The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #75 Let's Underthink It

Episode Date: July 29, 2021

Between you and Nikki, success all comes down to putting in the hours. Andrew says goodbye to his girlfriend but not before introducing her to his family. Nikki wants besties and Andrew to ask for wha...t they want, especially when they are paying for goods and services. You Heard it Here First, hygiene habits, songs that help us connect and the anxiety guys have when they ghost girls. They play Esther Perel's new card game Where Should We Begin and share stories about what they make a big deal about. In the Final Thought Nikki reflects on competitiveness and achievement. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:01 podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's Nikki. Oh, isn't that lovely? We just recorded that at breakfast with all my best gals here in Tulum, Mexico. They're big fans of the show. And so they've been singing it all weekend. And I got to say a song with my name in it. It's a double edged sword. It like feels good, but it also feels ridiculous. And but it was so fun. Noah came down to breakfast. After she had left to prep for the podcast, I was like, I'll be up in 10 minutes. We were finishing a conversation about anxiety and depression and finding and talent and all these things. Just trying to figure out our lives. And then Noah came down with all her equipment and was like, can I get you guys to record the intro?
Starting point is 00:04:11 And it was so fun to do and uh what a great little memory it's the last day here in my vacation uh on my vacation in tulum uh it has been yesterday was so fun we went to the pool again we got covid tested we uh what else did we do we went to dinner dinner. We, I don't know. We're just like relaxing. There's no activities. There's no, like, I know that we're supposed to go see some marshes or something with the bioluminescence, but we're just hanging and talking. It's so fun. Noah, we've played the game on the show before, but the new game from a sex therapist, author, many other titles probably. Like, you know, Dr. Esther Perel created a game called
Starting point is 00:04:50 Where Should We Begin, right? And we played it on the show before and we were like yesterday picking cards and I really was like, I don't know if this game is going to bring out the best stories.
Starting point is 00:05:02 We were all at a pool, like at a fun festive pool where the vibe vibe is like you know vacation pool and um one person cried one person revealed something never like everyone was revealing things they've never revealed before it was a really good game if you i really recommend it where should we begin it's just a question game and um it's kind of like cards uh cards of humanity whatever the hell uh that thing is but it's it's that simple but it just generates I just love good deep conversation and people being vulnerable and sharing things that they don't normally talk about and that's just what this vacation has all been about and it's funny because I know all of my
Starting point is 00:05:45 friends deepest things or like most of them you know like their stuff and they're slowly like revealing things like I'm just like you guys have this in like there's things that are connecting where I'm like I know this one person struggles with this type of anxiety disorder and I know someone else does but they're both hiding it and I'm like when are they gonna talk about it because then they're gonna go like I do that too but I can't go like I'm trying to like set my friends up it's like oh it's almost like um yeah setting someone up like I know you'd love this guy and you should go on a blind date but it's more for like um OCD behaviors with my friends I'm like you guys both do this weird, quote unquote, weird thing.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah, it's been really fun. I woke up this morning really congested. And whenever I go for like doctor's tests, I always get back that like you have a lot of inflammation, which never sounds good or feels good. But I felt very inflamed this morning. Just my tongue has like a sore on it, which yet you'd think i'd be drinking monster energy drink that's not the case it's from hitting my tooth because my tongue is swollen because i ate so much baba ghanoush last night it's my favorite food baba ghanoush is made with eggplant and i also ate a lot of tomatoes so there's a type of vegetable or whatever called nightshades white potatoes tomatoes eggplant bell chilies, garden huckleberries.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah, I just was eating so many garden huckleberries last night. And goji berries. And I'm looking up nightshade allergy, toxic chemicals within the plant which protect it from molds and pests. And that's what I'm, I'm reacting to the alkaloids.
Starting point is 00:07:24 And yeah, hives and skin rashes. Don't have that itchiness. Nope. Nausea. Nope. Vomiting. Nope. Excessive mucus production.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Hell yes. Achy muscles and joints. I mean, I thought I had COVID last night because I was feeling so bad. And inflammation. And my tongue swolled up. And it sucks because it's so ironic. That is literally my favorite food and um i can't have it anymore and i just felt like shit this morning but noah busted out some
Starting point is 00:07:50 leaves she's like i think it's an anti-inflammatory and i was like oh yeah i've heard that before and um yeah boom i'm done i feel so much better now still a little uh congested tomorrow i'm i'm it's so wild being here on vacation because I haven't been sleeping great like usually on vacate when I have time off from work where I'm really not working I like to like sleep in but I'm living with someone who is a rooster apparently and Kirsten is in my we're roommates right now and she is used to waking up at 5 a.m to start training people and so I just uh I've been waking up early and we've you know we've been getting up early doing 8 30 breakfast that's not Nikki on vacation but I'm with a group I want to get as much out of it as I can and uh I
Starting point is 00:08:37 feel I feel exhausted at the end of this trip even though but in a good way because I've just been talking a lot and staying up uh and not sleeping enough eating so well but tomorrow i go to san antonio for a my kickoff to my tour on friday night and um i think tickets are probably still i don't check numbers it's one of my flaws is like i don't look into details of things at all and um because I'm too scared that no tickets will be sold and so I'd rather not know um but that's not the case I think they're selling very well I tomorrow when I land in San Antonio I'm meeting Anya and Matt her boyfriend Matt Pond PA singer-songwriter my tour manager my assistant Jen also my tour manager uh Andrew and Gleb Sovchenko my dance partner from Dancing with the Stars.
Starting point is 00:09:26 He is going to choreograph a new dance to close out our show for us. We've been doing one that Sarah Lena, my friend, had choreographed a couple years ago. And we need to move on from that and do a new one. And Gleb keeps writing me, like, what kind of dance do you want to do? And I'm like, Gleb, we aren't good dancers. Make it silly. Make it fun. I just want you to be there.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I want to hang out. And I want to be in a practice space with you again and just have fun. And, uh, it's, it's going to be very fun. It's, it's, that's why I'm doing it. Like, I don't really think we need a dance to close out the show, but it's just fun. And we were just talking about that at lunch or at breakfast about, know how you know a couple of the girls here actresses that have uh one one just started acting she was models and she was 13 now she's like a couple years ago she's gotten into acting and another like carlisle has been doing stand-up and acting for a while and they're both like kind of lamenting about the business and we're just talking about you know how so much of things is luck and how do you even i you know with carlisle i was like do you even like acting she's like well i'd never gotten to do it so i don't know which is hilarious
Starting point is 00:10:34 but uh i was like you gotta find stuff hopefully if you're lucky and not everyone has this luxury they you know you because everyone was always like Nick you work so hard and I've just never been able to let that sink in and I know why it's because my work doesn't feel like work because I enjoy it and for me work equals dread and like getting through something and being like done like shutting my biology book and being like done homework now I can watch Dawson's Creek you know like there's no reward there's no you don't get to say you worked unless you hated it and that's just not true and you know I was playing guitar yesterday and Sarah Lena and I kind of
Starting point is 00:11:14 started playing guitar at the same time last year we picked it up at the same time and we're like yeah let's get good at it and I just practice more and she's like you're so good oh my god you're so good and I was like there's no natural talent going on here there's no honestly Sarah Lena it's just I play sometimes four hours a day and I play every day and I bring it with me on the road I don't skip a day because I'm obsessed and I like it and so just find a way to like it stop you know for me that's not taking guitar lessons and learning scales I would not stick with that and I'm probably not going to be a good enough guitarist because of it but that's just not that's not going to happen for me I just learn songs I want to learn to feel my
Starting point is 00:11:54 feelings and that's the way I'm learning guitar and it's definitely a slower process but at least I'm enjoying the work even though it's like shittier work um I'm like you just need to find a way to enjoy the work because it all comes down to hours how many hours you put into something that is why I do this podcast four days a week I mean it's also so that I feel like I work every day even though it doesn't feel like work because I love it but I also recognize that if I want to be the best at something, I just know it's all about ours. Anyone that you look at, you can't, you really, I recommend this book, The Talent Code,
