The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 020 - A Life Coach Calls The Show

Episode Date: November 8, 2018

Today's show is packed with some incredible conversations. First, former Iowa Hawkeye legend and Colts linebacker, Pat Angerer, joins the show to talk about being George Kittle's newly appointed life ...coach, what he's been up to, being a newly minted tag team champion on a local wrestling circuit in Iowa, and how he's been enjoying this NFL season along with his Super Bowl pick. Also included is his infamous naked locker room fight story from the first time he was on the show (3:55-33:33). Later, Pat sits down with Digs for another edition of Quick Hits to cover everything going on in the NFL, Connor and Evan join Pat to discuss how incredible Zion Williamson's debut was, Todd and Pat chat about Brock Lesnar sticking with the WWE through April and what that means for his UFC prospects, and Nick joins the show for some Throwback Thursday music and a little hockey talk. Stick around until the end for an incredible #endgang #endgame opportunity. It's a good one. Come laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:58 Thursday with Nick Marotta later. There's a conversation that when I walked into the studio, the microphones were on and Connor, myself, and Foxy had a full college basketball conversation this morning. Very happy that it was recorded. And we're caught in the middle of some beautiful Zion Williamson conversation. He's a monster.
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Starting point is 00:04:42 fuck i'm looking at a fucking tax return i don't know what the hell I'm doing. Stop. You're a life coach now. It's a big day. It is. It's a big deal. You know, my salary just increased quite a bit, so I'm pretty excited about it.
Starting point is 00:04:58 All right, let's get to it. You ready? Lady. Yeah, man. You can't see. I was about to give you an intro right there, and you just stopped. Do you have any pants on? I have give you an intro right there and you just get any pants on i have pants on yeah where are you are you in your house in your room where are you
Starting point is 00:05:11 no i'm at work working hard dude in a bank you're in a bank right now yeah man i'm in a credit union don't don't get us confused with those those pesky slimy banks we're credit union we're for the people here okay do you have a button downdown on and, like, khakis on? That's what I'm imagining. No, I got jeans and, like, a pullover-type deal. Well, I guess it's out in Iowa. Cats aren't out, though. I guess it's out in Iowa, so that's probably what they...
Starting point is 00:05:36 They would like you at a credit union to be a little relatable. Put the jeans on. Yeah, I just got to cover up the cats, you know? I just don't want to scare anybody. Those American tats, though, are something that is absolutely beautiful. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. I was thinking about getting an American flag tattoo on my arm.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I thought about you a lot. You should. Well, I think you have the best one. It ties in the best, you know? It looks like it's very patriotic, but it also looks natural, you know? It feels natural, too. My problem was I just got a bunch of random tattoos, so then I had to figure out how to blend them all together
Starting point is 00:06:11 so I don't look super white trash, but I still kind of look a little bit white trash, so I fit in at family reunions and stuff. Yeah, because you don't want to sell out your people. Absolutely, man. No, definitely not. Especially now that you're a big corporate credit union guy. Yeah. Didn't you get a prison tat Don't you have an at home tattoo somewhere on you
Starting point is 00:06:30 I got a what Didn't you get like a prison tat like an at home tattoo gun Yeah yeah my brother got My older brother that's older than me He got a tattoo gun And he went to town Went to town on the kitchen table one night How old were you
Starting point is 00:06:47 when that happened uh i was like eight no this was when i was in college was this in the first year was this in the first two years when you weren't playing you were drinking too much fighting people and being an asshole as george kidittle called it? Yeah, that's pretty much. Yeah, I was doing a lot of stuff. I didn't leave out the don't get tattoos because you've got to get tatted up. George Kittle is tatted up, by the way, I think.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I think he is tatted up. He's tatted and he's spatted. White boy tatted, white boy's spatted, man. He's looking good. You Iowa people are just a whole other breed of human. You know that. You mean that? That's a good thing, man. He's looking good. You Iowa people are just a whole other breed of human. You know that. You mean that? That's a good thing, right?
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yes. I don't think I've, and I talked about this, about Mitch King, A.J. Eads, now there's George Kittle character, Dallas Clark. Bob Sanders never talked to me. I don't think he talked to anybody. But it seems as if the Iowa people are just good people. I appreciate that. You know, we're pretty down to earth.
Starting point is 00:07:45 We're pretty much down for whatever. We're going to work hard. We're going to fight, you know, and we like to drink our beer. We like to have a good time. We also like to work hard and play hard. So, yeah, it was a good spot, man. There's good people here. I tell you, Indiana's good, too.
Starting point is 00:07:57 You know, I don't talk a lot about how much I enjoy my time in Indy. I really like the people there. It's a lot like Iowa. about how much I enjoy my time in Indy. I really like the people there. It's a lot like Iowa. Do you reflect fondly upon your time in the NFL? Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I mean, there's a lot of good times there. I mean, I think about it quite a bit, you know, especially when you're at home watching the games and you're seeing guys that you know and that you played with. Yeah, man, it was fun. We had a lot of good times on that field, especially slapping Snow's ass out there on punt and him getting all pissed. I feel like we did have a good time. Our team had a good rapport in there.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yeah, for as much as we lost, we had a good time. What's the highlight of your NFL career? What'd you time. What's the highlight of your NFL career? What did you say? What's the highlight of your NFL career? Oh, man. Highlight? Yeah, yeah. I mean, playing with you, other than that.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I respect that. I don't know, man. I tell you what. We had fun. And, you know, the first couple of years were really good. And, you know, I played pretty well. And I try to remember those years, those good times, and the last couple of years kind of sucked as far as getting hurt and all that.
Starting point is 00:09:12 But just playing hard and making plays and making tackles and celebrating and dicking around and having a good time, those were pretty good times, man. Do you remember whenever you told George K kittle that exact uh life lesson because whenever he said it i was like oh that sounds like it's straight out of pat anger's mouth and he was like yeah pat probably doesn't remember this so it was at 6 a.m it was a 15 second conversation i'm sure he'll never remember did you remember ever saying that or whenever he said that story the other day on the show you're like oh good for me no actually you know what i do um Because I was back there, you know, because I wanted to get in strength conditioning.
Starting point is 00:09:48 So I was back there learning from Coach Doyle. And, you know, I was in there on the lifts and, you know, walk around like I was all tough. And, you know, all that, the strength conditioning stuff that you do. He came over and was like, hey, you know, what changed for you? Yeah, because I didn't know that. Hold on, though. By the way, I didn't know this. That's your first two years at Iowa. You weren't shit. I didn't know that. Hold on, though. By the way, I didn't know this. That's your first two years at Iowa.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You weren't shit. I didn't know that. I figured you were a stud. No, I didn't start until like the third or fourth game my junior year. Really? So you were just a practice squad All-American there for a while? I was pretty much like a bar drinking All-American, you know. I mean, I always worked hard, and I always did.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I always worked hard in the weight room and on the field and stuff. But, you know, I'd burn the candle at both ends, and I wasn't good enough to where I could, you know, balance it both. And, you know, I had a lot of injuries. So my first two years, Abdul Hodge and Chad Greenway were the linebackers. Or my first year, Abdul Hodge and Chad Greenway, those guys went to the NFL. Those guys are awesome. Greenway played for like 100 years, made a billion tackles.
Starting point is 00:10:46 And then the next two years, there were two other guys that were very good, Mike Humple and Mike Klinkenberg. So, you know, I came in right away, and I'm like, well, hey, you know, I'm just going to hang out and have a good time, and I'll play, you know, when I'm a junior and, you know, all that stuff. So I didn't take it. I didn't prepare like I was a starter right away like I should have. And, you know, it kind of, in my sophomore year,
Starting point is 00:11:08 like everybody on the team got hurt, except for me and a true freshman. And they're like, hey, and they were trying to figure out who they needed to put in. And instead of putting me in, they put in this true freshman, burned this true freshman's red shirt. So after that, I was going to quit. I was like, screw this. I'm going to join the military, kill a bunch of Taliban and, you know, be done with it. And, you know, instead of, you know, instead of being like, yeah, it's everybody else's fault. I'm not playing,
Starting point is 00:11:33 you know, this is bullshit. I'm getting screwed over. I looked myself in the mirror. I was like, hey, dumbass, why don't you fix what you're doing and, you know, start doing things the right way. And that's kind of what I did. And, you know, that's kind of how I, you know, what I told George is like, you know, it sucks not playing, but you kind of got to look at yourself and look in the mirror and say, hey, you know, this is what I got to change. And for me, I had to make Iowa football the most important thing in my life. And once I started doing that, that's when I started having success.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Holy shit. Hey, that was a real statement you just said. That was a real-life lesson you just delivered right there. You like that, man? I'm a life coach now. I charge by the hour. What's your rate? What do you got?
Starting point is 00:12:16 Are you getting into professional wrestling right now? I did do a show up in Iowa City, and I got talked into a tag team match, so I'll be doing that. But I'm very fat, very out of shape, and I was in the ring for maybe, you know, a couple minutes, maybe like a minute at that show, and I was exhausted. Did you get the win?
Starting point is 00:12:47 Well, an Iowa guy was in there, and he got jumped by these two guys, vicious and delicious, real dirty guys, cheap, bad guys. So I had to jump in the ring and I'm like, Hey man, get off my boy. So they acted like they're leaving the ring and then they jumped me. So I had to whoop their ass. Of course you did, Pat. You're not just going to take it standing, take it laying down from vicious and delicious. You're not just going to take it standing, take it laying down from Vicious and Delicious. You're damn right. I'm not going to just sit there and let these dudes try to mess with me. I'm going to whoop their ass. And that's what I did.
Starting point is 00:13:13 We tossed them out of the ring, and now they got a little tag team match. And, you know, they're going to get the boot to them. Because I whooped them. I was going on. I was like on four years of Bush Light. Now I'm on two weeks of clean eating. They're pretty screwed. What if you become a professional wrestler what if you fall in love with what you're about to do with vicious and delicious and all of a sudden this is like you're the new stone cold
Starting point is 00:13:33 steve austin i'd say well i think i got about one match in me and i'm good those guys those guys work hard their travel schedule is ridiculous um i don't know if I got it in me. And then you can't swear, which is hard, obviously. I don't know how they do that. I don't know how when you're announcing, I don't know how you don't swear all the time. I'll tell you what. We have like seven rehearsals before that show starts,
Starting point is 00:13:56 and they try to get it all out of me before it even starts. And then when it goes live, there's somebody in my ear that's like, remember, this is a family show. And then it's like, we're on. It's like, it's a running, it's almost a running joke.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Like, am I going to drop a fuck on the WWE network? It's a wild scene. It's a wild, there's a lot of money in it though. I think you'd be a good character. It'd be fun, man.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It would definitely be a good time. But yeah, I mean, you're like me. Like, we grew up watching that stuff. We grew up loving it. And to even just be in the ring just for a little bit like is like a dream you know even if it's just a you know it's just a small show that's like what we are i mean that's
Starting point is 00:14:33 like what we wanted to do growing up i didn't want to be a football player i wanted to be a hulk hogan you know i mean that's that's what we grew up watching and uh you know it was kind of it was cool being in the ring because it brought me back to to playing and you know it brought back those same emotions which which was which was pretty fun you know look at you a little nostalgia little glory days in there by the way you're you're 100 right i did grow up wanting to be a professional wrestler and i'm one to know i took on a guy named war pig coming out of college before i got drafted down in an armory down in charleston west virginia i'm undefeated who's next don't know if you ever heard that tagline it's my tagline in wrestling who's next i'm still undefeated
Starting point is 00:15:13 you're taking on the world man i like it i'm trying i like it i'm not a life coach though like you like george kittle might go on to be an all-pro, like literally a consummate all-pro. And he says he is on record of saying that he's excited. Travis Kelsey follows him. And then on the complete opposite side of that, the man that turned his complete life around was Pat Anger. I just told him not to be an asshole. It's crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It's crazy. What's crazy is I'm still an asshole, and I still drink a lot, and I don't sleep very well. So, I mean, I don't know. My life's a mess right now. Yeah, but you're retired and you're working in banks. Sorry, credit unions. Credit unions, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:53 We're for the members here, Pat. We're not all these filthy banks. We're here for the members. We're community. We're good people here. Do you watch any NFL at all on weekends? I do. You know, this was the first year. So I'm not, I coached high school a couple of years when I, when I got out and this is the first year I'm not
Starting point is 00:16:10 coaching. And this is the first year, like I really, truly enjoyed just sitting down and watching football. I'm really having a good time with it. And it's, it's a great year to watch it, man. Those, uh, those running backs are unreal. You know, you got, you know, Hunt and Gurley and all those guys. I mean, those guys are just phenomenal. I've probably had more fun watching football than I have my whole life because, you know, when you're playing, you're doing it all day, and the last thing you want to do when you get home is freaking watch football. But now I just really, truly enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:16:40 It's been a really fun year. Do you watch the linebackers heavily? Like are you, from watching all those years of film, do you just naturally draw yourself to watching the linebackers? Sometimes I'll catch myself being like, oh, they're in this coverage, or the offense is going to do this. But for the most part, because that gets exhausting, for the most part I just like to watch the ball like every other idiot
Starting point is 00:17:02 and just kind of enjoy it. I don't want to get too caught up into trying to decipher what the hell they're doing. But yeah, sometimes I get caught up watching linebackers. There's some good linebackers out there. Jason Witten tries his best to decipher what's going on. That motherfucker ain't got no clue. I don't know how he was so good in the league.
Starting point is 00:17:19 He got no clue what's going on in that field. You know why he was really good? Because dudes like me were guarding him. That's why he was good. I'd be looking back at Anton and be like, hey, what am I supposed to do here? Turn around, don't match, you're supposed to guard that guy. I'm like, okay, alright.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Jason Witten's telling these stories at his family about how he roasted this guy who is the leader in NFL sacks and currently the tag team champion of Iowa, Pat Angra. Yeah, man, it's a crazy life. It's a crazy ride, man. It's just, you know, I'm here. I'm encouraging people's life.
Starting point is 00:18:01 The only people, my only clients are all pro tight ends. Not to mention I'm a tag team champ. I mean, it's a wild ride. And I'll get you the best rate you can get on a mortgage. Are you going to work forever? No, man. I'm just going to ride this life coach out for a while and then probably just retire right off into the sunset,
Starting point is 00:18:26 buy some six shooters, get a horse, and just go out west. Didn't you say you and your friends in the offseason took a trip to Tombstone or something? Didn't you? You had a friend who was in the military, came back. You guys went out into the desert and shot a bunch of guys. Was that you? Am I right?
Starting point is 00:18:44 Yeah. So when my buddy would get back from Afghanistan, we got an RV up in Minnesota, because that's where one of my other buddies was living. So we got an RV up in Minnesota. We drove all the way down to Tombstone, Arizona. And the last thing you probably want to do with a guy who's just getting back from war
Starting point is 00:19:01 is lock him in an RV for 24 hours with a bunch of booze. It's probably not the best idea, but it was a blast. We had a good time, went down to Tombstone, met some cowboys, went to shoot some guns, and probably wanted some police down there, but we got out alive. That's absurd. People spend their off-season getting married, traveling to the beach, Pat Anger hopped in an RV in Minnesota with a veteran, drove to the desert, shot a bunch of guns, drove back.
Starting point is 00:19:32 They'd always get us, like, you know, we'd be leaving the bar at like 2 in the morning or whatever, and there'd always be some, like, psychic down there. So we'd pay a bunch of money, and they'd have us talk to, like, these old, like, cowboy spirits and stuff. It's a pretty wild ride. So we'd we talked to you ever watched that tombstone movie doc holiday we talked to doc we talked to all those guys man pretty wise pretty crazy what did doc have to say anything awesome he respects us he likes us and i think if we paid them a little
Starting point is 00:20:02 bit more he probably would respect us a little bit more as well. I have a question. Is this something I could go do? I can go to this old town in the middle of the desert and live like I live in a Western movie? Dude, you should go to Tim Stone, man. It's awesome. Absolutely, anybody can go to it.
Starting point is 00:20:17 It's an old Western town, man. It's awesome. What do you do? It's about an hour and a half away from Tucson. And it's like there's saloons and duels and shit? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's guns getting shot off there all the time,
Starting point is 00:20:31 which was also, you know, you got a guy who's just come back from war and there's random gun shots going off. It's probably not the best idea either. All right. You get back to your taxes, man. When are we going to Tombstone? I'll get the RV, bro. All right. You get back to your taxes, man. When are we going to Tombstone? I'll get the RV, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:48 All right. Perfect. Hey, who's going to Super Bowl? Oh, God. I don't know. I'll tell you what. I like the Rams. I like the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:20:57 But I feel like the Pats are going to come on strong. They're probably going to end up winning it again. Did Tom Brady... Did you ever get an interception on Tom Brady? No, but he threw a lot of touchdown come on strong. They're probably going to end up winning it again. Did Tom Brady... Did you ever get an interception on Tom Brady? No, but he threw a lot of touchdowns on me, which wasn't very nice. You got to pick off Peyton Manning there, right? Yeah, but that really wasn't anything I did.
Starting point is 00:21:17 You know, it was... I think Walden tackled him, and then it just kind of fell on my lap, and everybody was like, get down, you slow ass. Did they make fun of you for being a Caucasian thereian there or just slow ass no no they didn't i mean usually they do but it was mainly just get down and don't ruin this game for us like you already almost have didn't aaron you got a pick from aaron rogers too didn't you no i got a i got a pick from
Starting point is 00:21:41 um aaron rogers scored touchdown on me but i got a pick i got a pick from uh umgers scored touchdown on me, but I got a pick from Hasselbeck. Oh, yes, and when he was at Tennessee, and then he joined the team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is there a conversation there between you two or no? Like when Trinden Holliday, after my tackle against him, he came and worked out for the Colts like a few weeks later, and he wouldn't talk to me. Like I wanted to go talk to him, and he wouldn't talk to me.
Starting point is 00:22:04 He was like, stay off on his own. Hasselbeck. Really? Yeah, Hasselbeck. There was a – Grigson, whenever he got there, he wiped out all the pictures of anything that happened before he got there, all the captain's pictures, everything like that. He put up only new pictures from new guys.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And 15 out of the 20 pictures were either Charlie Whitehurst or Matt Hasselbeck getting tackled, and they both ended up on our team. They both ended up on our team, and he would just have to walk by those photos every day. It was awesome. It was absolutely awesome. No, you know, Matt's a very humble guy, and he's a good dude. He didn't, you know, we're fine.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I mean, he's a good enough player, man enough money, I don't think he really cares that much about it. How about he's on ESPN right now? Do you watch any of our former teammates that are on the TV and judge them at all? Yeah, I think those guys do good, man. I think Matt does awesome. I wish he would be on more games.
Starting point is 00:22:52 He does a good job. And then Reggie does good on TV as well. Dan Arvlosky, unreal. He's awesome as well. I mean, those guys do it right. Did you ever talk to Reggie when they were... They need to get you on there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Do you ever talk to Reggie? Yeah need to get you on there. Do you ever talk to Reggie? Yeah, I mean, I know he hates you. He never talks. Like most everybody else. Man, I don't understand why he never talked. Eight years, we were teammates for seven years. Not a one conversation. How's that happen?
