The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 021 - From Offensive Line To Tony Robbins

Episode Date: November 13, 2018

On today's show, Pat sits down with the guys for a couple of conversations covering everything going on in the world. Digs and Zito join the show to discuss Zito's weekend in Chicago and his blogging ...efforts, and Digs gives his takeaways from week 10 of the NFL, including a couple of awards he'd like to give out, and he and Pat discuss their rough weekends gambling. Todd and Connor pop in later for an incredible conversation covering whether or not Duke is going to get beat this year, what happened in the Patriots/Titans game, and the guys do a deep dive into Tony Robbins after Pat spent the weekend watching a documentary detailing one of his seminars. Also calling into the show is injured Center for the Arizona Cardinals and former Penn State standout, AQ Shipley. They chat about Quenton Nelson's block, AQ's time at Penn State, Zach Smith and Tom Herman's beef, and the feeling inside Arizona's locker room (32:23-52:50). It's a good one. Come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:24 I sat in this studio for three hours and had the boys come and go as they please. We had conversations about everything from the NFL to me getting slaughtered by my bookie this weekend with my gambling situations to A.Q. Shipley talking about big Quentin Nelson doing the screaming pool that you had to have seen a video of from this past weekend. We talk about college basketball we talk about everything even the psu jerry sandusky scandal go ahead and stick around for that one you're going to enjoy it we appreciate you so much for foxing with us tell your friends if you've enjoyed this show and right now if you hear this go ahead and tweet at ty schmidt at evan foxy and at myself and tell us exactly what you are
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Starting point is 00:04:38 Been joined by Diggs and Zito. Ty, Foxy, and Gator are in the back. Zito, you look fantastic. Thank you very much. New shirt. I like that shirt a lot. Yeah, I think it was on the mannequin. Were they at the Jordan section?
Starting point is 00:04:53 I don't know if it was. What do you mean? What are you saying, Diggs? I like it a lot. He's wearing a t-shirt hoodie, basically. That's a Jordan t-shirt hoodie. And on the back, it just says a bunch of things about the Jordan brand, basically. I don't like the placement of the Jordan on the front.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Well, it's definitely like a high-fashion hipster shirt that you wouldn't expect Zito to wear, but I think you look good. $15.99. You went home this weekend? Yep. How was it? I went home for my sister's baby shower.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Oh, that's beautiful. It was six hours long. It's not beautiful. Do dudes go to baby showers? If you're if your family yeah i think it was your sister what's that i think it's if it's your sister you go really because i don't think i've ever been to a baby shower now i think about it i don't get invited to a lot of things so if you think about too so i was like sitting there for like six hours and i like was starting to think and i was like we're here to celebrate my sister having sex.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Successfully. Successfully, yeah. Yeah. All the other times that she's been fucking around, it was all practice for this particular one time where the old baby ended up in there.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And that was weird for you? It was really weird to think about that, yeah. At what hour did you start thinking that? Four and a half. Four and a half hours in? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I was literally, it was just after the lunch came in and I was four and a half hours did yeah i was literally it was just after like the lunch came in and i was like eating and i was looking around it was like all ladies there i'm like these guys are just celebrating my sister having sex that was fucked i was so mad did you tell her that no i could have never told her that so you just let it out here yeah this is like the spot i like let go therapy. I saw a picture of your mom on Instagram. She does not deserve any of the things that pink-eyed Nick says to her. That's why he has pink eye. That is.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It's karma. Yeah, absolutely. The Bears look like they're a good football team, too. Really good. Khalil Mack came back. That's got to be exciting, huh? The guy took four weeks off, got a couple sacks real quick. They're really good on defense.
Starting point is 00:06:41 They are. I think that was the best case scenario. Just let them rust for almost three weeks. I don't trust them on offense, but they're really good on defense. Yeah are. I think that was the best case scenario. Just let them rest for almost like three weeks. I don't trust them on offense, but they're really good on defense. Yeah, it was a huge football weekend. I got slaughtered. I also got slaughtered. This is my biggest loss I've ever had in my history of sports gambling. Really?
Starting point is 00:06:57 I was on a heater, too. I really thought my brain could do no wrong. You know what got me, though? Kansas City Chiefs not having a money line. They just didn't have one because the spread was too high? Yeah, there was no money line though? Kansas City Chiefs not having a money line. They just didn't have one because the spread was too high? Yeah, there was no money line for the Kansas City Chiefs. Normally, that's where I start my gambling day on my bookie. I go right to the Kansas City Chiefs money line no matter what it is.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I'm like, boom, there's a start. There's a W to start. And then it kind of just gets me in a good rhythm. Instead, I had to rely on player props that I thought were locks. That I thought were locks. And no, no, no. I thought the Arizona Cardinals were going to double up Tyree Kill, get Patrick
Starting point is 00:07:28 Peterson and Antoine Bethea maybe on a cover. They chose not to do that, so Tyree Kill took all the receptions from Travis Kelsey, who I thought was going to get a bunch. I bet on Patrick Mahomes. I won those, but I was in a bad, bad, bad... The Patriots money line, too, got me.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Everybody told me, when you're betting on money lines Pat, it's going to get you. It's going to get you Pat when you bet on these money lines. All you need is one underdog to win and it's over. It fucking got me. It came in the form of the Tennessee Titans at a minus like 500 I think. Minus two, maybe
Starting point is 00:07:59 230. It was huge. I lost a lot of money on that. Then I tried to make up for it sunday night football no big deal philadelphia eagles will definitely handle business against the dallas cowboys they'll definitely score more than 27 and a half as well at home prime time football carson wentz is back jack golden dates in the locker room here we go nope what the fuck happened we're 10 weeks in and the teams that will fuck you are those middle-of-the-road teams. You don't know if they're good or they're bad, and they'll upset people.
Starting point is 00:08:30 They'll lose to teams they shouldn't. It's a recipe for disaster. I got also cleaned out. I mean, I got – Diggs, you put a tweet out that was hysterical. You said Sunday morning you had to check your credit. Oh, the bank account? Yeah, you said you have to check your bank account like you're checking your grades or something.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Yeah, I like that a lot. It's never going to be good, but it's something you kind of have to know to see how you did. Monday morning, I had to go check to see how I did. And I was like, oh, my God, I got decapitated in the sports gambling business. The Browns fucking blown out. The Falcons destroyed me. I took Browns plus five and a half.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I did. I don't like the Falcons much. I saw Matt Ryan throw a Hail Mary against us, and he was 25 yards short. Now, ever since then, I just have no faith in the guy. I don't know why. Well, I didn't know that fucking Baker woke up feeling dangerous. I had no idea. If I knew that.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Buy the merch. It might not be for sale anymore. We might have got cease and desist. But yesterday, we had an incredible merch. Really, really good shirt. Really, really good shirt. Really, really good shirt and a good mug. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Can we just call it limited time edition? Limited time? Or limited edition sweater. Until it gets cease and desist. Yeah, so don't ever say it's cease and desist. You know, I get a lot of people telling me like, did you give Baker your cut? His cut.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And I'm like... Oh, motherfucker. Yeah, but I kind of feel as if we should send him something. He's fine. We should send him a sweater. Yeah, send him a sweatshirt. He did just sign for like $17 million or something. Yeah, yeah I kind of feel as if we should send him something. He's fine. We should send him a sweater. Yeah, send him a sweatshirt. He did just sign for like $17 million or something. Yeah, he's fine. He's in a really good
Starting point is 00:09:50 spot. I appreciate it. But he did give us some real ammo there with that incredible quote. I feel like he knew it too. As soon as he said it, he got that little smirk. Yeah, he knew. And it's an incredible quote too. I woke up feeling dangerous bro. That's a wrestling line. The media with their fucking laughs.
Starting point is 00:10:05 What does that mean? I hate local fucking media. Antonio Brown does too, bro. He came into the stadium flipping them off and then ran over some security. Yeah, well, Pittsburgh has the worst local media. And Antonio Brown was just excited to go to the game. That's all he was. He just wanted to get in there.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah. Nope. What are your takeaways from the NFL Week 10, Diggs? My takeaways is that Aaron Donald is an absolute animal, and he's the least likely person that I would want to meet in the back alley. Out of all the humans on Earth? Out of all the humans on NFL Earth. Aaron Donald more so than anybody else.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yes. It used to be James Harrison, but he's retired. That video of Aaron Donald putting his helmet on with no shoulder pads, going to war with old cuzzy Britt, I believe, from Seattle Seahawks, number 68. He dapped up a guy, too. He dapped up the Seahawks. D-line was like, what's up, cuz? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Yeah, I'll talk to you in a second. I got to go beat up one of your old guys. And then walked right into the middle of him and grabbed a guy by his face mask. We're not talking about a little human. We're talking about like a 6'7 NFL offensive lineman. Grabs him by his face mask, and I don't know what he told him, but I assume it rhymed with go luck yourself. He didn't have any pads on him,
Starting point is 00:11:17 and he just had like his Under Armour type thing on, and you could just see every muscle. He doesn't have any fat on him. He's definitely, I don't know, 3% body fat as a defensive lineman. He's so good at football too, that guy. He's unbelievable. That's why – him and Sue, that's why I feel like that team's tough to beat because if they want to turn it on.
Starting point is 00:11:35 That's why I was so confused by the Saints. Now, granted, the Saints, though, they might – the conspiracy. The Saints are really fucking good. They look unbelievable. But they just signed Brandon Marshall, so we'll see if Drew Brees' voodoo is stronger than the Brandon Marshall curse. Do you think it is or no? I think they're going to get in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I think they're going to have to lose out to not get in the playoffs. Brandon Marshall, 11 years in the NFL, right? And never made an appearance in the playoffs? Correct. Pro bowler, too. Oh, yeah. He's a top five receiver For a long long time They signed Des
Starting point is 00:12:06 Des tears his Achilles That's terrible by the way Yeah all the Saints Were treating him like he died I think they want him To come back next year I think they want him Sean Payton did say
Starting point is 00:12:13 He wants him back Yeah they want him To stay on the Saints again For next season They're like This is all a recruiting ploy By the Saints Like yeah we want him
Starting point is 00:12:20 Back on our team That Achilles comes out Of nowhere by the way That really is Sniper on the roof I think it's probably The worst injury You could possibly have Is that like six months too It just That really is sniper on the roof. I think it's probably the worst injury you could possibly have. Is that like six months, too?
Starting point is 00:12:27 It just feels – no, it's longer than six months. I think it's longer than that. It's like nine months. Closer to a year. It's a long-ish season. It comes out of nowhere, too. I watch Vic Ballard. It happened to Vic Ballard in our practice.
Starting point is 00:12:36 That's when it rolls up, right? It happened to a receiver in the Packers-Dolphins game, too. He was just like real quick, and you could tell right away he was done for. It's a real sniper on the roof. I had one season where my left Achilles was hurting me bad yeah every time i planted it hurt and i would like have the conversation with the athletic trainers i'm like is this thing just gonna fucking pop out of nowhere is this gonna happen they're like no we think you just have like a little bruising around it i'm like oh okay that makes me feel real good every time i would go run for a kickoff i'm like well this could be it right here on the plant and i'd kick i'm like thank god and i took like two months off
Starting point is 00:13:09 and i started doing all these exercises trying to strengthen up my achilles there's no strengthening your achilles it either happens or it doesn't that's why people saying like does bry comes in out of shape it's like that the achilles is hard to keep in shape it's not something you do you know it's a shame also from the the Ram Seahawks game, I don't understand why everyone's giving balls to fucking Floyd Mayweather because he looks like a kid. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Maybe give it to the fifth grader. The fifth grader who's like 10 rows to the left who can maybe, I don't know, read or something like that. Did you guys... Wow, Diggs taking a shot at his literacy. What's up, Foxy? Did you guys see at the end when they won the game, they clinched the game, they showed McVay in a slow-mo like, yeah, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:13:50 It was so awesome. He was real excited to get that win. Real excited. He's the man. I'm a big Sean McVay fan. I like the Rams. Also, man, McVay, Phillips, Goff, I believe, they all got kicked out of their houses in LA.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Dude, that shit's insane. Scary, man. Crazy. Now, in the Bible, they say the world's going to burn down. Yeah, yeah. Yep, pretty much. It's a scary thought because Gerard Butler took a picture of his house. That was wild.
Starting point is 00:14:14 It's just completely burnt down. You don't think about it until you put a face to the, right. Whenever they're burning Napa Valley, I'm not a huge wino. Yeah, yeah. So I don't follow a lot of people maybe that are up in napa valley where those fires happen but i've you do see the people that are in la you see them all over your timeline everywhere and whenever they're just like whitney cummings comedian sam's a big fan of hers she was walking around malibu like trying to get animals
Starting point is 00:14:43 out like free animals and there was just houses and barns just burnt to the crisp. We're talking $20 million houses just burnt down to nothing. Is there no warning at all? It just happens? No. I don't think you can stop it either. I think it's so fast. They were saying it jumped the highway pretty much.
