The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #493 Golden Globes Prep, Wicked Reactions & Nikki Wants To Break This Habit...

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

Hey besties, quick heads up — this episode has some Wicked spoilers, so don’t say we didn’t warn you. Nikki’s back in LA, gearing up to host the Golden Globes, and she’s using the pod to try out her makeup look. She’s joined by Brian, Sean O’Connor, and Gen Z Em. Before heading out of St. Louis, Nikki had the best time with her fam and even pulled a 'positive prank' on her nephew. She got to see Wicked and explains why she found it underwhelming. Oh, and did you know Nikki has a small connection to The Wizard of Oz? She talks about how it her career in taking flight. The crew shares their stories about getting the ‘yips’ on stage. In the Final Thought, Nikki opens up about the anxious habit she’s trying to ditch, and Gen Z Em might just be the perfect person to help her do it. Subscribe to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts to get this episode ad-free, and get exclusive bonus content: https://apple.co/nikkiglaserpodcast  . Watch this episode on our Youtube Channel: The Nikki Glaser Podcast Follow the pod on Instagram: @NikkiGlaserPod Nikki's Tour Dates: nikkiglaser.com/tour Brian’s Animations: youtube.com/@BrianFrange More Nikki: IG More Brian: IG More producer Noa: IGSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello. Hello. Sean O'Connor. Hey. And you know her, you love her, you hear about her all the time. She's been on the show before and she's back by popular demand and because Andrew Collin got really violently sick. So please welcome to the show, Emily Lachardy.

Sorry. Wow. I was really focused on your last name so I fucked up your first name. I thought you were supposed to say Gen ZM. Oh, Gen ZM. Yeah, Emily Lachardy. Sorry. Wow. I was really focused on your last name, so I fucked up your first name. I thought you were supposed to say Gen ZM. Oh, yeah, it's Gen ZM, everyone. Sorry, I meant to say that too. That's her whack pack name. Yeah, like no one, I barely know your last name.

It's Gen ZM. Lachardy? Does it feel like, does it feel flippant? Because I remember one time you were like, of course, you have me in your phone as Up High M, Emily. Emily up high. Everyone has me in as Emily up high. And I'm like, oh.

For Emily social media. Emily social girl. Yeah. I was like, I'm more than that. My wife is still on my phone. My wife is still on my phone as girl from bar. That would be amazing. My boyfriend actually is in my name,

or is in my phone right now under, his name is World Record Association Okay Which is really The story behind it is interesting But he His nickname is SeaWorld Because his name is Chris So it's like Chris World

But it's like Sounds like you're saying SeaWorld So we call him His family calls him SeaWorld And so Shortened to that A lot of people call him World I don't

But I know That's what he's called So he keeps showing up In my phone as world Which is what we call him But the reason he's in my phone As world record association Is because this weekend

Thanksgiving night My nephew Who's seven Your son Nolan's age Same age Like Went out on the front porch And we were just like

In the family room Watching TV I was at my parents house With my nephews and my niece and my sister and my brother-in-law, Matt. And my brother-in-law, Matt, comes in and is like, hey, guys, Arlo's doing this thing on the porch. He all of a sudden wants to set a record.

And we were like, what? He's on the porch. He was sitting on a ball he found in a tree, like a soccer ball. He's sitting on a ball on the front porch, on a bench on my's on the porch. He was sitting on a ball he found in a tree, like a soccer ball. He's sitting on a ball on the front porch on a bench on my parents' front porch. And he asked for my phone and he just said, I want to just like set a record for like how long to sit on a ball. And so we were like, where is he getting this from?

I went out there to check on it. And he's like, I'm going to set a record. I'm like, oh my God, what is the record? He's like, I'm setting it. And I'm like, you're right. You are like, this is amazing. And so then we got in this whole thing of like, you're setting a record. This is the record? He's like, I'm setting it. I'm like, you're right, you are. This is amazing. And so then we got in this whole thing of like,

you're setting a record. This is the coolest thing that's ever happened. Oh my God, I can't believe you're doing this. It's so cold outside. You're gonna sell this ball. How long are you gonna go? He's like, maybe an hour. I'm like, oh my God. And also we get a break from him for an hour.

He's on the porch alone. We keep, so over the course of the hour, we're like amping this up. We keep bringing him out blankets. It's like 30 degrees outside. We keep, so over the course of the hour, we're like amping this up. We keep bringing him out blankets. It's like 30 degrees outside. We're bringing him hot cocoa. We're like, how are you doing this? This is amazing.

So he's just sitting like a bird on an egg, on a ball, on a bench, on my parents' front porch. We're watching TV in the family room. And then a couple of times I bring him like, you know, a blanket and some gloves. And he just casually mentions like, you should call someone about this. Like you should, you should, you should call like, because he kind of knows I'm the one that might have connections to like getting things out there.

So he's like, you should call someone. And I'm like, I should. You're right. And but I kind of like brushed it off when he first said it. Like, yeah, people deserve to know about this. We'll let people know, you know. And then the second time he said, I was like, I got to do something. Like, yeah, people deserve to know about this. We'll let people know, you know? And then the second time he said it, I was like, I got to do something. Like, I got to like come through on this for him.

So I texted Chris who was at his parents' house and I was like, hey, I'm going to call you. And will you just pretend that you are like at the World Record Association? And because he didn't know about Guinness Book of World Records, but we were like that you're and we're telling you about this world record. And will you just it's he's sitting on a bench, sitting on a ball on a bench. And so I called Chris and I put him in my phone because I did because Arlo might have been suspicious and been like, is it really? And I go, it's the World Record Association.

Like I got their number and Chris fucking nailed it. He was Jerry McGinnis and he kind of had a Southern accent. And he's like, now tell me about what's going on there. And I go, well, we got a young, we got a boy who's sitting on a front porch in the cold. He goes, not in the cold. Really, in the cold? Well, it's got to be at least 60 degrees there, right? We go, no, it's 30.

And he goes, oh, so you got a boy sitting on a bench, on a ball and bench. Now, we got a little Timmy Flattery. Now, he did 53 minutes back in August of 77. And so he's going through his records, and he goes, now, this boy, he's got to be about, what, 15, 16, 17. And I go, no, sir, no. This is a seven-year-old. He goes, seven years old?

Well, this is going right to the top of the deck. So then he's like, so Arlo's listening to this on speaker and just like on this ball like so excited and so then i was like so does he get something in the mail once we like once he has achieved the record because he's at 22 minutes now and he goes well if he gets another 31 minutes i mean we will have no choice but to dethrone timmy flattery and um and send him a certificate and so i go and he'll get that in the mail and i knew chris would like mail him something so i was like this will be great we'll do it later but then chris is like no i'm going to photoshop it right now so he like made this amazing certificate with like different colors and then my dad of like who has a color

printer in this world kinkos aren't open open on Thanksgiving. No world would this have ever worked out except my dad has a working color printer and never used. I never use a color cartridge. I'm excited to use it. So he printed up this certificate that Arlo is holding proudly. And it's so he couldn't believe it. He kept asking if there was money involved. And Chris, Chris almost put a caveat on the certificate for it to say like,

your favorite aunt must award you $100. I was like, that would have been so good. That looks really good. Isn't it? He did such a good job on it. Wow. It's got a seal and everything. That looks like a real seal.

