The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 009 - Gary Vee, AQ Shipley, & Jon Gruden

Episode Date: October 2, 2018

On today's show, Pat breaks down everything that happened in week 4 in the NFL including Earl Thomas flipping off the Seahawks' sideline, Patrick Mahomes being a mix between Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, and Big Ben, Adam Vinatieri breaking another big record, Jon Gruden joins to bask in the glory of his first victory, and the news that Leveon Bell may be coming back soon. Pat also breaks down his trip to New York yesterday, and welcomes Gary Vee to chat about how to market the greatest documentary ever (Pat McAfee: Professional Baseball Player available for preorder Oct. 7 on PatMcAfeeShow.com) (49:44-53:50). Later, Arizona Cardinals center and friend of the show, AQ Shipley, chats with the guys about Penn State and Ohio State, his thoughts on Josh Rosen, players holding out, what the cut process is like in the NFL, and how his rehab is going (1:23:30-1:46:15). Today's a good one. Come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello balls deep in the NFL season So excited to chit chat about the Sunday And Monday, this weekend's games were incredible. Absolutely loved everything I seen. We had a player flipping off his own team. That is magical. We had an almighty situation last night on Monday Night

Football. Patrick Mahomes, this dude might be. He might be. He might be the next one. He's Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers mixed together. With a bigger body who's like Roethlisberger-like almost. You put Roethlisberger with Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre together. And a Muppet.

And his voice is tough. And his voice is tough. But then you have his dad. I didn't know he was in the majors for like 10 years or something like that as a pitcher until last night. You've got a dad. You've got the lineal there, the generational strength. And also, having a father who's a professional athlete teaches you a lot of things about how to handle a lot of situations that a lot of guys can't do. I had no idea what I was getting into whenever I became a professional athlete.

No clue what happens whenever you get dumped a few hundred thousand dollars in your bank account and then you're supposed to just act like you've been there before. I haven't. So I'm going to go ahead and spend it all. It's a different animal whenever you have a dad who's been a professional athlete and kind of teach you the way about maybe on the road, these types of things. Patrick Mahomes seems like he's the one because he struggled a little bit early last night. And everybody was like, well, this Denver Broncos stadium is tough to play in,

blah, blah, blah. People forget the reason why Patrick Mahomes possibly has the job that he has and the reason why Alex Smith was shipped out of Kansas City. By the way, Kansas City is both in Missouri and Kansas. Did you know that? Yeah. I didn't know that. I thought there was one in Missouri, one in Kansas.

They're actually the same city. Oh, that's what I thought, too. I didn't know. I thought what you thought. Yeah, me, too. What is it, right on the border? Yeah, it's right on the border. Well, that's some bullshit.

So the right half of the city is in Missouri. The left half of the city is in Kansas. Well, that had to be quite a conversation. No, no, that's our fucking city. Just make the line go around. Yeah, Mr. Kansas was like, no, no, no, that's our fucking city. Mr. Missouri was like, we're here first, motherfucker. We settled a lot earlier than you did. That's our city. No, no, no, no, that's our fucking city. Mr. Missouri was like, we're here first, motherfucker. We settled a lot earlier than you did.

That's our city. No, no, no. You know what? We'll just split it. I wonder if the taxes are the same on both sides. That's a great question. It can't be, right? Because it's state tax.

It's state tax. Yeah, but I would assume that they have very similar laws there in that area. Have to. Have to. Like the casinos. If you go to the east side of the city over there, they got table games. Over here, just slots. You know what I mean?

It's like old East and West Berlin. Yeah. They have to put a wall up. One legalizes marijuana, one doesn't. That's going to move. Oh my God. It's just going to become like, this is the red side of the city. This is the blue side of the city. Over here on the left, we got no guns. Okay. Incredible taxes

and free marijuana. On this side though, low taxes, all the guns okay incredible taxes and free marijuana on this side though low taxes all the guns you can get no marijuana you figure out which side you want to be on that would be an interesting how do you think the football players get taxed too so that's what i was saying because in my head i was thinking they have to where the stadium is well i assume the stadiums i don't know where arrowhead is now that i think about i have no fucking idea and i don't know where theirhead is. Now that I think about it, I have no fucking idea. And I don't know where their practice facility is. What if their practice facility is in Kansas, in the stadiums in Missouri? Where do you live?

I don't know where you live. That is a... Last night was Sam and I were watching that game, and I Googled it, because she was confused, too. And I was... She was like, you played in Kansas City? Where were you? Right? She said, was that in Kansas or Missouri?

And I was like, I think it was in Missouri. Yep, Arrowhead is in Missouri. Okay, I feel good about that because I got some barbecue. And it was in Missouri, I think, whenever I got the barbecue. But then you're like, well, Kansas City, it's in Kansas too, I feel like. I feel like there was a Kansas around. And then you find out, bang, right on both. Brackett's facility, also Missouri.

Oh, soansas really lost out on this whole thing should have lost should have settled a little bit earlier over there in missouri but i think patrick mahomes the reason why he is the guy he is and the reason why he is the chiefs quarterback now is because last year if you do recall the chiefs were already in the playoffs they were playing the denver broncos and they decided to arrest Alex Smith. So they arrest Alex Smith. Go ahead. Hey, you know what? Great work this year. Great, incredible work. We're going to save you for the playoffs. We're already

in. We don't want you to get hurt here in Denver. Mile high. Who knows what's going to happen? Don't need any of that marijuana getting into those lungs before we get into the playoffs while you're playing. So they have Patrick Mahomes play that week. One week to prepare. One week to be an NFL quarterback because I guess the way Andy Reid runs his practice

is the backup quarterback doesn't get a lot of reps. I guess it's just a starter. By the way, a lot of people handle operations that way. When Peyton Manning was a quarterback, the backup never got a rep, not a single one. They were just there to applaud, basically, and say, yeah, good work, good throw. And they even had a practice guy, me,

running the defensive rep. So it was a very interesting thing. Patrick Mahomes wins that game in Denver last year. Alex Smith back in. They lose in the playoffs. Andy Reid sitting there in the offseason, probably on a beach somewhere. Probably got a donut or two, maybe a pizza, maybe some barbecue ribs there from Missouri or Kansas, having a good time.

Maybe a nice cold beer. I assume it's an IPA. He looks like a guy that might drink IPA. Or it's a hard Budweiser. Maybe a diesel. Andy Reid's sitting there with a diesel. He's drinking it down. He goes, you know what? Fuck it. Let's get rid of the boring-ass Alex Smith. I want Patrick Mahomes, who had one week to beat Denver,

did it, and now he's the quarterback. So everybody's talking about going in Denver and wins could be tough. Motherfucker already did it when he was a backup last year. And last night, what he did was magical. Absolutely magical. Yeah, to see how he handled, like, that was his first real test of adversity, right? Like, that pass rush was fucking good. And he came back and just proved the grit.

They flipped the switch in the fourth quarter. They were like, okay, now you're down 10 on the road. Can you do it? Yeah. And he went out there and did it. This is like the L.A. Rams. I said the L.A. Rams are a team, whenever you have all those big studs, whenever they decide to flip the switch, they can flip the switch.

They got it kind of in the back pocket. Whenever we need this, let's pull it out and do it. It seems as if the Chiefs might be the same way. And Patrick Mahomes doesn't seem to get rattled. Those big situations doesn't seem to get rattled. He seems to be a killer too, which is what you need. You need your guy that's willing to go out there and step on a throat and keep it moving. I like Patrick Mahomes.

Did you see him pregame, too? No. Casually throwing like 80-plus yards. Yeah, he was just launching missiles. Bombs. He's got a hose, bro. And you know what? It's basically like the Mike Vick commercial.

Oh, with that fucking... Nerf, yeah. That thing that whistled out of the goddamn... No, he actually did it with... The commercial was the real football. It was a Powerade commercial. Powerade, yeah. Yeah, that he did it. What thing that whistled out of the goddamn... No, he actually did it with... Yeah, it was a commercial. It was the real football. It was a Powerade commercial. Powerade, yeah, that he did it.

What was that whistling for? The Nerf Vortex. Oh, my God. The Vortex. The amount of Nerf Vortexes that are on the roof of our elementary school. It's absurd because everybody's trying to go over the school with it, and you could just hear it, and all of a sudden you hear... Lost another Vortex.

Great ball to throw. Terrible catch. Terrible catch. Oh, my God. You had to catch it by the tail. Yeah, and if you're early, that thing's hurting. Oh, yeah. That thing hurts like a brand-new ball.

But Mahomes has a cannon. He's got it all. I really like him a lot. And it's what I've been saying this whole time. Best bet in the entire universe right now. We are still in Andy Reid season. We got like a week or two left before things are going to get a little rocky.

So while we're in this, let's enjoy it. You take the Chiefs money line. It might look scary. It wasn't even bad last night. It was like minus like 170, 180. Not bad. Not bad. The week before it was 280, minus 280.

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I'm like, oh, they're coming down to earth. That sucks. Andy Reid season's over already. That's some of my favorite season. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, Travis Kelsey's getting double. He's dropping balls. Nothing's happening. He's a part of the cheat code.

New shirts out now. Go ahead and get them them pat mcfee show.com and then tyreek hill still making plays they're getting them ball in all these different ways and then he starts seeing them start cooking here like yep i knew my bet was good which it is chief's money line pro uh promo code pat my bookie.ag we're in the my bookie studio big thanks to them this thursday i believe we're doing something with hockey for Beat Pat McAfee at 11.50. I'm not sure exactly when it is yet, but it's something with hockey. What's up, Dixie? What's nice with the Chiefs, too, like early the passing game wasn't on, and then just Kareem Hunt decided he was going to have himself in there.

He lowered his head and tried to run a guy over it, by the way. That should have been a penalty, technically. Hey, let's just let it go. They don't call that anymore. Hey, let's just not address that. You saw all of defensive NFL last night, though, go like, oh, oh, oh, oh, Clay Matthews hugs a guy, gets a penalty. Kareem Hunt tries to steamroll a guy with the top of his helmet and nothing.

He gets applauded, by the way. The NFL was like tweeting it out like, truck stick, truck stick. It's like, yeah, that seems to be illegal if I was to guess. I love that game, though. What a good game. Yeah, it was great. Von Miller, though. I had to stay up to guess. I love that game, though. What a good game. Yeah, it was great. Von Miller, though. I had to stay up to the very end because I had Broncos plus four and a half.

So we both won. Well, some guy from the Action Network or whatever, he took Chiefs minus three and a half. Okay. No, he took Broncos. He won on both sides somehow. Yeah, yeah. I watched him win both bets somehow,

and it was one of the most beautiful things ever. I'm like, that guy's bankrupt. Because early in the week or like the other day, I got Broncos at plus 4.5, but right before the game started, they were plus 3.5. So if you got them there, you lost. So he probably had the Broncos at 4.5 and the Chiefs at minus 3.5. That's exactly what he had.

He had the Broncos plus 4.5, Chiefs three and a half. Landed right on the number. It was Green Dot City. And I'm like, bro, how do you win on my bookies just looking at the TV like this motherfucker? And I got Chiefs minus four and just pushed. The most least fulfilling thing that could have happened at the end of that game.

You did on Thursday night too. Oh yeah. I'm the king of pushing. It always evens out for me. How do they get so accurate, though? It's nuts to think about it. It is. Every single time. Absolutely crazy to think about how good they are.

And the over-unders are always within a fucking point. I don't understand it. Not a single clue. I don't understand it at all. How do you do it? I don't know how they do it. They got to be cheating. Speaking of cheating, the NFL fucked over the Browns.

I was watching that game. Dog pound does not deserve what they got right there. That was to be cheating. Speaking of cheating, the NFL fucked over the Browns. I was watching that game. Dog pound does not deserve what they got right there. That was a first down. And that's a big situation whenever you're running the clock out on the road. Timeouts have to be used. First down. Let's go ahead and get another win

for Baker Mayfield. Undefeated Mayfield. Browns probably undefeated all year if they got a kicker in Baker Mayfield playing. And instead, Walt motherfucking Anderson. I hate him. I think he's the worst ref in the NFL. I've said it for a long time. How about that roughing the passer call early in the game?

