The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 014 - World Peace
Episode Date: October 18, 2018On today's show, Pat jumps directly off the tarmac from his trip to Orlando for a late night recording. The guys cover just about everything that is going on in the world right now including his trip ...to Florida for WWE business and his nightmare of a flight back home, the hot water that Facebook finds themselves in once again, the situation going on in Saudi Arabia and how the WWE could be the company to bridge the gap between them and the United States, some NFL chatter, Floyd Mayweather potentially boxing Khabib, and students in Texas needing to learn how to talk to the police before they can graduate high school. After the show, the kicker with arguably the biggest leg in the NFL today, fresh off his game winning 63 yard bomb two weeks ago, Graham Gano of the Carolina Panthers calls into the show. They chat about his journey from Florida St. to the USFL to the NFL, his kicking mentality, and what Ron Rivera is like (1:42:52). It's a wild one, come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello, it is Friday, October 18th, and that's a true statement.
We're recording this very late at night because I was in Orlando all day yesterday with the WWE.
We'll dive into it.
Yeah.
I was like, crazy.
It's a long one.
Hello.
It is Thursday, October 18th. And it actually is Thursday, October 18th.
All day yesterday, I was in Orlando.
Got back late.
The boys met me at the studio here and talk.
We'll talk about everything happening in the world.
We'll talk about the WWE trip. We'll talk about Facebook happening in the world we'll talk about the wwe
trip we'll talk about facebook just continuing to go down a rabbit hole of oh no we fucked up
we'll talk about football we'll talk about i have a conversation with graham gano that i had while i
was at the wwe that i recorded on my phone about just kicking basically it's pretty solid i think
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game winner last week against
the New York Giants on primetime, that took
over the internet, was on a UFL
team. He's been cut three times.
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the NFL. He's finally found his home
at the Carolina Panthers. He also
was a guy who explained to me
the rules of the kicking
contest that ESPN had
because I was too drunk the night before and missed a play.
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I know you're going to be late on your thing.
Yeah, so the trip to Orlando was interesting.
Yeah.
The trip to Orlando was very, very interesting.
It was a 24-hour trip.
It was 96% humidity.
So terrible.
So you're in a sauna.
No, a steam room.
Both. We were in both. So you're in a sauna. No, a steam room. Both. We're in
both. We literally were in both. As soon
as you leave the hotel, I have my
Dr. Bull glasses fog.
We left Indianapolis. It was
42 degrees. We landed down there. It was
with the humidity, I guess,
99 or 98 in the middle of
October. That's why teams that go to
Miami and play, like Patriots go in October.
That's why they lose. You can't breathe. You can't breathe. That's why teams that go to Miami and play, like Patriots go in October, that's why they lose. You can't breathe.
You can't breathe.
It's hard whenever you feel the outside.
When you feel the atmosphere.
Just to enjoy life.
Air conditioners down there in Florida are doing
triple time.
I don't know how they do it.
I don't know how they do it.
We got a chance to stay in a nice hotel. Largest hotel
in the history of hotels. Huge.
Huge hotel. What was it? Largest hotel in the history of hotels. Huge. Huge hotel.
What was it?
It's actually in the Orlando International Airport.
So you look out your balcony and you actually see the TSA lines, the whole thing.
And we walked a quarter mile to get to our rooms.
We literally walked a quarter mile.
So much wasted space.
You turn right and then you turn right.
And then I thought I was like, I have to be going the wrong way.
and then you turn right and then i thought i was like i have to be going the wrong way i because you know on those signs it's like from 4099 to 4107 this way or whatever and they gave
that sign and i was like there's no way i read that right i walked for eight minutes literally
an eight minute walk that's like that's like a gym class test oh yeah to get to the room and i
finally get to the room and i'm like, holy shit. So I call Foxy
and I'm like, Foxy,
where are you?
Right next door.
I'm like, did you do that walk?
He was like, yeah, it was a hike.
I'm like, yeah, did you go that way or that way?
He went the other way.
We were literally at the dead opposite side
of the hotel from the only elevator.
So it was an entire walk around.
It was an eight minute walk.
Are the rooms at least big?
Nice rooms.
Very nice rooms. Huge TVs. Very nice. Huge. It was an eight minute walk are the rooms at least big nice rooms very nice rooms
huge tvs very nice huge it was an 80 inch tv yeah led tv monster tv but this is the same place that
gives you the earplugs because you're in no because you're in the airport oh yeah so you get the ear
plug so that's kind of always like the situation where anytime you roll into a hotel and there's
earplugs there you know shit's about to be popping off all goddamn night it's not that bad though it was
absolutely beautiful so we get there we watch smackdown 1000 there was so much shit that
happened we're writing notes we got very vitamin up and the next morning our job was to go to the
performance center record a digital video for them and then kind of just figure out what else we do
they didn't want us there until the afternoon because everybody was traveling from smackdown so the night before so we got to this nice diner
very nice dixie bells is what it was called right off the farm sounds quaint it was it was they go
ahead what about dinner the night before oh yeah we ran into oh yeah we had dinner with seth rollins
yeah oh how's he doing?
Great.
Oh, that's good.
He sat down right next to us, too.
So he sat down right next... We were at a bar, a U-shaped bar at the hotel after we watched SmackDown.
As soon as we landed, we had to go watch SmackDown because I had to make a video about SmackDown.
So we had to go watch SmackDown.
As soon as SmackDown ends, we go down to the restaurant bar.
Gigantic.
Gigantic bar.
We're sitting there watching. There was a baseball game on, I believe. The bar. Gigantic, gigantic bar. We're sitting there watching.
There was a baseball game on, I believe.
The Dodgers were playing, I think.
We're watching that.
There's a spy to our right.
There's a guy who obviously had a disguise on.
He had the Breaking Bad glasses with a mustache.
It was on a fake phone call for 35 minutes and then left.
35 minutes.
He was sitting overlooking the airport on his fake phone for
35 minutes and then he leaves and he had no service the whole time no service no service
no no like not on his phone like nobody went over and asked him if you want 80 he was just sitting
at the bar overlooking the airport fake phone call glasses fake glasses they look like in a
fake mustache maybe they have bar marshals at airports.
I don't know what they are.
I thought he was a spy though.
Because I went to a spy museum in Washington, D.C.
I went through it one time
and that's really what they do is they put on disguises.
That is an actual thing that happens with spies.
And I thought this guy was a spy potentially.
Espionage. Very well could be.
Like the goddamn guy in Turkey.
Old buddy in Turkey turkey so we're um we're i don't
know if foxy's but i am very very very very very very high very high at this point i mean we took
off i was sitting at this bar just gone and i'm just looking at that spy for like 20 minutes like
just trying to figure this whole thing out and that's why i saw the little details of him not
getting served i saw the fake details of him not getting served.
I saw the fake phone call
because he held that phone
up to his face
for seven minutes,
eight minutes at a time
and didn't even move his mouth,
didn't even move anything.
I'm like,
this guy is a fake human.
Is it possible
he was listening with voicemails?
No,
because you have to change
the voicemail.
You have to keep
hitting play every time.
What do you mean the old ones?
He was on an iPhone though.
He was on a standard iPhone
so you have to go to an X1.
It's not like you just log in
and it just plays the book.
Just play Double Tap again.
This is 2018.
It's 2018.
As a technology guy,
you should have known.
I will say, bud.
It's too late at night
to be a conference call.
Yeah, it was.
It definitely was.
It was too late at night
to be a conference call.
And in a conference call,
I feel like you have to
sort of pay attention.
Different time zone, though, maybe.
No, conference calls,
you do not.
Yeah, but you just
put the phone down, then. There's no reason for you to actually hold it up. Or you get different time zones, though, maybe. Nah. No, it's because you do not. Yeah, but you just put the phone down then.
There's no reason for you to actually hold it up.
Unless you hear your name.
It was a very interesting situation.
So we're watching that.
The bartender speaks no English.
His name was Alberto.
He and I had a rough communication.
We had a rough time.
No chemistry.
I really tried my best to get him going there.
Full conversation.
We just had nothing.
I wanted these mushrooms that were stuffed.
He heard sauteed mushrooms, and we just had a situation there. Full conversation. We just had nothing. I wanted these mushrooms that were stuffed. He heard sauteed mushrooms,
and we just had a situation there.
It was a dance.
It was a do-si-do, he and I, for a lot of the time.
And we're sitting there,
and all of a sudden,
all of a sudden, Seth Rollins walks down.
Oh, the architect.
The architect.
The aerialist.
Monday Night Rollins.
The man.
Yeah.
CrossFit Jesus.
Him.
Seth freaking Rollins.
Yep.
The Kingslayer.
Yep.
Do less.
Get less names.
I thought of you, actually, whenever he sat down, because you have told me this before.
He has so much.
He has so much.
I like him a lot.
Great in the ring.
Burn it down, by the way.
Burn it down.
You can play for him.
The Falcon Arrow.
The Stomp.
All these moves, all these names.
It's too much.
Do less.
Wait until you hear what he does.
You're going to definitely say do less.
So he walks in.
He goes and talks to the hostess on whether or not he should sit down.
And I think the hostess is like, you should probably just go sit at the bar, full menu, full thing like that.
And the bar is wide open.
And he sits right next to me.
He sits literally right next to me on the corner.
I'm facing this way.
He's on the corner on the other side.
And I go, hey, Seth, what's up, man?
I FaceTimed with you with Baron Corbin like a week ago.
He was like, oh, McAfee?
He was like, I didn't know you with the glasses on.
I said, I look too smart.
And he said, no, no, I just didn't know.
I was like, oh, well, nice to see you or whatever.
And then I sat back talking to Foxy because this is weird.
Now, he is literally within earshot.
He is like an arm's length away.
Me and Foxy are basically the only two people really
talking at this corner so it's like do i include this guy in the conversation i've never officially
met him i've never officially met i think you did it right so i start i started i was like ah
you're i forget my first question it was hey man you're insane in the ring i think it was my actual
first question i was like uh how do you do it were you a
gymnast is like it started it straight into an interview it went straight into an interview and
it sucks for him because this is he's just trying to eat dinner but he got forced into sitting next
to somebody who has a lot of questions so he's like no i never played any sports i just did a
lot of trampoline i was on a trampoline a lot growing up he said i was on a trampoline my
entire life i was a trampoline wrestler. And I was like, you're incredible
in there, man. I always feel like you're going to die,
but you're absolutely incredible. He was like,
yeah, thanks, man. I appreciate that. It's a lot
of fun. Listen to his fucking schedule.
It's wild. His schedule is insane.
It is absolutely
fucking insane.
He's traveling 265
days out of the year.
265 days of the year he's on the road.
And when he's at home in Iowa,
he has a wrestling school that he coaches at.
So he has two days off a week, basically,
which is either Wednesday, Thursday, or Tuesday, Wednesday.
Or Wednesday, Thursday, I guess it is.
And he goes and coaches at his wrestling school in Iowa.
And then he flies on Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
Monday, Tuesday, back home.
Two flights because he lives in a tiny town
in iowa so two or three flights out everywhere he goes goes and coaches at his wrestling school
goes to sleep hits the road again bing bang boom put that on repeat he's been doing it for six
years he's been doing it for six years he said i've been doing this schedule for six fucking
years and i was like that is insane i said how much longer do you got he said i don't know i
think i can go a good bit more i was like okay i like what you're doing he's like my time in this industry is so short i'm trying to
really juice every minute of it i'm like well i think you're doing it i think you're i really
think you're doing it and it was we got into a full conversation about smackdown what happened
on smackdown there were so many returns ray mysterio came back batista came back and spoke
for like 45 minutes and it was a two-hour show, so it's a wild scene.
But it was really cool.
He was a very cool guy.
He was.
He was a very cool guy.
I asked him how sore he is and shit.
I was like, how is your body just in pain all the time?
He's like, I worked out today.
I've learned that when I move, it helps.
I could imagine.
But he does have that kind of a walk as if his, you know what I mean?
He was really cool, though.
So the next day, we go to Dixie Bell's,
this quaint little diner.
It's so nice.
You walk in.
Fox News is playing on three of the TVs
as soon as you walk in.
So they are setting the tone immediately
when you walk in there, okay?
Just to let you know.
Excuse me.
We're letting you know immediately
this is how we roll, okay?
We sit down at the bar lady comes up
to ask us if uh what we wanted or whatever i'm like an unsweet tea and i was like i think i know
what we want to we order the thing i go what's your name she goes luann i was like your name is
luann and you're working at dixie bells and she's like i've been here for five years spot on it was
i i called her a fake name i I said, that's a character name.
That's a gimmick name.
That's a fake name.
She's like, no, it's not.
And then she asked Patty.
Patty Lou, I believe her name was.
Patty Lou.
No, these are all old ladies.
These are all very, very old.
Trish, Patty Lou, and Lou Anne.
I was going to say Gretchen.
No, there was no Gretchen.
Gertrude had a day off.
We had a great time.
Gertrude.
Gertrude and Betty took the day off
We had a nice little meal there
We go back outside
We go over to the performance center
We're the first ones there
We sit out in a minivan for a while
Just Foxy and I talking
We go into the building
And we're told we're not allowed to go anywhere
Not allowed to go anywhere
What do you mean?
It's all locked down
So they got some big shit coming up
It's all like super secrecy not even allowed to turn the corner
into one room we're like we're not allowed to go here we're not allowed to go here you're not
allowed to basically we are confined to a green screen closet yep that we're so we go in this
green screen closet beautifully lit it's a beautiful green screen closet the best green
screen closet i've ever
seen in my yeah we need it we need one here actually we record this digital thing about the
uh smackdown 1000 i felt very good about it felt very very good about it and then that's over that
took me like 20 minutes because we actually prepared for it and then the guy that films
it just leaves he sends the video off to connecticut for somebody to edit and me and fox
are just sitting there just holding our dick what are we supposed to do now?