Starting point is 00:14:59 For some reason, 60 something 60 in my head. 60 something a minute or a second. 60 yards a second maybe. I was seeing 800 yards a minute. I thought I saw. Yeah, something like that. I don't know what that means. The fire is just moving.
Starting point is 00:15:15 It all depends on the wind. Yeah, and apparently there was a town to Paradise, California. The whole town is gone now. The entire town burned down. That's fucking insane, and there's nothing you can do about it. Nothing. Wade Phillips' house is burnt down, let's assume. I don't know that. But to be able
Starting point is 00:15:32 to handle that, especially McVay, who's like a 32-year-old head coach, having that type of handle, plus a community presence, right? The LA Rams are LA's team. So you are expected to be a representative of the city whenever that thing happens and i think they handled it very well very much t's and p's to los angeles we're
Starting point is 00:15:50 going out there this week fox and i are flying out there this week and it's like i i wish i could go and help somehow i have no idea how i help i don't think i don't think i'm the right guy to go in there and help but it's like such a sad situation that you watch from afar you're like there's nothing we can do here nothing to let it take its and help, but it's such a sad situation that you watch from afar. You're like, there's nothing we can do here. Nothing. You just have to let it take its course, pretty much. Nothing. It's like watching Andy Dalton try to take on Drew Brees.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Hey, the Saints were unbelievable. So good. I thought they were going to have a let-up game. That one didn't work either. Thomas Morstead, zero punts. Zero punts. Did you ever do that? No.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I never did. Really? Everybody told me I was going to, too, because Hunter Smith had like three straight games whenever he was punting for the Colts. When I got there, Peyton's offense slowed down a little bit. I don't know what it was. I think they wanted to showcase me, which is very nice of them.
Starting point is 00:16:35 But I asked Thomas Morse, and I sent him a quote. I said, any quotes about the no-punt game in Cincy? He goes, nothing that will make a headline. Just love this team. Been fun this season and last season. What fucking boring quote i love thomas he's probably the best pure punter in the game but he had a lot he yeah he had to get him off of six two laces were at six he flipped those around uh uh nine yep nine o'clock which was a good hold i was waiting for the whole uh the announcers commentators to say something about that.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Did they? Well, they were making fun of him for not punting, and then he went out there and held, and a ball was snapped right at 6, and he moved it to 9. I thought they were going to say, well, he has to get the laces all the way to 4. It's like, no, no, no. Actually, just getting it off the foot is a successful story there.
Starting point is 00:17:18 That's the long snapper's job. The long snapper's job is not to snap the laces straight back. I think I'm going to start telling people, I hope you kick the laces, by the way. I think it's going to be like a shot I'm going to start taking to people. You know, somebody says something like Sam Roberts at the NXT TakeOver. He says something, I'm going to be like, I hope you kick the laces. How about the Browns putter, that commercial? Oh, Electric City, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:17:40 If I ever go to Cleveland, I'm using solar power home. Whatever it's called, it's incredible. The Cleveland Browns look like a good football team. Got the whole week off from old head coach Greg Williams. That's awesome. Good for them. Chiefs, Tyreek Hill going on the stands to operate the camera. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I thought it was genius. If it's that genius, I don't think you should get a penalty. No, the refs should have respect for that. It's genius. The refs are allowed to make judgment calls on whether or not somebody lowers their head. The refs are allowed to make judgment calls on whether or not somebody lowers their head the refs are allowed to make judgment calls on everything how can the refs don't make a judgment call in a celebration be like yeah like he's going into the stands to film his players his teammates celebrating his touchdown genius genius you could literally add that to his resume now yes camera operator in the nfl yeah cbs NFL camera operator. That got on the air, by the way, more than probably anybody else's camera footage.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yes. Also, shout out Tyler Allen for the brand guy right in the middle of the show. Was that who it was? Yeah. It was a perfect shot. Perfect. Perfect. We're sending him a bunch of merch.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Yep. He was fired up. Yeah. We're sending him a bunch. He sent me a picture, I guess, before the game. Yeah. Yep. That he was going in.
Starting point is 00:18:44 He's not even a Kansas City fan. He had the red shirt. That's what it was like in that post. Really? His wife is the fan. Who's he a fan of? I don't know. I actually don't.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I did see his address wasn't anywhere near Kansas City, so I was confused as well. He should be a Kansas City Chiefs fan after this. He's in the middle of one of the best celebrations in Kansas City Chiefs history. That was absolutely fucking awesome. I still don't know what state Kansas City's in. I still don't know. Is that Missouri? Missouri. Missouri. We looked it up. So they're the Kansas City, Missouri Chiefs history. That was absolutely fucking awesome. I still don't know what state Kansas City's in. I still don't know. Is that Missouri? Missouri.
Starting point is 00:19:06 We looked it up. So they're the Kansas City, Missouri Chiefs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thought so. Okay. Yeah, yeah. When he first did that and swung it, I thought he was putting the viewfinder
Starting point is 00:19:14 on the For the Brand shirt. I was like, oh shit, we're about to get it on national TV. Tyreek! Tyreek! Zoom in, cuz. Zoom in! I liked it a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Tyreek Hill, they're finding ways to just give him the ball. It's insane. They did more end-arounds and more. Oh, yeah. He runs backwards. It's like a kid on a playground with other children that are younger than him. That is what Tyreek Hill looks like.
Starting point is 00:19:40 He runs backwards and then around and then just does it. He had a six-yard game that he might have ran 400 yards. The one in the right flat? Yeah, where he was just running. He is the most explosive player to ever come into the NFL. I've been saying it for literally years. The most explosive player to ever come into the NFL. Like a light switch can just change the game anytime you want.
Starting point is 00:20:02 He gets in a phone booth. He can get out of it. He is insanely talented. And he brought the For the brand shirt right on national yeah yeah he's pretty good yeah the last game i want to talk about was the uh the colts game and the reason why let's go he brought a fucking animal bro i'm happy for him oh are you yeah i'm very happy for him didn't work in detroit glad it's working because i was when we drafted him everyone hated the pick. And I was one of the guys, a Lions fan, that's very positive.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I'm like, guys, give him some time. A Lions fan that's very positive. What a paradox. There are none out there. And now he's doing so well. He's crushing it. He's crushing it. What, three touchdowns this weekend?
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yeah. Luck's thrown three touchdowns in the last fucking five games. He looks like he's unstoppable right now. And he hasn't been sacked in the last three games, which is wild. Quentin Nelson, big Q. This is why I brought Zito in here. Okay, good. So Zito, this is why Zito's the absolute best. He writes a blog all about linemen not getting enough credit.
Starting point is 00:20:57 We're blogging now, by the way. We're bloggers. Okay, and this is Zito's blog. Disclaimer, I'm not made for the blogging world. I was sitting in my sister's baby shower watching football highlights on my phone. By the way, which we learned is just a celebration of his sister getting porked. Correct. Yep.
Starting point is 00:21:11 And was thinking you never see any recognition for a lineman. The news outlets always talk about the glorified positions, but not the players who protect all of the star players in quotations. This is like reading somebody's essay, by the way. I'm putting my foot down and we'll start weekly awards for the best lineman of the week. From Zito. That's the best I can do to put the Gridiron Trench crew on the pedestal where they belong.
Starting point is 00:21:36 First nominee, Quentin Austin. How'd you get his name wrong? Spell check. Fucking Quentin Austin. Nelson goes to Austin? Something's wrong with my math. The most Zito thing of all time is he's going to highlight the best linemen of the week because they're not represented enough. And he spells it, not even spells it, Quentin Austin is his name, not Quentin Nelson.
Starting point is 00:22:03 That's incredible. Someone said Austin Powers or something. It was in my head. Oh yeah, yeah, of course. The most Zito thing of all time. I fucking pissed myself. I'm going to bring attention to these guys who get disrespected on daily. I'm going to call this guy by the wrong fucking name.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Unbelievable. Not even close. I did that with a For the Ram video yesterday. Big Q does not deserve that, by the way. No, he doesn't. By the way, we do not want to offend that guy. Anybody that's screaming around like a lunatic. What the fuck are you screaming for? We got a conversation with AQ Shipley here in a couple of minutes. Going to ask if that's a normal thing for him to be screaming like that.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Coming around, pulling around and just killing that poor guy. Church had no idea. I put out a tweet. Poor Barry. We played against him. Barry Church from Penn Hills. Yeah. I feel bad for him. I feel bad for all of them, by the way. I put the tweet out. We played against them. Barry Church from Penn Hills. Yeah. I feel bad for him.
Starting point is 00:22:45 I feel bad for all of them, by the way. I put the tweet out that was a real thing. Like, I have no idea how these guys do this for a fucking living. I have no clue how they do it for a living. I made that one tackle on Sunday Night Football against Schoenhauer. I was sore for four days after that. Four fucking days. One tackle.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Four. Couldn't even get up. These guys just get into car crash after car crash after car crash after car crash and then they just got to get up and do it again and get up and do it again and you get paid grossly for it which is awesome but i don't know how their bodies handle it i have no idea i said earlier i think barry i think he was in your class so he's probably been in the league probably eight nine years like that may that hit that hit like that may make you think in the offseason, like, hey, man, maybe this is enough for me.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Maybe I'm done. Especially with the internet now. The internet is showcasing that everywhere. That thing has been seen by millions and millions of people. I don't know if this might be the thing that Barry Church calls a quits on. I would. I would. Strictly because that could happen again a quits on, I would. I would. Strictly because that could happen again.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Seriously, there's no reason to keep playing. That could happen again. I always thought about that when I was jogging down the field, like covering kicks. I was like, at any given moment, one of these dudes who were a much better athlete and much more angry than me could just turn around and say they want to block me. Yes. And at any given moment, they could do that and just fucking ruin everything I got going in my life. My brain, my face, my legs, my body, my soul.
Starting point is 00:24:07 In your head, though, you can't retire after that, though, because it'd be like, oh, Quinn Nelson knocks him out of the league. No, no, no. He's not going to retire tomorrow. I'm just saying during the offseason. After the season commences? Yeah. Recuperates? Nope. That's not it.
Starting point is 00:24:23 That's not it. New blogger. I always thought commences was the start. Yeah, it's like the start. Yeah, so we're both wrong. After this season. Comes to an end. Yeah, but a nicer way to say it, a more educated way to say it. After this season.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Concludes. There it is. The sun sets. What about like graduation commencements, though? That's the end. Nah, but it's the beginning of it. I don't know. Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Okay, makes sense now. Anyways, whenever this season ends though, Jacksonville Jaguars have grossly underperformed too. So let's assume morale's going to be low. Marone might be gone. That team might be in a full rebuild for a guy that's in his 10th, 11th year. He's also going to have his friends be like, yo, also remember when.
Starting point is 00:25:12 It could be a real. I thought you were saying like Vontae Davis, just call it quits. I know. I've been thinking about it, but that big motherfucker just ran me. Did you hear him screaming? He was screaming the whole time. He came around here and said, you want me to play what?
Starting point is 00:25:29 Second half? No, no, no, no. I was thinking about never again. He's been training hard, Vontae. Really? His Instagram. I follow him on Instagram. His IG story is him training and eating healthy.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I'm like, what are you doing? What are we doing? If you quit on one team, are you allowed to come back on another that season? I don't know. Because I assume they cut him or and eating healthy. I'm like, what are you doing? What are we doing? If you quit on one team, are you allowed to come back on another that season? I don't know. Because I assume they cut him away from you. Yeah, I guess they release him. They release him?
Starting point is 00:25:51 What a wild play if everybody starts doing this. Everybody starts doing it. Brandon Marshall doesn't like the first quarter with the Saints. Quits, comes back, maybe fourth quarter, comes back. You guys need me again? Let's renegotiate. You need me for the fourth quarter? Need a couple of downfield targets?
Starting point is 00:26:04 Here we go. Let's renegotiate. Good for Vontae fourth quarter? You need a couple of downfield targets? Here we go. Let's renegotiate. Good for Vontae. He could start for the Packers right now. Vontae Davis? Yeah. Tomorrow. How'd the Packers do this weekend?
Starting point is 00:26:13 They played the Dolphins. I mean, they beat the shit out of them. Fuck. I took Brock Osweiler plus eight and a half, by the way. Really? Speaking of that, can I give my award? I have no idea why I did that. Just strictly because of this award.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I have no idea why I put any money on the Miami Dome. That's how bad of a weekend I had. I'm telling you, not having a Kansas City Chiefs money line completely, it just... It fucked with you. It did. It ruined me. Well, and you might have been okay.
