The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 017 - The Greatest Scorer In The History Of Scoring.. Adam Vinatieri

Episode Date: October 30, 2018

On today's show, Pat starts by interviewing The GOAT, and now most prolific point scorer in NFL history, Adam Vinatieri. They chat about his mindset during the game against the Raiders, how he's feeli...ng coming off an injury against Buffalo, and he looks back on his career in an incredible interview (0:00-13:10). Then, Pat and the guys dive into their Halloween weekends, look back on last week in the NFL including Pat's experience when playing in London, the players from the Jaguars who were arrested for not paying a $64,000 bar tab, whether or not the league or any team has suspended a player for HGH, Digs' bad quarterbacks of the week, and Pat reacts to Todd Haley and Hue Jackson getting fired from his hotel room in Connecticut. They also chat about the Red Sox winning the World Series, and Pat talks about his upcoming meetings at ESPN this week. It's a good one, come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:38 10, 15 minutes. 10, 15? Okay. All right, thank you. Okay, bye. Is this job that miserable? What does that mean? We have an interview with Vinatieri.
Starting point is 00:00:50 You just heard it. You just heard it live. We have an interview with Vinatieri. That was the Colts PR guy. Basically, I assume everybody and their mom wants to talk to Adam Vinatieri today. He just broke a record that's never going to be broken. Let's get to it. Ladies and gentlemen, joining me now is a man from South Dakota.
Starting point is 00:01:05 He's an Italian. He played in Amsterdam. He played in New England. He played in Indianapolis. And now he sits atop the points mountain as king in the history of the NFL. Nobody has ever scored more points than this man. Nobody will ever score more points than this man, the paisaisan, the old-ass Adam Vinatieri. Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Thanks for having me on. Hey, thanks for sneaking us in here. I'll tell you what. I saw your Top of the Mountain thing yesterday. I literally had to watch it about three or four times, laughed and cried the whole time. It was awesome. I had to make the Italian bulldozer joke. I had to get the Italian side side you know what i mean you're you're quite a paisan yeah i love it yeah the only thing i wish it were you wasn't had like three parts so you wouldn't have to like
Starting point is 00:01:53 scan to the next one and listen to it i wish it could have you know i wish if social media needs to figure out a way where you can do a five minute piece and not have to like cut to the next one to the next one to the next one you to the next one, to the next one. You know what I mean? That's on Twitter, Vinny. That's on Twitter. Instagram has the minute. I know. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. They need to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Anyway, keep going. I want to let you know, there was a lot of conversation about what photos went into that video. A certain shirtless photo was definitely almost in there, and I pulled it out. I pulled it out. Well, that's when I was a whole lot younger, less gray, and probably body fat was probably at least a solid 5% to 7% less at that point. How's your body feel now, man? You just battled through a groin injury,
Starting point is 00:02:36 which is a nightmare of an injury for a kicker because it just nags and nags and nags. I saw it the week before. I knew something was wrong with you. I was in the stadium. I did that old man kicking thing. I saw you the week before. I knew something was wrong with you. I was in the stadium. I did that old man kicking thing. I saw you hitting balls in warm-ups. The balls were flying ugly.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Then you came out late at a halftime, and I knew something was wrong. I was like, Vinny's hurt. And then it came out you had a groin injury. They worked out other kickers, and then you still battled through and did that. Was there any way you were going to miss that Oakland Raiders game? Well, two things. First and foremost, Aaron Burrell, our physical therapist, did a fantastic job. We worked long and hard hours all week long to get it under control
Starting point is 00:03:14 and to get it good enough to go. And I tell you what, I know you've always mentioned that I'm a pretty competitive guy. I sat in the training room, looked out the window, and watched three guys try to battle to take my job for a week. I tell you what, that above anything and everything probably told me there's absolutely no way I'm not going to play this
Starting point is 00:03:33 weekend because with all due respect to all them guys, I didn't want to be standing on the sideline watching somebody else do my job. It was a collective hard work between you know the training staff aaron i guess myself too to make sure we were ready to go but it was uh it was i was very very happy to be able to go out there and be able to kick yesterday did you think
Starting point is 00:03:56 back to the year where matt stover was kicking and you weren't whenever you saw those three dudes working out for the team you're like i ain't ever doing that a fucking yeah well i don't know if i was thinking that but yeah it was kind of the same kind of feeling and they're laughing at me and telling me to get away from the window and come over and get some treatment and i was i was trying to i mean if i could have i probably would have went outside and did some push-ups right next to me just to show off but uh but i didn't the uh the Colts never called me and asked me to kick. I put a good resume on tape there, kicking as an old man. They never asked me to come try out, so I was a little upset about that as well. Yeah, that's pretty disrespectful, and I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:04:37 You probably should make a phone call about that. I just did. I just sent it out into the universe. We'll see what happens. Whenever you were hitting the ball in Oakland in warm-ups, they showed you right before you went out to kick that 25-yarder, and you had this look on your face, and it seemed as if you kind of realized what was about to happen.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Was there any thoughts going out to that kick that you're about to walk into a place that no man has ever been, amount of points that no man will ever go in the NFL. Did you realize the, because when you do that snow kick, right, you have no idea in the moment that that's going to be the biggest kick in NFL history. When you hit the game winners in the Super Bowl, yes, you know those are big kicks, but going out there, you have no idea how big it's going to be. For this particular 25-yarder going out on the field,
Starting point is 00:05:26 you had to have known how big this is for the history of football. Was there any thoughts going out there? Well, you know, obviously over the last year as the points get closer and the media talks about it a little bit more, I mean, I knew where we were at point-wise. I knew that this game we needed five points, and all of a sudden we get an extra point and a field goal. You know, it was kind of one of those situations that obviously
Starting point is 00:05:51 I knew the next points that we had were going to be potentially the one that breaks the record. Yeah, you know, I don't want to say it was anticlimactic by any means going out there right before halftime and we're down by four. But, you know, it was a cool moment it was it was unbelievable to have um all my teammates out there you know giving me some love and showing that you know it would have been unbelievable if you would have been there too buddy you and i did a lot of those points together as well but um i you know i think at the moment it was like I was trying just to say, hey, this is, we're in the middle of the game. It's just some points. Let's go. But at the
Starting point is 00:06:30 end of the game, when we called it up at the end and Frank handed me a game ball and all the guys were around, I mean, that was a really, really special moment. And I think I'll probably be able to appreciate it a lot more when I sit back and think about it more. You know, it was, I don't know, it's one of those situations where I never thought I'd play this long. I never thought I'd have an opportunity to. I remember playing against Morton in 2007, I believe, and that was his last year. And I was thinking, man, this guy, exactly what you all said to me.
Starting point is 00:06:59 This guy is so old and his number is so big that there's no way anybody's going to get there but you know the last couple of years as we slowly chipped away at it kept going at it you know you know the thought became close to reality and it's it's amazing my wife and i even last night we just sat there and talked about it when i got home and she said you know we we we saw that number and you said adam you know let's let's make a run for it. And these years and years and years together just kind of came to that moment and pretty special to sit there. And it's a weird feeling when you go, nobody in the history of the NFL has kicked more points than that.
Starting point is 00:07:38 It's a weird feeling because then you sit there and go, really? I mean, like, let's keep going. You know, I don't know. It's just different, you know? Yeah, I completely understand. What did you do after the game? Did you and the lady have some wine, maybe some beers, or did your kids just beat the hell out of you afterwards?
Starting point is 00:07:54 You know, this is how special my family is. After the game, they went and made a bunch of signs and decorated the house and did a bunch of stuff. So at about 2 o'clock in the morning when I get home, my wife hears the car come in and she gets all the kids up, so they're all there when I got there. And, hey, Dad, congratulations. It was a wild moment.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It was pretty special, you know, just being able to, even though it's 2 o'clock in the morning and they should be sleeping, they've got school tomorrow for them to come and give me a big hug. It just shows the commitment that not only, I mean, obviously as a football player you know what you have to do, but the commitment that your family goes through as well over all these years to support and do all that stuff as well was a pretty awesome thing. Was there any thought right after you kicked that ball,
Starting point is 00:08:46 take the cleats off, tell everybody to suck it, and walk right out of the stadium? Not at that moment, not for sure, because we were in a pretty good battle at that point. We needed all the juice that we could to get through that game. But, no, you know, it's funny. People have always said that. And, hey, yeah, you just walk off the field that game but uh no you know it's funny we people have always said that and hey yeah you just walk off the field and haha you know it'd be a hilarious moment but
Starting point is 00:09:10 that's not my style you know i i'm hoping that we can keep uh keep putting some more points on that like you said and make that make that number untouchable to anybody else hopefully i always said that you should do that you said people try to be the nice guy I always said as soon as you get that God damn record as soon as that ball Goes through the uprights I'd take my cleats off Shoulder pads off I'd be telling everybody To go ahead and suck one I'm going to get out of here I always said you should have done it
Starting point is 00:09:35 But you're a man of class You're a man of class Morton Anderson recorded a message and sent it to you I don't know if you saw it he was wearing his Gold jacket from a golf course basically Saying can't wait to see you in Canton. Have you and him talked at all leading up to this whole thing? I haven't. No. I know that at one point, if we were going to break it at home, he was going to plan on coming to Indianapolis, but that obviously didn't happen because of the situation,
Starting point is 00:10:06 and I have not talked to him yet, but I think the last time I obviously congratulated him when he got into the hall, and he got a huge respect for what he did for the league and how he set the bar so high for all kickers, and as
Starting point is 00:10:22 a kid growing up, I tried to... I mean, he was one of my heroes for sure. So, you know, the fact that he sent that note, which he didn't have to do, but that was pretty awesome and with, you know, a lot of respect for him. All right, man. There was times in college when you sucked at kicking footballs. There was times in college when you sucked at kicking footballs. There was times in Amsterdam I'm sure you sucked at kicking footballs. There was times in New England where I'm sure you sucked at kicking footballs.
Starting point is 00:10:55 There was games in Indianapolis where you probably thought you were never going to be able to come back from. What is the biggest takeaway from your career now that you are the undisputed greatest kicker of all time? What are some messages you think that younger players should take from your career? Well, just like you said, I think a small-town kid from South Dakota
Starting point is 00:11:16 that can be on the top of the scoring board now, in my mind, it shows that anybody can do anything that they want to if they have the will and the determination to do. Honestly, for me, I never thought I'd play this long, but I think the most important thing is staying focused and keeping your mind on the goal and just working your ass off and keep doing everything that you can to be the best that you can. And then I guess at that point, wherever you end up,
Starting point is 00:11:46 you can look yourself in the mirror and say, hey, I did everything I could. I always tell my son, I said, obviously you do it for the emblem on your helmet, but you're also doing it for the name on your back and on the back of your jersey. You know, whatever you're going to do, do the best that you can at whatever it is, and you'll always be proud of yourself. So for me, you know, I just think that was the longevity is probably the thing that I'm the most proud of, more so than any particular kick, just the ability to be able to year in and year out,
Starting point is 00:12:21 compete with all the young guys and to compete with with uh guys that are always trying to take my job and and uh still still be going at it to me i think it's probably one of the most in my my personal goal i think well i'll tell you what you watching three bums kick outside and decide that you're gonna fucking push through a groin injury is just a a staple of your competitiveness you are a legend uh all these years you're about to pick up your 401k like two years from now checks don't bounce cuz keep it moving you're the absolute man appreciate you buddy thank you congrats man this is pretty awesome i hope you really enjoy this no i love it um hey conti vinny i appreciate you guys so much hey conti why'd you let three man hey conti you know if you didn't have if you didn't have those three
Starting point is 00:13:12 bums come kick outside and right in vinny's face vinny never breaks the points record i think you should feel good about that you know it was great as soon as that day happened, he walked past our office and he goes, hey, I'm fucking kicking on Sunday. It was great. I was so pumped. I was so pumped. I was like, let's go. Yeah, it was great. All right, have a good one.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I appreciate you, Conti. No problem, buddy. Take care, bud. Hey, Vinny, thank you, buddy. I'll go. Bye, bud. Yep, see you. That's hysterical. Absolutely hysterical.
Starting point is 00:13:44 My favorite Vinatieri story, I don't think I've ever. Yep. See, yep. That's hysterical. Absolutely hysterical. My favorite Vinatieri story. I don't think I've ever told it. I think the newspaper, local newspaper might have wrote about it here in the last, cause I told them about it. My favorite Vinatieri story was from my rookie year. We were undefeated. Vinatieri was not kicking for numerous weeks because he had a hip surgery. I believe a knee surgery. He had like three surgeries that offseason. He was kind of dealing with some ailing things and they brought in Matt Stover. Okay. So Matt Stover's kicking and now it's like week 10, week 11. We're undefeated at this point. We're definitely going to make a playoff run. Bill Polian wanted to see if Vinatieri's hip and knee was healthy. Okay. For the playoffs. Because if you're going to get in the playoffs, there's only one kicker you want in the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:14:26 and that's Adam Vinatieri. So Vinny and Aaron Burrell, the guy he gave credit to for getting his groin back together, were working every single day to get Vinny back healthy enough to kick. Matt Stover fills in for like seven weeks there, kicking well, whatever it is. Vinny, though, just working, working. He's at every single practice.
