The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 012 - Rich Eisen & John Daly

Episode Date: October 11, 2018

On today's show, Pat adds another incredible raffle prize to the #GROAT (#PMPBP still available at PatMcAfeeShow.com), chats with the guys about how players deal with money management in the NFL and why it is so difficult, covers some things going on in the news including the new Aladdin movie, a Colts lineman playing with two broken vertebrae, and hiring an acting coach to get into the film industry. Later, the first hire at the NFL network, the voice of the NFL and host of the Rich Eisen Show, Rich Eisen joins the guys for a hilarious conversation. They chat about Pat's time on his show while in LA, what some of his favorite interview moments have been, his thoughts on the current state of the NFL, his relationship with Roger Goodell, and how he finds free time with his ridiculous schedule (1:16:23-1:34:05). Come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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his green room, okay, in his studio, and there's the actual letter. I think it was from Paul Tagliabue whenever he was hired to be the NFL Network's, I think, first, I think he was the first hired by the NFL Network. And that letter is framed in his green room. And I was just looking at it reading it,

and I was like, that's probably a little piece of history right there. He was the guy who started NFL Network. He was the guy who let me have an hour on his radio show, which nobody, nobody has ever offered up to do. What a power move, though, just to put it in the green room and show it to everyone that comes in. Yeah, the green room is very nice, by the way. Well, that's like when you become a doctor, you're hanging in your office.

You're hanging to everyone's seats. Credentials. We'll talk to him about that, obviously. We will chit-chat with him about all the things NFL, behind the scenes. The NFL Network went through a pretty big controversy there for a while. Rich Eisen's name, very clean, very professional, voice of the NFL, and he's doing nothing but just carrying shows.

His Sunday morning, he's up at 4 a.m., by the way. I can imagine. Well, because he's in L.A., right? What's it start at 9? 9 Eastern? I think 6 a.m. 6 a.m. he's up and at them, having to hype everybody up about NFL Sunday.

And then Super Bowl day, I think he's on air for 16 hours. Oh, yeah. Which is absurd. And he does his show every single day. That man is a machine, and he's very nice to me. I can't wait to chat with him. The NFL is a wild world right now. It really is.

It's got people making extreme takes that I've never heard before. Philadelphia Eagles fans are going back to losing their mind because their team won the Super Bowl last year, and now they might not win it this year. So the Eagles are back. Philadelphia fans are back. And there was a local news guy, the local news Fox guy, said that the Philadelphia Eagles, the reason why they're losing

is because they're still having sex, and they need to go on a fast, he said, a fast in the bedroom so that they perform better. Now listen, this is something that old heads always think they're like this is uh you can't have sex because you lose all your your juice basically you lose all your yeah and i think what was that show the two guys they did science experiments myth busters they did it with a boxer a professional boxer they busted this yeah and it turned out whatever you nuts there's more testosterone in your body. There's more everything like that.

Well, I know for about 10 seconds it's the clearest thinking you'll ever have in your life. Oh, my God. Why did I just... I shouldn't have... Maybe run one out on 3rd and 10. That's what that tent's for on a...

The tent on a silent... I've been saying it for weeks. There is... I'm waiting on Pornhub to tent on a side. I've been saying it for weeks. I'm waiting on Pornhub to pop up a porn parody of that fucking football sideline tent. There has to be at some point. There has to be a football cheerleader sideline tent porn parody popping up soon. If it doesn't, I'm thinking about directing it. Why does sex get attacked so much, though, by the way? I don't know.

I thought it was the opposite, like you said, like the Mitch Busters. I had a hockey coach when I was younger. I was like 15. We were at a tournament. He was like, if you're anxious, if you're nervous, just go jerk it. He said, do it like an hour before the game so your knees don't get weak. There's something about Mary. We all learned that when we were young.

There's something about Mary. So Ben Stiller jerked off before the date. That's a different reason, though. No, but I mean, is it, though? The principle is the same. I just don't understand it, i don't get it i i think this is a guy that whenever he has sex right he is so confused when it happens he said it he said it fogs your mind it doesn't do who but who i think it clears your mind more than anything in history just what they said yeah yeah but i was thinking like in his

case if he is if you're not a man that has sex on the regular, and you do have sex, you are kind of in a fog for a few hours at least. Like, whoa, man, what just happened to me? Let's assume that the Super Bowl Jamming Eagles aren't virgins. None of them. Not a one of them. Let's assume that is the case. It's a... We need Foxy

here for some insight. Virgin insight? Little virgin insight? I do believe that all defensive players should not have sex during the season because they'll be so angry. You say they'll pent up. Yeah, yeah, pent up. They'll be like the 85 Bears defense. It'll be the greatest defense of all time.

You think the 85 Bears defense was having no sex? Yeah, that's how they got through the whole year. Oh, they were doing the Super Bowl shuffle, not having sex right after that? You think they were just shuffling around with loaded? They got a music video out in the 80s. They were banging everything. That's not even possible. I don't believe it. Because if you go that long without having

sex, you're running the risk of just popping up one of those random boners. And you can't have that on the field. As an adult? I don't know. I haven't happened since like 7th grade when I saw a whale tail. You never know. Absolutely dummy, bro. like seventh grade when I saw a whale tail. But like, you never know. Absolutely.

Dummy, bro. There was a time here in the Colts. Probably not as an adult. History. Yeah. As an adult, you probably haven't had one. Let's assume that you and your dick are on the same page. But there was a time in history here with the Bob and Tom show where they said no trim

until the Colts win. Yeah. I remember that. And the Colts didn't win for like 14 weeks. And the Bob and Tom folks, it was like a big it wasn't the players themselves. It was the fans were saying no sex until the Colts win. Oh, you're talking about like

beard trim. Well, I didn't know what trim meant either. But it was their big piece of trim. Yeah. I guess that's it. I don't know. No trim. No trim until the Colts win. And the Colts punished the whole city for like 14 weeks. Nobody had sex. You guys met up and were like, let's fuck these guys over so bad.

The thought of that being the reason why somebody like this guy was dead serious when he was talking this, by the way. This local news guy, Fox. I thought he was an ex-player as well. Yeah. He thought he had it all figured out. He's like, oh, we're two and three back against the wall. Got to take drastic measures. No more pussy.

I don't think that's the answer. But can you imagine, though, like an NFL player especially, if you go that long without sex and how frustrated your brain gets, they would get in so much trouble on social media. Hitting up, you know what I mean? Because that's where your brain goes when you're a young guy. Then your head's not in the playbook. Your head's in DMs, and that's even worse.

Yes. I would say that that could be the reason why people are losing, by the way, is the access to relations everywhere. I think that would be a much bigger thing than actual sex. If we could talk about all the other stuff, I think there's a lot of distractions in the world these days. A lot of distractions. I can't even imagine, as a professional athlete, a lot of distractions in the world these days. A lot of distractions. I can't even imagine as a professional athlete the amount of distractions.

Watching that young generation come in the locker room, it was wild. This was when Tinder was just starting up and shit. It was wild watching these dudes just plow through their phones with right swipes. I ain't never seen anything like it. I ain't never seen anything like it. Guys are getting catfished left and right, by the way. Yeah. Guys are getting catfished.

Everybody made fun of Manti Te hour or whatever yeah for getting catfish tip of the iceberg there no i want to yeah everybody's everybody because you come to a new city you come to a new city and you know nobody absolutely nobody you're trying to maybe hook up with somebody and all you see is just this little picture of somebody on the internet so you swipe right you have a full conversation you meet up and then somebody i mean that person could have looked like that person in the photo at some point until they fell down the what the fuck happened to you tree and hit every branch down the end of it and then at that point the guy has to be like well am i a terrible person here do i continue to do this or do i tell them

that they lie right to my face and then you just have catfishing situations happening all all over the place this one guy came to our team i won't say his name he had a lot of money though and he came to our team and he said man i'll tell you what these midwestern people are supposed to be nice all these bitches lying man i was i was like what do you mean he said man all these these girls giving me their photo when they were maybe 19 or 20. These 30-year-olds are showing up at my place, and man, they look terrible, Pat. He said, but who's the bad person, me or them? Who's the bad person here? They're lying to me.

But then if I was to tell them when they got to my house, like, what the fuck is'm the bad guy now so i gotta do it just so i'm a good guy and then they leave and now i gotta deal with what i just did i thought i was having sex with an eight or a nine till a two showed up and i wanted to be a 10 person so i did it and i had to get them out of here but pat they all lying over here in the midwest i lost it i started crying laughing it was in like the training room and i i've been wifed up basically my entire life so it's it's one of those things where i i never really got to see it all happen but boy i was enjoying it i was enjoying it so much because it can happen it really can happen everybody makes fun of man and they're like all these professional athletes you can't just meet people out in public.

It's like, to be honest, it's very difficult to do that whenever you have a lot of money because you have no clue what people's intentions are. You have no clue at all. It's not only just the opposite sex, by the way, or if you're a homosexual, the same sex. It's friends, too. You have no idea what anybody wants in this road anymore.

It's very difficult, I think, for guys to find actual love. It's a real shame. I agree. I'm 1,000% on the same page as you. Except for Romantic Tale, I believe, was like crying that she was dead and was going to go to her funeral when she wasn't real. Like, never met her.