Starting point is 00:26:36 On their first possession, they got down to the red zone, and then he fumbled the shotgun snap, and that was pretty much the end of it. That's when I said, I see old rocket ships doing his thing in Lambeau whenever he just fumbled the snap. And then at the end of the first half, he just completely airmailed Devontae Parker.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Yeah, it was wide open. Could have got a split on that Eagles game, too, whenever I doubled down on everything. Here's their last play. They scored a touchdown there. Let's assume they go for two. That's 28 points. The over would have hit for the team over and said 27 and a half. Yeah, it's tough. Okay, so this week's Klaus and Tebow, Gabbard, Sanchez, Shaw, Boswell,
Starting point is 00:27:08 O'Leaf, Russell, Dilfer, Bowler, Leiner, Wanky, Harrington, Carr, Couch, Peterman, Award of the Week. Also, RIP Nathan Peterman. He didn't need to be done like that this weekend. Barkley just comes in throwing passes to offensive linemen for touchdowns. Real quick, I take back saying that I think Alabama could beat the Bills.
Starting point is 00:27:29 They could definitely beat the Jets, though. I'm sorry. Go back to your word. I got a lot of heat on the internet, by the way, for that. I had text messages from old teammates. Hey, Pat, let's at least be educated. That's not what this life is about always. Darius Butler told me to write down the top five players on each team
Starting point is 00:27:49 on a piece of paper, and then we'll just start there. And then go ahead and go six to ten and then see how you feel. And I wrote down, I was like, Tua? Judy? Of course, that guy's really good. I don't know who the running back is. He's solid. Okay, let's go to the bills now and i was
Starting point is 00:28:07 done i was like ah you're right okay i'll go fuck myself but the jets i don't know that's they're in a rough spot let's add donald to this award here if he keeps going man yeah he didn't play this week but his account just gets his replacement um account is on the list i forgot that's on me sorry two interceptions. Two interceptions, 35 quarterback rating. Not great. Josh Rosian, two interceptions, 50 quarterback rating. Not great. Brock and Derek Carr are up for the third spot in this award
Starting point is 00:28:33 because Brock didn't have a great game. Derek Carr, this is like the 17th time this year that I've seen him on third or fourth down. Just throw it. Just give up because he doesn't want to get hit. He's the – He's given up, right? They've all given up on Noel Gruden. just throw it not even just just give up because he doesn't want to get hit he's the he's the he's given up right on the right they've all given up on an old gruden but i think i'm gonna go out on
Starting point is 00:28:49 a limb here because sometimes we record this on monday right now this is monday i have a very strong feeling that eli's gonna win the war i'm just gonna give it to eli right now who are we betting on in last night's game no I need to make up some big money. Gun to my head. They have far inferior talent, but I think they're still trying, and I don't think the Giants are. I'm going to go with Nick Mullins and the San Francisco 49ers. Where's it at?
Starting point is 00:29:22 Is it in New York? It's in San Fran. It's in San Fran. You got the boosted juice of them playing for the state of California. True. How about Odell, though, being back in California? That's the issue. He said he wanted out in New York.
Starting point is 00:29:35 He wants back in California. Maybe he wants to put on a show. But to do that, he needs another guy to put on a show. And that would be the guy, the other one, the Maddox. The Giants still have the same offensive line, too. So we're hammering the niners they're covering and the over i do like the over i think it's 45 okay so there we go we're making up for the big weekend everybody gets to hear what we just did we just made a big comeback here the worst weekend of our life has just changed on monday night football because of nick fucking mullins
Starting point is 00:30:05 a guy that i didn't even know existed one week ago i had no idea but now we're rolling the dice this is parlay the fucking niners in the over people are listening this right now goes you're they're saying like you're completely wrong or completely right yeah yeah yeah that's what they're thinking right now live radio minus three and a half san francisco yep we think they're gonna win that oh wait you got it at a half now by that point down to a three for sure that's don't don't let that hook fuck you over and it's 45 for the over under yeah yeah is that not what i said 24 san francisco 49ers over over under 24 all right i think they're going to go over. I think so, too. $1,000 on that. Continue.
Starting point is 00:30:48 All right. Look for a friend of the show, George Kittle. They have a big name. Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm going prop bets, too. I'm going prop bets on him. What's that? What'd you say, you?
Starting point is 00:30:58 Yeah, the McAfee bump on Kittle and the Niners. The whole team comes into play. Yeah, Kittle's really feeling himself right now. Kittle's feeling himself for sure. As long as Saquon and Odell don't go off for some reason. Excuse me? Huh? We don't need that.
Starting point is 00:31:12 No, no, no. George Kittle, total receptions, five and a half, over, under. Over. Yeah. I said Kelsey was going to get six. I think he picked up two. That one's tough. George Kittle, total receiving yards, over, under, 65 and a half.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Over. Over for sure. Over for sure. one's tough. George Kittle, total receiving yards, over under 65 and a half. Over. Over for sure. Over for sure. Let's go. I love this. I love this. Oh, my God. What a fucking terrible week.
Starting point is 00:31:34 This is why gambling sites make a lot of money. Vegas made all their money back this week, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. They knew it, too. They had a ruffle in the week before. They're like, all right, boys'm pretty sure. Yeah, they knew it too. They had a rough one the week before. They're like, all right, boys, now it's time to really tighten it up. That just means people have more money to fucking blow next week. And confidence.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Yep. All right, shout out to the San Francisco 49ers getting us back on track. That's very nice of them. Another NFL week will start on Thursday. Who we got on Thursday? Anybody know? Packers, Seahawks in Seattle. Okay, Seahawks about to just blow.
Starting point is 00:32:05 The replacement ref game. Oh, yeah. Let me get a line on that. We might as well make a pick while we're here. The Packers get their hearts broken damn near every time they play in Seattle, so we'll see. How are the Packers? Pretty good or what? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It's hard to take anything out of yesterday's game. Like, Brock Osweiler fucking sucks. I mean, he's just terrible. Still quarterback in the NFL, by the way. Yeah. Unbelievable. But they had to win that game by like 21 points. If they didn't, then they are ass.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Tweet us. Tell us how we did on our gambling. Tell us why the Packers could possibly be good. And also, send us your opinions. Maybe we'll read them on Thursday's show. Very much appreciate Diggs and Zito coming in here. Ty and Foxy, you're the best, Bailey as well. The conversation continues.
Starting point is 00:32:57 What's going on, guys? Did you see that Quentin Nelson video? Yeah. Did you hear him screaming? Is that normal? Is there a lot of offensive linemen that just run around Did you hear him screaming? Is that normal? Is there a lot of offensive linemen that just run around with CTEs screaming? You know, it's funny. I asked somebody today if I do that when I play.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Do you? And they said no. I don't think it's very normal. I don't think it's normal either. I would be terrified. I think he's pretty good at football, though. He's a really good football player. They're calling him the best guard in the league. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Yeah. I don't know about that. I heard somebody say it. People were saying best guard in the league. He's a top ten pick. They're going to say that for ten years whether he's good or bad. That's what they do for at least four. I smell a little hater. I smell a little hater.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I mean, let's not forget Zach Martin, Marshall Yonda. There's some really good football players at the guard position these days. I forgot about Yonda. That's kind of the end-all, be-all right there. And Zach Martin at 80%, by the way. Chris Collinsworth told me, better than everybody else in the league. Chris Collinsworth told me that. Yeah, he's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And he's tough as nails. I thought that was it last night. He came back in like two drives later. Yeah, it was insane. I would have quit probably. I did, actually. That's what I would have done if I was him. So that is not normal.
Starting point is 00:34:17 There's people saying that that is normal because I think people think of offensive linemen like movie offensive linemen. I don't think they think about real life offensive linemen where there's little little soft little souls inside of each one of you and all you're doing is hand-to-hand combat to feed your family and all you do is try to protect your quarterback for the better of the team and you guys care about others way more than you care about yourself and and you wouldn't yell and scream like that you're actually very smart and
Starting point is 00:34:43 civilized humans. I'd like to know how movie offensive linemen are portrayed. Meathead, idiots, you know it. Meatheads, fucking dummies. We've played with an offensive lineman who was a movie offensive lineman. You and I both. It's just Meathead City, everybody thinks. I think that's what people think. I think I know who you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Who? Youngstown, Ohio. He's a movie offensive lineman. He's a meathead. Mike McGlynn is a full-on movie offensive lineman. He's a hysterical human being. He's a meathead. He's willing to do whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:22 He'll throw his face in front of a train if he had to. He's willing to do whatever. He'll throw his face in front of a train if he had to. He's throwing haymakers every play. Every play. That's what I'm saying. Quentin Nelson running around screaming like that. I think that was a movie offensive line thing, but it was so incredibly
Starting point is 00:35:37 scary to think about Barry Church having to sit there and take it. That was a heck of a collision. Quite a collision. Bad look for Pittsburgh. Bad look for Pittsburgh. Barry Church, East Hills of Pittsburgh. Penn Hills guy.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Yep, Penn Hills guy. Wasn't good. Man, yeah, that was, I mean, trust me, I mean, that's probably the talk of the league right now because everybody was talking about it in our locker room today. Really? Oh, yeah. Everybody was like, man, you see that Quentin Nelson video?
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah. Guy's a lunatic. He really is, though. That was insane to me. Yeah, that was a pretty impressive collision. No doubt about that. NFL, everybody pulls, right? There's a center pull.
Starting point is 00:36:21 There's a guard pull. There's a tackle pull. Everybody pulls, right? Yeah, guards get the best type of pulling because they're the ones usually like if a center pulls our tackle pulls usually we're pulling perimeter um guards get to pull down the line they get to trap ends they get to trap defensive tackles and they get to pull around for middle linebackers so they get they get all the collision pulls guards have to be mobile though they have to be able to run yeah they yeah that's i mean that's 80% of their job.
Starting point is 00:36:47 They're either pulling out, blocking a middle linebacker on an outside play, pulling around, blocking a middle linebacker on a power play, or pulling down the line, kicking out a defensive end on a wrap play, or pulling down the line and kicking out a defensive tackle on a trap play. You said pulling out. You refused to do that. You have a baby. How's that going?
Starting point is 00:37:05 I don't understand that pulling out thing. Go ahead and deliver the seed. Got a beautiful baby girl out of it. Yeah, six-month checkup today. She's doing great. It's awesome. She's almost crawling. It's getting close.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Whoa. What's it going to be? Dada or mama or pat? They say dada usually because that's just like i don't even think they everybody's like oh does she said dad i think that's just like dot dot dot dot dot you know i mean and it that's what i'm gonna say it was definitely dada right yeah you got a stuttering kid yeah i mean you think your daughter gets into Penn State? No way. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Hopefully she's smarter than me. You think? No chance I got in without football, right? No. No, you were a gift. You were a... They gifted the Shipley family an opportunity to potentially earn a degree from Pennsylvania State University. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Yeah, no chance I got in without... No chance I got in very many places without football. What was that guy's name? The guy from Penn State that everybody knows? Jerry. Oh. Sandusky? Did Sandusky recruit you to Penn State or no?
Starting point is 00:38:19 He was gone. You know this story. Come on. Come on. Come on. You know this story. He was gone in 1999. We got recruited when?
Starting point is 00:38:27 I didn't get recruited. I mean, I did kind of, but nobody pulled the trigger because they went with somebody else. 2004. 2005 for me. Oh, yeah. Didn't redshirt. Gone, but still around. Who?
Starting point is 00:38:39 He was still around. Sandusky was still around. He lived in the town. Yeah. Pretty influential person. Did you ever meet Sandusky was still around. He lived in the town. Yeah, pretty influential person. Did you ever meet Sandusky? Yeah. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:38:50 In the locker room? No, in functions that benefited his foundation slash. Yeah. Okay, so let's talk about this from a real perspective. There was nothing anybody who played football at Penn State would have ever known about any of this situation right no coaches too or just the head coach the McQuarrie in Paterno you think any other coaches had any idea they were probably shielded from it no I don't think any coaches knew I honestly don't I mean I think they thought that you know he ran a foundation
Starting point is 00:39:24 in town that was supposedly benefiting underprivileged kids so everybody thought like to be honest that most people that thought of him were like oh my god he's doing so much great for great for the kids right that's why it was such a curveball that's why i was such a curveball because little did people know he was using that as a platform right so at the end of the day yeah when you came in contact with him really hey he's a weirdo. But what football coach isn't? You've been around thousands of weird football coaches. A lot of weird football coaches out there.
Starting point is 00:39:53 It's like, he's just a goofball. Whatever. Okay. Keep it moving. But then that kind of hits you from left field. It's like, whoa. Should I take back everything bad I say about your cult that you're from? Yeah, I'd appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I don't know. It's tough with that coach. That head coach of yours is tough. Yeah. Yeah. Gotta start winning some bigger games. I think he's probably a nice guy. Big win versus Wisconsin, though.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Big win. Big win. I like Trace McSorley a lot. I like the way that kid guy. I mean, I don't know. Big win versus Wisconsin, though. Big win. Big win. I like Trace McSorley a lot. I like the way that kid plays. I like him a lot. There's a kid from Indianapolis, too, I think, on the team. I like him a lot. Tommy Stevens, backup quarterback.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Yeah, yeah. I think he's going to be an animal next year, I think. I think he is, too. I actually like the way that team plays football. I like them a lot. I actually like the way that team plays football. I like them a lot. Yeah, it's – you live and die by big plays.