Starting point is 00:23:20 Weren't you stuck on a plane next to him once? He didn't say what he did. He was two rows behind me. He was two rows behind me. He was two rows behind me, and I was like woken up by him talking in such a jovial manner with this old white guy who I thought was his agent. Nope, he just met him. Just met him. Had this whole conversation with the guy.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I'm like, yeah, I've showered with you like four times. No, Reggie was cool. He talked to me mainly because I was hurt all the time, so we were in the training room together. So, you know, you just didn't get hurt enough. You got to get hurt more. That's how you get it in with those guys. Reggie does well on TV, though.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I think he's good on TV. He does a good job, man. He's a good dude. Freeney also good on TV. Freeney can talk. He's smooth. He is, and he's one of the best to ever play football, too. Yeah, it helps
Starting point is 00:24:06 Jeff Saturday Does a good job as well Great eyes Beautiful smile Nice hair Skinny He's much skinnier Than you or I right now
Starting point is 00:24:14 Yeah I'm pretty fat man Pretty fat Are you really Or is this like You just being hard on yourself I don't know I mean I try to keep my shirt On as much as I can
Starting point is 00:24:24 But I don't know I'm probably like I don't know 235 mean, I try to keep my shirt on as much as I can. But I'm probably like, I don't know, 235 or so, 240. I'm 240 right now as well. You're a beast. I'm trying, man. I'm trying to get in that ring.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Do you need a life coach or a taxing partner? All right, what? Listen, we're going to end this with a life coaching speech from you to me, bud. You need the five pillars of life that I live by? Yep, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Right now, please. All right, well, maybe four. Let me see what I can think of. Don't crap where you eat. Okay, don't crap where I eat. Like dogs, got it. Keep deodorant in your car. Deodorant in the car, you never know.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Never trust a born again Christian Because they did something that was bad Exactly Don't ever trust them Don't ever Don't you ever let another man squirt water in your mouth You had a tweet two weeks ago You said, the league is filled with guys that I like
Starting point is 00:25:24 And then guys who let other men squirt water in their mouth. It was incredible. It's the worst, man. Just grab the water bottle like a real man. And then here's the last one. I'd say don't get a neck tattoo unless you got $5 million. Neck tat, $5 million. Got it.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Okay, so we don't crap where you eat. Deodorant in the car. Never. I didn't crap where you eat. Deodorant in the car. Never. I didn't write that one down. Four, don't let guys squirt water in your mouth. Neck tattoo. Minimum $5 million. Never trust a born-again Christian.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yeah, yeah, that's true. Let me write that one down. Because you remember that guy we had, the D-lineman, the white D-lineman that read the Bible every single day? Yeah, that was really scary looking. Was it a different one? Yes, him. He was very scary, but he read the Bible literally in the hot tub, in the cold tub, in the training room,
Starting point is 00:26:14 in the hotel, on the bus. I thought he made a deal with God. Like, if you get me out of this, I will be the most religious human of all time. I thought for sure that happened. I'm like, this guy killed a guy. For sure he killed a guy. The complete opposite of Z zibikowski which is why me and zibby were probably better friends zibby zibby what do you talk to him now you know what he came back he came back into town uh one of my buddies we talked about before who you know had had a heart attack
Starting point is 00:26:41 and ended up was in a coma for a while we were in a parade and zibby called me he's like hey i want to meet him so he drove down from uh chicago uh the morning of 4th of july and came down just to shake his hand and say hello and then drove back up that's pretty cool man how is he he's doing good man i think he's gonna be boxing or do mma or something i think he's clean right i think he he had a whole 30 for 30 about how, or maybe not a 30 for 30. There was some story that came. First day I met him coming into training camp, sitting in the lobby of Anderson,
Starting point is 00:27:12 it was probably 11.30 a.m., first day of training camp. He was on his third Guinness beer. It was one of the most impressive things I've ever seen in my entire life. I walked in, and he's like, oh, what's up, my name's Tom or, and he's like, oh, what's up? My name's Tom or whatever. I'm like, oh, what's up? My name's Pat.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And he was like, there's two crumpled up Guinness cans next to him, and he's holding a third. I'm like, this is the first day of training camp. I'm like, this dude is on another fucking level. This guy is an animal. He was a good player, too. Yeah, he was good. You know what I think?
Starting point is 00:27:43 He used to always go out before games when we were away and be like, hey, Pat, you want to come out there? I'm like, no, dude. You know, and I think he used to always go out, like, before games, when we were away, and be like, hey, Pat, you want to come out there? I'm like, no, dude, I got enough problems. But, you know, he's doing well, man. Tom's a good dude. He's a good guy, and, you know, obviously he had, you know, some demons. But he's doing good, man. I'm happy for Tom.
Starting point is 00:27:59 You got to get him on the show. I know. That's what I'm – in my head, that's what I'm thinking right now. I like Tom a lot. I like Zybikowski a lot. He's a good dude. I liked him a lot. Great dude.
Starting point is 00:28:07 He was a lunatic, though, for sure. He was an undefeated boxer whenever he was playing for the Colts. He had a fight in college in Madison Square Garden when he was in Notre Dame. He went out there and knocked a guy out in the first round and got like 50 grand from it. He was a college football player. He was a Golden Gloves champ, wasn't he? Yeah, I think he's like an undefeated boxer, like an actual undefeated boxer, which would be...
Starting point is 00:28:27 He's badass. It would be nice to have that just hanging in the mantle, by the way. It's better to be an amateur tag team champ. I think that's just you kind of spinning that life coach thing for yourself there. I think you're just kind of... All right, man. All right, Kid Rock. Hey, Kid Rock still your favorite musician,
Starting point is 00:28:46 or have you moved on? I like Kid Rock, Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Waylon Jennings. What a man you are. I tell you what, Eric Church is solid. I don't know much about Eric Church. He's cool. Well, see you later, Pat.
Starting point is 00:29:06 All right, man. I love you, brother. Have a good time, man. You too. You're the best. See later, Pat Alright, man, I love you, brother Have a good time, man You too, you're the best, see you, Pat See you, man That's the most ridiculous conversation I think I've ever had in my entire life That was good They literally, he gets back, we get back into OTAs Or whatever, and it's kind of like the first day of school
Starting point is 00:29:24 Where everybody's like, oh, what you doing this summer? What you doing this summer? And he sat down next to me. I was like, how was your break? He was like, I went down to this Western town. I was like, what do you mean? He's like, my friend got back from Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So we got in an RV. We went down to the desert. We shot a bunch of guns. Like we were in a Western movie and we just had a good time. Of all the things. I'm like, are you kidding me right now? He's like, yeah, no big deal. I was like, no big deal that's a hysterical pat anger is the he is an american he is an american's american that guy american flag tattoos all over prison tats
Starting point is 00:29:55 whenever he's in college how about when he say he's eight years old that's the guy who shaped george kittle's life that's the guy that is going to make george kittle possibly be one of the greatest tight ends in NFL history. That guy right there. Tag team champ. Dude, he was a legend. Speaks well too. Maybe he could be in the WWE. I think he would be loved in the WWE by the way. Good character. He would be loved
Starting point is 00:30:16 in the WWE. It's a lot of work though. It seems like he's past the physical work part of his life. It seems like their schedule is crazy, but if vicious and delicious want to get one i love pat anger i'm so thankful he joined us incredible just relaxed conversation while he's midday at the credit union for those of you who don't know much about pat anger who was a teammate of mine led the nfl in tackles for a year, was a second round draft pick for the Indianapolis Colts
Starting point is 00:30:45 as a middle linebacker. He's also just an outstanding human being. Here's a little throwback Thursday clip from the first time Pat Enger was on my show. I was hoping we'd talk about the naked locker room fight, but we can save that for
Starting point is 00:31:01 another time. I didn't know if you wanted me to bring it up or not. I didn't know if you wanted me to bring that up or not i didn't know if you wanted me to bring that up or not it's a pretty funny deal pat anger big time mma guy love is like he big time tough grit guy and he was involved in one of the most action-packed nude brawls i've ever seen in a locker room let's hear about it yeah if you'd like to talk about it pat please go ahead yeah so i walk in a locker room. Let's hear about it. If you'd like to talk about it, Pat, please go ahead. Yeah, so I walk in the locker room, and this is during my whole surgery thing. And this was, I think I had three surgeries in one month. So I was just kind of pissed off.
Starting point is 00:31:33 And I was about a month out of that. And I was just kind of mad. And I walk in the locker room, and Dwayne's talking to Free, and they're arguing. Dwayne Allen. And I'm like, yeah. And I like Dwayne. I don't want this to be anything bad about Dwayne. Dwayne's a good guy.
Starting point is 00:31:47 But, you know, he's talking about Frio. He's the best tight end in the league and all this shit. And I'm like, dude, shut up, man. And he goes, shut up, man. You don't even play. So I'm like, oh, shit. I got to punch this guy. And he's 280 at the time.
Starting point is 00:32:04 So I try to punch him. I don't think it even hits or does anything, and he tackles me, and everybody kind of comes on top of me, and I see it looks like his arm's broken, and so I come out the side, and I'm like, oh, shit. Well, it turns out he was in a towel when we started fighting, and it wasn't his arm that was broken. It was his big wiener. But he was in a towel when we started fighting, and it wasn't his arm that was broken.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It was his big wiener. And the worst thing about it is, you know, I ended up with a black eye and herpes. Luckily, you didn't go for an armbar there. Yeah, no shit. His dick had an elbow. Did you white guys try to shower together? well I remember after that everybody's kind of you know it was kind of funny and blah blah blah
Starting point is 00:32:50 so I'm in the shower I'm with Pat Pat was the only one that would talk to me after that and I'm like you good? I'm like yeah man I just don't want to get in trouble you looked at me you looked at my pathetic body and my tiny wiener and were like nah you're good, man.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Because Anthony Costanzo was naked as a motherfucker, too. He was trying to break it up. So it was Dwayne Allen who was, like, too 80 at the time. Anthony Costanzo, it happened in his corner where he was. He just got out of the shower. He's 6'7", 300, and probably 25, 30 pounds. And then he got a little Pat Angerer in there just throwing. And it was literally a sea of naked humans.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And I'm just sitting in the middle of the locker room looking at it like, who's going to break this? Who? I want full disclosure. I had my clothes on. I want to go full disclosure. I was fully clothed. See, you were just under all the nude.
Starting point is 00:33:43 But if I would have known, if I would have known it was going to be a naked thing, I would have made sure to drop my drawers prior to. Now every time I get in a fight, I make sure I take my pants off. Pat, go fuck yourself. We've got to get to a break. Hey, love you, brother. Hey, love you too, man. We need to talk to a break. Hey, love you, brother. Hey. Take care of me all, man. Hey, love you too, man. We need to talk to you soon.
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Starting point is 00:34:22 That's what I meant to say. So it's actually 50% not off, but on. When you use promo code PAT at mybookie.ag, up to $1,000. Let's go. We bankrupt my bookie. That's our job. This whole 50 thing is really, really fucked with my head. I mean, it's changed the whole script for you to read every single day. You're in a bad spot. You get used to a thing for eight weeks.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yep. Then they go ahead and throw a curveball at you. Fucking flip the switch. Here's a curveball midweek. It's the greatest day of the week. It is the greatest day of the week. Would be a real shame Wednesday. I'll go first. Go ahead. Go first. Would be a real shame if Chuck Pagano and Bruce Arians get back into the coaching ranks in Cleveland. Bruce Arians, head coach and offensive coordinator. Chuck Pagano, D coordinator. They got Baker Mayfield.
Starting point is 00:35:10 They got some pieces on defense. All of a sudden, that team gets really good, really quick. And listen, Chuck Pagano will give press conferences talking about our defense. I mean, we're the Browns. This is the dog pound. We've shucked for 45 years, but we're going to be better. Bruce Arians, I'll tell you what, motherfucker. Hey, motherfucker, you're going to is the dog pound. We've shocked for 45 years, but we're going to be better. Bruce Arians, I'll tell you what, motherfucker. Hey, motherfucker, you're going to throw the ball
Starting point is 00:35:28 away. That would be an electric coaching staff in Cleveland. Do you think Chuck would be cool with the old swoop-dee-doo from head coach to coordinator? Oh, yeah. A lot of people do it. You see it all the time. You literally see, there's guys that, Cable, I think, was a head coach for the Raiders, and now he's the offensive
Starting point is 00:35:44 line coach back at the Raiders. now he's the offensive line coach back at the Raiders that's the coaching that's the way the coaching world is sometimes you got to take a job as a coordinator to become a head coach again Jim Caldwell did it in Baltimore after he left the Colts went to Detroit it's just the way it goes until you get back in a coaching tree but Bruce and Chuck I think they get along well so they would bring their their ragtag group of friends in there to coach that the Colts had. There was a lot of success there early. Bruce Arians and Chuck, good minds there. I'll be excited to see what happens.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Would be a real shame if Lev Bell sat out three months only to be hurt because some fucking Joe Sunday is at an L.A. Fitness, takes out his knees. Some L.A. Fitness All-American comes in flying on the wrapper. Lev's going out. Local wrapper injured at local LA Fitness. If he's going out for a layup and someone wants to play hero and take out his knees,
Starting point is 00:36:35 that'd be a real shame. Especially now everybody watches basketball. They feel like they're experts. Oh yeah, for sure. Block, block, taking charges and shit to Lev Bell. Unbelievable. Don't want to do it to Zion Williamson, by the way. Don't take a charge on Zion. Lev Bell, though, he is also a little stout. He looks a little stout.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I think it's a genius move because there's no better shape than basketball shape. It's real cardio. And there's no better way to get your confidence back than dunking on Sandy Lyle at the L.A. Fitness. Yenzers at the Bridgeville LA Fitness. I couldn't even fathom their reaction. Is that fucking Lev? Lev Belzer. Is he playing? We want him on our team.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Do you? I thought you said you hated him just two days ago. I would like him on my basketball team. It's kind of like the football thing. I'd like him on the football team no matter how much we hate him. I would treat him like my basketball team. It's kind of like the football thing. Yeah, I'd like him on the football team no matter how much we hate him. Right? I mean, that's kind of the way it goes. Do you imagine covering him? Like, I would treat him like he is a glass vase.
Starting point is 00:37:28 First of all, I would never cover him. I would never get put in a position to cover him because I feel like I outsmart those pickup basketball games. Yo, we're running zone this game. Yep. I make deals with people before games. Excuse me, are you a runner or not? Yeah, we're not going to.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Oh, you are? You give a lot of effort? That's cool. This is not for me. I'm going to go get somebody else. You know what I mean? When we did the lockout, when the owners locked us out, LA Fitness is where I went and did cardio.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I actually played pickup games. Nobody had a clue who I was. I had a great time out there. That's great cardio. Great. Great idea. Great idea. I like what Lev's doing.
Starting point is 00:38:02 And he's in Pittsburgh. Yep, he's there. I told you, I showed you the other day the flight, the private flight that he took from Miami to Pittsburgh. You saw the tail number. Connecting dots. Scoops McGee. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Would be a real shame, and this is an alley-oop to you, if Drew Brees got another weapon out there just to continue this MVP season that he's definitely on. Yeah, it would. Throw up the X down in New Orleans. Throw some beads. Throw up the X and throw an MVP to New Orleans. That's what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Their second best wide receiver was their running back and then a tight end, and now they have Dez. Drew's going to win MVP. Probably going to win a Super Bowl. Dumb kids are going to be on stage again. And I assume there's something that Dez – I know. Why'd you have something that Des – I don't know. Why did you have to mention him?
Starting point is 00:38:47 I didn't. Those kids are going to probably go to, like, Harvard or Yale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going to be the next Zuckerberg probably. I bet you this is – like, Drew Brees' kids are going to be the next Zuckerberg. Yeah, for sure. I forget what I was going to say. Oh, I'm sure there's something that Des could teach Mike Thomas too, right?
Starting point is 00:39:03 Mike Thomas is an incredible wide receiver incredible wide receiver but for that many years in the NFL there has to be some sort of football IQ that he can relay to Mike Thomas to make Mike Thomas even better whether it's the timing of when he puts up his hands so that corners can see when the ball is coming maybe it's like eye discipline or maybe it's just something small that Dez has picked up over his career. It'd be interesting to see if Dez Bryant's going to be like one of those veterans who comes in and Mike Thomas is like, I've learned so much from him. I've never thought of Dez as a teacher, but maybe.
Starting point is 00:39:35 You never know. Maybe he's learned. By the way, it would be a real shame if Dez tweeted to me that he's going to come on the show and then never comes on the show. That'd be a real shame. Would be a real shame. Now we've got to go through Saints PR. He ain't going to teach shit, by the way. He tweeted me saying he's going to come on the show and never. He's a liar. That'd be a real shame. Now we've got to go through Saints PR. He ain't going to teach shit.
Starting point is 00:39:46 He tweeted me saying he's going to come on the show and never. He's a liar. Not a man of his word, apparently. I hope he does well, though. It'd be a real shame if Mitch Trubisky and Nick Mullins weren't able Mitchell Trubisky and Nick Mullins weren't able to overcome Romo-i-itis.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Come again? What's Romo-i-itis? It's a rare condition it's only three quarterbacks have ever had it it's when your eyes are so beady you can't put up a picture of all three of them next to each other look at the fucking eyes all the same Romo ass eyes Romoitis. You're prone to terrible decisions. You throw a very interceptable ball. Your bones are like glass. Like Nick Moraldos.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Your ball security is terrible. His clavicle didn't hear it, though, because that thing is too soft. It would just be a real shame if they couldn't overcome that disease. But with advancements in medical, modern medicine. LASIK, yeah, you can do something with your eyes. I think they're going to be okay. Wait until you see the picture of these three together. Is Mitchell Trubisky good?
Starting point is 00:40:51 No, he's – so, like, they also – Tariq Cohen, show his tweet. He went after somebody for going after Mitchell Trubisky. They stopped talking about my quarterback. It was like a Terrell Owens moment. But then a lot of people started chiming in on whether or not Trubisky was good or not. I don't know. Part of this disease is you're good enough to be there for 10 years, so your team never wins.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Side effects. But they also don't sign a new quarterback. These are all side effects. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like the commercial, like, be a starting quarterback in the NFL. You could possibly throw a lot of interceptions. You could also probably stick around for a long time but never actually win. Be an NFL quarterback. Yep. You got one more for you? Be a real shame. could also probably stick around for a long time but never actually win be an nfl quarterback yep
Starting point is 00:41:26 you got one one more for you be a real shame if uh the los angeles rams didn't just hop back on to the winning side of things after losing to a des bryantless saints last week uh because i i went on quite a little run about the los Angeles Rams being the new standard for football, and it would be a real shame if I had to look like a complete idiot. They are 10-point faves against the Russell Wilson-led Seahawks. They're bad, huh? The Seahawks are bad. I can't figure them out. Janikowski and Dixon are still doing it.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Yeah, they're great for the brand. Great for the brand. Last one. It'd be a real shame if the Giants handled this Kyle Lauletta internal punishment wrong. What happened? So he's the backup quarterback who got arrested last week for
Starting point is 00:42:15 a little road rage. Got into it with a cop. The Giants need that. The Giants need a little road rage. So my idea for the internal punishment was to start him at quarterback. But why is starting a quarterback for an NFL franchise a punishment? Well, because their O-line is fucking terrible. Terrible.
Starting point is 00:42:34 31 sacks. Eli's been sacked 31 times. Yeah, he's a statue. He doesn't know how to move. He's a walking sack. But he's done. Eli's done. He's dead.
Starting point is 00:42:44 He's never coming back. So you might as well put Lauletta in there. With his little rage. He's got a little bit of scramble ability, too. More than Eli. You see if you have any future because you're going to be picking the top five again. See if you need to take a quarterback. The Manning PR.
Starting point is 00:42:57 The Manning PR, as soon as that happens. They'll probably push that arrest out even more. They'll find video of him doing something. Well, Eli can't even blame this on neck fusion surgery. Who could? The other one. No, I don't want to talk about him. He's a god here.