On the Raiders or on the Browns? On the Raiders. Didn't see that. Yeah, there was a bad one on the Raiders. I didn't switch over to that game until the end there. Yeah. And just watching that call get overturned after going to the booth, after going for the review, somebody in his –

and it's hard for the Cleveland fans not to say, hey, somebody called down there and said, hey, nope, let's take this to overtime. It's John Gruden. We can't have him go to 0-4. You got it. Like the NBA walking out. We decided fourth down.

No explanation, by the way. No explanation. And they probably told him in the air, you're in Oakland, too. Nobody's going to care. You're going to be a hero here. Just go ahead and walk out there. Nobody will even notice.

TV won't even notice. The internet won't notice. Don't even worry about it. Just go ahead. Walt, just go deliver the message, will you? Yeah, you got it. I'm the worst fucking ref in the history of the goddamn league. I'll go do that for sure.

Bang. Fourth down. Got a punt. Raiders come stumbling, bumbling, fumbling back. It was absurd. The dog pounded. Not deserving. I am 50-50 on the first down call. Do I think it was the first down? I don't know. But it was way too close to overturn it.

That's not 50-50 then. That's 100% what you just said. Nah, not in my world. But, so I don't think they got fucked there. They for sure. You just said that they got fucked. You literally just said, you said you can't overturn that. Cleveland deserves it. But they for sure

got fucked when Derek Carr fumbled like I don't know a drive earlier. It was a drive or two earlier. They sacked him and the ball was clearly out literally as soon as they sacked him but they called him in the grasp and there was no grasp. Yeah. It was so bad. They would have scored.

Yeah. the Browns do not deserve that. I mean, Hugh Jackson, what a character he is, but the Browns do not deserve what happened to them. I did not enjoy that. John Gruden, though, by the way, congrats on getting your first win. There's definitely asterisks all over the place. After the game, John Gruden has his entire

team take a knee. After the game. I don't know if you saw that. We used to do that in high school. That's what I'm saying. It was very interesting. You got these old men, though, that just ran for like three hours. They take a knee. Like, motherfucker, I'm going to have to get back up after this.

He had everybody take a knee after the game. I've never seen that in the NFL. I'm going to be honest when I say I've never seen it. Maybe before the game, take a knee or something like that to pray. Or maybe you take a knee to pray afterwards or something like that. But the taking knee so he can give a speech thing was wild to me. That was the first thing I noticed whenever he was giving his speech. He was doing the – what did John Gruden say?

He said something, I'll tell you, we'll remember this forever. Is he back there? Is Coach Gruden back there? Yeah, yeah, he is. Yeah, can you ask him why he had everybody take a knee afterwards? Hey, Coach Gruden, how's it going, boss? I'm doing great, Pat. How you doing, man? Hey, congrats on your first win.

There was a lot of asterisks, almost like Walt Anderson, and you were in cahoots a little bit. We won't talk about that. Congrats on your first win. You got a game ball, by the way. That's awesome. First time getting a game ball in a long time. You had your entire team take a knee. Coaches included, by the way that's awesome first time getting a game ball in a long time you had your entire team take a knee coaches included by the way after the game you had

everybody on a knee around you is there a reason for that well i just uh i told them you know we're just trying to get on the same page my big message was hey man look what we just did can you imagine what we would do if we had a pass rusher i've been saying it for a while you know they're not easy to come by. If we had a pass rusher down here in Oakland, we'd be 4-0, man. A lot of people would say that's kind of like a power-hungry move to have everybody on a knee looking up at you. Is that what happened?

Well, I just, you know, I mean, big win. I like to remind these guys who the big swinging dick around here is. I don't need anyone's head getting too big. You know what happened last time that happened? We had to fucking ship the guy off to the midway. I'm just trying to remind everyone who's the big swinging dick around here. They know.

I can respect that a lot. Do you ever think about I saw a coach with all white hair, might have been 70, taking a knee. Do you ever think about him having to get back up after that or that doesn't matter? Nah, not really. If he can't be gritty and get up off his ass i don't want him around here that was the first thing i noticed though first thanks coach how hard is it to kick off dirt yeah i noticed that kid was really struggling there it's a few weeks in a row too like it

happened when the rams played their week one i think the big thing is you're scared you're just gonna slip so it's like you're coming in a little bit lighter so if you that's the issue with terrible fields it's not so much that it fucks with the ball it's just your thought is that uh you're gonna slip or your plant foot's gonna be fucked it's like when i kick in my backyard there in my field there there's always always a goddamn lumps everywhere and i'm like i'm gonna plant and roll my fucking ankle here i just know it's gonna happen but i've got to the point where i'm retired so if i roll my ankle i don't give a fuck so i just go ahead and go for it but back when i was playing i had an entire area that i had to like flatten out i even got one of them like heavy roller things i rented one of them heavy roller things so i

didn't roll the plant foot having the thought that your plant foot could give is something that maybe is a little paralysis by analysis that mccrane kid, very interesting kicker, though. He told John Gruden right to his face, I can make this kick. Literally right to his face. Gruden looks at him and goes, can you make this? And he goes, yep. He jogs on the field, misses it. Then you've got to jog right back to that sideline.

And that is the situation that you do not want to be a part of. I thought he should take his shit and jog right out of the stadium. I said it. It was overtime. It was a 50-yarder off the dirt. I said, just take your shit and leave the stadium he goes back ends up hitting game winner good for him congrats to him but yeah it's it's it's more in your head i think that you're gonna slip which by the way could be true too i have no idea but like as a kicker from 50 you can't say no though right when a coach you can never say no yeah you never i've never heard

anybody say no ever but you it's normally comes through your special teams coach to you, not from the head coach to you. So when Gruden turns, hey, man, what did he say to him? Hey, man, can you make this fucking kick or what? And then McCrane goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, coach, absolutely. What did Gruden, do you think, say back to him? Well, get out there and fucking make it then. So he misses.

In his head, they show Gruden with like a scowl. His first thought had to be like this fucking kicker. I hate him. I knew I shouldn't have sent his ass out there. So you had a similar situation a few years back. You had a really long one. They sent you out to kick. Yeah.

What was that like? 65-yarder. It was in preseason, though, so it didn't really fucking matter. So we had a backup kicker in camp so i had not even kicked a field goal yet in camp at all with a snap and a hold because they were just like yeah let's not waste any reps so i go chuck looks at me and he goes you want to kick this and i'm like yeah absolutely i'd like to kick this and then as i'm jogging on the field i'm thinking i have not kicked you who's holding for you griff whalen I have not kicked yet. Who's holding for you?

Griff Whalen. I have not kicked yet this entire training. Griff Whalen, worst center in the history of the league. Everybody's seen the play. That was not supposed to get snapped. Griff Whalen, worst center in the history. But he was our go-to guy for everything. He was my holder. He was everything like that. Or it might have been Chandler Harnish. It was either Chandler Harnish

or Griff Whalen, depending on who was in there. And I jog on the field. And literally as I'm jogging on, I'm like, I have not kicked a field goal yet this year. Maybe not in six months. And I'm like, who knows how this is going to go. And I aimed down the middle. And I ended up pulling it left, just like what the kid did.

And it was close, by the way. I thought it was going. I was doing like the look-see, like, oh, shit. And then I missed. I was very upset. Obviously, I go in, and Chuck comes up, good swing at it, but I'm like, well, maybe some fucking practice. I was like, yeah, I'm so sorry.

I didn't say that to him. I was like, yeah, sorry I missed it. You know, it was a preseason game. Didn't matter. But it's one of those situations where you go out there for the long ones, and you're kicking the short ones as if they're the long ones. Nobody really changes their reps ones as if they're the long ones nobody really changes their reps i mean janikowski might because he just kind of guesses his steps so he's had a hell of a 55 yard this week yeah 52 yard game winner right there that was awesome but

it's it's one of those things where every kick's supposed to be the same but when you get further it's hard not to like kind of want to hit it a little bit harder you know and that's the difference between the good and great though that is really difference between the good and great, though. That is really the difference between good and great. And that's why I was not a great field goal kicker. I was a good one, but not a great one. That's the difference, though. Speaking of great.

Benatary, congratulations, man. That's awesome. What a fucking underwhelming game for it to happen in. A last-second loss in overtime with another. a last second loss in overtime with another that fairbairn kid missed by a lot the time i was the one where they iced them yeah yeah he missed big shake yeah it was a vanderjack-esque miss almost off to the sideline there kid gets another shot he makes it but that day was dominated by one man and one man only it's adam vinatieri becoming the all-time leader in field goals made in the nfl history so cool so that's a record that'll never be touched never ever be that'll never be

broken there will never be another kicker like vinatieri especially in the world that we live in now with social media and twitter because in in when you're kicking it's all in between years everything's in between years and now everybody can chirp you at all times. And your head is, there's a rattle factor that's at a level that it's never been seen before, ever. And I don't think you'll ever see a guy like Vinatieri, mostly because there's so much money outside of football to go get that you don't want to have to kick for 23.

This is a 23-year piece of work, by the way. This is a slow game here. This is not an overnight success story. This is 23-year piece of work, by the way. This is a slow game here. This is not an overnight success story. This is a 23-year Bob Ross painting to get to the top of the mountain. And Justin Tucker is an absolutely elite kicker. That guy with four field goals in the second half to send the Steelers home with another L in Pittsburgh. Donner near the three rivers in Heinz Field.

Eric Weddle wanted to be a Steeler, but instead he's on the podium postgame celebrating beating the fuck out of the Steelers in Pittsburgh. He got toasted. He sucks anyways. Oh, yeah, of course he does. Of course he sucks. If it's under 50 and Tucker's out to kick, it's automatic. I just know a commercial break's already coming. I assume that's part of the commercial break

because I know it's going in. I just get up and go to the kitchen anyways. Tucker's unbelievable, but kicking is all about consistency. That is 100% what it is. And Tucker's the most consistent kicker probably ever. Most consistent kicker ever, you could say. I mean, Dan Bailey had a run there with Cowboys where he never missed either. Vanderjack, I think for a long time, had a run where he never missed. Justin Tucker, it just seems as if he's never going to miss because he hits the ball so pure.

But to do it for 23 years, it is just a different animal. Like, Tucker will have to do it for another 17 years to catch up to that. 17 years. If it's Tucker's sixth year, it might be his fifth. I'm not even sure. It might be his fifth year. I don't even know if it's his sixth year.

So he would have to do it for another 17 years to even get close to that record it's just in venetaria is with teams that scored a lot patriots scored a lot colts scored a lot kicked field goals a lot tucker he's with the ravens they're not all those are some defensive battles and he's in the afc north which is a terrible area venetaria though, though, AFC East, let's not get crazy. He was in some bad shit, too, for a while. But just to think, how many years has Tucker been in? I think it's his seventh. Seventh year.

So for another 16 years. Undrafted. 16 years, Vinatieri as well. 16 years he would have to do it to catch up to Vinatieri, and that's why even Justin Tucker would say, that guy's the fucking man. Matt Bryan as well, hell of a career. Jason Hansen with the Lions, hell of a career jason hansen with the lions

hell of a career because whenever you can stack up that amount of years of not getting the yips and not getting in your own head and shit like that it's just it's another level but tucker is a phenom to watch congrats to vinitieri he's going to get the all-time points record here in a couple weeks that's going to be awesome to watch as well very happy for him i hope he just takes his cleats off tells everybody suck it bang see you later this team's going to be awesome to watch as well. Very happy for him. I hope he just takes his cleats off, tells everybody, suck it. Bang, see you later. This team's going to win one game this year. I do not mind the go-for-it call in overtime.

