The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #484 Anya Marina's ASTEROID, A Hail Mary & Nikki's New Challenge

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

Nikki's hanging out with her BFF and pod bestie, Anya Marina. With her new album in tow, ASTEROID, Anya is sparking some deep conversations. Nikki and Anya are not fond of the feeling of waiting, whether it's about what will happen with the planet, the election, or the reception of an album. Nikki loves football because it’s fast paced. After a whirlwind weekend, she has a major epiphany about her material, especially after performing for an audience that wasn’t really feeling her. She’s also obsessed with Only Murders by Martin Short, and there’s a juicy reason behind it that most people don’t know. In her Final Thought, Nikki is taking a cold, hard look at her work and, with the help of friends, figuring out her next steps. Subscribe to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts to get this episode ad-free, and get exclusive bonus content: https://apple.co/nikkiglaserpodcast  . Watch this episode on our Youtube Channel: The Nikki Glaser Podcast Follow the pod on Instagram for bonus content: @NikkiGlaserPod Leave us your voicemail: Click Here To Record Nikki's Tour Dates: nikkiglaser.com/tour Brian’s Animations: youtube.com/@BrianFrange More Nikki: IG More Brian: IG More producer Noa: IGSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

John Stewart is back at The Daily Show, and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports, and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondents and contributors. And with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed? Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Nikki Glaser Podcast Here's Nikki Hello, here I am, welcome to the show, it's the Nikki Glaser Podcast

Exciting day on the show, welcoming back to the show She used to be a regular on it, she's been away for a bit, she's back She has a new album out, you just heard her voice Before you even hear her, mine, it's Anya Marina She's with us today Hi Via Zoom So happy to be back

What's up Anya What's up So happy you're here Noah and Brian are also here I'm in St. Louis in my studio Noah's in Arizona Brian's in LA Anya's in New York

We're holding down all of the time zones Whoa Wait are you Mountain Time Zone Noah? I forget what Arizona does right now. I have no idea what time zone Arizona is. Arizona doesn't do anything, I thought. I know, so what does that mean for them right now? You know what I mean?

I just go by your time. So I'm in central time mentally. You would be in mountain time. What time is it to you right now? It's 9, 10 a.m. Okay, you're Pacific. Western time. Okay, so we don't have mountain time representedm. Okay, you're Pacific. We don't have mountain time

represented today. But shout out to all those people on the slopes right now. I don't even know if they're on the slopes right now. It is fucking 86 degrees in St. Louis. It's October 31st. I think we're setting... We set a record yesterday for the highest temperature ever this late in

the game. How's the weather where you guys are? Is that interesting? No, let's skip it. Wait, unless it is. Is it interesting? The weather is not interesting over here, but I'm excited that we keep breaking new records. I mean, we're an amazing streak. It's so fun. U-S-A.

U-S-A. It does make climate change fun when you are breaking records. It sounds like the Olympics. Yeah, we broke the record for fastest death of the world. Yeah. I can't believe more people aren't dying.

Oh, climate news? Yeah, I can't tell you right now what it is. But I do remember seeing it on Instagram, which is where I get my news. There was something good happening. There was something good happening. There was something good. Yeah. The temperature was eating up the carbon in the ocean or some shit. Something like this is the first time in many years

that the planet actually isn't getting hotter. I don't know. I scrolled it. That can't be true, but that absolutely can't be true. Who posted that? J.D. Vance? It was science.

It was really like science. I can look it up. No, the thing that always kind of relaxes my body when I get tense about climate change is that when people go, no, the planet's totally fine. Don't worry. The planet is good to go. We're dying. We're going to die off.

It is going to, it's heating up like a fever does when your body gets a fever it's trying to fight an infection we're an infection that it's trying to fight off and um and it's just going through its natural and and all uh life will probably die off but we will actually no not all no no because The Asteroid hit back in 1988. What year was that? When that fucking thing hit that I read about in the New Yorker? Nobody knows the actual year. Well, that's what I was setting up for.

Anya's album is called Asteroid, so another Asteroid just hit last week. It dropped. Anya's album is called Asteroid, which is the coolest name for an album ever. How did you decide on that being the name? I think I was like in the car with you maybe when you were like, should it be this or this? I think so too.

Well, there's a song on there called Asteroid that's about like just being depressed and walking out into nature and just being like, fuck everything. When you have a fight with somebody and you're just like, how have I done all this? When you have a fight with Matt Pond? Yeah. With somebody. My husband. It's a very specific song to relate to.

Yeah. Okay. So when you have a fight with someone and you walk out into nature and. When you're just like, have you ever had this where you're like, how am I in the midst of a fight? Like a seven year old. And I've done so much work on myself.

How is that possible? And then you go out in the woods and you think about how all the dinosaurs are dead. And what's the point? Totally point totally i do i go into nature a lot i need to go on walks a lot and so i went for a walk this particular day and was just like oh i just want to fucking get hit by an asteroid or something and i like and i was thinking about that like just picturing like laying down in a field and staring up at the sky. And sometimes that puts me in a good mood. And sometimes I like the eeriness of it. There's a line in the song about the asteroid coming right for me.

So I like that it could be positive or negative. Maybe. That used to be my childhood fear. I wouldn't like to go look at the stars in Michigan. We would go to Michigan and it's so dark up there. There's not a lot of light around you. So at night you can see all the stars in michigan we would go to michigan and it's so dark up there like there's not a lot of like you know light around you so at night you can see so all the stars you know it's like so cool to go out and sit on the dock it's so dark and um i used to be terrified too because if i i was scared as one of the shooting stars was gonna like fall on me same with fireworks but

like what uh um that's crazy because they could how all those things could fall on you during the day too or anywhere yeah and also who do i think i am that's gonna hit me like i think that's why when when people say i'm gonna die in a plane crash i always go you're not special enough and someone told me that recently that i said that to them years ago and they were like it helps me all the time because you harshly were like you're not that special that you're gonna to be the one that gets to die in a passenger jet crashing, one of the only ones that's happened in this

fucking... Who do you think you are, Kobe? Well, that wasn't a passenger jet. I mean, people who fly Southwest, Delta, United, those flights don't go down, you guys, in America. Maybe Malaysian Air, Egypt Air. Who do you think you are a person from singapore

those flights i i'm not trying i'm not being racist when i say this but like i feel like most times when i hear about a passenger jet going down it's in malaysia or singapore it's no it's not i mean at least for now i've researched it i mean there have been ones there was one right after september 11th that got no love because we were still about September 11th. And then as soon as we realized it wasn't a terrorist attack, we were like, moving on. But it crashed in Long Island.

There was one. But to be fair, that plane was filled with people from Malaysia. You're really pushing the Malaysia thing. Stop. I just meant like, you know, if you're a scared traveler and you're scared of flying, truly think about that. Like, you're not that flying, truly think about that. You're not that important.