Starting point is 00:43:11 He has a statue. Well, it'd be a real shame if you pissed off an entire state. I don't want to do that. With your loose lips. The state's starting to grow on me. It's a good place, man. We've got a lot of good laws here, too. Michigan's got the best law that just got passed, though. A couple hours. Just a couple hours, man. We've got a lot of good laws here, too. Michigan's got the best law that just got passed.
Starting point is 00:43:25 A couple hours. Just a couple hours, man. Good for them. Be a real shame if you didn't come watch the show and listen to the show tomorrow. Yep. We got more incredible heater takes. Oh, the picks. Hey, last week we made a lot of people a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Let's do it again. Adios. No, we didn't, by the way. We picked the Raiders last week. They didn't. We'll do better than we did last week. They didn't remember. We interrupt this program to let you know that two Italians were just speaking about football.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Two Italians. Anthony DiGilio. Yep. Diggs, the part of Diggs of Quick Hits with Pat and Diggs. And Pat, that other part. And you know how I found out that I was Italian? 0.009% Italian. How's that?
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Starting point is 00:45:35 They send you an email. You click on it, and then everything's in there. They're like, did you know that you are more likely to have boom, boom, boom, than boom, boom, boom? And I'm like, no, I didn't. And then you check. You're like, oh, jeez. They're right.
Starting point is 00:45:46 They're 100% right. Did you know that Party View is from a place that organizes a lot of crime and mafia? And I'm like, oh, shit, no. I just found that out now. Also, great food. We have great food. We have great food, a beautiful culture, a lot of good history. I mean, I learned that about me from 23 and me. I love you. You should do it. Really, you should do it really you should do it i'm gonna try i honestly think i might be italian too so i'm gonna try that
Starting point is 00:46:11 i like pizza okay pasta and gambling i think that's all it takes to be italian you never know 23 and me maybe you should go spit in a tube foxy now through thanksgiving 23 and me ancestry service kits are only 49 per kit when you buy two or more kits so let me tell you why you buy two or more just like you want to experience this with somebody else so like sam and i sam and i did it was a lot of fun to kind of experience that because her mom is 100 korean south korean and she found the exact city that her mom was from and the answer it was really cool to see and then she learned about me being irish uh german and italian it was just it was a really cool moment where you really
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Starting point is 00:47:49 The internet is like dog years too. The internet is like dog years. Yeah, so. So like two months on the internet is a year. He's been on the internet for what seems to be, you go dog years, 14 years now. I feel like I've watched Zion Williamson grow from dunking on little white prep school kids in South Carolina
Starting point is 00:48:10 whenever he was just, what, 16, I guess? 16, 15? Until now. We had a guy who worked here. You were roommates with him. He considered himself a basketball analyst. He said he likes college basketball
Starting point is 00:48:26 and NBA basketball. Claims that he loves basketball. I know nothing really about it. I watch everyone until I know nothing about it but I'm on the internet so I was trying to like make have a conversation like a friendship with him. I'm like oh that Zion Williamson kid is the truth or whatever I said to him. Just from seeing him on the
Starting point is 00:48:42 internet and knowing what to do. And this kid straight face Jake said, he's not going to do well in college. His game is only good against high schoolers. Not against college kids. I was like, he's been dunking from the foul line. What does little white kids have to do with him dunking from the foul line since he's 16 years old? He's 6'7", 280 pounds. He's 6'7", 280 pounds. He's 6'7", 280.
Starting point is 00:49:07 And he was shooting behind the arm. You're shooting threes. He can play, I'm convinced he can play any sport. He can do basketball. Honestly, I think you put hockey skates on him, he can do hockey. Obviously, obviously, he can play football. He can play left tackle, tight end, wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:49:24 I mean, I wouldn't put him there. He could be a starting left tackle somewhere. He could be a starting left tackle, tight end, wide receiver. I mean, I wouldn't put him there. He could be a starting left tackle somewhere. Yeah, he could be a starting left tackle. 6'7". He's 18. 280? Yeah, 6'7", 280. And he's got a 45-inch bird.
Starting point is 00:49:35 He'd be the best left tackle. Like, if you just go by scouting, if you go by what Al Davis did for the Raiders and what Ryan Grudson did for the Colts, which is just find the biggest, fastest, strongest guy. He'd be the first draft. He'd be the first pick of the draft. I think he's a top 10 pick in the NBA and the NFL after this year.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Top 10? I think he's going to be the number one pick. He can shoot, dribble, and pass. He can do everything. Jalen Rose this morning said to Greenberg. Oh. Did you hear this?
Starting point is 00:50:07 I think he said to me. Some of it, but I didn't see what he said. Dude, Greeny said, would Zion, he asked the question, would Zion start on the Fab Five? Yep. And Jalen Rose went on the run acting like, no, he wouldn't. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about right now? That's old school the back in my day
Starting point is 00:50:26 guys can be the worst how many times have you ever heard Charles Barkley say that the NBA today is harder than it gets back in my day dude
Starting point is 00:50:33 it's a back in my day exactly yeah but just not having no I mean Grinney it's because he only played one game he only played one game
Starting point is 00:50:39 we only saw one game so I guess that's why they're acting that way but Grinney followed it up and said he's it up and said, he's bigger than LeBron, he's taller than LeBron, and last night he just did everything. But even if they just played one game, if Zion Williamson gets hurt tomorrow and he's done for the season, at the end of the season, Zion Williamson is still the best basketball player we saw all year. He's so good.
Starting point is 00:51:02 And did you see his interview? No, I didn't. He was like a giddy little kid. They said he's like the funniest guy on the team. He's like a giddy little kid. He was just like playing basketball. Giggled a couple times. You haven't been ruined yet by the corporate business side.
Starting point is 00:51:15 1.7 million Instagram followers. Oh, he's been here. He follows him. All these famous people follow him. Zion is a Disney Channel movie name too. You're going to say the name Zion? You can go anywhere. How does Coach K, all these years, all these NCAA basketball teams are getting hit with recruiting violations and paying people and all this shit.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Coach K dies this year. He has to. Coach K, at 100 years old, has just been good forever. There K dies this year. He has to. Coach K, at 100 years old, has just been good forever. There has to be something. It's Team USA. It's the USA. He basically runs USA basketball. I feel like he's at the top
Starting point is 00:51:55 of the mountain from that standpoint. So you think he has a head start on recruiting strictly because he's coach of the USA team? Head start on recruiting, and I think he knows the rules better than anybody. So if there are a little way to work your way around a rule, he would know what the rule is. I always wondered why football coaches...
Starting point is 00:52:15 Like, for instance, when Reggie Bush's parents or something were getting an apartment paid for by an uncle or by a booster, couldn't you just have the parents work for the booster and have them pay a salary of that? So, like, I'm not a... For sure. Because when I was in college, I think it was Oklahoma or Oklahoma State, some of them were working at a car dealership, and they were getting, like, 40 grand in the summer for working at a car dealership,
Starting point is 00:52:41 and they never showed up, and it was, like, this big deal. It was a huge thing. I don't remember if it was Oklahoma. It was somebody west of us. My brain is remembering west. I don't remember who it was though.
Starting point is 00:52:52 And it was like a big deal and I was like, well, why don't they just hire their parents? Just pay their parents. Just pay their parents. Especially because
Starting point is 00:52:59 I feel like those parents... No, but that gets around all the NCAA rules. It's like a legal option. You just... You just hire their parents. Yeah, you're hiring around all the NCAA rules. It's like a legal option. You just, you just hire the parents. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:53:07 you're hiring yourself. Like if a booster wanted to hire Tim and Sally McAfee and pay them $200,000, what, what,
Starting point is 00:53:15 how does the NCAA, they're like, oh, they're going to come after Tim McAfee? Because this guy wants, my dad would. Oh,
Starting point is 00:53:21 I'm a truck driver for fucking 15 years working with wood. Now somebody wants to hire me and y'all motherfuckers got a problem with it? You know? Like how would you? That has to be the way.
Starting point is 00:53:30 That must be, yeah. I think that's the only way to do it. But I don't understand Zion's high school experience. Because like you said, he was dunking on white prep school kids. Little foxes. Little tiny foxes. Yeah, yeah. Skinnier even. Tell me worse jump shots. No,es. Little tiny foxes. Yeah, yeah. Skinnier even.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Tommy, worse jump shots than you. Oh, I didn't know that. Dude, definitely. I probably guarantee that. Seriously, the league he played in, Zion Williamson
Starting point is 00:53:52 in high school was playing guys who were 5'10". And he was, I think he was born 6'7", 280 pounds. Hold on. So, LaAngela,
Starting point is 00:54:01 LaMelo, LaMelo, LaDonald, which one? LaMelo. The one going back to high school? The one going back to high school? The one going back to high school. He's going to high school in Ohio.
Starting point is 00:54:08 With a kid that's 7'1". Did you see that? He's got that giant thing. Yeah. That's unbeatable. That's unbeatable. Can't you just stand there with your hands? Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Just like this? People can just shoot for air balls. I watched those videos. I watched those videos of the overgrown, the oversized, the over tall guys. Young kids playing against the other little kids. Like I know it's probably very hard in a bad book for parents to complain about having to play against somebody. But it'd be hard if I'm a parent on the other team paying for these tournaments all around the country. And we have to match up with this eight foot tall kid.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Like it's in a game that revolves around height. I feel like that's an unfair advantage because those dudes just stand underneath the hoop. Just drop it in. They stand under the hoop though
Starting point is 00:54:52 and these little kids whose parents thought they were going to be the next J. Will or whatever come find it. You know, you swap that shit. It looks like an NBA player with their kids.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah, no. I mean, in that, in high school is unfair. You have to also think center, who works with the center the most, the point guard. So you're taking a guy who's played professional European basketball and looked the way he did, who didn't go to school anymore,
Starting point is 00:55:13 and then just decided to go back to high school, and he's just basically just closing his eyes, throwing it towards the net. He's a giant. He's going to get 45 assists in a game. And he can miss all the threes he wants because he's got someone to rebound. Right there. It's crazy. If our ball doesn't get it, this guy does it again.
Starting point is 00:55:32 He's good. I think he's smart. I think he knows what he's doing. I really do. He's been very quiet lately, too. And that's why I think he knows what he's doing because now he's getting quiet because his son's in the NBA now. He doesn't have to be the guy to be a voice because now Lonzo Ball can be a voice.
Starting point is 00:55:45 He's a grown-up. He has a child. I think LeBron talked to him. I do. You think LeBron talked to him? I do. I think there was a real sit-down conversation that happened. Probably LeBron and Magic.
Starting point is 00:55:54 I don't think it was disrespectful. I think they were like, I think they went to LeVar with a very respectful manner. Like, hey, listen, we respect what you've done. You've made your kids very. But if there's any way, we're paying Lonzo a lot of money right now. Is there any way that we could just maybe have you shut up? Just for a second? And who knows?
Starting point is 00:56:12 Maybe it works. I might be too naive to think that, but it feels like as soon as LeBron got there, before LeBron got there, LeVar Ball was chatty. He called it Lonzo's team, not LeBron's team. Very, very chatty. Very, very chatty. And then as soon as LeBron got there, there's been no, there had to be a conversation. He has that effect too, I feel like. LeBron has that overpowering, like
Starting point is 00:56:33 he's, when he walks in, they look up to him. They've been talking about Luke Walton kind of being shaky. Head coach, head coach Luke Walton. Coaches always get heat. Always. I watched the Miami Heat coach when LeBron was down there. It's ball struck. Yeah. There it was. I watched him in a timeout during a Pacers playoff game. I got seats right behind Miami Heat's bench.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Like, first row, right behind the bench. So, you guys have seen those spots. Oh, yeah. It was awesome. It was such a hilarious. It was me and AQ, I think. I think me and AQ were sitting there. Hyster obviously yeah probably on cloud 15 aq's just aq and they had a timeout it was in like maybe the second quarter i remember they had a timeout spolstra held a dry erase board and didn't write anything on it he just
Starting point is 00:57:21 held it in the huddle and didn't write anything on it. He started as a video editor. But he didn't, it was just like he was posing for the camera that's gonna shoot on him. In the playoffs. And there was no talking in the entire huddle. Like LeBron didn't talk, D-Wade didn't, nobody talked. It was just like a, it felt like a stage timeout. I was like this is absurd and Pacers had just gone on a run, so I think they were all pissed off. But I think the Heat won that. And it was like their coach literally did nothing. I don't know what he does every other time out. But in that particular one, he didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:57:55 And I was like slapping AQ. I'm like, AQ's a huge Jordan fan. He's huge. I'm like, bro, Jordan had Phil Jackson at least draw in triangles on a dry erase board. This motherfucker ain't doing nothing. I feel like coaching in basketball is the smallest coaching job. And not saying that. That's going to be it.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Yes, yes. Because college basketball is all coach, it feels like. College sports are all coach, I'd even say. And they love that. Yeah, yeah. And that's why coaches in college who yell at players work, because it's all on the coach. Yeah, it's like, I can make you, and I can literally knock you out. Well, you're not going to get fired from school.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Like, you're not going to get kicked out of the school. You're going to be there no matter what. True. The coach, he has to pick up his family and leave if they don't perform. So, yeah, he's going to bark and scream at you. Spolstra, the heat going around. Spolstra, he's going to stay between Spolstra imagine if you would have reported that like with your iPhone this would have flew this is before we're on the air
Starting point is 00:58:53 that would have crushed on the air I was I was very vitamin up though and I was just like I didn't even think anybody else really noticed cuz people are just walking by yeah cuz we're behind the walkway there people are just walking by the people behind us were like chit-chatting oh this is and i'm just like he's nobody else this guy is literally holding a dry erase board as if he's writing it was like he was an actor i think this is absurd to me it was jesus that happened with lebron too in some huddles and he'll if things aren't going well for him he'll get down on the bench and he'll just sit there and shut up. That's why I don't like the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Well, that's what it was, actually. It was one of those. It was a very mad huddle, but nobody talked. It's almost like Sposio might have knew, like, I'm not going to talk to anybody. There's going to be a lot of yelling right now. But I have to appear as if I'm doing something. So let me hold this marker to this board. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Yeah. And basketball is just, you put five guys out there, you tell them to score 100 points, and if they don't, you lose, and then okay. Last night's over-under was 154, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if Vegas is going to be able to catch up to Duke. Duke was plus one.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Yeah, they weren't favorites. I saw they were ranked fourth. I saw they were the four, number 14. Yeah. And I almost sent out a tweet last night that was like, they're number four and Kentucky's number two. Can't wait to see what the number three and number one team do to this Duke team. And Kansas. Kansas almost lost to Michigan State last night.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Who's number one team? Kansas. That's who Michigan State is. Oh. Yeah. Kansas is watching that game. Kansas goes into their college basketball season ranked number one, feeling like they're the shit, right?
Starting point is 01:00:23 Yeah. In practice, we're the best. Let's have a good time. We're number one. Now we've got to prove it. While they're on campus. Now we've got to prove it. And then last night they sat down and watched that Duke team
Starting point is 01:00:33 and we're like, yo. This isn't the year, boys. They beat number 10 seed in Michigan State by five. Sit down in the stands to watch Duke. Looks like our year we thought we were going to have is vastly different now. How about Zion not being the number one recruit? That R.J. Barrett kid was? He was good.
Starting point is 01:00:51 But that's the part he is. He's 6'7 from Canada, went to high school in Florida. Awesome. So they knew he was a stud for a long time. He's a lefty though. Both of them. Both of them are lefties. Zion was too.
Starting point is 01:01:06 They said that Jay Billis, I enjoy listening to Jay Billis by the way. It sounded like semi-pro commentary last night. Like from Jackie Moon. Like it sounded like
Starting point is 01:01:14 there was like, well it looks like he's not too happy about that. It was like, well we're watching a blowout right now. How about they have
Starting point is 01:01:21 Cam Reddish is the other guy. They have a hard knocks on Duke coming out there. Do they? Yeah, they said it was like 20 hours of footage
Starting point is 01:01:28 maybe, 10 hours of footage. For sure, you're going to watch that. On ESPN, yeah. But that R.J. Barrett, I had no idea who he was.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I don't really follow the high school basketball thing. Right. And I know Zion though. Oh yeah. Yeah. So whenever they were like, this was the number one
Starting point is 01:01:40 recruit here, this was the guy, this is like the guy, I'm like, if this is the guy, who is he? And then he did something like nasty. It was like one of the smoothest moves I've ever seen. He had one last night where he dribbled right, then went behind the back fake.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Like dribbled it behind his back, but then caught it basically halfway around, like right here. And then passed it back again behind the back. It was like a half double, half fake behind the back. And then took it to the rack? Took it to the rack. Yeah. Two points. So they were unbeatable.
Starting point is 01:02:08 They were great. Oh, for sure. Okay, so let's do it. Let's do it. Alabama can beat the Bills. Yes. Can this Duke team? Can they beat Cleveland?
Starting point is 01:02:18 The Cleveland Cavaliers. Cleveland who doesn't have a coach? So let's say Alabama and Duke travel to Cleveland. Oh, yeah. Same Cleveland. Oh yeah. Same city. Same city. They go to the same city.
Starting point is 01:02:29 The dog pound does not do shoots. They don't happen. They don't but also they do. Because Alabama when a team is the number one seed it
Starting point is 01:02:37 goes away to the number three seed's place and wins by 29 points. There's something to say about this might be the best college team I've ever seen. And when the say about this might being the best college team
Starting point is 01:02:45 I've ever seen. And when the number 14 plays against the number two team and wins by 15, there might be a conversation to be had. That's what I was telling him this morning. I was like, college basketball's over. It's like they need to, it's the most exciting night already happened. Coach K, Coach K was treating that game like it was a tournament game. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:05 They were up 30. They were pulling players out. The first game of the year. Not like, let's get the rust off. Let's get in a game shape. No, no, no. We're resting players so they can get a standing out. So they can get a clap.
Starting point is 01:03:17 They didn't need them to play in the end, though. No. It was a shit show. Yeah, who's that white kid, O'Connell? O'Connell. Yeah. He used to have long hair. They had their team photo, like their promo photo they put on Twitter and stuff,
Starting point is 01:03:29 and he had flow. It looked great. You could tell he just cut it because the top. He's loving his life. Oh, yeah. As soon as I saw him get in, he took the bow to the rack, got swatted, he missed the three. I was like, oh, this white guy's trying to get some playing time here.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Then they brought him back out, and he did get hot. He did. He's been on the team for a while, actually. I don't know if he's a senior, but if he is, then he was on the national championship team in 2015. They always have that one kid. Grayson, right, was hated by everybody. And now O'Connell will be.
Starting point is 01:03:58 I think Portnoy tweeted that. He said, Coach K recruits two types of guys. One, guys that can win the game. Yeah. And then the other is guys that will make sure people keep hating you. And O'Connell is that guy. It's like. Good for him.
Starting point is 01:04:14 But I don't know. O'Connell might be a cool guy. He might be more lovable. He's an Irish guy, too. Yeah. Grayson, I think, wanted to be a villain. Oh, yeah. Like he.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Yeah, he was a prick from the start. He played like that. He wanted to be. He tripped people. Like he was always Yeah, he was a prick from the start. He played well. Wanted to be. He tripped people. Like, he was always in the headlines for doing stupid shit like that. It's like incognito, right? For all of his flaws off the field. Whenever we talked to him, he wanted to be a guy that wasn't liked by other teams.
