The Nikki Glaser Podcast - Bonus! The Tortured Poets Department Gushfest Part III
Episode Date: May 24, 2024Nikki and Nour return to discuss more of The Tortured Poets Department album. They take a dive into the deep meaning of the songs, lyrics, and more. Exploring songs like "The Smallest Man Who Ever Liv...ed" and "Clara Bow". Who are these songs about?! Are those double entendres we hear?! You will want to continue to listen to this bonus episode, Swiftie Besties! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Nikki Glaser Podcast.
Hello, it's me. I'm Nikki Glaser. It's the Nikki Glaser Podcast Special Edition.
This is one that I would think if you're not a Swifty, you're probably not going to have a good
time. Or you might, it might be a case study of a Swifty if you're interested in how the brain of
a Swifty works.
But like, you gotta be on board, I think, to listen to this.
So I don't want any new listeners.
I know I have a lot of new Nikki Glaser podcast listeners.
I don't, if you are coming into the show
and you're like, what is this?
This is a Taylor Swift's
Torture Poets Department gush session
is what we've called them.
It is me and my friend Noor Hadidi,
comedian out of Toronto. Toronto or Toronto? You know what? I saw you online with something
like this and you got it right. It's Toronto. You got it right, Nikki. I never know if I'm getting
it right. It's one of those words that when I say it i kind of just guess 50 50 i know which options
i have um because there is a toronto there is a t at the end that i want to pronounce and i don't
like that you just blow through it it's not a it's a silent t it is the way you guys pronounce
it and it bugs me but i was corrected when i went to toronto that i'm saying it wrong but i also get
vegas wrong now that's imprinted in my head. Now I don't have to
think about it, but I used to say Vegas.
Oh.
And people called me out for it. And then I have a new
one which is encapsulate.
I now know what to do, but I never
knew until last night I finally was like,
Nikki, you need to look this up because every time you say encapsulate,
you want to say encapsulate.
Like I want to put a sh. And that is
not it. That might be the canadian way
you say it because you guys throw you encapsulate yeah yeah you it sounds good coming from your
canadian accent it sounds right but thank you well we might use that word today because we're
going to use a bunch of uh heady words as we make our way through torture poets part three
i had to we haven't done this podcast since before
the roast i think and before my life changed and i i'm so happy for you but i did miss you i was
like i want my friend back to send me back don't worry i know i really did yeah because we we just
send taylor swift memes all the time all day long like four at a time sometimes i'll come to like
eight and i just get like to walk like i do the thing to my friend Anya, who the besties know.
But and, you know, too, I do that with Anya where I'll give her like eight to watch.
And I'm like, this is overkill. But she does watch them all.
And yours, I go, I've seen a lot of them because I'm getting the same content.
But I have I've come across some really interesting things from you. And it's just so nice to have someone to send my interesting things
because here's something I just want to talk about at the top of the show.
I am jealous of people who have other Swifties in their immediate lives
that they can be in a car with and sing Taylor Swift 2,
who they can talk about face to face
because although I have someone in my life who is as big of a Swifty as me,
Nor, like we don't hang out enough to like really gush.
And that's when the times you've been on the road with me have been so special
because we just talk about Taylor the whole time and kind of anyone else in the
room is hostage to this conversation that gets really emotional.
And they laugh to themselves. They look at each other and laugh.
Like Anya and Matt will kind of look at each other like,
all right, they're going.
Nikki's like,
because we talk about her like she's our best friend
because she is.
But I just like,
I saw this.
Did you see the video of the two girls singing?
I guess they were doing the bridge
to the smallest man who ever lived in their car,
which has been my obsession this week
if you wouldn't ask what my favorite taylor swift uh torture poet song this week is it is the bridge
to the end of the smallest man who ever lived not even the first parts i just skipped i keep
i keep replaying the bridge but anyway they were singing it together and it looked so
much fun i want to sing that bridge with someone so fucking bad in person in real time
and i don't have that in my life there's no one who is going to learn that and i feel
like i feel really mad about it sometimes because i'm like i have this thing that i just kind of
share with people online and obsess over but like i want someone in person um i think i need to like
just bring like i don't have room for you on my shows a lot of time because I have too much openers, but I should just bring you to keep me company and be my Taylor Swift friend.
It's such a big part of my personality.
I feel like it's an important thing that I need in my life.
So can you move to St. Louis and just talk to me about Taylor Swift on a daily basis and come over and sing?
Absolutely.
Anything that gets me closer to Kansas City
is okay with me.
I know.
Wait, can we talk about Travis saying
that if he is ever roasted,
he wants me to roast him?
Nikki, I lost it.
Nikki, I lost it.
I lost it.
I couldn't believe it.
I wasn't surprised because I knew him
because I've worked on a show with him already
and we had a good rapport and I knew he respected me comedically.
So that didn't surprise.
And I had a good set and everyone was saying that.
But what he did for me is that if he ever does one, no one can like he's already booked me on his roast.
Yes, it's going to happen.
I don't have if he Travis Kelsey ever does a roast, which I think he's down to do based on him saying that I'm already booked.
Like I have a job waiting for me and I've never had that prior to a job even existing. But I was
just like that to me, there's some cool things that celebrities can do for each other or people
like just anyone can do for each other. And it's like saying, if I do this thing, I'm going to have
this person on. Like he just gave me a job and invested in me in a way that he doesn't even have
to follow through on, you know, but it's a nod of confidence in my direction. That's just generous. And I've gotten so many of those from
so many people who have microphones in front of their faces. So I want to shout out to Travis for
just being saying my name on his podcast is a nice thing to do in this business. And it was
coming from a sincere place because he's a sincere guy, by the way. I'm sorry. I'm just like on one
today, but I have so much in my heart and soul about Swift.
So things keep coming up and I'm like, ooh, this.
And I just have to say it before I forget it.
I saw, maybe I send it to you.
I don't think I did.
No, this was on Reddit.
So I didn't have an immediate like DM of you
because usually on Instagram,
if I see something that's juicy, boom, it's right away.
But Reddit's a little more complicated.
I should have sent it though,
but I'm glad I get to tell you now.
When she says in so high school which we'll get to today we might be all over the map because uh that's just the way this goes um and she says uh you already know babe
like you already know babe is through that whole thing did you see it yes that's something that he said yeah i know i know i found that out like yesterday
it's so fun to find it and someone found it in an article he did it i think at vanity fair
and he says you already know he says you already know so many times in it i didn't read it but
that's what i read the like the comments underneath it and people had read it and said
he says it a lot in the interview and oh my god i am just like it's the cutest fucking thing that
song is so cute i'm obsessed and you already know babe is like so i i can't wait to see a
compilation that someone puts together of him saying that like you know in interviews and stuff
and like i love the the things we're finding out about these songs four weeks and i think we are
five weeks into this album um and the stuff that's still being uncovered that she's giving us.
