The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 015 - Grandpa McAfee, NFL Recap, & Aliens

Episode Date: October 23, 2018

On today's show, Pat recaps a wild weekend dressing up as a grandpa and hammering field goals for cancer research at the Colts game, the guys dive into a full NFL recap including Hue Jackson wanting t...o call plays for the Browns again, Amari Cooper being traded to the Cowboys for a 1st round pick, the Titans going for 2 and the win in London, the judgement call that affected the outcome of the Cowboys and Redskins, and Justin Tucker missing his first career extra point. Pat also rants about the CFL's post about who they think the best kicker on the planet is, the guys chat about Elon Musk definitely being an alien and his series of tunnels slated to be opened in LA in December, discuss Rae Carruth being released from prison, and cover everything else going on in the world. It's a good one. Come laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:02 They have a really cool prop bet up right there, up on my bookie right now, of which of the NFL murderers will die first. Okay. It's Ray Carruth, OJ Simpson, and Ray Lewis. Oh. It's a nice little prop bet on there that they put out this morning on who would die first.
Starting point is 00:02:17 That is a nice little prop bet. We will talk about Ray Carruth, who technically didn't murder anybody, but he definitely wanted somebody dead. Two people dead, because the lady was pregnant with a baby. He did his time, though. He's come out.
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Starting point is 00:05:11 a chance to do a lot of really cool stuff i mentioned last week's on last week's podcast that i have something huge coming up on sunday but i haven't even really got to think about it because so much happened that is true let me set this the story behind the uh pappy grandpa mcafee uh three field goals for 70 000 that happened on sunday at the colts game we'll talk about vinitary helping out old nicky boy oh yeah big time hard big time nick saw derrick anderson playing quarterback coming into the colts building and hammered the under vinitary misses two extra points doesn't get sent out for a field goal. All of a sudden, it's a half a point under the over-under.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Am I correct? Yeah, and I know how much that record means to him. So that meant a lot to me that he would be willing to put that off another week to give me a win. And that record meant a lot to me, too. I stayed for that entire fucking game hoping to win the position. Me and Todd were accosting people that were leaving Lucas Oil Stadium early
Starting point is 00:06:06 when there was still a chance. All Vinny needs is five more points. And there was like seven minutes left in the game. We had the ball. Very easily could have went down, kicked the field goal. Now all we need is two points with five minutes left. There's another chance for Vinny Terry. That all-time leading scorer that Vinnyieri could have got in Sunday's game,
Starting point is 00:06:25 people were just leaving. Like they were trying to beat the fucking traffic. This is a once-in-a-lifetime effect. Get your fucking ass back into seats. That's what we were saying. Those Colts fans are like those horrible parents. You're like, hey, Mom and Dad, I won the Nobel Peace Prize. You want to come to the ceremony?
Starting point is 00:06:43 And they're like, I don't know. What's the traffic going to be? Washington. You're like, hey, mom and dad, I won the Nobel Peace Prize. You want to come to the ceremony? And they're like, I don't know. What's the traffic going to be? Washington, whatever it is. What's the traffic like on the way out? I think if we get a head start, we can miss the Nobel Peace Prize. But we'll see the beginning, and then we'll be able to get out of there before everybody else. That was honestly what happened.
Starting point is 00:07:04 But it turns out, just like I thought, Vinatieri has a hurt groin. I was – He called it right away, too. I literally was watching him kick, and I'm like, oh, it looks like he's hurt. It looks like Vinatieri's hurt. And it turns out I was 100% right. Coming out of halftime, he was late, which would have never happened. I'm like, oh, Vinny's hurt. Vinny's very –
Starting point is 00:07:17 And then you watch the ball fly. It's like, oh, he's definitely – And then after the game comes out, he has a hurt groin. Doesn't get the points record. Don't know what the Colts are going to do for the next couple weeks. Well, I got a banger of a poem coming out as soon as vinitaria fox you and i really want to work on it we took our time on it i feel pretty good about it it's very good it's a very good and we thought we're going to be able to release it this past weekend i was excited maybe it happens at the raiders this weekend if he powers through this
Starting point is 00:07:40 groin injury by the way snow game kick, Oakland Raiders, John Gruden. All-time leading scorer, potentially, Raiders, John Gruden. So that would be a nice coming-of-age story for the $100 million coach. Fuck them. Who knows? The Bills did their best to help Vinny, too. The Bills. Boy.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Five turnovers. They're just handing the ball over. Nathan Peterman, Derek Anderson, Colin Kaepernick, still not in the NFL. Still not in the NFL. Still not in the NFL. And I am not a big, like, yo, Colin Kaepernick deserves a chance guy because I think with every decision you make, there are repercussions. I honestly believe there are repercussions, especially in a business, right? This is a business.
Starting point is 00:08:18 The NFL is a business. Nick, we'll get to your decisions too. But I do believe all these terrible quarterbacks playing football on a regular basis only feeds the narrative though that like hey there's a guy literally there's a you know him he's in every fucking game he's in a commercial of every fucking game he's a very tall athletic guy can he make all the throws no but can your quarterback no definitely not your quarterback's completing it to the other team more often than not you should think about maybe bringing this guy.
Starting point is 00:08:45 It's tough not to think. Colin Kaepernick is still out there. Neither here nor there. Bills suck. Bills Mafia doesn't deserve it. Why Josh Allen not play? Is he hurt? Yeah, his elbows hurt.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Okay, makes sense. All right, good. He went to Dr. James Andrews, so you know it's legit. That guy gets everybody. The marketing that motherfucker has over the orthopedic world. Of all time. The greatest of all time. A few weeks, he'll be back.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I tried to get my knee done by him. Yeah. I literally got put on like a waiting list. I was so far down. He's like, oh, I'll have my assistant doctor check it out. I'm like, well, I'm not coming for fucking John Jackson, who's the assistant of James A. I'm coming for you, bub.
Starting point is 00:09:19 It was a very interesting dynamic. Got mine, Dr. Clotewijk here in Indianapolis, Indiana. Did a great job. Did a great job. Did a fine job. Did a fine job on my knee. I'm right back in the game. Literally punting balls very well right now. We'll see how that goes.
Starting point is 00:09:31 But before the Colts game, a 70-year-old man, 80-year-old man maybe. I don't know how old that old balls guy was. I'd say 80. He was on the Mayflower, so he's pretty old. 80, low 80s. From Baltimore. 1987. But I got a chance to do something with the Colts, which was really cool.
Starting point is 00:09:47 The Colts' new PR guy, Matt Conte, is a friend of mine. He was the assistant PR guy for the Colts whenever I was there. He was the one who was told that he had to come talk to me whenever they weren't happy with something that I did. So he and I, we built up a friendship. He gets it, by the way. He's a guy that gets it. He understands that these are jokes and I'm not offending anybody.
Starting point is 00:10:08 There's nothing bad happening. It's just jokes. But he and I, he became the head PR guy. So now he's trying to basically mend fences between me and the Colts, which is a cool thing because I had quite a hard feeling towards the Colts leaving because A, I was getting fined by a barbarian for bullshit where he was terrible at his job. B, I didn't enjoy the way they just hand out number one jerseys to
Starting point is 00:10:29 everyone, which they still do. Saw a lot of one jerseys just being handed out. The bridge needed some construction. Yes, so Conte is trying to basically mend fences. Like, hey, listen, Colts have done a lot of good for you, Pat. I'm like, I agree. The Colts have done a lot. Jim Ursae and I have never like, I agree. The Colts have done a lot.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Jim Irsay and I have never had any beef. The Irsay family has taken care of me well. I've also done a lot for the Colts, though. Conte sees that, right? So they asked me two weeks ago, they're like, here's what we're thinking. First, we have the shoot with Bud Light before the game. Basically, it's like a friendship test with Bud Light. Will you come be the host of that?
Starting point is 00:11:03 I'm like, absolutely, sure. They're like, fine. They paid me for it, which is really cool. And then a day later, they're like, hey, that same day you're coming to the Bud Light. Will you come be the host of that? I'm like, absolutely. Sure. They're like, fine. They paid me for it, which is really cool. And then a day later, they're like, hey, that same day you're coming to the Bud Light thing. Is there any way we could potentially do a cancer research fundraiser with you? I was like, absolutely. Right. Because I've done a lot of work with the military. I think I'm at like 750, maybe $800,000 that I've donated to military foundations throughout my career, whether it's tickets and money and scholarships and all that shit. But I kind of, although I still will continue to help military foundations, my foundation does that, I kind of want to also help out cancer
Starting point is 00:11:33 because I got a chance to check out my family tree. And I've always said this, that son of a bitch is not tall. And the gardener of that thing, the landscaper of that tree, the one that saw them all down is cancer. So it's something where I kind of wanted to pivot towards and not pivot but also help that out so they said here's the idea we have basically just like in jackass johnny knoxville bad grandpa you put on a grandpa thing you saw the uncle drew thing you'll put on this old man mask that we're gonna buy it'll be a good mask i promise it'll be good mask you'll go out you kick uh 20 yard 30
Starting point is 00:12:05 yard and a 40 yard field goal off of a tee we'll donate 70 000 if you do that if not we'll donate 30 000 if you only hit two out of the three blah blah blah i'm like cool sounds good to me in between that conversation and then i had to go to the wwe i had to do a full meeting with like two different companies i had to travel to like three different cities. I didn't even think about this. I completely forgot it was even really happening until about Saturday. I didn't know about it until Friday. You're like, yep, you're going to be filming this.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Yeah, so I retired so I could focus more on these types of things. But what turns out happening is just so many things just start lining up that it can't even happen. So on Saturday, I'm literally sitting at my house i'm like oh fuck dude when was last time you kicked a ball off a tee because it's a very different ball game people that don't i'm always at a bigger disadvantage than a person who has no idea how to get because to them just kicking a ball off a tee they're just kicking something it's for me that inch difference is a huge difference when you're kicking a ball it's like i i started like almost like oh fuck seventy thousand dollars in line for cancer research bro this could be helping a lot of people and you're just gonna wing it you're
Starting point is 00:13:14 you haven't kicked a fucking ball of a t in two years you're just gonna wing it so i like got up out of bed and i was like sam need you to come shag some balls she's like what do you mean i was like well i'm going down to the barn because it was so windy so the ball wouldn't stay on the tee. So I had to go down to the barn and kick out of the barn into my backyard. I kicked two balls off of a tee I had and I was like, yeah, we're good.
Starting point is 00:13:34 We're good. We'll see how it goes. We're good. We're good. So I go there Sunday. I do the Bud Light shoot beforehand. We end up awarding a guy named Ryan and his fiancee Cecily from Texas.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Sideline passes because they knew each other. It was like a newlywed game. That video should be pretty good, by the way. That should be a pretty cool video. Then I go into the stadium, and it was all so rushed, so quick. Everything was very quick. As soon as I do that Bud Light thing, we go right inside for the cancer research thing.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I sit down in a green room, basically, in the basement of Lucas Oil Stadium. It was huge, by the way. The amount of room that they give these people who aren't on the team is insane. It was bigger than the Colts. How big was that fucking room we had? About the size of a locker room. It was the size of a locker room. I had a flat screen TV.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I had Dasani Waters. The Colts, it was like first class operation. I'm like, this is so nice. Thank you. As soon as I get in there, Blue comes in. Colts mascot, Blue. He comes in with his grandpa mask, my outfit, my costume. And they're like, all right, we're up in 14 minutes.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I'm like, 14 minutes? I haven't even put this fucking mask on yet. So I put the mask on, and it's fantastic. As everybody has seen, this mask is fantastic. Absolutely great. It fooled everyone. Everyone. But there was no practice kicks beforehand
Starting point is 00:14:40 because there was no time or place to do it. There was no time or place to do this. So I put the mask on. we walk out to the little thing i am no no more than 13 minutes after i put that mask on i am in front of 60 000 people right so we walk out with the cane the whole thing blue drew that skid up by the way incredible job by him he knew it was going to do well on the internet and has very thankful for blue and the colts asking me to do that so i get out there and they're like the first one you should definitely miss in the first one i toe poke it and i realized that when i look down with that mask the mask slides up so literally the mask which is on my face molded to my face anytime i look down all i don't know what that is what's silicone rubber it's like a rubbery yeah anytime i would look down it would push the mask up right so i look down for that
Starting point is 00:15:33 first one i realized oh i can't even see that fucking ball right there i kicked it i toe poked i couldn't even see it so now it's basically like a half blindfold like i can see the ball but then as soon as i look down it just gets blocked by the mask and then i have to kick it so like after the first one i'm like oh no we could have never accounted for this we could have never thought about this mask blinding me every single time so then the second one i go to kick and it was just like whenever i did the guinness world record blindfold thing it was just like i took a picture where where the ball was, and then I kicked it. And I was like, all right, good. And then we run back to the next one.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And at the 30-yard line, we had a little trouble there. Someone couldn't put a ball in the fucking tee. The tees weren't the best tees. I saw you get – the mask was on, but I could see you getting frustrated under the mask. Like, get the fuck out of the way. I'll put it on the tee. There was a lot of things happening,
Starting point is 00:16:22 but me not being able to see the balls was very interesting. could have never accounted for it make the 30 yarder make the 40 yarder finally and then the mask reveal the city was awesome it was just the stadium eruption by the way very very cool it was a cool pop by them but it was such a an incredibly cool day with the colts it was like really awesome to be back with them. It was just, it was fun. It was very fun. We did something really cool. The Ursae family and the Colts donated $70,000 to the IU Simon Health Cancer Research Center. If I wouldn't have made all three, they would have just donated $35,000, I believe. So it was pretty cool to be back there, but there's no way we could have accounted for the mask sliding up and me not being able to see it was an insane situation it was i was like oh fuck there's a lot of people watching right now and i can't see a damn thing but i was very very the internet loved it the
Starting point is 00:17:17 internet enjoyed it and then the anvil smack it was awesome undefeated whenever i hit the anvil beat the hell out of the bills let's keep it keep it moving. Get some Bills and the Browns, I saw. They're bringing you in for the heavyweights. Listen, I do some scouting. Hey, Pat, you want to hit the anvil? Who are we playing? Patriots. I'm out, dog. I'm out. Winners only, bro. Winners
Starting point is 00:17:37 only. It was a cool day, though. The guys here got a chance to go to the game, enjoyed a little bit. Yeah, thank you for that. Thank you to the Colts. That was a very nice atmosphere. The Colts gave us a sweet. To watch the Colts do well.
Starting point is 00:17:50 The Colts gave us a sweet. It was a little difficult because I'm on this keto diet. Uh-huh. So stadium food is tough. Yeah. There was a pizza sitting right there. The Colts supplied us with food and drink. Very, very nice.
