The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 004 - Shane Lechler, Kyle Brandt, & Mark Henry

Episode Date: September 13, 2018

On today's show, Pat and the crew chat about a few things that are happening around the NFL as we get into week 2. They cover the skunk smell coming from the Raiders locker room, and Pat remembers playing in Oakland with a haze floating over the stadium. Pat also dives into Chuck Pagano's travel dress rules and how got around them. Also included are three great interviews. First, the GOAT of punting, Shane Lechler, joins the show to talk about his split with the Texans, what he's been doing with his time off now, and what he thinks of the state of the game (36:08-50:43). Next, cohost of Good Morning Football, Kyle Brandt, joins the show to talk about his new show The Kyle Brandt Football Experience, how weird his resume is, and how his career has gotten to this point (56:26-1:14:24). After the show, The World's Strongest Man, Mark Henry, joins the show. They chat about his WWE career, getting arrested in Ireland, and some of his wildest experiences, (1:20:00-1:43:01). Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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There's a lot of things out there for your ears to get penetrated by, and you choose Pat McAfee Show 2.0. And for that i will forever be thankful our tuesday show made some news ended up on the tmz for a good thing not which is very out of the norm normally you end up on tmz jerry springer dr phil you head to the hills you hide this particular time it was richie incognito side of the story getting out uh i think a lot of people reacted well to the Richie Incognito side of the story getting out I think a lot of people reacted well to the Richie Incognito interview by the way

got a couple people yelling at me for giving him a platform and shit like that but I think you know what the guy's admitting fault that he fucked up

and keeps it moving TMZ good on them for posting those people probably didn't listen to the interview yes that's a lot of the things that happen in this world

by the way a little oh I do it every day meh meh meh meh that's those people look at the headline don't read the article Yes. That's a lot of the things that happen in this world, by the way. Oh, I do it every day. Man, man, man, man. That's those people. Look at the headline. Don't read the article. Make a judgment off of that.

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This is a guy that's been playing football a long time. Talked about the state of the NFL, the future of the NFL, and also the first time he'd ever been cut just a couple weeks ago, and I'm excited for you to hear that. Kyle Brandt, host of Good Morning Football. Okay, so there's Nate Burleson. There's the lady Kay, I believe her name is. And then there's two white guys.

Look very similar. Schrags is one of them. Kyle Brandt is the other one. They are very electric human beings. And Kyle Brandt comes on this show and talks to us and is absolutely hilarious promoting his new show. I think you're going to enjoy that. And then, to wrap it up at the end,

WWE Hall of famer mark henry has a 30-minute conversation with us just about life about his life in the wwe traveling around the world and also the evening he carried me home when i was puking all over he and i got off to a good start speaking of a good start the the NFL had a big weekend. They said ratings were up across the board, except for on ESPN and NBC. Sucks for them. Let's keep it moving.

But NFL ratings up from last year were up, which is good. Do you have to think that this is potentially because of the National Anthem not being a focal point of the weekend? I think it's Nike. I think it's got to help. Nike cured all. You think Nike cured all? The Nike commercial cured all.

That Nike commercial, by the way, very, very motivating. Yeah. And if you take, this is like anything, though. If you take a quote out of context, which is what Nike did on purpose, believe in something, even if it means sacrificing everything, they put that on the internet the day before the full commercial reads. Everybody and their mom is like, oh, this is because he kneeled and sacrificed his whole, his career. And then they play the commercial and mom is like, oh, this is because he kneeled and sacrificed his whole career.

And then they play the commercial, and it's like, no, no, no. This is about everybody believing in something, sacrificing their whole life to make it to the top. It was pretty genius marketing by Nike, and they either pissed you off or made you motivated. No matter the case, their stock is up now, and Nike is moving forward, making those little kids in bangladesh make more shoes

than ever before but i do i am happy that the nfl ratings are up it's the best game it's the best goddamn game i was just happy to see like during most of the games that i was watching i was like oh you know what that's pretty violent week one and there was not none of the uh lowering the head penalties the the one penalty that was getting called a lot that I fucking hate is the falling on the quarterback penalty, which you cannot control at all. That's changing the game. It is, isn't it? I mean, oh, we're going to have to punt.

Nope, first down. You know what I mean? We talked to Carson Palmer the other day, and it was him who basically started, and this is something I missed. Everybody does a little self-awareness. I'll look in the mirror. I'll watch a little film. I'll listen in the mirror. I'll watch a little film. I'll listen to the tape.

I fucked up by not asking Carson Palmer that he was basically the one who transitioned this whole quarterback rule change. Kimo Von Ohlheim. D-lineman for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Climbs in at Carson Palmer's knees. He tears the ACL. He's up for a possible MVP that year. He's having the best year of his entire life.

When I asked him if he regretted anything, I was thinking he was going to lead into that. So I'm not too hard on myself. But that rule change with them crawling into the legs, no longer hitting low, that turns into the strike zone, which turns into the, what is that, leaping or piling on or whatever. Carson Palmer really set the things in motion

for the whole NFL rules. And now if you're a D lineman, you're going to get paid a lot of money if you can figure out how to tackle a quarterback without getting a fucking penalty call. Yeah, I feel bad for somebody. Like, say you're hitting Ben Roethlisberger. I mean, you really got to wrap that dude up and drive.

So to be able to control not falling and putting your body... He's slimmer this year, Todd. Well... And that's the differentiator, right? You can't drive him to the ground, but if you fall on top of him, you're okay. Every single coach, though, in the history of football says, you don't just tackle him to the ground,

you tackle him through the ground. And it's like, I'm just trying to get the motherfucker on the ground, to be honest. Literally, it's wrap, lift, and drive is the fucking... That's old school, not new school. You're an old school player, Diggs. You're real old school. So how do you fix this for defensive linemen, then?

You can't. You literally have to basically arm tackle them with just your one shoulder and make sure most of your body is on the side of them. The interesting thing here is, though, is it makes sense, though. You've got guys getting $100 million guaranteed. They are the backbone of every single game. If some D-lineman, who's also getting paid a lot of money, takes out a guy, the NFL sees the ratings crash, bang.

The NFL sees merch sales crash, bang. They see the quality of the game, bang. Everything goes down. So it's like, okay, how do we make this right for everybody? I don't think you can. Robert Mathis says he actually hates quarterbacks. That's his, I hate quarterbacks. I want to kill quarterbacks.

He's teaching his kids to want to kill quarterbacks. That's so scary. Yeah, he's got them brands all over his goddamn body. He's a Q dog, and he hates quarterbacks. That's a real thing, and it's D linemen hate quarterbacks, but quarterbacks are all the money. It's like, I don't know how you're going to make them fit. That's a really good point because they'd rather throw five to ten of those penalties a week

than have Aaron Rodgers or any other top quarterback land on his shoulder, break a collarbone with 300 pounds of defensive linemen on top of him, and then you can't watch a Packers game for the rest of the season. Yeah. I mean, the show, Aaron Rodgers, I think he's the reason why this whole rule is up and at him because of goddamn Barr. Anthony Barr, yeah. AB. Yeah, yeah. AB.

Yeah, all that stuff. That's literally the difference. Like, I will watch every Green Bay game because I want to see Aaron Rodgers, and he's not there. I won't watch a single one. You're not watching Deshaun Kizer. As a Colts fan, as a Colts fan, you will watch Green Bay if Aaron Rodgers is playing. Yes.

Just because that son of a bitch who says he didn't take Toradol possibly takes Toradol at halftime and leads in week one a 17-zip comeback after not even being able to walk in the first half. It's like, you're not going to be able to watch other players do that. Same thing with Tom Brady. If Tom Brady gets hurt, you're like, well, a lot of people might just

watch a train wreck, to be honest. But whenever they were building, people were like, well, I want to watch Tom Brady work. Peyton Manning was the same thing. I want to watch Peyton Manning play. But you get them hurt because of a tackle. people were like, well, I want to watch Tom Brady work. Peyton Manning was the same thing. I want to watch Peyton Manning play, but you get them hurt because of a tackle. It's like, oh, I don't,

I won't watch that anymore. And you know, the networks are behind all this. They have those fucking meetings with the NFL. They're like, well, are you guys going to get the fucking stars hurt again? NFL?

No, we'll make rules about it. That's definitely how it all comes to be. You know, it's one of those situations tonight. Bengals and Ravens. Yep. AFC North Showdown.

Into Natty. Throw out the rule book. Record books. That too. These two teams, there's no love lost. No love lost here. Andy Dalton, potential playmaker of the year if he beats the Ravens tonight in Cincinnati.

Who you got? Marvin Lewis gets another 10-year extension if he wins on Thursday night football. I got the Ravens. I have no idea anybody that plays for the Bengals other than Kevin Huber and Andy Dalton. That's literally the only two people I know. And Randy Bullock's a kicker, I think.

AJ Green's the other name you should know. Besides that, Geno Atkins. Joe Mixon. Lisa Ann told us. Be high on Joe Mixon. He had a big week one. Be high on Joe Mixon. Oh, yeah. Fantasy expert. Lisa Ann. He had a big week one. And he did, didn't he?

She was spot on with that. She told me to take Cole Beasley. I did. He had a decent week. Not the best. He's a rapper. He always has a good flex play. So I do know the Bengals.

Yeah, you do. And the Ravens, what they do week one, they blew out the Bills. Yeah. Blew out the Bills. They're riding high. How's T-Sizzle playing? Old shrugs. Old socks. Old socks. He's so old. I don't know how he's still doing it. But it's early out the bills. Yeah, blew out the bills. They're riding high. How's T-Sizzle playing? Old shrugs, old socks, old socks. He's so old.

I don't know how he's still doing it. But it's early in the year. Old men early in the year still feel good. He'll probably take a couple games off. I assume he only had to play a quarter, too. Like, they were up 21-0 in the first. They got Justin Tucker, Sam Cook, too. Flacco's elite again.

Crabtree actually caught the ball. It was wild. That's all Crabtree does, dude. You make fun of him for running slow? Crabtree runs good routes and catches the ball. He's led the league in drops the past few years. Really? I mean, he came out of college, had the best hands ever,

but sometimes he gets a little lackadaisical. Oh, he's not focusing as hard as he could. He does have those nice Jordan brand cleats, though. Yeah. Always got that chain on, too. Keep the leap. Give me that a couple times. Give me that a couple times. Give me that a couple times.

I got the Ravens tonight. Minus one is what they are. I'm taking them, and I'm also taking the under. Thursday Night Football, who's that? Is that Collinsworth? This year, it's actually Fox, I think. I think it got moved to Fox. It is Fox.