It's just like any fake punt or fake kick. If you make it, you're a genius. Vrabel did it in overtime for the Titans. They had a 50-yard field goal with suck-up, which might as well be a lock, by the way. Suck-up is very, very, very accurate. Might as well have been a lock. He thinks about it, puts his team

back on the field, goes for it. They end up scoring a touchdown, beating the world champions, Eagles, in overtime. If it works, it works. If Vrabel doesn't get that there, he is going to be second-guessed forever for not letting Suckup hit that 50-yarder because all they got to do is bounce down the field, Jake Elliott hits the game winner.

Eagles steal the win in Nashville. But instead, it works out. Vrabel's team wins the game. That Titans team looks tight, by the way. That camaraderie level is very high. It looks like they like Vrabel. Good teams are teams that like each other. And those Titans like each other.

But whenever you fail in an attempt like that, the world comes down on you. And all the players said they loved it because it's a coach believing in them. But, man, that's a tough way to lose a game. That's a tough way to lose a game. The only difference between the Vrabel and the Frank Reich was there was a lot of time left for Vrabels. Going for it on your own 40, and there was only 25 seconds left, and they had no timeouts. And so they had to get like 25 yards to get vinny in range it would have been tough even if they did make the first down to even get into field

goal range with that little time left to even for that to for even them to give a chance to win that was my only problem with it i guess the the risk reward is what you're saying correct yeah the risk assessment of life is what you're saying yeah because they had to move a little bit to get into Vinny's range. Yeah, but it's still like you're just going. We were looking. We can't find a video of it anywhere. Was it an out? Wasn't it an out from the sideline?

If he gets out of bounds. Every time I Google search Colts fourth down play, the fucking snap against the Patriots comes up. Griff Whalen. Bad center. I think we will always talk about that. No, because I think it was thrown to the numbers. No, it was outside the numbers because it was short.

It might have been an out, but Luck throwing that short, by the way, is a whole other animal, right? He did throw it 50 yards. He did throw a Hail Mary that game. He did throw a Hail Mary. I don't know the big difference between the 49 and the 45. Everybody can say that they don't listen to things

that are being said outside the building, but it sure felt as if there was a different situation there. But that ended up short. It's always if it works, you're a genius. If it doesn't, you're an idiot. It's just one or the other. I mean, it's a game, too, a roll of the dice. But as soon as they missed it, as soon as they didn't get that first down,

everybody on earth knew that was over. I actually tweeted out, oh, no. As soon as the ball was incomplete, I tweeted out, oh no. But didn't the Eagles last year make their living on going forward on fourth down? All the great teams, they know that there's a better chance, like fourth and four, there's a million chances

there's going to be defense holding, defense passing interference. You can get four yards in this league in this day. Four yards is basically a... And think about the refs, too. The refs know that's a big moment, so maybe they're a little excited as well. You could steal a call out of that. You're 100% right.

You don't think about that. I like the way the Titans look, by the way. Yeah, biggest surprise of the year. Their defenses suck. They're a bad team, I think. I think they're a bad... I don't mean bad team. I mean, you put them on paper, you wouldn't say,

man, this team is fucking loaded, especially with Delaney Walker out, I think. Yeah, he's very good. He was stabbing a sword in the middle of the field and i was like oh shit he's out and they're still doing this that team is together though they're very it's like the eagles team last year very together team they like each other a lot i said it a million times and i'll say it again when i saw that meek mill team meeting where everybody was dancing to meek mill together as a team. That means more than anything in the game of football.

Anything. Because it's not you're playing for yourself. You're literally playing for everybody. For the boys is what they're saying, by the way. They just hijacked that, by the way. They just hijacked that. But they are playing for each other. And it seems Vrabel is first-time head coach.

He's a young guy. He's earned the respect of that locker room. And it's almost like they're in it together. And I think he's a hard-time head coach. He's a young guy. He's earned the respect of that locker room, and it's almost like they're in it together. And I think he's a hard-ass, too, so I think it's like a win-win situation there. Taylor Luan's been a hell of a leader in there. Yeah, Mariota can make a play at any time. I like that team a lot.

And, by the way, would have never guessed it. I would have never guessed. Brett Kern, their punter, most underrated punter in the history of the NFL. I even fucked him over this past weekend for the brand because I changed the channel, and he puts one out at the three. I'm like, I start getting tweets. The Titans actually tweeted me.

They're like, yo, did you not fucking see this? I'm like, I only got six TVs. There's eight games going on. I got six TVs. Get off my dick. I don't know what to do. I don't want to put the cart before the horse, but I did pick them to win the division on quick hits.

Did you? On Titans, yeah. You had a little 6-0 last week, too. I did. It was a big week for me. I've been bad gambling. Things have been going bad. Titans got the Bills next week.

Yeah, and it's a weird line. I just saw it. Me and Connor, Boston Connor, were talking about it yesterday. It's a weird line. The Titans are only minus three at the Bills. It's a scary one. That's one where I'll probably stay away from. Oh, I won't.

I'm jumping all in. Yep, you'll go all over the Titans. I'm three at the Bills. It's a scary one. That's one where I'll probably stay away from it. I won't. I'm jumping all in. You'll go all over the Titans. I'm going all over the Titans. And they'll win like 26-24 for some reason. The biggest issue with me with the Bills is Josh Allen's so inconsistent right now. He played so bad. So bad. So, so, so, so, so bad.

He was rolling right and thought he could make a 60-yard pass back left. Like, I respect the confidence in your arm, but that's just a terrible decision in NFL. But that's him being a rookie, right? So this is exactly what they're banking on. You're living and dying with him from leaping over Anthony Barr one week to across your body 60-yard toss into an interception in the red zone.

That's a very interesting situation. So what if he shows up and balls out up there in Buffalo? You never know. But there's my early lock. Go ahead and get it now while the line is still what it is. Go ahead. Go to mybookie.ag, use promo code packet, 100% bonus on your first deposit, and put it all on the Titans.

That's like the line this weekend when it was Seattle minus four at Arizona. It was one of those weird ones. Like, you think they should blow out the Cardinals, but they didn't. Well, everybody's saying that about Detroit-Dallas, too. That was a good bet for us. We snuck in there. Hey, we snuck in there. I like that.

I like that a lot. I took the money line. You just easy? Take all the stress out of it? Just money line? Yeah. I lost everything this weekend. Did you?

I stink. It's so hard. It is hard. It is so hard. Especially, it seems like this season. Maybe we say that every year, but you just never know. The parody is unreal. Hey, Earl Thomas is the GOAT.

Yeah, respect. I mean, that's a tough one. It sucks. How about the Chiefs coming out yesterday? Yeah, we were going to trade for him. They came out yesterday and said, yeah, we were definitely trying to trade for him. Not anymore. Oh, my God.

And if he's playing in Denver on Monday night, you know what he doesn't do? Don't break his leg in Arizona on Sunday. So that's something to think about. But he gets $8.9 million this year. Yeah. And they said the clean break will heal before Super Bowl and definitely for free agency.

So Earl Thomas will be a healthy animal. Just like Le'Veon Bell, too, for who says he's coming back week seven. Best running back in the game. Can we talk about this? Best running back in the game. Because I don't understand his strategy here. Diggs, you guys are bad at football. Steelers are bad right now. Bad at football. They look terrible in all facets, though Boswell

seems to have found a stroke back, which is good. That's the only good news right now. Not yet. Week seven. But I don't understand the strategy in coming back week seven. So he did an interview. Okay. I understand what you're saying. You can still have a chance to come back and get hurt or whatever.

Just go on with the fucking interview. Sorry. That he's doing it just because he misses football and he wants to remind people of how good he is. He wants to come back. I respect that. Hey, because that's why I put up videos of me kicking in the backyard by the way hey hey y'all motherfuckers forgot real quick that's what lev bell is thinking but it's his own damn fault that people forget whenever you're looking a

little bit overweight performing on tmz on a on a nightclub so what what is that three weeks out yeah it's the bi-week seven week week seven is the bi-week and he was he said he was going to come back uh he doesn't know how many how many practices he thinks it'll take but he's definitely going to be ready for week eight versus the browns so that's one month so he has one month right now to get in shape because i know everybody will say well the camera because i look bad on camera very regularly i was actually told by an agent yesterday an agent i said oh you look you look better in person i'm like thanks i don't know what that means, but thanks. I appreciate everything you just said.

Angles. I understand that the camera can kill you a little bit. Lev Bell looks big, though. He looks big. With those types of athletes, though, guys like that, though, one month is more than enough time to shit. Because that isn't old. Like for us, Todd, you and me.

And Bowers has this joke. Like this fat that we have, like for us, Todd, you and me, and Bowers has this joke. Like this fat that we have, this thing's been around. This thing's been here a couple decades. This fat, you're not just going to take it off easy. You know what I mean? Lev Bell's fat is what, from one good offseason? He can shed that with the quickness. One month he's back in the game,

or the Steelers are going to make a late run. Are you guys going to be a good football team again? Yeah, because injuries will be healed up by then. Yeah, probably make an easy, easy, probably won't lose a game after he gets back, I assume. Is that what you're thinking, Diggs? Yeah. Another big thing from that interview was he said that the Steelers told him when they were going through negotiation talks, no matter what,

they were going to transition tag him in 2019, which basically lets him negotiate with other teams and let the Steelers have the right to match. Yeah. What do you think? I don't know. I don't know what to think. You guys are bad right now. I just don't get it.

I'm like, I've been broken up with, and now I want to get back together, and I want to forget everything that happened. You talked a lot of shit when it first happened. Whoa, who did? Employee 26. Oh, yeah. We remember that all. Week 8 is the trade deadline.

So that makes sense from that standpoint if he wants to come back and thinks there's a trade in the works. But otherwise, if you're holding out to protect your body, why not keep holding out until week 10 when you absolutely have to be back? He wants to remind people. He wants to say he's sick of people forgetting. But you just saw what happened to Earl Thomas. And he commented on Earl Thomas.

Keep being a bad guy for all of us. Earl Thomas, by the way comment on Earl Thomas? Like, dang. Keep being a bad guy for all of us. Earl Thomas, by the way, breaking his leg after holding. His first thought, by the way, isn't that I have to rehab my leg. It isn't that I just broke my leg in the middle of this game. It isn't that goddamn that hurts, right? Think about how much pain he was in, by the way. Think about how much pain he's in, by the way. Think about how much pain he's in.

No, no, no. Cool as a fucking cucumber on the back of a goddamn cart while the other team is patting him on the shoulder. He just thinks to himself, I fucking hate Pete Carroll. I, yeah, fuck you, man. And you know what? Everybody else is over there, too. I'm sure Russell Wilson's near him. Hey, take one there, bub.

That is just beautiful to me. Pete Carroll was asked about it, who he thought it was targeted at, and Pete Carroll said it's a big stadium. What an answer. With the gum, too. Big stadium. I absolutely loved it. I absolutely loved that. I

cried laughing when I read that Pete Carroll said it was a big stadium. That's just absolutely awesome. Earl Thomas, where will he land? Is he going to go ring shopping? Is he going to go for a team that has a chance? Maybe the Rams? Maybe the Rams will figure out a way to get him in that roster? Or will he be going for big cash, which is what he wanted, I think,

since the beginning? I think he's a Texas guy. I think he's always wanted to play for the Cowboys. That's got to be the favorite. They like him, too. How about the Cowboys get a win? Good for them. Zeke went off.

Yeah. He looks terrible, by the way. Yeah. He looks bad, doesn't he? He looks very bad. But as a football player, he looks good. I'm just talking about as a human. Yes.

I don't get it. I don't get it either because he's still fast, still in shape. But you know what? This is what happens when your metabolic rate slows down. Correct. You get a little bit older. Happens to all of us. Doesn't happen to you, Nick, huh?

A little bit, but it doesn't show as much. I had it well. Zeke looks different, doesn't he? But he's still incredible. Still really good at football. Good for him. Very good. Good for Dak Prescott, too, getting a big win.

By the way, I had no idea that Dak Prescott is that bad of a stack getter. He started very well, and then he plateaued and kind of fell off. Everybody and their mom, though, just mentions his stats compared to what everybody else does. Everybody goes, compare that to what Dak has done, who I guess has never thrown for 300 yards or something. He's got no one to throw the ball to. That, too. And also the people pulling the strings. Des Bryant said bad at it.