Starting point is 00:18:02 And the Colts, it was a first class. I've never been treated that good by the Colts. It was first class. You walked in there, you just grabbed the hamburger patty, started eating it out of your hand. I was going to say, that's the only thing you could do. Hey, you're a savage. Have some respect. For who? For you guys? Yourself.
Starting point is 00:18:18 What are you talking about? Just grabbing meat, hunks of meat, and eating it out of your hand like an animal. He's a ketosis. He has to do that. Yeah, that's what ket. Yeah. What was that? Or fried mac and cheese bites. Pizza. Pizza or nachos dipped in cheese and chili. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It all looks so good, by the way. It was good, yeah. It was a beautiful day, though. Colts get a big win. Vinatieri doesn't get the record, but we raise a bunch of money. The internet seemed to love it. Oh, man. Just know that there was a lot of panic.
Starting point is 00:18:43 It was very similar to that panic that happened at IU Bloomington when I took two edibles. And it was like, these people have no clue how close this is to being a full fail moment. It was awesome, though. Very thankful for Blue and the Colts. Very, very thankful. I want to talk about something that happened this weekend.
Starting point is 00:19:03 What is it? This is a For the Brand announcement. Okay. For the Brand announcement. This is from a CFL article. And I actually wrote this. I wrote this out because I wanted to make sure I get all my thoughts clear.
Starting point is 00:19:20 So what you're hearing is me reading something that I wrote and my thoughts about it. Move over, Adam Vinatieri. Pro football has a new all-time place-kicking king is the first line of this CFL article about Lewis Ward making 45 consecutive field goals and passing Vinny's consecutive field goal record. It's very impressive, okay? Vinny's consecutive field goal record. It's very impressive.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Okay? Very, very impressive that Lewis Ward of the CFL has kicked 45 consecutive field goals. Very impressive. But that is very clearly a CFL record. Vinny has the NFL record. This is apple to oranges. Yes, kicking footballs through uprights is the constant, but the vastly different environments is what matters here.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Kicking is a head game, a mental battle between human and ball, and pressure is a real thing. We see it every single weekend. So although what Lewis Ward has done is impressive and warrants a potential shot in the NFL, in a situation where the punter kicks off for him because he's got a little bit of a baby leg, it is nowhere near kicking in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Billions of dollars being on the line. Avatars running four twos off of the edge. Millions of people watching. Not 10,000, not 2,000. Millions of people watching. It 10,000, not 2,000. Millions of people watching. It's just a very different animal entirely. At J.H. Gills tweeted me and said, it is very similar to when they said Ichiro beat Pete Rose's record for hits,
Starting point is 00:20:57 but they also included his Japanese league at bats. These are two different animals. I don't appreciate them coming at Adam Vinatieri on this first one. I'm a fan of the CFL because they follow me and all that. I almost unfollowed him, though, and told him to go fuck himself. Move over, Adam Vinatieri. Pro football has a new all-time place-kicking king. Like, yo, you better chill the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Lewis Ward, very impressive what he has been able to do. But in a game that revolves around pressure, you cannot compare what a cfl record is to an nfl record you can you just can't do that the fact that they even did that makes you want to make them not even a league anymore like cfl you're not even a league anymore because of the stupidity but i think what they were trying to do is get a little hype for their guy which i respect he was once a security guard for the stadium he's currently kicking in. Now he's kicking in there, has a record. But I just don't think it is anywhere near comparable.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I think it's impressive, but it is nowhere near what happens in the NFL. No, that was clearly a clickbait headline just to get people to even look at anything from the CFL. Exactly. What do they got? Let's assume that some Canadian stadiums are very windy. Some Canadian stadiums are very windy. Yes. Some Canadian stadiums are probably a nightmare to kick in.
Starting point is 00:22:11 They might have 7,000, 15,000 fans in the stands. Who knows? That's like a high school game in Texas. But to compare it to a game that is being broadcasted on national TV with millions of people watching, millions of dollars on the line, billions of dollars possibly on the line, 60,000, 70,000 people in the stadium alone. I just have no idea how they can even compare the two. And they are, by the way.
Starting point is 00:22:34 They are running with it. They are running with it very hard that he beat Adam Vinatieri's record. It's like, no, no, no. No, no, no. You did not. You have a CFL record. You don't have an NFL record. Did they double down in the article or was it just the headline oh yeah oh yeah they continued they're talking about how it because it
Starting point is 00:22:49 is impressive i would like it to be known yeah to be that consistent at your job no matter what your job is is impressive sure but to take a shot at vinit terry the fuck out of here i bet you the kicker's not happy they did that who lew Lewis Ward? Yeah. I bet you he is excited. You think he is? Yeah, absolutely. No, I think if you just know who you are, they should not have compared him to... Self-awareness. Yeah, self-awareness.
Starting point is 00:23:14 He used the word king. A king rules a kingdom. The guy's not in the NFL. Yeah, you're like president of your homeowners association. It's like comparing that to a king. You know what I mean? It's like you that to a king. You know what I mean? It's like you're in a different realm there. Maybe Lord.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I made contact on all my pitches in the Frontier League. Is there any MLB player that has made contact 100% of the times he's at bat? No, you're the hit king. That's true. So I'm a professional. In professional baseball, I have the highest percentage of contact with the ball. Best contact hitter of all time. Of all time. That's what it would be like
Starting point is 00:23:47 with the CFL thing. Yeah, I'm about done with their bullshit. I'm on follow. I did not appreciate it. I just wanted that to be, I had to get that out early. Good. Because I was not, CFL actually sent me that, sent me that to read. They DM'd it. They're like, here's something you might be interested in. And I read the first
Starting point is 00:24:03 line. I almost sent back. Why don't you just quit fucking Twitter? Why don't you not? I was not happy about it. And you're giving the guy respect as far as a kicker. That's an impressive feat. Very impressive feat. He had a 52-yarder, too, to seal the deal,
Starting point is 00:24:19 which was his first 50-yarder of the entire thing. That kind of says all of that. There's a lot of things I want to say. his first 50-yarder of the entire thing. So... That kind of says it all. There's a lot of things I want to say because Vinatieri hit like six 50-yarders in the first 20 because I was a part of that consecutive record, just for future reference. They sent me that message
Starting point is 00:24:34 just taking a shot at Vinatieri. He was like, you know, I was holding for that fucking... You know, I'm a part of that record, so you want to come at us. Let's not get crazy. Oh, wait, what? Your team might lose the fucking 45th Gray Bowl?
Starting point is 00:24:47 Nobody knows the fuck that is. Are the uprights wider in the CFL, too? I'm not sure. I'm really not sure. I have no idea. I enjoy watching CFL football because it's football on when NFL isn't on. So I understand the CFL thing. But it's like, come on, bro.
Starting point is 00:25:03 To act like you're even on the same level there. Let's please relax a little bit. Let's please pipe down. Speaking of piping down, there's a head coach for this Cleveland Browns team who needs to just shut the fuck up. Hysterical. Fourth overtime in seven games for the Cleveland Browns. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:18 They've technically played more football than anyone else this year. Yep. From all of us watching their training camp through Hard Knocks, I feel like we are a part of this team now, you know? We all have been forced to kind of have a little bit of a feeling towards this team. We have our favorites, but pulling for the Browns not to suck seems to be a common thing amongst all fans now.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Yeah, I would agree. After Hard Knocks, it kind of made them humans. It humanized them. We're all like, you know what we all want the dog pound to be a little bit happy we kind of like them from the hot gut to Baker Mayfield being electric they are a very
Starting point is 00:25:54 lovable team let's talk about the only thing in my eyes that hasn't been exactly lovable and that's Hugh Jackson's lack of self awareness it started in episode one of Hard Knocks when he said, I'm going to win here. I know it was something I mentioned at one point,
Starting point is 00:26:10 that that really stuck out. Because it was the first time I'd ever heard a coach use I instead of we. Because I think the coach is mostly the person who should be preaching that this is a we thing and not an I thing. So as soon as he said that, I knew that this was going to be an issue, but that's the Hugh Jackson difference. After this latest game, he said he wanted to take back control of the offense,
Starting point is 00:26:33 basically saying he wants to cuck Todd Haley. Although rumors on the street would say Todd would like that personally. Professionally, that is just a wild lack of self-awareness. Swinging Todd Haley's offense in in 2017 ranked eighth in the NFL. Hugh Jackson's 32nd. Dead last. Now, I know there are outliers.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Ben, A.B., Lev, Bell being just a few. But Todd was hired for a reason. To groom Baker into an incredible QB. A QB's first coach is huge in its development. B.A. was Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck's first quarterback coach. McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers. Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid. Jared Goff and McVay, you see what has happened there.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Tom and Belichick. And now Hugh wants to take away a brilliant offensive mind from Baker Mayfield, jeopardizing Baker's entire career because he's scared he's going to get fired from not being relevant with that browns team and also a complete lack of self-awareness hugh come the fuck on you're the only thing that is hateable in that entire bro the dog that runs through the office love him gm chewing gum obnoxiously. Love him. Brad Paisley making a terribly awkward appearance. Love it. Snoop Dogg.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Everything seems to be lovable for the Browns except for the head coach who has zero self-awareness. This is absurd. This is just absolutely absurd. You might forget that he was also calling the plays when they went 1-31. 0-16! 0-16. 1-15.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I'll give you every year that Hugh Jackson was a play caller in the team's record. 2003, Washington, 5-11. 2007, Atlanta, 4-12. Raiders in 2010 and 2011, 8-8 both years. 2014, Bengals is the first time with a winning record 10-5-1, they lose in the wild card.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Bengals in 2015, 12-4, losing the wild card. Then the Browns, 1-15 and 0-16. This guy, this guy, there's a lot of ability to point the fingers, right? You can start pointing fingers, but at some point, you know, there's three fingers pointing back. Like, oh, it's the team sucks. Yup. Oh, this sucks.
Starting point is 00:28:42 This sucks. Quarterback sucks, which is a big deal. This sucks. This sucks. But if you just is a big deal this sucks this sucks this but if you just have a trend of terrible like at some point you gotta have some self-awareness and be like yo this is my fault this is 100% my fault and now he wants to cuck Todd Haley Todd Haley has got them more ties than you Jackson ever got he's whenever he said I know I'm gonna win here he should just said I know I'm gonna tie win here, he should have just said, I know I'm going to tie here. Yeah, I mean, there's no credit given.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Maybe it's his superior play calling that's got them to the point they are from 0-16. To have two wins and to have been in every game. Todd Haley coached that Arizona team to a Super Bowl. Granted, they lost, but they were built entirely on offense. They had no defense on that team. Todd Haley is a wild character and we saw it in the hard knocks episode when hugh jackson said when you're sitting in that
Starting point is 00:29:29 chair i can see how you feel but when you're in this chair i'm in charge and todd haley he bowed down because that could have been a moment where todd haley goes like hey why don't you go fuck he could have but he didn't by the way he could have he didn't. I'm surprised he didn't. By the way, he could have. He didn't. He bowed down to that. And now, in return, Hugh Jackson's going to do this. Four overtimes games means there are four plays away from him, four more wins. Correct. That's all that means. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And I think if you listen to Cleveland Browns fans, they are so excited about the potential of this team after what they've had to suffer with Hugh Jackson's offense the last couple years. And now, just because a guy bangs a 59 yarder by the way Catanzaro after he missed a 36 or something like that how or maybe it was a 30 yarder I'm not sure it was in the 30s but he misses that he hits a 59 yard field goal there that's the only reason why Hugh Jackson's speaking there is because a roll of the dice hits and it's just absurd to me that hugh jackson has no clue no there's nobody on his team like yo shut the fuck up just sit there and just hope that you win a game and this will be
Starting point is 00:30:35 100 200 maybe 300 better than what you fucking done here i saw something else too that was like the second half of that game uh they had one of their best offensive halves of the year. Like only one punt, they had two touchdown drives, and I think a field goal drive. And apparently he is on very thin ice. Hugh is. He should be. As soon as he said that, he should have been fired.
Starting point is 00:30:55 He should have been like, listen, we've had about enough of you, bro. You're saying you want to go do more now? No, no, no, no, no. We're trying to make you do a lot less. Like get the fuck out of our city. That would be awesome if that happened. It's no secret that I was not the hugest fan of Todd Haley in Pittsburgh,
Starting point is 00:31:09 but he clearly has made the Cleveland Browns offense much better than it was with Hugh. And Hugh, as a Steelers fan, Hugh coming in to help with the offense? Super excited. Super excited for me. And as a head coach who is an offensive guy, and you say that now you're going to start helping with the offense, what the fuck have you been doing during the week?
Starting point is 00:31:26 Aren't you sitting in on offensive meetings and probably helping with the game plan? I hope not. Like, for Baker Mayfield's sake, I hope he's not helping at all. Like, I hope he's just out of there. It's just why this guy, this fucking guy. If Hugh gets fired, though, do you think Todd gets the job? Yes, for sure.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Todd or Greg. I mean, they've both been head coaches. Todd Haley would be the head coach over greg williams strictly with the the way it would look if greg williams was to be hired and i i'm excited for the todd haley being the head coach of a team again i mean i like i do like todd as a head coach do you think when todd sits down he drops that same line you guys are in those seats and i'm rising i mean they're definitely dogging you the first like three weeks doesn't have meetings in the facility. You go out in the parking lot and you huddle around his Camaro.
Starting point is 00:32:10 You're fucking ripping Marlboro Reds, flicking them on other guys' cars. Dude, he's the best. He's the best. But the thought that Hugh Jackson thinks he's the answer, because that's what he was saying. Yeah, pretty much. Hugh Jackson is saying that I'm the answer. This is Hugh Jackson being an I guy, not a we guy again.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Because even if you are going to start doing that, why are you announcing it at a press conference? No. This is just like Hugh Jackson not getting told information because he was leaking it to the media last year. They were scared to tell him things because he was the snitch to the media. It's just like, what the fuck are you doing? I mean, teams have done this before.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Like, Ty, hasn't McCarthy gone back and forth playing calls a bunch of times? Yeah, he does it like almost every year it seems like. But yeah, he does do it a lot. He'll relinquish play calling at the start of the year and then like by week eight or week nine he wants to do it again. So, we'll see. But I'm sure it's not something he publicly... Correct, that's what I'm saying. He's never done it.
