The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 022 - Colts General Manager Chris Ballard

Episode Date: November 15, 2018

On today's show, Pat is joined by the GM of the Indianapolis Colts, Chris Ballard, for an incredible conversation. They discuss his thoughts on the Colts' season thus far, whether or not he will be go...ing after certain free agents and when that process starts, his thoughts on Josh McDaniels leaving the Colts hanging at the last second and why he couldn't be happier with Frank Reich, and his thoughts on Quenton Nelson's viral pancake block. (10:57-30:08). Digs also joins the show to give a couple of thoughts about the NFL as we get ready for week 11, he gives out his Thursday night pick, and laughs at the Bengals for bringing in Hue Jackson. Todd pops in to do a deep dive into El Chapo's upcoming trial in New York and gives some background on how law enforcement agencies approach that entire situation. Lastly, Zito and Connor stop in to give an update on The Pub to discuss their recent renovations, and talk about Pat's trip to LA. It's a good one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:50 they've had our back the entire time uh beat pat mcafee today at 1 p.m 1 p.m eastern standard time 10 a.m pacific time i am playing lamar odom at horse in ven Beach, California. Billy Hoyle versus Lamar Odom. Horse will be broadcasting it live. I cannot wait for that conversation. I cannot wait for that conversation with Lamar Odom. Who knows what's going to come out of my mouth? I have a lot of questions for that guy. He's got a book coming out too.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Really? I think he has his, I don't want to say his stories. He's been thinking about a lot of things in his life because he has a memoir coming out. And when you do that, you think about your life a lot. So when I ask questions to him, which I assume will happen mid-horse game. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:32 By the way, my bookie has no faith in me. Yeah. I'm at plus 700 to win. I already hammered you, actually. Did you? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if you should do that, but I don't appreciate the lack of faith that they...
Starting point is 00:03:45 Now granted, they say if you can shoot a basketball, you can always shoot a basketball. Yes. It's not like you're going to lose it. Right. Lamar Odom, sixth man of the year a couple times, NBA champion, had a hell of a career before the reality TV show all started.
Starting point is 00:03:57 He was a hell of a baller. He can't dunk, right? We can't do dunking. No, no dunking in horse. Only jumpers. Hey, Lamar. Hey, Lamar. You can't just be we can't do dunking no no no dunking in horse only jumpers hey lamar hey lamar you can't just be doing windmill dunks we're gonna get another hoop out here for me one that is uh what's that called lowered in relation like uh in ratio to his size my size the hoop uh proportion proportion there we go properly proportioned to my size, Lamar. I'm excited for it. I think he's going to be a really good guy too.
Starting point is 00:04:26 My bookie texted me. Mybookie.ag texted me. Yep. Because we're supposed to do the Ikea thing. Oh, yeah. I was supposed to build an Ikea thing, which he's really excited about because he knows that I am not a... Craftsman.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I'm not a craftsman. Right. I'm not a handyman. I'm not here to build stuff. Okay? I'm here to see stuff be built. That's what I like doing. I respect the art of building things.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I'm not a craftsman. Absolutely. But they know it. I killed them last week on bowling. So he was like, yep, going to have you build something next week. We'll see how you fare. And I want to try to figure it out. This past weekend, Sam and I built some chairs.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Sam and I built some chairs. There you go. Yeah, so I can get the Phillips head screwdriver in there work and get the wrist open up a little bit just in case I had to do it but we're going to California I forgot we're going to be in California for the WWE NXT TakeOver Saturday night 615 turning a pre-show
Starting point is 00:05:16 into the show and then war games after that that pay-per-view is going to be ridiculous there's a lot of cages there's a lot of people that hate each other there's a lot of motion it's going to be awesome. There's a lot of cages. There's a lot of people that hate each other. There's a lot of motion. It's going to be awesome. I'm going to have a good time. I got a good fit coming, too. I feel real good about my fit that I'm wearing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:32 You've been spot on with those. Thank you. I appreciate that. The red bow tie was a little aggressive because I am a red-faced human, so that's just setting myself up for failure. But this one we should be good. I was like, yo, I'm going to be in L.A. I completely forgot I'm going to be out there. I think I'm going to be on Rich Eisen's show tomorrow, too. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:05:46 For an hour. Again, Rich is the nicest man of all time. One of your best one's interviews yet. He's just, Rich is a good show host, and he's a good guy. To give up an entire hour of a show for me to be there with him is so nice of him. And he seems to get you. He does. Very much.
Starting point is 00:06:03 He's followed the Twitter for a while, so he gets it. And it's very, I'm honored and thankful that he does that. But the MyBookie people were like, oh, you're going to be in Los Angeles? I don't know if we can send the Ikea thing to you, but I think Omar Odom is also promoting our stuff. I was like, what do you mean you think? He's always tweeting about us. I don't know. I assume we have a deal with him.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And he was like, let me send a couple texts, and I'll be right back to you. And like two minutes later, he was like, yep you mean you think he's like he's always tweeting about us i don't know i assume he we have a deal with him and he was like let me uh send a couple texts and i'll be right back to you in like two minutes later he's like yep lamar's in what do you want to do i was like uh i don't know what he's like how about you play horse against lamar and uh i get all my money back is what he said and i was like okay yeah let's do it he was like perfect we set up it was supposed to be in inglewood originally and i'm not not sure. I just know Inglewood from songs. Inglewood. It's historic. Yeah. Paul George, I think, is from there.
Starting point is 00:06:51 So it got moved to Venice Beach, though, because of the whole Billy Hoyle situation. And I guess there'll be people around. So they want a little bit of that going on. So it's me and Lamar Odom, one-on-one, horse. I hammered you to give him at least one letter. I think you can give him one letter, and the odds were pretty freaking good. I know. I'll go like granting shot from the foul line or something. Yeah, something.
