The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 006 - Maroon 5 & Outkast

Episode Date: September 20, 2018

On today's show, Pat joins the guys live from a hotel room in Orlando as he is away on a business trip. They chat about him getting on the plane with a burger loaded with onions, and trying to track d...own a cornhole board once they landed in Orlando, which proved to be more difficult than expected. They also chat about Maroon 5 being announced as the Super Bowl halftime performers, Pat explains what collabs he'd like to see and Todd, Digs, Nick, & Zito give their picks on who their dream performance would be. They also chat about Hall of Famers wanting $300,000 and insurance every year from the NFL and whether that is sustainable, and give out a couple of Quick Picks for week 3 in the NFL. Closing out the show is a great interview with Albert Breer from MMQB. They chat about Josh Gordon going to New England, his stance in the Colin Kaepernick situation, his favorite story he's ever reported on, and why certain writers believe that they are bigger than the game (56:02-1:17:17). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:19 every single Thursday, Beat Pat McAfee Challenge. If you didn't get your bet in today, this was the easiest overbet in the history of overbets. The line moved from minus 130 to minus 400. I think everybody saw the same thing, but mybookie.ag fades me basically in certain challenges. Today was cornhole. The over-under was at 20.5, and I'll tell you what. I never woke up and knew I was going to do something more than I knew I was going to do that.
Starting point is 00:02:44 The whole process of getting the cornhole boards though. What happened? Down here in Orlando, great question. So I'm down here in Orlando, got some stuff going on with WWE. I don't know if you ever heard of it. I heard of it.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Pretty big operation there. Don't know if you ever heard of it. 25 years of live TV, no big deal. Billions of fans, no big deal. Went over to Saudi Arabia and met the goddamn prince over there. No big deal. Yeah, they flew me in here.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Me and Foxy, actually. They actually flew Foxy down here. He's at the coach by the way Way back That's where he belongs I didn't like it Because it was one of them big planes Where you walk in the middle And you gotta like one turns right
Starting point is 00:03:36 One turns left Foxy had to turn right Go back to the toilet Foxy I'm going up here to the pod. Hey, wild move, get an onion cheeseburger. We're running late, bitch. We're running late. I was running late.
Starting point is 00:03:53 We sprinted into the airport. I didn't get checked at TSA, by the way. It's the first time probably in two years I haven't got my quad checked. I think I got to start working out a little bit more. This was a little shot across the bow from TSA. It's the first time I've walked through the little scanner thing. And I turn and I'm just waiting. There's three people.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And they're like, you have to wait here to see. I'm like, I know. And I know I'm going to go into that little glass cage over there. And you guys are going to put on little rubber gloves. And one of you is going to feel my dick. I know how this works. And then all of a sudden, no, no, it goes green. You're okay.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And I'm like, it's kind of like not getting a random drug test after a game. I must not have done that well. My clothes must not look that good anymore. OBJ, by the way, complaining about all the random drug tests he did. I like that a lot. I'm a big fan of him getting pissed off. There is videos of him laying in bed
Starting point is 00:04:50 with a lady with cocaine. He was also part of the infamous yacht boat party where you could clearly see blunts and cocaine on the old boat. Now, to Mr. Beckham Jr.'s credit here, this would be a performance-enhancing drug test, not a street drug test.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Correct. Because the annual street drug test is up already. The time for that is already up. So this would only be a performance-enhancing drug test, which I think cocaine as an amphetamine would fail that test, though. Yeah, and in fairness, if you get on a boat in Miami, the cocaine comes standard. If you don't want it on there, you have to throw it off as soon as you leave the dock. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:05:31 You're either running it or snorting it. You're on a boat in Miami. There's something going down. But anyways, so we were running late. I get through the TSA. It was really good. I hadn't eaten anything all goddamn day because I was straight from
Starting point is 00:05:47 the office back to home and then over to the airport and it's just kind of like a run, run, run thing. I'm on this keto diet. Even though my lady in a very evil evil
Starting point is 00:06:02 I'd say. You think evil? Evil temptress. Malicious. Malicious, also a good word. Put out the Reesey pumpkins right there in front of my face two nights ago.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Wiley temptress. She's a Wiley temptress. Oh, it finally came to you there? Yeah, yeah. I popped a quad last night, man man i'm in a bad spot i saw that on the twitter man it's tough my quads are also in a bad spot you can't go all out there it's a playoffs pat it was a playoffs i had to go all out um so she puts out four reesee pumpkins right in front of my face the other night when she knows i'm on this keto diet she knows that if it's in front of me i'm gonna do it she knows that if you put crack in front of a crackhead he's gonna fucking start the itching and that's
Starting point is 00:06:58 what she did so i had four reesees the other night and i woke up and i was just so ashamed of myself so yesterday i was like i'm getting back on this keto diet heavy. No more carbs, no more fat, no more heroin, kid. And then I just didn't eat all goddamn day. So I get to the airport, and there's no options. There's not a lot of options there. So we're kind of running. I got Foxy waiting at the gate to tell me when our final minute is to get on the plane.
Starting point is 00:07:24 That's how close it was, right? There's a burger place there, and there's a guy who talked just like Vontae handled it. Bro, I lost it. It wasn't Vontae? No. It wasn't his new career? Hey, hey! How can I help you and i was like i was taking her back for a minute i was like
Starting point is 00:07:51 i love the way you sound i would also like i want a triple cheeseburger and then he was like you want grilled onions grilled mushrooms yeah i absolutely just thank you so much. And I was so taken back by his vaunted voice. And then I heard grilled onions as an option. I'm like, yeah, I want fucking grilled onions from this guy. So I just go, yup, to both of them, right? So then it gets sent back to the cook, who I can see working through the goddamn window. The cashier guy disappears. He disappears.
Starting point is 00:08:24 While the order gets sent back, the chef, I can see him, just puts down his fucking gloves, puts down his little spatula things, and just walks out. Walks right past me, goes to the bathroom. So now I know that Vontae Davis is not cooking. And I can see the goddamn grill. The guy who's supposed to be cooking he's in the bathroom right now i'm like well i mean i can't blame the guy he's if he's got a piss or poop what are we doing i'm looking down at fox i'm like we got time he's like yeah getting close getting close so now i'm starting to sweat a little bit i just got a spray tan that's not good
Starting point is 00:09:00 so then the guy comes out of the bathroom. Slowest walker I've ever seen in my life. I think he took a shit because of how relaxed he was. So he comes walking out. I'm just like, hey, bub. I hope it was great in there, you know? Hope it was great. And he goes, oh, it was.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Thanks. And just walks back in there. Takes his time putting his gloves back on. Okay. Takes his time. At least he did that. I'm looking down at Foxy. Foxy's foxy's like we're getting close here okay and the guy whips it together i got no buns so he just puts the three burgers the cheese the bacon oh it was really good just right into one of them um what's the little things foil yep there it Foil. Yep, there it is.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Puts it in the foil. Then I have to run. We're the last people on the plate, Foxy. Last people on the plate. Yet again, I'm first class. He's in the back. I sit down. As soon as I sit down, I go to open the bag, and I just get hit.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Oh, the robot. I just get hit with the fucking onion smell, and I'm like, whoosh. And I shut it, and I shut it back up I twist it up and I'm like I bitch about these people all the time I'm starving I've yet to eat a single thing so there I am sitting next to a man who's reading
Starting point is 00:10:19 an anti-Trump book who I can just sense hates white people. I could just sense it from him. I didn't ask him, but he never reached out to say hello to me when I sat down. I gave him a hello. Was it Reggie Wayne?
Starting point is 00:10:35 What's that? Was it Reggie Wayne? That's what it felt like. That's exactly what it felt like. So this guy, I know he sees me come walking in with this goddamn paper bag. I open it. He's the only one I think that caught any of the onion.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And in his head, I could hear him just be like, if this motherfucking cracker even thinks about eating this goddamn burger, I'm going to slap the shit out of him. So I'm just sitting there and I'm drooling though. Like I am at the point where I'm drooling because I saw the burger that they put in there. Can you smell it? Sure. Oh, it looks so delicious. There's bacon on there. It was a triple burger, American cheese, some grilled onions, grilled mushrooms.