Starting point is 00:14:43 They didn't put him on IR. Everybody was wondering why they're not putting Vinny on IR he's taking up a roster spot but we're undefeated so it's not that big of a deal it's all because in the playoffs you want Adam Vinatieri kicking balls for you that's what you want so he's not on IR he's not on IR week 10 maybe week 11 or 12 something like that Vinatieri is now healthy enough to kick balls he had been kicking by himself with aaron burrow away from the team now they want to see if vinny can kick with the team let's see if he's back for full thing so our special teams coach name was ray richleski a guy that was in way over his head he comes in to the special teams meeting which happens every single day every single morning he comes in he goes uh today we are going to have uh two kickers out
Starting point is 00:15:27 there uh it's not a competition it's not a competition matt stover who's our starting kicker and has been doing a great job matt you've been doing a great job he will kick first from the spot then adam vinatieri will come and kick from the same spot we'll do that for 10 spots it's not a competition. And everybody looks around like, this sounds like a fucking competition, right? And I'm a person who's been to kicking camps before. This is exactly how a kicking competition works,
Starting point is 00:15:55 is this spot, you go, I go. You go, I go. Stover goes first. So that meeting ends, and everybody's like, okay, Vinny's back. Vinny was very much loved by the team. Matt Stover was kind of the reason why the kicking stereotype is the kicking stereotype kind of off by himself kind of a nerd kind of flaky he was a nice guy to me very nice guy to be but very much
Starting point is 00:16:14 he and i would never hang out ever okay so everybody's like oh vinny's back everybody's excited like vinitary's back here we go so we're walking out to the practice and justin snow who's a long snapper looks at me goes why are you so relaxed i was like oh this is awesome bro the two greatest kickers of this generation are about to have a kicking contest he said yeah and you're right in the fucking middle of it have you thought about that oh no i haven't he's like yeah one bad snap for me one bad hold from you we're fucking over a legend quickly i was like oh why are you so negative why are you putting that in my head right now, Justin? So he's like, well, that's something to think about. I was like,
Starting point is 00:16:47 no, I don't want to think about that. I just want to think about, hey, I'm right in the middle of this, right? So then we get out there for the field goal period. It's the first fucking period of the day, okay? They hit the horn field goal. We got Bill Polian standing right behind us, the entire scouting department. This is not normal. The entire scouting department's behind us. All the coaches are standing behind us. Normally, there's like little off meetings happening while field goal period's happening. Not today. Reggie Wayne, Peyton Manning, the entire offense, it's like a half moon surrounding the field
Starting point is 00:17:17 goal operation, okay? So then I start looking around and I look at Stone. So I was like, see, this is the fucking night. Everybody's going to see this. I'm like, oh, this is awesome, right awesome right so the first one matt stover's up and i've told the story about how matt stover kicked matt stover has a full conversation with matt stover before every single kick like one two three one two three come on matt for jesus for jesus and then he kicks it through it was a 20 yard extra point was the first kick matt stover
Starting point is 00:17:42 kicks it through nothing from the crowd okay everybody in the colts organizations i think jim mercy was even on a golf cart sitting right there watching so then vinitary steps up and this is the first time anybody on the team had seen vinitary kick for probably three months so snap hold vinny kicks it you hear like reggie wayne was like okay so that kind of like opened the gates for like everybody's like all right we're allowed to pick sides here we're allowed to pick sides here. We're allowed to pick sides here. So Stover goes for the next kick. It's like a 27-yarder probably on the left hash.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Tongue off the upright. It's like, ooh! So Vinny steps up, and you hear like a, let's go! Vinny, bang, right through the center. Now there's starting to be like a little bit of an applause from the group. You even hear like Bill Pullian be like, we got the son of a bitch back. Everybody's excited. Matt Stover goes on to go i think you want four for ten or three for ten vinatieri goes ten for ten okay this is why adam vinatieri is adam vinatieri goes ten for ten the entire place is like vinny's back this is our motherfucking guy vinny goes into the the
Starting point is 00:18:43 training room after that his shit's hurting though because we went from like 50 I think we went from like 55 maybe to end it Stover missed obviously Vinatieri makes it goes in the training room though his hip is fucking killing him and he's like Bill Pullian talks to him how are you doing he's like I'm hurting but I think I'm okay you know I think I can get through it
Starting point is 00:19:00 Matt Stover though went into Pullian's office like I ain't doing this shit anymore no no no you are not sending me out there in front of the whole team to compete with Adam through it matt stover though went into polly's office like i ain't doing this shit anymore no no no you are not sending me out there in front of the whole team to compete with adam vinatieri every day i don't know how the conversation went with polly and i don't know exactly how it went but if i had to guess it would be like i ain't fucking losing to vinatieri every single goddamn day it's either him or me is what stover said it's either him or me, him or me. And since Vinatieri's hip was hurting and knee was hurting, we went with Stover for the rest of the trip.
Starting point is 00:19:29 52-yard field goal, I think third or fourth quarter in the Super Bowl. Stover misses it. Saints go score. If that's Vinatieri, probably makes it, probably wins the Super Bowl. We probably keep it moving. But instead, it was a situation that happened in practice that nobody heard about and it is the reason why Adam Vinatieri is Adam Vinatieri that little story he told about the three guys working outside and him fucking just basically ready to run through a wall
Starting point is 00:19:55 that's what Adam Vinatieri is when I got to the Colts I have a huge leg bigger leg than any human probably ever come in the NFL just had a fucking fucking monster. I mean, I kick a soccer ball 120-some miles an hour, just the way it goes. I was kicking on the same day as Vinatieri, and I went like five yards behind him, which is always my move. It's a fun little game I play. People kick, I go five yards behind them.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I kick, same thing, same thing. Even if I'm not putting it in, I just want them to hear the go past their head, like this motherfucker. So I did to Vinatieri,itary first day i go back to 60 he walks that thing right back next to me i go to 65 he walks that thing right back next to me i go back to 70 he walks that thing right back next to me they're like no you can't fucking vinny you're gonna blow your goddamn hip and it was from that day forward we never kicked on the same day ever ever. Because I was just hoping that I would.
Starting point is 00:20:45 We were trying to save Adam from himself and also save me from being an asshole and fucking him over. Vinatieri is the most competitive human in the history of sports. Nobody will ever recognize that because he's just a kicker. But that man will do anything, and I mean anything, to make sure he's at an elite level. And that Matt Stover- adam venetary situation is by far my favorite situation all the time snow just freaking out and me in the middle just like
Starting point is 00:21:12 oh this is pretty cool look at this oh you two battling okay and then for me stover likes the ball held very different than venetary did right so it's two different holds not that that really means much to the common person but to a holding kick situation you give somebody a bad hold it's a guaranteed miss i can miss a kick for anybody anytime i want as a holder you can miss a kick anytime you want for anybody so that i didn't really think about that until snow like was starting to put it in my head like hey you can fuck this up for a legend i'm like oh but then well after stover's first miss i like looked at him i was like was that my fault and he was like for a legend i'm like oh but then well after stover's first miss i like looked at him i was like was that my fault and he was like no no no i'm like okay good yeah
Starting point is 00:21:48 i didn't think so i don't think so either awesome moment very proud of adam vinatieri man very very proud of him i do think i put the i don't want to say i put it in his in his ear he mentioned it in the interview but i mentioned the points record to him i was like i think i'll get this and i think he's just been a guy that that number once it gets in his head because in his head he thinks all morton anderson's a better kicker than me if morton anderson has that record he's a better kicker than me and then there it is no sleeping this is matt you might as well be matt stover in this situation he's going right to the fucking top whether you like it or not and that's why venetario will be a hall of famer very thankful he joined us man what a cool guy where you're betting at is just as
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Starting point is 00:27:20 Diggs, you had an incredible party this weekend. I'm sorry I couldn't make it. It's okay. I did, and your resurgence of costumes is strictly, I think, due to Instagram. And it's literally the Super Bowl for Instagram models. It's the Super Bowl for them. It's a lot of pressure now because
Starting point is 00:27:34 you know your picture's going to be blasted everywhere. And judged. It's not just going to be blasted. It's going to be blasted and judged. Diggs had a party this weekend. Everybody was there. I couldn't make it because Block Dad had a gig. I saw that. That was insane. I had to go to
Starting point is 00:27:49 Block Dad's gig. You and Sam look good, though. Those were some good costumes. Appreciate that. Shout out to the Colts. I stole that mask from them, and now that'll probably be my everyday costume if I ever want to go out in Indianapolis. It was awesome. I broke a sweat early, though, with that mask and it
Starting point is 00:28:05 was a rough night because my dad did a gig in this little seedy bar it was like uh sounded good by the way though i didn't know he was part of the band my dad crushed my dad riders on the storm you know because when a rider called in from south dakota remember that my dad crushed it and i've been listening to him sing that song in a car now for a long long long time i was raped into listening to that my entire life basically and then on saturday night his my dad was supposed to be a musician well he was supposed to be a stuntman and then he had a seal and well he was supposed to be a stuntman first uh-huh decided not to due to my brother being in my mom's stomach so he was supposed to go to hollywood whenever he was 18 and he was going to go become a stuntman he's like i'm dumb
Starting point is 00:28:53 i'm athletic i'll do whatever you need to do he accidentally impregnates sally mcafee i don't know if it was i don't want to call my brother an accident but let's assume when they're 18 19 years old having a kid with no real stable foundation that was an accident so then he can't go there so then he's like you know what i'll join the military i'll be a navy seal my dad takes the test to become a uh join the navy his hearing was too good too good they thought he was crazy they didn't let him in my dad had the headphones on there's an ear test a classic ear test everybody gets in a physical where you hear like a sound and you're supposed to raise if it's in your right ear you're supposed to raise your right hand if it's in your left ear you're supposed to raise your left hand my dad was raising like his right hand and then his right hand again in his left
Starting point is 00:29:36 hand like at it and they were like sir there's no sound coming my dad's like no no no i heard i heard the sound they're like no no no sir i'm. I heard the sound. They're like, no, no, no, sir. I'm sorry. You failed the test. So my dad failed the physical, actually, to get into the military. Finds out 10 years later, he has this acute hearing superpower. He was hearing the sound in the fuckers next to him. The headphones in the guy next to him. He would have been the greatest spy of all time. Of all time.
Starting point is 00:29:59 He would have been here to every conversation. Just like in those QVC, those ear things you put in. I saw it at Walgreens last night. I almost pulled the trigger. Oh, you should have. Oh, dude, I go to that As Seen on TV section of Walgreens every single time I walk in there. Brett Favre lives in there. I mean, that is Brett Favre.
Starting point is 00:30:15 The copper thing is everywhere. And I can't say that I haven't purchased all of them. I'm like, well, Brett Favre, that guy took a lot of beatings, took a lot of pills, drank a lot of alcohol. If he's feeling good with this fucking thing, that has to help me out. But it doesn't. By the way, it's all a bunch of bullshit. That's neither here nor there. So I got the ear thing one time.
Starting point is 00:30:33 It didn't work, though. It's not just like a megaphone thing. It doesn't work. But my dad was supposed to be a musician. Loves music. But he'd always just started working. Then he became a truck driver right after that. He's always worked, worked, worked, worked, worked.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And now that he lives out here with my mom and they have their little business blossoming, he's become a full-time musician basically. And it's much to the chagrin of my mother because my mom has to deal with him practicing the guitar as if he was a teenager in the living room. All he does is play all the time, and he's a big-time singer. And he started going to this one guy uh for like lessons you know because my mom was like if i have to
Starting point is 00:31:09 listen to this at least get fucking better so sally sends him to this guy who's giving him like guitar lessons he's learning how to play better and this guy has a band okay so my this guy my dad never asked i don't think and i don't think this guy ever expected but then as my dad never asked, I don't think, and I don't think this guy ever expected. But then as my dad continued to hang out, the band would have practice there, and my dad would be there, and I think my dad just kind of fell into the band. Just kind of fell into it. And every year he does one gig, and it's his Halloween party, and their whole thing was dead musicians was this Halloween party.
Starting point is 00:31:42 So my dad dressed up as Morrison. Morrison? Jim. Van Morrison? Jim. Jim Morrison. Jim. Jim. The Doors. The Doors. I don dad dressed up as Morrison. Morrison? Jim. Van Morrison? Jim. Jim Morrison. Jim. Jim. The Doors.
Starting point is 00:31:47 The Doors. I don't know who Van Morrison is. Brown Eyed Girl. Didn't do that one. But he could have. Yeah, it's in his range. It is in his range. He could have done that.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I'm surprised he didn't. I'm going to request it next year. Okay, good. So he did Jim Morrison, and he had chaps on. My dad was wearing brown leather chaps, wig. This is the same man, by the way, that is all chaps are. This is the same man that whenever he saw me get my ears pierced in high school, he didn't talk to me for two weeks.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Our house is literally 200 square feet. He refused to talk to me in our same house because I had ears pierced. He loves prints. That guy wears heels, makeup prince loves kiss they literally paint their loves morrison who's got this long hair wouldn't talk to me for two fucking weeks because i disrespected the family he said on saturday night he looked and sounded the part i was so proud i was losing my mind but i knew going into and this is this is not me sucking my own dick but i was rolling right into my demo there into that bar so i had to go in with a good costume and that
Starting point is 00:32:52 colts mask was just staring at me and i'm like i have to wear that fucking thing and then sam was like oh i could be an old lady i was like all right let's do it and she went in there and she started decorating her face drawing lines in there and we walked in, we walked right past my dad. He had no fucking idea. We walked right in, right past old Tim McAfee. He had no idea. And then whenever he saw me, he was like, oh, I should have fucking known.