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Starting point is 00:09:39 They're pretty good, too. Really good. They were in the Final Four. Yeah, very good when you were there. When I was there. Sweet 16, Elite 8. They were a really good team. I was friends with the guys right but to get in at those times you had to go in this line for like three hours before the game for student tickets
Starting point is 00:09:51 yeah and i was too small on the totem pole the football team to get in there and sit anywhere else so i was like man i i'm fans and friends with those guys but there's no way i'm going to wait in a three-hour line to get into this building. We got a lot of drink specials going on right now. There's a lot of, I got homework, obviously. I'm a student athlete. So I never went. I went to that Oklahoma State-Michigan game, and I loved it.
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Starting point is 00:11:47 of the show, and right now, his Indianapolis Colts look absolutely majestic on Sundays. The general manager of your Indianapolis Colts, Chris Ballard! But it's probably more than I deserve, that's for sure, but thanks for having me on um it's not right now your team is hot right now you one in five at the beginning of the season then you rattle off
Starting point is 00:12:14 three straight victories things have to be feeling pretty good at the indianapolis colts facility mr ballard you know it's it's funny because we and frank and i talk about this and i know frank talks with the team and we talk with the staff is that just i mean you know from being in this league it is such a week-to-week league and people react either negatively or positively over the top either way no matter what happens on sunday and, you know, Frank and both of us have a mindset just we reset every week. You reset, you know, at every point. And even when we were 1-5, I didn't feel like we were a 1-5 team, but we just talked about every week let's just reset,
Starting point is 00:12:57 no matter what happened on Sunday, and let's keep getting better. Let's just keep working to get better. Let's keep working the plan that we have in place, keep helping our players, do the best they can do, be the best players they can be, to be the best men they can be in every area, and keep working. And that's kind of the mindset we have now. Well, I think that's a very good mindset because I, which I'm assuming a lot of guys, our happiness, we're slaves literally to wins and losses in the NFL. Every single week, winning cures all. Winning is happiness.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Whenever you get on that losing stride there, one and five at the beginning, now you're on a winning streak, it's incredible that you're able to keep that positive spin on it with Frank. Do you feel like Jim Irsay has some patience in what you and Frank are building? Do you think he sees the vision of what you have in place and what's cooking? There's no doubt that he, I mean,
Starting point is 00:13:47 all this great success that this place has had, you know, even, even, you know, through Bill Pullian. And when Ryan was here those first few years where, where Mr. Ursa is. And I agreed. I remember interviewing, when I interviewed for the job, I said, I don't want to take a bandaid approach. I want, Agreed. I remember interviewing when I interviewed for the job, I said, I don't want to take a bandaid approach. I want I want guys to that are Colts that we've drafted, that we've brought in, that we've developed, that are tied to this organization, that are tied to this community. Much like how you came in. Yes, sir. You are you are an original Colt and you're you're you are in this community and and into this community.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And I want our players to be that. And I think when guys come in together, they grow together. They go through the hardships. They go through the hard times. And that just creates a strong bond and brotherhood that that locker room needs. And I think he is absolutely all in on that aspect. In preseason, I got a chance to talk to you and Frank and T.Y. at training camp. And I asked you, because at that point,
Starting point is 00:14:52 Lev Bell was liking every Instagram post. Khalil Mack was on the market. I said, you have $50-some million to spend, Chris. Will you go after any big names? You said that you would like to build the culture first with the young guys. I want to get the culture established so that when guys come in, they can fit in. With Darius Leonard, the way he's been playing, the way Luck is.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Quentin Nelson, we'll talk about that lunatic here in a little bit, but do you feel as if the culture is being built in that building, one that you absolutely like? I see videos from inside the locker room. The team seems to really like each other. Everything seems to be looking great on the field. Is the culture going in the manner that you absolutely like? I see videos from inside the locker room. The team seems to really like each other. Everything seems to be looking great on the field. Is the culture going in the manner that you expected and that you want? Well, I think, and, you know, I've talked to the team about this, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:36 and during training camp, right when we started training camp, and I know Frank talks about it, but you can, you know, we can do everything we want internally in terms of nutrition, strength, recovery, training room, coaching. They can be all high level, but at the end of the day, the locker room drives the train. It does. The locker room drives the train, and they have to be able to police each other, and they have to be able to police each other and they have to be able to hold each other accountable. And they can't, they can't let anything that gets in the way of winning, getting in and it can't tolerate anything that gets in the way of winning.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And I think that mindset is starting to come on and, and look over time, you know, when guys play together and they go through the ups and downs together, I think they do start to get that bond that you have to have. And it's one of the great things about the locker room. I mean, they all come from different backgrounds, different races, different religions. But that's the great thing about the locker room is they're all accepting of
Starting point is 00:16:40 one another. It doesn't mean they all have to like each other and be best friends, but they all have to have respect and also both all have to have the same goal, and that's winning. At the end of the day, that's winning and being the best they can be, and they have to push each other. And I think, I mean, it's been fun to watch. We have a good group of young players in here,
Starting point is 00:16:59 and we also have some veteran players that I think have really done a nice job showing the way. I mean, it's one of the things I really respect about Adam Vinatieri. Adam Vinatieri shows these young guys exactly what a pro is, what you have the greatest kicker of all time in your building. To watch him work on a daily basis and to watch how he prepares, that's influence, and he has a great influence. So it's fun to watch. The culture is fun to watch as well. All right. and watch how he prepares, that's influence. And he has a great influence.
Starting point is 00:17:26 So it's fun to watch. The culture is fun to watch. All right. I got to ask you. You drafted Quentin Nelson in the first round. You sent a message to Colts fans everywhere. You sent a message to Andrew Luck. Listen, the years of you getting ragtagged are done.