And we couldn't go into any other rooms.
Did you try?
No.
We were told on numerous occasions,
you're not, this is off limits, this is off limits,
this is off limits.
So I'm like, well, what the fuck are we going to do?
Why are we down here in Florida?
We can't do anything.
Go outside, we all start sweating.
So we go back to the green screen closet
we're sitting there
I text Michael Cole
I'm like
am I supposed to just sit
in his green screen closet
the whole time
he's like
oh you can come see us
they're recording voiceovers
for WWE 2K19
awesome
not awesome
not awesome
yeah
they record
10 hours a day
recording these voiceovers
they do it once a month
and it's just them
reading
like so monotonous oh my god we were sitting there and I'm like 10 hours a day recording these voiceovers. They do it once a month. And it's just them reading.
So monotonous.
Oh, my God.
We were sitting there, and I'm like,
I think I want to go back to the closet.
But it was awesome watching them work.
Michael Cole, Corey Graves, Byron Saxon.
It was cool watching them work.
I just had a whole new respect for them. Those video games, you think about it.
I don't play a lot of video games.
But I guess on Madden, they have very updated announcers.
We're like Tom Brady went for 300 yards this past weekend against the Chiefs.
You don't even think like, oh, somebody had to go record that.
Somebody had to go do that.
That's what's happening on WWE 2K19.
They're recording every single month a whole new.
Oh, and they update it every month.
Yes.
Okay, gotcha.
It's like a 10-hour recording.
All the new wrestlers' names, all the new moves, anything like that.
They have to put that in there.
I know it sucks for them, but it's cool to have an updated game at all times.
That's what I'm saying.
I think as a society,
we don't think about things
like
how the sausage is being made.
I just would assume you're locked in for that
until the next year.
That's how it used to be.
Watching them do it, though it was incredible they were they were
like machines over there and we saw them and then we left and we came back and saw them and then we
went over we went over to full sail university which is where nxt is filmed wwe in full sail
of a beautiful relationship all these full sail production students get to work for the wwe and then the wwe has trained production people basically genius genius
right out of college big time production school and video game and all that stuff
yep all the media arts there yep it's huge it's where nxt tapes once a month so then we go over
to full sail we get there and it's cool watching the nxt taping stuff like it's all coming together you're watching like some very big name people do some very cool things would be it's it's awesome
and if you ever get a chance to go down to those nxt tapings you should do it because it's electric
in that full sale university michael cole's still not over there it's like five o'clock six o'clock
at night he finally gets there at 6 15 i'm like where the fuck have you been he's like i just got done recording i'm back at it tomorrow morning 7 a.m i'm like
holy fuck this dude just got off of smackdown on dc flies right to orlando he's got like 10
hours recording the next day 10 hours of recording and they're probably off the fucking saudi arabia
it is insane the grind that they put in i i don't i don't fully so there must be a whole team just
for constantly writing for that yes yeah the wwe 2k19 is its own business yeah so they hire like
michael cole to work for the w so that's its own business i do believe because before we left bar
stool we were about to get an advertising deal with w 2K. It was like 2K Games.
It's its own business.
And Michael Cole is basically working for them there, I think.
I think him, Corey Graves, and Byron Saxner.
But I never play video games.
But I think the people who do play video games
should have a little bit more respect
for the things that are happening behind the scenes
after watching them just have to sit there
and fucking call these video game matches it
was insane it's absolutely insane then we hopped on a plane i get on the goddamn plane because i
knew we had to record this podcast i was like no big deal no big deal i'll get on the plane i'll
check the internet see what happened in the world we'll just it'll be a nice flight because i can't
sleep on planes i i'm very envious and jealous of people who can. I don't know how they do it.
I have no idea.
I asked the internet.
The internet told me drugs.
That's all they said.
Just take drugs.
Take drugs.
You'll sleep.
I'm like, all right.
Other than drugs, I don't know how people do it.
Some people got it.
Some people don't.
I think it's an actual trait in your system whether or not you can fall asleep with the
quickness or not.
I cannot do it.
So I'm like, I'm going to get on the internet internet i'll catch up with the world so we can do this podcast
so now we're we're 20 minutes into a flight i can't connect okay the deluxe okay
the zito premium wi-fi so i go to go go in flight try to jump start my safari so that it will know
what it's doing.
It loads, but it says we're having difficulties.
We are having difficulties.
So this flight attendant comes up to me.
She's a sweet old lady.
I'm like, is your Wi-Fi, is there something wrong with your Wi-Fi?
And she goes, go to your settings.
Okay, so now she's telling me how to fucking get on a Wi-Fi.
So I play the little game with the lady because I don't want to disrespect her. She's a sweet old lady trying to be as nice as possible.
Go to your settings.
I'm like, oh, okay.
Yep.
And she goes, Wi-Fi.
I go, yeah.
She goes, pick Delta Wi-Fi.
I'm like, okay.
You see, there's already a fucking check mark.
But I will do it.
I go, okay, is that right?
Okay.
And then what happens?
And she goes, now go to your Safari page and it should pop up to go-go in-flight airborne.
And I was already on the website. I was already on there. I'm like, this one? She's like, yeah. Now go to your Safari page, and it should pop up to go-go in-flight airborne. And it opened.
It was already on the website.
It was already on there.
I'm like, this one?
She's like, yeah.
She goes, I hit, is there a refresh?
I go, yeah, I hit the refresh.
And the same page that was on before popped up.
And it says temporarily unavailable.
So I'm like, yeah, it seems like it's not working.
She's like, ah, we're on an airplane.
I thought you were going to say that.
Oh, man.
She says to me, ah, we're on an airplane. And I was like, oh, yeah, you're 100 an airplane. She says to me,
we're on an airplane.
I was like, yeah, you're 100% right.
You're 100% right.
Then she goes, other people are on it though.
It might be your phone.
I look around and nobody else is on it.
Everybody's reading on there.
I didn't want to tell her.
She's a sweet old lady.
I didn't want to be like,
actually nobody's on it.
I liked her first answer. Adding on to it with everyone else is on it was a bad move we're on an
airplane yeah we're on an airplane she says that's ah we're on an airplane i liked it and i'm like
oh and by the way i'm being very nice i understand this lady has a tough job she has to deal with a
lot of hassles traveling i'm like oh yeah that makes sense yeah and she's like and everybody
else is on it i'm like no, no, they're not though.
Why don't you fucking ask these people if they're on it?
They are not on it.
And I've had this situation
before I was on the internet
going to New York
until Foxy said
he couldn't get on the internet
and then they turned off the Wi-Fi
and turned it back on.
Do you remember that?
Yeah.
Everybody on the plane lost Wi-Fi
because Foxy couldn't get
on the fucking Wi-Fi.
It was unbelievable.
I don't believe it ever again.
Can you reboot it?
Fucking 45 minute reboot.
Everybody on the plane, literally, except for Foxy,
is I'm sitting right next to Foxy on the internet,
and Foxy asked the flight attendant to reboot the Wi-Fi.
Everybody gets kicked off.
We land in New York, never had Wi-Fi again.
Everyone paid for it, too.
Everybody paid for it already.
The entire flight's Wi-Fi.
What about me?
That's exactly what it was.
And Foxy, I felt like you.
I thought of you on this plane whenever she was like,
everybody else seems to be having it, though.
I was like, this is the fucking Foxy situation.
And I have this new goddamn phone.
So I thought it was funny.
And by the way, with this new phone, no music on it.
There's no music on here.
That's killer.
There's no music on here.
So I literally had no music, no internet, no internet no games no sleep i am in a fucking
nightmare situation i got a couple behind me that onions and fish on a fucking sandwich
and there's a baby a poopy poopy baby right around this is the flight we're on we're on a capsule
from fucking hell at this moment so finally i literally i almost asked the person in front of
me who i think lady thought was on the internet like are you on the internet and the lady comes
back she goes i just tried to get out of my phone i couldn't get on either i'm like you don't say
that's a while oh you're on a plane yeah she said you're we're 30 000 feet in the air she
doubled down didn't just say we're on a plane she goes goes with the Bill Burr thing or Louis C.K.
I forget which one.
I was like, they wait for the phone.
It's got to call a satellite in the fucking sky.
Now we're all spoiled, rotten fucking dudes,
which we are, by the way.
We 100% are.
We're flying through the air.
We are 100%.
I understand that I sound like a big person.
I took a picture of the thing right above my head that said
Wi-Fi I actually took a fucking picture of it
Because it was less than an inch away from me
And I was just staring at it and she's like
We're on a plane like I shouldn't have Wi-Fi
Like well y'all motherfuckers shouldn't put it on the
Fucking goddamn plane
So finally 30 minutes
40 minutes into the flight
I just accidentally went to my safari
And hit refresh
And it popped up and I was like
That fucking old bitch
She reset the fucking wifi
Because she didn't have the wifi so she went up there and reset it
No heads up
No heads up
She said she had to admit that she was wrong
Exactly, because all I wanted to say was
You know, there was this one time I was on a flight
And this one fucking prick said, reset it.
And it seemed as if that is possible.
Is there any way you could do that?
It never happened.
So here we are.
So not a great day, not a bad day, not a...
It was just, it was...
Somewhere there, it was a day.
It was a day.
It was a day.
I don't know how that show's going to look.
I record it and then never see the footage.
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Pat did the floss dance.
You know the new trendy dance?
Oh, yeah.
Nailed it.
First time ever.
Behind arms.
Oh, yeah.
Yep.
First time ever.
The human floss dance.
Yeah.
First time I ever tried it in my life.
Nailed it.
Crushed it.
Fucking crushed it.
It was better than the other one.
I hate the other one.
The fucking leg at the same time as the arm.
I fucking hate that.
That's the Drake thing, right?
That one is the Drake thing.
That's a Fortnite one, too, I thought.
JB Blockboy, right?
He's on the song with Drake, and that's why everyone does it.
Yeah.
Sounds right.
I think that's right.
Oh, the kick one is from a Drake song, right?
I fucking hate that song. Drake's on the song.
Look alive, right?
Just clarifying.
It's not Drake's thing.
The floss is a Fortnite dance, right?
No, it was the backpack kid on Instagram.
Oh, that's right.
Kid wore a backpack.
He's this real skinny, tall, freaky-looking kid.
I don't want to say he invented this dance, but I guess he pioneered it.
Mason Ramsey tore it up on that one video.
Mark Ingram did it, what, last year, though?
I feel like Mark Ingram did it like a year ago.
This kid did it like three years ago.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
He got it from this kid, and this kid's got like two million followers now.
He blew up.
He had an interview with Gary Vee once.
It was the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life.
Did Gary Vee post it? No, no. v was just like breaking down like his whole business plan
like a 12 year old gary v told me in the video that we shot that if i send him the links yeah
gary v's got one speed doesn't matter how old you are you're gonna get it that little fucking
poopy baby on the plane he said we sent. He's in right hook mode all the time.
He said we sent him the link, so promote it.
Yeah.
He did.
Classic Gary.
Well, he's out fucking.
Going to too many garage sales. Yeah, he's out hitting garage sales.
Trash talk.
Trash talk.
Fucking flipped six matchbox cars into.
I respect that he's still grinding like that when he has that office.
I absolutely respect that.
Dude.
What I don't respect, though,
is a three and a half minute meeting.
Not even.
I think it was three minutes and 20 seconds.
But he gave you that meeting.
I mean...
He gave me a three minute and 20 second meeting.
Very nice of him.
It was our fault.
We were in the wrong building.
We were in the wrong elevators.
And we got told to sit in a corner in the lobby.
I understand.
It's not...
But don't tell me to send the links
and then I send the links
and then there's no love at all. What are we doing? I don't tell me to send the links and then I send the links and then there's no
love at all. What are we doing?
I don't want to say that I called this, but we were up there
and I was like, are you sure flying out there is going to be worth it
to be with Gary Vee?
It was though. I mean, there was other
stuff that happened. But honestly,
that was a little tough decision from old Gary Vee.
Just need a little tweety tweet. That's all we're asking
for. A little Sherry Sher.
A little Sherry Sher.
He asked me to do stuff like that.
I'd do it.
Not no more.
What kind of streets are those called?
Oh, one-way streets.
Whichever way I go.
He's only getting his back scratched.
That's a good move for him.
So I have no idea what happened in the world.
I only had the internet for six minutes before we got...
We are now going in for initial descent.
I had to pee.
I had no internet.
So I have no clue what happened today.
I couldn't even guess.
I saw you guys sent some links.
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Black Friday sale I am very excited for.
Very, very excited for. This Facebook
thing I'm very interested in.
Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg,
depicted as a terrible human being
in a social network. Douchebag, asshole
extraordinaire. You would never think
a guy that just wanted Tinder, basically.
That's all he wanted.
He wanted to create Tinder, basically.
That's all he wanted. Now he all he wanted was he wanted to create Tinder, basically. It's all he wanted.
Now he's the reason for election meddling.
Now his company is knowingly fudging up numbers so that they can fuck people over.
It seems as if Zuckerberg should have kept the the
and not fucked over everything that he's built.
Seems like he's in a bad spot, man.
I think this, there's a spin zone.
I think somebody's out to get Zuckerberg.
I think it's the Winklevoss.
They're doing a good job.
Yeah.
Because everything gets blamed on Facebook.
Everything gets blamed on Facebook.
They have everybody's information.