And Amazon paid a shit ton of money for these Thursday Night games, $70 million or something. So it should be your boys, Joey Buck and Aikman, I believe. I can't wait to listen to them. I can't wait to listen to them. I can't wait to listen to their sensual voices. People hate on Joe Buck all the time. I don't know why. I think him and Tariq are the only people that can call anything.

He's so good. So good. And those hair plugs addiction? I'm all about Joe Buck. I think ever since the Monday Night Football game, a lot of people are going to change their mind about Joe Buck. Somebody's going to be like, oh, I fucking hate Joe Buck. You remember that Monday Night Football game, a lot of people are going to change their mind about Joe Bucks. Somebody's going to be like, oh, I fucking hate Joe Bucks. You remember that Monday Night

Football game? Those are just the classic you don't know what you got until it's gone. Because football only plays one game a week for your team, there's not local broadcasters. It's all national. So there's no other option. So if you were to hear someone else call the game, they're probably going to do it in a terrible fashion. Well, Archie Manning,

he was like one or two bottles of red wine deep talking to my dad about the old days back whenever the aints would play the steelers and he had his teeth were all red you know and i think eli was playing there watch my dad was watching the giants play and uh joe buck was calling the game. Joe Buck hates Eli, man. I don't know why. And my dad was like, oh, fuck Joe Buck. My dad is just like, yeah, whatever, Archie. I'll ride with you, you know?

And I think Archie even was like, but he's good, you know? He's good at what he does. Everybody, if somebody says that you hate everybody, that's probably what you're looking for as a commentator, right? Yes. But now, granted, you could love everybody, too. That's the difference between a hype man, I guess, and a negative prick. Well, especially in Buck's position, Fox is always doing the NFC games,

and they're always going to be primetime, like the Giants or Dallas. So everyone's going to assume he either loves or hates Dallas or loves or hates the Giants. Jerry Jones owns Fox, right? I mean, it seems as if they're always on TV. Yep. Right? Yeah, they're America's Game of the Week almost every week.

They're there because they get the ratings. Ratings down in Dallas for the first time in a long time. When you don't score any points. Well, that doesn't make them choose to not watch at the beginning. Something's happening in Dallas. And he was with Des Bryant right at a Beyonce and Jay-Z concert. And did you see? There was a harem of women dancing behind them.

I was so... A harem. You hear that? Pretty good. Pretty good word. There was a harem of women dancing behind him, though. And then Dez and Jerry just sitting there. I'm like, this doesn't make any sense.

Because Dez spent the entire weekend literally sawing Don, the Dallas Cowboys. Oh, and Dan Bailey, LOL, the whole thing. Made fun of the coach a couple times. And here's Jerry smoozing with them while Jay and Bay are up there rocking. I think it's a very interesting move. Is Dez coming back to the Cowboys? Martavis did it. Went back to the Raiders.

Yeah, but he didn't fucking dog the Raiders publicly for a while. All weekend. Yeah, everybody else dog-grewed all weekend. Not Martavis. That's how I wish we could have got to the quarterback more. It was one of the least self-aware things I've ever seen in my life. $90 million is a lot of money, man.

I mean, maybe he could put Marty at the end. He's basically just a skinnier Bruce Irvin. You think Martavis Bryant and Bruce Irvin are cut from the same cloth? I mean, they're both aliens. Bruce Irvin is a dog, bro. Oh, I know. That guy is a dog.

I don't think Martavis is a dog. Bruce is running like a 4-4 coming off the edge. And he hates everybody. He was literally living on the street at one point. Bruce Irvin was literally living on the street at one point. Homeless human. Just a dog. Hates everybody.

He likes me. I'm very lucky that he likes me. We've tapped each other up a couple times at the West Virginia thing. I'm very happy about that because Bruce is a hell of a player. Martavis isn't a dog enough. And the reason why I know that is because if you're a dog, you don't want to miss games. You don't want to get suspended.

Bruce Irvin, very different. He's an animal of a human being on the field. He's come from a lot of hard-time stories, but we're talking about actual homeless shit. A lot of hard-time stories in the NFL. Success normally comes from tough circumstances. That is something that can drive a lot of people. But Martavis, I don't think he's a dog enough

because he's willing to fail a test. He's willing to not get rich because he's doing something stupid. In my eyes, I think they're different humans. But you put Marty on a fucking field, though, and you line him up outside, that is a human that can really do some damage for you. Yeah, I was talking strictly athletic ability. Does he care at all?

Does Martavis Bryant care at all? And does it matter if he cares? Does it matter? Because I don't think he cared with the Steelers, and I saw him score, what, 16 touchdowns against the Colts in one night. That motherfucker got one off his head that a front foot. I believe he cares when he's in between those lines, yeah. You think he does?

Yeah. He's an alien. I never saw him, like, dogging it on the field. Did he get paid for the Steelers? No, because he left before his rookie contract ended. And he was up for another suspension, they said. And it's still unclear whether he's going to get suspended for another year again. And John Gruden was like, hey, we'll use him.

If they ain't going to suspend him for three weeks, man, we can get a couple of deep balls out of the alien, man. You think it's weird that... Hey, man. Locker room smelled like skunk this week. Yeah! They got that day!

I really enjoyed that. Mike Florio. Mike Florio. Mike Florio posted a photo of a skunk in there. And the Raiders stink. Not just on the football field or something like that. And I wanted to respond with the Pineapple Express. Whenever they're sitting behind the tree and they're smoking and pointing. That's such a funny thought that John Gruden is like,

something smells like a skunk. I don't think it's a skunk, John. Yo, they're Gruden grinding up a lot of weed. Oh, they just call the grinder that's the greeter? When I played, we played in Oakland one time, and it was the first time after the weed was legalized. This was the game that Peyton did, the play-action 30-yard run to seal it, if you do recall.

One of the greatest moments of Peyton's career I think I've ever witnessed, because he was at the age where he wasn't an athlete anymore. And even when he was younger, he was a giraffe running looking motherfucker. So then he gets older and there was a D lineman on the Raiders. It was at the end of the game. It was an important game. And

Peyton makes a call. And his D lineman goes, it's going out loud. He goes, it's going right here. Because he was with the Colts. So he knew the actual call, right? I think Dominic Rhodes was in the backfield too at the time. And the D lineman's like, it's going right here. He shifts the line, this D lineman, who out of nowhere,

like while Peyton's under center, Peyton is less than 14 inches away from this guy calling out where the ball is going. And Peyton just goes, okay. And he just pulls it himself. He pulls it himself. I don't even think Dommy knew it was happening. And then he scampers for 35 yards. He slides it like the five-yard line.

We kneel it out or whatever. And all you hear is, I guess, all the Raiders defense was like, you dumb mother fucker. Peyton could not wait to tell the story on the plane ride home. Could not wait. Because he knew it was going to be a topical conversation. Anytime Peyton runs, the whole world stops, right? And then whenever the story leads into that the D lineman was like,

it's going right here. And Peyton is literally making eye contact while he's saying. And that guy might have been right, by the way. I think that guy was 100% right. And then in the end, though, in that Raiders locker room right after the game, that D lineman walks in and everybody's like, you dumb motherfucker. Why would you tell Peyton that we know where the fuck it's going? Why don't you just run there?

Seriously. What are you doing? But that game, there was a haze. It was the first time I've ever been a part of a stadium where there was a haze above it. Like a weed haze. It the first time i've ever been a part of a stadium where there was a haze above like a like a weed haze it was awesome it was absolutely awesome there was a legit haze and you could smell it it was it was beautiful and everybody obviously comes to me because they knew i was a vitamin intaker you know he's pretty wild i was like what i feel like i'm literally in a heaven right like in the clouds literally in, literally in the clouds. It was awesome. It was absolutely awesome.

That's just the difference with states that legalize it. Did you play in Denver after it was legal? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, you talked about it. Remember, we were in a hotel, and they gave a speech the night before. No matter what you do, nobody can go to any dispensaries. And then I go into my hotel room, and the windows are open,

and I see a motherfucking dispensary less than a block away with a guy with a gun outside. And I had to shut the blinds and lock myself in there because it was just like getting very tempting. We had two hours until a team meeting and I'm just I'm ordering room service. I'm eating a pizza like, man, this thing could taste a lot better. If only there was something that I could walk to. They're like, do you told your room service? Can you just go down there real quick?

Excuse me, I see it's a block away. I see the guy with the fucking gun outside. Is there any way you could just walk in there and give me some kush? Just come back, that'd be very nice of you. I've never been in a dispensary though, because I, good teammate, did not go. You'd clean it out.

I assume you'd walk in there and be like, I don't know, just give me all this. Chuck talking to me though though, was awesome. Pat, listen, can't have you go into any dispensaries. It's legal in Colorado. It's not legal in the NFL. Okay, listen, I don't need that distraction. You go, then we got the entire defense going.

We don't need that. I'm like, okay, all right. I'll just fucking lock myself in my goddamn jail cell and i know that it's right down the street i posted that photo yesterday it was a throwback for the throwback thursday photo on wednesday let's have a day completely forgot thought it was thursday by the way that's that's how i'm living right now that's a way back wednesday baby you're goddamn right just with a tbt in there instead uh but i i posted about chuck pagano's travel rules and chuck did have the strict we had an entire meeting in training

camp about what's allowed and what isn't allowed so if you wear dress pants you don't have to wear a tie if you don't wear dress pants you have to wear a sport coat and a tie if your shirt doesn't have at least four buttons and a collar on it you can't wear it like there's an entire list no white soles on your shoes so guys had like gucci shoes they're like four hundred dollars they had white soles chuck chuck can't do it can't wear them take them to fuck off the right so chuck was a very he was a stickler for i want to look good he's an italian i mean that's what you would say i do like the if then though with a little logic statement there that's good yeah so if options if you're wearing dress pants you don't have to wear a sport coat. If you have jeans on, nice jeans, by the way.

They can't have any rips in them, no white seams. If you have that, you have to wear a sport coat. It was like he had rules. It was a full rules session. He was like, I'm going to be wearing my Ferragamo. I'm going to be wearing a couple thousand dollar shoot. Try to look as good as me. I don't want to look with a bunch of fucking bumpsums whenever it was just a beautiful thing right so i took his rules

and i hired a local seamstress and i turned t-shirts black t-shirts into five button having polos and she put on a collar on the top like a big collar so i literally made my own line of shirts traveling wore the same ones every single travel. I had these black pants that were AG, so they were stretchy pants, but they looked like dress pants, so I didn't have to wear the sport coat, and I just wore these T-shirts, right?

