The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 008 - Kirk Herbstreit

Episode Date: September 27, 2018

On today's show, Pat discusses whether or not he thinks having a QB on a rookie contract and paying other pieces is the way to win a Super Bowl for the foreseeable future, and the guys look ahead to tonight's Vikings vs. Rams game and how Sean McVay has had so much success this early, and Pat explains why he misses watching Lev Bell play football. Later, the voice and face of college football, King of College Gameday, Kirk Herbstreit, joins the show. They discuss how his career has gotten to the point it's currently at, his ridiculous travel schedule, what it's like working with Lee Corso on a weekly basis, what some of his favorite college football environments are, and who he thinks will win the National Championship this year (57:50-1:18:23). It's a good one. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I sent out a tweet last night saying, if you can name who it is, you will win some free merch. Ain't nobody guessed it because I don't think this guy does many interviews, to be honest. I don't think he does. He's a man who is very handsome. You see him on TV a lot. He's a big swinging dick whenever it comes to college football. And I cannot wait to chat with him later.

It'll be a blast. Also, today is the first day of Thursday Night Football airing on Amazon Prime. Shout out to Andrea Kramer and Hannah Storm for getting the gig. The internet had mixed reviews on that whole idea. Can't be worse than Tessa Torr and Witten. How much did Amazon pay for the contract? $130 million. $130 million.

They got Hannah Storm and Andrea Kramer calling the game. And all I've ever seen anybody really tweet is like, who's actually going to watch on Amazon Prime? I'd assume if they're paying $100 and some million, they're expecting some people to watch on there. And I can't wait to see how Hannah and Andrea do. What if they're just incredible out of nowhere? The two-lady booth, very, very forward-thinking decision.

I'm excited to see how it works out. I can't wait until we get a female head ref, too. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Because there's a couple that work. Side judges. Side judges, yeah. And they have to.

By the way, side judges are the worst part because you have to sit right next to the head coach. Are they the ones that are always getting chewed out? Oh, yeah, right there. Even if they don't make the call, there's a pass interference on the back end by the umpire, and they're just sitting there, and Bruce Aaron's like, you motherfucker. Even if they don't make the call, there's a pass interference on the back end by the umpire, and they're just sitting there, and Bruce Aaron's like,

you motherfucking Aaron. What do you want me to do? Do you want me to radio it over there? What do you want? They're in a bad spot there. I'm excited for that. Football becoming a more open sport for the ladies is only good for business.

It's only good for business. That's all that really matters. They're also airing it because Amazon owns Twitch. Apparently, they're streaming it live on Twitch for free as well. Oh, let's go. Oh, look at the little Twitchy poo. 100 million people. First night for Fox, too.

So I wonder if all these places were like, hey, give us a fucking good game for the first Thursday night game. Because it's a big one tonight. Vikings hopefully bouncing back after Bill's mafia storm-peated to Skull Castle and stomped a mud hole in their Viking ass. Los Angeles Rams at home, though, it's going to be tough to beat. They seem to be an unstoppable

force. I think the Vikings are about to roll 0-2 in two weeks and four days quickly. That's not good for them. It's great for the Rams, though. Old McVay over there is living a life. There was an article written that a lot of players are playing harder because they're trying to impress McVay's girlfriend. I don't disagree.

McVay is living over there, man. He's got that team ready to go. They got a bunch of weapons. What if, and we talked about this, I don't know if we talked about this on the show or off air, what if this whole load up your team on a rookie contract quarterback becomes the way to win? Everybody always says you have to have a good quarterback to win. You have to quarterback becomes the way to win. Everybody always says you have to

have a good quarterback to win. You have to have a good quarterback to win. You have to have a good quarterback to win. So then whenever you get a good quarterback, you got to pay them 25, 30% of the salary cap. It's just the way it goes. It happened with Seattle. They got screwed. It's going to happen. It happened with luck here. It's happening everywhere. You see a young quarterback do well, and then they got to pay the quarterback and then the team vanishes gone nobody can be afforded anymore what if what the rams are doing what jared goff on his rookie contract becomes the standard where they're telling free agents hey listen this is a one year two year thing we're gonna dump a lot of money into your

pockets let's go and get it now we'll control all the attitudes in here strictly because we're here to win. That's it. What if when Goff's contract is up, the Rams go, yep, see you later. We're going to get another two, three rookie quarterbacks, see if we can find one that can pull off what McVay's offense is, and we're going to continue to load our team up. What if that becomes the recipe for success? What if the overarching salary cap building to make quarterbacks richer completely backfires and all these motherfuckers are out of a goddamn job like special

teamers after four years? What if that becomes the way? That'll be wild to think about. Then all the athletic college quarterbacks will switch to receiver. Julian Adam, that's already what they're doing basically. You're asking what if? I think it already is and it's already what they're doing, basically. Yeah, you're asking what if. I think it already is, and it's just taking us now to notice it. Now, is it sustainable?

I don't know. We'll see. Because Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs right now, Patrick Mahomes, Kareem Hunt, Tyreek Hill, they ain't paying none of them, right? So it's like the Seattle Seahawks were, but on the opposite, because it's on the offensive side of the ball, as opposed to the Legion of Boom, which is on the defensive side of the ball. But when they have to pay some of them, people are going to disappear.

They're not going to be as dynamic. But what if? Now, Mahomes is just elite. Mahomes is a different animal. From what we've seen, from Andy Reid pulling the trigger on sending Alex Smith the fuck out of Kansas City, no more barbecue, get your ass over there to Swamp, Washington, D.C. Have a good time over there for this young guy.

What if that really does become the thing, though? Quarterback's contract is up. Sorry, you're going to have to go somewhere else. See you later. We're just going to build up the team with a bunch of studs. We're going to overpay the rest of the team in comparison to what normally that position group gets, and we're not going to pay you. What if that happens? It's some balls to do it it's gonna take a ballsy gm to do

it like the if say the rams get a super bowl with with uh jared goff and then when his contract's up they just let him walk that's a it's a ballsy move is it though is it i don't know if it is because if you can keep aaron donald and indomitian know if it is. Because if you can keep Aaron Donald and Ndamukong Suh on the D-line, and you can keep Aqib Tlaib and Todd Gurley, and you can keep the whole squad together, it's like, yeah, well, we're going to roll the dice. We're going to bring in a Brogan. We're going to see if Brogan can operate.

We're going to bring in maybe an older vet quarterback who's already been around. Like Hasselbeck signed with the Colts there at the end of his career for like $4 million a year or something like that and he was already in pro bowls he was in playoffs he was in situations where he threw picks after saying we want the ball and we're going to score you get one of those guys in late who can just come in and just kind of feed the beast a little bit that's an interesting this is a very interesting thought with what the Rams are doing you think quarterback contracts are going to go straight

down from now on? If people start doing, like if McVay does this with Jared Goff, if they become very successful, which I'm thinking they will. I'm thinking they will. This team looks damn good. Anytime you have Aaron Donald on a team, first of all, that is just completely wrecking an offensive line and an offensive strategy, you're ready to go.

But then you pack on the back end an incredible secondary. Plus you put Indomitian Sioux friend of Warren Buffett next to him. I mean, there's just a lot of options there. And then on the offensive side of the ball, you had the Offensive Player of the Year, and Todd Gurley's still there. And who's their wide receiver for them? Brandon Cooks. They got Brandon Cooks from the Patriots and ended up paying him a little bit.

They got a lot of weapons. So if McVay, it would take huge gut sack, especially in Los Angeles. It would take huge gut sack to be like, hey, our Southern California quarterback, Jared Goff, who has led us to blah, blah, blah. His contract is up. We don't want to pay him $150 fucking million.

We'd rather take a shot on three other young guys and see if any of them can do what McVay wants them to do, and that'll be wild. There's also the perfect storm because players that they got for cheap, like Cooks and Peters and Sue and Tlaib, were guys who they just kind of overstayed their welcome with their teams just attitude-wise.

So it's kind of like a perfect storm to get all those players for cheap. Yep. Let's assume that that's going to continue to happen, though, with the way the world is changing social media-wise in the fishbowl. Let's assume that people are overstaying their welcome. Lev Bell, for instance, there's a guy that's overstaying his welcome. Let's assume that the stars of teams are going to be considered too prima donna-ish for their regular teams.