They're asking for everybody's dick pics.
They have everybody's information.
And now what has come up, Nick?
This is like what you're just saying.
It's a classic do less.
Like here they are.
They're trying to get everything
and trying to control everything.
So I guess court documents were unsealed yesterday about,
I don't know what the court case was about actually,
but the documents that were unsealed in the court case
told us that Facebook was fudging their numbers
on video views.
Basically, they were telling advertisers,
we're shifting you to video.
Print's dead.
No one wants to read on the internet.
Everyone wants to view videos,
which if you were a human on the internet
and you interacted with the internet,
you knew that was a blatant fucking lie.
I didn't want to watch videos when I was sitting at my work.
I wanted to read.
So Facebook just...
For what it's worth, though.
I don't like to read.
No, there's definitely a market for it,
but to say...
Yeah, I'm with you about that.
Todd, it's remarkable
how much you and I are normally in the same boat.
I'm telling you.
You should have seen,
there's a full situation
where I talked to the minivan today
and figured it out.
Oh, yeah.
And we filmed the whole thing.
I couldn't get the phone to connect.
I couldn't get the Bluetooth to connect.
You got it parking, right? No, but it was
already parked. The car had a full... Oh, you were in a van.
But the car had a full conversation.
I had a full conversation with the car to
figure it out. I didn't think you were gonna, but you did.
I did. I fucking pulled it out.
I pulled it out, and then John Daly
hit it hard, man. Started playing
immediately. It was like,
perfect! That's my phone, bitch!
I know it is the dodge minivan but anyways
so um facebook was basically skewing numbers yeah to say that views were getting more or videos were
getting more views than they actually were basically trying to sell advertisers and then
probably i'm sure to help promote launch their whole facebook watch and their whole channel
that they were yeah because it was going to become the next TV thing.
Correct.
You really can't trust anyone anymore.
We're going to have all TV shows on there, they said.
They didn't fudge our numbers for that Barstool tailgate show.
They weren't lying to anybody about those.
Maybe they were, by the way.
You can't tell anymore.
Maybe you were underselling us.
You literally cannot believe
that's what i got for the sound i still think it was mike davies
like we talked about we've talked about a couple times but like when we were on the podcast one
platform we were told those numbers were phony no one knew how many people were actually listening
completely just told that yeah here's what podcast one is telling because lewis the sales guy actually didn't want to
fuck over companies right so he was getting a heads up basically the podcast one and i i think
other salespeople in barstool as well that's why barstool by the way moved off the podcast one
network because there was a large yeah not like 30 or 40 listeners we're talking like hundreds
of thousands of people were being made up. They were doing X.
So if somebody, there was a lot of podcasts I thought they were crushing.
There was a lot of podcasts like, oh, we got 40,000 people.
This is like, no, no, you got 400.
It was like the Ray Lewis's people took care of this.
Yeah, like the Twitter purge.
That's exactly what it was.
Podcast One was doing that for a while.
And then they had a bunch of lawsuits with advertisers. How do you actually catch that, though?
I have no fucking idea.
Is that dumb?
Is that a dumb question?
No.
It has to be ROI.
I'd assume that some business.
That must be another company that just got pissed off at their numbers, right?
And they just look in their books?
No, it would have to be a business that does advertising that doesn't see the ROI.
Right.
The return on investment.
And then they start questioning because that's why they skew the numbers.
They skew the numbers so that they can tell advertisers.
We have, for instance, for that one that I just said, 40,400.
Like I think that actually happened with a podcast that I do know about.
And they were selling advertisers on 40,000 listeners.
So then whenever two people were signing up for something over like
a month span the company i think was like way to fucking this doesn't seem like this is right
so then they launch basically its own little an investigation and then it turned out that that
was happening in a lot of places and i think podcast one has since had to clean it up i'm
not sure what they are now yeah i think the federal government stepped in yeah i think they're like hey it's kind of fraud you guys gonna have to uniform
how you measure shit because this is a new wave by the way uh digital but we make a complete live
living off of digital marketing and whenever you get a platform skewing numbers it might make you
look good at the time but you're fucking over advertisers that aren't going to pay you in the future so it's like the truth is the best the best possible thing
and facebook just making up numbers is something that they can do i have no idea how somebody would
catch that i have no clue how somebody would catch that honestly didn't that start a ripple effect
too for writers getting fired like that's why espn cleaned out so many of their writers and
fox yeah exactly because they saw that and they're like hey everything's going to digital video so for writers getting fired. That's why ESPN cleaned out so many of their writers. And Fox, right?
Yeah, exactly, because they saw that and they're like,
hey, everything's going to digital video,
so we don't need you guys anymore.
And they hired video.
Yeah, and they hired video people who now realize, too,
it's like, well, this shit isn't working.
That's the point I was trying to make earlier.
If you're just an average person working at a desk job,
you can't sit at your desk and watch videos all day.
Your boss is going to kill you for that.
You can get away with pulling up a blog or something like that and
that's a different story but so there you go all these companies are like you they're just not
listening to their audience they're just listening to what someone else is telling them like a
consultant well all you care about is those numbers right i mean literally everybody we talk to they
and it's not anybody we talk to the businesses that get it get it right there's businesses that
get it and then there's businesses that are just trying to get into this digital age and they're
told a couple things by some hot shot like oh you should see the numbers you should see how
they're trending you should see uh what their average and all this bullshit instead of just
like being like well we're gonna ask another company who's done business with you to see
what the roi because that's all that matters.
The only thing that matters, digital advertising,
like our companies, for instance, that advertise with us,
they do commercials on TV.
They never check with TBS.
Like, 4Hams and Snoop Dogg, they'll never see how that performed.
TBS does not have to prove that that commercial,
but with us, we have to prove it they have it has to
prove it if we if ck came into our podcast and none of our listeners by the way you guys are
the fucking best if none of our listeners you'd see geek ck wouldn't just be like oh there's a
few hundred thousand people listening we just want our name to get out there that's not the way it
works ck's like okay we want to see people use it it's just like thursday boots it's just like fucking this get basic company all these companies it's like well
if it's a prove it method is what the digital age is where tv was just like oh we can expose you to
this number of people the digital age is like you got to prove it so that's how you can find out if
numbers are being cooked or not and you just gotta hope you just gotta hope that your numbers aren't being cooked you just gotta be like you're like when companies come in we just
gotta hope that it works and some companies though it's hard to sell some companies are
hard to sell for us it is especially the ones that just aren't familiar with it you know what
i mean like because you're like hey well give me a promo code and then you'll see like you have a
way to measure it they were giving you a measuring stick we have a promo code you'll see. You have a way to measure it. We're giving you a measuring stick. We have a promo code.
You'll see how many people use it.
Yeah, but if your shit sucks, it's hard to sell.
You know what I mean?
I had to have that conversation with our new salesperson
where a business would pop up and I'd be like,
hey, that shit sucks.
I don't want to sell that.
They're like, well, they have this amount of money.
It's like, yeah, but I don't want to tell people to use that
because I think that sucks.
Well, this is a check that we can get immediately. It's like, yeah, but that company is never want to tell people to use that because I think that that sucks like well This is a check that we get immediately
It's like yeah
But that company is never gonna come back to us that companies never in the listeners of this show are gonna know that I'm telling
Them this is bullshit that I'm selling them me. It's not gonna say the product is but as soon as you taste it
Magothy lining his ass up.
Do you remember that thing I was talking about?
It's like fruity battle.
Do you remember the taste of that thing?
It's like ass.
I said I'll write a check to him right now so I don't have to talk about this anymore.
You did.
I tried my best.
I was like, they are not investing enough
for me to have to fake like this bullshit.
It is so bad.
What a moment that was.
That was a great moment for me was that was a great moment for me
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He was on one, man.
He was on one.
Straight out of SmackDown in Washington, D.C.
Straight into this recording.
Straight to NXT tapings.
He just sits down.
And he was in a hilarious mood.
Absolutely hilarious.
So I love the WWE guys.
Because unlike the agents that completely trashed me at that meeting,
the WWE guys are overly nice to to me and they completely bash Pat.
And it's very fun to watch.
It is very true.
They're so nice to me.
They are very nice to old Foxy.
They're like, the only reason why you're anything is because of Foxy.
And I just kind of sit there.
And I'm like, yeah, you're 100% right.
Yeah, Foxy's the best.
They're like, yeah, you'd be nothing without Foxy.
I'm like, yeah, I guess. Yeah, I mean. I just kind of bask in the right. Yeah, Foxy's the best. They're like, yeah, you'd be nothing without Foxy. I'm like, yeah, I guess.
Yeah, I mean.
I just kind of bask in the glory a little bit.
Yeah, he does.
He does.
He just sits there and I look at him.
I'm like, yeah, Foxy's great, you know?
And he just starts like hammering me, you know?
And I'm like, Michael, listen.
I'm a small business owner, okay?
You are.
I got people that depend on me.
If Foxy does well, that's good for the business, okay?
You should understand this, Mr. Cole.
What's good for business is good on me. If Foxy does well, that's good for the business. You should understand this, Mr. Cole. What's good for business
is good for me.
Evan Foxy being great
is good for fucking business,
Michael Cole.
It's a great conversation.
You know how Foxy
handles his small business?
What's that?
Let's the power go out.
See, this isn't my fault.
This isn't my fault.
I did pay it.
Why did Connor go home
when there was nothing?
The lights on.
You guys know me
I wouldn't make
Connor and Zito
I was next to you
When you paid for it
I was literally next to you
So I
You know
I've been traveling
The least credible person
In the room
That might make it worse
By the way
This is our pub
Zito is always credible
When it comes to the pub
For the pub at least
How
What are you talking about
I came to the pub
He wasn't there
What are you talking about The guy was playing Video pub and he wasn't there for four hours. What are you talking about?
The guy was playing video games
upstairs here.
I was working.
Yeah, yeah, working.
What a job.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, working.
No, I don't know
what happened there, though.
I got to check.
I've been traveling.
I've been working.
Oh, there's no power still?
I don't know.
I paid it.
No, I paid it.
Oh, I hope you do.
It's like 33 degrees outside, too.
You two guys are going to be freezing.
Perfect time to lose the power.
It's getting cold.
This might be a dumb question, but is the heater different from the electricity?
No, boy.
Your gas?
You still need electric.
No way.
Yeah, it's a whole electrical system that runs that.
I went on vacation one time and came back and my pipes busted.
Oh, yeah, the water pan.
So I had no water.
And then the power was out.
So I had no power. I didn't power was out. So I had no power.
I didn't pay my bill.
So I had no water, no power.
It happens.
It was bad.
It was like 25 degrees.
I was sleeping in front of my fireplace in my fucking huge house.
My huge house.
I was sleeping in front of my fireplace.
Burning like legs of chairs.
Just, bro, just fucking, just laying there with a sleeping bag next to it,
all by myself.
I couldn't watch TV.
I couldn't even charge my phone.
I was like, this is the moment.
I'm in a million-dollar house.
No power.
No heat.
Laying next to a fireplace.
Like, this is what the cavemen had to do.
What kept you from going to a hotel?
Well, because I got home like midnight.
So I got home midnight.
So it was a late night.
And I go in and I hit the light.
It was like classic movie.
Like I hit the lights on like expecting.
Oh, the light bulb's out.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm like, oh, you know what?
I haven't changed that.
You know, long time.
You go to another one, you flip it on, nothing.
It's like.
And then you look at the microwave.
You always go to the microwave and it's like nothing.
No, there's just the power's out.
There was a storm.
Somebody hit a pole. Yeah. So I call my mom. Obviously and it's like nothing. No, there's just the power's out. There was a storm. Somebody hit a pole.
Yeah, so I call my mom.
Obviously, it's midnight.
She answers.
She's like, what?
I'm like, is there a power outage in Indianapolis?
She's like, I don't know.
Look it up.
I'm like, good night, mom.
I have no power in my house.
She's like, did you pay your bill?
I was like, I don't remember.
She's like, that's a no.
I was like, did you pay my bill? She was like, I don't remember. She's like, that's a no. I was like, did you pay my bill?
She's like, no, I've never paid your bill.
I'm like, see, this is probably where the problem was.
I probably thought you were paying it.
It was like in the first month I had the house.
First month I had the house.
It was insane.
My first house I ever bought, I almost went up for foreclosure.
Because I thought it was on auto pay.
It was not.
Turns out it was on auto pay.
I went to Africa, Europe. I was in Pittsburgh, New York. It was like a month and a half I was not. Turns out it was not on pay. I went to Africa, Europe.
I was in Pittsburgh, New York.
It was like a month and a half I was gone.
I get back.
There's a foreclosure notice on my door.
It says, do not foreclose on your home.
We have answers.
And I called, and I was like, what is going on?
They're like, Mr. McAfee, are you okay?
I'm like, yeah.
What is happening, though?
They're like, you have not paid a single mortgage bill since.
So if you need to, there's ways to get out of your mortgage.
I'm like, no, no, no.
I just haven't checked my mailbox.
What do you mean?
I was like, I'd like to pay for the next two years worth of mortgage bills.
Like today, is that possible?
They're like, yeah, absolutely.
I was like, cool.
So I drive to the bank and i get there and it was
quite a scene when i get the lady that i talked to was obviously went to some mortgage director guy
who went to another person and i get there and they're like so what happened i was like
yeah i honestly just didn't check the mailbox for six weeks i was in europe i was in africa i was
i was in pittsburgh i was in new y They're like, we've been sending you foreclosure letters for like two weeks.
We actually had to delay the foreclosure because we saw your name.
I was like, well, I'm happy you did that.