He was in love, man. He was a hopeless romantic. What do you want from the guy? I think that whole thing got spun out of control because he wanted to make his family proud. He wanted to make his family proud because his family thought he fell in love. So then he had one lie, had to lead to another,

which had to lead to another, which led to another, which led to him crying, which led to an ESPN special, which led to him just getting embarrassed in front of the whole world. And he's still in the NFL, by the way. Still playing in the NFL. I'll see him pop up on a Sunday here and there with a tackle. I think he's on the Saints right now. He was last time I saw him, yeah.

I think he plays plays. It was one first three downs he was on the field. It wasn't a special teamer. He's still in the league. Poor man, Ty Dale. I wonder if he's dating now or what his status is. Lesson learned. I'm going to be tough.

I felt so bad for him, though. Status, it's complicated. Was that the same year that they also lost by like 45? Oh, yeah. The national championship. Oh, yeah. That was right after. It was a tough time for Notre Dame. The game was right after the ESPN special about his love with Lea Kukui or something like that.

Did they ever find out who was fucking with him? Yeah. It was just some guy. Some guy in San Diego. In San Diego, and then he gets drafted to the Chargers, right? Well, it might have been California. I don't know if it was San Diego specifically, but yeah. Just some random guy.

That's wild, bro. You got to feel bad. I told the story a couple times where I caught a catfisher. Yeah, you did. Because I knew that there's no way that picture should have been that interested in me in the state of life that I was in. I knew it. I absolutely knew it.

I called it out on it. I called it out on it after a dream I had. And then, bang, a couple years later, old Nev on the catfish show catches the bitch yep and it was some lady in a trailer in Ohio when it was supposed to be a blonde lady in Houston I was like hey next time you play the Texans come by and see me I'm like okay

maybe yeah that sounds like a good time and then it just kept going and I was like this seems like somebody from Houston should not be I am not good enough at playing. Nobody has a clue who I am. There's no reason this person should be this interested. And I honestly had a dream where I was walking through the airport,

and some old hairy man, I had to borrow his phone, and I grabbed his phone, and his phone was that lady's Twitter account, like on the phone. And I woke up, and I was literally like, she is not a blonde from Houston. She is a fat, like on the phone. And I woke up and I was like, she is not a blonde from Houston. She is a fat hairy man in the airport. And I sent her a message. I sent her a whole message that said,

I know you're a catfish. So when you write your book about catfishing people, because there was other professional athletes that she was interacting with. I saw it on her thing. So when you write your book, I would like at least a chapter of how Pat McAfee caught your fucking catfishing ass and i blocked her that was it last conference and then a couple

years later on catfish this same picture same lady was caught and it was a moment of it was the most vindicated i've ever i maybe ever in my life if i felt because there for a while a couple of my friends like on the team they saw that this. They're like, Pat, you've got to follow through here. And I'm like, there's no reason. She should be interested in you, not in me. And it was a magical situation. It's out there. This world is a catfishing world.

There was a period of time here where I thought we were just huge in Russia with Russian women who know speak good and want to have the sex. And then I realized they were all Russian bots. Come on me. Those tweets are the best. Athletes, because of their money and fame,

are targeted a lot by catfishing. How many personal experiences do you have with other players that were targeted by financial? Dwight Freeney lost like $30 million or something like that. How many personal experiences do you have with other players that were targeted by financial? Everybody. Dwight Freeney lost like $30 million or something like that. Holy shit.

Yeah, it was like $30 million. It was something. They just get wrapped up in scams? It's why I never have a financial. People always think I'm the most reckless with my money, but to be honest, with the stories that I've heard, I feel like I'm being the smartest without having a professional go ahead and use my money to do whatever the fuck they're doing.

Those Ponzi schemes are so easy for people to fall into. And then the financial advisors, they're always talking so far over your head. Like, oh, we're going to invest in this. We're going to invest in this. Oh, what happened? Oh, you lost $2 million, but we'll get it back. It's like, well, you need to put more money in.

It's always like on a loop because in the financial world i'm i'm somebody who went to college kind i attended i attended a college but you're never taught about the financial world you're never taught about the market professional athletes aren't talked about you're not talked about anything like that so when a financial advisor comes in like listen this is what we're gonna do we're gonna get in a couple options we're gonna go into a couple funds we're gonna do this we're gonna do this we're gonna do this and it's somebody in a suit that looks official you're it's a catfish it's a catfish situation where you're like oh this guy seems legit or a girl seems legit let's go

ahead and give them let's let these people who have been trained with money handle my money and when you have millions and millions of dollars you're like yep i want to be able to keep this forever and you just hand it over and then that money it's like dane cook lost seven million i think from his half brother or something like that and uh there's just stories and stories and stories of rich people just losing their money and dwight freeney was a guy i think he lost 30 million because of a bad financial advisor. Holy shit. Yeah, it was something like that along those lines. In the year before I got into the NFL, the whole market crashed too, so everybody lost all their fucking money.

So I very much was very scared to get in bed with any financial advisor because I've heard these horror stories of it all being bullshit. And then whenever they're like, yeah, invest in the stock market. Now's the time, by the way, because it just crashed. I'm like yeah but what if it happens again

like everybody lost every fucking dollar they had in there and they're like nah get back in come on back in and then you watch wolf of wall street and you're like oh no way am i doing it i'll just buy wrestling rings at 4 a.m with my money and at least if i lose it all i know where it's gone and i've enjoyed it as opposed to just hearing about it in an email like oh we lost two million dollars yesterday I know we talked about this before though we lost two million dollars like if colleges offer

that class for like athletes and stuff like that is it manageable for players to manage their own money like do they not need anybody some like you would still need guys to do taxes because when you're in the NFL, or girls, sorry, I say guys as a term. Gender neutral.

Yeah, there it is. Because taxes in the NFL, so like Phil, the guy that's here, Phil, literally one of my best friends since kindergarten. He was an accountant coming out of college. He was my accountant my rookie year. He's 22, 23 years old. College, he was my accountant my rookie year. He's 22, 23 years old.

And in the NFL, when you pay taxes, if it's an away game, you have to pay taxes in that state, that city, and that county, plus your city, your county, because you're getting paid by a team from that. So you have to pay like five taxes on those things. So there's no class that I could take overnight and learn how to figure out. No, full accounting degree and by the way phil he didn't fucking know he went to four years of accounting stuff and he had to learn all this stuff as a full-time job so it's taxes are something i don't think that players could figure out themselves because it's it's a full-time you got to look into everything who's fucking you over let? Let alone when you play in Canada or England. Now you got to deal with an international tax plus their city and county taxes.

I don't think that taxes would ever be something that somebody could figure out. But when it comes to smart financial decisions, I think that that could help out a lot. Like what a mortgage is and stuff like that. Yeah, 30-year mortgage, how much you should be putting down, what's the percentage that you should be getting fucked on interest rate, that type of stuff. Difference between leasing and buying, stuff like that. Yes, I think those are the little things that guys could learn,

but the taxes and stuff like that and how to invest in the stock market, maybe you can get some tips. But honestly, I've heard that's all just you get lucky, basically. It's roulette. So I've always been on the team that I am not going to rent. I am going to buy. Right? I've always been.

I'm not just going to let this apartment company just suck money out of me. And then at the end of it, I get nothing out of it. Now, granted, I was in a position where I knew I probably wasn't going to get cut, too, unless I completely fucked up. So there's always different methods. It's just, for me, the professional athlete course that is not offered to athletes in college i think is complete bullshit i think that is something that they should do and it sounds so terrible to be like oh you want these kids to go to professional athlete class it's better than an athletic coaching education degree where they're teaching they're learning how to blow a whistle

or a motion picture degree where they're learning how to judge a movie that they'll never watch it's at least giving them a little bit because you got a lot of people that don't even know how to fucking read getting into colleges however they're doing it guys getting into college and then they're getting pushed through college whether you like it or not they're getting pushed through college because they're incredible on the football field and then boom when it's done if they don't make the nfl they're fucked if they do make the nfl they're fucked too because they have no idea what to do with it. Yeah, they have to manage millions of dollars now. That's like a hard thing to do.

What a first world problem that sounds like. Yeah, but it's a real thing. We're not even athletes. I wish the rest of us would have had just a life class with all that bullshit. Yeah, it's helpful to everyone. Life should be a major. It should be, actually.

Life should be a major because you're not taught about all these dumb things. Like, man, you know, it'd be nice if I would have taken a handyman class. Like as a kid. Hey, I made a fucking birdhouse. I respect that. I respect that a lot. In shop class and then in home ec we made a tote bag.

Yeah, exactly. Those things are so stupid. But I'm talking like I should know how much. Like I want to get my uh my dad who's a handyman but i just i had add so i didn't stick around and do it but in college it would have been nice to get like a heads up on okay if you're gonna get your floor done how much should it cost like i should have a guesstimation of a price because i'll have somebody come give me a quote for floors and it's like 45 grand and then another quote will come in it's like 11 and then another

one will come in and it's like 20 i'm like what is this 11 that much shittier than the four like how is this and it's all because people see the size of my house they know who i am they're trying to fuck me over right it's just yeah it's something i could have never thought was going to happen in my life growing up with tim and sally mcafee that somebody was going to be attempting to fuck me over at every single corner of my life. I never really thought that was possible. Where a college will require you to take some class like 13th century painting.