Des Bryant's still not in the NFL, right? No. Who's back first, Lev or Des? He just tweeted, I think, yesterday. Someone asked him if he was coming back, and he said soon. Who, Des said that? Yeah. All right, so there's a little over-under.

There's a little pick-em. Is Lev back before Des or Des back before Lev? If I was a little pick-em. Is Lev back before Dez or Dez back before Lev? If I was a betting man, which I am, I think I'm going to lean Dez. Slightly lean Dez. How about in the game though? So not just on a team, in a game. Dez

has more incentive to come back. Lev has no real incentive to come back until week 10. If he comes back before that, it's a weird, it's a weird, it's the wrong decision for Lev. Dez is rich, though. Dez is already rich, just like Lev's already rich. The incentive, there is no incentive, really,

for either of them to come back, right? The only reason why Dez would come back is for pride. That's the only reason why, to prove everybody that in Dallas, he was right, everybody else was wrong. That's the only reason why Dez would come back. Lev, same thing, though. Lev would be the same thing. And this is all working out very well to Lev, by the way.

With the Steelers losing like this? Yeah. Yeah, to the Ravens at home on Monday night, by the way, this is all working out very, very well for Levy on Bill. It's like, who do you think is in a game first? How did Josh Gordon do this weekend? I think he had two receptions for like 28 yards or something like that. Miami Dolphins.

Patriots are saying he's good. They're saying he's good? Patriots are saying they're very happy with what he's doing. Really? Yeah. Oh, not good. Edelman's back this week, too. Oh, my God.

And they shut out the fucking Dolphins, didn't they? Seven. Dolphins scored late. I bet on the Dolphins. 38-7 was the final. Plus six and a half. We only needed fucking 32 points. In the fourth quarter.

I had to turn it off, though, because I was so mad. It was all over the games. I hate when that happens. I had to turn it off because I was just so mad. I'm like, what the fuck happened to you? You guys were on a run, Dolphins. And then you get into Gillette, which is very tough to play. That's why I think the Colts are in for a tough one on Thursday night,

especially with you think Julian was training with little high schoolers like Jameis Winston all during his suspension? Did you see the list of players coming back from suspension? Yeah, there's a lot. And it wasn't like they were being, it's not like the way TV people were talking about these people who were suspended for four games. They were talking about them like, here we go.

We got these people coming back from a cheating suspension that was not even... Nobody gives a fuck. It was like, here's the players coming back, and they start listing them off. They're like, oh, the Patriots get a lot better with this guy coming back. Not a single thing was said like,

you know, these terrible humans who tried to cheat and scheme the system are coming back because I think that's how big of a joke the NFL's testing process is, that everybody on Earth is just like, yeah, that's probably bullshit right they got a four game break now they get to come back I'm excited though to watch that Patriots team really put piece it together I know the whole world doesn't like that especially Indianapolis Colts fans aren't gonna like that on Thursday night but man whenever they start because whenever Tom had Randy Moss

those were fun those games were fun he threw for 50 touchdown. Those games were fun. He threw for 50 touchdowns. Those games were fun. And then now you got Patrick Mahomes with the Tyreek Hill and that offense. So now you got at least a 4 o'clock game probably that's going to be incredible. And hopefully a Patriots game that's going to be electric. And it's just like defenses

around the league are like these rules and these players were fucked. Absolutely fucked. The Chiefs and the Rams are on a collision course. Collision course. I think they play in Mexico or something like that. That game is going to be a muy bueno.

Muy bueno. I think the Rams might put up 60 that game. Against the Chiefs defense? They're 32nd in the league. They're not great. They played better last night. So here's something you've got to think about as well. I know. They have to be on the field a lot. Yes.

Whenever you're scoring at a rapid rate, your defense is on the field a lot. So it's like you don't get a lot of rest. But, but, no excuses. You're professionals. Booger was really hard on them last night. They were bad. That whole crew was fucking so bad. I'm not saying anything about the announcers.

No, Booger was good, but he was really dissecting the Kansas City defense. If he said a country mile one more fucking time, I was going to lose my shit. I'm not saying anything. People are saying that those announcers are the worst announcers in the history of football. People are saying that. I heard that. But I would never say that. People are saying that it's making games hard to watch with how terrible the announcers are. But I wouldn't say that. People are saying that it's making games hard to watch

with how terrible the announcers are. But I wouldn't say that. No. Not me? No. People are saying that this decision to have those two people in the booth and that man on a little cart on the sideline blocking the view of people paying thousands of dollars for tickets

is the worst decision ever made in the history of NFL being broadcasted. But I wouldn't say that. People are saying that. How quickly did they forget about Dennis Miller? That was a long period. And Kornheiser was in there too. Every once in a while I'll see a motherfucker show up in my comment section when people are like, we need McAfee in the booth.

We need McAfee in the booth. And people that don't know that I played, they only think that I do comedy or whatever. Oh yeah, I remember the last time we had comedians in the booth, Dennis Miller. I'm like, if you're comparing me to fucking Dennis Miller. What an idiot. I want to walk through Twitter sometimes and just kick a motherfucker in his face.

Right out of the phone. As he's holding his phone, I just want to go ahead and reach my leg right through and just go, shut the fuck up. Or you should just make a graphic where you just kick tweets off. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. I the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. I really want to do that sometimes.

I really do want to do that. The possibility of me covering a game, we are getting close, by the way. What did you do yesterday? Oh, it was a big day in New York. Huge. It was, wasn't it, Foxy? Yeah, I got kind of bossed on, but that's what happens. Bro, he got punked hard.

All these fucking acronyms from these business people just blow my mind. How do you expect me to know what that means? What's a DTG or a OWOW? I don't know. There's an MCM, MCN talk. There was a lot of things going over our head in this meeting, but Foxy was getting shit on. Foxy was getting shit on.

It was awesome. I was enjoying the hell out of it. He should have got the quarterback wrist just looking down. Bro, that's serious. It was awesome. I was enjoying the hell out of it. You should have got the quarterback wrist just like looking down. Oh, that's good. I needed that. The thing with Foxy is he went straight from college to this world, too. So he's never had to deal with acronyms one day in his life. Business at World Acrobatics.

I know you haven't either. Let's go ahead and toss me into that. There's a couple of times where I stopped meetings yesterday and was like, no clue what you just said. Absolutely no clue what you just said right there. And they're like, what do you mean? And they're like, I don't know. You just put three letters together and expect me to know what the fuck that meant. I don't know right there. And they're like, what do you mean? And they're like, I don't know. You just put three letters together

and expect me to know what the fuck that meant. I don't know what that means. They're like, and then there was a whole Google session on them trying to figure out what exactly it meant. It was wild. It wasn't very time efficient when those acronyms are supposed to be time efficient. Fox is only saying this because he got shit on.

So we went to New York City. For those wondering, the Pat McAfee Professional Baseball Player player the greatest comedic sports documentary in history will be released october 10th which is next wednesday pre-order will begin october 7th which is sunday pre-order is 333 release date october 10th five dollars so if you don't get it sunday monday tuesday you all you have to get it Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, you have to get it for $5. I'm giving you all a warning.

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No. Nope. I forgot. It's something about us putting it on our own website instead of putting it somewhere else. Gary V dropped it. Yeah. We have the whole Gary V conversation.

I know OPP. You know me. Other people's property. You all about stealing that shit. It's not that. It's on top. It's on top of something. So whatever.

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I think you're going to enjoy the hell out of it. I did a promo tour yesterday. I was in Gary V's office. Do we have the recording of that? Here's me into Gary V's office. on pause that pause that so whenever we were thinking about how we promote this yeah in my head i thought of you know who's a promoter that i know that i could text so i text gary v asking him if he can promote it then i delete that text and i go gary is there any way i could get advice you see to possibly help me release this documentary because gary is a guy who wants to help you that's all he wants to do is help the

helper he's a helper he's a helper all day every day he's a helper he's he's the internet helper yeah that's what he is yeah there was an approach to this though you couldn't just ask to promote it i have i need to cards against humanity you need to play to who's listening so i i because i did want to hear gary's advice you know on so driving to gary's office from the airport through the lincoln tunnel in the middle of morning rush hour yikes how do people live there i have no idea everybody that tells you new york city's greatest city on earth liars all of them and i know why they're all miserable because that lincoln tunnel fucking traffic is the worst terrible we sat underneath the goddamn east river for an hour and a half

right underneath it underneath the bedrock by the way everett our driver told us now there's no water whoever's speaking here because you're underneath the bedrock and i'm like cool man is there any way we can get the fuck out of here though and it was just back just back to back. There's six lanes converging down to two. And there was an accident, I heard. And there was an accident. So we were literally sitting in a Lincoln Tunnel for an hour and a half. People do that every single day of their life. I have no clue how.

But we get in there. So now I have to think of what question I'm going to ask Gary V. So I had no idea. I was like, what advice am I going to ask him for? We finally get to his building. Front desk lady makes us go stand in the corner because we're in the way how is VaynerMedia nice?

it's in a building with other stuff it is very fucking nice we were mind blown with how nice he is this corner office that's got this whole view it's very very very very nice but the building itself is run by a bunch of fucking assholes we go into the lobby and we're just like we have no idea where to go so this lady is being we thought was being very nice right like we're here to see

gary v she's like okay is somebody coming down to get you we're like uh yeah i think we'll text him okay sounds good and there's nobody else in the lobby except for us just us huge lobby huge lobby biggest one of the biggest lobbies i've ever seen you need to go stand over there out of the way out of the way what over there so we go stand in the corner basically in the corner so we text Gary V's assistant he tells us we just need to check in with the lady so now we have to go back check in now we check in we get our whole thing Foxy gets his bag thing and they don't tell us where to go they don't tell us say we have no clue where to go so she said he heard five right here Foxy said he bag thing, and they don't tell us where to go. They don't tell us. We have no clue where to go. So he said he heard five, right?

Foxy said he heard five, something about a five. So we go into the elevators. There's no other option except for 45 to 50. So we go up to the 45th floor, obviously 45. We go all the way up. We get up there. It's just some, like, cafe. It's very nice. We're just moseying.

We're literally just walking around, going to the bathroom because we almost pissed our pants it was bad situation through the lincoln tunnel we go to the bathroom up there so then i send a text to the assistant i'm like where are you guys and they're like floor 25 i'm like we didn't have that option so we had to go back down yeah we had to go elevator bank yeah we go to the next one nope only the 30s then we had to go to the next elevator bank on the other side of the building. Up to 25. Now we're 15, 20 minutes late to this meeting with Gary V. So we go in to the VaynerMedia.

We walk into his desk, and this is how long the whole conversation was. Did Tyler tell you my issue? Yeah, you're going to be quick, right? Like, I got to run into this. I got a little bit of a fire. Well, talk to me. Okay, so I got a little bit of a fire. Well. Talk to me. Okay, so, A, thank you for taking the time.

B, boss shit you got going on right here, Gary. Pretty amazing scene, right? Yeah, I was up in the 45th floor of this place because I thought the lady said 45. So we were in a complete different, okay. So I'm releasing the greatest comedic sports documentary in history next Wednesday. Okay?

It's me playing professional baseball. For the first time I like playing baseball. Mic'd up the entire time. My friends commentating. It's a good thing. Alongside of that, we're releasing, every time you buy a documentary, you enter into a raffle.