I walk on the plane the first time. Chuck goes, you're such a fucking asshole. I go, Chuck, five buttons right here. Got a collar, dress pants here, and dress shoes. There ain't nothing we can do about this here. This is all of your rules to a tee. He said, you just had to do it, didn't you?

You just had to find a way through it. I'm like, I look good, though. Do I not look good? He was like, I guess. This is not what I thought. If I ever get a head coaching job somewhere else, I'm going to have to alter the rules. If then, if you're're gonna give me loopholes

just i would have hated me too but as i was writing the caption yesterday i was like god i would have fucking hated me coach so he screenshots my instagram post yesterday and texts me and goes you're a fucking idiot i love you man i was like thanks in that photo i look good in it i look good in that photo matt bowen the photographer, took a good shot. Probably the best photo I've ever had of me. I was very thankful. That is good. Those shoes are fire.

Thank you. But the story of literally hiring a seamstress to get through his travel wear is one of my favorites. Because he and I were not boys at the time. He and I were not boys until the USO tour. So it was literally I just walk on and he's like this fucking guy. I think about him and Grigson talking. Chuck would be like, you see what fucking McAfee just did. And Grigson goes, yep, I hate him. I try to get rid of him.

Mercy wouldn't fucking let me, Chuck. That's the way it goes. So is it not the norm when you see players walking into the game like Cam and Beckham and A.B. and like Jalen Ramsey who like liked like they like like to show out and like dress up a lot? Is that the norm in the NFL locker room you gotta remember there's 53 guys on the team right so there's 53 guys you got some rednecks on that offensive line too there's it all depends on the coach there was there's some teams that let you wear like your sweats but you have to have a polo on which is a terrible terrible

I would never in a rich rodriguez did that to us once in college in pat white was like hey dog this looks terrible like you make us wear this polo into these sweats it just didn't look good every coach kind of has their own thing you know because traveling look good feel good they have that whole situation but some coaches are just like fuck it just don't look like an idiot if i got money i'm gonna show out yeah see there's guys like you that want to do that. Yeah, you're an Italian guy. And then Pat Enger, he wore the Colts polo that they gave him on the away games.

That was the only dress shirt he had. It was a Colts polo. And then it was very obvious he got this suit coat from Goodwill. It was like a sport coat that he had on. He had jeans and boots on. It was like, there's a lot of those guys too, you know?

So it's trying to get everybody uniform in travel is a very interesting thing because you've got a lot of different humans in there. You've got a lot of rich humans in there too. So it's a lot of different backgrounds.

Andrew Luck's not much on a tailored fit, is he? No, no. He just goes right off the rack. His shit's right off the rack. Right off the rack. He has a very interesting look, doesn't he?

Yeah. Yeah, the face, the whole thing. His jacket is always way too big. Happy birthday to him, off the rack. His shit's right off the rack. Right off the rack. He has a very interesting look, doesn't he? Yeah. Yeah, the face, the whole thing. His jacket is always way too big. Happy birthday to him, by the way. He's got a real hipster dress up. Oh, did you see that? What's that? Yeah, Lev Bell.

Oh, yeah. I've been on the case here for a couple months. I've been on this case for a couple months. Everybody's starting to pick up on it. I think there was an ESPN station that even started talking about it. Literally, I think two months I've been on this case. Every single Colts post, Lev Bell jumps in on it. And Lev Bell isn't happy in Pittsburgh,

and I think we have the money to pay him. Chris Bauer needs to make that goddamn play. And then Ebron responded to it and said, you could just come tell him to his face, bro. New locker room, fire, too. Got a whole new facility. I told him the other day, I responded to him the other day, told him we got good houses and restaurants out here.

Things very cheap here in Indianapolis. I'm going to turn you guys in for tampering. This is unacceptable. I'm to him the other day. I told him we got good houses and restaurants out here. Things are very cheap here in Indianapolis. I'm going to turn you guys in for tampering. This is unacceptable. I'm a free agent, bro. Shirts on sale today, by the way. At some point this afternoon. New merch on sale. We are all currently unemployed, basically.

So if you would buy merch, we'd appreciate it. Zito was up until like midnight last night designing these shirts. It's very nice of you. Zito, great work by you, by the way. Thank you. It means a lot. You and your goddamn briefcase. It's a good brief you. Zito, great work by you, by the way. Thank you. It means a lot. You and your goddamn briefcase. It's a good briefcase.

Now he's got a tape measure, by the way. It's a whole new Zito. It's nice that we have new merch so I could actually have something to wear to work. It was tough. You had a free agent shirt on for five days. Yeah. I only got two of them.

So you do the math. And one of them was drenched. Yeah, from the Colts concert. Yeah. Because all I had was all my barstool yes and it was like well i just it feels weird putting those on right now after everything that just happened and i had no clothes to wear all i wear is t-shirts and jorts or tanks and jorts it's literally all i wear that's why that dress code with chuck was such an interesting

situation so now we finally and to be honest if you don't buy the merch, it's okay. We'll keep creating them strictly because I need a fucking wardrobe. Strictly because we need a wardrobe over here. Doug Marone says that he hasn't watched a Super Bowl since he started coaching.

That makes no sense to me. I don't believe it. He said it's a reminder that his team failed this season. Doug Marone, he's, now granted, good lifeguard. Him, PFT, big cat there. Shot cons, pool paradise, swimming laps. Doug Marone. Now granted, good lifeguard.

Him, PFT, big cat there. Shotguns, pool paradise, swimming laps. I like that a lot. I like what he did with the Jacksonville Jaguars. I assume last year it was a tough pill to swallow that it was 100% him and his coaching staff's fault why they didn't beat the Patriots, so I might be turned off to it as well. But saying you've never watched

the Super Bowl is just lunacy, especially in the coaching world. You have friends that are probably coaching in the super bowl i'd assume you're pulling for them i and doug maroon seems like a football guy that super bowl seems like a growing up you weren't a fan never turned it on no no since he started he's been a head coach still flip the switch when you yeah like me as a head coach i get i understand that a little bit but like i would just tune in to be like oh this is what like i – I would tune in and be like, maybe not. I'm now second-guessing my theory. Has Doug Merlin never been on a coaching staff and made a Super Bowl?

I don't know. He was with the Bills before the Jags. Makes a lot of sense why they did what they did with Blake Bortles for that New England Patriots game. Never made a fucking Super Bowl once in all of his coaching years. I think that's not normal. I think even as an assistant at some point, you'd normally make it. What year was

the Saints versus Colts? 2009. He was Saints 2006, 2008. That's going to be tough. Drew Brees and his goddamn baby. Fucking baby. We'd be sitting here. We'd be free agents in the media world,

but at least we'd have one Super Bowl ring. If it wasn't for Drew Brees and his miraculous stuff. Oh, I know. Would you wear that every day? No. Nobody does that. That's a sports moment I will never forget. I live it right now, seeing it in my brain,

watching it at my friend's house at the Super Bowl party and that play. Which one? The heartbreaker. live it right now, seeing it in my brain, watching it at my friend's house at the Super Bowl party, and that play. Which one? The heartbreaker. The onside kick? Or the pick six. Or the pick six.

No, the onside kick. The onside kick is the one, huh, that Colts fans really remember? That's the one I remember. Because in my head, the pick six is what I remember. Because, to be honest, it's so early in the game, that onside kick. There's so much in my head that could have happened. I don't even think I stepped on the field in the second half except for to hold the ball. I don't even think I stepped foot on the field

except for a 51-yard field goal hold that was nowhere near going through the uprights with Matt Stover. The full conversation he was having back there before that kick, too, by the way. You would have thought the entire Stover family was back there. Come on, Matt. Come on, Matt. You can do it, Matt stage matt come on jesus help me jesus jesus christ i don't know if he can help you now bub he was that was the only time i think i even stepped on the field in the second half but in my head that pick six was the moment

that just sucked the life out of me because i thought there was a chance for it at any given time but colts fans very much connected to that onside kick. And while I was walking off the field, while the confetti and the baby and the whole thing, I was like, ah, yeah, we'll be back here next year. You know? We almost went completely undefeated. Right.

And then you get in the locker room, and it's just like the sorrow around. It's like everybody knows that this was not a normal year. Peyton Manning disappeared to an island for like a month and a half like literally just went off the grid disappeared reggie wayne i don't even think talked to anybody not that you ever talked to me i don't think you talked to anybody though and you just watched the vets there's just not even it was the most somber environment i'd ever been in in my entire life and i was like oh we're not going back next year aren't we just gonna do this guys we're fine we didn't lose until we chose to lose and then this

shit happened we'll be back next year and then you start seeing the nfl happen where people leave things happen bang bang boom and then two years later we're completely defeated it's like oh this is why it all makes a lot of sense on why everybody was kind of bummed out. It makes a lot of sense. Todd, do you remember when Jerome Bettis fumbled on the one-yard line? And then Ben Roethlisberger tackled Nick Harper. And then Vander Jack, one of the most accurate kickers in history, pushed one wide right?

No. No, you don't. And then do you remember hearing the story that if any other human on the Colts defense would have picked that ball up, it's a touchdown. Nick Harper just so happened to get stabbed in the fucking quad the night before by his girlfriend or fiance or something. Anybody else on the team picks that ball up, it's a touchdown. Just the guy that got stabbed picked it up.

Even though it didn't cost him the game, I have fucking hated Jerome Bennett since that day. Since that day, I hated him. I hate Jerome Bennett just because he sucked on our interview. Yeah, that was horrible. I don't like him the game. I have fucking hated Jerome Bettis since that day. Since that day, I hated Jerome Bettis just because he sucked on our interview. Yeah, that was horrible. I don't like him at all. I could have told you that, that motherfucker. Because of that fumble, you thought he was going to suck on our interview. Yeah.

He was the king of one-yard touchdowns. You're not going to give him one little pass? No. You guys didn't even lose the game. Don't care. It seemed he fumbled that interview as well. That whole farewell bullshit season, they were just giving him Mickey Mouse touchdowns on the one,

and he can't hold on to one? Well, he had that rubber sleeve, too. It seemed as if that was cheating. It was like a grip sleeve he had on. The dome gets a little wet. Yeah, got a little slick there. Ball pops out. Stabbing victim picks it up.

