The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #505 The Dark Side of AI, Nikki's Breakthrough & The Super Bowl Matchup

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

Nikki might not remember the title of the book she’s reading, but it’s already helping her in so many ways. Like, forcing herself to do something hard first thing in the morning has boosted her confidence for the rest of the day. Sean O'Connor is back, and Brian has a unique take on why social media is the worst. They all stan the latest SNL episode, dive into how AI is changing content creation, how loneliness is pushing people to seek validation from bots and why meditation works. Nikki’s totally over garbage TV, and after watching The Wizard of Oz this weekend, Sean's convinced it’s the ultimate example of storytelling. In the Final Thought, Nikki’s all about getting everyone to watch Sidewalks of NY, they review the teams that made it to the Super Bowl (and whether it was shady how they got there),  and chat about the modern human condition. Subscribe to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts to get this episode ad-free, and get exclusive bonus content: https://apple.co/nikkiglaserpodcast  . Watch this episode on our Youtube Channel: The Nikki Glaser Podcast Follow the pod on Instagram: @NikkiGlaserPod Nikki's Tour Dates: nikkiglaser.com/tour Brian’s Animations: youtube.com/@BrianFrange More Nikki: IG More Brian: IG More producer Noa: IGSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We have, as always, Brian and Noah. Hey guys. Hello. And then via Zoom, who you know and hasn't been on the show for about three weeks, but a favorite of the show, Sean O'Connor. Hi. Hi. Excited to be here over Zoom. My favorite way to perform.

It's the worst. Did you guys do any shows in COVID over Zoom? What did you do? I mean, I think I, uh, I initially was like, yes, the world shut down. Like everyone's going to be as bad at standup as I am because we're all not doing shows. And then shows started popping up and I was seeing footage of people doing them. So I said yes to one. And then it just felt so unlike a stand up show that I was like,

oh, people aren't getting better from doing these. I can just not do these. That's what that's kind of how it felt. Did you guys do some? I played quick flash on like for an audience with like, we would have guests on and like, it was very fun, but it was not stand up. I mean, you could just do stand up in your mirror and it would be the same thing, wouldn't it? Yeah, and I don't think that there's anything wrong with doing that.

I think it would be good sometimes to practice stand up more. I think we convince ourselves, like, you have to do it in front of an audience. No, it doesn't count. I mean, yeah, you don't know if something's funny or not doing it to the mirror, but I think it would help to practice to nobody. Oh yeah. When I write new jokes, I like just pace around my living room,

like talking to myself and that's kind of like just performing it. It's just like, you can kind of sense when something has at least the cadence of a bit and then it helps sitting down and just like writing a standup bit is like nearly impossible. I think I'm going to walk around and talk it out. I've tried to do that. I'm trying to like, I'm going to sit down on my computer and write, stand up, but it just feels like you're writing a memoir that sucks. Oh my God. It so does. That's what I did yesterday. I went and wrote a memoir and it did feel like a chapter. I was like, this could just be a chapter of a book I'm writing. And it's like, it's not the same. You're right. And it's, but it did feel like I accomplished something just by

doing it. I, yeah, I had a pretty productive yesterday. Yesterday, it didn't work out, but I realized the only reason I really need to work out is so that I can do something that feels like really hard and get past it. And then I have self-esteem for the rest of the day, because I did something that like, I wanted to quit, but I went past it. then I have self-esteem for the rest of the day because I did something that like I wanted to quit but I went past it. So as long as I do anything that is something I don't want to do and persevere, I could have that euphoric, I worked out feeling the whole day. I don't need to always do a workout class. I think the workout class is just the easiest way to get that feeling done.

But yesterday I just went to Starbucks and like forced myself to write out this story that I've been that actually told on the podcast. And then someone wrote to me was like, you should make that a stand up bit. And I was like, Oh, I never even thought about that. So I just wrote that out yesterday. And I felt so accomplished after doing it. I was like, I don't need to go hold a plank now. Like that was the equivalent for my brain. You just need to do one thing a day that you hate it so much. And that book that I'm reading about breaking through blocks, or what I forget what it's called. That just sounds like, I think that's the name, right?

That's Neil Brennan's podcast. I think that's the new Mario Party thing. Yeah. But it's just, yeah, it's telling me that like, when you, yeah, when, even, and we all know this, like even just the little, like every single thing needs to start with someone typing one word. Like every movie you've watched was a guy sitting down and it was one word at one point. It was like, int, period. Like living room, dash. Like everything started with one step and I think that it's the most

unprofound thing I've ever said in my life. But of course, it's just a nice reminder of like, I can't look at like, oh my God, I've gotta write 20 more new minutes of standup. It's like, why don't you write 20 seconds, try that. And that will then lead to the next. Like everything has to be about the, it's all or nothing for me.

So if I can't write 20 new minutes in one sitting, I just don't even wanna do it. The difference between that and like working out though is like you can't fuck up working out. Like if you worked out at all, even if it was bad, you're always going in the positive direction. Like you could sit there and try to write for like two hours and get nothing done and then feel shitty. But you can't go to the gym for two hours.

No, no, I disagree. I think it's this. I think it literally is the exact same. Because even if you're writing complete trash and it's just words that you'll never use, you are if you're doing the artist's way, which is like they always in the artist's way, she says to wake up every morning and write three pages of just nonsense. Like, just get the dirt out of your brain. Like, get it out. Release anything that's not, like, anything you want to say, it doesn't need to be much. And that is, sometimes when I go to a class,

my hips aren't up, I'm not going all the way down on my squat, like, it's trash. It is like, it feels like I accomplished, I almost went backwards in terms of what I'm doing. Because I feel the exact opposite. I feel like when I write, if I write trash, I feel like I didn't get my hips up during the time. No, no, no. It is the same thing, but you did something getting your hips like doing it,

holding a plank at all without your hips up. It's still something you're like, you're getting, you're dusting off the shelf in order to then take the books off and rearrange it like you're not you at least it's you dusted something off you got trash out that needed to get out for that good idea to come through ultimately. Do you agree? Yeah, I completely agree. I feel like with writing, especially like everything can be fixed. Like, like even if you did something that was completely shitty and you did it for like two hours and you hate it when you reread it, you can fix anything.

Like, the delete button exists for a reason and I love rewriting. It's my favorite thing in the world. But you have to go back and read the thing that you wrote then. See, that's the problem for me. I wanna just send you guys this story and go like, what do you think?

And then like, let's talk. Like, I don't want to look at it again. I want to just, I'm not good at reviewing ever anything. I don't. You want to be an old Irish woman who throws it into the ocean. Yeah. What's a go away.

Burn and Jern. Jern and Burn. Like you, that's what my friend Kirsten used to do. She's journal and then she burns it. Journal and Burnal. And so it's like, yeah. But I mean and then she burns it. Journal journal. Yeah. But I mean, I don't, I don't know. It just felt good.

You know what I would love is it, I would love AI to be in my pocket and to just be recording every single thing I said, especially when I'm hanging with my friends and I'm feeling real comfortable. And then just to take note of everything I ever said in my life and take note of the times when it's like, that could be a bit, here's what it was written out. You just need friends to tell you to fucking write shit down.