Starting point is 00:40:53 That's what they are. They're not going to move the chains type offense. You know what I mean? It's not Michigan that's going to get you 38, 40 minutes a time of possession and keep it moving, right? I mean, they're Wisconsin. They're not going to control the ball, running the ball. They're not going to do that. I mean, you either make the big plays,
Starting point is 00:41:11 and Trace McSorley makes a ton of plays running the ball, or it's feast or famine. Cardinals, you guys, Arizona Cardinals center, by the way, A.Q. Shipley. He's on IR because he tours ACL. He's currently in rehab. Was it ACL? ACL. he's on ir because he uh tours acl he's currently in rehab they are not was it acl acl you were you were moving it like four days after surgery so i i tend to believe that this is all big faux big fake i don't think you actually tore your acl because i don't think you should be as far back in recovery as you are but that's neither here nor there
Starting point is 00:41:39 i'd like to think i'm superhuman at times. I know you would like to think that. I know that. You have been on IR, though. They extended you another year. Cardinals walked into the biggest spread, I think, in recent history, 17-and-a-half with the Chiefs, and you guys kept it close there for a little bit. Tyreek Hill really did well. Covered.
Starting point is 00:42:02 We covered. It's a big win. Ited. We covered. We covered. It's a big win. It's a big win. Hey, Tyreek Hill is a different animal, man. Everybody that was on the sidelines said the same thing. I mean, they said that it was, they've never seen a human of any sorts change direction quite like that guy does. He's in a phone booth, and then he runs backwards. He ran like 240 yards for a six-yard gain.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I watched it with my own eyes, and he ran out of bounds. He didn't even get tackled. He just chose to run out of bounds. Screen, a little swing pass to the right. He had him bottled up, backed up, hate belly flops, moved around him, makes two people run into each other, keeps it moving, and then, yeah, runs out of bounds, five-yard game. I thought Patrick Peterson, Antoine Bethea locked him up.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I thought Travis Kelsey was going to have a big, big, big, big, big day. I bet very heavily on him, and it turns out he did not, and Tyreek Hill had a huge day for you guys. Is Patrick Mahomes the truth? You think that offense looks good? You played for Andy Reid, didn't you? Yeah, Andy's smart. I mean, he's one of the few guys that's been able to you know you look you look around the league the older type coaches
Starting point is 00:43:11 he's one of the few guys calling plays that has been able to evolve as the game has evolved oh who are you talking about like mccarthy yes hold on that was a setup for ty schmidt back in the back he's great he hates mike mccarthy i. I'm just saying, it was really shot at the guy in Oakland, to be honest. Oh! Put that on the bulletin board. That's going to make the Raiders
Starting point is 00:43:36 play harder against you because you said that, AQ. Yeah. Keep it moving, right? I just think Andy's so smart. I think he's really, really, really, really good at taking what college players do really well and kind of implementing that into current day offense. Do you think they beat the Rams or no? That's going to be a heck of a matchup.
Starting point is 00:44:04 It's in Mexico too, bro. It's in Mexico. It's going to be a heck of a matchup It's in Mexico too bro It's in Mexico It's going to be loco I know the Rams They just lost Cooper Cupp That's a big loss It is That white dude was making plays
Starting point is 00:44:13 He's a stud I've watched him the last two years I'm like that kid is really good But yeah Both really really good offenses Both teams are giving up a ton of points though. So it's going to be obviously high. I think I saw the over under set at what, like 63.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Somebody, somebody got that there. I have no idea. I did. Yeah. They said it was the highest in like, uh, like the modern NFL history or something like that. There you are. You're on modern NFL history.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Highest. I thought, I thought I read that. Yeah. I mean, cause both teams are just putting up stupid points and giving up a decent amount of points. Either team can stop the run really right now. Yeah. Are you putting dye in your beard? No, it looks good though, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:44:56 I'm starting to get grays, man. So am I. I just trimmed it down. I'm starting to get grays in my beard. I'm trying to figure out whether or not I want them all to come or not. I do. I think I want to go Bob Barker white. I want my hair to go Bob Barker white.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I saw this thing on Facebook called beardaments. Excuse me? This thing on Facebook I saw. It's called beardaments. Okay. They're ornaments for your beard. I'm growing my beard out for Christmas so I can put ornaments in my beard.
Starting point is 00:45:26 All right. Thank you. Thanks for the conversation, bud. Hope the beardaments go great. Okay. Hope the ornaments go great. Hope the recovery goes well. What we were going to originally talk about,
Starting point is 00:45:37 I mean, that was a good conversation about that cult you're in and then a bunch of other stuff too. So what were we going to talk about? Quentin Nelson, whether or not that was normal. Not i didn't think so no not normal but that guy that guy road grader though huh let's see if i can let's see if i'm a scout right now guy's a mauler works well in a phone booth he's uh got passion for the game a lot lot of grit. Loves the game.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Great puller, loves to hit with his head. CTE, definite. High football IQ. He's white, for sure. White in the NFL, it's the only way it happens. They all get labeled with the same stuff Oh yeah My father was a coach at some point First one in last one out
Starting point is 00:46:30 Lunch pail guy High motor It's one of my favorite things to do when I'm the last guy there I take a video of the parking lot And say football guy First one in last one out Real self hype from you I love it Hey how is the mood over there in the Cardinals facility First one in, last one out. Yeah, man. Real self-hype from you.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I love it. Hey, how is the mood over there in the Cardinals facility? Two and seven. Not good. That isn't good. That's no fun at all. Everybody probably thinks their jobs are on the line. Hey, is Jordy Nelson retiring?
Starting point is 00:47:00 Because I read that today. I think everybody's trying to get off the Raiders, yeah. I think everybody and their mom is trying to get off the Raiders. Bruce Irvin somehow was captain of the defense. He somehow got out of to get off the Raiders, yeah. I think everybody and their mom is trying to get off the Raiders. Bruce Irvin somehow was captain of the defense. He somehow got out of there. Now he's back in Atlanta. Jordy, Khalil, everybody's trying to get out of there, bro. Well, that'll help us. That'll help us if Jordy retires,
Starting point is 00:47:16 I think, right? Are you guys playing the Raiders? We play the Raiders this week, yeah. Oh my God. What is the spread going to be there? Probably a pick-em. Yeah, it could be. I think I'd bet on the Cardinals. Did I see – no, somebody – who's your stats guy there? Did I see Saints-Eagles as a pick-em this week as well?
Starting point is 00:47:36 Diggs or Ty are probably the only people I know. Diggs would know this for sure. Yeah, I didn't see that. How could that be a pick-em? This is Vegas knowing something we don't know, though, if that's the case. Yeah, something. Because I hammered the Eagles on Sunday night, AQ. Hammered them.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Lost so much money, it's unbelievable. Well, they just had a huge loss. Did you see that? Ronald Darby? Huge loss. I saw him go down in the game. He covered for an extra two seconds after hurting his knee. Was it his knee?
Starting point is 00:48:03 ACL. Fuck. That's a position, by the way, I don't know how they don't tear more shit. I don't know how corners' bodies can keep up with their reactions. Those dudes... Yeah, they change at a stupid amount of speed.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Explosive, too. It's not just like a casual change. It's like an explosive change. If I don't get out of my break right here, they're going to score a touchdown on us. It's like that. Did you ever watch Sports Science on Saquon Barkley? I mean, he's a skilled guy, so that's the only thing I'm kind of...
Starting point is 00:48:30 I haven't seen Saquon Barkley. I've seen it twice for anyone, though. Okay, so they did his change of direction. That's why he hates it. They did his change of direction in something like... When he plants to change direction, it's something like over 2,000 pounds of force going into there. Did you know they make up all those stats? That seems like a big lie to me.
Starting point is 00:48:52 That seems like false news, fake news. You just got fake news by sports science. I feel like sports science is all about fake news, right? Dude, they said Dwight Franey's spin was similar of a ballerina or an ice skater, a figure skater. I never seen anything like it. I almost lost my mind. I started dying laughing.
Starting point is 00:49:09 I started dying laughing. It's hard to say because it's not like he's ever doing it stationary. It was always like using somebody else's momentum against him. Yeah, and he never had ice either. I mean, there's a lot of things that definitely help here. Razor blades on your feet. That's another thing that would help. That guy had a show for years. He's really rich i would imagine right who's sports science
Starting point is 00:49:28 guy yeah yeah and he just hustled espn into like a full-time deal john brinkus hey switching switching i can't get this off my mind because i went i went this weekend five finger death punch concert if you ever get a chance it's maybe the most amazing thing. Who the fuck's a Five Finger? That's a great name for a band. Five Finger what? Death Punch. Five Finger Death Punch. Just a bunch of metalheads.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Are you a metal guy? I didn't know that. That's like what I listened to before games. And that's like the one band I listen to when I'm working out or before games. And they were in Phoenix. And it was... I'm sending you and it was i'm sending you a video so metal is a bunch of white guys screaming and going real hard on the stage right yeah and that's what you want watched yeah a bunch of guys oh you got your rock horns there hook them
Starting point is 00:50:22 hook them horns hook them horns which leads us into our next conversation. Yeah. Zach Smith, Tom Herman. Oh, dude, did you see this shit erupt on the internet last night? Did you see the text message Tom Herman wrote back? Cool. Okay, or something. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Hook them. Bro, that Zach Smith guy was losing his shit. That was insane. Zach Smith, assistant coach of the that was insane Zach Smith assistant coach of the Ohio State Buckeyes formerly his ex-wife is the one that Urban Meyer got suspended
Starting point is 00:50:54 because he knew about a domestic violence situation with Zach Smith and his ex-wife Zach Smith has found out that Tom Herman also former Urban Meyer coach is the one that ratted him out in an attempt to bury Urban Meyer. Not ratted him out, but exposed that the domestic violence happened to a media member so that he could bury Urban Meyer after working for Urban Meyer.
Starting point is 00:51:17 And last night, or two nights ago on Twitter, Zach Smith was either on one or on four and was just letting it eat to Tom Herman about how him and his wife do cocaine off of strippers' titties. He was talking about how, Tom Herman, you want me to expose you for the Asian massage parlors you were addicted to? Wide open on the Twitter. I feel like a perfect Diggs tweet
Starting point is 00:51:38 to coach Zach Smith would be, hey, coach, tag him and ask him why coaches don still part of his Twitter handle. I feel like that's a perfect way to put it. That is a very big situation there. I love that, though. That's more of the Big Ten just being the Big Ten. There's been a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State. Did Michigan have anything? Michigan probably did. Yeah, weren't they on probation a couple years ago? Probably. state ohio state penn state did michigan have anything michigan brightened it yeah then they weren't they on probation a couple years ago probably i feel like i feel like everybody is i feel like it doesn't matter anymore it's just like ped suspensions in the nfl shit doesn't matter anymore it's just like yeah it happened well they'll be back in four games i'm waiting to see what happens with duke north
Starting point is 00:52:26 carolina because and villanova for that matter because all three of those teams never really got top 10 recruits because they were all about the good guys the high grade honesty honesty all that stuff and now all of a sudden they're getting a lot of top 10 k in the top three all of a sudden sheshevsky's dipping down into calipari waters excuse me coach k i would like to know about the strippers attending the recruiting parties yeah because it appears as if this is a calipari situation you got going something changed i'm just saying i don't know well i think it's the ability to go coach or go play for a legend like Coach Krzyzewski and get education at a fine establishment like Duke because they're student athletes.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Remember, student first, athlete second. Yeah. Yeah. They should be called student human athletes because they're students and humans first and then athletes third. If I'm going to go play somewhere for one year, i want it to be the best academic experience of my life if i'm gonna stay for less than a semester i want it to be the greatest education for less than a semester i could
Starting point is 00:53:35 ever have in my entire life so what you're saying is when zion cam and the other guy was one two three when they declare in january, they're getting their degrees. They had four months of the best education they could have. They got the greatest education four months could give you. There's something that you would never, ever, ever get anywhere else other than Duke. Did you hear about this five-star recruit that was going to go to Syracuse?
Starting point is 00:54:02 No. This five-star recruit, he was committed to Syracuse and decided against going there. Because? He signed a deal with New Balance. Oh, G League. This is a G League guy. Yeah, this is old news.
Starting point is 00:54:16 No. No. No G League. Yeah, and what's his face came out and ruined him? Bayheim or whatever? Is that Syracuse coach who came out and talked a lot of shit on him? Yeah, so this guy, so the guy, there's a guy that did that last year and went to the
Starting point is 00:54:28 G League. This guy is not going to the G League. He's living in Memphis, doing an internship with New Balance for a million dollars. If he ends up making it to the league, it's worth up to $14 million. But in the process, he's living with Mike Miller, who's an assistant coach at the University of Memphis,
Starting point is 00:54:43 former NBA player, training with him every day and also head coach of the university of memphis anthony penny hardaway anthony you just said yeah how about anthony penny hardaway penny the one with the c you remember the old shoes the white with the blue and mike miller the white three-point shooting specialist for LeBron there for a while? Yes, sir. Yep. And that's the buy-in there. This guy has signed with LeBron's management team.