Starting point is 00:11:17 They had the bad lettuce. They had the big thing on it as opposed to the shredded lettuce. So I didn't like that as much. But I'm just sitting there staring at it. And for me, I like the ability to be able to bash people that do dumb things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Never noticed. Zito, we'll get to you some day. What happens after I landed in Orlando. So I couldn't. It was a mistake to order the grilled onions, but it was a moment that happened so quickly during the ordering process.
Starting point is 00:11:52 You trusted Vontae. Vontae. He got me. He got me. So now I just had to sit in my mistake because I want to be able to bitch about this for the rest of my life. I can't bitch about what other people do if I'm somebody that does it. That's not a pleasure
Starting point is 00:12:08 you allow yourself very often. I can't imagine what's going through your brain. I haven't had a burger in two months. I want to fucking devour this thing. There's no bun. Wait, did that cashier ever come back? Or did he retire?
Starting point is 00:12:23 No, he was gone. He was literally directly after taking my order. I guess that should not be lost in the story. We did not see him again. I did not see him again. There was other people coming up
Starting point is 00:12:38 while I was waiting. They were like, is this place open? And I was like, I think. I got to call my grandma. I'm on, mom. Hey, dog. I'll get my ass kicked at the end. So I'm pretty excited that I withstood the ability to talk shit about those people forever.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Because, honestly, you can't be a hypocrite. You can't. That's something I don't enjoy being, is a hypocrite. I like to walk it how I talk it. And I set myself up to be in a bad, bad situation there. But, I mean, as soon as I got off the plane, that thing shoved down my face quicker than anything I've ever seen in my life. And it was still warm because the foil
Starting point is 00:13:25 does a great job. Yeah, it's incredible. They smoke crack out of that, right? Yeah, for sure. I've smoked vitamins out of a tinfoil pipe one time. Oh, yeah. You make the little boat with the foil. It's basically like a bowl, but it's made
Starting point is 00:13:41 out of tinfoil. If you're crafty enough. I think that would be a moment. I woke up one time next to a river in an RV in West Virginia after potentially chugging moonshine out of a washer fluid bottle and potentially smelling a white substance. And I looked in the mirror and I've never been more embarrassed than me. I was in the RV and I couldn't pee because the thing was clogged. So I couldn't flush. I mean, I peed into somebody else's piss. And I turned, I looked in the mirror and I was like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:14:30 What are you doing with your life here, Pat? You know, what are we... You're better than this. Is this what you're going to do? Really? You're literally in a van down by the river. This is honestly what you're doing right now. And I looked around and everybody kind of said,
Starting point is 00:14:46 if I was smoking anything out of what people smoke crack out of, I think I would be judging myself the same way. Did you have that? I mean, I wasn't proud of myself, but I also, that same summer, I worked in the hood. I worked for a roofing company in the hood. Oh, okay. And I basically worked with crackheads,
Starting point is 00:15:03 and they would smoke weed out of pop cans, and I thought that was probably the lowest of the low. No. See, I think pop cans, bottles, those things, much higher than the crack tin foil. I mean, I agree with you on the water bottle. I don't know about the pop can, but I tried it once. It tasted weird. How are the neighborhood crackheads back there today, by the way?
Starting point is 00:15:24 I kind of missed them. Oh, they're lively today. It was a nice warm morning. They're all over the place. Yeah. They're all walking about, having a day. Is that Foxy going to take a shit? Yeah, he's going to shit in my bathroom.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It's unbelievable. There's that one crackhead every morning that has a full conversation with himself. I say hello every single morning. He refuses to talk to me. He only talks to himself. He's busy. He's in a conversation. Yeah, but every fucking morning
Starting point is 00:15:53 he can't just stop with himself and tell me hello one time? I respect that he sits outside of the bank like some magical money is going to fall out someday and he's going to be the first to grab it. Yeah. Not a bad spot to panhandle. there's another one that's always walking like very fast just looking down at the ground like he's on a mission and i'm like where are you going you're not going anywhere we had to fly out of the international terminal out of atlanta down here to orlando yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:16:22 so it makes a lot of sense because all these people fly in from all over the world to go to Disney World. So it's in the international terminal. And the international terminal is the nicest terminal in any airport. I've always said it. But the one in Atlanta is next level. It is
Starting point is 00:16:39 beautiful. That's where you met the lady who hates Nick, right? Yeah, yeah. Exactly. And while we were walking by the spot where the lady hated Nick, I actually told Evan, I'm like, this is the spot. I said, this is the spot. A sweet old lady said she loved everything we do. She just hates that Nick guy. That old bitch sucked.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I kind of want to put like a plaque there. You know when people put stuff on the side of the road for something terrible that happened. I want to put one of those right there in between the E terminal and D terminal. But if we start handing out plaques for everyone who hated me, it'd be the list would be fucking astronomical. Buddy. So we land, we go through the international terminal not a lot of english-speaking folks in there obviously people flying in to see mickey mouse's house and uh we land and zito zito zito told us miller's ale house the airport miller Ale House. I talked to a guy named Mark.
Starting point is 00:17:46 You show up. You can pick up cornhole boards. No problem. So I get a rental car. Foxy and I get a rental car. It's a minivan. It's blacked out. It's dope.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And it's got some juice, too, by the way. That thing's got some juice. Just if anybody's in the market. Spice Adam is brought to a minivan like this. It's true. It is true. So we head to the Miller's Ale House, which is less than two miles from the airport. We walk in there.
Starting point is 00:18:14 There's an outside patio, all Caucasian people. Then there's an inside part, no white people. There's Spanish-speaking over here. There's African-Americans over here. There's Indians here. But there's air conditioning as well. So me and Foxy were like, I think we're not supposed to be on the inside here, but we're we're staying in here So we go sit at the bar I was still hungry because all I had was that one burger and I ordered some food
Starting point is 00:18:41 Bartender comes over very nice, man. I go, is there a Mark here? He goes, Mark's out there on the outside bar right over there. I was like, is he a pretty nice guy? He's been here 18 years. I'm like, okay, this is the guy Zito is talking to. I cannot believe Zito set this up so seamlessly. Yeah, right. So the outside has turned into quite a party.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I mean, they're out there having a good time. There's a lot of yelling happening. I mean, the bartender's in the middle of this outside patio. There's a party happening. So we walk. We eat our food. We tell the bartender, thank you so much. We go outside to market.
Starting point is 00:19:17 We have to cut in in the bar because the bar is so. Crowded? Yes. So I do like a little shimmy into the bar. I put my hand up and I go, one bartender comes up to me. I go, not you. Excuse me. I have no need for you. I'm here for Mark.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Then Mark comes around. Mark leans over. I go, are you Mark? He goes, yeah, what's up? I go, I'm here for the cornhole boards. He said, what, what's up? I'm here for the cornhole boards So, what are you talking about? Said you're mark. He goes. Yeah, I go you talk to Zito. I'm here for the cornhole boards and he goes I feel like I'm being punctured And I should not you didn't talk to a Zito
Starting point is 00:20:01 He says it's a fucking joke and he starts looking around No jokes, sir. This is is no joke we are being serious he goes what are you talking about do you have cornhole boards from zito i'm here to pick up so at this point i'm raising my voice a little bit because it's so loud the people sitting around us in the bar now now poking their heads now they're in the conversation because it seems as if we're trying to pick up drugs yeah if cornhole boards was their code for cocaine they probably think is this fucking guy in a sleeveless and jorts trying to pick up a fucking kilo Is this fucking guy in a sleeveless and jorts trying to pick up a fucking kilo of coke? From our guy Mark who's been here for 18 years?