We haven't even gotten into ERA's tour.
Torture Poets Department.
I know.
I know.
I can't even.
I mean, it's next level.
Like, let's jump in.
Are you like, how are you feeling about it?
I love it so much.
At first, I was like, because I'm so used to just watching the heiress tour, it took me a while to realize that this was a new segment.
Like, I had to wrap my mind around it, if that makes sense.
Yeah.
And for some reason, I was fixated on the clothes.
Like, that was initially what I was, like, obsessed with.
Me too.
Me too.
Right?
And obsessed.
Love the skirt and the dress and the bodice.
Oh my God.
Obsessed with it.
And then I love it.
I love it all.
I mean, she just can't do any wrong to me.
I just, I'm obsessed.
I was surprised at some of the songs she chose because I feel like she chose these songs
before the album was out.
So she did not know what people were going to gravitate to.
You think?
Yes.
I don't know.
I mean, she had four and a half weeks to get these things choreographed.
She probably knew three days in what the hit songs were, right?
Oh, from release, you're saying?
Yes, from release. She has three days in what the hit songs were right oh from release you're saying yes from release she
has three days now i'm not i'm saying like this girl knows what like she knows what she's doing
so i wouldn't of course she's probably like had clear favorites but i have 31 songs to nail this
many prior to the album coming out doesn't seem likely to me and it's not because she's not a
genius it's just as like she is i think she's giving the fans what they want and she waited for our reaction because that's enough time to choreograph
this even though it is so well choreographed and it is so she is so on point and it is the i think
it is the maybe it's because it's newer but i think it's the best era really of the tour and
i've seen the tour 12 times have not seen this. So it could be based on the fact that it's just new to me.
But I love the transition to So High School from But Daddy, I Love Him.
The only thing that I'm looking for that I was disappointed in, but actually I think I'm starting to really like it, is, you know, we talked about But Daddy, I Love Him, where she's like, I'm having his baby.
No, I'm not.
Boom. That part where it goes, boom. I want like, I'm having his baby. No, I'm not. Boom.
That part where it goes boom.
I want like a big moment there.
But so when she's walking it, she goes,
I'm having his baby.
And then she turns around.
So I'm not.
And then she turns back around on boom.
And it's good, but it's not.
It's not.
I wanted a really big moment in that.
But then I actually, then she does.
She, you know, if you've seen the transition
from but daddy I love him into high so high school it keeps going like I'm having his baby no I'm not
and then she twirls her hair and starts getting into so high school and then she walks forward
and then she walks over to the bleacher and then I love how they didn't really see so high school
coming the crowd at least yeah because it it perfectly transitioned she's like i she's like she just goes i feel so
high school and you like hear them on the high they know it they didn't know it from the first
like note she that was probably so fun for her to be like what are they gonna do when they first
hear it um so that's a fun moment to watch for me i love the stairs on so high school and you sent
me i did not realize this the bleachers yeah the bleachers on bleach school and you sent me i did not realize this the bleachers yeah the bleachers
on bleachers and you sent me this incredible photo of like how the moves from so high school
are from her at the games yes so at the very end because i've watched the choreography a bunch and
i'm like where are they doing this moment where they're all one is pointing one's going oh the
other is like they're all all of
her dancers are doing different movements right like kind of like poses like pointing towards
the field or whatever and i'm like at what point does this happen it happens i believe at the end
at the very end she's like you already know babe and then they all hit it because during the thing
they have a great dance i'm so into uh you know how to ball, I know Aristotle.
Aristotle.
And she does that roll forward.
How fun is that?
I love her choreography.
As someone who isn't the strongest dancer,
I feel like if I work very, very, very hard,
I could learn some of it.
But she is an amazing dancer.
I am so in awe of how far she has come on this tour
in terms of making these dances her own.
And she has her own style of dance now.
Like she has been dancing now for so long.
She hasn't been doing it as long as she's been playing guitar
or writing songs or singing,
but she is at the point now
where she is becoming a very good dancer
and very like in her, like just comfortable dancing.
And she's even made fun of herself for being an awkward dancer before.
And I have to say that has fallen away.
Like she is crushing these moves.
She is so on point.
I've been trying to learn the bridge to the smallest man who ever lived,
which is the song that is coming up next for us to dive into.
So why don't we just do it now?
Yes.
The smallest man who ever lived,
which I did not even realize was possibly a dick joke. for us to dive into, so why don't we just do it now? Yes, okay. The smallest man who ever lived,
which I did not even realize was possibly a dick joke
until so late.
Well, where she goes,
you treat her like an all-so-ran.
You didn't measure up
in any measure of a man.
In any measure?
I mean, she's at least saying it there
and and by the way this is actually good for like let's say it's about a guy with a micro penis
like literal micro i don't think that's what she's saying but let's say i have a big problem
with women making fun of men for having small penises and i don't think that's what she's doing
here because i think you can be in a relationship with a man with a small penis and have a more
satisfying sexual relationship than one with a big dick um i think it's what she's doing here because i think you can be in a relationship with a man with a small penis and have a more satisfying sexual relationship than one with a big dick
i think it's actually more likely that you will but um so i don't like small penis shaming but
i like this because if this is about someone who all a lot of the songs are about this person she
was desperately in love with and the the problem with the relationship was not possibly that he had a small penis so is if i was a man with a small penis and heard this song and was
like that's fucked up taylor's calling him a guy with a small dick i'd be like but she was madly
in love with that guy with a small dick and they you know what i mean so i kind of i like when
there's mentions of small penises in a way that's not disparaging right you're like it's part and
parcel of you it's not a reason why but it is it
could be it could be a reason why you are the way you are it could be because men are stigmatized so
much for small penises by society which is what i'm trying to like rally against they feel less
than and so they can have personality traits probably based on that but um i was like oh i
at first i was like i don't think this is
about as a guy with a small dick and then i read that line i was like i think it is and the smallest
man who ever lived is just it's such a great title it really is it's so it just is so evocative of
um the kind of person she's singing about she's not afraid to go there you know like
even now she does it with such grace but but she's like, this is the truth.
She's not afraid to cut you up, but she's like, dude, I mean, you got what you deserved.
I was inspired by her.
I think it was so opportune that this came out as I was preparing for the roast because I was like, she didn't fucking hold back at all.
Yes.
Like she just told the truth.
So if you just do that
and you can be vicious and adorable at the same time.
Yes.
And you were, Nikki,
especially when you would say sorry after,
like that was so endearing.
It was like so real and genuine.
That's honestly what I am most proud of myself about,
about this roast.
And I think that is the best choice I made.
And I didn't even make it as a choice.
