The Nikki Glaser Podcast - #87 Special Fboy Island Edition

Episode Date: August 19, 2021

It's Fboy Island Season 2 on HBO MAX announcement day but there is so much more to dig into from Season 1. Nikki and Andrew are joined by CJ Franco, Josh McDonald and Garrett Morosky. Lots of behind the scenes stories, shocking revelations that even Nikki the show's Executive Producer didn't know about, who is together today and who might be together in the future! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We have CJ Franco who's going to be on. We have Josh whose name I forgot. Last name I forget. McDonald? Yeah. Josh McDonald? I had a farm. And then we have Garrett Moronski? Moroski. Moroski. I always want to put an N in there and I wonder

why. No, I'm just kidding. Just having a lot of fun here. Very excited to have all these folks on the show. Andrew Collin is also here with me. How's it going, Andrew? I'm good. How'd you sleep? Okay, well, we watched FBoy Island last night.

Yes, we watched the last two episodes. Yes, we watched the mansplain episode 9 and the finale episode 10 Andrew you had taken kind of a break I think you watched the first two episodes you bookended it and then you jumped in at the end I felt like I understood well you were there

you were there with me on the island as you all know we started this podcast while we were filming FBoy Island there are a lot of questions we want to get to that were submitted by fans about the show, about our experience on the show. We want to give some behind the scenes details. This show came about because my friend Elon Gale, who created the show, and was a guy that produced on The Bachelor for, I think, over a decade. He knew I loved reality he was a fan of mine I'm a fan of his he also is a author I was wrote up a piece for his book

actually um he did a comedy book of like you're just not great it's like it's like a it's like a self-help book about how like you're not that special it's pretty funny and I wrote a little blurb about how my therapist told me I wasn't a beauty. And but he called me up and was like, you might you might be perfect for the show I'm doing. And he said the name and I go, oh, my God, I saw that in an email from my agents a while back. And I wanted it so bad because I just a show called F Boy Island clearly is a show that makes fun of itself and needs a host that is funny and also is a fan of the genre. And I said, Andrew, I got off the phone with Elon and I go, Andrew, I remember where I was. I was in the kitchen.

I literally moved to St. Louis to essentially live with you. Yeah, this is, by the way, this is January. You moved in January 1st. Yeah. And this is, I get a call January maybe 18th from Elon. And then within three, then i hop on with producers on a zoom call i thought it went so well but then it was a thursday and then i fat friday i heard nothing and i'm like oh my god i've never followed up with my agents and managers about something

so fast and i was like i didn't hear from them and they're like just give it till monday it's okay and i'm like stressed the whole weekend i'm texting elon like thank you so much like doing anything i can to like just move this along i want it so bad and then um and then monday boom get the offer and i go andrew i think you came out of your room all like bleary eyed this is before you found golf or brenna and i go i was right around the time i think maybe you started dating Brenna yeah and you're taking your nap before your first date yeah and I go Andrew I got f-boy island which is at that time seemed like the most absurd thing yes ever yeah I remember you telling me about it and you were like it's called f-boy island I know I don't know whether to like you were still like a little bit on the fence just because of the name and the silliness of it but i don't think i was ever on the fence dude really i was psyched about the name

like i'm like because i just thought it was so funny and ridiculous like if you're gonna go hard like if you're gonna do it do f boy island don't start with some like you know love island like be funny about it you i honestly think you voiced this job into it and i've seen you do this before into existence like so i remember being on your balcony in new york and you being like because i was taking shit we both were taking a shit off the balcony okay yeah i remember and luigi was shitting and we both were on the balcony if you don't know inside joke whenever andrew and i back in my new york apartment if you would come over and i had to take a poop i'd go andrew balcony and he would go out to the balcony while i and jump off um and but it was uh and i remember you just saying like

not exactly this job but like somewhere in this genre of like you know either being a bachelorette or reality being something in reality with dating, dating around the world. You voiced this into existence. Also through hard work. I went out and pitched a show. I pitched a show with an incredible producer that was me dating around the world.

I still love that idea. I mean, it was really fun. This was pre-COVID. This was better, though, because that, although, this was the perfect way. I mean, I do want to be the subject of a reality show, and it's something that is truly, it's in the works, y'all. But, like, this, I do believe that after my Dancing with the Stars run, I was like, I know, I didn't get enough.

I didn't get, that ended too soon i'm not done i went back in and um yeah perfect for you you're so good at it i mean you're hosting this show is like you're perfect thank you i hear that a lot i watch it and i go wow i could have done that better that there's a lot of things i want to improve on i'm happy about my performance but there's a lot like i realized one thing um on. I'm happy about my performance, but there's a lot. Like I realized one thing. I want to be more expressive. Like I was saying it last night. I was like, I, to you, because I think you were saying some of the same things.

And I was like, no, man, I could have done better. I just want to be more. I want to make more faces and like have my feelings show up on my face a little bit more. I know. Maybe I got a little bit too much Botox from my dentist before. My dentist gave me Botox right before I left. And so I was, my face was a little frozen. Yeah You had some great faces, though. I know. Maybe I got a little bit too much Botox from my dentist before. My dentist gave me Botox right before I left, and so my face was a little frozen. Yeah, your teeth weren't doing anything.

No, you had these pensive looks, though. The more serious looks you were giving, I felt like, no, you watched it. I thought it was so funny and so perfect. Okay, let's test my F-boy faces. Okay, tell me, um like give me scenarios that happen on the show all right um yeah so garrett i think you're an f-boy and i like tell me something that happens and i respond to it oh okay like give me an example og jared tells nikia

that he loves her that really was a moment I got goosebumps on my face. That was when I knew, oh, I love this show and that I'm sold and we're making magical TV. Okay, so give me another one. Sarah found out that she is not adventurous. Because she is. Gary kept saying, God, Sarah, you're just so adventurous. I saw you like put your foot in the water. Oh, yeah, yeah.

And she goes, snorkeling is not an extreme sport. I loved her responses to that. Yeah, it's all about the faces. And there were some great ones. I mean, Garrett made me laugh so much on this show. And despite myself, I am a huge Garrett fan. And no one can understand it. All my friends are like how could

why didn't you punch him during the finale how did you just stand there and I go first of all that's not my job and I don't I don't like the idea of my fist hitting someone's face it like hurts me to even think about that and um and I honestly I was disappointed in him and like mad that he would do that to Sarah and after he just got done saying I want to wake up every morning and kiss you before I go to work. And I want to eat cold pizza with you. Like right after that speech, it was diabolical. But he also makes me laugh a lot. Could it be that he has blonde hair and blue eyes and you happen to have blonde hair and blue eyes?

That there's something probably in there? Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. That's all I need to like someone is if they look a little bit like me um no okay so andrew you i invited you to f boy island with me almost immediately i said you're coming along because i had to quarantine for two weeks and i go and we're starting the podcast come on out there it's five degrees in st louis yeah we we go to cayman islands we quarantine for two weeks we can't. We have caution tape on our front porch to keep us inside

the beach. We can see the beach. We're on the beach. You put something in front of your bedroom door for me, I think. To keep me out, which I thought was rude. Well, it was a flood zone and I didn't want you getting all the toys I brought there.

Now, in the Cayman Islands, I do want to say that it's a very Christian nation. Yeah, but you had to smuggle in toys. You were not supposed to bring sex toys. That memo did not get to Glazedog. And I brought like six different ones. I brought my whole, you know, I brought a whole suitcase of them.

I was in jail for bringing a dildo to the Caymans. It would be the best thing that ever happened to me. Best thing that ever happened to you. It would be my Kim Kardashian sex tape where i'd be like oh no great this is a great headline but then i ended up dealing them uh to other people on the show there was a producer on the show who was like i didn't bring any because they're illegal here you know all people in the cayman islands there's no sex stops shops you just have to go to sharper image and get a fucking cut down a tree

you just have to like I don't know like dry hump a turtle it's it's not easy out there so I dealt one of my sex toys to a girl that I had only used once and I cleaned it off like with you know Dawn soap the same stuff you clean ducks off

in an oil spill because let's say this thing had been through you know the exxon valdez disaster just with one rodeo with me and um and i gave it all it takes we had a blast on that island let's get to some questions uh from our fans about the show and about uh the scenes. Noah. All right, I have great questions from our besties. So can we do these kind of rapid fire? Yes. Okay. Okay, ScienceGuy underscore 1976 asks, what were memorable moments for you

in the show that did not air? Oh, memorable moments that did not air. I mean, for me, the um the therapy session with all the guys uh anthony uh was so hilarious during that session and he did this really um heartfelt moment where he was talking about how hard it was for him to not be having sex all the time on this island because he's an f boy and he's used to having sex and we had to take this over probably five or six times because everyone was laughing so hard but he really earnestly very sadly like he was almost you know recalling how his mom passed away or something was just like and then

you know what nikki like it was just really hard for me and there were a lot of times where i just like i just had like had to beat my meat and just like him saying beat my meat with such, with like a tear coming down his face was so funny. I just remember Divij and Peter, we're all like just cracking up. And then the other biggest moment for me was Charlie's elimination. It was on the second episode.

Charlie, the French man, F boy, who claimed to be a nice guy when it was time for him to reveal his true status was actually an F-boy. I got confirmation in my little ear from producers that he was indeed an F-boy. And I lashed out hard at him. I felt like you took out like 10 years of bad boyfriends out on Charlie. I know.

And in those 10 years, I had one boyfriend. Yeah. No, I took out 10 years of guys lying to me and people lying in general. Poor Charlie. And my aggressions for France. They were rude the one time I went in high school, the guy at the cafe.

And that's the whole country. I love when people do that. They're like, no, waiter, look at me weird. But no, I couldn't believe this guy was lying to me and like and what just boggled my mind was that we this is what a recurring thing for me on these reality shows when these people lie and then it's gonna air we're gonna see what you've already said you've claimed you we didn't just cast you as an f-boy i mean i wasn't part of the casting process but i knew that we had done our research on these guys no one was there as an f-boy that didn't

claim to do f-boy things and and admit to it now whether or not those were true that's another story but like he had set these things and so during his thing i lashed out at him and i go charlie i go right now is when we are going to actually cut to videotape of you saying that you had a woman toss a drink and I go now let's cut to that clip right now and I turn to the camera and they they cut that and then at one point I go are you even French and that really made me laugh and then Charlie at one point goes no but everyone all of these guys behind me they know who I am. They know. And I go, well, you're not trying to bang them.

And like they cut that. But they cut around it because I look too unhinged. And I didn't know. I didn't know how crazy I looked. Because the next night, I was so thrilled by it. Everyone loved it. But the next day, people came up to me at the cast party. We had a day off and everyone was drinking down at

this bar and all this these crew members that had not even said a word to me before had a couple drinks and finally got you know like the the liquid courage to say and they all came up to me and were like dude last night that was terrifying like you you like destroyed him and so I actually had to go to limbro and um before we shot the therapy sessions I took charlay aside and I said um I really want to apologize to you for like lashing out and um you know I didn't I didn't do any of the but you lied I just said that was that was out I didn't mean to make you feel that way because he was really sad afterwards and now we're like we're really cool. No, next question.

Okay, that was not rapid fire, but there was a lot of good dirt in there. I guess I'm thinking that me talking fast is rapid fire, but that's not what that means at all. Okay, next question comes from Theo Scott 23. If you can answer this, who wrote the line F boy F by? That was a joint production, but I do believe Andrew. Was that you?