Starting point is 00:20:50 So I put my hand on the bar. And I'm like, Mark, I need you to be serious with me just for a minute. I'm here to pick up the fucking cornhole boards. Do you have the cornhole boards? And he's like, no, we've never had cornhole boards here. I've never played cornhole. And you have the cornhole boards and he's like no we've never had cornhole boards here i've never played cornhole and i call them bad oh oh so me and fossey just walk away right you didn't you didn't ask him like if he remembered the phone call with zito he'd like he completely just ignored everything i asked a couple times if he knew a Zito. He was like, I've never heard of a Zito. So he ruled out
Starting point is 00:21:25 Zito very early. He ruled out a Zito very early. So we just walked away. Without giving that guy a full explanation, we just walked away. Foxy and I just walked away. And I would have loved to hear that, like, the five people sitting to our right
Starting point is 00:21:42 and five people to our left with more conversation after Foxy and I walk out of here. because that was very much a regular's party yeah so we call zito back obviously we tell him i i tell him i fucking knew it i know zito i fucking knew it i i there i met with a guy named mark i don't know how you got the name mark did you just call and ask like who's the longest tenure just give world? Just give me a name. And he goes, why? Mark didn't remember me? And I was like, Zito's now upset. Zito is now like disrespected
Starting point is 00:22:11 that his friend Mark didn't remember him. So, now it's like 1145, 1150 down here in Orlando. And Zito's like, let me call Mark back. So now we're waiting in basically the parking lot of this place for Zito to call Mark back. Zito calls like let me call Mark back so now we're waiting in basically the parking lot of this place for Zito to call Mark back
Starting point is 00:22:27 Zito calls Mark and he goes are you at the one on Colonial we're like no we're at the airport Miller's Ale House he goes oh there's an executive airport 30 miles from you that's the one
Starting point is 00:22:43 we had to take a fucking toll road airport 30 miles from you. That's the one. We had to take a fucking toll road. In my defense, Florida is only ran by toll roads. There it is. That's neither here nor there. We had to drive 30 minutes down a toll road,
Starting point is 00:22:59 pass a guy, what was the Indian guy working at the toll road? I forget his name. The Indian guy at the toll was the best. Funush. I pull up. I go, how much? He goes, $1.25 for you. And I'm like, for me?
Starting point is 00:23:13 He's like, for you? I'm like, how about a buck? And he's like, no, $1.25 for you. I already make good deal. He and I have full conversation. Wait, toll road workers are making deals these days? No, I was thinking if I could pull off a deal here, it's better than anything Rick had ever done in Ponce.
Starting point is 00:23:31 25 cents off the fucking toll road fee. I thought that would have been a big fucking thing. I'm surprised you guys had cash to pay it. Well, I only had $2. The $1.25 was a big deal. We had to find a different way home, by the way, to miss the toll road. We didn't have enough money. So we go through the toll road.
Starting point is 00:23:52 We finally get to this other Miller's Alehouse, which is right next to the executive airport. So I could see how Zito, the executive airport is a private airport. I could see how Zito could potentially, even though we told him the WWE was flying us and we're going into the international airport. That's the thing with Zito. Everything he does, there's always like, I can see how you can fuck this up. Because he listens to half of your conversation. Yeah, he heard airport. So the funny thing is, after you guys called me back, I zoomed out from the map and I saw the bigger airport directly south.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And I was like, oh, God. So the people at the Miller's Alehouse, the second one we had to go to, they stayed there until 1230. So past past the being closed, we could go pick it up. We walked in there. Guy named Scott is the bartender. We walk up. Everybody's this place is empty. Me and Foxy just walk in, go up to the bartender we walk up everybody's this place is empty me and foxy just walk in go up to the bar and we go mark and he goes i don't have time for you and i'm like oh
Starting point is 00:24:51 no this is a fuck up again and he's like i'm joking i got the cornhole bags for you you guys he's like here's the bags there's the boards have a good one and he didn't even follow us me and foxy just fucking walked out with him. No promise of return. That is the weirdest thing because he doesn't – like when I talked to Mark, he was like, yeah, come pick him up. Like that's the funniest thing because I would never just trust to – like a person I just called. For a random quarterback. No promise of return. They literally didn't even watch us.
Starting point is 00:25:20 We could have taken chairs out of there too. We could have just saddled the the shit up so then we had to put it in the um in the back of the minivan and then we start making the trek back to our hotel which is in the international airport it is in the airport the airport is right fucking there so we took a check back i get a dm from mac louder milk oh punter from. Oh, the punter from UCF. Yeah, the punter from UCF. I get a DM from him. He goes, Kaz, I got two American flag cornhole boards sitting in my living room right now.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And I was like, oh, my God. It's already 1235, 1240 a.m. at this point. I'm like, how far are you from the airport? He's like, 25, 30 minutes probably. And I'm like how far are you from the airport he's like 25 30 minutes probably and i'm like that's another hour trip plus i'm sure we're gonna talk for an hour or two i ain't got time mac i ain't got time and he goes well next time you come into town you gotta swing by he had a name for his house i forget what it was of course it's a college and i was like i'm to do that for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:25 So we ended up with the Cornhole Boards after a journey around the greater Orlando area. I'm very thankful for that. But the Miller's Alehouse people, very trustworthy. Good boards? They're wooden, yeah. I don't know if they're great. They didn't look good when you FaceTimed me. They looked kind of like cheap. Yeah, but they're bar, yeah. I don't know if they're great. They didn't look good when you FaceTimed me. They looked kind of like cheap.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Yeah, but they're bar cornhole. You know what I mean? They're better than anything we'd be able to get at Walmart or Dick's. Right. So that's really good news. I mean, I pack my own bags, so I'm fucking – we're in this to win. The fact that Mac Loudermilk has two American flag cornhole boards in his house just further proves me that he loves you
Starting point is 00:27:07 and is trying to be the most Pat McAfee person of all time. Or he's just a good American. Can you not just accept the fact that he's a good American? Listen, I think we're all good Americans, but none of us have American flag cornhole boards sitting in our living room. Maybe we're not that great of a match. Something to think about. I'm a big fan of that Mac Loudermilk kid, though.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Even more after last night. Just sliding DMs. Puzzy, I got you some. Come pick them up. Come through. Man, you're so far away. I think there's going to be more of these Orlando trips. Now, granted, I'm filming some content for them today down here.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I can't wait to get into it. I'm excited to see how they enjoy my style of creating things. Sure they will. Strictly straight off the hip. Yeah. Straight off the hip. Zero rehearsals. Let's keep it moving.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I'll be excited to see how they roll with that. But if I come down to Orlando and I don't go to a UCF game to go show a little love to Mac Loudermilk for that goddamn offer, I'm an absolute asshole. And the only way that I will be able to know that I got the best bang for my buck on those tickets to that UCF Golden Knights game is with the greatest ticket on earth?
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Starting point is 00:29:45 We need both to be used so SeatGeek continues to advertise with everything we do. How Manti Teo is not the spokesperson for SeatGeek by now is absurd. Why is that? Well, he got catfished. I mean, his catfish is dead now but probably the most notable catfish for sure
Starting point is 00:30:10 that guy that Nev guy him and his partner broke up right they're no longer doing the show who? Nev Campbell? Nev what's his name the guy who beat catfish the show oh Nev Shulman him and his partner broke up right I don't know I don't know who that is Nev and Max I believe the guy that did the Oh, Nev Schulman. Him and his partner broke up, right?
Starting point is 00:30:25 I don't know. I don't know who that is. Nevin Max, I believe. The guy that did the camera. The guy that did the cameras. I believe his name was Max. Hey, you know me. I just read headlines. I don't read into actually what happened.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Well, yeah. I mean, that's a good way to get through life. How about Bert and Ernie not being gay now? Yeah, you mean how I told you they weren't gay? I love Bert and Ernie not being gay, though. You mean how I told you they weren't gay? Diggs, you were very, very, very pessimistic early about this whole story. I guess they are no longer gay.