Nobody tells me to write shit down. That's the problem. We all need to do that more for each other. Like Sean, I think I've done it to you a bunch on the road where I'm like, no, I go like write that down and then we both laugh like, we're not really actually gonna, and I go, no, literally take out your phone right now, I wanna watch you write that down and then we both laugh like we're not really actually gonna and I go no literally Take out your phone right now. I want to watch you write it down because it feels so stupid to

just completely derail a conversation where you're like just Comfortable and relaxed like you were saying and then like get out your phone and like jot it down But it's you got to do it and you got to have friends that are gonna force you to do it in the same way like even if you're listening and you're not a writer or something like in the same way that like if your friend looks cute, take a fucking picture of them. Take a picture of your friend. They need it for their socials.

They need it for their online profile, especially if they're a single guy. Take pictures of your single guy friends when they look handsome. If you have any kind of photography skill whatsoever, they desperately need it. It will help them so much. Men don't have pictures of themselves. So we all need to encourage each other like, hey, wait, no, I'm serious. You need to do that. You should make that into something.

Because it just takes a little push. I mean, none of us would be doing what we're doing today, I think, if it was just all reliant on our own selves to be like, I think I'm good at this. I should do this. Didn't it take someone going like, yeah, you're like, just a little nudge. That's why I'm saying it can be AI. All we need is an AI assistant to do it.

It doesn't need to be a real person. We need to just support our friends more. I feel like, I mean, I'm watching, I completely am done with Twitter, I'm never going back on it. Hell yeah. Because it's way too. Whoa, it sucks so much. I hate it. But everyone is so negative about every little thing. And I feel like I through reading that this weekend, I was just like, I need to be more supportive of all my friends.

Like if they have like a good idea, I'm gonna push them. I'm not going to take a picture of them if they're single. That will, that's a weird thing for me to introduce to my friend group. Yeah. Okay. But I think it would help them honestly. Like if you're like, you look cool, man. I know you, you probably can't do that. I can't expect you to do that. I mean, it would be great if you did because then your friend could find love and like happiness in this world, but that's okay. I want them to I want them to.

Most of the people I've known for like more than 15 years and it would be a drastic shift for you. It would it would make it seem like I just got word that I'm getting canceled and now I'm trying to show that I was like really not. That these people are friends with you. Yeah, you're trying to get alibis. That's a really good point. I'm glad you're getting off Twitter because I'm starting to feel like social media is

starting to die. I feel like, like for example, Nikki, you have 2 million followers on Instagram right now, 2M, huge accomplishment obviously. 2M, huge. Brian predicted it back in May. We finally made it. I predicted it back in May. I did this.

If you did the same exact things, like the same exact series of events occurred in 2014, you would have 10M right now. Really? Without a doubt. Yes, without a doubt. Is that... Ooh. Okay.

Something's going on where it's just like people aren't following anymore. I think it's probably because of the algorithm where you just get served things that you want. Like they'll be. You don't really need to follow anymore. You don't need to follow anymore. Yeah. Although I do because I make it, you know, that thing you can check where sometimes you're

like, why am I getting this video? And you press on the little three dots and it goes, um, for 30 days only give me things I'm following. I mean, it doesn't say that, but it's some version of that. I click on that and I'm in that right now where I'm not getting served any suggestions. I got to go to an explorer page if I want it. And that makes me go, okay, I need to unfollow the things I'm following that I don't like and I need to follow stuff I do want.

So it should be about curating it to what you like. But you're right. If you're just going off of what they give you, they already know you. They know what you want. You don't need to follow anyone anymore. Here's what happened. This is a tragedy beyond comprehension. When social media began, it's beyond comprehension. Well, try to make us comprehend it. I don't even know why you're attempting this if it's beyond comprehension. Well, try to make us comprehend it. I don't know why you're attempting this if it's beyond. I mean, that's just what I try. When social media began, you would friend people

and they would friend you back. It was a mutual agreement. It was Friendster, right? It was. Well, you have that in Facebook. It was, hey, I'm in your social circle. Let's be friends. There wasn't followers.

And then Twitter came along and created followers. But still, there was a friends. There wasn't followers. And then Twitter came along and created followers, but still there was a lot of follow, follow back. It all came to an end when social media became less about being social and more about being a creator and being followed. And then once you were a creator and being followed, then it was all about what can I make? And it took away the social aspect. And now what's happening that we have, because we have AI, Mark Zuckerberg just went and had this big conference or whatever he was doing where he announced that Instagram and Facebook

is going to start generating more and more AI creators that create content that's specifically catered towards people so that people aren't following people anymore, they're just following AI. Why would you tell us that you're going to do that? Who wants that? Who is looking? Zuckerberg wants that because he doesn't know what so he has no social.

But he knows what people want. They do their focus groups. They know what people want more than anything. That's why they're so popular. So why would they think people do people want AI content? I think people will want it. What do you say, Sean? Yeah, they're I think people will want it. What do you say, Sean? Yeah, they're begging for people to want it,

but I don't think they want it. What is happening right now are there's these like four companies who are going on a tour of every company in Silicon Valley, telling them about how this is the next big thing. And like at this point, Mark Zuckerberg and like, they're all kind of so detached from reality that they're just believing the salesman that is selling it. And I do think I'm hoping this all blows

up in their face. I really think everyone needs to take a gigantic L. I don't mind AI when it's like makes Trump like making out with Putin or something, you know, like kind of, like, you know, like I don't mind clear AI things that that's intriguing to me. I also, oh my God, I loved the SNL sketch this week about the AI podcasts, which was so on point and so good if you've heard any of these AI podcasts, which I did hear mine.

Spotify this year, Spotify wrapped, did a customized podcast for you based on your listening habits. That was a girl and a guy talking about, man, Nikki, what a year it's been for you. It seems like in May, you really started listening to a lot of pop punk girl, like Pilates, princess beats. And then they go, and they and they have like the hmm I don't know about that wow well this song really resonated it was in Chris and I listened to it and we were like whoa this is it's uncanny you know like it sounds like two people having a conversation but there's something a little off about it. Suspish. It always feels like I don't know if you've ever

watched like a foreign language thing with the English like dub. Overdubbed, yes. That's what it sounds like. It always feels that way where like they're taking away the emotion from the scene. So you think every Japanese actor is just like super serious at every moment. Wait, they're not? Oh my God, I just found out that they're not. But they've really parodied that, parodied that perfectly, I thought on SNL. And I was like, I wonder if people haven't

heard these like fake podcasts, if they would think this is funny. But I thought that was, it was Timothee and, and Bowen doing the podcast. Wait, are they calling Timothee again? No, but I am. I just like it. And I thought it was so good. That was probably the best sketch of the night, I think. Oh, really? That's funny because I was going through. I didn't see the last 20 minutes, so if there's a better one at the end, I didn't see it.

There's a lot of bangers. It was a good episode. I loved it. I thought Timothy really delivered. I'm like you, Brian. I will die for Timothy. He's so amazing. He's such a great guy and he's so charming.

I loved his musical performances. I thought. It was so amazing. He's such a great guy and he's so charming. I loved his musical performances. I thought. It was so cool. Yeah. Oh, his second one especially where it was just like him talking about three men walking down the street, stepping over the cracks in the sidewalk. And then they walk through a dust bowl

and then they see a girl with an umbrella. Like his like, he was like, it's just, you know, he was acting, but he was was also I won an album from him I was I was totally sold on it. He did a really good job I loved the podcast the one where they were doing men are scared to go to the doctor now and they're getting all their medical Information from podcasts. So now it's like they're they trick men into like thinking they're on a podcast just to go see a doctor I really recommend you watch it. No, that was the best one.