Ben Roethlisberger makes a tackle. It's all changed in the game. I guess Vander Jack did a money symbol, too, before he kicked it. victim picks it up ben roethlisberger makes a tackle it's all changed in the game i guess vanderjack did like a money symbol too before he kicked it he did a money symbol before he kicked it and he almost missed the sideline he like pointed a cower or something yeah he did something but there's a video after of like eight people like cower a few people in the steelers sideline a few people on the cold sideline and they all say he missed it but like their reactions are so different that it's hysterical vanderjack was not well liked okay i went to the same college as him and ended up on

the same uh nfl team as him i've never heard a good story about him that is one human that i've never heard he didn't like him payton and him i guess were friends until he came out and blamed payton and dunungy for losing. And then he went on late night TV and mocked him missing that kick. He went on Letterman and mocked basically the whole operation. And that was when you lose the teammates, by the way. That's something I've always been very proud of is that my teammates have always liked me. And I think that's a very big deal.

But Vanderjack and also equipment managers, athletic trainers, the team, I very much took a lot of pride in that. Vander Jack, though, never heard a good story about him. Not a single. I haven't heard of him since either. West Virginia, nothing but bad stories about him. Indianapolis Colts, they don't talk about him ever. He's like somebody that never existed.

And then every once in a while a story will pop up and it will not be a favorable one. It's like a bad one, you know. Vinatieri said whenever he was up in New England, because kickers, we all deal with K-balls. So kickers deal with K-balls. And your equipment manager and the away team's equipment manager break into balls for 30 minutes before the game. It's very much a kicker's fraternity thing. And we always, it's very, just like you're going to hear from me and Shane, the punting kicking community is normally pretty tight.

There's some douchebags in there. Jay Feeley's one of them. Vanderjack was also another one because of this story I heard. Now, I never worked with Vanderjack. I've never met Vanderjack. So this is all just hearsay and third-party stories. But Vanderjack was a guy who would tell the equipment manager to send in the terrible ball for like a big kick for the

away team so so yeah so vinatieri would have to go out on the field and they would see like ball seven so there's seven balls you break in the first four for the k ball so the first four balls are broken in equipment managers deal with the k ball ref yeah hey here's the four balls that the ref's okayed here you go we're going to use these now granted if there's four punt returns to the house and the returners keep the balls then you got to go fuck we got to use the last three that haven't been broken in at all a broken in ball takes five to seven yards added to it so it's like a five to seven yard difference if you have a stronger leg not as much but it's still a pretty big difference there and

i guess vanderjack was a notorious guy that whenever somebody had to kick a field goal or it was a big moment, would somehow get the shitty ball and throw it in there and just fuck over the other guy. It's just like all these stories I hear about him are just bad. Now, is that true? I don't know.

I don't know if that's true. And I don't know if that happened to Vinatieri or if he's just telling a story of something he heard because I don't think Vinny's ever met him either. Vinny came in after he left. It's just every story you hear about him, not good. It's not good. And that sucks.

That sucks to have that as your legacy, you know? Well, and Peyton wasn't really outspoken like that. Like, was he when he, like, took a shot at him, you know, calling him an idiot kicker, saying he got liquored up at the Pro Bowl? Like, he doesn't usually do that, does he? Liquored up idiot kicker. I'm at the Pro Bowl. He doesn't usually do that, does he? Liquored up idiot kicker. I'm at the Pro Bowl. I'm playing football with a lot of the best players on earth.

I'm not worried about a liquored up idiot kicker making a comment. And it was because he came out and talked shit on Peyton and Dungeon. And they asked him in the Pro Bowl interview with Peyton, do you have any thoughts on what Mike Vanderjack had to say? And Peyton's like, I just threw a touchdown to fucking, I think, Randy Moss, possibly. I'm not worried about it. I think anytime you take a shot

at Peyton Manning in Indianapolis, and then he responds, probably count your days. Guy's got a fucking statue. He was disowned by all fans. Guy's got a statue up there. You're not going to take a shot at that guy. Human, who I'm really good friends with, and you're going to learn a lot about right now, I think.

This guy, he opened up a bit, actually. Just a good old boy. Been around football a long goddamn time. Experienced his first cut just a couple weeks ago. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is the GOAT. That's actually what I call him whenever he calls or we speak on the phone. What up, GOAT? Seven-time Pro Bowler, nine-time All-Pro, which means the media liked him. He was most recently on the Houston Texans. He was a mainstay on the

Raiders for a long time with Janikowski. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm saying this, he's going to be the second punter inducted into the Hall of Fame, absolute living legend for the brand, Shane Old Ass Leckler. Thanks, Pat. Did you enjoy that? I had to sneak in that old ass in there because that's exactly what you are. I heard it. Yeah, you're old as balls. What are you up to these days, man? Houston Texans went with a rookie you are. You're old as balls. What are you up to these days, man?

Houston Texans, went with a rookie instead of the old grizzled vet. What are you up to now? Nah, you know, just kind of, I mean, I'm still punting a little bit during the week. You know, not the kicking schedule that they had me on. It's pretty much like once, maybe twice a week, and that's it. Just trying to stay ready in case anybody needs somebody later on in the year, like around Thanksgiving. So you're just sending a heads-up to everybody.

By the way, if you're thinking about making a playoff run, it's a little bit later in the season. Old Shane Leckler will be ready to go. So you are still going to keep at it? Yeah, I am. I'm not going to, you know, kind of talk to the wife and kids and stuff. I'm not going to retire until, you know, probably after the Super Bowl.

Just because, I mean, I spent the entire all-season program, did all that, you know, all the running, all the lifting, never missed a day, you know, and all through training camp. I feel like that would be a waste if I just threw it away right now. So, I'm just going to stay, you know, prepared as much as much as I need to and uh

you know i'll listen to any phone calls anybody send out any feelers to shane lickler uh no not really i know there's a couple of teams that kind of uh after watching the first week i think there's a couple teams that may need someone uh will you pick and choose where you go will it it be a good situation? The Pittsburgh Steelers fans tweet me every single time Jordan Berry goes on the field to come out. I'm assuming there's some other spots that you've looked at after watching the first week. Will you pick

and choose? I've had, I'm not on Twitter at all, but I've heard those exact words. Either if you're going to come out of retirement or I'm going to go up there, maybe I don't know, whatever's going on with that. How are you feeling? How is the body?

Towards the end of last year, did your leg get tired, and was it the first time in your long, very historic and incredible career, did you feel like you still had it at the end of the year last year, or are you feeling just like your mid-30s, early 30s still? Well, you know, like towards the end of the year, you know, I was kind of pressing to kind of make another Pro Bowl there, and I ended up a little over 49, and

I was like, you know what, let's go out and swing hard, you know, each time, and let's redline a few of these and see what happens, and then I was, you know, I was just kind of chasing another Pro Bowl. We were 2-14, I mean, so I was a little bit, I guess you would say selfish in a sense but you know I was trying to trying to get back to the Pro Bowl one more time and then you know I felt

great going you know through the last part of the season I hit a lull there in the middle man I just it was just like you know you start losing so many games you're like Jesus I can't you know shake this you know he starts bugging you in the locker room. And on an everyday basis, you know, driving in every morning, you're like, shit, you know, what is he going to say today? You know, I'm tired of hearing we're so close, we're so close. No, we're not. We're 2-10.

I'm just, you know, I just would say, you know, I was ready to go another year for sure, especially coming off of last year. I mean, I was second or third or whatever in gross average. I never thought I'd be beat out by a rookie. So you feel, you felt very good going into the year this year. Is another Pro Bowl something that'll help you with closure with your career? I mean, you've accomplished literally everything you could accomplish as a punter.

You had a lot. No, the only thing would be, the only thing, to be straight, honestly, Pat, the only reason I'm still playing this game and winning a Super Bowl, that's it. That's the only reason. Your dick is a lot bigger when you have a Super Bowl. I agree. You live in Houston full-time.

You got a chance to go back home there. That's why you left the Raiders. How is life in Texas and in Houston at the moment? It's good. We're getting a shitload of rain right now man this is ridiculous and we got something else about to pick up in the gulf so i don't know hopefully it's not a hurricane and um i know that people up in north carolina south carolina probably about to go through what we had to go through last year so you know i know what they're about to go through it's going to suck for a few months uh you're a stay-at-home dad now kicking every once in a while what are you doing you just stay at home dad yeah i know when i'm working i went up work with the uh the high school kids the other day went playing with those guys and uh man that's different

yeah dang those coaches are screaming at those kids for no reason. I was like, jeez, I don't know how you guys put up with this. But, you know, when I'm working with the kids up there, and I've got to report back that the first punt the kid hit was like 46 yards, fair call inside the 10. I was like, dude, just skip college. At the Texans, Bill O'Brien was there. Deshaun Watson comes in.

Dabo Swinney called him the Michael Jordan of football, basically. When you were there, you got a chance to witness a lot of things happen. I mean, you've been in the league a long time. You've seen the rules change. You've seen the media change. You've been through a couple CBAs. You've been there, done that with everything. Do the Houston Texans have a legit team if they can keep it together down there?

I think they do. Deshaun was one of the first quarterbacks, unless you date all the way back to my rookie, my first two years in the league where we had Rich Gannon who was league MVP. God, you are so fucking old. Deshaun is the first guy that I've ever, even down 14 or 10, going into the fourth, you never felt out of it. Never felt out of a game with DeJuan at quarterback. And, you know, Dabo can say what he wants to about the Michael Jordan deal.

I think that's a big shoe to fill. But, you know, I think they got what they need at the quarterback situation. Is J.J. Watt the superhuman for real, or what is he? Man, dude, I'm waiting for him to mess up, do something wrong, because there's no possible way you're this good a guy and football player constantly. But, you know, he's one of my really good friends on the team. Matter of fact, when I signed with the Texans out of Oakland, he was the first guy to reach out to me.

We've been friends ever since. And the whole time I'm like, dude, something's going to happen. Something's going to come out. Because there's no way you're this perfect. He's like Tim Tebow without all the corniness. Exactly. And he's good. And he's really good.

You told me the other day on the phone that you and Cushing just kind of hang out what's Cushing up to how are you guys boys what do you do drink beers what does Cushing do no man we um you know we go bow hunting a lot down at I got I leave some land uh not far from my house right now and we go bow hunting and hang out down there at the property a lot and do shit like that i mean kush i got kush into bow hunting about a year ago and now he's probably as addicted to that as you can get so um you know we're just waiting for benetary to give us a call to go up to his place he's got now dude he's making bank off of that too it's like a country club for hunting hunters up there

yeah i know so that'd be a good place to do our next show in person. Oh yeah, you think? I'll send a text over to Vinny. I'm sure if I drop your name in there, he'll give it up for free. For me, he's trying to charge me triple. The NFL is in a weird place right now. Weird place. PR-wise, the game-wise,

ratings-wise, politic-wise, the NFL is in such a weird place, PR-wise, the game-wise, ratings-wise, politic-wise. The NFL is in such a weird place, Shane. What's the future of the NFL? Man, I don't, to be honest with you, I don't like what I see because never in a million years would I have thought, now granted, I live here in Houston, would I have thought baseball would climb in front of the NFL as far as entertainment-wise. But granted, I'm watching the Astros, you know, every night they're on.