Starting point is 00:55:13 So LeBron's management team was like, fuck school, bro. Fuck the G League. Fuck it all. We'll just get you to live with this white boy that can shoot threes. Okay, real quick. We'll get your stroke game up because Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, and them have changed the game. Also, Penny Hardaway is there. We'll teach you some swag and a little bit of a way to play.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And in a year from now, you rock new balances. Bing, bang, boom, new balances now in the NBA. Here we go. We're making content all year. Bingo. You don't even have to act like you're going to class. We ain't even going to act like we're writing papers. We don't have to do any of that.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Make sure you put that news came from me, okay? Make sure. Confirm it. I think we broke this news like three weeks ago. This seems like this is old news. I feel like I forgot about it. Hey, I think I'm playing horse against Lamar Odom on Thursday. Stop it. Stop it. If this happens,
Starting point is 00:56:04 I will be tuning in immediately. I think that's the Be Pat McAfee this week is me versus Lamar Odom with a horse in Los Angeles, probably in an outdoor basketball court where I will dress like Billy Hoyle. Wait, man, can't jump. Billy Ho. I cannot wait for this. I will live stream this. That's a fucking thing in our complex.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I swear to God, I will. Be Pat McAfee this Thursday. We don't know the time because we're trying to figure out when Lamar Odom can make it. Normally, we do it at noon Eastern Standard Time. That's 9 a.m. L.A. time. I feel like that's a huge ask of Lamar Odom. I feel like that would be very rude of us to do that. So we're going to kind of go around his schedule.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Imagine my conversation with Lamar Odom, by the way while playing horse i'm amazing i can't wait to hear what i get out of him i can't wait i'm excited to talk to that guy i've heard some stories about him he lives pretty hard yeah yeah but yeah if anything's true from what we've read he lives a great life he's living his best life he lives lives hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He lives hard. He lives hard. All right, I'll talk to you, AQ. See you, guys. So it's not normal.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Not normal. All right, see you. So there you have it. It's not normal. I'm glad he said that because it didn't look normal. Yeah, it looked like a lunatic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:19 It really looked like an absolute lunatic. It's the scariest thing I've ever seen. Of all time. Yeah. Halftime. Convers conversations have been great by the way i dug in aq a little bit there about sandusky because that's kind of my thing oh yeah any of my friends that played football at penn state or anybody know of penn state from pittsburgh boy i'll tell you what that does not look good for them but i do think we got to the bottom of it a little bit today definitely i think we did i think we absolutely did and speaking of getting to the bottom of things why don't you find out exactly who you are why don't you find out exactly what you're made of 23andme is named
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Starting point is 01:02:47 I think that might be my intro music. Ooh, that'd be a good one. That sound right there? Yeah. It's got to add a shotgun shell, though. You'll hear it. You'll know when. Wait for it.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Pitch Black Arena. pitch black arena wait for them to ask you then you start walking out yeah You don't know that half of the abuse All my friends are here to take a stand Then you start walking out? Yeah. Yeah. Wait for them to ask you who you know Please don't make any sudden moves You don't know the half of the abuse
Starting point is 01:03:45 Welcome to the room of people Who have rooms of people that they love I think it could be something. Honestly. People have been sending me intro themes that they think would be good, and I appreciate it a lot. It means a lot that you're thinking about me
Starting point is 01:04:00 when you hear a song, but I'm going to be honest. A lot of them are dog shit. Would you do a split boston connor has joined us what's up hello how are you yep what's up would you do a nice little split after the part what's a split to another song yes like a switch oh i thought he'd do the splits that's a lot for a warm-up walking out i't think, are splits big in the WWE? Oh yeah, dudes are flexible. Is that a popular move?
Starting point is 01:04:26 No, I assume, no, actually I don't think it is. Maybe I hit a split on somebody. Come on, hit a split. I can't,
Starting point is 01:04:33 I can't even touch my toes. If I'm a WWE wrestler, it lasts about two weeks until I rip something. Two weeks, maybe a week and a half. Maybe we'll get the nice run through the first one.
Starting point is 01:04:42 What's it called when you're all jacked up and you can't feel any pain? Adrenaline. Yeah. The first week, probably a lot of adrenaline. Maybe second week, adrenaline. That third week, though, once the adrenaline has kind of subsided a little bit, probably going to rip something. Might be screwed.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Well, I think a song switch could be work well there. You think so? Yeah, I do. I think song switches do well because no one sees it coming. You throw in that after that little part there, and then all of a sudden, bang, we're into I think song switches do well because no one sees it coming. So you throw in that after that little part there, and then all of a sudden, bang, we're into a new song. I like the shotgun sound of the fake shotgun I have in my house.
Starting point is 01:05:12 By the way, the fake shotgun I have before Fame by Break's in my house, it's like a real, like a full-on, you know, like something's loading in here. You don't want to come to the back room. There's a big old shotgun back there. You know what I mean? It can't shoot shoot anything it's a big fake piece of metal there but it's a real because you know it sets the tone yeah you might have to bring that in the actual thing record that mic on it what if it gets a song cred that shotgun my shotgun has a song cred should dj callan's little baby has one that little kid he's all over a bunch of songs
Starting point is 01:05:44 it's a bunch of songs. It's a bunch of bullshit. Really? Yeah. Connor, you look good, by the way. Hey, I appreciate that. Hey, thanks to you. You have jeans on. I have jeans on now, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Same top. See, the top has never been the problem, apparently. Never. Yeah. I always thought it was the whole entire thing, really, that had the problem. It was your god-awful sweatpants, I think, is what we mostly hated. Yeah, pretty much. Yep.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I haven't really shopped for clothes outside of wholesale stores now we've heard that but now you have real pants on you look like a real adult and then you just wear those shoes with holes in them like i don't understand i don't have shoes why are you disrespecting the new pants with those shoes i don't mean to i don't mean any disrespect to these new jeans, first of all. These shoes just happen to be the only ones that I kind of immobile in. Before, I didn't notice the holes in them because you would wear the dirty fucking sweatpants. Yeah, I was throwing it out. They distracted from the shoes, but now they pop.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Yeah, exactly. The holes are popping on the shoes. Yeah. I think they add so much grit. I thought it was going to be good for it, honestly. You know what? You're becoming an adult. Do you see this happening here, Fox?
Starting point is 01:06:50 Oh, yeah. This is a pub founder becoming an adult here. You guys are becoming a mature establishment. I'm growing up in front of your guys' eyes right now. You're still chugging Red Bulls, just like Ty. I mean, you can't beat Ty with the sweatpants now because you've got pants that are sweatpants. But, I mean, you're really moving forward. I mean, you can't beat Ty with the sweatpants now because you've got pants that are sweatpants. But, I mean, you're really moving forward.
Starting point is 01:07:07 I know. I guess Ty did take the sweatpants king title before me. Well, it's also his sweatpants were adult sweatpants. We've had this conversation a lot of times. Ty wears adult sweatpants. You were wearing middle school sweatpants. You were wearing let's have a seat, catch a predator sweatpants. Yeah, that's what they were.
Starting point is 01:07:26 They were, excuse me, sir, would you please have a seat over here, sweatpants. That's what you were. If that's the case, then maybe I'll go home and cut them up because I didn't realize that was. I mean, we had Mein Kampf 2 from Todd at me the other day. Here we are. That's because where you're from, but he's saying you're a pedophile because you dress like one.
Starting point is 01:07:45 I'm not saying you're a pedophile. No, no. That you look like one're from, but he's saying you're a pedophile because you dress like one. I'm not saying that you look like one. Connor, you don't deserve that. I just want to say you appeared to be one. I don't know if you actually were one. You gave one the impression that you lean in that direction. So not a huge deal. I just appear to be a predator. Not anymore.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Not anymore. You look like a real grown adult. A homegrown instead of a homeless. Yeah. Yeah. There look like a real grown adult. A homegrown instead of a homeless. Yeah. Yeah. There it is. There it is.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Okay, so now we're past that. Now we're on an adult Connor here. We're out of college. We're in a workplace now. We're in the workforce. Yes, I'm intellectual. I agree. You're a founder of a pub.
Starting point is 01:08:24 That video you put out on Friday made me cry laughing. What was it? Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay. Oh, yeah? You had the old, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay. Yeah, I held the last one. Listeners didn't deserve that, what you just did to them. Was it that loud? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:34 I pulled the mic so far away from my face. You're always loud. Yeah, yeah. Which I feel very bad about. I think you're really finding your groove here, Connor. I'm hitting a stride, perhaps, as they say. Blogging you're doing well. Blogging.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Huh? You're starting to wear pants. You're really starting to... Pants are coming together. Except now, after this latest debacle yesterday, Patriots get blown out by the Tennessee Titans, who don't even know how to play football. It's over, right?
Starting point is 01:08:59 But yeah, now I changed my outfit. It's beginning of the end. Now the Pats start losing, so I might have to go back now. No. No. It's too late. Yeah, now I changed my outfit. It's beginning of the end. Now the Pats start losing, so I might have to go back now. No. No. It's too late. Yeah, yeah. Now you've got to double down and get shoes.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yeah, the shoes. You think that's what it is? That'll turn it all around. You think that's what it is? It's because I only went halfway. Yes. Now I need to go the full way. Then the Patriots will start winning again.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Do your job. Bill Belichick says it all the time. Do your job. Okay. I bet on the Patriots. It's huge. Money line. Massive.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Massive bet. Massive. Massive bet. Massive. One of the biggest bets I've put in sports history. One of my biggest bets I've ever put in sports betting history was on the Patriots money line down there. I knew it was going to be close because the Titans are a good defensive team. I knew that it was going to happen. But no, no.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Complete opposite. Vrabel just beats the fuck out of Belichick in their first match. It hurts. Especially because. Malcolm Butler. It hurts. Especially because Malcolm Butler, Deion Lewis. Deion Lewis needs to slow his roll. Oh, because he came out after beating the hell out of the Patriots?
Starting point is 01:09:53 No, because he acts like he's the first guy who's been unbelievable that we should have re-signed, but due to the fact that they've earned their money at that point. Deion Lewis earned his money. For sure should have gotten a better contract. Dude, respect
Starting point is 01:10:09 the quote that he gave. You don't respect the intentions, but the quote was, what happens when you go cheap? You get your ass kicked. That's just fucking cool. I did. I did.
Starting point is 01:10:22 He also tweeted the 50 cent gif. Gif? Jif? Jif. Him smiling? Him, yeah. Nice little smile, drive away.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Hey, you hear he's 50 Cent's buying all of Ja Rule's master tapes or whatever? Really? What? Oh, God, is he really? Yeah, yeah. 50 Cent is continuing to troll Ja Rule as far as you can. It's like what Vrabel did to Belichick. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Similar, similar maybe. Do you think Vrabel is the blueprint on how to beat the Patriots and now every team is just going to watch what Vrabel did and be like, oh, this guy was inside the system for a long time. This is how you beat the Patriots. No, because we had the same conversation after we lost to the Lions. And after we lost to the Lions, everyone was like, oh, Patricia. Oh, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:11:07 You guys lose to Matt Patricia and Vrabel. Yep. Two former people that have been inside the Patriots building beat the Patriots. They know the Patriot way. They know how to beat them. Beat us in very different ways, too. What do you mean? So each knows a way.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Well, the Lions held on to the ball. We had the ball for two minutes at halftime. So Matt Patricia was like, obviously, the way to beat them is to keep the ball out of Tom Brady's hands. Every time we lose, defense is on the field a lot longer than the office. That's the way to beat them. And Vrabel said. And Vrabel said, why don't we just go out, get the players that they had last year, and then we'll come back and beat them next year. I think that's exactly what happened.
Starting point is 01:11:49 So there's no fear in New England. I have no no fear not at all we're seven and three we started remember before we were one and two so here we are we're seven and three we're going into the buy again we're in the afc east so we have about three layups hey that's my ringer by the way this is a heater intro. This could be the shotgun to this. That's Shinsuke Nakamura's old entrance. It was the best music I've ever heard in my life. Very good. First time I heard it, I was like, I would like that to be everywhere I go.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Put that as my ringer. That got the biggest pop out of anyone in New Orleans when we were on Bourbon Street when that came on. I remember. See, I forgot about us being on Bourbon Street at WrestleMania weekend. Oh, yeah. It was fun.
Starting point is 01:12:33 They were playing intro themes, like people's intros. And everybody on the street was dancing to intros. It was awesome. Vince McMahon's, you've got no chance. The entire Bourbon Street was screaming, no chance in hell. You've got. It was awesome. Like a power hour of WrestleMania intros.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Yeah, that's exactly what it was. At every bar with all their, it was awesome. It was one of the happiest audiences I've ever been around in my life. For sure. There was a full fake wrestling match that happened right in the middle of Bourbon Street. Like people were dropping elbows on each other and the cops came to break it up because they. There was a full fake wrestling match that happened right in the middle of Bourbon Street. Like people were dropping elbows on each other and the cops came to break it up
Starting point is 01:13:08 because they thought it was a fight and the cops started getting booed by the fans. Boo! It was awesome. It was really cool. Anyways, let's get back to it. New England Patriots
Starting point is 01:13:17 were one and two, not worried about it. Not worried about it. Seven and three now by week. And again, we have a couple layups. We have the Bills. We have the Jets.