In the raffle we have two Super Bowl tickets, two World Series tickets, two WrestleMania tickets. How much is the doc? $3.33 pre-order, $5 release. Love it. It's going to be on what? iTunes? PatMcAfeeShow.com I understand. That's an OTT. I'm not sure what that means. Over the top. On top

of the internet. Meaning I put in my credit card right there and I watch it right there. Yes, it stays there. Netflix, it's not... How much is too much? That was my advice. how much is too much of pushing? Like do people get old, sick, and sick? That was my voice, how much is too much of pushing? No, I think you haven't had to push. So you've built up an audience for a long time

where I think you're like, I think you make a fun Instagram post right here and be like, yo, for the next week, I'm Colin McGregor, I'm Floyd Mayweather, I'm Vince McMahon, I'm Macho Man Reba Savage, I'm promoting my thingor I'm Floyd Mayweather I'm Vince McMahon I'm Macho Man Rave of Savage I'm promoting my thing so like cool

so they know it's coming yeah be like enjoy promotional Pat cause I'm gonna push it I want you guys to see it it's fucking worth it and

I felt like it was such a douche that I had to push it I had to make these raffles for you fuckers too got it own it got it like when I do my book

and sneaker I'm like, yo, jab, jab, jab, right hook. I'm in right hook mode. All that shit I do for free, better than everybody, all the rest of the year, I'm throwing my right hook. I'll give you a real good piece of advice, which is just true.

For free. As long as you let your audience know that you don't expect them to buy, that you appreciate them to consider to buy, that's the whole relationship. That's all you got. You understand? The whole relationship is like,

yo, I've been doing a lot of this stuff, I have an audience, like you guys know what's going on with me, I'm on my own now, like I'm flat on the machine supporting me, like I made this rad thing, I think it's super worth $3.33, I think it's worth five bucks.

I also fucking love the fact that some of you are going to WrestleMania and the World Series because you bought it because I want to do this. I'd appreciate you consider this if I've ever brought you value and if not,

there'll be a deal the next thing you might like, boom, boom, boom. You see what I mean? It's an authentic relationship. Because then it's not an awkward situation where I'm like, hey, you should buy this.

It's more of a, hey, what do you want? I'd like you to really consider this so that I can keep doing my thing. But if you don't want to watch it, like, fuck me. Don't buy it. That being said, if you're a gambler like me

and you want to buy it just because you want a chance to go to the fucking... I think it's the greatest raffle in history. I think you just own it. You have a real audience. People fuck with you. Just tell them the truth. All right.

I appreciate you, buddy. And send me text with the links when you, so is it up now? Are you voting now? No, it's over 7th. Good, so as soon as you start promoting, send it to me, I'll give love. It's good, by the way.

I feel good. This office is dope, buddy. We need to really hang. I hate that I have to run to this and it's rushed. Well, I was in a Lincoln tunnel for 45 minutes, so. Fuck. But how often are you here? Very rare.

This city's the worst. How the fuck do you hate New York, right? I hate it. I slept in a human's feces the other day. Yeah, but what do you have in Indianapolis? Peace of mind. No traffic. A lot of land.

Big house. That's about it. Four shitty things. And that's how it ended. So big thanks to Gary V. So I'm gonna be calling mcgregor i'm setting the over under at 300 for the amount of times i say i'm in right hook mode i enjoy the first thing you said when you sit down in this important meeting with gary boss shit if you foxy's gonna put a whole video together of yesterday. He videotaped everything.

That was from a cell phone video, by the way, that Foxy was taking. Because we were trying to film everything without people knowing that we're filming because it's awkward. You yelled at every building you walked into. That lady that told us to go stand in the corner also no filming like five times. Immediately. Yeah. You got Gary Vee upstairs who films everything. Do you know that?

I don't know. If you know, there's a guy. But Gary Vee, good advice. I appreciate it. It was very nice of him to take the time, but he had to go put a fire out. He had to go put a fire out. I think being up front with like, hey, I'm going to promote the fuck out of this is the right thing to do. I'm going to let you know that even if

you don't like me, which is cool with me, I'm not for everybody, you should at least enter this raffle for $3.33. Maybe a $5 raffle and you could win. Shout out SeatGeek, by the way. Sims and Lefkoe, which I also stopped by Bleacher Report.

I did this whole plug. Two good Super Bowl tickets. Two good World Series tickets. Two good WrestleMania tickets. And Sims goes, good, not great? And I'm like, well, we don't know what they are. I think there's some legality where somebody could potentially come after.

These aren't good. They're good. They're good tickets. And SeatGeek said they'll be very, very good tickets. You're not touching the ceiling of the arena. You're in the game. EA Sports. Promise that.

I think we can make the promise that you won't be touching the ceiling of the arena. We can. We can definitely make that promise. We can make that promise that you will not be in the upper tier. You will not be in the upper bowl. You will be in the lower bowl of all these events. Great stadium too. Falcons.

Atlanta. Oh, yeah. You're going to want to go to that Super Bowl. And who knows where the World Series will be, obviously. But WrestleMania is, I, is at MetLife. I believe it's at MetLife Stadium. Yeah, it's going to be an incredible... Isn't it MetLife?

I think it is. I thought that's what we talked about. Oh, boy. We'll get you a jacket, too. But it's WrestleMania. It's WrestleMania, though. So I'm very excited for this documentary to go. But I go to Bleach Report.

So we go Gary Vee for five minutes, literally chat with him. Then we stop by my agent, CA. I got people. We sit by there. We talk for an hour and a half about everything. Basically, Pat, what are you thinking about doing? And I learned that if you don't have an agent,

you're fucked. That's what I learned yesterday. I just learned that if you don't, there's a reason why it's not about what you know. It's about who you know. In every industry, they say, I've always prided myself on being a very independent operator. I'll put my numbers up against anybody that has an agent. I'll put my numbers up against anybody on the internet.

While you mainstream main network people on these Twitter purges are losing half your followers, mine are still growing. I have a lot of pride in that. A lot, a lot of pride in that. With that being said, I get considered for nothing that is like mainstream or in the networks or anything that I'd be probably good at. I get considered for nothing of it. And I've always held a very hard grudge against all these networks.

I never hired. I mean, you know, fuck ESPN. You don't want to go to hell then. Like when I was coming out, when I was coming out of the league, Barstool was the only place that offered me anything. and there was a guy who was saying he was my agent sending out feelers nobody wanted i was like fuck everybody then if that's the case but it turns out that if you don't have an agent you have no chance anywhere and that's what we learned yesterday you can see now like they're so busy places like that sifting through and sorting through yeah the

people that all these agents are pitching at them. They don't have time to think about an independent. No, they have no, and there's also those, these agents. That's why I'm very lucky. I signed with the people that I signed with. See, I guess they're very, very important. They know everyone. A lot of names. I'm not a big name dropping guy. Normally when people start name dropping, that's why anytime a name drop happens, you me go into the microphone i don't love name droppers but but when you're talking to an agent they just start name dropping all the people that they've done work for it was the first time in my life i actually had a full

conversation in my head you know one of those situations where it's like in my head i'm like i fucking hate that they're dropping names like this and then i start listening what they're saying i'm like these people have worked with some pretty big motherfuckers. When you walked in there, did you feel like Vinny Chase? Like going, like, see Eric Gold? There was a couple entourage references I made for sure. We walked around the entire office. I met Joel Embiid's agent.

I met Aaron Rodgers' agent. I met all these people. And I was just like, it all makes sense why I never got a fucking job. We got these people just battling. Tell me, did you make a money joke to Aaron Rodgers? Like how much he just got paid? The agent just got paid off that deal. I did talk about $100 million.

I mentioned $100 million guaranteed somewhere in there. But it was just. Does he look anything like the guy that plays his agent in the State Farm commercial? No, he doesn't. He's actually this older gentleman, white guy. And he's got slick back hair, obviously. He looked good. He's actually this older gentleman, a white guy, and he's got slick back hair, obviously. He looked good. He's an attractive older man,

but he's got this corner office, obviously. All roads led back to this guy's office. Very nice. All his feet up on the desk. Yeah, oh, yeah. But they're all very nice to us. Yeah, they're awesome. Very, very nice to us.

And then we get in this meeting, and there's this lady who reps all these production companies. So tv show ideas which i got a bunch of them i got a bunch of tv show ideas for everybody not just for myself but for everybody they're like what's your plan i'm like well i'd like to do that i want to bring back minute to win it you ever heard of that game i want to bring back minute to win it i think it'll crush it these moments i'd like to host it i'd like to do that they're like okay the lady starts writing it down and then she's like uh anything what if shows are being offered up can we put your name in to host them if they're not your idea i'm like absolutely she's like all right there's a couple main networks that have some game shows coming up would you mind if we put

your name in there i'm like go ahead and put my fucking name in there they're like they're like well these production companies they always ask for jj watt. Watt. So when J.J. doesn't do them, we'll just send your name in. I'm like, I will take J.J. Watt's secondhand faller downers, his scrubs, anything, like any day of the week, by the way. I will take any day. They're like, okay, sounds good. And they're like, okay, you, guy with the camera, do you have a sizzle reel for him? And Fox is like, nope. Nope.

Do you have a template, a designer template? I had no idea what that meant. Do you have a sizzle reel for him? And Foxy's like, nope. Nope. Do you have a template, a designer template? I had no idea what that meant. Do you have a designer template? And Foxy's like, nope. Do you have any clips at all, highlights of him? And Foxy's like, we have them, yeah, but not sorted. And they're like, okay, do you do anything? And I'm just sitting there.

I'm like, fucking unbelievable, Foxy. And the other agents that I've done some work with, they traveled out here to the office two times. They're guys, I would consider them friends at this point now, by the way. They seem like they have my best interest because if they have my best interest, they make a lot of money too. So I very much understand this is a money-driven relationship, but I'm okay with that, these guys.

So everybody in the room basically just started piling on Foxy. Like, what the fuck do you do? Is that your next project? Yeah, it's my next project. I was like, in my defense, we have not needed a reel up until this point because we were working at Barstool, so we didn't need one. Oh, yeah. See, I learned that we probably did, by the way.

Well, you should always have a rainy day fund. I guess you're right. I'll tell you what. These people, though, these super important people, though, just looking at Foxy. What the fuck do you do? I was fucking help. What were you wearing?

He was sitting there. how were you where he was sitting where were you wearing he had a polo on yeah okay nice he had a polo on he looked pretty good but he was sitting on his couch like all by himself basically and i was sitting on a lone chair and then everybody was just staring at him for a minute i saw him start to sweat i'm just thinking of foxy in his head he's like i'm sitting in the caa building yeah it's just uh this is pretty cool some pretty fucking big time players in this room right now. And everybody's staring at me, just piling on me right now. And obviously I had to jump in.

So he went to Michigan State. I mean, what do you want from me? And then that led into a whole nother conversation. He just started getting dumped on and dumped on. It was wild. And they kind of felt bad bringing up like production companies because they're like, your work's great. Don't get me wrong.

But it would be in Pat's best interest to get him a part of these i'm like guys i literally said i get it i get it was very tough it was very tough it was foxy had a rough 20 minutes in there it was about 20 minutes of them just like trying to talk around fox and i was like fox and i both i had to stop it actually and say we both get it that we might have to work with production companies that's completely okay with us just for future reference and they're like okay I was like Foxy would just be there basically making the vlog behind the scenes by the way they're like okay that's really good to know and then the

conversation completely shifted to there we have this show this show it was pretty I was loving because Foxy's got thick skin I mean you kind of have to to work here I mean I think we all kind of take shots at each other. There was one soft bitch that worked here for a while. He's gone.

But it was one of those situations where Foxy was just getting crushed for 20 minutes. And instead of being the boss that feels bad for him, I was just dying laughing. Because who gives a fuck? No, not at all. I was just glad to be there, to be honest. Nobody gives a fuck. Tough spot. I don't think anybody here, Pat especially,

thought you were going to remake Family Feud. Hey, see, I don't know how dumb you think we are. I know Foxy isn't making a minute to win it right now. We very much understand that. And then you went to Bleacher Report after that? Then we go to Bleacher Report right after that. Well, we go to get lunch, first of all. No, I can't. We go to lunch. report right after that well we go to get lunch first of all and i can't we go to lunch hilarious stories are shared there and i'm just dying laughing

and that lunch is where i realized that you have to know people to get any job that was at that lunch that's where everybody was kind of more casual there was a lot of fucking just stories being told and i'm like holy fuck this is really it makes sense now it makes sense now why i'm just i've only lived on pat mcgree show twitter and pat mcgree show internet is really, it makes sense now. It makes sense now why I'm just, I've only lived on Pat McAfee's show Twitter and Pat McAfee's show internet. That's it. It makes 100%. So then we go to Bleacher Report.