And, but I don't, man, it's kind of, it's getting to be a point of annoying or disgusting at the same time. I don't know, I don't know any other words to put for it because that's supposed to be the best game ever played. And right now there's a bunch of stuff going on that is just not the game anymore. It's not how, when you came to the league, it's not how it was.

It's damn sure not how it was when I came to the league. So, you know, I don't know. It's frustrating because it's such a great sport and it's one of the few sports that it takes all 11 on the same page at the same time to make one thing work and uh and right now there's so many distractions on what's going on off of it and with everything it's just you know whenever they called me in and they kind of released me and I drove home, I was like, well, it's not the game I started playing. But it's still a great game, but it's got some issues. Was it an amicable split between you and the Texans?

It was strange, man. It was a weird deal because, of course, I've never been through it. And so now I can say I've done everything except win a Super Bowl. But I got called in. I was at the house. I was expecting a phone call. So I get called in, and I was literally in the building less than seven minutes. Oh, and hand over your iPad, hand over your fob to get in.

I didn't even go to my locker. I told the equipment guy, bag my shit up, send it to my house. I'm going to go meet with a coach. They knew where my iPad was. It's never been turned on. I just took the charger because I needed it. That's it. My iPad is sitting where it was

the day they gave it to me. You're a legend of the game. Whenever you're the greatest of all time at a position, you're a legend of the game whenever you're the greatest of all time at a position you're a legend of a game that's what you are will you try to be a guy that influences the future of the nfl or whenever you're done with it after you sail off after this super bowl will you just kind of disappear forever or will you be a guy who's around whether it's with the nfl pa or the nfl or anything like that no I don't see myself doing anything like that. You know, I'm not going to disappear from the game because this is a game that I grew

up loving my dad from the day of. My dad won a state championship the year I was born as a high school football coach. He coached for 18 years. And then I go on to college and I've never been away from this game ever until right now. This is the first time I've been away from this game ever until right now this is the first time I've been away from it since day one and I don't see myself leaving it I definitely see myself helping out some of these high schools around here and um I don't know Jenikowski texted me

the other day and want to know if we want to do a kicking camp um you know starting whenever he retires or he's done and I was like you know? There's a lot of guys getting paid to coach these punters or do these camps that have zero credibility. And they're getting paid a whole lot of money to do this. And I thought, you know, that's not a bad idea. But, you know, Jenikowski, just go in. See if we can do some camps across the country and maybe do that or maybe not do anything.

Oh, fuck. We teach them kick. We get money we drink one of my favorite comments he looks good in that uniform didn't he did you see him oh yeah oh i saw him dude he he the polish cannon is in full force right now in seattle yeah love that guy uh my i do too my favorite conversation I've ever had in my entire life, we played against you and Janikowski up there, and I was in the substance abuse policy

substance abuse program because of what happened with me, and Janikowski walks up to me, thanks me for taking the heat off his back for being the drunk kicker. And then I'm like, man, they're not letting me do anything, and Janikowski goes, go on cruise. What are they going to do, land on boats?

That's exactly what he used to do, too, man. The season would end, he was like, hey, I'm going to be on a cruise with him. You're an absolute legend, man. Absolute legend. I hope you find a good home to finish your career out. You've done so much for so many punters. I used to watch your film every single week when I was learning how to punt. I was just trying to be you, man.

You're an absolute legend. If you ever do those camps with Janikowski, I'd love to get involved too, teach these kids how to bomb some balls. Sounds good, man. You'll be the first guy I call because I'm not going to have too many punters in there. So just kind of, you know, me and you, that's it. We'll shut this down right there. I like that. Maybe we bring in a couple rookiesies to take both of our jobs and keep it moving yeah there we go hey ladies and gentlemen a future hall of famer

absolute legend guy that taught me how to kick balls basically by watching his film uh guy who i hope gets on a team too by the way seven weeks on a team six gets on a team, too. By the way, seven weeks on a team, six weeks on a team, that leg's going to be jumping. Yeah, it'll be ready. I mean, you know, like I said, the kicking schedule we had in camp and OTAs and minicamp, man, that was absolutely brutal. I really felt like a rookie again. I was like, all right, I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to kick me out of the game.

So there's no respect. You felt kind of disrespected, I assume. Oh, yeah. I don't like that at all, by the way. I want to let you know that I don't like that you felt that way. I mean, it is what it is. Yeah, but you've done a lot for the fucking game. It comes to a point where it's like, hey, some people be who you can afford to be.

When you're Shane Leckler, you can be who you can afford to be. You are the guy. I want you to know that. I don't like that. You can be who you can afford to be. You are the guy. I want you to know that. I don't like that. I hope you find a new home kick somewhere. The game needs you, brother. I appreciate you so much, and thanks for coming on, Shane. All right.

Take care, Pat. Appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, Shane Leckler. Thank you, Shane. Yeah, bro. Hey, you're really good at talking, by the way. You're really good at talking. You should think about doing this in the future if it ever happens uh all right we'll talk about it at vinnie's deal so just go

ahead and get that lined up you're an idiot i'll talk to you later bye see ya not an amicable split there no not at all seven minutes he said he was that's the greatest punter of all time that guy's gonna be a hall of famer that guy is probably beloved by the houston texans teammates he said him and jj watt are best friends the post that jj watt put up whenever shane was cut was like glowing endorsement obviously i'd assume he's loved by everybody to get feel disrespected like that i don't like that one bit i i honest you can disrespect me i'm just some bum but fucking shane leckler come on I honest, you can disrespect me. I'm just some bum, but fucking Shane Leckler.

Come on. I didn't like that. I didn't know that. That's tough to hear. 20 years in the league in this. Hey, you're done. Get out. Well, it's not even that.

They try to kick him out. So whenever, because Dick said he heard him say kicking schedule early in the interview. And I kind of just passed right over it. I missed it. But then at the end there, he was talking about how they were basically trying to kick him out, which is something you can definitely do because time waits for no man. No. Nature will take over at some point. You got to really count your reps as you get older, whether you're a pitcher, quarterback,

punter, kicker, all these things. You got to count your reps so you're not wasting things. If they were kicking his ass every day, they were legitimately trying to just wear him out so they can get rid of him. I just think you shouldn't be using the greatest of all time, just using and abusing a guy. At least have a conversation with him.

Hey, we're thinking about going with a rookie instead of just punishing him, basically, which is what you're doing if you have him kick every day. They didn't even have me kicking every day. I don't like that with Shane Leckler. That's fucked up. Well, you have Shane Leckler on fourth downs, and your offense can't do it for 20 years,

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is going to be this guy we talk to next. Such an interesting character. Yeah, very good. From a soap opera to becoming one of the NFL Network's premier personalities, you're going to enjoy this. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a TV star. In more than one way. He was on Days of Our Lives, a nice soap opera actor.

Like the sands of an hourglass, so are the days of our lives. He was once a cast member on The Real World, Chicago to be exact. And now every single morning you can watch him on NFL Network, on the greatest morning show on television, Good Morning Football. This Friday, a new show with him hosting his debuting. An hour before Carson Palmer's A Football Life, you can catch the Kyle Brandt football experience on NFL Network. Ladies and gentlemen, super football brain and personality, Kyle Brandt.

Well, let me tell you something mean, kid. Wow, Pat, that was incredible. Thank you so much. Hey, no problem. I just got a promo for you there, Kyle. I think you are really doing incredible things. That Good Morning Football show, I've never been invited onto it, but watching it, it's an incredible show. You guys do a great job.

Do you want to come on? Nope. Why not? Well, I'm at the point now where you haven't invited me for numerous years. The show's been on, and I'm at the point now you can all eat shit. All right. I guess we'll miss out on you. It's all right. Thanks. You broke up there a little bit.

The Kyle Brandt Football Experience debuting on Friday at 6 o'clock. What is it going to be? What's it going to be about? I can't wait to watch it. I honestly enjoy the hell out of you on television. Oh, thanks, Matt. I enjoy you too, man. It's going to be nuts.

I think you're going to love it. The network has decided, in all its wisdom or insanity, to give me a half an hour on Fridays. And it's awesome, Pat, because it's like Friday at 6 Eastern. It's like the work week is over. The football is coming. I'm ordering Indian food and opening beer and sitting down on the couch. It's an awesome

pocket of time. And they're going to put me not on like a TV set or a desk or a miniature football field or something like that. I'm in a control room surrounded by 50 monitors and like 5,000 buttons and I can play any play from any player in any game ever.

There's going to be like a heavy nostalgia that rolls through this show. We'll have the best highlight from week six, but also the best highlight from when you were six years old. I think it's going to be really cool. You'll like it. Are you coming live from the NFL Films Vault? Because I've heard these incredible stories about the NFL Films Vault.

No, I've been in the vault. I have. I've been in the one with Miles Orrell, but this will be from New York City. Have you ever been toms vault? No, I've been in the vault. I have. I've been in the one with Miles Orrell, but this will be from New York City. Have you ever been to the vault? It's really cool. It's freezing. No, I did a little bit of work with the NFL Network, and I heard about it.

I've heard nothing but these incredible stories about the vault, and it sounds like with the Kyle Brandt football experience, you get all the access to the vault that you could possibly want just in a control room in New York City. Am I right? Yeah, and everybody comes through. I'm going to ask you the question. Everybody comes through.

It's the same thing. We love football, or we played it, or we watch it, but all of us also have either one player or one moment or one game when we were kids and we were growing up that hooked us and said either I want to watch this game or I want to play this game. What was that moment for you? What was your first? Randy Moss mooning the crowd,

getting fined in the parking lot, asking him if he's wrote the check yet. When you're rich, you don't write checks. Well, how do you plan on paying? Straight cash, homie. What's 10 grand to me? Next time I'll shake my dick. You call the show, Pat, and I will have you physically press a button in front of you.

And we bring up the whole Randy Moss movie and it shows off. And that is a disgusting act. We apologize to our viewers. We'll do it all. And then we'll do a homie. And we have actually the iffy things. You'll tell the story why that play. And then we'll finish Talking about Like the modern Vikings

And what they got going on You'll love it How did you become Such a diehard I saw you cut a promo For the Philadelphia Eagles Are you from Philadelphia That went viral by the way

Great work by you The shirt you were wearing Was electric That's on the internet You can follow him At Kyle Brand I believe Are you a diehard Eagles fan How did you get into

The love of the NFL Not Eagles at all. In fact, I was born and raised in Chicago. I mean, my first memory is the Super Bowl shuffle, 1985 Bears, Refrigerator Perry, Sweetness, all of that. I mean, I was so lucky because I grew up in Chicago when I was a little kid.