Starting point is 00:12:31 because it talks about how talent is not what you think it is. Like people are born with it. Beyonce is one of their like chapters of like everyone thinks Beyonce was just born dancing and beautiful and confident and had that voice. And yes, she has probably musical blood.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Her family probably has generations of being musical. And some people are predisposed. But then they talked about Beyonce was in a boot camp since she was very young like we're talking single digit kid working hours and hours and hours a day that's why gymnasts these little gymnasts and athletes when you want to be an Olympic athlete you don't have a childhood you just train all day like Kirsten used to be a really good gymnast still could be and when she her and I started gymnastics classes, I did not like it as much.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I also wasn't naturally good at it. So I was just like, fuck this. She was, she stayed with it. She started doing gymnastics. Suddenly my best friend couldn't hang out after school, three hours of practice every single day.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And it's just like, that's because the adults running USA gymnastics know that they have to turn. There's no other way to get good at gymnastics. You can't do one hour a day tumbling or one, one class a week. They know that if we're going to make this girl or any of these girls an Olympian by before she starts her period, which is when she'll start.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Like Kirsten said that the second she started her period, like a month later she quit gymnastics cause she was like a woman and she was just like too voluptuous for the like vault and um yeah they know like adults that are behind these uh you know boy band the mickey mouse club they're literally in houston in this book the talent code there is a place you go like a farm you go to where you get good at singing and dancing and being a pop star. And Beyonce went to that place. A bunch of other people, I forget. I read the book years ago and you know, I only read a third of it and I was like, I get it. And, um, and you know, Andre Agassi's book, he was like, I, tennis was my life. So these people that you go,
Starting point is 00:14:40 you look at and you just go, God, they're so so good it's just the hours they put in and so I want to be Howard Stern someday so I just realized like I can't be Howard Stern unless I do he was on the radio every day for five hours for like and still you know still most days uh for decades and so I've got I can't do one podcast a. I got to do it four days a week. If this is something that I really want to do. And it is because the older you get, the less you want to tour, the less you want to write material, the more you just want to be and do something that's easy that allows you to have a life where you can indulge in things that actually bring you joy. And so, yeah, I'm setting myself up to have a radio career broadcasting career by just
Starting point is 00:15:26 banking those hours um so yeah if you're feel discouraged ever about someone else's talent and you're like but we started at the same time or this like look at how many hours you put into it it's not the same as that person's and that's the only reason and it's not about putting in those hours and just going like oh I don't want to find a way to make the practice work for you or find a parent that forces you to do it before you have legal authority over yourself and that's how you get good at things essentially Andrew for instance I just gave him as example. I was baffled at how good and, you know, Andrew tells me how good he is at golf every day. And like, well, either tell me like, oh, I hit this and he'll tell me how other people hit and I go, okay, Andrew's good. Like from these stats, I realize Andrew is a good, a very good golfer. Where did this come from? I don't remember him golfing. And it turns out he was golfing all the time before I met him he went through stages of life where he golfed just like this at hours and hours a day for years so there's an explanation for people's talent it's not when you look at yourself and go why can't I be like that it's because they put in more time and you didn't see them put in the time so you just assume they did everything
Starting point is 00:16:39 you did they didn't they didn't they didn't Taylor Swift for me is one of them where I compare myself to her a lot and want to be her. And I'm like, oh my gosh, she's so magical. Like, yes, she was, had a childhood that made, she had parents and like people around her that probably encouraged her to, I mean, my parents encouraged me to read, but she was a voracious reader. She journaled a lot. She was also like a dork that didn't have friends so she would like you know be in her bedroom and journaling she liked it like that was all she was songwriting from the time she was 12 she was playing guitar she like loved it early on and that's why she's Taylor Swift it's like yes some of that is natural and just born with it but you can be born with it and if you don't put in the hours it ain't gonna be nothing so I don't know what I'm trying to say here.
Starting point is 00:17:26 It's just like stop comparing yourself to people that you think you know what they've put into it and you think it's the same as you. The only reason they're better is because they just found a way to put more hours in. And because maybe they have a life that doesn't demand – maybe they were born with money so they don't need to get a day job so they can take that day job time and put more hours. And some of it's just not fair. But if you can find a way to fit in those hours, you're going to get as good as them. And that's the only thing differentiating you from the people that you listen to on the radio or the people that in your business that you go, God, I wish I could do that. I'm just never going to be that because I'm not. It's just it's not it's not.
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Starting point is 00:22:59 Are you taking off soon? Yeah, taking off after this. Ready to hit the road. So long, Chicago. What was your last night with Brenna Light? Like, what's the vibe? You're saying goodbye. When's the next time you're going to see each other?
Starting point is 00:23:11 What are we looking at? The vibe's good. She meant so much to my family. Last night, we did a family dinner with my Aunt Donna, my Uncle Scott, my Aunt Lisa, my cousin Mikey, my cousin Sam. Like, literally, she met, like, eight people, eight people and she killed it handled it like a champ she liked my aunt donna which was surprising because no one does and uh she my aunt like whatever it's a long history but uh she just she just stares you ever talk to someone who
Starting point is 00:23:42 stares through your soul while they talk to you and you're like, what are you, are you looking? Andrew? Yeah. We know. Yeah. I do.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I'm thinking about someone that we know that does that. But so yeah, we know someone that does. Yes. I know exactly what you're talking about where you're just like, and then you will look away and you can feel them still staring at you or you get nervous when you talk cause they're just staring too intensely at you. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:24:04 what I'm saying is not that important like i'm talking about my like that i think i might have eczema on my neck yeah you know like and they'll look at you like you're telling them about like your time overseas feeding starving and you're just literally saying that you got a coffee at starbucks earlier and they're like what yes what was that it's like no i didn't kill your son yeah like get away from me i get stage fright when those people look at me too intensely like i just like i kind of like start mumbling and i just don't know what to say because i'm just like it's too much pressure you're looking at me well it was so she was nice though that like she liked and don like we got in the car she's like
Starting point is 00:24:39 you know i really like i like your aunt donna and i was like and then you were able to like aunt donna through her no i hate her more um no no i like aunt donna she's just she's a lot but um i you know and then uh i played golf yesterday i tied my uncle who i always let beat me not on purpose but just like he's the older guy he's very competitive extremely competitive and he very consistent, and he always beats me in golf. And yesterday I tied him, and I shot a 39 on the front nine. I literally broke 40 for the third time in my life. Yes, congrats. Is this the first time you broke 40 since you've been playing this time in your life?
Starting point is 00:25:18 Congrats. So that felt really good. And so I had a great day yesterday. Played golf, went to dinner could you have beaten him but you did you did you just tie him like is tying to you like as far as you can go i don't did you yeah yeah maybe you did maybe so you could have gotten 38 or 37 look there there was uh there was a ruling on the course where he changed the rule after he fucked up on a hole. And you let it go because he's multi, multi, multi, multi-millionaire.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I mean, that doesn't help my fight. I'm guessing he was paying for the stay out. He bought me a shirt. Did he really? He bought me a shirt after the game. And I was like, all right, you know what? I'm glad we tied because this is a nice Peter Mala What is it?
Starting point is 00:26:09 I don't know it's some golf shirt That's like a really nice quality And then I got stains I got pasta all over it At dinner later so I showed him But anyway I said I love you Are you sad about leaving?
Starting point is 00:26:22 I said I love you this morning Oh I knew it was coming said I love you this morning. Oh, I knew it was coming. Oh, my God. Wait, this morning. How did you do it? I got to get on the podcast. I need material.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I love you. And then, no, we had morning intercourse. And I think we were like getting done. I wasn't inside her. She got a 41 on this course. She was one over par with you always. So she was on top of me and I just was looking at her. During it. No, not during it.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Or during. Okay, so she was on top of you for sex. Yeah, after sex. And we were just cuddling, thinking about me leaving. Why did you have to tell us she was on top of you for sex yeah after sex and we were just cuddling thinking about me leaving why'd you have to tell us she was in top then i don't know if that wasn't the part where she's you said i guess if i was looking down at her i'd see more i'm more aunt donna like where i oh right but it wasn't then that she you told her it was after uh yes it was after sex and then she was on top of me and i just go i love you and she goes i know you do and i love you too and she goes there's been so many times i just wanted to say it and i go actually this is the
Starting point is 00:27:36 first time i felt it so we had a really cute moment it usually happens like that where you're like there's so like you want to say it so many times, and then you stop yourself, but it's just in the air, like you can both feel it. Yeah, and it felt good. It feels good. And yeah, no, I don't know. It was a great trip. I mean, have you said that to anyone?
Starting point is 00:28:00 Just my girlfriend in college. Even your mom? Okay. Did she say it back? Reluctantly. Or maybe to a guy behind me, and I just stood in between them. I just caught it. She just said, I love you, too, and she was talking about the band.