I don't I don't I don't know. I believe I think it was, but I don't want. I think Elon and Andrew both came up with it individually. If I do remember, because I was texting with Elon, the creator of the show. And I think Andrew and him had both put that on their list of possible things to say, and once I saw it twice,

I was like, let's do that. But we- Because we were almost going to do, what was it going to be? Fuck Boy, or I forget what the other- Fuck Boy, Fuck Off. Yes, F Off.

It was going to be F Boy, F Off. And let me just say on the elimination I don't know if they aired it because I zipped past Garrett's finale last night I couldn't watch it because it was so it was so uncomfortable but I did when I said goodbye to Garrett on the

show I go F boy fuck you and everyone like I had to take it again but I did say that to his face. And that was really fun. One more question. F-boy, F-off, I remember. Before we get to CJ Franco, who is going to be on the show very shortly.

Okay, oh man, I have one question. Okay. Wasn't OG Jared so hot in turtlenecks? It was in Ireland, andcks? It was an Island. And that comes from a Lynch. Oh, literally hot. Oh my God.

His outfits. Let me just say, I wanted to trash his outfits so badly and wrote so many jokes in my head. And we, we would talk about them and I'd go like, what's he wearing tonight? But there were certain people that you couldn't make fun of because they don't have a sense of humor about themselves.

And he is on top of that list like he just he was there taking it very seriously even though he came in as an f boy so like he was lying but then in the end he was you know ended up being a nice guy but um yeah his outfits were ridiculous he looked like a poet laureate most times he never looked sweaty though in the sweaters and turtlenecks i was shocked which was interesting because it was like it was like 100 degrees too it was so hot yeah he was wearing layers he had scarves on here's the thing when you're when you're an eccentric person and you're kind of like out there and you wear whatever you want i love that but there's something about wearing something different and knowing it's different to be cool you know what i'm saying does that make sense like i've seen eccentric people wear scarves in 100 degrees and you're like remember when someone he like got accused of stealing someone's outfit oh yeah he was wearing someone

else's shoes and necklace yeah it was maybe davidges and he's like you never even gave those back you barred them and those are mine he's like these are not yours man they're mine it's like wait what that was such a weird moment there were so many moments let me just say the finale this is insider info the finale you saw where garrett came out and gave the and and and after he had confessed his love to sarah and said i really want to be with you and i'm you know i came in as an f boy but i want to be with you then she chooses him. He then takes the $100,000 that he has the right to either split it with Sarah or keep it all. He keeps it all and says, Sarah, I want to break up with you.

That was so devastating to the whole situation. We stopped down for like an hour. I mean, it was crazy. So then it cuts to me being like, Nakia, this is a rough night. That was an hour later i mean we there were so many moments where it was so tense that everyone had to like go walk off there was a lot of walk-offs that didn't air and a lot of um you know there was a whole drama with kevin which i want to get into with garrett because he had a great kevin line yeah but there's a whole drama between cj CJ and Kevin knew each other.

We're going to get to CJ in a second, but apparently Kevin has a helicopter company in Hawaii. A helicopter company. And CJ was a model for the helicopter. She's on his helicopters. I'm not even kidding. It's like her face is on the website and stuff. I bet he's taking it down by now.

And he never paid her for it. So he shows up and she's like, I know that guy. Well, I know what he is. What a weird coincidence. But they didn't end her for it. So he shows up and she's like, I know that guy. Well, I know what he is. What a weird coincidence. But they didn't end up using it. And in the end, I think they patched it up.

He Venmo'd her or whatever. I don't know. Maybe we'll find out. CJ Franco is up next. 2025 is bound to be a fascinating year. It's going to be filled with money challenges and opportunities. I'm Joel.

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who was there looking for love, found love. We are going to find out if she retained that love. But welcome to the show, model, comedian, actress, and reality star CJ Franco, everyone. Hi, CJ. Yes. It's so good to see you again. We've only communicated through DM, but how are you, girl?

I'm doing really well. I'm doing really well. I've been having a lot of fun. I've been hanging out with Sarah a lot. She's in town visiting. I saw you guys posting together, so she's out there for kind of like the finale. She came out to just... I mean, you guys have been waiting, I guess, to talk about the show until the last three episodes came out because you couldn't really say much before then, right? Yeah, it was hard. It was hard. If we did say anything, it was very delicate, like tiptoeing around the topic conversation. Yes. Okay. So let's just get into it. Um, wait, I have a couple of questions as someone who was also on the show. Was it hard for you to watch yourself or are you someone that

like, doesn't have a problem with that? Was it hard for you to watch this show? I'm no, I'm shameless. So you like, could it, you bought a bigger flat screen. I could actually watch it on a projector. I made it as big as possible. You know what? My friend Leah Lamar actually posted from your, she was at your viewing party for it. And I was like, where is this event? I thought it was like at the Grove or something. You, it was on your rooftop. You had a party for the premiere. That looks so much fun. And I'm so sorry. I couldn't attend even if I didn't get an invite. But no, you know, I wasn't in town. And you were in Tulum, right?

That's right. I was. So CJ, I want to know. So did you were you able to see all the episodes before they came out? Or were you watching them in real time with everyone else? Horror with everyone else. And what do you mean by horror what let's talk about your number one moment that you go oh god either about what someone else had said about you behind your back because that's the thing on these reality shows all the contestants are talking shit about each other don't they know that someday it's gonna air and the people are gonna see it well you can't think know that someday it's going to air and the people are going to see it? Well, you can't think like that. I know you can't. It will drive you insane.

Yeah, you can't. Is there any moment that you really cringed at? I think there were quite a few moments I cringed at. Yeah, you guys really threw us out there. I know. Tell me what you mean by that. Yeah, who's you guys? I'm just going to blame everyone. yes you're gonna take no accountability at all god damn it noah uh i blame noah she was in our ear the whole

time i feel wait so what what yeah what cringy part yeah like what's a moment that you were just like oh no or you had to maybe dm someone and be like uh i heard that i think the first big one um was the mansplain for me because i've been putting a lot of time into casey and so the bombshell from the mansplain um yeah that was that was i knew i knew something would come out because all the f boys have dirt, like, that's why they're F boys. So I knew something would come out, but I felt like I got to a point with Casey that I was like, you can tell me anything. I can deal with anything. I'm from LA. I am used to all of you guys, but you have to tell me and I think because we didn't have that open communication that you can see on my little face that I'm like very disappointed and it was embarrassing it was an embarrassing moment for me because I felt like I put a lot of faith into somebody and then they made me look bad but I'm on f-boy island so I mean that seemed like a gamble. Yeah, you know what? I was a little disappointed how that mansplain got edited because I, at the time, was just so...

I mean, I talked to you about this separately. When it came out that Casey had referred to you as a glorified escort or whatever the hell he said, which I wonder if he even knew that was something that was, like, waiting to... Like, if he even remembered saying it, do you think it was something that was like waiting to like if he if he even remembered saying it do you think it was something that he could have gotten ahead of like it was on his mind like I hope this doesn't come out or is it just like he just says so much stuff he couldn't keep track

no I don't think that was on his radar because I don't think that was I think that he repeated something that was said to him yeah with a nasty tone i believe that that happened yeah i don't think that that was at the forefront of his mind because i think he was just gossiping while i was with sean or um like sure these guys get such fragile egos that they do lash out in ways and they say hurtful things which we all do but there's cameras on them and there's other guys listening who are angry. But I just wanted to say the way you responded while we were at the mansplain was awesome because unbelievable. And I wanted them to keep it because to me it was just every girl gets referred to as get slut shamed at some point in her life. No matter what part of the spectrum of slut you get called.

Right. And CJ just, I, to me, that was watching you. Not an embarrassing moment that that's your own. Like I get, I don't get to tell you what not to be embarrassed by, but for me,

I was like, Oh my God, I love the way you handled it because I, I don't think it translated as much. I thought it was awesome how it came out on TV and it was accurate, but you were just like, listen, I've been been i've been called less and worse i just it doesn't even like the way you were just like uh whatever you didn't go like you weren't like what is that why what does that mean i am not you didn't get defensive you didn't have to go through a list of why that wasn't true she had the line about the that you're f you're getting paid

oh to be on this show to fuck us or whatever yeah that line was perfect i said you're yeah i said fuck and i think we all know that yeah if that was yeah you were i thought you instantly took control and then man i was saying it last night when we were watching the mansplain. I go, this was when Casey, like the mansplain really changed Casey's chances. Like that changed everything. And then he got up and walked away and then came back. But I thought that you saying if you would have just been honest with me and like if he would have said to you beforehand when you had given him the license to,

listen, I may have said some nasty things about you when I was jealous when you were out with Sean and I was insecure and instead I said this thing about you and said it to you in private would you have been able to forgive him like I know you can't actually you would have yes yes oh my god I have dealt with fuckboys before like and it's not just it's not just f-boys it's people people make mistakes I make mistakes and it's the only thing is taking accountability for the mistakes that you make and I go so far out of my way to try not to hurt people that I care about or to hurt anybody and so to not give me that courtesy was what kind of shook me. And it kind of made everything else that got called out after that comment, a comment, I've been called a whore

a million times, do not care, does not affect me. I mean, and I'm really sick of men trying to slut shame women to control them to make them feel smaller.'s not a cute look it's not fun I'm actually bored of it but the comments that followed that were like he has a girlfriend back home he's gonna use the money to live with Garrett and you know they're listing off these things and I was like I believe that I believe that yes I believe that and I'm like and the only reason I have the the mindset to believe those things is because you didn't get ahead of the other thing. Right. And you were willing to forgive him for all that stuff. And cause you knew he really did care about you a lot as we saw,

and he was going to actually split the money with you as we also found out. Now I want to know, um um are you still with new jared physically we are not together right um spiritually and emotionally what lee are you digitally digitally we are uh do we work together it's a wait you work together we are together oh you are together but you know what it's like he lives in miami and he works he works a lot and so i think what we've been trying to do is we've been trying to try to have a long distance relationship because the truth is he is a really like great man he is a really good guy and the there was a comment that was made which i was seeing for the first time in the um finale where he did not look like such a great

sweet guy and wait what what comment the dick taste oh no one needs to know the flavor of any dick oh the dick yeah i called it dude i texted I texted one of the producers and I go, how does my dick taste? I go, how could he? Because for those of you who don't know, she had a mega date with Jared where they spent the night together. And then the next night she had a date with Casey. And then Casey comes back to the house, sees Jared and talks about having a lot of cardio that morning, which I really thought I was like, he got up and went for a run.

That's so cool. I wonder where he went. Like I was thinking about the house and like, I totally went over my head. And then Jared's like, I got cardio too. Yeah, man.

How's my dictate? Like, it was just so not nice guy. Yeah. Nice guy. Mom called me and was like, I don't't think i don't think he's a nice guy i'm not convinced mom how do we know he's a nice guy that's my thing is like we're just taking these guys word for it you know when the guys would admit that they were an f boy or you know

come out as an f boy they would cut to casting footage of them being like yeah i lie to women i don't care i've heard a lot of women i i gotta do what i gotta do but the nice guys when they came out there wasn't like footage of them you know volunteering or you know cuddling kittens i saw a video new jerry just asking random people how his dick tastes and i was like man that is a good man that is a it's so nice you're doing that at a carnival. You're such a good guy. You know what? I think he really wanted to know.

Maybe he really... He's never tasted it. That's a good new product. It seems like a new product of lollipops that we're going to come out with. Oh, my God. Big pops. I love it.

I know he sells tea. He was DMing me this morning. He wants to send me some tea. And he was like, I have it for immunity, for good clean skin, for mental health, for a better tasting dick. And I'm like, I think it all comes back to that. He, yeah, I can't believe he was a nice guy because he just came on so strong when he first walked in. And then you chose him. Had to say goodbye to Casey.