You know what I mean? It's like, I'm never going to use that ever again. We literally had a class where they would show paintings on the board and you had to know what painting it was. I took Renaissance Art. See, everybody had to get that. Pretty easy. Well, how about my lady though, right? She has to go change. Pretty easy. Pretty easy. Well, how about my lady, though, right?

She has to go change the oil or something. And they see that it's my lady, so they try to take advantage or upcharge everything with the air filter, the oil, all that shit. That's just a class that could be very basic. Like, hey, whenever you go in there, this is what it should be. This is what you're looking for. Bing, bang, boom. Yeah.

That is a class that would be very beneficial, I think, for humans. But the way it'll be viewed is, oh, you're too stupid. You don't know what that is. class that would be very beneficial i think for humans but the way it'll be viewed is oh you're too stupid you don't know what that's why it's like no i'm not a fucking expert in what oil i should be getting in my goddamn car that's why i love the google machine saved a lot of people if you just do a little google before you go to know you're getting fucked yeah but if you have this person who's a professional working you know what i mean it's very difficult to not be like you know what you're the professional just like what happens with guys with money with their handing their money over to a guy wearing a suit it's like you know what you're the professional let me go ahead and do it but you got hustlers in every single

profession these days it's it's a wild fucking world wild world i wish i would have been i know i wish i would have paid attention more to my old man whenever he was doing handyman shit at the house we're all in that position i wish i would have paid attention more but also i wish i would have maybe you know granted my life was all sports but ventured out into these different things as a kid to like be like okay yeah i'm getting fucked over there like windows there's another thing when you buy a house you need windows and when they come in to like give you a quote i had a i think it was a eight thousand dollar different between two quotes and i'm like how how how how one window right there and one window right there how can youtube be so far off and it's strictly and then you start thinking right right? You're like, okay, is this cheap one?

Am I going to have to redo it again? Is that why the price is this? Or is it because that expensive one is trying to fuck me over? You know what I mean? I think there should be a class for that. Because I could have never guessed that I'd be living this life that I'm in. I'm very, very fucking lucky. But boy, at any given term, I'm getting my fucking back just stabbed by people.

You should, from now on, you should catfish your house. So show them a smaller house and be like, how much does it cost for flooring and stuff? See, here's why you need that class, because they come. It's called an estimate. I just got nepped. Yeah, yeah. I got nepped.

No, no, you're stupid. They come to, and they actually have to measure it. His kitchen would need way more tile than my kitchen. You can just take a picture. They have to come and they actually have to measure it. His kitchen would need way more tile than my kitchen. You can't just take a picture. They have to come and measure it. Oh, poor Zito. I try not thinking that much. This is why we need the class.

This is why you need the class. The life class. Not for that, I don't think. I don't know if there's enough classes. That's something you just need to know. A lot of the NFL guys you talk to, it seems like the ones that are doing well, and it seemed to, of course course your friends are kind of veterans

so they're a little more savvy, but it seems like they're investing in real estate seems to be the thing now? Or start their own business. Well, real estate, there's never going to be any more of it, right? So real estate is always going to be good because there's never going to be any more of it. The issue, I was in the real estate business there for like a year, flipping houses, and it ain't

like HGTV. That shit ain't like HGTV. You're not just going to turn over 200 grand in a week because you flip a house. It was actually the complete opposite. I was making like 2,000 bucks a house, but then with all the fees, boom, boom, boom,

I'm like losing $400. I'm like, how did I do what just happened right there? But real estate is, the thought is, there's never going to be any more of it. So you get real estate, you'll have that forever. You'll never miss out on anything. Right now, I own like three, four houses right now, right? That'll never go away. So if this all comes crashing down, I could sell my houses, I'm good to go. But real estate seems to be the

safest bet. But if the housing market goes down again, then you're fucked. Then you have to just sit on it and wait on it and wait on it. That's a long play, I think, more than anything. But I'm an instant gratification guy. I want to hit a scratch off right now. I want to hit that scratch off right now. That's what's so attractive. Some dude in a flashy suit comes in and he talks really well

and he tells some 23-year-old dude with $5 million. And he's like, hey, you want to turn that into 10? It's happened to these three people. And they're like, yeah, it really did. But that's the thing about Ponzi scheme. The first 10 people to invest pay off big. They always make money. In the last 100, get fucked.

Also, even if they're a legit financial advisor, you're still rolling the dice because if they're putting it in the market, like you said, it could crash at any time. Just keep it going around. It's carnival. Fugazi. Fugazi.

Just keep it going. Keep them on the ride. Because Fugazi. Fugazi. Just keep it going. Keep them on the ride. Because all they lose when that happens to them is a client. That's it. That's it. Mike Tyson's nut was like $14 to $20 million a year or something. That was how much it cost to be Mike Tyson because of his house and everything. Tigers.

Yeah. Cool. So as soon as Don King stepped in and took some of that, yeah. Well, and also the big thing in taxes, right? You never learn about taxes until you have to pay taxes. And I don't want to sound like a woe is me because the amount of money I made is absurd, but coming from where I come from,

there was never a thought that this was going to happen, so I never paid attention to it, ever. Never, ever paid attention to it. And then when it hits you in the face you're like wait i'm only making what i thought we were hey i thought we were in agreement i was making this hey well the government is also the government is also making i never really thought about it much until getting to know you really but like let's take conor mcgregor for instance one million dollar payday for box that boxing match with uh mayather. $100 million. Or $100 million. So immediately,

boom, he's down to... $52 million. $52 to $53 million. Because of taxes. And then he's got overhead with Payne's camp and all that. So say he walks out of there with $35 million. Yeah, it's like $40 million, $35 million, $40 million.

Which is an incredible amount of money. Which is an absurd amount of money. But in your head, you hear $100 million. Yeah. So then whenever you really start doing the math, it's like, you know, actually probably $35, $40 million is what he's actually making. Which is, by the way, that's enough money to retire forever. $35, $40 million. It's just like that goddamn Carl Nassib guy.

He's like, well, if you have one million dollars in your investment 10 percent he's putting his money in cds yeah ain't nobody making that money anymore you fucking idiot i almost lost my i must do something at the tv listening to this guy talk i'm like if it was only that easy carl if that was what everybody would do but yeah that's why and in my head i went in my head i have a number that I think I could get to and I'll be able to retire forever without having to invest with anybody

just being able to put myself on a yearly salary buy a house have a yearly salary keep it moving live forever that one fight he did with Floyd Mayweather

would definitely get me to that so I started boxing you know for like a week I'm joking I'm joking but it is a wild world it is a very very wild world and you just you kind of just you walk into the blender almost and it's like okay here we are and you also have to focus on being the best in the world at your job so now you have to worry about your family right because you got a

family you have to take care of that never could have guessed you were going to be here. Then you also have to worry about your job because if you don't worry about your job, you're going to get cut. None of this money is going to be there. And then in the offseason, you've got to deal with the family. It's just a – there needs to be a professional athlete course. There really needs to be a professional athlete course.

I don't know why there isn't. You've got all these colleges that are getting caught up in all these fraudulent corruption cases where they're giving people degrees they're giving you could actually do some good if we're not gonna if we're gonna give them fake degrees anyways why don't we at least give them a little bit of knowledge that they'll be interested in too by the way i think if you would have told me when i'm 18 years old and i never went to any fucking classes in college i did i just didn't because it was communication shit i have a very good memory so i would just cram shit in take the test pass i was on the all big east academic team

like four or five years straight almost four years straight never attended a class so it was a challenge to myself i really challenged myself but if you were to give me a course where somebody was going to come and be like okay this is what's going to happen if you make it to the league you're going to get this you're going to get this you could do this you could do that that'd be something i'd be very fucking interested in i think i think so because all right so in my head and i because i'm gonna ask you this i don't know what really exists in the nfl for this but in my head i would think that when the nfl a kid comes out of college and he's drafted by a team that That the NFL would take all the rookies and say, hey, there's a two-month thing you need to come to,

and it's basically schooling on how to be rich. Symposium. Yeah, does symposium cover any of this? Symposium's a three-day thing. But it's three days. Yeah, what are you going to learn in three days? Well, Andrew forced to be there. It's an obligation.

I don't think this is the NFL. I don't think this is an NFL thing. And Chris Carter's just yelling about you. Chris Carter's yelling at us. Well, Chris Carter yelled at my group because we didn't have enough respect for the older guys. And we're like, bro, we've been here for three days. Will you shut the fuck up?

I got a chance to talk to Chris later in my career, and I like Chris personally after talking to him. But boy, I hated him from that symposium on because somebody asked a question. It was like, Mr. Carter, how do we get respect in the locker room? Or how do people appreciate us? He was like, you know what's wrong with you?

And he just starts looking at the whole room. And we just got drafted like a week ago. And we're looking around. And this is our last speech after 72 hours of being yelled at by all these people. And he tells us, we don't respect anybody. I'm like, who the fuck? I know I i don't respect you get the fuck out of here the symposium though is supposed to be that but you take like a six-hour class on it's supposed to be a financial breakdown you know what i mean right i don't think the nfl is at fault here i i do believe it should just be a

replacement for your fucking college if somebody wants to go and be a chemist in college and they're a football player i think they should be able to do that if somebody wants to be uh whatever physiology whatever they want to get into you can do that but if you're just going to give a kid a basic ass major which every i think every school has if you look at all the football majors you look at the one that's the majority of it, that's the football major, basically, or the athlete major. Just substitute that one out with professional athlete. And even if they don't become a professional athlete, at least they have a little bit of a life lesson there.