Starting point is 01:04:36 For sure. Like, that's the type of teammate he was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that's how Grayson was. Grayson was like, yeah, Julian Edelman, same type of guy. Yes. Julian Edelman, same type of guy. Does not want to be
Starting point is 01:04:45 liked by the other team I do not care if you like me or not I remember the first couple of times we played him I would talk to
Starting point is 01:04:51 every Puck returner in warm ups every single one I would talk to everyone it never ever failed because my opening line would be like
Starting point is 01:04:58 hey if we get in the open field don't run me over that's what I would say like if we get in the open field just don't run me over I don't care what you do just don't fucking run me if you juke me that's cool just don't run me over. That's what I would say. Like, if we get in the open field, just don't run me over. I don't care what you do,
Starting point is 01:05:05 just don't fucking run me over. If you juke me, that's cool. Just don't run me over. They would always laugh. Full conversation would happen. And it was a cool thing. And then whenever the game would happen, if they would either return one
Starting point is 01:05:17 or fair catch one, I would come down and I would finish the conversation. I'm like, I like that. When they would fair catch, I'm like, now we're working together here. Now we're working together. And there'd be a laugh. That's why I have a good rapport with
Starting point is 01:05:27 a lot of returners. Julian Edwin, though, before the game, it was his rookie year, I think. He was returning punts. And I was like, how about you just fucking coming out of nowhere, huh? And he just wouldn't even fucking look at me. Wouldn't even look at me. I'm this far away from him. And I'm
Starting point is 01:05:43 like, I was supposed to go to Kent State. Would have been cool to be your teammate, man. You're a dominant human being. Like trying to win them over. Wouldn't even fucking look at me. I was like, oh. And I just walked away. So I go up to Vinatieri. I go, that guy wouldn't even fucking look at me. Wouldn't even look at me. He was like, that's wild. I was like, wild, yeah. And then he became like the best returner in the league all of a sudden. Out of nowhere, he became the best returner. And I'm like, this fucking guy. And I run into him in L.A. during an offseason.
Starting point is 01:06:13 We're at like the same event. And on NFL Network the day before, I had ranked the punt returners that are most for me. And I put Julian Edmond at number one. Like, this guy, he's the guy right now. I understand everybody else might have more touchdowns than him, but he's young and he's a dick. I basically say, like, he's an ass and he is not scared of anything, basically. And he saw it, I guess.
Starting point is 01:06:36 So the next day I'm at an event and I come up to him and I'm like, okay, man, what's up? And he's like, what's going on? I thank you for what you said yesterday on NFL. I was like, okay, man, what's up? And he's like, what's going on? I thank you for what you said yesterday on NFL. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know that, like, you're the only guy
Starting point is 01:06:49 that wouldn't talk to me for a game? He was like, I was a little bit of an ass man. I was trying to prove myself. I'm like, oh, yeah, a little bit. And then the next time, whenever we played each other,
Starting point is 01:06:58 I walked up to him. Nice. And I'm like, what's up, man? He's like, ah, fuck you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're having fun though. Because I think he gets into, like, a zone. Like, I think he gets into, like, a... For sure.? He's like, ah, fuck you. Yeah, yeah. We're having fun though. Because I think he gets into like a zone. Like I think he gets into like a.
Starting point is 01:07:08 For sure. It's the Patriots versus everybody zone. Yeah, it's like he gets into that zone. Yeah. And for me, I don't ever. So I don't ever get into like that angry zone. It's like I'm much better at everything whenever I'm like more loose. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:19 So like I'm trying, I'm coming over to fuck with somebody. And they're like, get the fuck out of here. I'm like, ah, that's on me. I'm like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Runs out of the field. Yeah. My bad. My bad. Yeah. Hey, coming over to fuck with somebody. And they're like, get the fuck out of here. I'm like, ah, that's on me. I'm like, ah. Yeah. Yeah. Run to the field.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Hey, my phone. I thought we were friends, really. We were drinking together. That's on me. Yeah. That's it. I'll get the fuck out of here. But anyways, Zion.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Zion Williams, yeah. Yeah. God, I'm excited to hear what you have to say. Dude, I just had, by the way, the vitamins are making me think of this. I just had some of those caramel M&Ms. Don't like them. Not a fan. You like them? Better than a peanut?
Starting point is 01:07:53 Much worse. Much worse. They're worse, for sure. There's a real texture issue. Because the caramel's chewy, and you've cracked, you've smashed the candy shell, and it gets caught up in there. Like, when you put a piece of gum in your mouth right after you had a bunch of potato chips. And it collects it.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Yes, and it traps it in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I fucking hate that. I do too. Why is that? You found it with the peanut. Yeah. You found it with the peanut.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Perfection, right out of the gate. Now, Dick said he likes the pretzel one the other day. I guess we can do it, but it seems like they try to do everything with it. Yeah, they're going too far. He even told me those caramel ones are going on him, so I don't trust the pretzel one at all. Not as much as the peanut, though, but I like them. They're just a little
Starting point is 01:08:31 softer and just different taste. Alright, so here's what they did. The M&M was already good. Someone said, someone compared them to a Whopper, but it's a better Whopper. It's nothing like a Whopper. Like a Burger King Whopper? No. I was about to say, that thing is legit milked out Whopper. Whopper, but it's a better Whopper. It's nothing like a Whopper. Like a Burger King Whopper? I was about to say, that thing is legit.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Whopper might be the best burger out there. I've never had one of those. It's like a malted milk ball. Do you remember a while ago, someplace sent us just like thousands of those. They were sitting underneath the coffee thing. They come in like a jug, like a
Starting point is 01:09:04 carton almost. Yeah, it's like a milk carton. Yeah, yeah. I've never had them, but I do remember those things showing up here. The chocolate on them isn't real high quality. No, definitely not. The outer shell chocolate. And this caramel one, these caramel M&Ms here, not good, huh?
Starting point is 01:09:16 No, dude. How'd they end up here? Somebody sent them to the office. Yep. Yeah. By the way, we don't mind things being sent to the office. Not at all. We love things being sent to the office.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Uh-huh. You know something I hate, though, why that texture gets me? There's something about sand. Every time I'm around sand, I think it's... I was held down by my cousins one time. Like beach sand?
Starting point is 01:09:35 Yes. I don't mind walking in it, but I always in my mind, I'm like, I remember when my fucking cousin held me down and made me eat sand. You know what I mean? And I'll never get that. That's what that fucking reminded me of.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Sand's very overrated in general. Sand stinks. It sucks in golf. Like the beach is awesome. Yeah, it sucks in golf. I have a question. You can't fuck with it? How did we get to the sand?
Starting point is 01:09:57 How do we get to the sand? Yeah, good question. That's what that texture is of that caramel M&M. Once you get it in there, it's so gritty. It just reminded me of sand. And I have this thing about sand. When I was a cop, I would rather you come at me with a knife than a hand of sand. You come at me with a hand of sand, I'm going to think you're going to put it in my mouth.
Starting point is 01:10:16 I'm going to fucking kill you. Well, and also, you're going to deal with it forever. Because if that thing accidentally gets in your shirt or if it gets accidentally into your pants, Sandy Crotch is a real thing. There's no getting rid of sand. It just goes on forever forever so the caramel m&ms remind you of sand yes don't eat them the consistency in them are just so like snickers is awesome the caramel and snickers like they got that down the right way this it's just like a hard cold caramel center yes and it's that you know i don't know why they gotta fuck it up
Starting point is 01:10:45 the first m&m was great and then yeah and then they were like we'll put a peanut in it and then they got cocky yeah because they were like we didn't think you could make it any better than you did yeah so so oh george over in corner of creative down there you remember what i did with the peanut remember that how we didn't think it could get any better i got a new one caramel and they're like yeah yeah this guy would never get it wrong and then here we are eating sand that's unbelievable do you guys like the almond ones i don't know i tried it once it's okay but it just it's so to me still so inferior to the regular peanut m&m that i just i'm like why am i bothering with this i agree you know what i mean it It's like going to see a movie with...
Starting point is 01:11:27 I'm excited for this because I'm probably going to see it. Like a movie... I went to see Smallfoot the same weekend that some number one movie was out. It's like The Rock. It's like, y'all will go to the movie theater
Starting point is 01:11:39 and see a rock movie. But I love Stone Cold Steve Austin, but I'm not going to go to a movie theater for his movie. I'll wait for Netflix. You know austin but i'm not gonna go to a movie theater for his movie i'll wait for netflix you know what i mean it's like so if you go to a movie theater seeking out a stone cold austin movie think about what you're doing but just for future reference i would go if stone cold steve austin was to release a movie in 2018 or 2019 and it was in theaters nationwide i would go first, probably be at the matinee if I had to guess.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Stone Cold Steve Austin. Because what was he? He was on that island one. Yeah, the Condemned. I went to that first night in theaters. There we go. That's what I'm talking about, Todd.
Starting point is 01:12:14 That one, yes. That is very theater worthy and I forgot about it until you said that. That was a good fucking movie. I thought, I remember he was running through the fucking island.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Like, he's stone close got him out of prison he kind of has disappeared in a good way like he shows up every once in a while he's got that broken skull ranch yeah and then he he also hosts um hosts some other stuff a podcast but he's not over the top you know where the rock has become mainstream everything he's everywhere people think about him being president. I'm assuming Michelle Obama, but people are assuming The Rock can run for president. It's very interesting watching,
Starting point is 01:12:51 because those two were at the same time in WWE watching where they've gone. And who's happier, you think? I think Stone Cold might be happier. He seems happy, man. Do you like that show he has? That show where they- Broken Skull Ranch.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Yeah. Or Broken Skull Challenge or something. Oh, like the actual game show? Yeah. I knew a girl that was on there. They fight. Oh, that stuff. Those challenges were unbelievably hard.
Starting point is 01:13:12 I knew a girl that was on there. Really? I guess we should have. It was AQ's ex-wife. She was a contestant on that? We can leave that. We can leave that. This all can stay.
Starting point is 01:13:22 All right. AQ's newly married has a baby. That shouldn't be a problem. Yeah, AQ's ex-wife was on it. She was MMA. I was going to say, she has to be a badass. Yep. And she almost drowned a girl, I guess.
Starting point is 01:13:34 They had something in water where it was like a thing. And they said it was too violent. They can't put it on TV, so they had to do it again. They had to reshoot it. But I would. That's what she said. She could be lying, too. But it was right before their wedding. She went andhoot it. But I would. That's what she said. She could be lying too, but she was right before their wedding.
Starting point is 01:13:47 She went and did it. And then at the wedding, I asked, I was like, how did that, what was Stone Cold Steve Austin like? Was he the coolest guy ever? And she was like,
Starting point is 01:13:54 yeah, he was really nice. I was like, what was the game? She was like, well, it was Hollywood. They had a Hollywood, a little part of Hollywood. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:14:00 oh, I can't wait to hear this. And she was like, I almost killed a girl, I guess. She held her underwater. And then she said she had to redo and she lost so she redid and she lost yeah so she got out so i think she had kind of a bitter yeah i think she had a bitter feeling towards it but i assume that something almost terrible what happened and cmt was like we can't fuck it this girl almost dies we're gonna grow inhaling water here in the bottom of a pit while steve austin
Starting point is 01:14:24 laughs we can't put this out. But I've watched that before. I like the hell out of it. I guess he lives out in the middle of nowhere in Texas. I see his Instagram is always just him driving ATVs and hunting with his dogs. Out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Just desert. So like Brock is out in the middle of Canada and Steve Austin's out in the middle of Texas. Both happy as fuck. Guaranteed. Brock Lesnar. You mentioned him the other day with the Cormier situation and how he was in USADA testing and he looks smaller and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:14:57 He lives out in the middle of nowhere like an actual caveman. He might be the closest thing to like what cavemen were, right? Exactly. He is the closest thing to like what cavemen were right exactly he is the closest thing to yeah like his bones structure is his his everything is the most comparable to a fucking caveman i would say i'd say right like an almost i don't want to say pre-evolved human but like a a more um like ape ape like yeah like back when bears used to look at us and go i don't know if i want to fuck with that you know what i mean we were different then those things look like they could fight back looks like that thing could run on its hands if it had to like that's what it
Starting point is 01:15:33 looks like it looks like you could go and he could walk on all fours i think like an animal if he had to right now and it would look natural yeah like his arms are no less strong than his legs. You know, it's fucking weird. And he is smaller now. Yeah. But it seems if he does love his life, like he gives no fucks about anybody. Anybody, anything. I think he is in such a good fucking spot. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:58 Like this, I was reading, we talked about last episode that, you know, he's going to fight Cormier in January. And now I guess this deal with the WWE takes him into at least April. WrestleMania. Yeah, for just those events. Yeah, it takes him to the next WrestleMania. Okay, and that's in April. Yeah, because he's the current champion right now.
Starting point is 01:16:21 So the champ has to have a build for WrestleMania. So that would have to happen. So minimum April. But he said it's a multi-event deal. So it could carry him into summer. So now a lot of MMA people are like, there's no way if he has to carry that schedule that now he's going to continue and go to the UFC.
Starting point is 01:16:40 No, the schedule for WWE, he just flies in on Mondays. He only does Monday Night Raw. And it's not every Monday Night Raw. He does like on Mondays. He only does Monday Night Raw. And it's not every Monday Night Raw. He does like once every four weeks. He does Monday Night Raw. The big gimmick right now about Brock Lesnar in the WWE is that he doesn't show up. That's like his actual...
Starting point is 01:16:54 He just has his own gig and just... He doesn't care about the WWE. He doesn't care about the actual storyline right now with Brock Lesnar, and it has been for a while now, has been that Brock Lesnar is a part-timer. He doesn't about the WWE he's just there to collect checks that's all it is that is his story so I think he could train UFC I hope these people are wrong then because they're hitting it hard and they're even saying it's going to cause if that happens it causes Jones versus Cormier three so if we were thinking that brock and vince McMahon had teamed up with
Starting point is 01:17:26 ufc and dana white to promote this next ufc fight with brock and cormier this would still follow this would fall into that this this extension through wrestlemania would still follow suit with that right right because he would still be with the wwe and he'd be doing you i think and i'm nowhere near an expert which i'm sure you've read up on with experts i think he could definitely and that's just as a person who watches wwe and brock only shows up once a month he only shows up once a month and i i'd assume he's training now for ufc with how small he looks he's definitely uh in his side like you said but so something's changed so i'm thinking in my head this is without doing any research
Starting point is 01:18:07 and just finding out about this right now. In my head, I'm thinking that he is training for UFC right now and that WWE is going to promote it. And when Roman had to go back and battle leukemia, who was the champion, they're like, well, this is just an easy way to do this here. And I think that's what's happening. Exactly. What better way to build that storyline? it's just like wait look at this guy
Starting point is 01:18:27 he's going out to fucking fight in the ufc he doesn't care about the wwe you know exactly and he's the wwe champion so ufc can promote that the wwe chair and if he wins vince mcmahon is going to have a field day promoting that the wwe champion just went into ufc and beat their double champion that would be a huge promotion yeah it's just whether or not brock can handle it i guess that's what everybody said yeah and the good thing is it doesn't matter if those people are right or if what you're saying happens like because brock lester's in the mix everybody still fucking wins they make more money if he fights john jones if brock fights john Jones, they make way more money than if he fights Cormier. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Absolutely. Those are two big names. But I think they have respect for each other, I think. I think they're both kind of heels. It's an interesting. If we're going to think like WWE, Cormier is the right guy to have Brock fight because he's the double champion. He's like a nice guy.
Starting point is 01:19:22 The mainstream's pushing him hard. They hit him on Thursday Night Football. They got him doing commentating and stuff. He's being pushed hard by people. And Brock's like the perfect, I don't want to say bad guy, but the perfect outlier, basically. But Jon Jones, Brock Lesnar, huge draw. Huge draw.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And that'll happen no matter what still, I think. But I hope this Cormier and Brock fight happens. Because to me, that would be the best heavyweight matchup I've probably seen in 15 years. And who's favorite in that? I don't know. I think Cormier probably would be. Now, let's say Jon Jones, Brock. Who would be favorite?
Starting point is 01:19:59 Oh, Jon Jones. Would be a massive favorite. Way more so than Cormier. Over Brock Lesnar? Yeah. See, in my head,ier. Over Brock Lesnar? Yeah. See, in my head, I have WWE Brock Lesnar. He picks up 400-pound dudes. It's nothing.
Starting point is 01:20:12 If he gets a hold of him, it's going to be... That's what you say. He has that superhero strength. But I think Jones has a much better chance of avoiding that than Cormier. Do you think Brock Lesnar possibly because let's say the WWE is also promoting this
Starting point is 01:20:28 so any promotion is a good promotion. He does the I'm going to drink Miller Lite I'm going to drink Miller Lite because Bud Light
Starting point is 01:20:35 isn't paying me enough for a gig. Do you think he goes into full promo mode afterwards? I agree. Because his last performance at UFC showed up
Starting point is 01:20:42 pushed Cormier the whole thing. It was a promo without Paul Heyman. Brock Les was a promo without Paul Heyman. Brock Lesnar was talking without Paul Heyman. Do you think they'll continue to promote it or Dana White will want them to? I wonder what's going to happen there. I guarantee you, dude.
Starting point is 01:20:53 They must just sit around and just come up with ways to get Brock back constantly. Drama interest? Because he's the highest draw. Outside of McGregor, and probably that's only because he hasn't been here since 2010. If he would have continued on his numbers for pay-per-view
Starting point is 01:21:10 and UFC would way outnumber a comic. And that's 100% because of the WWE. Yes. 1,000 not even
Starting point is 01:21:16 that's 1,000% because of WWE. And the WWE is a bunch of like circus acts. Right? Like you have the bearded lady you have the monster you have the this you have the barbared lady, you have the monster,
Starting point is 01:21:25 you have the this, you have the barbarian. That's who Brock is. He's the barbarian fighting against me. We got good versus evil, myth versus legend. You have all these things happening in WWE and Brock Lesnar in himself isn't a character.
Starting point is 01:21:39 He is, he's a character. He's barbarian. He is the barbarian of the group. He's the alpha of the wwe and it takes very little acting he's a he just is that just be he doesn't have to talk paul it's like andre the giant back in the day just pretend you're a giant okay i am a giant yeah exactly just show up yeah just show up and just do whatever you gotta do look angry get pissed off
Starting point is 01:22:01 andre the giant changed the game because he was that side show. Come see this world's tallest man who's an athlete, right? Come see this superhuman Italian blonde Hulk Hogan who is super strong, drink all your vitamins. It's just like, I don't want, they're draws in themselves. Come see this guy who has more energy than anybody else, Ultimate Warrior. Come see, it's just more energy than anybody else, Ultimate Warrior. Come see. It's just like you – it's all draws.
Starting point is 01:22:28 And Brock Lesnar being the barbarian has worked very well in the WWE for a long time. And you team him up with the best talker probably in the WWE. Maybe – The Rock was really good. But Paul Heyman is one of the best talkers to ever step onto a microphone. So it's a perfect team there. But whenever you have years and years of dominance, it's like the WWE people have grew a respect for Brock Lesnar. Anytime Brock Lesnar's music hits,
Starting point is 01:22:54 even if they're supposed to hate him, as soon as that fucking sound hits, the whole place just stands up. It's like, this is the guy, you know? So it makes sense that when he goes into UFC, everybody at WWE, all the fans are like, oh, I want to go see his ass in a real cage over there. It's so much he and the WWE have to teach those guys
Starting point is 01:23:11 because certain people are just born attractions, right? With their personality. It's all these people. And then you couple that with the fact that these guys are like you. You know what I mean? Not every NFL, hardly any, none NFL players can do what you do. Agreed.
Starting point is 01:23:31 It's like that with these athletes on the other side of the house. It's like, here you got this guy. Like Brock Lesnar being a freak in and of himself wouldn't be what he is now. Him having the attitude, knowing that he is the guy he is. Knowing how to pump people up and get them to follow what he's doing, you know, maniacally. Tell the story, yeah. It's like Khabib, great fighter, nowhere near the promoter that McGregor was.