You're not going to win the lottery. You're going to die of cancer or heart attack just like everyone else. But it's such a normal childhood thing. I remember when I skipped school one day and I was like, oh, TV still happens when I'm at home yes yes because you are still learning that like thing like you don't know that other people have experiences what is it called when you like learn that as a child i think i've asked this on this podcast a million times yeah yeah my dog also doesn't have object permanence that's why we can all do those tiktok challenges where you like put up a sheet and then your dog is looking at you and then you run another room and you drop the sheet and the dog is like one of my favorite things is when i take my dog to the park off leash and she's just kind of like getting a little brazen i'm like

oh she hasn't checked in on me in a little bit and then i run behind a tree and i watch her like sniffing something and then i see her go to like oh where's my owner and then like go to look and then she's like and then she freaks out and starts like trotting around it's so cute it reminds me that i'm special and that i'm loved and that she does care and do you ever do that when she does that you think like maybe one day i will die in a plane crash yeah yeah um yeah it reminds them who's boss too matt and i always like play dead around the house which is fun or we'll hide and we'll see how good her sense of smell is we'll like hide in the basement oh and pretend we're dead we'll hide and we'll see how good her sense of smell is. We'll hide in the basement and pretend we're dead.

It's probably me. Pretend you're dead is the weird part of it. I think hiding is one thing, but that you have to put in your debt. You want to see if your dog would be sad if you died. Yeah, my sister and I used to do it to my dad all the time, too. Yeah, I was going to say this is a childhood thing.

Daddy, let me know that you care daddy um yeah when you're a kid you're just like so selfish you don't know about that's why it's so amazing when there are like little kids that you know do like a a food drive or like they like earn money for the local animal shelter when kids like have a heart it's so beautiful and because it's not really that natural for them to like i mean i think for them to be caring and sweet but like for them to like think about the world a bigger world than themselves is i mean for anyone to do that is fucking rare i mean ever anyone who like my assistant i'll sometimes be

like hey uh can i get this information she's like oh yeah i'll do it when i get home and then she's like sorry i was volunteering i'm like what where she volunteers at a soup kitchen like a local shelter and like sorts food and hands out food and she was like it was a rough day today i had to leave early it was just like too sad or. There'll be moments where she says that. And Noah, you worked at a community garden. Where they grow food for unsheltered.

Yesterday, Matt and I decided we were going to volunteer at the local voting center, but we did that out of selfishness because we were like, these people are slow. It was such a long line. So he's like, next year we're volunteering and we're going to do this just to keep this efficient. I have two friends.

Next year when the election doesn't feel as important. When you kind of forget to even vote next year. I have two friends who do that on Long Island. They volunteer at the election. Steinman and Olive. Ooh, you know Steinman. Oh yeah, I remember him from the beginning. Yeah, and olive who you know steinman oh yeah i remember him from um yeah and they uh yeah they do it every year and it's just like it's just so poorly organized and

run it's like very difficult when you're volunteering to even like make uh make it better because it's just they need you they desperately need volunteers especially now that like you know all the election interference conspiracies the people who do this are like actually somewhat in danger but yeah it's really like the system is uh not efficient oh really i'm just kidding efficient um it's a week from now is going to be a different world like i don't even't even know. I'm like in, I don't even, I think I'm going crazy. I think I'm starting to have like a, like a pre-PTSD or something. Pre-panic attack.

Well, do you think next week we'll have certainty? No. No. I mean, yes. Well, we will. I think think someone will so one side will and then i hopefully and then i think the other there will be if if things go the way i would like them to i think there will be um it'll still be scary but in if i if they go the other way i just literally don't know what my body will do i mean i don't know what the world will do but i don't know what my physical body will do um after the first time it happened i

remember my mom was so upset i like sent her flowers but i was like it's gonna be okay it's just this is it was a new kind of fear and now it feels like i'm going i just i just don't i i can't even i don't even know what to say i don sent your mom flowers? Yeah, because she was crying all day when Trump won. She couldn't stop crying. She's so happy. And I also just like. Tears of joy. That's funny.

I think my mom, it might kill her. I'm not even joking you. Like if you care about Julie Glazer living, will you please vote for Kamala? Because I think it will kill her i'm emotionally i she is so upset about him um that if he wins the way she reacted last time eight years ago it was um i just don't know that it's gonna be okay for her like i'm really worried about her body like breaking down um because she was upset. I didn't even think about that until now. Maybe that's what I'm worried about, is what

my fragile mom will do. We can't have Kamala in office. She wants to give trans surgeries to rapists in jail. Haven't you heard? Wait, no. I thought the trans rapists are going to come into the schools and do the surgeries during

recess. To the kids? do the surgeries during recess. To the kids. Yeah, with their teeth. Well, that's what, I mean, that's the second phase. I haven't been on a podcast in a while. That's the second phase. The new tone. No, they really, he's really saying that they are, he said on multiple speeches that they are giving trans surgeries to kids in elementary school. That your kid will leave Jimmy and come home Jane.

Which is, there's it's just, it's never happened. It will never happen. Kimmel last night was great because he was like, please just send this monologue. This is for your Republican friends. No Republicans are going to watch it. No fucking, it's just no, there's no

chance of that. No, they're Adam Carolla fans, not Jimmy Kimmel. But it was just interesting because i don't watch his speeches and i don't really pay attention to all the things he says because how can you that he goes on for four hours every speech and people like half his audience even fucking leaves people that like him so how are people that don't like him supposed to listen to all of it but they had a really like if you just want to hear some of the craziest shit that's being said right now that you might not be aware of because it just is like a bed of nails and it just all seems too much. And you're like, oh, there's no way.

It's crazier than you even think. It's just so upsetting. But in a week from now, it'll just be more upsetting and that'll be great. It'll take longer than a week. We're not going to know on Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday. It's going to go into the next week for the Swing States, I bet, just like last time.

Yeah. Well, that's what i think is that we'll be uncertain or i just hope we're not but because that's such an uncomfortable place just in life in general you think it's gonna be so close it's gonna be uncertain yeah they're gonna be counting those votes and contesting those votes i don't think it's gonna be close you think it's gonna be a blowout you're you're on the bob castrone method yeah one of our writers on um the nfl thing we did last week we were all kind of like what's who what do you guys think like i'm always scared to ask a group of people like what do you like because everyone's paying more attention than i

am of the people i hang out with so when i ask them i'm always just like brace for impact and bob castrone good friend head writer on not safe Nikki Glaser, is positive it's going to be Kamala's going to win the landslide. And I was really happy to hear that. And then everyone was kind of like on board. And then he said something and everyone was like, oh, bullshit. And she's going to win Texas. And we're like, you're a dumbass. And you guys go, fuck you.

You're no shit, Bob. guys go fuck you all i know that if you live in missouri please vote yes on uh yes on amendment three uh protect women's rights to uh have autonomy over their own bodies vote yes on three that's very very important um for everyone to keep everyone safe and i think both sides really do agree they've done a lot of polling and both both sides kind of agree on the fact that women should have access to safe abortions. I don't think we should be able to vote for any federal offices, honestly. I live in Culver City, which is only 18,000 to 20,000 people. It's like a small town. It's smaller than the town I grew up in, even though it's in the middle of LA.

And we get to vote for culver city city council and like the stuff that you're like debating about which council members to pick is like which stop signs to put up and like what we're gonna do with like the the homeless encampment outside the sprouts it's like these little small why shouldn't you be voting on that stuff that's i think that's the best stuff to vote for yeah that's what i'm saying instead of voting for like a federal who's your senator it's like that doesn't fucking matter yes it does it doesn't fucking matter brian i think it does do not start this it doesn't matter bullshit to listen everybody just jump in a lake go into the woods and look for an asteroid yeah we should talk about um we were saying when things are not certain uncertainty when things can go either way

you hate it can't stand it um like do you have an example of like your own waiting for an email reply hate like waiting on an answer of any kind really really difficult to tolerate the uncertainty of life. I mean, go back to dating. Like, I know it's been a long time for you since you were single. There is nothing worse than waiting for a text back. It's just like,

hell, you're just like, fuck. Thrilling. It makes you feel alive. It makes you like, yeah, it gets your heart racing.