Starting point is 00:30:56 It's conflicting reports on their sexuality. He's poor fucking puppet. They don't know what to do. Should I fuck him or not fuck him? I don't know what's going on. The guy running the puppets is like, Art, what should I do? What should I do? What do we do?
Starting point is 00:31:12 Back in the mainstream conversation, good marketing, just like IHOP. Just like IHOP. We here at the Pat McAfee show, though, would like it to be known that we are very much for Bert and Ernie living their best lives, however bought. A thousand percent. A thousand percent.
Starting point is 00:31:32 That is, if they want to fuck each other, have them fuck each other. Yeah. If they want to have sex with nobody, if they're just sexless puppets, we're all about it. But don't be lying to us. I don't think they should just dangle through life being sexless puppets, though. Yeah, that's no way to live. I think they should pick a side. They're rocks off.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Yeah. I think when they ejaculate, confetti pops up. The NFL broke some news yesterday. Which one? After we recorded Quick Hits, the NFL broke some news yesterday, which is what Quick Hits is supposed to be for, is breaking all the NFL news. Maroon 5 has been chosen as the Super Bowl 50 halftime performing act in Atlanta much to the chagrin
Starting point is 00:32:26 of every human that loves Atlanta rap music Atlanta music in general don't know how Adam Levine stays on the right side of PR here Diggs it's just it's tough because out of anybody Adam Levine's the guy who needs more exposure
Starting point is 00:32:41 needs to have more sex like he's no but I did say that's how halftime works is they usually take a pretty big Adam Levine's the guy who needs more exposure, needs to have more sex. Like, he's... No, but I did see... Yeah, but that's how halftime works, is they usually take a pretty big start. I mean, that's kind of how it works. Yeah, but I did see a lot of people in the Atlanta music and rap scene upset that they didn't do, like, an Atlanta collab. But if there's one thing we know about live rap performances,
Starting point is 00:33:02 I don't... It's just they're not always great. You're really rolling the dice with that. I agree with that completely. The thing about these Super Bowl halftime performances, though, like when the Red Hot Chili Peppers were there, Flea was selling out. His fucking shit wasn't even plugged in. Dude, it's a show.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It wasn't even plugged in. Bruno Mars, all his little guys, I don't even know how they make those sound lists i don't even know how it's possible the only person that's truly performing is the person on the mic and as long as you don't get that 21 savage character i think there's some very very notable atlanta rappers that would have done the trick now granted i assume that adam levine with some self-awareness from his people will bring these people out. But Nick, play that first song that I want Adam Levine
Starting point is 00:33:49 to go ahead and just bring on up. Yup. Yup. Yup. I'm a I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:34:22 I'm We the type of people made the club before Many a day has passed, the night has gone by But still I find the time to put that bomb off in your eye Total chaos for these playoffs Thought we was ants and we're taking another route To represent the Dungeon family like Ray Day Me and my nigga decide to take the back way We stabbing every city then we head to that back cave
Starting point is 00:34:40 A.T.L. What do we do? Fall ya, bulldog and hoes like them Georgetown All the way, some say that He's like one of the greatest rappers in history. And Big Boi, they used to run laps around their neighborhood rapping their songs so they would sound good. They were legends in high school. Atlanta legends in high school.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Stankonia came out whenever they were like 17. Just running the world. I think if Adam Levine doesn't bring out outcast i think there might be a full fucking riot in atlanta the day after the god let me let me i mean i can run through a list here for you besides outcast you got ti ludicrous tlc silo green crm big boy we got young jeezy, Little John, Soldier Boy, Gucci Man, Killer Mike, B.O.B., Lil Scrappy, Bubba Sparks, Ying Yang Twins, Young Dro, Jermaine Dupri. Bring them all out. Young Jock.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Lil John. Don't forget about them franchise boys. What about Crime Mom? Also, please do not forget about this man who is a little bit different of a demo, but from the same area. Please, Nick. Sean DePaul. Jamaica. Do you know Sean Paul was from Atlanta?
Starting point is 00:35:55 Oh. Oh, I like it. You know, well, I'm a chicken fry A cold beer on a Friday night A pair of jeans that fit just right And a radio Well, I was raised up beneath the shade of a Georgia pine And that's home, you know Sweet tea and campfire and homemade wine
Starting point is 00:36:37 Where the peaches grow In my house, it's not much to talk about But it's filled much to talk about. But it's filled with love that's grown in southern ground. And a little bit of chicken fry. Cold beer on a Friday night. So many different options from Atlanta that they could have used. So many different options. And somehow, Adam Levine's handsome ass.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Let's not get crazy. He's very handsome very talented you watch the voice he plays the drums he plays the piano he thinks he does this he does that he's very very talented but you would think the nfl would be like you know what we're in atlanta there is a wealth of music here this seems to be overpopulated with musicians maybe we we just put together an Atlanta collection like the Olympics do. The Olympics do this. This is what the Olympics do. A good medley.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I don't know what. A good medley. A harmony, if such. You know why they chose Adam Levine? Why? It's safe. He's not going to do anything controversial. It's Adam safe play.
Starting point is 00:37:52 He's a mainstream figure, so they feel like that's possible. But Zach Brown has done the MLB All-Star game. He's done a lot of very mainstream things, so you'd still be showing love to Atlanta. And I assume Zach brown being from there would be like oh yep we have to add in little john we have to have ludicrous we have to have outcast like there's always a way to have these types of things happen but i just i just feel like this is another miss by the nfl i don't know why they always choose to do it i don't know why maybe
Starting point is 00:38:22 so like adam does like two songs and then they throw to a separate stage and it's all those rappers that we talked about and they all do Welcome to Atlanta remix. The Welcome to Atlanta has to be the first. I mean, it's very
Starting point is 00:38:39 it's hack. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. It's a hacky move playing that when you're in the lane. I get it. It's a hacky move. But then there's also OutKast says, Georgia. Georgia. That came out whenever we played Georgia, my freshman year.
Starting point is 00:39:01 We on the grind. It was awesome just saying, Georgia, we beat Georgia. Who's your dream halftime performance? I don't know. I sent you guys that text. That's a very good question. I enjoyed the – because I was thinking about that this morning while I was showering here in the shower with less than zero water pressure.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Well, they're below sea level. It's tough. I was grabbing basically a bottle of water and throwing it on myself in this goddamn place. And also, by the way, this is the hotel that comes with earplugs next to the bed. Love that. You love it. They also gave you the worst water brand of all time. How's that taste like?
Starting point is 00:39:47 Dog shit? It's not good, but they could potentially sponsor the show. Yeah, I didn't say who it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't say it out loud. This is on YouTube. I don't know. I was interested to hear who you guys thought because I feel like Todd's.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I'm excited to hear the difference between Todd's and Nick nicks or todd's and dicks and stuff like that i think zach brown though with outcast little john you may be bringing a jeezy if you can somehow keep it mainstream enough i think to be honest that's an incredible fucking show. Like, in my head, that's an incredible show. Because Zac Brown, that whole band is so talented, they could play the rap beats to all the songs. They would pre-record it, and they would run. Right. But you get it. That would be an incredible show.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Personally, I think that would be a great show. Todd, who were you thinking? Well, I had written down Zac Brown because of Atlanta, so scratch that out. I think it's a great idea. Having them collab with somebody is fucking next level. So I'm going to go, like, if I could have a collaboration of two of my favorite dead artists, it would be Tom Petty and Prince coming together and doing the show.
Starting point is 00:41:00 So Prince did it in Miami in the rain when the Hulk won, right? Yep. And Tom Petty did it as well I think when I was in college I don't remember who won that The sales of their shit Goes through the roof the next day Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:41:14 But I like the collab The collab makes everything You know what I mean It's bring two great artists together Into one show And they've got to make They've got to build that show it's not just come in and play your hits i would want to collab bruno mars with freddie mercury
Starting point is 00:41:31 and queen i like that show of all time the two greatest showmen of all time possibly on one stage oh fuck it they're gonna need to open that roof bruno's little ass is so goddamn powerful. The best live performer. We've talked about this before. He's the best live performer on the earth right now. Now, it should be noted, Maroon 5 has a ton of collabs with rappers. They have a song with Future, who's an Atlanta dude.
