The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 015 - Grandpa McAfee, NFL Recap, & Aliens
Episode Date: October 23, 2018On today's show, Pat recaps a wild weekend dressing up as a grandpa and hammering field goals for cancer research at the Colts game, the guys dive into a full NFL recap including Hue Jackson wanting t...o call plays for the Browns again, Amari Cooper being traded to the Cowboys for a 1st round pick, the Titans going for 2 and the win in London, the judgement call that affected the outcome of the Cowboys and Redskins, and Justin Tucker missing his first career extra point. Pat also rants about the CFL's post about who they think the best kicker on the planet is, the guys chat about Elon Musk definitely being an alien and his series of tunnels slated to be opened in LA in December, discuss Rae Carruth being released from prison, and cover everything else going on in the world. It's a good one. Come laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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a chance to do a lot of really cool stuff i mentioned last week's on last week's podcast
that i have something huge coming up on sunday but i haven't even really got to think about it
because so much happened that is true let me set this the story behind the uh pappy grandpa mcafee uh three
field goals for 70 000 that happened on sunday at the colts game we'll talk about vinitary helping
out old nicky boy oh yeah big time hard big time nick saw derrick anderson playing quarterback
coming into the colts building and hammered the under vinitary misses two extra points
doesn't get sent out for a field goal.
All of a sudden, it's a half a point under the over-under.
Am I correct?
Yeah, and I know how much that record means to him.
So that meant a lot to me that he would be willing
to put that off another week to give me a win.
And that record meant a lot to me, too.
I stayed for that entire fucking game hoping to win the position.
Me and Todd were accosting people
that were leaving Lucas Oil Stadium early
when there was still a chance.
All Vinny needs is five more points.
And there was like seven minutes left in the game.
We had the ball.
Very easily could have went down, kicked the field goal.
Now all we need is two points with five minutes left.
There's another chance for Vinny Terry.
That all-time leading scorer that Vinnyieri could have got in Sunday's game,
people were just leaving.
Like they were trying to beat the fucking traffic.
This is a once-in-a-lifetime effect.
Get your fucking ass back into seats.
That's what we were saying.
Those Colts fans are like those horrible parents.
You're like, hey, Mom and Dad, I won the Nobel Peace Prize.
You want to come to the ceremony?
And they're like, I don't know.
What's the traffic going to be? Washington. You're like, hey, mom and dad, I won the Nobel Peace Prize. You want to come to the ceremony? And they're like, I don't know.
What's the traffic going to be?
Washington, whatever it is.
What's the traffic like on the way out?
I think if we get a head start, we can miss the Nobel Peace Prize.
But we'll see the beginning, and then we'll be able to get out of there before everybody else.
That was honestly what happened.
But it turns out, just like I thought, Vinatieri has a hurt groin.
I was – He called it right away, too.
I literally was watching him kick, and I'm like, oh, it looks like he's hurt.
It looks like Vinatieri's hurt.
And it turns out I was 100% right.
Coming out of halftime, he was late, which would have never happened.
I'm like, oh, Vinny's hurt.
Vinny's very –
And then you watch the ball fly.
It's like, oh, he's definitely –
And then after the game comes out, he has a hurt groin.
Doesn't get the points record.
Don't know what the Colts are going to do for the next couple weeks.
Well, I got a banger of a poem coming out as soon as vinitaria fox you and i really want to work on it we took our time on it i feel pretty good about it
it's very good it's a very good and we thought we're going to be able to release it this past
weekend i was excited maybe it happens at the raiders this weekend if he powers through this
groin injury by the way snow game kick, Oakland Raiders, John Gruden.
All-time leading scorer, potentially, Raiders, John Gruden.
So that would be a nice coming-of-age story for the $100 million coach.
Fuck them.
Who knows?
The Bills did their best to help Vinny, too.
The Bills.
Boy.
Five turnovers.
They're just handing the ball over.
Nathan Peterman, Derek Anderson, Colin Kaepernick, still not in the NFL.
Still not in the NFL. Still not in the NFL.
And I am not a big, like, yo, Colin Kaepernick deserves a chance guy because I think with every decision you make, there are repercussions.
I honestly believe there are repercussions,
especially in a business, right?
This is a business.
The NFL is a business.
Nick, we'll get to your decisions too.
But I do believe all these terrible quarterbacks playing
football on a regular basis only feeds the narrative though that like hey there's a guy
literally there's a you know him he's in every fucking game he's in a commercial of every fucking
game he's a very tall athletic guy can he make all the throws no but can your quarterback no
definitely not your quarterback's completing it to the other team more often than not you should
think about maybe bringing this guy.
It's tough not to think.
Colin Kaepernick is still out there.
Neither here nor there.
Bills suck.
Bills Mafia doesn't deserve it.
Why Josh Allen not play?
Is he hurt?
Yeah, his elbows hurt.
Okay, makes sense.
All right, good.
He went to Dr. James Andrews, so you know it's legit.
That guy gets everybody.
The marketing that motherfucker has over the orthopedic world.
Of all time.
The greatest of all time.
A few weeks, he'll be back.
I tried to get my knee done by him.
Yeah.
I literally got put on like a waiting list.
I was so far down.
He's like, oh, I'll have my assistant doctor check it out.
I'm like, well, I'm not coming for fucking John Jackson,
who's the assistant of James A.
I'm coming for you, bub.
It was a very interesting dynamic.
Got mine, Dr. Clotewijk here in Indianapolis, Indiana.
Did a great job. Did a great job.
Did a fine job.
Did a fine job on my knee.
I'm right back in the game.
Literally punting balls very well right now.
We'll see how that goes.
But before the Colts game, a 70-year-old man, 80-year-old man maybe.
I don't know how old that old balls guy was.
I'd say 80.
He was on the Mayflower, so he's pretty old.
80, low 80s.
From Baltimore.
1987.
But I got a chance to do something with the Colts, which was really cool.
The Colts' new PR guy, Matt Conte, is a friend of mine.
He was the assistant PR guy for the Colts whenever I was there.
He was the one who was told that he had to come talk to me
whenever they weren't happy with something that I did.
So he and I, we built up a friendship.
He gets it, by the way.
He's a guy that gets it.
He understands that these are jokes and I'm not offending anybody.
There's nothing bad happening.
It's just jokes.
But he and I, he became the head PR guy.
So now he's trying to basically mend fences between me and the Colts,
which is a cool thing because I had quite a hard feeling towards the Colts
leaving because A, I was getting fined by a barbarian for bullshit where he was terrible
at his job. B, I didn't enjoy
the way they just hand out number one jerseys to
everyone, which they still do.
Saw a lot of
one jerseys just being handed out.
The bridge needed some construction. Yes, so
Conte is trying to basically mend
fences. Like, hey, listen, Colts have done a lot
of good for you, Pat. I'm like, I agree. The Colts have
done a lot. Jim Ursae and I have never like, I agree. The Colts have done a lot.
Jim Irsay and I have never had any beef.
The Irsay family has taken care of me well.
I've also done a lot for the Colts, though.
Conte sees that, right?
So they asked me two weeks ago, they're like, here's what we're thinking.
First, we have the shoot with Bud Light before the game.
Basically, it's like a friendship test with Bud Light.
Will you come be the host of that?
I'm like, absolutely, sure.
They're like, fine.
They paid me for it, which is really cool. And then a day later, they're like, hey, that same day you're coming to the Bud Light. Will you come be the host of that? I'm like, absolutely. Sure. They're like, fine. They paid me for it, which is really cool. And then a day later, they're like, hey, that same day you're coming to the Bud Light thing. Is there any way we could potentially do a cancer research
fundraiser with you? I was like, absolutely. Right. Because I've done a lot of work with the military.
I think I'm at like 750, maybe $800,000 that I've donated to military foundations throughout my
career, whether it's tickets and money and scholarships and all that shit.
But I kind of, although I still will continue to help military foundations,
my foundation does that, I kind of want to also help out cancer
because I got a chance to check out my family tree.
And I've always said this, that son of a bitch is not tall.
And the gardener of that thing, the landscaper of that tree,
the one that saw them all down is cancer.
So it's something where I kind of wanted to pivot towards and not pivot but also help that out so
they said here's the idea we have basically just like in jackass johnny knoxville bad grandpa you
put on a grandpa thing you saw the uncle drew thing you'll put on this old man mask that we're
gonna buy it'll be a good mask i promise it'll be good mask you'll go out you kick uh 20 yard 30
yard and a 40 yard field goal off of a tee we'll donate 70 000 if you do that if not we'll donate
30 000 if you only hit two out of the three blah blah blah i'm like cool sounds good to me
in between that conversation and then i had to go to the wwe i had to do a full meeting with like
two different companies i had to travel to like three different cities.
I didn't even think about this.
I completely forgot it was even really happening until about Saturday.
I didn't know about it until Friday.
You're like, yep, you're going to be filming this.
Yeah, so I retired so I could focus more on these types of things.
But what turns out happening is just so many things just start lining up that it can't even happen.
So on Saturday, I'm literally sitting at my house i'm like oh fuck dude when was last time you kicked a ball off a tee because it's a
very different ball game people that don't i'm always at a bigger disadvantage than a person
who has no idea how to get because to them just kicking a ball off a tee they're just kicking
something it's for me that inch difference is a huge difference when you're
kicking a ball it's like i i started like almost like oh fuck seventy thousand dollars in line for
cancer research bro this could be helping a lot of people and you're just gonna wing it you're
you haven't kicked a fucking ball of a t in two years you're just gonna wing it so i like got up
out of bed and i was like sam need you to come shag some balls she's like what do you mean i was
like well i'm going down to the barn because it was so windy
so the ball wouldn't stay on the tee.
So I had to go down to the barn
and kick out of the barn into my backyard.
I kicked two balls off of a tee I had
and I was like, yeah, we're good.
We're good.
We'll see how it goes.
We're good.
We're good.
So I go there Sunday.
I do the Bud Light shoot beforehand.
We end up awarding a guy named Ryan
and his fiancee Cecily from Texas.
Sideline passes
because they knew each other.
It was like a newlywed game.
That video should be pretty good, by the way.
That should be a pretty cool video.
Then I go into the stadium, and it was all so rushed, so quick.
Everything was very quick.
As soon as I do that Bud Light thing, we go right inside for the cancer research thing.
I sit down in a green room, basically, in the basement of Lucas Oil Stadium.
It was huge, by the way.
The amount of room that they give these people who aren't on the team is insane.
It was bigger than the Colts.
How big was that fucking room we had?
About the size of a locker room.
It was the size of a locker room.
I had a flat screen TV.
I had Dasani Waters.
The Colts, it was like first class operation.
I'm like, this is so nice.
Thank you.
As soon as I get in there, Blue comes in.
Colts mascot, Blue.
He comes in with his grandpa mask, my outfit, my costume.
And they're like, all right, we're up in 14 minutes.
I'm like, 14 minutes?
I haven't even put this fucking mask on yet.
So I put the mask on, and it's fantastic.
As everybody has seen, this mask is fantastic.
Absolutely great.
It fooled everyone.
Everyone.
But there was no practice kicks beforehand
because there was no time or place to do it.
There was no time or place to do this.
So I put the mask on. we walk out to the little thing i am no no more than 13 minutes after i put that mask on i am in front of 60 000 people right so we walk out with the cane the whole thing
blue drew that skid up by the way incredible job by him he knew it was going to do well on the
internet and has very thankful for blue and the colts asking me to do that so i get out there and they're like the first one you should definitely
miss in the first one i toe poke it and i realized that when i look down with that mask the mask
slides up so literally the mask which is on my face molded to my face anytime i look down all i don't know what that is what's silicone rubber it's like
a rubbery yeah anytime i would look down it would push the mask up right so i look down for that
first one i realized oh i can't even see that fucking ball right there i kicked it i toe poked
i couldn't even see it so now it's basically like a half blindfold like i can see the ball but then
as soon as i look down it just gets blocked by the mask and then i have to kick it so like after the first one i'm like oh no we could have never
accounted for this we could have never thought about this mask blinding me every single time
so then the second one i go to kick and it was just like whenever i did the guinness world record
blindfold thing it was just like i took a picture where where the ball was, and then I kicked it.
And I was like, all right, good.
And then we run back to the next one.
And at the 30-yard line, we had a little trouble there.
Someone couldn't put a ball in the fucking tee.
The tees weren't the best tees.
I saw you get – the mask was on,
but I could see you getting frustrated under the mask.
Like, get the fuck out of the way.
I'll put it on the tee.
There was a lot of things happening,
but me not being able to see the balls was very interesting. could have never accounted for it make the 30 yarder make the 40
yarder finally and then the mask reveal the city was awesome it was just the stadium eruption by
the way very very cool it was a cool pop by them but it was such a an incredibly cool day with the
colts it was like really awesome to be back with them. It was just,
it was fun. It was very fun. We did something really cool. The Ursae family and the Colts donated $70,000 to the IU Simon Health Cancer Research Center. If I wouldn't have made all
three, they would have just donated $35,000, I believe. So it was pretty cool to be back there,
but there's no way we could have accounted for the mask sliding up and me not being able to see it was an insane situation it was i was like oh fuck there's a lot of people
watching right now and i can't see a damn thing but i was very very the internet loved it the
internet enjoyed it and then the anvil smack it was awesome undefeated whenever i hit the anvil
beat the hell out of the bills let's keep it keep it moving. Get some Bills and the Browns, I saw.
They're bringing you in for the heavyweights.
Listen, I do some
scouting. Hey, Pat, you want to hit the anvil?
Who are we playing? Patriots. I'm out, dog.
I'm out.
Winners only, bro. Winners
only. It was a cool day, though.
The guys here got a chance to go to the game,
enjoyed a little bit.
Yeah, thank you for that.
Thank you to the Colts.
That was a very nice atmosphere.
The Colts gave us a sweet.
To watch the Colts do well.
The Colts gave us a sweet.
It was a little difficult because I'm on this keto diet.
Uh-huh.
So stadium food is tough.
Yeah.
There was a pizza sitting right there.
The Colts supplied us with food and drink.
Very, very nice.
And the Colts, it was a first class.
I've never been treated that good by the Colts.
It was first class. You walked in there, you just
grabbed the hamburger patty, started eating it out of your hand.
I was going to say, that's the only thing you could do.
Hey, you're a savage. Have some respect.
For who? For you guys?
Yourself.
What are you talking about? Just grabbing
meat, hunks of meat, and eating it out of your hand
like an animal. He's a ketosis. He has to do that.
Yeah, that's what ket. Yeah. What was that?