Starting point is 01:13:26 The Tennessee Titans are a really good football team all of a sudden. Well, defensively, they are one, right? They're number one in scoring defense. Yep. Which is pretty legitimate. I mean, I don't know. I hate when the Patriots lose because here we are talking about it. It's the worst part of my week, aside
Starting point is 01:13:42 from them actually losing. You know why? Because they were a fucking lock, though. Why? I lost so much money on them. It wasn't even seven points. Everybody told me. Everybody told me.
Starting point is 01:13:56 This money line's going to get you, Pat. You bet on these money lines, it's going to get you. It seems to be a lock right now, Pat. It seems to be a lock. But what happens when the Titans beat the Patriots? That's what they were saying to me. Literally, that's what the exact quotes that were happening to me. I'm like, no, no.
Starting point is 01:14:12 I figured out a sports game. We would just go money line. Bing, bang, boom. We win all the time. You're like, no, no, no. One time, it'll get you. And you know what happened? It got you.
Starting point is 01:14:20 The Titans got me. It got you. I know. And I should have never done it. I should have known. You were buying that money line, was that like three times on the investment? Yeah, I think it was like $370 or something like that. It's about, I think they were minus $300. Yeah, it was pretty large.
Starting point is 01:14:34 I mean, it's just one of those things where you just assume that Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are going to figure it out. They're going to figure it out. You're just going to assume that they're going to figure it out. Yeah. Because they've been so great for so long. For so long. But then what happens?
Starting point is 01:14:48 Old Vrabel gets his boxing gloves on, puts the boys to work down in Nashville, and all of a sudden an upset happens and you're out a few thousand all of a sudden out of nowhere. I don't even think
Starting point is 01:14:57 I had the game on, to be honest. I got six TVs here. I can't watch every game. I don't even think I had the game on. And then a highlight popped in on the Colts game
Starting point is 01:15:04 and I'm like, what the fuck's going on over there? 24 to 10? Excuse me? I think they got the team. I can't believe they got the teams wrong. Let me switch over there. It was wild.
Starting point is 01:15:16 No Gronk, too. Yeah, he didn't even complete half his passes. He was getting beat up, too. I was watching Tom Brady. He was getting beat up. He was on the ground a lot. That never happens. That never happens to old Tommy B.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Never happens. He tripped himself. He tripped himself once. Is Gronk being all banged up? I mean, I know he is every year, but does that worry you this year that he might be done? So I don't think he's done. Is there a close talk of him being done?
Starting point is 01:15:41 No. I mean, he's just so injury prone. How much longer can they, you know? He's glass. He's glass. I know that. He's not glass. He's the size of a barn.
Starting point is 01:15:50 He's very easy to hit. A barn made out of glass. Wow. He gets hurt a lot. That's Western Pennsylvania's finest. The biggest problem is yesterday the stat was Brady threw it 12 times to Josh Gordon. He threw it 12 times to Julian Edelman. And then he threw it three times to every other receiver in total.
Starting point is 01:16:11 So, you know, you only throw it to two guys. One of them has a Dory Jackson on him who's pretty freaking good. You can't really win the game throwing to one wide receiver, I'd say. Josh Gordon, by the way, really picking up the workload for that guy. Oh, yeah. He's figuring it out, too. You get Gronk on the field with Josh Gordon and Edelman in there, that's quite a recipe for dominance.
Starting point is 01:16:30 But of course not against the Titans when Moneyline's minus three. People are saying Gronk's done? He's not done. Yeah, not really. Shit, when was the last time he played a full slate? Has he ever? I don't think he has. We also drafted him But he just, like, I mean, shit, when was the last time he played a full slate? Has he ever? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:45 I don't think he has. I don't think he ever has. I don't think he ever has. We also drafted him after he did, I think, six years of school, five of the six he got hurt into. So he's been injury prone since Arizona. It's because he's so large and he takes so many hits. So you can't be that large in that.
Starting point is 01:17:01 I mean, he's a huge target. Huge. Huge target. Massive. and he's very fast so those he doesn't like to go down in those high speed collisions or something it's it's a it's his mind not thinking like andrew luck now andrew luck squirts out of bounds now it's kind of fun to watch actually because he looks so uncomfortable doing it he'll turn down a big shot and just run out of bounds yeah and this past week he did, and he got a standing ovation from the crowd in Lucas Oil.
Starting point is 01:17:27 The place went crazy when he did it. They're like, yeah, hey, we're going to have you for a couple more games. It's like Gronk. I don't know if you can do that as Gronk because you're a tight end, so you literally can't do that. He hates to go down.
Starting point is 01:17:38 It's so aggravating. Because you also look at where Gronk, when Gronk came into the league, you could de-cleat somebody and it wouldn't be as big of a deal. But from when he's come in to now, the area of where you could hit somebody has slowly shrunk. It would have been nice for Gronk long ago.
Starting point is 01:17:56 It would have been really nice because, again, TJ Ward, right after they changed that rule where you can't hit a guy up top after he catches the ball or whatever because targeting, unnecessary roughness, whatever. It's impossible to know the difference. T.J. Ward came in and destroyed his right leg. I don't know if you guys remember that. I think he's still playing for Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:18:14 T.J. Ward, that is. And then after that, it was like, okay, there is no way Gronk can catch a ball going down a seam and not get hurt immediately because he'll get de-cleated below or someone you know, someone comes in, tries to clean his clock up top, and then he's got a concussion. All right, let's move on past the Patriots. I'm already sick of talking about it.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Good. Me too. Two weeks from now. How's your NBA blogging going? NBA is going fantastic. I've only seen, I think, like three blogs. No, I've done one every morning here. You do an NBA blog every day oh yeah
Starting point is 01:18:45 except for sundays well mostly because i was still pissed about uh jimmy butler i don't know if you heard about the philadelphia 76ers here no what happened jimmy butler huge trade jimmy butler the guy that went and played pickup against that team in minnesota and talk shit to him yes yes okay same guy from the air him yeah. He got traded to Philadelphia. Oh. Him and Carl Anthony Towns, big guy on Minnesota. He's kind of their guy. They got in a fist fight before he had to leave the locker room, obviously. Like the day he got traded while he's cleaning up his stuff. Carl Anthony Towns comes over and is like, hey, by the way, on your way out, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Yeah, he was like, no one's going to miss you. Like, you're a bitch. And then they got into a fist fight, and then Carl AnthonyAnthony Towns started crying and left the locker room. He said, I've never seen a seven-foot-tall bitch before. Who said that? That's what Butler said to Karl-Anthony Towns. Yeah, yeah. Big deal.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Big deal. Was he crying from laughing? Yeah. Not Karl-Anthony Towns. Yeah, Karl-Anthony Towns is crying from laughing. No, sir. He got Wiggins good, too. Who?
Starting point is 01:19:48 Jimmy Butler. He got a shot in at him as well. So on his way out while he's cleaning up his locker, is Carl Anthony Towns just sitting down? He's kind of icing his feet probably at his locker. Jimmy Butler's cleaning up his stuff. Hey, see you later. Hey, by the way, I ain't never seen a seven-foot-tall bitch before.
Starting point is 01:20:04 And then they started a fight. Carl Anthony Towns, just like Pat Ingram, was like, way, I ain't never seen a seven-foot-tall bitch before. And then they started a fight. Carl Anthony Towns, just like Pat Ingram, was like, oh, I have to fight this guy. That's what happened? Yes, exactly. Jimmy Butler started it, is what we're saying. And then what did he say to old buddy? To Wiggins, he reportedly said, cut those fucking braids, you ugly fuck. And then just left.
Starting point is 01:20:21 And then got on a plane to Philadelphia. Yeah, yeah. I was like, I'm done. See you guys later. I love that. It's a good move, yeah. And now Philadelphia's a plane to Philadelphia. Yeah, yeah. I hope to see you guys later. I love that. It's a good move, yeah. And now Philadelphia's really good. All of a sudden, basketball in the East.
Starting point is 01:20:29 It's not as big of a joke as it was before. It's true. Yeah, probably. Celtics. Can you keep the Golden State Warriors under 180? No. Steph Curry got hurt. Did he really?
Starting point is 01:20:40 Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, he's not playing tonight. Last year he got hurt and he lost his groove. So he has terrible ankles, and they're saying his entire lower body is taking the toll because of that. What's this one, like a hamstring or something? Yeah, something like that. Because he gets hurt every year.
Starting point is 01:20:53 He got hurt last year and then he lost his groove. He actually hit a slump, like a drought. Nobody thought it was possible. I only see that because I follow the internet when they're like, Steph can't hit anything. Steph can't hit anything. And this year he started out real hot. How do they keep him hot through the injury? Is like, Steph can't hit anything. Steph can't hit anything. And this year, he started out real hot. How do they keep him hot through the injury?
Starting point is 01:21:07 Is that possible? Can't. No. It's impossible. But again, you take one of them off, and there's still three guys who start on that team. Four. DeMarcus Cousins.
Starting point is 01:21:16 If you add in DeMarcus Cousins. If you add DeMarcus Cousins, yeah. There's still four guys on that team who could start for the USA team. So, like, is it that big of a deal? No, not really. But for now. Coach Krzyzewski is the start for the USA team. So, like, is it that big of a deal? No, not really. But for now. Coach Krzyzewski is the coach of the USA team, man. He just doesn't let anybody start on that team.
Starting point is 01:21:31 No. Nope. You got to earn it. You got to earn it. Duke yesterday, too. I don't know if you saw Zion yesterday. Oh, my God. The guy is absurd.
Starting point is 01:21:39 There was people saying that he wouldn't start for the Fab Five. Jalen Rose said that. That's insane. There was people who told me right to my face that they were a basketball expert and said Zion couldn't play in college shows. He's not going to be any good in college. He's not going to be any good. People said that to me.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Last night he had 27, or this was yesterday, against Army on Veterans Day. Sunday. Two nights ago. Happy Veterans Day. Two nights ago. Happy Veterans Day. 27 points. He only missed three shots.
Starting point is 01:22:03 16 rebounds. Four assists and six blocks. That's the big one. And six blocks. I saw him volleyball spike one. Yes. And I think it went into the camera. For those in the volleyball world, the 10-foot line is the line in the middle of the court.
Starting point is 01:22:20 It's 10 feet away from the net. If you get a spike in there, it's a big deal. Big deal. Well, because you're really high. so you have to be very high to get down there so he literally spiked that thing 10 foot line and then it bounced up into the crowd yeah and that's one of the most insane things of all time it was like a set it was like the guy literally set him the ball on his shot he can do that anytime he wants he's gonna do it all year yeah he just learned you think that he can do that anytime he wants. He's going to do it all year. He just learned, do you think, that he can do that? It's like, oh, I thought this was
Starting point is 01:22:47 only a high school thing. I can do this against college kids as well. Wait, I'm better than you in college too? Oh, see, everybody was telling me in my South Carolina prep school that I wasn't going to be able to do this. It turns out that this is very similar. This is very, very similar. Because guess what? I'm getting coached too, by the way. So people are
Starting point is 01:23:03 forgetting that that goes both ways. Like, hey, Zion's also getting better because I would assume that they have one guy coaching him. Like, hey, this is how we make you the greatest player of all time because that would be good for the Duke Blue Devils too. He's also got two other guys who are top five recruits on the court with him at the same time. Number one recruit. Yeah, that doesn't hurt. One, two, and three are all on the same team. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Shipley brought this up earlier in the show. Said Coach K's got something cooking in the Calipari world. He's doing something. Duffel bags full of cash. He's helping somebody out with the SATs. So he's got to – SATs? Did he just say –
Starting point is 01:23:36 What are you implying? What are you saying, Boston Connor? Hey, hey. We talked about Calipari. Calipari, for me, when I think about how he cheats, he had little Derrick Rose, had a nice little person take Derrick Rose's SAT. Oh, because we thought you were saying that Zion was too stupid to get into. Actually, no, because I think the opposite.
Starting point is 01:23:54 That's what I did here, didn't I? Yeah. That's what he said. That's what I thought. That's what I thought he said. I'm thinking the opposite. We saw the school Zion went to. I bet their academics are unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Oh, so you think it's the school he went to and not him? Wow. You're saying all the good schools were just brushing through? Like you said, he has a good coach at Duke, correct? I'm sure he had a great coach or tutor at his prep school as well. Oh, now you're saying that? Make him smarter. Because what you said at the beginning was that Coach K had to cheat
Starting point is 01:24:21 because Zion's too stupid to get in. You said he couldn't read. That's what you said. You said he couldn't read. That's what you said. You said he couldn't read. That's what I implied. No, no. That's what you said, though. That's what I implied.