There's another one about podcasts that I'm not thinking of. No, it was Bowen and Timothee and they were in an AI. Oh, that's not the one I was thinking of. I was thinking of Medcast. Medcast was hilarious. Yeah, that was my favorite sketch of the night. So good. So it was the whole SNL evening was kind of like Golden Globes coded.

Like there was that one joke about Amelia Perez and then there was Adam Sandler introduced Timothy. So that was so exciting when I go back, babe, because Chris was like on his computer and I'm like, because it was like, I just saw Adam standing there. I'm like, I know what's going to happen. He's introducing to me. Just because they're buds. I think so. I think I had heard a rumor know what's gonna happen. He's introducing Timothy. Timothy Shaller. Just because they're buds? I think so.

I think I had heard a rumor that Timothy was like at his daughter's bar mitzvah. Maybe that was another celebrity, but I think they were already buds. I think they already were aware of each other. There's no way that Timothy wasn't already an Adam Sandler fan, and I can't imagine. Well, of course.

He loves comedy. Why was Sandler there at all? He was probably in town and someone at SNL was like, who, you know, I don't know. Maybe Timothy asked. I have no idea. I guess I could ask Emil. Um, and then he said all he did that night was introduce.

Yeah, I think he just hangs out at SNL when he's probably in town and goes to the taping, especially if he knows the host. And then I think they were probably like, I, everyone was like, Nikki Glazer made this happen. I don't think, I think it would have happened regardless of my thing, but it was still very cool. Yeah, yeah. It was super cool.

Like that always happens when it's the dual performer. They always have like a cameo to introduce them. Like Julia Fox introduced Charlie X. Oh, okay, I didn't know that. Because the host isn't there to introduce the musical guest. So they need a cameo host, I see. Yeah. It was also cool, they had Lin-Manuel as a cameo.

And he had just to stand and be frozen for like four minutes and then they kept calling it out. That was so funny. I'm obsessed with SNL right now. Like I love this season. I love watching it. Andrew Dismukes, I always feel like I'm saying his name wrong. I was, I loved his weekend update where he has a, he's doing a stand standup act and he's like, I've incorporated a puppet into it that plays my dad. And the dad is doing dad jokes and then the dad gets really somber and the dad just starts telling Andrew how proud he is of him and saying all the things that a male comedian would want to hear from their father. And then he turns it on Colin Jost and he's being proud of just, it's so layered and vulnerable and strange.

And it was just, I loved it so much. I'm trying to think of, there was something, there were like a couple things this weekend that I was like, whoa, there was a lot of vulnerability behind that that was like almost masquerading as like comedy, but it was almost too, it was like, even like the Oedipal arrangements commercial was like wild. Wow, that was very sexually charged.

It was so wild to the point where like we watched SNL with Nolan on my Sunday morning and I was like, yikes. Yeah, yeah. But luckily like, yeah, my wife was jerking them off. So they got it. They were distracted living out the sketch. Okay we gotta go to break and we'll talk more after this. Hi I'm Arturo Castro and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Brat City and Narcos and Roadhouse

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Okay, well, show me. Okay, so look at this video of, I mean, look at this video. Can you see it in my? Yeah, it's an AI woman, I'm guessing, who is standing with a selfie. She's not real. She's not real, but I mean, doesn't she look real? Yeah, I mean, we've all seen this.

Okay, but like the thing about it is that, in all the comments, everybody- It's like a hot girl just kind of posing, taking a selfie, you guys. Yeah, but in all the comments, everyone is acting like she is real. There's tons, and I go and investigate the accounts of the people who are commenting on this,

being like, you're so beautiful. And they seem like real people. They're mostly over 40 or older. And they have pictures of off-road vehicles in a ditch. They have pictures of them. They're just all they have. Like you go to their main page and it's just lots of camo. I'm gonna be honest with you.

Most of them are pictures of them with their wife and kid. What? And they're going, what's up, babe? You're so beautiful to these AI girls. No way. Yes, yes. I did a full-fledged journalistic investigation of the commenters on these AI influencers.

Do they think comments aren't like public? I don't even understand why you would do that if you had a wife that you're publicly open with. I don't get it. I don't get it either. And do they not know that the girl is AI? Is it not saying the thing? I don't think they know. And also 237,000 followers for this AI bot.

I just don't think the world is smart enough for social media. My little brother follows every hot celebrity and likes their things as if they're going to suck his dick because he threw a light at Cindy Sweeney or Brianna Chickenfry. It's embarrassing when you see your male friends liking posts of hot girls that they don't know. It's really embarrassing when you see like, I've never seen your guys' names underneath stuff that's embarrassing. I mean, I definitely-

Well, don't follow Rihanna. I've always done her. No, you've got to support Rihanna. You got to throw Rihanna a like. Like, liking is one thing, but I do picture you double tapping it with one hand in your dicks in the other like I do picture just your mouth is slightly agape And I know what you look like when you're double tapping it as you're either shitting or or touching yourself But um, yeah, it is

It's mindless and but I feel like most of that bots Followers are probably bots. It's like everybody says bot action. That's what everybody says, and that's why I, because that's what Allie was saying. She's like, but it's just other bots following these accounts, and then I dug in. I want to DM these people, because I really, you can't tell anymore, because they might be AI just answering back to what you're saying,

but I don't think they're bots. I don't think they're bots. I think they are actual people who just think that, or don't care. I think they are actual people I think or don't care I think people are very lonely too like I was thinking if I was a lonely person that didn't have much going on and there was a way to Simulate someone being my boyfriend and texting me I fucking do it you guys I would do it And if I heard that people were like convinced that it's their boyfriend. I wouldn't go what what idiots? I'd be like, I wanna be convinced that's my boyfriend.

I wanna feel the feelings. Like if I can manufacture that feeling, I drink to feel happy, I smoke weed to feel happy, I'll fucking do it. Yeah, with the girl, the Brad Pitt. Yeah, the Brad Pitt AI. Sure. I mean, she sent, the worst Photoshop's too.

I'm just being a little AI. I think this woman has a macular degeneration. She should get her eyes fixed if she thought that those were real. That just makes me concerned that people that don't have good eyesight are more susceptible to this kind of- Or she's delusional.

I mean, she could just- She sent him like $30,000. Like Brad Pitt, world famous actor. Dude, it's wild. Well, that's the other thing is it's not just that they're following them and they're convinced that they're they're real. Yeah.