And then as soon as that happens, though, you've got to – like, look, whenever that left bell trade was up there, everybody in Pittsburgh hates left bell. Everybody in Pittsburgh hates James Harrison even more now for what James Harrison came out and said. Hey, I would sit out until week 10 and fake an injury and not play a single down. And you've got all of Pittsburgh upside down about what Jamesrison's but if you look at the comments on the internet every single team

is like yo bring lev bell and his fat rapping ass right in here we do not care everybody's like come on in it's just like josh gordon right the browns are sick of josh gordon they're sick of his shit what happens to the patriots fans are like come on, come on up, Flash. We're ready to go. It's something that happens in the NFL. I think a lot will depend on the Patriots, too. If they don't have a great season this year, because the Patriots model is the only thing that upsets the apple cart on that theory, right? We can still win Super Bowls with a quarterback in his late 30s.

Only because Brady has admittedly, willingly took less than the market to allow better players around him. Still a lot of quarterbacks would be happy with that money. No, no. Those young up-and-coming quarterbacks that are up for their new contract, they're told by NFLPA, their agents, that you have to set, that you have to set the thing. Because if you don't, the next quarterback won't get the money. That's like, that is one of the biggest things,

which is such a joke to me, is the younger quarterback. Like Andrew Luck. I thought Andrew Luck was going to be a guy who comes from a very wealthy family. He's got a very wealthy profession on deck. All these things. I thought he was going to be the guy that was going to be like, you know what? Why don't we protect me so i don't blow out my liver my shoulder my everything why don't we spend a little bit less money on me go ahead and get the line built up a

little bit let's build up the team but instead it's the complete opposite you got your agent telling you you got the nflpa telling you hey you have to set the standard because the next guy after you is going to get more so you have to go you have to do that standard because the next guy after you is going to get more. So you have to go. You have to do that. So then it would take quarterbacks to defy the agent almost and be like, no, I want to stay with this system, so I am going to take less. Tom Brady. And then forever it's changed.

Tom Brady is the picture of that. Now, granted, he's not taking as big of a pay cut as it looks because he's getting a lot of the money on the front end instead, but he's still taking less than what Andrewrew luck's making he's still taking less freeing up cap space yes he's freeing up money for other players so that is what it would take but with that being said if you get rid of the thought of instead of 20 million a year 25 million a year 15 million a year and you get somebody that's just five million a year and they can just system quarterback their way to a win it's like that's 10 million dollars freed up from one position is a lot of fucking money you can get two really good

players at another position other than that you know that's what i was very interested what jacksonville was going to do with bordles because he was in a similar situation where their defense is really good they got a lot of guys they're going to have to pay and bordles was up and it's like you know what blake bordles is he He's not elite, but he's not terrible. He's kind of middle of the road. So they did a short-term deal for a decent amount of money, but it's not incredible. So I think they're in a good spot there.

They can just kind of ride that out and see what happens. Blake Bortles would be ripping cigs on a construction site. I love Blake Bortles. I absolutely love his mindset. I love everything. He's rich. He's very rich, but he's nowhere near the high-end money that everybody else is making. If I'm a betting man, which I am, I'm betting the teams are going to start doing the—

I think they're going to start realizing, like, oh, look, all the teams that are successful, aside from the Patriots, are the teams that have rookie quarterbacks because they can pay everybody else. And I'll be excited to see if this just all comes collapsing down on quarterbacks and their big fucking money i'll be so excited now granted you're gonna have to pay the patrick mahomes of the world you're gonna have to pay because i guess they'll become two models it becomes two models you either do the we'll pay the quarterback and he has to win us the games that's what they did with russell wilson in seattle he's not good enough to just win games by himself

and you got to come to this. He's going to have anybody around him. You can't fucking afford anybody around him because you guys paid him so much money. Tom Brady's a guy, though, that can win. He can win. Now, granted, you got Gronk and Julian Edelman. You got a good core there. But you look on the defense side of the ball, they can't stop a fucking running nose right now.

They can't stop anybody over there. First 100-yard rusher since Reggie Bush. Perryon Johnson. Yeah since Reggie Bush. Congrats to Kerryon. Kerryon Johnson. Yeah, Reggie Bush is agreeing to very cheap deals to be on TV. That is the only thing I know. That is all I got. Go ahead.

To your point, though, you find a guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's making like $3 million a year this year. If he's on the Rams, they're Dyson teams, I think. Yeah, because McVay, let's go ahead and call it for what it is. McVay seems to be Rain Man-like football guy. Yeah, for sure. Genius football guy. 32 years, 33 years old, head coach in the NFL,

handling all those. First of all, the head coach is the GM of the football operations, right? He's got to set the schedules. He's got to set the meeting times, how the equipment managers act, how the athletic trainers act, when they're in the building, when they're not in the building. That's like you're the CEO, basically, of the football team. As a 33-year-old, I don't think there's many 33-year-old CEOs

that are fucking handling multimillion-dollar operations like McVay. Then you get that question on Bleacher Report from Sims and what's-his-face, and he's recalling plays from blah, blah. Now, granted, I think a lot of people could do that, but still it was very interesting to just watch his brain go bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, and then you watch the success. It's like it seems like they got the guy in there, and you just bring in a couple young quarterbacks that are cheap.

Hey, we're not going to ask you to do too much. a deep ball here and there hand but you got todd girley right fucking behind you hand the ball off to him a little bit and let's go ahead and get these wins just don't fuck it up and that's an interesting jared goff has got to feel a little bit disrespected by all the shit that's being written though a little bit it's like jared goff like jared system great everybody can do what the fuck you're doing that's basically what they're saying but if i'm a betting man which i am on my bookie dot ag using promo code pat getting a hundred percent bonus on my first deposit up to a thousand dollars i'm hammering the thought that this is the new recipe for success in the nfl I honestly believe that this is what it's going to be

because there's an abundance of quarterbacks that can do things. There's an abundance of them. Every college quarterback is the star in his little city, right? Everyone. Will Greer. Look at Will Greer. Who knows if Will Greer will become Aaron Rodgers, but Will Greer can get a fucking ball to a receiver 20-yard out if he has to.

You don't need an elite guy if you've got a great system and a receiver 20 yard out if he has to you know like that's you don't need an elite guy if you got a great system and a great team around him i think i'm betting that that is what's going to happen other than that very happy that we bankrupted my bookie on that cornhole challenge it just happened obviously we're recording this about an hour and a half before that takes place but i feel very good about being in the home court on these corn holes. I got a little inside information from my bookie that told me more money is bet on these Beat Pat McAfee challenges than any hockey game in history. Nick, a little shots fired at hockey fans and hockey action. They're smart with their money.

Okay. I'm hammering the Flyers early. Flyers are going to be good this year. Because of Gritty. I don't even know about their team, but I know Gritty's going to bring an energy to that city that ain't nobody can touch. And that says a lot to get Philadelphia riled up like that.

That thing has come in and taken over. They're selling so much merch. He's the next generation of mascots, too. So much. Next generation of mascots too next generation of mascots we got mascots out here that are the worst the worst that are super fun and blah blah blah now you got like a comedian out there a guy who's like yeah listen i ain't for the kids i don't think i can't skate i can't do shit i'm this i think it's brilliant by the flyers absolutely

brilliant hopefully they're they good, but not great. Hopefully they continue to lose. It'll be awesome. But hopefully Gritty gets some primetime games out there. I picture it as a really, really fucked up Chaz Michael Michaels. When he's starting to sweat inside the suit. He starts to puke. I love that.

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Tonight, Rams, Vikings, who you got? Straight up, we're talking spreads. I'm definitely taking Vikings plus 7.5 now. That's a lot of points, especially with their two corners out. I'm taking Vikings. Bro, it's at home in L.A. Thursday night, though. The stars are coming out. I can't wait to see who, because this is Amazon's first game too, right?

So Amazon is going to be probably asking a lot of the L.A. people to come to this game as well. I'm excited to see just the red carpet that happens. McVay wrote the classic newspaper, let everyone out of work early memo to the city. So, yeah, they should be packed. I got Rams. What is it that did it for Zito?

What's the money line on the Rams? The Rams are minus 3-something, 340, I think. What time's the game? 820. So it's 520 in LA. Yeah, you got to get out working. So traffic, what's that? Three o'clock, you got to get out there.

And LA is Ram City, though, right? Yeah. The Chargers showed up late. They showed up a year late, and they were a dollar short with how their team was. That's a Ram City. They also, the Rams were there before. So them coming back there, they were already Rams fans there. Oh, yeah, from way That's a Rams city now. They also, the Rams were there before. Like, so them coming back there, they were already Rams fans there.