And I just pulled out cash.
I was like, I think this is for the next year and a half.
And they were like, can you write us a check?
And I was like, no, this is all I have right now.
And they're like, okay, because I didn't have checks.
So I said, well, can you give me checks? And they're like, no, this is all I have right now. And they're like, okay, because I didn't have checks. So I said, well, can you give me checks?
And they're like, you're an adult.
I was like, yeah, I thought this was on auto pay.
I just assumed this was on auto pay.
I literally only work with cash.
I only go to the bank and take cash out.
I didn't have a credit card at the time.
I didn't even have a debit card.
You still don't have a debit card.
Still don't have a debit card.
It boggles my mind.
I didn't have a credit card at the time. I have a debit card. Still don't have a debit card. It boggles my mind. I didn't have a credit card at the time.
I have a credit card now.
I would only do cash.
I would carry like $15,000 in cash on me
because I would take trips around.
I would just have it literally in my pocket.
I would literally just have it in my pocket,
just showing up in Pittsburgh at a college dorm
with $15,000 in my pocket.
What are we doing tonight?
I got a fucking burning hole. Burning000 in my pocket. What are we doing tonight? I got a fucking, it's burning a hole.
Burn a hole in my pocket.
And they were like,
God,
whatever,
don't foreclose your home.
I'm like,
I was never thinking about it.
Honestly,
I thought I had this house forever.
I thought this was on autopay.
It was a wild scene.
And then electric,
so don't feel too bad
that you didn't pay the bill,
Fox.
That's what makes the pub,
the pub.
You never know what you're going to get.
It's true.
Also having a fucking closet full of clothes
right in the front door as soon as you walk in.
Oh, you moved it, Connor.
I washed them all.
I'm good.
He washed them.
Still wearing the same fucking thing
you were wearing two days ago.
Same fucking thing.
Oh, we're going to go to the pub right now.
There's like four clothes signs on it.
Oh, no.
Yeah, I wasn't supposed to be no yeah i wasn't supposed to be
there was nobody to blame either he's like who do you blame so i call tim mcafee and yell at him
like hey you should have taught me this to what pay your fucking because i thought i thought for
sure they said auto pay but turns out for auto pay you need a check so that they can the routing
number yeah classic so i didn't have it i didn't even have a checkbook that they can the routing number yeah so I didn't have I didn't even have
a checkbook
it was wild
for the first four years
of my life
I didn't have a check
I didn't have checks
I didn't have a debit card
I didn't have a credit card
I had nothing
I just walked around
with cash
at all times
if anybody were rolled up
in that first house of mine
they could have just
took everything
it was in shoe boxes
underneath my fucking bed
I'll never forget
I had like $35,000
in money
and in a shoebox.
Oh, you had to go off of his blow.
That's all you knew what to do.
That's all I knew what to do.
I didn't want the bank having it all either.
I was like, oh, they're going to fucking lose it for sure.
So I go to the bank and I ask for $10,000 cash.
And they're like, what's the reasoning for it?
I'm like, what's the fuck?
It's my fucking money.
What's the reason?
So we just like to keep track.
I'm like, yeah, We just like to keep track.
Yeah, I like to keep track too.
I want that $10,000, all big bills,
and it's going right underneath my fucking bed,
just like in the movies.
In the bank people, I've never,
now that I'm looking back on it in hindsight,
these people who are professional bank people had to be so mind-blowing.
That's why my bank is so loyal to me,
just because they're like,
this fucking guy is a lunatic. We finally got him to to get checks and now we're kind of teaching him this thing so don't
feel bad foxy don't feel bad i don't my house almost got foreclosed my car almost got repoed
remember that yeah yeah that's a wild scene what happens they don't teach you for this this is we
we're gonna get back into this life fucking major thing that I should have had.
I should have fucking had it.
I should have wanted it.
But instead, we just learn as we go.
Today, I learned that I didn't have Wi-Fi
because we're 30,000 feet from the fucking sky.
That lady, well, it is an airplane.
You want some peanuts?
Yeah, I will.
Thanks.
Everything else isn't keto friendly.
It's a rough day.
A rough day.
What else happened in the world?
There's a fucking big old Mega Millions.
Oh, yeah.
So Mega Mill is, it's like 880, but by the time it gets drawn, it'll probably be 900.
And then Powerball's also, what, around 400?
Nick won.
Nick won.
Powerball was last night.
Yeah, I just won it.
Did you?
Congratulations.
I won the Powerball.
Like, I got the Powerball.
You got $4.
Oh.
That's $10 or something, right?
$4.
$4.
Two tickets.
Hey, by the way.
Hey, W is a W.
Take them any way we can get them.
We had the Grote Raffle winners pull the other day.
Congrats to Karel.
Karel.
I forget his first name.
Jake or Jason?
John.
John Karel.
John Karel.
I sent him a DM.
Good guy.
He's a trash guy.
Trash man. Nice. It's a trash guy. Trash man.
That's fucking trash man.
Does he know who he's going to pick?
No, I think Phil has to do all those emails.
There's 11 winners.
We did the groat.
So thankful.
30,000 entries into this thing, which is awesome.
Powerball is a bazillion entries, and you win three bucks or whatever,
four bucks, which is good for you.
The Mega Millions, though, is $900 fucking million.
That's absurd.
That is insane.
I have a little PSA for everybody.
Oh, I like this.
This is going to be good.
Coming from the cube life, we always had,
there's always, you have like 100 people in your office,
and there's always, when it gets this big,
someone comes around and says,
do you want to put money in for the lottery?
We're all going to put them in together,
so there's going to be like $400, $500 going into the office lottery
that they're going to buy tickets.
And you always 100,000% have to say yes
because it's the cheapest life insurance you'll ever spend.
If you do not donate those $2, $5, $10, whatever the fuck it is,
and your office wins, you will kill yourself.
Yeah. You will 100 will kill yourself. Yeah.
You will 100% kill yourself because you're going to walk in that office and everyone
is just going to be breaking windows.
It's going to be the last day of school where everyone's like throwing papers in the air
and throwing the printer through the window and telling the boss to go fuck himself.
And you're going to be sitting there just doing your normal ass job.
And then you're going to go home and you're probably going to kill yourself.
Watching Sheila pull up in a new Cadillac.
Fuck you, Sheila.
So just spend the $2.
Even if you lose it,
it's the greatest life insurance policy of all time.
I agree with that completely.
And I don't want to go back to the social network,
but the guy that founded Victoria's Secret?
Yep.
He sold it for something that became worth a billion?
He sold it for like $3 million.
I used to work with a guy.
My old job.
He jumped off a bridge.
He was like 67.
He could have retired any day now.
He made good money.
Had no kids.
Was rolling in cash.
Hated the lottery.
Called it an idiot tax.
But even he jumped in when we were all buying tickets.
Who are the people that go around asking for tickets?
Are those people liked in the office?
The guy who did it in our office was definitely degenerate.
He was a big smoker, big gambler.
I always did the money bag on planes.
So you get per diem.
Yeah, yeah.
And on preseason games, you have like 100 guys there.
And in the NFL, you get per diem too?
Yeah, you get per diem for a away game.
It's like $35, $40 or something like that, the per diem,
so you get it in a little envelope.
I forget what it is.
I think it's $40.
I knew college.
I didn't know NFL did as well.
Yeah, it's a per diem thing.
I think it might be a law, by the way.
I think it might be a law since we're working on a trip.
I think a per diem.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I think it's an actual law.
I'm not certain.
$40?
It might be $50.
There's a certain amount that you have to give.
Now that I'm thinking about it, I think it's a lot.
But when it's preseason, you have like 100 people.
And the game means dick.
So nothing really matters.
So I'd get one of the pillowcases.
I'd go around with two pens.
And this is a classic game in the NFL.
And you still be, hey, you got the per diem, right?
Yeah.
How much house money?
House money. How could you turn that $20 though into two thousand bucks huh you put your number
on the twenty dollar bill that's a federal crime by the way they put their number on and then you
put it in the the into the the pillowcase and i was good at getting people into the game good
at giving people there were some rookies that were like i gotta save every dollar and i'm like i get it but saving two thousand dollars a lot better
than saving what you have right now and i would try to work them a little bit i'd go up to the
coaches even i get the coaches involved it was we had like a four thousand dollar part at one point
because we even did 50s i think at one point so it was a cool thing and you have a flight attendant
pull it and whatever happens happens right but the people who don't play that i don't understand how you don't
play it when you watch everybody else play it i didn't understand that people that had the
discipline that told me no to that 20 that was per diem and they would say no to that i never
made any sense to me but there's people out there that do that like at that moment though it's like
mom mentality right like you just have to do it.
No, because everybody has their headphones on.
So everybody has their headphones on, right?
Because they're before.
It's a why not moment.
So that's what I try to sell the why not.
I try to sell the, this is Jim Irsey's,
like he legally had to give you this money.
Like what are you going to do?
You're going to go buy dinner with this?
Are you really, what are you going to do with this?
And they're like, oh, I got things I got to pay.
The college debt thing was always something
that the rookie free agents used.
And it was a trump card.
It really was.
They're like, oh, I got college debt.
I'm like, you do.
Shouldn't you have been on scholarship probably?
No, there's a lot of guys, though,
that you got to remember,
there's a lot of dudes that still fucking walk on.
Those free agents that get picked up,
you got a lot of grinders in there no
no i get that but i assumed at one point they were put on scholarship at some point if you're in the
nfl you were definitely on scholarship but it doesn't mean you are your first correct like
gary bracket was a walk-on at ruckers and then a fucking free agent guy right i think robert
mathis same thing down there you got a lot of people that are just grinders and you make me
feel like an asshole when i'm asking them for 20 bucks. Because I spend it.
You're going to win, though.
You're going to win, though.
And then, obviously, when they don't win, I look like a bad guy.
I pulled it the first time we did it.
And then I got heat.
So I was like, I'm never doing this again.
A flight attendant.
Will you pull this fucking thing so they hate you forever?
Yeah, I'm just a good guy.
How many times did you win?
Me?
I never played.
Speaking of genius ways
to make a lot of money,
how about Floyd Mayweather?
Yeah, saying he'll make plans
to fight Khabib now.
Well, Khabib was the first one
who brought it up.
Yeah, but Mayweather,
let's give him some credit
for being a genius
because now he's prolonged his career
another 20 years because he can
make $100 million every other year fighting somebody
who doesn't box.
He's a fucking genius. He's going to be
undefeated forever. Yeah, he'll never fight another boxer
ever. Mayweather's guy was with Khabib
when Khabib said that. Yeah, Leonard Ellerbee.
He was with him and he had
the Spice Adam painted on,
goatee on his face, the whole thing.
But he obviously put Khabib up there.
Khabib can't even speak English, and he had Khabib put up to it.
This is Floyd Mayweather.
As much as you hate him, you have to.
As much as you hate him, this is you having to respect him.
You got to.
You have to respect him.
He has figured it the fuck out.
He went into a guy from, where is he from?
Badistan?
Dagistan.
There it is.
Dagistan.
And he had him like, yo, you want to make quick 50 million just like you saw Conor do?
Yeah, just say you want to box me.
And he goes, why not?
In the video, he doesn't even really say it.
He doesn't really say it.
And it took over the internet.
And now Floyd Mayweather will remain undefeated.
Boxing against non-boxers.
Won't even get hit.
I mean, that guy's genius.
He's also fucking over Conor because that means Conor can't fight Khabib if Khabib's going to fight Floyd.
And he can't fight Floyd.
Who the fuck is this guy?
Bro.
That's fucking genius.
Is there really that much of a draw there though if they're real
i'm gonna be honest when i say this i would not watch it nope i would here's me saying something
that i wouldn't do when it comes to just a little financial investment now that i this is very
not normal for me to say because i will will last second order everything. I will last second order everything.
Right before it goes, I'll be like,
yeah, fuck it, give it to me.
Fuck it, I'll watch it.
Who's fighting?
I don't even know who that person is.
But the internet's talking about it.
Fuck it, I'll watch it.
Like that Triple G guy?
I have no clue who he is.
But when the internet starts taking over
that he's fighting, I'm like,
well, I need to know what everybody's fucking talking about.
So I order it.
I do it.
This is one that I won't pull the trigger on.
I will not pull the...
That's what you say now.
It's impossible, though.
Floyd Mayweather's fights have been so boring.
The only reason why I went into it
is because of Conor McGregor.
Conor McGregor,
I ride or die with Conor McGregor.
Not so much anymore.
I think he's gotten too comfortable.
It's just like Drake.
Conor's going to start doing things
that are going to appeal to a master crowd,
so he just continues to get wealthy.
Conor and I had times back in the day.
He and I were,
I was a big fan of his back in the day.
Now he's got $100 million
and he's not relatable to me anymore.
Just like I won't become relatable
when I get $100 million.
Just a future reference.
Drake, same thing.
But this is not a fight that I would ever go,
yeah,
like they were talking about Pacquiao, Mayweather again.
It's like, who's going to buy that?
Maybe some people,
I don't know who will buy it,
but I don't think that's a big thing.
Connor and Floyd are the two best promoters in the fight game right now.
And when you put those two together,
and so Khabib got mad about promotion.
Yes.
Remember Khabib got mad.
He got mad though about it.
It's not that he couldn't talk.
He got legitimately pissed off about it.
Wait till Floyd's burning his flag. And his whole village came out and started fighting people that's like yeah
doggostan jumped in doggostan jumped in the cage and doggostan stand up bro all of doggostan fought
because conor mcgregor disrespected religion when conor was in vegas with floyd all those irish people
were there with the flag and they were singing, and it was this cool scene.