When it finally comes through through there's like an exciting moment like i don't really get much of that in life anymore like you know news comes in of like you're gonna host the golden globes and it's fun for a second and then it's like oh boy gotta work but like when a guy texts you back it's's never like, oh, no, I've got to work. Like, it's just like, oh, this will be fun. There's no like getting jobs is always a great. It's great news or getting an assignment or something, a payday coming up. But then you're like, oh, there's work attached, but not with crushes. That stuff is so fun.

It can be. Yeah, that's true. But I mean, there's a reason they call it a crush, too, because it can also be so painful. Is that why they call it a crush? Yeah, that's true. But I mean, there's a reason they call it a crush too, because it can also be so painful. Is that why they call it a crush? Yeah, probably it is. I think. Because you're just like, oh, it is fun, but it can hurt too. I mean, it doesn't always go your way either.

It can be like, oh, they're dating somebody else or they're not ready to be back. No, it doesn't ever go your way until it does go your way. And even when it does go your way, like then it's a whole other slew of things that'll happen. Or like, I'm sure there are actors listening that have auditioned for something and it's just hell waiting to find out. Did you get it? No, you can't even wait.

Like if you're an actor, you should just audition and forget about it because the chances of it happening are the same chances you dying in a plane crash yes totally that's why i like um football you just move on i'm always like you know like i've talked about before but i'm always like is that guy is so embarrassed is that kicker so embarrassed that it like hit the pole like his what he has literally one job and it like didn't go like it's never changed like the distance changes but like just kick it as far as you can that way and then like you are hired and

you're paid millions to do this and you and you don't do it is that guy like like is his life ruined now and what i've heard is like no in football you just kind of move on well they get fired like they'll get fired that week oh Oh, yeah, you move on to another team or you move on to a new career. Wait, over the weekend, did you see, I'm sure you watched the Bears game in the Chargers and saw that. I've heard it was the worst.

I listened to the Ringer podcast because I was like going down a deep dive on that play because it just seemed so insane and I wanted to understand the insanity and there was so much talk around it. I watched like a Bill Belichick talking about it. Will you describe that play because it just seemed so insane and i wanted to understand the insanity and there's so much talk around it i watched like a bill belichick talking about it um will you describe that play and tell me why i these guys on the ringer podcast which is i guess a very popular sports podcast called it without hyperbole the literal worst play they have ever seen in any sport okay so the thing is the one guy had the ball.

Yeah, Anya. I'll let Brian take it. I wouldn't agree with that hyperbole. I've seen worse. I saw worse this weekend. I mean, I guess if you're calling it a play, well, yeah, like the New Orleans Pelicans, who's an NBA basketball team, they lost to the

Warriors in the most... Shaq. You know Shaq? He was on TNT after... No, it was Charles Barkley. Sorry. They both do announcers. Yeah. Charles Barkley.

Yeah, it wasn't a racist thing. I mean, it was just... They're just both black men and I thought it doesn't matter. Really famous black men from the 90s who played professional basketball and now are...

So Charles Barkley said that that was the most embarrassing loss he's ever seen because the Pelicans were up by 20 points. The Warriors did not have their best two players, and they were just cruising. And then

the way the Warriors, these bench players, these people I've never even heard of them, and I watched the college games, the way that these bench players made the Pelicans their bitch was so embarrassing it was like it was like they just dominated them for three full quarters all of them like they all got to share in that embarrassment but like wasn't the play from the charger the the the um well the reason why that was so bad was because it was so unlikely that they would lose in that fashion.

It wasn't the Chargers. It was the Washington Guardians. It was the Commanders. Commanders. Commanders versus Bears. The good news is, did you know that for the last, I think it was 17 out of 20 elections, when the Washington team, whether it was the Redskins, used to be the Redskins, now the Commanders, when the Redskins win, the incumbent party, because they're the DC team, the incumbent party wins the presidency.

When they lose the week of the election, then the challenger wins the presidency. So because the Commanders won this game, that means that Kamala should win the presidency based on precedent based on nothing based on like a radio station doing like which bowl is is the our dog mascot gonna eat out 20 times yeah okay all right well that's interesting but okay this guy threw a hail mary pass yeah and in the last seconds of the game to, and they were going to lose. Right. They were down by like four or five points. And the guy who was going to catch it,

or the one, one of the defenders, defenders was like talking shit to the crowd, not even realizing that like a play was being made and that a ball was like hurling towards him. The crowd had to be like, dude, a ball.

And then they scrambled to stop it they all just all of the defenders like descend on what where the ball was they all go up and hit it he hits it like a volleyball one of the players hits it like a volleyball it just then perfectly falls into the hands of um i forget who a guy in the end zone and they get a touchdown and they win the game and it was like from the wasn't it from like the 30 yard line like so far away it was so far away it was like 40 or 30 yard line it was

a Hail Mary it was a last ditch effort and the commanders won it was it was extremely disappointing for any Bears fan and I also $200 Bears fans to like okay if you have money on the game fine but like $200 the Bears will win I was not $200 on the game. But isn't that exciting for Bears fans too? Like, okay, if you have money on the game, fine. But like...

$200 the Bears will win. I was spending that money. As a sports fan, don't you want crazy shit like that to happen? Like, maybe not because it's such a messy play and you're so disappointed. But like, isn't that stuff to me

as a new sports fan? I was like obsessed with this because it was so rare and like fucked up and that so many people were making fun of it. That to me was more exciting than if my team won, but actually I don't have a team

so maybe I don't know what that's like. That one was a little less exciting because it was so unbelievable and the person who caught the ball didn't have to do anything. It was like he was in the stands. He was there by design. That's the way they do their Hail Marys.

They have a big clump, and then there's always one guy behind the clump to get the tip backs. But he really didn't have to do anything. It was just pure stupidity by the guy who just swatted it up and luck. And it would be one thing if the receiver leaped up in the air and just got a little higher than everyone else and grabbed it down. That's the point that I think that I was saying maybe is the reason that people don't care is because it was just all bad. There was nothing impressive about any of it except the throw. The throw was pretty good. Jaden Daniels, who was the quarterback, shouldn't get any credit for that happening.

It was pure luck but that's to me i couldn't stop like researching it and trying to find other people's and then i was like talking to so many sports fans and no one knew about it i was like did you guys see that hail mary pass that and and everyone was just like no i don't like i talked to so many people and men i should say that care about football and they're like no i say that. And I couldn't describe it because I don't have the verbiage for it. But I was excited that I was excited about it. But now I'm mad at myself because I get excited about the wrong things. Finally, I understand football.

It's not even the right thing to get excited about. That's okay to be excited. That was an exciting play. It was like a holy shit, but not like holy shit that was amazing it was like holy shit can you believe how stupid that guy is and how lucky the commanders just got okay all right well maybe that's my thing is i just like rare crazy i like bad performances i like people but but also at the same time when it comes to comedy i do not like watching people bomb i don't like people like totally missing it and having a really bad showing. I like people being and I don't like people being really impressive either.