Starting point is 00:32:59 He's never thrown the coordinator under the bus. No, definitely not. He doesn't go, you know, Todd Haley doesn't have much of a the bus. No, definitely not. He doesn't go, you know, Todd Haley. Doesn't have much of a track record. I do, though. Which is a wild statement since he has a better head coaching record than Hugh. This dude is the worst. I came around on him.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Nope, you called it episode one and you should have stuck to that. I know, I came around on Hugh Jack City, which is a rap song if you want to listen to it. I came around on him and I should have known that when bullets start flying, guys that say i instead of we will throw people under the bus every single time that's the way i guys are he's just trying to buy another week to save his job you know just like the jaguars bro they're a bunch of guys down there throwing everybody under the bus man jaylen ramsey said to the media you guys walk in here you see what's going on here between
Starting point is 00:33:42 each other and the coaches it's's like, we don't. Can you tell us? Because he kept saying, you can see it. It's obvious what's happening. It's like, are you guys fighting with each other or the coaches? Who's fighting who? Like, what's going on? I think that Jacksonville Jaguars locker room has become just a nightmare, just like what
Starting point is 00:34:00 would happen in Seattle. This seems to be the same thing that happens, right? Seattle's defense was their thing. Their thing. Legion of Boom led them to success. Jacksonville Jaguars' defense led them to success. You pay Russell Wilson, you pay Blake Bortles $18 million. Blake Bortles is getting $18 million.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Russell Wilson probably in that same area there. Then the defense sees that and they're like, you're paying this motherfucker more than us and we are the reason we're here. And then all of a sudden, when you're supposed to keep business out of it when you're supposed to keep business out of it, you're supposed to keep business out of it, business starts lurking in, especially whenever you've got a lot of big personalities in there,
Starting point is 00:34:32 and it's only a matter of time before all shit hits the fan. And that's what happens. It makes sense, because it can't just be as good as Leonard Fournette is. It can't just be that Leonard Fournette's gone, that they've unraveled to this extent. So it has to be more shit like was a reason why people didn't believe in the Jaguars last year, and it's always been Blake Bortles. Like, Blake Bortles, early in his career, got a great stats
Starting point is 00:34:52 because they were always behind late in games and they were throwing late in the games. And there was some point where he stopped knowing how to throw. Like, I don't know what happened. But then it came back, and then it left again. Yeah, but then you could also tell they didn't trust him last year because during the playoffs, you could tell they don't trust him. Bro, that Patriots game.
Starting point is 00:35:08 The kneel down. Yeah. They could have either traded for Teddy or got Teddy before the season for $3. Jets literally got Teddy for $3. Yeah. You know what name's floating out there? Who?
Starting point is 00:35:21 Colin Kaepernick. Colin Kaepernick is still out there. You put him running quarterback with the Jaguars with a good defense. Even though their defense is getting torn apart, by the way. Yes. They keep talking. Another 100-yard rusher. They keep talking shit on me.
Starting point is 00:35:34 That defense hates each other, too. I don't know how that happens. That defense hates each other, it seems like. It's a lot of egos. A lot of egos. And when you're playing together, those egos are fine. When you're winning. Yes. That's what I meant. Everybody makes fun of front makes fun of front runners they're like oh he's a front
Starting point is 00:35:48 runner he's a front runner that means he wins a lot that's what that means that person the front runner they win a lot but it does it is a real thing whenever front runners people who are used to succeeding start failing you learn a lot about people and that jaguars team is failing quickly hate to see it you hate to see it. I hate to see it with all those loyal fans for years and years and years that are real chirpy when they're winning. You are real chirpy. Real chirpy, that fucking fan base when they're winning. They're going to end up in England.
Starting point is 00:36:14 They've been fans for a long time. They're going to end up in England somehow. Tom Coughlin's going to probably reboot that whole team. That team's going to start back at zero, and those fans are like, we were back for a fucking year. We were back for just a second fans were like we were back for a fucking year we were back for just a second and now we're we suck again my sources rumors oh they're just they just floated out to me you know just a little floater floater tom might bring eli down oh boy that'll help that
Starting point is 00:36:38 it's terrible smooth everything right eli's so bad why is he so bad because he's so old that's what it is he's lost anything that he had in his arm is gone. Well, and he's not mobile at all. And their line is just so bad. So there's self-awareness, right? Mm-hmm. How come Eli didn't just realize that it's done? How come Eli hasn't just realized that the time has come?
Starting point is 00:36:57 I just imagine he's probably so competitive, he probably can't admit that to himself. And you know why? Do you think? Really? Checks don't bounce. Checks don't bounce, guys. Especially after seeing what Peyton did. Yeah. To come back after that injury and just, you know why? Do you think? Really? Checks don't bounce. Checks don't bounce, guys. Especially after seeing what Peyton did.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yeah. To come back after that injury and just, you know, pull a few more years out and play at that high level, I think he probably sees that and he's like, I think I can do it. I think Peyton played one more year too long, too. Yeah. Last year there was a lot of handoff. A lot of handoff.
Starting point is 00:37:18 A lot of handoff. That defense won that Super Bowl for them. A lot of handing off. Which, by the way, you can call a guy a system QB or you can just say whatever's successful. That was Bowl for them. A lot of handing off. Which, by the way, you can call a guy a system QB or you can just say whatever is successful. That was successful for them. For Eli, they still got him doing shit that was like 10 years ago. It's like, yo, Eli can't do
Starting point is 00:37:31 that anymore. But if they do anything against Eli, they have the entire PR, the Manning PR firm against them. When Geno Smith went in for Eli last year, you would have thought, you would have fucking thought that Aaron Rodgers was getting benched for geno smith you would have thought that tom brady was getting benched for geno smith
Starting point is 00:37:52 the way the world acted was insane it was absolutely now is geno smith the answer i don't think so but people were just the the pr around eli manning still is so strong he's top 10 in completion percentage right now because they literally don't throw anything over like 10 yards because they can't. A lot of dink and dump success, though, in the NFL if you really need it. But it is tough to watch Eli. It's tough to watch.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Whenever he retires and leaves, Eli was a great quarterback. You'll forget about these shitty years, but it's almost at the point now where you're like, come on. I want to see what Saquon can do with a – When there's not 12 people in the box? Yes, with an engine, you know, with an absolute engine in there, possibly cooking up some real success for them. I am a big Saquon Barkley fan.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Dude, that game on Thursday night against the Eagles, he literally tried putting the entire team on his back. You know who doesn't get enough credit? And this is probably every person that's doing take's take right now. Kareem Hunt is unbelievable. I forget about how good he is because of all the other weapons. He's a beast. He is barbecue chicken, bro.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Barbecue chicken, bro. He is so good. That New England coming out party he had last year where he had a fumble on his first touch, and then they put him back in. I was like, oh, this guy must be the truth. If as a rookie, his first touch he's fumbling and then they're feeding him again
Starting point is 00:39:09 and he was and it's kind of like he's been lost in the shuffle because they have so many weapons. Mahomes has learned he can run too, by the way, which is not good. Chris Collinsworth was like, whenever he ran for a first down one time and then slid, perfect baseball slide, by the way. He had a perfect slide. He played baseball? Oh my God. And basketball and basketball by the way get this nfl player plays other sports
Starting point is 00:39:30 crazy fucking crazy but chris collinsworth was like i just heard 70 000 people here at arrow arrowhead scream get down or something i was like no you didn't just pick up 12 yards with nobody around him like this is what makes this is what what will take Patrick Mahomes to the next level. That offense, though, is beautiful. I'm scared Andy Reid is wasting all of his plays. I don't know because Andy's got that – it looks like they're doing a lot, but they're doing that very simple college offense where they literally have four options every play,
Starting point is 00:39:59 and that's what Patrick Mahomes did at Texas Tech, and he's just so good at it because that's what he did already. It's almost unstoppable because he reads the run, and then if the linebackers go, he'll pull it and look for the slant behind. And if not, they'll always have that fucking flare to like Tyree Kill over here. Now listen, as a guy who was once a scout team quarterback in a college that ran very much RPO offense, you read the end. You read the end to see what the end does crashes down but whenever you have five people running four twos on the same team you can't
Starting point is 00:40:32 just read the defense can't just read everything it's it's it's unfair the only way that offense gets stopped unless they're playing the patriots and somehow the Patriots do what the Patriots does somehow whatever the Patriots do they do it and it seems unstoppable it really seems unstoppable the only way you beat it is penetration so that's why the LA Rams game on Monday night in Mexico City I watched this with WVU with Pat White any team that could get penetration on our line was we're fucked because it just completely disrupts everything aaron donald and indomitian sue potentially getting penetration on that line early is the only way to stop this type of offense and this is just no granted there's probably other ways but me just watching four years of success and pat white probably one of the best to do it in college in the history of
Starting point is 00:41:20 college doing it it was whenever we would get beat is when they got penetration on our line and that's why the la rams are potential kind of stumpers for uh the kansas city chiefs aaron donald's getting hot too he had uh four sacks on sunday and then he just ripped us the fumble out of like it wasn't even i don't even know what happened he's aaron donald's unbelievable he started he's swagged too i guess aq says he talks shit aq says once aaron donald starts getting comfortable and he knows you have no chance, he said he'll talk shit. I was like, I love... He's from Penn Hills.
Starting point is 00:41:51 AQ knows that strictly because AQ is the center. Him and AQ, I guess AQ says he and Aaron Donald get along. But he's watched plenty of his guards let Aaron Donald get confident and then just has to listen to it before the snap. AQ's lined up, bent over for the snap, and he's Aaron Donald telling his guard, like, oh, you about to get this, because AQ's like, oh, should we shift? We should probably shift.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Sorry about your luck, Bob. See you later. The Chiefs are going to be very, very – I realized this last night. The Chiefs are going to be very, very hard to beat at home, too, because their liability is their defense. But with 70,000 people in the loudest stadium in the NFL, Dee Ford and Justin Houston are just going to own tackles getting off the ball. Loud.
Starting point is 00:42:35 That Sweet Caroline thing, Al Michaels and Chris Collins were spoke right over top of it. I'm like, if I'm learning anything from watching the WWE people, when the crowd gets going, you hear Michael Cole yelling at the commentators, like, shut the fuck up. Like, literally, let's let the crowd eat here because the crowd is a part of it. With the NFL, you don't normally get that. You don't normally – college, there's an atmosphere, right?
Starting point is 00:42:56 You can get chants and sings. In the NFL, you don't normally get the – Lucasville Stadium, I forgot how quiet that place was. That place is so quiet. It is. So, so quiet. That's what we said too. We were walking around the outside before we came in, and I couldn't believe the atmosphere outside was
Starting point is 00:43:10 so tame and mild and just like it was like a nice Sunday morning. Who's your hospitality? Yeah, I'm used to walking into a stadium like drums banging, people screaming, like music blasting. Threatening murder. Yeah, yeah. People are nicer. Greatest city on earth.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Our fans start to cheer loud when we're on defense, and they're like, oh, shit. Quarterback's probably having a hard time hearing you. Sorry. We don't want you to leave here with any bad feelings. We got you working, sir. But they were singing Sweet Caroline. The entire place was singing Sweet Caroline,
Starting point is 00:43:43 and they just spoke right over top of it I'm like what are you this doesn't happen in the NFL often this is very much a college thing and you guys are just talking right over let that thing eat a little bit the game was already over anyways it was unbelievable
Starting point is 00:43:55 Green Bay and Arrowhead very college like atmospheres in the NFL Seattle didn't get any respect in that conversation last night and I've never played at Seattle never in my life have I played at Seattle I've played at Houston whenever the game was really on. Houston was the loudest stadium I've ever played in.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Played in Arrowhead. That was when they had Brady Quinn playing quarterback, though. The fans were just waiting to boo Brady Quinn. That's all they were doing. They were there for one reason, one reason only. It was the last game of the season. Bruce Arians was our coach. It was negative something.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I busted my ass in warm-ups because the field was actually an ice skating rink. So I went out to punt. And the first punt I tried in warm-ups, I just fell flat on my ass. It was a bad situation. Bruce Arians, his halftime speech was, it's cold as fuck. Let's get a win and get the fuck out of here. It was literally his halftime speech. We got a win.
Starting point is 00:44:43 But I was so excited to be there because it's like the allure of arrowhead is awesome which it is by the way cool shape too it's awesome dude it is absolutely awesome but those fans were just waiting for brady quinn to fuck up they were just waiting and waiting and then he threw a pick six in like the second quarter of first quarter in the place he erupted in like like sarc Like, yeah! That was back when their defense was incredible. They had like 10 pro bowlers on defense, and on offense, they couldn't do a single thing. They couldn't do a single thing on offense.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Now they bring in Andy Reid, it's almost like it's completely opposite. And I enjoy that Arrowhead placement. Man, that Sweet Caroline was a great moment that they just talked right over. I like Al Michaels. I think he's very talented. I like Chris Collinsworth, too. He's a bit negative I think he's very talented. I like Chris Collinsworth, too.
Starting point is 00:45:25 He's a bit negative. He's a bit negative. I like Chris Collinsworth, but boy, they blew that moment, I thought. Andy Reid took the under last night. You see that? Yeah, see, a lot of people were talking about how he didn't kick that field goal there or whatever. That's like a respect thing, though. That's like a karma thing.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Whenever you do that, I think the coaches feel as if it's karma. If I bury this team whenever it's already over, that's going to come back and get me at some point. So I think that's what it is. Cream Hunt was about a yard away, though, from picking it up. Or where? I think it was where or Cream Hunt? Yeah, I think it was where.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Yeah, they were a yard away from picking that up. It's like you pick up the first down. It's okay seeing them getting buried. Really? Not the Ravens. The Bengals have been exposed for who they are. They're dog shit now. I don okay seeing them getting buried. Really? The Ravens, or not the Ravens, the Bengals have been exposed for who they are. They're dog shit now. I don't have to worry about those.
Starting point is 00:46:09 The fucking Browns, they got that mess going on and the Ravens got lost to the New Orleans. It was a great day for the old first place, first place AFC North Division lead, the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh Steelers, Lev Bell still not there. Some would say as a player, not smart for him. He said he was going to do something, didn't come back for it. That's not there. Some would say, as a player, not smart for him. He said he was going to do something, didn't come back for it.
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Starting point is 00:48:08 I believe there's like 10 seconds left in the game. All they have to do is hit the extra point and it goes to overtime. They have Justin Tucker. Automatic. Mr. Automatic. The most accurate field goal kicker of all time in the NFL, Justin Tucker. He has hit 222 regular
Starting point is 00:48:24 season extra points in a row, 316 straight extra points if you count playoffs and college, 112 out of 112 since the field goal or the extra point has been moved back. Nobody else in the league has been that. No one else in the league has been even close to that. Nobody in the league has been as tried and true and pure as Justin Tucker since Justin Tucker got into the NFL.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Especially not some CFL. All he's going to do is hit the extra point. The Ravens and the Saints go to overtime to battle it out. But no, not so fast, my friends. Why not, though? Why not? Well, because it's Drew Brees and the NFL is rigged for Drew Brees. I think you all have realized that I've brought up all these brilliant points about this.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Drew Brees, in the game that he throws his 500th touchdown, you think the Ravens are going to beat him in that game? I don't think so. You think the Ravens are going to beat Drew Brees when the Ravens are the only team that Drew Brees has never beaten? I don't think so. Not Drew Brees and his dumb baby. Not Drew Brees and his dumb baby.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Also, if you watch the video the extra point Justin Tucker is very shocked it didn't go in because it started off right down the middle and then
Starting point is 00:49:31 just somehow tailed 30 feet to the right yeah it's God God likes Drew Brees oh
Starting point is 00:49:38 oh you think God is ready I agree that Drew Brees is getting some help Austin Colley's God which God I'm gonna say Zeus yeah I agree that Drew Brees is getting some help. Austin Colley's God? Which God? I'm going to say Zeus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Maybe Zeus. I'd just say it was fucking, I don't know. Because it's a weather thing. Could it be the Holden? Well, the NFL, it might not be the NFL because the NFL, if it was smart enough, which sometimes they're not, could have easily just had Flacco throw an interception on the last drive and people are like, oh, that's just Joe Flacco. Or some weird flag. Instead, they're going to have this. LOL Flacco throw an interception on the last drive and people are like, oh, that's just Joe Flacco. Or some weird flag.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Instead, they're going to have this. LOL Flacco. Yeah. Instead, they're going to have Justin Tucker miss an extra point. It's like, hey, you're giving it away now. Yeah, yeah. You're getting cocky. Yeah, you're getting a little cocky.