Starting point is 00:17:48 The years of you needing surgeries on top of surgeries and a pitch count are done. It's my job to protect you. So not only with Quentin Nelson, but that offensive line is on a historic rate right now for giving up sacks. They're not giving up any of them. Did you see the clip of him yelling like Bobby Boucher, like a lunatic turning the corner and killing Barry Church.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And how has that offensive line come together so well and so beautifully? Well, look, I'll give a lot of credit to our staff, number one. Frank and Gouge both have done it, and Bobby Johnson have all done a tremendous job of instilling a system and putting a system that I think is quarterback friendly and helps him get the ball out of his hands. But number two, the one thing Gouge has done a great job with that group is making them understand that it's all five of them, how they prepare together. We have the most talent in the world, but all five of them have to play together.
Starting point is 00:18:40 they prepare together. We can have the most talent in the world, but all five of them have to play together. And, you know, between Costanzo and Nelson and Ryan Kelly and Glowinski and Braden Smith, those five coming together and playing as a unit, I mean, one of them can be off a little bit and it screws up the whole unit. And it's one of the great things I really like about Nelson.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I mean, I know with the tweet and the individual plays, but I think the world needs to understand and our fans need to understand is this kid is as good a teammate. He's all about team. He's all about the O-line. He doesn't want the spotlight on him because there's other guys. I think Ryan Kelly's playing at an extremely high level. I think Costanzo's playing at a very high level coming back from the injury.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Glowinski's been a very pleasant surprise. I mean, we ended up keeping 10 linemen, and we kept Glowinski because we thought he could play and help as we got into the season. And then Braden Smith, I wish I could have told you I thought he was a right tackle coming out. I thought he was going to be a guard, like he'd be a really good guard, but he's ended up playing really good at right tackle. And I give credit to Morocco Brown, who was one of the scouts that scouted him, and Gooch both thought he could be a right tackle. But watching those five come together and play together, that's winning football.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And we've said it from the start, Pat, I mean, it starts, we're going to build from inside out. That's how this team's going to be built. And I think when you get your foundation set and they're strong, and you get good quarterback play, you build in around the rest of it as you go along, that's going to win football games over the long haul. You win every game in the trenches, whether you like it or not. It's either on the offensive line or defensive line.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's the way it goes. It doesn't matter how much football changes. The trenches are a big deal. So you're going to just act and not say anything about the guy you drafted in the first round? Pulling and screaming like a madman and then burying a guy until the guy actually lets out a fuck
Starting point is 00:20:37 sigh at the end of the play? Did you see that? You had to have watched it. I have to be honest with you. I've heard I'd be interested to know if it was exactly accurate, the screaming part from it. I know the block was accurate. Without question, I know the block was very accurate. Is this fake news?
Starting point is 00:20:56 I stay off of Twitter, to be quite honest with you, Matt. You're missing it. We love it over there. Quentin Nelson is a legend right now across all nfl locker rooms and on the internet for that huge hit and i think i don't know if you took any heat for drafting him in the first round because it was a notre dame guy so it's indiana but i think your vision is really coming together right now it has to feel pretty good for old chris ballard well look you're only all it takes is one bad Sunday, and Chris Ballard stinks again.
Starting point is 00:21:27 So I kind of get the ups and downs of it. I kind of just roll with day-to-day, Pat. God damn it, Chris Ballard sucks again. We won three in a row, now we lost a game, this fucking guy. That would be hilarious. That would be so funny man do you um do you talk to like neighbors in indiana like do you just live in your own little bubble with your family like what do you do you go to work and just stay in with your family or do you have conversations with outsiders no i i get out um i'm not, the one thing about me is I'm not scared to show up when it's not good
Starting point is 00:22:07 because I know it doesn't bother me. I don't mind asking questions. I mean, I know the direction we're going. So I'm out in public. You know what one of my favorite things to do on game day is? And I've just always gone. The last few weeks I've gone out and visited with the Blue Crew, the tailgate group, for the game.
Starting point is 00:22:25 And that group is freaking awesome. I mean, they are rocking from 8 o'clock in the morning on and getting ready to roll, man. So I go out and I love seeing our fans. I think we've got great fans in this state. And, look, it's easy to show up when you're winning, but you've got to show up all the time. You've got to be honest and can't be scared to show up when things aren't quite uh rosy that's a smart move by the way you
Starting point is 00:22:50 going out there mingling a little bit becoming a little bit more of a human sided than in just general manager i think we need to get the stadium a lot louder i don't know how you're going to do that i was in there the other day kick kicking for the grandpa you need to get that stadium a little bit louder yeah that so when you when you win you give people some excitement you know some excitement to cheer for that gets it that gets it nice and loud uh have you i know you're in the moment i know the football season is a grind i know that but your job is to look out for the future of the indianapolis colts you've said the culture needs to be built before you bring anybody in. You have a big bank coming up, a big purse coming up with an owner that is not scared
Starting point is 00:23:33 to send a plane all over the country to fly people in to potentially be an Indianapolis Colt. Have you had your eyes peeled or had any scouts looking around for possible free agents or for people that could possibly fit into the Indianapolis Colts? Well, are you worried about this year? You'll figure that out in the off season. No, we'll start meeting in December. I bought, you know, every week I take a day. Um, I'm usually two days a week I'm watching college or I'll go to games. I didn't one day a week I'll watch, you know, potential free agents for next year. And, you
Starting point is 00:24:03 know, we'll always base it on and I've said this a bunch, Pat, that people don't win games in March. You just don't. Just because you go and sign a big ticket free agency. I think you've played on teams where you've signed big ticket guys.
Starting point is 00:24:19 It doesn't guarantee wins when you get to September. So you have to find the right fit for the player. He's got to be the right fit for the culture. He's got to be the right fit for the city. A lot of things have to fall in place. And I know people get excited when you sign a guy that you think,
Starting point is 00:24:38 oh, this is going to be the one missing piece that gets us over the hump. But I said this about Andrew. It's not about one guy. It's about all 63 of them, and we've got to make sure we're always getting the right fit for the player. And look, as these young guys continue to progress in their careers and they become very good players and their contracts are up, we're not going to lose them.
