a movie theater.
That's all you were seeing with the spaceship part.
A very small amount of the actual you would see at a movie theater. That's all you were seeing with the spaceship part. A very small amount
of the actual sphere.
Yeah, this is cool.
But big, you know,
like if you saw that big of a screen
somewhere else,
you'd be like,
that's a huge screen,
but it's like not using
all the sphere screens.
So I was like,
are they doing this shit again?
But it was beautiful
the way they did it
because I was like whispering
to Ryan Hamilton
who was in town in Vegas
at the same time as me
and he went with me.
I was like
they are not gonna use the full screen I go I cannot believe this I'm filming it for Chris and
for you to be like guess what they did to me for a 50 minute movie but then all of a sudden they
get to the postcard part so it's like probably like five minutes of like the square and I'm like
fuck this and then they get to the earth and it boom and it opens up the whole thing and I go here
we go and it was really nice that they teased it.
Yes.
Because they left something for me.
Now you can appreciate.
You can appreciate what you're seeing.
It was really good.
And then, so then you're going over like, if you go to Vegas, you have to go see the show.
And I'm not going to spoil it for you because there's really nothing to spoil.
It's just scenic and monumental and moving and execrable the opposite
of execrable inexorable is that yeah it's inexorable is that right uh it's it is it's
not preternatural it's all things that are happening in on earth and in nature but not also
not all in nature because okay first thing so they're going through like a tundra and you go
over these mountains and you're going through the grand tundra and you go over these mountains and
you're going through the grand over the grand canyon and you're kind of like oh and everyone
like is gasping and it's awesome and then they're like okay well then man came along and they're
kind of telling the story of earth and man was inspired so much by the mountains and the
tapestries of the forests and and and everything that they wanted to build more.
And in architecture, they represented that grandeur in architecture.
And then they take you inside cathedrals, which you're like,
I don't want to go to a cathedral.
It's just in the fucking rainforest.
But then you're like, whoa, this is even cooler because you're in Notre Dame
because you're also in a theater already.
So the air feels the same as it would there.
So it makes it easy for you to feel like you're there.
And that was stunning.
And they're in these mosques and they're in Notre Dame.
And then,
and then they're like,
okay,
now we're going to talk about animals.
And then they have like a big elephant walk up to the camera and like get so
close to you.
You feel like you're about to be trampled.
That was really cool. And then you're in a tornado at one point and the wind starts blowing and your seats
rumbling and your body literally my body was seriously like you need to get inside like there
was there was something going on in my nervous system that um superseded my you know consciousness
that was like you you just run.
It felt so real. It was so cool. It was 50 minutes,
but I will say, it's a start time of
2 o'clock. Didn't start till 3.
Take your time getting there.
Why? I don't know.
I thought in Vegas, things are like
licking split. Is the sphere not
affiliated with the casino at all?
I don't know that.
But it didn't say anywhere on the ticket or like on the info that the movie wouldn't start till three.
So I got there at 145 and we just sat around, which was nice because I got to catch up with my friend Ryan.
But that's the good thing about working in Vegas is that there are always other comics in town at other clubs or theaters.
Yeah.
Colin Jost was there with SNL people.
Oh, cool.
And we were going to go hang out with them after the show.
But I'm just such a fucking pussy and lazy.
And like, don't like after shows, I just want to go to bed.
I just don't know what's happening to me.
I went to Jason Mraz last night and I had backstage passes and I could have just gone and just said hi.
Yeah.
And gotten a picture and I should have because I'm learning,
like I've recently been having conversations
about like how to move the dial.
Now that your dial is up,
where do you want to move it to
and what's the way to make a splash in this way
and like everything,
and I'm not depressed by this.
It's just the way it is.
It's about who you're around and like when you reach way it is. It's about who you're around.
And when you reach a certain level, it's about who you're friends with.
And like, oh, she's hanging out with that person?
That must mean that she's on that level.
And that's interesting.
She must be.
And so there's a part of me that's like, I want the picture just to set the story.
But the story is, I know Colin Jost and I know Jason Mraz and I don't need to tell anyone that
can that just be my story without promoting it I mean I'm talking about it here but I mean like
I don't know like can't that influence who I am as an artist and maybe take me to the next level
just by virtue of knowing them as opposed to like telling people I know them like does why does that
have to be it but it really is that like yeah there we were talking about I was talking to someone about like what breaks an
artist in terms of like a music artist a pop artist and every example was like and then she
wrote a song about this guy that she was dating that's a famous guy and then this other girl
well we that song was about this guy and I'm like oh my god the way girls are breaking in is like you have to date someone famous
and write a song about them guys can
do that too yeah and guys can too
I mean like it's a tale as old as time
in Hollywood to just date someone and then suddenly
you're elevated but I just that's
not an option for me yeah right
now at this point and I'm
not really interested in finding artificial
ways of but it's part of your
job I mean as a celebrity it's part of your job. I mean, as a,
as a celebrity,
as part of your,
it's like how people in offices hate doing like Salesforce notes,
but you just gotta do the Salesforce notes.
You have to post pictures of yourself with Shaq or else you're just going to be diminished in the eyes of the,
of the Lord.
Yeah.
You got like,
I missed an opportunity to be like,
look who I'm hanging out with um and and I but I just don't even when I hang out with people I always forget to get a picture and I'm
like was that just worthless that I did that but it isn't like I just I don't know I just don't
know if I I'm not like sitting the game out or I don't think I'm better than the game because I
understand it and I do do things just for the sake of the story and because they'll be fun like for example I am
going to I think I'm going to drive two hours after a show I'm doing in Michigan like I'm doing
two shows in Michigan on Friday and Saturday um coming up and and then on Sunday I think I'm
driving two hours to this like small town.