Starting point is 00:41:57 They have a song with Kendrick Lamar. They have a song with Wiz and Cardi B. So it's possible. It's the one with Wiz the very... Cardi B's throwing shoes at Nicki Minaj. Hey, old buddy's head that got hit with that helmet, tie one, two. Bro, keep your helmet on.
Starting point is 00:42:16 That looks so bad. So, so bad. It looks like an alien movie where the alien crawls into their mouth and then wiggles around in their head. It's exactly what it looks like. It looks like the alien movie where the alien crawls into their mouth and then wiggles around in their head. It's exactly what it looks like. It looks like the new vape commercials the government's putting out for kids not to vape. Have you seen those?
Starting point is 00:42:31 No. So they have these little kids hitting the jewels, and then they have it go through their skin. It's like you're putting a lot of chemicals into your body that you don't need. And it sticks out. That's exactly what it looks like, though. It looks like it's like something's sticking out. Nick, what is your – that's bad, though. That sucks for him.
Starting point is 00:42:51 He's probably done for at least a month or two. Yeah, he can't put a helmet on for at least a week or two. It's going to be longer than that. That's the head, bro. That's the head. Oh, yeah, then the stitch has got to heal. It's ugly. He's in a bad spot. I can't believe they stitched it, then the stitch has got to heal. It's ugly. He's in a bad spot.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I can't believe they stitched it, by the way. Back in my day, they put a butterfly band on it. I feel bad for him there. Tease and peace for his forehead. My dream Super Bowl halftime show would be headlined by Led Zeppelin. And then if we're doing collabs here, I would like to see Led Zeppelin and 2 Chainz're if we're doing collabs here i would like to see led zeppelin and two chains two chains also atlanta yeah titty boy there was so many options for them to choose from so many options and they go with a guy who's known for being on on nbc and the shows on cbs
Starting point is 00:43:43 it just it doesn't make much sense not that that matters what I just said right there but it just doesn't make much sense to me I think Justin Timberlake stands are going to be pissed off with you saying that Bruno's the greatest showman on earth because Justin Timberlake is selling out arenas with just a microphone and a circle stage in the middle of it listen I uh that microphone moves. I'm on JT's fan email list, so they know that I'm a fan of JT. Yeah, he fucking slides that mic around. He's 1B for me.
Starting point is 00:44:14 He's 1B. I like JT a lot. I think that Atlanta collab, though, could be awesome. Zito, have you thought about this? Yes, my collab would be John Denver and Carlos Santana. Oh, I actually don't mind that. It would be electric.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Me like Carlos Santana. What a fucking banger of a song that I haven't heard in forever. Hey, he used to put out Heaters. He has arthritis. He used to to put out heaters. He has arthritis. He used to be a part of everything. He has arthritis in his fingers. He can't play anymore? I'm pretty sure his hands are...
Starting point is 00:44:51 That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, that's tough. It might be a lie. I don't know. I read that in a gossip. Oh. Oh. Ladies and gents, turn on your sound system to the sound of Carlos Santana in the GMB product.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Get away blues from the refugee camp. Maria Marina, she remind me of a West Side Story. Going up in Spanish Harlem. What was his other favorite? Smooth, Rob Thomas. Oh, yeah, there it is. That's what I was originally thinking of. Thursday, bangers. This is a heater, bro.
Starting point is 00:45:43 This is Lusselt. Atlanta would burn down after they heard this. One of my soccer teammates, his sister's name was Maria. Yeah. And she, her life was miserable for fucking, her life was miserable when this song was out. It's like Felicia, what happened to Felicia? It was a bad situation, but that song was incredible.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Carlos Santana, you know what he sacrificed? Charged it to the game. Got arthritis in his fingers. It's like what's happening with these football players with their shoulders and stuff. Oh, the Hall of Famers? Hey, how about Dickerson coming out and triple downing on what he said? Just triple downing on what he said about the Hall of Famers getting paid. $300,000 salary.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Just, you know. That'd be pretty fucking awesome. I think we should start making a run for me to get to the Hall of Fame. That'd be pretty cool just to be able to collect that for the rest of my fucking life. I bet you T.O. would have shown up if it was part of the stipulation. You have to show up and do your speech if you get $300,000 a year. For sure he would. How about just some health care benefits? Yeah no they wanted better yeah the health but on top of it you know maybe just like $300,000 a year maybe the health insurance thing is
Starting point is 00:46:55 interesting because we get it for five years after we retire yeah so you get it for the next five years and then after that it's like the NFL just cuts ties with you basically I have I have um and it's not that they cut ties. This is just something that's been withstanding for a long time. And to be honest, this is something the NFLPA could have negotiated. This is an NFLPA thing, too. And I've been sat in a lot of team meetings where players were, hey, why don't we give money to some retired players?
Starting point is 00:47:25 And big officials in the NFLPA told me straight to my face, let them worry about their own business. We've got to worry about our business. It's like, well, we're all going to be retired players at some point. So that was a real conversation that had happened in team meetings whenever this new CBA was happening. And I was too young to talk at the time, but I'm a very observant human. And that was something that kind of caught my eye CBA was happening. And I was too young to talk at the time, but I'm very observant human. And that was something that kind of caught my eye when that was happening.
Starting point is 00:47:49 People were like, hey, why don't we give some money to retired players? And the players that were asking that question were asking that as like, hey, we're all going to be retired players at some point. And the answer was, they got to worry about their own business. We got to worry about our business, too. It's like, well, that is our business, motherfucker. The only person that isn't helping you would be you guys. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Who aren't players. Who are just working as NFLPA reps. Yeah, because I assume you guys are the ones paying the pension four or five years for each retired guy, right? It's coming out of your check. You're going into a pension fund. Pension's lifetime. The benefits is only five years.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I mean, yeah, I'm at the insurance package, too, as well. That's how, like with state police, we have money come out of our checks to pay for the retiree package benefits. I'm not sure, to be honest. Something's going on with my stuff. I keep hearing a sound. Do you hear that on that side? No. No, it's your earbuds are low on battery.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Maybe you should charge those every once in a while. I did, but my hole is my little case is not charged. It's at a full percenter. You got to charge the home. Charge the home, and then you put the pods in their little beds, and then they rest as well. These AirPods are some of the best things Apple's done since their original iPhone. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Agreed a million percent. This is Tim Cook's first success story. That was probably still Steve Jobs, to be honest with you. It's probably something he... Nerd Jesus. You guys love him? Why? I want it to be nicer.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Now go dig yourselves in a hole for a second. Bill Burr. Really ruined my thought of Steve Jobs. it to be nicer and they'll go dig yourselves in a hole but i don't know if we pay for the insurance or not i have no idea if that comes out of our checks i don't think everything is that negotiated in the cba but the conversation about paying retired players definitely came up in numerous conversations in the nflp the heads of the nflpa demorey smith included was like no we gotta take care of ourselves though it's like it sounds like you're taking care of you because all of us are gonna be retired maybe like maybe like 20 grand a year just to supplement whatever else they're doing but i think 300 is fucking ridiculous i think health insurance is a real thing yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:50:02 that's something i'm gonna i'll work for the rest of my life. I'm very happy and proud of that fact. I knew that my life was not over when football was over. Now, granted, I didn't have concussions and my shoulders didn't get banged up. I can still walk, that whole shit. But there's a lot of guys who, after their NFL career, it's it. And then they struggle with stuff for the rest of their lives. And you can get a payout.
Starting point is 00:50:24 What's that called? Injury comp? Oh, yeah. Workers' comp. Workers' comp. Guys get workers' comp, but the doctors are going to basically – I think they have to be approved by the NFL. I might be wrong.