Starting point is 01:23:57 No way. The promotion is a talent in of itself, though, in the business of anything. The promotion is a talent in of itself, in the business of um anything the promotion is a talent in of itself if you can do it or not but how anybody attaches himself emotionally to khabib you know like to root for him just because there's no way he's fucking off he has no personality him hopping in the crowd not bad promotion yeah so maybe i'm wrong maybe he maybe that is his promotion right maybe like the night before the fight they were like, you're doing no promotion for this thing. Nobody even knows you exist. Everybody thinks this is just a McGregor fight. And he goes,
Starting point is 01:24:31 I win, I jump in crime. And that will blow up internet. And then it did. And then it did. And it was like, oh, maybe you're right. But nobody knows Khabib. He's gone, right?
Starting point is 01:24:46 Khabib, they announced a fight. If they were to put Khabib on an undercard, nobody would be like, oh, no, don't do that. Well, that's why it took him so long to get a title shot. He's like 26-0, but he was always fighting the first fight on the card or stuff like that just because, A, he's boring, and B, he has no personality. Boy, what a... He drained Connor. Oh, yeah. It was like a python
Starting point is 01:25:09 or whatever those things are. A boa constrictor. It was like one of those. It was just suffering. It was suffocating Connor McGregor. It was painful to watch. It was. It was just like,
Starting point is 01:25:19 ah, dude, you got no shot. He looks so miserable right now. Ah, dude, you just got dragged into the goddamn river again by the Amazon. But if he were to get kidnapped tomorrow, disappeared off face of the earth forever, no one that follows the UFC would be like,
Starting point is 01:25:33 you know, we haven't seen Khabib in a few years. You would just forget about him. You'd just forget about him. Yeah. Brock Lesnar has maintained the, we would like to see him back in the UFC. Who did he lose to? Or who did he beat to hell?
Starting point is 01:25:43 He beat Mark Hunt when he came back after a four-year layoff. And Mark Hunt then, in 2010, no chump. Nobody to beat. And a huge knockout power, good wrestling. So I think that's a good sign. Brock Lesnar, man. He's just a beast. Think about him up in a barn in Canada in the middle of nowhere,
Starting point is 01:26:02 just rolling around on the floor with like three other barbarians oh just a bunch of vanilla gorillas in there just beating the hell out of each other i mean when you're at the height the level he was at what he was already doing what drives you to go to an organization that was going to pay him like a 20th of what his yearly salary was no to go he's just he's an animal. I, I honestly believe that the WWE and UFC are together on this promotion. And I think him signing through WrestleMania is only even more part of it. I agree. Vince McMahon is finding a way to profit off of the hype that he created.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Yeah. Absolutely. Which is what Brock Lesnar. I assume the last time Brock went to UFC, I, there was probably a pissed off Vince McMahon. I assume it's not pissed off, but I assume there's some Brock went to UFC, there was probably a pissed off Vince McMahon, I assume. Not pissed off, but I assume there's some people in WWE that are like,
Starting point is 01:26:52 yo, they are literally just doing this because of what he is in WWE. And then Vince being a businessman probably was like, next time we'll just get into it. Yeah. And that's probably what happened here. I think so. If I had to guess. I think so. Because this is with zero inside information.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Nobody would tell me. When I was in the NFL, I was a punter. Nobody told me anything. Now I work for WWE. I am on the NXT pre-show. That is literally the bottom of the totem pole. Nobody would tell me anything. But in my head, Vince is going to help out the UFC a lot here.
Starting point is 01:27:17 I think so. And already worth his investment, I think, just for Ronda Rousey. You know what I mean? Yep. For getting that relationship with the timing he did. He didn't get her after she was forgotten and she didn't have heat anymore,
Starting point is 01:27:28 you know, like what's happened traditionally back, you know. Do you think Vince shows up to the fight? Yes. No. Yes.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Oh, I don't know. Him in the front row would be awesome. He'd be electric. He'd be so cool. Him, Triple H, Stephanie, the whole squad just lined up in the...
Starting point is 01:27:44 They buy... just like with 50 Cent did with John Rose they buy all the front they got like every wrestler just sitting in the front row yeah our champs fighting your champ let's see what happens it'd be good for the WWE though
Starting point is 01:28:03 if Brock Lesnar's the WWE champ and the heavyweight UFC champ. He's literally the most dominant human on earth. Yeah. And it's great. It's just great for everybody. You know? The fact that he walked this earth. That's what he was put on this earth to do.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Was to fucking make, save the UFC. Every now and then, somebody's got to be born to save the UFC. Give it a little bump. We were almost gone. Dana White. Boom white boom now kind of falling off again brock lesnar's back there we go guess who's back back again how much you think they're paying him he's probably getting a percentage i see yeah on the pay-per-view probably probably just getting a percentage of it yeah i bet he still makes like three million bucks just for showing up so it's probably a five million dollar salary i assume and then a percentage on the pay-per-views and probably house tickets too I bet he still makes like $3 million just for showing up. So it's probably a $5 million salary, I assume. And then a percentage on the pay-per-views and probably house tickets too, you think?
Starting point is 01:28:50 He gets a percentage of that? Probably. I wonder. I guarantee it's the sweetest deal anybody's ever gotten. Also, I'd like beer too. I like a percentage of beer sales. Forever. Forever I want beer at my house too.
Starting point is 01:29:03 You know, he has, he's been, he has pumped Jimmy Johns for a long time. Oh, yeah. And we were talking about this the other day. I've never seen him in Jimmy Johns commercial. I've never seen Jimmy Johns promote Brock Lesnar. I've only seen Brock Lesnar promote Jimmy Johns. Jimmy Johns needs to get their fucking shit together
Starting point is 01:29:20 before that barbarian. Right. They never promote him. He always has Jimmy Johnsmy johns on his shorts he always and on any of his stuff if he did all their commercials so much better oh my god forget about it other hoagie places you're done well maybe maybe if jimmy johns could uh maybe buy up quiznos toasters oh and get that formula yeah jimmy johns buy quiznos toasters. Get that formula? Yeah. Jimmy Jones, buy Quiznos toasters so we can really just do this thing.
Starting point is 01:29:48 We were talking about Quiznos and their social media account from the last standing store in Indiana replied to it. Really? Yeah, it's in Plainfield, Indiana. We got to go. I thought you were gone.
Starting point is 01:30:03 You got one store. I'm on my keto diet pretty heavy right now because I'm in Los Angeles next week. No big deal. No big deal. How are you looking forward to this or what? I got a good costume. I know that. Oh, yeah. I got a good costume.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Very good. I feel very good about what I'm wearing. Nice. I'm halfway there. I mean, if I feel like I'm going to look solid. We've been searching for a barber, though. I need a barber because I'm literally in this office. We've been searching for a barber, though. I need a barber, because I'm literally in this office
Starting point is 01:30:27 for like 12, 13 hours a day, and there's no time to go do anything. And then I, we, so I'm trying to pay a barber to come to the office. Bi-weekly. Bi-weekly. Yeah, two times a month, bi-weekly. By the way, it's weird that that's bi-weekly.
Starting point is 01:30:40 It is. Because that should be bi-monthly. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think bi-weekly, I'm like like you're gonna hit me two times a week yeah right but i think he's actually but bi-weekly is the way to say it sure because that's like you're right though it doesn't make sense to me right now as soon as you said it yeah it doesn't right yeah so two times a month yeah we're looking for
Starting point is 01:30:58 somebody to come in and cut the hair and willing to pay willing to pay. Willing to pay for sure. Absolutely. But some of these barbers are wild. What the fuck? I've gotten a lot of DMs from a lot of barbers. One guy told Foxy that if he wants to, I know every barber in the city, if you want a good cut, you're going to have to pay. What, like a hundred bucks? Foxy's like, what the fuck are you talking about? A hundred a head. A hundred a head.
Starting point is 01:31:22 A hundred a head. A hundred a head. For a haircut. Are you Bob Ross, bro? What are you going to do up there? Just give me a fade and get the fuck on with it. That's like the construction guy's quote that changes as soon as he pulls into the driveway of a fucking mansion.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Oh, my God. I don't worry him twice as much. The expensive ones always take forever. It's like, okay, this guy just spent $100, so now I need to take a full hour and ruin his day. We sound like... This is such a first world problem. It really is. We work too goddamn hard to go get haircuts.
Starting point is 01:31:50 So we're trying to pay somebody to come in and cut our hair. And instead, what do we have to do? We have to deal with somebody telling us they're going to pay $100 for my fucking haircut? That's asinine. A hundred? And then that's not including a tip. No. They're expecting a tip. $120, $ 125 bucks i'll slip my own throat before i pay a hundred dollars for a haircut
Starting point is 01:32:10 what did the one guy the one guy was charging 45 and you walk in he said 45 bucks you turn around and walk yeah i'm not gonna do it and these are guys that post every single haircut they do on their social media and it's like we we are an internet company we have a presence there we can maybe we negotiate maybe uh yeah maybe we can negotiate here no hundred ahead if you want the best cut in the city it's like what i don't want maybe i don't want the best i just want a cut i respect the art right i respect the art it's hard it's hard if everybody could do it we would have somebody in the office that could do it. Absolutely. So we respect the art. That's a lot of money. But $100 a head.
Starting point is 01:32:47 About $100? The guy with the straight face. He didn't have any, like, laughy face emojis. No, no, no. No, it was a straight face he said that. With a period. With one period he said that. That's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Who else are you charging $100 to? Nobody. No way. You should just give him the stipulation back. All right. But then if I don't like it, I get to ruin your career. I get to literally end your career as a barber. See, I hate that.
Starting point is 01:33:10 That's something I do. Oh, I'm suddenly such a douchebag. That's something I miss about being smaller on the internet. I very much miss being able to tell people how I feel about them. Now it's accused of weaponizing your followers and bullying and blah blah and you're a small business owner just not a good look yeah but when i had like 10 000 followers and i got some shitty service man i very much love doing a yelp review right there in 140 characters i did i enjoyed it was a lot of fun it was a lot of fun because
Starting point is 01:33:39 they didn't know who i was i was basic white guy coming into thing and if i got dreams like shit just like oh this place is not great you know that's all it would take and then all of a sudden my smart ass followers 10 000 would be like they would at the company and then tell them like yo motherfuckers fucked up and then i'm getting like emails to the colts facility i'm getting like letters to the colts facility from restaurants i'm like god damn it i can't do it anymore those days were over used to be able to do that now i can't do it now that place would get fucking just people would pick it they would set up camp around it uh i appreciate my followers they're really good people but i've i've had to get smarter about what i put up there because it's very much an us versus the world feeling it is it is very much us versus the
Starting point is 01:34:24 world which i appreciate very much so if i say anything religious negative about something man they get them i got into it with the indie star the indie star called me a sexist because i questioned um connor daly's manhood whenever he decided to become a vegan they said that i was uh assigning a gender to a diet which is sexist the indie Indy Star said that. I remember it. So I quote tweeted it and just said, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. That's all I said because it literally made me laugh. It literally made me laugh. I was laughing so hard.
Starting point is 01:34:53 My followers said some things to the person that wrote that that were very negative. Very, very negative. Somebody told her to go play in traffic. It was like... yeah so so then i get i get accosted for weaponizing my followers from saying ha ha ha to a quote tweet right and it's like it was at that moment where i was like i did not expect somebody to be that over the top to this but maybe when you're writing about probably like the
Starting point is 01:35:26 the fourth or fifth highest philanthropist of the city like maybe it's something to think about as opposed you know what i mean no that's so true because you want it like even me sitting here right now i'm like how the fucking people deserve it i know what would happen if you if you like had to fire back at somebody like they might as well just fucking unplug themselves for the rest of their life it is a kid had to delete his account i had a kid had to delete his account because at the pro bowl at the pro bowl i said if because this is when deflategate was happening uh-huh something happened deflategate i was at the pro bowl drunk on strawberry marks nice and i put a tweet out that was like, if New England gets disqualified, I think we are technically in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:36:10 I should probably lay off these strawberry marks. Right. I sent that out. So then some kid from New England sent me a tweet that was like, what did I tell you something, you fucking punter? Like, he basically said he was going to fight me, right? So I did a little research on him, and I on him i'm like all right here we go i mean this doesn't always happen i get a chance this is like a heckler i get a chance so another
Starting point is 01:36:32 one he plays he played college football at some d3 school and he was he was mocking that i was a punter so i just simply responded to him that if i was to attend his school the program would read pat mcafee p slash qb slash ol slash tn slash s slash rb slash your coach probably so like it was like very very relaxed it wasn't even not even bad i didn't even go hard at it i was just basically it was funny it was like very very relaxed it wasn't even not even bad i didn't even go hard at it right i was just basically it was funny it was done well done and i think i called him a like he he had his highlight reel and he ran like a 4940 or something like that so i ended it with like so take your 4940 sloth ass and get the fuck out of my mentions or something like that that kid got accosted so hard he deleted his twitter i felt so bad i felt so bad i was like
Starting point is 01:37:28 that wasn't even that good of one but boy people were really feeling it because the flight gate was a big thing so it got it the kid deleted his twitter i was like oh man slippery slope but sometimes i feel like they deserve like that's what he gets they would deserve that that like some people sometimes you only get one shot you, second chances aren't a real thing all the time. Like, doctors sometimes don't get second chances. You know what I mean? Like, you've got to nail it. Why?
Starting point is 01:37:51 You choose to fuck it up. Well, you see, social media isn't really social media anymore. It's just a one-way street with most things. Because somebody could say something to me. It doesn't happen that often anymore, actually. It's pretty cool. I thought it would get a lot worse as I got bigger, but it seems as if it's kind of smaller.
Starting point is 01:38:08 But no, like people chirping or whatever, it used to be so much fun to joust with those people. So much fun. Because as a punter, you don't get to talk shit much. Right. But on Twitter, the basic motherfucker, I mean, I got nothing but time here. I can scroll through your photos
Starting point is 01:38:22 to see you were a fifth wheel two years ago i got nothing but time i'm sitting in a hotel there's a game tomorrow but i got no film to watch and i'm just laid up i can scroll all the way through all of your tweets and learn about your ex-girlfriend and i can post a picture of her in my response to you i used to be a savage on there savage see but that's what I don't get is when someone tweets at you, I mean, maybe the predominant thought now is just like, well, he's never going to see it. But
Starting point is 01:38:51 part of it is like, I want him to see this. I want him to respond to what I'm saying. So if you can't take the heat from your original you know, it's like... There's no way they expect like there's no way they expect no definitely no way they expect
Starting point is 01:39:08 20,000 people just to be like oh we're going yep definitely not this fucking guy he runs a 4.9 look at this fucking bum there was people pulling up pictures from his high school like him in high school it was tough it was tough I was watching it I didn't delete it but it was right there it was very
Starting point is 01:39:24 fun but that's also the difference between tweeting at someone like you and tweeting, you know, like just some guy who has a take on something who has 140 followers. It's like, well, you know, I mean, that kind of shit's going to happen if you're doing that. I kind of enjoy it because it does tear down that anonymity that they all try to hide behind. You know, you're not anonymous anymore when you can't get on your account anymore without people fucking terrorizing you. I love it. I used to
Starting point is 01:39:52 love it. Now let's just say we're having a good time here. Everybody's happy. Everybody's good. We're having a good time here. Now you'll like air it out. You'll like tell us it. I got to go after this person and then you'll say what you want to say. Then you'll be like alright, no, I'm not going to do it. Yeah, I'll get it all out. I'll get it all out. You'll do some curls say then you'd like all right now I'm not gonna do it yeah it's it's tough sometimes there's there's some people on Twitter that have too much false confidence sure
Starting point is 01:40:19 they should not be tweeting the things that they are tweeting. And somebody has to tell them at some point. And I always want to be that guy. But I can't anymore. Can't anymore. Because there's too many followers now. I can't weaponize my followers to attack douchery and evil off of Twitter. I can't do it. Because it's against the rules.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Which, the rules. Which moral rules. You need like a burner account that has like 8,000, 10,000 people on it or something. I used to have another account called Sensei They. Oh, that's a good name. Yeah. Wait, what was it called? Fuck. Sensei They maybe?
Starting point is 01:41:03 And it was like they say and it would be they say things i was very high when i was doing it and i it became like it became everybody knew because as soon as i would tweet from there i'd retweet it from batman and it had one follower when it started was me you know it was just was bad. Everybody knew it was there. And I deleted it because I was like, man, I don't want to send a tweet out from this one. It's supposed to be this. But there's people that have full-on burners. Kevin Durant getting caught with burners was absurd to me.
Starting point is 01:41:38 I'm like, I didn't even think about people doing that. And then you hear about the 76ers GM doing it to Joe. He had a he had a burner to talk shit on his players yep the internet's a wild place it's so wild wild yeah and i love that he wasn't any better at using a burner account than you were like he was pretty obvious like they were like come on dude kevin duran or the gm the gm when they went back and looked at it oh the burner count is a crazy. Like, who runs Zito Thoughts?
Starting point is 01:42:08 That's a good question. I want to know. Somebody in his office. I don't think it is. You don't think it's somebody in this office? No, I don't think it is. I assumed it was. That's why the other day I was like, yeah, whoever that is, better step up their foot.
Starting point is 01:42:21 I thought because I thought it was one of you guys. Because I think if it was someone from this office, then some of the stuff that he would say when we're not on air would slip through the cracks and get in there. Like, oh, that's too good. I got to throw that up. Maybe it's Zito's friend, though. Maybe it's a friend of Zito. He said he had a long weekend, or she said she had a long weekend. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 01:42:37 I heard one of the tweets was from his quote from the Twitch stream. So it's got to be someone that watches the Twitch consistently as well. Okay, so there's like 25 people. We're narrowing it down. So this is like, guess who? Like, does he have a mustache? That's what just happened right there. That just happened.
Starting point is 01:42:56 That's hilarious. Frank Morado has joined me. What's going on, Frank? Happy to be here. What's been going on in your blog world? Pretty good blogging? Do you feel like you're really in your groove there blogging? No, I'm getting better at it though. Did you expect to be a good blogger or do you think you would suck at blogging? I thought I would be better at blogging than on a microphone. So you're
Starting point is 01:43:22 pretty confident blogging? I think so. Like when we were in school and we had to write papers or type papers, were you good or bad at that? I think I would consider myself a good essay writer. So that's what a blog is, right? Yeah, pretty much.
Starting point is 01:43:33 That's pretty much what it is? Mm-hmm. So you felt good coming in? Yeah. Yeah. And you've really hit a sweet spot there? Have you got any mental blocks or anything like that?
Starting point is 01:43:44 Not really. I just try and think of shit I want to express. Do I hate this? Do I love it? Is this interesting? Is it boring? Is it terrible? Is it good?
Starting point is 01:43:55 A lot of self-reflection in there, huh? A couple little clickbaity type titles, you know? Get people in there, trap them. I put a clickbait title up the other day. You have to. Triple H's breasts. I think I'm an elite captioner. I think I'm an elite headline giver.
Starting point is 01:44:10 I made a tragic flaw in a blog game. What's that? Fake news. That happens. Which one was it? Baltimore potentially legalizing murder. If it wasn't Baltimore, I think I don't fall for it. That's very believable.
Starting point is 01:44:25 You know what I mean? When I was at Baltimore one time for a game, it was around Christmas. The mayor was getting indicted on stealing gift cards that were donated for families. So I'm just in my head. I think Baltimore, I'm like, there's a chance that Baltimore would be the first city to be like, yep, to the perch. I mean, you got the wire. You got all the old tired Ray Lewis jokes. It's all there.