Have you seen Jared, new Jared since? Have you guys like been in the same place since? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, of course. So what's hotter though?

Like an F boy, surprisingly being good or a good guy being bad. You know what I mean? Like F boy being good. Yeah. Nah. Really? Nah.

No, no. Like when a nice guy guy a seemingly nice guy has edge any guy can perform for long enough that he's a nice guy yeah okay i've stepped in that dick sand before now is there any regret you have from the show watching it back thinking i wish i would have done that differently or um you know like like, is there anything that you would do differently? I know. I'm so glad you said that. I'm so sad he's gone.

Pterodactyl. Pterodactyl. What a mean thing watching that. We were like, it was a little too obvious. You got to choose a better word. We wanted you to be a little more subtle with it of like, hey, what's your favorite dinosaur? Mine is a pterodactyl like you were just like SOS it's a working podcast yeah yeah it was um it was hilarious you were so funny on the show I want to know how they found you and how we hadn't seen you on a reality show before because you are just reality gold

you're just gorgeous to watch you're funny you're you know yourself how how did this come about for you uh my therapist sent it to me no way i was making too much progress and you know she wants to keep you around. Hang on a second. Hang on a second. So did they just – I'm guessing – because I asked a bunch of people this, and I think producers just, like, go through Instagram and find people that, you know, look like Garrett. And they have a lot of followers. Garrett's Instagram, they must have just been like – It looks like – every photo looks like a stock photo

You would like buy at Walmart Of a hot man that's already in a frame Oh it does It really does Like yeah that would look good on my dresser I will never switch it But CJ I want to know Aside from the dick taste line

When you were watching it back Were there any moments to you where you go oh no like of of things you saw on the show when you were watching it that you didn't know and that you heard and were like that bummed me out or like had to shoot a text to someone and be like anything i'm tough i'm real tough i know you are. Do you like how you were portrayed and edited? Do you like how you came across? I mean, I probably shouldn't say this, but I love how I came across. Hell yeah.

We all did. Honestly, all of my friends were on this text chain about it, and they're just like, we love CJ. We want to be friends with her. I mean, I'm sure you're getting a lot of DMs from people just saying the same thing like over and over. I'm like, I'm actually responding to a lot. I'm trying to send a lot of like video messages back and it's, my DMs are off the hook. It's not like I'm getting as many DMs as OG Jared, but like. Oh my God.

I am getting a lot of like from women and a lot of, a lot of gay guys and a lot of people that feel like they've navigated relationships in a way that was unfavorable for them. And they're saying that they haven't seen a woman take charge on reality TV and not tolerate any BS. And that we all kind of just let things go and let things slide. And you didn't let anything slide you really didn't when you didn't hug or when that first time that you didn't hug casey and left him hanging and he just goes brutal and he sits down i felt that i was like i need to do that more often it was early on and i forget what he had oh he, it was about Garrett, because they were buddies, and you were going to confront him about his relationship with Garrett, which then turned into a whole thing.

But at first, he walked over, and you're just like, no, no. And he walked over, he goes, come on. And he goes in for a hug, and he goes, no, no? Okay. Oh, brutal. And he just says it to himself, and it's just this moment. And I'm someone who always just wants to give guys what they want and just in general people what they want and so I just I I liked that moment that you were willing to leave him hanging there and like that it's so public but like but that's how I am it's like you

have to set like good boundaries and you have to teach people how to treat you and you can't expect me to be on your team if you're not on my team you know yeah and I feel like I did get some comments um for the middle three episodes saying that oh his friend oh like that's really mean and you know what like it's not mean I think that people if you want to be in a relationship, you need to prioritize your partner. And I think I, I value people with character and integrity so highly that I would never say like, Hey, this is a great person. I would never put my name on someone else who I didn't truly think was a good person or had good intention. And I think a big problem for me, it was that Casey kept saying that, you know, Garrett is a good intentions. And I think a big problem for me was that Casey kept saying

that, you know, Garrett is a good guy. And I'm like, you can say Garrett has a good dick. You could say Garrett has a fun personality. But you can't really say he's a good guy in the context of this show. Right. So you wouldn't

maybe have had an issue with him saying, listen, he's my friend because we have fun throwing the ball together And laughing together And he makes me laugh when he does impressions of people And says stupid things But I don't think he's actually I know he doesn't have integrity but he's still my friend Would that have been okay?

That's totally fine I have friends I have a million friends that are just garrett's they're just garrett's and it's fine it's fine with me but it's you know what you can expect from that person right because it doesn't feel honest it doesn't feel honest when you're like no he's a good he's a great guy you just don't know garrett i think casey's just too young to know the difference between like you can say you're friends with someone and still say they're not a great person.

Yeah. I have a plenty of pizza ship friends. Yeah. I think that's the distinction. Yeah. I'm a pizza ship. Because I actually felt the same way that maybe people felt that we're DMing you of,

of saying, well, you can't tell him who to be friends with, but it's now I understand it. I did. I thought you just go, no, you can't be friends

with him no matter what because of how i feel about him but all you wanted was him to acknowledge that garrett's uh not a sincere honest person you don't have to campaign for him yeah yeah you don't have to hand out flyers yeah yeah we're like i'm going door to door, you know? Yeah. I know. It was. Vote Garrett Morawski. Yeah, I thought the plane with the sign that. That was a little much. It was a little much.

He shouldn't have spent his hundred grand on that. You are also a vegan, and I wanted to say there was a brilliant moment that got cut from the show where she eliminates DaVidge. And it was, I think it was Davidge when you said the vegan thing. Was that right? It was poor Peter. It was Peter. Oh, yes. Poor Peter.

Poor beautiful Peter. Your reading line was great, too. Oh, yeah. The reading line she had. Yeah, I read it for her. The audiobooks. I mean, CJ was so funny. She couldn't talk for a little while.

I know. You lost your voice. Everyone was stoked about that. But you did a great line. Do you remember the vegan line, CJ? What was the vegan line? While I'm not one to push my ideas on other people, I do expect them to respect the things that are important to me.

When I said I was vegan, your reaction was rude. And for that reason, I don't think we're compatible. There was something about like cruelty to animals. And I'm going to get it like, you know, all animals have the,

have the thought to avoid pain and suffering, and so do I. And for that reason, Peter, you're out. Oh, I thought it was just so great. It was – Damn, twirl it. That was so good. Damn, what kind of chair is that? I know.

I was actually flexing on this table. Yeah. CJ, I loved that because that is the like people always roll their eyes about when you say you're a vegan and not everyone but it's just a it's kind of a a thing people do of like oh vegan they just love to make fun of you but the the point you made about the suffering and pain like that's what it boils down to i don't honestly don't even care killing an animal is the best part of its life. When,

when they're in these, like when people are like talking about you're vegan, cause you don't like that. They kill animals. I go, no, they're actually, I like that.

They come cause they put them out of their goddamn misery. It's the pain and suffering that leads up to that. Honestly, like every animal has to die at some point, but like, it's just the brutal suffering that they, that they go through. It's the treatment. It's the treatment of the facilities they live in.

They're sick constantly. They take their children. They kill the little male chickies that are the cute little baby chickens. They're so cute. I mean, is there anything cuter? It's like just the hypocrisy of people with their dogs and being like, I love animals and then eating meat. I just can't. And

people can't handle it. They can't. If if everyone was forced to watch factory farm footage, I think the world would be a different place. But they're not. So I just I don't understand how anyone can say they're an empath and then not be vegan. I don't know how anybody can say that I agree I completely agree Before you go I wanted to say the thing about I wanted to ask you about losing your voice Honestly because I lose my voice a lot What do you do for it? I don't know I was going to ask you

What do you do? I'm drinking like lukewarm coffee I drink like throat coat tea Which probably tastes like new Jared's dick. It's like, it's, um, I,

I just recently had to quit smoking weed. Like I just have to stop inhaling things. Have you had these little cannabis drinks, these little cans? No, CJ, don't get me started on that. Oh,

no, hold up. Hold up. Oh God damn it. This is the, she's going to find a way for me to get it in my system. Andrew's like, please don't. She's like, what you do is you pour out the drink and you smoke out of the can.

This is one of the best things in the world. Wait, what is it? It's a wonder. It orders can. And it's like, because I can't smoke anything with my voice like this. Yeah. And so I've switched to these. And it's like super light.

It's like having one little toke. Not that I'm promoting cannabis at all. Yeah. No, no, this. Yeah. And so I've switched to these and it's like super light. It's like having one little toke, not that I'm promoting cannabis at all. Yeah, no, no, no. Okay. But if I was, I'm telling you these little, I'll get you some of these drinks. That's what I'm asking.

I'll look into it. CJ, you can follow CJ Franco, who is hilarious. And I honestly, some of your captions, I'm just like, God, she's brilliant. How did she think of this?

She's just really funny. She hired a writer. No, she's, this? She's just really funny. She hired a writer. No, she's... This bitch does not need a writer. Most people do. This one doesn't. Are you still doing stand-up, by the way, CJ? Yeah.

I mean, I'm not... I still think she should do a guest set. For a 40-minute Netflix special. But I love stand-up. I don't know how good I am, but I am doing a show in, I think, two weeks love, I love standup. I don't know how good I am, but I am doing a show. And I think two weeks at the comedy Chateau. At the comedy,

what? The comedy Chateau. Chateau. Okay. Look for that. Follow CJ Franco on Instagram at it's CJ Franco. CJ, wait,

Noah, is there any burning question you have as a fan of F boy before we let CJ go? Because I know probably she's on the edge of her seat. Our producer Noah loves you and the show you i was actually curious about your outfits if you styled yourself if those are your clothes you just oh man you killed it oh thank you so much um yeah i had to pack like four suitcases. Most of my things were from my friend at House of Pink Lemonade. And we created actually a collection together of like swim and resort wear. I didn't know that.

You did have fantastic style. Does it all say Moritz? What? No, I just love the idea of her swimwear. Just Moritz. Like the hotel we stayed at. Oh, yeah. Well, no one knows that

i know you think that was gonna get a laugh i don't know anymore yeah um i mean there's a few more heads out there cj's cj's outfits were incredible and i you know what my friend recently wrote me and said that his young daughter was watching the show, like 10 year old daughter and was like, you know, I go, that's he goes, we you know, we have we can't tell other parents. We got to keep this like secret because it's just like we shouldn't let our 10 year old watch the show. And I go, actually, I think it's really good for her to watch the show. especially he said you know she's gonna have questions about the outfits and i said let me just say that cj's outfits to me were the first time i saw someone dress in a way that i'm dying to dress but i'm so scared that men are going to discount me and say that i'm dressed slutty or women are going to hate me because i'm showing off my body and how thirsty is that but it's the first time i saw someone wear it and like I felt like you you were like Gloria

Steinem in a uh like you know like it felt like you Ruth Bader Ginsburg could have worn some of the stuff you wear and it was you had this air of like I don't I'm not wearing this for anyone else and I wrote him this entire thing of it's important for your daughter your 10 year old daughter to see CJ's outfits and to know that her body is not someone else's to judge and that she can wear whatever she wants. And I don't know why it took me so long to understand that. But did you take a while to get to that with your own like sexuality and your body? Because you're a stunning woman who's probably been beautiful most of her life. Was this was this ever something that you were worried what other people thought about? Because I really struggle with it.