Oh, yeah, from way back. LA Rams, yeah. Yeah, the LA Rams. Also the LA Raiders, too, at one point, weren't they? The Raiders. Fucking Dickerson was their star, asking for $300,000 a year salary for all the famers. Well, there's also gang fights happening, right?

Black and silver. That became like a really bad situation down there in LA. I think it became a bad spot for them. I'm thinking the Rams win. Seven and a half is a big spread, though. But that is a team. Prime time, right? Dwight Freeney told me, when the lights come on,

that's when your big-time players have to make big-time plays. That is literally what Dwight Freeney told me. You ever watch Dwight Freeney in a Monday night football game, Thursday night football game, Sunday night football game? There is a sack coming out of Dwight Freeney told me. You ever watch Dwight Freeney in a Monday night football game, Thursday night football game, Sunday night football game, there is a sack coming out of Dwight Freeney. It is a guarantee lock. He can do that.

That's all their team is, is big time players. And the reason why big time players have big names is because in the big situations when the lights are on, that's whenever they make plays. And when your entire team

is big names, there is a reason. And I'd assume that the Rams are going to have a big evening tonight. Seven and a half is a big number. Yeah, with both of those corners out. If Tlaib and Peters were both playing, I would have had a hard time taking the seven and a half. But with them out, I'm taking the seven and a half.

Seven and a half is a lot of points. Against Dillon and Diggs, they may go wild. You think old Kirk Cousins is going to bounce back from getting a buildup? It might be a high scoring game you think over? no I'm done betting over unders for the rest of my life we need to make a gif of Thor hitting the over

you know what I mean because I was looking for that this morning for the B-Pat McAfee tweet this morning I wanted the Thor hammer coming down hammer the over I like it me too I was searching the gif thing Thor hammer coming down. Oh, hammer the over. Hammer the over, yeah. I like it. Yeah. Me too.

I was searching the GIF thing, like 17, 18 scroller. I was like, come on. There has to be something on here. And there was nothing real. It'll be made by 12 o'clock. Perfect. Appreciate that. Go ahead and hit that fucking GIF that Zito just put together. What's going on in the superhero world?

Is there anything going on? Captain Marvel? Captain Marvel is coming out in March. What's a Captain Marvel? Are they just making people up now? No, no, no. It's Brie Larson. Brie Larson.

It's a woman. Please have some respect. Yikes. Yikes. Chris Evans, Captain America, announced or an interview came out that he's done after the next movie. Isn't there a Venom movie coming out? There's a Venom movie with Tom Hardy coming out.

The trailer for... Captain America's about to be open? Yep. The trailer for X-Men, Dark Phoenix, the newest X-Men movie just dropped today. What's Captain America look like? Chris Evans. Brown hair.

Good looking, dude. Dark hair, yeah. About 6'2", 225, 235. 6'1", 240. Maybe he's a little stockier in the future. Huh? I don't mind that. What is it, Captain America?

Yeah, it's the guy. That's who Nick is for Halloween every year. That's your shield thing that you have? Yeah. That would piss you off so bad. If you were Captain America? Yeah. Why would that piss you off?

I would love that. What do you mean? Would you? Yeah. Oh, that means a lot. My friend's Captain Mary. He's not an actor. He wouldn't care.

He's not competing for the role. He's not going for the part. I may or may not. I think I signed with an agency yesterday, by the way. Yeah. I am very much an independent operator, and I hate the suits, but the recruiting calls I got to sign with one particular agency was a bit too big. It just makes sense.

It does make sense to have somebody at the table it is pretty crazy you have too much going on here to be shopping yourself and fielding all these offers let someone else do it for you i got a call from a guy. Very, very, very big-named man who will never be a guest on this show, I don't think, but a guy that I work for every once in a while. It was like a 20-minute conversation telling me that when I sit down with these group of people that I sat down yesterday that I can trust them,

and I sat with these people for three hours, almost four hours yesterday, just kind of game-planning what I want to do with my life or how they can help and everything like that. Because I very much enjoy figuring things out with my friends. I very enjoy, I very much enjoy us figuring things out. You know, like right now we're trying to get Heartland radio syndicated on actual radio and we're dealing with old radio heads telling us that this is a bad idea. It's like, it probably is, but I would like to find out. I don't, I don't really give a fuck what you think your industry is a dying one you're a blockbuster let me go ahead and try and come in there let's figure it out a little bit i enjoy doing that i i enjoy the i didn't have an agent

whenever i was in the nfl i i just enjoy the independent feel but after talking to these guys three four hours i feel like we should do business with them and after getting the calls from people that are like yep you should do business with these people i'm like yeah well you've made a lot of money in your life so i think that's a good idea so i think i signed with caa yesterday which i guess is a pretty large group yeah ever heard of them i i honestly didn't before like a week or two ago i had no idea who they were i had no clue i didn't even i saw their building though so they have a building in hollywood that is like a Death Star. It's impressive.

It is very impressive building. I was out there with Hank, I think Hank and Kendra, and we're in a Jeep that was back when they were married. So I was very, very, very, very vitamin dump. Sitting in the back of this Jeep, I was on some Cali stuff. It was years ago. And we stop at this red light. And I turn to my right. And I see this building.

And then there's this round driveway in front of it. And there's 10 Bentleys parked in front of it. 10 of them. And then this building is this. Look up the CAA building. Death Star building. It's this black glass panel with a hole in the middle of it. And it had millions and millions of dollars of vehicles

sitting in front of it and i'm very vitamin up and i look over and i go what is that the illuminati i said is that the illuminati i want to go in there and i would like to join the illuminati and hank was like no that's an agency or whatever they represent and started listing off names and i'm like holy shit and we like pulled away and I like just kept staring at it. And then we drive away, forgot about it for the rest of my life. Completely forgot about it. That ever happened. Then old buddy flies out the day after I resigned from Barstool.

Basically he's like, hi, I'm blah, blah, blah. Representative from CAA. We are big fans of you. We've had you on our radar for a while. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, CAA? I'm like, what does your building look like? And we pull it up on the internet.

I'm like, that's that fucking building. You guys are saying I'm allowed in that building? They're like, yeah, we want you in that building. I'm like, oh, you should have seen me about three years ago. I wanted in that building as well. So now it's happening. I think it's going to be a very cool thing. Very, very cool thing.

I'm very excited for it. Will it work out? Probably not, I assume. I mean, people are offering me $300 to do TV spots. So it has to only go up from here. I mean, that's only here from there. But I'm excited about the future for all of us. Who else is repped by CAA?

Who? Chris Evans. Oh. Wow. There we go. Do I have a theme song? He's going to need a replacement. Is there a Captain America theme song?

Dun-dun-dun-dun! Dun-dun-dun-dun! Captain America! How you doing? What's going on? What if I was Captain America and the United States champion in WWE? It's a full plate. I mean, we're just mapping it out here.

That seems like that's the right thing to do yeah congratulations listeners of the show I think you're hearing what's about to happen in two years

it's a tough schedule Rock couldn't do it Rock couldn't do WWE and Filmstar I feel yeah but he does

all those movies I'm doing just America Captain America yeah those I mean I guess they just did a run of them

but I doubt Chris Evans had much of a break ever. That's cool with me, man. I'm young, I'm a workhorse, ready to go. I'm ready to go. Podcast, I can just do it in my phone. I got this little thing that just pops out of my phone, like Bill Burr. Just me and my phone.

Me and Bill Burr just sitting in a room, staring at myself talking into the wall. That would be a lot of fun, though, because I do have aspirations of getting into either movie making or being in a movie lot of fun though because I do have aspirations of getting into either movie making or being in a movie because I enjoy when I do. Stand-up comedy is basically like a movie but you're all by yourself on a stage.

You're all by yourself. I'm going to start doing that a little bit more. I'm excited for the future. I'm excited. What an epic phone call though you got that day. Pat, if I didn't have CAA, I would only have two H's. It was absurd. Again, an unknown number calls me while I'm sitting at lunch with my lady.

Pat, what's up? Is this who I think it is? Yeah, what's going on? I'm like, oh, fuck. All right, here we go. Let's sit back. I want you to know blah, blah, blah. And he told me I could trust people. And that's a guy that i've trusted because he's put a lot of trust in me it was a

cool conversation i'm very excited about it also very excited about the fucking rider cup boys very excited about the rider cup it's gonna be a late night tonight yo this is when things the olympics we got them little girls dumping around in gymnastics terrible things are happening to them off the mat in Michigan State. But whenever they're doing their little balance bar and floor routine and the whole thing, I have no clue what's going on. But God damn it, I'm cheering so hard because we're beating the fuck out of the rest of the country. Or the rest of the world.