Starting point is 01:24:29 However, what I meant was I think Zion is so smart that Coach K didn't even need to help him to get into Duke. Oh, okay. Take away Zion's basketball, he's still sitting in an 8 o'clock class in North Carolina. Oh, you think he's just a student. He doesn't have to be a student athlete. Yes, he's just a student. 8 o'clock class in North Carolina. Oh, you think he's just a student. He doesn't have to be a student athlete. Yes, he's just a student. He could be Duke's student, human.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Just his eye on the math major, yeah. That's what it sounded like you were saying. Yeah. That's exactly what you were saying. See, that was my final thought the entire time. I just had to land the plane. To get there. Yeah, it's a long roller coaster ride.
Starting point is 01:25:02 You just got to get to the end. It sure sounded like you said something else. It's crazy that we got to that. Yeah, it's a long roller coaster ride. You just got to get to the end. Sure sounded like you said something else. It's crazy that we got to that. Yeah, I can't believe I misunderstood that. Yeah, I can't believe you guys thought that's what I meant. Will Duke ever lose? No. No.
Starting point is 01:25:12 No way. No way. It's insane. I don't think I've ever heard a more certain no right there. Get them to the league now. Yeah. This is the most lopsided I've ever seen a team, I think. Coach K knew too, right?
Starting point is 01:25:26 Oh, yeah. First day of practices, probably organized activities. Coach K's just got his second hair dye of the month to keep that thing pristine black. He's like, man, I don't think we really have to coach shit this year. Just got these three fucking avatars playing against these common humans out here. They are killing people. They're taller than everybody.
Starting point is 01:25:49 They're faster than everybody. Even the fucking, they got the shooter on there. They even got a white shooter on them. Who's taller than everybody else? And it looks like he's got hands. I don't know how they do it. Dude's got like three guys on the bench who could start like anywhere else in the country.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Kentucky? Yeah. Maybe. I mean, Kentucky hasn't looked that great so far this year. They never do, by the country. Kentucky? Yeah. Maybe. I mean, Kentucky hasn't looked that great so far this year. They never do, by the way. Kentucky ought to go as far. They always are a tournament team. Yeah, and they're one of the few that every year it's five new guys.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Yeah, exactly. Cal Perry doesn't coach team basketball. I just want to let everybody know that because of the Duke team, so this is what incredible basketball does. It is making me tune into college basketball. Like WVU was on the other team. So this is what incredible basketball does. It is making me tune in to college basketball. Like WVU was on the other night. I love Bob Huggins, but I've never really paid attention to the team all year round until
Starting point is 01:26:32 they get to the tournament. Bob Huggins, really good tournament coach. He always finds a way to survive in advance, it seems like, even with not that great of a team. They were on the other night. I'm like, oh, I got to watch this. And then I'm watching it. I'm like, how would they do if they accidentally landed in the same group or bracket as duke and it's like okay we got a good team though wvu's got a gritty team i think we're gonna be good this year but
Starting point is 01:26:54 because of duke i'm tuning into other college basketball games i'm just watching like how would this team oh they got no shot zion zion could go five, I think, against this team here if he wanted to. There's a few in the top 25. Top 25 teams in the country. And you look at from 10 to 25. I don't even think they could hold a flame to Duke. I would wonder if Duke might win a game by like 60 this year. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:22 I would slam them in that game, too. I bet one of their spreads eventually will be like minus 50, and I'm going to take it for sure. They could probably, their bench could probably, if not win the Big Ten, at least get second, third. They'll be like in there with their bench. I agree with that. Big Ten's bad this year.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Yeah. What's that all about? Well, it's just a down year. Michigan State's the best team, but we're not even that great. We're still good, but not great. Yeah, and the best recruits in the country all went to fucking Duke. And if they didn't go to Duke, they went to Kentucky. Is North Carolina got no shot, huh?
Starting point is 01:27:58 They're completely out of the mix. What happened to them? They used to be the guy with the white hair. He dances. You see the gif of him dancing. Roy Williams. I see the gif of him dancing in the locker room. I think they're still walking on eggshells because they know that sanctions are coming sooner or later.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Oh, because they were handing out degrees to people. Yes. Yeah, they just won, too. And they got former players saying, like, yeah, I never went to class. I never had to do any homework. Never wrote a paper. They haven't gotten really a decent class since they got strong right rich rodriguez you know why wasn't why weren't we doing that why weren't we just giving me degree why why why why
Starting point is 01:28:31 why weren't we doing i mean rich rod has gotten the hot water because of things that go on in his personal life he might as well just want full thing and just gave me a degree screwed up the whole thing just do it all if you're gonna end getting banned anyways, which I think he kind of got blacklisted. I don't know what happened. I read a little bit of the story. I don't know all of it. But hey, man, why don't we give me a degree? Pat White, why don't we just give him a doctorate? Steve Slayton?
Starting point is 01:28:56 Huh? Give him maybe. Maybe he's a dean. Maybe. Maybe. Why not? I feel like that's happening at a lot of schools. A lot of schools. I feel like that's happening at a lot of schools. Wasn't in West Virginia, obviously, but I would have been mad. By the way, you can't blame the players there. No way. No way.
Starting point is 01:29:11 That's the thing. If you're a player, too. Why are you coming back and snitching on a team? Well, that sucks. I didn't know. People who have been through it and got those benefits, I don't know why you would go back and ruin it for everyone else. So they can't get the benefits. That's a hater.
Starting point is 01:29:25 That's just what haters do. It's what haters do. It's what haters do. It's like if the teacher's about to end class and you remind her that you didn't give homework out yet, then everybody has to get homework. You're a hater. Yes. Hey, bud, you're the worst. Doesn't make any sense to me.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Who's doing it? It was like a year and a half, two years ago. It was Rashad McCants, though. He was very good when he was at UNC. He was. But he kind of flamed out in the NBA, so I think he was just trying to get his name back into the spotlight a little bit. Oh, so this is a relevance snitch?
Starting point is 01:29:54 I think so. Wow. There's also, what I don't understand is, if you are one of those top-of-the-line players, like your freshman, sophomore year, you know you're going to play professional sports. What is the motivation behind making them go to class like why wouldn't you just start explaining real life well in certain schools know how to get around it like when greg odin was at
Starting point is 01:30:15 ohio state he was taking like the history of rock and roll and shit like that you know i took an athletic coaching education class it was awesome we Rocky. I missed it because I left halfway through. We had to write a little review on Rocky. And then we had to give a motivational paper. Nice. What was yours like? What were you motivating there? Oh, I was going for it.
Starting point is 01:30:38 I forget what exactly my topic was, but it was one of the ones I really enjoyed putting together. You have a topic like a sport or you have a topic like motivate me to eat this cereal yeah it has to be it's a it's like an action it was motivate somebody to do an action it was something like ridiculous like that yeah it was something along those lines i don't it might have been motivate somebody to write a paper or something it might have been write a paper about motivating somebody to write a paper and it was i i took it as motivating me. Me talking to me.
Starting point is 01:31:08 That's not bad, though. Everybody got an A on a paper, but I think I actually deserved one. Well, your motivation was so good that you wrote a paper. You wrote a paper. That's how good it was. Athletic coaching education, solid. Anything else to talk about, Connor?
Starting point is 01:31:23 You lost your phone? Yeah, I lost my phone. Where'd you lose your phone at? Good question. I'll let you know when I find it. But I actually watched, Todd started it, but I watched the new movie on Netflix, The Outlaw King. What's that about?
Starting point is 01:31:38 It's Braveheart 2. Yep. Real. Picks up right where Wallace gets executed. Yeah, it's like- What happens right after that? Yeah, like know how at the end of Braveheart he's getting tortured? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:31:49 You've never seen Braveheart? I haven't either. Couldn't even guess. Of the movies, I assumed that you've seen Braveheart. They may take our lives, but they will never take our freedom! I've seen about 500 highlight tapes Of those at the beginning I've seen that
Starting point is 01:32:07 I've seen that particular scene That part No less than 200 times I've seen it So it's the second But I get it It's the sequel Like the movie
Starting point is 01:32:17 The movie Scotland right Scotland Movie starts And William Wallace isn't even dead yet It's even got some of the same actors Yeah it's got some of the same actors in it Is William Wallace in it No he yet. It's even got some of the same actors. Yeah, it's got some of the same actors in it. Is William Wallace in it?
Starting point is 01:32:26 No, he's not. They can't afford Mel Gibson. Yeah, I mean, hey, it's only Netflix, okay? They're just starting to make movies. Netflix is investing $80 billion in things. Yeah, they got plenty. By the way, I talked about this on the show earlier with... Who was in here for it?
Starting point is 01:32:43 Diggs was in it for a little bit and then uh these guys back here yeah tony robbins i'm not your guru go and strap in for two hours of life change oh yeah oh yeah is that good well we'll talk we have a full conversation coming up after this okay i think i think it's worth it yeah i don't want to ruin a conversation later all right people will stick around for yeah i'll take it i'll take i'll take a look at it what is it again tony robbins i am not your guru we're gonna talk about right now we'll take out the later conversation i would like to talk to you guys about it all right tony robbins is a self-help guy he's gary v but on a much larger scale okay much larger scale and i thought he was his big self-help jesus thumper you know like go to
Starting point is 01:33:25 god go do god god does this have you witnessed the power of the lord in front of you i thought that's what he was yeah because he's so massive he's like joel austin i feel like he's okay in my head but no no he's not he swears at people tells them to go to like basically i'm that motherfucker he says to people yeah yeah yeah he yells at people he's charging people four thousand nine hundred and ninety five dollars for six day self-help seminars wow twenty five hundred people were there in palm beach palm beach florida two thousand five hundred people paid four thousand nine hundred and ninety five dollars for a six day self-help convention led by tonybins. Really? I am not your guru.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Tony Robbins is the Netflix documentary about it. So you pay that much for a six-day experience with this guy? So this two-hour documentary, is it a special? It's like two hours and ten minutes. It's a documentary. It basically covers the entire six-day. I think it's called Date with Destiny is what he calls it. So it's a six-day Date with Destiny with Tony Robbins,
Starting point is 01:34:25 $4,995 a person. Not $5,000. $4,995 a person. 2,500 people made $12.4 million in six days. No big deal. Goes out there, and he's doing it in the trenches, asking people what their problems are. It's a Q&A sesh.
Starting point is 01:34:43 It's a Q&A sesh. He's given all the A's. They get all the Q's. Yep. That's what it is. Oh, problems are. It's a Q&A sesh. It's a Q&A sesh. He's giving all the A's. They get all the Q's. Yep. That's what it is. Oh, my gosh. It's awesome. That guy has got the world by the fucking tail.
Starting point is 01:34:52 He's built up so many businesses. I guess his businesses are worth $6 billion. His businesses are worth $6 billion. He has been there, done that when it comes to businesses. Now he speaks in like 74 countries, self-helping the shit out of people it is wild to why did he play football somewhere he's a big dude i don't know he's a giant had to have he's a big dude at some point in his life i think he played football yeah but man this guy is crushing he when he claps he doesn't touch his hands together he doesn't want him i don't know what deal is he doesn't touch his hands together. I don't know what the deal is. He doesn't touch his hands.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Howie Mandel? He does like a handshake to the crowd to get their energy up at the beginning. And then he does clapping along, but he doesn't let his hands touch. I don't know. It was something I noticed early in the film, and it really freaked me out the whole time. I don't get how. So does he stay with them? Is it activities throughout the day? Is it people just come in and listen to him talk like what's the whole so yeah he goes up on it they go into
Starting point is 01:35:51 like little work like uh breakout groups where tony robbins has little mentors that go in there and talk to the people everybody when they sign up the 2500 people they give all the information about them so it's like he knows the possible red flags in the room he knows everything about everybody basically when they have them it's general admission though so everybody sprints in and tries to get to the front row of the concert you want to be front row at the concert for sure yeah get the most interaction but he literally they have breakout meetings and then they come back into the big room where he comes on the stage he does this thing before he goes on the stage every time like behind the scenes they have him backstage you know and he does like this little half spin move before
Starting point is 01:36:29 he goes pounds his chest and then goes on the stage it's awesome and he just goes out there for like four hours and just does q a's with people basically gets out in the crowd and just like it's insane changing lives does he have like workers with him that people will go out like when they branch out in groups yes are there other motivators oh yeah they're little tony robiners they're little tony robbins they're little tonies yeah they're tons yeah little tons little tons little tones taking them into their groups and they all do breakout things little tones setting the big tone if you will yeah they let the big tone know if there's anything going on so he's there from like 10 in the morning till 11 30 at night and as soon as he goes he goes right home they plan the next day with the little tones all the little tones around he plans the next day
Starting point is 01:37:14 goes to bed next morning wakes up does all this whole meditation thing at his house on palm beach looks like it could be 21 bedroom yeah looks like it it could be a 21 bedroom place on the ocean with this incredible pool view. It's amazing. Lil Tones are down at the Motel 6 down the road. I think they're definitely outside the gate. Lil Tones are outside the gate. He does his full meditation thing in the morning. Hops in an SUV backseat, by the way.