Yeah. It should at least be an elective that's an option for you that you get college credit for, so you don't have to take fucking medieval fucking, you know, woodcraft. How many people in the NFL know, like how many of the players in the NFL know when they're like their 401k or pension vest? So we have that every year.

We have that meeting every single year. It's a 401k where a suit comes in and tells us basically like, hey, two to one match on your 401k. Does everyone want to max effort? Everybody want to max that? And it's always like, yup, yup, yup. And they're like, okay, here you go. When you're 49 here 59 a year you can

get taxed the whole thing that happens every single year the 401k conversation happens every single year but it's always all these meetings happen at the end of a 10 hour day so it's everybody's just trying to get out of it just like the NFL PA the way they slight of hand you through a whole conversation it's just like

back in the 30s guys guys were having to work with rats and then we saved the day the nflpa came in and saved the day it's just i do believe wholeheartedly in that professional athlete class mostly because i think i would have benefited greatly from it and i think there's a lot of people that would have. Well, the reason the military, I'm convinced, gives you free food and free lodging is because 70% of the people that they enlist spend their entire paycheck the first weekend after they get paid.

It's very hard not to. And you'd also die. And there's a chance of dying. Very big chance of dying in your line of work there whenever you came out. It's very hard not to. in your line of work there whenever you came out it's very hard not to yeah oh yeah uh you hear a lot of like hoity-toity people that are like these athletes shouldn't be spending their money then they should know that it doesn't last forever it's like it must

have been very nice to be born with a shit ton of money in your bank account and to know how to handle that because boy whenever you see a quick,000 in your bank account after just spending $600 at a bar one night and being like, that was a lot of fun, it's hard not to be like, man, I want to go to fucking, this is exactly what I did. I want to go to fucking Africa. I want to go to Europe. I would like to go to California.

I'd like to go to New York. I'd like to go to Miami. I don't know if I'm going to have this money forever, but I know I have it right fucking now, and I'm going to go ahead and do that. It's very hard not to do that. and you have to have discipline and this and that it's like yeah but bro have you ever seen a bank account go from 0.00 to oh the whole world is literally my fingertips that's not even just professional athletes that Nick's Nick's known

me for a long time even if you get a nice commission check, there's like seven, eight boxes at your door the next week. It's difficult not to. Unless you're one of the, I don't know how people, I worked with people who they were like, half of my commission goes into my savings. I was like, half of my commission goes to Amazon. I don't know. Like a stock option?

No, no, no. The issue is, though, this falls into that uh because you growing up you never think you're gonna have this problem yeah like growing up i never was like you know what now granted i've done very good with my money very excited about where my money is but if i didn't play until my third contract i don't think i would have i think i would have been completely i had to continue if i if my career would have stopped after year four which typically a guy's career does yes year three year four i would have been completely fucked but i get franchise tagged and then i get another contract

so i'm in a very good spot but it is something you never think of and there was moments there where i was coming back to training camp in my first couple years and i had like 10 000 bucks left basically out of everything from the year before like just waiting for the fucking game checks to come back there was times where I would like sit in my bed at night and be like you got to stop spending money man you have to stop doing what you're doing you have to and I wake up the next morning be like fuck it it would be very difficult it It's very, very difficult to be like, because money there. It's funny to hear that. Money's there to spend.

That's in my head. We do the same thing, just on a smaller scale. Yeah. It's all relative. Everything's relative. I mean, all of us sit there and think about things we want. If I had another $2,000, I would want this. I have a list.

And as soon as you get it, you spend it. I bought a black Escalade the day after I was drafted because my entire life i said if i ever get rich i'm buying a black escalade and then literally the day after i was drafted i bought a black escalade had no money in my bank account zero money in my bank account i thought the signing bonus was going to come immediately it did not it didn't come for three months so i had to literally walk into the bank numerous times with a news article telling them i just signed for this i promise if you could just delay this my dad's like pat you're gonna give me fucking credit ruined because he had to co-sign with me i'm like i i'm sorry dad i thought we were rich i really i thought we did this and we were not it was just you don't expect that type

of shit you walked with a news article yeah yeah the bank. I literally have a list in my notes. Wish list, win, have money again. What's the number one thing on there? New car. What car? I don't know. Just a car. Depends on how much money I have when I have money.

And here's the thing. You have a very nice car. Yeah, yeah. But you always want a different. Yeah, that's it. Well, you brought up a good point, too. I always forget that NFL players are paid game checks. You're not getting money in the offseason. No.

So your last game check, whatever you got there, you've got to hold on to that until the next fall. So the next game in training camp, preseason, you're getting like $150 a week, basically. All players are getting like $300, I think, is the vet. And then the rookies are getting like $150. Really? You're like a teacher.

Go do landscaping this summer. Yes. So you're playing in these preseason games. These preseason games, guys are getting like a few hundred bucks. Everybody. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. Can you opt out of your pay?

Like do like a year-round pay? No. You have to do game check. No, it's game check. And some guys go – I mean, some teams I think they do. I think there's a couple teams that go year-round. I believe there's a couple teams that go year-round. I'm not certain, but it's all about how the team wants to pay you. It's not

your decision. It's how the team wants to pay you. It's probably better for the team for you to get game checks, too. I'll tell you what. After that Super Bowl, my rookie year, we get out of the Super Bowl and we lose. I look at my bank statement, and I'm like, man, I got, what, four months off right now? And I'm just staring at my bank statement. I'm like,

time to go fucking spend it. This might be a dumb question, too. So, like, if you make it to the playoffs, that's a game check as well. But someone that's not in the playoffs doesn't get a game check? Playoff checks are all the same. So it's agreed upon. If you make it to the Super Bowl, it's like everybody earns an extra $150,000. Gotcha.

So it's the first check, I think. I don't remember the numbers. But if you make it to the Super Bowl, everybody gets the same check. So playoff checks are all the same for the entire team. Your salary is all finished by 17th week. So, then playoff checks are all the exact same. So, teams really gain ground by making the playoffs, going far into the playoffs because their expenses are down.

Home field. Each game, but they're making probably more. Home field is huge because then you get all the stadium sales. Wow. Yeah, all the merch, all that shit. Yeah, it's huge. Well, you might be saving a million dollars a check on certain players. So my rookie year, when we made the Super Bowl,

me and Dwight Freeney were being paid the exact same amount of money for the playoffs there. Wow. The exact same amount of money, which is wild to think about. Because the first 17 weeks, I think he made 45 times what I made. 45, I think it was. was it's one of those and i think baseball does the same thing playoffs everybody makes the same yeah i think all sports everything's slotted so if you have home field in the playoffs as a business huge absolutely huge

to have because yeah if you're going on the road you're not getting stadium revenue or anything like that and if it's a hundred thousand dollars a player times 53 players. Well, that's if you make the Super Bowl. That's four or five games. But you're still getting TV checks, I assume. By week, if you get the first week by week, you don't get paid, I don't think. So if you are the number one seed, I don't think you get paid. Really? I would have to.

Yeah, man, we don't want that buy. We don't want that buy. Everybody wants that buy. Everybody wants that buy. Yeah, I don't think you do. I'm trying to figure out in my head if we did. Yeah, I don't think you do. I'm trying to figure out in my head if we did or not. I don't think we did. Do you get paid in the bye in the regular season?

Yes. You get paid because that's your salary. But the playoff bonus is I don't think you get paid for the bye. Only if you play, you get paid. Which I guess they can justify. I guess they can justify that. Not really. No.

Yeah. But I guess you still practice. It's kind of justify that. Not really. No. Yeah. But I guess you still practice. It's kind of like a Zito thing. Like, yeah, we get it. You know what I mean? Yeah, we get it. But it's, yeah, the money thing is very, and this is probably the least relatable conversation

we've ever had on this show. But I think it should be because, honestly, when you just get dropped into like that fucking duck on that gif like what's that who's that when it jumps into the goal I think it is Scrooge McDuck

that's literally what it feels like it's like well what the fuck am I going to do now it's like well I'd like those shoes for sure that car I want to go see that for sure it's funny too because like if you're not in that situation you're gonna say oh yeah save your money but then you put yourself in that situation you're buying everything you can it's impossible i got so sick of people telling me to like you need to save your money i'm like i hear you i absolutely hear what you're saying but i would like you to wake up one morning

uh look in your bank account and then get a text message from somebody that's like yo it's going down in miami tonight you in and i'm like i can definitely make it i can definitely go i'll see you there or getting a text hey somebody's birthday is weekend in pittsburgh you want to come back for it ah yeah yeah i do yeah i do and it's hard not to just be like you know what i'll buy everything for everybody because I am grossly overpaid right now. I know I'm looking at a bunch of people that still have college student loan debts. It's hard not to just be like, you know what? I'll buy everything for everybody because that's what you're supposed to do. In those first couple of years of my life, that's where the money was going.