Like, if that happens with Khabib,
there's a bunch of Russians there,
and they're all chanting and mobbing.
It's not a fun scene.
It's like a prison.
Like, no.
No one wants to be around that.
Maybe Putin's just going to give Floyd, like,
$500 million to fall down.
Just so Russia can get some money to fall down.
By the way,in would never do that
never ever do that and um what if he pays that much to have the fight over there oh
yeah no i didn't think about it that the international appeal is probably pretty
huge khabib's like really big in that side of the world is he really yeah bigger than connor
like as a as a grappler and all that stuff connor is big obviously as well but like irish people don't have no fucking money
because russia is the staple of wealth yeah putin buys it i guess for everything
putin they're saying putin's worth like 80 maybe 80 90 billion something like that
whatever the country whatever the country's, that's what he's worth.
We won't talk about Saudi Arabia
because I potentially have pretty close ties
to that whole situation,
but not that any of my family members are royal families,
but the WWE is entrenched in a fucking wild PR thing right now
because Saudi Arabia doing something wild.
But they're talking about dudes being worth
hundreds of billions over there in Saudi Arabia.
There's royal families being worth hundreds of billions.
All they do is just take a dollar from everybody.
Hundreds of billions. They can buy
everything.
They can literally buy everything.
People want to protest companies for doing business
with Saudi Arabia.
Don't drive your car anymore.
You don't get to use gas anymore.
Here's my thing.
This is the same thing Don't drive your car anymore. Yeah. You don't get to use gas anymore. Here's my thing. Here's my thing.
This is the same thing that happened,
and this is going to be something that I don't normally say.
This is a real thing here, though.
Whenever the guy, Kaepernick and Eric Reid, took a knee about the community, the African-American community
being treated terribly systemic oppression everything
wanted that to be brought to light i thought it was an incredible way to protest now granted
the right the way it was spun was it's disrespectful to the military because the
military was on the field holding the flag so you can very much see how the right could spin it that
way the left just played deaf to that didn't even understand that
half of the country was viewing this as disrespect to the military which you could never win by the
way if you disrespect the military you can never win when it comes to the middle of america mostly
because in the middle of america we all have family members who are in the fucking military
that's the way it goes you know somebody that's in the military so that side starts spinning it
that way the other side starts side is doing what it is.
They're trying to move things forward, which is awesome, by the way.
I thought it was something that African-American, the community came together,
both their most wealthy people and people that are from the projects come together.
They were then invited at one point to the White House to discuss this.
And they said, no.
They said, we will not step foot in that White House.
It's like, well, what were you taking the fucking knee for to begin with?
If we can really make change here, if you go into that White House,
you can make real change, why would you turn down the conversation?
They said, obviously, the guy was disrespectful, whatever.
He might have said some very dumb things,
but if you can enact actual change from your protest,
is that not what we're fucking looking for to begin with?
Just like with these Saudis now, right? These people that the story that's coming out about old cuzzy there
is terrible and i guess he knew it was coming too yeah is that why you recorded the whole
fucking thing yeah they found the audio like yesterday that's what i'm saying so so he i
think he knew it was coming so he starts recording everything they don't even know he's recording it
but what are you supposed to do just now since they're terrible they did something terrible we're never going to talk to saudi
arabia again whenever they're getting money from us forever it's like i feel like there has to be
a diplomatic way to end it and if it has to be fucking wwe starting conversations so that women
can walk in public again i don't know why wwe is getting crushed so hard it's like is this not
instead of going to war with saudi Saudi Arabia, maybe let's try to like
actually do
democratic situation here.
And it's like,
what are you going to do?
Cancel on the people
that just cut off
a guy's fucking head?
Are you going to cancel on them?
I didn't understand
the whole go after WWE thing.
Do you think it's because
the UFC said they're done with,
I mean, I don't know.
Why, and WME,
I guess William Morris
also gave,
but yeah, them,
they gave back 400 million or something like that. But you're right. It's like, if I don't know. Why in WME? I guess William Morris also gave, but yeah, them there, they gave back 400 million.
Right.
Oh my God.
So, but you're right.
It's like, if you don't, I mean, what are we going to do?
Just never talk to him again.
Is that the way?
Like, I feel like that's become the modern staple of everything.
It's like, okay, I disagree with this person, so I'm never going to talk to them again.
It's like, well, I feel like there's some people that are paid not to tell me what I'm
pissed off about, but to go me what I'm pissed off about,
but to go fix what I'm pissed off about.
And if they aren't willing to talk and figure things out,
it's like, well, what the fuck are we doing?
Then you're just grandstanding.
In my head, you're just grandstanding.
Yeah, because he used that message for now.
If it's not to convey to the people who can actually make change,
the decision makers, they need to be talking to.
So I do not disagree with the kneeling.
I do not disagree with the protesteling i do not disagree with the protest they were doing something for their community that they really believed it
it was obvious a lot of people sacrificed their entire sacrifice everything right but the way
i think whenever they turned uh kind of deaf or muted out that the other side like hey they're
not seeing it as what you want it to be they're seeing it as disrespect to the military i think that was kind of maybe a strategic error there where they could
have been like no no no this is what we're talking about and there could have been a conversation
absolutely and then whenever like actual change was like hey why don't you come to like washington
dc and let's do it and they're like no we won't talk to him it's like well then what the fuck are
we doing here let's go if you think he's a big orange ape at least go try to see if you'll swing him the other direction yeah i mean kim kardashian got a lady
off a death row because she went and talked to him that's all kanye west goes and talks to him
and now musicians are making more money and by the way he didn't even talk to him he just yelled
into camera he just yelled into camera share his iphone password so it's yeah i think he did it on
purpose by the way i don't believe the whole kanye is
super genius smarter than everybody's doing everything on purpose like the perrier fiji
thing on saturday night live i think he did that because he thought that was awesome i don't think
he did that because he thought it was gonna take over the internet i like in my head i don't i
don't have that much respect for him right that was a strong word i have respect for his musical
abilities whenever he's on but to think that he's this mastermind of everything I think is we're giving
people a lot of credit there.
I think that zero,
zero,
zero,
zero,
zero thing was a,
was a mastermind move.
I think he knew there was going to be cameras around him.
I think he changed his password to that.
And that's something we should keep in mind if we're ever in a situation,
make a hilarious,
a fucking hilarious passcode.
Like maybe make it snake like one two three
six nine eight five like make it go like there's something that we could do but i don't think he
did that on maybe he did i don't know that's wild though but that's my take on all that shit because
i had real i'd rule i had real opinions that i never because it's not my fight right that's not my i'm not a i'm not from
the communities that we're getting like beating the shit out of by cops todd thanks for that
and uh i'm joking i'm joking but i'm not from that so i didn't think it was my place to speak up
right ever but whenever they got invited to go speak at the i'm like yo like what are we doing
that isn't this not what we're trying yeah this is not what we're trying to do and that's the same thing with this saudi
arabia thing like they did something absolutely terrible with that audio files about but we can
just never talk to them they can't even have women walk the runway they gotta fly for dresses with
drones it's wild we thought about that they gotta fly dresses with drones it's like that place is
archaic it's like hey there has to be something that kind of gets them moving forward.
Yeah, like if Dana White sent me a DM and said,
hey, I saw you've been bitching on social media about the refs
not standing the fighters up soon enough when they're down on the ground
not doing anything.
Would you like to come to my office and help me explain to me
why I need to change the rules?
And I'd be like, no, I just want to bitch to people on Twitter.
I just want them to see me.
Hey, look, it's Rocky IV.
Rocky went to Russia.
He fought Drago in Russia.
The communists, the USSR hated him.
By the end of the fight, they were cheering Rocky's name.
Imagine if the WWE is the reason why the Middle East goes to peace.
Imagine if that's why.
Because they love it, I guess.
You can actually read articles that are coming out
that the Middle East is starting to open up to WWE.
They love it.
Mostly because they have no entertainment
their entire lives.
Yeah, their first movie was the Emoji movie.
Well, that was China, I think.
It might have been the Middle East.
No, it was Saudi Arabia.
It was Saudi Arabia.
It was the worst movie of all time, pretty much.
Greatest movie of all time in the world.
Greatest in the WWE.
How'd they do that?
It's family.
Oh, really?
Oh, Zeta.
It's my Russian accent.
Huh?
We're talking about Russia, right?
Oh, is that what you were doing?
Spin zone.
It wasn't.
It's funny that we could do Russia.
We're allowed to do Russia.
Yeah, everybody hates that.
But there's so much propaganda over in the Middle East
about how evil we are because of all these things that we do
and we've surpassed the traditions that they're still holding on to.
The only way to defeat that is for them to kind of fall in love
with our culture a little bit.
There has to be.
That was Yom or Yager,
which is from the Czech Republic,
Pittsburgh Penguins hockey player, legend, blah, blah, blah.
When he came over to the States, one of the first things he did and what he wanted was
blue jeans.
Okay.
Because they were big Western culture.
Everybody wore jeans.
I guess they weren't wearing them over there because it was like a propaganda thing.
It was a communist country.
They were like, no, we don't want you to be like America.
But all the people there under the government wanted it.
Yeah.
So it's like you give them a taste and I think they see that it's okay.
We're not, you know, We're not the bad guy.
It'll be cool if WWE is the reason why Saudi Arabia becomes a 2000,
what is it, 21st century, I guess?
I was going to say plus 2000.
It's late.
It's late.
But it would be wild if the WWE is the reason.
I mean, it's a very real possibility.
Well, it's like you extend an olive branch.
WWE isn't a representative of the government, obviously,
but it is like an olive branch.
Like, hey, let's at least try to,
hey, this is what the future looks like.
Hey, this could be, I think you have to do it.
So not even because I do work for the WWE,
they're actually paying me to remain like an independent mind when it comes to all this stuff
so I don't get WWE-ified.
Basically, I don't
understand the whole thought that we shouldn't
talk to people that are either A,
terrible, or B,
different than us because it's like, yo, that's how you
solve things. Unless you go to war, unless you want
to fucking go to war, which nobody wants to do.
We don't want to do that. I don't
ever want us to be at war.
There's no good war and there's no bad peace.
Ben Franklin said that.
That sounds like it's not a bad thing.
Look it up.
Saw it today when I was playing Call of Duty.
When you're in the game, it has quotes about war.
And that was one today. I was like, oh, that's a good one. There's quotes about war. And that was one today.
I was like, oh, that's a good one.
There's no good war.
There's no bad peace.
That's honestly how I feel, though.
It's like, hey, man, what if fucking Vince McMahon becomes the reason?
Vince McMahon, 73-year-old man, dancing on the SmackDown 1000,
multi-billionaire.
Also, by the way, on his little headstone there,
was the reason why Saudi Arabia became a 21st century country.
You automatically get a Nobel Peace Prize. Yeah, I was the reason why Saudi Arabia became a 21st century country. You automatically get
like a Nobel Peace Prize, right?
Yeah, I was going to say
wins a Nobel Peace Prize.
Yeah.
His speech would be
electric.
Electric.
Walking up to the stage.
What would you say
your number one
accomplishment in life was?
Ah, bringing peace
to the Middle East.
Him and Dennis Rodman
are being honored
on the stage somewhere. But honestly, that's's how it starts like conversations have to start somewhere
like in it has to happen you know that's something that has to happen
if we really if we really want the things to come around full circle like
that is those are things not like is that WWE's goal world peace probably not
they see a paycheck well I think a paycheck is definitely a part of it
right because they are a business there's a lot of people and there's a lot of things that go into
that there's a lot of people that feed their families off of that so it is a business but i
do believe that the wwe and this is just what my conversations have a much broader view of their
impact on the world now much more now than they ever have ever. I think, I honestly believe Stephanie and Triple H
and Vince as well, I think that has become their vision
is like how we leave the world.
And I do think that is in the back of their mind.
Like, hey, maybe we can fucking affect
a little bit of change here,
which will be a great movie in like 30 years from now.
Yeah.
Great movie 30 years from now.
If the WWE is,
because they couldn't have a women's match in the first one.
They couldn't have a women's match in the first one they couldn't
have a women's match in which the the world once again bashed them they're like oh you're gonna go
over there still they won't let you remember it was like well what if they get to that though in
like two years three years what steps dude yeah what what would what if they get to that i understand
that we are a very forward-thinking place but it's not like that everywhere it's not like that
everywhere i wish it was and i think we have a chance to possibly get there but what if wwe is the reason why that happens that would be in fucking saying
the same company that had stone cold steve austin drive out in a beer truck and start spewing beer
all over everybody and sable and all this stuff with the the 10 and the body paint and everything like that,
that is the reason why it would be crazy if that's the reason why.
And I think they're really the only people that could do it,
which is insane to think about.
It's the only company that could do it.
Is there other companies that are reaching out?
Well, the UFC, I guess, was trying to.
They probably just got investing from them.
Yeah, right.
We have a company that wants to invest in us,
by the way.
Really?
I heard shout out to them.
They are listeners to the show and I guess they are a fund of cash hedge fund.
I don't know.
Is that the right word?
Yeah.
I'm not a big finance guy.
That would be the.
Think of cash in a shoe box underneath.
But I guess they're a fund, a funding group that listens to their show.
Really?
I guess one of the guys turned on another guy,
and now we play in the area there.
Oh, nice.
Very thankful for them, by the way.
Nice.
Thanks for listening.
They sent an email to all the emails that are listed for our company,
and one finally got to me.