Starting point is 00:28:17 She's like, that's a way I can do it. That's before iPads. What's going on with you? You guys look great. Wait, I want to hear, what your feelings about what's the plan? Everyone here is like, what's Andrew going to do? Are they going to stay together? I go, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Yeah, we're staying together. They'll just see. Take it day by day. When's the next time you'll see each other? I just got to look at the schedule. Yeah. I mean, probably I'd say three weeks from now i would try to make something happen you know yeah hopefully um it's hard yeah i'm not trying to like overthink it uh
Starting point is 00:28:54 but you know we also we're not working like we're working under yeah underthink it i'm under thinking it yeah which i normally under i'm. I'm always under. Except for Pa. You know what I mean? Ha ha ha. Yum yum yum yum. So yeah, I'm not, I just, yeah, I'm worried. Yeah, sure, I'm a little worried. But, you know, she could have moved to a city also that, like, I hate it.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Like, I love it here. Like, I have family here. So, like, I'm just, you know. I could see you ending up in Chicago. Yeah. I mean, it is a great town. It's just so cold in the winter. I'm tired of fucking winters where it's cold.
Starting point is 00:29:31 No. I'm so scared of the cold. I don't think. Unless in five to ten years from now. But I don't see that happen in the car. Yeah, take it day by day. I'm a little bit feeling anxious about just the COVID news. I know,
Starting point is 00:29:46 right. Just becoming more like masks are bad. Like, you know, in our building the other day, it was like master back on Monday. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:53 we have to wear masks in the building and it seems like everyone's kind of backed. It's just scaring me that, you know, there's a tour that I'm doing. There's, uh, there's just,
Starting point is 00:30:03 it's just, I'm a little bit better prepared for a lockdown again because I have a house or a place. But I'm just like, I haven't even been reading the news. I just wrote to Anya.
Starting point is 00:30:15 I was like, because she always knows what's going on. I'm like, will you tell me what you think is going to happen? Even though, like,
Starting point is 00:30:19 what does she know? But she, yeah, she assuaged my fears but also increased them too. I don't know. What do you think? But she, yeah, she assuaged my fears, but also increased them too. I don't know. What do you think? From what I saw, the Delta variant is very contagious, but there are a lot of people
Starting point is 00:30:31 vaccinated. So what could possibly happen is it could be a fast sweep and then unvaccinated people actually get the antibodies and then everybody is pretty much covered because they'll have the antibodies. People will be vaccinated and life will go on. Hopefully. Pray. Right. much covered because they'll have the antibodies people will be vaccinated and life will go on hopefully praying right that being said the tour will probably be canceled and we'll probably just end up laying in the living room with like candles lit and just playing kumbaya all be meant to be regardless of what happens exactly exactly i yeah yeah yeah i think so i'm this yeah this trip is
Starting point is 00:31:03 coming to an end tomorrow. Everyone's already talking about leaving, and I'm just like, can we just not yet? I just hate the last day of a trip. It's almost like the last day of a trip isn't even a real day because everyone's thinking about packing and going home tomorrow and when we're going to do this and just overthinking, and I'm just like, let's just all underthink it. It's all going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:31:22 We don't need to like obsess about okay like oh i gotta pack later it's just like just can we just be easy i know i read a tweet the other day that says uh if you go on vacation always take the when you get home take one day off too which i thought was i think just add one day to whatever you think is the amount of days you want to spend because it just will give you that extra because the last day of vacation does not count almost it's just like the the resort is almost like over you being there they're like they can't even wait they're already like salvating at you leaving and not being i mean we are so ridiculous and none of us are drunk that's the. It's like no one here is drinking.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And so when we are obnoxious, we go to this pool every day. That's one of the sister hotels here. And like yesterday, the first day we went, we were so, we weren't loud. You know how drunk people are loud. We weren't loud. We were just being silly and laughing a lot. And you could just tell these couples on honeymoons fucking hated us. This guy looked at me with such disdain, waited for me to look over at him and was just just and i go i feel like he
Starting point is 00:32:31 might be friends with someone that i've like hurt or something or like i did some bit that offended him like it's felt so personal because it's like sorry that we're reminding you that you your relationship is probably doomed because you're on your honeymoon and you're already bored with each other. And the excitement of getting married and all that stuff that made you feel like this was good, it's all setting in that maybe you don't love her that much. And she's jealous that she is not with her girlfriends and you're sensing that and you're mad at her and so you're sneering at me, you dick. So yesterday we showed up and those same people were there and we were just like, oh, they all hate us so much. Then we went to dinner and then one of the couples walked in to the dinner place. And we were like, we bet they will just turn on a dime once they see us to walk out.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Because we just like are, we're just having fun. We're doing like silly things. We're not trying to be hot. We're not trying, we're being gross. We're being, like're being like i was doing butterfly the other day in the pool and i just felt like ever i felt so annoying doing it because it's just such an aggressive thing but no one was in the pool except us but there's people laying out and i wasn't splashing them but i could just tell they were like pissed off that i was
Starting point is 00:33:38 doing butterfly and then we were pretending to be dogs that fell in the pool saralina does a great impression of a dog that's just like i I don't want to be in the water. The eyes go to the side and the dog paddles and can't pay attention. We're like, it's okay, Bailey. It's okay. Then she got out and just shakes around. We were doing dog impressions. Really, we were acting like children more than
Starting point is 00:33:58 anything, but not even obnoxious children. People resent people having fun. Even I do when I'm on a vacation. I'm projecting projecting i've been on vacations before where my boyfriend and i aren't getting along and i look at girls having fun and i fucking hate them but it's really because i hate that i'm not them well i yeah i you know we were at what's that hotel the roosevelt hotel in la and i remember we did a swim like competition of like swimming freestyle then
Starting point is 00:34:26 backstroke then underwater and who could go the fastest and it's like people looked at us like because they're all good that everyone at the pool is good yeah and we're being you have to be good some would say we're good because we're not caring about anyone else and we're being loud and whatever but we're just having fun like a pool is made to play marco polo like that's what we've been doing our whole life when did we stop marco polo in our life like get over it it's just hearing people laugh loudly and just i mean i get it whenever i'm at like a restaurant and there's a table that's just screaming it's usually though precipitated by drinking and i just know that those people aren't even going to remember the times they're having because they're so drunk and I'm just like this is all
Starting point is 00:35:05 for nothing shut up but when it's or people on a plane that are super drunk that are just loud like you just know a drunk person they get so damn loud the music last night was loud at this place and I was like I'm going to tell them to turn it down and everyone at the table was kind of just like oh please don't that's going to be so weird
Starting point is 00:35:21 the guy couldn't have been nicer about it like it was fine music is too loud in places. This is that kind of place. I go, well, it shouldn't be. People are eating dinner. There's no one dancing. This doesn't need to be this loud. That's kind of the vibe here. It's like, yeah, I know,
Starting point is 00:35:36 but this is a bad business model. People are trying to have... These are all families and people wanting to talk during dinner. It's just so... i don't understand no it's so funny you say that because we went to uh there's a place called viagra triangle or viagra circle or something in chicago where it's literally oh we're old old men and girls with fake tips that are like in their like late 20s whatever and it's just like these old like tan like greasy haired men that all look like you know like snakes in a lamborghini yes and uh which is a new movie
Starting point is 00:36:12 coming out with samuel l jackson and um and they're all just like and then we went into this place called tavern on rush and we go up and there's like seven fucking tables open outside right like and i go hey can we you know come in you know i'm here with a very pretty girl too it's not like i'm adding yeah i look i fit in look at me i just don't yes you belong in my circle you take in a circle wait you take roman or whatever like you take well yeah yeah the other guy well roman's the name of the brand man i can get you some viagra here by the way like over the counter you probably get me horse viagra down there it's it's nuts with i can get you down here so i go up to the maitre d or whatever and i feel bad for these girls because they're being told by their manager like no we
Starting point is 00:37:00 got to keep it exclusive i was like can i get a They're like, we don't have any outside. I'm like, there's fucking 45 tables open. And so we could sit inside. We go inside, and it's like, no, like 4 p.m. And the music's just... And me and Brenna are just looking at each other, and we're like, you want to leave? And we left. And it felt so fucking good to leave.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Because in the past, I would have stayed maybe. People are so nervous to ask people to turn down music or leave a restaurant after they've already brought water. They brought our waters. So what? Even if they brought your drinks, throw down a 20 and get the fuck out of there. Businesses need to know when they're failing their consumer by making it a bad experience and it when you ask someone to turn down the music honestly people are so passive and so scared to speak up for themselves you know they'll have something in their food and they'll just be like
Starting point is 00:37:57 it's okay or they'll so many times i've been at dinner with someone who gets the wrong thing and they don't eat it and i go what's going on they're like they like, they brought me the wrong thing, but I just don't want to be a bother. If you were a waitress and someone said, oh, you brought me the wrong thing, would you take that personally and kill yourself? No, everyone can work with this. You're not a bad person because you got the wrong thing.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Just ask for what you need and absolutely walk out of a movie if it sucks. Within the first 30 minutes, walk out of a movie and ask for your money back. Have you ever walked out of a movie? What's the last movie you walked out of a movie if it sucks. Within the first 30 minutes, walk out of a movie. Have you ever walked out of a movie? No. The guy all the time. What movie? What's the last movie you walked out of?