Starting point is 00:50:37 So the doctors are going to – it's a very interesting situation, their workers' comp, but the no insurance thing is wild because a lot of guys just doing a lot of things. If I'm the Hall of Fame people, I'm leading off with the insurance, and then let's push so we don't look like assholes. At least you're doing a little PR-wise. Even if you go get another job, the pre-existing condition thing fucks a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:50:59 You know what I mean? Some insurance companies won't take you if you've already had a knee blowout or something. We just talked to Joseph Adais, 35, and sometimes it takes him a half hour to get to the bathroom he's gonna and his nfl insurance is probably already up it's a wild world the nfl we got an interview with albert breer coming up but before we send to that we gotta do some quick pics with myself and day quick pics um so you can keep track and follow along with our bets. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:25 The Sports Action app, My Action. What's it called, Diggs? Sports Action app is the app that you can download from the App Store. It's the greatest app on the face of the earth. And it actually now, you can sync it. Like you put your bets into MyBookie, and those bets literally sync right into the app to track. Because there's nothing like becoming a full-blown gambler,
Starting point is 00:51:46 which is what I've become, and I think anybody who starts dancing with it gets into it because it just makes the game so much better. You start forgetting, oh, what was the line for this? What did I put money on for that? How many points did I say they were going to get? Did the line move? And the Sports Action app from the My Action Network
Starting point is 00:52:03 just keeps up with everything. They literally keep up with everything they literally keep up with everything they show you a green dot if it's winning a red dot if you're losing come enjoy green dot city with digs and i at the sports action app keep track of all of your bets keep track of our bets and let's go ahead and give them some locks digsy and you can actually follow pat's bets at myaction.app. So if you want to see what Pat's betting on. And they also have this new thing.
Starting point is 00:52:31 It's win probability, where at any point in the game, you could go into the app, and they actually give you a percentage of chance of you covering your bet or losing your bet. Oh, that's a great progression. Which was great to start. And then at one point last week, I had like an 87% chance to win a bet. And then something happened,
Starting point is 00:52:44 and it dropped immediately to zero. So fuck that percentage. I was at 91% when the fucking Vikings won the line, Diggs. 91% when that kid was trotting out on the field to kick that 35-yard fucking game winner. I can see how people hate kickers, by the way. All right. We giving both of our picks?
Starting point is 00:53:05 I'm going Cleveland minus three tonight. Go ahead and lock that thing in. I locked in at minus three. I think it's minus three and a half now. This is the first time in forever they've been favored. Are the Jets going to view that as a slap in the face, or are the Browns going to see it as motivation? Is the dog pound going to be ready to go?
Starting point is 00:53:22 Is the butt light going to be unleashed on Cleveland finally? I got Cleveland minus three tonight. Todd Haley, Greg Williams, make it happen. You also had Bengals money line. You had Saints money line. Denver money line. Miami minus two and a half. Vikings minus 16 and a half.
Starting point is 00:53:39 And the Pats minus six and a half. I had the Colts plus six and a half. The Bengals plus three. The Broncos plus five. Give me all those Vikings minus 17 points until the Bills cover a game and the Pats minus six and a half. Well, perfect timing.
Starting point is 00:53:55 My AirPods just died. We gave you all of our quick picks. I think you're going to enjoy those. I think you're going to make a lot of money. The tide is turning. Last week, I got kicked square in the nuts from this gambling thing from my bookie. But all I did was invest in the greatest gambling site on earth. You, SeatGeek, go ahead and buy some tickets and go see something.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And the Sports Action app is the best place on earth to keep track of all your bets. And the fact that they're synced up with my bookie is absolutely beautiful. You don't have to pay attention to nothing. Just go ahead and see the green dots flowing. All those bets are locked from Diggs and I. And now I have to go throw some bags into a corner
Starting point is 00:54:33 that we had to travel around Orlando for. I got to go make a quick video for the WWE. Hopefully they get into business and the Pat McAfee business. And the boys over there in Indianapolis got to make and edit a quick hit, so you guys got to do your magic. Diggs, you look great today.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Thank you. That bald head is shining. Feels good. Feels real good. Kyle McComas, you look skinny, bub. Thank you. At Viva La Zita, I hope you're great. Go ahead and subscribe to our YouTube
Starting point is 00:55:03 to watch this, by the way. I'm literally in a hotel where you can catch Foxy. I'm getting a call now from Wallace from ESPN. I want to know what he's talking about. That's great. The whole show. But, ladies and gentlemen, another writer. We'll see you next Tuesday.
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Starting point is 00:55:34 Yeah, a screenshot of you subscribing to Pat McAfee Show YouTube and then you might get some merch. Yeah. Yeah, because we run our own merch company now, by the way. The Magic Shirts shut off my fucking credit card again.
Starting point is 00:55:49 That's a good thing. Couldn't even check into the hotel. All right, from all of us to all of you, thank you so much for listening. We'll see you on Tuesday. Albert Breer, head of Monday Morning Quarterback, sat down with us earlier this week for an incredible conversation. I think you're going to enjoy it. Other than that, have the best weekend of your life.
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Starting point is 00:56:28 You guys have a great one. Thank you so much for listening this has been the pat mcfee show albert breer on the other side of ty schmidt hit the music ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a man heralded as a great broadcaster great journalist and he's the head of Monday Morning Quarterback. Peter King, hand over the reins to this man right here. Ladies and gentlemen, he competed in the Pardon My Take Journalist Combine just a few months ago. Albert Breer. Yeah, I know you're probably still in the only athleticism I put on the spot there, right? Yeah, I mean, you're an incredible athlete, but you're an incredible writer as well. And there's so much happening right now in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Is it like a field day whenever it's your job to take over a media outlet like Monday Morning Quarterback? Yeah, you know, it's been interesting because I think things are changing so fast in our business. I'm sure, I mean, you know, you being been interesting because, you know, I think things are changing so fast in our business. I'm sure, I mean, you know, you being in it now, you see it. It's just, you know, I think for all of us, like, the content we have, like covering the NFL, there's a ton of demand for it. The question is how you're going to deliver it to the audience. And, you know, that means looking at, like, what the 20-year-old and what the 15-year-old is doing and how they're consuming content.
Starting point is 00:57:48 It's so much different than how you or I grew up reading the newspaper, reading magazines, just watching TV. You know, they're getting things through their phone. They're consuming things differently than we did. And for us, you know, it's kind of exciting in that, you know, we now have to look at, you know, what we're doing and really take a hard look at what the content we have. And it's not so much, you know, like, okay, like we want to do this or this or this differently. It's how do we want to deliver that content, you know?
Starting point is 00:58:16 And so that's what's been kind of interesting for me over the last two years working with Peter and now moving into this new role. And, yeah, I'm pumped to see where it all goes. How many people do you have working for you over there? I think we have about a half dozen dedicated writers, and then the magazine people work with us too, and then free editors. So I would say the MMQB staff, the people who are working directly for the site, is probably about 10.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And then, you know, we've got like the Sports Illustrated, NFL staff too, which, you know, we all sort of work together. And, you know, they cross over to us, and we cross over to them some too. How bad did you bash kickers and punters yesterday? Did I bash kickers and punters? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did a little bit. Zane Gonzalez had a rough one, right? Yeah, Daniel Carlson also a rough one.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Both of them have been kicked out of the NFL. Hector was a hero. Hector almost made up for the rest of them because he had an emergency situation going to do something that was out of his comfort zone. So I'll hand it to Johnny Hector. I agree completely. He's positive here, Pat. I agree completely with that, and I love that.
Starting point is 00:59:27 That's not usually the journalism way is being positive. I know, I know. I was just trying to find a silver lining for you there. Does the NFL stand a chance against all of its PR bullshit that continues to happen and happen and happen? For instance, and now that the NFL is so large, everything that happens is just scrutinized to the uptenth degree. Antonio Brown sends out a tweet today,
Starting point is 00:59:50 trade me then after a local reporter talks about him being a system-wide receiver. That's just one particular incident. Now, if 32 NFL teams, anything bad happens with the internet and how large the NFL is, it sprays everywhere. Will the NFL be able to survive these PR nightmares that seem to happen on a very regular basis these days? The funny thing about the Antonio Brown thing, that wasn't a media guy. That was one of their ex-PR guys who worked in the PR department there for seven years.