Starting point is 00:50:14 You think we're just going to let anything fly by your little Drew Brees thing? No, no. Justin Tucker? You think Justin Tucker, the guy who hits the ball the most pure out of any? These fucking announcers, by the way. These announcers talking about it. I want to just crawl through the TV and slap them. I just want to slap them with how stupid they are.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I can't fathom how stupid these people are that commentate on games. They're like, well, Justin Tucker's known for dancing with the uprights. It's like, no. That is not what Justin Tucker's known for. Down the middle every single fucking time. Every single fucking time. Right behind the uprights. It's like, no, Justin, that is not what Justin Tucker's known for. Down the middle every single fucking time. Every single fucking time, right behind the uprights. There's normally a stairwell
Starting point is 00:50:50 that goes right up the, there's like a staircase that goes up in a stadium. Normally, if you watch, Justin Tucker's ball falls right down the middle of that every single time. And this ball started that way.
Starting point is 00:51:01 It started that way. And then she just kicked out to the right. I ain't never seen. Now, normally when you hit a ball fat. Okay, let's take you to the driving range. Whenever you hit a slice, you go outside in. You get a little side spin. The ball comes.
Starting point is 00:51:16 In football, if you hit it fat with a soccer-style kick, you're coming boom. You're hitting it fat. You're kind of going inside out or outside in just like a slicing golf. But normally for that to happen, it has to go way left and then it comes back. That one seemed to go straight and then just tail off. It didn't make
Starting point is 00:51:35 much sense to me how that ball happened. Also, his face after, which is now the greatest gift I'm going to use probably every single day of my life. He looks like he's I put it into my spank bank for a long time. You got a mass spank to Justin Tucker's face. Yeah. Yeah, I don't care. Respect.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Because not only did we predict this because of the Saints or Drew Brees, the Ravens being the only team that he needs to beat. Yep. But also, the Steelers are in first in the AFC. Yeah, yeah. So both of them are good for you. But it did seem...
Starting point is 00:52:01 And they were also lined up right of center too, by the way. So the Ravens were lined up right of center, and the wind seemed to be blowing left to right. So I didn't fully understand the move. Whenever we had a little wind in the stadium, if it was hard left to right, we would line up left to center so that Vinny could kick it straight and they would have a little bit more room to drift. There's a lot of thoughts going on.
Starting point is 00:52:22 You can lean a ball differently if the wind's blowing left to right. You can stand it up a little bit more so that it will fight the wind a little bit more you can pull it towards you for a right footed kicker if the wind's going right to left so it'll battle through the wind a little bit there's a lot of things you can do but that ball looked pure to me and then it just turned at the last second and that's a nightmare situation for justin tucker because you literally have no idea why you You have no idea why that happened. So he's probably never going to make a kick again, right? As I said. I hope it doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:52:49 This is the type of thing, though. That'd be a shame. Justin Tucker has proved that he has great mental wherewithal or whatever. Is that the right word? That works. Mental toughness. Look at me. He has good mental toughness.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Oh. There it is. He seems to have that, and he has a good swagger, and he stepped up to the press conference, by the way, afterwards and took it right on the chin, which is awesome. But that is the type of kick, though, that could make you overthink your next one, and then it's fuck, fuck, fuck. But he's Justin Tucker.
Starting point is 00:53:15 That was wild to me. I have breaking news for a team that also missed a kick to go to overtime. Okay. Dallas Cowboys? Yep. Traded for Amari Cooper. Amari Cooper's going to be a Dallas Cowboy. Oh, ACDC no more, huh?
Starting point is 00:53:29 Wasn't that a thing there for a while? Yep. So John Gruden's dumping the team right now? Is that what's happening? I mean, I called this last week on Quick Hits. When Gruden was on, I said, hey, you're getting rid of all of your best players so you could get draft picks for these upcoming years.
Starting point is 00:53:42 So when you leave Oakland, Oakland isn't going to be that sad because you guys are going to be fucking terrible. But then going into Vegas, you're going to have all these draft picks. New city, new toy. Cap space. Yep, everything's going to go in, and then you're going to win, and you're going to be a hero. That's surprising, but it's not that surprising, right?
Starting point is 00:53:56 Because Gruden has no allegiance to him. It's not one of his guys. You've said this before. When Grease and Kevin, new GMs come in, they want their guys. Yep, their guys. Now, granted, Amari Cooper, hell of a football player. Well, and I did read that he has the same agent as Khalil Mack, and Gruden is trying to get rid of all those guys.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I think Carl Joseph's on there, too, and they're trying to get rid of him as well. Yeah, so you think he's just trying to clean out. I can't wait to see how much Amari Cooper signs for in Dallas if he's Khalil Mack's agent. He's about to get 90 million, man. He was so good his first two years, and then he's fallen off.
Starting point is 00:54:29 I can't tell if he's good or not anymore. I assume he is. Amari Cooper? Yeah. Everything revolves, when you're a wide receiver, around. The guy throwing you the football. Let's remember back whenever Amari Cooper was really good. Guess who else was really good?
Starting point is 00:54:41 Derek Carr was un-fucking-believable. So ACDC became a thing that everybody talked about. There was hope in the Bay Area, everything, and now it's all gone to shit. That penalty against... Oh, the snapping penalty. He snapped me in the Pro Bowl, that guy. Great snapper.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Unbelievable real estate guy down there, too. He's got a bunch of commercial real estate in Dallas. That snapper is loaded. He is fucking loaded. Next level commercial real estate selling malls, I think loaded. He just does long snapping as a thing. He's been there for like 12 years, 11 years. He's an incredible long snapper, really good guy. That call on him is fucking outrageous. So the calls on the long snappers for moving the ball, it's like holding on an offensive line. outrageous so the calls on the long snappers for moving the ball it's like holding on an offensive lineman you can call it anytime you want anytime you want to call it you can call it but it's just
Starting point is 00:55:30 whether or not the ref wants to be an asshole that's kind of the way it is just like walt in england called me for uh whenever i got somebody to jump off sides instead of calling it on the d lineman he called it on me just because he's a fucking prick that's kind of the way the refs are it's like they they pick and choose they want to blame it on the defense or they want to blame it on the long snapper it's positionism that's exactly what it is it's positionism he attacked that long snapper and they called on him instead of the d lineman that jumped outside like a fucking idiot in a huge moment it was it's i can't believe they called that you got video where they showed the one earlier and then the one immediately after it,
Starting point is 00:56:05 and there's no discernible difference whatsoever between the three that show. They could call it any time, literally any time. And the ref has that conversation with the long snapper almost before every single game. So this long snapper's been having this conversation with these refs for 12 years now. Hey, this is what I do before the snap.
Starting point is 00:56:20 This is my mechanics, because every snapper's different. Overton liked to elongate his arm so he was further out so to do that you have to move the ball and then you have to extend it out and it's like hey this is my move basically you're telling the ref this is my move this is what i do every time the ref goes okay good just don't change it from that so that guy did the same exact thing he always does and rodney harrison on the fucking football night in america was like that was a good call shut the fuck up hey rodney you have no fucking idea what you're talking about rodney harrison when i come i think rodney harrison's a really good football mind really
Starting point is 00:56:52 good football mind but when it came to this it's like why are you even talking why are you even talking and then tony dungy fuck i wish i would have wrote it down he said something that just completely contradicted everything he's ever done. Everything he's ever done, I'll think of it. Those two were really on one this week where I wanted to climb through my TV and slap them both. Do you think in that instance that it was because of the moment that it was magnified?
Starting point is 00:57:16 Like you say that's something that could be called every play. And a lot of those plays are extra points or the field goals. They're probably very routine, I feel like. But do you think with the score in that situation, the refs were looking closely and they were more dialed in, and maybe it jumped out to them more than it did in any other instance? So this is just what it's like whenever you give the refs that leeway to make judgment calls.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Because in huge moments, refs are humans too. The refs are humans too. So when the shot's to the head, they're like, oh, it's a judgment call. You're giving them a lot of leeway to be like, oh, in my head, it's just like forward progress was stopped. That's their kind of trump card for everything. They're like, oh, I called forward progress being stopped if a fumble happens late.
Starting point is 00:57:54 They end all conversation. That's the same thing they can do with, oh, it was my judgment that that happened. That's like the trump card end all be all thing. I don't know. I just don't enjoy the thought of judgment playing with humans. I just don't enjoy it. To that point with humans i just don't enjoy that point i was listening to rex ryan this morning and to your point he said it was probably something that the redskins coaches brought up with the referees before the game to watch and then once again right before that snap so then maybe if they saw it even though the snapper went over with the rest before the game it was something that they they thought
Starting point is 00:58:23 they had to call if they jumped off sides that guy's been snapping the same way went over it with the rest before the game. It was something that they thought they had to call if they jumped off sides. That guy's been snapping the same way for over a decade, though. That is the wild thing to me. It's like every snapper has their routine. It's like a golf. Sergio Garcia, what, he does like 45 fucking pumps. It's the same thing whenever it comes to snappers. They all have their same fucking routine.
Starting point is 00:58:41 By the way, the biggest mental, I don't want to say little people, but what's that word instead of little person? Smaller person. No, the other word. What's the word that starts with an M? Zito. I don't know. Slipping your mind?
Starting point is 00:58:55 I just forgot it, yeah. Pass the test. Mental little people are the long snappers because their job is so minute, so minute. That's the word. That was not it. but it was close because they are their job is their upside down quarterback that has to make a 14 yard pass or an eight yard pass and it has to be perfect every single time so it just becomes like a golfer with their routine and they just
Starting point is 00:59:19 get locked in these routines and locked in it over a decade that guy's been snapping like that and on a game winner you're gonna back it up to a 52 yarder it's just like you're so you you're so dumb you really are so dumb i can't let's not let this play overshadow how big of a fucking bitch jason garrett is all the time you hate him so much he's the absolute worst he's getting he's getting crushed today for good reason. Thank God. Why? Well, because they had like 12 seconds left and one timeout. And instead of like every other team in the league would probably either, I don't know, maybe throw a five-yard out,
Starting point is 00:59:56 try to get 10 yards over the middle, get down real quick and call a timeout. He fucking ran a play with Zeke just to center the ball for the 47-yard line. So let me tell you why this is. This is a cover-your-ass situation. This happened at the Colts a few times with Vinatieri. We give them a line. Say, hey, our line today is the 38-yard line. So a 56-yarder is where we're at.
Starting point is 01:00:18 The offensive coordinator hears that. They think, okay, we need to just get to the 37 then. So they've done their job. Basically, it's like, yo, we've done our job we have done everything we you told us to get to 38 you'll take it from there and all we would ever say is like yeah but a 37 yarder is a lot easier if we would do that but all the coaches think about is covering their own ass we were told that the line was to get it to here we got it to there he didn't do his job that is 100 what that is for so i can see how you think garrett took a coward way out because he did he
Starting point is 01:00:50 did he did that is a instead of picking up more yards he was just basically like the kicker told us where he wanted to get to and we got there it's his job for not making it which is true by the way the kid had enough leg for that oh yeah that ball hit that post that dong shot was pretty hard that thing's good from 60 plus good for that kid but man it's just it is a situation though that i see often it's not every other coach does that by the way there's a lot of not every other coach goes tries to get more yard for the kickers a lot of coaches also just cover their own ass like hey we were told to get to the 38 we got to the 38 that's what we did well this is just on top of him not going for a fourth and one
Starting point is 01:01:26 in overtime on the Potens 40 two weeks ago against Houston. Speaking of a guy going for it and rolling the dice and it backfired this time, Vrabel. Everybody's talking about him going for two here in London, which I love, by the way. I'm a big fan of this move. I am a big fan of this move. Overtime in London.
Starting point is 01:01:44 We're already miserable. Let's get back to fucking America. Let's give these people game two. They were being outplayed too. So it's like, let's end this. Let's not take it to fucking London. Roll the dice here. One play.
Starting point is 01:01:53 We can steal this game. We can steal this game right now and make it happen. I enjoy it. A couple weeks ago, they had a 50-yarder in overtime for Ryan Suckup, who's one of the most consistent. It was fourth and four, fourth and one or something like that in overtime. Vrabel goes for it. They make it.
Starting point is 01:02:07 They score a touchdown. They win. Vrabel's a hero. He's a legend because he trusted his team, blah, blah, blah. Now he goes for it for two. He doesn't get it. And there's some people that bash him for it. This is what a young coach will learn.
Starting point is 01:02:20 It's like, oh, two weeks ago, he was a legend for this. This week, he's not in your eyes. I love it. I love the way Vrabel coaches, by the way. He's got boxing gloves on. He's like, yo, two weeks ago he was a legend for this. This week he's not in your eyes. I love it. I love the way Vrabel coaches, by the way. He's got boxing gloves on. He's fucking in there. He wants to win. I like the way Vrabel coaches are. I like him a lot. If that's who you are and you're going to do it every time, go for it. Yesterday, Sean Payton went for it five times on
Starting point is 01:02:37 fourth down. If that's what you're going to do and that's always what you're going to do, be true to who you are. I don't know if I want my coach to always do it, but if you're feeling like our defense is really crushing today, I have a lot of confidence going into overtime. Or you have no confidence in your defense. Now you have no confidence.
Starting point is 01:02:55 It's one way or the other. It's one way or the other, you know? It's just a very – because Frank Reich went for it, right? He went for it. They throw the ball low, skip the ball low. Houston Texans get a win. Overtime, bing, bing, boom. Everything is a hindsight legend or idiot decision in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Every trick play, every decision is a hindsight judgment decision. If it works, you're a genius. If it doesn't, you're the fucking worst. You shouldn't be in the NFL. Well, nobody went for it more on fourth last year than Doug Peterson. Like, it's, I guess, it like do you have the balls because the – they always say the analytics, blah, blah, blah. Actually, you should actually go for it on fourth more often than they do.