I absolutely love it. When you watch the World Cup, obviously our team wasn't in it. But when they are, you get a chance to pool for your own country. Whenever you're watching anything where it's USA first, I watched polo one time. Look, in polo, where they're swimming in the most boring sport I've ever seen in my life, but it was USA versus somebody

else, and I loved it. Now is the time for golf, for us to rally behind America to beat the fuck out of Europe, and I am so excited about it. Captain America approves, by the way out of Europe and I am so excited about it. Captain America approves of Ryder Cup happening. I can't wait. Yes, get your Tiger shirts.

Get your Captain Tiger shirts. Get your Captain America Tiger Woods shirts now. They're good shirts. They're very expensive to make. We're only making like I think 99 cents off of each shirt that we sell there. So it's not even for money. We just like the shirt, to be honest with you. Support the cause.

Tonight's going to be a nap night. The Thursday night game is going to be over around midnight, and then they tee off around 2 a.m. What happens? Just a quick two-hour nap, and then Ryder Cup starts. Where's it at? In Oui Oui Paris? Yes.

Oui Oui Paris. French Nationals. So how does this work? They all play around and then the – Friday is four ball, I believe. Okay, so go back to the beginning. What the fuck does that mean? It means so –

Like a scramble, like when I go to the ball fountain? No, it's two U.S. versus two European players, lowest score wins of the four players. So you're playing your own ball. So you're playing your own ball. You're just in a cart with the other American. The Europe's in a cart with another one. And then just whoever has the lowest score out of those four players. So you're playing your own ball. So you're playing your own ball. You're just in a cart with the other American. The Europe's in a cart with another one. And then just whoever has the lowest score out of those four wins.

So even if the one U.S. guy has the highest score out of the four, but the one has the lowest, the U.S. gets a point there. Correct. I wish they got the riding carts together. That would be awesome. They walk off the green, get in the cart.

They got some skinnered blast in, and they just peel out to the next hole. I am a real American hole so there's two sessions of that and then there's alternate shot where one teammate hits the so one teammate hits the drive on all the even holes one teammate hits the drive on all the odds odd holes and you rotate shots which is that's my favorite which is a yeah it's a wild four you gotta really scheme that right because if you got phil mickelson you're like all right we need all the par threes to fall on Phil Mickelson. So Tiger's playing all of the odd or even holes, I can't remember,

because three of the four par threes are even. So he's teeing off on all the even holes. So we want Tiger on par, not with his driver, because his driver goes everywhere. He's an elite iron player. Elite. And then the final day is one-on-one matches, which is fucking, that's really what it comes the boat. The final day is one-on-one matches, which is fucking...

That's really what it comes down to. The first two days mean something, but if all of your team wins their fucking... So this is Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night. Yeah, Friday, Saturday, Sunday in that country, yes. Yes, but it's in America where we live here. Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night. It'll end probably what?

Sunday morning at like 6 a.m.? Well, the good thing is the – so there's a morning round and an afternoon round. The afternoon round tees off at 7.05 Friday morning. So if you want to catch that. That is perfect. Coverage is 2 a.m. to 3 p.m. Yes.

This is like the World Cup again. Yeah. Good for us. And early rumors are that Tiger's going to be paired with – Patrick Reed. Yeah, Reed tomorrow. We hate Patrick Reed, right? He's awesome in the Ryder Cup.

He is so... People sometimes just rise to a different level for the country. Patrick Reed is one of them. This weekend, you don't hate him. He actually goes by Captain America during the Ryder Cup. A lot of people call him that. I think I actually hate him. Yeah, not my Captain America.

I'll reluctantly cheer for him because I love this country. There was a match a few years ago between him and Rory that was insane. How many times has he done well in Ryder Cup? Once? Every single time. Yeah. So it's one time? No, it's the last two times, I think, or maybe three.

Who? I hate this guy, right? This is the guy I hate. You hate him. I have a love-hate with him. Why do I hate him, though? Because he wore red on Sundays. Why do you hate him?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And didn't he bitch about something, too, didn't he? He's always doing something. Oh, it was the Cubs game. Red Sox game. That was it. He upgraded his tickets, but I had to stay next to everybody else.

Right? That's the guy? Yeah. Yeah, I hate him. He wore his jacket everywhere, too, right? Oh, yeah. I think he got married with his jacket on. Really? I don't hate that. No. That might I hate him. He wore his jacket everywhere too, right? Oh, yeah. I think he got married with his jacket on. Really?

I don't hate that. No. That might have been surgery. I don't hate that move. I don't hate that move. I don't like him bitching about paying for the upgrade and then having to basically speak like, oh, I'm with the peasants here, the other golfers.

Yeah, it's because he was in the foul ball seat, so he was worried. So you're going home with a ball? What are we talking about? Take a fishing net in there, snag a ball from an old lady sitting in front of you, and walk it the fuck off. Yeah, I don't think he'd ever been to a baseball game before. Another

reason to hate him. I never played baseball. October 10th, by the way. October 10th, patmcphyshow.com. October 10th, patmcphyshow.com. October 10th, patmcphyshow.com. We have a link up. Pre-order will be $3.33. Day of will be $5. We just made that decision

just now. $3.33 pre-order, though. I'm going on the Rich Eisen show, I think, to promote that. Flying all the way out to Los Angeles. I like Rich a lot. He's a down-to-earth, just normal-ass dude, Colin, doing what he does. He's the way out to Los Angeles. I like Rich a lot. Rich. He's a down to earth, like just normal ass dude calling, doing what he does. He's the voice of the NFL, the NFL network. The NFL has anointed him the voice of the long time supporter of the brand, too, right?

Yep. He he is a big time punters or people to move, but not for the brand punters or people to in the same vein. That's what I meant. Kind of. At least it wasn't kickers or people to strictly your position. I agree with that i agree with that completely because kickers are definitely the lesser of the athletic ones whenever it comes to punters and kickers and

they're the more mental ones i assume i don't want to cause any riff in the brand at all but it is very well known that the punters are light years ahead in athleticism to the kickers. That's just the way it has to be. Because to launch a ball 70 yards off your foot every fucking time, just a whole different animal of athlete. Punters are people too, Rich. See you October 8th. October 8th, I'll be in his studio.

This is my first time ever being invited. He's got a nice studio, too. Yeah, it's my first time ever being invited in his studio. He's keeping me on for an hour, too. I like that. There was another show last week. Come on for 10 being invited in a studio. He's keeping me on for an hour, too. I like that. There was another show that asked me to come on for 10 minutes to fly to their studio

and they had me on for 10 minutes. It's like, what are you going to say? Can I just do nothing all day? Just fly to your place for a 10-minute spot? Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here.

It's been kind of cool, though, to kind of experience these situations. Like, this invite into the studio would have never happened. Like, this is something I never would have thought would happen ever. i gotta make sure that my shoe game's tight it will be i gotta make sure i look thin and i have a spray tan because it's also on tv like these are the moments you don't think about you always like i was always like man i wonder if i'll ever get the opportunity to do insert name

here whenever i'm watching people do it i'm like oh they're doing it all wrong look at them they look bad they know their shoes are going to be on. Have a nice pair of shoes. You start judging the people. Now it's me. I was thinking about going in full body paint, by the way. Suit. Body paint suit.

Just full body suit. Something to think about. Just something to think about. You wouldn't sweat. I always sweat. But I think I'm going to do that if I ever get invited on a late night show. I'm going to do a suit body paint suit. Maybe a late night show. I'm going to do a suit, body paint suit. Maybe Captain America body paint suit.

You start the campaign now. When's he up? They got the Avengers 4 movie. They're doing a couple reshoots now, and then he's done. You got to send a text to him. So you got about a year. I got to send a text to my agent. Excuse me.

I got to send a text to my agent. And whenever I become captain america i won't change i want people to know whenever i become a massive movie star i will not change i will not change you guys think i would change i mean it's you can't not yeah you can't it's not i think i'll probably have a spray tan more if i I had to guess, I'll spray tan myself more often. I'll probably have to stay in shape a little bit more. That's the thing, yeah. You'll get paid to work out like six days a week.

Yeah, they'll inject you with the juice. I'll get that Hollywood juice. Bro, I've been wondering what those fuckers take because I'm doing this keto. I'm busting my ass. I'm working out. And these bottom two abs of mine, I think I was born without them.