And it has a picture of Arlo holding his time. This is official, folks. This is official, folks. Yeah. World Record Association. It's signed by Jerry McGinnis. Record for sitting on a ball on a porch.

57 minutes and one second. Stop, that's precious. Temperature during record. An impressive 36 degrees. That is incredible. That is so well done. It's so fun to like, I understand Santa now.

Because he's gonna, because someone goes, when are you gonna tell him it was a lie? Like, everyone that night was like, when are we gonna tell him? And I go, you're all lying to him about Santa constantly. Like, why can't we add more lies to the bit?

Because I don't believe in lying about Santa, but if we're going to. Well, here's what the guy do next. You gotta get a call. He has to get a call from Timmy Flattery being really pissed yeah like really all hilarious he's by now he's probably in his 70s oh if he was a 15 year old boy in 1977 when he broke yeah so you gotta get a 70 year old man any 70 year old man you know to come up to him be like you broke my record I'll never forget it he is but he's been flaunting it he's been talking

about it they're like it's they're gonna get it's, they're going to get it framed. Like I just, you know, do you guys remember as a kid, like having any kind of like winning something or like having them like, wouldn't that for us threes, Sean, that would have been three is three as an Enneagram three as you are too. Cause you did the quiz.

Like, wouldn't you have like, wouldn't this have made your childhood? Like, I think I was just trying to gift him what I would have wanted. Oh, absolutely. I want to be lied to. To the point where I wanted to succeed so much,

there was a Ghostbusters comic book, and I still have it at my parents' house, that I took my older cousin's drawing of Slimer and sent it in as me as a four-year-old. And I got full credit. Oh, my God. They must have thought I was the most talented four-year-old. I was just a fucking liar.

Oh my God. You were talented in devious ways. Yes. Oh my, yeah. I loved lying growing up. I didn't like lying, but I just wanted notoriety. Oh, I wanted it so bad. Like I remember at basketball camp, I told everyone I was Chris Farley's cousin because

I like kind of look like Chris Farley. And everyone called me Farley. everyone I was Chris Farley's cousin because I kind of look like Chris Farley. And everyone called me Farley and I was in heaven. And then he died. Did you get to take off school? It was during summer camp and I like he like died in like July or something.

I was actually really sad. So I like did you play it up, though? No, but I think my mom told me to stop doing it. That's such a good lie. I don't think I was lied. That's a different type of three. Yeah, no, that's the Kevin Spacey three.

Yeah, that's the one. Threes can go either way. They're some of the worst people in the world. Any number can go any way. But you don't like taking credit for things that aren't yours. That I haven't done. Yeah. There's a differentiation here.

I don't do that anymore. This is very much like. No, that's who you are. You're a dubious liar. I was just an unremarkable child. And I wanted. All I wanted was to be like Matilda or something. Oh, I would stare at spoons so much and try to get them to move.

I wanted some kind of power. Oh, that's it. So I feel like that's a three move. But I think, like, don't all kids want, like, attention? Like, do you guys relate to that? Of like, Brian, you probably had it. It's in different ways, though. It doesn't matter if you want attention or if you want power.

It matters why. What is the thing? What is the reason for your trauma that you're covering up what is your method but as a kid what do you remember getting any kind of special attention that really made you feel so good um well that's for different reasons for one reason so i remember at camp i also lied about something i was on a bus and it was a really hot day and we were stuck in traffic and like i think the bus overheated or something and I felt that this was unacceptable to have all these kids on the hot bus for hours and hours and so I

It is. It is. It was hours and hours. It was like six or seven hours. We're on this hot bus on the side of the highway. Oh my god. And we're all getting so hot and we're sweating and then eventually I took off my shirt and I was like getting I'm like I'm so hot. I'm so hot.

What grade is this? This was, I was probably like seven or something. And I was like, I'm so hot. I can't take it anymore. And there was no water. It was like there was a bus driver. Oh my God. And then I pretended to faint.

Oh man. Did you tell like a friend you were going to do it or is it? No, I just said someone has to serve justice here. This is what happens. You fell on the sword. You are Rosa Parks of this summer. No, I just said someone has to serve justice here. This is what happens. That's totally you. You fell on the sword. You are Rosa Parks of this summer. That's right.

Oh my gosh. Instead of sitting down, I fell over. So I pretended to faint and then it was like a big deal. I didn't realize it was going to be such a huge deal, but they made a really big deal about this camp because it was like he fainted on the bus out of heat exhaustion. And they took me to the nurse all day and they were trying to give me all these. But that makes sense because you saw that's what was going to happen. I saw it was leading to this.

And so you're like, I have to just do it to prove to them that this is a lot. Like, take this seriously. We're a bunch of seven year olds. It's probably like 120 degrees inside this bus. Yes. And we're just sitting here for like four or five hours. It doesn't make any sense my god oh my gosh i one time i was at a dodgers game and there i don't know if you've been up in like the like higher up seats there but like there is a drop off a sudden drop off where it like you know there's like a place to go out to get concessions so the stands drop off yeah and

there's no there's a very small shitty guardrail separating seats that are very high up off of just pure pavement. And there was a child by it. I was so distracted during the game, I couldn't stop thinking about it and I couldn't believe everyone else wasn't alarmed by this. It's amazing more people don't fall off any stadium.

I couldn't believe. Oh, that's true. We're like fall off any stadium. I couldn't believe. Yeah. Oh, that's true. We're like hotel balconies when I'm out there sometimes. I'm like, how are kids not dying all of the time?

Because teens are always trying to show off and flirting. Right. Like how have flirty teens not died here more often? I don't know. But I,

like, it's not like I was gonna fall to make it happen, but I felt that feeling a lot where, yeah, I thought about pulling a Michael Jackson and showing my new song. But there was something in me that was like,

I want this, these people, I need something to happen here for this to change. Yeah, right. Because otherwise it's like, but no one seemed to care. No one cares. It's like when people just walk on the road when there's traffic.

I will say it's crazy at like Dodger Stadium very particularly. People are just getting wasted with their kids. Wasted. And just letting their kids do whatever they're. And it's wild. I think kids are dying and they're covering up. There's no way kids are dying there. Oh, it's like Disneyland where they were.

Yeah, cruise ships. There must be something because you go, how is this not happening when you see a hazard like that? Yeah. I think someone's going to, I mean, I don't want to say this, but I'm waiting for the first sphere fall because that's really steep. Sphere fall? Sphere. In this sphere in Vegas.