I like to leave the room for that as well. It threatens me, both of them. OK, we'll be back after this. Jon Stewart is back at The Daily Show and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with The Daily Show Ears Edition Podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports, and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondents and contributors. And with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else ready to laugh and stay informed listen on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts

all right we're back um anya marina has a new album out asteroid you can find it on spotify uh apple wherever you get your music you can order um the vinyl um and i'm sure other is there other ways to order it on your marina.com yeah do people buy cds i think cds are the new vinyl like gen z is like into it how to play a cd i'm selling a lot of vinyl and uh i'd say even more vinyl than c CDs but not all that much more. I'd say it's like 70% of the sales are vinyl and 30 are CDs. I don't know where... People don't have CD players

like a retro setup in their cars. Surprisingly. I'm like, where are you guys going to play this? A lot of people at shows buy CDs because it's easier to carry around. But don't you just plug your phone into the- Dashboard. Into the car?

I think some people just want something- People have old cars. To put on their, like Sean O'Brien just bought a vinyl and he's like, I can't wait to put this on my mantle. Yeah, vinyl makes sense because it's not just about playing the record.

I think it's about having a big portrait kind of thing, like something to frame. But a CD, no one's really framing CDs. The first time I saw Anya Marina was on a vinyl in your apartment. Before I ever met you, Nikki had a prominently displayed Anya Marina album on a shelf. Is that true? And I said, who's that?

And she goes, oh, don't ask. Bane of my existence. It's a long story. Worst roommate I ever had. Not true at all. Best roommate I ever had, for sure. Remember when we first moved in together and I could not get any fucking furniture together?

And you were like, I hate to say this, but our house looks like American Psycho. because we lived in this weird apartment in new york where all of the kitchen you um furniture was like industrial like on the bear it's like all like stainless steel and it really did look like american psycho in our apartment just stainless steel counters your problem to get furniture well you were like traveling a lot and i was like i'll get stuff and i just kept like cutting out pictures and putting them on my vision board or whatever and you were like babe we need a couch it was three weeks in and you're like i'm going to ikea with sabrina jalees and we're getting a couch and then i remember you're like well you just trust me i'm

like okay it was more like we just trust sabrina because i just i wouldn't have gone on my own to do it i just knew that i like she has really good style and so i just knew i just will get the couch that sabrina says to get and you were so right i still have that couch it's no way oh yeah really i bought an ikea cover you can buy covers that perfectly fit this thing on etsy and now we just have it's just blue it used to be this ugly tan color. And now we have a blue one that's ugly. But the shape is right.

That's so funny you still have that couch. Yeah, that was a good situation we had. I loved being roommates. It was so fun. It was so fun. I really miss having somebody to bounce things off of every day.

And I really miss someone being gone a lot of the day. That's what I was going to say. I'm surprised you're still friends after living together. I think it's an unlikely story. We only lived together like two years. And then I missed her so much. She went to LA. You went to do Not Safe.

And that was the first time I was like oh this that's right like i've always been the friend that travels and all my friends were always like i haven't heard from you in months and then i remember like you went and moved to l.a and i was like i haven't heard from nikki in like a month and a half and i remember i was like this is before facetime was like would you want to skype and i remember skyping with you one day we did a skype and you were like in the middle of a writer's meeting and it was so not the right time and I remember I was just like I need I need to give her space she's working hard I don't remember this at all but I am a friend that if it's if I'm not like if we're not doing the thing where we always see each other like my friendships are

always based on like we're working together or we live near each other. We have a ritual where we go to a class together. And if we're not doing that, I don't stay in touch. It's almost like I miss them so much I don't want to be reminded that we don't have that thing anymore. So I just cut it off. And I've hurt some friends' feelings, I think when I'm like out of sight, out of mind, but girls chat has kept me hard.

Um, very much, uh, plugged into like girls. Chat's important. It's the most important thing ever. The other day, hollow was on being like,

I don't, you know, it's hard to make friends wherever I am. I'm like, get on girls chat more. It gives you the illusion that you have friends where you are. I feel, I don't like really crave friends when i'm in st louis because i have girls i'm i'm this is the only time where i'm like still

enough but i'm not really like hanging with family that much suffocated by family i'm kind of doing my own thing um when i in St. Louis, like alone most of the time. But I have girls. I'm never alone because I always have the girls chat to go listen to something or put something out there. Do you get lonely ever? Yes. I cannot, cannot be. Like if I get home, like last night I got home.

Was that last night jesus fucking christ i can't even talk to you about my weekend it it's just it you want to talk to us about your weekend i can't it doesn't even it doesn't make it my life doesn't make sense right now it's so busy it's i've asked for it this is it isn't interesting it's just insane uh how much travel i did this weekend but i got home last night at nine and i asked my mom to pick me up in the morning, and she said, I guess. I heard that. Literally, I guess.

And I go, you don't have to. I'll just get an Uber. I just wanted to see you. You were literally in another country. You've been bouncing all over. I was in Mexico yesterday morning, and I was like, Mom, I said to my mom and dad, hey, is there any way that you guys could pick me up with the dog at 9 o'clock I know it's late I land then I guess I go never mind please do not you're not doing it and she was like no I'll do it I got nothing else going on I go yeah I know

that's why I asked like why would your dad is tennis okay does he have tennis till nine why doesn't he come yeah well he has tennis at seven it probably goes till nine okay well I'll just get an uber I'll get Goldie in the morning I just wanted my dog because i am having a rough day and um and i want to have a rough night r-u-f-f and um she was like i'll get you well i can do it nick i'm just like this is not like this this doesn't feel good like i thank you so much but no thank you and then it was just a fight of like i'm gonna get you and then she did and it was nice but that's i i when i get home from the road on a night and then i get home and i have nothing to do at night and there's no boyfriend here to like talk to me and watch tv with i just i don't know what, my whole kitchen will get eaten.

I will eat until I am ready to go to sleep and then I will go to, like I sleep or eat and I cannot watch TV without eating or talking to someone. So if no one's there to talk to, I will be eating the whole time until I feel sick and then I go to bed.

And last night I watched Only Murders and I had a lot to say about that to Anya. Is this like a new season? Nope. There is. I'm just trying to watch things for the Goldena. Is this like a new season? Nope. There is. I'm just trying to watch things for the Golden Globes that are like ubiquitous that everyone knows about that may or may not be. You know, Only Murders is just something that's been around since 2021.

Oh, okay. I know about it. It's really great to start with season one because it's the beginning of a journey that really is very important. Oh, my God. Like, I knew your impression was good, but until I started watching last night, like I started talking like her to my dog

and my dog was so alarmed and like kind of got scared. I can't do it. That was so, honestly, Anya, that was literal AI perfection. It's exactly how she sounds. It gets worse as the seasons continue. not worse i don't if you're listening so no it just gets more froggy ish um it uh it is an interesting show i like the fact

that um steve martin wrote it i just think that is so cool that someone in their 70s is still making like a hit tv show and like being so creative and it really is a creative idea for a show. I mean, this isn't new to anyone. Most people have seen the show. Martin Short is delightful. I didn't even know that. Slater Gomez is beautiful.