I forgot what I was going to say. But well, I know. Here's what I'll say is that I know there are men and women out there who are talking to someone that they think is me and they're having a personal private conversation that they think I sought them out because they seemed they were in a fan group that I thought you're a real good fan and they are probably sending money to a person they think is me because I my manager has all my money yes I have lots of money but I just don't have access to it right now because my manager's like he his house burned

down and the phone that he sends me money on was in the house. Like some lie because I know someone that is a normal, intelligent person who thinks they're in a relationship online with a celebrity that is not a celebrity that would ever seek, if he's such a huge celebrity, they would never seek out a relationship with someone they found in a Facebook fan group. But this is like, this happens. and it's definitely you know gear I think these

people also do know it's not real but they just let themselves kind of let go and believe it because what else they got you know it's kind of one of those things but I think that's why I had to crack down on not doing meet-and-greets anymore just the idea of someone coming up to me and they have had tons of sex with me in cyber sex had tons of sex with me in cyber sex world with whoever's playing me like there's someone that's sending foot pics to someone and jerking them off virtually as me without question i would put all of my money on it there's that that's happening because i if you go to matt rives instagram there are people in his

comments constantly going like my friend thinks she's talking to you. My friend thinks, my best friend is in love with you and is coming to see you, like you are sending her nudes. It's not like, there's so many Matt Rife ones. I mean, it's, these people, there's no amount of posting, hey, I will never reach out to you, that's not me. There's no amount of posting that,

even putting it in your bio, that will make people convince that it's not you. They wanna hear, they wanna believe. That's it, if you wanna believe it, you's not me. There's no amount of posting that, even putting it in your bio, that will make people convince that it's not you. Because they want to hear, they want to believe. If you want to believe it, you'll believe it. I can't be meeting people that think that they've had a relationship with me. It's too strange. That's too dangerous.

It's crazy. Yeah. And I remember what I was going to say. The thing, if you believe that the person is real and you're interacting with them, these guys that are interacting with these AI influencer girls, they don't realize that the person that is creating this AI girl is probably some weird guy. So you're jerking off to like the creation of some weird guy who's making these AI girls.

Aren't we all the creation of some weird guy? No, I mean, but you're 100% right, Brian. And I think that's why I'm not susceptible to it is because when I got to AOL in 1995, me and my friends would constantly pretend to be lesbians and cyber with other boys pretending to be lesbian. That's all it was. It was so exciting. Age, sex, location, talking about penises.

Right. ASL. I remember that. Oh my God. It wasises. Right, ASL, I remember that. Oh my God, it was amazing. Man, ASL. Sean, you though, you won't eat white sauces because it reminds you of semen. So you're so, not only will you not take pictures of your male friends or converse with a bot

that might be made by a man, you are so terrified of any, you won't, you do not like white sauces. You don't like an Alfredo, you won't do a cheese dip, you won't like a white cheese dip. You won't do a ranch. What about milk? Ranch. I don't like milk.

We won't drink a glass of milk. I won't drink a glass of milk. A tahini, you've never had a falafel in tahini? No, I've never done it. Not even tahini? No, not even tahini? No. What about toothpaste? Yeah, what do you do with that? You got to go Crest Blue?

You have to have a stripe through it? We have like opera for us. Shut up! Really? Is this real? Yeah. I'm just kidding. Ah!

Dude, that's so funny. Oh my God. And I'm guessing you don't like use lotions. No, not really. Men don't really even need lotions. I feel like at this point I need them and I'm going to start doing them. It's so funny. Men start doing like, I think I need an under eye cream around 40 is when and women start around 17 months. It's crazy. We start so young. Like Chris for the first time was like, I think like my under eyes might need, like what

would I do? And I'm like, there's literally 6 million products that could address that. I love a good under eye cream. I love when it tingles. What's that? I don't know. I mean, I use to have this under eye cream that you put on the bags of your eyes and it tingled. And I don't think it under eye cream that you put on the bags your eyes and it tingled and I don't think

I don't think it's probably good for you Are you putting it in your eye or just under because you put it under your eye and your bags go away and I Didn't it work? No, it doesn't nothing makes bags go away except surgery. Can we just talk about get on board with that girls? Nothing and maybe lymphatic drainage, but no one wants to rub your face for 30 minutes in the morning. I've saved a million videos teaching me how to do it. You rub behind your ears first to release the drains, and then you do a sweeping, gua sha motion. It does work if you wanna depuff your face,

but it takes way too long. There's no cream that will depuff your eyes. They just is the way they is. They is the way they is. Last night I like had a, I like almost started crying. I was like, had a, you know, I was Oh, last night I like had a, I like almost started crying. I was like, had a, you know, I was just, booty, I guess, I don't know.

I had just eaten a whole bag of skinny pop by myself. And like, that's not a huge deal, but it's not great. Like, you know, I just, I, half a bag is usually what I like to do per sit, per sitting. It's like, I think two and a half, three servings, you know? And then I do polish off the bag the next sitting, but one sitting for one bag.

It's not great. I didn't feel good. I already, it was not, I just felt disgusting. And I was like, I just was like crumpled it up and like told Chris like, well, I'm just going to be fat tomorrow. And like, just was like trying to taunt him to say that I'm not, you know, but he didn't like take the bait. And, um, and then I like kind of, and then we were also watching Celebrity Jeopardy. And I think that's why I ate

the whole bag because I was imagining being on Celebrity Jeopardy because I do want to do it at some point. And I was playing along and Chris was getting them all so much faster than me. And I was also like, I got to say what is, who is, when, you know, like I have to do the right way because I need to get start practicing, right? So he's the hardest part. He's not even doing those things, but he's also beating me to it Anyway, and so I'm like I'm so dumb and then a question came up that was you know, essentially the question was what is the most populous city in Brazil and

What would you guys have said? Brasilea city in Brazil and what would you guys have said? Brasilia. Rio de Janeiro. Yeah, that's a great guess, Sean. It's not right. Brian, what would you guess? I said Brasilia. I don't know what that city has never even heard of in my life. São Paulo.

It's São Paulo. São Paulo. Is it São Paulo? São Paulo. São Paulo. São Paulo. OK. I would never have known that. Brasilia is the capital of Brazil. Well, thato Paulo. Okay. I would never have known that. Brasilia is the capital of Brazil. Well that's amazing. I was saying I've never even heard of that to insult me, not you, by the way. I knew you knew what you were talking about. I said Buenos Aires because I'm an idiot and I just figured that's in Brazil.

I just picked a city in South America. Yeah. And man, I just was like, what if I said that on TV? And Chris was like, okay. And I go like, that is so dumb. Like that's Argentina, right? And he's like, yeah. And I'm like, oh my God, like I can't be on the show.

Like what if I say something so dumb? You know where you're just like, and that's not like, and then all I wanted him to say, do you ever like, are you ever trying to get an answer out of your significant other that's gonna make you feel better, but they just like, won't give it to you? All I really wanted him to say was like,

that's not that dumb, Nikki, like it's a South American city, like it's, you know, you know, it's, if you haven't been there or whatever, it's fine. But instead, he was just like, that's the question is not going to come up. Oh, my God. And he's like, and he's like, people won't remember Seth Green lost. He was just out. As long as you're having fun, it's going to be great. I'm like, this is not what I want to hear. So I know it's not bad. Just like, I'm just so stupid.

I can't go on that show and I'm not going to embarrass myself in front of everyone. And he's like, you haven't even been asked. And I'm like pouting in bed just like, I'm just so stupid, I can't go on that show and I'm not gonna embarrass myself in front of everyone and he's like, you haven't even been asked and I'm like, pouting in bed. Do you ever have those moments where you just become overly, I guess you guys aren't women so you probably don't, but you're gonna start getting more estrogen so you might start like, where you get emotional

about a thing that's not even happening and like, I just, I have this, and then we, I was actually talking to Taylor at lunch the other day about fears and her fear, because she's a, I forget what Eddie Graham she is, but she has a fear of being stupid, of someone like seeing that she's not as intelligent as she is. And Chris's fear is being incompetent and not being able to help, like breaking his legs or something and like not being able to be the person that can get you something and help. And I was talking to Taylor about my fear and I'm like, my fear is like not being, like not reaching my potential is my fear because I'm a three. But I don't really fear being stupid. So I even said this at lunch on Friday. I was like, I don't care if people know I'm not intelligent.