Starting point is 00:25:03 So that money will evaporate faster than people think. That cap space will evaporate faster than people think whenever you start handing out contracts to your own people. I mean, you want your own players to know when they do the right things, when they're good pros, when they're working, when they're adding value to that locker room, we're going to take care of them. We're going to make them coach for a long time. And what I don't want to do is be in a situation
Starting point is 00:25:26 where we have spent money foolishly on players that have earned it somewhere else and then we bring in. That's a slippery slope and you got to be very careful. I think that's probably the smart way to build a team if I had to guess right there. I feel like you sounded very intelligent in that answer, Chris, because I was hoping-
Starting point is 00:25:45 That might have been the only, and that doesn't happen very often, Pat. So you make sure you replay that a bunch. Hey, Chris Ballard sucks again. Okay, so Josh McDaniels told you to go fornicate yourself. They flew. He flew.
Starting point is 00:26:07 He was on a plane to Indianapolis, and he turned around back to New England. You got Frank Reich out of the deal, and Frank Reich answered in a press conference my question that the backup role has suited him well. He seems, this is just from the outside in because I haven't seen him inside, but the videos I watch,
Starting point is 00:26:23 he seems like such a natural head coach. How has this first season been going with Frank? You know what's fun? Because he's not a backup, that's for sure. Yeah, amen. He's not at all. You know what's fun? And every head coach I've been around in this league that I think is right.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I mean, like I was with Lovie Smith. Andy Reid, he's off the charts unbelievable. And I put Frank right there. They're very comfortable in their own skin. They don't worry. They know what they believe in. They're going to work the plan, and they have a great deal of confidence in themselves to get it done.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And I think it plays in the locker room. You know, when you are who you are and you don't try to change who you are on a daily basis players players respect that i mean they they have great respect for guys that are the same guy so i hey look i think it it works out it always works out the way it's supposed to i feel very fortunate uh to be able to work with frank as our head coach and it's fun to come to work every day the internet and the locker room are very similar with two things is that you can sense any fake if something isn't
Starting point is 00:27:29 genuine internet can tell in the locker room can tell so I think that is Frank Reich every video I've seen it seems as if he's just so he knows what he wants to do he's not rah-rah it's not crazy rah-rah it looks like the rest of the locker room respects him too while he's talking if you look around the the locker room after games, you look at the players, it looks like they respect him. It looks like you guys got something really special cooking over there, Chris. I'm proud of you, buddy. He's just honest.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I mean, what's wrong? You know, people, this is what it is. He's just honest. He's the same guy every day. And I think players respect honesty. When you just tell them, good or bad, if you just give them an honest answer and then you help them get better, that's winning football. That's what the good head coach is doing this league.
Starting point is 00:28:16 All right, so you're going to sign Lev Bell or no? Who? He's a rapper. He's a rapper. He used to be on the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's a local he's a rapper he used to be on the pittsburgh steelers he's a local rapper levion bell uh you guys are number one odds on favor chris just something to think about i think it's something to think about i don't know who that guy is all right chris good luck on the rest of the year i'm telling you as a colts fan which am, every single week watching your team grow and watching kind of your strategy and your ideas come together.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I mean, you guys took some beatings there earlier, one in five. I'm sure there was a lot of noise outside that locker room telling you that you were an idiot, and yet you had a lot of money to spend. You could have built things up, but you had a patience, you had a vision, and it's all coming together, Chris. I'm very, very happy for you, man. I appreciate it, brother, and I appreciate you, man. You going to be at the game Sunday?
Starting point is 00:29:09 No, dog. I'm in Los Angeles. Where are you going? I'm in Los Angeles for WWE. Oh, that a boy. I know, Chris. Chris, that's where I'm supposed to be, I think. I think I'm supposed to be there.
Starting point is 00:29:20 But I did come to a game when you guys crushed Buffalo, and it was so cool to be back in that building. I'm going to have to make a habit out of coming back. When are you tailgating again? When's your next tailgate? I know, I know. We've got to set up a big one, don't we? You've got to get one.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I'll come out. Okay. And then if you can keep it rocking until after the game, it'd be even better for me. Maybe I'll do a post-game tailgate because there's nothing really like that. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. I can actually have fun if you do that.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Yeah. See, and get a win, too, because you guys are on this winning streak. So get a win in the stadium. Come out afterwards. We have a band playing, maybe a DJ, a couple drinks. Keep it moving. Yeah, we should do that. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Okay, we'll make that happen. You Southern boys, you guys like just that heavy beer, I assume. All right, brother, be good. You got it. Hey, thanks for everything. And also, congrats on the success. It's really cool to watch you guys. Andrew Luck running out of bounds instead of trying to run over people,
Starting point is 00:30:23 by the way, really good stuff. That's all on him, man. He's getting smart. He's always been smart, but now he's getting smart with his body. That's good. We don't need him dying anymore. Chris, thank you so much. Good luck. I can't wait to watch this Colts team win a Super
Starting point is 00:30:38 Bowl in a couple years. Alright, brother. Be good. Cheers. I love Chris Ballard. It feels like he's very open and Chris Ballard. He's very, it feels like he's very open and genuine about everything. He's the most down to earth guy you would ever meet. Like you would never think, that guy's the GM of an NFL team.
Starting point is 00:30:55 How about him just walking around the parking lot at tailgates? Just like, yeah, my, my new thing has been, I just kind of go out into the parking lot with all the fans who, who normally probably say terrible things about you. Just walking around partying and tailgate he's a good guy yeah smooth the josh mcdaniel's line i'm happy he answered
Starting point is 00:31:10 that i put it on him there a little bit i did not think about it i i think they're building something really good too i he would they were very confident in training camp whenever i talked to frank chris ty venetary everybody that stopped over there very confident in what they were building and now i think they're starting to see signs of success. That's got to feel real good. Well, they got Ebron catching touchdowns, so they're doing something right. Never seen it in my life. The Lions couldn't do it, huh, Foxy?