Hop in a taxi, I get car sick. Yeah. This guy was a lunatic. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't do back of cars. I think everybody has known, I don't do riding well. I always drive. I even Uber, I'll get in an Uber

and I'll ask the guy if I can drive. They'll get in a passenger seat. It's just the way it goes. I get in Zito's car, I drive. I even Uber. I'll get an Uber and I'll ask the guy if I can drive. They'll get in the passenger seat. It's just the way it goes. I get in Zito's car, I drive. I get in Nick's car, I drive. It's literally just, it's why I can't ride because I get car sick. And in the back of those taxis in New York City, I was sweating. My mouth was sweating.

I almost puked a couple times. So you get car sick because you have no control of the car, essentially? No, I think I get car sick. He's just whipping around. I think I get car sick. But when I'm driving, a couple times. So you get carsick because you have no control of the car, essentially? No, I think I get carsick. He's just whipping around. I think I get carsick. But when I'm driving, I don't. I don't know why. You're dialed in.

The last time we were in New York, the Uber driver was going 90 through. Oh, my God. It was terrifying. That's what our guy was doing yesterday. Our guy was doing yesterday and trying to tell jokes while doing it and didn't speak English. I was starting to sweat, though. So we get there two minutes before we're supposed to go on air

with Sims and Lefkoe. And we arrive, and I'm sweating. I have to piss again. It's just I'm in a bad spot. They come down. You have to check in to get into any building. We go out to Bleacher Report, and I have never seen a nicer office in my entire life.

Never in my entire life have I seen a nicer office. In the middle of Manhattan, middle, never seen a nicer office in my entire life never in my entire life have i seen a nicer office in the middle of manhattan middle debt probably the most expensive real estate tnt money yeah tnt turner money is a real thing it's a bigger office than this one it's a nicer office than this one it's the nicest office they have a basketball court in there it's the nicest office i've ever seen in my entire life we did an internet show, Sims and Lefkoe. There was four cameras, six interns, four camera people, two makeup artists for an internet show.

And I took 10 minutes commenting about how much money was spent on this production of this internet show. And they're like, yeah, yeah, this is how it is. And you walk around the office and everything is just pristine. Everything is high level. Bleacher Report, they got the Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson thing? Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

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They got all the money. Best office in New York. I would say that. That's a bold statement, too. You got to remember, every building in New York is old. All the shit is old normally. And this might be me living in a very small world.

Same. I feel like I've been in a lot of buildings in New York, either to pee or to puke after with Mark Henry. They're all old. Everything's old. Yeah, you think L.A., you think nice, crisp, clean, showy. In New York, you think Gotham. Like it's very dark and old architecture.

You got the things outside that cover. Scaffolding. Scaffolding covering. Not because they're building. It's because the building is falling. It's falling, actually, not building. It's because shit's falling on you. And you walk into this Bleacher Report building,

and it was the nicest office I've ever seen in my, nicest office I've ever been in in my entire life. Every single inch of it was just, I'm like, oh. How about the basketball court? Big ceiling for that? They got a high ceiling, yeah. It was only a three-point arc, though. It was only a three-'m like, oh. How about the basketball court? Big ceiling for that? They got a high ceiling, yeah. It was only a three-point arc, though. Yeah.

It was only a three-point arc, so it wasn't a full court. It was in the back corner. Yeah. But it's the nicest office I've ever seen. For sure. Full sports bar up there. What? I love that.

It's outrageous. It is absolutely outrageous. That has to be, what, $5 million a month, how much they're paying for that rent. I can't imagine. Just rent there, let alone the 300 humans they got working inside of it. It was absurd. It was the nicest office I've ever been in my entire life. Good for them.

Wow. They got a lot of cake. I think I did pretty well in there, too. Was it Joe? I think so. Oh, you did. I didn't enjoy Sims before meeting him, right? Sims is kind of a guy that he doesn't want people to like him, I don't think. He's kind of like one of them Skip

Baylesses almost. That's what he is. I think he comes off though as a snob almost, right? Yeah, snobby, nerdy. I called him a nerd. I called him a nerd. He did not enjoy it. I did call him a nerd on the air. But after meeting him, I think he's a really cool guy.

Agreed. Just for future reference. I think he's a very cool guy. I think I will fall. Not that I was ever on the hater of Chris Simms train. After meeting him, I will never be a hater of Chris Simms. I think he was cool to meet him. I understand his character might be one that is hateable.

I think he has a hateable character maybe that he plays on TV. But I like Chris Simms as a person. And his boy Lefkoe, hilarious. Yeah, he was. Big fan of that Lefkoe. Is he the guy who was in the video with McVeigh? Yep, absolutely. You can pay for just about anything with your upstart loans.

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the place that I built, basically. So I compare everything to us with 30-foot ceilings and a basketball court, half court, by the way, Bleacher Report. This TV wall is pretty cool. Dude, that is just such a small little part of it. I walked in there, though, and was like, if I had this place, I would be very excited. This is awesome. I assume there's people that just sleep there, and they don't even of it. I walked in there though and was like, if I had this place, I would be very excited. This is awesome. I

assume there's people that just sleep there and they don't even know it. I assume there's Bleacher Report employees that sleep there all day and they don't even know it. I fucking loved it. So we leave Bleacher Report and then we have to go to Sports Illustrated now. Sports Illustrated, by the way, is on the southern tip of Manhattan. So it was a 45-minute

taxi ride. So now we got to get back in one of them death mobiles. And here I am sick again. We're bobbing, weaving. We get down to Sports Illustrated. We've got to check in. Foxy makes an ass out of himself again to check in. That was a mess. He's having a rough day.

Because they check everybody's bags before you go anywhere. And there was a huge sign that said, please enter here for bag check. Wasn't huge. Huge. Foxy's standing, doing a full spin in a circle asking where to go and the fucking guy at the front desk is like sir sir sir right fucking next to you and he like looks he's oh i didn't even see walks in walks out foxy's just getting crushed now by the Sports Illustrated people. We go into the Sports Illustrated office now.

They're charging five bucks a month for people to watch the Sports Illustrated stuff. They mean content. SI Now or whatever. Which I did not know until we got in there. They have never paid for air conditioning with that fucking money that people are paying. What's up with that?

300 degrees in that office. I'm sweating my dick off at this point. But they have probably $400,000 worth of lights in their ceiling of their thing. They have five cameras that are run on remotes. You know, those remote robotic cameras.

All in one little studio. Tiny little studio. I'm like, man, this is an internet show? And they're like, yeah, what's your setup like? I'm like, uh, we got a cell phone. We got two sticks and an hdmi cord it's wild the amount of money these big old money people are spending on the modern internet stuff it was crazy so we hop in a plane fly back here this morning we're off and running and i can't wait for just the world that i potentially could be getting baptized let me ask you this because uh it seems like a for just the world that I potentially could be getting baptized.

Let me ask you this because it seems like a lot of the people that are in the industry you're being exposed to now are kind of like, what took you so long? Why'd you wait so long or whatever? Are you happy with the timing? Because there's an old saying, don't be in a hurry to fail. And the list of people that as soon as they got a little bit of heat, the industry grabbed them up and spread them out too early and they fell there's much longer than the amount of people who succeeded so yeah I would put you in that position of you're one of those people that are doing it when you're almost too good already to be doing it which is a good spot so I think I'm prepared so if that makes sense I think I'm prepared for it any situation whenever I was younger and I thought I was,

like when I had 100,000 followers, I thought I was a monster, right? And that's because I was looking around the NFL at what other people had. That was before everybody was on Twitter. And I had more followers or the same amount of followers as some big-name people with zero pub from ESPN or anybody else. So I thought I was a monster. Then I started doing radio, and I thought I was hilarious, right? I thought I was very good. And then you just start, and I thought I was hilarious. I thought I was very good.

And then you just start realizing, like, I'm not that good. As you get older, you're like, I wasn't that good then. I've had a chance to have to take pictures everywhere I go in Indianapolis, so I'm not going to get to the point where I become a gigantic douchebag whenever people start asking for photos, hopefully. If I become a monster. This is all if I become a monster. Hopefully it does, by the way.

And I also think that I have a group of people who have supported me, which are my followers on either Twitter or this. I think I have a group of people who supported me that I'm going to enjoy the ride with, right? So I think it's a lot bigger deal whenever you're with a group of people because it's like yesterday, if I would have started posting videos that I was with this or with Bleacher Report, my followers would have blew up Bleacher Report. Like Matt Hasselbeck did a For the Brand thing last night on ESPN, and he got more mentions for that than anything he's ever done.

The people that fuck with me are the greatest group of humans on earth, and I think I'm just prepared for it all now. So, like, for instance, on Sunday, I think I'm sitting sitting in a pretty big networks office and watching football with them all day sunday a very large network i'm gonna be in los angeles i'm sitting with them all day and it's like i think i won't make an ass of myself it'll be awesome right if that makes sense i think i'm at the point where i won't make an ass of myself where earlier in my career i probably or in my life i probably would have made an ass out of myself so now i just feel like I'm prepared for things. I'm very comfortable. I know who I am now.

I know what I'm not. I know where I should stay away from when I'm talking. Like, oh, yeah, if I bring this up, I'm going to look like an idiot. I know nothing about that. I feel like I'm in a really good spot. I feel very comfortable and confident. I think it's important because you have, it takes a while for people, I think, celebrity-wise or entertainment-wise to actually find themselves, who they are,

and that's when things start clicking because then they truly find how people can best enjoy them. So, for instance, Mauro Ranallo, right? The bipolar rock and roller. The announcer for NXT, Bellator, the Mayweather-McGregor fight. Whenever I'm doing the NXT pre-shows, he listens and watches. Afterwards, he comes up and talks to me.

Michael Cole is my boss when I'm there. Michael Cole is the guy I report to. Michael Cole always tells me, you just be you, man. All he wants you to do is be you. Always tells me congratulations and stuff like that. He says, I love your brand, everything about you. Very nice. He'll tell me some things brand, everything about you. Very nice. He'll tell me some things like,

hey, maybe stay away from this next time. That's not really a good thing for us to talk about or whatever, you know what I mean? But Mauro Ranallo came up to me and he said, when you were talking up there, I wrote a note down to tell other people that you know who you are. And I was like, yeah, yeah.

I've been with me for 31 years. He was like, no, no, no. Whenever you get into a microphone or into a situation, you know exactly who you are. He said there's a lot of people that are trying to figure out who they're supposed to be whenever they get on TV or on the microphone. He said you are always you. He said I listen to your podcast.

I watch you in videos. You are always you. And he said that is something I think, and it was a huge compliment from moreover now it made me feel very good yeah because otherwise you sound people sound disingenuous yeah like is there not it's not the true them and he asked me why i think it is and i think it's because i got humbled so hard in my life i think i've been humbled so hard i've been at the whenever i got arrested and i became a national punchline for everybody that was was the moment I think I was like, well, people are going to

hate me regardless. Let's just fucking do it. And I'm very lucky that I made that decision to just be like, fuck everybody. With all due respect to everyone, fuck everyone. That really is though. If you don't like me, you don't like me.

That's why I always say some people aren't for, like I'm not for everybody. I honestly give no fucks. Like if you don't like me, you don't like me. That's why I always say some people aren't for, like, I'm not for everybody. I honestly give no fucks. Like, if you don't like me, I don't care. And it's a pretty freeing feeling to be in a way. That's why I think a main benefit of being in a locker room for so long is, too, because if you're not yourself, you're going to get fucking dogged on hard. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. And, like, that's one of the main, like, that's why I always, like, if you play a team sport, like, it sets you up for life so much better than if you did not. You learn so much, not only in the discipline of practice and the pain that it takes. Winning, losing, everything. Working while tired, by the way.