Starting point is 00:33:16 This guy, you fucking, the kicker. You're the kicker. I was like, Dad, what's up, man? He was so happy we were there, because we weren't going to go. Then the mask came together. And we were going to go to my dad's gig and then come by your house. Concert was supposed to start at 9.
Starting point is 00:33:30 These fucking guys, they didn't start until like 10.30. It was like Kanye. It was really like it was fucking Kanye. I was sitting in this local bar just like hanging out, sweating. Like, yo, are we ever going to get to this? I'm sending my dad a text like,
Starting point is 00:33:42 when are you fucking singing? He's like, well, it's supposed to start 45 minutes he's like i'm new to the band it's like i'm new to the band i don't know in the green room the whole time there's yeah there was a back room they're putting their set list together i guess they're putting their set list together my dad's band things yeah my dad was a part of five songs so i was just trying to find out when his songs were so like hey i respect the band i respect the party here, but I am a homebody. This is like literally my nap night here. And then my dad comes out.
Starting point is 00:34:11 He sings the Riders on the Storm song. I guess he had two other songs after that, but I bounced. As soon as Riders on the Storm happened, I was out of there. But I was so proud of my dad. I was so proud of him. Can we have him do a music video? See what I'm... He gets so nervous. my dad. I was so proud of him. Can we have him do a music video? I had to see what he gets so nervous. My dad gets so nervous.
Starting point is 00:34:28 He was, I knew he was nervous too. So like there was a long time in my life where my dad never missed a single sporting event of mine. Even whenever I was in the NFL, he was traveling the cities to watch my games and I couldn't even see him because I'm in the hotel. And then all day I'm at the game and there's like a 20 minute period after the game where you go visit with your family.
Starting point is 00:34:45 My dad was at every single game. My mom is at every single game. And I was like, my dad's got a gig. Like this is something I gotta be at. You know, like I gotta be at this. And I get there and right beforehand after he knows it's me and Sam, obviously we're sitting in his section, the McAfee section. It was pretty hilarious.
Starting point is 00:35:02 They spelled her fucking name. But I'm sitting there with my mom, and I see my mom's getting a little nervous for him. This is a brand new thing for old block dad. So my mom orders this big-ass beer. I've never seen a beer this large. It was like a cartoon fucking beer. And I'm like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:35:20 She's like, I'm getting nervous. So my mom starts drinking it, and then all of a sudden I know where Jim Morrison comes around. He he slams the beer i'm like what the fuck are you he's like i gotta loosen up the vocal cords oh my god you oh you're a little nervous aren't you he's like i'm excited you know yeah and he got up there and just absolutely crushed it he had one he had one bad performer move he was singing in the band it was in between him singing and the band was playing yeah and he turned his back to the crowd. He wanted to show respect to the drummers and guitars.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I was like, you need to do the side, though. The side point. Because when you turn your back, it acts as if you don't like us. Like you're not appreciative of us. And he was like, I wanted people to know that I like the fuck what the drummer was doing. I was like, Dad, I was so proud of him. That's awesome. I sent him this big, long text about how proud of him I was. It was awesome.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I almost cried in that grandpa suit. I was videotaping the whole thing. I was videotaping the whole thing like a proud parent. At a ballet. Yeah, and there was this one part where I knew, because I watched The Voice. Yeah, yeah. And I watch all these talent shows.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And when people sing, you can tell if they're like holding back or not. Like you could tell. And there was this one part, Tim was letting her loose. And I was like, let's go! It was echoing through the whole fucking thing. It was like, I almost like cried. It was a really, really cool moment.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Your guys' costumes were incredible. Yeah, we had a really good time. We had like 50 people show up, which was not expected. It was a lot of people. Awesome party. Nick was making shots every 15 expected. It was a lot of people. Awesome party. Nick was making shots every 15 minutes. He was the leader of the drunk.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Well, I also saw Nick had no sling on either. I saw he was just tossing a shield around as if it was Achilles. I had my brace on. It was attached to his sling. It was perfect. Genius, by the way. Is that really what you did? You attached the shield to your sling?
Starting point is 00:37:04 Yeah, for a little bit, and then I got tired of the sling, so I took it off, and I started wearing the shoulder brace. It's a little less restrictive. Okay. Gives me a little more movement. So you were Brad Pitt Achilles. Yes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:14 It's an aggressive decision. He was quoting lines from the movie all night long. I saw that on the internet. I wasn't even there, and I heard that happening. That's awesome. Neighbors loved it. I bet. Neighbors loved it.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Yeah. I let them know I was there. All night long. I was on a mission. How are you and your neighbors? Dick's moved into a new place. Well, they hate him now. No, I only met the one and he came up to the fence in the middle of the party and was fishing for an invite. I was like, I don't know
Starting point is 00:37:36 you like that guy. But he was like, so the neighbor comes over. He's like, oh, it's a fun party. It looks like you guys are really having like a cool group. And I was like, yeah, yeah, sorry. We're going to tell you we're having a party. Just let you guys know. Like, just so you didn't get mad. He's like, oh, it's a fun party over here. He's like, it looks like you guys are really having a cool group. And I was like, yeah, yeah, sorry. We were going to tell you we were having a party just to let you guys know just so you didn't get mad. He's like, no, no, it's fine. I don't work until 3 p.m. tomorrow. I got a night shift tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Okay, cool. He's drinking a Coors Original. He's like, if you need any firewood, I can bring some over. And I was like, okay. He's the older guy. I wish he would have called the cops immediately. Right after Diggs doesn't invite him. Hey, you hear what the fucking asshole's next door? I just told him I could come, and he chose not to.
Starting point is 00:38:09 He's probably like 55. Oh, you should have let him come in and meet Coach. I loved it. Well, my dad was at the fence talking to him, too. So I saw Diggs' IG story. I was keeping up with the whole thing, because the plan was, like I said earlier, we're going to go to Block Dad's gig, watch him sing a couple songs, and then come right over to your party.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Surprise, we're here. This is going to be awesome. Nobody in the world would have expected us to show up at your party, by the way. Just like nobody expected it. Not even my parents expected me to show up at my dad's thing. So it was going to be like a bing, bang, boom. So I'm following along on the IG story. In the first one, I see is fucking Coach Diggs dressed up as himself.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Dressed as himself. He dressed as Coach Diggs. He got a Coors Light shirt, so he had a Coors Light sponsor, and then he had engraved Coach Diggs on the top left and an Italian-American flag on the top right. I want to let you know, this almost changed my entire night. It almost changed everything. I almost came and started drinking.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I'm on a keto diet. I got a lot going on. But if Coach Diggs is dressing up as Coach Diggs, I am fucking all in. It was so awesome. The classic Coach shorts. He kept blowing a whistle all night. I just wanted to line up and run sprints.
Starting point is 00:39:13 He had a couple huddles going through. Yeah, three times he called the party in and gave a speech. How did I miss it? It was awesome. I am so angry that I missed that. We need to do something with Coach Diggs. I know. What does he do?
Starting point is 00:39:26 Is he still working? He runs the water authority for Plumboro. So Italian. Just runs all the water. You don't pay your meter. He shows up at your fucking house. With a whistle. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Drop it. Give me 20. I want to send Coach Diggs on like a trip. I want to send him on a trip and just film it. The guy is the best. He's the most electric human I've ever seen in my life. He's just like a trip. I want to send him on a trip and just film it. The guy is the best. He's the most electric human I've ever seen in my life. He's just like your dad. He's always him.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Always on. Always on. I fucking love him. I was with him for the golf tournament that one time. Oh, yeah. You guys played together. That was the fun. With Block Dead and Coach.
Starting point is 00:39:57 He was the greatest thing. Them coaching me the whole time. The four downs of golf. Maybe a better golfer, though, to be honest. Todd, you were drawn from Georgia. Yeah. Genius. Absolutely genius.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Did you talk like him all night, too? I did when I first walked in. Because other people didn't know, so I had a name tag that said John. And I was like, well, only the people that know are going to know. So I made Marnie wear a name tag that said whore. Who would John bring? He tag that said whore. Who would John bring? He would bring a whore. I'm very excited that you guys followed through with Marnie just wearing a whore name tag.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I kept going to the iPad trying to play Haggard. Play me some fucking Haggard on the way out. That's love. Foxy was a great Mason Ramsey. Dude, unbelievable. Internet enjoyed it. It was easy to put together, too. Did Mason help you get laid?
Starting point is 00:40:46 So listen to this, guys. Sunday morning, I'm still asleep. Boom, phone ringing. This is what wakes me up. Pat McAfee FaceTime. He goes, hey. I'm like, what's up? He goes, did Mason Ramsey help you get laid?
Starting point is 00:41:01 And I start laughing. I'm laughing. Then he starts yelling into the phone, anybody in there? Anybody in there? And I'm like, no, no one's in here. It's just me. You just woke me up. What else was in your bed?
Starting point is 00:41:14 Because he was in his bed. He was in his bed. It was very dark. So I was like, I didn't know if he was lying to me because he has to answer when I call. Literally has to answer. I'm in a fun situation where people have to answer when I call. So no matter what I want to do, he has to answer when I call. Literally has to answer. I'm in a fun situation where people have to answer when I call. So no matter what I want to do, you have to answer. And it's pitch black.
Starting point is 00:41:30 He seems so tired. He's out of his dechamber. I was rattled. It's already like 1030 by this point. It's halftime of the Jacksonville game. We were up. Already up. So I'm like, I'm calling over there. It's pitch black. And I'm like, maybe Foxy has somebody in there. So I literally start screaming into FaceTime. Is anybody else in there. So I literally start screaming into FaceTime,
Starting point is 00:41:47 is there anybody else in there? Show yourself. Let me hear it. I was hoping I'd hear somebody, like a little chuckle in the background, and I would have fucking lost my shit. I would have been like, Mason Ramsey is bringing Evan Fox out of this five-month drought.
Starting point is 00:42:00 This dude, Lil Hank, is a legend. Lil Hank can't even do that. There was something. What was in your bed? Yeah, I had a half-eaten piece of pizza in there. So, without a point, that's where the night ended. That's Mason Ramsey's future. You should have grabbed some, like, meth, maybe.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Just like a bottle of Jack laying with me. That was an incredible costume. Thank you. My alarm went off at 9.28 on Sunday morning. My girlfriend was like, what the fuck is your alarm going off for? I was like, it's football day, baby. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:42:24 We got a London game. We are in London. Are you kidding me? Ty, what did fuck is your alarm going off for? I was like, it's football day, baby. Let's go. We got a London game. We are in London. Are you kidding me? Ty, what'd you do this week? Anything? Well, I went. I showed up a little late, so I didn't get the Instagram picture and everything. Now, by the way, that's kind of a new thing, by the way.
Starting point is 00:42:39 If you show up past the social media blast time. We did it as soon as everyone got there. Yeah, you kind of miss out on everything. I would never have known you were there. Yeah, I mean, I had to get caught up, too, so quick. Because if you get there an hour late, everyone's kind of already pretty well oiled. And I was like, all right, well, this kind of sucks if I'm the only person who's not boozed up here. So, you know, you just have to start hammering the shots quick.
Starting point is 00:43:00 But, no, it was a fun night. You're kind of gottish. He was a fire chief, and he had an incredible fire chief mustache. Oh, yeah. I mean, the original idea was I was going to go as Matthew McConaughey from True Detective. Of course. My girlfriend didn't want to go as a dead, naked hooker. So what's her deal?
Starting point is 00:43:20 Hey, what's her deal? So we ended up going back to the mall, The Spirit, and we were in there for two hours on Saturday. Yeah, we saw Evan. I saw Ty in there. He was miserable, dude. Eventually, I was just like, listen, I don't care what we fucking go as. Yeah. An hour in, I was like, all right, I need a timeout.
Starting point is 00:43:37 I'm about to kill someone in here. What was the runner-up? There was no runner-up. I was just like, I don't care. Just fucking pick something and I'll wear it. It doesn't matter. But I was very impressed. Diggs has got a very humble abode.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Nice house. Next day, I was going to leave at noon. Nick's keys were still in the front door. Achilles. Yeah, it was a bit of a runaway. Achilles had a little bit of a runaway. The shots, man. It was a great party, except for one of our buddies threw up in my bathroom sink
Starting point is 00:44:05 and clogged it for a day and a half. Who? Oh, boy. Reggie. Oh, Reggie. Reggie was hurting. That's Pittsburgh Zito. Yeah, that's Pittsburgh Zito.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I wish Frat would have done it. Him as Barb was phenomenal. Oh, my God. I'm very upset that I missed it. Now, granted, by the time if we were, the thought was, because we left
Starting point is 00:44:23 Block Dad's gig at midnight. It was like 1130 or midnight. Yeah, we were. You guys would have been gone by then. Yeah, round one was when people left. Well, no, I'm talking about gone. No, no, I mean like it was pretty much, yeah. Yeah, but in my head, I'm talking like humans.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Because I was watching IG stories and I was like, I don't know if we roll in there right now. I don't know if we roll in there right now. I don't know if now's the time. I love the fact, though, that old John from Georgia and his whore girlfriend took you guys, what, seven minutes to find your costumes? Ty is a fireman. Beautiful. Obviously, Gator was there as well. Gator, did you have a good time? What were you dressed up as?
Starting point is 00:45:05 So I went as the quickest shot in the West. So I was a cowboy with two holsters of Jim Beam on me at all times. I didn't even get into the Jim Beam because I was succumbed to the shots that report every 15 minutes. And then I made a nice Irish goodbye at like 10.15. That was a good move. That's a great move. The Irish goodbye is a good move.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I love that move. I was trying the entire time to figure out how I could do it at my own party. Just gotta go to sleep. But then you gotta worry about everything else happening at your house still.