I don't even know if it's a small town,
but it's two hours away
to a suburb
to go watch this eight-year-old boy
recreate the Eris concert
in his backyard.
He's like gone viral this week
for like doing a really good
Taylor Swift impression
and hitting all the notes
and being so into it.
He was captivating.
I mean, I was craving footage from this kid,
not because I'm like, wow, a kid's doing it.
It was just like, this is good.
His voice is good.
His mannerisms are good.
I want to see this.
And so I wrote some comment.
The people that posted the video,
which are his neighbors,
through the consent of his parents,
posted the video.
They're running the account.
And they're like, we're fans.
We're going to come see you in michigan and i'm like bring him by
he can't see my show but like bring him backstage if he cares to meet not that he would care but i
want to meet him sure and they go he has a show that night oh my god show and he goes they're
gonna put on an he's gonna do the whole heiress thing because they're just posting clips here and
there and i go i want to go i wish i could go and she goes we we spoke to kellen he is willing to move the show to sunday if you want to come and i was like
i think i do damn i don't really have that much time in my schedule to do things that are being
one up by an eight-year-old i but i was they were like he can come to you and maybe you guys can
perform something together and i'm like i don't want to make this about me.
I don't want to use this eight year old for any kind of like video I'm going to be in.
I literally just want to go see Era's tour through the lens of this kid.
And yes, I am going to film it and document it because I just think it's funny.
But that's the kind of thing that I'm like, I will go do that because it deep in my soul.
It is what I want to do if there were no cameras around anyway, which is also I would like to meet Jason Mraz and hang out with Colin Jost.
I just was tired, and I had an early flight the next day.
And last night, I was like, I don't know.
Also in me is like, do they really want to hang out with me?
And then that self-doubt creeps in.
I've never been someone with social anxiety,
but I do understand when people are nervous about going to things that seem fun sure well the idea of hanging out with
you is different than actually hanging out with you it's like what's going to actually happen
what's going to fill all that time yeah and last night I kind of had bo because I I put on deodorant
early in the morning and then I forgot to reapply and I smelled myself on the way there what's your
brain I hug him and I mean I use the stuff that Chris found called Purely Great and you have
to like stir it.
Oh, interesting.
With a stick and it's charcoal and it's totally natural and it makes you smell not at all.
Like literally it'll make you not smell for days if you want one application.
But I kind of got off that train because you have to stir it and it sometimes dries out.
And so I'm just back on like secret, like, much like peanut secret you know no aluminum i've been uh trying to get
new deodorant because the deodorant that that's been that i used to use is no longer is discontinued
which is like so annoying i fucking hate why do people why do companies discontinue anything
dude just keep making it i'm not kidding you a staple of my diet but like i eat this protein bar at least three of
them a day like their meal like they just for me i like eat protein bars like their meals like
it's i don't even want to say it because i don't want people to like get on board i don't want
people to like okay i think i can picture what it is because i yeah because i i literally have
i can't believe they're discontinued only because I should have kept
them in business just with my one customer.
I was eating three a day equals, I mean, if you go through my Amazon thing, it's thousands
of boxes I've ordered of these because I ate them for probably seven years now.
Yep.
And they got, this flavor got discontinued.
The fuck?
And we went to all the grocery stores that carry it because Chris was like, no, we will
not accept this.
And I was like, babe, they're gone.
And I'm okay with it because this has happened.
As someone with an eating disorder who hyper focuses on certain foods, all my girls out there and guys that have eating disorders that hyper focus on a certain brand or kind of flavor of something, you know it's going to be discontinued eventually.
Or they're going to change the flavor.
It happens.
And you got to move on to something else.
Or they'll change the formula.
And then the thing you once loved is now shit.
Yeah.
Or the packaging.
And it just looks different.
What the fuck is this?
This has happened with probably dozens of products for me.
So yeah, we got to go to break.
But your deodorant, are you on the lookout for a new one?
I think I might have found a new one.
Natural?
It's all natural, yeah.
I'm telling you this purely great stuff that if someone's listening
and wants to find a deodorant that literally makes you smell negative,
like no smell, it's a fucking miracle.
No natural deodorants are like this.
I would never found one.
Chris tried them all.
Purely great.
You stir it with a stick and you have to like ladle it on your armpit,
but it works.
It works real good.
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So, Brian, you have been working on something that just got announced.
Yeah, so related to this, actually, I'm going to Vegas tomorrow.
Oh, nice.
Yeah, with Tim.
Tim Dillon is doing shows in Vegas.
I'm not opening for him.
I'm just going.
Wait, where is he performing?
The comedy club that's there.
What's the comedy club called?
I don't know.
There's lots of them.
Wise Guys?
Is that right?
I don't know.
Yeah.
But now that you mention it, it reminded me that I should go to this fear and check out that show.
Yeah.
There's like four showings of it a day.
I can't wait to hear your thoughts on it. It's really fun. And like
just a quick day and it's beautiful and it was awesome. So yeah, go. So you're going with Tim
Dillon. Tim has a TV show coming out on a special coming out on Netflix, an election special,
right? Yeah. Well, it's like a talk show, basically. It's like a talk show comedy special
that's based around the election. And instead of focusing on the candidates, it's focusing on the electorate and asking the question, do we get what we deserve?