No, other people don't bother me. Like whatever someone else thinks that's on them. And that's a reflection of how they feel about themselves. So none of that, none of that affects me. I don't let what other people's insecurities are be projected on me. And even if it is projected on you, it's up to you whether or not you decide to take those feelings on. You don't have to let anyone else's opinions of anything affect you. And it starts with like, I'm going to wear whatever I want to wear. I'm going to do whatever I want to do because I'm so confident in myself and I'm proud of myself. And I like who I am. I like the way I treat people. And if someone decides to treat me differently, that is totally a them situation. And I hope that they grow and get better and get the confidence, you know, said like a true nice girl. And and I just you're very secure. And I think it was just

a great example for not only me and the other women on the show I mean you all had a a security about yourselves and self-esteem that I lacked at your age but um I just and that's what I keep hearing over and over is how great the women were on this show and how you guys weren't pitted against each other and how that's so refreshing so thanks for leading the charge with that because you were truly someone on the show that always just seemed so comfortable. I even said it the first day I was so nervous in the first elimination. And CJ, every time, every elimination really because they were so tense. And the girls would walk out.

I'd go, CJ, Sarah, Nakia. And they'd walk out. And CJ, you just always had this, like, confidence and this this like, I'm just here having fun. I don't know. You just, you really, I'm going to miss you for second season and I hope we find a way to sneak you back in because you really made me feel a lot,

like very comfortable. And I just loved having a vegan sister on set and just trying to sneak in all of those lines you knew they'd cut around because. They really, they really did. They did. Well, we got them in today. Thank you so much cj uh we will be in touch you were a great guest and i i hope to see you on the show again and please look at my road dates if you are ever in any of the cities

i am in i would love for you to come be on stage with me you're doing the circular stage this week now and uh i was supposed to do that but i'm not not. I'm not in town. I canceled my gig. But I have like a bunch of theaters that I'm doing. So if you ever want to drop by, you have an open invite as do the other girls. So let Sarah know too. And tell Sarah hello and we will be in touch with her shortly as well.

Alright, bye girl. Thank you so much. Bye. Alright, let's talk to Josh. Bring him on. Nice guy. There he's talk to Josh. Bring him on. Nice guy. There he is. Hi, Josh. Hey, how's it going?

Hey, Josh. Hey, how we doing? Do you remember Andrew? I do. It's good to see you. Where are you right now, Josh? I'm at my home in Chicago right now. All right.

You just got back from L.A., right? I got back from L.A. I'm still recovering. That is for sure. Oh, my God. I want to talk to you about it because you went to L.A. for like the premiere party where all the a lot of F-Boys and nice guys got together. Who was all there? We get along from time to time. Yeah.

It was honestly like the whole the whole cast of characters. I mean, you had Colin, Greg, Mark. I think it was Israel because it was Divij and Nando's birthdays. Oh, okay. Yeah, so they gave us an opportunity to come together and really be able to kick it because a lot of times that was the first time we've been back as a collective group since the show adjourned back when we stopped filming in April. Yeah.

Now, who did you have the best friendship with after the show adjourned back in, when we stopped filming, April? Yeah. Now, who did you have the best friendship with after the show? Like, who do you think you're gonna be lifelong friends with, if anyone? So I think like, so definitely like Greg. Greg, that's my dog. Jamie, super cool with Peter Park as well. And Garrett as well.

I know he's public enemy number one, but we were all him him greg and myself you know we all room together so so we were okay we had like we had a relationship while we were on the show what was it like rooming with those guys you guys were all at the cottages um together and you never you know you didn't say goodbye to you until the last episode so you were never at the um good guy grotto or the castle so you were always in those cottages what was it like going to bed at night in those bunk beds with like your competition throughout the day yeah yeah i mean you know we'll start with physical comfort and you know i'm six two um at 220 and my brag you know know, they were hanging just a little bit. They were hanging off the bed.

You know, it was a lot of... It was not the most comfortable setup, but I think that was part of it. It's definitely an exercise of mental fortitude. But, I mean, as far as Garrett and Greg, there were so many guys on there that were backstabbing and that were talking shit about each other and were snitching on each other and just had no respect for the game at all like i mean so it

was nice to be in a in a situation where you know guys could operate with a with a certain code and and even even though garrett and i were going after the same girl like we were still able to like you know at least be gentleman about it that That's what I was shocked by. I was thinking about it today about Garrett and I go, gosh, Garrett to me didn't seem to have many enemies on the show itself aside from like, it was like Garrett against like public opinion, but it was never. And I was thinking, wait, Josh and him never seemed to not get along. And they were the ones that were in the end on both sides of sarah at the mansplain and it's like so how did you was that intentional for you to not pit yourself against anyone and

to not have some drama that you know you didn't need to have did you try to avoid it i mean you had a little uh tiff with chris but that felt like more his deal than yours yeah yeah i mean you know nikki one thing about me is I'm going to stay out of the way. I don't try to start anything with anybody necessarily, but I'm also not the one that anybody wants to smoke with. So if somebody brings me, I'm very happy to settle in. That was what happened with Chris

where I was just like, look, man, I've been cool with everybody. I haven't had any struggles with anybody. I haven't talked bad about anybody. But he brought the drama to me. And so I was ready to, you know, I was ready to put my hands on him. Oh my God, that was so... In a nice guy way, though.

No, it was going to be enough. I was scared for him. That was one of my most uncomfortable moments, but like a good moment because it happened during a douche tank, which Josh, you were one of the first ones to grab on to my pronunciation of douche tank which josh you were one of the first ones to grab on to my pronunciation of douche tank and make me feel safe and yeah you were like you were really in

from the get-go it was a douche tank but during douche tank chris is sitting there with a bucket over his head about to get water poured on him and you know says this apology to you and says uh you know because he said something about you saying it was a bitch move, which he was just talking off the top of his head is what he said. And he goes, where I come from, we just talk that way. And what was your response? I was like, where I'm from, people get knocked the fuck out because they answer stuff like that.

I know people from New York. I have people from New York. I'm certain that they were. I mean, hell, there were people from New York on the show. We was like, no, That's not how it goes That's like Como saying he's Italian And to get away with it No it's just a New York thing to call you a little bitch

It's New York You're acting like he's gaslighting you Was Chris at the Reunion that you guys all had We squashed it in In person I'm not one that necessarily holds at the reunion that you guys all had. We squashed it in person. I'm not one that necessarily holds on to grudges, but I also believe what people say.

When people are mad, they say what they mean. They've had that shit bubbling up. They've been off, and they just had an opportunity to do so. That's why I was just like, you know, I don't really care about that. But then you eventually accepted it? You accepted his Like, I don't really, I don't really care about that. It also eventually accepted it. You accepted his apology. I just kind of let it left it at that.

That kind of bummed me out, honestly, Josh, because you are a nice guy and you just seem like level headed and, and, and take people at their word. Did you just not feel like his apology was sincere? Because I felt it was. And then when you said, no, I'm, I'm good. I don't want to like accept what what was that for you like why for me for me um I think there were some guys who were you know who could have been like playing the game and who have been playing it up for cameras and everything I'm a pretty authentic dude you know I think that the way that I live my life you know has a certain

appeal to it but I'm gonna be me at the end of the day. And like, so cameras are not. And I said this, I knew it was going to get cut, but I told him, I was like, these cameras ain't going to save me, bro. Like, it's not, this is not going to, I don't care about any of this. Like, this is not, it's nothing. You disrespecting me on like a man to man level.

So he came to me off camera and was basically saying, like wanting to apologize. And I was like, nah, bro, the, the, the apology needs to be as loud as the disrespect was. Like you call me a bitch on national TV. Like you going to apologize on national TV like, wanting to apologize. And I was like, no, bro, the apology needs to be as loud as the disrespect was. Like, you call me a bitch on national TV, like, you're going to apologize on national TV. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. So that was really where it came from. All right. That actually makes sense to me.

I wanted to also ask you about, you don't seem like someone who would end up on a reality show. You seem like someone who would probably go, that's not for me. And I think a lot of people listening to our show would say the same thing about themselves. I would never go on a show like that. Speak to those people. What made you do this? And would you do it again, knowing what you know? Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm somebody who's open to experience.

You know, I travel a lot. I try to challenge myself to get out of my comfort zone and so when this opportunity came up you know this isn't the first time that i've been reached out to by you know reality uh tv franchise and so but i hadn't this was the most intriguing opportunity and i feel like i was in like the right the right place in my life to be able to like take advantage of it yeah and it was it was cool man i definitely thought it was fire fest when i signed up not gonna lie the food the food was similar but then uh you know the beds were better at fire fest the entire body um but when i got there and i said this on uh sorry for the shameless plug but i said

this when i spoke when when I was on, on my back podcast, the travel guys, I was like, travel guides. G U Y D E S is Josh's podcast about your travels. Various different, different destinations,

you know, different travel hacks, how to travel for cheap, you know, and just like expanding your horizons. Well, I have a fun at the same time. Um,

but I was talking about the show on there and I was saying, when we showed up, it's just a meat market. Like, it's just like, it's almost as if people were cast to look exactly the same time um but i was talking about the show on there and i was saying when we showed up it's just a meat market like it's just like it's almost as if people were cast to look exactly the same like with you know with with some with some degree of diversity in there so i think to answer your question like yeah i would definitely do it again like it was cool we developed a lot of like it's a unique experience like it's definitely a mind fuck like they put you in like this this environment this ecosystem where things are being controlled and you're just like you know a pawn in it but you know you create lifelong friendships

and got a got an experience that most people don't get to have yeah a lot of people didn't uh well no one beside besides us who are there know this but when when greg was eliminated people were sobbing like you guys were all a wreck, everyone on the show. And they kind of cut around it. But that was what I was really moved by was not just like the Casey and Garrett bromance that we saw. But there were a lot of really deep friendships that formed on the show between the guys being in such close quarters, not having your phones, not being able to talk to your friends. Being in quarantine for two weeks being in quarantine where you guys were all in your individual rooms but your balconies kind of connected and that's the only place you could go and so you all like uh developed a friendship kind of before during

quarantine did you get to know each other so i think other guys did as well i i kind of got screwed in the whole like room selection situation like i was up in the corner but i was next to colin and um and new jared was down on the was down there so i mean but to your point like yeah it was all good like we were developing friendships i mean we're you know playing cash you're not supposed to like you're you know you're doing whatever you can to have some type of human interaction because you're in a you know 10 by 10 space for two and a half weeks like you're just trying not to go crazy at the end of the day i can't believe you guys uh because i brought andrew with me because i knew that it was going to be really i couldn't have done it alone and especially with not knowing

what you were about to get involved in because you guys didn't really know what the show was going to be i remember when those three girls came out you guys were like that's it like there was a lot of i think a lot of you thought it was going to be like uh just as much of a meat market as you had seen on your end of things uh when you're in quarantine seeing all these guys you're like there must be an equal amount of girls what would you say to someone about to go on a reality show that maybe you wouldn't have known going in? A piece of advice. So I do want to say I was prepared for either scenario because in the worst of scenarios, I thought it was 50 guys and five girls.

I was like, because I was trying to do the math. When we came in, I was like, hold on, there was another bus with all these people that came in. I was like, there's a thousand percent 50 dudes on here. I didn't know that those dudes were cast as well, but our crew as well. A piece of advice, there was some F boys on the crew too. Um, I think for, for, for folk that are going, thinking about going onto a reality show, I, I would just, honestly, I think the best piece of advice is just to like, be open to the experience.