That was not part,
I never did that during my sets that I was running it that was the only time I ever said
sorry because I really did feel sorry and it felt like okay I'm actually bringing more truth to this
moment by totally undercutting it yeah then I would if I was just hitting it so it um I was
glad I made that choice but I think that that's you know just as an artist finding ways fresh ways
to be authentic even though I'm like, oh, these roast jokes are real.
I'm saying the truth.
It's like, what's the real truth, though?
I have to say these people's faces and I feel bad about it.
Yeah, that's kind of the real truth.
So thank you for saying that.
I saw a clip of it and I didn't realize I did it.
I mean, I knew at the time I was doing it and I was like, oh, you're doing this new thing that you never did, but it feels right.
But then watching a clip, I was like, oh, that's really I come across as myself in this more than any clip I've
ever seen like that's real the real me is that person that was like I hate that I have to do this
so that was uh I was glad I made that choice so thank you for saying that okay the smallest man
who ever lived I have been trying to learn the choreography to the ending where she's marching where you're sent by
someone who wanted me dead do you sleep with the and i've learned all of the hand movements i've
learned where she gets shot i have learned where she gets shot again i have learned where she her
hand her um her feet her uh knees touch the ground where her hand then touches the ground
then she comes back up again and she's like, you kicked out the stage lights,
but you're still performing.
And then she falls.
Play inside, Shahid.
You are what you did.
I'll forget you.
And she is,
I love this version
because she is all over the map vocally
because she like will all of a sudden go like,
like the way she sings it on the album track,
I think she stays in that lower zone the whole time but when she goes there's maybe background vocals that are hitting
these notes but in the live one she goes and you'll confess why you did like in 50 years will
this be all declassified and you'll confess why you did it and And I'll say, good riddance. And she almost hits a different key on that one.
And then, but you won't, you'll slip through.
And then when she gets shot,
I mean, this performance is my favorite performance
since Britney Spears,
I Can't Get No Satisfaction, VMAs, 2000.
And then Lady Gaga's paparazzi, VMAs 2000 maybe nine or something I want to say
those two are my favorite live performances ever and then in in eras my favorite is the August
transition into it's um what's it called uh illicit affairs and then also um my tears
ricochet and if you want to know what the common theme to all of these are
is that she falls on her knees.
I love just collapsing in song
of like it being so emotional that you collapse.
It's so, it's so,
I've like never loved something as much as this video
and I keep watching, making people watch it
and no one is into it as much as I am.
And I can't even get people to
be as into it I keep going back like to find it I go back to our feed where I shared it with you
because as soon as I saw it I was like finally like a close-up angle that's the other thing can
someone get go to a concert I will pay you to go to a Taylor Swift concert with a and hold your
phone steady and track her in a way. Like people, I film her at shows
and I have to say I'm very good at it.
I'm very good at capturing.
I should put some of my stuff,
like I've captured some of the best closeup stuff
from fan angles that I've ever seen
because I watch it all.
And I need people to hold their phones
a little bit more steady for us.
When you are in a good position
to catch her going down that catwalk. And here's another tip. you're going to can i just give some eras tour tips please i was
just gonna make this a real even like put it out there eras tour tips for um filming you pick the
screen or pick her all right oh let's not go back and forth. And can I just say, when in doubt, pick the screen.
They're going to go off of her a couple times here and there.
Don't freak out and go back to her on the stage.
Just get it.
Now, if you are going to film her, which I do think you should if you're on the floor seats,
if you have seats that are, I would say, 25 rows back or closer,
go watch her from the film on the floor.
Hold your phone in a way that you're like,
okay, just steady with both hands and make sure that you put it on a mode. Actually,
you don't need both hands, but put it on. When you tap on it, make sure like you can toggle the
darkness and the brightness with a little sun. There's a toggle that you can go through the
whole thing, but I would just put it on kind of low after it gets dark because she's going to light up in the middle of
it then. And just
zoom in on her and hold it really steady. And if
someone's hand comes in front of your camera,
just
slowly kind of
try to find a way out of it. Don't just
immediately go like, oh, where is she?
Because you're so zoomed in that you're not going to find her
very quickly unless you keep it on her.
So that is just a couple tips.'m sure that that um and also um find one person like if i i've seen
eristore enough that i'm like when i go with people i go don't worry about filming her okay
like i got you i'll film all the parts you need to know just enjoy the show with your eyes you're
not going to get a better shot than me you're right next to me and i've done this a bunch of
times i know where she is on the stage i know where to get it so i suggest taking someone
like me that's obviously i'm joking um but this is a great service to provide people are you kidding
me i also think like you don't i would just kind of be in the moment and i would capture some
moments but like most of her has been captured from all angles and you don't need it but um i
would study if you have seats
where she goes what part of the stage she goes to for each song and when she's going to get closest
to you and just get ready for those moments so you're not constantly on your phone when she's
like you know not near you and and then you don't panic when she starts walking towards you i would
always i would panic and go like shit she's coming back and then i miss her even being close to me
because i'm pulling up my phone right so that's something I wish I would have done. But I really do need
people to shoot better footage of But Daddy, I Love Him and So High School and The Smallest Man
Who Ever Left. And I don't even know what the fuck is going on for the Poets Department
choreography because I can't find a decent video of that. The bed is tilted. It's moving around.
She's flying around. One of that hot dancer guy is like tilted.
I haven't really studied that choreography yet,
but it's so good.
What have been your favorite highlights
of the TTPD eras?
Oh my God.
That's a hard question, Nikki.
I love it all so much.
I love the Easter egg of how the bed
from Tortured Poets is kind of similar to the bed that she had in You Belong With Me.
I don't know if you saw that.
I saw that.
That was such a – sometimes I go, did she mean that or is that just like the same art director?
And they – like, of course she did.
Of course she did.
How much stuff do you think we're missing? I had a new thing occur to me the other night
because I think some stuff she doesn't know we're going to get,
so she hits us over the head with it.
But she only thinks that because she probably has tried to give us messages
that we've missed that no one's gotten.
And I was thinking, if I ever got, like, this is a question I'll pose to you.
If you ever got to ask her one question, she has to tell you the absolute truth.
I'll tell you.
And it's the secret you will keep forever. you'll like she can trust you with it what do
you want to know in the me music video why does the snake have its left eye crossed over and like
um shut wait in the what then the me music video yeah wait there's a snake in me yeah and then it
turns into a butterfly
in the beginning oh yeah yeah yeah okay yes no i haven't revisited that video in a while so that
snake's eye is visibly the left one is visibly like closed that's what you want to know sorry
is that crazy yes it's been driving me crazy for years okay okay that's good but don't you want to
know something juicier like what happened with you and whatever like But don't you want to know something juicier? Like what happened with you and whatever?
Like that's what I want to know.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Mine would have been,
if we're just doing like a Swifty like fan level,
like we're not allowed to know too much.