And it's really like a resurrection of trash talk shows from the 90s, basically.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Where did those go?
I mean, I don't know, but we need them now more than ever.
Because we are already primed for them because we grew up with them.
We know the format.
We can recognize it.
And also, who better to work in that kind of atmosphere and wrangle those kinds of people but Tim Dillon?
I mean, it's like a culmination of everything he's ever done.
It's like the perfect vehicle for him.
So good.
It's going to,
when I saw the,
um,
there was like a,
on,
on Reddit,
I saw a post about like,
we need audience members for the show,
for this talk show.
And we need you to be crazy.
Like it was asking for like unhinged people.
Maybe that was this rowdy.ed people. Maybe that was this.
Passionate people.
Rowdy.
Yeah, no, that was this.
Yeah.
And that's before the announcement came, and I was like, what is?
And then I talked to another guy who's working on it, and he kind of told me about it, too.
And I was like, this is perfect.
And the greatest part about it is that if it's a shit show, which it sounds like it'll be, that's the goal.
You know,
and Tim thrives in those environments.
I just cannot wait to see this.
Yes.
I'll watch anything that man does,
but,
um,
especially this kind of just hip him.
He is just,
he's so,
he gets along with everyone.
He has a way of being,
making everyone feel seen,
everyone feel comfortable,
um,
making everyone feel funny and appreciated and while also sneaking in just like devastating critiques of people without them
really noticing especially if they're not the smartest and the quickest like he has just an
ability to he's just so good i can't wait is it's gonna be amazing i mean i said this in the pitch
deck i said this will be the most accurate portrayal of America that television has ever seen.
Oh, I think it will be.
And yes.
Yeah.
And there was a deadline article out yesterday and it was my first ever mention in an industry trade.
You were in it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
First ever, which is, you know, I've been like a showrunner before.
I've been EPs on things before, but I've never had a Deadline article.
Yes.
And so this was a big moment for Team Bri.
Oh, Deadline is everything in the business.
That's like me getting a picture with Jason Mraz.
Like, I need to do these things.
Yeah, you need that Deadline.
That is exactly what it is.
It's currency in this business.
I've always said, like, the the deadline article is probably a bigger splash than honestly like the poster for the show that you have coming out if
you post it like yeah or even the show itself like more people care about the deadline article at
least in the industry yeah i'm not exaggerating like it sounds like i'm just saying something to
say something i truly get more attention when I post a deadline thing of like, I
might be doing this show than when the
show comes out, without question.
It's wild. So
that's really exciting. And you're
filming it in August?
We're filming it in August
and if you're a bestie and you're in the
LA area and you're interested in going to the
taping, then... Dude, you gotta go.
I would go if I could go. Message me on Instagram and I will forward you the link and then I'll just make sure and you're interested in going to the taping then dude you gotta go i would go if i could go message me on instagram and i will forward you the link and then i'll just make sure that
you're selected um you know there's limited seats or whatever but how intensely are you working on
this right now it's pretty intense it's like uh it's i i'm feeling it in my body. Like I did not like my wife, Allie, said yesterday, like she literally said, like, can you calm down?
Because I'm just like pacing around the house.
Like I'm on the phone like 24-7 doing the equivalent of yelling.
But it's just me talking.
Like when I'm amped up and I'm like doing like business chatter, it always sounds like yelling.
Yeah, you sound upset. I sound upset. And I'm justped up and I'm doing business chatter, it always sounds like yelling.
Yeah, you sound upset.
I sound upset.
And I'm just on that mode.
I'm just on that mode probably like 10 hours a day.
And I don't even realize how amped I've been.
I feel calm today because I did some stuff to calm myself down over the last couple of days.
But I've been adrenaline-f adrenaline fueled, super amped,
you know, my typical, like just first of all, just recognize that like, I didn't recognize I was like going at a hundred miles an hour, super amped. And I didn't even realize how much stress I had
until I was like, wait a second. I feel like I've been yelling for like 14 straight days
going at a hundred miles an hour. And I i didn't even notice and my wife had to
say can you calm down well that's good you didn't notice that i feel like usually you're have
residual like pains well i did i i was like suffering through incredible amounts of pain
but that's just par for the course what did you do what did you do you like did breathing stuff
or meditation or yeah there's like rounds from the dnrs program which i've
talked about before i've done just like just being recognizing it calming down breathing
um and then also i've returned to therapy for the first time oh okay again i've done two sessions
now with like a pain psychology therapist. Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah.
It's the same therapist I had six years ago.
Great.
When I initially started and I stopped seeing her because I started doing the DNRS program. And let me tell you, it's really fascinating to resume a relationship with someone that you haven't seen for precisely six years.
Yeah, because pre-covid well it's a long enough amount of time
for like things to change in your life but not so long that you're like of course things have
changed like if you see someone from high school that you haven't seen in 20 years and they're like
i have kids now and i'm married and i work for this like you're like of course you do like why
wouldn't things have changed but six years ago is close enough that
you're like oh wow that is surprising so like for example when i first started seeing this therapist
six years ago i just started dating ally oh wow i didn't talk to her for six full years and i get
to say by the way oh she said are you how how is dating that girl
Allie?
How'd that go?
She asked that question that basically her notes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She definitely checked her notes.
And I was like, well, I'm married now to her.
In fact.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
And it's just time capsule.
Exactly.