It was like we had a great time that I will never forget ever or remember some of them, never remember some of them but it was like that was the it's like this is what you're supposed to do and it's very difficult to be like yeah okay I'll just save my money oh you know what I'll go out you guys were splitting the bill though like who's the douchebag that goes like yeah I'll pay for my drinks but not yours like nobody nobody's gonna because you google you know exactly how much money I have in my bank account. It's like, why would you not do it?

That was like the time we went to the mall. You wanted to buy everyone a pair of $500 red shoes. I was like, you know, we can get like Nikes for like 50 bucks a pop. They don't have to be 500 a pop.

Nick, you were a voice of reason in a lot of situations, but for me, it was always like, why not though? Why not? This is what we're supposed to do. Why not? Do you get the mentality as well?

So like, like Wiz Khalifa says, like you live, like life's too short. Well, so there's two, though why not this is what we're supposed to do why not the mentality as well so like like what's kalifa says like uh like you live like life's too short well so there's two there's so many quotes and i have a full i've told i think i've said this before it's like all these life mottos are all hypocritical of each other it's like patience is a virtue right be patient be patient be patient and then there's the live as if you're gonna die tomorrow it's like well that fucks over patience and that just is a complete see you later to patience so it's it's for me i just i honestly just try to make what's the right decision in the moment what is the thing that everybody's gonna have the best time with and then just keep it moving we'll deal with everything

tomorrow but i got very lucky that i played eight eight years. Let's make sure that is known. There is a definite thing that makes athletes different when you're an athlete and that's your job because you think, all right, take the playoff pay schedule that you just explained, for instance. Let's say a guy makes $35 an hour. He's been at Ford for a long time. And that Ford plant, his boss is like, hey, we're having a really good year this year,

so we're going to work three to four more weeks than usual, and you're going to make like a tenth of what you're used to making an hour to do that. It's like the opposite, right? Yeah. It's like, oh, I'm going to make less for working overtime now. Yeah, but the thought is the difference in the Ford plant is there's a Super Bowl ring potential at the end. So the athlete is into the prestige and he has to be a winner.

Dwight Freeney though, and I always think about Dwight Freeney because at one point he was making a million dollars a week, right? So for 17 weeks he made a million dollars a week and we were only playing him on third downs sometimes. He even knew that it was bullshit. He was not happy with how much he was

playing. He wanted to be on the field more. The new regime didn't want... It was a very interesting situation. Dwight Freeney, one of the best teammates I've ever had in my entire life. I've told the story numerous times of him sending a limo to come pick me up. I don't know where he was the night I got arrested. But he is a very good teammate. Took me in under his wing.

Very good guy. Played cards with him. Very, very good guy. And me in under his wing. Very good guy. Played cards with him. Very, very good guy. And he was making a million dollars a week. His game check was a million dollars a week, and we weren't even playing him. And then we get to the playoffs, and he's like, this is what it's all about, though.

You watch these guys be like, this is what it's all about. I'm like, bro, I know you're taking a $900,000 hit a week here. You're taking a $9 thousand dollar hit a week here you're taking a nine hundred and fifty thousand dollar a week hit and it's just like at that point a probably already has enough money they don't have to worry about it sure before knowing that somebody's stealing all this money and b it's like a real thing though for athletes they're like this is this is playoffs this matters yeah i guess that's the difference because i difference. It could be argued that you played for the Colts, but that was your Ford.

They were your employer. Yes, for sure. But it's interesting that since it's athletics... In the situation you laid out, that's why they had the unions to establish overtime pay and all that. But then when Pat says you get the prestige, but getting a Super Bowl ring isn't even just prestige. He always says it's like a key.

That gets you into a lot of situations that you would never be in. If we would have won that... Congratulations to Drew Brees. NFL's rigged for him. Very proud of you, Drew. Way to go. Piece of paper in the middle of the game.

The whole thing. Drew Brees, incredible human, incredible athlete. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. If I have a Super Bowl ring, though, you can get in at any business meeting you want. You can walk into Goldman Sachs if you want and get into a meeting. It's just that access with the Super Bowl ring. And you're a Super Bowl champion, which is top of the world,

which everybody feels that way, you know? So that is what the Super Bowl ring gets you. And that's what everybody's playing for is for that. And the money, of course. And the money of course and the money a vet was asked by one of our new coaches he played in the league a long time and the new coach was given a speech in training camp and there's always these rah-rah things you know and it's he calls out the vet i will call the vet um zach we'll call it zach it wasn't his name we'll

make up the name. Name was Zach. And this vet coach, he came straight out of college. So he's giving this college hoorah bullshit. And I'm in year six or seven at this point. And we're about past all the college bullshit. But for the younger guys it works. So we just have to sit there and take

this bullshit. And just be like, bro, shut the fuck up is what everybody's thinking. But for the younger kids, it's getting them riled up. Like, hey, you're living a dream. Blah, blah, blah. It's like, yeah, we are. And I would also like to go to sleep or just work. Like, this is all talk.

Let's not do it. So he goes through his whole thing about how you got to love the game, which you do, by the way. If you want to be great, you have to love what you're doing, the passion. You got to do this. You got to do that. You got to be willing to do the extra extra stuff it was all good you know go over every inch matters just like the any given sunday this guy thought he was giving an any given sunday speech it was

his first time really speaking in front of the team it was a big moment chuck let him talk you know so he he towards the end of it he goes to the vet. He goes, hey, Zach. And Zach was not prepped for this, right? And Zach was in the same, probably the same mental state that me and all the other vets were in. Like, bro, shut the fuck up. And he goes, hey, Zach. And Zach's like, yeah. And he goes, why do you still play the game?

And he was like, the checks don't bounce, cuz. It completely fucked up the entire speech the guy had going that it ain't about the money. It ain't about this. It ain't about that. Why do you still play after all these years? Checks don't bounce, cuz. And then everybody, I started dying laughing. All the vets started laughing.

Chuck Pagano basically kicked the coach coach off and was like I should have gave Jack a head jump it was awesome I loved it so much it's probably my favorite training camp moment hey why do you still play checks don't bounce cuz

okay I'm just gonna go ahead and walk it the fuck off it was awesome it's a wild conversation we had today yeah yeah never would have guessed that this you never know where it's gonna go in here a lot of prep a lot of prep that's what I learned about like going in and watching Jim Rome and Rich Eisen and these folks the amount of prep they put into shows I understand why they're professionals well they also have to coordinate graphics and things like that I mean if we were Rich Eisen and these folks, the amount of prep they put into shows, I understand why they're professionals. Well, they also have to coordinate graphics and things like that.

I mean, if we were also on TV, maybe a little bit more. I'm sure we would, yeah. Certainly would. Put the graphic up already. Hey, did we make a graphic for this? I enjoy just letting her fly, though. Yeah, yeah. Because who knows where it's going? Yeah, I like not knowing where, yeah. Because who knows where it's going?

Yeah. I like not knowing where it's going. Who knows where it's going? To be honest, I think that's the purpose of it. Now, granted, we ran our serious show exactly the same way. Yeah. Here you go. I think people like that.

They like the spontaneity of it. Somebody tweeted about yesterday, because yesterday we went from, we were talking about the colorblind issue or whatever, straight into cauliflower mashed potatoes, part of the keto diet. There was no transition. I'm back on keto. I'll tie it all together for you. This article just popped up on Pro Football Talk. Shad Khan's exploring the tax

implications of playing in London because he's purchasing Wembley Stadium, but basing the team in Jacksonville. Florida, no state income tax. So he wants to keep the team headquartered in Jacksonville but play the home games in London. Why the fuck my company in Delaware? Little Dicky.

Yep. Little Dicky says that. You start to learn about these states, Texas, Florida, Nevada. You start to learn about these states that are just like perfect places if you ever want to move and place your company there. Now, granted, there's no football team in Delaware, but same type of thing. Taxes are a bitch.

That's why whenever I hear people get in trouble for tax evasion or whatever, it's like I understand everybody wants to hate them because it's like, oh, you rich fucks just pay your taxes. But boy, there was a lot of times I was trying to figure out how to evade mine. And Phil was like, you can't fucking write off your 70-inch TV, Pat.

You can't. For film. Actually, you can, though. Yeah, but you're just asking to get, Pat. You can't. Actually, you can though. Yeah, but you're just asking to get audited. Phil was one of the most stickler accountants I think probably in the NFL. He yelled at me for writing off my sword.

That's because you know what you're doing. You're shutting yourself up to just a fucking miserable situation where I had guys that I played with that were writing off their Jordans because they said they were training in them and their computers and their TV because they're watching film

all these things. That's legal. Is it? Yeah. You're basically just throwing flags like a challenge flag at the IRS. Go ahead. I dare you. I dare you. And then when that audit comes you better have your fucking shit tight and it's just like are you are we willing to go through that and phil was

like no we are not you're just gonna fucking pay them and then we'll get a big return and then we just keep it moving that's just him he doesn't want to do the work on an audit that could be it as well that could be it as well i think i'm in irs hell for the next four years probably i because last year they hit me with a i owed a bunch of money but for me it was a bunch of money and then so i was an accountant and i'm like well uh i guess i'm gonna set up a payment plan or whatever and she's like yeah just come in and we'll fill out the the extension we'll go over it and then i was like hey i didn't because I had to file early because of my son's scholarship, I didn't do my K-1s,

which show your profit or loss from a business, from the comedy clubs. Lost my ass in the comedy clubs. So I was like, hey, let's add the K-1. And it canceled out what I was supposed to pay them because of my losses. But now you know what the IRS is going to be like. They're looking to get that back.