Starting point is 00:45:33 You just gotta call the police on yourself. That's the only way you do it. Act like you're the neighbor. Hey man, there's a fucking problem. Some asshole's yelling Hector every fucking 10 minutes. Who owns the house?
Starting point is 00:45:45 Some dickhead with a fucking beard and his dad's wearing short shorts with his name on it. Talk to the dad. Wow, that conversation's incredible. We were really doing it today, weren't we? You listeners are so, so lucky you get to listen to the dumbass who's speaking to a microphone. And if it makes you sick, maybe you want to shit, there's only one way to make your shit better, and that's by getting a bidet.
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Starting point is 00:49:21 off by the way quick recommendation i did watch a cartoon movie last night in between the 4 o'clock games and the late game. Coco. Good movie. Oh. Smallfoot. Also good. There you go. A couple recommendations.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Ferdinand. Another banger. Yep. Things to think about. Speaking of things to think about, here's a thought-provoking conversation from earlier. Oh, we had two people make an appearance at TwitchCon I'm truly jet lagged I know what it means now
Starting point is 00:49:48 Yeah you guys were TwitchConning people And thinking you're gamers The thought of Every time I saw you guys You guys were just drinking This was just a nerd This was a nerd party in California They get donned
Starting point is 00:50:03 They get donned over there for sure. I mean, first of all, I walked into this second party on Saturday, and I looked around. A lot of lines. First of all, it was LineCon. I'm serious. It was terrible. A lot of lines in the video.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Can we talk about TwitchCon? Can we talk about TwitchCon? Yeah, yeah. So what is it twitch con is this thing in california where everybody who is a partner with twitch so it's affiliates community and partner yeah so it's like everyone that's involved with twitch okay so you guys get invited they don't pay for it though we had to pay for it which is very interesting isn't it yeah oh yeah we build your site all the partners build their site
Starting point is 00:50:45 and we have to pay to go hang out that would be nice wouldn't it granted we're pretty small fish in the whole twitch pond for now
Starting point is 00:50:53 for now not anymore so you guys fly out to San Jose on Friday and I followed along on Zito's IG story it was basically him
Starting point is 00:51:01 just drinking in different places the entire time yeah so I was tracking my inner Vince Vaughn. So you just got to be extra loose at all times. Internship. Yes. Now we're saving lives.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Okay, let's talk to Connor. Started in a blender. Okay, so you guys go over there. We go over there, yeah. First time in California. First time. Did you enjoy it? It's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Loved the landscape. It was good to see hills again. Yeah, yeah. In the grasslands of Indiana, they've treated me well, but it's nice to see a little mountain here and there, you know? It is. The Flatlanders don't fully understand that whatever you can't see in front of you or around something, it's not a bad feeling.
Starting point is 00:51:38 It's actually a pretty interesting feeling of living. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. So you guys go to San Jose. Is there any Twitch meetups? Did you guys play video games? Was anybody notable? Like, anything happen?
Starting point is 00:51:47 Or was it just strictly the IG story of you guys drinking in different places with Twitch t-shirts? No, no, no, no, no. We weren't just drinking. We weren't just drinking, okay? We were shaking hands, kissing babies. With the bartenders. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:52:01 These bartenders were terrible, first of all. Pull out of your pocket. Yes, this morning he came and I said, what did you do there? Oh, yeah. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. He's got like 100 business cards here. 100. We were mingling. Yeah, yeah. These bartenders were terrible, first of all. Pull out of your pocket. Yes, this morning he came and I said, what did you do there? Oh, yeah, hold on, hold on, hold on. He's got like 100 business cards here. 100. We were mingling.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Yeah, yeah, we were mingling. We got a bunch of guys that want to play some Fortnite with us, which I guess we'll get back into. So it's kind of like YouTube where you play on theirs, you play on... What is that? Look at all those business cards. This is a billion dollars right here. That's what this is right here. 100 million. 100 billion dollars right here that's what this is right here 100 million 100
Starting point is 00:52:26 million dollars right here yeah no we got some good stuff we actually uh one of the guys one of the cooler guys i think uh ice prime his name was he's got he's he's a nice guy from uh colorado he invented he was the first person uh to do a dab on his stream on yeah first streamer to ever dab on a live stream. Three weeks ago. Man, y'all fucking Twitch people. We're meeting pioneers. That guy's a pioneer.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Tell you what, you Google Ice Prime and Ice Prime Twitch is the first thing that pops up. What's going on? I hope so. What else is it going to be? The fucking international seizure of the drug people? I don't know. So you guys shook a lot of hands. You played some video games.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Oh, yeah, yeah. How's our Twitch stream looking? Are we going to be up? It looks good because we actually did the panel portion as well where you do all the nerd stuff and you learn
Starting point is 00:53:12 how to build your channel. Oh, I thought you guys were on a panel. I was like... No, next year. That's next year. That's next year. That's what we'll do next year.
Starting point is 00:53:19 So you guys ask questions at the panel or no? Yeah. So it was just one of those things. It was all the Amazon people working it and stuff like that. let me hear a question you asked well i i asked about the analytics how all that breaks down do you know anything about that though oh i learned now we do now we do now we do a lot yeah proud of our boys i am too it looks like you
Starting point is 00:53:37 guys went to a little boot camp it was actually like pretty interesting because i i kept every every person i had talked to i was like what am i supposed to do here because it was like i mean it's smart yeah i just want to know what they want it's your first time to, I was like, what am I supposed to do here? Because it was like. I mean, it's smart. Yeah, I just want to know what they want. Because it's your first time. Exactly, yeah. I was basically a virgin there, so I was trying to figure out how. Like, how do you make it worth it?
Starting point is 00:53:53 Exactly. And everyone had the same thing. By the way, we paid for the tickets. They won't be worth it. I know. Trust me. There is nothing they did this weekend. Great video coming out, though.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Unbelievable. Unbelievable. One of you two put up a picture on Instagram and our CEO Phil, our CFO, sorry, CFO Phil goes, and the caption was shaking hands and kissing babies and Phil's comment was
Starting point is 00:54:12 I'm going to need the names of every single hand and baby that you shook to make sure that it was worth it. Because Zito knew he wanted to go to TwitchCon like two, three months ago. Didn't decide to buy
Starting point is 00:54:23 the airplane tickets until two days before TwitchCon. Which greatly increases months ago. Didn't decide to buy the airplane tickets until two days before TwitchCon. Which greatly increases the price. Oh, just a little bit. Yeah, just a little bit. I thought it was the opposite where like there's
Starting point is 00:54:32 tickets laying around and it's cheaper. Super Bowl that happens sometimes. Like the sporting events, yeah. Yeah, Super Bowl that happens sometimes. But airplane tickets, it seems is not the case.
Starting point is 00:54:41 It's a learning lesson. Oh, actually, real funny thing. So on the way back with Delta Airlines, there is a premier internet you can use. That's above the other. Oh, actually, real funny thing. So on the way back with Delta Airlines, there is a premier internet you can use. That's above
Starting point is 00:54:47 the other internets. Just to fuck out of here. So honestly, too, back to Twitchagon, there were some pompous people there, too. Oh, not all. Hey, not all gamers
Starting point is 00:54:56 are friendly. Arrogant. This one guy referred to us. He was explaining. I don't know how we started talking to this guy.
Starting point is 00:55:03 But this guy, somehow he's talking about battle star superhero galactica something something something not even i know about and i consider myself pretty well versed in the gaming universe we're walking away hey have a good night whatever like enjoy your night have fun turns to his buddy oh yeah no i was just talking to these fucking nerds over there as we're walking away. As we're walking away. This guy was the biggest nerd, too. Oh, it was bad. Right hook mode right after that.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Yeah, Line Con was over from then on for me. I was just walking right up to the corner of the bar. Four Jack and Cokes every time. I was ready to throw fists at somebody. Well, at those, I went to a couple of sales conventions in my day. You know, your schmoozing doesn't go on in the convention. It goes on at the bar later where everyone's a little looser. You meet people, they open up.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Yeah, that's when we met our good friend now, Ice Prime. Oh, okay. Ice with a one, sorry. He's a good guy, too. Once Prime? So it's Ice. Yeah, Once Prime. Ice Prime. Dual meaning. Weiss. dull meaning waste wait once he's a pioneer you guys would say this was a good trip though absolutely yeah i think we're the twitch
Starting point is 00:56:12 stream's gonna grow tenfold it has to yeah yeah i agree but i mean also there's one thing where they uh there's there's companies that are wanting to sponsor people. So you apply, and then you stream a certain game for an hour, right? You got trapped in this one. And then you get like $250. Oh. Yeah. And then right into your account. Oh, that's easy.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Yeah, yeah. It's easy. We're going to do a lot. We're going to start raking in cash. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what I heard. Remember that, Foxy? $100 million.
Starting point is 00:56:43 $100 million. $100 million. Hey, we finally met half of them. Hey, congratulations. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what I heard. Remember that, Foxy? 100 million. 100 million. Hey, we finally met half of them. Hey, congratulations. Very happy for you guys. Very, very happy for you guys. How's Boston feel? You guys want to fuck monsters? Oh, man. I'm still on cloud nine right now. Landed in LAX. Landed in LA.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Get off the flight. Socks win. I mean, I own LAX now. It's my airport. It is my airport. I was watching that. Yeah. It seems as if that LA team, I don't know how they got there.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I don't know how they got to the World Series. The NL wasn't great this year. No, it wasn't. I don't even know what that means, but that's the other side. Yeah, their whole league wasn't very good. It's basically the Eastern Conference for basketball. Or the AFC. It's the NL.
Starting point is 00:57:28 NL is Boston? No, that's Dodgers. AL is American League. Oh, you're saying not geographically the Eastern Conference. Correct, correct, correct. Competitive. Yes, yes, competitively. Okay, got it.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Because that Kershaw guy, they had him pitching until the 7th, and I didn't see if that was a good idea. I felt like he was getting peppered. He's one of the best pitchers in the game, but in the playoffs he just... Yeah, he's bad in the playoffs and game three really screwed up everything because it was an 18 inning game. It was two games in one night.
Starting point is 00:57:57 So, I mean, half of our pitchers were worn out. So that's why the starters were going much further. Like David Price went into the seventh too. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, but'm pretty sure. Yeah, but he was dealing. Yeah, he was. He was doing well. I always thought baseball was one of those things where it's your pitcher
Starting point is 00:58:11 versus the other team. That's exactly what baseball is. I mean, as a professional baseball player, I saw it quickly. There was nothing I could do on that field that saved us from the other team hitting seven home runs in one inning. There was nothing I could do. But if your guy's hot, you ride him, right? Don't you ride the hot hand?
Starting point is 00:58:27 Isn't that kind of just like blackjack, right? You ride the hot hand? And I felt like Price was hot. And Kershaw, I feel like he – I don't know. I don't know much about baseball. I don't know enough about baseball. But it felt like he was getting peppered. It's like, don't you have to at least try to roll the dice,
Starting point is 00:58:39 bring somebody new in here? Well, and they were saying, too, like his velocity was down. He wasn't throwing very hard. I mean, I guess the idea is that you ride the guy who got you there until the end if, you know, you're screwed because their bullpen's not that great. Bill Belichick would have pulled his ass. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Malcolm Butler. Take a seat, cuz. Don't even watch. Don't even have your eyes open during the National Anthem. I want you to cry the whole fucking time. That's what Bill Belichick did to Malcolm Butler. Yeah, and the Pats are next. I've warned this forthcoming a long time
Starting point is 00:59:07 ago. This could be the Boston sweep. I don't think so. 2018 to 2019, it could be. I don't think so. When I watched the football teams yesterday. By the way, congratulations to you, Red Sox. It's awesome. Yeah. It is really cool for you. I'm happy you have something to celebrate it for once. Yeah, yeah. So we're
Starting point is 00:59:23 running on fumes. It'll be more enjoyable tomorrow. It'd be really difficult for the Boston people to have something to celebrate it for once. Yeah, yeah. So we're running on fumes. It'll be more enjoyable tomorrow. It'd be really difficult for the Boston people to have something to celebrate. You guys deserve it. You've been through so much. It's been so long. It's been such a tough run for you guys sports-wise. It's really... 2017 is so long ago.
Starting point is 00:59:37 It is so humble. They're so humble about it. So humble. As you should be. I mean, brand new fucking manager to the first year there. Nobody could have known what to expect. I'll win the World Series. Best team in Red Sox history.
Starting point is 00:59:47 No big deal. Boston. What a fucking place. Yep. So easy to hate. Yeah. But you can understand why they act the way they do. Imagine if Indianapolis was just winning everything.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Yeah, we'd be cocky as fuck. Imagine the Pacers were the Golden State Warriors, and the Colts were the fucking Patriots, and somehow the Indianianapolis indians were now a professional baseball team and we were just dominating it'd be a lot of fun yeah it'd be a lot of fun i'd be cocky this town would burn i'd shit on other people yeah this time would burn out because the fans would be real fans again which would be wild because it is very easy to not be interested in a team that's very boring you know what i mean yeah it's very like victor
Starting point is 01:00:23 oladipo brought back a little bit of a spark for Pacer fans, but he's going to have to win some fucking games if they really want to make that place wild again. I understand why Boston people act the way they act. You have to. You have to understand. It's a good life. It's a good life. Get a good life.