Starting point is 00:38:29 Horrible Bosses. The first one. And then I haven't gone to see really that many movies since. Did you go by yourself? Who did you go with? Yeah. No, I went with my friend Holly, and we were just so insulted by how...
Starting point is 00:38:43 I was so insulted that these brilliant comedic actors had written a movie that was appealing to such dumb people. Like, just thinking I'm an idiot and having to make jokes so dumb, having to make these characters so exaggerated, I felt insulted. I felt like being talked down to like a child and I was just like, I don't want to...
Starting point is 00:39:02 Nothing about this is funny to me. How long did you give it? I just was like first of all if you have a horrible boss quit your job why not not kill your boss? That's stupid. It was within 30 minutes and I went to the thing and I just was and the guy at the box office didn't make the movie.
Starting point is 00:39:18 It wasn't Jennifer Aniston in the box office. I didn't have to you know like the guy doesn't care he's making minimum wage. He'll give you know, like the guy doesn't care. He's making minimum wage. He'll give you your money back. He doesn't fucking care. So like when you, and with the waitress at a restaurant,
Starting point is 00:39:30 like talk about what you need. Like I, I just, I honestly can't be friends with people after I see them just put their tail between their legs when they hate something and they just put up with it because they're paying for it. It's just so weird to me. With like a bad haircut, I'll tip more for some reason because i like getting treated terrible
Starting point is 00:39:48 i think it's because i've done it before too and i just don't want to do it anymore one time i got a chicken burrito and it was and what happened was i got the wrong order and so i felt bad and so i i changed the order i was like 12 on a vacation with another family and they brought out a chicken burrito and i swear to god God, it was ice cold, the chicken. I ate chicken that was uncooked, too, when I was with Kirsten's family when I was 12, because I was scared of her family. I go, I think this is bad, and it was literally just a raw chicken breast. Oh, I got deathly ill.
Starting point is 00:40:20 No, but I'm not freaked out. Deathly ill. You did? Deathly ill. You got salmonella? Yeah, deathly ill. I was puking all night, and they they left me too, by the way, in the room alone, which I don't even think about.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Whatever. I'm one to do that. I'm one to not complain and just eat it and be like, oh no, I like it anyway. So I'm going to try to not do that anymore. I think that, I'm sure people are listening being like, I'm one of those people, Nikki would hate me. It's like, I am one of those people too. I don't like to complain. I don't like to be do that anymore. I think that like, I'm sure people are listening being like, I'm one of those people, Nikki would hate me. It's like, I am one of those people too.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I don't like to complain. I don't like to be a nuisance. But when you really break it down, the people that you're complaining to, as long as you do it with like, hey, you know, like, I just don't like this. It wasn't what I actually wanted and I'm so sorry. Like, just be nice about it because there are people that complain and they're horrible about it. Anyone that works in the
Starting point is 00:41:03 service industry or retail, you know those people that complain and think they deserve everything. This isn't what I'm telling you to do. A simple box office thing of, hey, I just bought a ticket for horrible bosses. That was – it's horrible, horrible. Like it's – I just didn't like it. And the guy just is like, that's fine. Yeah. You can do it, guys.
Starting point is 00:41:23 You can stand up for yourselves. Especially when you're paying for something. And then if the person tells you, because I've complained at some point, and they go, well, that's just the way it is. And I go, oh my God, you know what? I didn't read the fine print. You're right.
Starting point is 00:41:37 This did say this. And this movie did tell me it was horrible. It's in the name. I should have known. Who likes a boss? I don't need my money back. I don't need my money back. Just be nice about it.
Starting point is 00:41:45 You know what I learned? You're allowed to have opinions and not like things. You're allowed to. Real quick, I think it's like we don't want to – this waiter that we will never see again, that we don't have – like we care about people that we will – it's like on the golf course when some stranger is watching you hit a shot and you hit shitty because you're worried about the stranger that you'll never talk to again his attitude or what he thinks of you your dis his disappointment in you but we value it so much it's weird you do no i'm not alone i'm not alone on this by at all i know you're not but i do not like when i was picking up luigi's poop with some leaves and you saw people watching me from this restaurant window, you ran away because you were so embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:42:30 And I was just like, what is embarrassing about a girl that's not going to leave shit on the ground that forgot a bag? I'm not a bad person because I forgot a poop bag. It happens to everyone. If you're late for a flight and you go and you just, you know, all you would have to do is ask the people in line to get ahead. I've said this before probably, but it bears repeating. Just ask people. And people that give you toot about wanting to cut in line so you can get to your flight in time,
Starting point is 00:42:56 you can just go, have you ever been late for something? If they give you toot, go, have you ever been late for something and would you have liked someone to maybe give you? Everyone's been late. I know, but picking up shit with leaves but you could go you could go oh I was late because I was hung over I'm a piece of shit like they it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:43:12 it doesn't you didn't want to be late like no one wants to be late just people should be kind and so why were you embarrassed for me picking up shit with leaves you don't see it often you look it's a crazy thing to look over but what would those people think of me? What would happen?
Starting point is 00:43:26 I get that. But I'm just trying to wonder where the fear comes from. Maybe I was just embarrassed for you because you just... But why be embarrassed about that? I'm not trying to be antagonistic. I'm really trying to understand what about that. Because I feel almost weird that I was not embarrassed at all by that. Dude, you've gotten dog shit on your hand in front of me and be like,
Starting point is 00:43:41 I got shit on my hand. Like, you just don't care about it. It's just something you're like, oh, I pick it up with leaves. Most likely this shit won't get on me. Will someone think that I'm like, I eat poop if I get dog poop on my hands? I don't know. You seem very chill about it. I just don't understand what people would think.
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Starting point is 00:49:11 My tongue is having the swells. Here we go. Swell it up. Okay. The internet is giving Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis heat after they said on a podcast that they don't believe in bathing their kids or themselves too much. Okay. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:49:24 What? or themselves too much. Okay. Hmm. My friend wrote me yesterday asking me to ask all my girlfriends if we wash our vaginas with soap because she says she doesn't because it stings and she just uses water and she always thought you're just supposed to use water
Starting point is 00:49:37 and I said, yes, I do wash my vagina with soap. I remember it stinging when I was a child in the bath. I hated washing my vagina because my parents would be like, wash everything and I'd be be like it stings but now it doesn't sting to wash my vagina with soap noah do you wash your vagina with soap yeah i do but i use like natural soaps okay but what about here in the where we don't have natural soaps oh i i mean yeah of course
Starting point is 00:50:01 yes i have to otherwise it like. Yes, that makes sense. What about, okay, so they don't bathe their kids. Here's the thing. They won't bathe their kids unless they see dirt. Ashton Kutcher says he washes himself. He'll wash his armpits and his crotch daily, but nothing else ever. Only his armpits. I literally, Ashton and I are the same.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I don't wash my body. I just wash my crotch and my under and my pits and then i shave my legs nearly every day because i'm hooking up so i guess my legs get washed but that's only to shave them but there's no reason to wash your elbow unless it has poop on it because you were picking up some dog shit because you forgot your leaves because it's fall oh no then there'd be a lot of leaves yeah it's winter yeah yeah yeah But yeah, I don't. How many people out there wash their back? I bet you every guy listening right now, if we took a poll, I would say 80% of guys don't wash their back.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Your back has been fine your whole life. I've never washed my back. I've never washed my back in my life. I've never washed. I remember one time. Some people have the back thing. This guy in my writer's. never washed i remember one time some people have the back clean what are you doing some people are fastidious about being clean and i would argue that you're doing like i was talking to someone about how you have your uh toothbrush in the shower on the floor
Starting point is 00:51:19 in the by the drain and they were like oh my god god, the germs. And I go, the germs are not an issue. That is probably cleaner than the one by your sink. It's just not a good look more than anything. That just means you're not taking care of yourself. You don't like your things. But germs-wise, I bet a germologist could come in there and do
Starting point is 00:51:38 one of those agar tests where they rub it on the gel and you see the mold. And I bet it would be less germs because you have water. And they go, but what about all the body stuff that's rubbing on your toothbrush? And it's like, no, it goes down the drain with like, and that's why I feel about washing my hair with shampoo. The shampoo runs down my back. That's enough. I don't need to scrub my, what's happening to my back. If I have calm on my stomach, like sometimes I have sex and it's like or like sexual relations and i get sweaty and like there's just spit and stuff and then i'll really give myself a
Starting point is 00:52:09 scrub but no i'm with ashton and mila on this one and unless you start stinking just pits you can do pits and crotch all of my showers take less than two minutes and then you read the article and it's like kunis is like i didn't have hot water growing up as a child, so I didn't shower very much anyway. And then she's like, I also wash my face twice a day. So it's like it's not as absurd as the headline. You wash your face because you wear makeup and that's dirt and like collect stuff. But who is getting sick from their thigh? But are women washing their face too much? Microscopic.