So then why did I freak out about this Buenos Aires thing? I don't even know. So maybe my fear is being unintelligent. Well, if you're basing it off of the Enneagram, then it's because being on Celebrity Jeopardy in and of itself is a performance. And if you get an answer wrong, you are performing poorly. And the conservative aspect.

Yeah. You're not reaching your potential of winning Celebrity celebrity jeopardy. Yeah, and I do. Yeah. Yes. OK, that's a good point. But I also I do feel like some there are certain things where if you don't know them, people just go, what?

Yeah. And then they question everything about you. Like you didn't know that. Like I have that kind of idea in my head where it's like. You didn't know eggs came from hens? You thought they came from chickens? Kind of. Yeah. Yeah, I mean. Yeah.

I think I did. Yeah. Well, I mean, a hen is a type of chicken, so it's still technically true. Yeah, I think in my way, I'm like, I think I'm technically right that it is a chicken chicken, but I do feel very stupid right now. Yeah. I feel like, you know, like I just, but here's what Chris said to me.

He was like, oh, this was the other thing that I was like, that's not what I want to hear. And then he goes, listen, going on Celebrity Jeopardy, it's incredibly brave. Most celebrities don't do it because they don't want to look stupid. They're so obsessed with their image and accidentally saying Buenos Aires instead of Sao Paulo. That Paulo, Sao Paulo? Thank you. That they fear looking dumb.

I know that one of the smartest people I think that exists wouldn't be a lifeline for me when I did Who Wants to Be a Millionaire Celebrity. Wouldn't even be a lifeline that I call, right? Because he said that he prides himself so much on that that it would be too embarrassing. Like he's been asked to do every single like smart person celebrity thing and he will do none of them because it is too too terrifying. I'll tell you guys who later but it's literally one of the smartest people that's probably ever existed in our industry.

And he won't do anything. It's the same way that Anya won't sing karaoke, even though she's the best singer in the room, she doesn't want to do the thing on a stage that could potentially in front of novices make her look just like everyone else. Maybe that's why, I don't know. On top of that, like where,

honestly, whenever I've been in a karaoke and somebody really fucking goes for it and like crushes it, like and they clearly are a professional singer, everyone I'm with is kind of like, oh so they just come here to feel better about themselves? Yeah, you do ride that line of like being a show off because you are a professional.

But I'm sorry, if you're a professional professional get up there and be professional I want to see a good performance we've heard crap all night like I will never begrudge someone that but I think that people do fear like having if you're getting up there for every other song yeah but if you're going against your will like oh I guess and then you nail it come on honey you got to show off your skills I it's I'm always like God if I had Anya's voice, I would be doing karaoke every fucking night, just for myself, you know?

Like, just to hear what I'm capable of. It's wild to me that Noah sits there and like, knows how to play guitar really, really well. It just like, doesn't. Like, it's crazy to me when people have like, a talent that they work so hard to get, and then they just let it, they don't do the thing with it. You do it for you, that's because you're a three,

you don't get it. You just do it for you. It's like meditative and calming, and you get the self satisfaction. Yeah, exactly. But even for yourself, but I guess you're right. Like I was practicing guitar yesterday, and I was just really struggling with it,

because I'm like, I can't go live, because it'm like, I can't go live because I have it's it's too my if someone will screen record it, it'll end up on something. It's too embarrassing. So I can't go live anymore. So there's my old my old way of practicing just like besties watching is just done. And then I was like, this sucks. I don't even what am I doing this for the dogs don't give a shit. And then I heard Chris like kind of, he was cleaning the apartment and I was just in my room with the door shut.

And I was like, I'm just gonna perform for Chris. He doesn't even know it, but he's just gonna have to, I want, my goal is to have him go like, wow, she's getting better. And I imagined him in the next room being like, wait, Nikki's actually really improving at this. That's the only way I got through the practice session. If he would have been there,

I would have just put down my guitar and taken a nap. Are you the same way Sean, you're three, you have to like do stuff in front of people. Always, like honestly, me being alone is just not working. You're never alone though, right? You wake up your son sometimes just to have an audience. Yeah, a little bit. I need the reaction.

I need this reaction. I need a reaction. My therapist told me that I equate positive validation with negative validation the same exact way. And I have had to overcome the negative validation part because I would love to shit on people because I was getting the same feeling as I was doing something good. Wait, so you gossiping or being mean

or talking shit about people gives you the same feeling as performing? Because it's connective. It makes people go, yeah, and interested in what you're going to say next. You have some great gossip. It's currency for connection. Yeah. She correctly identified the fact that I will needle my mom to get her to freak out. That is just as good as allowed.

Oh, wow. That's interesting. I do relate to that of like if just needing, I don't know, not with my family as much, but definitely and not, I don't know, that's why I sent you both I think, separately, the Sam Harris podcast that was the most recent one. the Sam Harris podcast that was the most recent one. Oh, yeah. I got, I think it's the second most recent. I'm imagining you sent it to Sean and I both for different reasons. Um, you know, I want, let me think about that for a second because it was really just about, um, it was pretty much a pitch for his meditation app, which he does, he makes money off of,

but he's really just doing it for the betterment of the world, I do believe that. And so, it was a podcast about why it's important to meditate, especially in this time, kind of given what's going on, and the fires and politics and everything. And then it, then he played a kind of meditation, kind of just talk that I thought was like really interesting and Just reminded me of why I need to start meditating again, and I thought oh, you know what like these yeah I think Brian I pitched it to you because I feel like it's the one modality. I haven't heard you try yet like meditating Yeah, like in terms of like all of your kind of psychosomatic stuff like I did

I've never I'm sure you have but I hadn't heard you try a meditation practice. I've tried it, but not with like the exclusive goal of solving my problems. I used to do it just like, because I thought it was supposed to be good for you. Yeah. Well, I think it could actually solve your problem. Isn't there another Harris, Dan Harris? Dan Harris, he does, he's like the 15% happier. Yeah, so I read 15% happier back.

I don't know if it was 10 years ago. And I used his app and I started doing that back in the day. And then Sam Harris came along and confused the hell out of me. And then I got so upset that I stopped meditating altogether. Yeah, this is why you need to meditate. Like you have to separate the Harris's. And I think I said it to Sean because I thought that Sean just is, I think it would wake up something in Sean's head that he didn't, I don't even know that Sean has even gotten

close, like I think for my version of what Sean, you probably have never even attempted meditation if I would guess. And it's something that you're like, I want to, but I wouldn't. And then I thought it might sell it on you. I want to so bad. And every time I've tried, I've just talked shit about it in my head. And then listening to Sam Harris break that down and be like, he basically was telling me that I'm not special. We all do this when we're meditating. Yes, that was like a really, I needed to hear that because every time I've ever talked to somebody about meditation, they're always just like, just kind of like, quiet

the voice in your head. And I'm like, No, I like it better when the guy does. I'm not special. Shit, we all Yeah. And that your voice is that's meditating is like being like, this is dumb. What am I doing? And then you go, Oh, wait, I'm shit. We all yeah and that your voice is that's meditating is like being like this is dumb What am I doing? And then you go? Oh wait, I'm meditating and then you go back to the breath for literally two seconds and then you go Oh, this is dumb again and then it's just like that I always remember from my TM class and I won't share anything else because it's super secret but The the part that really makes your brain go to like this deeper level is the moment you go. I'm meditating

Let me go back to the breath and that can literally last two seconds really makes your brain go to this deeper level is the moment you go, I'm meditating, let me go back to the breath. And that can literally last two seconds, but they used to draw an example of a diver. You know when you would squeeze those two liters, remember we made those in fourth grade, you squeeze a two liter bottle of soda and there's a little diver that goes down?