Starting point is 01:00:39 But you know what they say. After the sun comes to rain. Yep, it does. And although you've been in this decade of Southern California sun. 18 years. Two decades of Southern California sun. There is a torrential fucking downpour coming at some point. It has to.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Dark comes after the sun. And then the sun comes after the darkest dawn. That's right. The brightest sun comes after the dark. Well, I don't like Southern California anyways. Yeah, but I'm talking about the metaphor of the weather. I know. It gets windy after the darkest dawn. That's right. The brightest sun comes after the darkest dawn. Well, I don't like Southern California anyways. Yeah, but I'm talking about the metaphor of the weather. I know. It gets windy after a calm day.
Starting point is 01:01:10 What's that? It gets windy after a calm day. Oh. November 17th, Nashville take a hike. I saw that commercial. You saw it? Yeah. It's November 17th.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I'm telling you, every time I see that commercial, I saw it? Yeah. It's November 17th. I'm telling you, every time I see that commercial, I just lose it. They're like, it's National Tech on Hike Day. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:01:31 what? The first time I saw it, I was like, man, every day's Take a Hike Day with Zito. We for sure have him
Starting point is 01:01:37 take a long hike on that. Oh, he's going to have to get kicked out of here all the way, maybe down to the library. Hold on, on trail maybe.
Starting point is 01:01:43 All the way back, possibly. November 17th is National Take a Hike Day. Yeah, I'm excited for you. I'm excited for you. But you were saying the Patriots aren't going to win because you were watching yesterday. Yes, NFL Sunday yesterday obviously started early in the morning.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Jaguars, that team's in a bad spot. They can't perform any better than they did in the first half, and they lose still. It makes no sense to me. The Eagles might be back. Who knows? It could be good for them. I enjoy the London games, though.
Starting point is 01:02:14 I do, too. I love waking up in the morning and having a game on. As a fan, I like it. As a player, I hate it. What time was it from West Coast? 6.30. It was 6.30. I don't understand how West Coast people watch TV.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Well, everything. They're behind everything. Everything. So at 8.30, do they go to bed? I don't understand. I think they do kind of go to bed afterwards. When I was out there for, what, three days? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:38 I felt like I was living behind. I was behind everything. And I actually sent an email. We had a marketing person. We were trying to get the growth out there. I said, I have no idea how these fucking people on the West Coast live. I feel like I'm three hours behind everything. They were in Santa Monica.
Starting point is 01:02:53 The people I was sending the email to basically told them you guys were living behind the times. They were also behind the times. I don't fully get it either. There's no way anybody woke up at 6 o'clock to watch Jack Weiss. No, not for the London games. But waking up at 10 a.m. for the 1 o'clock game at Eastern time is great.
Starting point is 01:03:10 I like brunch. I like getting brunch, getting beforehand. You put your bets in at 12, but at 12, most of the games are already done. I enjoy going to bed at a pretty decent hour. But over there, it feels like your schedule is you have to go to bed at like 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock. There's nothing on. Your day's over at 6. And you have to stay off the internet whenever any show's on at night.
Starting point is 01:03:31 That's the worst. So if you're a big Bull fan like myself, can't be on the internet because all you're going to do, they're going to tell you what happened in Bull. Wait, what? Yeah. They play it after? For some things. Like major networks.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Is this dumb? Like HBO You know how Game of Thrones Comes out at 9 Eastern? Yeah It comes out at 9 Eastern In the West Coast too 9 Western
Starting point is 01:03:51 9 Pacific Whatever that's what I mean 9 Pacific yeah Yeah But there is a thing like A lot of TV stations out there Have like an HBO West So they can watch that
Starting point is 01:03:59 Walking Dead That was a big thing with Walking Dead Because they would tell like spoilers Correct Okay I knew that So why did you say anything? We just stopped the whole conversation so that we could explain this to you. And then directly afterwards, you say, oh, yeah, I know that.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I just didn't want to feel left out. I said that because I didn't want to feel left out. You didn't want to feel left out of the conversation? Yeah. So you were doing that for the listeners that potentially didn't know. You're the voice of the people. Yeah, there it is. And then afterwards, you dumped them under the bus by saying, no, I didn't know that You're the voice of the people. Yeah, there it is. And then afterwards, you dump them under the bus
Starting point is 01:04:26 by saying, no, I didn't know that. They were stupid, though. I would never say that about them. Well, it seems like you kind of did. It seems like you kind of turned your back on your own people there. They had to take a hike today. Yeah, so I learned that, honestly,
Starting point is 01:04:39 because of the Kardashians. Oh, yeah. Because when the Kardashians were huge, Kris Jenner would be tweeting out like uh west coast people coming up in 20 minutes we're up i was like oh they they literally can't stay on they have to stay off the internet for all the spoilers it's a weird it's a weird place over there but the weather is beautiful weather is beautiful it's nice it's palm trees are cool i enjoy palm trees that london game though if as a player, it just fucks up everything. It literally fucks up everything.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Your entire system, your entire routine, everything has changed, but it's a cool experience, you know? So when I was in London, I got a chance to go speak on Regent Street, which is in the middle of London. So basically it's like London's Broadway, I guess. The NFL pays to shut it down so that there's an NFL festival, and they try to sell it to the world like whenever i was there colts went and spoke some jaguars went and spoke it was like a pep rally
Starting point is 01:05:31 cheerleaders blah blah blah blah blah and when i was there literally speaking on the stage i looked out and i saw some people i saw some people a few a few people and then we leave and i'm starting to check the internet and they're like, 500,000 people were there. I'm like, yo, unless they're counting every human that's on any street in London, I don't think there's 500,000 people there. But it's like a cool thing, because you're literally introducing a sport to people
Starting point is 01:05:58 that know nothing about it. It's just American sports is basically what they care about. The games are always sold out like if you when you see when you see the crowds and and they report how many people are at the game they're always sold out always because you got military people over there it's just a festival it's just like something to do more so than anything and i it you see people in baseball jerseys you see people in fucking soccer jerseys it's just american sports that's all they give a fuck about is like oh this is cool this is something interesting let's go watch the
Starting point is 01:06:30 american barbarians there's a lot of philly fans there like you could tell like during the game that's just a cheer it seemed like there was a lot of philly fans there oh i would assume uh the eagles fans are very loyal because you got a lot like your family works over in europe right your family works in europe i assume right? Your family works in Europe. I assume they make the trek to a game every once in a while. It's all the people who are either stationed abroad in Europe or maybe they work over there. They go. But then a lot of the locals come to just because they happen to pick up some fanhood of something.
Starting point is 01:06:59 I saw a lot of Kobe Bryant jerseys. Wrong sport. We get it. Maybe somebody knows somebody here. It's just, it's a wild, it's a very interesting thing. I don't enjoy much.
Starting point is 01:07:09 And those players going out on Friday night, by the way, and getting arrested for a 40-some-thousand-dollar bar tab, that's wild to me. That's wild.
Starting point is 01:07:17 It's absurd. We didn't do anything. We had a, now granted, we didn't win either. Yeah, yeah. Jaguars didn't win either. I bet against them immediately as soon as I saw that that happened.
Starting point is 01:07:27 I'm like, two days before the fucking game? Yeah. You're out. By the way, not just out. You were out with a $40,000 bar tab. That is not just an average time. No, that's a great time. That is a great time.
Starting point is 01:07:38 That is a great time. And they were like, oh, there's four other Jaguars there who didn't get arrested. They were big names. I'm like, oh, so all their big names. Why don't you go out there on Thursday or on Wednesday? I know, that's what I was just about to say. The Friday thing was very interesting to me. It's just so close.
Starting point is 01:07:51 And the Jaguars couldn't bench them because they didn't have enough people. They're like, we'll deal with this later. Later, after we, can we fly somebody in? We can't fly anybody in. There's no flights. We're fucked. We got to deal with these guys that were out until 2 a.m. with a $40,000 bar tab.
Starting point is 01:08:09 That's a college career's worth of partying in one night. Yes, that's exactly what that is. I'm assuming it was a rookie night, like it was a rookie hazing night or whatever, because not hazing. That's a trigger word. But anytime you do a rookie dinner or a rookie night out or whatever, the rookie has to pay for all the meals.
Starting point is 01:08:27 And normally those are the evenings where ace of spades shots and bottles are being bought strictly because the rookie has to pay for it. I assume what they decided upon for one of the rookies or two of the rookies or maybe three of the rookies, like, hey, whenever we go to London, we'll do our rookie night out there. You guys pay for everything and we'll do it. So I'm assuming it was like two to three rookies their job was to pay for everything
Starting point is 01:08:48 they get there and I don't think they knew what they were walking into and then it was 40 grand and they're like yo we can get the fuck out of here yeah we're in London they will never fucking know we're just very large black men they will never know if we just walk right out the front door they apprehended for a little bit and then they said they'll pay for it
Starting point is 01:09:04 and then they kept moving. I think the media made it a lot bigger scene than it actually was. I think that was a big deal. Still, Friday is absurd. For me, Friday is absurd. Friday is typically date night, maybe do something night, but if you're going to go out until 4 a.m. and get arrested, you do it on Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Everybody knows that. When you played at Morgantown, I know we would go out on Thursdays when the game was on Saturday. But, I mean, that was our 18-year-old bodies. Yeah, we're college athletes at that point. We're not trying to make millions of dollars, let alone billions of dollars potentially. Yeah, I would go out every night of the week,
Starting point is 01:09:37 except for on Friday because we were locked in a hotel whenever I was in college. So that's a lot different animal. But in the NFL, I think it's crazy because you know people know who you are too, especially in England, because every football fan in the world is, literally in the world,
Starting point is 01:09:51 is probably in London on Friday, Saturday night. It's just a weird move to get arrested there. Wait, when you were in London, though, what was your schedule for Saturday? Was there like a big day? We did the Regent. We did the, that was the day we did the Regent Street thing. You do a walkthrough in the morning, Regent Street thing,
Starting point is 01:10:06 and then you're kind of to bed, and then you got the game the next morning, basically. You drive over to the stadium the next morning. It was just, I didn't, I knew it was bad news, though. You can't run into the cops on less than 48 hours before your game and have something good happen. I know that's not the case, but the Eagles win. Maybe the Eagles are back.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Jaguars, Jalen Ramsey gets a big pick. Everybody thinks so. Maybe the Jaguars are back. Turns out they ain't. Bortles can't throw anything besides five-yard crosses. I have a question. He's looking very bad at football right now. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Very, very bad. He was very bad. Are they in a football right now Very very bad He was very bad Are they in a situation right now with Eli Manning Because they benched him last week And then he started again this week Is there a situation where it's like We can't even pull this guy They have no one else
Starting point is 01:10:57 Cody Kessler Who is that guy He played at USC In the Browns. Oh, yeah. Oh. He didn't make it at the Browns. There's not a lot of people making it at the Browns.
Starting point is 01:11:13 But I think the Jaguars are a beautiful case study of what happens whenever you pay the wrong guy too much money and the rest of the egos in the building get pissed off, just like what happened in Seattle, just like what happened in Seattle, just like what's happening in Jacksonville. That's Tom Coughlin's team. I wonder how he felt about his players getting arrested on Friday night. I'm assuming that wasn't his favorite thing.
Starting point is 01:11:33 I'll be excited to see what happens. Good for the Eagles, though. Hope the Eagles are back. There was a lot of shit happening on NFL Sunday. A lot of things happened. I enjoyed watching it. Was the big-ass Hall of Fame guy there with a certificate to give Vinny after he made that
Starting point is 01:11:48 kick? He wasn't there. Huh. Big-ass guy goes everywhere quarterbacks are, doesn't he? Did they stop the game to have his family on the field and celebrate with everyone? I'll tell you what, they did stop the game. They did stop the game. Everybody was allowed on the field to celebrate and they made a point of saying that. At the same exact time
Starting point is 01:12:03 that that was happening, Johnny Hecker threw a fucking fake. I ain't never been more upset in my life. I got six TVs on, right? I got six TVs on. There's only like three games happening, four games happening. Having a pretty good For the Brand Day because Michael Dixon, what he chose to do was awesome, by the way.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Calling your own audible that far backed up. High risk, high reward i guess but great call by him i'm very happy he did that makes the the brand look very athletic so i got that cooking and then vinitary they're marching down the field and we're trying to get some shirts lined up on the back end on tex and then i see the saint louis or los angeles rams are up johnny hecker i'm like fuck johnny hecker's gonna do something awesome and i literally i see him take his two steps for the punt they're showing and I'm like oh that's on his actual steps I'm like oh fuck he's gonna throw that and then I look at the the Colts they're lining up for the field goal I'm like I can't bury each other Johnny Hecker I'm you're probably gonna do this
Starting point is 01:12:58 again this moment of Vinatieri is never gonna happen again Hecker throws a dime then he pins him at the one Vinatieri breaks the record There's just so much happening at the same time. I was very, very thankful for Vinatieri breaking that record. That's awesome. I'm happy he stuck with it. I'm sorry I missed Johnny Hecker. Hecker, I feel like every other week he's doing a fake. He's always throwing fakes. He's having a good time. Yeah, it has to be a
Starting point is 01:13:18 good time. Sean McVay just carried over that Jeff Fisher tradition. Fisher was the guy that rolled the dice whenever on fourth down. Hecker's the athlete to do it, though. He can throw the rock. There's some incompletions in there. But the next punt, too, the guys, they're 15 yards off him again. He could have thrown the ball again.