Starting point is 00:52:42 I believe so. You know what I mean? Yeah. Even if you left makeup on tonight, I think Brenna has a system where it's like 15 different things. And it's like I think you can over maybe do it where your face
Starting point is 00:52:55 is like, this isn't natural. I put on Mine has been that way before but now I'm down to, I wash my face I put on a serum and then I go to bed. In the morning, I wash my face, put on a serum, put on sunscreen, and then that's it. So you have one serum. What's the serum? I'm sure the girls will want to know.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I'm not even going to tell you because it's serious. I'm sorry, Bestie. I don't want to say. Why? I don't want it to go off the market. It took me years and years to find, and I just don't want to It took me years and years to find and I just don't want to let anyone know. Are you worried that it's
Starting point is 00:53:28 going to oversell? I'm sorry. I use it as lube. I use it for everything. Yeah, I do. I worry that it's going to sell out or the price will go up or yeah, I don't know. This is me being not a good person by not letting you know, but I just
Starting point is 00:53:43 don't want to let you know. Oh my God. Not even a hint? I let Brenna know. This is me being not a good person by not letting you know, but I just don't want to let you know. Oh, my God. Not even a hint? I let Brenna know. Oh, that's cool. Maybe she... Brenna got it. Oh. So, man, people are going to be going nuts.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Okay, listen, besties, will you just DM? DM. The thing is, I won't be able to catch up with how many people. Okay, I'll tell you what it is. One time, and you're not going to be able to write me again and go what was it again i get so many messages about what was the book the quit drinking google nikki glazer quit drinking book like we don't need to have a discussion about this but i do understand there's sometimes on podcasts where you hear it and then you don't write it down it's called the ordinary plant squalane okay there's my secret. Y'all can have it because Andrew asked and I am now
Starting point is 00:54:26 you're going to surge the price up and it's going to bug me. So I hope it works for you. The ordinary plant squalane. Not the hemi squalane. The plant squalane. You did a good service. You did a good thing. I know. I'm trying to be more honest.
Starting point is 00:54:42 All of my apprehensions about telling people is that I don't want people to be... Now everyone's going to have good skin. I already have such shitty skin that I need an advantage. Now everyone's going to have this advantage. That's my fear. The thing is, I do have good
Starting point is 00:54:58 skin. It's not from the squalane necessarily. It's from me eating well and not picking up my skin and stuff like that but yes this stuff is great and you can use this i feel i feel i'm really happy you did that people turning i mean i had to people were gonna i would literally stop listening to a podcast that a girl claimed to be my best friend that she wouldn't tell me that fucking eight dollar squalling that oh it's not even expensive in bulk i'm about before this comes out i'm about to order about
Starting point is 00:55:23 1700 of them. So good luck, bitches. I'm just kidding. But yeah, I would get it from, you can get it on Amazon or the ordinary and it's like eight bucks.
Starting point is 00:55:32 It's so cheap and I use it on everything. It's like a, it's just something you could put on underneath your night creams, underneath your moisturizers and it's like,
Starting point is 00:55:42 it's more hydrating than oil and it doesn't have an oily, like it won't, it does kind of sometimes stain things but not as much as an oil underneath your night creams, underneath your moisturizers. And it's more hydrating than oil. And it doesn't have an oily... It does kind of sometimes stain things, but not as much as an oil. And it just goes on really glossy and fresh. And every time anyone's like, oh my God, you look amazing. I'm like, all I have on is a squalene. It makes you look really greasy, but in a good way. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:00 People turning to music in the pandemic showed researchers that the same social brain networks activated when making music are also involved in social processes understanding others empathizing oh shit empathizing and coordinating with others all of these natural what did you just read i mean i are you reading the ingredients to the plant squalene it sounds like you're reading like you're one of those guys that's doing this. It's such a long headline. Noah, we should have talked about this. For an antidepressant. Side effects include... Consult a doctor.
Starting point is 00:56:32 It was like that much information. Oh, I read it wrong. It says music is good. Wait, can I just... So, if you... Making music triggers the same part in your brain that socializing does. Is that what it says? It connects us with others.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Yes. Absolutely. When I watched that songwriting YouTube thing that was like, how to write a song in the TED Talk that it's talking about. Sarah Lena wrote a song because she heard the podcast that I talked about it. She wrote a song called Standing by a Wall. It was like, I don't know, it was good.
Starting point is 00:57:02 But anyway, in the thing they said that songs are stories they're just meant before we were able to write things down and had like lang or you know uh yeah before you could write something down before gutenberg steve gutenberg um the actor and and how he was able to tell stories i meant the printing press but um before we had able to do it songs were able you could memorize them and then share stories through song which is easier than just memorizing something that doesn't have a rhythm to it so yeah it makes sense it's a social thing and it's meant to like warn others
Starting point is 00:57:34 like a swedish producer they do everything oh i look yeah but yeah they're like all story like your favorite your favorite songs are like stories, I would say. Simple stories, yeah. What is your favorite song? Or one of them. Let's just go through. I would say Clay Pigeons by Blaze Foley, but he's also redone by John Prine.
Starting point is 00:57:59 It's probably my favorite song. And what about that song resonates with you? It's just a story about a guy that isn't happy of where he's at and so he's gonna go back to texas and like kind of just figure out his life it's just a very simple thing and about him just trying to find happiness in the simple things did you discover the song in a point in your life where you were maybe in that for sure did it for sure yeah i think because some people like you know i think when you're in new york city and you listen to a song about a hometown, sometimes it will resonate with me.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Like, just a simple song. I just want easy living. It's like, I just wanted to get away from things. And I think songs can do that for you. They can bring you home, I guess. I know it sounds cheesy. You know, I asked you this because I think you have the same, like, attraction to certain songs that I do.
Starting point is 00:58:53 It's like, oh, because it says something that is very articulate your exact feeling. It's like you like kind of country folk, like specific lyrics that will like evoke feelings about your own life that you can project your own life onto. Whereas some people like techno or metal, but like metal songs where the lyrics are raw, like I don't understand liking those because it doesn't, the lyrics don't tell a story to me, but I guess the anger and the like, what's, what's the attraction to that kind of music, Noah?
Starting point is 00:59:23 I guess for me, like a lot of the lyrics were about rebellion and stuff like that. And the music does project emotion too. It goes with my rage or anger and it's a release. That makes sense. Of it being just the growl you want to make like when you're that you like that yeah the that makes sense what do you listen to when you're i mean i guess i listen to hard rap when i want to work out you know i'll listen to like uh um you know kanye or uh g do you picture yourself as a rapper like i just think that my relationship with music is so based upon me being able to
Starting point is 01:00:06 pretend i'm in the music video but when you want to get amped up if you're angry and you want to even double down on that anger like no i listen i listen to love the way you lie by eminem and rihanna but generally it depends on what i'm angry about you know like uh if I'm mad at my dad I want to listen to um the Kelly Clarkson uh because of you I want to find a song that's about being mad at your dad or I want to find a song that I can or I'll change the lyrics to a song to make it make sense for me a little bit more because sometimes there are songs about women and i'm like oh i want it to be about a man um so that like i always pick a song but generally i always pick a song that if you were shooting the scene in which i was listening to it would be a perfect music video for that song interesting yeah no i think i'm similar in those ways i mean i i never
Starting point is 01:01:01 listen to music like outside of what my emotion is at the time. Me neither. It's just weird when you're sad and depressed and then you throw on a heavy, I don't know, fucking Metallica would just be weird to me. Although they do say that wallowing and when you're depressed and listening to depressed music makes you more depressed
Starting point is 01:01:23 and you should actually try to do the opposite. I will say that I did a thing. I have typed in happy like on podcasts. You know how they have like you could browse categories. And I've typed in like happy. Make you smile. Like the cheesy. Sure.