It was the 85 Bears, Jim McMahon, and maybe the coolest team ever. And when I got to junior high and high school, it was the Jordan Bowl. So I was just blessed to be on this planet at some of the coolest team ever. And when I got at junior high and high school, he was the Jordan Bolt. So I was just blessed to be on this planet at some of the coolest times ever. The Philadelphia thing, it was just random. You do the show every day throughout the playoffs, and one day back in January

when the Eagles were about to host the Falcons in the divisional round, and they were the first one seed to ever be an underdog at home, I started to scream on TV about how stupid it was and how everyone was just thinking that since they lost their quarterback, they have no shot of winning,

and they ran this and ran there. And then, you know, the people in Philadelphia, man, if you say that no one believes in them and you do, they're eating out of your hand. So that's how it happened. I've been to Philadelphia, like, three or four times in my life, and twice when I was a college player

to get my ass kicked by a pen at Franklin Field. So I have very few ties to Philadelphia other than I love the Eagles. So you're a diehard Bears fan still, or are you just now becoming an NFL fan strictly because you have a morning show and you can't show bias? It's not even that I care about the bias.

I'm the character on the show. I can be as biased as I want. I don't have to be the big J objective. At this point, I make my living talking about this stuff, so I'm a huge fan of whatever team just does stuff to talk about. You know what I mean? Whatever it is. I don't care if the Bears win or lose.

So if somebody posts something on Instagram or something in the end zone, it's a conversation. That's my favorite player on my favorite team. So Aaron Rodgers, what he did to the Chicago Bears, the place you're from, on Sunday night, all tore it all up afterwards, gives an incredible interview, leads them back. That must have been just gold in your eyes

for good morning football. It was gold, man. And I've never really seen something like that. Again, coming from Chicago, for 15 years as Bears fans, you're like, God damn Brett Sharp. We cannot beat this hillbilly. We cannot do it. We hate him. And then we're like, God, goddamn Brett Sharp. We cannot beat this hillbilly. We cannot do it. We hate him.

And then we're like, we got to get his floor out of here so we can finally win. We get him out of there, and then they bring in Rodgers, who's better, and a decade and a half of that. And it's like, the other night was supposed to be different, man. I mean, we got weapons now.

We spent big money, and our GM did this, and we got a quarterback and a coach, and he's hurt, and we're going to beat him. That movie, Pat, played out, and I feel like I was watching The Resonance. It was just like that. Kalu Mac is the giant bear, and it's perfect. He's a bear, 8,000 pounds, and he's stomping on the Packers' head and bleeding them out, and he's going to crush their skull right there on television.

And then, sure enough, the Diaprio gets up and he kills the bear and he comes off from the bed and he survives the winter that's what aaron rogers is the reason he's the bear killer like he's immortal he can't kill he's wearing the bear skin in that interview afterwards just walking through the woods yeah you know how he doesn't put on that belt anymore that's the state something he puts on one of those necklaces with bear claws on it that they used to have back in the day. He killed them. You can't win. Listen, Pat. Nobody comes back from the cart.

You can go on the training table, go in the little tent, you go in. If you were on the cart, the very best scenario is your night is over. More likely, your year is over. You got Al Michaels on the call of that game who's called every game for 50 years who says offhandedly well we know rogers is done for the night we'll have to look no he

came back and walked out like the undertaker and he was like he was like the dead man and just tore their heart out so poor sweet bears terrible they were having a full memoriam for uh the nfl in general for losing a character like aaron rogers all the way through the halftime show. They even got Tariqo in on it. I mean, the entire league was having it. And then all of a sudden, Aaron Rodgers comes back. Same old song and dance. The Revenant metaphor is incredible.

Let's get into this, though. Your brain is a good one. Were you a stand-up comedian? My producer said you were the producer for the Jim Rome show for a long time. How did you kind of find your way into this? From soap operas and reality shows to now being a hilarious talking head about the NFL, how did you kind of find your way in here? Pat, you have a really diverse, interesting resume that is getting more interesting and diverse by the day. And I love that, man.

I respect that about you because I always say that there are millions and millions of people who have a better resume than me, but I don't think anybody's as weirder. I would click on all colors. I really think I am the Tom Brady of weird resumes. I mean, it's stuff you mentioned, the lives, the real world, the college thing, and the main years of school in the general of California, and now that the NFL let me in the door, but in a network full of Hall of Famers and award-winning journalists,

I get to have 30 minutes to mash buttons and play highlights. It's nuts, man. I don't even really know how it works. I just keep kind of changing plans and changing careers, and it keeps working. I think the last step to answer your question was, I worked for Ron for nine years. I was his guy, his right-hand man,

his executive writer, all that stuff. And at one point, I was kind of dabbling in TV and media like you are now. And I had an agent that actually convinced someone to sign me and this crazy, brilliant British man, Michael Davies, who runs a company called Embassy Rail, who has started a million shows. Yeah, hey, Jesserill, I don't want to interrupt you here,

but he also put me on a TV show with no sound for 30 minutes in Iowa. So, fuck that guy. Hey, what was that? Tell me that. What was that? I don't want to interrupt you. It's not diverse. But Embassy Rail put me on, basically, on Facebook's TV, 30 minutes in Iowa with no sound. 30 minutes straight, no sound. Oh, man, really?

Yeah, neither here nor there. Get back to your story. I can't imagine. Yeah. I'm sorry about that. He should be sorry. His name's on it. Well, listen, hopefully Friday night the sound pans out when I go back.

It's going to be terrible, by the way. This is me. But, no, so then he just he gave me a call and he's like you want to move to new york with your family i had two kids under three and a wife like they need new york one time in her life to take a selfie in pen square and she did it and we're here and two years later somehow crazy morning show with one ex-player on it and on the nfl network somehow people seem to sort of like. It's good. It's a good show. You guys keep it very, very loose. I enjoy it a lot. Were you on Rome? Were you working for Rome? Was it your idea for the check that Chris Everett?

No, I don't go back that far, but I get asked about that all the time. I mean, that would happen when I was in junior high school or something, but people always ask me about that. That would happen when I was in junior high school or something. But people always ask me about that. You know, was it staged? And was it set up? And I'm like, no. Knowing very, very well how Rome works, there's no possible way it would ever be staged.

Plus, like, let's look back. Rome was in his 20s at that time. He had his own TV show where he would interview people on television. So the idea that he would want to, like, stage that, first of all, he didn't come off real well. I mean, he basically just fell on his ass, and the guy just stood over him. If you were going to stage it, you want to make yourself look a little more triumphant. It was completely authentic,

and I know that he would like to have that one back. What are you guys talking about tomorrow morning in the NFL? Do you guys get told what you're allowed to talk about, what you're not allowed to talk about? Because I know that Commissioner Goodell is the boss of the NFL Network. Do they come after you guys at all? No, not really. I mean, it's true.

The whole network's based in L.A., except for us. We're the only entity that's consistently outside of L.A. We're in New York. But the stuff that we talk about, sometimes it's just there. It's given to us. Like tomorrow, we'll talk about the L.A. after Thursday night football game, the Bengals-Ravens, but you will not believe

how much we can create a freedom we're given. To just make up segments and do whatever we want. Like, if we have a given segment one day

and we got nine minutes here and, you know, we want to say which Stranger Things character would which New England Patriot be, it's fine.

Like, we do it and it works. And for some reason they just give us complete freedom. But I get asked that every once in a while by, like, a family fine. Like, we do it, and it works. And for some reason, they just give us complete freedom. But I get asked that every once in a while by, like, a family member. Like, do they make you talk about this? Do they tell you not to talk about this? I'm telling you, they do nerd.

Like, they just let us be us. It's incredible. Who's going to win a Super Bowl, Kyle? I think the Patriots and the Eagles are going to win. I think the same two teams. I mean, I would love to sit here and tell you, I know everyone loves after week one to be like, I'm going to swing out of my shoes and blow your mind with this awesome tape,

and it's going to be the Ravens versus the Redskins. No, I don't think so. Like, you know it's overreaction. Every team that won is playing a parade. Every team that lost sucks, and they're on the clock for the draft, and they're already looking at Nick Bosa tape. No, I just think it's the best two teams. The Patriots,

they haven't not been to the title game. I think it's in seven or years or something like that. I think they'll be fine. The reason the Eagles aren't that sexy to talk about is because everyone's playing fantasy and everyone loves this and loves that, but the Eagles, the best

parts of their team are their D-line and they're O-line. So it doesn't jump at you in neon, like having someone like Antonio Brown or Alan Kamara, who are awesome and I love, but I just think when it comes down to it, I still think it's the Eagles and the Patriots. And we haven't had a repeat Super Bowl, I think, since, man, like the early 90s.

It's been a long time, so I think it'd be cool. Do you think Lev Bell is a good rapper? I listened to a little bit of it. Juice, I can tell you something about Lev Bell, about his rapping. I thought this was interesting. Pat, tell me how you feel about this. Okay.

Lev Bell came on our show. This is two Super Bowls now. This is the Houston Super Bowl. Okay. And he was there. He was on the set. And we've had guys do this before where they say they rapped. And we're like, oh, really?

You rapped? Like, go ahead. Freestyle something for us. Go ahead. And they've done it. Like, Calvin Smith from the Jaguars, he can just start rhyming. Or like Nate, who's on our show, can start rhyming. And we say, go ahead.

Do whatever you want. And he's like, no, no, I'm not doing it. And this is where my TV, where it gets kind of awkward. And we're like, whatever you want, man. Start a song. You can do a beat, whatever. And he steadfastly refused to rap in front of us.

Which I think, as far as I understand, I have a really loose understanding of the rap game, but you have to be able to freestyle to be a real rapper. To be really respected. And you've got to be able

to give me something. You've got to be able to give me something. Kyle Brandt! at 11 Bell there. System rapper. Hey, he raps and he plays football when the money and business is right. No white dude from Chicago is going to put him on the spot on live TV and make him rap, Kyle. That's fine, but it was also a black dude from Chicago is going to put him on the spot on live TV and make him rap, Kyle.

That's fine, but it was also a black dude from Seattle who was doing it. It's not a color thing. You could have brought in anybody holding the boom mic or the camera. We could have had a Benetton ad of diversity in front of him. I don't think anything could have happened.