Starting point is 01:03:33 It's just coaches are fearful for their job. Well, field position. Yeah. Field position is a big determiner of who wins the game. It is. And as soon as you see all these stats right it can kind of scare you it's like gruden said they have all these stats they don't know what to do with them basically it is true because you have these stats like if we win the field position we're going to win 82 percent of
Starting point is 01:03:53 their time if we in field position if we do this we're going to win blah blah blah so now you have these stats in your head and you're like well they say if we win the field position a majority of the time we're going to win so why would we risk giving it up at 39 right now which completely fucks it up and go for it it's like almost ignorance is bliss knowing too much can also screw you it seems like that is the case i love frabel though i like i guarantee the players love him yeah he looks like that kind of guy i love frabel man i don't know if i'd want to play for him to be honest seems like a bit of a hard ass probably yelling at people a lot i'd assume but he seems like he's going to be a coach that wins you know what i mean marcus mariotta
Starting point is 01:04:35 mariotta isn't a i mean let's look he's not a world beater he's average he's he's not a guy there we go there is a guy that i don't think his second contract, he should make more than fucking $6 million, $5 million. Now, that's no offense to Marcus. I just think that there's a chance they can roll the dice and pick up maybe a Patrick Mahomes coming up. You know what I mean? And I think they should build the team instead of the quarterback. Marcus is a great quarterback and can get the job done,
Starting point is 01:04:59 but I like what Vrabel's doing down there in Nashville. They need it, by the way. That team needs it. They don't deserve it. They're always so close to being almost good. Every year we play them. Every year we played them. It was like, this is the year the Titans are going to be good.
Starting point is 01:05:11 This is the year the Titans are going to be good. And then we get down there and our team's shit and we win. It's like, oh, I don't know what's going on. It is. It's a very weird division. Houston, Deshaun Watson rides on a bus all the way to the game, picks up a win. They've won four in a row, haven't they?
Starting point is 01:05:25 Yeah, they've started 0-3. J.J. Watt, with one of the most relatable things I've ever heard him say, said he wished he could hop into Deshaun Watson's bus, get some cold beer, and ride back with him. I love that. That was the most relatable J.J. Watt thing I've ever heard. How about him playing in an NFL game
Starting point is 01:05:37 after having his lungs clapped and bruised now that it's too bad of an injury to fly, but he can play in an NFL game? Yeah, it's crazy to me. They're like, you know what? He can't fly. That would be scary. But we can definitely put him out there with potential 400 pounds.
Starting point is 01:05:52 400 pounds of humans crashing down on him. Yeah, we'll put him on a bus. That'll be good. Are you going to have that bus around him on the field, dude? What are we going to do with that? There's one thing in life you don't mess with is cabin pressure. You never mess with the cabin pressure. You know, it's interesting because they have all those ways to beat.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I thought that Adrid was coming. He was shuffling papers everywhere I said that. The plane, though, is something that people do have to battle against when it comes to medical. It's very interesting to watch guys who are hurt before getting on a plane on an away game. I've never been a part of the conversation, but there's always a very long conversation with the trainer like hey you have to put these pants on you have
Starting point is 01:06:28 to wear these tights as soon as we get off we have to do this we have to do that because the the altitude i guess is what kind of fucks with your i guess there's a lot of swelling that happens like if you have high blood pressure you're not supposed to be on a plane really yeah it'll mess you up is it because the are you this is a z fact? This might be a little bit of a Zito fact, but I'm pretty sure I've heard it before. I'm not going to argue it. It sounds right. It's an altitude, blood pressure. It's like that with roller coasters, too.
Starting point is 01:06:54 You're not supposed to get on a roller coaster if you have high blood pressure, right? Or pregnant. Those are all the Gs. Is that because you could potentially get scared and die? I think it's just precautionary. Why even take a chance? I don't like the planes, but they're of a necessity yeah in this world we live in how about the sean watson just in his own bus by the way that had to be a great time you rode with
Starting point is 01:07:14 that would be cool and we had a great time that's like everybody love everybody 14 more hours it's not a short drive it was 10 said. Yeah, but those buses are comfortable. It's not like he was on a bus like we ride on. You don't think he was in a conversion van? No. I think he was in a luxury. Imagine if he was driving like he drove. I got a pips break.
Starting point is 01:07:37 JJ, you need anything? Stopping a gas station. I bet you he stopped at a gas station. For sure, yeah. I bet you he stopped at a gas station. Give me some beef jerky, please. Like in the middle of Louisiana, just stopping at the gas station. For sure, yeah. I bet you they stopped at the gas station. Get me some beef jerky, please. Like in the middle of Louisiana, just stopping at a gas station. We're in Jacksonville.
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Starting point is 01:10:25 Yeah? A first. Oh, shit. For Amari Cooper? I know. Big fucking deal. What's their record? Are they going for it this year?
Starting point is 01:10:32 They're going for now. So they're not going for it this year. So here's Gruden collecting first rounders to build up the next time. What's that? The Raiders have three first rounders next year. The Raiders have three first round picks next year? Fucking Gruden. That's pretty significant. You know what you caniders have three first-rounders next year. The Raiders have three first-round picks next year? Fucking grew and fucking just... That's pretty significant. You know what you can do with three first-round picks?
Starting point is 01:10:49 You can trade two of them, get up to the first pick, and then also have another one. Yes. Oh, so the Raiders got the first pick in the NFL draft next year. That's exciting. That's exciting to hear. Who's better, Amari Cooper or Josh Gordon? Josh Gordon's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Josh, they got a Patriots, but got him for, what, a fifth? That's what the Patriots do. But he has that unreliability factor. Well, yeah, and he, I mean, Josh Gordon has played, or Josh Gordon hasn't played many games. Amari Cooper has. Josh Gordon, though, they figured out how to fucking use him. With a state of the Patriots here, we have a mass hole.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Connor, come in here, bub. This guy's the worst. He dresses like a child. He just got back from alumni weekend here come over here connor come over here bud i can't wait to hear this motherfucker your classic patriots are better than everybody man a guy who comments on tom brady's post and tells him let's go, we're going to have a great week. He's basically Tom Brady's motivational coach. Someone has to do it. If I don't know who will.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I think he has enough motivation. Have you seen what he does through all those Instagram posts? Have you read them? Who, him? Yeah. Foxy reads them to me. They're not bad.
Starting point is 01:11:59 The insulated flannel with sweatpants is... So he dresses like a 12-year-old. You had homecoming weekend this past weekend? Alumni weekend, yes. Fairfield University, fantastic. How was it? Did you lose your voice? It was great.
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Starting point is 01:12:35 fuck you. I felt like I was at home again, which was awesome. It was nice to get back to the coast, huh? It was nice to get back to the coast. It's great to be back in a clean city, but walking around and looking down and seeing cigarette butts everywhere was fun for a little.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Yeah, I can imagine. It's like getting out their blues clothes a little bit. Yeah, yeah, sort of. So Patriots, big day Sunday. Big day, big win. Chicago Bears, the line confused me. It was a trap line. It was a trap game.
Starting point is 01:13:01 It was two and a half or something like that. It was at three, and then it went to two and a half right before the game. And a trap game. It was 2.5 or something like that. It was at 3, and then it went to 2.5 right before the game. And nobody really understood why this was happening. I took the Patriots' money line, and it was only minus 125 or something like that. The Sharps, the people that are supposed to know, were all over the Bears. It doesn't make any sense to me why. And then the game starts happening while we're at the Colts game.
Starting point is 01:13:21 We have the Patriots-Bears game in the suite. Zito's glued to the TV over there, and he's like, they were right. That's what Zito kept saying. 17-7 early, and I was like, oh, they were right. They were right. That's all Zito kept saying is they were right, and I was like, there's no way the Patriots are going to lose to the fucking Bears. And then, thank God I was correct,
Starting point is 01:13:38 how do the Patriots fans feel after all the Vegas betting against them? Everybody seemed to be against the Patriots, but it seems the Patriots always do what the Patriots does, and that happened in Chicago. Well, I would never do it to Zito, so I haven't really given him shit at all. I mean, the first thing I said to him was,
Starting point is 01:13:54 wow, we really did steal one today. Because I got home last night around 10, so we didn't get any real time to talk about it. First thing I said, we really stole one. Listen to the humble pie over here. No, this is... Mitch played like dog shit. We, Patriot Nation. No, this is... Mitch played like dog shit. We, Patriot Nation, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:14:07 Mitch played like dog shit. Mitch didn't play like dog shit. Why? Because he had one rushing touchdown? No, because he had over 300 yards and two touchdowns. Yeah, but he does have... Three, including the... Yeah, but if you watch...
Starting point is 01:14:18 Suck it, Diggs. No, I agree with you. Did you watch the game? Yeah, he was 26 for 50. He threw the ball... Yeah, not good. I know, I agree with you, but I also don't think Mitch Trubisky is that good either.
Starting point is 01:14:28 I mean, I'd say you're saying he didn't play like Dosh and he played like he normally does. He was who he thought he was. His decision-making is good, though. That's one thing. He has a bad arm. I need to pull him and put Jacoby Brissett in. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:38 One yard short. Two special teams touchdowns. The odds of winning a football game with two special teams touchdowns has to be 100%. I think it's like 98%. If you have one, it's like 92% or something like that. So, again, that was a steal. We were talking about it all week because of that spread
Starting point is 01:14:55 after we beat the quote-unquote best team in the NFL, the Chiefs. I guess the Rams, but I don't think they're making it. Three was just not enough. Why do you think the Rams are better than... Is there anybody that scares the Patriot Nation? We, you, the Patriot Nation. By the way, way to use we instead of I like Hugh Jackson. No, no, no. This is in
Starting point is 01:15:13 Cleveland. I don't know, though. Honestly, I don't think the Rams are going to the NFC Championship. I think the Vikings beat the Rams in the playoffs because they lost during the regular season. Thielen, by the way, seven straight 100-yard games. He's incredible. Kirk Cousins is so happy that Thielen is there.
Starting point is 01:15:30 So happy. Because you've got Kyle Rudolph, too, opening things up for him. And Stephon Diggs on the other side taking the top off. That team's very good. And if Zimmer can get that defense to keep crushing. Zimmer was on game day prime with Deion Sanders. Zimmer once coached Deion Sanders. So watching those two interact was pretty cool. Watching Zimmer
Starting point is 01:15:48 be a human. Because I feel like Zimmer kind of has that Belichick kind of like grizzly. He was like very cool, very nice. You could see why the team likes him. I like the Vikings too. If Dalvin Cook, if they ever just let him sit and get healthy and then he comes back too. I mean, that's
Starting point is 01:16:04 a pretty good two-headed monster in the backfield. Stephon Diggs and Thielen are probably the best duo receiver after A.B. and Juju. So, I mean, the Vikings have a serious team. How do you guys feel about Josh Gordon? I mean, he's a stud. Did you see that fourth and one? That was an unbelievable catch.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Incredible catch. Incredible. So his locker is right next to Brady's locker. Right next to Brady's, yeah. And he got there, and they gave him the, hey, this ain't Cleveland anymore. You're not in Kansas anymore speech. Hey, we play football here.
Starting point is 01:16:32 We don't do all the other bullshit. And he's just going to become the best wide receiver in the league at some point? Or you think he's just going to be a very good role player for the Patriots? I hope we sign him. If we do, I think next year the possibility of Josh Gordon having 25 touchdowns is not that absurd. You think Tom Brady plays again next year? If we win it, then
Starting point is 01:16:52 we'll go back-to-back next year, and then he'll call it. Oh, you think he wants one more back-to-back? Yeah. If you're going to get six, might as well go for seven. Are you worried about Gronk's 12th back injury? Back injuries are tough, man. No, I'm not that worried about Gronk, because it's the same way we don't pin our offense around one player. Even if Gronk goes down, it's not the end of the world.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Same way we deal with our running backs, right? Sonny Michel goes down. Oh, shit. What are we going to do? Well, James White's still there. Patriots win without Gronk. It's a weird thing. It's very weird because you can't say that the Patriots are better without Gronk. It's a weird thing. It's very weird because you can't say
Starting point is 01:17:25 that the Patriots are better without Gronk, but I think their winning percentage is better without Gronk in. Well, he has been injured so many times, like you said, so we've won so many games
Starting point is 01:17:35 without him, and then we just added Josh Gordon, so I mean. So you think you guys have kind of figured out how, okay, if we lose the most
Starting point is 01:17:43 anabolic player, there's no way that's right. Perfect. Physically dominant?abolic player there's no way that's right perfect physically dominant perfect there's no way that's right look it up anabolic it's one of the greatest words he's an anomaly though yes okay that's i thought you were going for animal combining steroids and animal together no saying. I'm saying animal. That's not a bad call. And normally. He is. He's not supposed to be that big, that fast. That good, that smart, that high of football IQ.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Especially when he just looks like he's in pain all the time going up to the line. And then he just fucking runs around and beats a guy. He's got that illegal bionic arm on. He is in pain, though, I think. That's why he misses so many games. Are you worried Josh Gordon can't judge a fly ball based on that Hail Mary? That was a very tough look. And that's usually Gronk.
Starting point is 01:18:32 They don't put him in anymore because, you know, he is glass. But, I mean, Gordon will get the hang of it. He takes a lot of big shots because he's a big target. I will not sit here and let Patriots Nation not respect what Gronk is, which is a human battering ram. You fuckboys don't even understand what you have. You love Brady and Belichick so goddamn much that you don't even respect the Gronk.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Whipio, Western Pennsylvania, Interscholastic Athletic League, Woody High, Rob Gronkowski. We just put out products. That's all we do. We love Gronk more than anything after he said he would rather retire than go play for the Detroit Lions. Yeah, that was like, okay, Rob is back in a big way.
Starting point is 01:19:15 I don't know. Lions are pretty good. Oh, yeah. You guys think you win another Super Bowl, huh? At least one in the next three years. Not this year, though. I think this year, yeah. So one in the next one year, then? Well, I said at least one in the next three years. Not this year, though. I think this year, yeah. So one in the next one year, then?
Starting point is 01:19:28 Well, I said at least one. So I'm saying I think we win it this year, and then one in the next two years, and then Brady's done. After this season. Two in the next three years. At least one. We could also win all three. We could just win three in a row.
Starting point is 01:19:42 That's also a possibility. And, hey, Red Sox are in the World Series. This clean sweep of Boston, it's not looking too bad. I did say this. Starting with the Red Sox, we really could go. Do people watch the World Series? Yeah, I think so. A few. America's pastime here and there.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Were you a baseball fan until the Red Sox got good? No. My dad's also a Massachusetts man. My whole life, we've been Sox, Pats, Bruins, Celtics. I was at the 04 ring ceremony after they broke the curse, and we got our championship rings in front of the Yankees. That's probably the coolest sport I've ever been to.