Or fried mac and cheese bites.
Pizza.
Pizza or nachos dipped in cheese and chili.
Oh, my God.
It all looks so good, by the way.
It was good, yeah.
It was a beautiful day, though.
Colts get a big win.
Vinatieri doesn't get the record, but we raise a bunch of money.
The internet seemed to love it.
Oh, man.
Just know that there was a lot of panic.
It was very similar to that panic that happened at IU Bloomington
when I took two edibles.
And it was like, these people have no clue how close this is
to being a full fail moment.
It was awesome, though.
Very thankful for Blue and the Colts.
Very, very thankful.
I want to talk about something that happened this weekend.
What is it?
This is a For the Brand
announcement. Okay.
For the Brand announcement.
This is from a CFL article.
And I actually wrote
this. I wrote this out because
I wanted to make sure I get all my thoughts clear.
So what you're hearing is me reading
something that I wrote and
my thoughts about it.
Move over, Adam Vinatieri.
Pro football has a new all-time place-kicking king is the first line of this CFL article about Lewis Ward making 45 consecutive field goals and passing Vinny's consecutive field goal record.
It's very impressive, okay?
Vinny's consecutive field goal record.
It's very impressive.
Okay?
Very, very impressive that Lewis Ward of the CFL has kicked 45 consecutive field goals.
Very impressive.
But that is very clearly a CFL record.
Vinny has the NFL record.
This is apple to oranges.
Yes, kicking footballs through uprights is the constant,
but the vastly different environments is what matters here.
Kicking is a head game, a mental battle between human and ball,
and pressure is a real thing.
We see it every single weekend.
So although what Lewis Ward has done is impressive
and warrants a potential shot in the NFL,
in a situation where the punter kicks off for him
because he's got a little bit of a baby leg,
it is nowhere near kicking in the NFL.
Billions of dollars being on the line.
Avatars running four twos off of the edge.
Millions of people watching.
Not 10,000, not 2,000.
Millions of people watching. It 10,000, not 2,000. Millions of people watching.
It's just a very different animal entirely.
At J.H. Gills tweeted me and said,
it is very similar to when they said Ichiro beat Pete Rose's record for hits,
but they also included his Japanese league at bats.
These are two different animals.
I don't appreciate them coming at Adam Vinatieri on this first one.
I'm a fan of the CFL because they follow me and all that.
I almost unfollowed him, though, and told him to go fuck himself.
Move over, Adam Vinatieri.
Pro football has a new all-time place-kicking king.
Like, yo, you better chill the fuck out.
Lewis Ward, very impressive what he has been able to do.
But in a game that revolves around pressure,
you cannot compare what a cfl record is
to an nfl record you can you just can't do that the fact that they even did that makes you want
to make them not even a league anymore like cfl you're not even a league anymore because of the
stupidity but i think what they were trying to do is get a little hype for their guy which i respect
he was once a security guard for the stadium he's currently kicking in. Now he's kicking in there, has a record.
But I just don't think it is anywhere near comparable.
I think it's impressive, but it is nowhere near what happens in the NFL.
No, that was clearly a clickbait headline
just to get people to even look at anything from the CFL.
Exactly.
What do they got?
Let's assume that some Canadian stadiums are very windy.
Some Canadian stadiums are very windy. Yes.
Some Canadian stadiums are probably a nightmare to kick in.
They might have 7,000, 15,000 fans in the stands.
Who knows?
That's like a high school game in Texas.
But to compare it to a game that is being broadcasted on national TV with millions of people watching,
millions of dollars on the line, billions of dollars possibly on the line,
60,000, 70,000 people in the stadium alone.
I just have no idea how they can even compare the two.
And they are, by the way.
They are running with it.
They are running with it very hard that he beat Adam Vinatieri's record. It's like, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
You did not.
You have a CFL record.
You don't have an NFL record.
Did they double down in the article
or was it just the headline oh yeah oh yeah they continued they're talking about how it because it
is impressive i would like it to be known yeah to be that consistent at your job no matter what
your job is is impressive sure but to take a shot at vinit terry the fuck out of here i bet you the
kicker's not happy they did that who lew Lewis Ward? Yeah. I bet you he is excited.
You think he is?
Yeah, absolutely.
No, I think if you just know who you are, they should not have compared him to...
Self-awareness.
Yeah, self-awareness.
He used the word king.
A king rules a kingdom.
The guy's not in the NFL.
Yeah, you're like president of your homeowners association.
It's like comparing that to a king.
You know what I mean? It's like you that to a king. You know what I mean?
It's like you're in a different realm there.
Maybe Lord.
I made contact on all my pitches in the Frontier League.
Is there any MLB player that has made contact 100% of the times he's at bat?
No, you're the hit king.
That's true.
So I'm a professional.
In professional baseball, I have the highest percentage of contact with the ball.
Best contact hitter of all time.
Of all time. That's what it would be like
with the CFL thing. Yeah, I'm about done
with their bullshit.
I'm on follow. I did not appreciate it.
I just wanted that to be, I had to get that out early.
Good. Because I was not, CFL actually sent me
that, sent me that to read.
They DM'd it. They're like, here's something you might
be interested in. And I read the first
line. I almost sent back.
Why don't you just quit fucking Twitter?
Why don't you not?
I was not happy about it.
And you're giving the guy respect as far as a kicker.
That's an impressive feat.
Very impressive feat.
He had a 52-yarder, too, to seal the deal,
which was his first 50-yarder of the entire thing.
That kind of says all of that.
There's a lot of things I want to say. his first 50-yarder of the entire thing. So... That kind of says it all.
There's a lot of things I want to say because Vinatieri hit like six 50-yarders
in the first 20
because I was a part of that consecutive record,
just for future reference.
They sent me that message
just taking a shot at Vinatieri.
He was like,
you know, I was holding for that fucking...
You know, I'm a part of that record,
so you want to come at us.
Let's not get crazy.
Oh, wait, what?
Your team might lose the fucking 45th Gray Bowl?
Nobody knows the fuck that is.
Are the uprights wider in the CFL, too?
I'm not sure.
I'm really not sure.
I have no idea.
I enjoy watching CFL football because it's football on when NFL isn't on.
So I understand the CFL thing.
But it's like, come on, bro.
To act like you're even on the same level there.
Let's please relax a little bit.
Let's please pipe down.
Speaking of piping down, there's a head coach for this Cleveland Browns team
who needs to just shut the fuck up.
Hysterical.
Fourth overtime in seven games for the Cleveland Browns.
Yeah.
They've technically played more football than anyone else this year.
Yep.
From all of us watching their training camp through Hard Knocks,
I feel like we are a part of this team now, you know?
We all have been forced to kind of have a little bit of a feeling
towards this team.
We have our favorites, but pulling for the Browns not to suck
seems to be a common thing amongst all fans now.
Yeah, I would agree.
After Hard Knocks, it kind of made them humans.
It humanized them.
We're all like, you know what we all
want the dog pound to be a little bit happy
we kind of like them
from the hot gut to Baker Mayfield
being electric they are a very
lovable team let's talk about the
only thing in my eyes that hasn't
been exactly lovable and that's
Hugh Jackson's lack of self awareness
it started in episode
one of Hard Knocks when he said,
I'm going to win here.
I know it was something I mentioned at one point,
that that really stuck out.
Because it was the first time I'd ever heard a coach use I instead of we.
Because I think the coach is mostly the person who should be preaching
that this is a we thing and not an I thing.
So as soon as he said that, I knew that this was going to be an issue,
but that's the Hugh Jackson difference.
After this latest game,
he said he wanted to take back control of the offense,
basically saying he wants to cuck Todd Haley.
Although rumors on the street would say
Todd would like that personally.
Professionally, that is just a wild lack of self-awareness.
Swinging Todd Haley's offense in in 2017 ranked eighth in the NFL.
Hugh Jackson's 32nd.
Dead last.
Now, I know there are outliers.
Ben, A.B., Lev, Bell being just a few.
But Todd was hired for a reason.
To groom Baker into an incredible QB.
A QB's first coach is huge in its development.
B.A. was Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck's first quarterback coach.
McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers.
Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid.
Jared Goff and McVay, you see what has happened there.
Tom and Belichick.
And now Hugh wants to take away a brilliant offensive mind from Baker Mayfield,
jeopardizing Baker's entire career because he's scared he's
going to get fired from not being relevant with that browns team and also a complete lack of
self-awareness hugh come the fuck on you're the only thing that is hateable in that entire bro
the dog that runs through the office love him gm chewing gum obnoxiously. Love him. Brad Paisley
making a terribly awkward appearance.
Love it. Snoop Dogg.
Everything seems to be lovable for
the Browns except for the head coach who has
zero self-awareness. This is
absurd. This is just absolutely absurd.
You might forget that he was also
calling the plays when they went 1-31.
0-16!
0-16. 1-15.
I'll give you every year that Hugh Jackson
was a play caller in the team's record.
2003, Washington, 5-11.
2007, Atlanta, 4-12.
Raiders in 2010 and 2011,
8-8 both years.
2014, Bengals is the first time with a winning record
10-5-1, they lose in the wild card.
Bengals in 2015, 12-4,
losing the wild card. Then the Browns, 1-15 and 0-16.
This guy, this guy, there's a lot of ability to point the fingers, right?
You can start pointing fingers, but at some point, you know,
there's three fingers pointing back.
Like, oh, it's the team sucks.
Yup.
Oh, this sucks.
This sucks.
Quarterback sucks, which is a big deal.
This sucks.
This sucks. But if you just is a big deal this sucks this sucks
this but if you just have a trend of terrible like at some point you gotta have some self-awareness
and be like yo this is my fault this is 100% my fault and now he wants to cuck Todd Haley
Todd Haley has got them more ties than you Jackson ever got he's whenever he said I know
I'm gonna win here he should just said I know I'm gonna tie win here, he should have just said, I know I'm going to tie here. Yeah, I mean, there's no credit given.
Maybe it's his superior play calling
that's got them to the point they are from 0-16.
To have two wins and to have been in every game.
Todd Haley coached that Arizona team to a Super Bowl.
Granted, they lost, but they were built entirely on offense.
They had no defense on that team.
Todd Haley is a wild
character and we saw it in the hard knocks episode when hugh jackson said when you're sitting in that
chair i can see how you feel but when you're in this chair i'm in charge and todd haley he bowed
down because that could have been a moment where todd haley goes like hey why don't you go fuck
he could have but he didn't by the way he could have he didn't. I'm surprised he didn't. By the way, he could have. He didn't. He bowed down to that. And now, in return, Hugh Jackson's going to do this.
Four overtimes games means there are four plays away from him,
four more wins.
Correct.
That's all that means.
Right.
And I think if you listen to Cleveland Browns fans,
they are so excited about the potential of this team
after what they've had to suffer with Hugh Jackson's offense
the last couple years.
And now, just because a guy bangs a 59 yarder by the way Catanzaro after he missed a 36 or something like that how or maybe it was a 30 yarder I'm not sure it was in the 30s but he
misses that he hits a 59 yard field goal there that's the only reason why Hugh Jackson's speaking
there is because a roll of the dice hits and it's just absurd to me that hugh jackson has no clue no there's nobody on his
team like yo shut the fuck up just sit there and just hope that you win a game and this will be
100 200 maybe 300 better than what you fucking done here i saw something else too that was like
the second half of that game uh they had one of their best offensive halves of the year.
Like only one punt, they had two touchdown drives,
and I think a field goal drive.
And apparently he is on very thin ice.
Hugh is.
He should be.
As soon as he said that, he should have been fired.
He should have been like, listen, we've had about enough of you, bro.
You're saying you want to go do more now?
No, no, no, no, no.
We're trying to make you do a lot less.
Like get the fuck out of our city.
That would be awesome if that happened.
It's no secret that I was not the hugest
fan of Todd Haley in Pittsburgh,
but he clearly has made the Cleveland Browns
offense much better than it was with Hugh.
And Hugh, as a Steelers fan, Hugh
coming in to help with the offense? Super excited.
Super excited for me.
And as a head coach who is an offensive
guy, and you say that now you're going to start
helping with the offense, what the fuck have you been doing during the week?
Aren't you sitting in on offensive meetings
and probably helping with the game plan?
I hope not.
Like, for Baker Mayfield's sake, I hope he's not helping at all.
Like, I hope he's just out of there.
It's just why this guy, this fucking guy.
If Hugh gets fired, though, do you think Todd gets the job?
Yes, for sure.
Todd or Greg.
I mean, they've both been head coaches.
Todd Haley would be the head coach over greg williams strictly with the the way it
would look if greg williams was to be hired and i i'm excited for the todd haley being the head
coach of a team again i mean i like i do like todd as a head coach do you think when todd sits down
he drops that same line you guys are in those seats and i'm rising i mean they're definitely
dogging you the first like three weeks doesn't have meetings in the facility.
You go out in the parking lot and you huddle around his Camaro.
You're fucking ripping Marlboro Reds, flicking them on other guys' cars.
Dude, he's the best.
He's the best.
But the thought that Hugh Jackson thinks he's the answer,
because that's what he was saying.
Yeah, pretty much.
Hugh Jackson is saying that I'm the answer.
This is Hugh Jackson being an I guy, not a we guy again.
Because even if you are going to start doing that,
why are you announcing it at a press conference?
No.
This is just like Hugh Jackson not getting told information
because he was leaking it to the media last year.
They were scared to tell him things because he was the snitch to the media.
It's just like, what the fuck are you doing?
I mean, teams have done this before.
Like, Ty, hasn't McCarthy gone back and forth
playing calls a bunch of times? Yeah, he does it like almost every year
it seems like. But yeah, he does do it a lot.
He'll relinquish play calling at the start
of the year and then like by week eight or week nine
he wants to do it again. So, we'll see.
But I'm sure it's not something he
publicly... Correct, that's what I'm saying. He's never done it.
He's never thrown the coordinator under the bus. No, definitely not.
He doesn't go, you know,
Todd Haley doesn't have much of a the bus. No, definitely not. He doesn't go, you know, Todd Haley.
Doesn't have much of a track record.
I do, though.
Which is a wild statement since he has a better head coaching record than Hugh.
This dude is the worst.
I came around on him.
Nope, you called it episode one and you should have stuck to that.
I know, I came around on Hugh Jack City,
which is a rap song if you want to listen to it.
I came around on him and I should have known
that when bullets start flying, guys that say i instead of we will throw people under the bus
every single time that's the way i guys are he's just trying to buy another week to save his job
you know just like the jaguars bro they're a bunch of guys down there throwing everybody under the
bus man jaylen ramsey said to the media you guys walk in here you see what's going on here between
each other and the coaches it's's like, we don't.