Starting point is 01:00:18 And so there's something going on there. But I think a big part of the NFL problem has been that they're not very good at addressing problems. You know, I think the anthem is a perfect example of it. Like, I think in May, we could have all guessed, like, we could have all said, like, well, you know, if you're going to put this policy in place, then it's going to create more of a problem because each team is going to be setting its own policy and you're going to have different rules from place to place.
Starting point is 01:00:43 And it's going to be news story after news story about how all these different teams are handling it and they kept telling us no no the focus can be back on football me or you or anyone else could have forecast how that how that was going to go it turned into a disaster for them it took i mean one thing happening for them to completely reverse course and i think it was indicative of the issues we've had in general where you know I think over the years you look at it and they've constantly been in damage control because they've been very poor at forecasting issues you know I think you look at the domestic violence stuff like how they handle that the management of those things in the front end it's just it's issue after issue where I think anyone with common sense
Starting point is 01:01:26 could look at it and say, like, wow, they're really screwing this up. And they can't see that for themselves. So I think that's part of the reason why you're seeing some of the owners pushing for some reorganization of the league office. And I think a big reason why we've seen some turnover in the league office over the last year or two. Reading your Wikipedia, it said that you were holding the NFL's bags, basically, there for the Colin Kaepernick situation.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Do you believe that's fair, or do you believe that at the moment you didn't have all the proper information or the right information? I should tell you this, Pat. I did my best to try and get as real a perspective as I could on that. You know, I called as many teams as I possibly could. I asked them why they weren't pursuing it because, you know, the best thing I can do is pursue the truth, you know. And I know that this narrative or that narrative gets out there on social media
Starting point is 01:02:24 and it becomes like a runaway freight train, you know, like a couple of people believe something and it becomes truth, you know? And what I try to do in that situation was try to make it, try to figure out what was really happening inside these buildings. And I just tell you like the, as best I could tell, and this is kind of a tough way to, you know, you don't want to put it this way because he's not, like it's not like the same type of trouble that other guys bring,
Starting point is 01:02:51 but I think you know this, is that most NFL teams have a higher threshold for what they're willing to put up with the better the player is. And so if you're one of the top five or 10 players in the roster, teams are willing to put up with a lot. If you're a 30th or 40th, they're willing to put up with almost nothing. And I think that's where Colin Kaepernick ran into a problem, was where if he was still a guy who's going to be a starting quarterback,
Starting point is 01:03:14 a star in the league, and top five player on a roster, well, I think the teams would have been willing to put up with almost anything. But if it's your backup quarterback, the threshold of what they're willing to put up with and what they're willing to bring in is a whole lot lower. And so, you know, that was the explanation I got from most teams. I know I got crushed for it. You know, my job isn't to manage what people think.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I mean, my job is to try and pursue the truth, and that's what I was doing. Oh, what a tagline there. Be who you can afford to be, the number one line in all of the NFL. That's everything. Carson Wentz is coming back for the Philadelphia Eagles even though Foles is Super Bowl
Starting point is 01:03:51 MVP. Now granted, they lost to the unbeatable Fitzmagic and the Buccaneers this past weekend, but if Carson Wentz struggles out the gate, do you think Philadelphia will have a lot of bitching going on over there about potential Foles being in instead of Wentz no because i think i mean and i've talked about pearson a couple times about this over the last couple of months you know the way that he views
Starting point is 01:04:13 it i think the way that he views organizationally is everything that they do um you know with carson wants to seem to like a 10 year or 15ism, right? So being careful with him and holding him back the first couple of weeks and being cautious with him through his rehab, that was, well, this guy's going to be here for 15 years. So why would we be worried about getting him in there for an extra week or two or pushing him for an extra week or two? Wouldn't be smart to do that. And so I think when he gets back in the field, it's the same sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:04:44 You know, if there are going to be some bumps coming back from a major knee injury, well, that's part of the deal. We'll have to incur those bumps, and we're going to do what's best for us long term. A big piece of why that was one of the first things Harry Roseman did when he got control back in 2016 was he looked know, he looked at some of the other organizations across the league and saw how Eli Manning had created stability for the Giants and how Phillip Rivers had created stability
Starting point is 01:05:11 for the Chargers and how Ben Roethlisberger had created stability for the Steelers. You know, and obviously you're more of these ones like Manning with the Colts and Brady with the Patriots. And it's like, you know, if you're stable at that position, it creates stability, of course, across the organization for a long period of time. And that's the way they view it with Carson Wentz. So, you know, if it means enduring, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:34 a little bit of a bumpy four or six weeks back if he gets comfortable with the knee, so be it. He's going to be there for 15 years. Green Bay Packers just paid Aaron Rodgers $100 million, another man that goes into that category where if you have somebody there, it creates some comfort for the team and something to build around. Is this an injury that Aaron Rodgers is going to battle all year, or are they going to look
Starting point is 01:05:57 and find a week where they can rest him, or two weeks they can rest him, to your knowledge? I didn't understand anything they were going to let them play. I think what made it complicated a little bit is just how important this one game was. They're not going to... I don't think Mike McCarthy or the Packers are going to come out and say it.
Starting point is 01:06:18 But the fact is that that game was different. Playing against the Vikings and this is the home end of the home-in-home with the Vikings, that game could be the difference between, you know, being at home the first of the general wildcard weekend and then playing a home game in the divisional round and going on the road in the wildcard round. It's the difference between potentially the one or the two seed and the five or the six
Starting point is 01:06:43 seed. So, you know, I think that, you know, Roger's mentality and the Packers' mentality was to try and get out there. And so now that he's been out there, I think he's going to pull back and go back to the bench. What I do think is going to happen, I do think they're going to continue to manage him a certain way. And so if they can find ways to get him breaks, they've got a big lead in the game over the next couple of weeks, you know, then I think they'll do that. Because my understanding is that this bruise is largely a pain management issue, but there is some damage that can be done putting him out there.
Starting point is 01:07:18 And so they're going to be very, very careful about that. Ian Rappaport just broke some news that the Patriots are getting close on a deal with wide receiver Josh Gordon. Is that the Patriots just getting what the Patriots always do, the rich getting richer? Unbelievable situation, Albert Breer, if this comes to fruition. Well, if he can play. I mean, I think he's played 11 games in the last four years, right?
Starting point is 01:07:43 So if he can get them back, the lineup, I think that, you know, that obviously will be potentially a game changer. I think you put him on that roster. He is the most talented player on that roster, including, you know, Rob Gronkowski, who's a physically gifted guy on that roster. And so there's a super, super high end. Better than Gronk. Albert, you're paid to talk about football.
Starting point is 01:08:09 You're saying that if Josh Gordon gets on that team, he's the best football player on. Tom Brady, the greatest quarterback of all time. Rob Gronkowski's Albert. You're paid to talk about the NFL. Pat, not the best. The most physically gifted. Okay. What do you mean, Gronkowski is a Clydesdale who runs
Starting point is 01:08:29 like a ninja? What are we... Not the best. He'd be the most physically gifted. He's outrageously talented. We all know that. In year two, a receiver's a hard position to play when you're a first or a second year player. In year two, he had 1,600 yards and nine touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:08:48 I mean, he is a freak. And so the question with him has always been, can you find a way to get him on the field? And that's going to be a challenge, you know, because of all the baggage he has in his past. And I think one thing that makes the Patriots uniquely qualified to handle this, I think for most teams they would look at it and they would say, well, acquiring them in March is different than acquiring them in September, right? Like if you acquire them in March, you'll kind of figure out over two or three months, okay, does he fit in here?