Steve Martin's good too. Steve Martin is amazing and I was talking to Jenen zm about it because she was like please girl will you please watch only murders because she's on season four and i desperately all okay here's why i pretend i'm watching it for the golden globes nikki shut the fuck up it's it's advantageous that it also is a you know probably a golden globe contender and it's nice that i would watch it you know i'm watching it because martin short

and meryl streep are dating and they fucking got together because of that show. Oh, I didn't know that. And it's so damn cute, and I can't wait to see them fall in love on screen. It's one of my favorite things. You don't know they're dating? I have so many goosebumps right now on my heart. People are saying it's Taylor and Travis

for people who don't like sports. That's so cute, because they have such crazy chemistry, and I'm getting horned up watching them. Horned up. They are so cute they first spotted like holding hands on the red carpet i think it's season three premiere and that was just people were just like oh they're just friends and then a really interesting meme popped up for

me and i don't know if it's true and i don't mean to speculate and it's none of my business but at the golden globes last year i believe selena gomez was talking to Taylor Swift and someone else. Um, I forget who was at the table and I think it was, uh, maybe, Oh God, what's her name?

I really like her. She's married to that guy. That's in a lot of things, whatever. And, and you saw Taylor Swift go, no, what?

And you see Selena, like being like, yes. Uh-huh. And she's like, no way they are something like that it was a year ago or you know almost a year ago so i don't remember the context but it was like something shocking that taylor was responding to and it was really like a cute

thing and people trying to lip read and figure out and selena like put out a tweet at the time that said this isn't what you think it's about everyone thought assuming it was something it was uh timothy Chalamet, and Kylie. Oh, that's right. Yes. They thought they were gossiping about Timothy,

Timothee, by the way, Timothee. Oh, I didn't know that. I did a Golden Globes promo day, and they made sure that I got it as Timothee Chalamet. What? No one says that,

though. Uh, it's, I did both. I did both. I was like, can we just get some Timothys in case it's not? But I think it is Timothee.

So Timothee Chalamet and Kylie were, I guess, like, you know, kissing and stuff. So everyone thought they were gossiping about them. And Selena was like, I was not gossiping about them. I was talking about two of my friends who are hooking up. Not that it's any of your business. And cut to now, we think it might have been she was telling taylor and um this other girl about martin and meryl which would have definitely elicited a no way oh my god like it's it's so cute i can't even stand it after reading his book you if you've listened to the

show for a while you know how obsessed i got with i became a shorty and um i like became obsessed with martin short after reading his book and reading about like how much he loved his wife and um after her death like how devastating it was and how like cute he was like oh my god there's this moment okay so his wife dies and it's really really really fucking sad like the book is like stained with my tears like it's crumpled where like, I like couldn't even turn the page. Cause it was like, I was crying so much. Then he goes on the today show.

Like, I don't know. I'm going to guess like six months to a year after her passing. And Kathy Lee, I believe is the, he's, he's being interviewed about some animated show he's on or whatever movie. And Kathy Lee is like, let's talk about one of the greatest love stories of Hollywood.

You and your wife. Are you still in love? Are you still? It's like she doesn't know about her death. Either she forgot about it or she didn't know. But she's asking him about his wife and how great their relationship is and how enviable it is. And it's one of the great Hollywood marriages. Like they say,

it doesn't last in Hollywood. You and Nancy have, and, and he's so cute. Cause he doesn't go, actually she's passed. He doesn't correct her. He's just like,

yeah, we're still, I still love her so much. We still are so in love. And he like answers it like that. And then in the book, he explains that like when she said like, you know,

is it about communication? He's like something about where he's like, yeah, it's about, we communicate like so well. And he said, I wasn't lying because I still talk to her all the time. It was so sweet. And that's my thing. When people go, what makes you cry? It's always when people talk to dead people and say like, you know, it started with Forrest Gump where he's like, Jenny, you'd be so proud of little Forrest.

Like that like was the first time I think I cried as a about an adult situation when I was a child. And then when dead people leave notes and then people read them later on, those are like my two biggest triggers for just instantly weeping is like dead people being like, I want you to go on and have a full life. And like someone's reading a letter knowing that they're going to die, can't handle it. And that was so cute, though. And he said, though, that it was the first time he realized the power of social media because it was around the time when, I guess, Twitter was taking off or really gaining popularity.

And he said, you know what? That was embarrassing for Kathleen, but no one said anything about it and it's not going to be a thing. And then he got in his car, like his town car that they have for him waiting outside. And Steve Martin called him right away, like cackling, laughing. And was like, how did she not know?

That was so funny. And like had a good sense of humor about it. But he was like, wait, how did you know? And he goes, it's all over Twitter. And he's like, what's Twitter? And it was the first time in his long career since the 60s that something could be like seen that quickly and like become a thing and it was it was interesting to even hear about that about how like back in the day in hollywood like rumors took months to start and like like things didn't catch on unless you were watching

it live like you wouldn't have known about it for a while. That's one of the biggest problems with our society. Yeah. Is that things just happen so fast and then they're gone. There's no buildup. There's no staying power. It's just it's there in an instant and it's gone in an instant. Absolutely.

It's both a good thing and a bad thing. I think because I we've talked about before, but I, whenever I worry about like, oh, what if I have this really bad showing at something? Like it's, I can just always tell myself it's people forget about it right away. Yeah. And then also if it's good, they forget about it right away. So none of it really matters. Like Anya, you were even saying, it's interesting we bring this up.

It was before your album even came out and you were saying i'm having a depression maybe you didn't say the word depression but i'm grieving it being done like this big thing that it hadn't even come out yet i think it was like a week before and you were like i'm already feeling a low grade depress about it being like the anticipation it's over yeah because once an album is out it's like people consume it really fast and then it's like okay next like i just put out a new single i don't know like a week ago from the album which is still on the album you can hear it you are good um it's i put out a little visualizer for where the darkness is oh yeah and um and now it's been a week since i put it out and i'm like i gotta put out another thing it's like it's been a week it's fine no it's not fine anya a week is like an eternity in social media

you're not wrong to write that song produce that song make that song and master that song it's it's insane it's not fair it's it's the way we consume things it isn't fair but you're it's you're you're not wrong to feel that way because it's it's kind of accurate that that is how fast things are are consumed now like do you um are you are you you're still in like the promo stage though and still like in like the exciting like releasing and people are people like an album comes out like a movie comes out people see it and they're instantly like i love this movie it's favorite movie. Or I didn't like the movie. I'll never see it again. Albums, like I can listen to an album and I feel like anytime an album comes out, I go like, oh, it's okay.

Like it's never instantly my favorite because a song becomes your favorite upon the fifth to seventh listen. That's true. It takes repetition. It takes repetition. And I think that's the only kind of medium that actually does take that long or maybe with a TV show, it takes a couple episodes or whatever.

Do you feel like that? No, I mean, I didn't like Mad Max Fury Road until I saw it the second time. But don't you, isn't that true with a song? What do you guys think when you, think about your favorite song. When did you know it was your favorite song? Yeah, with radio when I was a DJj on the radio i would be like oh i hate this song i have to play it 30 times a day and then within a week i'm like this is my favorite song and it's just because you're training your brain but it doesn't work that way with tv shows if you watch

you can watch an episode of a tv show if i if you don't like it and i show it to you seven more times you're not gonna like it more like i think that would be rare that you would like it more why is it that way with with music i don't know it's a great question songs are only like a few minutes so you can listen to it again and again that's one theory you start hearing more things upon many listens you'll be like oh i didn't catch that before actually when i watch movies a couple times i'm like oh or succession you would watch succession be like, oh, I never caught that he was alluding to that other thing in the scene.