You think he's fucking slick? All right, let's dissect this shit. That's all they're paid to do, by the way, is to take money away from you. That's their entire gig. And the tax law is like, it's the Bible. It's thick as the Bible. There's just things on top of things on top of things.

And as a child, you never think about it. You never think about taxes. And you think about how the lights stay on on the streets. You don't think about it. You never think about taxes. You think about how the lights stay on on the streets. You don't think about that. Unless they're using IBM Watson to catch me. I'm not worried. IBM Watson. All right, let's hit some things real quick.

The first poster of Disney's live-action Aladdin movie came out yesterday. It's scheduled to come out on October 24th. Who's excited? I am, because isn't Will Smith playing the genie? He is. I'm all in. Not my job. Vern Troyer's death ruled suicide by alcohol intoxication.

That's a thing? Well, if you're a little person and you probably chug a fifth. Yeah, it said that he overdosed on alcohol pretty much. Is that suicide? I think it was pretty well known, yeah, that he was masking some other stuff with his alcohol abuse. No, no, I get that, but like... Paul Bull.

If I went out this weekend... I'm sorry. No, no, that's fine. Did you watch Bull? I keep forgetting to record it. This Bull was good. This one was good. Tuesday's Bull episode, maybe the best one yet.

Good, I haven't recorded it. It was a... It's a spin. Bull's Bull episode, maybe the best one yet. Good. Have it recorded. It's a spin. Bull's so smart, man. He is. He's so smart. It's hard to remember that he writes the show, right? That the show is written.

His mid-show, I actually said, oh, he's so fucking smart. I said it out loud. It is the greatest show. It is so good. Wait until you see it. It has all the hot topics, too. All the trigger button topics really oh yeah race is involved police officer is involved white police officer is involved a gun is involved shooting of an unarmed black man is involved wow they hit everything oh it hit everything it hit everything the city trying to have a settlement and then

it was it was good I was like bull coming through so I met with CAA right yeah

and they gave me a motion picture agent as well like an acting agent sure yeah his name's Avi this guy's a go-getter

I think Avi his name's Avi Ray Donovan he's a I didn't know he's a fixer yeah he's a fixer well let's hope this guy's israeli special forces yes let's hope let's hope the guy's obvi obvi was awesome

though he used a lot of energy because he's the one who heard about the captain america captain america thing he was like there's actually a process here like granted you could just blow it up with a mob on the internet basically if you'd like but if we really want to do this i was like i know i'm not gonna be captain america he's like why why do you know you're not gonna be captain america like that he's like there's a process here though we got to get through now great if you suck it's not gonna happen but if you have any chops at all there's a chance because this building we have here is pretty powerful one we could potentially get you in there and i'm like uh he's like sounds good fuck i forgot what i was going to talk about oh he said what yeah he said what are some shows

that you like that we can get you some guest roles in because this is a way to do it we get you some guest roles and stuff and then they kind of get you on tape and then they see you then they keep moving what are some shows you like i was like bull and he was like bull the. And he was like, Bull, the Dr. Phil show? I was like, also, Dr. Phil, love that show. Chrisley's no best. Chrisley knows best. Get some periods on that show. He was like, so Bull is the number one show? I was like, have you ever watched Bull?

He was like, no. I'm like, you need to watch Bull. It's the greatest show of all time. He was like, so you want to be like a drama actor? I was like, no. But there has to be a way that i could get in there and be an action comedic guy isn't there he's like in bull i was like there has to be a way those writers are good enough aren't they he was like okay so

bull give me a list of shows that you think your brand would be good uh no i'm still trying to figure it out you should definitely tell them something like dann Danny McBride-ish, like as far as... Well, I kind of want to be... I think I could be an action comedy guy. Right? I think I could be the Caucasian Rock. I honestly think I could do that. Chris Pratt, Mark Wahlberg kind of have it on lock.

Yeah. I think I could kind of chime in and be the third. I think I could get in there. I think I would have something... Those movies pay very well. Very well. Especially, I told Avi too that I know the game. We got to get in with China.

We got to get in with the Chinese mob because that's where The Rock is making hundreds of millions of dollars every single movie. The Yokoso. I think that's Japan. Yakuza. Yakuza. Is that China? Yakuza is Japanese.

That's Japan, yeah. Don't say the same thing. The Tyrants. Triads. We're trying to get in with the China. Don't say the same thing. I didn't say it to get it With the Chinese Don't say the same thing I didn't say it Yeah you did

I heard you say it Well I was watching Rush Hour Last night So I was a little off So good If you could bring Jun Tao back to life And fucking get him

Jackie Chan knew How to work the Chinese network Yes Like nobody You know who didn't Bruce Lee That's why his ass is dead And his kid

Dead From the Chinese mafia Which I would like To let them know Bruce Lee and his kid, dead. From the Chinese mafia. Which I would like to let them know, Bruce Lee and his kid deserve the Chinese mafia, if you're listening. Yep. I very much, I'm on your side here.

Will Smith knows how to work the Chinese mafia. Got Jane Smith into the new Karate Kid. Yep. That's what I'm, we gotta, because your movie can be terrible, but the Chinese mafia will literally force people to go by and watch it. So it's like, cool, The Rock is going to make hundreds of millions. It was terrible.

It was. It's documented. Check it out. It did well in China. Crushed. The Karate Kid. Yep. Nick was just behind it.

You backing that up? You got numbers? No. If it's in the Chinese... And fuck you, Diggs. Whose side are you on, you flip-flopping bastard? You don't deserve what Nick just did right there. The side that I get paid for.

Not at all. Cowards. Tomorrow I'll be on the other side. Flip-flop. But that is really happening right now. I got a list of acting coaches in Hollywood that I'm going to Skype act class with. No way happening right now i got a list of acting coaches in hollywood that i'm going to skype act class with no way yeah there's a list of them bro he sent me a fucking list of them it was like go ahead and read through these we'll set you up on a couple

skype dates with them see who you vibe with we record these uh i've heard it's like a very private thing i heard it's like a he told me it's going to be like a meeting with a psychologist basically because that's the big thing is like it's like a it's like a, he told me it's going to be like a meeting with a psychologist, basically, because that's the big thing. It's like a very deep thing to have you do weird shit, he said, but you've got to get through it. You're about to get this Hollywood juice. The who? The secret juice. Hold on, let me, oh, the Hollywood juice.

You're about to get this. You said halibut, like the fish. That's what I heard. That's what I thought. Is there something I don't know about? You just suck on a halibut for a half hour? The halibut juice the fish. That's what I heard. That's what I thought. Is there something I don't know about? You just suck on a halibut for a half hour and you're younger?

Is what you said. Can we replay that back? Yeah. Don't do it. We can't. I'm trying to think of shows you, because I don't watch

network TV very much anymore, but I used to enjoy like anything with Kevin James in it. I think you and Kevin James play off each other well. Billy Gardell. I love Kevin James in it. I think you and Kevin James play off each other well. Billy Gardell.

I love Kevin James. I love Kevin James. I love him. I love him in Hitch. I love him in everything. Our buddy Frat does an incredible Kevin James impersonation. You should be on that new Lethal Weapons series. I've thought that since it came out.

They haven't found a guy to play Mel Gibson's character, and I think you'd be pretty good in that. I think you in Game of Thrones would be good,, and I think you'd be pretty good in that. I think you in Game of Thrones would be good, too. I'm out. That's already done filming, too. Hawaii Five-0. So there's one, though, where it's an African-American neighborhood and a white family moves in.

It's coming out. It's an old black comedian. His family, he hates the white guy. Oh, I fuck. Hates the white guy. That's the trailers are all like, this guy basically dealing with this super peppy white guy. It's Cedric the Entertainer, right?

I don't know. Or David Alan Greer. It's one of those. I don't know, but they're going to attack race relations at a very hilarious, I would like to be a part of that show. David Alan Greer does have a show coming out. His is like a retirement home show. Oh, okay.

So it's not that one. Yeah, I think it's the Cedric the Entertainer one. That's a show, though, that I think I would enjoy a lot is the race relations. Just strictly because I've been in a locker room where race relations are at an all-time high. I will say that. And I feel like I was a pretty avid character in the locker room. How about the Connors? Would you go on the Connors now if they're bringing that out without Roseanne?

They're looking for new people. I don't know. Trying to get a good ensemble going. I don't know what the Connors are. So Roseanne got screwed. She screwed herself, right? Yeah, Ambien. So they canceled Roseanne.

And now they're bringing it back as the Connors with the rest of the cast. And they've added a couple new people. I've taken a lot of Ambien by the way. Not a one time have I ever told any of my black friends anything racist. What a stupid fucking move by her. She was on top of the world, literally.

18 million viewers. Yeah. The show was killing it. Maybe the Ambien was like spoiled. Like milk? I think maybe she was spoiled. So there's these acting coaches I got sent. Okay. And it goes acting coach's name, location, and then clients they have worked with.

Next to it, Will Smith's acting coach is on here. I'm like, give me that one. Zach Efron's acting coach is on here. Jared Leto's acting coach is on here. Jared Leto's acting coach is on here. That's a good one, right? Because Will Smith's acting coach has got to suck, right? See what I did there, Nick?