It's like a time capsule as opposed to like someone who I knew as a child in camp who's
like, what are you doing now?
Stuff, though, that you were like, man, I haven't changed a lot.
Yeah. I mean, so far, just like, yeah, I mean, I'm still like suffering, you know, and like that's annoying.
I actually canceled my therapy session last.
I go every other week at this point because I've been doing pretty well. And I canceled last week because I was like, I don't really have anything.
I just wrote her the day of.
I was like, I know I'm getting charged for this, but like, I just don't have anything
that I need to like talk about or, or piece together or make sense of.
And I know that's not what therapy is always for.
It's just sometimes just good to do.
But I'm like, I I just I'm sorry I just and like well she doesn't fucking care but I was like I'm
I'm sorry and then oh immediately this and I was almost like maybe I'll just stop you know like
maybe my life is perfect now and I don't have anything to complain about and of course it creeps
back in um eventually but it's kind of nice to have
someone who's a little bit on call sure but you don't you don't have to do therapy every week for
the rest of your life like it can be like especially after you develop a foundation of
concepts and tools you can use and an understanding of like what your specific deal is you should be
able to like take those tools out into the wild and use them and you can return to
therapy whenever you want you don't you don't have to you don't you don't you shouldn't have
to rely on them for every week for the rest of your life you should feel okay being like you
know what i'm good maybe you have to come back in a year or two and yeah but it's just tougher
i just think about their business model and like okay if i if i
just go actually i'm not gonna do this week and i give her enough notice that she does she has
that open space but she doesn't make money off of it like i've kind of fucked her over by being like
i'll just pick and it's like canceling netflix and i'm watching everything in a month then
canceling it yeah like i feel well that i wouldn't feel bad about but this on like i'm just like she
doesn't have time to fill like i, I just feel obligated to.
Well, but it's not like you're just doing it for a week.
I don't know why you feel that way, but it's not like you're just seeing her for a week
and then bouncing.
You're just seeing her for like eight months, a year.
Yeah.
And then you're bouncing for a long time and coming back.
That's okay.
Yeah.
That should be expected.
That's true.
I just, I do couples therapy too.
I just can't do too much of it. It's,. I just, I do couples therapy too. I just can't do too much of it.
It's, it's just, and I do voice lessons.
Like there's just some, seems to be a lot of, there's a lot of like talking about my
limitations that I can only take so much of.
And then I do this podcast and talk about them too.
I just can only take so much every week.
But I will say that I am creeping back into meditation because I had nice reminders of
it.
I'm reading, um, Ian Carmel yeah he's comedian writer uh was writer on James Corden for the whole time I
think he ended up being head writer of it but he is so funny and he wrote this book called the
wet t-shirt club and it's about being fat fat kid fat fat adult and his experience with about being fat, fat kid, fat, fat adult. And his experience with being fat and societies just they're drilling into our heads that it's wrong and how he grew like growing up in the early 2000s, late 90s, how it was just so bad to be a fat kid because that was like the punchline to everything.
There was no body acceptance, all the stuff.
Fascinating read.
So funny.
So funny. So funny.
But then he kind of talks about how meditation is now a part of his self-care program. And even
just like reading that, I literally put the book down and was like, let me just try it for five
minutes. Like it really talked me into it again. And I was like, okay, let me just do this. And
then I'm kind of picking it back up. And then last night I went to see Jason Mraz and he was doing
like breath exercises during the show with the audience. He was like, let's all take a deep breath.
Wow.
And just let it out.
And then he was talking to us about just like being in the moment because he was talking about, you know that song that he has that's the remedy is the experience.
This is the dangerous liaisons.
I said the comedy is that it's serious.
He talked about that that song was written when he had just gotten a recording contract and his life was like blowing up and it was you know 30 years ago or whatever
and right when this happened his best friend got diagnosed with leukemia and he was really having
a struggle like dealing with the fact that he was having this amazing moment and that his friend
was having this awful moment and they both grew up in the same neighborhood they drank the same
water and like dated the same girl like how how could this be happening? Like, and then he was telling his friend about this and his friend was like,
man,
I just,
I'm not going to worry my life away,
which is a lyric in the song.
He was like the remedy.
The remedy is just live it.
Like it's being present.
It's just living right now.
It's not worrying about anything like the outcome.
The remedy is the experience and being present.
And that song,
it just breathe,
breathe new life into that song.
And then he also had a funny thing that was like,
let's all take a deep breath together right now.
And we all breathe in, breathe out.
And he goes, okay, let's take a deep breath yesterday.
Let's take one tomorrow.
And we're all like, what?
And he goes, yep, you can't do that.
All you have, whenever you're worried about yesterday,
whenever you're about tomorrow,
take a deep breath and get centered in right now.
And then he had another great aphorism, if that's the tomorrow, take a deep breath and get centered in right now. And then he had another great
aphorism, if that's
the word, I don't know. Let's find out. Aphorism.
That he said that
his friend, who he brought out on stage
to sing with him, they wrote a song about
be in your feet.
Or be where your feet are.
So if you're worrying about something, and you're
freaking out, and you're tripping out about
the future or the past, look at feet and just like be where your feet are and that's just
fucking helped me last night too because i was like kind of spiraling last night because it was
an outdoor concert and there was kind of like rump i wasn't getting good cell phone service
and there was definitely like a vibe in the air like the ions on the air felt tornado-ish
and there were storm clouds and there was thunder in the distance.
And it's out in this area of St. Louis that's really like flat land where it's almost tornado-y.