I don't think I have them. And then these Hollywood guys. They'll find them for you. They're like 55 years old, and they just got like eight pounds. I'm like, yo, motherfucker, there has to be some metabolic rate slowdown there. I don't know how you have it. Those are the two personality abs. So people that are born with those, they don't have personality.

God replaces it with two lower abs. But you can correct that with science. You can. Chris Pratt went from Parks and Rec, Andy Dwyer, very out of shape. Went like 290. Yeah. To shredded Guardians of the Galaxy. Hollywood's got some stuff out there.

So Mr. Sloan's still alive, too. So it's not like you're going to take stuff and die. Because you just look at... By the way, did you see the new Creed trailer? Yeah. Bro, looks good. I love that Creed. I have not watched all the Rockies.

Oh, you're not a man. I have not watched all the Rockies. Shredded. Michael B. is shredded. Shredded. He's on that Hollywood shit, too. His abs are climbing on top of each other. I know you haven't seen all the Rockies. He's on that Hollywood shit, too. His abs are climbing on top of each other. I know you haven't seen all the Rockies.

You haven't seen Rocky IV, right? I get it. Drago? That's the one you need to see, though, before you see Creed II. I don't. I'm just going to watch Creed II, and I'll get it. It's so good, though. No, they're going to run through the whole thing.

We get it. Russian guy kills that guy. That guy happened. Bing, bang, boom. Now he's fighting for his dad. Got it. It's so good. Drago's still alive, by the way.

And I think him and Sly probably get into a scuffle on the side, if I had to guess. And Sly probably dies. Bye. By the way, you heard Creed, too. Just right there. We just broke it down for you. All boxing movies are the same. I've said it before.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Not true. What are you talking about, bro? Southpaw? They're all underdog stories. Not true. That's all it is. You know who the underdog is.

They come out on top at the end. Not true. Not true. Rocky didn't win half. You know who the underdog is. They come out on top at the end. Not true. Not true. Rocky didn't win like half of his fights. The crush match? I also haven't seen Rocky. Some people forget Rocky was on the 500 record. So you said all boxing movies are the same,

but you haven't seen most of the boxing movies. Correct. Just like you did. You just did with the Rocky movies. Yeah, but I get it. You don't. I think I do. I think I do.

You don't. But we just proved that you don't. Just because I haven't seen them doesn't Yeah, but I get it. You don't. I think I do. You don't. But we just proved that you don't. Just because I haven't seen them doesn't mean I don't get it. Well, you said that the underdog comes out on top. And Rocky, they just said to you, a counterpoint that is completely contradictory to your statement. He doesn't win. No. By the way, in my head, he did win every single time.

But I would never come out and just say everything's the same. He ended up poor and he can't talk right. You've got to pick and choose, bro. You've got to pick and choose what shots you take whenever you have no clue what's going on. I've always had that take. I'm sticking with it. I respect that. You guys have heard me talk

about movement. You know those two college dropouts that started their own watch company? This company has grown like crazy. Loco, some would say. Captain America doesn't speak Spanish, by the way. Nope. I think he should.

I think he does speak a little bit. I was about to say, maybe that's something I bring to the characters and I speak a little Spanish. Bilingual Captain America. Yeah, bilingual Captain America. He definitely speaks German, for sure. Que pasa, primo? Capitan. Americano. How do you feel about nazis i don't like them good well captain america ended world war ii so

you could did i really oh yeah i should probably watch that i should probably watch it you're better off not watching it and having just a blank slate start with it. Guys, consider me the piece of paper before Bob Ross starts his shit. Paint me however you'd like to see me as your next Captain America producer, director, guy. Would be pretty cool. I think I'm probably too old, huh? Too old? You're younger than Chris Evans. Yeah.

He's probably, what, 35, 36? On it. I don't think I should be putting this in my brain, though, because this is looking to be a big disappointment. Because in my head, I am Captain America already. He's 37. After our conversation, it's been 25 minutes since this has been brought up. In my head, I'm already Captain America.

I'm like, yeah, this is going to happen. Did you give up on the other guy? Yeah, Booster Gold, yeah, we gave up. There's too many people we got to okay through. Yeah. There's too many. Well, there shouldn't be any this time. And when you can be Captain America.

Why be Booster Gold? Yeah, why be Booster Gold when you can be Captain America. Might be Booster Gold. Yeah, might be Booster Gold when you can be Captain America. Is Captain America with Jorts? No. Maybe in his spare time he could. Not yet. Chris Evans isn't even American, right? Yeah, he is.

He's from Boston. Who's the guy from Australia that looks like him? Chris Hemsworth. Hemsworth, yeah. They kind of look alike, don't they? A little bit. I thought they were brothers. They're not brothers. Yeah, youworth. They kind of look alike, don't they? A little bit. I thought they were brothers. They're not brothers.

Yeah, you did. You thought they were brothers in Infinity War. I watched that Infinity War. I thought they were brothers. Hemsworth brothers are a thing. They are a thing. Okay, good. Liam.

Liam. Married to Miley Cyrus, right? Or engaged? Yeah. No, she's with Schwarzenegger's kid. No. They used to be, I think. She's been on and off with Little Hemsworth for a while.

Huh. What about Noah? Noah Cyrus. That's such a shame. Jigsaw. She had $12,000 worth of tears after she broke up. This company has grown like crazy. And now with almost 2 million watches sold in 160 countries,

they continue to revolutionize fashion on the belief that style should not break the bank. True. Keep the bank whole. Yes. Still while bringing in the style. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if you've checked the site out lately.

I have. I know Diggs has. I have as well. Big watch guy. But this is for the listeners. But they have doubled the number of watch styles. Doubled. Doubled.

It's almost 200% of what they had last time. Almost. Did I say that right, by the way? I feel like every time I give a percentage, I'm not sure if I'm saying it right. Because it's like, it's almost 100% of what they had. Yeah, because is it 100% more, right? Yeah.

It would be 100% more, but 200% of what they... It's all in the phrasing. That's why I don't think I ever get those numbers right. I'm not a math guy. That's why I always use fractions instead. No, don't do that. So this is four seconds, four halves? Two ones.

Four halves worth of goods. Mm-hmm. Four halves worth of watches. You're not going to reduce that fraction? Are you fucking psycho? You got a four halves fraction? Anyways, they're still expanding. They could be five halves soon.

Movement has come far from being crowd funny kids working out of a living room. In the past year, they've not only introduced a ton of new watch collections for both men and women, but also expanded to sunglasses and fashion forward bracelets for her. For her.

One-stop shop to make everybody in your life happy. I absolutely love that. Movement watches are all about looking good and keeping it simple. Movement watches don't tell you how many steps you've taken or how to blow your wrist up with text messages. No. It tells time and is looking good doing it. Movement watches start at just $95. Wow.

Somebody's like, $95? That is insane because comparable watches in department stores, $400 to $500. Easy. Quick fraction, Diggs. How much are you saving? A good 400%, Pat. Movement figured out that by selling online, they were able to cut out the middleman in retail market,

providing the best possible price. Classic design, quality construction, and styled minimalism. Minimalism. Heard of it. Cut out all the bullshit. Yeah. I don't need all the bullshit. I don't need all the bullshit.

That's the scissors cutting out the bullshit. By the way- Cut it out. Oh, that guy was a legend. He also did that moose impersonation. Bullwinkle? There it is, that one. Oh, no, that was Blue's Clues.

That guy died, right? Heroin? Steve? No. He's thriving. He's kicking. Steve from Blue's Clues still alive? I'm sure he went to rehab and did some weird shit, but.

Never would have guessed. He's got some stories. A doll pair of scissors, by the way. Very frustrating. I tried to cut the... Lefty scissors, frustrating. Why do they exist? Why aren't they both just both?

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FEE. Join the movement. Great watches for him and her ever and the sunglasses, by the way. Sunglasses are incredible. Absolutely incredible. The best. Chris Conti's placed on ir his last play of possibly his career is one of the worst ones in history that's a tough way to go out apparently he was playing the game with uh the torn pcl or whatever this is just what zane gonzalez

said to him about his groin he could have been injured let's say he's hurt he wasn't injured though if you put him on the field he's hurt injured. But that's a tough way to go out. It sucks. I hate to see that people get hurt that way. But, boy, that's got to feel good for Vance. That's a tough way to go. Vance needed that. It's been a tough struggle for him.

He's been hurt, too. I don't want injuries. He needed that. Then him coming in that postgame press conference just cutting a promo. It's a very, guys. Yeah. It won't come at me low. It won't come at me high. It won't come at me high.