Starting point is 01:01:39 It's just like putting your tongue in the mirror and shaking. Do you clearer? Oh, I put on, you know, for 4th of July when Marion was having, you know, I was taking care of Marion over that weekend. I went on Spotify and just wrote in like soothing dog. And it was like so many soothing dog songs. There was playlists for soothing dogs. And now I listen to it all the time because it was like so soothing for me. I guess I'm a dog. I mean, I was yesterday when I was pretending to be one in the pool.
Starting point is 01:02:10 But there's this thing that I saw on the subreddit for Taylor Swift last night that was like what'd you guys get on the fan? Oh, here it is. Prove your stardom. See if you've got what it takes to be today's top fan. So you go to Spotify and it comes up Taylorlor swift for me
Starting point is 01:02:25 because it knows so they're doing this new thing on spotify kind of like end of the year lists and everyone on taylor swift was like what'd you guys get for um today's top fan i'm gonna go what the fuck is this and so i'm about to find out last night i did see it and i would just want to oh okay so it's it's saying today's top fans and it's like taking me through this thing okay i did sign in you bitches hold on you guys i'm so sorry fuck wait why is it making that noise where's the noise coming from oh it's coming from my phone into the thing i'm so stupid oh my god wait why is this making me Just let me log in Let me log in
Starting point is 01:03:07 That felt like Zoolander when they were like looking for the files on the computer I don't even know what's happening anymore I'm just gonna get out of this I'm sorry Yeah well Oh here's soothing music for dogs I will say that I went to it And I'm in the top 1% of Taylor Swift fans Yes Which made me feel
Starting point is 01:03:26 really really good. It'd be weird if you weren't imagine. Well everyone else in the subreddit some of them were like I'm 7% I'm 5% and these bitches are posting every day so I was like wow even with Taylor Swift fans I'm a little bit more intense and she's I think it was 40% of
Starting point is 01:03:42 the music I listen to is Taylor Swift and other girls in the site were getting like 10%. I'm like, I am more obsessed than these obsessed girls. It's weird. I was trying to get you into Maggie Rogers to get you another singer-songwriter like going in your... I know my dad tried to do that with Kacey Musgraves
Starting point is 01:03:57 and I was like, dad, don't do this. I like her and Maggie Rogers I did like, but I just... Dad, don't do this. Yesterday we were playing that Esther P perot game don't do this dad i have one please don't do this to me i'll go down to three he's like she's a better songwriter than taylor swift and i was like dad i am not gonna like we got into such a big fight i'm like you don't even know that much of casey musgraves i know the whole taylor swift catalog like
Starting point is 01:04:20 and like i now i will fight my dad and say that Taylor Swift is as good as the Beatles and he would I mean he wouldn't be he disowned me but I would I would argue someone on that I'm a huge Beatles fan but um yeah it's like you tried to get me into Maggie Rogers it's just not gonna happen I yesterday we did a question game and it was like share something joyful and it and the the category was like share something joyful and then the category was like, share something joyful. And then it was like, something you would have told yourself in high school. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:04:53 just hold out for a girl named Taylor Swift. It was just me whispering to myself, just wait for Taylor Swift. She will make you feel, like I'm so grateful that I didn't even know that it was possible to have an artist speak to you so much. Like it's, I feel like I have a, you know, when people are, like, disabled and they're, like, I'm grateful for it.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Like, I feel like my obsession with Taylor Swift is a disability. It's a weird thing. It's, like, something's wrong with my brain. But I'm grateful for it because I get to experience an obsession that most people don't. Most girls do maybe when they're in eighth grade and then it goes away. But mine persists and I feel like it keeps me young. Why do I care? Why do I care?
Starting point is 01:05:30 Why do you care? Let's find out. Tyler Cameron reveals that he lost his virginity in his mom's bed. Tyler Cameron was from The Bachelorette. He was on Hannah's season. He was the hottest guy that's ever been on that show. He ended up dating Gigi Hadid right after the show. He's like a supermodel.
Starting point is 01:05:48 He's a guy you see in perfume ads, like Eternity ads. He's so hot. He lost his virginity in his mom's bed. And then the girl that he lost his virginity to, he actually ghosted because he had so much anxiety afterwards. And she called him out on Facebook like, you hooked up with me and then he
Starting point is 01:06:04 stopped talking to me. You're a piece of shit. But really, he wasn't ghosting. He was just afraid. And I think that happens a lot with guys. It happens a lot with me. It used to at least. Where I would hook up. I mean, the Sephora incident is one of the most famous ones.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Yeah, where I pretended I was invisible out of Sephora with a girl that I made out with. And I wasn't invisible. I was very visible because i was right behind her in line he was invisible i want everyone to understand what happened here he made out with a girl drunkenly at some point in the future near future he was at sephora and in line in front of you or behind you doesn't matter she was close enough she was there and you instead of just like maybe avoiding eye contact or like being on your phone and acting you said i'm invisible and you convinced yourself she couldn't yeah i turned into
Starting point is 01:06:51 the boy from big daddy and he's like i'm right here i'm right here oh yeah yeah yeah what what were you thinking i wasn't i was obviously having an anxiety attack i get you know yeah i mean you know me and you know when you're a good looking man like me and tyler it's just tough you know when you hook up and women are just so it makes sense though i think this is going to be the new defense when guys get me too it is like i was having anxiety that's why i told you that you couldn't work here unless you blew me um it is such a good no i believe it though i believe it though because you know I've been Hurt by guys in the past where I'm like you ghosted me
Starting point is 01:07:28 And you know one guy whether or not he was Lying said like I I told you too many Things and I felt really embarrassed at how Vulnerable that you got me to be in Conversation and I just didn't want To it was like a night Where we like you know you
Starting point is 01:07:43 You get connected because Of whatever you just feel comfortable enough to share. I asked the right questions, made him feel comfortable. And then it's like, he would, he felt like it was almost like running into his therapist on a, like going on a date with his therapist.
Starting point is 01:07:57 And he was like, I just couldn't see you again because you knew all these things. And I, and he was probably so disconnected when he was sharing them that he couldn't see that I didn't care and that I wasn't going to – he couldn't even remember my response and probably invented in his mind like I can't be with someone who knows these things that I've never told anyone. And that's why you shouldn't psychoanalyze guys you like even if you can. After they take an Ambien. Or – yeah, exactly. or yeah exactly or you you know or i do i want to be with someone who will be able to handle that
Starting point is 01:08:26 and and can tell me those things and look at me the next day and not feel like it is interesting but him ghosting me was not because i wasn't pretty or what i mean it could have been that too but i was relieved by his explanation eventually i wonder if like yeah i wonder why guys don't want want to keep things on the surface. I mean, so many people want to just keep things on the surface until maybe forever. You know? I wonder what it is about you knowing his deepest, darkest secrets or whatever makes him uncomfortable with that. And why? Because it's almost like when you're drunk and you do something like that you wouldn't normally do if you weren't drunk.
Starting point is 01:09:05 And then you don't want to talk to that person again because they saw you say something or confess something. Even though it's true, you just whether or not this person was drunk or on Ambien. I truly have gotten people dead sober to reveal things to me that they've never told anyone. And even in like, you know, you could just be in like an intimate like in a bed bedroom setting and say something and then the next day it's like with sex too like some people don't want to talk about sex because it's so vulnerable and you look like an animal your skin is flapping around and you're like panting and making weird noises your fart sounds are coming when your chest compress and like or like you're queefing you might shit on someone like and then you put on
Starting point is 01:09:43 clothes and you just i mean i did it in my first half hour special. I don't understand why people have sex and then they put on clothes and they're like, that never happened. And you just walk around and you put on a turtleneck and you're like, yeah, I didn't suck any dicks last night. I'm wearing a turtleneck. And it's like, why do we have to separate?