I want to know what the fuck question is about.
It's about Maddie Healy.
But I want to know where this kiss happened.
What did, who? I just can't wait to meet her be friends
with her someday and be like girl we gotta talk about this and like wait did you ever find out
if he knew it was about like and and how fun was it knowing that he like I can't wait to just
talk to her someday about all of this stuff and how fucking great it must feel to write about people who've hurt you
and know they have to hear it it's so good and to just get your revenge in this way where you're
like the bell of the ball and everyone's singing this song and this guy is gonna be haunted by it
i mean i've seen memes before where it's like uh girls saying that i know my exes every time they
hear taylor swift song they're gonna think of me think of me. Think of me. Yeah, I love that.
I mean, I love it too because that's the gift she's given us of like, if you're a big enough fan, she's everywhere and they're going to always have to think about us.
Yeah, I feel like she started that trend really early on with like, you should have said no from debut.
And Better Than Revenge, I feel like is the anthem of that.
Of like, I have the last word i write
these bangers that everyone's gonna listen to and they're about you and there's nothing you can do
about it like yes i love that it's so good i used to write jokes when i would about guys and
sometimes they would be in the room and it was so fucking satisfying. Oh my God. Really?
Success and getting laughter about something that's mocking them
and only they know it's them
is just so satisfying.
I don't like when people know
who I'm talking about.
I want them to be the only one
and to know that I'm like,
that everyone's laughing at them.
Oh my God.
It's a sick thing,
but it feels so good.
Oh my God, Nikki. So the smallest man who ever lived. Okay. Yeah.
It's definitely about who we, I don't ever say it to about, you can say those names, but I'm not
saying names. Jehovah's witness suit. We kind of, that's painting a picture. Tried to buy some pills
from a friend of friends of mine. I like the fact that she has friends who have friends that are
drug deal drugs. I mean, this is an edgy taylor swift we haven't seen before she's being honest she started talking
about alcohol we all have friends that are friends with drug dealers and i like that she is too
that's cool yeah um they just go so this is where we think that this guy ghosted her they just
ghosted you now you know what it feels like yes um ghosted her absolutely yes he uh i that's
i want details on that so badly i feel like he got on a plane and then she just never heard from him
why where do we get the plane thing from that because i've heard that too yeah he went to like
a show or like went back to england and then i don't remember where i read it
but i just feel like yeah i know that's been part of the the narrative for me as well as this plane
thing but i guess that's like how they would ever meet up is like they they it's a they don't drive
to each they just plane to each other because that's yeah they're both on the tour um i don't
even want you back i just want to know if rusting my sparkling summer was the goal.
Oh, my God.
And I don't miss what we had, but would someone give a message to the smallest man who ever lived?
Okay, so, like, this is where she's solidly being like, I don't want to be with you.
Like, which, you know, I think is a point that needed to be made because it was a little unclear before.
Like, this guy just hurt her.
Because there's been times when I've been hurt by guys and i would totally i i act i'm acting
like i'm really mad but there's a there's a little door that's left open and she's closing a big door
what are you talking about it's like the door is open please come back in it they have to put their
shoe in it and kind of go like you know um yes well that's what i like i mean i'm sorry if i'm
skipping ahead but with i'm going to get you back.
It's like whether I'm going to kill you or marry you, I'm going to get you back.
And it's like, oh, my God, I did not know that double entendre.
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Like, I'm going to get revenge.
Like, I'm going to get you back.
I did not even think about that.
Oh, really?
What an idiot.
No, I mean, I'm okay with not getting it because it's so in your face.
This is what I'm talking about.
Like, Taylor sometimes has things that are so blatant.
And that was a question that I would want to ask her recently is like what's the most obvious thing
that you're like i can't believe they didn't see it and like because you know there's something
where that is glaring and we're all missing it i know it i saw this video last night that said
the video that has the most easter eggs she said there's like maybe hundreds or thousands is look
what you made me do and i still for the life of me don't know what she's
talking about well some some of these messages are just we'll never know because she's never
confirmed or denied anything i that's why i have to say thank you amy we think it's about you know
who but we have no we have no confirmation and i i will i will um you know we can we only can suspect about almost
like every we don't have details about she's never confirmed anyone her songs are about anyone
so we there's always possible deniability even though she did capitalize k i am and it's i'm
like yeah and she used to capitalize in her like old lyrics book Little coded messages for us to know who it's about
She's so sneaky
Smallest Man, I want to think about any other lyrics
I mean
Oh God
I would have died for your sins
But instead I just died inside
Oh my, I love
Because it wasn't sexy once it wasn't forbidden
Okay, this is an interesting part
And you'll confess why you did it And I'll say good riddance so this is later 50 years later
it's going to be declassified he'll confess why he did it and she'll say good riddance
that's interesting she she'll say it then or she'll say it now yeah she'll just go whatever
um but she says and i'll say good riddance because it wasn't sexy once it wasn't forbidden
now this makes me think that she might be someone who thought it wasn't sexy once it wasn't forbidden now this makes me think that she might
be someone who thought it wasn't sexy once it wasn't forbidden oh i did not even think of that
yeah i don't know why that makes me think that like it should because i'll say good riddance
because i mean she's talking about something because because of what she did she'll say good
riddance because it wasn't sexy once it
wasn't forbidden so she's admitting that i think a little bit here that she might be part of the
problem it's me hi i'm the problem it's me yes you're right that like i liked it yes no you're
and then i like um that someone called this out in a review i saw which i thought was funny but
i think taylor is in on it you said normal girls were boring but you were gone by the morning and it's like does that mean
you're boring Taylor like did he like it's it's kind of a funny two sentences to put together
if I don't think she meant it that way but I also think that she is she might have like she might
have be like wait does that mean you think I was boring you kicked out the stage lights but you're
still performing I mean that's I think there's footage of him kicking out stage lights
possibly oh is there i mean how could i not be i think it's just a guy who's causing a ruckus on
stage okay or you know you make things go things are going dark and you're still you're still
performing the way i thought about it was like you kicked off the stage lights because her and they were in a relationship that was on a world stage.
So you didn't want the attention, but you're still in the public eye.
You're still performing.
Right.
You're still dating publicly.
Oh, interesting.
And in plain sight, you hid.
But you are what you did.
That?
It's such a good line.
So simple, but so fucking good and it's
like yeah all these excuses i made for guys i've dated and it's like no you are what you did they
are the decisions that they've made and the things that they've done it's not separate
and so i forget you but i'll never forgive um so I mean I feel like we've heard
how have we not heard
the way she works language in new ways
that maybe I'm naive to think
this is the most amazing
poetry I've ever read but it
to me it truly is and she is
just doing stuff with words that I just like
and phrases I love how she
just takes an old worn phrase and
makes it, deconstructs it
and makes it new again.