I don't think so. Good for him. Baker Mayfield, Josh Rosen both getting their first NFL starts this weekend. I think Baker Mayfield wins. I think Josh Rosen loses. That's what I think. Yeah. Just strictly because I think the team around Baker is good.

I think Miles Garrett is good. So this is something I was thinking about. We were talking about this earlier. Baker's in a situation where it looks like he's going to be legitimate. It looks like he's going to be a guy. Eventually, down the road, you're going to have to pay a ton of money to. If you're the Browns, do you dip into free agency, or do you keep building through the draft

and try and capitalize on the three-year window you have, three- or four-year window you have? That's the thing we were talking about earlier. Hugh Jackson wouldn't even say Baker was a starter after that fucking return. Let's assume Hugh's not going to be there for the next three or four years. Hugh said on Hard Knocks, I know I'm going to win here. Let's assume Hugh's not going to be there for the next three to four years. Hugh said on Hard Knocks, I know I'm going to win here.

That's interesting. That dude's fucked up. I don't know. Because the draft is risky. You don't know if you're going to hit or not. Free agency is probably the way to go if you're going to do it like the way Pat was talking about earlier. I like free agency a lot. I've always been a big fan of free agency.

But then the Rams also hit big in the draft with Gur girly and with aaron donald you're gonna have picks in draft though you're gonna have picks in the draft you just have to hit on your picks yeah you have on let's say what four out of or three out of seven of your picks if you have just the standard amount of picks you have to hit on but But the free agent, I never understood the people. Now granted, I'm not running a team either. I don't even have a fantasy football team because I don't have enough time. I've never understood the people that aren't willing

to trade for a guarantee to risk. They're risking like a third rounder or a second rounder, which is just a roll of the dice, to bring in a guaranteed surefire this guy has done this. I never understood it personally and i think it's all because of numbers and how much that vet cost versus the rookie and all that shit but if you're the browns and you want to really make a statement because you got this cheap quarterback who seems to be good i think you got to make a play in free agency i agree with

the free agency free agency thing um but there are like a few franchises who are notably known for not bringing in any free agents that have been good for like a long time like the like the packers and steelers notably don't bring in steel or don't bring in free agents ever joe hayden got cut i guess they bring him in he's a yeah you gotta find the right ones yeah but also um those quarterbacks that they drafted are a pretty big deal right there's the there's the other side there's the other recipe right there that's the tom brady ben roethlisberger aaron rogers really fucking good they got to win the games they got to be able to win games by themselves that's what they have to do you have

to and i think the gms will look at the quarterback and say can this motherfucker win the game all by himself because that's what it's going to be if we pay him can this dude win the game by himself and they did that with russell Wilson, and I think that was a mistake. Well, then those teams also have to get lucky in the draft, too. AB was a sixth round. Le'Veon was a second round. Those teams... Drafting

is huge as well. Lev Bell, bro. He's living his best life. He's a terrible rapper. He's fucking terrible. It's too much auto-tune. He uses way too much auto-tune. That's a new thing, bro.

Mumble rap. No, not this much. That's a new thing, dog. Every fan base outside of Pittsburgh is like, yeah, we'll listen to that every day. Come be a running back for us. This world is so full of grief So I gotta get what I need She giving me head and a limb So I gotta slow down my speed a running back for us. Awesome guy. Oh.

Of course. Huh. Huh. Huh. Yeah. Get out. Huh? Huh? Yeah! You know it. Just a little less audio. My actual voice. Right there in the safe.

Right there in the safe. He's got M's in the safe? In the bank. Apparently not enough. My Tommies be smoking. My Tommies be smoking. My Tommies be smoking. Right there in the safe. It's right there. Oh, he's got abs in the safe? In the back. Apparently not enough. Let's homies, we smoke.

Oh. Hey. Hey. Not this week. Even from distance they watch They tryna figure it out I made a million a week I know that's not as unique All of my girls is petite I got a build on my team They like having sex on the beach Right on the beach I'm a B I was just talking I know they be talking about me I've never done. It's terrible.

I've never done it, but I don't even like laying on the beach. He probably meant like on the jet skis. No, no, he's not on the jet skis. Don't fucking put words in his speech. You're the problem with media. What? Yeah, you. You take this platform and take words and make them up on your own.

It's fucked up, dude. It's unbelievable. What are you, an anonymous source now? I'm ready. Hater. Hater. Well, I might not even take that two-hour nap in between in the Ryder Cup and the game. I might just listen to Wheezy for two hours in between.

Is that coming out? Tonight. When's his birthday? Tomorrow. Wicking me, bitch. I think Le'Veon Bell on the complete flip side, complete flip side,

I think he's made enough money, he's happy and he just wants to live with his boys. I think that is the case. I honestly think that is the case. I think he has enough money. He rented a yacht the other day that was bigger than anything I've ever seen. It's a yacht, monster yacht. He's down in Miami. He's fat and happy. He rented a yacht the other day that was bigger than anything I've ever seen. It's a yacht, monster yacht.

He's down in Miami. He's fat and happy. He's just rapping, having a good old time. He's got, what, 20-some million probably in the bank at some point. At least. That's before taxes, so like 15, let's go 12, maybe $12 million. You can live off $12 million for a long time. Long time, long time, long time.

His agent came out last week and said he misses playing football. I miss watching him play football. He's so goddamn good. He's so goddamn good. He's so goddamn good. I don't think he's going to come back to the Steelers, though. I don't think that's happening. I think there's a good chance he's not coming back to the Steelers. Yeah, it looks that way.

It does look like. Well, he doesn't. How does he do an album sales? How many streams does that have? Maybe he's all right. Todd, I don't think good. I don't think good. The only way musicians make money is by touring, and I don't think he can tour. I don't think he can all right. Todd, I don't think good. I don't think good. The only way musicians make money is by touring,

and I don't think he can tour. I don't think he can tour right now. That song's only got 59,000 streams. It's not bad. It's more than zero. It's a good start. It's a good start. I knew a rapper from our high school who was getting 1,200,

and he was really feeling himself. He had groupies, the whole thing. Old Mac. Old Will Mac. Oh, Jesus. What happened to him? He was part of Nick's Nitrous Rush. Yeah, Nick was in a car club with that guy.

He headed the car club. I was not a part of it. RIP, see that Japan has 128,000. You doubled up. Oh! Kaji, maybe I hold out from this podcast. I'm going to text my agents. That's such a wild thing to say, by the way.

I can't wait to just drop that in. Remember we were talking to somebody down at WWE, and they were like, we'll have my attorney, blah, blah, blah. And I stopped the whole conversation. I was like, yo, that was some big swinging dick. My attorney will do this. That was some big swinging dick move you just did. Now I'm going to start doing that to dick. My attorney will do this. That was some big swinging dick move you just did. Now I'm going to start doing that to everybody.

There was a funny moment yesterday before they left. They were talking to us, and they were like, does anyone need our cards? And I was like, ha, ha, ha. You guys are familiar with this, huh? I'm going to have to talk to my agent. I can't wait to just say it to a delivery guy. Just throw it around.

Thanks for the food. Oh, no problem. Can I take a look around? You're going to have to talk to my agent. Everybody does get nosy when they drop shit off here. Everybody gets a little nosy. What is this? Well, you have a fantasy factory, so I completely understand it.

But everybody just feels like it's a mall. Every pizza delivery guy, I'll go sit on the table for you. No, we're good. I always tell them it's an animal testing facility. Now get the fuck out. You ever see Rampage? That's what we do up on top there. We should start wearing surgical masks to the door.

Yeah, yeah, you should get the fuck out of here. When you're in an airport, and I know it's like Chinese culture to do this, but every time I fly to Orlando, it's the international airport, so there's a lot of Chinese people there. When they wear their masks, it freaks me the fuck out. Oh, it's because of SARS, right?

I don't know what it's... It's because of all diseases. I want to know what I'm getting that they are refusing to get. And they're sitting right next to me breathing the same air that i'm breathing and they have that mask on and i'm just looking at them and i don't i want to i know they can't speak english but i want to ask them like what are we worried about right like what am i not worrying about that you are worrying about what are we doing airplanes are tin cans of disease of just circulating diseased air i know and when you get on a plane with 40 to 50 people all wearing those masks, it freaks me the fuck out.