Starting point is 01:13:34 It makes no sense that they do that. Mike McCarthy coaching there. Ron Zook is running the special teams. Ron Zook tried to take me out my last year. Really? Yeah, he pulled a fucking pull and shoot, basically, which is illegal. He pulled a right guard or right tackle, completely just like a penalty pull, and then they shot somebody through the gap,
Starting point is 01:13:56 and that guy basically just came and took me out. Got a penalty, had to repunt the whole thing. But it was a complete bullshit move by Zook, and I let him know that directly afterwards. You should have. Right after the game, I was like, a pool shoot to take me out you fucking cocksucker and he was like i don't know what you're talking about and then he just walked in and tom mcmahon was like fuck you special teams coach tom mcmahon was like fuck you well because you take me out you take a punter out by the way huge deal because the back the kicker can't always punt so you're literally
Starting point is 01:14:25 taking out a pretty huge part of the thing so uh whenever i was on my kick uh to potentially become the field goal kicker puntering kickoff guy a lot of coaches were like if they take you out there we're fucked like if somebody takes out somebody takes out a quarterback are you screwed yes you take out tom brady aaron rogers he's peyton manning andrew. You're screwed, but at least you have a guy who can take a snap, who can maybe hand the ball off. Knows the offense. Yeah, you got somebody. You take out the kicker, punter, and kickoff guy, though.
Starting point is 01:14:52 You're fucked. You have to go for two every single time. Those points will come back to get you. Punting is just going to be a shit show of a nightmare. In kickoffs, you've got to have probably an offensive lineman go toe poke that thing down there. It's just the whole situation. And I never really thought about it until I almost got hurt punting
Starting point is 01:15:09 against the Houston Texans a couple years ago when a guy took me out. And Vinatieri was like, are you okay? He was like, I don't know if I can punt. And like Austin Colley, I think, was the backup punter. It was like, that's not good. This is not a good situation. It's one of those situations. But Ron Zook, yeah, he tried to fucking take me out.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Yeah, fuck him. I like the Packers a lot, but it seems like they were outclassed a bit there. It's how it is every week. Like, they just, I don't know. I mean, Hecker was huge. I mean, the Packers can't do anything when they're backed up like that,
Starting point is 01:15:39 and then McCarthy decides on the goal line to... By the way, when a punter pins somebody and then a safety happens, it's a beautiful scene. It's an absolute – it's a piece of art. It's an absolute piece of art that I love. And it's just like Rodgers not even getting a chance to go win the game like that. I mean, it's just such a deflating way to lose the game. Yeah, well, I was going to say, I mean,
Starting point is 01:15:58 the game really was going exactly how you would want to see it go. Like, I had no doubt they were going to win. He's getting the ball back with Aaron Rodgers in two minutes. They're going to win. I don't understand why it wouldn't be like, hey, don't bring this out no matter what. We have arguably the best quarterback in NFL history. Let's put the ball in his hands.
Starting point is 01:16:17 I saw him getting walked a couple times from behind, by the way. That wouldn't happen to no knee brace. I know. That knee brace might be slowing him down. Not in the game, but during the week. He probably can't run as much during the week, which is, I don't want to say he might gain some weight, but during the week, I assume he used to run a little bit more
Starting point is 01:16:35 with that knee brace to probably be a little bit more precautious. Could be slowing him down a little bit. People slapping his ankles when normally they wouldn't be slapping his ankles. Just one little injury there can affect a lot of things. I don't know how much he's actually practicing either because outside of Devontae Adams, he has no chemistry with any of the wide receivers. Devontae Adams is a player, though.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Yeah. That guy's really good. The NFL Sunday was beautiful. Diggs, you have a couple thoughts about it. Yeah, you know what else was deflating from that game? What's that about? Todd Gurley being unselfish and just deciding to go down at the two when I have the Rams minus seven.
Starting point is 01:17:05 And then the over-under, too, was affected by that, right? Yeah. What a fucking good football play that was, though. Such a good football play. I couldn't even be mad at him, but I could. God damn it. Because I was chasing from the early games. And I was like, because earlier in the week,
Starting point is 01:17:23 the Rams were like minus nine and a half, minus 10. And I was like, that's too much. But then when I checked the four o'clock schedule, and I was Rams minus seven, I was like, oh, I put a lot on him. And then he went and did that. It was tough. But other than that, like yesterday was fucking phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:17:41 I had a very large weekend gambling. Good for you, man. Very, very, very, very, very large weekend of gambling. I would like that to be known. Shout out to the Mountaineers on Thursday night. Oh, yeah, that was an easy one. They kicked off the party Thursday night in Morgantown, by the way. That's going to be, let's just assume Thursday night's in Morgantown.
Starting point is 01:18:00 If the team is going to do well. I was excited for that. Will Greer, potential Heisman. But I felt very good about it. night to morgantown if the team is no it's gonna do well i was excited for that will greer potential heisman but i did very i felt very good about it todd girley though today in the meeting room is getting uh praised by the coaches about how smart of a football player that is and everything like that and in the locker room you don't keep up with the gambling but i would assume there's a lot of people that have a fucking bounty on todd girley's head. Three yards away, right? It was three yards away.
Starting point is 01:18:26 It was easily a good again. From covering and over. Both two bets right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Other than that, it was a great thing. So I wrote some notes down here on my thoughts about the NFL and kind of yesterday.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Ladies and gentlemen, here's some Diggsy thoughts. Sometimes I hate today's NFL because it's all about offense and scoring points. And I know the casual fan loves it, but it's frustrating to watch these teams go up and down the field and just fucking there's no defense at all. There's no suspense in it for me. There's no suspense in that for me. It's like an all-star game. Correct.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Tampa Bay scores yesterday after being down 17 points with 45 seconds left. And my first thought was, oh, 45 seconds left, Bengals are easily going to score. And I fucking hated that inside. It used to be a time where if there was anything less than two minutes and you didn't have Brady or Manning or Breeze or one of these elite quarterbacks, where you're like, oh, that team has no chance. But now, with 45 seconds left, Dalton has a fucking chance to win the game. So I have accepted that, and I've learned to absolutely love bad quarterback play.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And yesterday was the best. I was on the edge of my seat all day watching bad quarterbacks. You never know what these assholes are going to do. It's phenomenal. That's my brand. Your brand is kicking and punting and stuff like that in a good way. My brand is now Bad Quarterback Play. I think I'm actually going to give out an award each week for Bad Quarterback Play.
Starting point is 01:19:55 I like it. I'm either going to call it the Browns Quarterback Name Jersey Award. You know that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or I'm going to call it the Klaus and Tebow, Gabbert, Sanchez, Schaub, Osweiler, Leaf, Russell, Dilfer, Bowler, Leinert, Wanky, Harrington, David Carr Award of the Week. I like that one.
Starting point is 01:20:09 I like that second one. If you could run that back again, what's the name of it? It's the Klaassen, Tebow, Gabbert, Sanchez, Schaub, Osweiler, Leaf, Russell, Dilfer, Bowler, Leinert, Wanky, Harrington, David Carr Award of the Week. Of course. Of course it is. And my nominees for this week.
Starting point is 01:20:25 All right. Blake Bortles. You can only throw a four-yard crossing route. That's bad. He throws them really good, though. That crossing route. Maybe the best crosser in the league. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:20:34 He hits that in stride. The guy in stride. And it's always a very tight spiral, too. I'm like, why can't you just take that model and extend it a little bit? Can't extend it past 10 yards. Because I like Blake. I like Blake a lot. He's a funny, good guy.
Starting point is 01:20:49 He's a good personality. They show those crossing routes. Those are not easy balls to throw, just so everybody knows. A guy who runs a 4-2, sprinting directly sideways across the field, hitting him in stride and with enough touch that they can catch that, that's a tough throw and he can nail it every time but you extend that six more yards he's got no fucking shot none none he's really bad throwing to the to the flat the running back out of the flat too has a hard time putting that
Starting point is 01:21:16 in stride too which is wild uh my second nominee is jamis winston four interceptions and fitzpatrick then t-bagged him after he got out of the game. Bro, Fitzmagic was almost back. I know. You were referring to it earlier when you went on your little run. I didn't want to stop you there. That's fine. We almost put shirts back up for sale, by the way, which I bet Bangles Moneyline.
Starting point is 01:21:35 So I was like, oh, Bangles Moneyline. And then they put Fitzpatrick, and he scores. I'm like, there's no fucking way. And then I'm like, hindsight, we still got the shirts, though. T-shirt money. So I was very torn at the end. I was fucking torn. I'm on the phone with Phil.
Starting point is 01:21:51 I'm like, I think we've got to put the Magic shirts back live. After he scored, to tie it, I immediately went to the website to put a tweet out to buy the shirt. It wasn't on the site. I checked back 30 seconds later because Ty sent out a tweet about it. I was like, oh, now it's back on the site. That was literally me and Phil on the site. I checked back 30 seconds later because Ty sent out a tweet about it. I was like, oh, now it's back on the site. That was literally me and Phil on the phone together. I'm like, because I see him come in. I see him start to move.
Starting point is 01:22:11 I'm like, we got to put the fucking Fitzmagic shirt. If he scores right here, we got to put the Fitzmagic thing. And then he scores. I'm like, all right, they got to go for two. They get to two. I'm like, put it live, Phil. It's fucking live. There's no way, unlike you, I thought there was no way the Bengals come back to win that.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Randy the Bull Bullock comes in. Fresh out of his frat, hits a game winner in Cincinnati. Good for the Braves. Two more nominees. Eli. There is no words for how bad Eli is. Eli is just, he, like, when you watch him, he's just, I don't know if he's staring directly at the line rushing at him, but it's, and he doesn't move. He just stands there.
Starting point is 01:22:42 He's like, well, I'm going to get sacked here. And then the one interception he threw was an overthrow by like 16 yards. They zoom in on his face when he's getting tackled. It's so funny. It looks like he's getting literally stabbed and like shot at. It's like a full panic as it's going down. I would too, by the way. I'm not trying to get tackled by these 300-pounders.
Starting point is 01:23:01 But is there no self-awareness in the Manning camp? I feel like there is, by the way. I feel like in the Manning camp is there no self-awareness in the Manning camp? I feel like there is, by the way. I feel like in the Manning camp, there is self-awareness. Peyton probably could have hung around for another couple years if he wanted to just hand the ball off. I feel like whenever he does commercials, he only does funny commercials. It seems as if there's no self-awareness in the Manning camp at the moment. Is Archie Manning losing it?
Starting point is 01:23:22 Is Archie Manning losing it? This is something that is Archie Manning losing it? Is Archie Manning losing it? This is something... Is Archie Manning losing it? It's like everybody around that situation is just frozen. You know how you panic for a second and you just freeze? It's like they're frozen. They're making no moves whatsoever. That's what he does during the pass rush.
Starting point is 01:23:39 You don't see Peyton going to any of his games anymore, though. There's no... I guess he was... I guess he was on the sideline, but there was no shots of him in the suite. Peyton's like, keep me off the fucking TV. He's throwing the way he's throwing. Just keep me off the fucking TV. I think they're just holding on because they're their last
Starting point is 01:23:53 man in football. I think after last year and how poorly he played, he wanted to have one more good year. It's the only thing I can assume. He probably wanted to go out on somewhat of a high note. It's bad. It's bad right now. There's no self-awareness over there it's like skip bayless i learned this on my trip out to uh la uh-huh i guess he just they literally it's a job to keep him surrounded at all times with like-minded people does that
Starting point is 01:24:17 make sense yeah so when skip goes on to the tv show he honestly believes everything he said because the people that he's been talking to is gassing him up oh yeah he got gasolini around him they're like yeah absolutely lebron ain't shit like he the people all around him are just very much like yeah yeah yeah absolutely you're 100 right so when he goes on on the show there isn't even a thought of like no i'm wrong it's like he's believing what he's saying and everybody can tell because he's selling it hard so whenever the internet reacts he doesn't even it's like oh it believing what he's saying, and everybody can tell because he's selling it hard. So whenever the internet reacts, he doesn't even, it's like, oh, it's fucking internet. My people around me are all in, which is a, by the way,
Starting point is 01:24:52 very successful model for a skit playlist. It's been a very successful model. But when it comes to this type of stuff, there's no self-awareness. This could also come back to bite you in the ass if you've got a bunch of people around you that don't have like a little hint of, hey, let's get some wine. Everybody cheers.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Maybe last game, huh? Let's get out of here. I keep waiting for them to just say, oh, you know what? His shoulder's hurt. He's going to be out. And just let him stay out. Because if you're just going for the first pick, you can do that with your backup. Well, the Raiders were also trying to do that, too.
Starting point is 01:25:25 It's a battle right now for that first pick. I don't know if anybody's just going to be able to fall into that. You're going to have to earn it. You're going to have to trade away every fucking player you have if you want that first pick. And then my last nominee for the award for this week is, since we're recording this on Monday, whoever Buffalo starts tonight, it's going to be me.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Whether it's Peterman or fucking Derek Anderson, it's going to be a shit show. Whether it's Peterman or fucking Derek Anderson, it's going to be a shit show. Well, there you have it. That was the nominees for this week's. This week's. Glosson, Tebow, Gabbard, Sanchez, Schaub, Osweiler, Leaf, Russell, Dilford, Bowler, Leinert, Wanky, Harrington, David Carr, Award of the Week.