Oh, sphere. Because it's so steep. Wait, speaking of, I went to IMAX last night to see Wicked with my parents. Oh, that's on the list. IMAX is the same steepness. My parents, my parents, we said the same exact thing literally less like you know less than 24 hours ago about how how do people not fall in imax all the time because there's this six inches to walk and it is a straight shot down yes it's crazy like i mean

imax at least you're not like inebriated but like the sphere like fish is doing shows there like it's why how are people not getting hurt it really is crazy just like tripping balls and like and tripping over our cups you're so right when i was watching wicked i was thinking at the beginning of it that it would be nice to see this in imax or in the sphere because it was it was visually stunning and i felt like I was on a ride at the beginning. And seeing it on a regular screen, I felt like was doing it a disservice. I had the

exact opposite thing where I go, you know what? I think I got to see this in a regular one because the start of the IMAX show it was, they showed a preview for the new Lion, the Mustafa. Mufasa. Mufasa. Mufasa. Mustafa. It seems like it's just the lion king again i i it's yeah it's just kind of it's basically the same story i i quit i was so

distracted though because it was the trailer was not fit to the imax screen so it was just like whoa and my mom and i were like this sucks like if this is what wicked is we're leaving immediately because you can't you can't focus on anything. And there were times where, like, on the side of the screen during, Wicked was much better formatted for it, but there were times during it where someone would appear on the side

and you wouldn't even know that they were there because they're, like, way up on the side. Like a character with lines? Yeah, a character with lines, like, would come in and you're like, whoa, she's all, you have to, like, turn your head over. But other than that that there were some cool moments when she runs to the edge of the cliff yeah yeah that was i think my favorite part of all so we've all seen wicked here oh yeah that's

that's a real everyone applauded in my theater at the end of that i mean i'm sure everyone applauded at your theaters too because you got a whole time they applauded people booed at that point culver city no but nobody sang in mine. Nobody sang in mine. They told us not to. There was two announcements before. But the only cheering that happened outside of the end, because it did get an applause break at the end,

but was the Nicole Kidman intro still is getting claps. I'm so tired of it. I'm so embarrassed for people who like it. Do they like it ironically at this point? Isn't that true? I think so.

I don't know what you're talking about. Do you not go to AMCs? Did you see our merch video? Yeah, we did a video on TikTok to it. I only go to the Culver City Theater, which is owned by Amazon now. Oh, so at every AMC showing for the last three years to get us out of the pandemic,

Nicole Kidman filmed this thing where she's alone in a movie theater and she's just swept away by films like Jurassic World and La La Land. And she does this like, it's like this incredibly like-

Doesn't she walk in from the parking lot? From the parking lot. It's raining. We come here to laugh. We come here to love. We come here to love. It's like we come here for magic. Yeah, yeah.

It's really just, you know. It's a little hammed up. Yeah, melodramatic. And it became like a meme. Like people are making fun of it. So I now think that people like it because it's so ridiculous. Yeah, like they're cheering when it comes on. But it's very funny because Nolan knows all the words. And he just says it along with her. That's so ridiculous. Yeah, like they're cheering when it comes on. That's crazy. But it's very funny because Nolan knows all the words

and he just says it along with her. That's so cute. Like it's an episode of Bluey. Yeah, exactly. But that's what we used to do at our movie theater in St. Louis. I still have the thing memorized of like, we're in Berg Theater.

You know, like the little song? Yeah. I would only hear it in that context. And yeah, I still have it. It's burned in my, because yeah. Got it. I used to see so many movies. I would only hear it in that context and yeah I still have it it's burned in my because yeah I used to see so many I was voted most likely

in my eighth grade class to be Siskel and Ebert oh that's a good one both of them not when you want to be like a pretty girl on screen you don't want to like review movies

you are so Ebert yeah I was like I hated it I legit hated it but um would you give it two thumbs down? I want to hear what you heard about how you felt about Wicked, but Noah's saying we've got to take a break. Okay, let's take a break.

And then, by the way, Brian's telling us what Noah's saying because he's wearing headphones and I'm not because I just got my hair done. Or no, sorry, my makeup done. My hair is not done. I haven't washed it in three days but my makeup I just got done um by a girl who I might be using uh from now on or like not from now on but like mixing into my makeup team so we did a trial run that Emily set up and we go oh we'll just bring it to the podcast and so if you're watching at home or on you know on YouTube that's why my face looks so different because I had makeup done that looks amazing.

We'll be back after this and we'll talk about Wicked. Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show, which means he's also back in our ears on The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. The Daily Show podcast has everything you need to stay on top of today's news and pop culture. You get hilarious satirical takes on entertainment, politics, sports, and more from John and the team of correspondents and contributors.

The podcast also has content you can't get anywhere else, like extended interviews and a roundup of the weekly headlines. Listen to The Daily Show, ears edition, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, I saw Wicked, and I really knew nothing going in, except I have been kind of in preparation of it, getting into the Defying Gravity song. I was like, I gotta check out the song.

And when Chris used to do his radio show, was coming to like the Fox Theatre and so they would play little snippets and it was like look to the Western sky it was like that line and then it was like those two lines and I was like I learned them from this ad that I heard over and over when I used to listen to Chris's show every day and so I knew those lines I was like I want to go to the song that has those and that song fucking is awesome oh my god it's incredible it's truly a show stop and there's like 7 songs in it

yeah I don't know what's gonna happen invincible unlimited like there's all these like different areas it goes to and yeah wait so you never saw the musical no I knew nothing I did but I kind of didn't heard of the wizard of oz like i know the beats and i obviously know everything but i don't i never really care did you connect

any of it no i didn't i don't remember anything about i know there's like a witch that had the you didn't read all the books but you didn't connect like can i like say things that happen in the movie that glinda is the good road when they choose the color of the road. Yeah, I know all the... I know that Oz is like, he has the big thing in front of him and he's the small guy behind him. But I don't know the storyline. You knew that Wizard of Oz was a movie, right?

Yes, and I knew that they used asbestos instead of snow. And then the one munchkin that hung himself. Yeah, and the tin Man got cancer from aluminum. Is that true? Yeah. They all kind of died. From their costumes.

Yeah. From their costumes and the asbestos. And the asbestos. Yeah. And then also all of the munchkins, they were kept in a hotel. They were all. There's like a movie about it from the 70s. That's what I heard.

They were kept in a hotel and they were all aggressively sexual. And like they were like really weird with everyone. Wasn't the hotel the Culver City Hotel? The Culver Hotel. It might have been. Yeah, I think that was where... Wow. That was haunted.

It's a historic hotel. Who stars in that movie? It's like Carrie Fisher and Chevy Chase? I think so, yeah. I just heard about it this morning on Chris's radio show. There's a movie about... About the Munchkins. The munchkins at a hotel.

About during The Wizard of Oz. And Carrie Fisher pretended to be a munchkin? No, she was probably like playing Judy Gardner. Like, stop touching me. But one of the munchkins, Jerry Marin, who died in May 24th, 2018. I talked about this before, but it bears mentioning. Half Jerry Seinfeld, half Marc Maron.

Exactly. M-A-R-E-N. But he is a munchkin. And in 2000... That's the correct term. He was a munchkin in the movie. He was a munchkin and he's a little person. In real life,

he's a little person. He's almost like more than a little person. You know how like, he's like, there's maybe, it's like dwarfism. He's got lips.