And I was like, oh my God, we wouldn't get tornado signal.
Tornadoes come out of nowhere.
Even weathermen can't really predict them.
Our phones are not getting signals to even check the weather and it's getting like blustery.
And then, and then I realized, oh my God.
Okay.
So then it was blustery, right?
It was like windy. And I was like, oh my God, Okay, so then it was blustery, right? It was windy.
And I was like, oh my God, a tornado is coming.
And I was like, we should probably leave.
And then all of a sudden it got really calm and the wind stopped.
And I was like, oh good, it stopped.
And then I go, wait a second, the calm before the storm.
So I was like, oh my God.
Another aphorism.
And then I realized nothing could happen in that moment that wouldn't allow my brain to convince myself that a tornado is coming.
If it's calm, if it's windy, no matter what, a tornado is coming. And then he said the thing
about be where your feet are. And I just was like, okay, if I die in a tornado right now,
it's fine. Like I am, I'm doing my best to avoid that. But sometimes you can't.
But in a tornado, your feet would go off the ground and you'd be floating.
Yeah, my feet, oh, I would get probably bisected by a stop sign. And then my feet would be your feet would still be on the ground. You can't miles from where my body would be found. Torture. Yeah, it's so I just like I needed that reminder of like be present. And then also another thing that like kind of, you know, I think we're always getting these messages and they just sink in when we need them have you seen neil brennan's latest special the one where he's happy now yeah yeah i well i haven't seen it i listened
to it while playing basketball and i didn't i listened to it too yeah i listened to it down
two times the speed because that's just how i do things and i was closing my eyes because i was
trying to sleep but i was like let me put on something that's inspiring i stayed awake the
whole time i thought it was fucking so good yeah I thought it was nearly every joke was
like a closer level of joke in terms of just like I don't know acuity and uh the just um making me
think about a thing in a way I never have and like kind of like sending me off with a new perception
of how I used to compare things his comparison from female organs orgasms
to the uber app is worth this watching the whole special alone because that was so fucking good
and so on point I love when an analogy isn't just for comedic sake but actually explains something
in such a genuine way that you don't really have to stretch too far to make it fit it was amazing
but he said in the special about all these influencers,
you know,
he calls them like,
I forget what he calls them.
Like,
like clasped hand where they like kind of do this.
Hey man.
And,
um,
and a lot of them have the story of,
especially the women of like trauma and how like no one believed in me and I did it.
And he's like,
no one thinks about you.
And I've heard that said before.
And so at first I was like,
where's this going?
And he goes,
there's no one sitting up at night being like, Oh, I hope that bitch doesn't start her own business.
And that was so funny to me because no one is thinking about you.
Even if you're someone in the spotlight, like they might comment shit, but they're not really preoccupied with you.
And so my failures or my limitations are really
only my own to fret over and that is my own choice and i don't really need to think about
how i'm perceived because yes i'm perceived but it's really i know this but it doesn't really
matter and it all amounts to nothing in the end i won't worry my life away i was like oh my god yeah we all amount to nothing in the end
like let's not fret about this stuff um but that at the same time work needs to be done and the
only way to get work done is to worry to be fair i will say this there i do have a list of about
five to seven people who i do wish would not succeed in their own business i think about that
i have about seven five enemies that i'm like you know once a week I'm like let me see
what they're doing
really absolutely
absolutely
five enemies who have
done me wrong who when
I see them fail I
go get what you deserve
yeah okay well let's take that apart
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Okay, so you have these enemies that you hope do not succeed
because you probably think they're not talented.
They probably scorned you in some way,
or I'm guessing they just aren't that talented,
and you're resentful of their success.
Is that mostly it?
No, no.
I'm never resentful of people's success that have nothing to do with me. It's people who have actively hurt me
in this business or in, you know, that have done things that are like,
that were, were that conflicted with my goals. Yeah. And I go, if I ever get the chance to,
to sabotage you, I will. And if you ever fail, I will laugh. And if you succeed, I'll be upset.
You know what I could focus on?
I could let go of that.
I think I can help everyone with this.
When someone you hate succeeds, just know that nothing lasts forever.
And the only worst thing than not succeeding is when you succeed and then you lose it, which everyone will.
No one just keeps succeeding except like Bezos.
You know what I mean?
Like no one,
everyone's going to have a downfall.
Someone's business that everyone's talking about
or some recipe they made on TikTok
and they're getting a bunch of attention
or they post,
like some girl from your group of friends
who's like has a following in some way
and she thinks she's hot shit. She's eventually like has a following in some way and she thinks she's hot
shit she's eventually gonna lose that in some way either she's not gonna keep growing in the way she
wants or it's gonna stagnate and there's going to be a severe disappointment in herself and I only
know this because I've experienced it myself and it's my own thing that I think about the second
I get anything I always just think about when I'm going to lose it. So I think about that when I get jealous of other people, that they will lose it.
Yeah.
And that's soothing to me because that hurts worse than maybe never even getting it.
I mean, I just want to be clear.
This isn't jealousy.
This is just as pure animosity directed at these people that I just want to destroy.
You've got to have a little bit of jealousy.
Well, yeah, if they got things and then I was like, why?
But even if they don't have things, I'm like, I just want you to fail.
And I know this makes me sound like a bad person.
I probably should.
I should release myself of this anger.
Like, you know, when you it's like drinking poison and expecting it to hurt the other person.
But no, I believe that everybody should have at least five enemies.