Starting point is 00:31:36 No. The Lions just couldn't do it. Good for him, a little rebirth in Indianapolis. Good for him. I like Chris a lot, man. Yeah, very good. Very nice of him to come in. Great guy.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Diggs at D-I-G-Z just joined us. What up, Diggsie? I think he's doing a great job there. I hope he's not the one responsible for pumping fake noise into internet videos. Oh, my God. He said it. He did. He alluded.
Starting point is 00:31:56 So our conversation with Chris Ballard happened before it came out that that video, that Quentin Nelson was fake. So he alluded to it to us that the sounds were fake. And I just laughed it off. I just laughed it off because I didn't think it was possible. I was like, that video is too good. I don't want to believe it. I'm just going to keep it moving.
Starting point is 00:32:16 So then when it comes out, it came out like probably 45 minutes after our interview with Chris Bauer that that video was fake. It came out after that. I'm mind blown by it i don't know because there's no way they expect it to go that big no there's no way they're like you know what this is gonna go very very viral so let's make sure it's fake so we can send it off and i don't know that might have been a miscommunication too of like who made the video versus who posted the video. It seems like that type of thing.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Maybe it was meant to be a joke and something happened. But, boy, that's a tough look for an NFL team, Diggs. Yeah. I mean, part of me is like the video would have been fine by itself without it because it was such just an awesome play. The pancake was insane. But also the other side of me is like the side of me that doesn't give a fuck and is like, oh, if you want to add that to your video just to make it a little bit better, I'm fine with that too. And it's the internet. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Which, I mean, granted, what I think they should have done, and I haven't said this to the Colts, but I think they should add that scream to like a Peyton Manning play. Like they should have came out and like they should have followed up with it. play when Peyton like they should have came out and like they should have followed up with it add that screaming sound like when Peyton was on a bootleg run added to like when Reggie Wayne caught a touchdown in the Super Bowl against the Bears like all the Kelvin Hayden like I think they should have put that scream on all the big plays in Colts history and then just kind of move on if the caption would have said like what we think Quentin Nelson sounded like during this play yeah but I I wonder if they even knew like I wonder you quentin nelson sounded like during this play yeah but i i wonder
Starting point is 00:33:45 if they even knew like i wonder you gotta think about big companies like he's posting things like for instance nick posts something on our instagram i don't even know what nick is posting because it's like nick's job is literally to handle the social media so it's like nick your job is to do this and granted should i keep up with it every single time you post yeah i should that's something i should do as as my name being on the business. But it's like you're trusting somebody to do a job. You're empowering people to do a job. I wonder if the social media person even knew that that was fake.
Starting point is 00:34:15 She's probably not a video editor. I'd assume she's not doing the 4K video shoot too. I just wonder what happened. They could have never guessed it went crazy like that. Well, and I'm sure she was like, okay, you know, you need to get this out as soon as possible after it happened. Like, you gotta make sure that it's gonna go, so you don't have time to really...
Starting point is 00:34:34 Bro, it went too. I respect Quentin for not being like, yeah, that was me. Like, no, I wasn't screaming like a fucking idiot during the play. Well, if you heard me and AQ's conversation about it, AQ was like, yeah, everybody's calling him a fucking lunatic. The NFL's like, bro, you're screaming like that while you're me and AQ's conversation about it, AQ was like, yeah, everybody's calling him a fucking lunatic. The NFL's like, bro, you're screaming like that while you're blocking people. It was a hell of a block, though.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Yeah. Hell of a block. He's very good. Speaking of a block, on Monday Night Football, we just got completely cock-blocked by the San Francisco 49ers, and somehow Eli Manning resurgence. I don't know what we did. I still think we were on the right side of that pick.
Starting point is 00:35:06 The over hit, okay? And the 49ers were winning the entire game. The 49ers over did not hit. I did not take that. I took the over. Well, then there's a miscommunication. There's a miscommunication. I took the San Francisco 49ers over, which was 24.
Starting point is 00:35:19 We were only 20 yards away from hitting that, too. Oh, my God. And then if they score that touchdown with no time left they only end up winning by two anyway so we don't even have them but they would have went the over so it would have split i was very and then nick mullins is telling people to stay off the field because he thinks it's a pass interference i'm sitting there in my bed like jumping up like pass interference in the end zone we're on the one pass interference on the end zone and then the ref's like uh no holding on the offense and i'm like nick mullins what the
Starting point is 00:35:43 fuck are you doing you got my heart broken over here. Shanahan said that he is still going to be the quarterback until he says otherwise. So poor CJ. I think Mullins is good. Yeah, I like CJ Beathard, too. I like both of them, actually. Nick Mullins, though, this is his first time playing, right? I mean, Beathard, too, I guess.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Did Beathard get hurt? Yeah, yeah. That's why he came in. Wally Pipp. Yep, yep. It's tough. Well, it happened to Jimmy G. He got Wally Pipped by CJ Beathard, who was losing game show.
Starting point is 00:36:10 See how handsome he still looked in the crowd? Yeah, up there with his, he had a bomber jacket on. Yeah, yeah. Up there in the suite. And then you saw his friend actually tell him that we're on TV right now, and they started smiling halfway through it. Good, good self-awareness. Is it weird that he's not on the sideline?