No, not taller than a little person you know how like he's like like there's maybe it's like dwarfism he's got lips no not taller than a little person he's actually littler than most i think little people ah he looked he was he was different than like the basic not basic but like the the basic model well yeah because all i mean when you go to munchkin land there's a lot of standard size munchkins. Yes. Well, anyway, I go on a flight. It was like 2010 to 12, I want to say. Okay. Before my life has really taken off. Taken off. Wow, this is all plane stuff. A lot of flight stuff.

So we're on the runway, literally. No, I am sitting next to him and his wife, who is also a little person. That's nice. But I don't know who he is. He's just two little people that I'm sitting next to him and his wife, who is also a little person. That's nice. And we're in the back. But I don't know who he is. He's just two little people that I'm sitting next to. And I'm like, oh, this is great. That's very nice for you.

Great. Yeah. Yeah. That was good. Yeah. And not for them. Yeah. So at some point during the flight, we started talking.

And then it was revealed that he was in The Wizard of Oz and one of the only living munchkins. And I was like, oh, my God. And we're flying to L.A. from probably some date I was doing in Boston or something. But it was a long cross-country flight. And I make friends with him and his wife. They give me some kind of memorabilia. I forget, like a picture or something. I really was so dumb not to keep it all. But I'll forget but of course i remember this part he was like you're gonna make

it he like and he was no one had ever said that to me before like i'm not like lady gaga claiming that no one believed in me like and everyone said i wouldn't make it and i'm here dad like i'm not i don't i don't talk like that like no one was ever mean to me and was like you're not talented but no one ever really was like you're don't worry it's gonna Like no one was ever mean to me and was like, you're not talented. But no one ever really was like, you're, don't worry. It's going to be okay. He like kind of,

it was a moment that I will never forget because it was obviously a munchkin from the Wizard of Oz saying this to you. Like a living legend that I then Googled.

It was, I think even before smartphones. But I looked at them later. I was like, holy fuck, this was a legend I spent a whole flight with and they were so nice to me.

That's amazing. Yeah, it was really cool. So that's all I knew about Wicked anybody saying that is nice even if it wasn't a munchkin I don't do it I didn't get that a lot yeah no but I feel like that's like an old Hollywood thing so you kind of expect it from like a living legend munchkin is like yeah like you're gonna make it

but we talked for like a couple hours and I think I'd maybe done the Tonight Show at that point or something but it hadn't been going well it was like this was in like a couple years and I think I'd maybe done the Tonight Show at that point or something, but it hadn't been going well. It was like this was in like a couple years after that and things were not, nothing was happening. Oh, yeah. And it really, I had to make good on that, on his wish for me. He needed to die in 2018 for you to soar.

I took his place in this business. That was the year I really. But Wicked, yeah, I didn't know anything about the story going in. Defying Gravity is so good. It's so good. My favorite lyric

from Defying Gravity is when she rhymes was with Oz, which I don't know why I like it so much. Oh, that's nice. I forgot what the lyrics are,

so I can't possibly even attempt it. I was shocked, shocked watching Wicked to find out there was an animal subplot i mean like i was shocked i can't even i don't even understand like i can't believe no one's talked about there is a subplot of wicked about animal rights it feels like the biggest part of the movie it is the movie well okay so to be why why is it the movie it's in the book it's in the musical it's it's because it it's taking every

aspect of the land of oz from the frank baum original books and the movie and a big part of it were these the enslavement of these flying monkeys and how did those flying monkeys become flying monkeys and why are they working for the wizard or whatever so we never really knew the story behind that or he or he wrote the story behind that and that's what we're watching well the new person who wrote wicked he wrote the book in 1995 the year that the wizard of oz went to the public domain he wrote his book in 1995. The year that The Wizard of Oz went to the public domain, he wrote, his book came out, Wicked. Oh, wow.

Yeah, and that was a big part of it. It's just that. That's all. Period. It was just so shocking because I really just thought it was Wizard of Oz. And then there's like a goat who's like so sad. So sad.

It came out of nowhere. I didn't know there were any animals in this movie at all, let alone ones that talked that were really well done. Well done. So good. I'm worried. I'm worried about part two because part one of Wicked is so good. It's got all the hits.

It's got all the best scenes. What is going to be in two? Part two is pretty sad. It is? And it doesn't have a defying gravity in it. Well, we know the witch is dead yeah well that's what i love i love that we know the ending yeah i love a tragic tale but you know the ending for the you know the ending for her but for the rest of the characters you're

not sure she is the the movie yes well she is the protagonist that is true yeah but there's more to her story that i think you'd lose it if you find out. That part too. Yeah, that's coming. Well, I'm interested that I was reading like, you know, what like we all are just like little things here and there. And everyone's like, is Galinda good or bad? And I'm like, I thought she was good.

And then it's like, no, she might just be a shitty person. But like she has parts like that's the only part that i kind of was like i didn't get there with all of a sudden she's like a good friend and they're best friends and they trust each other the the way the way i kind of have thought about it the past 24 hours is that elphaba was such a like such an ostracized dork that had no friends that she would just take anything because glinda was not a good friend out of the gate. She just was like, I'm just suddenly, oh, you show up at this party

and because you got me the internship with the woman, I'm now gonna be nice to you and do your weird dance with you. And suddenly I'm a great person. No, I'm only being a great person because it's working out for me. She's not really a good friend, but aren't we all just doing things for ourselves anyway?

But that's so quid pro quo. I don't buy that as a reason, a character turn for I'm good now. And I wanted to see Glinda freak out about the fact that the woman, what's her name? Michelle Yeoh. But what's her character's name?

Professor Bollinger or something. Bowling Ball. Mara Ball. Mara Ball, yeah. That's how you know she's bad. Well, she tells Glinda, you suck and I don't believe in you at all. That seems to wound Glinda. Glinda would just be like, yes, I get to work with her.

And now I'm going to be nice to this girl who got me. She would go to Elphaba like, what did you say? Now she hates me. I don't think it would turn into like, I'm just gonna do this nice favor now. And why would her grandma give her that hat? Like, why was that hat? That hat was shoehorned in the thing too.

Is there more story to the hat being there? In the book, there is more to the hat. I don't remember. It was a long time ago in the galaxy far away. It did feel like there was a lot of story being told of how somebody got a broomstick. Well, it's the origin story of the Wicked Witch of the West. I do like the fact that there's no green witches with broomsticks and a hat. They weren't a thing before.

This is the birth of that. That's interesting. Yes, and that there was a magic teacher at the school, but seemingly she's the only person who knows magic. Yeah. Yeah. There's a little bit of confusion in terms of both. And the teacher has to repeat several times,

I'm not working with anyone. If only if I want to. It's like, okay, we know, so maybe if you choose someone, it'll be very special. And I was responsible for that thing that Elphaba clearly did that was almost murdered thousands of students because there was marble and concrete falling.