And if you don't have five enemies, you're just not trying hard enough.
You're not you're not trying to succeed. You're doing something wrong. You't have five enemies, you're just not trying hard enough. You're not trying to succeed.
You're doing something wrong
if you don't have five enemies.
I really can't think of a single enemy I have.
Maybe I can think of some people,
but I don't really wish them ill.
I can think of some people
I just don't want to run into
because they cause me stress
and I don't want to deal with their bullshit.
And I know that they could suck me back in and like kind of ruin my life.
And if they even, it's almost like the way I felt in high school where like there are
some people like the class clown or the guy that the kid that makes fun of people's looks.
I would just want to be invisible to that guy.
You know, and that's kind of the way I feel about these people is that I think they might
know the truth about me and I want to be very silent to them so that they
don't call it out and make fun of me to other people or something.
I think that's my,
my enemy.
It's probably like someone like you that I've,
you know what I mean?
Like the way you feel about these people is probably the way that they feel
about me.
Like I've somehow wronged.
I just want to be clear.
I,
when I,
when I have these enemies,
I don't want them to get sick.
I don't want them to be some tragedy to befall them.
I don't want them to be even sad.
I just want them to specifically fail at the thing that they...
That's sad.
Usually it's career related.
And that's like worse than being sick.
I would rather be sick than fail at my career.
Honestly.
I mean, but these... Wouldn't most career. Honestly. I mean, but these.
Wouldn't most people?
No, I don't think so.
Okay.
Being sick is the worst thing. Can I ask you this?
Okay.
The other day we were talking about the submarine.
Oh, yeah.
The little sub.
Again.
Wow.
Yeah.
Because Spade has a joke about it where he's like, I miss that crazy little sub.
He talks about it.
And so we were talking about it,
and Bobby Miyamoto, who opens for us in Vegas sometimes,
he was there, and he was saying,
that's not like the worst way to die,
because I was talking about how they probably actually died,
which Bill Dixon, who you're working with on Tim Dillon's thing,
Bill Dixon enlightened me to how the,
we all think the sub just like all of a sudden,
it was like, and it just imploded,
and they died in a split second and they didn't even know but what's more likely
and this is the thing i i just it's almost like the uh human centipede where i've like ruined it
for my mom and now she can't get it out of her head yeah like literally earmuffs for people if
you want to not hear about a horrific death but they probably lost power and
started plummeting down nose diving all alive and then it was imploded as soon as it reached the
pressure that it was going to have that pressure happen but at first it was a lot of screaming
and the toilet emptying to the bottom and them all like all five of them kind of in the nose of it
climbing all over each other screaming to death until it imploded.
The noise is being made.
And that sounds horrific, right?
But then Bobby was like,
that's, I mean, in the scheme of things,
it's not the worst.
I go, how is that not the worst?
And he goes, it's better than dying
of like some kind of long-term cancer.
And maybe I'm naive,
but I would take long-term cancer
and I don't have any experience
with it and I'm not even like close personally people in my life that have died of cancer it
was pretty quickly um I just don't know that I would ever I don't know that I could choose the
submarine over that I just don't like to think I when people ask like hypotheticals like this I
just say I don't want to answer this question I don't want to answer oh yeah you sit these out
yeah but like yeah I remember
someone that's like me asking like ranking
Taylor Swift stuff I'm like no no comment
not gonna no song is better than the other
no one is worse everything's great
thinking of ways you possibly die
is like my Taylor Swift
it's like the opposite
oh you know you are
obsessed with it but you don't think about it but like the opposite oh you went no you are obsessed with it but you don't think about it
but like anytime you have free time that's what you do with it pretty much um no someone one time
i was at like a christmas party or something and someone was like uh what would you rather have
happen have your hands cut off or your feet cut off and my answer to that was what the fuck is
wrong with you that was my answer well that person
probably was struggling with social anxiety and had looked up some fun or no it wasn't like that
it wasn't we were friends we're friends yeah this was it wasn't like some stranger came to me i was
like hey man my name is greg although his name was greg no it wasn't it wasn't greg i think i
would rather that's a really tough one i think that's interesting these are these i would hate i don't want to think about either of those but but also thinking
about things like makes them happen like i had a oh my god i had a vision the other a really
horrible vision i've been having like almost final destination like no visual you're doing
this twisters thing out in theaters now by the way
out in theaters now and there's no romance in it not interested if glenn powell's not making out i
don't want to see it but actually i we are excited to see it chris and i we're we're pal heads but
um i have been visioning envisioning these horrific things which is not something that i
my mind would usually go to and i shudder and then i try to like shake it off and i go god i don't want that
but then i also have been looking so much into manifestation stuff and visualization and how
that can help it happen that i'm like what the get this out of my head yes you believe in the
power and it's making it worse oh it's making it so worse final thought yesterday
um okay so i got a i got a new car right i'm leasing a mercedes um 350 eqe electric car
4matic it's amazing it's fast it has like a light show inside I can make it pink it's like a
Taylor Swift car it has a white interior it's black on the outside it's beautiful it's so
fucking cool it has like the body of an MG or an AMG um it is the wheels it's it's like so
interesting and unique and people have said nice car to me when I drive past but it's not like
over the top it's not like the one I was driving the AMG I was driving around that made lots of noise and it's not chrome it's just
it just is fuck it it's the best car I'm so happy with it Chris really helped me find it he set it
up so that they just dropped the car off it to me I signed some papers I didn't have to stay there
all day beautiful I've had this car for a week. Yesterday, I have a garage at my apartment building. When you enter the garage, you have like a little key card up in your rearview mirror.