Like if you give yourself to the experience and like, like, the people who fought it, I think were people who, you know, who didn't make it far or who didn't make it on the show. And I think, you know what I mean by that. And so, but I think- I don't. What do you mean? There were some other cast members that did

that we don't know anything about. Oh, right, right, right. Well, you know, you don't know what's gonna happen on the island. Someone might test positive for COVID. Like you don't know what's gonna happen. Someone might get sick right. Well, you know, you don't know what's going to happen on the island. Someone might test positive for COVID. Like, you don't know what's going to happen. Someone might get sick. And they had, you know, replacements just in case that happened. And some people actually had to be replaced that were supposed to be main cast members

because they just, they got too big for their britches too early and were too demanding. And it's like, you got to understand, understand like you're in for a ride and you signed up for not knowing where this is going to go and you have to trust and and just I think you really have to know yourself to do a reality show and be okay with the worst sides of yourself coming out because they will come out like Josh did you find watching back on the show uh that you saw a side of yourself that you go I wish I would have like held that in? Was there any moment that made you go, Oh, I didn't know I talked like that, or looked like that or said that or were you pretty like, Oh, this, this is me. It was kind of the kind of the opposite. I think the I think the biggest thing for me, like just speaking candidly, I think a lot of like my

personality, like the, the be fun and exciting. And you know, that like the the daring part of my personality was kind of like cut out which i understood from like uh from a storyline perspective and kind of like you know what what the overall narrative was but i think that anybody who has already been following me on on socials or who i know in real life like they know they're like i've gotten several messages they're like well when are they gonna show they're like what is this and so i was like i i understand that um but i think to your point like with the with a piece of advice I think like a lot of guys came on there they knew who they were going to be

on the show right and when I showed up I was just like okay I'm gonna see the environment and then I will adapt to there okay when I saw the three girls it was like okay I talked to Sarah talked to Nakia talked to CJ like got a feel for how they were. Like I'm somebody who can flex to whatever situation I'm in. Were you really, are you, let's talk about Sarah for a second because you did just post on your Instagram story a selfie of you and Sarah. I'm guessing it was in LA. You just saw her.

What's going on there? I mean, that was honestly the first time. We had talked on the phone and whatnot, like since the show had aired. But that was the first time. Did you talk before then? Yeah, we had talked before then. OK, OK.

This was the first time that we had seen each other in person since the show. I missed her once when we were both in Chicago, like shortly after. And then we missed each other in another place too. So we were able to actually talk. And it was a little bit meatier of a conversation just knowing that the show had already gone like all the episodes that aired we had seen how it was going i think like when

you're playing it back you can you you it puts you back on the island you know it puts you back in the in the scenario so you're thinking like okay this is what was actually happening especially knowing that we had you know hundreds of hours of footage that like got condensed down. And so I think there was, there was definitely some conversation going on, but it was good to see her. You know, I have nothing but love for Sarah and, you know, I wish her the best.

Is there any chance that that flame will spark up again? You know what I mean? You never know. We'll see. We'll see. I think we'll try to be in the same spot a little bit more. But I will say there were several responses to that picture that I put up. I bet.

I freaked out today. Stay away. Like, it was definitely a lot of balance there. Right. Now, have you forgiven her for choosing Garrett over you? Yeah. I mean, you know, I don't doubt her ability to choose. And, you know, the hard ones were the hard ones.

All I can do is be me at the end of the day, and, like, it was her choice. So if I wasn't suitable to her choice, then, like, so be it. You know, there's someone out for me. I think what – I don't know if you remember, but when we were – after I had been eliminated and you were asking, like, you know, what do you think? I was like, you know, I'll be all right. You know, I and you were asking, like, you know, what do you think? I was like, you know, I'll be all right. You know, I got a lot going for myself.

You know, I'm handsome as hell. And, you know, I'll be okay. Hey, you're 6'2", 220. I mean, you're going to be good, man. I mean, you know, it's all right. We heard your abs are popping through more than ever. Yeah. You got a nice smile.

I like how she was asking you your favorite, like, your favorite physical attributes. You guys both asked that. I thought it was an interesting question because people don't often get to say that about themselves. And you said, I got a great smile and my abs. She cut you off. She cut him off, though. He was going to say another great thing about himself.

I mean, he could have kept going, but I like that she just skipped over the smile. My delts are good. My shoulders are solid. My calves are lean. You got to work on your temple, you know. Yeah, you are such a humble, sweet guy. And everyone loved you. I have to say from, you know, everyone on the show, like all the crew,

everyone had great interactions with you. You were kind to everyone. You were always just, I was never scared about there was a certain part of me that was scared of the anger from certain guys if they got eliminated or if things in the show changed in a way that they didn't want like when I the double elimination when I had to kick Casey off I was so scared he was gonna like yell at me or something like I was I was not uh as confident as some people might have thought and i never worried that about that with you because you just like you said you're gonna be fine either way and you just i thought and the moment where uh welcome tried to like

throw you under the bus about having notes in your hat and i instantly was like who cares if he had notes each honestly it's it's benefit everyone should have notes in their hat it's like yeah i thought that was a good move yeah when that's your least that's your worst quality you'll be okay in life you know why are you single though josh what why are you um also he probably has you know new or og jared 1500 dms. I would argue that Josh probably has more DMs than O.G. Jared by far. O.G. Jared is... Not even close. And look at him being modest.

His DMs are going wild. You can tell by the look. When I put out the question of what do you guys want to know about FBoy Island, so many people were like, how do I get in touch with Josh? What's going on with Josh? It's almost better to lose, man. I'm telling you.

I know. I think so. I would love to be the biggest loser on a show like that. It'd be the best thing. I'm not saying you're the big, you know, you're six two. You're not.

I appreciate that. No, you, why are you single though, Josh? Why is a guy like you that knows what he wants, you know, successful man,

great smile, abs, yada yada um why are you single um well first thank you for the comments i do appreciate that and i enjoyed everybody else who was on that who was on the cast and crew also so it was very very genuine and reciprocal there good i will say you know i think i'm some i mean again not that it came it didn't come through on the show necessarily but but I'm someone who keeps it moving. I enjoy an adventurous life. I will drop every day. I enjoy a certain level of stability. But on the other hand, I will sell all this shit and move to South Africa tomorrow. So like there is like there is a there's a variance there that throws a lot of people, to be all the way honest.

And so I'm not somebody who believes that you should have to settle down and look for somebody who will settle up to me and we can like just roll together you know um and so i think that that's you know it gets into i think that's that in short that is the reason i just have not seen a person who has like you know who wants that the same things well i think now i'll go to south af Africa with you tomorrow, bro. You're wonderful. You're wonderful. I love your beard, too, bro. Get in there. Yeah, you shaved yours.

I did. I can't wait to get that thing off my face, man. For continuity purpose, I switch it up. Like, it just depends on what it is. And when I filmed the, we got halfway through, I was like, man, I need to shave. They were like, no, no, you can't. You have to keep that five weeks of your life. And I was like, I know you need to shave. They were like, no, no, you can't. You have to keep that five weeks of your life. And I was like, I know you can't. I know.

That was wild because all the interstitials, you know, all the interview pieces, you guys would have to change back into that same outfit to do those interviews, right? Because they got to keep it the same. I haven't been able to wear it since. Like, I've retired it. Oh, yeah. I'm sure putting that on was, just such a drag every day it's like getting dressed in clothes that after a hookup that you find on the floor you gotta like

dress like a like in a tight little skirt in the morning and you're just like oh um so like and then you're just taking it off and putting it back on there just giving a little air dry it's not it's not the best yeah there's a lot of like little secrets to these shows that i realized that you once you see it you're like oh yeah of course because the this this moment where they're all you cut to them sitting in a chair talking about the the moment you're watching where you have to phrase everything like so when sarah and i are so sarah and i are in this cave or like how do you have to phrase it you have to say say like, like you're there. Yeah.

It's like, they're like Sarah and I are talking about something like, and Sarah's looking really good right now. And everything has to be like, you're right. Like you're in the moment. It's, it's hard to like,

do you still find yourself narrating your life that way? I will say it may be a much better speaker, like being cognizant of it and understanding that, like, you want to get this on the first take and like be able to go this was honestly like a wild like i learned so much from from you and from like all the cast and crew just in terms of like how to make a show and everything goes into it and so i've basically been ruined to where like well i can't watch tv without having

like a critical eye i'd be like i know what they're trying to do right there. Like I get the game. You're absolutely right. It does ruin TV and movies for you a little bit. But you know what? I found that I thought it was going to ruin reality TV for me and I could never watch it the same way. And now it didn't, thank God, because I do love reality TV and I love people like yourself who are open themselves up to,

you know, not knowing what the hell this is going to be and walking away from your life. And like you said, you're an adventurous guy, which I want to talk about. You have a podcast about traveling called Travel Guides, G-U-Y-D-E-S. What do you do for a living? I'm a brand marketer by day, but I'm a serial entrepreneur. So you can just travel. I'm going to finesse something. I'm gonna make it work. You know, like that's just kind of how I've always lived my life. I'm a weekend warrior.

So I'm good for, you know, jumping down to Belize or Costa Rica for like four or five days and coming right back and just like picking up seamlessly. Okay. Tell us one place we all need to go before we die. And also, I want a good travel. I'm someone who travels every weekend for work. And I want to know a good travel tip, especially international travel, because it really intimidates

me. Customs, I always feel like I'm somehow smuggling heroin, and I get so nervous that I don't – who knows? I could. There's been a lot of things up there before. Maybe stop bringing heroin? Yeah, that's a good point. That could start.

That could be a good one. Well, I had to smuggle sex toys into the Caymans unknowingly. I didn't know that was a band there. Weren't you sharing? Yeah, I was sharing. I gave them out. I was washing them off and doling them out. I still, I want them back too.

But yeah, tell us where to go and a travel tip maybe that we wouldn't know about. I would say one, every Thanksgiving, I do like a big group trip. I'm trying to figure out what it's going to be this year. I'm leaning towards Peru and the Galapagos Islands. But one year we did Israel, one, every Thanksgiving, I do a big group trip. I'm trying to figure out what it's going to be this year. I'm leaning towards Peru and the Galapagos Islands. But one year, we did Israel, Palestine, Egypt, and Paris. And the Palestine-Israel piece was wildly interesting.

Because from a biblical perspective and also from a current events standpoint, you actually understand everything that's going on and the history of it. I will say that beyond that, Egypt was a place i've been waiting to go for forever to see like the sphinx and the pyramids and and all that in person king tut's tomb um it was it was very dope uh so i would say egypt is probably where people need to go just to understand like the origin of civilization and everything yeah i would say it's big enough in person yeah it's crazy like when you and then you think about them not being able to do it modern technology is like it's not like

mount rushmore where you go this yeah yeah i just always yeah okay and then travel tip travel tip everybody needs global entry bro yeah and tsa doesn't even have TSA pre this guy you're wild it's the it's the best hundred dollars you will spend okay so global entry that's gonna you're absolutely right that line is never has anyone in it it's the clear of international travel okay and I'm gonna do it more VIP when you're when you're traveling and when you're coming back in but if you don't mobile passport is another good app to have where you can like skip the line as well. Well, these are great tips. And for more of those and more of Josh McDonald, check out his podcast travel guides. G U I D E S. I'm guessing you can find it anywhere on any podcast app and where, what is your, I always just type in Josh and then your thing comes up,

but it's not your name. What's your Handle so people can follow you and DM you Yeah so I definitely would I can you can find Me on Instagram and Twitter at GQ 50 On TikTok at Josh GQ 50 and I Just joined Cameo which is like a whole new New thing I don't know if you're already on there but it's like

My price is a thousand dollars because I just didn't want to Do them anymore because they were just coming in Too hot and I got overwhelmed and now People think I think I'm too cool But it's like I just didn't want to do them anymore because they were just coming in too hot, and I got overwhelmed. And now people think I'm too cool, but it's like I just know no one would pay that, so I just want a break. But, yeah, you're on Cameo now too. It is very interesting. A lot of the guys are on there, and so when they were talking about it,

I was like, okay, we'll see what's going on. Some of them are eating, but I'm new, and it took off pretty quickly. Josh, we're about to interview Garrett. Tell me one thing. Why? What? I like Garrett, too. And I have to constantly defend that I like him and that he's someone that I would like to be friends with, even knowing that he what he's done.