Starting point is 00:36:24 Not with a torn ACL, is it? I mean, it's been a while since he tore that ACL. You know what? That is a very interesting thing, at least with an earpiece in. Yeah, or at least, like, just, I don't know. You would think if Brady was at a Patriots game in the suite instead of on the sideline, wouldn't that be a little weird? I think people would attack Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Yeah, I found that weird on Friday. Like, Pete, go down there with your teammates. Watch the game on the sideline. I didn't even think about that, because there's probably something he could help with. Yeah. That found that weird on Friday. Like, Pete, go down there with your teammates. Watch the game on the sideline. I didn't even think about that because there's probably something he could help with. Yeah. That's like when Peyton was hurt. They didn't have him go into games. And then he went to one game and he stood like right in front of the offensive coordinator
Starting point is 00:36:55 and called plays basically for Curtis Painter right down the field and scored. I'm like, yo, why doesn't why don't we do? Hey, Peyton, why don't we do this every weekend? I know you got a very bad neck and you're probably going through a lot of rehab but i would also like to not be miserable i would also like to not be completely defeated here so like that happened against i think it was the bangles he we're at in cincinnati and he's calling signals to curtis painter and curtis is like i i don't know if peyton said he was going to do it or what happened but he just steps up starts calling signals and then he's looking up at
Starting point is 00:37:28 the jumbotron peyton's like looking up at the jumbotron and he's like okay boom boom boom let's do this and we literally walked right down the field and scored and i was like that might be the first touchdown we scored all year and then something happened where either he had another round of rehab like he was getting rehab on that neck very very it was a huge because that was a career situation and he he leaving i'm like i feel like we should try to get that guy that just walked out of here with that neck and the forehead like i think we should have him try to maybe potentially call plays every weekend that'd be good for everybody if that could happen so there has to be something that the starting quarterback can do on the sideline i agree with that but who
Starting point is 00:38:02 knows how healthy his knee is you don't want somebody to roll up on you either. Yeah, I guess you're right. You know what I mean? I didn't think about that. What are some other NFL news? You brought up the Bengals. Yeah, yeah. Our boy Hugh lives on. He's brought in as special assistant to the head coach, Hugh Jackson.
Starting point is 00:38:18 So did you see the quote this morning? Somebody tweeted that a Browns player has compared, on the record, Hugh Jackson to Michael Scott. Good, Hugh Jackson to Michael Scott. Good. Hugh Jackson to Michael Scott. They have compared him to that. And now Marvin Lewis has hired him to help somehow. Not even the offense.
Starting point is 00:38:36 So Hugh's been an offensive coach his entire career. He's going to help on the defensive side. He's going to help Marvin on the defensive side. Well, the interesting – what? Oh, yeah, yeah. Because isn't he saying that he wanted to take over the reins on the offense with todd haley because that's what he was a good coach in the nfl right his entire career he said that there's a reason why i was hired as a head coach it's not like it's not like i forgot how to coach offense is what he said he actually said that and now marvin yes he's like no no no we got an idea for you well they've
Starting point is 00:39:03 given up like 500 yards in the last four games at their last in the league in passing yards and total yards. Bengals defense is terrible. So they brought in you to help. That seems like the right guy to bring in, an offensive expert, because he can tell you what the offense is looking for. Can he, though? We don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:16 He wanted to tell Todd Haley all this stuff. And they just fired their defensive coordinator. So who knows? Maybe Hugh becomes defensive coordinator. Marvin Lewis and Hugh Jackson. Jeez. What? The Bengals don't deserve this?
Starting point is 00:39:27 Hey, the Bengals don't deserve this. The city of Cincinnati does not. I think it's the Emerald City. Nope. The Jewel City? That sounds right. I think it might have been Emerald. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I went to Cincinnati once a year, too. So it's like this is something I should know for like the last 10 years. I'm going to find this out. Queen City? Queen City. Queen City. There it is. The Queen City.
Starting point is 00:39:52 The Queen City does not deserve this. They do not deserve adding 36 L's to their coaching roster. Apparently Seattle's the Emerald City. And it was also the city in The Wizard of Oz. That's why. Six L's to their coaching roster. Apparently Seattle's the Emerald City. And it was also the city in the Wizard of Oz. That's why. I've seen Wizard of Oz so many times. That's probably where it's from.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I love that. You have to love that. Yes. Marvin Lewis, what is this, 15 or 16 years, hasn't had a playoff win. Unbelievable that he's now that he hired Hugh on the defensive side, he's like god fire me see go ahead fire he's he's teasing them you think he's trolling the bangles right now i think he is so like his next sign is gonna be like um he's gonna bring in like some high school some high school fucking like defensive guru to run the offense. Speaking of great ideas, did you see the tweet going?
Starting point is 00:40:48 It was kind of a viral tweet going around that NFL teams for the goal line need to hire little people. Oh, my God. And they just need to put two huge offensive linemen in the backfield, and they'll hike it to the little person, and they just throw them like 10 feet in the air over the goal line
Starting point is 00:41:00 so it's a touchdown every time. By the way, by the way, it doesn't just have to be goal line. This can be third and one. Oh, yeah. You just got to cross the plate. No, but this can be third and one on your own 20.
Starting point is 00:41:11 This can be third and two probably on your own 15. Yeah. And it doesn't have to be an offensive lineman. I respect the fact that they said offensive lineman. Sometimes your D linemen are the strongest people. Oh, yeah, yeah, whoever. You just need two strongest people on the team. Get back there.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And the little person runs as if it's like a cheerleader camp, right? Runs up in there, one leg on the thigh, left leg up into a hand, two hands, and then it's a basket toss, probably four or five yards. At least. He's got to work on landing like a WWE wrestler. That's all he's got to do, work on landing flat on his back. I'm just worried poor little guy is going to be in the air. Just take an absolute shot and that'll be the end of him.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Oh, you think they're not going to get him high enough. It's going to be fourth quarter. They're a little tired. He's going to come down at some point. I'm saying when he comes. Oh, you're saying people are going to be timing his arrival? Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Get the first down, but your boy's going to die. I don't know if you can hit somebody anymore in the NFL like that. If he's a runner. Could you imagine the rules committee? No, the rules committee have like an emergency meeting like they did with the headshot thing. They're like, what do we do about the little people? What do we do about the little
Starting point is 00:42:16 people falling from the sky? Are they allowed to hit the little people? No, they can't hit the little people, right? We're trying to save concussions. I mean, Kansas City should just try this with Tyreek Hill. No. In LA. The game got moved to LA. I mean, Kansas City should just try this with Tyreek Hill. No. In L.A. The game got moved to L.A. I know. I might be there. Oh, that's right. Really? Foxy, we might be...