Starting point is 01:44:48 All there. So I want to end blocked. Got good action, too. It was hot there for a little bit. Got like 40 retweets with the quickness. And I got a text from, I said to Ty, I said, Ty, did you read this? He said, there's no way this is real.
Starting point is 01:44:59 I was like, no, there's no way. There's no way. I did a little bit more research. Turns out the city of Baltimore is not actually the city of Baltimore's Facebook account. Baltimore should get on that. There's an account with 26,000 followers tweeting out, they're the onion for the city of Baltimore. You would have never expected, but I got had by them.
Starting point is 01:45:20 It's like an Adam Shefmer. Yeah. Let's get me. Mort Anderson, too. it's like an Adam Adam Shefmer yeah Adam yeah he gets Mort Anderson too Mort was struggling there for a while like a good old
Starting point is 01:45:31 Barry McCockner yep Barry McCockner I don't know who that is but yeah he's a big time troll he changes his Twitter avi
Starting point is 01:45:37 and profile and he's very good at it I just followed him actually Ivers, is it awesome? yeah he hits everybody he does NFL insiders he does Woji.
Starting point is 01:45:45 He hits them all. It's awesome, huh? Yeah. That's a good little gimmick to have on here. Oh, yeah. So what's your gimmick on the blog? Hockey? I saw too much hockey.
Starting point is 01:45:52 A lot of hockey. We're trying to move the needle in this blog. Ty, you're the editor of this thing. You're just letting this guy just blog about things that nobody cares about. I mean, if you're going to give me full control to take blogs down, then that's another discussion. What if there's a full-on process to get the blog up? It has to go through Ty, then it has to go through me, then it has to go through Tim McAfee.
Starting point is 01:46:14 I still feel good about my chances. I mean, have you seen half the shit Conor's blogged? I haven't, actually. I have not read a single thing that Conor has blogged until the other day he told me he's an NBA blogger. I have a guy from Boston who's a white guy from Boston who never played basketball is an NBA blogger.
Starting point is 01:46:32 I'm pretty sure those pics he said on your show, I think he was 0-3. He was. Well, he said he's batting 50-50 right now because he picked up three other bets that nobody knew about. Of course. Of course. No, but I haven't read a lot of his. read a couple years ago you got good stuff in there thanks man real thinkers in fairness there was a lot going on in the hockey
Starting point is 01:46:49 world the past couple days hockey's starting to stir up some drama that uber driver you never see stuff like that no that uber driver thing was crazy what did you think of that i i just don't it's you can't trust it you literally can't you said it in the blog and i am a very paranoid person i think that is something uh probably not a lot of people know i think that would be uh some i'm a very paranoid person you don't see me really do much i would just say you're on guard at all times yes yeah i've worked very hard to get because you've seen a lot of shit well i've worked very hard to get here and i've seen a lot of people just get absolutely ruined for very dumb things people taking advantage of yes and i'm like let's just stay away from that that's why i don't do the financial advisor thing i don't do that
Starting point is 01:47:33 i don't talk to a lot of people i don't know i mean i'll talk to people small talk let's have a conversation let's go but there ain't no real conversations happen with people i don't know anymore because you can't do it you just can't do it and this is kind of what happened with those hockey guys that uber guy was definitely stirring the pot, too. He was trying to get them to open up like that. Big-time scumbag move. Their first mistake was legitimately telling them who they were. Yeah, we play for the Ottawa Senators.
Starting point is 01:47:53 Yeah, that makes me question them, too, by the way. So that makes me question them, too. That's like the do you know who I am when you get arrested. So I want to ask you this. That's an interesting thing. Because you're very big on PR perception and analyzing things like that. The way they handled it in the aftermath they had a couple players go up and address the press afterwards but when it was none of the players that were involved in the incident they put out a joint statement on the player's behalf that's even worse team that's even worse
Starting point is 01:48:18 it's all getting worse it's all getting worse then they played the game and they dummied some team they won the seven to three Had a big night. Good coaching. And then finally a couple of guys answered questions afterwards in the locker room. Yeah, I think the guys just have to go up there and talk. Yeah, we were drunk and we were talking shit on our coach. This is a very standard situation. This is peewee football. This is peewee hockey, high school hockey.
Starting point is 01:48:41 At some point, the coach is going to get shit-talked by his players. And as long as the players respond to him who cares i think that's a that would i think it in the in the face of any adversity you'd go yeah when faced with any adversity you go head first right at it you go i think you have to own it and keep it moving and i'm only saying that because i think it shows like a human side to people as opposed to a robot side of people like whenever you're i don't know what they said i assume it was some written prepared statement whatever you don't look like a human there but if you were to go up there and say yeah i should talk to coach well i don't really we didn't get along i mean we have but i still respect them this was just a joking situation i think people respect it more than saying we did not know we were being recorded
Starting point is 01:49:25 obviously and it's a private conversation i assume they said i didn't pretty much yeah i mean that was just we didn't know we were being recorded and like you kind of you said it it just when you assume that you're being recorded at all times yes i do by the way anytime I'm in Indiana I just assume somebody has a camera on me and it's only because I it's cool it's very cool that people know me but people won't say hi to me but they'll tweet a picture of me and it's very interesting it's like oh I'm being watched right now
Starting point is 01:49:56 I didn't know that guy was there that took a picture of me from right next to me and then tweeted it to me oh didn't want to interrupt you but I'm like oh that kind of makes me think oh you're just watching me today i it's my mom used to track where i was just by following my mentions just like oh just saw pat walking through the circle center mall just saw pat walking downtown just saw this and my mom would be like oh okay and then i'd show up late to something i'd be like oh i'm sorry and she's like oh really you aren't you just at circle center fucking mall i'm like well how did you know that you're like oh fucking at jr rice just saw you down there didn't want to interrupt you i'm like yeah and
Starting point is 01:50:33 that was when everything started changing for me i will say that and i mean that's kind of society in a nutshell right now there's no privacy really anymore you do something stupid you're gonna end up uh if it's recorded you're gonna end up up on someone's meme account being made a fool of. What are you going to do? Richard Sherman, first day of training camp, gets cooked. Can't even practice anymore. He's viral on the internet for getting absolutely demolished. And now they show highlights.
Starting point is 01:50:56 The check down shows highlights of guys just getting beat. They're like, oh, don't play with what's-his-face. But they fail to recognize that there's somebody on the other side of that and like maybe in the game it just gets kind of glossed over now it's like if you get embarrassed it's out there it is though the internet can't wait for it and it's uh i think you just gotta be woke i think you just gotta be woke and just know that it's gonna happen to you though like at some point you're gonna get caught like we all agree it shouldn't that conversation
Starting point is 01:51:25 shouldn't have been recorded it was a scumbag move but it was so what are you gonna do in the aftermath of it how do you face that moving forward you have to be prepared for that moving forward they just want a bunch more and more they want a game i guess yeah that's pretty awesome but no you just can't talk around people you don't know i think that's kind of rules number one through ten by the way yeah doing anything of importance you can't talk around people you don't know i think that's kind of rules number one through ten by the way yeah doing anything of importance you can't talk around people you don't know just like hey all these watch dateline you know all these murderers they get caught because they tell people yeah you just gotta deal with everything in your life now just can't tell anybody anything that you don't know we had a conversation a few weeks back you asked if we talked to uber drivers this is why i don't
Starting point is 01:52:01 you don't talk to uber drivers no get in the back seat small talk bro you just have if they started off and they're asking interesting shit i will engage but i'm not going to be the one like hey how's your day going how's your drive going good question for the next uber driver so you can just have a conversation with them did you think joe donnelly had a chance that could be your question literally my worst nightmare couldn't care less what they think or what they have to say. There's a new thing on Uber that tells you what they want to talk about. Is there a no option? I think there is.
Starting point is 01:52:33 I think you can tell them that you don't want to talk. I think it is. But there is a thing like subjects to ask about. I think I saw it. I was dying. Great with art conversations. History. This one guy was history. So I obviously went in and I asked about Noah. That's a history. was dying great with art conversations oh history this one guy was history uh so i wanted i obviously went in i asked about noah that's a history tell me about what you know about noah guys
Starting point is 01:52:50 how deep in the history books do you go do you know about the first ever recorded blackout i'd like to hear about it see i guess that's the trick is the small talk where you avoid personal topics and you're just talking about the zito talk yeah that's that's literally life in general yeah that's life in general that's why i hate it we send zito to the front every single time and he loves it oh absolutely i like it i'm i get intrigued by that stuff too oh yeah for sure i very much enjoy it it's i love watching someone else do it i just don't want to be involved in it i want to observe so what are you gonna do you're gonna do hockey talk right now to do hockey talk? Right now? Yeah, just hockey talk. What else? You do tech stuff?
Starting point is 01:53:26 I assume there's some tech stuff. Oh, yeah. In terms of blogging, yeah, I'm going to do a little bit of everything, I think. I want to do some football stuff, too, but I don't want to cuck digs. I did a movie thing today. That is something that happens, huh? I guess. Everybody has their own little...
Starting point is 01:53:39 Yeah, kind of. That's just how... You don't want it to get watered down with everyone writing about the same shit. Well, it's like you never know what you're going to have an opinion on that day either, right? You come in, you see what's going on in the world, and you're like, oh, okay. I have something to say here. I have an opinion on a CBD shop we went to today. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:53:58 Bro, CBD is legal in Indiana. Awesome news. And I knew it as oil. I didn't know it was nugs. I had no idea. A dry herb. It news. And I knew it as oil. I didn't know it was nugs. I had no idea. A dry herb. It's flour, he calls it.
Starting point is 01:54:12 We bought CBD flour over there. It smells exactly like weed, smokes exactly like a bonfire, and does absolutely nothing to you. It's terrible. It just made me tired. It doesn't. But he has a lot of CBD over there, relaxing bears. I'm a big CBD guy for my joints. So I was excited for this store that's right by us. Go to checkout, $572 later.
Starting point is 01:54:31 I was like, what? That was absurd. Absurd? Absurd? Had to pay for it, though. You don't really have an issue with dropping a few hundos. The guy said $572, and there was a full conversation that started amongst the group. It was me, Diggs.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Who else was over there, Ty? You, Connor. Yeah, Connor. And Connor. And as soon as the guy said that, me and Diggs were like, what? I thought he was joking. Because there's no price tags on anything. So it was like, you get up there, it was like show and tell almost.
Starting point is 01:55:03 Like, oh, ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah, that's $175. What? was there a heads up anywhere that i missed no no that's natural flower that we grew in the backyard no thc only cbd it's like i understand this is a new business but maybe have return customers i will never i will never go back there again they're very nice i assume their product is very good but there's no way i expected to pay 572 dollars no my knees the gas station my knees better be fully replaced by this stuff well yeah the gas station's like 15 bucks i don't know if he knows he's competing against that like you're not the only I think he thought he was the only store in town He was like oh I'm kind of the first trying to trouble you
Starting point is 01:55:48 I'm like no no no There's a head shop that sells some CBD over in Broad Ripple This gas station right back here That has like glass in front of the window So you know it's in a good area That place that sells CBD Well that's like towards the end of my years in Pittsburgh When we were leaving vape shops started popping up everywhere
Starting point is 01:56:04 And I'm assuming it's like that in most cities. But I don't understand how that's a sustainable model when they're selling that shit at gas stations anyways, too. It has to be a front, right? That's just literally a front coming in the back to get to real stuff. There were so many. So many. So many in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 01:56:16 Yeah, they're all fronts. I assume the Italians were behind it. There weren't like cigarette stores, you know? Occasionally there was a tobacco store for cigars, but that's specialty stuff. I don't know. Maybe you should write about that. Maybe I will. Whenever we hear your...
Starting point is 01:56:29 Are you just miserable? Should we read it in a miserable tone? No, I don't think so. Are you happier on paper? Can be. There's potential there. You want to do some throwback music? Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:56:40 All right, I'm in. I've been rocking this song heavy. Man, I's do it. All right, I'm in. I've been rocking this song heavy. Man, I got this way. My head nuts in my bag. This is by the Fast Life Youngstas. Of course. Y-U-N-G-S-T-A-Z. Bangers only.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Man, I got this way. My head nuts in my bag only You know What they say I'm on it Not it It's not it This used to really bang But it's disappeared
Starting point is 01:57:22 This is like one of those Old songs that didn't get played but still a heater. One hit, yeah. Like the Macarena. Yep. Dick's saying the Macarena's not a heater, by the way. It's absurd. Yeah, he said that about Achy Breaking Heart.
Starting point is 01:57:33 Yikes. Going down. This song's a heater, though. Oh, yeah. If this came on and you were out, everyone would be feeling it. Is this a video? Fox, if we have a... It's a camera, right? True. Can we not just snipe them off of there? I live
Starting point is 01:57:51 in a content building and I never have a picture to post on Instagram. It's like every night I'm like, oh, I should post on Instagram. I'm like, I don't have a single photo from today. Not a one of them What a good fit Oh yeah we got some good ones You talking about like the current fit you're wearing right now It's pretty good Me and Steve Jobs dress the same every day Okay
Starting point is 01:58:15 It's decision making fatigue No sleeves Normally black Fresh shoes Keep it moving Now that I'm getting thinner though Me and steve weatherford me if you want to look like me and steve he has not responded to that i think he's pissed off about it that's not good you'll come around i came out um i came out of the room the other day to this
Starting point is 01:58:40 sam was sitting in the living room. Just had this blaring on my Bluetooth speaker real loud, echoing through the house. I said, hey, Sam. Well, you can tell everybody. Yeah, you can tell everybody. Go ahead and tell everybody. I'm the man, I'm the man.
Starting point is 01:59:01 Because I successfully plunged the toilet. I mean, if anything deserves this song to be blasting after it, it's an accomplishment like that. That's exactly what I said. Sam didn't feel the same way. I was like, Sam, excuse me. Just dropped a goddamn python in the toilet. It came out of the water like the Titanic iceberg.
Starting point is 01:59:25 Went down, couldn't do it, plunged that thing. Boom. I'm a grown man. Well, it's just a man. Could have been her to plunge in. The man. She didn't think about that. We have separate thrones. She has one, I have one. She has a different bathroom. That's nice.
Starting point is 01:59:41 That's a luxury I'd like to have. Very nice. My throne is nice. That's a luxury I'd like to have. Very nice. My throne is nice and comfortable. She can do what she wants with hers. Mine has got a good rug in front of it. Oh, like a soft rug. Yeah, nothing better. I got a nice like there's a place to hang my shirt. I take my shirt off every poop. Yep. Shirt off. Pants off, too. I'm in there. We're here for a while. See, I'm losing my private bath. Huh? I'm moving with Ty. One bathroom over there? Yep. That's terrible.
Starting point is 02:00:15 It's not ideal. It's not good. We have two at the pub. One of them's going to fall through. Yeah, I thought one was like uninhabitable. Post-election day, I think this is something we all need to do.
Starting point is 02:00:31 You know? Mike Braun, by the way, lock of the century, I told you last week. Was headline news last night. He's going to change the culture too. That's what he said. Mike Braun.
Starting point is 02:00:44 Blue shirt Braun said that he didn't want to be as vicious in political ads anymore no show Joe was like excuse me we both started laughing
Starting point is 02:00:56 when the sky started to rain get along down the road we got a long long way to go scared to live scared to die we ain't perfect but we try I watched Sean do that chef thing with wonton thon, but at my house it wouldn't load.
Starting point is 02:01:19 So I saw the first minute and a half. Can somebody tell me what happened in the last seven minutes? Did Sean win? He won last night. In the Rangoon? Yes. He beat the Wanton Don in what he does, Rangoon. Correct. Tacos tonight, apparently.
Starting point is 02:01:34 Sean's got to feel very good about what's happening moving forward. I don't know if Donnie Does signed up for the right thing here. I don't know if he does. But I thought about this song. From West Virginia? Oh man, what a night. I added't know if he does. But I thought about this song. From West Virginia. Oh man, what a night. I added this into my workout list
Starting point is 02:01:49 after the show last night. The funny thing about this it's a Meek Mill song. And we're playing it. Hindsight. The whole place was lit. That's all in your head. He talked to you. The Rolex. The whole place was lit. That's all that matters.
Starting point is 02:02:06 Diamond ring. Wearing. Kid stealing. Woo. Wheel and deal. Woo. Limousine riding. Jet flying.
Starting point is 02:02:13 Set up a gun. And I'm having a hard time. Holding down. It's all. Woo. Pay about that life. Pay about that life. Pay about that life.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Pay about that life. Not that much of a throwback. Pay about that life. Still counts. a throwback. Still counts. Recent throwback. Modern history. Because there's a lot of songs now, actually, that breeze by after a year,
Starting point is 02:02:35 and then you forget about completely. How about this one? Huh? Do you know who this is, Ty? Is this Korn? Huh. Is it? Something takes Korn? Huh. Is it? Something takes a part of me.
Starting point is 02:02:50 I used to love Korn. They had a run there with Limp. Something takes a part of me. This was a heater back in the day. Korn, it was like everybody listened to Korn. Yeah. A little intense too. Well,
Starting point is 02:03:08 rock in general was really, like you said, Limp Bizkit, Deftones, there were a lot of bands back then that were getting like mainstream play. Can we talk about that?
Starting point is 02:03:19 I'm so happy I have, they're in the same section on the fucking, of course, they're linked together for a time. They're right next to each other right there. NHL
Starting point is 02:03:29 hits 0-2. That's what this is from. Fucking love that game. This is from fucking... Hey, hockey side. Smackdown. Back up, back up Back up, back up This band broke up shortly after this song, but what a hater. I don't know how they decided to break up after this. Are they done done or are they still making me?
Starting point is 02:04:00 I mean, I know the one left. The Havana girl. Yeah. I am wearing a nada I'm sitting pretty impatient I mean, I know the one left. The Havana girl. Yeah. I wonder which one of them had a guy that was working for a living. None of them. This is a writer. Ain't none of them dating a third shift, right?
Starting point is 02:04:30 You played Kenny earlier, and we know he doesn't write all his own music. He has writers. Do you think he tells his a scale of one to ten nine point seven on a scale of one to ten what do you want nine point seven okay it's coming you said you wanted a nine point seven are you sure? Always. How are you rating that 9.7, though? Is it like energy level? Is it how big it got at one point? No, just overall atmosphere.
Starting point is 02:05:14 How does it make you feel? It doesn't have to be energy necessarily, but how it hits you. So is it a party or is it a workout? I mean, what's the scene here? You're picking the music. You're setting the scene. Well, I want to know what your 9.7 was thinking it was though because i need to know because i would like to live up to your 9.7 hype there i mean you set a pretty high standard there
Starting point is 02:05:33 so now i'm like well what what type of mood is he in a 9.7 to me i guess would be a party like you might be able to hit that in the gym but you got to be putting some work in. This will do it. This will do the job. This is a 10. This song. This is a 10. Academy Award winners! We stronger than ever! I felt good about it when I saw
Starting point is 02:05:58 it in this playlist, too. I got a private playlist that I think might be the greatest collection of songs in the history of collection of songs. Why don't you put it out there? Just for you. This one's for me. I respect that.
Starting point is 02:06:10 I mean, at some point, if this all comes crashing down, I'll put it out. We need subscribers. You got to keep some things just to you. Yeah. You're right. You're 100%. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Oh. Yeah Oh Oh, that's a good one Pop brand new tags off of brand new clothes Can't figure it out Uh-uh. Oh, here's a good one. Huh? What do you want? One to ten.
Starting point is 02:06:55 Big one. Let's take it down a little bit. Oh, no. Let's go 6.7. Okay. Nice. Hmm. You found it.