And they were like,
we're wondering if you wanted some
capital to potentially try to grow this thing and i i sent it phil sent it to me actually and
i responded phil is like i don't think i know what this means this is a scam if they just want
to give us a bunch of money we're in we are in we earn more money on our first documentary than
what movies 47 ronin ever heard of it speed racer ever heard of it? Speed Racer. Ever heard of it? Evan Almighty.
Evan Almighty.
Steve Carell.
Ever heard of it?
There's a lot more.
Yeah.
The email wasn't from an African prince, was it?
I think it was from Nigeria.
We did get one of those one time.
I just think they support small business.
Hold on.
This is a real thing.
This is a real thing.
They're like, we're fans and we think, I guess they have invested in this type of business before entertainment venture i think they ventured
into this particular capital realm of entertainment and i think they understand that cash does help
and that's basically what they're saying in the email is like yeah we we would love to be a part
of the process like i don't know what they want in return, but...
Their money back.
You want to...
What do we got to do?
We got to promise like a 10%, 15% return?
Yeah, probably something like that.
A return on investment.
That's all they're looking for.
We'll give you a 5% interest on your money
if you give it to us just back.
It's like putting a CD.
We'll give you 5%.
There it is.
Maybe we'll do the fucking Carl Nassib, 10%.
Fucking idiot.
Fucking idiot. Maybe they back the the fucking Carl Nassib, 10%. Fucking idiot. Fucking idiot.
Maybe they back the Brinks truck right up to here.
If they do that, just back that thing up.
Go ahead and dump her out.
We'll get all the shoe boxes.
We'll line them all up, and we'll just keep them right here in the office,
right across the street from the methadone clinic.
We'll do everything good with your money.
You've been in a lot of nice studios lately.
I'm sure you've got some ideas.
Our place is so shitty compared to those people.
It really is.
We can't touch anything.
We can't touch this.
It has heart, though.
A lot of character.
This place has character.
Grit.
Grit and character.
A lot of grit.
A lot of jam.
A lot of sandpaper.
This place is very, very nice.
Especially for this area.
What sucks is, the hindsight,
we didn't know as much then as we know now.
What's that?
About certain things.
About lighting and, you know,
Yeah, we have no idea.
You thought those little box little lights was a bad idea?
It seems as if...
We didn't ask the questions.
And it wasn't like we picked these lights.
We just didn't ask the questions like,
hey, how do you plan the lights?
We were just like, yeah, hurry up.
Yeah.
By the way, you're six months late.
Do I want those fucking lights?
Will there be light in the room? Yeah give me the fuck in there six months late by this point but with that being said a nice investment could do a lot of things there's a lot
of a lot of documentary ideas i would love to whip together which are pretty cheap to make
and it seems as if and we didn't even sell it to anybody, by the way, except for the humans that bought it.
Yeah.
We didn't sell it to any distributor.
We didn't do anything like it went straight to the people.
No networks.
Nothing.
Small business.
Cut out the middleman.
Small business owner.
Oh, yeah.
Pat McAfee.
OTT.
Sports biz.
SPL.
Probably a great idea not putting it on iTunes in hindsight.
Yeah, because they would have took 30%.
Right.
Yeah, we couldn't get on there first
of all we could not get on itunes because we're not big enough to get up there within five weeks
what a blessing yeah what a blessing so we were forced literally forced to make a whole new website
to sell it off of our website we were forced and it didn't get finished by the way until like six
hours before that pre-order thing everybody was sending sending us messages like, I go to badmagfyshow.com, I don't see it.
It's like, me neither.
I don't even know if this thing is going to work.
So to get on iTunes, you have to go through an aggregator.
And then the aggregator runs up to,
it's basically if you're friends with iTunes,
this is a way for you to make money.
This is a way for you, people forcing,
you got to pay your 20% basically to the fucking street corner.
And then they run you up to iTunes.
We were so small.
We couldn't pay.
There wasn't an amount of money we could pay.
Yeah, they wouldn't let us.
I was like offering to pay 10 times what they were charging.
Like, yo, can we get this thing up in like two weeks?
Like, nah, five, five, six weeks.
Yeah, they wouldn't even get back to me when I said that.
Five, six weeks.
It's like, well, fuck, now we got to figure this out because we already said the date we're releasing.
And we couldn't release it on that date. So I was like, ah, we had now we got to figure this out because we already said the date we're releasing and we couldn't release it
on that date.
So I was like,
we had to build a website
and go straight to the people.
And then the growth idea
came from fucking Connor.
I'm like,
we need to think of,
he started,
I will say my brain,
obviously,
small business owner
ran with it,
made it a fucking monster thing.
But it was Connor
who was like, you should give away like ALCS tickets.
I think the Red Sox, is there any AL?
Is that what they are?
Yeah.
Yeah, so you wanted tickets.
Yeah, he just wanted to go.
Yeah, that's what he wanted.
Smart.
Yeah.
He was like, maybe you give out ALCS tickets or whatever.
And I was like, that's a really fucking good idea, actually.
Good idea, Connor.
So I write it down.
And then obviously I get in bed at night and I can't sleep
because I have no idea if this documentary that we've been saying
we'll put out on October 10th is either going to be on the internet to get,
first of all.
And then I was like, well, we got like six days to market this fucking thing, too,
because we've got a hundred things going on.
So I stay up.
I just, I'm like, oh, give away the LCS ticket.
That's genius.
So then I sent a text over to SeatGeek.
I'm like, yo, you guys give us some tickets if i need them he was like absolutely man whatever you want i'm
like cool and i made the announcement that they were uh superb owl tickets and the other tickets
before telling c geek before telling c geek and then they got back to like this is awesome yeah
and they actually tossed in or uh wrestlemania as well they cannot promote that they were giving away Super Bowl tickets, though.
There was a lot of lawyers.
That's why when I went on Rich Eisen, it was like superb ow.
So I think I actually have to buy them from SeatGeek.
I think I'm buying the tickets for the raffle so that they don't get sued.
There's like a fucking, there's a whole situation that has to happen.
It was a wild scene there for a little bit.
But then I was like, oh, every other sponsor we have,
these motherfuckers sit there with us
no matter what happens.
So we start going up
and that greatest raffle of all time
honestly came together in like 12 hours.
It came together in like 12 hours
and it was so thankful for the sponsors.
It was like,
well, I'm never going to release anything ever again
without this option alongside of it.
There's no way,
because if you buy,
I think that's a part, like if you buy, if you buy i think that's a part like if you buy
if you bide it's late if you bought that documentary like i think you should there
should be a little bit of excitement like a chance that really you could get broken off
and then i think that's a cool thing to have with it and also i'm very thankful for anybody
that fucking buys it so here's hopefully 11 really cool things any good job shadow Nick Morales I feel like our small business
is like a group project
and we don't do anything till the very
last second but we have
the best project in the class
never had a better analogy
because we have so much happening
we have so much
hey man did you do your part of the project
yet no no no I'll get to it we'll do next week but it really is because there's so much happening. Hey man, did you do your part of the project yet? No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'll get to it.
We'll do next week.
But it really is because there's so much happening.
Like I have five things before something pretty huge on Sunday.
Sunday is a pretty big thing that's going to happen.
I can't announce what it is.
I'm doing something on Sunday that's pretty large.
And I have five things before that that I haven't even thought about.
Like I haven't even thought about. Like, I haven't even thought about Sunday yet.
I guess on Saturday afternoon, I'll be like, all right, here we go.
Let's think about Sunday for a second.
And then it's like, all right, got to go do it.
Let's see what happens.
And in my head, I retired so that I would be able to prepare for things.
But now there are just so many things.
It's like, hey, there's no time to prepare.
I would have to be such a cordon. We would have to be such an organized operation if we really wanted to prepare like a month so many things. It's like, Hey, there's no time to prepare. He, I would have to be such a cordon.
We would have to be such an organized operation if we really wanted to
prepare like a month out for things,
which I think is what takes us to the next step boys.
Oh yeah.
I think that's how we leave the small business and move into an empire.
And I don't know if we're ever going to do it.
I don't know if we're ever going to do it.
It'd be a pretty tough thing.
This Texas thing that you sent me,
Todd,
you said you thought I'd be intrigued by.
Yeah.
What did you think about it?
So Texas is not letting people graduate
unless they go through a course that teaches them
how to interact with police?
Yes.
They're going to train.
This is like a part of a life course that we've been talking about, by the way.
So they're going to train students.
Basically, they have to watch this video
and go through this little training
that's led by a teacher that's certified
to instruct this class
about how to interact properly with police
when you're stopped for a traffic violation.
Got it.
Whatever.
And the thought is,
this will keep innocent people
that aren't armed from getting shot during traffic stops.
Yes, because what happens is the cops always say they made a move they didn't expect,
things like that.
Oh, they reached for this, they did this.
That's always the...
Which, by the way, as a police officer, you're living it,
and you talked about this the other day,
you want to throw yourself into a haunted house.
You want to walk in that situation and feel that adrenaline.
Cops, though, literally every single car you walk up to to you have no clue what the fuck's gonna happen yeah no because you see enough video now i see enough
videos on the internet where you got probably jumping on the car with a gun shooting there's
so many things that could happen not that happens a majority of the time i mean it does happen that
is i guess always in your head but i it's such a texas thing to do to be like yeah i think it's i
think it's the driver's fault teach these future drivers how to just obey keep their mouth shut
like it's yeah i i like they're not putting on the cops at all all right get that training thing
but how about some training for the cops put them on the put them behind the driver's seat a little
bit and teach them the other person's perspective a little more you know what i mean
yeah i think there needs to be a lot of that a lot of that because it's so many of these
the videos i hate the most is when there's it's so confrontational when the it's some lady or
what she's like i i don't i'm not going to show you my license i shouldn't i don't have to show
you my license or whatever and then the cop is like my license or whatever. And then the cop is like, oh, fuck, is she right? You can tell
he's like, is that a law or is that not
a law? And then they end up in some, and then she gets
tased or whatever. You know what I mean? It does
happen. How does it even get to that level?
It seems as if that happens.
Yeah, and it's dumb cops.
Imagine a person getting pulled over on the way to that
class. He was like, put your hand in the wheels.
I wasn't in class today. I don't know what to do.
It's such a crazy thing.
How to act like police.
It's such a dumb thing to me. I'm on my way.
I'm on my way.
Can you wait like 45 minutes?
This is today's course.
The high speed chase
is today's course. You can just wait.
I'm going to fucking pass the class.
Do you think it's a smart class? I think it's a dumb thing.
The class? Yeah, I think it's a smart class? I think it's a dumb thing The class? Yeah
I think it's dumb
I mean
Pay attention bro
Yeah
I mean listen
Have you ever had a problem
Being pulled over
Hands on the wheel
Get off
I get max penalty
Every time I'm involved
With a police officer
I fear for Zito's life
If he ever gets pulled over
Wait a minute
How'd you get in this?
Just classic
Like
How'd we get here?
The decisions I see you make every day.
I've gotten out of every single ticket in my life.
Just ask him a bunch of questions and get shot.
Get the fuck out of here, guy.
I got pulled over one time because I had a ground effects kit on my car in high school.
Like neon's underneath.
Yo.
Fast and Furious just came out, okay?
Get off my back.
Will Mack reach out to me. Will Mack reach out to me.
Will Mack reach out to me, the leader of Nitrous Rush.
That Nick was in.
Best friend.
Was not in Nitrous Rush.
I would like Will Mack to know that if I was ever invited into Nitrous Rush,
I would have joined Nitrous Rush.
With Jeep Lightning?
With Jeep Lightning, but I didn't have any kits on it.
I didn't have any kits on it, so I never got asked to join.
It also didn't go more than 50.
True.
All these things are true. I don't think there was any Nit. I didn't have any kits on it, so I never got to ask to join. It also didn't go more than 50. True. All these things are true.
I don't think there was any nitrous or rush when driving that thing.
I'll never forget.
We were driving to a soccer tournament.
It was like an hour and 15 minutes away, and we were on the highway going like 50, getting
passed by everyone.
And it was also 28 degrees outside.
And it did not have a heater.
Didn't have a heater.
It was always a hysterical time, a Jeep landing.
A Jeep, and it had two 12s in the back.
It didn't work.
It was just a box.
People sat on it, came with the Jeep.
It was awesome.
That thing was electric.
Go Jeep Lightning.
I love that thing.
Anyways.
The whole point of that was I-
I never got invited to Nitro.
I had my windows tinted, and I had them done that day.
So when I got pulled over, I couldn't put my windows down or I would fuck up the tint.
So I had,
I had to open the door as the cop was walking up the car.
I was like,
he's going to fucking pull his gun on me.
Like what am I supposed to do?
So I just like cracked it open and like kicked it open with my foot and sat
there and he walked up and surprisingly didn't say a word.
Like didn't,
didn't act weird at all that I just kicked my door open and he was
standing i was like what he gets it bro i don't know if he saw like i had tape over the window
control so i don't know if he saw that he just thought they were fucked up or broke or something
but i was like this is a bad spot there's no way by the way there's no way that that class is being
taught in this class no if you just got your windows tinted, can't put it It has to be a real thing.
You gotta wait like five days. This is like
300 bucks. I'm gonna burn this right now.
Tinting has had to got easier and better.
Last time I got it was like
a year and a half ago and it's still the same thing.
Guy with a credit card. Yep.
Guy sealing it with a credit card.
Getting the goddamn little bubbles out.
Then you gotta wait like five days.
I have my tint pretty heavy. Oh, it's like an iPhone bubbles out. Yeah. And you've got to wait like five days. I have my tint pretty heavy.
Oh, it's like an iPhone screen thing?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah, that's really what it's like.
I thought it was a different kind of glass.
No.