Do you remember that? I can imagine it. When you squeeze it, the pressure would make it go down. I never made one, but I know you're talking about that. I never made one, but I- You know what about that. I never made one, but I- You know what I'm saying. Yeah. You've painted a great picture.

Yeah. So when you squeeze it, the diver goes down automatically. And that's what they gave an example of is like, that's your mind going down. Like when you go, oh, I'm meditating, back to the breath, it goes down and then you get into the subconscious and it just gets the grime out of your brain. And anyway, I'm like back on the track. I meditated today and I would say out of the 20 minutes I

sat there in silence trying to say my mantra because I'm doing TM right now instead of breath meditation. But it's the same thing. Like you're just focusing on something that's repetitive. I probably was focused on the mantra for like 30 seconds of the 20 minutes, but that is still meditating. That is what meditating is. Don't get it in your head that meditating is like sitting there with no thoughts. It is constant thoughts. And I was able to just like think about some stuff for the day and like kind of go over my, and like you just, when do you ever sit alone with your thoughts and and aren't

looking at us like when do you just sit alone with your thoughts and nothing else literally at the dentist the reason why i don't i think i don't meditate because i do my dnrs rounds which is like you are you are sitting in a dark room and you do wind up thinking about things and that's like you're supposed to go to a different, like more positive place, but so that's why I haven't really engaged in it. But I mean, it's something that I could try. One thing I really liked about what you sent me was this concept of the voice in your head that's with you

and that talks to you all day. That's following you around like an incessant toddler. Like a, it's like this maniac. Yeah, maniac. Like a maniac is following you into every room of your house and telling you how shitty you are 24 seven. What would you do if that was happening? That's, that was such a great way of describing

your inner monologue of like the shit talking that goes on. Like you would just be like, shut the fuck, like you want to get away from it, but like we don't, we don't detach that voice from ourselves. That's essentially what meditating is, is finding a way to take the thoughts and not make them who you are. They're just these things that are thrust on you,

like the rain falling. The rain isn't you, because it hits your head. The rain is just something coming from another place. If you are able to look at your thoughts, like rain droplets, and just be like, ah, kind of block them, or just see them and go, huh, that's not me. I'm not the rain. It's just a thing that's on me. Then you are able to navigate all of like all of the bullshit and focus on things that matter more.

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I saw you post about this. It was so cool. It was so great. It was packed. It was at the Egyptian theater in Hollywood. Oh, that is, wait, it's huge, right? The Egyptian theater is the huge one. Yeah, it's gigantic.

It's like very old. And it was like in celebration because it was David Lynch's favorite movie and we took Nolan to see it. And it was like, it was like in celebration because it was David Lynch's favorite movie and we took Nolan to see it and it was like it was amazing and it honestly unlocks so much in my head in terms of storytelling. The Wizard of Oz is a perfect movie. There's no fat, there's no tension.

It is just a sprint the entire time. Every scene is iconic to the point where like you know exactly what's going to happen but they never, they're like the big build up to like the battle between Dorothy and the wicked witch is 25 seconds long. There's no like marveling it up of like eight minutes of like picking sides. It just happens and you're okay with it and it moves on to the next thing. It's just always sprinting and it's just, there's no fat. It's incredible. I think I really have an aversion to it for some reason because I think I saw it at a

young age and I was scared of those monkeys. And I just was scared of any kind of scariness in a movie or any kind of like darkness in a movie. I, I, Pinocchio, I was screaming, crying when the whale showed up. I don't even know. I will not revisit Pinocchio too for that Pinocchio Pinocchio for the same reason, but I guess I got to watch the Wizard of Oz again. I it's, if, if it's like a lesson in, in moviemaking and storytelling, I'm trying to, you know, it's, you're not wasting your time watching things. If you are someone that wants to create things, consuming the things you want to create is actually work. And I remember when I was watching some video about writing a song when I was like, God, I just

want to write one song. This guy was like, you don't need to feel like a novice. You've lit, if you've listened to music your whole life, you've been like preparing for this moment. You don't need to be like, I don't know what I'm doing. So like when I'm watching things, man, it's so, it's so inspiring to consume TV shows that are good. That's why I'm like trying to watch good stuff and not just like crap because man, I love Gordon Ramsay. I love Hell's Kitchen.

I fucking or kitchen nightmares. I love watching a business struggling. A guy comes in yells at some people. There's a brother and a son and the family's estranged and then they hug and cry over a grill. It's like I fucking love it. But I realized that we went back and I was like, Chris, let's go back and watch last season. I don't think we finished it. And I pick up one that we haven't seen and we're watching it. And Chris is like, we saw this. And I'm like, we did. And I'm like, I'm, it's all completely new to me.

And I go, oh my God, it's trash. It goes in one ear and out the other. I've seen this already kind of recently. And I can't keep watching these things that aren't giving me sustenance. It's like eating a blow pop for lunch. Like that's not going to fill me up. It's delicious. And I get to chew on it a little bit

and I get this little stick that I get to gnaw on. But essentially it's not giving me anything good. So I have to force myself to watch things that are maybe a little bit more tedious, not as exciting. But I'm now, Chris and I are like, because we want to write a movie and make a movie, we're like doing every night we watch a movie. And that's like our new thing, which sounds like it's honestly work. I have to be honest because this is

the life we're living in. The government even agrees with you because you could write off all those movie purchases that you're, if you're renting it. Yeah, you're right. I always think about this because when I was in my early thirties, I was like, what if I just go back to school and go to like film school? And then I listened to this interview or read this interview with Paul Thomas Anderson, who's like one of my favorite directors. And he said he went to film school for two weeks and he realized that they

weren't, they were focusing so much on stuff that he did not care about. But he was like, I've seen most of this and I could just watch every movie and just learn what to do from them. And that's what he did. And he's become like the greatest director of his entire generation. And with YouTube now, you don't, you really don't need to go to school for almost any reason. No, you can learn anything you want from the experts. The masterclass, Martin Scorsese teaches a masterclass and it tells you everything you

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It's great. Yeah. Not an ad. Okay. I want to do those. But this week, but I'm just going back and watching things that I've already seen. I watched Friends with Money, which is on Netflix, I think. It's Jennifer Aniston and Francis McDormand

and Joan Cusack, and they're all friends and they're all rich, and then Jennifer Aniston's the poor one, and it's just a good movie with good dialogue, good relationships. I think I love seeing Jennifer Aniston as like a poor person. I love the good girl. I think that's fun. I w I think that's what I want to do for a movie.

I want to play like someone, not poor, but like someone who's just like works at a cash register, like I think. Like imagining, cause I'm for awhile. I was like, I gotta play me. So it's gotta be someone that's's like doing a like moving and shaking and like doing a job that is like requires a lot of energy and skill and talent and all this and it's like but I could have just not done those things and I'd still be the same person what if I was the person that didn't discover stand-up comedy I wouldn't

become an actress I wasn't good enough I wouldn't have found some other path I would have just gone the corporate route. Like what happens if my best person who I am ends up in those places? And I think that's kind of what I see Jennifer Aniston do. It's like she is herself, but she's just, it's like as if she was living a different life. And that to me is really interesting.