Can you tell us?
Because he kept saying, you can see it.
It's obvious what's happening.
It's like, are you guys fighting with each other or the coaches?
Who's fighting who?
Like, what's going on?
I think that Jacksonville Jaguars locker room has become just a nightmare, just like what
would happen in Seattle.
This seems to be the same thing that happens, right?
Seattle's defense was their thing.
Their thing.
Legion of Boom led them to success.
Jacksonville Jaguars' defense led them to success.
You pay Russell Wilson, you pay Blake Bortles $18 million.
Blake Bortles is getting $18 million.
Russell Wilson probably in that same area there.
Then the defense sees that and they're like,
you're paying this motherfucker more than us
and we are the reason we're here.
And then all of a sudden,
when you're supposed to keep business out of it when you're supposed to keep business out of it,
you're supposed to keep business out of it, business starts lurking in,
especially whenever you've got a lot of big personalities in there,
and it's only a matter of time before all shit hits the fan.
And that's what happens.
It makes sense, because it can't just be as good as Leonard Fournette is.
It can't just be that Leonard Fournette's gone,
that they've unraveled to this extent.
So it has to be more shit like was a reason why people didn't believe
in the Jaguars last year, and it's always been Blake Bortles.
Like, Blake Bortles, early in his career, got a great stats
because they were always behind late in games
and they were throwing late in the games.
And there was some point where he stopped knowing how to throw.
Like, I don't know what happened.
But then it came back, and then it left again.
Yeah, but then you could also tell they didn't trust him last year
because during the playoffs, you could tell they don't trust him.
Bro, that Patriots game.
The kneel down.
Yeah.
They could have either traded for Teddy
or got Teddy before the season for $3.
Jets literally got Teddy for $3.
Yeah.
You know what name's floating out there?
Who?
Colin Kaepernick.
Colin Kaepernick is still out there.
You put him running quarterback with the Jaguars with a good defense.
Even though their defense is getting torn apart, by the way.
Yes.
They keep talking.
Another 100-yard rusher.
They keep talking shit on me.
That defense hates each other, too.
I don't know how that happens.
That defense hates each other, it seems like.
It's a lot of egos.
A lot of egos.
And when you're playing together, those egos are fine.
When you're winning.
Yes. That's what I meant. Everybody makes fun of front makes fun of front runners they're like oh he's a front
runner he's a front runner that means he wins a lot that's what that means that person the front
runner they win a lot but it does it is a real thing whenever front runners people who are used
to succeeding start failing you learn a lot about people and that jaguars team is failing quickly
hate to see it you hate to see it.
I hate to see it with all those loyal fans for years and years and years that are real chirpy when they're winning.
You are real chirpy.
Real chirpy, that fucking fan base when they're winning.
They're going to end up in England.
They've been fans for a long time.
They're going to end up in England somehow.
Tom Coughlin's going to probably reboot that whole team.
That team's going to start back at zero, and those fans are like,
we were back for a fucking year.
We were back for just a second fans were like we were back for a fucking year we were back for
just a second and now we're we suck again my sources rumors oh they're just they just floated
out to me you know just a little floater floater tom might bring eli down oh boy that'll help that
it's terrible smooth everything right eli's so bad why is he so bad because he's so old that's
what it is he's lost anything that he had in his arm is gone.
Well, and he's not mobile at all.
And their line is just so bad.
So there's self-awareness, right?
Mm-hmm.
How come Eli didn't just realize that it's done?
How come Eli hasn't just realized that the time has come?
I just imagine he's probably so competitive,
he probably can't admit that to himself.
And you know why?
Do you think?
Really?
Checks don't bounce.
Checks don't bounce, guys.
Especially after seeing what Peyton did. Yeah. To come back after that injury and just, you know why? Do you think? Really? Checks don't bounce. Checks don't bounce, guys. Especially after seeing what Peyton did.
Yeah.
To come back after that injury and just, you know,
pull a few more years out and play at that high level,
I think he probably sees that and he's like, I think I can do it.
I think Peyton played one more year too long, too.
Yeah.
Last year there was a lot of handoff.
A lot of handoff.
A lot of handoff.
That defense won that Super Bowl for them.
A lot of handing off.
Which, by the way, you can call a guy a system QB
or you can just say whatever's successful. That was Bowl for them. A lot of handing off. Which, by the way, you can call a guy a system QB or you can just say whatever
is successful. That was successful for them.
For Eli, they still got him doing shit that
was like 10 years ago. It's like, yo, Eli can't do
that anymore. But if they do anything against
Eli, they have the entire PR,
the Manning PR firm against them.
When Geno Smith went in for Eli
last year, you would have thought,
you would have fucking thought
that Aaron Rodgers was getting benched
for geno smith you would have thought that tom brady was getting benched for geno smith
the way the world acted was insane it was absolutely now is geno smith the answer
i don't think so but people were just the the pr around eli manning still is so strong
he's top 10 in completion percentage right now
because they literally don't throw anything over like 10 yards
because they can't.
A lot of dink and dump success, though, in the NFL if you really need it.
But it is tough to watch Eli.
It's tough to watch.
Whenever he retires and leaves, Eli was a great quarterback.
You'll forget about these shitty years,
but it's almost at the point now where you're like, come on.
I want to see what Saquon can do with a –
When there's not 12 people in the box?
Yes, with an engine, you know, with an absolute engine in there,
possibly cooking up some real success for them.
I am a big Saquon Barkley fan.
Dude, that game on Thursday night against the Eagles,
he literally tried putting the entire team on his back.
You know who doesn't get enough credit?
And this is probably every person that's doing take's take right now.
Kareem Hunt is unbelievable.
I forget about how good he is because of all the other weapons.
He's a beast.
He is barbecue chicken, bro.
Barbecue chicken, bro.
He is so good.
That New England coming out party he had last year
where he had a fumble on his first touch,
and then they put him back in.
I was like, oh, this guy must be the truth.
If as a rookie, his first touch
he's fumbling and then they're feeding him again
and he was and it's kind of like he's been
lost in the shuffle because they have
so many weapons. Mahomes has learned he can run
too, by the way, which is not good.
Chris Collinsworth was like, whenever he ran
for a first down one time and then slid, perfect
baseball slide, by the way. He had a perfect slide.
He played baseball? Oh my God. And basketball and basketball by the way get this nfl player plays other sports
crazy fucking crazy but chris collinsworth was like i just heard 70 000 people here at arrow
arrowhead scream get down or something i was like no you didn't just pick up 12 yards with nobody
around him like this is what makes this is what what will take Patrick Mahomes to the next level.
That offense, though, is beautiful.
I'm scared Andy Reid is wasting all of his plays.
I don't know because Andy's got that – it looks like they're doing a lot,
but they're doing that very simple college offense
where they literally have four options every play,
and that's what Patrick Mahomes did at Texas Tech,
and he's just so good at it because that's what he did already.
It's almost unstoppable because he reads the run,
and then if the linebackers go, he'll pull it and look for the slant behind.
And if not, they'll always have that fucking flare to like Tyree Kill over here.
Now listen, as a guy who was once a scout team quarterback
in a college that ran very much RPO offense, you read the end.
You read the end to see what the end does crashes down but whenever you have five people running four twos on the same team you can't
just read the defense can't just read everything it's it's it's unfair the only way that offense
gets stopped unless they're playing the patriots and somehow the Patriots do what the Patriots does somehow whatever the Patriots do they do it and it seems unstoppable it really seems unstoppable
the only way you beat it is penetration so that's why the LA Rams game on Monday night in Mexico
City I watched this with WVU with Pat White any team that could get penetration on our line
was we're fucked because it just completely disrupts everything aaron donald
and indomitian sue potentially getting penetration on that line early is the only way to stop this
type of offense and this is just no granted there's probably other ways but me just watching
four years of success and pat white probably one of the best to do it in college in the history of
college doing it it was whenever we would get beat is when they got penetration on our line and that's why the la rams are potential kind of stumpers for uh the
kansas city chiefs aaron donald's getting hot too he had uh four sacks on sunday and then he just
ripped us the fumble out of like it wasn't even i don't even know what happened he's aaron donald's
unbelievable he started he's swagged too i guess aq says he talks shit aq says once aaron donald
starts getting comfortable
and he knows you have no chance, he said he'll talk shit.
I was like, I love...
He's from Penn Hills.
AQ knows that strictly because AQ is the center.
Him and AQ, I guess AQ says he and Aaron Donald get along.
But he's watched plenty of his guards let Aaron Donald get confident
and then just has to listen to it before the snap.
AQ's lined up, bent over for the snap,
and he's Aaron Donald telling his guard, like,
oh, you about to get this, because AQ's like, oh, should we shift?
We should probably shift.
Sorry about your luck, Bob.
See you later.
The Chiefs are going to be very, very – I realized this last night.
The Chiefs are going to be very, very hard to beat at home, too,
because their liability is their defense.
But with 70,000 people in the loudest stadium in the NFL,
Dee Ford and Justin Houston are just going to own tackles getting off the ball.
Loud.
That Sweet Caroline thing,
Al Michaels and Chris Collins were spoke right over top of it.
I'm like, if I'm learning anything from watching the WWE people,
when the crowd gets going, you hear Michael Cole yelling at the commentators,
like, shut the fuck up.
Like, literally, let's let the crowd eat here because the crowd is a part of it.
With the NFL, you don't normally get that.
You don't normally – college, there's an atmosphere, right?
You can get chants and sings.
In the NFL, you don't normally get the –
Lucasville Stadium, I forgot how quiet that place was.
That place is so quiet.
It is.
So, so quiet. That's what we said too. We were walking
around the outside before we came in, and I
couldn't believe the atmosphere outside was
so tame and mild and just like
it was like a nice Sunday morning.
Who's your hospitality? Yeah, I'm used
to walking into a stadium like drums banging,
people screaming, like music
blasting. Threatening murder.
Yeah, yeah. People are
nicer. Greatest city on earth.
Our fans start to cheer loud when we're on defense,
and they're like, oh, shit.
Quarterback's probably having a hard time hearing you.
Sorry.
We don't want you to leave here with any bad feelings.
We got you working, sir.
But they were singing Sweet Caroline.
The entire place was singing Sweet Caroline,
and they just spoke right over top of it
I'm like what are you
this doesn't happen in the NFL often
this is very much a college thing
and you guys are just talking right over
let that thing eat a little bit
the game was already over anyways
it was unbelievable
Green Bay and Arrowhead
very college like atmospheres in the NFL
Seattle didn't get any respect
in that conversation last night
and I've never played at Seattle
never in my life have I played at Seattle
I've played at Houston whenever the game was really on.
Houston was the loudest stadium I've ever played in.
Played in Arrowhead.
That was when they had Brady Quinn playing quarterback, though.
The fans were just waiting to boo Brady Quinn.
That's all they were doing.
They were there for one reason, one reason only.
It was the last game of the season.
Bruce Arians was our coach.
It was negative something.
I busted my ass in warm-ups because the field was actually an ice skating rink.
So I went out to punt.
And the first punt I tried in warm-ups, I just fell flat on my ass.
It was a bad situation.
Bruce Arians, his halftime speech was, it's cold as fuck.
Let's get a win and get the fuck out of here.
It was literally his halftime speech.
We got a win.
But I was so excited to be there because it's
like the allure of arrowhead is awesome which it is by the way cool shape too it's awesome dude it
is absolutely awesome but those fans were just waiting for brady quinn to fuck up they were just
waiting and waiting and then he threw a pick six in like the second quarter of first quarter
in the place he erupted in like like sarc Like, yeah! That was back when their defense was incredible.
They had like 10 pro bowlers on defense,
and on offense, they couldn't do a single thing.
They couldn't do a single thing on offense.
Now they bring in Andy Reid,
it's almost like it's completely opposite.
And I enjoy that Arrowhead placement.
Man, that Sweet Caroline was a great moment
that they just talked right over.
I like Al Michaels.
I think he's very talented.
I like Chris Collinsworth, too. He's a bit negative I think he's very talented. I like Chris Collinsworth, too.
He's a bit negative.
He's a bit negative.
I like Chris Collinsworth, but boy, they blew that moment, I thought.
Andy Reid took the under last night.
You see that?
Yeah, see, a lot of people were talking about how he didn't kick that field goal there or whatever.
That's like a respect thing, though.
That's like a karma thing.
Whenever you do that, I think the coaches feel as if it's karma.
If I bury this team whenever it's already over,
that's going to come back and get me at some point.
So I think that's what it is.
Cream Hunt was about a yard away, though, from picking it up.
Or where?
I think it was where or Cream Hunt?
Yeah, I think it was where.
Yeah, they were a yard away from picking that up.
It's like you pick up the first down.
It's okay seeing them getting buried.
Really?
Not the Ravens. The Bengals have been exposed for who they are. They're dog shit now. I don okay seeing them getting buried. Really? The Ravens, or not the Ravens,
the Bengals have been exposed for who they are.
They're dog shit now.
I don't have to worry about those.
The fucking Browns, they got that mess going on
and the Ravens got lost to the New Orleans.
It was a great day for the old first place,
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All right.
Well, let's just set the scene.
The Ravens have just scored a touchdown.
They are down one point.
I believe there's like 10 seconds left in the game.
All they have to do is hit the extra
point and it goes to overtime. They have Justin
Tucker. Automatic. Mr.
Automatic. The most accurate
field goal kicker of all time
in the NFL, Justin Tucker.
He has hit 222 regular
season extra points in a row,
316 straight extra points if you count playoffs and college,
112 out of 112 since the field goal
or the extra point has been moved back.
Nobody else in the league has been that.
No one else in the league has been even close to that.
Nobody in the league has been as tried and true and pure
as Justin Tucker since Justin Tucker got into the NFL.
Especially not some CFL.
All he's going to do is hit the extra point.
The Ravens and the Saints go to overtime to battle it out.
But no, not so fast, my friends.
Why not, though?
Why not?
Well, because it's Drew Brees and the NFL is rigged for Drew Brees.
I think you all have realized that I've brought up all these brilliant points about this.
Drew Brees, in the game that he throws his 500th touchdown,
you think the Ravens are going to beat him in that game?
I don't think so.
You think the Ravens are going to beat Drew Brees
when the Ravens are the only team that Drew Brees has never beaten?
I don't think so.
Not Drew Brees and his dumb baby.
Not Drew Brees and his dumb baby.