The Kyle Brandt football experience debuts tomorrow at 6 o'clock on NFL Network right before the Carson Palmer of Football Life. Who's been your favorite interviewer, somebody you've met, through this whole NFL Network thing? You know, the one we had recently was someone who exceeded my expectations, and it was Chad Johnson, Ocho Cinco. And I'll tell you why.

I remember the era of Chad when he was Chad Johnson, Ocho Cinco. And I'll tell you why. I remember the era of Chad when he was Chad and he was doing the celebrations and he had this cool blonde mohawk and all that. He was really one of the most fun times. I think he was kind of, he was like a founding father of all the celebrations you see now. But then I feel like the Chad Johnson thing

when he changed his name and he was on Hard Knocks and was catchphrased that, T-shirt that. I feel like it got kind of jumped the sharky. Like, I don't know me, if he had a show with T.O., it's fine. It's just moved past it. So I expected him to come on and just be, I don't know, in

show mode constantly or trying to whatever bumper sticker phrase he's got going or whatever, and that would be fine. But he came on, like, first of all, he came out in a Rage Against the Machine t-shirt, which you just don't see very much. And we said he was a huge fan of Rage Against the Machine and Skinner, which I thought was interesting.

And then he was just, like, real, real deep and insightful, soulful almost about what the game and what it means to him and the toll that it takes. And I didn't expect that from Chad. I thought he was just going to be neon and light and catchphrases, but he was actually a really, really cool guy. That might have been after, maybe he had one of the

Mayawasa things. Maybe he had a maybe he had a rebirth. He also told us that he eats McDonald's every day. And I'm like, when you say every day, you mean like a couple times a week? He goes, no, dude, I hit McDonald's every single. And I'm like, when you say every day, you mean like a couple times a week? No, dude, I hit McDonald's every single day of the year. And I'm like, for real, if that guy in that documentary

and he goes, you know, they were the same thing. He said, you know, whatever you rattle it off, number one, no pickles, blah, blah, blah. Every day. And I'm like, I like McDonald's as much as the next guy, but that's not horrible. I wouldn't even want it three or four times a week. Every day. And he shredded. And I hate that.

Not all men are created equal and not all TV hosts are created equal. Kyle Brandt, you're next level, brother. Good morning football. Every single morning on NFL Network. Also check out the Kyle Brandt football experience debuting tomorrow where he's in a control room taking you down a little nostalgia lane in the

NFL. So thankful you joined us ladies and gentlemen. I assume he's going to be a NFL Hall of Famer at some point with the way he's dictating and changing the game. Kyle Brandt. Thank you brother. Thrilled to be on man. I've always watched you. I've always read your stuff. I've listened to you.

I mean that. This was really cool when I saw your name with the guy I had to call. I would do it anytime dude. Thank you so much. Ah that means a lot and I hope you come back. You're really electric, brother. I appreciate you. Good luck with your new show. Six o'clock on Friday. Terrible time slot, by the way. I know you're trying to sell that. That's a terrible time slot. Good luck. I hope you do great. You're an electric human. Thank you, Kyle. Anytime, Pat. Cheers, brother. I liked him.

Quick wits. Yeah, he's awesome. He's a good time. A lot of energy there. Yep. I've been a fan of his for like 10 plus years, and I'm glad he's finally kind of getting a little more shine. He always used to kind of be the guy in the background, but I'm glad he's getting his own thing. Since Days of Our Lives?

Like the sands of an hourglass. People watch those. So are the Days of Our Lives. You ever been sick and just stay at home and just turn on for a little bit? No, because I'm not a mom, but a lot of moms are watching Days of Our Lives. Mark Schlereth was on a soap opera, I think, at some point, too. I think he has a date. Maybe Days of Our Lives, actually.

Yeah, that place runs the gamut of celebrities. I assume they make good money, too. My mom used to watch soap operas back in the day. Back in the day. It was one of those things her and Zito just sat down and watched. Zito, that fresh haircut of yours? Yep. It's making your face look better.

That's good. But there's something you can't do with hair. Once you've lost it, it's gone forever. Fun fact here, 66% of men lose their hair by the age of 35. Dick, Zito, Nick, you guys are in the majority, not the minority. Yeah. Okay? That doesn't make me feel any better, Pat.

I think it should. It should. You're a big fraternity of bald motherfuckers at a young age. Hey, I willingly took my hair. I mean, to this extent. So humble. But we're talking about previously. Yeah. I saw no problem with my hair previously. See,'re talking about previously.

I saw no problem with my hair previously. See, that's the issue. Is that hairline slowly starting to move backwards? Any bald spots yet? How will you feel a year from now if it's business as usual up there, Nick? Feels pretty good, to be honest. I ask you. Do you want a bald spot to pop up or do you want to do something about it? I got like four of them.

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If you want to gamble real quick, let's go ahead and knock those out. We already talked about Baltimore tonight, minus one. Love the Colts at Washington, plus six. I'm going to bet against the Bills until they cover. Chargers, minus seven. You can't find this line every once in a while. At some places, because they don't know if Rodgers is going to play or not, but I found it Vikings plus one and a half at Green Bay.

You like it. Give me them. The guy just came on the second half down 17 zip with one fucking leg and beat the Chicago Bears and Khalil Mack. Don't care. Giants plus three at Cowboys. There you go. Go to mybookie.ag.

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strongest man ladies and gentlemen joining me now is the documented world strongest man he was a gold medal winner at the pan-american lifting of weights. He's a WWE Hall of Famer, legendary human being, and a man who carried me to Brooklyn from Times Square, living legend, football fan, Mark Henry. Mark. And one fine, proud American. How are you, Mark? I appreciate you so much for joining me.

Obviously, I've told the story of you carrying me home while I'm puking my guts out. I need to give you a public thank you here on the airwaves right now. Well, I'll tell you what, I appreciate the public thank you, but it was completely unnecessary. I've been carrying drunk wrestlers for 25 years. I think, to be honest, me being able to tell a story about the world's strongest man carrying me home one night

is a truly beautiful thing, and it feels good to be in a long list of probably much more legendary humans than I'll ever become in my lifetime. Oh, come on now. You're a damn kicker punter that fucking almost took somebody's head off. So let's get into that. That's got to count for something.

Let's get into that. So Mark and I met the same day he ended up carrying me home that night. I met him at a, it was an international cocktail affair party. He was sitting in the back very nice man i've been a fan for a long time i meet him i chat with him it was me him and samoa joe hanging out it was a pretty cool little moment there then we start chit chatting i end up meeting him out at i think it was rosenberg's podcast first and then i end up at caroline's for uh dolph ziggler stand-up show that i slept through the entire thing. I feel very bad about that.

I bought everybody shots and passed out. And then Mark Henry had to carry me home, and it was the next morning, I think, whenever you might have like, who the hell was that guy I was with yesterday? And you did some research and found out that I was a ball kicker on Sundays. Am I correct? Well, the actual, I saw it, it was the next day I saw it, but I remembered that I had seen it before.

I just didn't put two and two together that that was you that actually did that. When I did see it, I was like, well, son of a gun. Look at this. And I tell you what, like when I called you, I called you like a little kid because, you know, I play ball. When I called you, I called you like a little kid because I play ball, and we always picked on the punters and kickers about how they tackle. And you're not in that class.

You got my respect. Well, I was very uncomfortable because Sam Roberts was telling me the whole story, and he was like, oh, yeah, you embarrassed yourself in front of Mark Henry. And then I heard you were there, and I was like, I don't want to go talk to the guy. And you were like, no, no, no, I saw a video of you tackling somebody. I respect you. I'm like, okay, me and Mark Henry are friends, I think.

I was pretty excited about it, Mark. Hell, yeah, we're definitely friends. I'll tell you what, I'm looking forward to getting together with you when I come to Indianapolis next month on the 9th. Well, I'll tell you what. SmackDown comes to Indianapolis on October 9th. And Mark Henry will be here. I believe he's doing some signings in Indianapolis. I can't wait for the people to come meet you.

Let's talk about it now, Mark. You're co-host of the great show with Dave LaGreca, Busted Open. The infamous show. The infamous show with Bubba Ray Dudley also on there on SiriusXM every single day. You wrestled for all those years. You're now a WWE producer. You're loved by everybody in the WWE world. I haven't heard a single bad thing about you.

What is life happening right now for Mark Henry? What do you do? What is the future for Mark Henry, and what is Mark Henry doing nowadays? Well, I mean, I'm definitely doing the radio thing and I love being at SiriusXM. It's giving me a chance to

give my opinion and tell people exactly who I am outside of wrestling all the years that they've seen me. They get to see more or hear more. I just finished well, I just debuted a show on HBO, Random Acts of Flyness. I'm doing some acting now, too.

I'm being a super dad. My son had his first football game yesterday. He balled out. I mean, it's just been a real good experience getting to meet fans, traveling the world now, doing appearances and Comic-Cons. And if people want to reach me, they can reach me at Mark Henry. Shit, I can't even remember my own. See, it's that CTE's creeping in.

But you can reach me at MarkHenry640 at gmail.com. And I'm the Mark Henry on everything social media. So I'm pretty easy to get a hold of. But I'm having a good time doing the appearances and the signings and stuff and traveling. I went to London. signings and stuff and traveling. I went to London, did a strongman seminar in Winnipeg, Canada, and actually emceed the strongman show the next day.

So I'm staying pretty busy. Well, you are the man. After meeting you, it makes a lot of sense why people want you to be everywhere. Your wrestling career was one that spanned decades. I mean, it was an incredible run with the WWE. There's no way you could have known that you would end up being the sports entertainer that ends up in the Hall of Fame whenever you were the world's strongest man and in those powerlifting competitions. Or was that the plan all along, Mark?

Not at all. I'd be lying my ass off if I said I did that. Like, I was one of the guys. One of the things that has held true my whole career is I'm very competitive and I don't want to be outdone. So anybody that is ambitious and wants to have success, you got to be a little envious, a little jealous of other people's success and try to match it. And that is exactly what I've done. I saw people. I was fortunate enough to be in an organization.

I don't call ourselves a faction. I say we're an organization because we still talk today and we still do a bunch of things together. The nation of domination. The nation of domination. Man, these guys were all professional men outside of wrestling. Everybody was doing something. And I was like, man, I'm not just going to be a wrestler.