Or it's supposed to like stick on your windshield.
But I always have to wave it because the sensor doesn't connect.
But I also had tint on my mom's car that I was driving before.
So we would wave it.
Chris goes, you don't have to wave it this time.
Keep it up in the flap.
And when you drive up, if you get close enough, it will sense it. So he showed me a couple times as we would wave it Chris goes you don't have to wave it this time keep it up in the flap and when you drive up if you get close enough it will sense it so he showed me a couple times as we were
driving it I was like oh that works I tried it yesterday morning and I'm like I have to get too
close this is making me nervous I'm just gonna like pull it out and wave it worked okay so I got
in and I go I'm just gonna go back to waving it this is too risky because I have before with my
mom's Lexus gotten too close.
The garage door opened and it like flipped the license plate.
It like bent the license plate and caught the license plate.
So I was like, not going to do that again.
But I didn't really think of like what could happen on a different car or like in a different way.
And Chris had never had it back to them.
And driving my new car home, we get to the garage and Chris is not taking it out of the visor because he knows that he can get close enough that it will sense it.
He's getting really, really close.
And then all of a sudden the garage opens. Close. And then all of a sudden, the garage opens.
Great.
And then there is a snag.
And there is an explosive sound.
And it rips my front bumper.
Oh, my God.
Off.
Cracks.
Like, the shellac.
Like, beautiful coating that's on the front.
Rips off the Mercedescedes logo the mercedes
logo as if i was in the movie twister flies up there is shrapnel all over it's like five
different pieces flying so violently in there crashes down on her windshield what the fuck
this happened rips dude it's and chris like, he is good with machines.
He knows how to use them.
He knows how to wield them.
He is in touch with them.
He does not make mistakes.
He is someone who is so good about treating things and machinery and objects and pieces of art and structure with such respect.
And he just goes goes oh my god
And I go it's okay it's okay it's okay
He goes no no
He gets out of the car he looks at it
And he just holds his head like
He falls to the ground
Is cradling his head
And is like catatonic
Like cannot speak just going
I'm so sorry oh my god
I'm just in the passenger seat and I refuse to get out
because I don't even want to see what the damage is it's fine it's the lease yeah and leases are
sacred I don't even know I mean I think I can understand his reaction because I grew up with
when dealing with leases people drilled into my brain that nothing bad can happen to a lease car
or you'll pay $700,000.
They'll never be able to drive again.
I'm glad that did not get in either of our heads because he, I think,
was just like, this is going to cost us a lot.
But I don't think it was about the lease.
It was just about – and he's just embarrassed that he'd made this dumb error.
But the damage is so comical. But he will not get off the ground.
I'm seriously sitting there for probably 90 seconds with the dog in my lap going, babe, it's OK.
And he's just like, no, no.
And nearly in tears.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so glazed.
Oh, God.
He can't even like make words.
It's like this is the and I go.
I'm like, it could be so much much worse we could have gotten into a collision we
could have the dog could have gotten run over like a million accidents happen all the time
accidents happen to everyone this is a relatively funny fine one yes it's gonna cost a lot of money
it's embarrassing it's unfortunate because this is a brand new car and i never have nice things
and we had just literally a minute before this we had just listened to taylor swift this is a brand new car and I never have nice things. And we had just literally a minute before this,
we had just listened to Taylor Swift's
This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things.
And I was like scream singing that.
And he was just so sad.
He collected all the pieces.
He put them back in the car.
We drive into the garage just silently.
And he's just like, I can't believe this.
I can't believe this.
And we get out.
I'm like, I'm not even going to look at it.
I'm with the dog.
The dog is so alarmed by Chris.
Like the dog is in tune with us.
Right.
And so the dog knows something is fucking wrong.
Even though I'm staying calm, I'm not expressing.
I'm just like grateful that it's I'm like in the scheme of things, we would be begging for this to happen.
If any other accident happened, that's worse than this.
We'd be like, God, I wish the front of my car was ripped off by the garage i was like it's this is a blessing yeah i promise you um
and we'll laugh about it someday i'm trying to make light of it and um and then the dog like
runs under my car to hide from the anxiety that it feels in the air it literally felt the items
change and takes the dogs never like hid from us
because it's scared or anything and it's not like chris was like throwing things he was just like so
sad that the dog like didn't want to be a part of it so we have to like coax the dog out of the
under the car and um and collect all the pieces and chris is just like he has to get on a call
within three minutes to like a zoom call that he has for work and he's just i hear him on there
just telling the story and just being like and he just can't stop apologizing and um and i just have
to say i'm very proud of myself because i did not care at all and i know that speaks to the fact
that i have money and it's money's not a op but it it does money is something to me and i mean it is
gonna cost money And we had just
gotten done with therapy where I was like, you know what? I want to get to a point where my money
is Chris's money. And like, if he wants to spend something on something stupid, like it, it, it
should come out of my money because like we're a partnership and he helps me be better. And if he
doesn't make a lot of money or enough money, what he does to live the life that I want him to live,
then we had just gotten done talking about it.
And I was like, I think you should pay for this one.
But no, that's what I was like.
No, I'll pay for it.
It's fine because your mistakes are my mistakes.
This is what a partnership is.
I forgive you.
I think even Max Verstappen, I was like, babe,
Max Verstappen would have made the same mistake.