Also, if you watch the video
the extra point
Justin Tucker
is very shocked
it didn't go in
because it started off
right down the middle
and then
just
somehow
tailed 30 feet
to the right
yeah
it's God
God likes Drew Brees
oh
oh you think
God is ready
I agree that Drew Brees
is getting some help
Austin Colley's God
which God I'm gonna say Zeus yeah I agree that Drew Brees is getting some help. Austin Colley's God? Which God?
I'm going to say Zeus.
Yeah.
Maybe Zeus.
I'd just say it was fucking, I don't know.
Because it's a weather thing.
Could it be the Holden?
Well, the NFL, it might not be the NFL because the NFL, if it was smart enough,
which sometimes they're not, could have easily just had Flacco throw an interception on the last drive
and people are like, oh, that's just Joe Flacco.
Or some weird flag. Instead, they're going to have this. LOL Flacco throw an interception on the last drive and people are like, oh, that's just Joe Flacco. Or some weird flag.
Instead, they're going to have this.
LOL Flacco.
Yeah.
Instead, they're going to have Justin Tucker miss an extra point.
It's like, hey, you're giving it away now.
Yeah, yeah.
You're getting cocky.
Yeah, you're getting a little cocky.
You think we're just going to let anything fly by your little Drew Brees thing?
No, no.
Justin Tucker?
You think Justin Tucker, the guy who hits the ball the most pure out of any?
These fucking announcers, by the way.
These announcers talking about it.
I want to just crawl through the TV and slap them.
I just want to slap them with how stupid they are.
I can't fathom how stupid these people are that commentate on games.
They're like, well, Justin Tucker's known for dancing with the uprights.
It's like, no.
That is not what Justin Tucker's known for. Down the middle every single fucking time. Every single fucking time. Right behind the uprights. It's like, no, Justin, that is not what Justin Tucker's known for.
Down the middle every single fucking time.
Every single fucking time,
right behind the uprights.
There's normally a stairwell
that goes right up the,
there's like a staircase
that goes up in a stadium.
Normally, if you watch,
Justin Tucker's ball falls
right down the middle of that
every single time.
And this ball started that way.
It started that way.
And then she just kicked out to the right.
I ain't never seen.
Now, normally when you hit a ball fat.
Okay, let's take you to the driving range.
Whenever you hit a slice, you go outside in.
You get a little side spin.
The ball comes.
In football, if you hit it fat with a soccer-style kick, you're coming boom.
You're hitting it fat.
You're kind of going inside out or outside in just like a
slicing golf. But normally for that
to happen, it has to go way left
and then it comes back. That one
seemed to go straight and then
just tail off. It didn't make
much sense to me how that ball happened. Also, his
face after, which is now the greatest gift I'm going to use
probably every single day of my life. He looks like he's
I put it into my spank bank for a long time.
You got a mass spank to Justin Tucker's face.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't care.
Respect.
Because not only did we predict this
because of the Saints or Drew Brees,
the Ravens being the only team that he needs to beat.
Yep.
But also, the Steelers are in first in the AFC.
Yeah, yeah.
So both of them are good for you.
But it did seem...
And they were also lined up right of center too, by the way.
So the Ravens were lined up right of center,
and the wind seemed to be blowing left to right.
So I didn't fully understand the move.
Whenever we had a little wind in the stadium, if it was hard left to right,
we would line up left to center so that Vinny could kick it straight
and they would have a little bit more room to drift.
There's a lot of thoughts going on.
You can lean a ball differently if the wind's blowing left to right. You can stand it up a little bit more so that it will fight the wind a little bit more
you can pull it towards you for a right footed kicker if the wind's going right to left so it'll
battle through the wind a little bit there's a lot of things you can do but that ball looked pure to
me and then it just turned at the last second and that's a nightmare situation for justin tucker
because you literally have no idea why you You have no idea why that happened.
So he's probably never going to make a kick again, right?
As I said.
I hope it doesn't happen.
This is the type of thing, though.
That'd be a shame.
Justin Tucker has proved that he has great mental wherewithal or whatever.
Is that the right word?
That works.
Mental toughness.
Look at me.
He has good mental toughness.
Oh.
There it is.
He seems to have that, and he has a good swagger,
and he stepped up to the press conference, by the way, afterwards
and took it right on the chin, which is awesome.
But that is the type of kick, though, that could make you overthink your next one,
and then it's fuck, fuck, fuck.
But he's Justin Tucker.
That was wild to me.
I have breaking news for a team that also missed a kick to go to overtime.
Okay.
Dallas Cowboys?
Yep.
Traded for Amari Cooper.
Amari Cooper's going to be a Dallas Cowboy.
Oh, ACDC no more, huh?
Wasn't that a thing there for a while?
Yep.
So John Gruden's dumping the team right now?
Is that what's happening?
I mean, I called this last week on Quick Hits.
When Gruden was on, I said,
hey, you're getting rid of all of your best players
so you could get draft picks for these upcoming years.
So when you leave Oakland, Oakland isn't going to be that sad
because you guys are going to be fucking terrible.
But then going into Vegas, you're going to have all these draft picks.
New city, new toy.
Cap space.
Yep, everything's going to go in, and then you're going to win,
and you're going to be a hero.
That's surprising, but it's not that surprising, right?
Because Gruden has no allegiance to him.
It's not one of his guys.
You've said this before.
When Grease and Kevin, new GMs come in, they want their guys.
Yep, their guys.
Now, granted, Amari Cooper, hell of a football player.
Well, and I did read that he has the same agent as Khalil Mack,
and Gruden is trying to get rid of all those guys.
I think Carl Joseph's on there, too,
and they're trying to get rid of him as well.
Yeah, so you think he's just trying to clean out.
I can't wait to see how much Amari Cooper signs for in Dallas
if he's Khalil Mack's agent.
He's about to get 90 million, man.
He was so good his first two years,
and then he's fallen off.
I can't tell if he's good or not anymore.
I assume he is.
Amari Cooper?
Yeah.
Everything revolves, when you're a wide receiver, around.
The guy throwing you the football.
Let's remember back whenever Amari Cooper was really good.
Guess who else was really good?
Derek Carr was un-fucking-believable.
So ACDC became a thing that everybody talked about.
There was hope in the Bay Area, everything,
and now it's all gone to shit.
That penalty against...
Oh, the snapping penalty.
He snapped me in the Pro Bowl, that guy.
Great snapper.
Unbelievable real estate guy down there, too.
He's got a bunch of commercial real estate in Dallas.
That snapper is loaded.
He is fucking loaded. Next level commercial real estate selling malls, I think loaded.
He just does long snapping as a thing. He's been there for like 12 years, 11 years.
He's an incredible long snapper, really good guy. That call on him is fucking outrageous.
So the calls on the long snappers for moving the ball, it's like holding on an offensive line.
outrageous so the calls on the long snappers for moving the ball it's like holding on an offensive lineman you can call it anytime you want anytime you want to call it you can call it but it's just
whether or not the ref wants to be an asshole that's kind of the way it is just like walt in
england called me for uh whenever i got somebody to jump off sides instead of calling it on the
d lineman he called it on me just because he's a fucking prick that's kind of the way the refs are
it's like they they pick and choose they want to blame it on the defense or they want to blame it
on the long snapper it's positionism that's exactly what it is it's positionism he attacked
that long snapper and they called on him instead of the d lineman that jumped outside like a
fucking idiot in a huge moment it was it's i can't believe they called that you got video where they
showed the one earlier and then the one immediately after it,
and there's no discernible difference whatsoever
between the three that show.
They could call it any time, literally any time.
And the ref has that conversation with the long snapper
almost before every single game.
So this long snapper's been having this conversation
with these refs for 12 years now.
Hey, this is what I do before the snap.
This is my mechanics, because every snapper's different.
Overton liked to elongate his arm
so he was further out so to do that you have to move the ball and then you have to extend it out
and it's like hey this is my move basically you're telling the ref this is my move this is what i do
every time the ref goes okay good just don't change it from that so that guy did the same
exact thing he always does and rodney harrison on the fucking football night in america was like
that was a good call shut the fuck up hey rodney you have no fucking idea what you're talking about
rodney harrison when i come i think rodney harrison's a really good football mind really
good football mind but when it came to this it's like why are you even talking why are you even
talking and then tony dungy fuck i wish i would have wrote it down he said something that just
completely contradicted everything he's ever done.
Everything he's ever done, I'll think of it.
Those two were really on one this week
where I wanted to climb through my TV and slap them both.
Do you think in that instance that it was because of the moment
that it was magnified?
Like you say that's something that could be called every play.
And a lot of those plays are extra points or the field goals.
They're probably very routine, I feel like.
But do you think with the score in that situation,
the refs were looking closely and they were more dialed in,
and maybe it jumped out to them more than it did in any other instance?
So this is just what it's like whenever you give the refs that leeway
to make judgment calls.
Because in huge moments, refs are humans too.
The refs are humans too.
So when the shot's to the head, they're like, oh, it's a judgment call.
You're giving them a lot of leeway to be like, oh, in my head,
it's just like forward progress was stopped.
That's their kind of trump card for everything.
They're like, oh, I called forward progress being stopped
if a fumble happens late.
They end all conversation.
That's the same thing they can do with, oh, it was my judgment that that happened.
That's like the trump card end all be all thing.
I don't know.
I just don't enjoy the thought of judgment playing with humans.
I just don't enjoy it. To that point with humans i just don't enjoy that point i was listening to rex ryan this morning and to your point he said it was probably something that the redskins coaches brought up with the referees
before the game to watch and then once again right before that snap so then maybe if they saw it even
though the snapper went over with the rest before the game it was something that they they thought
they had to call if they jumped off sides that guy's been snapping the same way went over it with the rest before the game. It was something that they thought they had to call if they jumped off sides.
That guy's been snapping the same way for over a decade, though.
That is the wild thing to me.
It's like every snapper has their routine.
It's like a golf.
Sergio Garcia, what, he does like 45 fucking pumps.
It's the same thing whenever it comes to snappers.
They all have their same fucking routine.
By the way, the biggest mental, I don't want to say little people,
but what's that word instead of little person?
Smaller person.
No, the other word.
What's the word that starts with an M?
Zito.
I don't know.
Slipping your mind?
I just forgot it, yeah.
Pass the test.
Mental little people are the long snappers
because their job is so minute, so minute.
That's the word.
That was not it. but it was close because they are their job is
their upside down quarterback that has to make a 14 yard pass or an eight yard pass and it has to
be perfect every single time so it just becomes like a golfer with their routine and they just
get locked in these routines and locked in it over a decade that guy's been snapping like that and on a game winner you're gonna back it up to a 52 yarder it's just like you're so you you're so dumb you
really are so dumb i can't let's not let this play overshadow how big of a fucking
bitch jason garrett is all the time you hate him so much he's the absolute worst he's getting he's
getting crushed today for good reason. Thank God.
Why?
Well, because they had like 12 seconds left and one timeout.
And instead of like every other team in the league would probably either,
I don't know, maybe throw a five-yard out,
try to get 10 yards over the middle, get down real quick and call a timeout.
He fucking ran a play with Zeke just to center the ball for the 47-yard line.
So let me tell you why this is.
This is a cover-your-ass situation.
This happened at the Colts a few times with Vinatieri.
We give them a line.
Say, hey, our line today is the 38-yard line.
So a 56-yarder is where we're at.
The offensive coordinator hears that.
They think, okay, we need to just get to the 37 then.
So they've done their job.
Basically, it's like, yo, we've done our job we have done everything we you told us to get to 38 you'll
take it from there and all we would ever say is like yeah but a 37 yarder is a lot easier if we
would do that but all the coaches think about is covering their own ass we were told that the line
was to get it to here we got it to there he didn't do his job that is
100 what that is for so i can see how you think garrett took a coward way out because he did he
did he did that is a instead of picking up more yards he was just basically like the kicker told
us where he wanted to get to and we got there it's his job for not making it which is true by the way
the kid had enough leg for that oh yeah that ball hit that post that dong
shot was pretty hard that thing's good from 60 plus good for that kid but man it's just it is a
situation though that i see often it's not every other coach does that by the way there's a lot of
not every other coach goes tries to get more yard for the kickers a lot of coaches also just cover
their own ass like hey we were told to get to the 38 we got to the 38 that's what we did well this
is just on top of him not going for a fourth and one
in overtime on the Potens 40 two weeks ago against Houston.
Speaking of a guy going for it and rolling the dice
and it backfired this time, Vrabel.
Everybody's talking about him going for two here in London,
which I love, by the way.
I'm a big fan of this move.
I am a big fan of this move.
Overtime in London.
We're already miserable.
Let's get back to fucking America.
Let's give these people game two.
They were being outplayed too.
So it's like, let's end this.
Let's not take it to fucking London.
Roll the dice here.
One play.
We can steal this game.
We can steal this game right now and make it happen.
I enjoy it.
A couple weeks ago, they had a 50-yarder in overtime for Ryan Suckup,
who's one of the most consistent.
It was fourth and four, fourth and one or something like that in overtime.
Vrabel goes for it.
They make it.
They score a touchdown.
They win.
Vrabel's a hero.
He's a legend because he trusted his team, blah, blah, blah.
Now he goes for it for two.
He doesn't get it.
And there's some people that bash him for it.
This is what a young coach will learn.
It's like, oh, two weeks ago, he was a legend for this.
This week, he's not in your eyes.
I love it. I love the way Vrabel coaches, by the way. He's got boxing gloves on. He's like, yo, two weeks ago he was a legend for this. This week he's not in your eyes. I love it.
I love the way Vrabel coaches, by the way.
He's got boxing gloves on. He's fucking in there.
He wants to win. I like the way Vrabel coaches are. I like him a lot. If that's who you are
and you're going to do it every time, go for it.
Yesterday, Sean Payton went for it five times on
fourth down. If that's what you're going to do
and that's always what you're going to do, be true to who you are.
I don't know
if I want my coach to always do it,
but if you're feeling like our defense is really crushing today,
I have a lot of confidence going into overtime.
Or you have no confidence in your defense.
Now you have no confidence.
It's one way or the other.
It's one way or the other, you know?
It's just a very – because Frank Reich went for it, right?
He went for it.
They throw the ball low, skip the ball low.
Houston Texans get a win.
Overtime, bing, bing, boom.
Everything is a hindsight legend or idiot decision in the NFL.
Every trick play, every decision is a hindsight judgment decision.
If it works, you're a genius.
If it doesn't, you're the fucking worst.
You shouldn't be in the NFL.
Well, nobody went for it more on fourth last year than Doug Peterson.
Like, it's, I guess, it like do you have the balls because the –
they always say the analytics, blah, blah, blah.