What's something? Why do you like Garrett? Because now I feel validated that someone like you also likes him. I will get I'm going to keep it 1,000 with you. This is how I feel about Garrett. I feel like Garrett has a way that he wants to be perceived, and I think that he puts that out into the world. And I think that that's what a lot of people get.

And he is, like, boisterous. A lot of times you know we are kind of two sides the same coin just we just go about it in different ways uh i will say that well he's a he's a he's a really nice guy when you get to when you get to know him and guys interact with guys differently than guys interact with girls so like that's just that i'm seeing a different side of him um you asked earlier why we were able to like get along on the show. Cause he kept, he kept fucking up.

So like, I didn't have to, I didn't have to talk bad about him, you know what I mean? But then he had a historic comeback at the end, you know, obviously. So that was why I was like,

I didn't need to kick him while he was down. I think he benefited from having the last date. I think whatever the last thing is, you kind of go, that's... Casey had the last date. Yeah, I don't know. I think that there was something about that. But Josh, thank you so much. We got to interview Garrett now, and we don't want to keep him waiting. I'm terrified of him.

But you were amazing. I'll see you soon, hopefully. And thanks for just really representing the nice guys on the show in such a real authentic way. You're you're you're a real dude. I appreciate it. Can't wait to see you in November. Yes. See you then.

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Garrett. What's up, Nikki? Garrett. Oh, my God. Man, you're our headliner guest for good reason. You are iconic, controversial. I mean, people either love you or hate you or both. And I just want to ask you following the finale

of f boy island how are you and um uh are you are you okay are you talking to people are you like you know specialists are you processing your feelings because you're getting you're getting a lot of hate and whether it's deserved or not like that's a lot to take on i'm guessing like people are probably being mean to you uh yeah you know i think the first well that thursday when we had the last drop my parents already watched everything and i didn't because casey was over my place so i watched the first two episodes of that last drop and my dad calls and he's like yeah garrett you know not a good look man not a good look so and that's whenever we went that's whenever we went to like david she had like a birthday party yeah so at the birthday party my dad's calling me i'm talking to him while i'm there and then all of a sudden i was

like just stream line after stream line after stream on dms from like again all of like the uh little trolls out there and that's when i was like oh shit so i left the party and actually came home to watch it yeah and i think it was like that first day of watching it where i was just like ah shit like definitely definitely didn't look that didn't get the best cut on that one um tell me though what what did you think was, what did you, between the end of April when we shot that last episode and it airing last Thursday, the finale, because that's the one that really sealed the deal for you. Were you worried about anything? Were you kind of preparing for, like, you know, hunkering down, taping up the windows ready for the hurricane of hate that was going to come your way? Because you knew what you did.

Yeah, I knew what I did, but I didn't think it was going to be like that. Again, I was like, alright, it's a competition dating show. The whole thing was you have to hide that you're an F-boy. It was very clear from the start what I was. The first thing Sarah said to me, whenever I initially went and talked to her, and I had that first date

in a little club VIP area, she literally was like, you're wearing ripped jeans. You look like a fuck boy. I was like, all right. So, I mean, I was kind of outed off rip. And then, yeah, I mean, definitely wasn't really prepared for the hate. I would say more like I was like, all right, cool. Like I won the show.

I did what I did. God, I think I did more work in therapy on the response that Garrett would go through once. Cause I was honestly worried about you because I go, this is a guy that does not, you know, I, I always liked you.

And I, I even advised Sarah that I think she should pick you because I believed that you really liked her. And I think you actually did. I don't think that was bullshit. I think you just, in the end think that was bullshit I think you just in the end wanted to play the game and chose the game over a girl but were your feelings real for her absolutely I mean I was just with uh Sarah not too long ago so what oh yeah the TMZ article

came out this morning at 8 a.m. we got bombarded at Air One yesterday with Greg, actually. Wait, you, Sarah, and Greg went to Air One together? Yeah. And wait a second. That's like a high-end grocery store for those of you who don't know in L.A. Are you and Sarah, like, talking? What's going on? We're definitely trying to hash out some things.

Has she forgiven you? Did you apologize? Like what was the fallout? What, what happened after you left the island? We'll get to right currently and TNZ. What happened when you left the island? We want to know.

Cause I remember leaving that night, the villa after you were, after you chose the money over Sarah. And by the way, how, okay. I'm going to, I have a lot of questions. First off, how, watching it last night, Garrett, I had to fast forward through it because it was so awkward for me

because I knew what was going to happen. How did you give that monologue about wanting to kiss her in the morning and eat cold pizza? How, I knew, I know that that was sincere. Like, did you just have to like knowing what because you knew what you were about to do how did how did you do that how were you able to be so sincere and and say that to a girl and then know that you were just about to like

really devastate her and did you think that it was going to devastate her or did you think she was going to understand like what was going through your mind all right so obviously you know you have we had that last date that 24-hour mega date yeah and that was like you killed it on that yeah that was the first time that like from that date and then like spending the night we got to talk in bed like off camera um pretty thoroughly and pretty pretty like really in depth. I mean, we were up till like, I think like 5 a.m. that day. So that's whenever we started talking about like, I don't know, just like just shooting the shit,

like just normal stuff, like, you know, stuff just like, you know, again, we were talking about like, all right, like just like cold pizza, like all this like random stuff. So that last speech was like kind of all subliminal messages because that was all off camera. So she- No, I had a feeling those were things you had talked about and inside jokes because she was sitting there going like she was smiling and

like almost getting like emotional like oh this guy's referencing these little things we talked about i i knew that okay so how could you take those and then flip keep going walk me okay so you know we have you know probably like a day i don't know like 12 hours before we have you know the finale and everything like that. I think the biggest thing for me at that moment was the fact that, like, I'm not good at, like, it was like the entire time in the doghouse. And then, you know, I get this amazing day with her. And then I'm also not good at sharing someone. So I think for me, I was just sitting there and I was like, OK, well, like, do I want to, you know, try to like fake some relationship after?

And in all my interviews, I was even saying, I was like, you know, if I get picked, like, you know, I'm going to take the money and then I'm going to give her 60, 40 because I left there 60, 40, still fuck boy. But, you know. All right. Yeah, yeah. So I was like, all right, I'll give her 60%.

I'll take 40 and then she can take me on a date and we can see if things, you know, actually like really spark, you know, outside of the show. That opportunity obviously didn't happen. But I think in that moment, for me, it was like, man, like, kissing, like, another person, hooking up with another person, and then, like, it was just so much confusion in my head. And I was like, do I really want to leave here and be like OG Jared?

And they go, yeah, I'm in love with you um so at the time I think it was more or less just like I don't want to try to fake something when I don't know if this is real or not all right I mean that that's real good yeah I mean I and I felt the same way you know I hate on these shows when people are forced into proposals when it's just really like, all I want you to say is like, you like each other and you're willing to give this a shot that it doesn't have to be this like love thing and the fireworks and everything. Like agreeing to date someone off of a show is,

is big enough for me. But I think you're right. Like she, she's these girls both spent the night with guy. I mean, uh, Nakia made, what's his name? what's his name, Nando sleep on the cot. But Sarah and CJ both spent intimate moments in bed. We don't really know what happened.

But she's in a bed with another guy the night before you, and then you're supposed to just go all in on her. And yes, that's the name of the game. And we don't need to be like oh what a slut or slut shaming that's the way you play the game but that i think that's smart to not want to go all in i guess we're what was that first conversation with sarah like after the elimination and who reached out to who how did that go down okay um actually later that day so i have multiple phones uh three phones actually we knew you had three phones you where are you keeping these phones that was phone gate was a whole other side of the show that didn't come out when everyone was like garrett's got a phone

there's they're talking they're texting at night and they were they searched your cabin like you know it was a jail cell they're looking for you know contraband but they could not find your damn phone where did you hide those phones um so in one of jared's scarves no one wanted to touch those they were pretty sweaty so i wrapped i wrapped it up in jared's scarf and there's these little like pockets in the remote suitcases that you can like like rip down and i put them in there uh and then I had another one that was hidden somewhere else I actually got one of my phones confiscated but I never used my phone when I was there it was actually just uh I would just give it to my boys uh Casey or other people when they needed to uh you know rub one out in the bathroom um they love technology yeah was the phone even on just the idea of like holding a phone again made them hard

literally how did you feel when gary oh sorry sorry sorry when casey oh yeah no i was just gonna say so after that like after the finale after everything like that you know we had a couple days and they came out just to kind of like chill out um and i dm'd sarah because we kind of like all got our phones back and then later that night i actually snuck out because they were staying at the moritz that night which is like you know i don't know a couple hundred yards down so i snuck out and like i like went and we had like a full-blown conversation uh that night so um and then everyone was trying to find me from production and I was like

hiding underneath the bed they all came in the room like full-blown like I we gotta kick everyone out they kicked out Casey out of CJ's room and Jared so Casey and Jared were still going for CJ after everything it was the worst thing ever yo Jared was throwing rocks at CJ's window wait wait, wait, wait. So after the elimination, I didn't hear any of this. After the elimination, you guys are in the Caymans for a couple more days. You get back your phones.

So she let Casey go. We saw there was still some sparks there. Jared comes and is throwing rocks. How did this all happen? Walk me through this. So I DM Sarah. I was like, yo,

me and Casey are to come over and they get CJ there. And she was like, yeah, but like new Jared is, you know, like trying to come over to CJ or not. And mind you, like they were both seat Casey and Jared were trashed at this point.

So they were both drunk, like walking on the sand, like trying to get through feet getting wet. I mean, there's production everywhere. So it was like full blown. Like I remind me of like a little kid and we were like going to egg houses and stuff like that. It's fun.

Yeah. It was like devil's night all over again. So like, you know, we're like sneaking it out. We saw the vans everywhere. We snuck up to the rooms. We asked what rooms they were in. And yeah, I mean, she opened the door. I went in and then uh because jerry was

throwing rocks outside like i'm an idiot like obviously obviously production he's got a good arm too yeah he's good honestly at one point he was throwing rocks so hard i think he's hitting the wrong window at one point and then he's throwing a stairs room we come outside and like bro what are you doing and we just look out there's this dude behind like a tree just like like like super creepy and we're like then he smiles and starts chuckling and you can see his bright smile yeah it's like bro like come up here meanwhile he comes up to cj's and casey is in cj's room at this time they had like beef like there's just so much stuff that they almost throw down or no I mean, there were some words that were exchanged, and they were both drunk, too.

They were both more or less just looking at CJ like, bro, what's going on here? Pick one of us again. It's elimination all over again. Oh, my God. And then you're hiding under the bed. Who knew there was a show after the show? I didn't even know this.

So production leaves. You come out from under the bed, and you guys make up show after the show? I didn't even know this. So production leaves. You come out from under the bed, and you guys make up. Wait, so they didn't catch you? They were in the room, and you're under the bed? Yes. So there's three people that came in. I'm not going to list names, but they came in, and they looked everywhere. They were literally opening up dressers and stuff like that.