Starting point is 01:20:18 What's your order of sports? Like what sport teams do you like? Pats are one, and then I'd put Celtics and Socks at 1A, and then Bruins are two So Bruins are number four Bruins are number two Yeah, hockey's number four That makes sense
Starting point is 01:20:34 That makes sense I mean, it's not because the How do you feel about Rondo Just fucking left Tolkien Chris Ball After spinning on him Well, the thing for me is that Now Rondo's He's under the LeBron tree
Starting point is 01:20:44 So the respect for me As far now rondo's uh he's under the lebron tree so the respect for me as far as rondo goes is a little under how dude have you seen a new lebron commercial awesome uh when he was giving his high school speech awesome awesome awesome it's the same answer he gave by the way nike i think they missed the boat here when he was at the lakers his first question was how much pressure do you have to perform and he said none there's no pressure i thought they were taking that answer in superimposing it over his high school no no no it was the same answer basically in two different times that that commercial really got me i was like this dude y'all like to watch me play basketball he says
Starting point is 01:21:21 it there it's like you're 100 hey lebr, you're 100% right. Hey, LeBron, you're 100% right. In high school, you were selling out arenas all around the country. Y'all like to watch me play basketball. So I'm just going to go. I ain't going to guarantee no championships. He changes town whenever he went to Miami. That kind of was the moment why people hate him. But if you don't like LeBron after watching that commercial, I'm very confused by you.
Starting point is 01:21:40 I haven't seen it, for one. But I'm more talking about how Rondo was the biggest LeBron hater, I think, in the NBA. Lance Stevenson's over there, too. Right. Lance Stevenson. Still starting to pot.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Rajon Rondo. Oh, yeah. They just picked up every LeBron hater. They're like, just put them all in one squad and see what happens. Yeah, the longest tenured Laker. Can you name him? We heard this this morning. Brandon Ingram.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Yeah. Nailed it. And he got a four-game suspension, right? Look at Diggins. And I'm also older than him. Well, yeah, because he came in throwing fucking haymakers. He came in real heavy-handed. Everyone else came in to break it up. He came in swinging.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Who did he not? He wanted to go after Mello, I think, right? It was Mello and Harden standing there. Yeah, I don't know. They said it was weird because him and Chris Paul trained in the offseason together. He wasn't swinging at Chris Paul, though, I don't think. No, I don't think so either. Rondo was swinging at Chris Paul, though, I don't think. No, I don't think so either. Rondo was swinging at Chris Paul.
Starting point is 01:22:29 I think Ingram or Ingram? Ingram. Ingram. Ingram. He came in, I think, at mellow. He shoved Harden earlier in the game and got teed up, too. So he was kind of just off his rocker the whole night. Everybody was kind of Stephen Jackson.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Stephen Jackson and Pac-Man Jones were commenting on each other's posts. Stephen Jackson said, I'm just here to see who all got involved with their teammate. That's what Steven Jackson said. And then Pac-Man was like, he gave like a, I concur. He didn't say I concur, but it was something along those lines. And then LeBron pulled Chris Paul out of there, though, which is a very interesting move. They're best friends.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Banana Boat Boys. It's a very interesting move. Steven Jackson, football or basketball? Basketball. Stack five, guys. Stack five. Friend Boat Boys. It's a very interesting move. Steven Jackson, football or basketball? Basketball. Stack five, guys. Stack five. Friend of the show. Friend of the show.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Did Melo do anything? No. No, he was standing right in front of Rondo. I guess Rondo did spit on Chris Paul, though. Sounds about right. They have an entire other angle that they zoom in on it. It was like a very sly spit, by the way. He must have practiced it.
Starting point is 01:23:24 This is one of those shits you practice in the mirror by the way. It was like don't move your lips it was like it looked like a ventriloquist trying to spit. It was like a like the one you do through your teeth. A gleek? No. It seemed like he like you put it out the end of your tongue
Starting point is 01:23:40 and he loaded it up on the tongue in the chamber. Did you guys see the Bleach Report thing they did for the Seinfeld? Yes, I did. Oh, my God. I enjoyed that very much. I didn't see it. So there was an old skit where Keith Hernandez and I don't know who was the guy.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Nice game. Spitter from the top of the... And they made fun of a JFK skit and they put it together, but they did that for that. It was the funniest thing I've ever seen. The NBA had the highest rated regular season game since Warriors' record-breaking 73rd win there for that Rockets. Lakers in L.A. That's early in the year to be getting ratings.
Starting point is 01:24:07 The NBA keeps going up and up every single year. Do you think the NBA told LeBron to go to Lakers? They didn't hate it. But they probably said, get the fuck out of Cleveland. Yeah, I think he wanted to be in L.A. Okay, but the NBA, I think, could have potentially had a hand in this. Like, hey, if we get you in Los Angeles, we can put you on primetime every single night you play, basically.
Starting point is 01:24:29 You and Cleveland is tough. We don't mind it. It's a good story. We like it. Just a kid from Akron. We like it. We like everything you're doing. But, boy, if you were to go to Los Angeles,
Starting point is 01:24:41 this would be better for everybody. Do you think that was ever said by the NBA behind closed doors? I think he's smart enough on his own to figure that out. He's smart enough, a good enough businessman to know that and just say, okay, yeah, you don't even need to say it. Maybe like a handshake, like, this is what's happening. I know they love having the Warriors
Starting point is 01:24:58 and the Lakers, two teams now that people on the East Coast will maybe stay up for. Right. And Rockets. Rockets are in Houston, which is only an hour behind. Oh, that's on me. Well, it'll be at 1030 is what I meant. Yeah, they were in that game. I think to your point, though,
Starting point is 01:25:12 they just realized that the NBA is better when the Lakers are relevant. Well, so when I was a kid, when I was a kid, we didn't have the NBA in Pittsburgh. I didn't really play basketball much. I didn't know much about basketball. But I knew Kobe Bryant and the Lakers late night. Cause when I couldn't sleep, the purple and gold were on TV late night.
Starting point is 01:25:31 And that was like, that was almost a team that I pulled for because they were on late night. And if it was nothing else on sports wise, that late night game was something I could go. I'd go to bed with Kobe. Okay. There was no anal like in Denver, but I went to bed with Kobe and it was, uh, wow like in Denver, but I went to bed with Kobe. And it was...
Starting point is 01:25:46 Wow. He got kicked out of a film festival for that. For what? He's not going because of that. No, they didn't let him in because of that. Yeah, they pulled his film from it. For what? Because of the accusations.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Controversy surrounding it. Because he cheated on his wife. Apparently. I think it's because of the other reason. The other one. What? The R word. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Rhymes with grape. Didn't it come out, though, that The other one. What? The R word. Yeah. It rhymes with grape. Didn't it come out, though, that it wasn't, right? Right, yeah. Well, there's always accusations. I mean, I still get tweets about Ben Roethlisberger, even though he got acquitted. Oh, yeah. Well, see, there's another thing.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Just like Ray Lewis. Ray Lewis never came out and talked about the entire trial, about how it was literally a jury came out and said that it was just self-defense. It was always hidden, so now everybody thinks Ray Lewis really did murder. You just said it earlier today. No, no, that was me. That was my bookie. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Yeah, you're just quoting other people. But I didn't know that that was still happening with Kobe, because I thought after he gave that fucking $25 million ring to his lady, it was all... He changed his number. He went from 8 to 24. Yeah. Completely new Kobe.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Rebrand. I didn't know that. I thought that was just all accusations. I didn't know that I thought that was just all accusations I didn't know that was actually a real thing Well I mean it is all accusations No charges were ever filed Yeah exactly It was very similar to the Rothlis brothers
Starting point is 01:26:53 Yeah very very similar But Ben's not making movies So we don't have to worry From the mind of Kobe Bryant Peyton Manning's got that now Detail from the mind of Peyton Manning Did you see that the clips they were showing I watched the Josh Rosen one
Starting point is 01:27:07 yeah he made me bet on the fucking Cardinals because of that that didn't work out fucking Peyton's hyping up Josh Rosen he's gonna be the next great one and then they get blown out by 40 you gotta remember Peyton his rookie year through like 45 interceptions Peyton was very terrible his rookie season trying to figure it out and kept
Starting point is 01:27:25 slinging it. So I think Peyton does kind of relate to the young quarterbacks that struggle because he's like, listen, I was in the same position you were. I got a band now. We travel around in a bus. That commercial, I can't take it anymore. Him and Paisley. We're a band.
Starting point is 01:27:41 I enjoy it. I enjoy the thought of it. But that Paisley guy's the worst. Couldn't they have somebody else in there that's, like, funny? I know. Get Tim McGraw in there. Blake Shelton. Tim McGraw. Any of these.
Starting point is 01:27:51 Blake Shelton and Peyton Manning, by the way, in a commercial. If we're going to do country musician and Peyton Manning, give me Blake Shelton. That Paisley guy. I don't know if he's from West Virginia. He makes good music. He should not speak, though. And I don't like that they're making him look good in speaking. Because he's not. Tim McGraw's a phenomenal Virginia. He makes good music. He should not speak, though. And I don't like that they're giving him, like, making him look good in speaking. Because he's not.
Starting point is 01:28:07 He's terrible. Bill McGraw's a phenomenal actor. Yeah, they have two country music stars. One's a TV star and one's a movie star. And you're not using either one. And we forced Brad Paisley down our fucking... Hard Knocks already did that. He did terrible.
Starting point is 01:28:20 So bad. So weird. He's a West Virginia guy, so I have to, like, kind of like him because he's putting on for the state. I love his music. Yes, he's very good musically. Very good musically. Mm-hmm. But stop the talk.
Starting point is 01:28:29 I'm sure he's a gentleman. Stop the talk. I'm sure he's a nice guy. I'm sure he's... Actually, I don't know after that creepy speech he gave to Baker Mayfield about buying the RV and all that shit. It's like, cuz, cuz, cuz. People are watching you say this.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Unbelievable. Anything else? No, that's about it for me. Red Sox win how many games? Red Sox in six. Who are they playing? Dodgers. It's a big one.
Starting point is 01:28:54 LA Boston is becoming a thing this year, because then it's going to be Lakers, Celtics again. LA Boston again. And then Rams, Patriots. Is that what you're saying? No, no. I just told you that. The Rams are making it to the NHL.
Starting point is 01:29:03 No, I'm just saying, if it was, dickhead. Why do you think the Rams aren't making it? Because I have a firm belief that if you beat a team No, no, I just told you that. No, I'm just saying if it was, dickhead. Why do you think the Rams aren't making it? Because I have a firm belief that if you beat a team in the regular season, when they come back around in the playoffs, they always win. So because the Rams beat the Vikings 38-31 at home. It's hard to beat teams twice. It's hard to beat teams twice. But it happens all the time.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Yeah, Patriots beat the Steelers twice. Three times. Yeah, the Steelers. I heard on the first part. Hold on. Oh, I know. Believe me. The quote is beat the team three times, noters twice. Three times. Yeah, the Steelers. Le'Veon's always got hurt on the first play. Hold on. Oh, I know. Believe me. The quote is beat the team three times, not two times.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Three times. It's hard to beat a team three times. Three times. Yeah, not two times. Because two is just division play. It happens all the time. Saints-Vikings. It really happens all the time.
Starting point is 01:29:36 People beat the team twice all the time in the regular season. Happens all the time. I don't believe me. We're in the AFC East. I know. Fuck yourself. Thanks for having me, guys. I think we covered everything the NFL-wise, huh?
Starting point is 01:29:50 Yeah, actually, yeah. I think we did. We fucking killed it. I think we did. Colts fans, how do we feel? Colts fans are good? Colts fans feel good? I feel good about Andrew Luck.
Starting point is 01:29:59 I think he looked, for most of the game, he looked the most like old Andrew that I've seen. He was able to escape trouble, get out of the pocket. He was real patient like old Andrew, letting the receiver open up again, make some plays. But that's usually when he plays a good team when he gets hit. So I don't know. That's a good thing or not.
Starting point is 01:30:18 He's number two in the league in touchdown passes. Eric Ebron, too, by the way, balling. Detroit Lions are back, they say. They called him Mike Patricia yesterday on TV Matt Patricia seems to have the Lions Doing some good things Finally have a running back For the first time ever
Starting point is 01:30:32 Good for you guys I'm happy for the Colts There was a time Since we were at the game There was a time Andrew Luck bailed out at the one Where he could have ran a guy over for a touchdown. And he chose not to. I like what we're doing there.
Starting point is 01:30:49 Let's keep you maybe on the field a little bit longer. The whole stadium was so confused. They didn't know what to do. They were like, should we cheer? Should we not cheer? He didn't want to kill himself there. It's crazy. I liked it.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Maybe he'll also stay off of mountains and snow since he's also doing that. I like listening to Bruce Arians talk about old Andrew. The way he was too tough for his own good, which isn't a smart thing. I get it. But he wasn't tough good. I mean, he wasn't afraid to get hit. Competitors. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:16 VA, by the way, how do we think he's doing on the television? Friend of the show. We will say friend of the show. Great man. Would love to drink with him knowing what he can do on a microphone because he's so freaking great when he calls into your show he does it's like he's being held back and not very much yeah i think he feels boxed it feels uncomfortable it does then it feels as if he's uncomfortable in there yeah and he looks
Starting point is 01:31:41 weird too sitting there those three men booth they pack them in there so tight. It's like, can't you just back up a little bit more? I feel like that whole area is much larger than they make it. I don't fully understand it. I might potentially get a three-man booth opportunity at some point. Maybe. Sure. If I'm in there, by the way.
Starting point is 01:32:01 You're going to change their whole mind. They're going to move the camera back. Can't you not back up a little bit? Wow, so much room. Oh, that's crazy. Now we're all sitting on top of each other. It's crazy. You don't have Bruce Arians sitting on Trent Green's lap.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Might be more comfortable for a Kangol kuzzy, by the way. Elon Musk's first tunnel under LA is almost done. Expecting to open on December 10th. He's got that shit from that planet universe he's from. Come back. Did this thing quickly? Is that not what he probably made this tunnel with? I will say though, it happened really fast. It happened really, really fast.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Yeah, that's what happened. I think he used the cartel. Oh, you're saying the best tunnel builders on Earth are the cartel. You don't think it's potentially his planet's tunnel digging thing? He outsourced for sure. You think he outsourced to planet Earth's diggers, the cartel? Yep.
Starting point is 01:32:48 The cars that they're using in this thing are definitely from his planet. Correct. They're electric. They go 155 miles an hour. Yeah. They're on magnetic rails. The Hyperloop ones go 700 miles an hour. What?