No, it's just like a little piece of a thin little plastic thing.
You really are dumb.
You didn't deserve that.
I thought it was a cool thing.
You thought they took out the glass and put it in a different piece of glass?
Yeah. No, you didn't. Come on. That's what I'm saying. I thought it was a cool thing You thought they took out the glass and put it in a different piece of glass? Yeah
No you didn't
Come on that's what I'm saying
There's no way you thought that
You thought an entire new piece goes in?
Yeah of course
So like when something's half you think it's like half that glass
And then half regular glass that comes together like one of a
Like a black and tan beer
You think that
You thought it was the same glass he used in a beer bottle.
Oh, this is a Bud Light.
Can I get the Heineken glasses?
I like this thing to look like an aquarium.
Unbelievable.
There's no way.
That is not true, what you just said.
I refuse to believe it.
I refuse to believe it.
I refuse.
Anything else happen I should know about?
Vin and Terry's 10 points away from the points record on Sunday.
Nine away from tying, 10 away from taking the lead.
It could happen.
Do we think he gets it against the Bills?
Yeah, he very well could, huh?
Fucking Derek Anderson's starting.
Under, under, under.
I can't believe that the Bills are robbing us from making jokes on the internet
when Nathan Peterman throws a pick six.
Okay, hold on.
Just like I said last time about Nathan Peterman throws a pick six. Okay, hold on. Just like I said last time
about Nathan Peterman
still having a job in the NFL.
We talked about the kneeling earlier.
Who's the quarterback for the
Bulls? Derek Anderson.
It's very difficult not to
say, boy, I wonder
if Colin Kaepernick is better than
Derek Anderson. And it's
tough not to be like, nah, he's not.
He's not better than Nathan Pick 6 Peter.
He's not better than Derek.
I don't even know who Derek Anderson is.
Derek Anderson, in his defense, I mean, I think it was 10 years ago.
Just like a Kerry Cullen signing?
He did go 10-6 with the Cleveland Browns.
When?
When I think we were interviewing Willie McGinnis. When Willie McGinnis
was at the Browns for those two years.
They went for it. Yeah, I want to say it was like
2010 maybe. Bro,
he won 10 and 6 with a guy who already
has a football life out about him.
He's been canned back up
probably for the last like eight years.
He told me he ate dick once.
I was sitting in front of him over a Bears game.
What did you just say he did? What? He told me to eat a dick.
Told you to eat a dick?
Yeah, he turned around
and grabbed his nutsack
and was like,
eat a dick.
What'd you say?
I was with a group of fans
that were just yelling at me.
Oh, it wasn't you.
It wasn't you.
But it was eye contact
right to me.
When he was on the Panthers?
No, no, Brown.
That was his season.
And he told you to eat a dick?
He told me to eat a dick.
I like him a lot more now.
He also... Just for future reference, I like him a lot more now.
Just for future reference, I like him a lot more now.
He got a lot of shit.
I think it was on the Cardinals.
And he threw a pick in a game.
And then he went on the bench and laughed about it. Yep.
On the sideline?
Yeah.
I remember that.
I wasn't laughing about it.
What did he say?
Oh, that was him with the blonde hair?
Yeah.
I remember the press conference.
And then he got real defensive.
Yeah, he said, what me and him talk about is none of you guys' business.
By the way, very true.
Because he could have been laughing about how terrible he was.
Yeah, yeah.
That's something he could have been.
Like, a guy like me who's just a sarcastic prick in a situation.
I'm like, wow, hey, you're pretty fucking terrible today.
And then that could draw a chuckle because it's like a realization moment.
And it's all about what those cameras want to show
on the sideline.
I've always said that.
Jay Cutler got treated so unfairly
by the camera people showing him on the sideline
strictly because it was so meme and gif-able
because of how miserable he looked.
But every quarterback's miserable on the sideline
if things aren't going well.
They just choose not to show it.
Jay Cutler was always showcased in his worst state.
Just like Derek Anderson there when he's laughing.
I bet you now he's just always miserable on the sideline.
I bet you it scarred him forever.
It scarred him forever.
He throws a pick this weekend.
He's just going to fucking just sit there and maybe he can just hide in the corner.
That is wild.
Eli Manning gets that camera too.
I think it's just their faces.
It's hard not to.
If you're sitting back there as a director and you see all these shots, you're like,
what the fuck?
Show that.
Show that.
Jake Cotter looks like he has a cigarette hanging out of his fucking mouth.
It'd be hard not to press that.
Press that button.
That guy's laughing.
He just threw a pick six.
Let's fuck his life.
Show that real quick.
Let's show that one real quick.
That's going to be hard not to, I guess.
Eli Manning always gets caught with that look on his face,
like the first time a person sees how a cow pees.
You know what I mean?
Just like.
I don't know.
That's the first thing that says on his face.
I don't.
I would like it to be known that I don't know what you mean.
But in my head, I just...
It shoots backwards.
Have you seen...
I did not know that.
See, I think I would have had that face.
I think I would have.
What the hell?
I'd like to get your opinion on this.
Nick Bosa, DN for Ohio State.
Yeah, I love it.
Good.
Thought so.
Fine answer.
Fine answer.
I love it.
Yeah.
There's no reason for him to try to fucking come back and play hurt
when he's going to be the first overall pick in the draft.
They kept saying it was a lot worse than we heard, the injury.
The injury was a lot worse than we heard.
It was a lot worse than we heard.
It was like, well, who was trying to cover up what the injury was?
Iowa State, probably Urban Meyer.
Urban Meyer would do that.
Urban Meyer would not do that.
Don't put that on Urban Meyer.
He is an upstanding citizen
but you're 100 right that is the case and remember the bosa family is about their business yeah
joey sat out drinking was not scared no was not scared to sit out too they did it with a straight
fucking face i'm a rookie i don't care this is what we're doing the bosa family if it's anything
about they are about their business.
And that kid's the truth, too, I guess.
Oh, yeah.
He was guaranteed, like, top five, maybe number one.
He's a better prospect than his brother.
Good for him, man.
Good for him.
And granted, is that a senior or junior?
I think he's a redshirt junior. So it's going to be his last year with his teammates.
Like, in college, I missed my college friends and the team a lot whenever I left.
I missed the team, like us going and partying after winning
and working out at 6 a.m., like that team because we kind of grew together.
I don't know if Ohio State's like that because you have so many five-star recruits.
I don't know if they're like that.
I don't know if they're all boys with each other.
Or in the world we live in now, if it's possible not to be completely self-indulged.
Probably also when he sees his brother having or in the world we live in now if it's possible not to be completely self indulged. Probably also different like when
he sees his brother having success in the NFL
and all the money in the life he has going on.
Man, my entire life I've been better than him.
My whole life I've been better than him.
But if he had to gotten hurt, you think he
would have played.
But you rush that back, you get
injured again and now you damage goods for the NFL
and the difference between a first pick and like a 20th pick is a few million dollars.
So that's something to think about.
It's like the same thing when they give people shit when a team's like 7-5
and a guy's kind of hurt and he doesn't want to play in the meaningless bowl game.
I think that tide's turning.
Really?
Especially with this Bosa.
There was a lot more positive comments for Bosa than there would have been.
I didn't see anyone care.
A couple years ago, Bosa's getting crushed right there.
Crushed by ESPN, Fox Sports, NBC Sports, DAZN.
They just signed a dude at $350 million, DAZN, by the way.
Yeah, Canelo.
DAZN, DAZN.
Yep.
I think it's pronounced DA-season.
Never heard of it.
AJ Hawk, actually.
I just saw him.
He was interviewing Rodgers, and he had the logo on the microphone
so I don't know
if he works for them
he would say he does
Michael Buffer
or Bruce Buffer
whichever one's
the more famous one
Bruce
he did the
let's get ready to
we can't even say it
I couldn't even finish
that sentence right there
the zone paid for that
that was their first commercial
and the commercial
was him not knowing
how to pronounce it
are they on TV
I don't think I fully understand.
I think it's an app.
I think it's an app.
Really?
I think it's a streaming service.
Because I first found out about it because we were talking about the Bellator fight.
Yeah.
So it's, yeah, it was like in addition to.
So I don't know.
It must be growing.
They have $400 million to just throw to somebody.
350, yeah.
It's an 11-year deal there.
Or 11-fight deal.
Yeah.
So they probably only have to pay him.
They'll probably pay him fightly.
But if they bankrupt on that, there's really nothing.
There's nothing.
What's his face can do, right?
I'm not going to say that company's going to bankrupt.
Let's assume it's a big bank.
Maybe Saudi's behind it.
It's a very big bank.
Maybe the Saudis are behind it.
But that is something where the company can definitely
fuck over the athlete any time right there.
Because you've got a big pop here with this signing.
It was everywhere. 11 fights,
$350 million? Yeah, richest athlete ever.
That's crazy.
How is that? That's what it said.
That's what the ESPN headline was.
Wow, makes sense. Richest sports contract
in history. Yeah, exactly. That's what I thought too.
Wasn't A-Rod like $400 million?
Well, Giancarlo Stanton just signed $350 million five years ago.
So I don't know.
So it's per fight?
Longer term.
So it has to be per fight, right?
So it's $30 million.
What is that?
$34 million?
$32 million?
Roughly, yeah.
It's probably like $32 million per fight.
That's less than Floyd Mayweather.
Yeah, I don't know. That was the headline, though. Richest contract in history. That's less than Floyd Mayweather. Yeah, I don't know.
That was the headline, though.
Richest contract in history.
That's their spin zone, right?
Could be.
That doesn't make much sense to me.
It's rich.
It's fucking great money.
By the way, he just became unrelatable to me.
Just like Conor McGregor and Drake.
That guy just became very unrelatable to me.
Fighters have always been unrelatable to me.
Yeah, true.
Probably if we look into it,
that's like excluding pay-per-view rights and all that stuff.
So it probably does equate to Mayweather money or more.
By the time he's done.
Because Mayweather throws every kit and caboodle into his figures
when he releases them.
Well, that's because it's his business doing it.
He should, by the way.
I bet you that $350 dollars is nothing no ticket no pay
per view right i'd assume it's no ticket no pay per view right has to be yeah because they're
paying that's a lot of money but if they bankrupt there ain't nothing the fucking canelo can do
good for him though 350 million dollars you can go get a nice island there this is in the fight
game i think when people get comfortable it's tough because there's it's really tough to want
to go get punched in the face at fucking 6 a.m for hours and hours every single day of your life whenever you have 200 million
dollars sitting in your bank account it's very difficult to have that chip on your shoulder so
it says it's a minimum of 365 million oh so he does have pay-per-views and shit yeah probably
gotta recoup it though once you recoup this then we'll go 50 50 on anything but above that that'd
be interesting.
So maybe that's why it's the richest contract,
because the guaranteed money is more than anybody's ever gotten before.
Because it's guaranteed $360 million.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
At least he's exciting to watch.
Yeah, he is a lot of fun to watch.
I mean, he puts on a show.
Yeah, big time.
He fucking knocks your head off.
What'd you say?
It's five fights.
What's 11?
There was an 11 number in there.
Let me go back and look it up.
Five fights is... If it's five fucking fights... What's 11? There was an 11 number in there. Let me go back and look it up. Five fights is...
If it's five fucking fights.
That's incredible.
Good for him.
I see.
So I don't know how to watch Canelo's next 11 fights.
It's 11-5-5 here.
11-5-5 here.
Hey, Bailey.
Yeah.
Just because I read it today.
Because whenever I see somebody get $350 million,
my first thought is, oh, I'd like to be able to get $350 million.
How do we do it?
And then I look into it, and I'm like, yeah, 11 fights.
That's a lot of fucking fights.
In five years?
Yeah, he has to fight more than twice a year, which is a lot.
By the end of it, he's just going to get killed.
Yeah.
He's going to get just probably the last three years of this fight,
he's just going to get fucking killed.
Yeah.
Now, granted, Seth Rollins could keep up with that fucking schedule no off season no off season at all uh all right hashtag end gang hashtag end game um just send us something man
11 50 beat pat mcfee today on my social media. 21 cup table, beer pong.
How do you feel about it?
I don't feel great.
I'm going to be honest.
I don't feel great.
I am not a beer pong player.
I am a flip cup player.
In your defense, you have said that always, forever.
Since forever, I've always said that.
I am not a beer pong guy because in my head,
beer pong is four people max playing.
So I always like the atmosphere of the party to be
a we're in this together so flip cup you can have 12 50 20 15 is gonna be tough but
twice you're gonna have a lot of people playing and it's a super bowl atmosphere when it gets to
the end beer pong i can understand that there's a lot of strategy there's a lot of skill i understand that there's a lot of talent but for me i was always trying to get to one place
in one place alone and that was everybody having a great fucking time in an insane mood and beer
pong doesn't do that it's more of a it's more of a skill technician do i think i'll figure it out
yes i have faith in me that i'll figure it out in five minutes i'll be able to figure it out
but this is not a lock for me this is not and be able to figure it out. But this is not a lock for me.
I would like to go on record that this is not a lock for me.
And if you bet the no, by the way, I think it's plus one something, 150.
They want people to doubt me.
They want people to doubt me.
A wise man once said,
I would never bet against Pat McAfee in anything.
And then he said,
until I heard you were doing 30-yard football
throws.
Into a garbage can.
And then he hammered against. That was Matt Hasselbeck
that said that. That is the wise man
I'm referring to was Matt Hasselbeck.
And he did bet against me in that 30-yard
thing. And he was 100%, right?
That was so fucking hard.
It's a long way.
You missed by this much.
It's a clown. I will missed by this much. Yeah, that's what it is.