Starting point is 01:09:18 Is he going to work straight and narrow? In September you acquire him and if it's a week-to-week thing, it can kind of become a distraction. It can be a problem in your locker room. I'm the Patriots are one of the few locker rooms who's got the ability to absorb that sort of thing. I think learning the Patriots playbook might be more difficult than people think because it's a lot of if this, then this.
Starting point is 01:09:38 I think that'll be a very interesting situation for Josh, but man, that locker room's the one that can handle any type of personality like that to come inside of it because i think you you watch what tom's doing you watch how the way belichick operates you watch and you're like okay now i'm for real not at the one in 32 browns where you can kind of call your own shot and do whatever that's a wild situation he ends up up watch him go get a super bowl ring this year i know i know i'm sure there are a lot of people who are looking at this right now and are sick to their stomach over it even if
Starting point is 01:10:11 it is 20 chance that it becomes that like there are probably a lot of people out there that are sick of this i have no idea how he doesn't end up on the los angeles rams it seems like they're just picking up every good player in football somehow and It makes sense for the Browns, right? Because he put them in the NFC and he's not your problem anymore. The LA Rams, you think they're going to be able to keep it together with all those personalities all year? They seem to be unstoppable at this time.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Yeah, and that's I think that's been the challenge since the start. And I would tell you this, having been around Sean and knowing the way that he runs that this, I mean, you know, having been around, you know, Sean and knowing the way that he runs that program, I do think one of the advantages that having a 32-year-old head coach and having such a dynamic personality in your head coach has given them
Starting point is 01:10:57 is it allows them to sort of cast a wider net from a talent standpoint, right? Like there's this feeling there like, okay, like, you know, we can go and bring in guys who are a little bit different because we've got a head coach who's a force of nature, and he'll figure it out, and he'll find a way to make this all work. It's a dangerous game to play, but I certainly understand why you would do it. You would capitalize on the fact that you do have a head coach like that, and so their feeling is that having these guys, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:24 having Sean and having that coaching staff in place, do have a head coach like that and so their feeling is that having these guys you know as having having having sean and having that coaching staff in place um you know having guys like wade phillips on the staff like that that allows them to cast a wider net and bring in a lot of different personalities he's rain man huh that video of him servicing recalling plays from two three years ago was unbelievable oh it was incredible. Absolutely. He's got good hair, too. He's out there in L.A. He's attractive. Yeah, he lives in L.A.
Starting point is 01:11:49 He's got a place up in the hills. It's good to be Sean McVay right now. How about you? Where do you live full-time? Oh, I'm boring now. We were in the city until two and a half years ago, but we're in the suburbs now. Yeah, two kids living out in the suburbs,
Starting point is 01:12:05 like halfway between Boston and Cape Cod. It's a pretty boring life I lead. Albert, I heard you used to like to have a good time, though. Is that true? Oh, I still do. I still do. It's just a little harder for me. I got to work a little bit more for it now.
Starting point is 01:12:20 What were you, a pub bar guy or a nightclub guy? Shots or beers? Oh, I'm way more. No, no, no. I'm a bar guy. Don't mix that? Shots or beers? Oh, I'm way more. No, no, no. I'm a bar guy. Don't mix that up. I can't do clubs anymore either.
Starting point is 01:12:29 I'm old. I got hemorrhoids. Oh, I go into a cold on the wall. I'll tell you what. If you put me in a club, I don't know what to do. What's your favorite story you've ever written in your life? I don't know. I mean, I think the ones that are the best, the ones that are, like, the hardest to get, you know, I mean, there are some weird ones.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Like, I wrote about, like, when I was in Dallas, this was when I was 27. Yeah, I wrote about this guy who had been on the original Cowboys team who, like, lived in this commune. And he was a really good player in the 60 who, like, lived in this commune. Like, and he was a really good player in the 60s. And he lived in this commune, and it was, like, almost like a cult. And I had to go to North Carolina and track him down. You know, I found him, and he slammed the door in my face. And, you know, so that was an interesting one.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I think those are the ones, like, just covering the NFL that I think, you know, you feel at least like you are able to kind of get behind closed doors. I mean, I think the more recent ones, there was one I did was on Sam Darnold, the Jets' whole process over two years of finding a way to evaluate the quarterbacks and get information on the quarterbacks and ultimately taking them. So I have a hard time answering that question. You know, and then there's the TV stuff I did too, have done too,
Starting point is 01:13:44 which is like, you know, standing in front of office buildings for six months during the lockout so it's hard for me to pick one because there's a lot of different types of things that i've done were you supposed to get into news or was sports always going to sports journalism i i was always sports i you know i i actually the way I got into this is funny. I had terrible grades when I was in high school, and my dad decided, like, you know, you've got to do something. And we're going to find a way. There's going to be nothing in your college resume if you don't do something. So I was playing high school football all the time,
Starting point is 01:14:21 and he called up the local sports editor and said, would you have something for him? And then I started writing about the team that I was on, and that was probably to follow my junior year. And I guess I did a decent job on that. The sports editor there said to me, well, how about we come bring you in, and you can cover a sport that you don't play. And so I think I covered like the girls' basketball team for a little while after that or something like that.
Starting point is 01:14:50 And it was great because it was high school and I was getting like $50,000 a year, which felt like $5,000 at the time, you know. And one thing led to another. It wasn't like I had this great plan to get into journalism. You know, I always knew I wanted to be involved in sports. I knew I'd never come close to being good enough to ever get paid to play. I thought about coaching for a long time and I kind of wound up
Starting point is 01:15:09 doing it. I'll tell you what, a little bit of a snitch in the locker room, you're writing while playing for a team. Yeah, I was a narc. Alright, Albert Breer, I appreciate you so much for joining us, brother. All right, thanks, Pat. Hey, MMQB on the internet.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Check out everything Albert Breer and his six writers do. Half a dozen, by the way. Great lingo for six. He hung up. I would have hung up. Are we good, Pat? No, I'm good. Hey, great lingo for six by the way half a dozen
Starting point is 01:15:46 not a dozen like that yeah i guess it's very northeast of me yeah i mean it's pretty elitist of you yeah yeah hey albert this is a real question yeah how come some and i won't say all because i don't believe that you should ever paint with a broad brush how come some sports journalists feel as if they're bigger than the games that they're covering? I don't know. I've always taken that pro. I've always thought it was kind of like all of our jobs are stupid.
Starting point is 01:16:18 You know what I mean? I don't think like pro sports are to be taken that seriously by people who aren't playing them. So, like, if that's not to be taken that seriously, then why should we take ourselves seriously? You know what I mean? Like, it's just, I don't know. Maybe it's because, like, my wife's a nurse, and she does, and her job is, like, way more, like, I mean, she's, like, literally like, like working in a children's hospital saving lives. And I'm sitting over here, like scribbling down, like, what so-and-so did on Thursday.
Starting point is 01:16:50 You know what I mean? Like, it's just. Josh Gordon just signed with the New England Patriots. Yeah, babe, I was a part of a heart translator. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But Belichick just fucking did it again, babe. That's hilarious. Perspective putter right there.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Yeah, yeah,ichick just fucking did it again, babe. That's hilarious. Perspective putter right there. Yeah, yeah. So. All right. Yeah, that's, I mean, I just never, like, I honestly, like, I don't know. The whole bigger than the game thing is, I don't know. I don't know. I just, when I see people, when I see that sort of chest pounding, I don't know. I sort of roll my eyes at it, you know?
Starting point is 01:17:24 Well, I can respect that you roll your eyes at it because I want to punch him in the face. So that's a little bit of a different operation. I respect that. Coming to us live from a train, ladies and gentlemen, head of Monday Morning Quarterback, congratulations on the job promotion. Keep up the great work. Thank you so much for joining us, ladies and gentlemen, Albert Breer.
Starting point is 01:17:44 All right, thanks, Pat. Thank you, Albert. I appreciate you, man. Safe travels. All right, have a good one, Pat. gentlemen, Albert Breer. All right. Thanks, Pat. Thank you, Albert. I appreciate you, man. Safe travels. All right. Have a good one, Pat. See you. Thank you.

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