Starting point is 01:09:57 Why can't we talk about sucking dicks and outside of the bedroom? Why is it so shameful? And I'm just, i wish everyone could be that trans and just be themselves and that's what i i feel close when someone tells me something they never told anyone and i just am attracted to vulnerability but a lot of men feel like that is a turnoff because they've been conditioned by society to never feel their feelings so they should think they i mean i do think like it makes sense that they feel that way. It was interesting. I was, I forget who I was talking to, but she's like, yeah, you share, you could share
Starting point is 01:10:27 all your like deepest secrets or whatever, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're connected with your feelings. You know what I mean? Like some guys can be like, yeah, when I was seven, you know, you know, I got ran over by a tractor and my dad was cheating on my mom. It doesn't mean that just because he's opening up to you, he could be opening up for the wrong reasons to just get laid too. So it's like some people are like, wow, he's so brave for sharing that story.
Starting point is 01:10:55 But that doesn't mean you're really connected to this story. And if you're not able to look at the things that happened to you, I was beaten as a child, I was molested, but you're not able to see how that has impacted your life now and make those connections, you might be able to admit that that happened to you I was beaten as a child I was molested but you're not able to see how that has impacted your life now and make those connections you might be able to admit that that happened to you but if you're not realizing how those things affect your life now then it's not really even worth it to me that it that means it's nice that you're able to talk about it but it's not that's not what I want from you I just I just want everyone to like let themselves off
Starting point is 01:11:23 the hook a little bit for the stuff that they do based on the stuff from their past. So if you're able to connect those, that's very hot. But it takes a lot of work, and that's why I stopped going to therapy because I want men to catch up. Let's get to the game. Today's wild card game is literally a wild card game. We're going to play the game that I talked about earlier that I played with my friends yesterday that got someone to cry,
Starting point is 01:11:43 reveal things they've never revealed. We were doing this all at a pool, Andrew, the same pool where people were hating us. We were playing this game where we all started, we just had the best conversations because of this game. It's called Where Should We Begin? Noah Bought It. And these are the two cards we're going to do. So you pick one,
Starting point is 01:11:59 the main card, which is Share Something Unbelievable. And this is a storytelling game. So each of us are going to share something unbelievable, okay? And then the way we have to start the story is, this card, I make too big a deal, I make too big of a deal
Starting point is 01:12:15 about blank. It has to be something unbelievable. Okay, this is tough. I make too big a deal out of, and then the thing has to be something unbelievable. Like that you wouldn't believe of something true? Like that someone might find unbelievable or like, you know, the word unbelievable can mean a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:12:33 So your interpretation of that word, I guess. No, you want to go? Or Nikki, you want to go first? I make too big of a deal. Whoever gets one first. I make too big a deal. I make too big of a deal. Whoever gets one first. I make too big a deal. I make too big of a deal out of, Oh,
Starting point is 01:12:47 I mean, prime example. I make too big of a deal out of things I've found that really work for me. And I want to keep them secret from other people because I feel like I'm just naturally worse than everyone. And so when I find a serum that works for me I want to keep it because if everyone gets it then everyone who naturally is already better than me is going to be better than me with the serum the serum was only getting me up to like be a little bit better and it was my secret and my fear that fear is truly unbelievable because it's unfounded and it seems so petty for someone who is so aware of and wants to make people's lives better.
Starting point is 01:13:32 That to me, that is an unbelievable trait about me that I'm still trying to harbor these beauty secrets so I have a leg up because I feel so inherently ugly and less than everyone else. That's mine. I wonder what makes you and less than everyone else. That's mine. What makes you so competitive in certain ways? What do you think? What happened? It's not competitive. I mean, is that competitive? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 01:13:54 No, it doesn't think so. Maybe not in this way. Maybe this is just like in general maybe. Because I just told you, I feel like I was born not not naturally talented not beautiful not anything and so i have to work for it and spend years trying different serums and like put on the work and then some and then some beautiful girl who's already looks like a model has good skin just listens to one podcast and now she gets this thing for eight dollars so hard because i'm ugly to find like and i'm i'm speaking from my worst self here i don't think i'm ugly but that it all comes from feeling like i'm ugly and
Starting point is 01:14:32 not as good as other people that's why i'm competitive because i want i guess that's it because i just don't like myself and so if i win things then that gives me a sense of self-worth and if i'm I have good skin, that'll mean that I'm not a bad person or whatever. Because, I mean, you're competitive, but not in the same way as me. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. You ask that, you're like,
Starting point is 01:14:55 why are you so, like, you're not competitive. No, I didn't mean it. And I'm not accusing you, but I think maybe it's a different kind. I didn't mean it to come off as a judgment. I was just wondering, like, what drives your competitiveness? Because I do think. Because being hot gets men to like you and when men like you they give you
Starting point is 01:15:10 things and money and things and i want those things and um yeah i want to survive that's why i'm competitive i want to survive and i want to i want my species mainly my genome to survive that's why and you it literally is survival of the fittest in the animal kingdom. So to survive, you've got to be the fittest equals you've got to be competitive, I think. So it all checks out, I think. What was the line? I'm sorry. What was the line?
Starting point is 01:15:37 It is share something unbelievable, and it's I make too big of a deal about it. I probably make too big of a deal out of me playing golf and that it's unbelievable that I think if I really do keep this up, I could possibly be on the senior tour when I'm 50. No, I don't think that's unbelievable, but yes, it seems like a big dream. I was talking. But I don't think it's unbelievable yet. So my cousin Mikey shot a 74 and a
Starting point is 01:16:05 76 which is he's lights out he's he's an extremely good golfer and i was talking to my uncle about i was like i really think if mikey's only like 29 i was like i really think if he like really like drove himself and was driven and he has the talent and my uncle right away like completely knocked it down he goes i wouldn't tell him that and i wouldn't yeah he's like there's guys that are scratched i wouldn't even sniff a tournament and i was like what is this negativity is that his son yeah okay well there you go this guy this guy your uncle's a good golfer doesn't want his son to be better sees that he has the potential to be better he's already better is discouraging yeah it's just weird it's just weird it's like that thought process
Starting point is 01:16:50 is like no he like there was a time when a guy was worse than him who's on tour you know what i mean like there was a time when it yeah these are when people just want everyone to this is me not telling people how to get the squalling it's like i and i was i just you didn't hear my opening but it was all about like it only comes down to practice no one is naturally talented it's so few people that are actually just born talented it's all comes the most successful talented people are the ones that put in the most hours the best golfer right now is five seven 140 pounds i bet you anything he's put in the most hours. He has. He has. He was on a golf course every single day.
Starting point is 01:17:27 And I'm sure his parents never told him once that he couldn't be a tour pro. Or they did all the time. That's a good point. That's a good point. This guy is his own person, and he can probably take that. A lot of people are like, Lady Gaga went to Southern Cards concerts. No one ever believed in me. They said I couldn't do it.
Starting point is 01:17:44 And it's just like, I don't think that's true. But, okay, I'm sure you were spurred on me they said i couldn't do it and it's just like i don't think that's true but okay i'm sure you were spurred on because people said you couldn't um noah do you have an answer to this uh question i think i make too big of a deal about um like how i present and a lot of that is like if someone is coming over or whatever like even if it's a friend like my house has to look really neat I have to like hide any um flaw and even like with this vacation like I had this overwhelming sense of like I have to buy new clothes everything has to look new and I have to look crisp and you know like like presentable to like into society and it's like so stupid and but i always have that and just you know like when i'm anticipating seeing someone or bringing someone
Starting point is 01:18:32 into my home i have the same thing and it's worn off for me because i've gone on enough enough of these girls trips that i know that i wear the same thing every day and so does everyone else and but yes i i have that too. And, and the thing of people coming over your house, I just let go of that because I just know that my messes aren't like indicative of me being like, there's not blood everywhere or there's not like, maybe there's like hummus containers that I'm like, Oh,
Starting point is 01:19:00 the people will know I binged on hummus last night. That's a little embarrassing. Like, and then I'll be, I'll have to explain it or something but generally like mess like now I the other day I was having this guy that I'm hooking up with coming over and I was like oh I need to clean for him and then I was just like none of I'm looking at the mess in my room I go all of this is explicable is it you could explain it. And none of it indicates that I'm a bad person or an addict or like, just like almost hiding my messes
Starting point is 01:19:31 now, unless I put like, I can't throw things away in a closet and shut the door. That feels like I'm lying. But if I put it away in a neat way, then it's like, okay, that's authentic. But like hiding things like messes and like cleaning up fast always makes me feel like I'm a drug addict or like that I'm, that I'm lying. And then it makes me feel like it hates, hate myself because if I open that closet door, that's like all my shame.