Actually, you should actually go for it on fourth more often than they do.
It's just coaches are fearful for their job.
Well, field position.
Yeah.
Field position is a big determiner of who wins the game.
It is.
And as soon as you see all these stats right it can kind of scare you it's like
gruden said they have all these stats they don't know what to do with them basically it is true
because you have these stats like if we win the field position we're going to win 82 percent of
their time if we in field position if we do this we're going to win blah blah blah so now you have
these stats in your head and you're like well they say if we win the field position a majority of the
time we're going to win so why would we risk giving
it up at 39 right now which completely fucks it up and go for it it's like almost ignorance is
bliss knowing too much can also screw you it seems like that is the case i love frabel though
i like i guarantee the players love him yeah he looks like that kind of guy i love frabel man
i don't know if i'd want to play for him to be honest seems like a bit of a hard ass probably yelling at people a lot i'd
assume but he seems like he's going to be a coach that wins you know what i mean marcus mariotta
mariotta isn't a i mean let's look he's not a world beater he's average he's he's not a guy
there we go there is a guy that i don't think his second contract, he should make more than fucking $6 million, $5 million.
Now, that's no offense to Marcus.
I just think that there's a chance they can roll the dice
and pick up maybe a Patrick Mahomes coming up.
You know what I mean?
And I think they should build the team instead of the quarterback.
Marcus is a great quarterback and can get the job done,
but I like what Vrabel's doing down there in Nashville.
They need it, by the way.
That team needs it.
They don't deserve it.
They're always so close to being almost good.
Every year we play them.
Every year we played them.
It was like, this is the year the Titans are going to be good.
This is the year the Titans are going to be good.
And then we get down there and our team's shit and we win.
It's like, oh, I don't know what's going on.
It is.
It's a very weird division.
Houston, Deshaun Watson rides on a bus all the way to the game,
picks up a win.
They've won four in a row, haven't they?
Yeah, they've started 0-3.
J.J. Watt, with one of the most relatable things
I've ever heard him say,
said he wished he could hop into Deshaun Watson's bus,
get some cold beer, and ride back with him.
I love that.
That was the most relatable J.J. Watt thing I've ever heard.
How about him playing in an NFL game
after having his lungs clapped and bruised now
that it's too bad of an injury to fly,
but he can play in an NFL game?
Yeah, it's crazy to me.
They're like, you know what?
He can't fly.
That would be scary.
But we can definitely put him out there with potential 400 pounds.
400 pounds of humans crashing down on him.
Yeah, we'll put him on a bus.
That'll be good.
Are you going to have that bus around him on the field, dude?
What are we going to do with that?
There's one thing in life you don't mess with is cabin pressure.
You never mess with the cabin pressure.
You know, it's interesting because they have all those ways to beat.
I thought that Adrid was coming.
He was shuffling papers everywhere I said that.
The plane, though, is something that people do have to battle against
when it comes to medical.
It's very interesting to watch guys who are hurt
before getting on a plane on an away game.
I've never been a part of the conversation,
but there's always a very long conversation with the trainer like hey you have to put these pants on you have
to wear these tights as soon as we get off we have to do this we have to do that because the
the altitude i guess is what kind of fucks with your i guess there's a lot of swelling that happens
like if you have high blood pressure you're not supposed to be on a plane really yeah it'll mess
you up is it because the are you this is a z fact? This might be a little bit of a Zito fact, but I'm pretty sure I've heard it before.
I'm not going to argue it.
It sounds right.
It's an altitude, blood pressure.
It's like that with roller coasters, too.
You're not supposed to get on a roller coaster
if you have high blood pressure, right?
Or pregnant.
Those are all the Gs.
Is that because you could potentially get scared and die?
I think it's just precautionary.
Why even take a chance?
I don't like the planes, but they're of a necessity yeah in this world we live in how about the sean watson just in his own bus by the way that had to be a great time you rode with
that would be cool and we had a great time that's like everybody love everybody 14 more hours
it's not a short drive it was 10 said. Yeah, but those buses are comfortable.
It's not like he was on a bus like we ride on.
You don't think he was in a conversion van?
No.
I think he was in a luxury.
Imagine if he was driving like he drove.
I got a pips break.
JJ, you need anything?
Stopping a gas station.
I bet you he stopped at a gas station.
For sure, yeah.
I bet you he stopped at a gas station.
Give me some beef jerky, please.
Like in the middle of Louisiana, just stopping at the gas station. For sure, yeah. I bet you they stopped at the gas station. Get me some beef jerky, please. Like in the middle of Louisiana, just stopping at a gas station.
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NFL game.
Yeah, I'm the quarterback.
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What's up, Diggs?
It just came out what the Cowboys gave up.
Yeah?
A first.
Oh, shit.
For Amari Cooper?
I know.
Big fucking deal.
What's their record?
Are they going for it this year?
They're going for now.
So they're not going for it this year.
So here's Gruden collecting first rounders to build up the next time.
What's that? The Raiders have three first rounders next year.
The Raiders have three first round picks next year?
Fucking Gruden. That's pretty significant. You know what you caniders have three first-rounders next year. The Raiders have three first-round picks next year? Fucking grew and fucking just...
That's pretty significant.
You know what you can do with three first-round picks?
You can trade two of them, get up to the first pick,
and then also have another one.
Yes.
Oh, so the Raiders got the first pick in the NFL draft next year.
That's exciting.
That's exciting to hear.
Who's better, Amari Cooper or Josh Gordon?
Josh Gordon's unbelievable.
Josh, they got a Patriots, but got him for, what, a fifth?
That's what the Patriots do.
But he has that unreliability factor.
Well, yeah, and he, I mean, Josh Gordon has played,
or Josh Gordon hasn't played many games.
Amari Cooper has.
Josh Gordon, though, they figured out how to fucking use him.
With a state of the Patriots here, we have a mass hole.
Connor, come in here, bub.
This guy's the worst.
He dresses like a child. He just got back from alumni weekend here come over here connor come over here bud
i can't wait to hear this motherfucker your classic patriots are better than everybody man
a guy who comments on tom brady's post and tells him let's go, we're going to have a great week.
He's basically Tom Brady's motivational coach.
Someone has to do it.
If I don't know who will.
I think he has enough motivation.
Have you seen what he does
through all those Instagram posts?
Have you read them?
Who, him?
Yeah.
Foxy reads them to me.
They're not bad.
The insulated flannel with sweatpants is...
So he dresses like a 12-year-old.
You had homecoming weekend this past weekend?
Alumni weekend, yes.
Fairfield University, fantastic.
How was it?
Did you lose your voice?
It was great.
Oh, yeah.
I lost a lot more than just my voice.
I'm sure the listeners are pretty happy.
Yeah, I lost my voice, lost my dignity.
Lost a lot of things.
I lost two pairs of sunglasses, actually.
You need to get some movement glasses.
We got you.
Yeah, I need to get some movement glasses.
That's what I'm going to do.
Was it nice to get around all the fellow mass got you. Yeah, I need to get some movement glasses. That's what I'm going to do. Was it nice to get around
all the fellow mass holes? Yeah, it was nice
to be back. I got off the
plane. I forgot I was in New
York City and I was wearing a Red Sox
jersey. So I walk outside, get a
fuck you. I felt like I was at home
again, which was awesome.
It was nice to get back to the coast, huh?
It was nice to get back to the coast. It's great
to be back in a clean city,
but walking around and looking down
and seeing cigarette butts everywhere
was fun for a little.
Yeah, I can imagine.
It's like getting out their blues clothes a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, sort of.
So Patriots, big day Sunday.
Big day, big win.
Chicago Bears, the line confused me.
It was a trap line.
It was a trap game.
It was two and a half or something like that.
It was at three,
and then it went to two and a half right before the game. And a trap game. It was 2.5 or something like that. It was at 3, and then it went to 2.5 right before the game.
And nobody really understood why this was happening.
I took the Patriots' money line, and it was only minus 125 or something like that.
The Sharps, the people that are supposed to know, were all over the Bears.
It doesn't make any sense to me why.
And then the game starts happening while we're at the Colts game.
We have the Patriots-Bears game in the suite.
Zito's glued to the TV over there,
and he's like, they were right. That's what Zito kept saying.
17-7 early, and I was like, oh,
they were right. They were right. That's all Zito kept saying
is they were right, and I was like, there's no way the
Patriots are going to lose to the fucking Bears.
And then, thank God I was correct,
how do the Patriots fans feel
after all the Vegas betting
against them? Everybody seemed to be against
the Patriots, but it seems the Patriots always do what the Patriots does,
and that happened in Chicago.
Well, I would never do it to Zito,
so I haven't really given him shit at all.
I mean, the first thing I said to him was,
wow, we really did steal one today.
Because I got home last night around 10,
so we didn't get any real time to talk about it.
First thing I said, we really stole one.
Listen to the humble pie over here.
No, this is...
Mitch played like dog shit. We, Patriot Nation. No, this is... Mitch played like dog shit.
We, Patriot Nation, what do you mean?
Mitch played like dog shit.
Mitch didn't play like dog shit.
Why?
Because he had one rushing touchdown?
No, because he had over 300 yards and two touchdowns.
Yeah, but he does have...
Three, including the...
Yeah, but if you watch...
Suck it, Diggs.
No, I agree with you.
Did you watch the game?
Yeah, he was 26 for 50.
He threw the ball...
Yeah, not good.
I know, I agree with you,
but I also don't think Mitch Trubisky is that good either.
I mean, I'd say you're saying he didn't play like Dosh
and he played like he normally does.
He was who he thought he was.
His decision-making is good, though.
That's one thing.
He has a bad arm.
I need to pull him and put Jacoby Brissett in.
I don't know.
One yard short.
Two special teams touchdowns.
The odds of winning a football game with two special teams touchdowns
has to be 100%.
I think it's like 98%.
If you have one, it's like 92% or something like that.
So, again, that was a steal.
We were talking about it all week because of that spread
after we beat the quote-unquote best team in the NFL, the Chiefs.
I guess the Rams, but I don't think they're making it.
Three was just not enough.
Why do you think the Rams
are better than... Is there anybody that scares the
Patriot Nation? We, you, the Patriot
Nation. By the way, way to use we instead of I
like Hugh Jackson. No, no, no. This is in
Cleveland. I don't know, though.
Honestly,
I don't think the Rams are going to the NFC Championship.
I think the Vikings beat the Rams in the playoffs
because they lost during the regular season.
Thielen, by the way, seven straight 100-yard games.
He's incredible.
Kirk Cousins is so happy that Thielen is there.
So happy.
Because you've got Kyle Rudolph, too, opening things up for him.
And Stephon Diggs on the other side taking the top off.
That team's very good.
And if Zimmer can get that defense to keep crushing.
Zimmer was on game day prime with Deion Sanders.
Zimmer once coached Deion Sanders. So watching those
two interact was pretty cool. Watching Zimmer
be a human. Because I feel like Zimmer kind of has
that Belichick kind of like grizzly.
He was like very cool, very
nice. You could see why the team likes him.
I like the Vikings too.
If Dalvin Cook, if they ever
just let him sit and get healthy
and then he comes back too. I mean, that's
a pretty good two-headed monster in the backfield.
Stephon Diggs and Thielen are probably the best duo receiver
after A.B. and Juju.
So, I mean, the Vikings have a serious team.
How do you guys feel about Josh Gordon?
I mean, he's a stud.
Did you see that fourth and one?
That was an unbelievable catch.
Incredible catch.
Incredible.
So his locker is right next to Brady's locker.
Right next to Brady's, yeah.
And he got there, and they gave him the,
hey, this ain't Cleveland anymore.
You're not in Kansas anymore speech.
Hey, we play football here.
We don't do all the other bullshit.
And he's just going to become the best wide receiver in the league at some point?
Or you think he's just going to be a very good role player for the Patriots?
I hope we sign him.
If we do, I think next year the possibility of Josh Gordon having
25 touchdowns is not that absurd.
You think Tom Brady plays again next year?
If we win it, then
we'll go back-to-back next year, and then he'll call
it. Oh, you think he wants one more back-to-back?
Yeah. If you're going to get six,
might as well go for seven. Are you worried about Gronk's
12th back injury? Back injuries are tough, man.
No, I'm not that worried about Gronk, because
it's the same way we don't pin our offense around one player.
Even if Gronk goes down, it's not the end of the world.
Same way we deal with our running backs, right?
Sonny Michel goes down.
Oh, shit.
What are we going to do?
Well, James White's still there.
Patriots win without Gronk.
It's a weird thing.
It's very weird because you can't say that the Patriots are better without Gronk. It's a weird thing. It's very weird because you can't say
that the Patriots
are better without Gronk,
but I think their winning percentage
is better without Gronk in.
Well, he has been injured
so many times,
like you said,
so we've won so many games
without him,
and then we just added
Josh Gordon, so I mean.
So you think you guys
have kind of figured out
how, okay,
if we lose
the most
anabolic player, there's no way that's right. Perfect. Physically dominant?abolic player there's no way that's right perfect physically
dominant perfect there's no way that's right look it up anabolic it's one of the greatest words
he's an anomaly though yes okay that's i thought you were going for animal
combining steroids and animal together no saying. I'm saying animal. That's not a bad call.
And normally.
He is.
He's not supposed to be that big, that fast.
That good, that smart, that high of football IQ.
Especially when he just looks like he's in pain all the time going up to the line.
And then he just fucking runs around and beats a guy.
He's got that illegal bionic arm on.
He is in pain, though, I think.
That's why he misses so many games.
Are you worried Josh Gordon can't judge a fly ball based on that Hail Mary?
That was a very tough look.
And that's usually Gronk.
They don't put him in anymore because, you know, he is glass.
But, I mean, Gordon will get the hang of it.
He takes a lot of big shots because he's a big target.
I will not sit here and let Patriots Nation not respect what Gronk is,
which is a human battering ram.
You fuckboys don't even understand what you have.
You love Brady and Belichick so goddamn much
that you don't even respect the Gronk.
Whipio, Western Pennsylvania,
Interscholastic Athletic League,
Woody High, Rob Gronkowski.
We just put out products.
That's all we do.
We love Gronk more than anything after he said he would rather retire
than go play for the Detroit Lions.
Yeah, that was like, okay, Rob is back in a big way.
I don't know.
Lions are pretty good.
Oh, yeah.
You guys think you win another Super Bowl, huh?
At least one in the next three years.
Not this year, though.
I think this year, yeah.
So one in the next one year, then? Well, I said at least one in the next three years. Not this year, though. I think this year, yeah. So one in the next one year, then?