I'll forget you but I'll never forgive you. It reminds
me of when Lauren
Conrad said to Heidi Montag
in The Hills,
I'll forgive you.
Wait, I forgive you?
I don't forgive you? No, I'll forgive you
and I want to forget you Yes
Oh
That was so
That was such a good moment
With the tear
Going down her eyes
Oh yeah
One little tear
Oh my god
One little
Droplet of visine
That they put in
Right before the shot
And I'll forget you
But I'll never forgive
The smallest man
Who ever lived
Okay
Obsessed
Let's get to the next song
Because we're
Oh
I have to
Go to break again I'm gonna put in a next song because we're, Oh, I have to go to break again.
I'm going to put in a break before,
but we're going to cut all this out.
Sorry.
Okay.
Before we get to the next song,
God,
I thought we were going to get through more today,
but we're not,
we're going to go to break.
We'll be back after this with what's next.
The alchemy.
The alchemy.
Ooh,
who are we to fight it?
We'll be back after this.
All right,
we're back.
Let's talk about the alchemy
um travis kelsey said this is one of his favorite songs because it's about him bitch and so high
school and blank space i saw a meme that was like even travis kelsey has songs about him and he has
to admit blank space fucking is the best song ever yeah it rules yeah um i loved that and yeah alchemy
is definitely about him uh let's let me look at the lyrics because it's this and so high school
kind of blend together for me even though i'm listening to so i would have loved more so high
school was took the place of this song and then the alchemy was on the anthology i don't really care where
they are because they came out like three hours apart so it's all the same to me does that look
like but you're saying just in terms of when you listed the album through yeah i feel like
yeah exactly this is too early for you because we haven't gotten to school so high school yet right yeah yeah and i guess maybe i put more weight on to the um the original album because i i like to
listen to it from start to end and i think that she curates it in a way that is listenable in one
yeah you're right yeah but i don't think of it that way. But yes, I think So High School would have been a better first song about him than Alchemy.
Yes, that's how I feel.
Yeah, this was the first time we hear, oh my God, I, so when Chris, when Taylor and Travis started dating, Chris, my boyfriend, was like, do you think our next songs are going to be like, and then we touched down in a place
and then I spiked the ball and you threw me.
It's just going to be all football metaphors.
And I was like, no, our girl is not that corny.
I go, she might,
but she's going to do it with a glitter pen way.
Like she's not going to be, I go,
no, I'm sorry.
I did not say that at the time.
At the time I said, no, she's not going to be, I go, no, I'm sorry. I did not say that at the time. At the time I said, no, she's not going to do that to us.
And because I literally, I thought that that just sounded too cheesy.
But I did not realize how it could be done in a way that would not make me feel that way at all.
And then the album came out and I sent Chris the lyrics and I go, I am eating crow.
Absolutely.
She's done it.
But can I please, I go, I'll let you have this win that you predicted
what she would do but i need to tell you she's doing it ironically and she's doing it with like
with a little bit of irony and she's doing it with a glitter pen and you're i don't need you
to understand what that means but i know what it means and it's permissible so um i love the
football references and all of the in so high school and alchemy my favorite line from this
is he jokes that it's heroin but this time with an e yeah he definitely made that joke oh do you
think he made it yeah i think that he was like you're like heroin but with an e and that just
is and that's letting us know that he's smarter than maybe he we think he is swifty universe
hannah's and sarah's because he knows the difference in those spellings, which is not actually a very easy thing to know the difference in, because sometimes I get it confused.
Yeah, I thought that was really cute.
But some people were saying that this song might be about the other guy because of the mention of heroin.
Oh, I didn't think of that.
Because this time it's heroin with an E.
Last time it was heroin without an E.
Why say this time if there wasn't a last time?
I made that part up, but that's kind of why I think maybe it could be.
Because I think some of these songs are a mixture of people.
And I also, but okay, if you're Travis and you're like, this song is about me.
He goes, babe, I never made a joke about heroin with an E.
What's that?
And she'd just be like, um, babe, come here.
And she just kisses him.
And then he forgets.
I don't know.
Do you think she could, in a song that's about Travis, have snuck in some other guy stuff?
I think she could have.
She could have. She could have. And I wonder, like, would she have told him about her previous, her past and that a guy was dealing with drug issues?
Okay.
Yeah, I think, no, I think she probably, that's what I would like to ask Taylor.
Taylor, when you date a new guy, do you walk them through your romantic past?
Because I know that you want to because you're like me and I would want to, but guys don't want to hear that shit ever, dude, ever.
But that's what's great about him
is he went to the show.
He knows what she's about.
He knows she's going to write about it.
He knows that these are songs by other people.
I don't think he's thinking about it that much.
I don't think he's thinking that much about it.
Really?
No, I think he just likes a good bop.
I really don't think that he is like
investigating these lyrics like we are.
And that is not an indictment.
I love him and he
doesn't need to do that like chris loves me and isn't like let me how did you write this joke and
what inspired it like he likes he just likes me you know like he doesn't need to delve into this
stuff so i don't if we're looking for travis to be a swifty on the level that we are you're going
to be disappointed and he shouldn't be honestly well i guess then i think it would be
a bit cruel for her to say he jokes that it's heroin but this time with an e because as much
as someone has hurt you like a drug addiction is serious so i don't think that she would make that
just of it no i'm just saying that she she would say it if if that person had said it like if the
person that said it because he jokes it's him
saying it so either travis said this or someone else said this and if it was the someone else i
don't find it bad if she's saying the joke for him even though i mean she talks about his drug
addiction like but you wanted drugs more and i just watched it happen when i first heard that
i was like uh what we're learning about someone's drug addiction
i think that's my like top two song on the whole album oh my god it's so good
i'm obsessed with that song you know how you go back to like the bridge of a small man who ever
lived yeah i go back to the verses of chloe or sam or Marcus. Oh, really? The verses. See, the thing that grips me in that song is.
I'll tell you.
Go ahead.
No, no, go ahead.
My favorite part in that song is that I want to keep skipping back to is I changed into
goddesses, villains, and fools, changed plans on lovers and outfits and rules all to outrun
my desertion of you.
Desertion of you.
Desertion of you. i just looked at that
i was like kind of checking out the lyrics before we got started and i was like focused on that exact
uh verse because i loved um i changed into goddesses villains and fools changed plans
and lovers and outfits and rules and all to outrun my desertion so she's why is she out
what is it to outrun a desertion he's gonna leave her so she's changing
anything about herself to make him stay she's all to outrun but it's her desertion of him
no yeah she says all to outrun my desertion desertion of you it's her desertion oh my god
even though that's the words i still believe i don't know how to explain this
like maybe i'm in la la land i don't care but it's like i think she wants to leave him and she's
trying to outrun it she's trying to like dress up and do things even though she wants out she's
trying to save the fact that she wants out all to outrun my desertion of you like i was i'm
deserting you him deserting her still it's not though it's literally all to outrun my desertion of you. Like I was, I'm deserting you. No, it's him deserting her still.