There's something that if you're not a part of a team sport or a sport in general, you don't have a clue about. We had some interns here that were tired and couldn't work, and I was trying to figure out why. And it was like, oh, you never played a sport before, so you have no clue what it's like interns here that were tired and couldn't work and they i was i was trying to figure out why and it was like oh you never played a sport before so you have no clue what it's like to actually work while you're tired not that it's only sports athletes that have it that is a gene that does transcend past just athletes but that is something i think sports do teach you is the ability to work and i think todd you might have helped me realize that where it's like sports are something that teach people a lot of different lessons.

Yeah, I always encourage everyone to get their kids involved in sports because even if they're not good, I mean, the lesson learned is invaluable. You know what I mean? Work ethic, how to help others around you succeed. Oh, fuck, it was when we were making my stand-up thing. That's exactly what it was. And Todd and I, we had a full conversation. I had a stand-up special where we had exactly what it was. And Todd and I, we had a full conversation. I had a stand-up special

where we had an editor who was just dropping the ball. It was like, we only had a week and a half, really, to make this thing. Which, by the way, the agents learning about how I operate is very hilarious. By the way, I'm coming to New York City on Monday. I'm going to be there for about eight hours, so I need

you guys to make things happen. This upcoming Monday? Yeah, yeah, two days from now. I'm coming to new york do you uh oh it's gonna be tough yeah yeah yeah it's gonna and then they text me on sunday the night before i go they're like is is bleacher report and sports illustrated meeting with us and gary v enough is that worth the trip i'm like yeah yeah that's much more than i thought we were gonna get they're like you know you give us about a week in advance we could probably help out a lot i'm like that ain't how this this whole thing goes down by the way but that was very much in and you really pointed out you're like sports teach people different things it really does

it's it's very it is nice it is very freeing though to walk in any situation and feel very good about what you're gonna do what you're gonna say and believe everything you say too by the way so everything i say i am if i was to be put on the railroad tracks and say why did you say this i'd be like yeah that's how i fucking feel what do you want from me there's never like going to be something that's held over my head and you learn how to take criticism yep all these all these things to make the make the you know the team better yep uh you i the other thing is about not realizing who you are and getting blown up too early. I think that's a big reason why a lot of child stars don't make it to the

second phase of their career. Of life either, most of them. They just spend their adulthood trying to still be that fake version of themselves or whatever they were when they hit it big. And they never got to discover who they really are. Or they don't and people don't like them for that. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Or they try and be themselves, and it's not what people thought they were, and they don't like it. Yeah. So you shouldn't be exposed until you've already figured that out, I think. Yeah, I think I'm just ready. I honestly do.

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so then he got a one-year extension with the cardinals he's a 10-year nfl vet from the sheeple university penn State AQ Shipley. I mean, these intros get better and better every time. I appreciate that. Let's go ahead and talk about something that you probably don't want to talk about. Let's say it's fourth and five. Fourth and five, you're at home in Happy Valley. The most wild atmosphere I think I've ever seen in sports.

Kirk Herbstreit actually called it the most insane college environment when Ohio State is in Penn State with that whiteout on earth. You're in the game. You got a quarterback that has an incredible track record of making plays happen, and you decide to run a dive to lose the game in the biggest game of the year, your dreaded rival. How does that feel as a Penn State Knick?

Worst fucking call I've ever seen. How mad were you? Did you throw the remote? I'm not even kidding you. I mean, like, I was sitting there, and I'm looking at the TV, and I didn't say anything for a second. And then I looked at the TV, and I go, that's the fucking call? That is the fucking call?

That is what we call on fourth and five? And then to boot, to boot, my mother-in-law's in town and she's got a boy and she's got a boyfriend who his his his kids went to ohio state so she she decides to take the side to take the side of him and it's like cheering and i go don't you say another word to me. They come into your house, AQ. They come into your fucking house. Disrespect, the level of disrespect.

I mean, it's just unbelievable. How about James Franklin getting into it with the fans after two? Yeah, an atmosphere so wild that the overgrown man-child of a coach can't handle it and tries to climb into the stands. Thank you. You know, I didn't see that video. My sister told me about that yesterday. Apparently it's pretty wild, huh? Yeah, it was.

And then the fans were just like, hey, wasn't a good call, coach? And then he was like, oh, really, buddy? Like, tried to come in the stands. And then the fans were like, oh, I get it. He was mad. James Franklin. You guys went right back to your cult. It was a wild switch.

It was, dude. But I think that Ohio State game means so much. Like all year round, is that the thing that you guys are prepping for? Like, hey, we cannot lose to Ohio State. We can do this. We can do this. We can cover up pedophilia for two decades. We can do this.

Easy. Easy. We cannot lose to Ohio State. Is that the thought in Penn State, though? Well, I mean, at the end of the day, if you look at the Big Ten, Big Ten has basically become a three-man, four-man race basically every year. And the level

of competition between Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, like those five teams, and then the rest of them are just bottom dwellers. Well, Iowa's pretty good. That's the way I look. We'll go there. At the end of the day, you play, and half the time,

because they did this Big Ten East, Big Ten West thing, you don't play Wisconsin and Iowa. So basically, if you win the Ohio State game every year, you're basically on the track to win the Big Ten. Okay. So not only is it a rivalry, a border rival, which is huge, which has been hyped up forever, a long time, it's also a fast track to a Big Ten championship, which in the end is all that matters. Exactly.

How about losing Urban Meyer's first game back after just a terrible situation? Penn State could have really done some morality, some good stuff for the world, and they let them down after three timeouts, fourth and five dive. You're right. They could have. We just decided to just trick off a fucking eight-point lead and go fourth and five dive.

It's fucking awesome. Were you at the Cardinals game this past weekend? Yeah, I went. How did you feel? I'll ask you about Earl Thomas flipping off the entire Seattle Seahawks bench here in a second, but how did you feel about Rosen? Did he handle himself like a professional? How do the Arizona Cardinals fans and how does the building feel about the kid?

Yeah, I mean, the kid, I mean, he's the future. I mean, there's no question about that. I mean, he went out, he showed some poise, he handled himself well. Seattle's obviously known for having, obviously, Earl Thomas and Bobby Wagner, two of the best defensive players in the game. He went out and made big-time throws on third down, you know, in different situations in the game.

He had two big drops that could have, you know, made his numbers even a lot better and took us down in the fourth quarter, down seven, ended up tying the game. So he showed some problems, no question about it. Surprised a lot of you guys, you think? Yeah, to be honest. I mean, you look at rookie quarterback, it's so hard to come in because at the end of the day, like, you come in in April,

and you get thrown into this fishbowl, and especially Cammy, the top ten pick, and you're expected to do all this stuff, and then now he sits the first couple weeks. I mean, regardless, I mean, I've been in that situation. Regardless of, like, how much you can prepare to be a starter, there's nothing that can prepare you instead of getting in the game. There's nothing that can prepare you instead of getting in the game. There's nothing that can do that. So, like, this was really his first kind of – his first start.

He's got different feelings, different nerves, different everything rolling with him. And he went in against Seattle, which – Seattle's not the same Seattle. I mean, I looked out there. Like, it was kind of mind-blowing because I looked out there and I'm like, I don't even know who fucking half these people are. like you look you look at their defense from three years ago and 10 of 11 or 9 of 11 aren't even on the field i'm like where did this team go but russell wilson's contract russell wilson's contract is where they went by the way that's what richard sherman got married

this past offseason i guess it was just I hate Russell Wilson. I mean, it makes sense because I tell people that all the time. People are like, man, why do the LA Rams have all this money? It's because Jared Goff hasn't had a second contract yet. That's why. They can afford the Brandon Cooks, the Todd Gurley's, the Aaron Donald's, the Sue's, all these people.

In two years when they up Goff, they're going to fall to shit. Hold on. Hold on, AQ. By the way, somebody on ESPN took my thing people in two years when they up golf they're gonna fall to shit hold on hold on aq i'm on by the way somebody on espn took my thing and ran with it by the way i am openly on the record stating that this is another recipe for a successful nfl team in the future and this whole cpa raising the salary cap might end up coming back and killing the quarterback market it might end only the elites will survive.

They'll build up a team around a young gun who's accurate. You have to have an offensive mind like McVay there, obviously. You have to have a good offensive mind. But I think they could bring it. Now, granted, Jared Goff, very good quarterback. Let's not knock him at all. But there is a slew of guys who can throw footballs very accurately that don't have jobs in the NFL.

And if you build an expensive, incredible team around him, I think these second contracts for players that are quarterbacks that are above average, I don't think they're average or bad. I think they're above average. I think those things might disappear here in a little bit, AQ. I think it might happen. These super teams might start taking over. I disagree.

Why? I disagree completely. Why is that? I just think the way the league is rolling, I think you're going to start seeing, the way I see it is I think you're going to start seeing five guys paid an extraordinary amount of money and everybody else basically making a million dollars or less.

On teams? You think every team's going to be like that? I think every team's going to be like that. I think you're going to pay the shit out of a quarterback. I think you're going to pay the going to be like that. I think you're going to pay the shit out of a quarterback. I think you're going to pay the shit out of a receiver. I think you're going to pay the shit out of a pass rusher, a corner, and an offensive lineman, so probably a left tackle. I think that's it.

Five guys are going to control the whole cap and then everybody else is going to be on a million dollar or less salary. What happens if the Rams win the next two Super Bowls, though, and Jared Goff's this rookie contract and everybody wants that juice or wants that recipe? What happens if the Rams win the next two Super Bowls, though, and Jared Goff's this rookie contract, and everybody wants that juice or wants that recipe? What happens if that happens? At the end of the day, I mean, it's happened before.

It's happened before where Seattle did the same thing with Russell Wilson on a rookie deal, and then they still paid him $100 fucking million. And look what happened. Yeah, I get that. But at the end of the day, that's the way the market's going, the way the quarterback market's going I mean in five years 150 million deals are going to be 200 million deals and then it's just going to just keep rising like that that's just the way that's

the way it's like I said like your plan you need a GM with a lot of balls you're actually talking about logic in the NFL let's let's about logic. It seems as if the rules, AQ, are... Now, granted, you're in rehab. You're rehabbing your knee right now. You rehab every day. I assume you're on your way to rehab right now at the Arizona Cardinals facility. I hope your rehab's going great. We all

pull for your health of your knee for you to come back strong next year, Rosen's second year, just for future reference, just so we get that on record. Thanks. No problem. Earl Thomas, Lev Bell. Both kind of held out. Then the world made them feel bad.

Earl Thomas thought he was going to go to a cowboy. Pete Carroll refuses to get rid of him. They don't pay him. He breaks his leg in your game levion bell sits out he's doing very interesting things he's at strip clubs during training camp videos of that he's releasing uh albums having album release parties basically telling all of pittsburgh he'll fuck himself that's either here or there but he wants more money with watching earl thomas's reaction to seattle do you think player holdouts are going to happen at a much higher rate these days?

It should. At the end of the day, if you're a top-level talent, Earl Thomas is, in my opinion, I've gone against him 10 times in the last five years. I mean, the guy is the present-day best safety in the NFL. When you're watching film and you see him start on one side. He does the same shit Troy Polamalu does, except at a higher level, to be honest. I mean, he really does. He disguises low and right on the line, and he's over here showing like he's basically

in the box, and he ends up getting back to the deep third, making an interception on the other side of the field. There's nobody in the league that can do that. So for him, he deserves his money. And in this situation, in Lev Bell's situation, all anybody wants, if you're going to sit there and risk everything by going out, because at the end of the day, it's not if you're going to get injured. It's when you get injured in this league.