Well, I said at least one.
So I'm saying I think we win it this year,
and then one in the next two years, and then Brady's done.
After this season.
Two in the next three years.
At least one.
We could also win all three.
We could just win three in a row.
That's also a possibility.
And, hey, Red Sox are in the World Series.
This clean sweep of Boston, it's not looking
too bad. I did say this.
Starting with the Red Sox, we really could go.
Do people watch the World Series?
Yeah, I think so. A few.
America's pastime here and there.
Were you a baseball fan until the Red Sox
got good? No.
My dad's also a
Massachusetts man.
My whole life, we've been Sox, Pats, Bruins, Celtics.
I was at the 04 ring ceremony after they broke the curse,
and we got our championship rings in front of the Yankees.
That's probably the coolest sport I've ever been to.
What's your order of sports?
Like what sport teams do you like?
Pats are one, and then I'd put Celtics and Socks at 1A,
and then Bruins are two
So Bruins are number four
Bruins are number two
Yeah, hockey's number four
That makes sense
That makes sense
I mean, it's not because the
How do you feel about Rondo
Just fucking left Tolkien Chris Ball
After spinning on him
Well, the thing for me is that
Now Rondo's
He's under the LeBron tree
So the respect for me As far now rondo's uh he's under the lebron tree so the
respect for me as far as rondo goes is a little under how dude have you seen a new lebron commercial
awesome uh when he was giving his high school speech awesome awesome awesome it's the same
answer he gave by the way nike i think they missed the boat here when he was at the lakers his first
question was how much pressure do you have to perform and
he said none there's no pressure i thought they were taking that answer in superimposing it over
his high school no no no it was the same answer basically in two different times that that
commercial really got me i was like this dude y'all like to watch me play basketball he says
it there it's like you're 100 hey lebr, you're 100% right. Hey, LeBron, you're 100% right. In high school, you were
selling out arenas all around the country.
Y'all like to watch me play basketball.
So I'm just going to go. I ain't going to guarantee
no championships. He changes town whenever he went
to Miami. That kind of was the moment
why people hate him. But if you don't like LeBron
after watching that commercial, I'm very confused by you.
I haven't seen it, for one.
But I'm more talking about how Rondo
was the biggest LeBron hater,
I think, in the NBA.
Lance Stevenson's over there, too.
Right.
Lance Stevenson.
Still starting to pot.
Rajon Rondo.
Oh, yeah.
They just picked up every LeBron hater.
They're like, just put them all in one squad and see what happens.
Yeah, the longest tenured Laker.
Can you name him?
We heard this this morning.
Brandon Ingram.
Yeah.
Nailed it.
And he got a four-game suspension, right?
Look at Diggins. And I'm also older than him.
Well, yeah, because he came in throwing fucking haymakers.
He came in real heavy-handed.
Everyone else came in to break it up.
He came in swinging.
Who did he not?
He wanted to go after Mello, I think, right?
It was Mello and Harden standing there.
Yeah, I don't know.
They said it was weird because him and Chris Paul trained in the offseason together.
He wasn't swinging at Chris Paul, though, I don't think.
No, I don't think so either. Rondo was swinging at Chris Paul, though, I don't think. No, I don't think so either.
Rondo was swinging at Chris Paul.
I think Ingram or Ingram?
Ingram.
Ingram.
Ingram.
He came in, I think, at mellow.
He shoved Harden earlier in the game and got teed up, too.
So he was kind of just off his rocker the whole night.
Everybody was kind of Stephen Jackson.
Stephen Jackson and Pac-Man Jones were commenting on each other's posts.
Stephen Jackson said,
I'm just here to see who all got involved with their teammate.
That's what Steven Jackson said.
And then Pac-Man was like, he gave like a, I concur.
He didn't say I concur, but it was something along those lines.
And then LeBron pulled Chris Paul out of there, though,
which is a very interesting move. They're best friends.
Banana Boat Boys.
It's a very interesting move.
Steven Jackson, football or basketball? Basketball. Stack five, guys. Stack five. Friend Boat Boys. It's a very interesting move. Steven Jackson, football or basketball?
Basketball.
Stack five, guys.
Stack five.
Friend of the show.
Friend of the show.
Did Melo do anything?
No.
No, he was standing right in front of Rondo.
I guess Rondo did spit on Chris Paul, though.
Sounds about right.
They have an entire other angle that they zoom in on it.
It was like a very sly spit, by the way.
He must have practiced it.
This is one of those shits you practice in the mirror
by the way. It was like don't move your lips
it was like it looked like a ventriloquist
trying to spit. It was like a
like the one you do through your teeth.
A gleek? No.
It seemed like he
like you put it out the end of your tongue
and he loaded it up on the tongue
in the chamber.
Did you guys see the Bleach Report thing they did for the Seinfeld?
Yes, I did.
Oh, my God.
I enjoyed that very much.
I didn't see it.
So there was an old skit where Keith Hernandez and I don't know who was the guy.
Nice game.
Spitter from the top of the...
And they made fun of a JFK skit and they put it together, but they did that for that.
It was the funniest thing I've ever seen.
The NBA had the highest rated regular season game since Warriors' record-breaking 73rd
win there for that Rockets.
Lakers in L.A.
That's early in the year to be getting ratings.
The NBA keeps going up and up every single year.
Do you think the NBA told LeBron to go to Lakers?
They didn't hate it.
But they probably said, get the fuck out of Cleveland.
Yeah, I think he wanted to be in L.A.
Okay, but the NBA, I think, could have potentially had a hand in this.
Like, hey, if we get you in Los Angeles,
we can put you on primetime every single night you play, basically.
You and Cleveland is tough.
We don't mind it.
It's a good story.
We like it.
Just a kid from Akron.
We like it.
We like everything you're doing.
But, boy, if you were to go to Los Angeles,
this would be better for everybody.
Do you think that was ever said by the NBA behind closed
doors? I think he's smart enough on his own to figure that
out. He's smart enough, a good enough
businessman to know that and just say,
okay, yeah, you don't even need to say it.
Maybe like a handshake, like, this is what's happening.
I know they love having the Warriors
and the Lakers, two teams now that
people on the East Coast will maybe stay up
for. Right. And Rockets.
Rockets are in Houston, which is only an hour behind.
Oh, that's on me.
Well, it'll be at 1030 is what I meant.
Yeah, they were in that game.
I think to your point, though,
they just realized that the NBA is better when the Lakers are relevant.
Well, so when I was a kid, when I was a kid,
we didn't have the NBA in Pittsburgh.
I didn't really play basketball much.
I didn't know much about basketball.
But I knew Kobe Bryant and the Lakers late night.
Cause when I couldn't sleep,
the purple and gold were on TV late night.
And that was like,
that was almost a team that I pulled for because they were on late night.
And if it was nothing else on sports wise,
that late night game was something I could go.
I'd go to bed with Kobe.
Okay.
There was no anal like in Denver,
but I went to bed with Kobe and it was, uh, wow like in Denver, but I went to bed with Kobe. And it was...
Wow.
He got kicked out of a film festival for that.
For what?
He's not going because of that.
No, they didn't let him in because of that.
Yeah, they pulled his film from it.
For what?
Because of the accusations.
Controversy surrounding it.
Because he cheated on his wife.
Apparently.
I think it's because of the other reason.
The other one.
What?
The R word.
Yeah.
Rhymes with grape. Didn't it come out, though, that The other one. What? The R word. Yeah. It rhymes with grape.
Didn't it come out, though, that it wasn't, right?
Right, yeah.
Well, there's always accusations.
I mean, I still get tweets about Ben Roethlisberger,
even though he got acquitted.
Oh, yeah.
Well, see, there's another thing.
Just like Ray Lewis.
Ray Lewis never came out and talked about the entire trial,
about how it was literally a jury came out and said that it was just self-defense.
It was always hidden, so now everybody thinks Ray Lewis really did murder.
You just said it earlier today.
No, no, that was me.
That was my bookie.
Oh, of course.
Yeah, you're just quoting other people.
But I didn't know that that was still happening with Kobe,
because I thought after he gave that fucking $25 million ring to his lady,
it was all...
He changed his number.
He went from 8 to 24.
Yeah.
Completely new Kobe.
Rebrand.
I didn't know that.
I thought that was just all accusations. I didn't know that I thought that was just all accusations
I didn't know that was actually a real thing
Well I mean it is all accusations
No charges were ever filed
Yeah exactly
It was very similar to the Rothlis brothers
Yeah very very similar
But Ben's not making movies
So we don't have to worry
From the mind of Kobe Bryant
Peyton Manning's got that now
Detail from the mind of Peyton Manning
Did you see that the clips they were showing
I watched the Josh Rosen one
yeah he made me bet on the fucking Cardinals because of that
that didn't work out
fucking Peyton's hyping up Josh Rosen
he's gonna be the next great one and then they get blown out by
40 you gotta remember Peyton his rookie year
through like 45 interceptions
Peyton was very terrible his rookie
season trying to figure it out and kept
slinging it. So I think Peyton does
kind of relate to the young quarterbacks
that struggle because he's like, listen, I was
in the same position you were.
I got a band now. We travel around
in a bus. That commercial,
I can't take it anymore. Him and Paisley.
We're a band.
I enjoy it. I enjoy the thought
of it. But that Paisley guy's the worst.
Couldn't they have somebody else in there that's, like, funny?
I know.
Get Tim McGraw in there.
Blake Shelton.
Tim McGraw.
Any of these.
Blake Shelton and Peyton Manning, by the way, in a commercial.
If we're going to do country musician and Peyton Manning, give me Blake Shelton.
That Paisley guy.
I don't know if he's from West Virginia.
He makes good music.
He should not speak, though.
And I don't like that they're making him look good in speaking. Because he's not. Tim McGraw's a phenomenal Virginia. He makes good music. He should not speak, though. And I don't like that they're giving him, like, making him look good in speaking.
Because he's not.
He's terrible.
Bill McGraw's a phenomenal actor.
Yeah, they have two country music stars.
One's a TV star and one's a movie star.
And you're not using either one.
And we forced Brad Paisley down our fucking...
Hard Knocks already did that.
He did terrible.
So bad.
So weird.
He's a West Virginia guy, so I have to, like, kind of like him because he's putting on for the state.
I love his music.
Yes, he's very good musically.
Very good musically.
Mm-hmm.
But stop the talk.
I'm sure he's a gentleman.
Stop the talk.
I'm sure he's a nice guy.
I'm sure he's...
Actually, I don't know after that creepy speech he gave to Baker Mayfield about buying the
RV and all that shit.
It's like, cuz, cuz, cuz.
People are watching you say this.
Unbelievable.
Anything else?
No, that's about it for me.
Red Sox win how many games?
Red Sox in six.
Who are they playing?
Dodgers.
It's a big one.
LA Boston is becoming a thing this year,
because then it's going to be Lakers, Celtics again.
LA Boston again.
And then Rams, Patriots.
Is that what you're saying?
No, no.
I just told you that.
The Rams are making it to the NHL.
No, I'm just saying, if it was, dickhead.
Why do you think the Rams aren't making it? Because I have a firm belief that if you beat a team No, no, I just told you that. No, I'm just saying if it was, dickhead.
Why do you think the Rams aren't making it?
Because I have a firm belief that if you beat a team in the regular season, when they come back around in the playoffs, they always win.
So because the Rams beat the Vikings 38-31 at home.
It's hard to beat teams twice.
It's hard to beat teams twice.
But it happens all the time.
Yeah, Patriots beat the Steelers twice.
Three times.
Yeah, the Steelers.
I heard on the first part.
Hold on.
Oh, I know. Believe me. The quote is beat the team three times, noters twice. Three times. Yeah, the Steelers. Le'Veon's always got hurt on the first play. Hold on. Oh, I know.
Believe me.
The quote is beat the team three times, not two times.
Three times.
It's hard to beat a team three times.
Three times.
Yeah, not two times.
Because two is just division play.
It happens all the time.
Saints-Vikings.
It really happens all the time.
People beat the team twice all the time in the regular season.
Happens all the time.
I don't believe me.
We're in the AFC East.
I know.
Fuck yourself.
Thanks for having me, guys.
I think we covered everything the NFL-wise, huh?
Yeah, actually, yeah.
I think we did.
We fucking killed it.
I think we did.
Colts fans, how do we feel?
Colts fans are good?
Colts fans feel good?
I feel good about Andrew Luck.
I think he looked, for most of the game,
he looked the most like old Andrew that I've seen.
He was able to escape trouble, get out of the pocket.
He was real patient like old Andrew,
letting the receiver open up again, make some plays.
But that's usually when he plays a good team when he gets hit.
So I don't know.
That's a good thing or not.
He's number two in the league in touchdown passes.
Eric Ebron, too, by the way, balling.
Detroit Lions are back, they say.
They called him Mike Patricia yesterday on TV
Matt Patricia seems to have the Lions
Doing some good things
Finally have a running back
For the first time ever
Good for you guys
I'm happy for the Colts
There was a time
Since we were at the game
There was a time Andrew Luck bailed out at the one
Where he could have ran a guy over for a touchdown.
And he chose not to.
I like what we're doing there.
Let's keep you maybe on the field a little bit longer.
The whole stadium was so confused.
They didn't know what to do.
They were like, should we cheer?
Should we not cheer?
He didn't want to kill himself there.
It's crazy.
I liked it.
Maybe he'll also stay off of mountains and snow since he's also doing that.
I like listening to Bruce Arians talk about old Andrew.
The way he was too tough for his own good, which isn't a smart thing.
I get it.
But he wasn't tough good.
I mean, he wasn't afraid to get hit.
Competitors.
Yeah.
VA, by the way, how do we think he's doing on the television?
Friend of the show.
We will say friend of the show.
Great man.
Would love to drink with him
knowing what he can do on a microphone because he's so freaking great when he calls into your
show he does it's like he's being held back and not very much yeah i think he feels boxed
it feels uncomfortable it does then it feels as if he's uncomfortable in there yeah and he looks
weird too sitting there those three men booth they pack them in there so tight.
It's like, can't you just back up a little bit more?
I feel like that whole area is much larger than they make it.
I don't fully understand it.
I might potentially get a three-man booth opportunity at some point.
Maybe.
Sure.
If I'm in there, by the way.
You're going to change their whole mind.
They're going to move the camera back.
Can't you not back up a little bit?
Wow, so much room.
Oh, that's crazy.
Now we're all sitting on top of each other.
It's crazy.
You don't have Bruce Arians sitting on Trent Green's lap.
Might be more comfortable for a Kangol kuzzy, by the way.