He's on the flop now. Unbelievable. Ashton Kutcher's coach. Gerard Butler's coach. Oh, that's Will Smith's coach. See what I just did right there to you? Yeah, I knew what you were going to say. That's not how it works, though. Gerard Butler has two coaches.

See? Wow. He has two. You don't have one. For an English accent and one for his British accent. If you have two, you don't have one. That's like a running back thing. If you have two running backs, you don't have one.

If you have two quarterbacks, you don't have one. But all these different acting coaches, I'm supposed to set up a kelsey grammars coaches on here pretty good he's good all these i'm supposed to set up like a skype date and i think i'm i'm gonna become an actor i have a list of the highest i'm gonna hate it aren't i no you're gonna be fine yeah you're gonna hate it there's a lot of work i don't like kissing the ring yeah there it is what i've realized i don't enjoy doing i think that's what I learned most in the Hollywood world that I went out there, is I don't enjoy kissing the ring. I get it, you're a person of power, but

I just sell merch on my website. I don't give a fuck about you. I have a list of the highest grossing US films in China. To get the genre right, so you know what you got to do. Because I would like to be huge in China, just for future reference. 2017, $2.6 billion.

The Fate of the Furious. 2015, $2.4 billion. Furious 7. Avengers Infinity War, Transformers, and Jurassic World. Those are the five highest franchises, baby. Paul Walker, you got to take over his cut. Popcorn movies.

I want to be Captain America pretty bad though Transformers is huge over there you combine robots and cars that's a key Wahlberg's about due to step out no way have you seen him

Transformers he looks ripped still to this day cause you've seen his schedule he wakes up at 3am yeah but I think for the Transformers series

I can see him like he has so much other shit going on I don't think he's been in Transformers in a while. What is... No, he was in the last one. No, he was.

He's also making like 30 million a movie for those, so it's kind of hard to step away from that. Didn't the director say that they're going to make Transformers every year? Yeah, that's the plan. I've seen Shia LaBeouf's Transformers. That's a good one. Yeah, he was in the first two, and then they got rid of him, and Wahlberg's been in like the last three.

So Marky Wahlberg is Shia LaBe yeah yeah different different character yeah uh josh dumel's still in it as well i believe and therese therese when megan fox left i was done therese is in fast and furious right and uh also transformers yeah he was crying on the internet right therese when paul walker passed away. No. Because him and The Rock. Because he didn't have any money, too. It's tough to be in two of the biggest movie franchises in the world and be broke.

Yeah. That's tough. Listen, let's not judge him. We just had a full conversation. We just had a full conversation. We don't know. Listen. Yeah, but you had one job. He had two.

Yeah, and my job wasn't being a quarterback either. It was bottom of the pay scale on that thing. Let's assume that if I get into a movie, that we're all going to have a really good time with it. Let's assume that's the case. I would love it. Eagles at Giants tonight. Diggs, a couple quick picks here before we talk to Rich Eisen.

Yeah, I got the Jets minus two and a half at home against the Colts. Okay. Cleveland plus two at home. Jets minus two and a half at home against the Colts. Okay. Cleveland plus two at home. Jets minus two and a half at home versus the Colts? Yeah. I think that's a tough one there. Okay. Offensive lineman for the Colts, by the way, playing with a broken spine.

That's a wild move. I don't know how that happens. This goes back to people judging NFL doctors, by the way. Because whenever you go to your doctor, you're literally telling them what is hurting, what is happening. The reason why I'm here is, oh, my pinky hurts. So they look at your pinky and they're like, yeah, it does. You're right. In the NFL, everybody's lying to the doctors at

all times. I would assume that's what happened in this particular case. Oh, my back hurts. I think it just needs cracked. Well, it already is. It turns out. You can't really. Jets minus two and a half versus Colts is a wild move. Is it? I think the Colts, I honestly think the Colts

potentially, this is against a rookie quarterback. I think the defense will be able to keep up with the rookie quarterback. And I think this is a situation where luck could possibly get hot. Is Doyle still out? There's a lot of injuries on that Colts. And Mack and Wilkins, are they still out?

I don't know who those people are. All right, who else? So Cleveland plus two at home against the Chargers. LA minus seven against the Broncos. Tennessee plus three at home. Home dogs against the Ravens. And New England minus three against the Chiefs. Beautiful.

Great bets. Go to mybookie.ag. Go ahead and take all of their fucking money. I assume you're going the other way. No Doyle, no Hilton on Sunday. Okay. Well, there you go. Good bet. Everything I just said.

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Yo, what's up, brother? I thank you so much for joining us. You ready to do this thing? I am. Let's do it. Ladies and gentlemen, the man joining us now is the voice of the NFL. He's do it. show. He's the host of NFL Game Day on NFL Network. He's a man from Michigan. He has a great personality, a great voice, and right now he's rocking an

incredible beard. Rich Eisen! Thank you. Hey, Pat. Pat, I'm sorry to say I lost you after he was the first voice of the NFL Network. Could you start from the beginning?

I'll tell you what, Rich. I don't do a lot of prep. I have no clue what I just said. Once the words come out, they're never remembered. Well, I'll just check the transcript later. I mentioned this earlier. In your green room, you have the letter. I think it was from Paul Tagliabue asking for you to –

were you the first on-air hire of the NFL Network? I was. What a... I was the first on-air hire, yeah, in 2003. Okay, you're still there 15 years later, still doing your thing

on an everyday basis. Is the NFL Network the premier league network across all professional leagues you know what i i i'll leave that up to others to to decide you know mlb network to get truly inside in the industry they win all the emmy awards it's it's something that they uh they get every year um you know the the nfl network it took a long time for us to get fully distributed. There were all sorts of arguments back and forth between cable stations.

All I know is that when it comes down to what I'm doing, the draft and the combine and the Sunday morning show, and that sort of stuff, I'll put that up

against anybody with whatever anybody does in the business we're really proud of it and you know like this is year 16 it's kind of crazy season 16 for for the network i absolutely love the nfl network i love the traffic you're in the middle of don't get hit over there um i just gotta give someone ak you know what i mean i gotta be honest with you you know um i don't mean to to car shame anybody but is it me or do on average a prius driver goes 10 miles an hour too slow anywhere on the road that's the type of hold. Hold on. When I was on my bird scooter, I was passing Priuses in California, and I had this rhyme. I was like, a lot of Priuses in California, bitch,

driving around looking like a bunch of beta shit. I made an entire rap song about Priuses because there's a lot of those. And you were going faster than them. Yes. You were going faster than your bird. Because there's a lot of those. And you were going faster than them. Yes. You were going faster than your bird. Because there's a lot of Priuses in California, not that much here. You live in California full time.

You're based out of, right by the LAX airport, you have an incredible studio. That DirecTV deal you have is incredible. Your show, every single day, three hours, you crush. Then you have the weekends where you're up at 4 a.m. for the 6 a.m. call time. The Rich Eyes, are you ever going to slow down, Rich? I don't want to say you're getting old, but your schedule's insane.

There's a non-playing season that comes up in February, and when that happens, I don't work on the weekends and get to be a dad all the time as much as I can. But I love doing it. I mean, you were here. and as much as I can. But I love doing it. I mean, you were here.

I mean, there's not many shows that afford what we did. You know, it's kind of like what we did was like a podcast, but with cameras on us and commercials and live reads. You know, you were there for an hour. We talked anything about anything that, you know, was safe for work to talk about on a broadcast show. And it was great. It was a total blast. I'm pleased to let you know that the walls are still standing after your...

My security entry card still works. So things are looking up. Things are looking up. Well, I thank you for having me on. Your walls are littered with photos of in-studio guests that you've had. Everybody from Adam Sandler to NFL Hall of Famers. What has been a conversation that you got to have that in the middle that you might have been like, yeah, wow, it's insane that I get to have this conversation right now?

Oh, man. Let me think. now oh man let me think um right off the top of my head we had matt matthew mcconaughey came on once and told the story of of how he came up with the phrase all right all right all right what was it and confused um he he said that you know it was his character wooderson and um it was the scene you know where he's in the car and he's like putting himself in the shoes of what Wooderson would have thought back in the day. And he had his car and he had his chicks and he had his music. And those are the three things. All right.

All right. All right. And I'm listening to this and I'm thinking to myself, this is the coolest thing ever. And that's the thing I also love too is, you know, I mean, it's not straight sports. You know, I may

not last the longest or get the most clicks. Although having you on certainly helped on that front. You're a very popular man, Patrick. I'll tell you that. Only on the internet, not in real life. No, no, no, no.

But that's the future. Don't kid yourself. I appreciate that. I mean, I'm able to talk pop culture, and that's the thing I really like doing, too. Somebody might drive around on a sports talk radio station and wants to be informed on the latest of a certain team or wants to get inflamed and get angry over an opinion.

That's not what I do. So I just love having those conversations. To me, I think that that does work in the sports world, too. I mean, we stopped the America's largest sporting event for a rock concert in the middle and nobody bats an eyelash, you know. So that's the idea that behind the show. And, you know, we're four years old now. Well, I think you have a lot. You have a good crew over there, by the way. A lot of fun.