It's not though.
It's literally all to outrun my desertion of you.
And I get what you're saying where you're like,
I don't care what she says.
I know the feeling that she's trying to convey
and I'm going to go with that.
And I totally trust you to do that.
But I think it could also be the other thing
because it is.
I'm just kidding.
Look at you looking off into the distance.
Don't desert me
No you know the part of the song
That really kills me is
If you wanna break my cold cold heart
Just say I loved you the way that you were
Like she's all she's asking for
Is like these
If you wanna tear my world apart
Just say you've always wondered
All you have to do To get me to not desert you is say these two things.
Say,
I love you the way that you were just say that.
And I will stick around.
Or if you want to tear my world apart,
if you want to like,
you want to keep me,
just say you've always want like,
and if,
if we are broken up and then you want to keep me or get me back,
just say
i've always wondered what we could have been like just she just wants a little hope and she will
not you are blowing my mind right now that is not what i thought the song was about
but also it is about like the fear of like you wanting wanting to knowing something's ending
and being terrified of it ending because even though it might be good and you want out you
think about your hologram stumbled into my apartment,
hands in the hair of somebody in darkness.
And by the way,
this person is,
uh,
that she's thinking about is bisexual because Chloe,
Sam or Sophia or Marcus,
which I thought was a little bit like someone's getting outed,
but maybe that person's already out.
I don't know.
As the decade would play us for fools.
And you saw my bones.
I was somebody new who seemed like he would have bullied you in school now is she's either talking about she's out with
someone who looks like a football player that would have bullied the guy before him or she's
with some guy who looks like a little punk kid who would have bullied the theater kid i don't know
who this is about no i feel like he's hooking up with somebody who would have bullied him in school.
No.
And you saw my bones out with somebody new.
So he saw her out with somebody new who seemed like he would have bullied you in school.
Oh, my God.
Nikki, you are turning my world upside down today.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
You needed me, but you needed drugs more
My favorite melody is
And I couldn't watch it happen
That is the most beautiful melody
It just conveys
Sometimes she just nails
The melody with the words
And it just
The watch it happen ones kill me
Absolutely kill me
I'm shredded
Let's get to sorry we already
did that no that's okay clara bow um love the lyrics the song itself is beautiful but it's
just not what i'm i'm just needing like fast bops right now in my life but i love the lyrics
yeah and the content and the commentary because even now it's like I'm 35 and it's like, you're always compared.
You never feel like you're good enough.
Like, I don't know.
I just love the message of that song.
It was so beautiful.
It's nothing new 2.0.
It's about like being replaced.
Yes.
Yes.
And yeah, it's you're the crown is stained, but you're the real queen. I mean, like she, I honestly felt like this two weeks ago when the roast happened, like
everyone's just like, you're the queen.
You literally are.
People are calling me a queen for the first time in my life.
And I'm just like, I know that it's, they're comparing me to people and saying like this,
you're like her, but you actually do this, like trying to build me up by comparing me
to other women. By putting down other women. Yeah. And you feel like there's all this
attention on you and you're, you're the bell of the ball. Like you're, you're the best going.
And the truth is it's that it might be for the time being, but it's only the time being,
this is not an everlasting kind of attention that you could ever count on. And it's, it will always
break your heart every single time.
It is not, you are not going to have a love affair
with show business that lasts a lifetime.
It will divorce you without,
and it will start fucking someone new
and it will break your heart every goddamn time.
So don't believe them when they tell you they're the queen.
You are one person, you are someone that they told,
oh, you look like
her but you're better and in the end someone's gonna tell a girl you look like taylor swift in
this light we're loving it and you've got edge but she never did the future's bright dazzling
yes you're going to be replaced by the next thing and they're gonna say you're like nikki glazer but
you actually i don't even know what they could say what my biggest fear is but I don't even want to think about it
but it's true that it is
this made me hate show business
also the song
that I saw her do for the first time
oh what was it
well let's
I don't even think it's time to go to break yet
I told Olivia that I would schedule
let's go to break and then we'll find out what song I'm talking about
is the one that makes me also hate Hollywood.
All right, we're back.
It's the one that's the song that she played when I was at Air as the first concert.
And I was up in the stands and I was like, oh, this is our secret song.
I don't even know this song.
But it's the one about, god damn it.
I think it's off red but I could be wrong and it's about being in Hollywood
and they move to
a farm or something the woman moves out
oh it's about Joni Mitchell
really?
yes hold on
hold on
the Swifties are screaming at their
oh I'm so sorry
I'm usually a lot better
new to town with a made up
name in the city fortune and the lucky one the lucky one uh she played that song and i was like
what is this and then i was like oh my god they tell you they tell you the the lucky one and then
um she eventually yeah she becomes famous in this town and you're the lucky one and then um she eventually yeah she becomes famous in this town and you're the
lucky one and then you get out and then you're the lucky one when you get out as i think what
it's kind of about um all right so the lucky one is a fucking great song the alchemy clarabelle
um the black dog this one is the one that most people i feel are like oh my god it's my favorite
song of all time i'm obsessed i can't stop listening to it and i
definitely think it's that for me but i just haven't really injected it in my veins yet
but i do love it what about you i loved it for me it was just so relatable how like she's
you know taylor swift and the guy she's dating but is over with now forgot to turn off his location
and it pierces new holes in her heart
and it's like just so honest and vulnerable and relatable and beautiful and um when we get to it
there's a song later on that really reminds me of the black dog and that experience too
which one i look in people's windows i think when the album first came out
because it's like that same feeling of
like how don't you miss me i just want to see you again like those two were perfectly encapsulated
huh call back how i felt when like i went through my last breakup of the black dog and yes and i
look in people's windows like like i'm some deranged weirdo because I did it.
I did it.
I would walk around.
I'd go to a park and be like, is he here?
Is he here?
Am I going to run into him?
Yeah.
Okay, and hoping you do.
Yes.
Yes.
Interesting.
This song, I haven't related to it yet, but I guess I don't relate to that experience.
Yeah, because she's singing How You Don't Miss Me.
And I just don't understand how you don't miss me in the black dock um i love just sonically i love um old habits
does scream and it goes like that that bass and that like banging that gets so intense she sounds
crazy and i love it that was gonna be that was a possible name for the
song we saw the voice notes come out this weekend and so old habits die screaming was gonna be the
name but i actually prefer the black dog yeah i do too and so does the bar that it's named after
they be doing well man yeah um yeah i love um know, like, but she's too young to know this song that was an intertwined in the tragic fabric of our dreaming.
Yeah.