Elon Musk's first tunnel under LA is almost done.
Expecting to open on December 10th.
He's got that shit from that planet universe he's from.
Come back. Did this thing quickly?
Is that not what he probably made this tunnel with?
I will say though, it happened really fast.
It happened really, really fast.
Yeah, that's what happened.
I think he used the cartel.
Oh, you're saying the best tunnel builders on
Earth are the cartel.
You don't think it's potentially his
planet's tunnel digging thing?
He outsourced for sure. You think he outsourced to planet Earth's diggers, the cartel?
Yep.
The cars that they're using in this thing are definitely from his planet.
Correct.
They're electric.
They go 155 miles an hour.
Yeah.
They're on magnetic rails.
The Hyperloop ones go 700 miles an hour.
What?
Dude, he's an alien.
He's an alien.
He tweeted one time that I used to be an alien, by the way. Do somebody?
And that's a joke, I guess.
Well, someone said alien
and Elon are very close together as far
as names. And then definitely, LA is definitely
going to connect the tunnel
from LA to Chicago, Chicago to New York.
The aliens are just going to run the underground.
Does he have a brother that lives here too?
UGK.
Actually, no.
They'll probably connect LA to the Denver airport.
Denver airport to Chicago.
Chicago to New York.
I never thought about that.
LA Elon.
You can't forget about the fucking Denver airport.
All you need is an I.
Replace the O with an I.
It's basically Elon.
Alien.
He's definitely an alien. We're all in on this? Yeah, he's an alien. It's basically Elon.
He's definitely an alien, right?
We're all in on this?
Yeah, he's an alien. I am literally all in.
This might sound like just a gimmick.
Elon Musk is an alien.
We have to make sure that he knows
when this gets back to him
because, of course, they're all listening,
that we don't care.
I don't care that you're an alien.
You don't need to come kill us.
I have a Tesla.
I love it.
It's my favorite car.
We appreciate your technology. It's faster than every other us. I have a Tesla. I love it. It's my favorite car. We appreciate your technology.
It's faster than every other car that I have
that's supposed to be fast.
It's more durable than every other car that's supposed to be
more durable. Somehow
just runs on plugging it into my house.
I like what you've done, Elon,
but I do know that this shit
ain't from Earth. You are
going to your universe, to your planet,
bringing back those concepts and ideas
to here and making it happen, but I respect
it. I respect it, Elon.
Good for him. Falcon 9
was a UFO. When I was there,
I seen it with my own eyes.
I won't lie with you. That was a UFO.
And they were like, oh, that's Elon Musk. He's
figured out a way to disguise his own car
back to everybody.
He just goes home. He just goes home.
Coming in time.
Yeah, he goes back and visits.
It was an IFO.
It was an IFO.
Identified.
Because we know it's him.
You ain't playing any games with us.
We know what you're doing.
According to the Center for Immigration,
the South Indian language Telugu is the fastest growing in the U.S.,
growing by 86% over the past seven years
i've no clue what that means so it went from like seven people to 86 people that's great that would
be 86 i believe if you do the math quick math there what is this yeah no it just said that in
certain pockets of big u.s cities the uh this speaking language is like taking over pretty
much it's still not one of like the top 50 in the world, but they expect it to really skyrocket here
in the next few years.
So I want to get into,
obviously everybody knows I want to get into WWE.
And I also want to get into movies.
And if you watch The Rock's Blueprint,
you get into China, you're in a good spot.
I want to learn how to speak Mandarin.
Because John Cena just posted a video
of him speaking Mandarin.
And I know he's going to make $100 million
for the rest of his life every movie he puts out video of him speaking Mandarin. And I know he's going to make $100 million for the rest of his life
every movie he puts out because he can speak Mandarin.
This is something I should really Rosetta Stone the shit out of
and learn Mandarin.
Did he get the Erlacher surgery?
Does he have hair now?
That was his first time growing hair, though.
He just let it grow.
Personally, as somebody who's watched John Cena for so long,
it's very weird seeing him with hair.
It's very weird.
Erlacher, I think, looks really good.
John Cena, for some reason,
I think it just is weird to see him
with that hair. Erlacher, very weird to see him with hair,
but you go, oh, he looks good.
John Cena with hair, you're like, it looks weird.
It just looks fake.
It does, doesn't it? It looks like he just puts
the thing on and takes it off
and then speaks Mandarin.
I need to learn how to speak Mandarin. You learning
Mandarin or trying to read Mandarin would
be the greatest content that we've... What are these fucking
hieroglyphics?
The world's largest sea crossing bridge
to open between Hong Kong and China
in 2018. That's this year.
The 20 billion 34 mile
bridge will go across 11 cities
in effect around 68 million people.
Look at these idiots, still building stuff above ground.
They need their own alien.
Bro, hardcore.
Part of it does go beneath the sea.
Godzilla's going to wreck it in two months.
The only issue of going under the sea is you can never fix it.
That's what New York City is currently.
It's terrible.
You can never fix it. That's what New York City is currently. It's terrible. You can never fix it.
You are stuck with that for eternity
because it's under the bedrock.
Is that the subway 60 Minutes or whatever
that just came out this weekend?
Something like that?
I don't know.
Yeah, it was about how they can't fucking fix the subway
because it's under.
Well, I wouldn't even,
I'd assume that is the case
because we're in that goddamn bridge.
What's the tunnel?
Was it the Hudson?
No, it's the Lincoln.
That Hudson River? It might be the river,, it's the Lincoln. The Hudson River.
Was it the Lincoln?
It might be the river, but it's the Lincoln Tunnel, I think.
That goes from New Jersey into New York
where everybody and their mom is trying to get in
the most popular city on Earth.
And it's only two lanes in, two lanes out,
and it's under bedrock.
Can't fix it.
Can't change it.
Can't expand it.
You just got to live with it forever
because they went underwater.
Maybe going over top is smart
until you get your own alien like Elon Musk.
Smart. You need your own alien like Elon Musk. Smart.
That's what you need, your own alien.
I don't know how anybody thinks Elon isn't an alien
at this point.
That's how far into Elon Musk being an alien that I am.
That's how far I'm at.
Matt Groening, time traveler, Elon Musk is an alien.
I think we're all in the same picture.
Yeah.
Are people doubting it?
I think maybe
after this show
we maybe do a lot of research
and we put together
kind of like a
what you did for Groning
for Elon
and then just start
whipping it out
yeah
how do you create a car
that's faster than a Lambo
Ferrari and everything like that
and has no gas
alien technology
what
alien technology
he didn't speak into the mic
and he didn't speak English either
he just
he ran his words together
But I heard
Alien technology
I think
Alien technology
A lioness at the Indy Zoo
Killed the father of her three cubs
Over the weekend
Suffocating it to death
Strangled that motherfucking thing
I've seen a dateline like this
It's not good
That's what wives do
Isn't that right Todd?
Hi-yo
Makes sense
They were together for eight years
That's about the mark
We decided
We're really gonna be together forever
We're gonna end this When you're going to be together forever.
We're going to end this.
When you're in a cage together, it's like divorce is an option.
This guy's a killer.
This one really hit you.
This one really hit home in the jungle for Todd McCullough.
Yeah, I get that.
NYPD is recalling almost 3,000 body cams after one ignited and blew up over the weekend. So we got hoverboards, vape pens, and now body cameras.
It was a Samsung body cam. That's probably what it was.
Oh, it's for the batteries.
This also sounds like a possible,
yeah, they're blowing up so we can
pull the body cameras.
I don't have to wear them anymore.
You saw it. The one blew up on fucking
Detective Sarge over there.
I'm not doing it.
You think Detective Sarge's chest can hang on? I can't handle it. I'm not putting one of You think we'll detect the Sarge's chest?
I'm not putting one of these body cameras on ever again.
Yeah, I'm going right back in Precinct 25.
Going right back in. I won't wear a body camera that'll blow me up. I won't be safe.
That seems like that's what happened.
Host
of Pat McAfee's show, Nick Morata Blows Colorbone.
That was right here on the
shoot.
I don't know what you're talking about.
It's right here on the right here on the I don't know what you're talking about it's right here on the
bottom
oh there it is
don't take that off
you're gonna hurt yourself
Ty Schmidt makes a list
of things we should
talk about
each show
very nice
normally I don't
stick on
today we did
we've knocked out
everything to be honest
we really did
we knocked out
everything on there
which is good
probably a pretty good
show if I had to guess
I assume it was
Ray Carruth released
from prison after
almost 20 years
we talked about that
right?
yeah I don't think
it should have
you don't think he should have.
You don't think he should have been released?
Not all murders are created equal.
This type of murder where you kill your pregnant girlfriend.
Hire someone.
Hire someone.
Yeah, either way.
Same thing.
I don't think that's a 20-year.
I think that's probably more of like a 50-year.
It's very interesting because when I mentioned it earlier, it was like, well, people respect like you do your time, right, for the crime.
it earlier it was like will people respect like you do your time right for the crime by the way his his uh lawyer david rudolph staircase lawyer was ray caruth's lawyer really yeah david rudolph
got him a good deal too david rudolph was his lawyer so i got a chance to talk to david rudolph
privately after the interview with my show about everything and he was like yeah ray caruth's
getting out too this october he was a client of mine i was like who's regular he's like oh
carolina Panthers player
who hired somebody to kill his wife or girlfriend or whatever.
Yeah, David Rudolph was his.
That's wild.
It is crazy.
Very, very small world for him.
It's so...
I don't know if Ray Caruth knows
what type of world he's walking into right now.
Not a clue.
He has no clue.
The world has changed so much.
44 years old, he comes out,
and he has this stigma around him.
It's not even stigma.
It's a label.
It's a real thing, though.
It's a real thing where people, things that weren't heard about way 20 years ago,
are now killing people's careers, as they should, by the way.
People do terrible things.
It comes to light, whatever, blah, blah, blah, keep it moving.
Ray Carruth, it's known what he did 20 years ago.
Yeah.
And now he has no chance at all.
He's never seen an iPhone.
Well, most people have been in jail.
Goodness is like people can't unearth bad tweets
that he tweeted like six, seven years ago.
Spinzone.
Optimism for Ray Carruth possibly
that he didn't tweet anything stupid.
I don't know what he's going to have.
I think he just wants to disappear.
I was going to say he'll probably be like
bagging groceries or something, won't he?
Yeah, it all depends on how he chooses to handle it, right?
Does he try and get
into the public eye?
Does he do a bunch of interviews?
That's strictly us, right.
Or does he just kind of
put his head down
and get back to work?
Do you set up your own
paparazzi at a gas station
your first trip out of jail
like O.J. Simpson did?
I don't think Ray Carruth
is going to do that.
I think Ray Carruth
is just going to disappear.
Yeah, that would be the move.
That's from my conversations
with his lawyer, David Rudolph,
is that Ray Carruth
is just going to disappear.
Oh, inside info.
Oh, inside information.
He could be wrong, though.
Who knows?
This is what I heard.
It seems as if his lawyer told me that he is just going to want to disappear.
Probably the right move, by the way.
A lot of people probably wish he was still in jail, Diggs being one of them.
If he just disappears and doesn't do anything wrong ever again, keep him moving.
He doesn't exist in my world.
It's a wild take for me to have, too.
I'm proud of myself. Very moral high ground. ground yeah it's a wild for me it's hard
to get on his side though i don't know that's tough man it's tough to get behind because the
boy lived the son lived and now he's like physically and mentally disabled cerebral
palsy and something did the girlfriend die yeah yes i think he is messed up from complications
of her dying and then them having to deliver the child.
Oh, so I thought it was like a dateline where he was attempting to hire somebody
and got unfoiled.
No, it went through with her.
Yeah, she actually died.
She was shot four times, I think.
She was able to deliver the baby because of complications of her being wounded.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's why I think it should be more than 20.
It's because it actually happened.
I didn't know that.
See, I thought it was because they keep saying he hired somebody to do it.
I didn't know it actually did happen.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I read the thing today.
It said that they were in the car together,
and he had it planned so that this guy was going to pull up aside them
while she was still in the car, and she got shot four times.
She didn't die that day.
I think it was, yeah, a couple days later.
And she was a warrior like she got on the phone made the 911 call and made sure they knew
ray did this like that's how that yeah that's how they knew she like hung on long enough to say hey
just so you know i'm dying this is the guy who did it holy shit that changes everything then
what a terrible, terrible person.
For him only getting 20,
it also shows how good of a lawyer David Rudolph is again.
Best lawyer on earth, that guy.
He's in trouble.
David Rudolph's the guy.
That sucks, though.
That's terrible.
It's terrible.
It's like, what do you do?
Because I am a firm believer,
if you do your time,
you get a second chance in this world.
But a crime like that,
it's like, that's tough. 44 is young. He's got a lot of time a lot of time he's got like 40 years left
because i'm sure he was living pretty healthy you're not living unhealthy you're not abusing
drugs and alcohol that's true you know you're eating what stand two hots in a car or whatever
you're working out probably mentally it's probably terrible obviously 20 years being in a cage but
still he's got a lot of life left to live i didn't know the person i didn't know the girl died i thought it was like a date
line they saw it all unfold like it went to like uh like he went to a cop who was actually yeah
one of those which was natural to assume because that's usually the sentence i didn't know like
that would get versus the other yes i think that's why i thought 20 years i was like oh he must have
got caught in the middle i didn didn't know it actually happened.
I'm surprised they didn't bring it up in the Steyr case at all.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, same kind of case.
Not really the same, but like a death.
It's not even close.
Nowhere near.
Well, like, he was convicted for murdering his wife, right?
What, he paid an hour to come in the car?
Well, no, like the whole prosecution thought that he killed her, right?
Yeah, but I think David Rudolph has been the defense for,
there's a lot of murders.
I think he's been around a lot of murders.
Granted, the Rake Ruth one is a big one.
So you would think that is a notable one that they would maybe mention.
But I don't think there's any similarities between the two
that it would be referenceable, if that makes sense.
Not speaking for David Rudolph, but I would assume
maybe that's one of those cases where he's like,
I'm not here to prove you innocent.
I'm here to get you the best deal possible because that's my job.
Jeez.
God damn it.
So they caught the guy that shot her?
Yep.
And then he just rolled over on Ray?
Yeah, I think so.
He got 40 years.
The guy that did it got 40 years of jail?
Yeah, the guy that shot her.
So that probably kept him, I'm guessing kept him from the death sentence
as giving information on who hired him.
Probably, if I had to guess.
How much do you think Ray paid that guy?
That's what we need to know.
We hear of all these ridiculous ones where people try to do it.