It's a cool stuff. Yeah, it's a cool set, everything like that. Let's talk about NFL now. Let's talk about a little bit of sports here. Drama is at an all-time high in the NFL world. All-time high. Every little thing is blown out of proportion. Whether it's Odell Beckham, Le'Veon Bell, Antonio Brown, Dak Prescott, everything is just drama, drama, drama.

Is this something you think that the NFL loves or hates? Because it's always the topic of conversation. There's always incredible athletes doing incredible things, but off the field it's like a reality TV show on a regular basis. Is that good or bad for the NFL? I think it depends, to be honest with you. The spell-my-name-right PR strategy is not really what the NFL is looking for. But having drama, like holdouts and drama, like calling out your coaches and whatnot, whatnot. I don't think the NFL was too thrilled about Odell going off on his own with Lil Wayne sitting next to him having a conversation on ESPN. I don't think they were too thrilled about that.

But I might be wrong. I don't know. Jimmy Butler's certainly doing a good job of blowing the NFL off of sports pages over the last 24, 36 hours. The NBA is really becoming that much more popular. But when it all comes down to it, when you put a sporting event on television for everyone to sit down and watch, the NFL is still the gold standard. And as long as that's the case, I think the NFL just wants to keep making sure

that the viewing product is as watchable as ever and get as much of the attention as they possibly can get without drama, if I could guess. You have a position at the NFL Network where you've got a chance to work with so many Hall of Famers. The NFL Network's lineup of gold jackets is

next level. I mean, Hall of Fame night, you were sitting on a dais, so I think with eight Hall of Famers all with their jackets on surrounding you. It is... And that's a day where you make a very specific decision. There's no way I should go

with a light-colored suit. In past years, I decided to go with a light-colored suit, and, you know, it's not the same color as their jackets, and I think I stuck out a little bit more trying to blend in. But these are just, again, as you're now getting more and more part of the paparazzi, these are decisions that sometimes you don't expect to make and you've got to make the right one.

Do you have a favorite suit? You know what? There's a couple of go-tos that I've got. I've got a blue one I like a lot. Sometimes I go a little pinstripe. Other times I just go to work and I just grab whatever's the first thing that's clean. That a boy. Like back in college. That a lot. Sometimes I go a little pinstripe. Other times I just go to work and I just grab whatever is the first thing that's clean. Atta boy.

It's like back in college. Atta boy. Rich, speaking of that, yesterday you had a glorious sweater on. Was that cashmere? Oh, look at that. Was it cashmere? Yes, it was. Oh!

It was nice looking. I was like, Rich, show it out. Yeah. Yeah, it was. It was cashmere, man. So I've got that going for me. I take requests, you know. Was your For the Brand shirt cashmere?

Because that looked pretty damn good, too. It's definitely a tri-blend. Definitely a tri-blend. It feels good on the nipples. Yours should be arriving within the next two weeks. Those get shipped from Latvia. The rare polyester cashmere combo. Tonight, Eagles-Giants.

Who do you got? I was thinking about that today, because I've got to pick this game in the next 12 hours, and I'm like, I have no idea. I could totally see the end of this week where there are three 2-4 teams and the Redskins are in front at 2-3 in this division. That is a total possibility. I just think the Eagles are the better team.

They're the better team. They're better equipped. They have the pass rush that could create the problems for the Giants that have been the Achilles heel for this team the first five weeks of the season. That said, it's a short week, and Lane Johnson might not be ready to go tonight, which is a huge loss for them. This is a total coin flip, man, and I do not have that answer for you right now.

If I had to guess, I would just say it's the Giants at home, and they'll get it done in a short week. I don't know. There's a lot of drama coming off of that Sunday with Odell. A lot of drama coming off of that Sunday with Odell. A lot of drama. Did you hear, though, that they played Uproar by Lil Wayne during their

first four songs practice on Tuesday. So they're already having fun with it and moving on and turning the page. At least that's what they're showing when the press is showing off that they're blacked in Lil Wayne.

I don't know what the hell to make of this stuff anymore. I ain't showing up to the White House today. I mean, what the hell? I honestly don't know what's happening in this world anymore. Do they ever ask you for opinions, the NFL, the league, on whether or not how the refs act, the challenge stuff, from an entertainment standpoint, being the first? I will get on occasion when I do see the commissioner,

he will ask, you know, what are people talking about? You know, what's going on? He will say that, you know, and I'll give him exactly what people are lighting up the phone lines about. I will always give my two cents on officiating. I thought the tuck rule was garbage. I thought the catch rule was worse. And, you know, I'm glad that whatever they did, you know, midweek,

a couple weeks ago to talk about disrupting the passer penalty stuff, they've clearly fixed obviously the occasional WTF call will get through, like the Michael Bennett hitting Kirk Cousins and sliding down his legs

call. That type of stuff will still get through, but the football like J.J. Watt flat out de-leted Dak Prescott and landed on top, like the power of every Watt who plays in the NFL landed on top of Dak Prescott, and there was no flag. So I think that they have, they've fixed that. And those are the things that, to me, really inflame a fan base

and make them think that it's not the NFL that they're used to anymore. The helmet rule, I think, has been absolutely properly applied. There's been some crazy-ass hits that have led to ejections that I think every last one of them was warranted. So those are the things that, you know, I'm always going to get my opinion on. And, you know, I think I told you this story, but if I didn't, if I did, I'll repeat it anyway. But before I started, I guess to come full circle here, when I started with the NFL Network, you know, I left ESPN, and there was like a two, three-month period in between leaving ESPN and moving out to L.A.

So right in the middle of it, I got a call from Steve Bornstein, who's the executive from ESPN who launched the NFL Network. Guy's so smart, he hired me twice. He calls me up you know i i got a call from the nfl from an executive whose name i'd never heard of before and i called steve up and i'm like you know hey i got a call from somebody he wants to meet with me he goes who is it i said it's roger goodell and he goes hang up and call him back right now. And he was the COO of the NFL. He was the right-hand man at Tagliabue at the time who really never got any headlines. I'd not really known about him.

And he took me golfing. He's like, let's go. You play golf? Yeah. He goes, let's go. So it was just me and him for 18 holes. And right around the 11th, 12thth hole i remember i was in a sand trap and he says to me look you've been hired to do a job you did a job at espn well enough you know

really really well and you're honored to do a job with the nfl and if anybody ever tells you anything that you should or should not say and you you're uncomfortable about it, you call me and I'll fix it. And that's fact. And he's even at times said to me, you know, hey, how come you didn't ask this question, you know, first instead of third? Because, you know, if my reaction gave you any pause, that shouldn't be the case. You can ask me anything.

And he did that during the lockout, which, as you know, there's billions of dollars on the line. And he did that during the lockout, which, as you know, there's billions of dollars on the line. So I've been free to say, you know, what I'm going to say. And, you know, that's part of the reason why I'm thrilled to be around for season 16. Roger Goodell, not a terrible human, you're saying? That's fact. That's fact. That's what he said to me.

And he's backed it up for 16 years. How's his golf game? Pretty good. Pretty good, man. Are you forced to say that? Not bad. Are you forced to say that? Oh, when I say good, I mean he cheats his head off. Hey, Rich, I appreciate you so much.

He's good. Hey, thank you so much, man, for A, what you did for me on monday b coming on this show you did for me man you gave me an hour of fantastic content that i'm telling you our numbers of our videos when we tweet them out whatever they're off the charts you're a very popular man and that's the future of this business and um you know you keep doing you i do that means a lot everybody's telling me, but I'm not sure everybody gets it. You do, though, and you let me have an hour, which nobody on earth would do. So I'm so, so thankful for that.

Say hi to Tim McAfee for me, all right? Blockdad says hello. Ladies and gentlemen, the face of NFL Network, the voice of the NFL, Rich Eisen. Thank you so much, Rich. Thank you. All right, brother. See you, you man what a guy dude great guy he is he really is he let me i'm telling you and him saying that i'm popular i'm very thankful for him all his compliments but nobody lets me on for an hour nobody it's always like dan patrick i think we're interviewing him today they wanted me to fly to connect Connecticut for 10 minutes possibly on their show.

And I'm like, get the fuck out of here. I'm not flying to Connecticut for 10 minutes. I'm a big fan of the show. And everybody's just like, well, we don't know if you can be blah, blah, blah. And Rich was like, come on, we'll have you for the full hour. And I'm like, thank you, Rich. That is so nice of you. Because an hour is much different than 10 minutes.

10 minutes you're going to be like, let me hit everything i could possibly hit and then keep it moving you know i love i'm a big very thankful for rich the reason why i love rich is the way he described his show and he he's on he knows he's not a hot take machine and in that in that society today hot takes great to listen to well it's refreshing right he's very's very relaxed. Even when he's hosting, he's very smooth and just kind of lets everyone do their thing. He doesn't step on anybody. He's a cool cat. I'm a big fan of Rich Eisen.

First hire of the NFL Network. That's wild. Him and DP were great together, though, in SportsCenter back in the day. Back in the day. And then DP has his thing. Rich does his thing. That's the reason why they're probably both where they're at, by the way. So DP and Rich were together.

Rich says he can give me an hour. Come do that. DP says you can get 10 minutes if you need it. Well, I'm going to go to California where the weather's nice. I appreciate you so much. Big thanks to Rich Eisen. Big thanks to all of you for listening. We got Diggs Picks in there.

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