He was like, no, that guy knows every, he would have studied the car.
He would have studied.
And I was like, no, he wouldn't.
This is not because you're a bad driver you can still do f1 um but i was proud of
myself that i did not do what my mom or my dad i think would have done chris how could you why did
you why do you think that you could just drive up to the thing and you think you think you could get
that close why can't you just take it out of the damn visor and shake it?
Why do you always, like, I just knew what my mom would be saying.
And, like, you know, I think people so often just want to find a blame of, like, why did this happen?
And why did you ruin my thing?
And I went to my girls' chat and I was like, I'm really proud of myself because I did not blame him.
I didn't care.
I forgave it immediately.
I was, like, laughing about it.
It will be okay.
And I think that is something I wish more people, I think I was just doing the golden rule because when I make
mistakes, I just want people to be easier about it because they, they have to know I didn't mean
to do that. And I think that I just knew that there, I go, babe, there's no way on earth you
would ever do anything to harm this car. You're obsessed with this car. You found this car for me.
You were the one that convinced me that I deserve nice things and that i should have this and that it's worth
you know and you were the one that talked the price down and negotiated like you you wouldn't
do this on like who i'm not gonna like hold you at fault for it but um it was it was just a lesson
and and he was like i really do appreciate how you he goes the only thing about you that i don't like
when it comes to money is that you don't know how much you have, but you really do have a good relationship with like objects and things.
And I remember, and Anya had said to me, she was like, if that were me, I'd be pissed because it's my car and I don't like people touching my things.
And I just don't, I don't have that.
It's not even your car.
It's owned by the bank.
That's a good point.
It's someone else's car in the future and they'll never know.
I mean, the Carfax will show what happened, but it'll be as good as new. But he did get some glue. So we're just going to glue things together until we can take it to the right place. But it ripped off everything, dude. But then the amount of damage that occurred is like a Charlie Chaplin movie.
Raining plastic pieces down on us as if we were in Twister.
And it was just like there was no cars behind us.
There was no urgency.
It just happened in this vacuum where we were alone to just see our car get fucked.
I got to imagine it was also relatively slow, too, because the thing's just opening.
Yeah, because it kind of was like and then it just
like a party confetti explosion oh my god of plat of expensive plastic but um i drove it later that
night to the last night to the jason morales show and i got home and oh we were watching i'm watching
this um the documentary on netflix about receivers and then i'm watching the one that dan suggested i
watch about quarterbacks and i'm watching the Mahomes one.
And Mahomes is talking about how quarterbacks have to recover so quickly
from making mistakes because they got the rest of the game and they can't be
focused on it.
They got to go on.
And so he was like,
I just don't,
I don't even mistakes.
I just let them in and out.
Like they just have to pass through.
I don't,
I can't dwell on things.
And I just reached over to Chris and I was like,
did you forgive yourself for the mistake you made today yet and he was like
no and i was like let's we got you gotta let this go you can't you remember who said that to us that
exact thing was uh rodney thomas the second at the super bowl he said that i don't i just don't
dwell on that stuff i don't think about mistakes and i just move on that's how that i think that's the mindset is he quarterback he's a safety um but i just want to remind everybody about
a movement that you've started that i think is i just want to repeat it because it has been like
uh it has created a fundamental change in both ally and i's uh life and i think it maybe went
under the radar you have this you have you've started a movement where you accept people's apologies and you don't force them to apologize more than once.
If someone apologizes, you accept it.
And we've all we've taken that advice and we've been applying it to our own lives.
And it is really it's hard to resist the urge to repeat, rake someone over the coals.
Yeah.
And it's just like,
if someone brings themselves to apologizing,
it's so,
it's,
it's so nice to just respond to that with grace and accept it.
And then you have to do the work of moving on.
Yes.
It's up to you now.
You,
they've passed the baton and it sucks because you didn't ask for the baton in the first place and they caused the baton to even be in play.
Yeah, that's I really it's it's the greatest gift you can give yourself and someone is just like if if someone apologizes, like that's what we're all looking for.
Nothing can really be you can't rewind what happened you can just like i always say if trump one day woke up and goes what the
fuck have i been doing and saying i'm embarrassed at my behavior i really it doesn't mean i don't
think he should be tried for his crimes and like pay the price because it sets an example for
society to not do those crimes yeah but if he were to wake up one day and anyone really and go what
was i thinking it needs to be in good faith.
It needs to be a real apology.
Like I can understand.
I'm disgusted with myself and I want to change and I'm going to do better.
I'd be like, you know what?
I actually forgive you.
I would literally forgive.
Yeah.
Like, and this doesn't apply to like a boyfriend who cheats on you over and over again.
Just goes, I'm sorry.
16 times.
This needs to be a good faith apology.
Really is like horror. you know what is a
key component for me is I'm horrified
by thinking about how I act and maybe that's
something just people say and they don't mean it but when people
are like I can't I don't know I don't
I don't want to be that person anymore
and here's what I'm gonna do so I don't
do it again like they show action
you can't be mad
yeah you can't we need to come up with a name
for this movement because i think
it's something some good marketing tool for shorthand because it's kind of hard to describe
what it is that we're like the forgive quick forgiveness or something because it's it's
important i think it's important and i think we should practice it more and then actually
that goes right fast forgiveness is great and here i am the guy who just said 10
minutes ago that i have five enemies who i want to destroy yeah but they never apologize they
never apologize exactly if they're not if they don't apologize keep those animosities going let
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