I'm going to do the full gambit of entertainment. And that's what I prepared myself for. And it's been one of the biggest compliments to my character is the fact that i'm very competitive and i want to succeed uh it's very publicly known that a wwe wrestler's schedule and travel is lunacy almost and back in the day i think even more so than it already is now they're traveling around the world in a week nowadays back in in the day, you guys used to work 300 and some odd days a year, only a couple days off. Was the schedule something you could have ever expected?

And what was one of the most crazy runs or trips you went on? Oh, my God. Man, I had no clue. If they'd have told me that the schedule was like that, I'd have been like, nah, no thanks, y'all. Good luck. But the craziest run I had was 36 days in a row. And we did three TVs on Sunday.

So we basically knew we were going to be on the road for at least three weeks. So you do three TV, me three tv shows and um then the shows all everything that you do after that has to meet with those other three shows so you had to think three weeks ahead so it was i mean it was crazy man and i think think that year was the year that I did the most days in a row. I mean, most days in a calendar year. I did 228 days. And that was, I mean, that's the most for me. But people like Ric Flair and John Cena and The Rock,

because they're the champion, because they're the draw, the main draw, they have to be at almost every show every live show every televised show so even if they don't wrestle and they're on the show they get in they you know get in the limos because you know they didn't they didn't drive rental cars like us you know they they the limo would pull up, they'd jump out, they'd go do their thing, they'd get back in the limo, and they're already at the next town before the show is over. Do you think, with that being said, do you think John Cena

and even Roman Reigns now deserve a lot more respect and credit from the fans because of just the grueling work schedule that they've been through in the last, like, decade? Yeah, and that's the thing about to the fans that i don't understand uh booing roman reigns is like uh booing sweet baby jesus because you you cannot he wants to be champion he wants to be the guy that carries the load he wants to be the guy that shows up every week for you. And John Cena, it was thrust upon him, but he wanted it too.

And if anybody says different, I suggest you ask John Cena because I rode with him when he first started, when he was, I mean, the prototype before John Cena was even born. And he was one of those that was like, man, I really want to do this. And he's got that ambition, that drive. And those guys deserve all the credit, and they deserve all the money that they get too because they carry the load.

They deserve probably more because they really want it. Coolest atmosphere outside of America that you've ever competed in? The coolest atmosphere is Spain. We compete in bullfighting arenas. We've competed in coliseums. I mean, like, it's ridiculous, man. You can almost feel the death in those places. You walk in and, you know, it's like the bullfighting runs.

I'll send you some pictures of me standing in front of these runs where they sent the lions and tigers out to kill people. Like, I mean, it was just being a Coliseum. It was just really, really weird. I couldn't even fathom that. This is the same place where lions would come right out of the cage, kill a human,

and then walk right back into the cage. That would be an interesting feeling, I could imagine. How many countries have you been in, Mark? Have you kept tally? I haven't all of them. Nah. You know what, man?

Like, I've been to every continent other than the North Pole, the South Pole, and Antarctica. And when they start doing shows there, I'll be there, too. Hell in a Cell is this week. Yep, go ahead. I'm sorry. Every major city in America and every major city in the world I've been to at least once. And that's the beauty of what the WWE and what wrestling has done for me and my family. Like, I've been able to see the world and have exposure and understanding of different people's cultures for almost 30 years, 24 years.

And, like, I mean, it's just a learning tool that, you know, I try to extend when I do shows like yours and mine. And any time that I meet with people in these question and answer sessions, I ask them, man, ask some good questions because I've got some good answers. Well, okay, here's a good question. As a man who sometimes enjoys having a good time, I think you got a chance to witness that, what's a city in the world that I need to visit and have a good time in?

Oh, Barcelona, Spain. Barcelona, Spain is just ridiculous. I would not say Belfast, Ireland, because I spent the night in jail there. What happened? Oh, man, a dude tapped me. I had a raw silk shirt. Anybody that's up to fashion that knows raw silk,

the amount of raw silk that it requires to cover me is an exorbitant amount of money. It's about a $600 shirt. And this guy taps me on my shoulder with a Sharpie, and every time he touched me, like a rainbow effect went into my shirt It just ruined the shirt and I'm like what the hell are you doing? And he was like, oh man, I'm sorry It's just a shirt man. Then you know, I'm like, no, it's not just a shirt I got all pissed and bent out of shape about it And he's like, well, you have to be an asshole and i had a drink in my hand i threw a drink in his face and uh i dared him on

his family to come outside so i could rip his skin off his body and the um he wouldn't do it of course but then they called the police and they took my ass to jail. I'm very excited. I didn't have a Sharpie the night you carried me home. That could have ended a lot different. You know the nice week, Mark Henry, but I tell you what, it is a bastard underneath it. You're a big time football

fan. He said your kid plays. Did you watch the opening weekend of the NFL and do you have any takeaways, Mark? Oh my god, man, I tell you what, it was Mark? Oh, my God, man. I'll tell you what. It was not a good week for all of Virgin coaches. All of the guys that had their coaching debuts, head coaching debuts, got their ass kicked. And a lot of that is the football game, the pro game,

is just different than any other facet. If you're a coordinator, a lot of times you don't get the practice of making sure not only the proper calls are made, but in the situation in which that call needs to be made. It's just experience-based. And, you know, Gruden didn't have an excuse. He should have done a lot better. Gruden didn't have an excuse.

He should have done a lot better. And he just, I think, went into the booth mode and it just didn't work in the second half. By the way, he said he wished they could have got to the quarterback more. Do you think maybe he was missing a particular player? Oh, well, you know what? Let me think. Yeah. Khalil Mack, what a debut.

I'll tell you what. Khalil Mack showed and paid dividends the first second that he was on the field in Chicago. And they missed him. They needed him. He was the catalyst for their defense. And you know what? That was a mistake. When you're trying to show who's got the biggest ball,

sometimes you might want to realize that the person that you're competing against is the one that has them. And Khalil Mack was that guy. And he made just a colossal mistake trying to beat a boss. Speaking of having huge gut sack, what's Vince McMahon like on a daily basis? You know what Vince is? Everybody thinks he's evil.

He's just a horrible human being. But, you know, when my mother died, I was not in a state of mind to be there. And Vince told me, he said, listen, Mark, you need to go home. He said, you come back when you're ready. And he paid me every day. I was gone. So he's got a level of loyalty from me and a lot of the guys that people will never understand because he's that guy.

But he expects you to work like he would work and and who doesn't if i own the company i want you to sacrifice too i don't want to be the only one with skin in the game so um that you take that and then you make your assessment of who you think benjamin man is He's built up a publicly traded company from scratch. He's the most underrated genius in the history. I've always said it. Yeah, I think that in the next century, you'll be hard-pressed to find another man or woman

that was able to build from scratch a billion-dollar industry, multiple billion-dollar industry, that equals what he's built. I mean, I wouldn't doubt that whatsoever. It would have taken another hundred years for that to happen. Mark, you had a really long run in the WWE, really impressive. Was there a favorite? Who the hell is this? His name is Nick.

He's actually one of Elias' high school friends. We went to high school with Elias. He's one of his really good friends. Big, big, big, big WWE fan. Coming in hot in your ears. We all know Elias doesn't have friends. I'm joking, Nick. Hey, man. How you doing? Good, man. How are you?

You had a long, very successful run. Was there, and a lot of evolution with your character over the years, was there one that stood out to you in particular that was kind of a favorite? You went from the strongest man to the nation to sexual chocolate. Was there one that stood out to you that you enjoyed the most? I guess the Hall of Pain era was the one that I enjoyed the most because they allowed me to be exactly the opposite of me. And, like, there were times where I went out and I told guys, hey, man, if I lose it, just get out of the ring. Because Vince told me, he was like, look, sometimes you just got to scare people.

He's like, I want to see you do exactly the opposite of what we see you as. Everybody knows you're a great guy, Mark. Come on. But we want you to be a monster. And I was allowed to go out there and say what came to my mind when I said, if I start charging for air air keep your damn bill paid i meant it and there there was a bunch of times the i'll split your head to the white meat and the you know just all of the sands and stuff and everybody loved that stuff and i suppressed that

monster because that monster would get me killed in the real world because nobody nobody's gonna fight that dude they're gonna shoot him so i was like man look if i can portray this character and not get killed, hey, it's a win-win. So you had to harness that bastard you got underneath there, huh? Man, I have to. I mean, even now, I'm an old, chiseled, grizzled veteran, and if I act remotely close to that, everybody in Texas has a gun. If I get out of my car and go, hey, what the hell?

I'm going to get a center mass, about three or four shots. How much did Vince McMahon? I joke around a lot, but that was the best time for me in wrestling, even though it was not the most profitable time, but it was a lot of fun being that angry, hated Mark Henry. How much help does Vince McMahon give people for their characters? Like he told you he wants you to be this monster. Does he do that with everybody, or does he pick and choose?

He picks and chooses. I created sexual chocolate like 16 years ago, 17 years ago. And still, every time I get in front of the people, a sexual chocolate chant goes on. So I take a lot of pride in that. And it was so much fun to do that character. Like, you go out and everybody's expecting one thing, and then you give them comedy, and you give them that. And, you know, like, that's the thing that I love the most. I mean, we laughed on this show already three or four times

because it's fun. Like, I want to have fun. I want to have a good time. I want people to come away from the experience with me knowing that you was entertained, but you was a little bit afraid, but you laughed a little bit. Like, I mean, that's what it's all about. And Vince allows you to put that out in front of the people. And if it works, it works.

If it don't, then they snatch it and you start doing something else. This weekend, Hell in a Cell, big night on Sunday night for a lot of things. Hell in a Cell has created a lot of big moments. What are you looking forward to most, Mark? Well, definitely, I mean, the main event, you know, to see Braun Strowman and Roman Reigns go in there. And now that they made the tag to see, you know, Drew McIntyre and Dolph go up against the insane Dean Ambrose and one of my favorites in the company right now, Seth Rollins. Like, that's going to be a really, really good combination of

people to work against. And I think people are going to get their money's worth. Oh, that's awesome. Well, I can't wait to watch it. And Mark, I am so thankful for you coming on the show, for you carrying me home. I can't wait to see you again. I'll be at the next NXT TakeOver. Mark Henry, you are the epitome of a professional, my brother.

And thank you so much for joining us. You can check him out every single day on Busted Open, Sirius XM, the best wrestling talk on earth, the world's strongest man. Mark Henry, thank you, Mark. Man, thank you, brother. I'll see you soon, man. You got it, Mark. Hey, Mark, don't be scaring any white people down there in Texas.

Man, everybody, not just white people. It's going to be everybody. Ladies and gentlemen, the world's strongest man, Hall famer mark henry thank you mark appreciate y'all cheers man take care brother all right man you're the best