I used to be like, ah, it's bullshit, because I felt invincible for nine years. And then I've had three surgeries in the last 18 months. So it's like, you're inevitably going to get hurt at some point. So for, in their case, you know, all they want is that security. Like in, in Earl's case, he wanted that security to finish out his career. He wanted another three-year deal and they, he wanted them to invest in him. So if they weren't going to invest in him, fuck them. You're not going to invest in me. I'm going to invest in myself and just not show up to work not show up to practice hold out do all these things but every every fan they don't get that because all they care about is all the you know fantasy's kind of ruined it because it's like oh it's my fantasy team i got the seattle defense

or uh still i'm a fan of the seahawks and this that and the other left bell and now now you know god i drafted him second overall in fantasy and shit. Now my team went to shit. It's like the contract the Steelers offered him was a five-year deal with basically a one-and-a-half-year guarantee. Like, that's horse shit. And nobody understands the business side of things. They just see, oh, the top number, the top number that agents or teams leak

to spew to make themselves look good. Oh, we offered him $70 million. $70 million with 18 or 20 guarantee. Go fuck yourself. top number the top number that agents or or teams leak to spew to make themselves look good oh we offered him 70 million dollars 70 million with 18 or 20 guarantee go fuck yourself like that's a shitty contract because as a running back because you're gonna get to rock a lot that earl thomas injury is very possible especially if you view yourself as once in a generational uh player like lev bell and his people do that is a bad contract i didn't know that by the way he's yeah i'm out in that interview today. Yes, it's a horrible contract. And at the end of the day, it's like all these guys want is just to feel rewarded and to feel some security to go out and lay their body on the line.

Because, you know, especially in Lev's case, he's in the prime of his career. These next couple years, like, that is where he needs to make his money. I mean, I'm obviously not the level of uh you know celebrity status or player status that those guys are but i dealt with that same situation this year where it was like i wanted my contract going into my last year to kind of secure me through my through through me retiring and i go out and tear my knee luckily i was i was lucky enough to have an organization that you know it's awesome enough to extend me yeah but you know i was in the same situation like i tore my knee and i'm like shit like my season's over and then when like the real emotions hit i'm

like fuck my career might be over now because they didn't fucking reward me before the season you know what i mean yep absolutely and then they do by the way which was one of the coolest things i've ever seen an nfl team do do because when NFL teams do like hard business you know like shrewd business moves the crowd's reaction the people's reaction is like yeah yeah it's good business it's good business and a lot of people are saying this I'm not the first person to say this but anytime a player does something business-wise they're like asshole right and I never understood and I think it's because the teams don't leave the cities while players do come and go I think that's it but whenever you're comparing yourself to an the teams don't leave the cities while players do come and go. I think that's it.

But whenever you're comparing yourself to an athlete, why don't you ever compare yourself to the owner? Why don't you ever compare – because the athlete probably is much more similar to you than the owner is. That owner has been a billionaire his whole life. Now, granted, the team is always there, so the public perception is to take the side of the team because they're always been there and the players are always just uh spoiled millionaires but most of those players probably come to sit from situations very similar to you and they're just trying to do their best decision there and it's always kind of hated upon and i think that narrative might be slowly changing though as the world changes and becomes a more woke place i think that narrative might

start to change a bit. But this Lev Bell situation in Pittsburgh, since the Steelers have done so bad, I think that is the only reason why the narrative is changing. But I thought he was going to get booed out of there even whenever he came back as a Steeler. He still went. Well, I mean, at the end of the day,

to that fan and to those fans that are constantly taking this out of ownership, I tell that fan and to those fans that are constantly taking this out of ownership, I tell that fan, I ask that fan to be a fly on the wall and show up to an NFL facility on September 1st, on that Friday after the last preseason game, and watch the cutthroat side of the business. When guys are going out and running a conditioning test, 90 guys are going out and running a conditioning test, 90 guys are going out and running, or not a conditioning test, a little conditioning workout,

just so some little Grim Reaper-looking slapstick who's never played the game in his life, a fucking pair of glasses, can walk out there and just start tapping guys on the shoulder, hey, coach needs to see you, grab your playbook, hey, coach needs, the only fucking business in the world that hires 90 to fire 50 basically. So to those people,

think about that for a second. How many times have you been cut? I've been cut six. I've been involved in like 13 transactions though. The cut six. Whether it be. When you get cut. Pre-sign.

I've never. Pre-sign. Hold on. I've never been cut. I've been fined. I've got into verbal disputes with the boss. I've done a lot of that. I've never been cut.

Is that like a breakup? Like how is it handled normally? And is it like, hey, it's not you, it's me. Is that kind of the way it goes? Like how does it go? Is it business? Because we watch it on Hard Knocks, but they only show a couple of of them they don't show all of them what because you're a good player you've been in a lot of places so i'm sure there's some relationships though what is the cutting

situation like is it like a breakup um yeah i mean i guess you can kind of look at that way it's i've been fortunate enough where i've played really i've played for good organizations so the good thing about a good organization is they do things the right way, they handle things the right way, which then allow you to handle things the right way. I feel like if I got disrespected and the way I was cut, if I just got a call from a third level

scout and didn't get to talk to somebody, I feel like I'd probably fly off the handlebars. As you know, I have a pretty solid temper. Solid temper. Solid. It's a solid temper. And I don't think I'd be able to handle it if it was done in like a shitty situation but I've been fortunate where I've been in situations where at least when they do it they you know you talk to the GM you talk to the head coach you talk to your position coach and they all say the right things at the end of the day and um you know I think fortunately

for me I've been able to handle myself in that situation and grow as a person there, which has allowed me other opportunities because I've been cut by teams and then, you know, brought into other teams and had same coaches who I've been cut from before. So basically, um, cause you don't know when you're going to see somebody down the road. You never know. And like, I talked to Phil Dawson a couple couple times and it's like you know basically when he played for san fran he said like if he would have like been an asshole in some way shape or form when he left cleveland at some point then you know years later when he's in san francisco and three of his coaches off that cleveland team are now

coaching in san fran it's like now now you're in an awkward situation. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Yep. I can see that. I believe heavily in the burn the bridge behind you so you have nowhere to retreat mindset, but I can understand how that's probably not a good idea. If I would have done that along the way, there's no chance I'd have a career. That's because you're a gentleman, AQ. How's fatherhood? Fatherhood's great.

Baby's getting big. She's getting old. She's getting a nice little personality. She looks more like me. Nightmare! Nightmare! It definitely means it came from me. That's all.

All right, AQ. I appreciate you, brother. Hey, always a pleasure, guys. Did you see the Browns-Raiders game where Walt fucking moved the spot on that third down? Did you hear about this? I saw it. Yeah. And then, you know, a couple of the equipment guys, they were watching your commentary about the McCrane guy. I saw it Yeah and then You know that I watched Me

A couple of the equipment guys They were watching your commentary About the McCrane guy McCrane McCrane was on our team In the preseason How was he? Did you hear this

Did you hear this story? No Matt McCrane comes in As a Undrafted free agent And he comes in And we got Phil Dawson Who's Legend 42 42-year-old kicker,

kind of a legend in the kicking game in this league, right? Yep, not kind of, definitely. Yep, definitely. For the brand, by the shirt. They ask him a question in OTAs, and Matt McCrane's like, well, I feel like this is my best opportunity, because Phil's getting old, and I just don't know if he's got it anymore. Oh, I didn't know that.

So the next three months. He says, I don't think he's got it. Hold on. He says, I don't think he's got it anymore about Phil Dawson. Oh, yeah. The next three months between Phil Dawson and Matt McCrane was maybe the most iconic moment I've ever seen in my NFL career. See, because on the broadcast they were saying that.

He learned from Phil Dawson. Of course, that's what they said. Oh, my God. So I'm happy I took a shot at the guy then. I'm very happy I did that. Yeah, good move. Hey, that got a nice little pop in the equipment room over there in Arizona. Oh, yeah, man. I mean, good move. So, hey, that got a nice little pop in the equipment room over there in Arizona? Oh, yeah, man.

I mean, everybody loves watching your Sunday commentaries, every single person. I appreciate that. That means a lot to me. I've always said my biggest thing is I want people in the locker room that involves equipment managers and athletic trainers as well to enjoy me. I often search for retired players that I'm either going to go interview with or talk to, and I just search on Twitter. Anybody ever call them a real one?

That's all I look for because for me, that meant the world to me. So I appreciate you guys watching my shit over there, Alan Quay. I mean, those are always my best friends. I mean, for the most part. I mean, like you've been in NFL locker rooms. Players come and go, like you said. Yep. To be honest, I don't really like a lot of people. So I end up finding myself becoming more closer friends with the equipment guys and the training room guys, you know, just because people just –

they don't see the same way i see things a lot of times then i'm just like fuck them they're dead i'm just gonna go make fun of them in the in the alan you're an absolute idiot tell everybody i said hello good luck with the rehab hey can we say one more thing don't like taking it circling it back to penn state i don't know if you guys saw this video if you haven haven't, go take a look at it. Did you see the State College police send helicopters over top of the tailgates? No. And it got too close to the ground?

It got too close to the ground at the grill. They were like 30 feet in the air. And the tents went flying. It was insane. That's awesome. You saw this, right? Yeah, I saw it. We actually just posted it on the Instagram.

It's nuts. Harder than Radio 2.0. Yeah, there's a. We actually just posted on the Instagram. It's nuts. Hardware Radio 2.0. Yeah, there's a helicopter flying literally 30 feet above the air above the tailgate because they didn't know how to break it up any other way. But that's definitely illegal, right? Cornhole boards are flying. I'm watching the video right now. Cornhole boards are flying.

They caused a tornado. They're causing a tornado. Yeah, they caused a tornado. It's a man-made tornado from the state police. Oh, my God. Yeah. It's funny because at the Indy 500, they tell you you can't walk in like a mile radius. The helicopter that leaves.

Oh, yeah. We got stopped like a mile. And they're like, well, think about the, who is it? A chief sergeant, something like that. Like these fuckers. He's got to be fired, right? I mean, him and the offensive coordinator are going to be fired. Like they don't have enough problems.

You know, people don't hate us enough. How about we just get real low and ruin everybody's tailgate? Allen, why don't you send some football IQ back to Penn State and keep it moving, brother. We appreciate you. Hey, always a pleasure. See you guys. See you.

What a guy there. He's the best. He is the best, man. I love him. He's the absolute best. That's 10 years, though, in the NFL. And not being a superstar, that's 10 years of like... Grinding. Grinding it out.

Every single cut day, just sweating. Like, could this be the time I have to move my family to another city? He is... He's the man. He's a hilarious humorist. It's funny to think about the guy who walks up to AQ like, yeah, get out of here. Did you hear him describe it, by the way?

That was definitely – that was a pretty accurate – he was describing one particular human in his career that came up to him that he thought, this fucking guy? Because that guy is going to have a job with the team that he's getting fired from, and AQ is not. Just in AQ, you know what I mean? It's a wild scene. Yeah, and it came out came out that well love said they offered him 17 million guaranteed and he said no because uh girly and david johnson both just got 30 million when he's about to get

14 and a half guaranteed if he signs a franchise tax so why would you lock in for five years if it's only going to make you two and a half million after taxes 1.3 million that makes no sense that makes no sense at all and this was this is this is all about who you know, by the way. This is all about who you know. The narrative from the Steelers was that we offered them this amount of money. They hit all their media members. Bing, bang, boom. Put this out.

Put this out. Spin the narrative. Now everybody hates Lev Bell. Yinger, $70 million. I understand you got to eat, but come on, Les. That guaranteed number was not new information, though. That was known back then. Was it?

Yeah. I didn't know that. It was a very low guaranteed number. That's what pissed them off. Well, I knew that. The concerning thing was why couldn't they come to an agreement where it was like, okay, maybe we lower the per year and save some of the cap, but increase the guaranteed money. See, he wanted 17 per year.

And they offered him 17 guaranteed for five years? Well, they heard 17. To the best running back. Colbert's listening to him rapping his front yard. Listen, is this you rapping? Adika Ansari or whatever his

goddamn agent's name is friend of the show this is this is what he said to the best running back in the league how do you do that that's hysterical digs i'm loving that you're all the way back in digs here's something for you what's up buddy have you ever looked at a photo of yourself from five years ago and thought damn i looked young back then no every day what throwback thursday's the day huh what happened to that guy where did all these wrinkles come from? When did I start looking like my dad? Yuck, Bailey.

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