Like it was Dodger Stadium. It was crazy. And then she's like, I did that as a testament. It's like, oh, thank you. We're putting our lives at risk. I mean, are they immortal? Can they get, like, can they get? No. Okay, they're not immortal. No they get, like, can they get? No.

Okay, they're not immortal. No one's immortal. And we're just okay. So I really, I liked Wicked way more than I thought I was going to like it. I did too. But I, you know what I was just not okay with? Them going to a place called Chiz University. Why is it called Chiz?

It's so wild. It sounds like a bar that someone from the real Housewives would open. Why? Why? Is it Vanderpump Rules? I don't get it either. Is Shiz short for something? I'm sure it is.

I just don't remember. I haven't read this book since I was 18. Sorry. I know we're being critical and it's's really wrong to do that about Wicked. Yeah, because it's one of the best movies of the year. Yes, and it's not nice to do, and it seems like we're making fun of theater kids if you make fun of it. I'm making fun of it because that's the only thing that we can do. I did love it.

There's no question about it. All we have is ridicule. I think I need to read the books to understand it, which I am not going to do. There's no way. I hear they're really long and dark and like maybe, but like now that I know the story, I don't think I'm interested. But they say

the words that they choose to like add a syllable to. It's amazing a goal. That I hate. Why are we doing? I think it's because it's from the Wizard of Oz. Oh, it is? They do that sometimes in certain songs. That did not catch on for me. That I hate. Why are we doing... I think it's because it's from The Wizard of Oz. Oh, it is? They do that sometimes in certain songs. That did not catch on for me. I hate it.

That repulses me. It was just... Again, shoehorned. We're being forced to hear this little thing that you think is very cute and endearing, but it just takes you out of it, and you go, is this person stupid?

No, yes. It makes them look stupid. It makes them look stupid, because it's also like the only people who are doing it are Ariana Granderiana grande and like so i'm like oh she's dumb she doesn't know real words that's that's that's how it read you're so right like my note would have been like we got to cut that out because that makes her look stupid and her character is already bordering on she's a blonde she's kind of dumb she's vapid and all these

things legally blonde type yes but she's not she's not supposed to be stupid, I don't think. No, no, she's not. She is an unhealthy. She's not a good friend. She's an unhealthy three. The most unhealthy three you could be. Yes. Everything she does is for the approval of the masses.

So even when she's doing things to be friends with Elphaba, it's because, like the most clear moment is when they're at the train and she's jealous of the boyfriend and then she's with the boyfriend then Elphaba shows up and at first Glinda's like I don't give a shit about the animal rights and then Elphaba shows up and then the boyfriend shows

up and they're both we care about the animal rights then she immediately changes and says I care about the animal rights and then she doesn't just say I care about the animal rights to get the approval of them. Then she makes a big scene about changing her name. The most visible thing she could do to show. And I like that she goes, I don't know why I did that. Right.

I think we can all relate to doing something where you're like, no one even wanted me to do that. And no one cared. But she got the applause. And she gets the applause over and over again. Yes. That's good yeah they're interesting characters that are very layered and have a lot going on but it's like i i gotta say jonathan jonathan bailey is that his name sure is hubba hubba i know he's that book scene i love how he is just like everyone's horned up for him like he is a bisexual

like phenom yeah he's very he feels like a disney cartoon like when he shows up where he is just like everyone's horned up for him. Like he is a bisexual like phenom. Yeah, he's very, he feels like a Disney cartoon. Like when he shows up where he's just like, like he has muscle definition through his clothes. Like he was drawn. Where did he come from? Who is he? He's English. And I think we're about to see a lot of him.

I loved him. I want to see him in everything. He like, he was so charming. Women were legit swooning in the audience. I know. I was kind of like, I remember he did something that wasn't even that funny and the girl next to me was like,

the way you do with a hot guy. I've literally found myself being more, by the dumb stuff he was doing, I was actually almost like I was Glinda, like being tricked by it. And not even like, oh, we're being tricked by it. Because, you know, you're aware of how cunning he is and like how he is kind of like a cad. But I was I was so enraptured by I think he's amazing. And then they're all their voices are amazing.

Bowen was hilarious. And yeah, Bowen was there to serve. Yeah, the quit machine. Press the button, you get a punchline. Yeah. And he was hilarious. And yeah, Bowen was there to just serve. Yeah, he was the quip machine. Yeah, the quip machine. Press the button, you get a punchline. Yeah, yeah. And he was great. And it just looked so much fun to be in. Like, I can't,

Bowen's my only way to maybe ask someone, like, what was it like being in this movie? Like, I want to know, like, because I was thinking, like, because I heard something that Bowen said that he had learned the choreography to one scene they were shooting in, like, September. And then by by february they're like oh we're shooting it today and he's like oh i don't really remember the choreo so then he did it and he was able to nail

it but like i was like oh my god what if you were the one person in one of those dance scenes that like fucks up the the thing and you have to take it all over and everyone's nailed it like i want to know from a dance perspective what that's like because I would die. Man, just to be the only one that's fucked up. It's like a field goal kicker missing the kick. But if everyone on the team was kicking at the same time

and they all made it. It's literally why I quit improv is I did not like having other people. I could let them down. I don't like being part of that kind of team. Yeah, like, because we were doing the TNF thing, the Thursday Night Football pre-tape that we were doing the other day,

and I kept fucking up. Like, I'd get a really long line of something, and it'd be, like, going, and then I'd fuck up the last line. And, yeah, it's like, everyone's like, oh, damn it, you know, and we all feel a little bit of, like, but it's not, you guys don't have, like, the,

it's not, you weren't performing in that moment i didn't just waste your performance i wasted your time watching it but it didn't feel as like i would i don't know what i would do if like the very last step or something during a number where it's everyone it does their best job oh my god because it must happen there was one time on on a set i won't say what sex i don't want anyone to figure it out but there was one time on a set. I won't say what set because I don't want anyone to figure it out. But there was one time on a set where there was this guy who had one really long line. And it was so long that they even did like a special camera move so that he could say the line. It wouldn't be boring. And he just could not get it.

We were sitting there for like 45 minutes while he tried it over and over again. And it got to the point where we were like, should we just the line it's like what did he do yeah was he not like he just aware he just he had to memorize it you start panicking yeah a moment where you're just like i know i can do this and because you've now lost the confidence to do it yeah it's impossible to get it right and at first you just go like oh sorry about that and And then you start doing the thing where you kind of do that laugh where you go, like, I'm drinking a can of Ziv- I'm drinking a can of Ziv- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that's embarrassing because we all know what's happening in your head when you're making faces and noises like that. And then he got the equivalent of the yips, I would say. And it was maybe like 14, 15 times. And then we were like we're gonna have to bring someone else in or just cut the line and then point i would have said i can't i would have been the one as the actor to be like i got you guys should bring someone else like let me like don't make don't make i'm not gonna make you tell me this i will take myself

and we couldn't break it up into easier lines because there was a camera movement it was like a one shot. Oh, God. And then we were like, we're going to have to break for lunch at least. And then we're like, OK, one last one before lunch. And then he just nailed it. He didn't crush it. He barely crossed the finish line, but it was there. And it was.