Five grand.
People pay on Dateline.
It's like five grand, 7,500 bucks sometimes.
It's like motherfuckers are dying for 7,500 bucks. Why does a first-round draft pick pay? It's different five grand, 7,500 bucks sometimes. Yeah. It's like motherfuckers are dying for 7,500 bucks.
Why does a first round draft pick pay?
It's different probably.
He was 24 in a first round draft pick.
So he was playing for the Panthers.
Oh, yeah.
Like he was a star of their team.
He had like a $13.7 million contract or something, I think.
Back then.
It's a pretty big one.
Yeah.
What the fuck's he doing?
I'm no longer on his side.
I'm a true rock and jerk. I was never on his side no you were never
on it but i was always giving him the benefit yeah you did the crime you do the time i didn't
know that actually killed somebody though that's fucking terrible i didn't know the hitman thing
ever worked by the way just like i i never believe people in high speed chases ever get away
because all you see on tv is high speed chase bust all you see on tv is high-speed chase bust all you
see on tv is hitman fake hire bust bing bang boom you keep it moving i didn't know it actually ever
happens it's it's a guy but it's such a fascinating thing to me you bringing it up it's perfect
because how do you treat this person the justice was served this is what justice said justice is
he complied he He did it.
And from what I say, he was a model inmate.
He had a job.
He worked in there, and he did his time.
And now he's out, and he said,
all I want to do is try to develop a relationship with my son,
which is weird because he's a victim of it.
But, you know, I don't know.
What do you do with the person then?
I don't know.
If you're a world like we are that's supposed to,
prison is supposed to accomplish this thing. you're supposed to be punished for your crimes
and reform that's what everyone wants right ideally and if he's a different person now i
mean that's a horrible obviously choice to make but if you spent 20 years or 18 years in prison
and now you are a different he was a very young man when he went in there what do you do with what
do we do how do i what how what happens
with rake ruth yeah that'll be a very interesting question that time will tell i mean he's not
babysitting my kid but i don't know you know what casey anthony rake ruth both fuck have a kid keep
him over that's what happens yeah dicks can see it happening look he's he's picturing it right now. Last stat here. Nick Roto, collarbone,
RIP Saturday,
October 20th.
That's what I have here on the notes.
It says fractured.
Fractured? Mine says rest in peace.
It just died. Yours is fractured?
Six to 12 weeks.
I have the medical version of the notes.
High level, top notch, grade one, piece of shit.
Nick Roto used to have
two functioning collarbones. Used to have
two functioning hands. Yeah, it was a good clavicle.
It was a good clavicle. I think people would say
that Nick Morado's clavicle was above average.
Oh, yeah. People were angry about your clavicles. Didn't stick out too much,
but there was some nice definition.
Not strong. It wasn't strong, but it was good.
I mean, it made it 32 years.
It never really got tested much. It was more of
a model clavicle as opposed to an action clavicle.
Yeah, I would say it's a good way to put it.
I do have a good model shape.
What happened?
Yeah, what did happen to your clavicle that had a good run for 32 years there?
Let's see.
What did I tell people so far?
I told them that I fell off a ladder working around the house.
Oh, real banjo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was windy Saturday.
I mentioned it was a pickup football game.
But no, the real story is
I was out with Zito and Evan.
We went out to go get some food.
Had a couple drinks.
Got a little excited.
We hit some pool tabs.
Won a $500 pool tab.
It was going to be a good day.
Hi-yo.
Hitting those pool tabs, by the way,
seems like hitting a Powerball
when you're in there
because everybody's losing on us.
Oh, we were riding high after that.
Riding high.
Chevy riding high, boy. For you that don't know a pool tab which
i didn't know what it was you go to a bar and it's basically these little tabs that pop open
it's just like a scratch off yeah you're basically getting a scratch off at the bar the bar rakes in
money one person out of 5 000 wins pretty much and if you win 500 while you're in the bar you're
considered kind of a piece of shit if you just close your tab and leave with the $500.
Yeah.
I mean, you're supposed to spend it in the bar on your friends.
Yeah, it's stupid.
It's a stupid thing, but it's very addicting and enjoyable.
Yeah.
But anyways, the group you guys were with won $500.
You guys were riding very high.
Yeah, and you guys know I've had some shit going on.
I've been kind of down on the dumps more than usual, blah, blah, blah.
But I was like, this Saturday, I was like, you know what? Let's let it go.
Let's have a good time. Let's get out there. Let's go
after it. And we did. The glass was half
full on Saturday. It was.
Very positive Nick on Saturday. Wow, that's crazy.
Optimistic Nick. It's weird how this works.
Optimistic. So Foxy
says, he mentions that he has to go back to the office
to get a camera for your
showing tomorrow. The old man bit.
I was like, okay, whatever, no problem.
He was like, let's run back there, and then we'll come back out.
I was like, all right, cool.
We walk outside.
I'm sorry that didn't affect your evening, by the way, Foxy.
Big day the next day.
We'll just go get the camera drunk, and we'll go back out.
Just had to charge it up.
That's all.
Yeah, that's all.
$70,000 for cancer.
It's no big deal.
No big deal.
I'll go out.
I'll go back. Oh, no, we ran out of good time. Oh, yeah course so we're like all right you know what do we get an uber walk 70 000 for cancer yeah we'll go and
then we'll go back life-changing for someone who is a victim of anybody yeah who could potentially
have kids oh it was life-changing trip for sure okay Okay. Sorry. So Zito, I think, was like, let's scoot.
There's scooters right here.
Oh, put that on me.
It was.
It was Zito that said it.
I heard him say it.
So immediately in my head, I thought, probably shouldn't.
Probably.
My first thought was just stay at the bar and keep drinking.
Second thought was get an Uber.
Third thought was like, all right, I'll jump on here.
Everyone's doing it.
Let's go.
In my defense, though, I would never want to do a physical activity like scooter.
Even though you're electric, you got a push start.
I would never want to do that.
I'm an Uber guy.
Yeah.
You very much wanted to do it in so facto that I tried to sign up and download the app
and it wouldn't accept my credit card, which was another warning sign that I shouldn't
have done this.
And that Zito actually got the scooter for me on his account.
Nice guy.
Yeah.
Was a very nice guy.
I appreciated it.
Nice guy. So we get on the scooters. We go over. We go. Yeah, because I couldn't afford it. I appreciated it. I bought it for him.
Nice guy.
So we get on the scooter as we go to the office.
Foxy charges the camera.
It's like four blocks.
Yep.
Yeah, not too far.
But amazingly fun.
Like, we're zooming on these things.
And I'm like, this is a great time. They're fast.
Let's go.
15 miles an hour.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're fast.
Very fast.
And we're on the sidewalks.
Apparently, you're not supposed to be on the sidewalks.
It says as soon as you start the ride.
It says don't go on sidewalks.
Didn't know that because I didn't have the app on my phone.
Oh, Zito didn't tell you.
That's a Zito.
Sounds like a lawsuit coming.
Oh, it sounds like a Zito, too.
Like, eh, but we won't finish the deal.
What's David Rudolph doing right now?
But, you know, on the trip there, I got a little cocky.
And I was like, we're really gunning it.
Hammer down the whole way.
And I'm thinking to myself, man, I can't believe more people don't get hurt on these things.
These things fly.
How aren't some old motherfucker get on this and just bust their face open?
So on the way back, I've already made one trip.
I'm like, we're good to go.
So I start zooming down the sidewalk.
I'm looking behind me, seeing what's going on.
All of a sudden, I felt a little wobble.
Tried to ditch it.
Took like one or two steps.
Knew I was going down.
Tried to tuck and roll.
Tucked.
Didn't roll as much as I wanted to.
Right under my shoulder.
Snap.
Oh, Aaron Rodgers.
Sam Bradford.
So immediately, I knew something was wrong.
And I popped up and I grabbed my shoulder.
I was like, ah, that fucking hurt.
Like, that hurt. I'm gripping my teeth. He's like, oh, fuck. I shoulder. I was like, ah, that fucking hurt. Like, that hurt.
I'm gripping my teeth.
He's like, ah, fuck.
I'm walking around thinking, like, okay, okay, okay.
You're all right.
You popped right back up.
You picked the scooter up.
You're good.
You get back on it.
You keep going.
I knew.
I couldn't lift my arm above my shoulder.
I was like, something is wrong.
He texted me for a diagnosis.
I told him it was just a sprain.
Well, in my head, I was like, I was like, all right. right i either broke my collarbone it's an ac joint
classic andrew luck situation or my shoulder separated which would have been the highlight
that would have been the goal right there as a shoulder separation i get home i'm like all right
i'll sleep it off see how i feel tomorrow wake up go to the colts game with you guys have a good
time grit and bear it the whole time after that i'm I'm like, I should go get an x-ray.
Go get an x-ray.
I'm in the x-ray room.
The x-ray tech takes the x-rays, and I'm looking at them.
They're on the wall.
I can see them.
Oh, boy.
And I'm like, oh, it looks like there's nothing there.
And by this point, it already feels a little bit better.
I'm more loose with it.
Oh, things opt in.
We're coming around.
Yeah, I'm like, all right, shoulder separation.
Here we go.
This is good.
Ligaments, you know, who needs them?
They'll loosen up.
They'll be good. I was like, oh, so nothing too jarring, all right, shoulder separation. Here we go. This is good. Ligaments. Who needs them? They'll loosen up. They'll be good.
I was like, oh, so nothing too jarring, I assume, because he didn't see him out of the ordinary.
He's like, well, technically, I can't really read it.
I can't tell you legally.
I'm not allowed to read it.
I was like, okay, fine.
Radiology is a four-year school.
Need another six years to read that thing.
But I was like, no big deal.
This guy seems casual about it.
I go sit down.
The nurse practitioner comes back in the room.
She goes, she knocks on the door,
slowly opens it and goes,
yeah, it's way
broke.
Fuck.
That's year seven, by the way. It's way broke.
By the way, it's way
broke, bro.
That thing's way broke.
I'm going back now and I'm looking because I was drunk at a wedding, 945 on Saturday night.
He goes, 40% chance I broke a collarbone.
I said, love that.
You fall?
Stinks.
Just vibing, shoulder bumping.
Love that, man.
You just fall.
I love what you're doing.
So I think this is a message for everybody.
These lion and bird scooters are incredibly fun.
They're saving the environment.
One scoot at a time. You're not incredibly fun. They're saving the environment one scoot at a time.
You're not using gas.
They're efficient.
You don't have to pay much.
But what they don't come with is a confidence warning.
You're going to be tooting around on that thing.
It's just a two-and-a-half-inch piece of metal that you're standing on, by the way,
three inches metal across.
And you're going 15 miles an hour, and you might be on there for 10, 15 minutes,
and you might really start feeling yourself you might think back to the days in high school when you were
tony hawk pro skateboarder or maybe you were on a mongoose bmx bike and you were just fucking
grinding everywhere you had the shoes that could grind on and you think you know what i have good
balance i'm a monster on this thing i've been on here 10 minutes or so i figure it out i know where the brakes are but what it doesn't tell you is hey listen
your confidence is wrong this is something like you haven't done in 10 years from now
you haven't done for 15 years your body weight is gonna send you one way and this scooter is
gonna go another way out of nowhere when i was on that thing in la it was my first time ever
bird scootering around.
I thought on numerous occasions,
I have no clue how people don't fuck themselves up
because it's very easy to be wide open.
And then if you have to stop with the quickness,
there's a lot of dexterity there
from thumb to brake to everything.
And then the wobble quick out of nowhere.
And it's only three inches wide that you're standing on.
And there's
there's a lot of potential for injury not that i ever want them to see them disappear but i have
no clue how they're going to withstand the lawsuits that are going to get not from nick
but from humans exactly like nick who not only popped their collarbone but potentially their
face and head open which is right around the corner you are exactly there's very little i
just wrote one the other day and i was like there's very little, I just rode one the other day and I was like, there's very little between me
and the street right now.
And the problem is,
if you have to,
for some reason,
because of a flaw in the street
or whatever,
bail from that,
your feet are at zero miles an hour
when they're on there.
Oh yeah,
I saw that real quick.
And in a blink of an eye,
be 15 miles an hour.
Yep.
That means you're going to fall.
Well,
you've got to be an athlete.
Well,
they don't tell you about
the holes in the sidewalk
that they give donkey tours down to the an athlete. Well, they don't tell you about the holes in the sidewalk that they give donkey tours down to the bottom.
Indianapolis.
Well, I'm happy for you, chicken wing.
I think it's a good thing.
But yeah, I took a lot of shots there, Foxy.
I mean, it's all on me.
I know it.
I'm an idiot.
Like, I deserve what I got.
I think you're being a little hard on yourself.
I mean, that's a very difficult thing.
When I was on it in Los Angeles,
I very much understood how people get fucked up on it
because I have a motorcycle.
I am a person who has good balance.
I can hoverboard around anywhere.
I have great balance.
I'm very lucky with that whole thing.
But there was a couple times where I was in L.A.
where I almost fucking ate shit.
I'm like, man.
You got some people
are very unathletic looking motherfuckers trying to spend 50 cents to get a quarter of a mile there
there's some bad situations that could be cooking here and nick who's an athlete in all names is now
frankie one arm and i can't wait to watch his clavicle recover you might need a surgery huh
they say i think it's like five to ten percent of people who break their collarbone need surgery
you can bet your bottom dollar I'm going to be in that class.
We're proud of you.
We're thankful for you.
I can't wait to see how this turns into some content.
You can't use your right hand for the next at least month,
which is hysterical to think about.
You're a right-handed man.
It's awesome. I drive a stick.
Can't do that.
You have a manual transmission.
He has to borrow one of my cars.
Supposed to move in like three weeks. Yeah, he has to borrow one of my cars.
Supposed to move in like three weeks. That's going to be tough to do.
Sounds like Ty's moving
for two. Well, we
got movers, so I don't know.
I'm not going to be doing a lot of moving. You want him to have the company car?
What's that? The company car?
Yeah, I'm going to give him a company car. I'm going to give him a company
car for sure. Very grateful for that.
It wasn't the company Bentley, but I didn't ask for the top.
Anything I can get at this point.
That Bentley's battery's dead.
It's got one busted clavicle, too.
I don't know if you want that.
Hashtag endgame, hashtag endgame.
Send us a picture of something a person with one arm can do.
That's what Nick's life is for the next six weeks.
Thank you so much for listening.
I hope you're having a blast.
We're so thankful for all of you. So, so much for listening. I hope you're having a blast.
We're so thankful for all of you.
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