Starting point is 01:32:59 Dude, he's an alien. He's an alien. He tweeted one time that I used to be an alien, by the way. Do somebody? And that's a joke, I guess. Well, someone said alien and Elon are very close together as far as names. And then definitely, LA is definitely going to connect the tunnel
Starting point is 01:33:16 from LA to Chicago, Chicago to New York. The aliens are just going to run the underground. Does he have a brother that lives here too? UGK. Actually, no. They'll probably connect LA to the Denver airport. Denver airport to Chicago. Chicago to New York.
Starting point is 01:33:31 I never thought about that. LA Elon. You can't forget about the fucking Denver airport. All you need is an I. Replace the O with an I. It's basically Elon. Alien. He's definitely an alien. We're all in on this? Yeah, he's an alien. It's basically Elon.
Starting point is 01:33:46 He's definitely an alien, right? We're all in on this? Yeah, he's an alien. I am literally all in. This might sound like just a gimmick. Elon Musk is an alien. We have to make sure that he knows when this gets back to him because, of course, they're all listening,
Starting point is 01:33:58 that we don't care. I don't care that you're an alien. You don't need to come kill us. I have a Tesla. I love it. It's my favorite car. We appreciate your technology. It's faster than every other us. I have a Tesla. I love it. It's my favorite car. We appreciate your technology. It's faster than every other car that I have
Starting point is 01:34:08 that's supposed to be fast. It's more durable than every other car that's supposed to be more durable. Somehow just runs on plugging it into my house. I like what you've done, Elon, but I do know that this shit ain't from Earth. You are going to your universe, to your planet,
Starting point is 01:34:24 bringing back those concepts and ideas to here and making it happen, but I respect it. I respect it, Elon. Good for him. Falcon 9 was a UFO. When I was there, I seen it with my own eyes. I won't lie with you. That was a UFO. And they were like, oh, that's Elon Musk. He's
Starting point is 01:34:39 figured out a way to disguise his own car back to everybody. He just goes home. He just goes home. Coming in time. Yeah, he goes back and visits. It was an IFO. It was an IFO. Identified.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Because we know it's him. You ain't playing any games with us. We know what you're doing. According to the Center for Immigration, the South Indian language Telugu is the fastest growing in the U.S., growing by 86% over the past seven years i've no clue what that means so it went from like seven people to 86 people that's great that would be 86 i believe if you do the math quick math there what is this yeah no it just said that in
Starting point is 01:35:15 certain pockets of big u.s cities the uh this speaking language is like taking over pretty much it's still not one of like the top 50 in the world, but they expect it to really skyrocket here in the next few years. So I want to get into, obviously everybody knows I want to get into WWE. And I also want to get into movies. And if you watch The Rock's Blueprint, you get into China, you're in a good spot.
Starting point is 01:35:38 I want to learn how to speak Mandarin. Because John Cena just posted a video of him speaking Mandarin. And I know he's going to make $100 million for the rest of his life every movie he puts out video of him speaking Mandarin. And I know he's going to make $100 million for the rest of his life every movie he puts out because he can speak Mandarin. This is something I should really Rosetta Stone the shit out of and learn Mandarin.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Did he get the Erlacher surgery? Does he have hair now? That was his first time growing hair, though. He just let it grow. Personally, as somebody who's watched John Cena for so long, it's very weird seeing him with hair. It's very weird. Erlacher, I think, looks really good.
Starting point is 01:36:05 John Cena, for some reason, I think it just is weird to see him with that hair. Erlacher, very weird to see him with hair, but you go, oh, he looks good. John Cena with hair, you're like, it looks weird. It just looks fake. It does, doesn't it? It looks like he just puts the thing on and takes it off
Starting point is 01:36:22 and then speaks Mandarin. I need to learn how to speak Mandarin. You learning Mandarin or trying to read Mandarin would be the greatest content that we've... What are these fucking hieroglyphics? The world's largest sea crossing bridge to open between Hong Kong and China in 2018. That's this year.
Starting point is 01:36:39 The 20 billion 34 mile bridge will go across 11 cities in effect around 68 million people. Look at these idiots, still building stuff above ground. They need their own alien. Bro, hardcore. Part of it does go beneath the sea. Godzilla's going to wreck it in two months.
Starting point is 01:36:56 The only issue of going under the sea is you can never fix it. That's what New York City is currently. It's terrible. You can never fix it. That's what New York City is currently. It's terrible. You can never fix it. You are stuck with that for eternity because it's under the bedrock. Is that the subway 60 Minutes or whatever that just came out this weekend?
Starting point is 01:37:13 Something like that? I don't know. Yeah, it was about how they can't fucking fix the subway because it's under. Well, I wouldn't even, I'd assume that is the case because we're in that goddamn bridge. What's the tunnel?
Starting point is 01:37:22 Was it the Hudson? No, it's the Lincoln. That Hudson River? It might be the river,, it's the Lincoln. The Hudson River. Was it the Lincoln? It might be the river, but it's the Lincoln Tunnel, I think. That goes from New Jersey into New York where everybody and their mom is trying to get in the most popular city on Earth.
Starting point is 01:37:33 And it's only two lanes in, two lanes out, and it's under bedrock. Can't fix it. Can't change it. Can't expand it. You just got to live with it forever because they went underwater. Maybe going over top is smart
Starting point is 01:37:42 until you get your own alien like Elon Musk. Smart. You need your own alien like Elon Musk. Smart. That's what you need, your own alien. I don't know how anybody thinks Elon isn't an alien at this point. That's how far into Elon Musk being an alien that I am. That's how far I'm at. Matt Groening, time traveler, Elon Musk is an alien.
Starting point is 01:37:59 I think we're all in the same picture. Yeah. Are people doubting it? I think maybe after this show we maybe do a lot of research and we put together kind of like a
Starting point is 01:38:09 what you did for Groning for Elon and then just start whipping it out yeah how do you create a car that's faster than a Lambo Ferrari and everything like that
Starting point is 01:38:16 and has no gas alien technology what alien technology he didn't speak into the mic and he didn't speak English either he just he ran his words together
Starting point is 01:38:25 But I heard Alien technology I think Alien technology A lioness at the Indy Zoo Killed the father of her three cubs Over the weekend Suffocating it to death
Starting point is 01:38:33 Strangled that motherfucking thing I've seen a dateline like this It's not good That's what wives do Isn't that right Todd? Hi-yo Makes sense They were together for eight years
Starting point is 01:38:41 That's about the mark We decided We're really gonna be together forever We're gonna end this When you're going to be together forever. We're going to end this. When you're in a cage together, it's like divorce is an option. This guy's a killer. This one really hit you.
Starting point is 01:38:57 This one really hit home in the jungle for Todd McCullough. Yeah, I get that. NYPD is recalling almost 3,000 body cams after one ignited and blew up over the weekend. So we got hoverboards, vape pens, and now body cameras. It was a Samsung body cam. That's probably what it was. Oh, it's for the batteries. This also sounds like a possible, yeah, they're blowing up so we can pull the body cameras.
Starting point is 01:39:15 I don't have to wear them anymore. You saw it. The one blew up on fucking Detective Sarge over there. I'm not doing it. You think Detective Sarge's chest can hang on? I can't handle it. I'm not putting one of You think we'll detect the Sarge's chest? I'm not putting one of these body cameras on ever again. Yeah, I'm going right back in Precinct 25. Going right back in. I won't wear a body camera that'll blow me up. I won't be safe.
Starting point is 01:39:33 That seems like that's what happened. Host of Pat McAfee's show, Nick Morata Blows Colorbone. That was right here on the shoot. I don't know what you're talking about. It's right here on the right here on the I don't know what you're talking about it's right here on the bottom
Starting point is 01:39:45 oh there it is don't take that off you're gonna hurt yourself Ty Schmidt makes a list of things we should talk about each show very nice
Starting point is 01:39:53 normally I don't stick on today we did we've knocked out everything to be honest we really did we knocked out everything on there
Starting point is 01:39:57 which is good probably a pretty good show if I had to guess I assume it was Ray Carruth released from prison after almost 20 years we talked about that
Starting point is 01:40:02 right? yeah I don't think it should have you don't think he should have. You don't think he should have been released? Not all murders are created equal. This type of murder where you kill your pregnant girlfriend. Hire someone.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Hire someone. Yeah, either way. Same thing. I don't think that's a 20-year. I think that's probably more of like a 50-year. It's very interesting because when I mentioned it earlier, it was like, well, people respect like you do your time, right, for the crime. it earlier it was like will people respect like you do your time right for the crime by the way his his uh lawyer david rudolph staircase lawyer was ray caruth's lawyer really yeah david rudolph got him a good deal too david rudolph was his lawyer so i got a chance to talk to david rudolph
Starting point is 01:40:36 privately after the interview with my show about everything and he was like yeah ray caruth's getting out too this october he was a client of mine i was like who's regular he's like oh carolina Panthers player who hired somebody to kill his wife or girlfriend or whatever. Yeah, David Rudolph was his. That's wild. It is crazy. Very, very small world for him.
Starting point is 01:40:53 It's so... I don't know if Ray Caruth knows what type of world he's walking into right now. Not a clue. He has no clue. The world has changed so much. 44 years old, he comes out, and he has this stigma around him.
Starting point is 01:41:05 It's not even stigma. It's a label. It's a real thing, though. It's a real thing where people, things that weren't heard about way 20 years ago, are now killing people's careers, as they should, by the way. People do terrible things. It comes to light, whatever, blah, blah, blah, keep it moving. Ray Carruth, it's known what he did 20 years ago.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Yeah. And now he has no chance at all. He's never seen an iPhone. Well, most people have been in jail. Goodness is like people can't unearth bad tweets that he tweeted like six, seven years ago. Spinzone. Optimism for Ray Carruth possibly
Starting point is 01:41:36 that he didn't tweet anything stupid. I don't know what he's going to have. I think he just wants to disappear. I was going to say he'll probably be like bagging groceries or something, won't he? Yeah, it all depends on how he chooses to handle it, right? Does he try and get into the public eye?
Starting point is 01:41:47 Does he do a bunch of interviews? That's strictly us, right. Or does he just kind of put his head down and get back to work? Do you set up your own paparazzi at a gas station your first trip out of jail
Starting point is 01:41:55 like O.J. Simpson did? I don't think Ray Carruth is going to do that. I think Ray Carruth is just going to disappear. Yeah, that would be the move. That's from my conversations with his lawyer, David Rudolph,
Starting point is 01:42:03 is that Ray Carruth is just going to disappear. Oh, inside info. Oh, inside information. He could be wrong, though. Who knows? This is what I heard. It seems as if his lawyer told me that he is just going to want to disappear.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Probably the right move, by the way. A lot of people probably wish he was still in jail, Diggs being one of them. If he just disappears and doesn't do anything wrong ever again, keep him moving. He doesn't exist in my world. It's a wild take for me to have, too. I'm proud of myself. Very moral high ground. ground yeah it's a wild for me it's hard to get on his side though i don't know that's tough man it's tough to get behind because the boy lived the son lived and now he's like physically and mentally disabled cerebral
Starting point is 01:42:37 palsy and something did the girlfriend die yeah yes i think he is messed up from complications of her dying and then them having to deliver the child. Oh, so I thought it was like a dateline where he was attempting to hire somebody and got unfoiled. No, it went through with her. Yeah, she actually died. She was shot four times, I think. She was able to deliver the baby because of complications of her being wounded.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Oh, yeah, yeah. That's why I think it should be more than 20. It's because it actually happened. I didn't know that. See, I thought it was because they keep saying he hired somebody to do it. I didn't know it actually did happen. Oh, my God. Yeah, I read the thing today.
Starting point is 01:43:13 It said that they were in the car together, and he had it planned so that this guy was going to pull up aside them while she was still in the car, and she got shot four times. She didn't die that day. I think it was, yeah, a couple days later. And she was a warrior like she got on the phone made the 911 call and made sure they knew ray did this like that's how that yeah that's how they knew she like hung on long enough to say hey just so you know i'm dying this is the guy who did it holy shit that changes everything then
Starting point is 01:43:43 what a terrible, terrible person. For him only getting 20, it also shows how good of a lawyer David Rudolph is again. Best lawyer on earth, that guy. He's in trouble. David Rudolph's the guy. That sucks, though. That's terrible.
Starting point is 01:43:56 It's terrible. It's like, what do you do? Because I am a firm believer, if you do your time, you get a second chance in this world. But a crime like that, it's like, that's tough. 44 is young. He's got a lot of time a lot of time he's got like 40 years left because i'm sure he was living pretty healthy you're not living unhealthy you're not abusing
Starting point is 01:44:13 drugs and alcohol that's true you know you're eating what stand two hots in a car or whatever you're working out probably mentally it's probably terrible obviously 20 years being in a cage but still he's got a lot of life left to live i didn't know the person i didn't know the girl died i thought it was like a date line they saw it all unfold like it went to like uh like he went to a cop who was actually yeah one of those which was natural to assume because that's usually the sentence i didn't know like that would get versus the other yes i think that's why i thought 20 years i was like oh he must have got caught in the middle i didn didn't know it actually happened. I'm surprised they didn't bring it up in the Steyr case at all.
Starting point is 01:44:48 You know what I'm saying? Like, same kind of case. Not really the same, but like a death. It's not even close. Nowhere near. Well, like, he was convicted for murdering his wife, right? What, he paid an hour to come in the car? Well, no, like the whole prosecution thought that he killed her, right?
Starting point is 01:45:03 Yeah, but I think David Rudolph has been the defense for, there's a lot of murders. I think he's been around a lot of murders. Granted, the Rake Ruth one is a big one. So you would think that is a notable one that they would maybe mention. But I don't think there's any similarities between the two that it would be referenceable, if that makes sense. Not speaking for David Rudolph, but I would assume
Starting point is 01:45:22 maybe that's one of those cases where he's like, I'm not here to prove you innocent. I'm here to get you the best deal possible because that's my job. Jeez. God damn it. So they caught the guy that shot her? Yep. And then he just rolled over on Ray?
Starting point is 01:45:35 Yeah, I think so. He got 40 years. The guy that did it got 40 years of jail? Yeah, the guy that shot her. So that probably kept him, I'm guessing kept him from the death sentence as giving information on who hired him. Probably, if I had to guess. How much do you think Ray paid that guy?
Starting point is 01:45:54 That's what we need to know. We hear of all these ridiculous ones where people try to do it. Five grand. People pay on Dateline. It's like five grand, 7,500 bucks sometimes. It's like motherfuckers are dying for 7,500 bucks. Why does a first-round draft pick pay? It's different five grand, 7,500 bucks sometimes. Yeah. It's like motherfuckers are dying for 7,500 bucks. Why does a first round draft pick pay? It's different probably.