Starting point is 01:37:38 He's not driving. Nice. No. I'm at the point now where I'm not driving. Yeah, he's got to drive. He has a driver. I get car sick, by the way. I'm worried about that part of my life when I'm supposed to be driven,
Starting point is 01:37:46 whenever I get to that state of wealth, that it's going to be very difficult for me because I get car sick. Going to need a lot of Dramamine. Will somebody write that down? Fox, you write that down. When I get to the chauffeur stage, the chauffeur chapter, that I'm going to need Dramamine. On deck.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Stat. Thank you. So as soon as he gets out of his meditation thing, he showers, he gets in the back of an SUV. They arrive at this place. He gets out of the car, mic'd up, right onto the stage. Really?
Starting point is 01:38:15 Stephen A. Out of the, yes, Stephen A. Smith, exactly. Out of the car, mic'd up, goes to the back. They do like a quick, like as he's walking, they do like a, this is what happened this morning, this is what happened this morning this would happen this morning this happens morning he goes thank you
Starting point is 01:38:27 then he hits his little fake half spin move pounds his chest and then he's right out there just giving the love the energy to the people yeah i like the spirit finger hello by the way it's a it's a hand shit it's he shakes his hand rattles them it's like a right it's like he's got two rattles in his hands and he's rattling them open palm, though, at the crowd. I wonder if he can't clap because of his mic. That's what I'm thinking. I wonder if it peaks his mic. It's got to be.
Starting point is 01:38:52 But I haven't seen it, so I don't know how it looks. He needs to figure out a way to not clap the way he claps. The only negative thing I would say about Tony Robbins, the entire thing, is the way he claps. You know what you need to do? It freaked me out. You need to write a motivational paper on how to clap for him. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Because that's exactly what a motivator would need. A motivator who is getting motivated by another motivator. Who motivates the motivator? That's a great question. Well, he would have the answer. Well, my inner drive of not letting down the younger me who had big dreams is what he would say.
Starting point is 01:39:26 And then he would tell me to go fuck myself. Tony Robbins is the truth. My motivator is me tomorrow. That's who my motivator is. If we ever get a chance to have Tony Robbins in his building, I don't think we can afford it. We're going to have to be at least a medium-sized business. Okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:39:43 That's a massive step from a small business i that's what i'm saying though we would have to at least make our way to medium-sized business to get tony robbins in here goodness i think we definitely take take advantage of that opportunity imagine the private sessions he does get i bet like he's probably spoken at facebook oh google oh that's probably a million dollars to go do that. He's made so much money in his businesses that now he's just making money because he made money. He's making money to motivate himself to make money.
Starting point is 01:40:16 He can't stop it. He just keeps making money. 74 countries. He's a machine at this point. 74 countries he speaks in. He's got a place in Fiji, I guess he goes and speaks in Fiji. I don't know what the deal is. All these self-help people are leaving the country. Gary Vee went and did
Starting point is 01:40:30 something over in Bangkok or something like that. They pay him crazy money over there to do shit. You know, the whole Mayweather thing really was a bunch of rich people in Japan wanted a private three-round fight between those two.
Starting point is 01:40:47 So they were going to... And Mayweather even said, he's like, yeah, I thought they were offering me a gross amount of money to go over there and fight in front of 200 people. 200 rich people. That's what I was told. Right. So that happens all the time in other countries.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Like oil people. How do we get in there? Japanese. Boys. Just paying millions for dumb shit. We got to start doing our international appearances. We got to start raising our booker fee for international appearances. people how do we get in there japanese boys boys paying millions for dumb shit we gotta start doing our international appearances we gotta start raising our book fee for international appearances from now on none of us you included foxy awesome go to another country and speak
Starting point is 01:41:14 unless they're giving us a million dollars yes okay we've all decided that yep yep i wrote it down canada doesn't count neither does mexico yeah they're they're our neighbors it's the non north american countries we'll only take a million. Yeah. I think that's fair, by the way. I think that's a good policy, too. I think it's really cut it off geographically. Yeah, I think for us, we only take a million dollars. That seems right. If they're going to pay Conor a million dollars to go speak
Starting point is 01:41:35 in Bangkok, Conor goes and does it. I'll do it. Fine. A dollar less. $999,000? No way. See you next year. No chance. No thank you. You know what? I need you to find that extra thousand. Yeah. Because we're about 1,000? No way. See you next year. No thank you. You know what? I need you to find that extra $1,000. Yeah. Because we're about $1,000 short of what we need. That's the difference between old sweatpants me and new jeans me.
Starting point is 01:41:56 Speaking of. You're buying new jeans me. If this motivator comes in, you will see me in the worst outfit I have had on all year. I swear. I couldn't even fathom what Tony Robbins would do to this office. He would pick. It's like he's the John Taffer of humans. Shut it down.
Starting point is 01:42:12 That's a great way to put it. He's the John Taffer of humans is what he is. Everybody who asks a question at a seminar I watch for over two hours, I think they all regret asking a question. They ask a question with the hopes, I think, of it being somebody else's fault, whatever their problem is. Tony Robbins is not scared to bring that Thor hammer
Starting point is 01:42:30 right in your fucking face. No, no, this is 100% your fault. This is your fault. And that explains to you why. And he's like, are we trying to get better or not? Huh, fucker? Are we trying to get better or not? Huh, motherfucker?
Starting point is 01:42:41 Huh, motherfucker? He's like two inches away from their face, too, while he's saying this. Really? In this one shot. I like this guy. I'm very worried that it was staged because it got me right in my feels. It was about 2.30 a.m.
Starting point is 01:42:52 I was pre-vitamined up, you know? Naturally. And this guy said he wanted to kill himself to Tony Robbins. Tony Robbins turned it into basically your future. You haven't even started yet. Do you believe me? And the guy was like, yeah. He was like, do you fucking believe me or not?
Starting point is 01:43:11 And the guy was like, yeah. He's like, you know I wouldn't fuck around with you, right? And the guy, I'm like, Tony, this guy just said he wanted to kill himself. Now you're swearing in his face. Now you're swearing in this guy's face. Because Tony basically told him, yeah, you got a lot left in you. And then the guy was like, I don't know and then he Tony Robbins like oh I gotta kick this into high gear here I gotta start swearing at this guy so he gets it
Starting point is 01:43:31 through and then the guy smiled and he was like okay thank you he's like no problem and then Tony walks off yeah the rest of the crowd lifts that guy up on the shoulders like Rudy Tony Robbins does the point with the thumbs up off in the distance. It was like a real moment. I was like, this guy three minutes ago wanted to kill himself. And he gets sweared at by Tony Robbins and then now he's getting carried out like Rudy. This guy is awesome.
Starting point is 01:43:55 He can turn it on and save lives on demand. Probably when they went on break, went in the break off groups, he probably yelled at all his staff like, who let the fucking suicide case in here? By the way, there's a, no, they look for that. By the way, there's a whole meeting. They look for that. They look for the red flags. I think
Starting point is 01:44:10 that's how he found the guy. So is it like a note card kind of submission with your $49.50? I think it's a full pamphlet that you fill out. Some sort of questionnaire. $4,995. I think you're filling out a full pamphlet.
Starting point is 01:44:25 What's this guy's motto? It's got to be, I will change your life. No, I'm not your guru. That's what it is. I'm not your guru is the title of the Netflix thing. I'm not your guru. I'm just here to help you find you, basically. I'm in on Tony Robbins.
Starting point is 01:44:40 He's a guru while saying he's not your guru. Well, I think that's the point. Yeah, that's the point there. How about you? Hey, I just watched Don't Mess With The Zohan, so I'm very in between on guru talk, okay? Yeah, you're such a dummy. Hey, intellectual idiot, I think, is what it is.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Speaking of Tony Robbins, me, Diggs, and who? Zeke. Zeke had a Tony Robbins situation earlier. I was trying to lead the boys. Here it is. I love him. I love Tony Robbins. This guy's making $12.4 million in six days.
Starting point is 01:45:18 All I really liked him in Shallow How. Shallow How. I only really liked him in Shallow How. Shallow How. $12.4 million in six days. He's a guru. He's not your guru. No, I said he is a guru.
Starting point is 01:45:34 No, no. He's not your guru. That's actually what it's called. I'm not your guru. Tony Robbins. He goes, I'm not going to tell you where it works. We're going to figure it out together. That's what we're in this for Dicks
Starting point is 01:45:46 Don't fuck around with Tony Robbins I would never I would never even go talk to him I think I'm signing us all up for a Tony Robbins thing Because it's a lot of businesses sending their employees So I think I'm going to send you guys to a Tony Robbins thing The guy who made Winnie the Pooh What was that?
Starting point is 01:46:01 The guy who made Winnie the Pooh He's not getting in this fucking brain Your brain or Zito's brain? I don't think he'd get in either of ours What was that? The guy who made me wear the poo? He's not getting in this fucking brain. Your brain or Zito's brain? I don't think he'd get in either of ours. One in only 20 Rob, it's a real honor to have you here on Good Day, New York. So we started talking about CeCe Sabathia, who announced that he's an alcoholic. Yes.
Starting point is 01:46:22 We just started asking Tony about whether you drink or not, and let's pick up that conversation. So we found out you don't drink. I'm not against drinking in any way, yeah. But those who want that buzz, want that high, where else can they get it? What do you suggest? Well, we were just saying that, you know, both my parents were alcoholics, so it's not like I'm against drinking. It's just the way they behaved at that point was kind of abusive and kind of was very abusive, and so I didn't want to be part of that.
Starting point is 01:46:42 But we all want to be able to change the way we feel. That's what I spend my life showing people how to do. And what most people don't know is emotion is created by motion. The way you move determines the way you feel. You have 80 different muscles in your face, 80. For most people, this is the largest area of unemployment in the country. They use their face the same way. They feel the same emotions over and over and over again. So what I was saying is I have this deal with myself called priming. Every day I say, look, you've got to have 10 minutes for yourself. If you don't have 10 minutes for yourself, you don't have a life. And I'm not going to hope I feel good.
Starting point is 01:47:11 I just got back from six countries in 12 days. I was in India two days ago. I woke up here feeling like somebody ran me over with a truck. But you got yourself psyched up. But the way I do it is I do this process. It's 10 minutes. I put some music on. I do this massive change in my breathing so it radically changes the way I feel.
Starting point is 01:47:27 And then I do this three-step process. First, I do three minutes of gratitude where I think of three things I'm really grateful for. And I associate. I don't think of it over there. I feel it. And the reason is when you're grateful, you can't be worried. You can't be fearful. When you're grateful, you can't be angry.
Starting point is 01:47:42 And anger and fear are what screw people up most in their relationships, in their life, in their business. So I wire myself. I was saying to you that most people want to be happy, but their habit is to be worried or pissed off or frustrated or stressed. And so they've got a highway to stress, and they've got a dirt road to happiness. So I wire myself. I've got a highway to gratitude, which changes all your emotions. And then I do a three-minute process of kind of a prayer for my family and friends. And then I do a three-minute process of the top three things I want to accomplish.
Starting point is 01:48:09 I see it as done. That's nine minutes. I feel it. I'm done in ten minutes. And sometimes I go 20. But my deal is 10, so there's no excuse not to do it. You know what? I think it's a great way to kind of set the tone for the day.
Starting point is 01:48:18 It does. It changes. Listen, we've all had times when you snapped at somebody and you felt bad because it wasn't them. It was the state you're in, right? Well, there's no excuse for that. If you prime yourself, you set yourself up. They've done studies where they go to people and they have a man walk up to you and say, could you hold this for me? He hands you a cup of coffee.
Starting point is 01:48:35 It's an actor. And then he takes it out of his pocket. Then he takes it back and says, thank you. A hundred people, they do it with iced coffee. A hundred people do it with hot coffee. Forty-five minutes later, another actor comes by and says, listen, we're doing this little test. For $5, would you read this three paragraphs and answer three questions? Most people say yes.
Starting point is 01:48:53 It's a little story. The questions are about the character. What's the character like? 80% of the people that got iced coffee say the person is cold and mean. 81% of the people that got hot coffee say the person is cold and mean. 81% of the people that got hot coffee say the person is warm and gentle or nice. That's how much we can be primed by our environment. We think
Starting point is 01:49:11 we're just feeling what we're feeling, but our environment, if we don't take control of our environment, it takes control of us. He watches Bull way too much. And he's cut from the same cloth. It's pretty easy not to be fucking angry or worried when you make fucking $12 million a week, Tony. I can't relate to this motherfucker or anything he says.
Starting point is 01:49:29 Can't do it. Can't do it. Life's easy when you're that fucking rich. Hashtag end game. Hashtag end game. Send me a photo of what you would buy if you made $12.4 million in six days. Have an incredible Tuesday. You're the best.
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