No, this happened to me for one of the first commercials I ever did. And it was I only got the commercial because they hired Nikki and Sarah from Nikki and Sarah Live on MTV to do this VMAs kind of cross promo with the Kia hamsters. I love those guys. And you can't say no to them. What's that song? What's the song? The Kia hamsters song?

It's LMFAO. Oh, yeah. It's definitely Party Rock. Sexy and I Know It. Yeah. Sexy and I Know It. It's LMFAO. Oh, yeah, it's definitely. Sexy and I Know It? Yeah. Sexy and I Know It. Sexy and I Know It. Oh, yeah.

They did a lot of like party rocking. Yeah, they definitely did all those. They were good. The Hamster. Or they did the dance. You guys taught me that song. The Hamster Dance. You guys taught me that song. Only three's remember it.

They were like this song. I'm like, the Hamster dance. You guys taught me that song. Only threes remember it. They were like, this song, I'm like, the hamster dance. It was like one of the first things that you could look up on the internet. Oh, yeah.

It was all the way. And it was the hamsterdance.com. Oh, yes. I remember this. And it was little, like, dancing hamsters that was going 24 hours a day

and you would just tune in and they would go, da-da-dee-da-dee. I do remember this. I had to do a scene where we were getting ready for our date night with the hamsters or whatever. The hamsters weren't there in this scene.

But we were in a dressing room and Sarah's on the outside throwing clothes to me. And I'm saying, oh, this doesn't fit or whatever. And I could not get the line. It was the same kind of thing. And it probably went on for a minute before I started totally freaking out. And then at two minutes, I fully broke down and started sobbing crying like i was just in a bad space and i cried it was so awkward oh oh i remember oh my god okay major part of this so i'm i'm i'm already nervous to be on set i um i start fucking up i start

fucking up the lines early on i don't know what i'm doing i feel ugly i'm i'm in a fight with my boyfriend i remember it was just a bad day and then um and then i'm doing i feel ugly i'm in a fight with my boyfriend i remember it's just a bad day and then um and then i'm fucking up this line and then they're they stopped down to change something probably just to get me to like calm down and get rid of the yips or whatever like take a break so they're fixing some lighting or something and then the ghost of the munchkin appeared to you yeah you're gonna make it can i change my answer I've only said this to you and one of the Kia hands and so

this guy that was kind of like not a good vibe just like kind of like didn't want to be there like one of the you know either sound guy lighting guy but like an older guy that was kind of just like smarmy and snarky and saying shitty things. I already didn't like him. And that's rare for me on set. I don't even

remember not liking anyone else on set ever in my life. But so this I remember this guy stood out. And then he goes, you're a comedian. I got a joke. Or no, he goes, he didn't say that. Sorry. Most people say that. He goes, Oh, do you guys hear that? Who did he say? Shit. Hold on. Oh, do you guys hear Melissa Etheridge died? And it's like around the smartphone time, right? And so I go, oh my God, what? Like, I don't love Melissa Etheridge, but like her dying would be kind of sad because

she's like, at this point, this was 10 years ago. She was young. And that's like a thing. I was like, oh, what? Really? And he was like, yeah, she drowned in Ricky Lake. I was just like oh what really and he was like yeah she drowned in ricky lake i was just like what and so i felt dumb because i got upset that she was dead yeah and then i felt dumb that it was just a dumb joke and everyone like laughed around and i was just like sickened by the dumb joke like it was didn't even make sense like they're not even connected they're

not connected i'm actually trying to piece them together. Ricky Lake is not gay. It would make sense if they were both gay and then she was eating her out. But then she wouldn't die. He definitely did not say she died eating someone out. And I was like, who? I would not have been sad by that setup. So it was definitely Melissa Etheridge died.

And then I go, oh my God. And so I looked, so I felt dumb. And then I like could not, then I was just so mad at him and mad that he tricked me and everyone laughed at me believing it and kind of made fun of me for being upset about melissa ethridge dying um that i started crying and i they had to like stop down for a really long time so i could like recover and it was so embarrassing but like brother it when it happens to you like there's no getting out of it like it almost reminded me of that that show we did i know because your brain stops working your brain your brain stops working when you are failing at something that i'm feeling it took it yes it just stops feeding you things to say and you were just so stuck in that moment awful yeah

it's truly terrible but yeah have you ever guys ever gotten the yips in any way of your life where you like froze or had a bad. Doing voiceover with the script in front of me. Like I just I just could not nail a line. Yes. It was like. With a script too. With a script.

And like it's just like I'm in my head. I'm saying it the correct way. And out loud it just was not coming out that way. And then I'm like I got it and then I just started tripping over it even though I'm reading it Salah Salah I couldn't say Robert Salah

we ended up saying like no we're sorry Robert I think it did make it because I couldn't say Salah I've seen you like Salah Salah and then the other guy's name Saquon like these names if you don't read them enough in your head, you cement them. And then someone says them and you go, oh, shit.

But yeah, it's... It's pretty crazy. I feel like it affects literally everyone. Truly, even movie stars I've seen do it. They're just doing the line and being like, fuck. And starting over and going like, fuck. It's just non-stop. I think it's just part of the human condition.

We're not supposed to be memorizing. Oh, yeah, that's probably it. Steve Martin famously got stage fright in his 50s or something, and he didn't step on stage for like 15, 20 years or something like that. Stage fright? He said it was like the Friday Late Show was his reason for

quitting comedy? I mean, I. Cause like drunk crowds just. Well, in Born Standing Up, I think he talked about how he got stage fright. God. Like he couldn't step on stage anymore all of a sudden. He also couldn't go to his own movie premieres because he like had a, his first panic attack at a movie

cause he smoked a little bit of weed and had a panic attack. So he just never went to his premieres and stuff. But yeah, it was the Saturday Late Show. And also I think he was like- Oh, Saturday Late Show. Doing, or Friday Late Show, one of them. Yeah, because they work all day and then they're tired and drunk.

And doing like the amphitheaters, everyone like was not, they weren't listening to him. They were just shouting out like, wild and crazy guy or like Duke King Tut. Yeah, it wasn't fun anymore. It stopped being fun for him. Like I saw that with Norm.

Like one time Norm was at the Irvine Improv and he like was truly bombing. Like bombing from the beginning. It's just so insane that Norm would bomb. He was like, you know, like he was just completely, they were not, he was not in sync with the audience. But at one point like. Hold on. Please.

When he would not be in sync with him would he give a fuck was it really like it didn't seem to if anything he'd double and triple down did he enjoy it like so he felt it it wasn't like he didn't feel the bomb

was he gonna kick out of it and then like afterwards would he be like man I bombed that was awesome no he was like bummed he was bombing

right like he cared a lot but he would like run the light when he was bombing. I guess maybe like somewhere subconsciously. Was he trying to get them back? I think he thought he could get them back even with this.