It's all connected. But I will say that I have known right away with a TV show when it's my favorite. I've known right away with a movie when it's my favorite. But with my favorite songs, it is very rare that I know right away. There's one song,

there's two songs that I can think of that I was like, these are going to be two of my favorite songs forever upon first listen. One of them is still summer by Matt pond, which I heard in a cafe and I shazammed right away before I knew it was Matt pond and was like, actually mad. It was Matt pond because at the time you guys were not like talking and I really didn't like him.

And I was like, I texted you fuck on you. He's really good like this song is like one of the best songs I've ever heard and then the other song no one will even believe me wait can you give us a hint I mean I don't even know that you would

I it wasn't of your generation I like I think it was just you were a little bit older than me to get this but let me give you the let me give you the um let me give you the lyrics not sung i can't understand wait wait hold on because i like the way that you're making me move i like the way you're making me wait at the end of the night when you make up your mind you'll be coming on home with me all right girl you know you want it Girl you know I've got it

I can't wait to take you home You know you got it tonight I don't wanna be rude at all I just wanna be with you girl Dancing we could do alone My favorite part of the song Can we do what we did last night again Maybe you and I'd be better friends

Don't you think it's time we went a bit further? Oh, yeah. Every night when we say goodbye, I kind of kept looking in your eye, wondering why you and I haven't hit it. Can we get it on? And then this is the chorus. Kind of something feeling what I did done right. Think about making my move tonight.

I can't understand why you're holding my hand then you're holding my body tight that little thing that when i heard that yes i can't like it felt like a ball falling downstairs can't understand when i'm with i was obsessed i heard it in a best buy and i was like what is this it was soul decision they only had one hit song and that was like, what is this? It was Soul Decision. They only had one hit song. And that was one of my favorite songs instantly because of that little thing. And I just knew. Maybe that's why.

Maybe it's because in songs you need something familiar that's slightly changed so that your brain is surprised by the musicality of it without being so off-put that it's not like a pattern you recognize oh that's interesting and so it takes a while for you to get used to hearing that new thing which you wouldn't you won't like a song if it's just so familiar you've heard it a million times i remember in the early aughts, I heard, this shit is bananas. B-A-N-A-N-A-S. That was also Frank Sinatra. And I was just like, this is a new, cool cadence. And it's bringing up high school bands and orchestras. And it had orchestral roles in it. And I was just like, this is cool.

And then everybody started doing stuff like that. And same with Katy Perry. Chapel Rowan is doing the same thing right now. Oh, yeah, yeah. History repeats itself. stuff like that and same with like chapel runs doing the same thing right now this oh yeah yeah history repeats itself yeah it's fun when there are like new little trends that happen in music that are like probably old repeating well i loved you did an interview with kate walsh on instagram live that i was watching and you were talking about how um you're like you're on the road with me so you listen to a lot of Taylor Swift,

and how you would never think that Anya Marina would be listening to this album. You wouldn't think, oh, she's gotten a lot of inspiration from Taylor Swift, but it did change kind of the way you approach writing or lyrics, and I just want you to expound on that because I was fascinated by that, and I didn't follow up with you exactly what you meant by that. Oh, cool. Yeah. I think I was like, I like that Taylor can be really specific about stuff. And then I started looking at my lyrics and I was like, I've always tried to be a little oblique or like, if you figure it out, you know, and I don't. And so I wanted to kind of like, I don't know, like meet her halfway or like

go a little bit closer to that. Like, why don't I tell more personal stories? And I did like in nothing less. And why do you think that was? Was it just not the trend when you started in music or it wasn't like the music that you liked? Like you were really inspired by like Liz Phair. It was like, do you you think do you think that's

it like it would just like i was flying into chicago at night watching the lake turn the sky into blue green smoke that song she has stratford on guy that i love um like i would have to pick that apart like wait what does she mean okay she's on an airplane she's descending they're about to land in chicago okay cool like i like figuring out what a song is about. I don't like when something's like, and then I went to the store, and then I'm at this. I don't want it to be too black and white. But it's just boring to me.

Or it's not as poetic or artistic. I love it. It's not like I like one or the other. But I just thought I could be more vulnerable. And this album definitely is. I would think I had a fight with Matt, but I don't want to write that I had a fight with Matt. Then I'd be like, no,

you should write exactly how you feel right now. I don't relate to that. Why wouldn't you want to write about that? Because I wouldn't want to write a lyric that's like, I got in a fight with my boyfriend tonight, which I did not do that, but I did talk about... What's the lyric that you are alluding to that you maybe wouldn't want to write a lyric that's like, I got in a fight with my boyfriend tonight, which I did not do that, but I did talk about. Well, what's the lyric that you are kind of alluding to

that you maybe wouldn't have written before? I have tried to fix myself, straighten out the bumps and flatten where I'm bent, heal the parts that needed help. I have tried to fix myself. Spent my whole life growing up, and yet here I am, I'm just a kid with 100 miles to go

till I get to where I need to get. In moments just like these, it feels like I left everything that I've ever learned behind. So it's kind of like capturing that feeling of like feeling dejected and like, God, I don't know anything. I hope that comes across anyway. It also feels introspective rather than blaming and like aggressive towards yeah the person yeah like super specific i mean i hope it's a little poetic and yeah it's very poetic absolutely and you could you could have said matt pines a piece of shit yeah and what you did was better than that i'm wondering though like what why what's the um what's the fear of being less poetic not that i would want you to be but like

what what is something like you just think it sounds like too um immature maybe it doesn't interest me it doesn't interest you i want to make something that interests me got it got it that's the artist's answer yes that's the, that's when you know you're an artist. Like when I was making my first real major label record that was on Atlantic, I was really interested in rhythms. So there's a lot of like drum loops on that album. Like, so I wasn't so interested in lyrics. I was making songs that are like,

like a little more like the ting tings you know and that was interesting to me at the time but as i've gotten older you know like i'm in a different phase of my life and i'm thinking a lot about like where am i in my life like so a lot of the record is just about existence and like we're in a different place now than i was in the early odds like i'm thinking about the planet and I'm thinking about like, are we going to exist? And I'm thinking about that. I didn't have children and I got married late in life.