It's so much more interesting. I mean, I feel like everything about Hollywood, like obviously when you're sitting down to write, you're like, what do I know about? You always kind of tend to go to that. But like when you watch like those romantic comedies, very specifically from like the 90s and early 2000s, everyone's job is like so, it's like,

I'm an editor of a magazine. Like I'm a high powered PR person. Like I'm a corporate lawyer. Like it's like, I'm an editor of a magazine. Like I'm a high powered PR person. Like I'm a corporate lawyer. Like it's so weird. Like it's just like they went through a list of jobs and they're like, oh, I could have done that. Like that's what I went to school for. And generally you don't get into the minutia

of the job anyways. Like you don't have to know like how to be a corporate lawyer in order to write it into a script because they're not gonna have a lot of corporate law scenes probably. Because of what women want, when Helen Hunt, who I thought I kind of looked like, and was like, maybe that's the woman I'm gonna turn into,

I wanted to be at an ad agency and I wanted to wear nude power suits with like a pencil skirt and give presentations on boards and be carrying around a briefcase and have a walk-up apartment. Like, you know, you just like, but you're right. So what is the deal now, Sean, so you don't need to pick a job that you know

you can just pick like anything? You can pick anything. I feel like there's a whole new way of doing things, especially because everything is filmed in Bulgaria, that you could just kind of. But I do think like, you know, like the, the director, Sean Baker with like, he's exclusively focuses on like sex work and stuff like that has really opened up every job is just now you could do anything.

Okay. You can also no longer have to be a bakery owner. Why? Right. A great way to do it is this is something you're already really good at, is if there's a job that you're just like interested in portraying in a script, just go on Reddit and find those people on Reddit and just dig into the world for like a week and then you'll have enough information to be able to write that character.

That's a really good idea. Yeah. Great idea. Yeah. Okay. That's, that's, I'll maybe do that. I also watched the final thought I watched. I can't recommend enough sidewalks of New York.

It's amazing. That is I think it's on Paramount Plus for a couple more days. You should really watch it. But we watched. Oh, last night was the football game. Yeah, we were remiss to not mention that the AFC and NFC championships happened and we are now facing in two weeks the probably two most hated teams in all of NFL facing off against each other in the Superbowl. How do you guys feel about those wins yesterday and what was your experience watching those games? I was rooting so hard for the Bills. I've never rooted for anything more. When they lost, I genuinely, I felt it as if I was

like a lifelong Bills fan. Yeah, yeah. Which is not hard to imagine. It's like being a Mets fan. Yeah. Well, yeah, that was a good game though. I mean, it felt like things could have gone in a different direction till the last couple of minutes.

Right? Yeah, it was a good game. And then the refs, I feel like it just felt like the refs were wanted the chiefs to win. Even though I know that there's not some conspiracy theory. Wouldn't they? Like the NFL wants the chiefs to be in the Super Bowl. Why wouldn't the NFL want the chiefs to be in the Super Bowl. The NFL wants the chiefs to go to the Super Bowl.

Yeah. What if there it's there's there's nothing conspiratorial about this. You look at a biz. It's a business. And one of the businesses is set to, you know, is set to set a record and make history. And also Taylor Swift might be there. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, so that's what you're ready. Wouldn't you want, they are actually a great team, obviously that too, but like, it's, you can feel the pull of the universe that is the NFL wanting the Chiefs to go all the way. Yeah. Why wouldn't you?

It's like they're on every fucking commercial. You don't see any Eagles players on commercial. You don't see any, you don't see. Sequon was in one. Okay fine, maybe Sequon possibly, but you don't see Bills, I don't see Josh Allen on a single commercial. Not unless you're in a local Buffalo area.

That's what I'm saying, national commercials, I don't see any, what, challengers, is that the commanders? I don't see them, do you? No. I'm really asking. No. I think you will. Jayden Daniels seems like he's kind of a- Yes, but why wouldn't you want the biggest stars in the country and the world

who are on every other commercial to then go the next step and play the Super Bowl? Of course you would want it. And there were a couple of plays, like a couple of key plays that the refs get to decide like where the ball is placed at the end of the play. And there was like, I would say two or three plays where it felt like every single time the refs just placed the Bill's ball just short of the first down line. When it was like, I think that was a first down and it's like, no,

it was just short. And two of those when it was like, I think that was a first down. And it's like, no, it was just short. And two of those times it resulted in a turnover. I'm sorry, but aren't these things exact? Aren't these things objective? There were a couple of times even the announcers were like, oh yeah, the Phantom flag that was picked up. The interception. Oh, there was a flag and then it was gone.

The bill of interception. Yeah, they were even talking about it and then they were like, oh, actually I don't think it was thrown. Oh, the announcers were like, oh, let's not. It was like when my parents don't talk about our dog that we gave away. It's like, like, let's just not mention this thing anymore. It's like we all knew that we had a flag, right?

We all saw it. And then there was no mention. Yeah, it was really there was the interception at the end that they didn't review that the ball clearly to me hit the ground. And so it would have been like a non catch. They called it a catch. I'm sorry. Why don't they go back and watch that? They kind of did. And then they said, oh, it's confirmed. And no, but there was one where they did review the footage. And I guess I was trying to understand it. So they, the refs called the play and then there wasn't enough

evidence to overturn the call but had the one ref who had been on the other side of the line seen it, he would have said it was, it was like because one ref called it, they couldn't overturn it. But if the other ref would have just called it, they would have not been able to overturn that if it was on the other way.

So that, yeah, that exact thing happened. That happens in games all the time but it just felt like, they would have not been able to overturn that on the other way. So that, yeah, that, that exact thing happened. That happens in games all the time, but it just felt like, man, it was happening. Why isn't there a camera that can see centered right over the line and see why aren't there cameras in every single yard line? I mean, I guess one day there will be, but for now, it's just the- How could there not be now? What about that little one that's always flying through the air with the little wires? Why isn't that just like always tracing the ball? Why isn't it connected to a feeler on the ball? One that's always flying through the air with the little wires.

Why is that just like always tracing the ball? Why isn't it connected to a field or on the ball? The shots of Taylor Swift in the box. But literally, why don't they have a motion thing on a camera? One of the cameras that goes on the field and just goes, what are your all around on the wires? Why isn't that motion censored to the ball? And so it's always hovering above the ball.

I don't think that's as easy as you're saying it is. But also would it not help? Because sometimes I watch the replays literally six times and I do not know where the ball is and I cannot tell where it is. There's too many people on top of it and you just don't know, how do you know? During the Super Bowl,

they do have almost that many cameras. So many cameras in fact, that you can do a full 360 of any play without it seeming like there was a break. You'll see that in the Super Bowl, but they can only afford that for like the Super Bowl. Well I'm helping for the guy that was crying on the bench. I like that guy. Chris Jones. Yeah, I like seeing tears. You know I'm happy to see them go a third time and possibly get three in a row. It's fun. I'm sad for my friend Sean. Thank you to the bestie who wrote me to check in

on my friend Sean, who's happiness and livelihood depend on the Bills progressing. He's all right. Not Sean O'Connor, different Sean. Rest in peace. Yeah, my other friend Sean. Sean O. Little did I know, you were also as dependent on this.