Starting point is 00:42:32 There's a chance we go to that game. I'll change it now, but later when we were going to do quick hits, one of my it'd be a real shame if you two didn't go to Kansas City Chiefs for us to L.A. L.A. Rams when we're in the city and we could possibly be there. Okay, so we have to go.
Starting point is 00:42:46 You have to try to at least go for a little or something. It feels as if we have to attempt to go to this. Awesome. I mean, that's two one-loss teams. Sam's going to kill me. AFC leader, NFC leader. We have to go. Best game of the year so far.
Starting point is 00:43:02 It's for your job. Game of the year. It's in Los Angeles, too? Yeah. We just happen to. It's for your job. Game of the year. It's in Los Angeles too? Yeah. We just happened to be there. Fucking the world. Sorry, the universe made it so. The universe and Shakira made it so that the game was back in LA.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Shakira, Shakira. Monday night though, you might have to leave at like 11 a.m. Oh, I forgot it was Monday. I forgot it was Monday. It is Monday night. Are you going to be coming back on Monday or are you still going to be there? Well, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:43:28 We're in there on... Oh, so just stay an extra day. That's the thing. That's why Sam will kill me. Oh, okay, okay. Because I'm like, oh yeah, just going to stay. I thought you were saying she was already going to be there with you
Starting point is 00:43:35 and just didn't feel like going to the game. No, because I got... We have like 14, 15 hours of fucking meetings. Every time because I got these people. Yeah, you just pack them all into one day these i got these people yeah you just pack them all into one day i got these people now these agents i'm on with this agency yep they're pretty powerful agency but anytime since i live in indianapolis anytime i go to new york or la they're like this is where everybody's at we gotta introduce you to people and it's like yeah but the beach is also yeah but how many times you're gonna to be in L.A.? I'm like, you're right.
Starting point is 00:44:05 So we, like tomorrow, this show comes out on Thursday. Tomorrow, after Rich Eisen, I think I'm walking into potentially seven or eight hours of meetings. Are you doing Rich again? Yeah, Rich Eisen, 11 to 12. Real excited about it. I love Rich. But it's like they're like, hey, listen, let's try to make some things happen for you. And to do that, you have to shake some hands.
Starting point is 00:44:23 You have to meet some people. People don't know you. They only know you as the guy who screams at NFL games on the internet. I'm like, well, I do a lot of other things on the internet. They're like, yeah, do you? Oh, my great call. So that happens. I forgot that was Monday night, too.
Starting point is 00:44:38 That's going to be an electric atmosphere. 100,000 people in the Coliseum. What time does the game start? 5 o'clock in LA? Yeah, that's actually not bad. So then we can just, what we have to do is we'd have to get a plane. As soon as that thing ends, we're on it.
Starting point is 00:44:50 First thing's smoking out. Yep. Which is what I think we do. Sounds like that's what we're doing. All right, awesome. God, Sam's going to be so pissed. I'm going to have to take Sam on a trip. I'm going to have to take Sam on a trip.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Well, whenever you do that, you let me know when you're doing that because mine's asking for a trip too. So, I know. People business we're grinding small business listen i'm like hey lady we get sometimes we take a few days off between christmas and new year's and we get one week in the summer okay that's what we that's all we got that's all we're a small business right now we're small business internet business. Internet doesn't sleep. No, it does not. Well, I was going to have Sam come to LA with us for the first couple days. Right. But she's remodeling the house currently.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Oh. She'd be happy with that. Well, she is, yeah, for sure. But then it's like, I'm not there during the remodel as well. So there's like some things. A little flip or flop action. So now we got Sally McAfee hanging out with her at the house, which I'm sure that'll bring a lot of positivity.
Starting point is 00:45:46 But it's, yeah, we're going to have to take some vacation time coming up here, boys. We're going to have to get a trip in. I think she deserves it, to be honest. Holds down the fort, remodels the place. I don't want to make decisions here, but maybe we have a best of week between Christmas and New Year's. No one's working that anyways.
Starting point is 00:46:05 What? You've thought about this? No. Yeah, it sounds like you've thought about it. No, that's what we did last year. That's the only reason I did it. We should do it again then. That's what we do.
Starting point is 00:46:12 All right. Well, Thanksgiving, by the way, I have an artistic poem-filled Thanksgiving. It's going to be a good show. I'm very excited for it. It's going to be a good show. Last year, Sean and I, who turned 40 yesterday, happy birthday to him, we started out with a poem.
Starting point is 00:46:30 A Thanksgiving poem. And I loved making it and doing it. I love when you do poems. Thank you. And you're going to make one too. So now I think... I love doing poems too. They say rhyming is the lowest form of talent or something like that.
Starting point is 00:46:44 That's why I like it. But I think I'm cool with it. I'm cool with being at the very bottom of talent. If you can pull it off and it sounds good, I think you have to be very talented to do that. Yeah, but people were attacking Lin-Manuel Miranda for being like... A hack? Yeah!
Starting point is 00:46:59 He told the entire story of America's history rhyming the whole thing. Yeah, but there were basic rhymes. It's like, he told the story of America basically. And I'm like, yeah, I'm impressed by it. I am impressed by it. So Thanksgiving will be a an hour straight.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Let's see until we fully record it. Right now we're about 15, 20 minutes in. Let's say an hour straight of things we're thankful for in the form of poetry. I love that. Yeah, to be spoken word, I believe. I'm real excited.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Is that a week away? Is that only a week away? Yeah, you should probably get ready. I was meant to tell you a couple days ago. You should probably start writing a poem about what you're thankful for. I'm excited to hear it. I'm excited for it. Anything else going on NFL-wise?