It's a clown.
I will say that your aim is extraordinary.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
That means a lot.
I need that tomorrow at 11.45 a.m.
Yeah, director Morrell.
Today.
I need that in fucking 10 hours from today.
Ty, good luck editing this.
Hashtag end game.
Hashtag end game.
The old lady that told you the...
Oh, yeah, we're on an airplane.
My face.
What does your wish look like?
No, my...
That'd be funny.
One or the other.
Either my face, because the gif that I have from the NXT pre-show
where Adam Cole made fun of my jorts,
that's pretty much the face I made.
It was like, we're on an airplane.
I took a picture of the wi-fi sign right above my
head i literally took a picture of it i was like they took out the no smoking and put on this wi-fi
thing i mean ladies this is a very normal situation i understand first of all um yeah i don't really
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He's almost asleep right now, so he'll have some heaters tomorrow.
Dig, same thing.
Zito, you might be on meth because I heard you were streaming for a while,
and I don't know how you're still up.
He was here at 9 this morning and never left.
I never have seen you show a sign of fatigue. It's a real power to have. You must still up. He was here at 9 this morning and never left. I never have seen you show a sign of fatigue.
It's a real power to have.
You must just collapse.
When you get home and it's time, you just collapse.
It's willpower.
Every once in a while, I'll FaceTime him when he's at home.
It's always in the same position.
Shirtless.
And the phone is low, shooting up.
And it feels as if it's a weird scene.
I was watching Bull last night.
It gets intense.
I haven't seen Anton.
He just seems like the guy who literally, as soon as he lays down, he just falls asleep.
Yeah.
That's what he has to be.
There's no gradual decline.
It's just out.
It's a mess situation.
Yeah.
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you're gonna enjoy it have a good time thank you so much heartland radio 2.0 tomorrow cheers ladies and gentlemen joining me via call from the carolina panthers practice facility
moments before walking into a special teams meeting is a man who hit a 63 yard game winning
field goal for the panthers over the giants last week is a guy that I got to watch in college dominate footballs, both kicking and punting.
Got a chance to meet him at an awards show, watch him win, then meet him in a competition.
The absolute biggest leg that you have not heard of or talked about enough, Graham Ganneau.
What's up, Graham?
Dude, that was amazing.
I don't think I've ever had an introduction like that.
That was the best.
Graham, I have to tell you this.
You deserve it because I was searching through your Wikipedia last night
because obviously you and I know a lot because we went to college at the same time
and did the same position.
That's right.
You were much better than I was at everything.
That's right.
You were much better than I was at everything.
But whenever you got into the NFL, you had a wild, wild, wild road.
You started out, where was it, the Redskins?
I started off with the Ravens.
They undrafted me out of college.
And then I went from there to the UFL, from the UFL uh washington and then washington cut me and i ended up here so it's been a wild ride man but i'm glad i ended up here
did you ever lose hope uh no not really i was always pretty confident myself um there was times
in washington you know that uh i didn't make my kicks that i should have and i started to question
it a little bit um but yeah I think it was after
uh Carolina picked me up that I started getting more and more confident but um yeah those times
in Washington man they were rough because you come out of Florida State highly decorated a lot
of hype around you you end up with the Ravens you get cut from there you go to the Reds or you go
to the UFL right when I remember watching you on UFL, because I just got so lucky in a situation with the Colts,
when I saw you in the UFL, I was so confused
because I thought you were so damn good.
What was it like going to the UFL?
Was that like a humbling moment?
Was it a pivotal moment, or was it just like a part of the journey for you?
Man, it was kind of all that.
The UFL, you know, my agent calls me,
and I'm hoping for a call from the NFL team,
but I had no experience, so nobody was calling.
And he said, you know, you should give this league a shot.
So I was like, all right.
So I went to Las Vegas.
Coach Fossil was our head coach,
and I actually just talked to him on the phone
for like 20 minutes a couple days ago.
Awesome guy.
And, you know, I show up for the first practice,
and, I mean, we're in the middle of the desert in Casa Grande, Arizona.
And, I mean, there's literally sandstorms blowing through.
Like, after practice, I'm cleaning the sand out of my ears.
There was times, like, you had to close your eyes because you couldn't see anything.
And we got, like, roadrunners running across the field.
There's scorpions.
I mean, it was wild.
It was absolutely insane.
And then we would fly to UNLV in Las Vegas on game day.
And we'd show up, get off the bus, and play the game and head home.
And, I mean, there was times, like, we played in New York
when the Yankees had a home World Series game,
and there was probably ten people in the stands.
So there was pretty crazy times.
But, I mean, it was probably the most fun I've had playing football
because you had a bunch of guys out there that were just playing for fun.
I'm thankful for it because it got me to where I'm at today.
Your run with the Carolina Panthers has been so beautiful to watch.
You have become such a consistent monster.
I think you got a lot of hate from fan bases, right?
You hit that monster kick a uh a couple weeks ago and i
tweeted out a video about it because i lost my mind it was so magical to watch you do that yeah
i lost my mind you and pilardi have done so i'm so proud of pilardi by the way he was in the colts
camp he has such a monster leg watching him finally get a real opportunity was awesome i it's
absolutely awesome but you hit that 63 yarder
i completely lose my shit i put the video out and then i heard a couple of chirps from like
redskins fans out of nowhere oh man yeah out of nowhere because you just hit probably not probably
one of the top five greatest kicks probably in nfl history you get rid of the super bowl kicks
uh you get rid of a couple other maybe the snow game
kick from Vinatieri but you're talking about a second longest kick of all time game winner
outside it was just it was one of the greatest kicks of all time and there's still Redskins fans
that are like oh he couldn't do anything for us. It's like, yeah, but can you not respect where the man is at now, you know?
Did you kind of get hardened by maybe the fans' reactions to you in different places?
Yeah, without a doubt.
I mean, the Redskins, obviously you can make a ton of excuses
for why you get released from a certain place or whatnot,
which I could do as well.
But at the end of the day, I mean, if I make my kicks, I'm still there.
So, you know, I could have done a better job but i mean i definitely use that as fuel uh for the fire
and um i still hear it from redskins fans i mean we played there just the other day and i was still
hearing it from them and of course i go out there and miss my first extra point but it was it was
funny i was like oh dang it but you know it happens whatever you're too you're too good of a
guy into christian but i'll say it fuck them all all. Who cares? You're a monitor now. Your kickoffs are something that I don't think gets enough
respect. You hit balls 80 yards, and then that kickball video with your kids playing in your
driveway. How has your leg become so strong or remained so strong all these years? You've got
to be 30-something at this point. Yeah, man, 31. Trying to keep up with you for all that time.
You're smashing. I think you have the touchback
record for percentage, so I'm trying to chase that.
I respect that. Hey, man, don't
think I don't know that.
I appreciate
that. No, but that's
pretty incredible. Yeah, man, I think
the biggest thing is just staying healthy.
For a long time, I'd really try to get after it in the
weight room. I'd think I'd get tight and hurt myself.
But I've been pretty healthy here as of late, man.
I'm just thankful.
You know, for as long as I can remember, I've been able to kick a ball a long ways.
And I think that is just God-given.
And I try to make the most of it.
Dude, I got Pilates sitting here next to me, and you made him.
He had the biggest, cheesiest grin on his face when you're talking about him he did he came in i sprained my knee uh before the hall of fame game which
eventually got canceled so pilardi didn't even get a chance to play in it it gets canceled because
the paint crew ruins everything in ohio but i got to watch i got to watch pilardi in practice and
i'd never heard of him before i I remember him in college at Tennessee.
I remember watching him in Tennessee, but I'd never really heard of him before.
And he shows up at a practice.
I have this sprained knee.
I can't really do anything.
And he just starts launching balls.
And he was so consistent.
And I started talking to him.
He was such a cool dude.
And I was like, how is this?
Because there's a lot of bums in the league.
I think we can all agree with that.
There's a lot of guys who are trying to find their way. I'm like, how is this? Because there's a lot of bums in the league. I think we can all agree with that. There's a lot of guys who are trying to find their way.
I'm like, how is this guy not in the league?
And then I saw him get on with you guys down there in Carolina.
I was just so happy for him. And now he got paid.
Now he got paid down there.
I know.
He's been killing it.
He's really, really good at what he does.
And, you know, he can step on the field and smash some field goals, too.
I got to tell him to chill out a little bit.
I'm out there and hit a 60-yarder.
I mean, he hustles dudes, too, in the locker room. We chill out a little bit. I'm out there and hit a 60 yarder. I mean, he hustles dudes too in the locker room.
We got this little mini basketball hoop
he's out there shooting and
just hustling guys. I mean, obviously
not for money because there's no gambling in the NFL.
Of course.
Of course there's no gambling in the locker room.
You walk out
for that 63 yard field goal.
Are you and Pilardi talking about anything or is there no
conversation before you kick a ball not a whole lot of conversation you know I told him what kind
of lean I wanted on the on the kick and or on the hold and he you know he normally has a good idea
anyways what we're going to do and you know I when I took my steps back I look up at the play
clock and it's at four seconds so I hurried up and took my steps over, and I'm giving him some quick nods,
like, hey, hey, let's go.
So then he turned, and they snapped the ball when it was at one second
and just went out there and tried to kick it straight.
What do you mean by different leans there?
Like that ball, did you have a left-to-right win?
Because that ball started tailing a little bit there.
Did he have a different lean for that?
Yep, so there was a left-to-right win,
and it had been blown pretty consistent
throughout the game.
You know, Aldrich
on the Giants, he had hit a 52-yarder,
so I kind of had a good idea of what the ball was going to do.
So I tried to aim
a little bit left of center, knowing that
the ball would come back a little bit, and
I just played it enough, because that thing almost
squeaked in off the post, but
I knew that
we can't have the ball lean too straight
up and down because I'll lose a little bit of power on it.
Mike gave me the best hold, man.
I was able to hit a clean ball.
Genius. I thought I was the only one
doing that with Vinatieri. I thought I was
a super genius with the hold, changing the
hold with the wins. I shouldn't be surprised
that the incredible Polardi's doing that for you.
How far did you think you had that game? What was the line?
Man, you know what? In pregame, normally I try to
back it up a good little bit, but that game, I think
the furthest back we went was 65.
But yeah,
I felt good. We got the adrenaline going
and I felt like I could hit from wherever.
Chase Blackburn, our special teams coach, went up
to Ron and was like, hey, he's good from 65.
So,
I felt like I hit it pretty good, didn't catch any grass,
and I was pretty stoked about it.
It's a huge ball, dude.
I would have been so excited.
I don't even know how you – you definitely – you took your helmet off.
You looked good.
That's a good idea, by the way, get that handsome face on TV.
Not that you did it on purpose, but it happened.
It's so funny.
In pregame, I looked at the guys
And I was like, you know what
When I hit a game winner, usually I just
High five and just try to keep it normal
Act like it's a normal kick
I was like, I'm never going to run away like that
And then fast forward
To the last play of the game
And I'm just losing my mind
It was crazy, they definitely let me hear that afterwards
That's a dream kick though
That's a kick like though. That's a
kick like when you're kicking on a field all by yourself with just a bag of balls in your head.
You put yourself in a situation like, all right, 60-some yarder, game winner, what's going to
happen? Like that is a dream fantasy kick that you stepped up to the plate and knocked it home.
Not a lot of people can do that, Graham. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. Literally, I used to think
about that as a kid watching Dempsey's kick down there in New Orleans. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. Literally, I used to think about that as a kid,
watching Dempsey's kick down there in New Orleans.
And, you know, just always wishing that you'd have a chance like that.
You know, you watch Trader step up and mash the 64-yarder
and just these other dudes, you know, Janikowski, Akers,
all these guys just stepping up.
And you always hope for that chance.
So I was pretty fired up to get that.
What do you think of that Carolina Panthers team down there?
Yeah, we got a good team. I feel like we up to get that. What do you think of that Carolina Panthers team down there? We've got a good team.
I feel like we let one slip away this past
week.
We've got a really solid team. I don't think
we've played together like we can yet.
Whenever you've got
a quarterback like Cam, you can win every game.
I'm excited to see
what the future holds. We're going up against
the defending Super Bowl champs
this week, so that'll be a fun one.
It's supposed to be 10 to 20 mile an hour winds,
so that'll always make it interesting and fun to kick in.
But, yeah, man, I'm looking forward to it.
There ain't nothing like waking up in a hotel in a city
and just looking out the window and seeing a flag on another building
just going at a wrecked, completely straight,
just blowing as hard as you can.
Be like, yeah, this is going to be a great day.
This is going to be a great day. This is going to be a great day.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Got all kinds of different leans on those holes in those days.
Respect.
Well, good luck out there.
What's Ron Rivera like?
Is he awesome?
Oh, he's awesome.
He was in there earlier shooting some hoops with the guys.
He's a good coach, good players coach.
I mean, he'll let you have it if you deserve it.
But, yeah, a lot of guys respect him,
and he's the type of guy that's going to stand there during team field goal
and try and get in your way and stuff.
But, you know, you've got to respect that.
He likes to get in the head of Mike and I, but can't let it happen.
Well, he probably helped harden you,
probably helped harden Pilardi to get him his gig, get him rich,
and get you in the record books with that 63-yard game winner.
Good luck against the Super Bowl champ.
Thank you so much for taking time to chat with me.
Tell Pilar, yes, Edwood's good.
Tell Pops I said hello.
Greg Olson, Captain America, tell him congrats on the new foot.
And I hope you guys have an incredible season.
Thank you so much, Graham.
All right, appreciate it, Cousy.
Hey, see you, bud.