But like. Interesting. Like he ran the light by an hour. Like it was Adam Egan and I were sitting there and we were just like, we could not believe it because people were just like walking out in droves. You would hear that Norm would walk rooms all the time. Yeah. And I wouldn't believe it. And then I got confirmation because I go, well, people are just walking out in droves. No, you would hear that Norm would walk rooms all the time. And I wouldn't believe it.

And then I got confirmation. Because I go, well, people are just saying that. But it happened a lot. It was crazy. 40 minutes into a show, he got the five minutes of laughter when he first walked on stage. And then for the next 35 minutes, he had completely lost them. Why? How?

How? I think he smoked weed beforehand. Yes, smoking weed beforehand. Was not clicking. His not clicking timing nothing was clicking his timing was messed up and like at one point 40 minutes in someone yelled out do dirty work and adam egan and i laughed for five minutes straight and i think it kind of reinvigorated Norm a little bit. Oh, yes, yes. When was this? The laughing at.

This was 2012, 2013. Oh, my God. But yeah, he walked. It was a sold-out show, so there was like 400 people there. He probably walked more than half the room. Oh, my gosh. And did two hours, including several poems. Is he commenting on the people walking out

or is not noticing it? Just sticking with it, like doing his material and then he's like, oh, you guys don't like jokes, huh? And then he'd be like, oh, here's a poem that I remember reading. He would do like a poem

about like the 1920s Yankees from memory. Well, it is interesting, like you were saying, getting like late in life phobias or when they just come out of nowhere. And we talked about it but i think nate bargazzi said he got claustrophobia out of nowhere like one day it just appeared to him well i think i have that i have something going on because of the mri that i took oh yeah that's right that's right we talked about and now there's a lot of things that i'm like i i can feel that anxiety building up and it's like i

didn't used to have this at all i know i I don't like this adult getting new like anxieties and it really have to work on it you do you have to like I think meditation is kind of well speaking of I I'm tomorrow I'm getting hypnotized well not tomorrow I am having a consultation with a hypnotherapist tomorrow nice yeah and so I'm going to get hypnotized. For what? To try to stop clenching. Oh. Yes. It's going to work. Like your jaw or just your body? My ass. Yeah, it's just too much. Oh, I'm sure your ass too. No, my jaw.

Yeah, to stop clenching my jaw because it's subconscious. A lot of people say it's based on stress and so and you have no control over it because it happens while you're sleeping. God, it sucks. I'm going to see if that works. And then maybe they said like sometimes when you get hypnotherapy for something, other things start to like unravel. And then you release.

Yeah, unravel and things go downhill fast. Then you go crazy. It starts to unwind or something and it releases some sort of. I'm so excited about this. Yeah, like maybe some kind of like deep rooted stress or cause of the anxiety will be tempered because of whatever maybe the clenching is just the fucking tip of the iceberg well definitely yeah it definitely is so yeah i'm excited to report back on whether or not this works oh that's great i have no idea what to expect but i'm going into it 100 believing it will work because i am i desperate. Well, that's when you start praying.

Like you're right away hypnotized. Like you'll maybe meditate and start to pray. Like I remember I was like praying during COVID because I was so depressed. And I was like, I don't know what else to do. And I was like, oh, this is why people like turn to God when there's really no other option. Like this doesn't work. Same with those books that I read to quit drinking and quit smoking.

I think it really helps going into something being like, this is going to work because I think that's the main reason why things do work. Yeah. Well, there was a joke. I don't know if it was Patrice or Neil Brennan or someone like that who had a joke

about why is it that all the- It was Patrice O'Neill Brennan. Patrice O'Neill Brennan Patrice O'Neill Brennan yes yeah from Ireland all why is it that all the poor people that uh get uh are victims of natural disasters are always so religious and there was like walking through these floodwaters praying maybe it's louis actually yeah praying to their to god and it's like god just fucked you like he's you're like his least favorite person um that's just similar but that reminds me of uh the pat oswald joke from maybe it's pat and oswald feeling kind of patent where he was like uh he's talking about bush like this was back when we didn't like bush yeah he's like he's like it's so funny when you meet someone who loves but in their bush and

they're like yeah i fucking love bush and he. And then he goes, Bush fucking hates you. Bush would be caught dead with you. You know that, right? Like Matt, the kind of, of all people, why do you like this person? You know what? We have to take a break. So let's do that and we'll come back with more. Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show,

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I found that the thing that is new for me Is like I gotta get better Final thought for me I feel like my anxiety that I want to conquer That is like showing up That I'm like oh this could spiral Or unravel Is not wanting to watch myself

Or not even It's gotten so bad that even the Gracie Abrams That made me sad that you didn't watch that. No, I did watch her talk about that. I did watch it once. Okay. But no, even that's okay for me to see people. I don't even really like watching people talk about me.

But anything that has to do with me, I don't want to watch. Like even people who did my TikTok, like the TikTok I did, I couldn't watch people do the TikTok that's like, Nikki Glaser, you slayed this. I tried it too. Like, I don't even people do The TikTok that's like Nikki Glaser You slayed this I tried it too Like I don't even want to watch that And I don't even know what that is Because I Oh you know what What it is

Because I feel like If there's a part of it That's not good It's my fault I should have made a cool move For them to make at this part And they didn't know What to do with their hands

At that part And that's my fault And I like made them Come up with something new And it was my Like I I have to get over this because I hate watching myself.

For me. And the only way to, because whenever I have to edit a special and I have to do it, I eventually by the end of it, I could watch anything of myself. It's like trial by fire. Like you just get used to it

and but then I step away from it and I go, okay, now I can watch myself and I step away too long and then it becomes like, I would rather do anything than watch myself. Literally anything. And it's not okay because that's what I do for a living is ask people to watch me. Why can't I do it? That's what I do for a living.

Ask her to watch herself. But do you not watch the stand-up clips I send you? No, I mute them. Oh, Gen ZM. I turn them down and then I scroll through to make sure the captions are right. What the captions are. No, I'm not insulted. I mean, that's, I scroll through To make sure the captions Are right What the captions are No I'm not insulted I mean that's I guess

My job to make it here I already I trust that the sound Is going to be good Yeah The audio The visually it looks good But I'm not going to

Listen to myself And like watch it back No fucking way So you watch Every And anything I send you What do you mean Like TikToks

Like did you watch The full like karaoke like us karaoke thing that us karaoke the one where you're like guessing the lyrics uh yeah i did watch that whole thing i don't mind watching myself if i'm not like performing if it's like something that i'm just like it's clipped together and it's just me talking because the expectations are lower for myself because i'm like well i didn't i wasn't trying to be extraordinary. It's just for TikTok. Yeah. Not just for TikTok, but it's like I'm off the hook a little bit more. Yes.

There was no preparation. I didn't need to. I couldn't have prepared for this. Yes. And like when you've actually done the work, watching yourself, all you're seeing is the flaws that happened. Yes. It's impossible to not. Like, it sucks so much.