Starting point is 02:07:14 You found the spot. It's like a 6 to 8, I think. You got to read the party, you know? Where are we at? We're at a 6 to 8? Got it. Nothing too crazy. It's a head bobber situation happening.
Starting point is 02:07:39 Me too, man. Okay. Yeah. I do my own thing. So let me do it. If you want to know one thing about me, about my paper breaker. As soon as my iPhone rings, I'll see you later. Later. Grab my keys and then I'm out.
Starting point is 02:07:54 The first thing, if it's about that cheese, then I'm about it. I'll be stacking up. Got no time for those who know time. Backing up. Keep that clean and watch some day is cruising down the street. Here.
Starting point is 02:08:06 My car before it's coming Ain't no police Ain't no police And my chick bad She gon' ride the things Get crazy goons messed up They gon' slide You tried to play me since a youngin' Yeah, this one would be like
Starting point is 02:08:18 Walking into the party, I feel like. You think so? This would be a good entrance. Speaking of entrances, at some point in the future, I am going to be the United States champion. Okay? Basically the president.
Starting point is 02:08:31 Okay. At some point, I'm going to be the United States champion. Let's just, I'm going to will this one. This is going to be one that I'm going to really push for. Because John Cena is getting Captain America. Okay? Somebody else is getting Booster Gold. But this United States champion, I think, really has a chance here.
Starting point is 02:08:48 That's where you're going to stake your claim. Basically the president. That's the whole thing. You're going to give executive orders? Basically. Basically. Everything is basically. I'm already thinking of it.
Starting point is 02:09:01 I can't wait for it. I'm going to really push hard for this one. And what should my intro music be? I've been thinking about this a lot because we are closer to this potentially becoming a reality than ever before in my life. Not that it will, not that it's a luck, but this is closer to a reality
Starting point is 02:09:21 than it's ever been in the history, right? I'm just on a microphone now, but is there a way I can maybe weasel my way into maybe get an open mic in an arena one time is there a way we'll find out we will find out but this is you know we're kind of do i go with a song that's already created because cm punk cult of personality right when that hits is awesome you know what i mean it is and then you kind of like crafted into yours like it was the bands before but then a lot of people know that only know that song as cm punks me yeah all i know that is of cm punks so it's like do i have black betty hit do i do i come out to black betty but that is not my own thing black but he's already taken yeah see you strike
Starting point is 02:10:01 me as the guy who would go in there and want to get like hands on and make the song yourself too i kind of want to come through the crowd too by the way i could basically present man of the people i want to come i want to come through the crowd not like i would like the sandman used to not like the shield does like yeah yeah you take your time you enjoy it you soak it up well and i don't want security either no i want to i want to not great maybe one maybe so we can guide the way there but i want there to be i went there to be a mob of humans coming to the ring at the same time man of the people me and me and the people basically the president that's the thought so now you need music that works with that right i i almost see me coming out of it could be anywhere just like
Starting point is 02:10:40 salmon where you didn't know where's stinger you had no idea where he was coming in from i kind of enjoy that thought like nobody knows where he was coming in from. I kind of enjoy that thought. Like, nobody knows where I'm coming in from, but I'm coming in from the crowd. There's only one thing that is happening. It's I'm coming through the crowd somewhere. And I feel like back in the day, it was a little bit more looser because there wasn't as many lawsuits.
Starting point is 02:10:57 Now, they probably have to keep everybody off me because if anybody gets run over or hit... Sandman used to chug beers out there and hit himself in the head with sticks. Smoking unfiltered cigs. In the middle of everybody. everybody it's like i don't know if that bleeding on them he'd bust his head open off those beer cans just bleed on people that's what i'm saying i wish i could do that that's what i'm saying because i think the energy of the the arena would be insane there you know it would be insane it's just something to think about so whenever
Starting point is 02:11:25 you're thinking of music i need you to think that like oh what should pats be you know i wouldn't mind if it had like a um like a white stripes bass guitar hum along with it because like shinsuke nakamura's singable yeah you want something to get the crowd completely involved you're in the crowd you're one of them and then they're singing to get the crowd completely involved. You're in the crowd. You're one of them, and then they're singing along to the song too. Completely involved. So what I would like is,
Starting point is 02:11:50 I would like the potential top to get popped in every arena. That's what I would like, to potentially pop the top of every arena with everybody. Singing, a whole thing, just need to figure it out. That's all we need. Maybe Clayton Anderson can work on a fucking song. Good luck.
Starting point is 02:12:10 That guy. Heartland Radio's been waiting for what? Six months. This guy, he's on a beach every fucking day. What's he doing? Probably closer to a calendar year, to be honest with you. You know what?
Starting point is 02:12:20 Clayton Anderson, one of the most handsome and talented people we've ever heard. Nice guy. Good time to hang out with. He's just so big time. He's so big time now. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:12:28 So big time now. Can't make a couple little... He's got a show in Pittsburgh, in Indy. Yep. Rathskeller. Hell yeah. Going to go to that for sure. Well, I won't, but you guys can.
Starting point is 02:12:38 I might go. It's on outside. Is it inside or outside? I don't know. If it's inside, probably not going. Outside, I'll potentially go. Outside's a good a good time well there's also escape yeah so that's my big thing i look for escape you know i like to do the old irish goodbye this has been awesome gone see you later so think about the entrance though i will i will i can do some digging i'm sure we can come up with
Starting point is 02:13:05 something me coming through a crowd though with like a big because the glass break on stone cold steve austin is something that is incomparable right now there's nothing that is but there has to be something that sets the tone well do you want the slow build or do you want the immediate hit like the austin glass breaking slow build would be cool if i'm coming out of the the arena because the amount of build up you could have there but i would some people would see me because i'd be walking through the arena so that would only be like what 150th of their arena would see me so it's not that big of a deal but i do i do maybe a slow build is the way to go maybe it's like pitch black in there maybe it's pitch black in there. Maybe it's pitch black in there.
Starting point is 02:13:45 Because you get like DX did it a little bit with the boom, boom. Are you ready? Yeah, yeah. I think maybe there's a slow. I like a piano, though. There's a lot of elements we're pulling here. A piano and a bass guitar. Maybe a trumpet.
Starting point is 02:14:01 Timmy. Like a Timmy trumpet. You get it. Basically the president. So we got to be act accordingly you know i can't just have some bum ass entrance it's got to be a good one what if this happens by the way would be hilarious a lot of moving parts but i think we can find it no forget that but what if i'm just walking around with the united states championship belt on my like if i have the title on because i would wear it every single day it would be my belt it
Starting point is 02:14:24 would be my actual hold up my pants belt i would somehow figure out a way to make it well you just get custom-made pants with bigger loops yep yes i would yes i would do that i would be custom jorts custom jeans big loops with big loops so we can put the belt around it and even even hold it up every day of my life i would work. Every single day I would work. Basically the president. That'd be a good time. I don't know if I'm tough enough though to be honest. That's a good reality show that should be brought back. I did like Tough Enough.
Starting point is 02:14:54 KFC was asking about reality shows that you would think to bring back on the Twitter. Tough Enough is probably the one that I'm thinking. Yeah. I feel like the rest of them are still on like survivor they still do that right survivor still on maybe weakest link we talked is that our consumer reality show now it's a game show game show weakest link though
Starting point is 02:15:15 as a heater we need it we talked about the other day in this office i missed the you are the weakest link lady goodbye i missed that lady she was electric on television she would have did really well on the internet. Oh, oh. Very well. Oh, my God. She did well. She did do well. Deal or no deal still happens.
Starting point is 02:15:30 Who wants to be a millionaire? Deal or no deal still on? I think so. I think it's on Game Show Network. I think. That was a good show, too. Howie Mandel did the two and two thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:39 Back at you. He's kind of a weirdo, huh? Yeah. Big time. What's his deal? Why is he so... Huge germaphobe. Yeah, big germaphobe. time what's his deal why is he so huge germaphobe germaphobe no no but why is he oh why is he so big why is he why is he over so like why does he have that america's got talent kick i never understood that i don't know i knew him from fucking bobby's world
Starting point is 02:15:56 when we were growing there it is so bobby's world led him to deal or no deal which led him to america's got talent seems like like i don't know what else he did in the meantime maybe he was touring doing stand-up or something i don't know he's an enjoyable it. I don't know what else he did in the meantime. Maybe he was touring doing stand up or something. I don't know. He's an enjoyable person. When he speaks, I enjoy it. On America's Got Talent, he just tells everybody to vote. That's all he ever says. Just vote. Terry Crews, new host of America's Got Talent. That's a good pick. Tyra Banks out.
Starting point is 02:16:16 Terry Crews in. That's a good pick. Tyra felt like she was just getting comfortable, to be honest. Very comfortable. What happened then, do you think? Do you think she left on her own that's what i'm saying or you think they were like nah we're done did simon cowell say no he's the boss of the thing did simon cowell be bad enough yeah it's gonna be a no for me it's gonna be a no you are disgusting remember back when he was a savage on american idol oh
Starting point is 02:16:44 yeah he's not like that anymore. Now he's got a kid and the whole thing. He does seem real chill now. I don't watch it often, but I catch it occasionally. Still hilarious. I just think he lost his edge a little bit because he's so ridiculously wealthy. And I think he started selling WWE themes, by the way. I think that's how he got his start.
Starting point is 02:16:59 I think WWE music somehow has the tie to Simon Cowell's start. I think. This is real? You're not? No, I'm being 100% serious. I think there's a tie-in between Simon Cowell and WWE Music
Starting point is 02:17:11 at the beginning of the show. Oh. I could be very wrong, but in my head, that is, for some reason, my brain just popped those two up. I can tell you for a fact
Starting point is 02:17:19 that WWE Music is the reason I got the internet as a kid. My friend had AOL and it was the first time I'd ever seen it and he was downloading wrestling music and I was like, this is the coolest thing ever. I need it.
Starting point is 02:17:29 I ran home to my parents like, we need to get the internet right now. I need it. Is that right? Yeah. He started his career by creating novelty records with Axe. Power Rangers was one of them and then the WWF was the other one. Power Rangers soundtrack. Very good too. Very underrated. It bangs.
Starting point is 02:17:46 Yeah, I can say with real conviction that I've never heard the Power Rangers soundtrack and never watched the Power Rangers. I can say that. Yeah, we know you didn't have a childhood. Easy. You get taped up and balls thrown at you by your dad. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:02 Granted it worked. It paid off. There's a reason though you know what i mean there's life lessons being taught there that old blue fat power ranger can't figure out you know what i mean no that was the the the mcgillicuddies the uh teletubbies those things were hot for a while back in the day. I never watched them, but man, everybody loved those goddamn Teletubbies. They had the sunshine with the baby's face on it. Dude, it was huge.
Starting point is 02:18:32 I don't know how they thought of all that stuff. Drugs. Yeah, for sure. Blue's Clues had to be the most drugs in the history of drugs to create that show. And the dude got caught with drugs, I'm pretty sure. Or was an addict. I heard he didn't. I heard it didn't happen. That was fake news. Yeah, I think we found it on this show. No, I'm pretty sure. Or was an addict. I heard he didn't. I heard it didn't happen.
Starting point is 02:18:45 That was fake news. Yeah, I think we found out on this show. No, I think he did drugs. I think the rumor was that he killed himself. I think that was the fake news. Yeah, I thought he didn't kill himself. I'm pretty sure he was a heroin addict or something like that. I think it was.
Starting point is 02:18:56 Bro, that drug gets you, man. I don't know how that happens there. I don't know how that happens. That's a shame. It's a real shame. Artie Lang, have you ever seen Artie Lang recently? Yikes. He is not looking good we were going to new york to sirius and arty lang was blackmailing howard stern on a fucking brand the same day and i just i just started scrolling
Starting point is 02:19:18 around and arty lang and i remember arty lang from back in the day watching howard stern on e i remember arty from watching him on e and i i somehow landed on because i saw like howard you pay me five thousand dollars or everything's coming out i thought it was a troll account i click on no it was the actual already laying and then i clicked on some pictures i'm like oh my god this is like the this is your brain on drugs that's that should be the campaign there that should be the commercial it's not weed doing that, right? He's had a really hard couple years. That's really good news.
Starting point is 02:19:49 That's really good news. I was worried that old CBD for $570 was going to turn me into that. Why do people do it? It's not enough. You need more. Moderation is the key to everything. Go on. So you either can accept and live within the
Starting point is 02:20:07 limits that you set for yourself or you can't no this is some deep philosophy well like they call weed a gateway drug and it's only a gateway drug if if you feel like you need more some people are very content just to smoke marijuana other people they call it a gateway drug because i would assume if you're willing to do heroin you're willing to smoke weed right so let's say a hundred percent saying yeah that's where you start of people who have done heroin i assume have also smoked weed very yeah very likely i would assume yeah if you're willing to it's a very assumable thing yes so saying it's a gateway drug is very interesting because i i you would that would say that marijuana leads to that. That's what gateway would mean, right?
Starting point is 02:20:49 Gateway would mean leads to, and I don't think that's the case at all. Well, I'm sure it does for some people. But stats can spin however you want them. Right. Like if you do heroin, I assume you drink alcohol as well. At some point, you have drank alcohol. Yes. I've drank a lot of alcohol, and I've smoked a lot of weed, and I've never felt the desire or urge or need to do heroin.
Starting point is 02:21:10 Same. Let's put that on record and send it to the fda you ever taken pain pills print it oh you're taking pain pills yeah are you on pain are you on pain pills right now because you're clavicle no are you sure yes why not there's a difference though believe me i know wait why aren't you what why am i not what why not why aren't you on they gave me tylenol with uh codeine in it and it didn't really scissor did you make some some lean did you codeine lean crush it up pour it in there a little sprite did you do that like my sprite easter pink yeah double cupped no i've tried it before i still have it i've been slinging it to the dudes on the street out here. Good move.
Starting point is 02:21:46 Because I understand. Put me to bed. Oh, yeah. You go bye-bye. Put me to bed immediately. There was a kid from Houston on our team. His friend came into town for a weekend. They're like, oh, we got this.
Starting point is 02:21:58 We got lean. We got lean. We got lean. Had the whole party over there. Everybody was asleep in 25 minutes. Everybody was dead best sleep i woke up five hours later and i was like holy shit i felt like i was in that couch right there and then i peeled my roommate out of there and we're like let's get out of here it was i can understand why people enjoy a very comfortable state of mind very very comfortable state of mind i don't know how to do with your clavicle but yeah it didn't really i
Starting point is 02:22:24 feel like it didn't really do that much for me i was taking uh like max strength tylenol and it was doing the same thing i would assume the carbonation does something to it i would assume that there's some reason why they mix i don't know why there has to be something that cooks i don't know so you were just drinking it when you did it just like drinking dirty sprite yeah okay have you ever done it on like a blunt or something like that no i've done that that is same result you'll be in yeah by 20 minutes done for dude so so why does it's probably because well it's a lot of people like toby practice they relax your joys yeah yeah so they're that's why they get addicted to the relaxing feeling is that what it is yeah it's
Starting point is 02:23:03 uppers and downers everyone Everyone has their own little kick and whatever triggers them and what they need to feel good. Yeah, but Lean was rapped about in every rap song for a decade. A decade. I'm like, man, these guys are sleeping good. These guys are sleeping really good.
Starting point is 02:23:17 I only tried it one time, though. I was out. See you later. Great sleep. If I ever can't sleep, I'm not going to go the Michael Jackson route. I'm going to go the lean route probably if I can guess. People are using – the Michael Jackson was using the surgery shit, right?
Starting point is 02:23:32 Same thing though, yeah. He probably started out using a little bit, built up a tolerance to it, wasn't getting the same fix, and then kept increasing and increasing. You think Michael Jackson ever drank alcohol? Yeah. Let's go back to your stat right now. Let's go back to your stat right now. You think Michael Jackson ever drank alcohol? For sure. He strikes me as a big wine guy. alcohol yeah go back to your stat right now we go back to your stat right now you think michael
Starting point is 02:23:45 jackson ever drank alcohol for sure he's a big wine guy yeah he was giving it to kids i don't think he was out there like ripping shots but i think he enjoyed himself a couple cocktails i guess he was spending like something like sixty thousand dollars a day or something jesus they should i watched this one like documentary piece on him it was like a behind the music piece or whatever and he was just pointing at things and buying them on. It was like a behind the music piece or whatever. And he was just pointing at things and buying them on camera. It was like the statue of an elephant. It was like 40 grand.
Starting point is 02:24:11 He was like, yeah, I want that. And it was just showing up at his house. You go in his house and it looked like a fucking museum of things that are just like artifacts, collectibles. It's like this guy is what a wildlife. That's what happens when you have no one to tell you no know, in life and no checks and balances and no moderation. You just do shit like that. Then the next thing you know, you're drugging yourself to fall asleep until you die. Joe Jackson gets a lot of blame.
Starting point is 02:24:35 Well, yeah. Abusive childhood will do that, too. I'm scared to be a dad. What if my kid? What if my kid's a fucking lunatic? What do you do? He's going to suck. My kid's going to suck. I know that. It's going to be an active little fucker? He's going to suck. My kid's going to suck.
Starting point is 02:24:45 I know that. He's going to be an active little fucker. He's going to be annoying. He's going to talk a lot. I know what's coming. And then what if he's a lunatic? What do I do with a little lunatic? Hey, hey.
Starting point is 02:24:57 Stop. Is that what I'm supposed to say? I don't think that's going to work. And I'm going to quit on him. I know it. Beat that. I know what's going to happen. Patience is going to quit on them. I know it. That'd be bad. I know what's going to happen. Patience is tough with children.
Starting point is 02:25:08 So you're a single man. Yeah. You're 32. Have you ever been in a situation where you've had to think about marriage and kids? I am in it. I want to let you know I am in it right now. I am in this situation where I have to think about it.
Starting point is 02:25:22 And it's wild. This is a very wild thing the thought of reproducing might be the most scary thing i've ever had in my life i don't even think you should even think think about thinking about it for another 10 years i agree at least hey i agree with you it's shit to do hey i would like to be comfortable first before we get this kid to be comfortable in this world as soon as as you have a kid, you give up all your dreams. All your dreams and hopes go right to that kid. That seems to be the way it goes.
Starting point is 02:25:49 Unless you want to be a bad dad. All your insecurities and doubt. Also, you just download right into that kid's brain. Congrats, kid. Here you go. I didn't even think about that. That's a very hilarious thought that Nick would have that I would never have in my entire life. But yeah, I've been thinking about this stuff.
Starting point is 02:26:06 Like I'm almost an adult now. I'm thinking about my next comedy set being called Almost an Adult. Like it's, here I am. I'm almost an adult. Plunging toilets now. Changing out fucking AC units. Water coolers.
Starting point is 02:26:19 Redoing a floor. Stain washing shit. I'm almost an adult. I gotta think about this stuff. It's crazy. It's like at night I can't sleep. Because I'm almost an adult. I got to think about this stuff. It's crazy. It's like at night I can't sleep because I'm either thinking of something we should do here and then as soon as that subsides,
Starting point is 02:26:30 it's like, imagine if there was a kid here. Your life would suck. And it's like, well, that's right around the corner, I think. And then it's another two hours of me just thinking of how terrible my kid's going to be. I'm never going to win a dad of the year award, so why are we even thinking about it? And by that time, it's 2.33 a.m.