Starting point is 01:25:57 I think I'm going to have a good time with this one. Is there two live players in the league right now on that list? Yeah, Osweiler's still in there. I mean, I could have put Peterman. I could have put some people in the league. now on that list? Yeah, Osweiler's still in there. I mean, I could have put Peterman. I could have put some people in the league. It's just the greats. The greats who are in the league right now are in the list. Yeah, Ray Guy has an award because he's done.
Starting point is 01:26:14 And now whenever he was in the league, you don't just give out awards for people that are still in. They don't put statues up for people that are still in the league. It's once you've completed your career of failure that you get added to the Klassen-Leinert Smith-Stewart, whatever it is. You don't retire the jersey because you still need to wear it.
Starting point is 01:26:32 How about someone on the opposite end of the spectrum that we just talked about like AP? I thought he was done. Awesome. Guess who's back? He's unstoppable. He's defying time. So he was in, what? The Saints, they wouldn't give him the rock. So he threatened Sean Payton's life, goes to the Arizona Cardinals.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Has some good games there. First game, he scores, has a good. Then they don't give him the rock or something happens. He gets hurt, and then they sign with the Redskins. Everybody's saying the Redskins. Late signing, too. Everybody's saying the Redskins are stupid, though. They're saying, oh, it's a waste of money.
Starting point is 01:27:00 And then all of a sudden, that horse gets out there. Hey, he looks good in that uniform. Yeah, he does. He's catching passes finally, too. They've never done that in his career and running through tackles he's back to being the all day he i listened to a interview of his because he tore his acl whenever he was with the vikings came back ahead of schedule and then broke all the rushing records. And as a human who is also an athlete, there was a lot of question marks about,
Starting point is 01:27:31 how does that happen? How does a body heal faster than everybody else's body and then be better than everybody else's body that has ever played in said position? That's a little fishy. But then he gave an interview and he said he thanked the Lord for giving him a body that recovers faster than other people's body. So his body recovers faster than other people's body.
Starting point is 01:27:52 So with that being said, age isn't a real thing then. Because the thing that hurts you whenever you get older, Todd can attest to this, is your recovery time. Your recovery time is way slower. So when you get older, you can... I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm good once as I ever was. And the reason why that line is that line
Starting point is 01:28:10 is because the recovery time is the issue. Adrian Peterson said to the Lord, whichever one you believe in, Austin Colley, Allah, Oprah, all the other ones, Jesus. The Greek ones. The Greek ones. All the Greek gods.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Dr. Phil. Dr. Phil, good God, great show. It's amazing. Great show. If you believe in that he has an actual faster recovery than everybody else, he can play forever if he wants. He's Wolverine. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:37 He's Wolverine. That's basically what he is. He's an anomaly, like superhuman almost. I'm sure they've tested him. I mean, look at his body, though. When he comes back that fast. Yeah, they definitely test him i mean look at his body back that fast yeah they definitely test them definitely test them not granted they can't really figure out the hgh test i don't think they're dude they do blood tests i didn't think that started until the last couple years though but i've never heard of anybody failing the hgh test has anybody else no
Starting point is 01:28:57 i've heard no people fail the hgh test they give hgh it was a big thing whenever they said uh a percentage of you who are getting randomly tested will also have to draw blood for the HGH test it was a big deal they made a big deal out of it then there was a big conversation like well what do we know the baseline is for HGH like what are you testing it against what are you testing it against because what if our testosterone level or HGH level is higher than the regular human because we're professional athletes which is definitely feasible yeah so that was a conversation for like two or three years, and then finally it got passed.
Starting point is 01:29:27 I don't know what the agreement was, but I've seen zero people fail for HGH. Not that I have any idea or suspicions of people who are on HGH, but you've seen zero people fail for HGH, which is very interesting. I have a question about that. Because the amount of conversations that happened to get to the HGH testing was wild.
Starting point is 01:29:43 And I would assume those levels could be crazy different for a regular person on thursday than they are saturday just because that's the way your body works sometimes see i know nothing about any of that but i would assume that you wouldn't be able to get a baseline exactly so is that an annual test where you know about it ahead of time like the marijuana test is no that so any ped test is random whenever all year round the street drug test um is once a year it's an annual test starting on april 20th 420 hilarious all the way to the end of the first week of training camp you get tested in there one time you'll never get tested again so at otas the end of otas which is in april and may if you get tested during that
Starting point is 01:30:26 You're done. You're free. Go have a great time this summer If you don't that means the first week of training camp you're definitely getting tested or during summer You're getting tested for the annual whenever it comes to PED that can be at any given time any day of the week guys Can get tested two times a week if they want if you have a big game You're definitely gonna get tested if you have a big game and you don't get tested you feel disrespected by roger you feel disrespected but it was a part of the ped testing where a percentage of people who are randomly selected would also have to give blood for the hgh test but the big conversation was like well what's the baseline who are you basing uh the growth hormone level off of is it a regular
Starting point is 01:31:03 person because a regular person and professional athlete probably have two different hgh levels not that i would know anything about this this is just the conversations that were being had i'm not a scientist i have no fucking idea or a doctor but those are the things that were happening for a couple years before the hgh test finally got passed and it was a wild scene wild scene. Nobody's ever failed for it, though. Yeah, I didn't even think about that until you said it. But yeah, never heard it. Because for me, sitting in those meetings was also dramatic.
Starting point is 01:31:33 It was also dramatic. Just like everything with the NFLPA. Everything becomes so fucking dramatic. It's like, oh, if we give them this, we're going to have to give up this. Or if we want this, we're going to have to give up five more games. It's games it's like what that is not how it works can't you just go talk to these fucking people as a business arrangement like we wanted to eliminate marijuana from the street drug test we want to eliminate marijuana because a lot of guys use it as a medicinal thing instead of using pills we have a very big pill popping problem in the nfl for a while i'm not sure if we do now but
Starting point is 01:32:04 we did have a big pill popping thing for a while marijuana cannabis can take the place of a lot of those pills so that was a conversation so i do believe that there was a thought of potentially eliminating marijuana from the test but then the conversation was well then the nfl is going to ask us to play two more games it's like well why why why does it have to be that way well anything that they give up they want to get something back that's how they were like talking to me as if i was an idiot like that's how business works let's not guess what they're going to counter dude you have no i put on the table and see what happens so they raised the level so they they raised the level to olympic standards for marijuana so it used to be that we had a we could have less thc
Starting point is 01:32:46 in our body than the olympics could have and it would be a failed test then they raised it to the olympic standards for the amount of marijuana you're allowed into you for a failed test which is still yes still testing for it right it's just they felt like the nflpa said and we got the limit raised for the amount of thc it's like like, what, I got to stop smoking for what, 17 days instead of 20? Get the fuck out of here. You know, it was just the way everything's so dramatic and that HGH thing was very dramatic. For how dramatic it was, it made you think like,
Starting point is 01:33:19 oh, there's probably a lot of people taking this. And then whenever they start testing for it, it was like nobody failed for it. And I may be off base here, but this is something I've always thought is that the NFL doesn't want people to fail that test so that they design it in such a way that they may know that there's an HGH usage problem, but they don't want to deal with the backlash.
Starting point is 01:33:37 So I think the NFL does want people to fail, to be honest. And I understand the thought of you make the league look better if nobody's failing any of these tests. But the way the tests are set up, like they random tests they're this they're that because i think it's a flex by the nfl whenever they catch a guy doing something that they can say to the mlb to the nhl like we do this right we monitor it right if that makes sense definitely and just like the marijuana like the fact that they that's even on the test anymore granted
Starting point is 01:34:05 i understand there's people that hate weed because you saw the hippies back in the day protest against the troops in america and they were the face of marijuana blah blah blah but if you have a brain and don't live under a rock you can see all the medicinal pros that marijuana and cannabis has aside from making you laugh more eat better and enjoy life there's a there's a lot of things but i do believe that the nfl wants to flex about how good they're monitoring their league and how in control they have their league so i think they do want people to fail it would be interesting to see because now you say that i don't recall any fighters and ty correct me if i'm wrong like in the ufc or anything getting hit for hgh either it's always a more aggressive like
Starting point is 01:34:43 testosterone yeah right and hgh i assume's always a more aggressive like testosterone yeah right and hgh i assume is very if you look at those heads on the fighters if you look at the heads on the fighters in there you can i don't know all the side effects of hgh i don't think a lot of people do but if you look at fighters it would be hard not to be like it seems like their shit grew differently than the normal why does is your head look that way? It just seems as if that would be something. Maybe they can't test for it, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Maybe it's just one of those things where they're saying they're testing for it, but there's no actual test. Who knows? Here's the one thing we brought up after week four, when all those players were coming back from suspension, the four-game suspension, nobody gave a fuck. No, they were talking about there was a big return, like a homecoming. They weren't talking like, oh, these people were cheating.
Starting point is 01:35:29 They were like, oh, Julian Edelman's back. You know, he's rested. He's going to be doing some special things. Nobody even gave a single fuck. And I think it's because the testing process is all such a joke now. You can blame it on so many things. Not that it is. Not that it always is.
Starting point is 01:35:44 You can blame it on so many things. You can say is. Not that it always is. You can blame it on so many things. You can say a supplement was tainted because it was created in the same factory as something that had something bad in it, and it just so happened to be tainted. You can say it was Adderall while you were partying. You can say it's all these things, and until, which I don't even think they can just reveal why you failed because of a hip, I assume, there's so many different excuses and outlets that are all legit, but there may not be for every single case. The future of the sports is very interesting. What does the NFL lose, though, if you lose a big player?
Starting point is 01:36:12 You know what I'm saying? They suspended Tom Brady four games. That's what I always fall back on. It's not about just one. Tom Brady is the greatest player of all time, greatest quarterback of all time, and they were hunting to suspend him for four games. It wasn't like they were just like, oh, we can wipe this one under the rug. They were hunting to suspend him for four games. It wasn't like they were just like,
Starting point is 01:36:25 oh, we can wipe this one under the rug. They were trying to suspend him for four games. I think the NFL, Roger Goodell, they very much want to be able to say, we regulate our league in a professional manner. Like a big dick move. Yeah, it's definitely that, but I think they want to be able to flex and say,
Starting point is 01:36:41 we do things the right way over here at the NFL. It would be nice if that was the case with the NFL and these other organizations, that they were just finally accepting that maybe HGH is a necessary thing because these people are putting their bodies through things they're not supposed to put their bodies through, and they need to recover. So then the thought is, for the guys that don't take it,
Starting point is 01:37:02 like they're at an unfair, the guys that don't have enough money to find the guy that can do it for them or the girl that can do it for them. It's like Anthony Gonzalez, for instance. He said something whenever he was injured. He got hurt a lot. He was a very good wide receiver at Ohio State. I think he's running for senator right now in Columbus or Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Very interesting. Doesn't follow me on Twitter. He and i were good friends i followed him i saw he was on twitter i checked it out there like he is a candidate for the something senate i'm like okay good for gonzalez really good guy but he got hurt a lot and they were i don't know if they were asking for him to take a pay cut or they were cutting him or something and he said to me in passing in a conversation he was like all these guys get hurt and then they come back in two weeks as they just take a bunch of shit he said i'm not i won't i'm not willing
Starting point is 01:37:49 to take a bunch of shit and i think it's actually hurting me business wise you know so that's the thought yes if you offer it up to the entire if you offer it up to everybody like hey uh we are going to allow you to take this supplement now instead of banning it because we think it helps right then now there has now there comes an entire fucking conversation about well how are the people We're going to allow you to take this supplement now instead of banning it because we think it helps. Then now there comes an entire fucking conversation about, well, how are the people going to get that? How are the people going to do this? Well, what about this guy who doesn't know this person? Or this guy who's an undrafted free agent who doesn't have enough money?
Starting point is 01:38:19 Now he's playing at an unlevel playing field with everybody. There's just always shit talking. Well, that's a valid argument, though. Yeah. Why do you tell the guy who just doesn't want to put that in his body? Exactly. He's playing, and it's just like the guys in the majors back whenever Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds were hitting dingers. It's like you've got the little fucking wiry guy stepping into the bat.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Oh, my own base percentage is 250. It's like, yeah, but everybody else is just hitting home runs every goddamn day, so you're going to have to get fired. Go to the Frontier League and pitch to Pat McAvoy. The state of sports is very interesting, but I love that we cover it. I love that we talk about it. Well,
Starting point is 01:38:57 I come to you from a hotel room in Bristol, Connecticut because while I was traveling yesterday, a couple moves were made by my favorite football team on earth since Hard Knocks, the Cleveland Browns. We all have been invested in the Cleveland Browns. We all saw Hugh Jackson say, I'm going to win here right before jumping in a river to wash off his completely defeated stench from last year. We all saw Hugh Jackson and Todd Haley get into it on episode one of Hard Knocks
Starting point is 01:39:32 and we thought, oh, there could be a power struggle here. This could end up a bad thing, but we get the first pick of the overall draft, the future of the quarterback of the Dog Pond, Baker Mayfield's here. So Todd Haley will do what Todd Haley did with Ben Roethlisberger. They'll bring in Jarvis Landry, an Antonio Brown type player. They'll get a good running back, which they did. We got a quarterback. Now it'll take time to build the process here. But no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:40:07 No, no, no. No, no, no. Brad Paisley did that creepy thing where he thought about getting the RV that they stayed in in training camp. Hugh Jackson started inserting himself into situations he shouldn't have been in a lack of self-awareness. And after tie, after tie, after tie, after tie, after loss, after that incredible win when Baker Mayfield took him to the promised land, the ownership felt like they had one thing they had to do. The ownership wanted to fire Todd Haley. But the GM, the GM, old gum-chewing, sweatshirt-wearing son of a bitch, he wanted to fire Jackson. So what do they do? They fire them both.