They didn't check under the bed. And then they left. And I was like, all right, let's go. You're such a big guy, too. Yeah, your feet are sticking out under it. They're like, oh, no, that's probably just a mannequin all right, let's go. You're such a big guy, too. Yeah, your feet are, like, sticking out under it. They're like, oh, no, that's probably just a mannequin under there. That's not. Oh, my God.

Okay, so you and Sarah patched things up, and she forgave you that night? Like, she heard you out and understood where you came from? Yeah, I mean, she heard me out, at least enough. Yeah. I mean, it was, I think that she handled it, I think we were watching last night and both agreed this all went the best it could for everyone. I think that, like, if Sarah would have chosen Josh,

she wasn't ready for that kind of relationship with Josh. It wasn't about, people keep asking me, why would she choose, like, why would you choose an F-boy when he says he's an F-boy? Because that is true. Garrett, you were always an F-boy. Like you kind of, you were at least, I almost say that the F-boys I trust more than the nice guys. Yeah, there's an honesty to it.

Not the way they portrayed themselves to the girls because you guys had to lie to the girls. It was kind of like part of the game. But the way that you were even admitting on camera that you were an F-boy, I was like, honestly, I trust them more than I do the nice guys. What proof do we have from the nice guys?

I need to see some evidence of what makes them a nice guy. And I wanted to even, I mean, next time around, I want to contact their exes and really do our research to make sure. Speaking of exes, why did you not delete those images on your Instagram of you and your ex

four weeks or something before coming on the show? It wasn't like normal photo. It was like a video. Yeah, you got a drone shot of you and your ex-girlfriend's ass embrace. Why would you not delete those? So if you look at my feed, just in general,

I have a couple other girls that are on my feed as well. And I think for me, the biggest thing when it comes down to that, I'm not the type of person who's in a relationship who's going to be like, you know, insecure that some girl

was with some guy. And also like, you know, they're pretty cool photos, not going to lie. And I think the biggest thing though is like, why would I erase certain memories and moments of my time that were special to me

for someone else's satisfaction? Because they were four weeks before you came on a show where you were looking for love, where you had to lie and say you were an F-boy. What about that? Yeah, but you know, I mean, we ended things and that's kind of how it went.

Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, what's going on with your dating life now, Gary? I have nothing to hide. What's up? I've surmised because people keep, I did an interview. I've been doing so many interviews with,

you know, real journalists who want to ask me about the difference between an F boy and a nice guy. And why do the girls after knowing he's an F boy still want him? And I just say, because we want what we think we can't have. They're dangerous. They're charming. I mean, you're you're all of those things. You're mysterious. You're also there's some kind of like weird honesty to you that, I mean, last night the quote that I want to play for everyone right now that you said

to when Casey threw you under the bus at the Mansplain and said that you were the one who told him that CJ was a glorified escort. You said that at the Mansplain. Later on, you go up to Casey and you're like, man, that sucked. Why'd you do that? And he's like,

no, it was a bitch move. You say, hold on, I have to just pull this out. I watched it so many times because I couldn't, it was so funny. God damn it, where is it? I filmed it. Well, what you said was, you said, dude, why didn't

you just blame it on Kevin? Why was you said um dude why didn't you just blame why didn't you just blame it on kevin why would you why was that you said it so sincerely too like man just say it was kevin smart though because of the helicopter thing but no one knew about that well there you go now he just made a great point right there i was the one who i wasn't the person who said that oh yeah what do you mean so i wasn't the person who made that. Oh. Yeah. What do you mean? So I wasn't the person who made that comment. Well, then why did he say it was you? Because he knew at that time that he had to blame it on someone who looked like they could,

who would like be able to take the blame. And he was like, you're a good person. I mean, we had a really big conversation after that. I was like, bro, you want to move with me, move in with me, bro. Like, I can't trust you. Like, you're just going to throw me under the bus like that, especially when this is something that I didn't say. Again, it goes back to the helicopter

thing. Was it Kevin who had said that? So supposedly whenever Casey was in Limbro, there were some words that were exchanged. Yeah. Okay. We'll leave it at that, I guess. Is Casey living with you right now?

Well, no, I actually checked in on this. Give us the update of Gacy. Your bromance. They go by Gacy. I think they should go by Carrot. Gacy reminds me of the serial killer. Oh, I was thinking two gay guys hanging out. Which actually is more fitting for your sociopathic tendencies

that everyone's been calling you out for. What's going on with Casey right now? All right, so Casey stayed here for like five days. It was one of those things after the show, he wanted to come out to LA. She was like, we had a great time to say the least. Tell me how many girls you guys banged together. How many Paris things were going on?

What's that called? Eiffel Tower. Yeah, did you guys answer be honest with me because you you were very honest your casting video is one of my favorites of all the sexual escapades you have you were like i take down two girls three girls four girls five you could have kept going um you said you were just you've done a lot of sexual things you're also a freak you also kiss when you would kiss Sarah you would grab her neck which me and my producer Noah were so turned on by we like felt we had to like we had to stop and go change underwear several times throughout

that episode because that was so hot is that a move Garrett do you do you do you know that girls like that and not all girls do I don't want to say that everyone should go out there choking women right away but it was a gentle it was a gentle touch but that was a that was a hot move well yeah I mean the first time I kissed her I didn't do that it was more the side of the face and then I think as you get to know someone you get to understand like as welcome would say there there's trigger points and things like that and how to touch someone what they're okay with I mean that's when you're going for the kill you know yeah it was

oh my god don't I felt a little weird with that yeah I got a gazey in my pants yeah this chair is gray easily gets um very little tell me Garrett you you I am a very sexually open person I was glad to

hear you kind of talking openly about sex before you and Sarah had even actually gotten into a bedroom together and I think you had kissed at that point but we were actually talking about on the show yesterday about when is it okay to start talking about like likes and dislikes in bed and I said I liked that Garrett brought it up and was like what's your favorite kind of foreplay and And didn't put her on the spot. I mean, you were just like very comfortable having those conversations. When did you start having sex and are you addicted to it? When did I start having sex? I actually, I'm not going to lie, the first time I lost my virginity,

it was from a girl who was like two years older than me. It was like seventh grade summer and at this seventh grade i didn't hit puberty and this girl me and my cousin actually we went to the uh the mall and that's whenever the malls had like the 25 cent condoms and me and him me and him me and him were always so competitive and it was my uncle's 50th birthday so we were like we go to the mall we're in erie pennsylvania which is like bumfuck nowhere and really trying to act all cool and stuff like that we're like yeah bro like so have you hung out with the high schoolers yet bro like have you drank yet we're like yeah man i drank not too long

ago this summer uh really yeah like there's gonna be some girls there too we're like trying to just like outdo each other even though neither one of us had drank neither one of us has had sex at this point and i actually got caught uh fucking a girl sorry having sex with this girl who was two years older than me by our parents and they caught us drinking really trying to figure out like who could drink more that night so we'd keep the bottle caps and put them in our pocket uh Meanwhile, we would take two sips of a Heineken and pour it out. I'd be like, all right, yeah. I just drank that one. Wait, how did you meet this girl?

Was she at the party? Yeah, so she was one of my cousin's friends. Okay, wow. I'm so glad that we're friends. Follow that. I thought I was going to stop at cousins. And I just. It is Gary, Pennsylvania or whatever.

I'm from West Virginia. I'm from Pittsburgh, not West Virginia. Okay. So you lost your virginity in seventh grade, which is very early. Then when did you start having, you know, like your Instagram, Garrett? Sometimes I just want to comment. How am I supposed to take you seriously? I mean, that's all I want.

Because you're such a funny guy that like actually has a good personality, I think. And is emotionally vulnerable I mean you cried several times on the show in ways that I thought were not staged uh did you trick me every time I cried every time I cried was was never staged they didn't show a lot of it uh but every time I cried and those were raw emotional feelings I believe you when you say that and I just have to take your word for it but I don't think anyone's that good of an actor but I believe you so what was I even getting at there? No the sex addict

do you feel like? Oh no no no but I was getting at the emotional side of you and then the Instagram post. Oh yeah the Instagram post you. The 9-11 one? I mean your 9-11 post do you remember this post? We were Garrett. We trashed you so hard back like I I couldn't look at it because

You can't find it. It's gone. Somehow. It's gone. You took it down Just like the towers took it down. I'm pretty sure I mean I remember posting that and like getting some serious hate from people that were high college And in my head at the time like I must have been so because I was a lot and like getting some serious hate from people that were in college. And in my head at the time, like I must have been so – because I was a lot different like five, six years ago. Yeah. I didn't give a shit about any – like I just like – You posted a shirtless picture, like a really artistic shirtless hot picture where he's wearing – you can only see like a little –

Was it black and white maybe? An inch of camo, of he posted a 9-11 tribute thinking about all the victims and the people who had fought for our freedom since then and a very sincere i'm not even there was no irony here and the reason why he was wearing camo he i think he even referenced i think he even hashtag camo and like, never forget. It was so funny. Garrett, I'm not even joking you. I liked you so much on the show.

Like I just was always like just very tickled by you. You always were just very, I feel like you, you were invested in the show, emotionally vulnerable at the same time. Like you would like to have fun. You would laugh at my jokes. You made me feel a lot more comfortable than a lot of the other guys did. And then I remember someone showing me your Instagram and I go, you have to put that away

because I hate that person and I like him so much. This does not represent him to me. Garrett, why are you, why do you post like that? Are you someone who like rents fake private planes to like take pictures in or is that real? No, that was a real one, my friend. That was the first actually private jet i ever went on it was from la to or it was from uh where was where were

we we don't care garrett it was it was from i think it was from nevada to um aspen that was the first private jet i ever went on it was actually a lot of fun my friend actually invited me okay so it wasn't a fake one because I know that some people buy those sets and just go and take pictures. But what is this Instagram persona? I feel like I want you to be I want to watch more shows with you on them. Yeah, let your abs down.

You're so funny. We just lost video footage of you. You're so funny and you say such ridiculous things. I want more of that on your instagram can i get more of that from you you know i just i just signed up for tiktok so uh okay i'll start sharing some uh my tiktoks onto my reels uh when it comes to like photos and stuff like that yeah i guess i i guess i need to step it up a little bit no it's just like be i don't want i

don't want you to try to be funny because you are, but I want you to just stop trying to be cool because you also are. You know, like, you don't need to try and, like, have these poses

and, like, these faces. Like, it's not you. I mean, maybe it is you. I don't... That's not what I want from Garrett Morosky. You are so funny. You saying,

man, why didn't you just blame Kevin for it was so... There's so many lines on this show that i have to watch again and again because i'm hysterically laughing at just the way you talk and how your bromance with casey was so funny because you were when you asked him to move in with you it was like it was a real moment i mean that was not that was not like uh you you're not you're not uh funny enough to write these things like like you're you

know what i'm saying like i know you're a calculated person but you write some lines for yourself that comedy writers couldn't even come up with so i want to see more of that from you it looks like me and casey might need a little uh little bromance show i mean it's like it's like polly d and vinnie but uh not as jersey sure as i would watch a spinoff of you guys. All I want to see is you guys bro-ing down and talking about your feelings. Because you're both willing to go there. When I talked to Casey and Limbro and did therapy with him, he was very vulnerable and open as well,

which I was shocked by because you guys are F-boys. And then, I don't know, when you cried on the show, I was moved by it. And when you, Oh my God, during the, um, the mansplain, you sitting there just looking shell shocked. I wanted to put like a blanket around you. Like you were a refugee. You look so there. I don't know why I like you so much. What is, what it is? What is it about an F boy that says he's an f boy where we girls and guys i mean i just got off the call josh was on the show he loves you and i go thank god someone else i trust likes garrett too because everyone's telling me how could you like garrett now these are people that have only watched the show and didn't actually know you and i i don't

know i what is it as As a guy, I think. Go ahead. Sorry. No, I just remember throwing the football. Oh, yeah. I wanted to bring that up. Throwing the football with you on the beach. I don't know if you remember that. It was one of the best days of Andrew's life.