And like, I want to make a record for someone else. That's like, I haven't gotten married yet either. Do I even need to, I don't know if I want to have kids. Like there are songs on here that talk about that too. You like made a record for yourself,

like for yourself, which is always the place to write from as an artist probably is just you know not giving people what they want and doing what you want and what interests you it's the only way it's hard though because you listen to taylor swift i'm sure and you're like this is what's popular this is what people want i should like change to that whereas you probably found a way to like learn what instead of rejecting it and being like oh god this is what's in as this is what i do what's interesting about this to me is there something interesting about the specificity of an olivia rodrigo a taylor swift a chapel roan that like did were you able to find like what you liked about it as opposed to like oh this is annoying and new oh yeah i i don't mind anything new almost i mean i mean maybe that's not true but like you played me

um what's the one about kid you're on your own kid you're on your own kid you're on your own kid blew my mind because i was like not only is this melodically really pretty and that has a descending line so you like you like that when you're a teenager yeah that part yeah yeah um yeah that's what it's called a descending line i think so it kind of goes down so does um uh paper cuts a thousand cuts okay a thousand cuts Paper Cuts, A Thousand Cuts. Okay. Death by a Thousand Cuts. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, and Betty, and yeah, I love it. Yeah. So what You're On Your Own Kid does that kills me, like you talk about like somebody being kind makes you cry or somebody like talking about, like what killed me in that song is

where she says, I went the party let's do this lyric about the better bodies yeah um i uh i hosted parties uh i sorry um by body i start yeah like i god i'm so bad at coming up with her lyrics when i don't have the song in front of me i hosted parties and starve my body like i would be saved by a perfect kiss the jokes weren't funny I took the money my friends from home don't know what to say to me that's my favorite Taylor Swift lyric like that is so revelatory

like she's calling herself out like I took the money that's I don't know like to me that's just brave to say that that's why I love and we'll go to break after this I love and I want to talk more about this when we get back. I'll tell you what I love when we get back after this. Because we got to go to break.

Jon Stewart is back at The Daily Show, and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with The Daily Show Ears Edition Podcast. Dive into Jon's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports, and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondents and contributors. And with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed? Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts what I was going to say before we went to break is that I loved and I've probably talked about before Matt Healy from the 1975 not to talk about someone it has nothing to do with Taylor but I was listening to him talk about one of my favorite songs

the birthday song I think it's called um and there was it's it became one of my favorite songs and then I found a whole podcast where he was talking like for an hour about writing this one of my favorite songs and that was also a song the first time I heard it I was like I love this um and one of the lyrics and it was like um I want to go somewhere I'll be recognized. Can we go? I want to go to a party where can we go somewhere that people will recognize me? And he said it's something like that. And he said in the interview about it that he wrote that lyric as kind of like a maybe a placeholder.

I'm kind of paraphrasing, but he wrote it. And then he instantly was like, I want to take that out. That's so embarrassing. Like, I can't write that in a song that's going to go out that I am a celebrity that wants to be recognized. And he said that whenever he has that reaction, he has to leave it in.

Yes. He's forced to like, he cannot pull something because it's embarrassing or because he wants to look cool. And I really respect that. I'm obsessed when people do something i mean that's why i like love comedy it's because people say things that i'm like oh my god you're not supposed to say that and like now people like me more because

i'm saying this thing that i never thought i'd tell anyone and is is something that's so humiliating about myself and i get to have, I get to say how it's said. I get ownership of it. It's, you know, I think that's really interesting. What's a lyric that comes to mind for you in this song that you're like, oh, I can't believe it. Well, that's also why I became friends with you

is I heard you on a podcast talking so openly about an eating disorder and I was like, what? I never had one of those. I was driving around like, I need to hear this. I can't believe someone's talking about stuff I've thought about. And she's not ashamed at all. And then to become friends with you is even like, I can't even believe this is happening.

Like that, you know, I get to be friends with somebody that's like, no, of course, I'm not ashamed to order a salad the way I want to order a salad. I remember I was like, you're so amazing that you could do that. A lyric that I remember, like i wrote london blues which is the closing song on the record you're on tour yeah we were in london together you mean miss matt i was missing matt and i was just like i was experiencing like jealousy or feeling threatened like he was on tour and i was on tour and we were like hemispheres away from each other in totally different time zones and it's basically just about all of my fears of being abandoned, like came up. And, you know, I had been in a relationship where I had totally been lied to for many, many years and didn't know

about it until the end. And so, and you know, all this trust stuff started coming up and I can't remember exactly if there's like a lyric specifically about that but it's just basically about like the the line i love is ever since i learned that love could be forsaken i've been letting go of anything worth taking i won't be mistaken so i stare at the moon and fight these london blues tonight and it's just basically about like you know trying to keep people at arm's length because I don't ever want to get hurt if I just keep people at arm's length. Admitting that you have trust issues. Yes. Yeah.

Which is kind of embarrassing to admit at, you know, like as a fully grown woman. Yes. To admit you're still dealing with these kind of immature things that you acknowledge are like not helping you in life. Like you're admitting that you are struggling with stuff which you yeah like you literally can't not do that as an artist unless you're a rapper i guess like i think a lot of hip-hop is about like being braggadocious not all of it but like there is that that sometimes cannot have a vulnerability to it but i'm probably i'm talking out of line because i don't listen to enough rap to really know like that but there was there is a genre of

it i think that is just all like i'm doing so well that's why i really liked taylor tomlinson was on um trash tuesday talking about sabrina carpenter and she was like i mean it's great but i just don't relate to anyone that confident. Like, that's like, you should be so grateful to fuck me. Like, I thought that was such, it was so, such a great take on Sabrina Carpenter's music of like why it's maybe not so relatable to some people. It's because this girl's just too confident. Oh, I remember years ago, Kanye West called out all the indie rockers and he's like, this is what's wrong with you guys is you don't have this confidence that we have which is a good thing to have sometimes yeah but it's really really hard

to write or at least it was i would say in the 90s and early 2000s it was really hard to write as a uh i don't mean to sound like oh it's so hard to be white indie rock but like it was if you started writing in a confident way then it just didn't land right it just sounded like you were a kid yeah because it is kind of good to be confident yeah but when you're in the pop world like sabrina especially now in 2024 like go for it it's like all girl power like do it yeah i was doing everything with a wink. Anyway, I was on stage this weekend and, um, was just talking about how I masturbate or something that was just like, it's part of my act.

Like, and when an audience is like my audience, like it doesn't feel over Sherry. It feels like it. I don't even like, I don't have to like steal myself to get into this, like very graphic description of how I have my most intimate alone moments. But then I had this moment this weekend where people weren't really feeling it.

It's a show I'll talk about when I have more perspective on it in years to come. But it was a set that was not my favorite thing that i've ever done and i can't wait to talk about it someday because it's going to be like a part of my origin story of whatever i become because it was so not fun but um but i was on stage like doing my act because i have nothing else to do you know like i gotta just do my jokes and that's one of my favorite jokes to do when i'm on stage performing for people who actually like me. And these people did not. Final thought.

And so I'm talking about these people don't like me. And now I'm talking about how I masturbate. And it's kind of graphic and over the top. And I was like, I feel so embarrassed. I've never once felt embarrassed by that joke. I've never once had the reaction that I think some people have of my material, which is like, how do you get up there and say that to people? And I guess now I know why. It's because usually people like it. People are like, I feel not judged.