Starting point is 01:40:49 They fire them both. So now Baker Mayfield is going to have to start brand new with a whole new offensive coordinator. Hopefully it's Coach Wiley in the hot gut. They're saying maybe it'll be Lincoln Riley of Oklahoma. But whatever the case is, Hugh Jackson from Hugh Jack City somehow, some way found a way to lose even after winning and tying. Todd Haley swinging Todd Haley. Tequila Cowboy Todd Haley. He gets fired on his way out of the bronze. What a nightmare situation for the dog pond
Starting point is 01:41:26 you guys were finally able to drink bud light and now you suck again you don't deserve that hopefully the next rebuild will be the last rebuild i'm excited to see it and i can't wait to see what baker mayfield becomes i saw a stat earlier there cle Cleveland Browns are the only team since 1975 to be plus 11 in the turnover margin and not have a winning record. Greg Williams, he's so pissed, I bet. Greg Williams walking into those meetings like, I do everything I fucking can for you guys.
Starting point is 01:41:56 I got people taking legs out for 20 grand, and we got nothing going on. Here's another fun one for you. Schefter just tweeted this out. After the last five Browns head coaches have all been fired after the second Steelers game of the season. Oh, that has to feel good as a Steeler. Cornell, Mangini, Shermer, Chudzinski, and Mike Pettit.
Starting point is 01:42:15 They haven't won there since 2003. That's a wild stat. By the way, thoughts and prayers, T's and P's to everybody in Squirrel Hill. I sent out a tweet that Squirrel Hill is a beautiful part of the city. I got a lot of people coming back to me like, it doesn't matter what part of the city it is. It was a religious thing. Well, that means you don't know what Squirrel Hill is. Squirrel Hill is the Jewish community basically in Pittsburgh. That's what it is. It is a very beautiful community. What happened there is terrible. Just because one dumbass does one dumbass thing. I hope that the city ofburgh doesn't get labeled as a bunch of like fucking haters and and anti-semitic people pittsburgh is a beautiful city that guy obviously a big jackass
Starting point is 01:42:50 thoughts and prayers to every single person affected in the synagogue and family and the whole area there squirrel hill is a magical part of town where it's a melting pot literally of all the religions races in the city squirrel hill is beautiful area. My mom worked there for a decade, so I was there often. It was a sad, sad situation. With that being said, that happens on Saturday. Donny Iris sings the national anthem on Sunday. They haven't lost to the Browns at home in how long? 15 years.
Starting point is 01:43:20 15 years. That Steelers money line was the biggest lock I've ever seen in the history of my life. You got Donny Iris singing the national anthem beforehand. Fucking Donny. After the whole city has come together because of fucking idiot on Saturday, that Steelers money line was a lock. And it was almost awesome to see the whole place come together.
Starting point is 01:43:39 The moments of silence all over the world, those get me, man. They always get me. Because that Minnesota Vikings place is one of the loudest stadiums over the world. Yes. Those get me, man. They always get me because that Minnesota Vikings place is one of the loudest stadiums in the league right now. And that moment of silence whenever they had last night, it was just like you could hear a pin drop. It's sad that moments of terrible have to put a perspective on things, how we're all in this together.
Starting point is 01:44:00 But I do enjoy watching the love and unity of our country after a dumbass does something absolutely terrible. With that being said, Steelers are definitely going to win that game. There was no doubt about it. They knocked off some rust early in the first quarter, and then after that it was, besides the one fucked up after the safety, besides that it was a blowout. Le'Veon Bell, by the way, still not playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Starting point is 01:44:23 Apparently he's going to hold out until today, actually. Well, today's the trade deadline. Yesterday or today? Today, Tuesday, is the trade deadline. So he wants to come back after the trade deadline so that they cannot trade him. He doesn't want to be traded? No. What does he want?
Starting point is 01:44:37 Nobody knows what this guy wants. I don't think he knows what he wants. I think he knows what he wants. I don't think his agent. Well, I think he does what he wants. I don't think his agent... Well, I think he does want to wrap. I think his agent doesn't know what Le'Veon wants. There you go. I think there is quite a little...
Starting point is 01:44:52 Because he said he missed playing. He missed the game. He wanted to come back week seven. He wanted to come back. And then his agent, I assume, got on his phone and was like, no, no, no, no, no. We don't go back till week 10. We don't do this.
Starting point is 01:45:03 We're not forced to be back until then. Then he starts saying, they would have paid you if they wanted you back. You start digging in almost. And I honestly believe that Le'Veon Bell is stuck in a bad situation here with his agent's thoughts, his thoughts, and then all of Pittsburgh's thoughts.
Starting point is 01:45:21 He's got to be happy, though, with how well Conor's doing. At first, this whole thing was he didn't want to be overworked this year. So now that Connor's doing very well, you would think that they would have a nice little healthy split the rest of the season if he did show up. Well, at first he just wanted his money. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:34 Then he didn't want to be overworked because it's going to be a one-year rental. Then he wants to play again, so he wants to come back. Then he's not back. Then he doesn't want to be a stealer for the long haul. This is the's not back. Then he doesn't want to be a stealer for the long haul. This is the end of it. Then he doesn't want to be traded. It's like there's no real – it doesn't make any sense here. It doesn't make any – this is what you expect, though,
Starting point is 01:45:53 from somebody from Michigan State. Didn't deserve that. We're going to find out real soon because he's got to be back before week 10 or he loses pretty much everything. It just doesn't make much sense to me what's going on with him. I don't – So it's tough. Like you said, he wants to limit his body body of work but he's also a guy i imagine that wants
Starting point is 01:46:09 the ball every time they said that he wasn't rusty last year when he showed up late they just didn't give him the ball remember we talked to adidi uh disa bakaria yeah his name we talked to adisa bakaria and i said you know is he going to be rusty whenever he does his holdout because last year whenever he came back after his holdout he was was bad. He had no money. He was like, well, if you looked at the film, he wasn't getting the ball enough. He wasn't getting this. He wasn't being put in situations. He actually was doing great. They just weren't giving him the ball.
Starting point is 01:46:34 And then this year, it's like, well, we don't want him to get the ball because we don't want him to get hurt. It's like, what the fuck do you guys want? And I bet if you're the Steelers, there has to come a point where you're like, we don't know what the fuck this guy wants. We didn't give him his money. We know, number one, he wanted $17 million a year. He wanted $17 million a year. We didn't give him that. Now it's like everything's lost.
Starting point is 01:46:51 Everything is completely lost. It makes no sense to me. Well, he'll come back for the Super Bowl run. No bell needed, though. No bell needed. James is going to get the shirt. No bell needed. Diggs is wearing it.
Starting point is 01:47:01 Yep. Had to. Diggs is wearing it. We had a 200-yard day yesterday. Hashtag end game. Hashtag end game. Semi is wearing it. Yep. Had to. Diggs is wearing it. Had a 200-yard day yesterday. Hashtag end game. Hashtag end game. Send me entertaining stuff. I'm on a trip all by myself in Bristol, Connecticut.
Starting point is 01:47:13 I got like six hours of meetings tomorrow, shaking a lot of hands to see if there's any business to be had together. Hopefully there is. Hopefully there is. If not, don't care. If there is, it would be awesome. It would be absolutely awesome. I think this lineup of meetings with ESPN seems a lot better than the ones that went with Fox.
Starting point is 01:47:30 Yeah. Just for future reference. Good. Fox had me out there and basically were showing me around like I was a Make-A-Wish kid. And I was like, this is where we go on TV. I was like, oh, nice. This is where. And I'll sit with the VIP winners that got a chance to come in.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Please don't ask for any autographs. That would be so funny if ESPN's listening right now. Like, oh, cancel the tour. Cancel the tour. Right now, cancel it. They're not, by the way. They're not. So we'll see how this goes.
Starting point is 01:47:59 I'm pretty excited about it. Could be a good handshake. I grew up, I think everybody did, watching SportsCenter. ESPN was a game changer. SportsCay night raw that was it sports center monday night raw that was it every single i don't care about anything else and then sports espn kind of had to start finding their way again and then now hopefully we'll see what happens hopefully i can help maybe not i don't know what to wear i'm packing so. I don't know what to wear. I'm packing so much.
Starting point is 01:48:27 I don't know what to wear. Everybody on their fucking TVs are in suits. I don't really have any suits. Only the ones that I wore for the WWE stuff. Chuck Pagano shirt. What? Your Chuck Pagano shirt. The shirt that I created?
Starting point is 01:48:41 Custom made, had the toe. That's a good idea. But that shirt was only created to get around his dress code. I don't know if it actually fits in an actual dress code place. So I think I'm going to wear a sports coat. Yeah. With that underneath,
Starting point is 01:48:52 you could do it. I'll probably wear a button down, like an actual button down, not the Chuck Pagano button down that I created. What do you? Full button down. And then probably,
Starting point is 01:49:00 I'm going to wear these jeans, I think. I think I'm going to wear these stonewashed, holy jeans. So they know, they know that, like, listen, I'm playing your game these jeans, I think. I think I'm going to wear these stonewashed, holy jeans. So they know. Listen, I'm playing your game here. Still keeping it real.
Starting point is 01:49:09 But I'm still, you know what I mean? It's kind of like, I say this a lot, but it will be a mullet of costumes. Like business on top, party on the bottom. I'm playing your game. I'm dressing up here. But. But. I think that plays.
Starting point is 01:49:24 I think so too. which is the flavor they need i think so too i'm also going to be on get up i believe wednesday morning which is a show on espn bring your good shoes jalen always tries to show out with his shoes always all right yep i'll bring some shoes what is he a sneakerhead jalen big time they have him on the side of the panel just so he can show off his sneakers okay so, so I got to bring shoes. Do they wear suits on that show? Not every day. Typically. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Yes? I'd say typically. Like Dan Olavsky does. Jalen wears something nice, but it's not exactly a suit. Greeny wears a suit. Yeah. Oh, boy. I think.
Starting point is 01:50:00 It might be like, you know, Good Morning Football, how they dress, kind of? No. It's not really a football, how they dress kind of. No. It's not really a suit, but it's like a. This is, I'm going on to a show that I've never watched. And I will watch it. And it's strictly because normally we're doing stuff at the same time. So it's difficult to catch up on what everybody else is doing. But I guess I'll watch some clips today while traveling just to see what the right move is.
Starting point is 01:50:21 No, they're not wearing suits. No? Just nice. Greeny's got like a three-quarter zip-up, and Jalen's wearing a hoodie in this one. There you go. Okay, so I'll wear a Henley. I'll wear my black long-sleeve Henley
Starting point is 01:50:32 just because it's formal, but it's here to party. I mean, some days there's jackets. Some days it's a nice sweater. You know. So I'll have good shoes on, the Henley. Everybody, take a picture of me on Get Up and tweet it to me and rate my fit, rate my outfit on if I look like I should be there or shouldn't be there. And if you think
Starting point is 01:50:50 ESPN is going to offer me any role at all, just strictly off of what I'm wearing on get up, let me know. Do that. That's tomorrow morning. Aside from that, hashtag end gang, hashtag end game. Send me some entertaining shit. If I get a, if I get a good laugh out of it, we'll send you some merch. I hope you have an incredible Tuesday. The greatest Tuesday of all time. We're so thankful for you. PatMacShow.com. Get your merch. Get your love. Black Friday is going to be awesome. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 01:51:14 We've got some heaters coming out. We've got some heaters coming out. Oh, yeah. Like legit heaters. And one of the greatest promotions of all time. Like they'll keep you warm. They will. I'm off the promotion model. Roasting and toasting.
Starting point is 01:51:30 And your people at the party will be like, oh, that's a fucking dope. Anything. Anything. Anything. We got some Christmas sweaters coming out. Not just some Christmas sweaters. These are pretty fucking happy Christmas sweaters. I feel good about these Christmas sweaters, by the way.
Starting point is 01:51:44 We weren't really a part of the process in the last couple of years in creating the Christmas sweaters. This feel good about these Christmas sweaters, by the way. We weren't really a part of the process in the last couple years in creating the Christmas sweaters. This time we got the vitamins together and had a real sit-down session. Feel pretty good about it. We got a brand new hoodless sweatshirt that I think people will enjoy. I got this bomber jacket
Starting point is 01:51:59 that I designed myself. Strictly so I can wear it every day. We only have 100 other ones. Hopefully those sell out pretty quick. I'm very excited for Black Friday. I think you all should be too. It'll be 20% off the whole store that whole weekend. And if we hit a certain amount, a goal for the company,
Starting point is 01:52:15 somebody will be getting a tattoo. Somebody will be getting a tattoo. Awesome. There's a lot of relief just came from the world. That was potentially going to be a brand. I looked into the brand stuff. I watched more videos of people getting branded, and I think we should turn away from that.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Just strictly because I don't want to have to put, I don't want to be known as the boss that put somebody through that. But a tattoo we can do. A tattoo we can do. If we sell a certain amount of items, somebody will have to get a tattoo of some sort. Live on the spot on Cyber Monday.
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Starting point is 01:54:37 endgame. Hashtag endgame. Go ahead and send what the other side of Evan Foxy's bed looks like when he's laying in it. Big old slice of pizza. Or it could be an abyss with nobody there. That seems to be the trend. Aside from that, I've got to go get on a plane.
Starting point is 01:54:52 I love you all. Have a great day.

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