I actually think getting out of China, there's so much pure oxygen outside of it that they can't handle it. They get too high, so they just keep that mask, and there's a little bit of smog in there. Wait, you mean they're not all doctors? You're so stupid We got a conversation with a guy That I don't think does a lot of these I cannot wait to chat with him Before we get to our incredible guest

Big name guest by the way Monster get here Slid in a DM DM was received well Another one came back This is what we like to call A big fish. Handsome fish, too.

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I met him for the first time at the ESPN College Football Awards whenever I was nominated for the Ray Guy Award. Ray Guy got it wrong, didn't give me the award, but the weekend was a blast. A true gentleman, a man's man, ladies and gentlemen, Kirk Herbstreit. What's up, big man? How you doing? I'm excellent. How are you, Kirk? Your life is awesome. It's up, big man? How you doing? I'm excellent. How are you, Kirk? Your life is awesome.

It's so fun to watch you. Well, I appreciate it. I enjoy watching you as well. I'm fortunate. I remember you actually playing in college. I know you had a brilliant NFL career, but you also obviously got it done very well in the good old days back in Morgantown, West Virginia.

You guys were always good teams back then. We had a lot of fun. Pat and Steve Slate and I rode their coattails to a lot of wins. I walked out of there with an all-time point score leader. And then I just kind of – And, you know, if you think about it, man, Rich Rod was – I mean, I don't know if you're a fan or not, but he was the head of the game with this whole up-tempo

and wearing the different wristbands and being a crazy guy on the sideline. And he was one of the first guys to really make that style of offense go. And, you know, he did it, you know, with smaller schools and then as an offensive coordinator at Clemson. And then, of course, when he had Pat White and Steve Slayton, I mean, that was about as good as it gets. But I think a lot of people started to copy that offense and what they were doing,

and now we see it all over the country every week. I think he would tell you that too, by the way. Oh, I know he would. Kirk, I want to dig into you a little bit. So you were Ohio State starting quarterback your senior year. Your dad was also Ohio State Buckeye captain. So when you become 1996, you started doing this college game day thing, I believe.

How hard is it to keep the bias out of it for being an Ohio State? Because I know the Ohio State cult is a strong one. How hard is it for you week in and week out to do that? You know, man, it's weird for me because I, I've never really had a problem with that. I, I just, from day one, um, you know how you put like, as I'm talking to you, I just took a break from getting ready for the weekend and you put so much time into your preparation that when you call the game, you just see two teams, and you talk about the teams. And last year, as a classic example, we got down to the Final Four,

and who should be the Final Four? And there was all the talk about it looks like it might come down to Ohio State and Alabama. And Alabama didn't even go to the SEC Championship game. They lost to Auburn. How in the heck did they go in? And Ohio State just won the Big Ten championship against Wisconsin. And they have to ask us, which is always the tough spot,

who should be the four teams? And the easy thing to say, being a former Ohio State guy, as you said, and captain, and my dad was a captain, my wife is a cheerleader at Ohio State, is to say Ohio State. And I've never really looked at it that way. If it's Ohio State, then I would say it's Ohio State. And if it's not, based on what I think, then in that case, I said it was Alabama. I thought Alabama had kind of hit some skids early with some injuries and then got better and better and better, despite not even making it to Atlanta. I thought they were a better team between Obama and Ohio State.

And so I said Alabama. And so I don't know why it's not hard for me. I love Ohio State. When I'm not on the air, my kids are brainwashed Buckeyes. We love the Buckeyes. But man, when I'm on the air, I just talk about objectively whatever I think. That's because you're a professional, Kirk. Now, you just mentioned the Final Four or whatever, the playoff system.

There for so long, the world, BCS, ESPN, even you guys on TV were talking about how a playoff would ruin college football. Now we're at a four-team playoff, and now everybody wants more teams into the playoff. Everybody wants more. How does the college football world kind of solve this problem of their fans wanting more and more and more and more at all times? Well, you know, you were a player and I think if you talk to the players

even during the BCS era, most of them would say that they would have wanted some kind of playoff to be able to kind of find out who the best teams really were. The players wanted to play the games. And the kind of find out who the best teams really were. The players wanted to play the games. And the kind of politics prevented that from happening. And then finally it just became so obvious that they had to do something

that we finally got a 14 playoff. And you're right. I'm a guy that I love regular season college football, like end of August all the way to early December. I'm all in every week I'm an NFL fan but I really don't get that way for the NFL until like week 13 week 14 you start seeing the teams this team needs to win their last two you know maybe they win the tiebreaker that kind of thing but the urgency doesn't really hit me for the NFL until like November and December.

And in college football, it's the entire season. And I've always been big on if we go to a playoff, I don't want college football to become college basketball. And I'm a diehard college basketball fan, but I really don't care until March Madness. Duke can beat North Carolina, whatever. They're going to drop one spot in the rankings, doesn't even matter, until we get to the tournament. And I didn't want college football to become like that,

and I still don't. So with that being said, I've always thought four would be plenty. But now after watching it for four years, I feel like maybe six or if you wanted to go to eight, as long as we can hold on to the regular season and still being important and still being relevant then uh then i'm okay with expanding it to six or possibly eight teams six i think would be ideal but uh if you went to eight you know i don't i don't think we'd lose the regular season and

and the importance of it i hope that makes sense yeah it absolutely does i think it makes a lot of sense and i honestly i never really thought about it that way as college basketball doesn't really matter until March Madness in the conference tournament. Sometimes you'll see a team make a run, but the regular season means absolutely nothing. But with that being said, I believe college football, the reason why the anticipation is high all year is because of the atmospheres, the environments that you get thrusted into in the middle of college football is a much different ballgame than the NFL. What's your favorite environment you got to experience?

That kind of went like, it made you go like, oh, shit, I did not expect this place to be like this, if that makes sense. You know, an oh, shit moment would be Missouri. You never, like I just said, Missouri, and you're like, what? But when Chase Daniel was at Missouri, I'm telling you, um and you never like i just said missouri and you're like what but when chase when chase daniel was at missouri i'm telling you that that really surprised me just the campus itself and just the feel of it i i wasn't expecting that but my crazy just i love going their place is actually where i'm going this weekend uh penn, when it's a whiteout,

and they're ranked in the top five or top ten in the country, and they're playing an opponent that's in the top five or top ten, I will challenge anybody, anywhere, other than maybe the Premier League over in Europe, to find a better sports atmosphere than what you'll see this weekend when Ohio State goes into Penn State. It's as good as there is, not just in college football, but in sports. See, there's your Ohio State bias right there. What?

Not Ohio State. Not Ohio State. It's because Ohio State's there. 9 a.m. in the morning. Those college kids are lit back there do you guys ever just take a moment look around and be like you know what i hope my kids never go to college oh my gosh um yeah they a lot of times man they spend the night in tents um out around the set so they get a good spot to be on tv and um yeah they're there i i maybe when i was younger i might might have kind of looked around and looked

at you know how crazy everybody was and at this point lee corso told me a long time ago he's 82 or 83 years old and he told me when i first started, whatever you do, don't look back. Don't look back. Whether they're saying good things or bad things, just keep looking forward. But before we come on the air, you know, everybody's yelling and holding up signs and acting crazy. And, you know, we love being involved with the crowd as much as we can.

I mean, we have great fans. And honestly, I'm not just saying this. Our crowd at our show is almost like another person sitting at the set. I've seen other studios try to mimic what we're fortunate to have on College Game Day, and it's just different. It feels almost like made-for-TV kind of crowd. Our crowd is real and as authentic as you can hope for everywhere we go and so yeah we we uh we have a good time with them but yeah they're

a lot of them are hammered without a doubt especially the ones that spend the night there the wwe back in the day used to have signs up everywhere every single arena they went in there was signs and then obviously there's some people that ruin it right there's some people that put up terrible signs do you guys have somebody who's there just strictly looking for bad signs and then getting rid of them like the wwe has yeah i mean we have guys that try to look for things that that are above and beyond crazy that shouldn't probably be on tv but also part of what we like to do is keeping some of those signs and some of the edgy signs that people might think that we're offended

by and let people know we're not. It's okay. If you want to put something out there that, you know, if you're cussing or saying something like that, they'll probably take it down. But if you're trying to do something and you think it's a good one, you're probably going to see our security people not take it down. Most people have kind of figured it out. So they'll put like go lions on one side. And then as soon as we go on the air, they kind of flip the sign and it says whatever it is that they want to say. So there's just so many signs. I'm talking thousands of signs. So it's very hard, I think, for our guys to point out all the different signs that are offensive to possibly the viewers at home.