But guys like other strong athletic guys. I don't know what it is. There's a confidence to him. He has a great arm. If you have a good arm you know it's pretty quick you're gonna want to be friends with him i don't it's guys are very simple like that you know what i mean you're definitely simple like that's like yo you can play cornhole and you're good at cornhole all right cool you're my best friend yeah yeah yeah i just want to

fucking i just want to hang out with you i want to smell you and that was the interesting thing that cj said about you we talked to her today too. She had said that, you know, she got mad at Casey for standing up for you so much. And she just, she didn't mind him being friends with you and living with you. It was about him saying you were a good guy. You can't say that. I mean that you get, but do you think you're a good person?

I think the reason why, again, I was, you know, Sarah kept me till the end and why, you know, people are saying that I'm a good person is because I am definitely the um i think the reason why again i was you know sarah kept me till the end and why you know people are saying that i'm a good person is because i am definitely the type of person who is rough around the edges but the second you can get inside i'm a giant teddy bear it's really hard for me to trust people because i have been hurt in my past and stuff like that uh a very generous person for the people that i like and i'm like very generous like above and beyond generous so i think that's why like again a lot of people still say good things about me uh i mean i really i was really friends with

every single person honestly on the show uh except matt and chris little fucking rat boys but besides them they are rat boys dude i still that's the thing though i still sit here and i'm like all right you guys you know you did your part i mean you had no game the end of the day, I still respect both of you guys as people. And like, you know, leaving here, I mean, you're still a little rap boys. What's one thing on the show that you wish they would have aired that they didn't? Chris's little penis, maybe. Oh, you, that was so mean. Yeah, that was bad.

I mean, that's the thing. Like, I got that line from casey like you know okay and casey got it from kevin yeah there you go no i mean i think the biggest thing that could have aired on the show which would have been uh i would probably say whenever i was on my hands and knees multiple times begging and pleading to the girls i can't believe they didn't air you getting on your hands and knees and asking. I mean, you took a lot of shit from Nakia and CJ. They would be so mean to you when you would show up.

Do you think they did that to not be too sympathetic for the character? I think they just didn't have enough time. I mean, they cut me yelling at Charlie. There were so many great moments where you go, how did that not air? And it was just, there was too much good stuff. But him begging like that proved to me like why he was still on the show like that was yeah it gave it it gave it context i know that um i know that there were some people that were upset about you know the the girls chose the way they chose because not just of what you saw on camera but what you didn't see and you can't say i would never have chosen garrett you don't know what it's like to be the girl that garrett has his

arm uh or his hand wrapped around her neck and is uh you know uh twisting around on that fucking thing on the ocean what was that you were great at that oh the little what is that i don't even know it's like a little hoverboard but with like jet i just know that every guy on raya is has a picture on one of those so i guess it's a thing that rich djs do um but garrett uh i'm not gonna let you go without uh answering if you and casey engaged in any sexual activity together or have engaged in any sexual activity together i am um someone who is a huge advocate of men uh joining forces to have fun with women i don't think it's a gay thing or like anything that so um have you have you and casey banged girls together at the same time uh i mean we've crossed swords for sure whenever we pee, like, you know, stuff like that. So you're peeing on women?

No, no, no, no, no. Are you R. Kelly-ing out there? No, whenever, like, you know, we go to the bathroom and stuff, like, he'll help me out. I'm asking you if you and Casey got into any – because I know you like having multiple partners. You've had threesomes, foursomes, fivesomes. Was there – did you and casey uh have you are you showing him your your ways because i don't think casey does that has the sexual escapades that you have in la back in ohio and i think you were like i can show you the world

and like took him on an adventure show you the world oh he's got a voice too. Garrett, what did you – is that a yes? Did Casey and you – I'm going to tell you this much. Casey stayed with me. I have never seen Casey on such a hot streak in my life. Well, you just met him, so that's not a crazy statement, but okay. No, after the show, I went out to Columbus, and I hung out with him for a little bit.

I did get to see another side of Casey as well whenever he was hanging out with the girl that he liked. Yeah, I mean, as far as us, you know, gay scene girls, I mean, I just have to leave you guys a little teaser on that one. But you know, Sarah's in LA. So, you know, that's not a good look for me. So, right. Actually, I was a good boy when Casey was here. So you're saying that you don't want to talk about dating other women because of maybe something that might be happening with Sarah. So you and Sarah possibly aren't done yet. And she would maybe be sad hearing that you would hook up with other girls,

which you're not saying you did, but with the status of you and Sarah right now, she would not be happy to hear about other girls. There are certain things that I can't say that I would love to say right now. Like these suitcases that are in my place right now. But. Oh, where is she? She's right there.

She's behind you. Explosive. Is she under the bed, you motherfucker? Check under the bed. She wrapped up in some scarves. Okay. Well, that's all we need to know. Thank you so much.

I want to throw a rock at the computer. Well, let's all we need to know. I want to throw a rock at the computer. Well, let Sarah know. I told CJ to tell Sarah that we'll be in touch soon to talk to her about her experience. But I guess I should tell you to let her know. And I bet she could probably hear me. Hey, Sarah. Sarah. Hey, Sarah.

Josh says hi. CJ says hi. You looked adorable on the show. You carried yourself so well. You are a stunning, smart, beautiful woman. And I look forward to seeing you on the Gacy spinoff. Spinner. I'm sure she's, yeah, she's taking a trip to the Eiffel Tower this weekend.

In the private jet. You flew her there. Garrett, thank you so much for your time and for being so candid. We love you. F-boy, F-bye. All right. Bye, guys. Thank you so much.

Bye, Garrett. Oh, boy. Final thought. I mean, we're not going to ever beat this pod. I mean, this was unbelievable. Garrett is. Do you see why I like Garrett? Stop coming at me about Garrett and how. How could you like him?

Nikki, how could you have stood there and let that happen? Did you know he was going to do that? I didn't know it. I trust Garrett. I want to be friends. I want Garrett in my life because that's hysterical. He just gave us stuff that he probably wasn't supposed to give. I didn't know it. I trust Garrett. I want to be friends. I want Garrett in my life because that's hysterical. He just gave us stuff that he probably wasn't supposed to give.

I'm honestly going to have to check with producers to make sure that any of that stuff can actually make it, and I won't have to cut some stuff out because let's be honest, guys. I want to make season two because you know what? Today, season two, FBoy Island was announced. It is happening. Stay tuned for all the details. But today it was announced that HBO max has picked up F boy Island for season two. And I just want to thank all of my besties for supporting and watching the

show reluctantly getting involved and then loving it so much. Noah, tell me the big takeaways you've had from today as being a huge fan of F boy Island. The first thing about garrett um i think the reason why we were all kind of rooting for him and attracted to him even though he was telling us the whole time that he is an f boy the whole time is because he is so candid and he's so honest and you just have to love that i want to have him on again because I wanted to talk to him about, he was like adopted from an orphanage in Russia.

Like he has, he has, you know, when you come from, first of all, orphan, I don't want to, you know,

say anything that didn't happen to him because I want to get his experience. Not that he remembers as a baby, but those babies don't get touched a lot. It's often that they have developmental issues later on because they don't get cuddled and touched. And a lot of those babies end up going on reality shows and becoming the villain. Omarosa.

I mean, honestly, she might have said, yeah, Omarosa, Juan Pablo, all Russian orphans. But, you know, there was something about Garrett's honesty with every person on the show, even him being able to say that Chris and Matt were little rats and just staying true to that. It's a quality I have to work on about myself where I want to give everyone in front of me what they want.

And I'm such a people pleaser. I want everyone to like me, even a villain. I'm working on a bit right now about how I have dreams that I'm nice to Donald Trump and I can't even when Garrett broke my girl Sarah's heart I walked out of there that night

I remember driving away I swear oh my god I went up well it was really interesting on the show because they kept me very removed from all the F boys and even the girls. Like what you saw on camera was kind of my only interactions with them. Except when the show ended, I was just like, fuck it. I'm going to go up to the guys and talk to them.

They were all kind of corralled in this area. It was I think it was Garrett, Casey. Yeah, it was all the final six. I actually think O.G. Jared wasn't there, but maybe I just didn't recognize him underneath maybe he had taken off his scarf and I couldn't recognize him he may have put an extra one on

he was wearing his own shoes so I couldn't I didn't know who he was but the thing I said to them I go and they all looked like kind of shell shocked I mean it was rough that finale as rough as what it was that what you saw it was very uncomfortable and it lasted really a long time. And it was it was a long, long night.

And and I just went up to them and I was like, Garrett, thank you for making this show amazing. I know you just took a lot of heat, but like you're very entertaining. And thank you for that and case you know i went up to all of them but i remember um just i remember garrett looked really sad afterwards like oh no i i hurt this girl but even even though i was mad at him and i was like how could you i was just like thanks for being you like yeah without that without gar, I don't know what that show would have been. Someone would have risen to... You need a heel, man.

Someone would have filled his shoes and it probably would have been OG Jared and he would have walked off with them. I don't remember what happened with the shoe thing, but I do remember someone saying, you borrowed my shoes, those are my shoes. And he goes, no, they're not. And I'm like, well, this, we have to,

there has to be an answer here that we could come up with right now. You can't, it was just so funny but um yeah I was uh I I there's something about these guys nice guys we just have to take them at their word but why would you say you're an f-boy if you're not an f-boy I feel like f-boys are actually the ones that are being the most honest I mean not to the girls on the show yeah because that was kind of the game but it was interesting when i did an interview with the i think it's coming out like today i i wanted to warn garrett that i compared him to trump but i did because you why why did trump win it's because uh and why how could you like him after the things he said the things we've

heard he's like the documentation the the bed of needles you know the bed of nails is like you can lay in a bed of nails but one would hurt or whatever Garrett kind of had that same vibe I don't think I would I would much rather the country be in the hands of Garrett than Trump because Garrett actually is like an animal lover at least you know I don't think Trump has ever like sincerely pet an animal and had affection for it but when he combs his hair good Trump burn you got him Garrett actually has great like Garrett's hair is what Trump thinks his hair looks like yes it's fantastic but it's just I just yeah people go why why would this guy last on the show so long and And I go, why did Trump win? People like someone with unbridled confidence that tells you who they are,

is honest all the time, insultingly honest to people. And there's something about that. I mean, Trump is not honest, by the way. Yes, that's what I was going to say. So I don't know if Garrett is actually being honest, but I feel like he is. But maybe I'm just another pawn in his game of checkers. I'm not even going to give it chess. I'll say checkers.

We got to go. This show was amazing. I think it's 4 p.m. now, and we started at 10 a.m. What a marathon. Thank you for joining us for this very special FBoy episode of the Nikki Glaser podcast. We'll be back tomorrow. I'm glad I booked the wrong flight because I think the show wouldn't have been as good if we did it yesterday. What do you mean?

Oh, no. We definitely needed. I'm so glad that you booked the wrong flight, too. Yesterday, we had... It all works out. Everything works out. We were at the baseball game last night and Andrew gets an alert on his phone that says... It's 8.15 at night. It says, you're playing flight 862 now boarding. Head to the gate.

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