The common theme, which I also have in my stand up of being replaced by someone younger and finding a way to make it so like, I feel like a lot of times, let's say i was dating a guy and he ends up with a young
girl i would like to tell myself like they can't enjoy the thing like she's yeah she's maybe hotter
and younger but dude she's not gonna be she's not gonna get our jokes and that's really satisfying
that's 100 they'll never have our personality and our humor that's the one thing i think of like
no matter who you date after me she will never make you laugh as much as I did.
Ever, ever, ever.
Yeah.
I have that on point.
I know.
I know.
There's been a couple girls I've met before that I'm like, he better not go out with her.
Because I think she might be funnier.
Where I've been like, uh-oh.
But overall, that's where I really, I really, yeah.
I'm pretty secure with my personality and relationships and
even physically I'm just like you know if you're into it you're into it and I don't question a lot
but I guess I when I think about like a fear of another woman like someone ending up with someone
I honestly just think I maybe I'm a narcissist I always think they're just not having a good time
I convince myself that yeah like oh Like, or maybe I go,
Oh,
she understands sports better than I do.
Or she's a bikini model.
Like I stalk,
I go so first stock,
like I'll just be honest with that.
And I'm like,
you know what?
At the end of the day,
I know what I am.
I am not those things,
but I am what I am. And what I those things, but I am what I am.
And what I will say is,
I know guys that have dated bikini models,
legit bikini models,
and they get tired of fucking them.
No matter how cool they are,
no matter how hot they are,
like everyone,
they'll get tired of fucking them.
Just like they'll get tired of fucking you
because that's what a monogamous relationship is.
So don't worry if your boyfriend
is dating some new hot girl.
He might get validation from outside world
that will make him feel good.
But like he liked fucking you as much as her guaranteed because it all goes to nil no matter how hot they are.
And I know that just from having guy friends who fuck really hot girls.
So that's just my like takeaway.
I would never because of my experience hearing about guys and I'm like her.
You're trying to fucking her.
And they're just like, I don't even like feel it anymore.
I'm like, oh, that's good news.
So personality, making a guy laugh, that'll never fade.
That's something that's not recreatable.
But we all, no matter how good your body is,
you're going to, it's going to, we're all going to stabilize.
Sag in age, yeah.
Well, not even sag in age.
Guys will just get, guys sexually need newness.
And it will always stagnate
so don't think that some hot girl is gonna rock his world if she might rock his world a little
bit longer than you did but it'll get to as much of a like he doesn't care whatever point you it
here's the good news when guys the fucking a model for 10 months he's jerking off to memories of your
body probably because it's new.
You might have such a worse body than the girl he's with now.
Not you, Nora, but any girl I'm talking to right now.
And I guarantee you, because of the newness
of it, he's probably thinking about
girls that look like you and not her.
So that's just my little detour
to make everyone feel better
about a thing that is not easy.
Because I saw a girl with an amazing body
today in my Pilates class,
which there aren't many in St. Louis, no offense.
We're all pretty big.
We don't look LA hot in St. Louis.
None of us do.
But this girl did,
and I was like, what the fuck?
And I was so mad about it.
And I was like,
God, I bet every guy would rather bang her.
And I was just like,
yeah, for a little bit,
he'd rather bang her.
And then we're all even, you know?
Okay.
So, so high.
Sorry.
I'm going to get you back.
I love this.
There's rumors that I'm going to get you back.
There's no spaces in it because that's a thing that a certain band does in their songs a lot.
Is that they combine words and make a really long word.
I didn't know that.
Okay.
So that's a style that...
Wait a second.
There is a lyric that I wanted to talk to you about
about in lowercase.
I put you in something in lowercase.
What's the lyric?
Because that is a folk...
That means that there's something in folklore
about this person.
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Oh, I didn't.
Do you know what I'm saying?
You're a genius.
I think that's her telling us
that there is a folklore song about this person
because it is,
let me just find it.
Taylor Swift, lowercase.
Wasn't that in Guilty as Sin?
Yes.
So we all know who Guilty as Sin is about, right?
So wait, let's find it.
So sorry to everyone.
Guilty.
You can take this stuff out
if this goes on too long, please, editor.
Okay, Gu guilty as sin.
Yeah, I keep these longings locked.
I keep these longings locked in lowercase inside of vaults.
Okay, vaults is obviously making us think of albums and songs that never made it.
This might have been a song that was meant for folklore.
It is in lowercase.
It could be a vault track for folklore.
I'm putting this together now.
Breaking news.
That is amazing.
You're absolutely right.
And this kind of could fit on folklore
if it was produced a little bit differently.
And by the way,
when she was making folklore,
this is definitely when those fantasies
were probably happening
in the end of
her relationship or when it was kind of stagnating right yeah so anyway um back to uh i'm gonna get
you back um oh sorry i'm gonna get you back is the one in lowercase not guilty of sin but i'm
gonna get you back everyone's saying that this is like olivia rodrigo already made this song like i'm gonna get
him back that song which i do like i don't know that song what the fuck are people talking about
when they say that i don't give a fuck if the song is the same exact idea or theme it's two
different artists it's like being like van gogh why did you paint those flowers monet painted
flowers like that what are you talking about?
Don't you dare say that a girl can't write a similarly themed song about getting a guy back and, um, and in the same year. And that is, I'll be the first to say, if someone has like copied
someone, Taylor Swift does not copy anyone. And she's certainly not going to copy someone who
she's being accused of like having a tumultuous relationship with it's an insane idea and we need more than one two songs about
getting a guy back end of discussion um but yeah i like i'm gonna get you back and also this is a
breakup album and so all the phases of a breakup are valid on here regardless of whether someone
else made a song like she's on her own journey writing her own songs getting through this i did not know that the lyric was
lilac short skirt the one that fits me like skin okay she's wearing a lilac short skirt in the um
the fortnight challenge yeah fortnight challenge yes so we know this is um and i who is she getting back
um i think this could this be about travis
because that short skirt i feel like she was wearing during maybe she was wearing it i thought
it was like shot um recently but maybe she just put it on again i think so yeah
i like once you fix your face i'm going in i think that's like like she probably said that to a guy
like his face was probably like whoa and she was like well once you fix your face i'll kiss you
yeah like i'm going in like you could tell what like sometimes a guy looks at you and you're like
i'm not gonna kiss you while you're making a face like that at me like i don't know that just made me kind of think that um it's just cute and flirty and honest and open you know uh yeah and this is like this is also
like whether i'm gonna be your wife or gonna smash up your bike guy i like bike guy haven't decided
yet but this is also like you're gonna marry kiss or kill me it's just a thing it's kind of that giving that um let's see some other lyrics small talk big
walk act like i don't care what you did i'm the aston martin that steered you straight into the
ditch then ran and hid um that's an english um car isn't it it is yeah yeah like an f1 team. I think they were like excited she mentioned them.