Yeah. Bills win. But yeah, I think it's, I'm going to the Super Bowl. It's going to be fun. Obviously, I'm fucking excited that I get to go to a thing and Taylor's going to be in the stadium and it's going to be really fun. The energy is just exciting. I'm happy about it. They all looked happy, you know? Yeah. And I'm happy for Randy Mahomes, who, you know, we're friends on Instagram. So I'm happy for Patrick Mahomes' mom. I think she's a sweetheart. I like her a lot. Shout out. I'm happy for Saquon. I think, I mean, I, there's no,

like the fan base of the Eagles is one of the most notoriously hated fan bases in all of sports. And the Chiefs are hated because they just win all the time. So like, it's like being, it's like being the Patriots in the early 2000s. It's not fair. It's like, just because someone wins all the time, why do we gotta take away things from people who are winning? Like we want someone else to have a shot at it. But when they weren't winning, we loved them. It's like nothing changed.

When they first came back and they were, and they were like facing off against Tom Brady and dethroning that dynasty, we were all rooting for the Chief. We loved it, but nothing's changed since then. They're the same people. What's interesting about the Super Bowl coming up is that Andy Reid is the coach of the Chiefs now. He was the long-term coach of the Eagles too. He brought the Eagles to the Super Bowl multiple times. And we've got the Kelsey brothers. Kelsey brothers connection. I'm sure Jason Kelsey's pissed off. I just think it's so crazy that Tom Brady did something that no one else has ever done

in the entire run of football. And then Pat Mahomes is like close, like right after he retired is about to do something that Tom never did. I mean, like there's like a real chance that like Pat Mahomes is going to have thrown him as like the greatest of all time. Right after he gets crowned the greatest of all time. Yeah, like. And also while that happens, guess who is going to have to announce it because it's going to be on Fox. The Superbowl is on Fox.

Whoa. Tom Brady is going to be the announcer saying, wow, I guess I'm not the best anymore. Is this really like, is this what people think? Like you guys as football fans are like, this is seriously if he wins this one, he's going to dethrone Brady. I mean, he'd have to win seven rings. That would be the. And how many does he have now?

Four? It'll be four? Three. He has three right now, but then it'll be four? It'll be four, yeah. And he's still like so young, like all things considered. Yeah, no, he has plenty of time. all things considered. Yeah. It's the equivalent of is like if Michael Jordan retired and then the next year LeBron showed up. Why? Yeah. There's always going to be someone that's next. But the

thing is people say that Tom Brady, people say that Patrick Mahomes is young, but if you recall Tom Brady's career, he had success early with the 2000, his first year being the starter. And then the next couple of years, they won this one like three times. And then there was a long, like almost 10 year gap where he didn't win another ring. And then he finally came back and won a couple. And then we're getting with the bus. That's what you got to do. That's the business. You got to be on top and then you got to go away. Then you got to reinvent yourself and come back and then you got to be a legend. And then like it's this, this just shows me that like, yeah, I was like, oh, we all just

are not excited about the cheese because we're like tired of seeing them win. It's like, it's that's what makes me nervous about winning so much recently in my life is like, I'm going to have to go away and then people are going to root against me. It's inevitable. There's no way to avoid it. It is the human condition that we don't like to see things on top for too long. For too long, yeah. That's why you got to lay in the cut.

You got to go in the dip. That's why I'm staying in St. Louis. But you're still on top for a while. I mean, like with the Golden Globes, for example, as we've seen with Tina and Amy, you have several years, I think, of- Even my friend Kirsten this week was like, oh, Nikki, I went to go visit Kirsten for her birthday. I just flew to Kansas City for one day and or like for five hours to visit, surprise

her for her birthday. And we were talking to her mom about her mom was there at lunch and about her mom listens to the podcast. And she's like, people always ask me, was Nikki funny growing up? And I just tell them, no, she was she was so serious. She didn't impression of me. And my arms are just crossed. And I'm just like she was so serious. She didn't impress it of me and my arms are just crossed and I'm just like looking pissed off. She was like, this was Nikki all like as a child, just looking suspicious around, bored, suspicious and like glaring.

And I was collecting data is what I was doing. But that is true. And then she said that, what was my point going to be about staying on top? Nope. First. Someone always replaces you. Someone always replaces you.

You gotta lay in the cut. Kirsten said, no, God damn it. That. The condition of being on top. And your mom was saying you're serious when you're young. Yeah, I forget it now. I forgot what my whole fucking point was gonna be. But that, yeah, but yeah, all I got was that

she stood up to do impression of me and I was like, no, I don't wanna see this. And then she told me I wasn't funny and I was just like, I don't wanna hear any of this. But then I was just like, and then Kirsten knows that I get like really embarrassed when people do impression of me. And she also knows that like,

I don't wanna hear that I wasn't funny growing. It doesn't matter what I am now. Like you don't want to hear like that. None of us saw this coming No offense mama flow, but it's you know, no one wants to hear that But um, but I'm like used to it now because I'm realizing like I just wasn't I was studying people I wasn't like acting I was the clown. I'm growing up. I was more like the observer. The clown never wins in the end. The class clown, whoever gets voted class clown in your high school is not going to be a comedian. Really? Yes.

I came in second place in high school and I was so pissed at the time. And now he's just like, he works at Six Flags Great Adventure. Exactly. I won, I'm the class clown. That's right. I'm the same way. I didn't win class clown either. There was someone else who was class

clown and said, I got most changed since middle school and someone else won class clown because he would fart in his hand and put in people's faces. And I'm like, well, that's good. I had class clown in eighth grade, but then in high school, I got most changed. Whoa. Wow. We're very similar folks. Most changed? I don't even remember that superlative. Most changed since middle school. It usually went to somebody who lost a drastic amount of weight. Oh, gotcha.

That happened to me too. I had a huge growth spurt. I was in middle school, to quote John Mulaney's joke, I looked like a little Asian boy and I would hold a trumpet and I had a mushroom cut, and little round glasses. And then when I was in high school, I legitimately looked like I had a goatee in sideburns, and I looked like I was in Limp Bizkit or something.

Wow. Yeah. We gotta see these pictures. I don't think I've ever seen you as a young boy. Yeah, I was a young little boy. Did you dress differently? There's just this picture of me at my dad's house where it was during a concert, like the winter concert.

So I'm standing there with a white button down shirt. I'm pretty tubby. I've got these mushroom cut and round glasses and I'm holding a trumpet case. And I do look like I just came from a different country. I'm trying to figure out how America works. Could you play a trumpet now if I gave you one? Would you be able to make a sound?

Trumpet is tough because you have to have like the aperture needs to be where you have that your lips need to be strong in order to be able to like even blow into it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like having calluses. Yeah, exactly. But I could probably blow into it and play like a scale. Oh, wow.

All right, I'm impressed. Did you play an instrument, Sean? And then we'll go. I played bass, But I've never- Really? Yeah. I played bass guitar in the worst band New Jersey's ever seen. Wait, how many years? Junior and senior year. So two years.

So you could do it again. You know some bass licks. I know some bass licks, but I could get back into it, I think. Wow. What kind of music was it? Like emo music. We were in a band called One Morning After. You'll never guess how morning was spelled. Oh my god.

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