Like, I can't. I don't like hearing my voice. I don't like seeing it. So you don't like it either? can't i don't like hearing my voice i don't like so you don't like it either i hate it i hate hearing you blindly post things or will you watch them before you post it oh i'm a blind poster like i am like well that's that's a good thing as long as you don't it doesn't stop you from posting because i found it was stopping me from posting and then as soon as i just go if i don't if i just post it like and i just separate myself from any kind of feedback on it, so I won't even know if it bombs, like I don't even get to know,

then I'm able to still do it but not watch myself and still have a career. But it does help to review your work. It does. It makes you a better person. And when it's like 10 million views, I'm like, I want to tell her that. Like I want to be able to be like, look at it, blew up. I can see like a screenshot of the 10 or whatever, but I't want to watch it again i'll see this listen the numbers are the validation but chris always says like but you you but you know why don't you want to rehearse this

thing that you have to film and read the script over and over when you do stand up a thousand like you'll do a thousand sets to practice something and i'm like because those sets aren't practice it's a real perform like it's not just me sets to practice something and I'm like, because those sets aren't practice, it's a real performance. Like, it's not just me practicing to a wall. Like it's, there's,

it's a performance. So every time I practice, if I work in that each practice is a, something's riding on it, then I'll practice. That's why when I was

learning guitar, it helped so much for me to go on, well, I just haven't played that often. Cause I just don't, I don't have time right now.

And my nails are always too long to play. It sucks. You haven't lost the desire. You're just, no, I love it when I can, but I just don't have time. It sucks.

It's like, that makes sense. And so, but when I was learning how to play, I would go live on Instagram on the Nikki laser pod and it, I wouldn't, there's no way i would have gotten good without it i never would have practiced alone i like when during covid before i was going

live on instagram i would go like mom dad i like and i was living with them and i like would learn a song and play it for them and their responses were not good like they were they were just like okay you know your dad's a guitarist also so he's got a special yeah but also i would think that he would be like a more understanding of the learning process than he was i had to have a little confrontation with him and say hey dad um you can't hold me the same standard as you i want to hear good job sometimes what if like you had a what if you're if arlo or somebody was like i'm gonna want to be a stand-up and they're like 16 at this point or 17 and they start doing stand-up i would only compliment

the i would only compliment them and tell them the things are good at that are like going to make them better. Like I would realize that everyone's supposed to suck at their stage and they shouldn't be as good as me out of the gate. Sure. Wow. Because I have a thing called empathy. Oh, some people lack because they were raised by alcoholics and they're not bad people. They just lack it sometimes.

Dad, I love you No but it's like yeah I it's just I think that's If I if you can get me if You film me reviewing my work and We make a documentary of it or something then I Will do it I would love

Because I didn't that upset because like I feel like for me who's in social media Like it's so hard you know to get a video to go viral So it's like when for her like I know know being, I've never, I think I've told you this, but like any roast clip I post on Instagram, we'll get a million views in like 15 to 20 minutes. Right. And that's insane. Like that's unheard of.

Yeah. Well, and then I don't give myself credit for those. And then she won't. Cause she's like, like, or she'll heart the message. I hope. So she's pissed. I sent her this. Great.

No, not pissed at all. I'll be like, I just, I can't't i can't let it in i know but i don't know you do because i'm like look at that like that because what do i do if i let it in okay let's explore letting it let it in wow everyone likes me so much okay the thing is it's going to go away at some point like i'm not gonna this can't sustain and even if it does great but when i don't want to tie any of my happiness to numbers and fame and like getting things like real happiness because the second i do if it goes away i will i'm so scared of that feeling like that's why i don't spend a lot of money on big things because i'm always scared it's gonna go away and i'm gonna

be on the streets like i need to save. I need to like, I can't. Maybe that, I'm trying to psychoanalyze myself, but I think maybe that's it. No, I know. No, that makes sense. I don't want to let it in because I'm scared it will go away. I know. And that's why I wouldn't love Chris, my boyfriend,

until last May. Because I was scared it was going to go away. Well, May was a great time for all of us. Or I wanted to go away. I want to be able to flee, so I don't want to let you in. I want to be able to leave the industry. I want to be able to like, if this is too much, I want to be able to leave. But don't want to let you in I want to be able to leave the industry If this is too much I want to be able to leave But if you're getting 10 million views on everything

You can't pull out There's too many people counting on you The only way to keep doing it Is to just never stop doing it You just have to keep going You have to keep going forever Never taking a break No you can't take a break

The break is like, look at somebody like Dane Cook, who was just such a huge, huge, huge star, doing movies, still doing stand-up. Then he started doing so many movies, he stopped doing stand-up, and then it just went away. It went away, and he's building it back,

which has been actually really fun to watch, and he's doing it again. I just subscribed to his YouTube, and I'm like, which has been actually really fun to watch. And he's like doing it again. Yeah. Like I just I just subscribed to his YouTube and I'm like, I'm back on the Dane train. Like I I feel like this is like MySpace 2004 or something like I feel like I'm on the ground level of Dane Cook again. I'm like, I'm actually interested in his. He's making me laugh again in ways that like are reminiscent of the first time he was super funny on spades podcast to the and like talking about this documentary he made about like his brother stealing all his money and i was like i can't wait to watch this documentary he sold it

so well that i'm like oh man for the first time in 20 years take my money dude i made chris watch a really really long dame cook clip the other night that was like probably six minutes long. The Relationshit? What is it? Relationshit. Is that the title of a... That's one of his six minute long bits that I don't remember. It was something about, it was about texting.

It was longer ago than just the other day. It was like months ago, but it was about texting and just like the intricacies of it. And it was reminiscent of his style of like, and then we do this. And then the bubbles come up and the bubbles go away. You ever, the bubbles just don't come back. And it's like, it's stuff that maybe stand-ups haven't explored.

But I just, I was there for it. I'm 100% there. It's so annoying that people pretend like Dane Cook sucks at stand-up. Everybody that's our age. And he'll clip this and it's going to end up somewhere. I talk about it all the time and say like it's bullshit that anyone says he's our age. And he'll clip this and it's going to end up somewhere. I talk about him all the time and say

it's bullshit that anyone says he's not funny. His first album was one of the best comedy albums of all time. It was the first comedy album for our generation. You weren't even born for this. He was so huge. You don't understand how huge he was.

You're already saying the bubbles thing and I relate to that. Who would you compare him to now? I mean, like, he was like— Chapel Roan? I mean, yes, kind of. It was overnight. Overnight, and it was stadiums. Although it wasn't overnight, because he was working behind the scenes to get email.

So it was kind of like Sabrina Carpenter, almost, because it was like years and years, and then all of a sudden— It was like millennial, I think, boys especially. There were a few things that defined their sense of humor one of them was Family Guy and one of them was Dane Cook

without a doubt but it was like crazy because like I had just started stand up and like I bought that album and I like loved that album I was listening to it and then

but then you kind of noticed like a year later everyone you went to high school with which was still so fresh to me started liking him. And I'm like, you guys know him?

This is like my secret thing. Oh, I didn't get into him until probably like the masses did. Okay, we got to go. But enough about Dane. Great show. We're going to have one for you. We're going to tape it right after this.

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