Describe Lee Corso as a human, because as somebody that watches it, I'm worried he's going to die up there. And he is an electric human being who, it sounds like you are very good friends with what is it like to work with lee corso week in and week out for all these years as just a human who's 80 plus years old still doing live tv yeah first i'll tell you this i i have been with him for 23 years and um he's not just 80, 82 or 83 years old.

You know, the thing to remember when you watch him is the guy had a stroke about, let's say, eight or nine years ago. And when he had the stroke, I don't know if you guys know of anybody relative or friends or anybody that's ever had a stroke, but sometimes it affects your speech. And in his case, it did. Like he could barely speak after he had his stroke. And so it happened in the spring. So he had all summer and early part of the fall to try to get ready to go on TV to be able to try to talk. And he was in all kinds of speech therapy.

He worked his way through it. And it's still, if you ever watch our show, you can still see sometimes it affects him. People think, you know, take shots. And I say, oh, look at how he's talking. it affects him. People think, you know, take shots and now he's so old, look at how he's talking. But honestly, if you hung out with Lee, you would swear he's 82, but he's playing like 60. Like he is unbelievable as far as if he didn't have a stroke, the shape he is in, you know, he was walking around airports, carrying his own bag. I mean, think about your grandparents or people you know that are in their mid-70s get up to be the latter part of the 70s, early 80s. I mean, it's incredible to see what he does

and how he's able to kind of maintain himself with all the travel that we do and the work that we put in. But at the end of the day, man, he's one of the funniest guys. You would love him. You and him, you guys, you should have him on your show because you would absolutely love his energy, his personality, and he's the king, man. I mean, in his prime, there was nobody better at zingers

and impromptu thoughts and taking shots at people. I mean, he's legendary, you know, and one of the best, to me, one of the best entertainers in television we've ever had. That's beautiful. And speaking of your travel, you just mentioned there, you'll do game day in the morning, and then you're calling a game on the other side of the country. What is your weekly schedule?

Do you take Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and just kind of relax to kind of gear up for the weekend what is the kirk so i have i have four boys and three of them uh i live in nashville and three of them play high school football uh two i have two of their seniors and one of the sophomore and so i told espn for for years when my boys were playing like sixth grade seventh grade eighth grade i said guys if they ever get to a point where they're actually playing on Friday night, it's going to be hard for me not to be there. So I just want to plant that seed now three or four years out.

And sure enough, around their junior years, they started to play. And so what I do is I typically prepare, you know, Sunday and Monday is just kind of like I watch your stuff a lot of times on Sundays because I need a good laugh. Honestly, I love what you do with that stuff. I appreciate it. It gives a totally different way of watching NFL games. So I kind of hang out. I'm kind of in and out of NFL games. And then Monday is prep day, phone calls, all that.

And then do the same thing Tuesday, Wednesday. And then Thursday I leave and go to wherever I'm going to call the game. And I'll go there, go to practice, hang out there with the coaches and players, go Friday meetings with college game day. We tape two or three segments for sports center and different things. And then usually around 3 o'clock, I'll fly back to Nashville, and I'll go to my boys' game on Friday night. And then as soon as their game's over, I'll fly back to wherever game day is.

And then I'll do game day in the morning. And then sometimes I'll stay if game day and the game I'm calling are in the same location. But many times after game day, I'll go quickly to an FBO and I'll have to fly to wherever the Saturday night game is and then just continue to repeat that week after week. You're a rock star. Dad of the year, Kirk. Dad of the year.

You don't look tired at all on Saturday morning. You've got to be dead. You've got to be dead. You've got to be dead. No, I'll tell you, when you have boys, if you have boys when they get older and they're playing on Friday nights, it's just once in a lifetime. It's different because they're in weeks where I can't. Like last week, we were in Eugene, Oregon, and I can't get all the way back.

So luckily, their school has a TV station where it allows you to at least watch the game online. But it's different from actually being there. If your kids have a big moment and you're not there, it's like, that sucks. I wish I would have been there. So it's a big sacrifice. But I don't know. I just feel like I've got to be there. So I'll do whatever it takes to be there.

Well, the college football world and the fans everywhere appreciate you, man. Your brain is an incredible one. You're so smooth at calling games. You're so smooth. You have like your third or fourth pairing in the booth right now with you. How do you get so well adjusted to the guy that you're calling games with? Because it's something that you are very good at. After watching, and I know that this is somebody you work with,

so I can't say it, but watching a football game that happens on the nights of Mondays, it's tough to hear people call those games. So listening to you transition with new color guys, or play-by-play guys is absolutely incredible. Do you have somebody you like in there the most, or how does that work? Do you guys hang out and have beers together? What is that? Yeah, honestly, and I think you'll see this as you continue to do different broadcasting.

To me, I'm a big advocate of finding time to hang out. So if, if, you know, if in my case, I worked with Mike Tirico, who I consider, you know, one of the best in the business and that's who I broke in with. And I worked with Brent Musburger and Chris Fowler. I'm real big on building a natural chemistry or natural rapport with the guy that you're not faking it when you're on TV, but you can just kind of hang and, uh, you know, have a few beers on a Friday night or Thursday night or whatever you're doing, go and have a nice meal and, and just kind of get to know the person over time and starting to build a very natural rapport like you would with, with anybody, you know, you might become friends with. And I, and I really think that when, if you can with anybody, you know, that you might become friends with. And I really think that if you can do that, it has a way of transitioning on TV where you're not trying to be friendly with each other.

You just kind of, because of that time you spent together, you kind of naturally get there. So that's my theory anyway, and I think if you can do that. Tough thing is if you're working with somebody and you can't you can't create that then i think you're you're on tv and you're trying to portray that hey we get along and i think it's a lot tougher job if if you're in that position as opposed to just hanging out like like you know like you and i right now just sitting here talking about sports and having a good time. All right, I know you've got to go. You're a very busy man.

Who's going to win the national championship? I mean, Alabama right now with Tua's playing like a video game. They're unstoppable. They've got a $15 million dining hall, Kirk. I mean, they are unstoppable. They're freaks. I mean, they're just at a different level. And honestly, I mean, Tua takes them to a whole different level.

Before the season started, I said, you know, this is about to be the next two years. And he's already won, I don't know how many championships, five or whatever. It's about to be his two best teams he's ever had in 18 and 19 because they're no longer going to beat you in defense and field position and special teams and, you know, running the football and kind of almost playing not to lose at the quarterback position, managing the game.

Now they're going to be able to just dice you up with the quarterback. And sure enough, that's where they look like they're headed, not just this year, but in case you and I don't have a chance to talk for next year, put me down for Alabama again. Hey, Kirk, I appreciate it. You know that Tua guy looks a lot like Pat White. If you watch him play, he looks a lot. He and Pat White look eerily similar to each other whenever they're playing.

It's awesome to watch, and you're awesome to watch on TV in the morning, at night. Everything you're doing for your family is incredible. Ladies and gentlemen, hey, don't be pushing for that goddamn NCAA game to come back so you can have another gig. Come on, man. We got to get that back. I miss that game. I saw you pushing that.

I'll do it for free. I just wanted to come back. I miss playing that game. We used to put in so many hours. Did you play that when you were in college? No, I don't play video games Kirk I play real life I ain't a nerd Kirk I'm joking yes

everybody played that game it was awesome it was absolutely beautiful O'Bannon or whatever kind of sent that all down the sink ruined it yeah financial fair anyways ladies and gentlemen the face and voice of college football thank you so much for joining us, Kirk.

You're the man. Yeah, man. Great talking to you. You too. Kirk Herbstreit. What a hero. Thank you, boss. You got it, bud.

Anytime. Keep up your great work. What an awesome man. Awesome. So good. That's a monster gift, by the way. Kirk Herbstreit is a monster in the media world in the football world and i was looking into him he does a lot of philanthropical stuff too he he's he's

that guy he really is that guy his lifestyle too flying to a place flying back to watch his kids and flying back and then potentially flying somewhere else good for kirk out there grinding and he's it pays off by the way he's everywhere and he should be he's the guy that you want representing something and that's what he's doing he's the guy and he gets to call the inaugural they knew bull so good for him what is it called they knew bull 2018 yeah 2018 they knew bull who was that uh that's ohio state and penn state that's jopan ervin meyer as tony domato said in a classic film any given sunday Who is that? That's Ohio State and Penn State. That's Joe Pond, Irvin Meyer. As Tony D'Amato said in the classic film Any Given Sunday,

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