Starting point is 01:46:08 He was 24 in a first round draft pick. So he was playing for the Panthers. Oh, yeah. Like he was a star of their team. He had like a $13.7 million contract or something, I think. Back then. It's a pretty big one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:20 What the fuck's he doing? I'm no longer on his side. I'm a true rock and jerk. I was never on his side no you were never on it but i was always giving him the benefit yeah you did the crime you do the time i didn't know that actually killed somebody though that's fucking terrible i didn't know the hitman thing ever worked by the way just like i i never believe people in high speed chases ever get away because all you see on tv is high speed chase bust all you see on tv is high-speed chase bust all you see on tv is hitman fake hire bust bing bang boom you keep it moving i didn't know it actually ever
Starting point is 01:46:51 happens it's it's a guy but it's such a fascinating thing to me you bringing it up it's perfect because how do you treat this person the justice was served this is what justice said justice is he complied he He did it. And from what I say, he was a model inmate. He had a job. He worked in there, and he did his time. And now he's out, and he said, all I want to do is try to develop a relationship with my son,
Starting point is 01:47:16 which is weird because he's a victim of it. But, you know, I don't know. What do you do with the person then? I don't know. If you're a world like we are that's supposed to, prison is supposed to accomplish this thing. you're supposed to be punished for your crimes and reform that's what everyone wants right ideally and if he's a different person now i mean that's a horrible obviously choice to make but if you spent 20 years or 18 years in prison
Starting point is 01:47:38 and now you are a different he was a very young man when he went in there what do you do with what do we do how do i what how what happens with rake ruth yeah that'll be a very interesting question that time will tell i mean he's not babysitting my kid but i don't know you know what casey anthony rake ruth both fuck have a kid keep him over that's what happens yeah dicks can see it happening look he's he's picturing it right now. Last stat here. Nick Roto, collarbone, RIP Saturday, October 20th. That's what I have here on the notes.
Starting point is 01:48:12 It says fractured. Fractured? Mine says rest in peace. It just died. Yours is fractured? Six to 12 weeks. I have the medical version of the notes. High level, top notch, grade one, piece of shit. Nick Roto used to have two functioning collarbones. Used to have
Starting point is 01:48:28 two functioning hands. Yeah, it was a good clavicle. It was a good clavicle. I think people would say that Nick Morado's clavicle was above average. Oh, yeah. People were angry about your clavicles. Didn't stick out too much, but there was some nice definition. Not strong. It wasn't strong, but it was good. I mean, it made it 32 years. It never really got tested much. It was more of
Starting point is 01:48:44 a model clavicle as opposed to an action clavicle. Yeah, I would say it's a good way to put it. I do have a good model shape. What happened? Yeah, what did happen to your clavicle that had a good run for 32 years there? Let's see. What did I tell people so far? I told them that I fell off a ladder working around the house.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Oh, real banjo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was windy Saturday. I mentioned it was a pickup football game. But no, the real story is I was out with Zito and Evan. We went out to go get some food. Had a couple drinks.
Starting point is 01:49:14 Got a little excited. We hit some pool tabs. Won a $500 pool tab. It was going to be a good day. Hi-yo. Hitting those pool tabs, by the way, seems like hitting a Powerball when you're in there
Starting point is 01:49:21 because everybody's losing on us. Oh, we were riding high after that. Riding high. Chevy riding high, boy. For you that don't know a pool tab which i didn't know what it was you go to a bar and it's basically these little tabs that pop open it's just like a scratch off yeah you're basically getting a scratch off at the bar the bar rakes in money one person out of 5 000 wins pretty much and if you win 500 while you're in the bar you're considered kind of a piece of shit if you just close your tab and leave with the $500.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Yeah. I mean, you're supposed to spend it in the bar on your friends. Yeah, it's stupid. It's a stupid thing, but it's very addicting and enjoyable. Yeah. But anyways, the group you guys were with won $500. You guys were riding very high. Yeah, and you guys know I've had some shit going on.
Starting point is 01:50:02 I've been kind of down on the dumps more than usual, blah, blah, blah. But I was like, this Saturday, I was like, you know what? Let's let it go. Let's have a good time. Let's get out there. Let's go after it. And we did. The glass was half full on Saturday. It was. Very positive Nick on Saturday. Wow, that's crazy. Optimistic Nick. It's weird how this works. Optimistic. So Foxy
Starting point is 01:50:19 says, he mentions that he has to go back to the office to get a camera for your showing tomorrow. The old man bit. I was like, okay, whatever, no problem. He was like, let's run back there, and then we'll come back out. I was like, all right, cool. We walk outside. I'm sorry that didn't affect your evening, by the way, Foxy.
Starting point is 01:50:35 Big day the next day. We'll just go get the camera drunk, and we'll go back out. Just had to charge it up. That's all. Yeah, that's all. $70,000 for cancer. It's no big deal. No big deal.
Starting point is 01:50:44 I'll go out. I'll go back. Oh, no, we ran out of good time. Oh, yeah course so we're like all right you know what do we get an uber walk 70 000 for cancer yeah we'll go and then we'll go back life-changing for someone who is a victim of anybody yeah who could potentially have kids oh it was life-changing trip for sure okay Okay. Sorry. So Zito, I think, was like, let's scoot. There's scooters right here. Oh, put that on me. It was. It was Zito that said it.
Starting point is 01:51:10 I heard him say it. So immediately in my head, I thought, probably shouldn't. Probably. My first thought was just stay at the bar and keep drinking. Second thought was get an Uber. Third thought was like, all right, I'll jump on here. Everyone's doing it. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:51:23 In my defense, though, I would never want to do a physical activity like scooter. Even though you're electric, you got a push start. I would never want to do that. I'm an Uber guy. Yeah. You very much wanted to do it in so facto that I tried to sign up and download the app and it wouldn't accept my credit card, which was another warning sign that I shouldn't have done this.
Starting point is 01:51:38 And that Zito actually got the scooter for me on his account. Nice guy. Yeah. Was a very nice guy. I appreciated it. Nice guy. So we get on the scooters. We go over. We go. Yeah, because I couldn't afford it. I appreciated it. I bought it for him. Nice guy. So we get on the scooter as we go to the office.
Starting point is 01:51:49 Foxy charges the camera. It's like four blocks. Yep. Yeah, not too far. But amazingly fun. Like, we're zooming on these things. And I'm like, this is a great time. They're fast. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:51:58 15 miles an hour. Yeah. Yeah, they're fast. Very fast. And we're on the sidewalks. Apparently, you're not supposed to be on the sidewalks. It says as soon as you start the ride. It says don't go on sidewalks.
Starting point is 01:52:07 Didn't know that because I didn't have the app on my phone. Oh, Zito didn't tell you. That's a Zito. Sounds like a lawsuit coming. Oh, it sounds like a Zito, too. Like, eh, but we won't finish the deal. What's David Rudolph doing right now? But, you know, on the trip there, I got a little cocky.
Starting point is 01:52:23 And I was like, we're really gunning it. Hammer down the whole way. And I'm thinking to myself, man, I can't believe more people don't get hurt on these things. These things fly. How aren't some old motherfucker get on this and just bust their face open? So on the way back, I've already made one trip. I'm like, we're good to go. So I start zooming down the sidewalk.
Starting point is 01:52:41 I'm looking behind me, seeing what's going on. All of a sudden, I felt a little wobble. Tried to ditch it. Took like one or two steps. Knew I was going down. Tried to tuck and roll. Tucked. Didn't roll as much as I wanted to.
Starting point is 01:52:55 Right under my shoulder. Snap. Oh, Aaron Rodgers. Sam Bradford. So immediately, I knew something was wrong. And I popped up and I grabbed my shoulder. I was like, ah, that fucking hurt. Like, that hurt. I'm gripping my teeth. He's like, oh, fuck. I shoulder. I was like, ah, that fucking hurt. Like, that hurt.
Starting point is 01:53:05 I'm gripping my teeth. He's like, ah, fuck. I'm walking around thinking, like, okay, okay, okay. You're all right. You popped right back up. You picked the scooter up. You're good. You get back on it.
Starting point is 01:53:11 You keep going. I knew. I couldn't lift my arm above my shoulder. I was like, something is wrong. He texted me for a diagnosis. I told him it was just a sprain. Well, in my head, I was like, I was like, all right. right i either broke my collarbone it's an ac joint classic andrew luck situation or my shoulder separated which would have been the highlight
Starting point is 01:53:33 that would have been the goal right there as a shoulder separation i get home i'm like all right i'll sleep it off see how i feel tomorrow wake up go to the colts game with you guys have a good time grit and bear it the whole time after that i'm I'm like, I should go get an x-ray. Go get an x-ray. I'm in the x-ray room. The x-ray tech takes the x-rays, and I'm looking at them. They're on the wall. I can see them.
Starting point is 01:53:52 Oh, boy. And I'm like, oh, it looks like there's nothing there. And by this point, it already feels a little bit better. I'm more loose with it. Oh, things opt in. We're coming around. Yeah, I'm like, all right, shoulder separation. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:54:01 This is good. Ligaments, you know, who needs them? They'll loosen up. They'll be good. I was like, oh, so nothing too jarring, all right, shoulder separation. Here we go. This is good. Ligaments. Who needs them? They'll loosen up. They'll be good. I was like, oh, so nothing too jarring, I assume, because he didn't see him out of the ordinary. He's like, well, technically, I can't really read it. I can't tell you legally. I'm not allowed to read it.
Starting point is 01:54:14 I was like, okay, fine. Radiology is a four-year school. Need another six years to read that thing. But I was like, no big deal. This guy seems casual about it. I go sit down. The nurse practitioner comes back in the room. She goes, she knocks on the door,
Starting point is 01:54:28 slowly opens it and goes, yeah, it's way broke. Fuck. That's year seven, by the way. It's way broke. By the way, it's way broke, bro. That thing's way broke.
Starting point is 01:54:43 I'm going back now and I'm looking because I was drunk at a wedding, 945 on Saturday night. He goes, 40% chance I broke a collarbone. I said, love that. You fall? Stinks. Just vibing, shoulder bumping. Love that, man. You just fall.
Starting point is 01:54:55 I love what you're doing. So I think this is a message for everybody. These lion and bird scooters are incredibly fun. They're saving the environment. One scoot at a time. You're not incredibly fun. They're saving the environment one scoot at a time. You're not using gas. They're efficient. You don't have to pay much.
Starting point is 01:55:12 But what they don't come with is a confidence warning. You're going to be tooting around on that thing. It's just a two-and-a-half-inch piece of metal that you're standing on, by the way, three inches metal across. And you're going 15 miles an hour, and you might be on there for 10, 15 minutes, and you might really start feeling yourself you might think back to the days in high school when you were tony hawk pro skateboarder or maybe you were on a mongoose bmx bike and you were just fucking grinding everywhere you had the shoes that could grind on and you think you know what i have good
Starting point is 01:55:41 balance i'm a monster on this thing i've been on here 10 minutes or so i figure it out i know where the brakes are but what it doesn't tell you is hey listen your confidence is wrong this is something like you haven't done in 10 years from now you haven't done for 15 years your body weight is gonna send you one way and this scooter is gonna go another way out of nowhere when i was on that thing in la it was my first time ever bird scootering around. I thought on numerous occasions, I have no clue how people don't fuck themselves up because it's very easy to be wide open.
Starting point is 01:56:12 And then if you have to stop with the quickness, there's a lot of dexterity there from thumb to brake to everything. And then the wobble quick out of nowhere. And it's only three inches wide that you're standing on. And there's there's a lot of potential for injury not that i ever want them to see them disappear but i have no clue how they're going to withstand the lawsuits that are going to get not from nick
Starting point is 01:56:33 but from humans exactly like nick who not only popped their collarbone but potentially their face and head open which is right around the corner you are exactly there's very little i just wrote one the other day and i was like there's very little, I just rode one the other day and I was like, there's very little between me and the street right now. And the problem is, if you have to, for some reason, because of a flaw in the street
Starting point is 01:56:50 or whatever, bail from that, your feet are at zero miles an hour when they're on there. Oh yeah, I saw that real quick. And in a blink of an eye, be 15 miles an hour.
Starting point is 01:56:59 Yep. That means you're going to fall. Well, you've got to be an athlete. Well, they don't tell you about the holes in the sidewalk that they give donkey tours down to the an athlete. Well, they don't tell you about the holes in the sidewalk that they give donkey tours down to the bottom.
Starting point is 01:57:09 Indianapolis. Well, I'm happy for you, chicken wing. I think it's a good thing. But yeah, I took a lot of shots there, Foxy. I mean, it's all on me. I know it. I'm an idiot. Like, I deserve what I got.
Starting point is 01:57:20 I think you're being a little hard on yourself. I mean, that's a very difficult thing. When I was on it in Los Angeles, I very much understood how people get fucked up on it because I have a motorcycle. I am a person who has good balance. I can hoverboard around anywhere. I have great balance.
Starting point is 01:57:37 I'm very lucky with that whole thing. But there was a couple times where I was in L.A. where I almost fucking ate shit. I'm like, man. You got some people are very unathletic looking motherfuckers trying to spend 50 cents to get a quarter of a mile there there's some bad situations that could be cooking here and nick who's an athlete in all names is now frankie one arm and i can't wait to watch his clavicle recover you might need a surgery huh
Starting point is 01:57:59 they say i think it's like five to ten percent of people who break their collarbone need surgery you can bet your bottom dollar I'm going to be in that class. We're proud of you. We're thankful for you. I can't wait to see how this turns into some content. You can't use your right hand for the next at least month, which is hysterical to think about. You're a right-handed man.
Starting point is 01:58:17 It's awesome. I drive a stick. Can't do that. You have a manual transmission. He has to borrow one of my cars. Supposed to move in like three weeks. Yeah, he has to borrow one of my cars. Supposed to move in like three weeks. That's going to be tough to do. Sounds like Ty's moving for two. Well, we
Starting point is 01:58:33 got movers, so I don't know. I'm not going to be doing a lot of moving. You want him to have the company car? What's that? The company car? Yeah, I'm going to give him a company car. I'm going to give him a company car for sure. Very grateful for that. It wasn't the company Bentley, but I didn't ask for the top. Anything I can get at this point. That Bentley's battery's dead.
Starting point is 01:58:49 It's got one busted clavicle, too. I don't know if you want that. Hashtag endgame, hashtag endgame. Send us a picture of something a person with one arm can do. That's what Nick's life is for the next six weeks. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you're having a blast. We're so thankful for all of you. So, so much for listening. I hope you're having a blast.
Starting point is 01:59:06 We're so thankful for all of you. So, so thankful for all of you. Go and download mybookie.ag First deposit, 100% bonus. Thursday we have a BPAP MAC fee. We've got to figure out what it is, but we'll let you know on the social medias. And aside from that, we're so thankful for you. You guys
Starting point is 01:59:22 are the absolute best. Have an incredible Tuesday. We'll see you on Thursday. Heartland Radio 2.0 is man the absolute best. Have an incredible Tuesday. We'll see you on Thursday. Heartland Radio 2.0 is manana. Cheers. Have a great day. Ty Schmidt, hit the music.

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