I feel that people are refreshed by if it's something that they would never do and never say and can't even imagine someone would do. At least they're laughing at like, wow, i have a weird thing i do alone too these people were like we don't like you we don't we haven't liked anything you've said and now you're being way too graphic and why would we we don't care about you why would we care about this thing that you think you're so quirky and interesting it just was so fucking humiliating i mean to be fair, the crowd at the Trump rally was, you know, mostly. Honestly, it was right on the heel after that. And everyone was sending me like going,

you know, like every comedian this weekend was having massive text threads about obviously Tony Hinchcliffe's set at the Trump rally. And my response to all of them was i had a worse set i had a worse experience because it was i felt i felt more compassion for him than i think most people did um after his set because i if i wouldn't have had that set i think i would have had more of a

cattiness about it and more of like what was he you know like just a snarky opinion but as a comedian that did that just hit the wrong tone for the thing that i was asked to do like i really felt it i was really happy mine wasn't like televised or tweeted about thank god um but it was really this moment of like this is humiliating like i it would be like you know singing one of your most vulnerable songs to a crowd of people who aren't listening and i think anya you've you've dealt with that before i think as musicians people talk over you guys way more than they do comedians it's not like a common thing where i am like performing for people who are not listening and don't want me to keep going and want me to be

done and i think just growing up with a dad who performs like every show i go to people are like performing for people who are not listening and don't want me to keep going and want me to be done. And I think just growing up with a dad who performs like every show I go to, people are talking the entire time he plays the entire time. Like, it's not even like, there's no, it's not like people are like, wow,

this is offensive. Some people are like, shush. It's like, we all agree. We're going to talk the whole time, including me. Cause he's doing covers.

That's it's not fair, but that's what it is. That's true. That's true that's true but even first i think when i see singer-songwriters at like bars or whatever no one people are just talking yep it's background music it's that's the gig but um it was it was eye-opening but i i had an epiphany after that set where i was like i want to write a clean hour. I just need to for these gigs where I don't have to... They don't get that intimate joke that I wrote

that is for people who actually like me. And if you don't like me, I'll just go into my safe set because that's all you deserve. And not that it would be worse material, but it's like, I don't want every joke I make to be this really...

Like reading my diary like you don't that's a really good challenge though too to do a yeah just to see what happens just to see what happens if i'm an hour clean yeah well it's my next challenge i decided like i'm like without question i don't think it's i don't know if it's going to be my next special but it's my when i start because my next special is kind of like coming up sooner than i would need to prepare for a clean special but i'm also like oh that's that's what you got to do in this business you can't just keep being the same thing over and over you have to go oh here's a here's a way to market it nikki glazer's putting out a whole clean special that you can watch with your family nikki glazer comes clean yeah i think Matt might have come up with that.

I'm not taking credit. That's really good. I was going to say, I've heard that before. That's really, really good. Yeah. Chris has been asking me to do it. I think Matt even said something about it too. And it's like, just as a challenge, but it's like, I just don't want to, I don't want to

feel that way anymore where I was like, I just gave of myself and these people were just like disgusted by, not even disgusted, like just disinterested. And it feels really bad it's so bad i had that on friday night at a show and i was all confident going out it's opening up for nikki and this theater filled with 2 000 people and then i start my song girl shit which is so quiet and intimate and i just hadn't set it up properly and i just lost them like within 10 seconds you can just like, and then it's like a thousand people are just like, can you pass me? Why were they so easily lost?

They were drunk. They were still entering the theater, which I kind of love that. Like I love a challenge. I've played thousands of gigs. Like put me in a bar and grill. I'll figure it out. Like I pride myself on like

being able to play through anything. I just didn't set it up right. And I should have been like, let's bail on this song and do something else. But I didn't bail. I was just like, just keep playing it. Just get through it. But it just sucked. And I was thinking in that moment, I need to have quicker outs.

I need to have a couple more upbeat songs. Or I need to have more exit strategies. No, I had the same thing like i think that after that show i just was like this cannot ever happen again that was so deeply uncomfortable and not an experience i would ever even wish on my worst enemy that i went through and i can't do that again to myself i'm glad it happened for the sake of like you know all the tiktoks that come up all the reels that come up that are like you about failure i've been getting a lot of them

because i guess my phone thinks i'm like i need them but like i don't know if you guys get a lot of that stuff but like how kobe talking about like if he's not failing he is not interested in like the that's not a process he's interested in like you gotta fail in order to be better and i was talking to my mom about this set last night when she drove me home and i was kind she was like you need to just get over it you know like we gotta get over it you're moving on and i'm like i am i'm you asked me how it went i have to tell you and i'm grateful that it won't ever happen again i will never how'd that'd that set go, Nikki? Oh, it was really hard. Get over it. You gotta get over it.

Well, she was so dismayed. Like for her to hear her daughter, she was like, your dad and I, when you told us about that, we all day yesterday, we just couldn't get over it. We were so upset for you.

And it was really sweet because they just were like, you just don't want your daughter. I like felt for them. I was like, oh, I told them how, you don't want your daughter to be embarrassed for an hour on stage like it's not just like 10 minutes of like oh that felt weird like think of being embarrassed for an hour like straight like have tripping over yourself in front of everyone for an hour it's

like for tumbling downstairs think of the last time you fell in a crowd now just keep pictures you're falling for an hour and not having to show that you're falling like it's like that's what it felt like and it's um and so i think my mom was just trying to like help herself get over it she's like we're just moving on from this like it's not gonna happen i'm like it won't happen again like i will never and i will always be prepared for something like that in the future or i won't do a gig like that in the future like a one or the other but it just it it did remind me though that you need you need to fail you it's so true you have to be grateful for these failures because they make you better like i i killed it the night after i bombed because i was so furious at myself and i was like, I will not bomb again.

And I had two great shows. Even Matt was like, that was one of the best shows I've seen you do like the second night. Cause I was so pissed. Yeah. It lights a fire. Like I got to get on stage again. Cause that was the last show I did.

I was like, damn it. Cause everyone goes to, you know, I was with my friend and he's like, you're going to be over this in 24 hours. And I was like, I'm not until the next show I do. It's not, I'm not my friend and he's like, you're going to be over this in 24 hours. And I was like, I'm not until the next show I do.

It's not, I'm not going to shake this off. Um, and he glazed with the funny bone tonight. I should run out and get another set. I just, I, I just want to,

I want to rest for a couple of days, I think, but I should, I, you're not wrong. I should do an, Oh, my dad actually is performing tonight at the pasta house.

I might just like play a song with him. Maybe do a song. I got to cut my nails though to do a song. Okay, we're going to have one more episode with Anya Marina tomorrow.

You know we will. We're about to record it. So it'll be an extension of this conversation. I hope you are there for it tomorrow on the podcast. Thank you for listening today.

Check out Anya Marina. She has a new album, Asteroid. You can get the girl shit shirt that I have that I love so much and you can order that at anyamarina.com it says anya marina on the back says girl shit on the front it's so fucking cute so stylish um really recommend if you want a new shirt in your life that people will love and comment on and you'll look super cute and girl shit anyamarina.com um and we'll be back tomorrow with more episodes with uh with another episode with Anya.

Don't be good. And bye. The Nikki Glaser podcast is a production by Will Ferrell's big money players and I heart podcasts created and hosted by me. Nikki Glaser co-hosted by Brian Frangie executive produced by Will Ferrell, Han Sonny, and Noah Avior edited and engineered by lean and loaf video production, Mark Canton and music by Anya Marina. You can now watch full episodes of the Nikki Glaser podcast on YouTube.

Follow at Nikki Glaser Pod and subscribe to our channel. Catch Jon Stewart back in action on The Daily Show and in your ears with The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. From his hilarious satirical takes on today's politics and entertainment to the unique voices of correspondents and contributors, it's your perfect companion to stay on top of what's happening now. Plus, you'll get special content just for podcast listeners, like in-depth interviews and a roundup of the week's top headlines. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.