Starting point is 01:19:54 And so it's been easier for me to just go to look at mess and go, yeah, there's like toilet paper on the floor. Cause sometimes I literally miss the toilet seat and I just like pee and I wipe and toss it behind me and it's on the floor because sometimes I literally miss the toilet seat and I just like pee and I wipe and toss it behind me and it's on the floor and that doesn't mean I'm a bad person like it doesn't mean I'm gross or that I like don't take care of myself or I can't be a good mom or a good wife or like all these things I fear it just means I sometimes don't I don't care about toilet paper hitting the floor and I just don, I don't look behind me after I pee.
Starting point is 01:20:25 But Noah, I feel like, yeah, you gotta hide it. You know, you're like, you know, but anyways.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Well, you know, wait, hold on. Before you even came to my hotel room, like we didn't get room service yet. And I was like, oh no,
Starting point is 01:20:41 I have to clean up my room because Nikki's coming over. You know, you organize everything. And I was like, no, what are you doing? This is not real. Yay! Yeah, you just like put the sheet over like you just like close your sheet like you like put your bedspread back over but I don't like I would and that's me. I'm not
Starting point is 01:20:56 very observant so I wouldn't notice a mess. There are times where I go over to someone's house and it's true. Like I've told you guys about someone's house I went to that I thought would be like a normal house and it was a dump and it was like trash everywhere. And he didn't apologize for it. He wasn't like, sorry, it's bad. I didn't have time.
Starting point is 01:21:11 It was in that to me. I go, this person is suffering with a mental illness and it was a little embarrassing on his, and I was a little judgmental, but that was because the, the, the filth was at a level where it was like, this is almost uninhabitable. This is bugs. This is things. These are things that make me realize you, the person you present as is not the person that I'm seeing.
Starting point is 01:21:33 And it's weird that you weren't able to address that. If you walk into someone's place and they go, it's messy, sorry, then I'll let anything go. I get that. I'm trying to figure out though it's like with noah with this trip right you felt like you were like worried about buying new stuff and whatever and i feel like sometimes if as as people like if we don't anticipate something being bigger than it is then it's not important to us and i feel like like i don't know i feel like there's
Starting point is 01:22:02 like like like brenna with her new job here in chicago she's like i gotta get on the train i gotta figure out how to get there i don't know what i'm gonna wear to work and she goes to work she comes back and she's like yeah it was whatever about like we anticipate these things and we build them up to make it seem like maybe our lives are important you know what i mean like like this trip that makes. But how do you make it seem still important while not having the, the, you know, the anxiety of like,
Starting point is 01:22:30 I need this. I need to present myself like this. I even regret not buying a couple of new outfits because it is fun when we get dressed for dinner and then everyone shows up and everyone compliments each other. Like that dress is cute. That's this. And like,
Starting point is 01:22:42 no one will say anything about mine. I go, Oh God, they've all seen this before. It would be fun to get a compliment final thought that is why many years ago i banned compliments from my girlfriends like i don't want compliments about my looks i don't want you to say oh my god you look really pretty today oh my god i like your hair oh i love that shirt i love that outfit and because when they didn't do it i felt so sad because it was just like something that i then like the lack of it meant I was worthless as opposed to they just their mind is elsewhere and they didn't pay attention to my new shirt.
Starting point is 01:23:13 So now when I said don't ever say it, I always just assume they think I look great and they're just not saying it to respect me. And like even last night, there was a lot of compliments going around. I was like, God, no one's told me I look great this trip. And I was like, oh, my God, because you told them all not to. It's gotten around. And it was so freeing. I was just like, I'm so glad I did that because whether or not that's true, that protected me in that moment from feeling bad. And I'm with the hottest girls ever. Like everyone has, every girl I'm with has something about her body that I would murder you to have.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Like literally, there's every single one of these girls has something that I can go, why isn't my body like that? Why can't I look like that? Why can't my skin look like that? Why aren't my eyes like that? Why isn't my hair like that? Every single one of them. And I've had those moments throughout the whole trip of like, God, she's just so effortlessly gorgeous. Yesterday there was a picture of Noah that really triggered me.
Starting point is 01:24:10 And I was like, I can't look at this because Noah isn't even trying to be a model. And I was trying to be a model. And she looks like a model. And even this morning I went to breakfast and Carlisle was like, Noah, that picture of you. And I'm like, right? I was like, I couldn't look at it because I was just like so jealous and it's like that's that I've I've decided to just forego like I really so that's why sometimes I just don't want to wear makeup and I want to wear ugly clothes and I whenever I pick out a cute outfit I unless I'm being styled by my stylist if I'm putting together
Starting point is 01:24:41 a cute outfit especially with girlfriends I will throw one thing into it that looks a little shitty. There's something about me that I just, I can't have the whole thing look good because it's trying too hard and if I fail, then it's because I'm not good at it. What would be an example of that? Okay, so I'll have a really cute outfit. I'll have
Starting point is 01:24:59 a top that's brand new that is really trendy and like stands out and everyone's like, oh my God, that's a fun top. And then I'll have shorts that perfectly go with it. And then I'll wear a shitty pair of flip flops or you'll pick up really clean gym shoes with old, like with, uh,
Starting point is 01:25:15 old Navy workout shorts and a Lululemon really cute top. But the old Navy workout shorts are going to be shit so that if someone doesn't compliment my outfit, I can blame it on the old Navy workout shorts or the flip-flops but if i try head to toe to look amazing that was the thing that bothered me when i first started getting hair and makeup done was that you the you have two people working on you that are the pros at what they do and you look as good as you can ever look and sometimes it's not good enough and it's just like i always want to leave room for improvement or room to let myself off the hook for not getting the love i deserve oh it's because i it's because i wore
Starting point is 01:25:51 that shitty fanny pack with my outfit yeah like i wear the shitty fanny pack everywhere with cute outfits and it ruins my outfit but that gives me yeah i had the same kind of fears with um getting help and going to therapy and stuff because i was like at least now i have an excuse for why i'm not successful or i'm not my best self like but once you figure things out and you are your best self and then you're not enough that hurts almost worse yeah when you get done with hair makeup and you're like but it's i'm still not giselle bunchen but i put it through all this effort it's like yeah it really it bums me out so i always leave myself a little bit of an excuse. There are times sometimes when I'm running and I'm trying to beat my time from the day before when I used to run against myself competitively.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Which sounds ridiculous, but it's so true. I used to sometimes throw the end of the race because I just could tell that I wasn't going to beat my time, so I just might as well really unbeat it so that I don't even have to consider that as a contender. I wasn't really trying. Or you do so well, then you know you won't be able to beat it the next time so you don't do too good
Starting point is 01:26:55 because then you can't beat yourself. Jesus. Or your uncle's paying for you to play golf and you want him to pay the next time you come to town, so you just throw the last hole. No, I was talking about it yesterday with um because sarah lena's like you're so good at guitar and you're gonna be a singer song i need to do that girl i need to do that we start guitar around the same time and she i think she's feeling like why am i not that good and i go it's because i put in more hours with the guitar but sarah lena there's more stuff i
Starting point is 01:27:22 could be doing like i am i want to be a singer songwriter i keep talking about it and like i'm going to be one yet i will not take singing lessons because i'm scared they're going to say you smoke too much pot you need to your voice you're ruining your voice uh there might be nodules on your voice let's go get you tests oh my god there are nodules you have to not talk for a year or something. I live in fear of like, I don't really do all the things that I want to do to reach my dreams because I'm scared of not being naturally good at them
Starting point is 01:27:52 when really, like I said at the top of the show, it's all about practice. And you aren't going to be good right out the gate. And I'm so scared. I'd rather not know that I'm not good. Well, you don't need to be perfect. Or that I need to stop smoking. I mean, I know it sounds cheesy,
Starting point is 01:28:04 but you don't have to be perfect. You're just going to be great in your own way and that's perfect, if that makes sense. Yeah, I always remember Bob Dylan sounds like absolute garbage and he's the most famous. A lot of his songs were definitely written on speed because he was
Starting point is 01:28:19 so drugged out and on coke. That's why his songs were 40 minutes long sometimes with a million verses. Whenever I get down about not sounding like ariana grande like i'll never be able to sound like her or even taylor swift for that matter i always go well bob dylan gets away it's like okay then i can do anything i mean that one guy fucking sounded like an ashtray. Oh, yeah. Lou Reed. Was it Lou Reed? Well, he did, and then that other guy.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Goddamn. Yeah, well. Yeah. Remember that book that is kissing a girl who smokes like licking an ashtray? Oh, really? Do you remember that book? It was supposed to...
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