Yeah, the song is really,
I think the song is so fun
and I've liked it from the get-go,
but I don't hear people
talking about it a lot.
And then let's end
this time together
with The Albatross.
Even though it's not
my favorite song
and I don't have a lot
to say about it,
but let me look up the lyrics and maybe I'll stumble upon my feelings. I love The Albatross. Sell though it's not my favorite song and I don't have a lot to say about it, but let me look up the lyrics
and maybe I'll stumble upon my feelings.
I love The Albatross.
Sell me on it, girl.
I love the melody.
Size man, sunset, wild winds, death to the candle.
Like the melody's incredible.
It doesn't grip me.
Really?
But I do like, yeah, I don't know. The melody doesn't grip me, even though I do acknowledge don't know the melody doesn't grip me even though i do
acknowledge that if i ever came up with a melody this good i would just like quit comedy forever
like it's it's it is good it's just not in my bones okay i love the cross your thoughtless heart
like what's crossing a thoughtless heart like someone's lying they're crossing their heart but they're not thinking about it only liquor anoints you yeah i like i love only liquor and
i like the i like the phrasing of that i just love everything okay let me see and when the
sky rains fire on you and your person oh i love. I really like that.
I love that persona non grata.
That is fun.
And I just like anything
that she is here to destroy you.
I mean, she's vicious in this album.
Watch out.
She's, it's so fun.
I love it.
And it was like,
you know,
just the same with your roast
and the same with like
what I'm trying to do in my
life. Just be honest. Doesn't matter. Other people's feelings are not your responsibility.
If you're speaking your truth. Yes. Love it. What other people think of you is none of your
business. I mean, but she also like gives no fucks because she's at the top. Like, how could you?
Like, how great would it be? That's one thing that I have to say after this roast.
Like, people have been so nice to me.
Everyone wants to be my friend.
It's kind of like I'm the popular girl in school right now in the comedy world.
And it feels really good to finally feel that, like, to get that attention.
It's just, you know, that's why I was always the girl in school.
I just wanted to be the popular girl.
And it, like, feels nice.
But I will say, but I'm not i i know i know what it is now
i'm not i'm not like oh my god this is real like it feels good but i'm not like nuts over it but
i will say that that's really healthy you should give yourself credit for that i am so proud of
myself with how i'm handling this like i am a little bit arrogant sometimes and i give myself
credit in the way like that i need to that people have taught me like Nikki let's sum of this in you deserve it but I really am not it's not I don't
think it's changing who I am and I'm like not that but it's still early so just give it time
and then I'll change my number and I won't give you the new one nor JK oh no um no I'd never do
that to you um but yeah I feel like the best part about it is that
I don't have to suck up to anyone anymore. Like I don't have to like if you want to work with me,
great. But like if you don't, it's OK. Other people do now that I would have never dreamed
of. So I don't this lifeline that used to be you and me having to be nice to you and put up with
your bullshit. I don't have to do that anymore like you you would be lucky to work with me now and i'm not saying that to be like i feel that way like just based on the politics
of the way it just literally facts it's my stock is up and i don't have to deal and you know that's
what's nice about having power is that you don't have to and and fame is this like elusive uh
illusion of power
because ultimately it fades
like we've learned in Clarabelle and all this stuff.
But that is, I will say,
for Taylor to be able to throw people under the bus
very publicly like she's doing
is really fascinating to me
because it's someone who truly has nothing to gain
from anyone, from kissing anyone's ass anymore
if she doesn't want to and
what freedom is that you know you hope to find it before like you hope to be someone who doesn't
kiss anyone's ass for things but it's really subconscious like i don't i really try not to i
want to be clear i don't try to kiss people's ass in this business to get things but i'm overall a
nice person and i am aware of what being a pleasant person can get me as opposed to just
maybe honest and being like I don't want to talk to you right now you know like I'm not going to
say that to someone but it is nice to have uh fuck you power and like have it for literally like you
could sit you could throw anyone under the bus and like she could literally change the election
she could change world elections world elections could. She has more power than
literally anyone has. Anyone. She is. And her NYU doctorate, when they were introducing her
for her honorary doctorate at NYU, they were like, she's a champion for artist rights.
They listed all these things that she does outside of just music and they are significant like the way she fought stood
up against apple and she fights for artists to own their work and that guy who grabbed her ass
oh yes women violence was that yeah do i want her to stop eating meat and talk about it oh my god
yes do i want her to go vegan like yeah but i just i am so obsessed with uh the second um chorus of but
daddy i love him where she just jumps from side to side with her skirt and i'm so obsessed with
that skirt especially on so high school when she gets on the bleachers and they're doing all the
like you know how to ball i know aristotle and then she um brand new full throttle and she like
tucks the skirt beneath her legs.
So you don't see her crotch.
It's such a smooth move.
But it looks so cool.
Because she's never indecent, you know?
Yeah.
You know, on the chair dance, she'll like put her hand down.
But she'll stop right before her pubic bone and slide off.
Even when she's like, touch me.
Your boys play Grand Theft Auto.
Like she, do you notice that move?
Yeah.
Yes. Yes. And I love like where she's leaning back and they go back side to side um i'm so obsessed i cannot wait
to see it i'm going i'm hopefully gonna go see her somewhere in europe but i still haven't gotten
confirmation on those tickets but i think i have another in we you know what we could do we could
get like um i don't know like just like a set of four or five, five, six tickets. And just like all you bring your mom.
Like, it'll be me, my cousin, my aunt.
How do you go about getting tickets?
I'm going to go through a resale site.
Sites.
And then they're available?
In StubHub.
Yeah.
I mean, they're not the cheapest, if I'm being honest.
Especially the seated ones.
No, of course not.
Because my aunt doesn't want to sit on the floor because it's three hours.
And she needs to sit down for a bit.
Yeah, I think we're going to go separate because I got to be standing all the time.
I got to be on the floor.
Really?
Oh, I'm never not being on the floor again.
I'll go if someone has tickets, but it's just how I like to see it.
I've seen it in every little different way and that's how I like to be.
Floor is king for you.
And I gotta see eras on the floor and I gotta be on,
I wanna be on one of the sides
because I wanna see that fucking,
I wanna see closeup of the
Smallest Man Who Ever Lived bridge.
And if you have,
don't know what I'm talking about,
you need to go find the video right now
and watch it a million times with me.
And then if you ever meet me in person,
can we just at the
meet and greet
sing the bridge
to the smallest man
who ever lived together
that is something
I would like to do
with besties
who come to the show
but we have to go
this podcast has gone on
far too long
and we will do another one
to cover the rest of songs
soon
but this was so fun
and it always is
I love you Noor
I love you more Nikki
bye guys
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