Starting point is 02:26:46 Can't sleep. Might as well just stay up. Here we are, back in the office tomorrow morning. It's a never-ending cycle. These kids are ruining my life before they even come into my life. It's a nightmare. How am I going to rip up the sidewalks on an electric scooter if I've got a kid? I'd get hurt, but I can't take care of myself
Starting point is 02:27:01 for the kid. Yeah, you've got to make up a lie about what happened. Daddy stopped a robbery. You you got to make up a lie about what happened. Daddy stopped a robbery. You got to make up some lie so the kid thinks you're good. It's tough. It's like Todd had Gator back there. I don't even know. Well, you see a lot there now. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:27:17 That's what I'm saying. Todd and him are like boys. It's not like Todd's his dad. It's like Todd's his boy. They're boys with each other the first time i heard him that they were interacting and he called him todd i almost like had a heart attack if i ever called my dad steve he would knock every single one of my fucking teeth out in the snap of a finger hey tim why don't you and steve fucking go talk to each other oh my god
Starting point is 02:27:42 it would be interesting but that's how todd and bailey are like boys like friends it's like oh maybe that would be what what i do with my kid and then i'm like how the fuck i gotta teach him some discipline because sam's not going to sam's just gonna give this thing everything it needs everything he could possibly want so it's like well then do i have to be the asshole for isn't 18 years do i have to be an asshole to one person oh nightmare i think i'm going to by the way i've decided kid no i think i'm gonna be i think i'm gonna be tough stern i think i'm gonna be a prick for the first like 10 years of his life i think i'm gonna be pretty stern they'll appreciate it down the road yeah it's gonna be a rough time so you're going one single child route yeah yeah for sure wow yeah
Starting point is 02:28:19 yeah make him a spoiled little fuck What I think is I should go broke So he has to grow up with You know Like hey kid Hey kid listen We're all hungry now Okay so keep working Yeah
Starting point is 02:28:31 Because we used to be rich And it was a lot of fun So you work hard So we can do that again That would be fun 18 years from now This is an 18 year investment in you Because what happens
Starting point is 02:28:39 I'm going to want to give my kid everything Probably So then he's just a spoiled little Very hard to fight that urge. Yeah. This was 1 a.m. to about 1.45 a.m. two nights ago, this one right here. Like, how am I not going to spoil my kid so then he's a soft bitch forever? Not that bitch is a bad thing.
Starting point is 02:28:57 It is. It's a female dog. I think you can spoil him, and I think it's just the parenting still comes in. I have a feeling you'll know when it's like, all right, I've got to crack the whip on this little fucker. Yeah, it's like Foxy. Yeah, Foxy's like my child. You've done pretty well.
Starting point is 02:29:14 You're like my child, Foxy. You're like my child. But you already know how to pee and poop and stuff. Yeah. You know? Yeah, he was a head start. He was adopted, basically. Yeah, which, by the way, adopt, don't shop if you're looking for animals.
Starting point is 02:29:27 And we almost ended up with two more dogs this past weekend because of Sam's fucking lunatic. It's lunatic stuff. I think I'm going to be at Purdue on Sunday. I think I'm going to be at Purdue. For? Their dance marathon. I think I'm going to be at their dance marathon on Sunday. Pretty cool.
Starting point is 02:29:42 I get invited to these literally every year. The IU, Ball State. on sunday pretty cool i get invited to these literally every year the iu ball state everybody does these dance marathons because it raised they raise a ton of money it's really cool watching these colleges come together and every year i get a bunch of tweets about me coming to different colleges once and i've always felt like if i go to one i have to go to the mall and also i'll just donate from remote. So it's like, you know, which I donated to, I think, every single dance marathon in the state as like a donation.
Starting point is 02:30:14 On Sunday, though, there's something really cool happening at Purdue, and I'm going for it. So maybe this will start the dance marathon marathon. So I'll start going to all of them. Maybe just go to a different one each year. That's what I'm saying. I think that's what happens. Yeah. Because this will be my first time really getting to see the –
Starting point is 02:30:29 because the amount of money they raise is insane. It's incredible. It's incredible. I did it three years at Iowa. It's awesome. It is. It's so cool. It's like a thing where a college –
Starting point is 02:30:38 these millennials are bashed a lot. Right. But they come together and just raise a ton of money for cancer research, I believe is what it is. Yep, FTK, for the kids. For the kids. It's everywhere. It's cross-country now. And I'm excited to go to Purdue and see this one.
Starting point is 02:30:52 I'm excited to see how it all works and stuff like that because it's magic. The amount of money raised there is huge. The Plum Telethon, remember those? Yeah, I was supposed to run one, produce one basically, but I got in-school suspension like two days before it happened. The vice principal told me I was lucky to even have my name in the credits. Casella?
Starting point is 02:31:13 Yeah. Why'd you get suspended? That guy's the best. Piece of shit. That guy's the best. We were messing around with my one buddy, and it was like joking, and I pushed him. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:31:27 Just like locker room, not locker room room but like high school hallway bullshit yeah yeah and when i pushed him my other friends stuck his foot out and tripped him oh and he fell classic school boy he fell and he got a little cut on his head oh you know nothing bad blood bleeds his bloody blood yeah but he bled sounds like a standard bully move to me he went home his mom freaked out called the school and me and my friend weren't in school you're friends with the kid yeah and his mom called on you yeah it's wild times oh you any throwback songs uh maybe Nope. I'm done. Well. I'm done. Well. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:32:12 Hey, yo. This is Black Entertainment. Bad Boy South. Bitch, you can't do it. Gorilla Zone. We bottle pop it. You cock walk it. Told the girl you rapped. Excuse me.
Starting point is 02:32:23 This song was so big. We bottle pop it. You cock block it. I told the girl you're right. Excuse me. This is a fuck. Say you're getting money, man. This song was so big. Your girl is persistent. Now he's got like dyed blonde hair and stuff. He ain't no. I keep the earth right down. I watch when the flow on him. I didn't even know he was still around.
Starting point is 02:32:36 And I keep a bad bitch around. Big bitch. On her yellow, white, red, brown. He ain't no. And my Chevy sit on 24. Blast look like flapjack. He ain't nothing. Seriously. You ain't nothing.
Starting point is 02:32:55 I can eyeball perp. All right, I'm done. I'm done. That was it. Craig Carton? Does he think he could have got away with that? Apparently. So what was he doing?
Starting point is 02:33:12 He was just selling fake tickets to people? I think so, yeah. 45 years in jail for selling fake tickets to people? That's a long time. Bro, that's forever. That's the rest of his life. 45 years is the rest of his life. Well, let's say good time, right? There was two days
Starting point is 02:33:29 for one good day or whatever. So each day counts as two, so it's 22 and a half years. He's what? He's going to be 68 when he gets out? For fake tickets? For fake tickets. I think I read somewhere that they said they expect him to serve five to ten years of it.
Starting point is 02:33:45 Oh, still. Yeah. Still. Right. How does he think he's getting away with that, though? That's my big thing. How do these people think they're going to get away with this shit that they do? And what made it such a big deal that it was 45 years?
Starting point is 02:33:59 I guess it was $4 million worth of tickets. It was a Ponzi scheme. So Ponzi schemes are you get people's money and then you return other people's money but while collecting other people's money. The Ponzi scheme, I don't know how you do it with tickets. I don't know how you do it with tickets. I have no idea how you do it.
Starting point is 02:34:14 But a Ponzi scheme with money is you are a financial advisor and I come up to you, Evan Fox, and I go, I will guarantee you 20% return on your investment one year from now. You're like, that sounds good. You give me a million dollars. So what do I owe you? I owe you $% return on your investment one year from now. You're like, that sounds good. You give me a million dollars. So what do I owe you?
Starting point is 02:34:27 I owe you $200,000 at least back in a year from now. 20%, right? I need that. So I'll pay you out 20% for the next five years of your money. But six years, so we get your money back plus 20% in a six-year thing. So you get an extra $200,000 in six years, right? So then I have a million dollars from you. I know I'm paying you $200,000 at the end of this year.
Starting point is 02:34:47 So what do I actually have? I have $800,000 from you. Oh, right, right, right. Okay, so now I have $800,000 from you. So then I go to Ty. I go, Ty, I'll give you 20% back on your money. For the next six years, you'll end up making 20%. He gives me a million dollars.
Starting point is 02:35:03 I'm going to give him $ him 200 000 at the end of the year this what do i have i have 800 000 yep so now i have 1.6 million dollars to fuck around with and you both have the 20 return then i have to go to another person so you just have to keep adding people so you have to keep adding that's the only way it works is if you keep adding people it's a shell game yep you just move the shell until you run out of shells then that's when people get fucked over. Then that's when it all comes crashing down. That's why you see Ponzi schemes are up for like 200 million.
Starting point is 02:35:30 Because the only way you can continue to do is if you keep going. Because you've got to keep collecting other people's money. You're robbing Peter to pay Paul. And then you're doing that again with Paul and with Peter. With Peter, with Paul. You're doing that. So I don't know how you would do it with tickets. I don't know how that applies to tickets.
Starting point is 02:35:45 I was approached to be a part of a Ponzi scheme house selling thing where this one guy would buy and sell the same houses to numerous investors. He would just have to get a new. So he would tell me, he actually took me to a house to look at. He was like, we can buy this house right now, $115,000. I promise in one month we can sell it for 125 000 i won't do any of the signing fees we'll just make a quick 10 grand
Starting point is 02:36:11 you give me 20 30 whatever boom boom boom and i was like that sounds like a genius idea right so then i was listening to a conversation that was happening and the the closing company and the the closing company mentioned that they had sold that house to him like a month before that so whoever he made the same deal with to me so that house was 115 000 will sell for 125 he said that to somebody else will sell it for 105 we'll sell it for 115 in a month from now does that make sense so he was just whoever was the next one was going to buy for 125 for that house and i would have got the 10 000 from that and then he was just, whoever was the next one was going to buy it for $125,000 for that house. And I would have got the $10,000 from that. And then he was going to move me to another house and then to another house and then to another house. And then at the end of the day, somebody misses out.
Starting point is 02:36:52 So at the end, somebody is out. And then that person is the person that causes the problem. That's what causes the investigation. It's all over. That happens all the time. What's the end game, though? They just keep collecting. The end game is you just have to have fishes that keep coming.
Starting point is 02:37:05 You have to, yeah. You have to keep collecting. You have to keep, like the financial advisors that do it with just money, they have to keep acquiring clients. They have to keep, like you have to at a rapid rate because you're owing everybody money. Because your numbers actually have to be pretty good because you have to pay back everybody the percentages that you've taught. Right.
Starting point is 02:37:22 Yep. 15%, 20%. And then the rest of it, you just enjoy with your life. And it's just like keeping up with paying everybody the 15% debt you've told them, 15%, 20%, and then the rest of it you just enjoy with your life. And it's just like keeping up with paying everybody the 15% that they want. Yeah, exactly what happened with Bernie Madoff. He had like $1.6 billion in a Ponzi scheme, and then eventually people started coming back and like, hey, I gave you a lot of money. I want it back.
Starting point is 02:37:39 He's like, it doesn't exist. Yeah, you can't find it because they weren't able to acquire new clients. But if you can acquire new big money people, you can keep it going forever. Tim Durham is the guy here in Indiana. He had to run out for a few hundred mil. It's like Ponzi schemes are everywhere. That guy in Miami who was the- Yeah, Nevin Shapiro.
Starting point is 02:37:55 Yep, he was a big Ponzi scheme guy who was flaunting his money everywhere. So these guys have no intentions to get broken off someday and actually pay the people back. No, no. Their intentions are strictly to collect people's money and move money around. intentions to get like broken off someday and actually pay the people no no no their intentions are strictly to collect people's money and move money around they go from yachts and thoughts though to two hots and a cot though very quickly as soon as that ends it all comes crashing down very quickly their lives are just so extravagant that you see it on greed i see greed the show greed has it all the time it's awesome to watch so I don't know how this guy did it with ticketing.
Starting point is 02:38:26 I don't know how you would Ponzi scheme ticketing. I don't understand that. Maybe buying tickets. I'll be able to sell these tickets for this price. I don't know how you would do it. I don't know how it's a Ponzi scheme. If it's fake tickets, it's fake tickets. But I always thought a Ponzi scheme was moving money from one place to another.
Starting point is 02:38:41 I always thought, too, he's such a public figure in New York. If you listen to the radio, you know who he is. So it was going to come crashing down eventually. I don't understand it. I don't fully understand it. The financial advisors, I can see where they...
Starting point is 02:38:58 Because financial advisors, at the end of the day, they love money. That's why they're around money, right? Yeah. So you can see where they would be like, oh, this is an easy way to collect. Like in the situation with you two,
Starting point is 02:39:08 that's $1.6 million that I'm getting. And if I get one more person, I'll be able to pay you guys out for the next three to four years without even having to worry about it. And I just got this asinine amount of cash just right in my pocket. It'd be very, very difficult
Starting point is 02:39:21 to be a straight and narrow financial advisor whenever you're talking about those millions and millions of dollars, I think. Now think now granted that's what they're paid to do that's their job but you could see how ponzi schemes get started because once it gets started you can't stop literally like that literally once it starts you can't stop yeah it is it is something you commit to a life and if you continue to make it move for years and years decades some people do it for decades and they never get caught until one shell game is missing one shell is missing then you're fucked it's 45 years well i think it works too because don't have to start like they'll they're only going after big fish so
Starting point is 02:39:55 it's like they're like hey it's going to take some time for you to see this return on investment they're like okay well that that's fine well have patience with your money too but bernie madoff i think was going after like middle class families too. Oh yeah, big time. He was scrounging everybody. Taking people's nest eggs and stuff like that. Everybody's money. He got in where he started to have to collect middle class people money.
Starting point is 02:40:15 You get a big suit and you're like, I invest billions of dollars. Just take advantage of Tim and Sally McAfee. My parents finally get some money somehow. And this Bernie Madoff guy comes in. He's wearing a suit. He's like, I invest McAfee. My parents finally get some money somehow and this Bernie Madoff guy comes in. He's wearing a suit. He's like, I invest billions of dollars. I return 15% every single year on the cash. I've done it for the last 25 years.
Starting point is 02:40:33 You can count it. Then they just hand over all their money and that shit's gone. It's a fucking wild way to live. They made a movie about him on HBO. It was incredibly interesting. It was awesome. De Niro played him.
Starting point is 02:40:43 It was great. This Craig Carton guy is probably going to be a movie I assume you would think I mean that's a wild story wild story 45 years in fucking jail how much money is he making being on WFAN that has to be a pretty good paycheck
Starting point is 02:40:57 probably a decent chunk yeah I mean it was him and Boomer Esiason they were like the top show on you know when Francesa was gone that's what everyone was listening to him and Diggs have the same degenerate we need to keep our eye we need to keep our eye on digs it seems like he's a losing gambler that's where this money comes from gambling debts will get you that'll get people gambling debts get people you know that's where i mean there was a kid in my high school everybody's heard the story yeah yeah he thought he was going into a porn turns out it was only a guy there they told him they pay him double he had a gambling debt took That's where, I mean, there was a kid in my high school. Everybody's heard the story. Yeah, yeah. He thought he was going into a porn.
Starting point is 02:41:26 Turns out it was only a guy there. They told him they pay him double. He had a gambling debt, took the cash, sucked the guy's dick on film. Got out of his gambling debt, though. Got out of his gambling debt. And then that just hit the ground running. It's like, people with these gambling debts are insane. Now, on the alternative, whenever you gamble with my bookie and you bankrupt them, it's like, okay, are they sucking dick whenever you gamble with my bookie and you bankrupt them, it's
Starting point is 02:41:45 like, okay, are they sucking dick to pay me? Could be. They need to. Or a Ponzi scheme. Or they might be robbing some other book to pay Pat, because I am on a heater right now. I am in a good spot. Speaking of today at noon, we'll say it's at noon. Get your bet in by 11.55.
Starting point is 02:42:02 I am bowling. Can't wait. Can't wait. Get your bet in by 1155. I am bowling. Can't wait. Can't wait. Get your bets in. You've said before, either it's a 160 or it's a 60. It's one or the other. I have zero consistency in bowling. I could roll a 50. Yeah. I could roll a 180 though. It's all about the oil patterns, obviously. You got to have your ball on your wrist glove. Exactly. I watch PBA. I mean, we all watch PBA. But yeah, I could be a gutter ball machine,
Starting point is 02:42:31 or I could throw up seven X's straight if we have to. It's literally a complete guessing game. Today at noon, get your bets in mybookie.ag. There's a bunch of bets there. And there's a gambling on Diggs' drinking ability. Diggs is not known for a chugger, by the way. There's a bottle of beer chug over or under 14 and a half seconds. That seems like an eternity.
Starting point is 02:42:50 It's a long time. But Diggs is not a chugger. I never see Diggs drink beer either. He's always drinking vodka water, vodka Sprite. Mixies. Yeah, he's always on the mixies. Always on the beta mixies. I'll be excited to see what he has to come up with.
Starting point is 02:43:06 I think he'll get the under there. Just because he'll... A beer on the shirt will be beer in the mouth, is what he'll say. There'll be a lot... I bet you there'll be a lot of discrepancy on that. It's a big pride thing, too. My bookie might have to pay people back for bets because Diggs just dumps it all over himself.
Starting point is 02:43:18 You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. I think Diggs will just... A lot of pressure on the moment. A lot of pressure. Just trying to send it back. So do we do that before the bowling or after the bowling? Maybe it kicks off the bowling.
Starting point is 02:43:27 Okay, here's the prop bet of the day. Diggs' thing, and then we go right into the bowling. Yep. I'm rolling a full game. Ten of them. Ten frames. Ten frames. Ten frames.
Starting point is 02:43:37 Will I get a double? That's two strikes. Okay. That's a bet. Will I get over 130 is a bet. Will I get over 100 is the main bet, though. I think we're pretty healthy over over 100 i think so too i think we'll be pretty healthy over 100 it's 120 though that 115 to 120 is a huge that's a huge jump for us amateur bowlers what i like is that you get 10 in a row
Starting point is 02:43:59 you don't have to wait for your group so i think you'll you'll find a rhythm okay yeah i've never bowled that way really i've never bowled you where you get to throw 10 in a row by yourself so when you go with like your group of friends everybody is in a strict order yeah we take turns you you live by the authority of bowling that's what you never throw for a friend that's that's how the thing works evan and then ty would be up and then pat would be up you are just a you you would just do whatever anybody tells you to do i follow the rules unbelievable yeah so you've never rolled for your friend i have you've never rolled like your friends go to the bathroom and you don't just roll for all absolutely but when you got money on the line then sounds like you're backpedaling right now no that's just how it
Starting point is 02:44:42 goes now i don't know you you're saying you've thrown 10 in a row I assume at some point in my life Like I had no patience for the people That were going to the bathroom And you roll for Or my group of friends would quit Very often I mean it would be like frame 5
Starting point is 02:44:58 They're like we're here for the beer I'm like I'll roll for you But yeah I'm assuming that happened I guess I just follow the rules That's why you're having fucks Mmhmm People would say that Michigan State does not follow the rules
Starting point is 02:45:10 They just have a golden rule That they chose not to follow For a long long time No Wow I think Go green Go white
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Starting point is 02:48:48 64% they're paying? I don't even think we'll lose money, by the way. Probably. We will lose, which is good. I would like to give away the whole company. Our CFO, Phil, hates it. Yeah, he hates it. Phil hates it.
Starting point is 02:49:00 It's a small business. We're a small business. We got to make money. That's what Phil thinks. But for me, let's just have a good time here. Let's move the merch. Make everyone everyone happy i will let you know this that this small business thing has become very interesting because phil best friends since kindergarten to cfo he retired from being a cpa to do this full-time he's got three kids and a wife he very much wants our company to make money i very much just want to give it away so this is going to be an interesting relationship as we see this build. And I can't wait to give you 20% off 20%. So you're only paying
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