Starting point is 00:47:39 What's the game tonight? Tonight is Seattle minus two and a half at home against the Green Bay Packers. Seattle's favorite? Uh-huh. Actually, so good news for Ty, I like Seattle. You're betting on Seattle? I think so. I have to reload all my funds into my bookie because they're all gone. I posted a picture last night
Starting point is 00:47:58 of the Lamar Odom odds. Two nights ago, I posted a photo of the Lamar Odom odds and somebody saw I only had $373 up in a tough weekend i was like you have no idea i got fucking a slot i was on such a heater too and i gave me this blind confidence you know just gave me like this blind confidence i was like yeah your brain knows bro trust it if you're thinking because there's times i would start questioning i'm like god this doesn't feel right and it's like no trust your brain you're thinking, because there's times I would start questioning. I'm like, God, this doesn't feel right. And it's like, no.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Trust your brain. You're on a heater right now. Trust your brain. The worst is like, normally I start the season doing like 50 a game because I feel like it's respectable for me. And then when I started winning, I started going up to like 100, 200 a game. And I did like a $300 game. And then that money disappears a lot more quick.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Yeah, but you win more. It can go but, but, but, but. You win more. It can go the other way, too. It could. That's like craps. Craps, the line at craps table is easy come, easy go. Easy come, easy go.
Starting point is 00:48:57 It's a game of swings, they say. And in gambling here, sports gambling on my bookie, my swing has been heavy towards the yes, yes, yes movement. And I had one weekend of no that was just like ah brought me back down to earth that's how i get fucked on crafts too because i start when i'm like why don't you just instead of giving me the winnings just keep putting them down on those numbers easy come easy go i just want to say i'm very thankful that the labian bell saga is done and we don't have to talk about it anymore james connor james connor is here to buy some merch nobel needed needed. New cheat code shirt. Conner Punisher shirt. Some good shit on the
Starting point is 00:49:27 website. And RIP to Nathan Peterman. That's all I have to say. Are you happy or sad about that? Sad. Super, super sad. Super, super sad. How come? He's going to find his way back. He'll land on his feet. It just makes the internet... There's so many football leagues. Do you think he ends up back in the NFL? Yes. Somehow, someway.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Who? Hugh Jackson. Yeah. Hugh Jackson and Marvin Lewis. I mean, when Brock was cut by the Browns, they said he'd never be back in the NFL either. Look at him now. He's a starter. Played for the Broncos and the Dolphins. What?
Starting point is 00:49:55 I said it the other day. I wrote a blog about it. I said Nathan Peterman and Brock Osweiler are like death from the Final Destination movies. Like, you think you got away from them? You think you did, but they're going to find a way back. Fucking hold your quarterbacks tight because they're coming back. What are some games you're looking forward to this week?
Starting point is 00:50:12 Obviously LA and KC. What other? There's Cincy and Baltimore. Always like a good AFC North battle. You just want to see how Hugh Jackson does over there in the Bengals. What else? That's insane to me. Minnesota-Chicago on Sunday night. That'll be a good one. That's going to be how Hugh Jackson does over there in the Bengals. What else? What do you got? That's insane to me. Minnesota-Chicago on Sunday night should be.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Yeah, that'll be a good one. That's going to be a really good game. Chicago's favorite. I also like the Vikings as dogs in that one. Chicago's somehow becoming a very good football team. Khalil Mack is back. Khalil Mack is so good. Is he going to play again?
Starting point is 00:50:37 Two games in a row? Is Khalil Mack going to play too? Yeah, he's good. That's crazy. And then I'm really looking forward to the little suck-off bowl. Oakland versus Arizona. Who do you got? That should be a good one. Definitely Arizona. I little suck-off bowl. Oakland versus Arizona. Who do you got? That should be a good one.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Definitely Arizona. I think they're still trying. Oakland's just. They all hate it there, huh? Yeah. Oh, yeah. What's John Gruden going to do after this season? Cut everybody?
Starting point is 00:50:56 You can't just cut everybody. You owe people money. You can't just cut everybody. You're going to owe people. What is John? Is he back there? Mm-hmm. Is Coach Gruden back there?
Starting point is 00:51:05 Yeah, we can get him. Sounds like Coach Gruden just took a big chaw at his mouth. Hey, Coach. How's it going, Pat? Hey, I'll tell you a little raspy there. You been yelling at the team a little bit? Yeah, just a little. I'll be the first one to admit this season has not panned out the way I expected it to, okay?
Starting point is 00:51:23 So when he signed that $100 million guarantee, did you expect some success or did you know that, ah, fuck it, we'll suck, I'll just get the 100 mil? Well, you know, I figured it'd be somewhat of a process, but shit, I'm about ready to pack up my suitcase and head back to Bristol. I'm tired of this shit, man. You would want to get back into TV, or I thought you kind of hated that towards the end too.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Well, you know, again, there's the caveat. If they could find me someone other than Sean McDonough to be in a booth with, then, hey, I'm all for it. Give me Tessitore. You were running the Fired Football Coaches Association of America there for a while. Will you turn it to the Quitting Coaches Association of America if you quit or are you trying to get fired so you can live up to that association?
Starting point is 00:52:02 Well, you know, if I keep it as the Fired Football Coaches Association of America, I can maybe bring in Hugh Jackson as my vice president. Well, he's currently hired again. I don't know if you saw that. That's a good point. I have a feeling Cincinnati may clean house at the end of the season, though, man. Who knows? Maybe I'll go coach there.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Shit. What are you going to do about the players that you can't cut that you owe so much money to? God. I have no idea. You got? God. I have no idea. You got any suggestions? I have no idea, man. I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:52:30 That's way over my pay. Legitimately, though, guys making $100 million should be able to figure that out. You know what? I'm just hoping that all these guys get so pissed off that they'll just fucking retire and be done with it. Like me. Yeah, exactly. I hope they all pull like you. You know, Jordy, great guy, but he just couldn't put up with my bullshit anymore. and retire and be done with it. Like me. Yeah, exactly. I hope they all pull like you.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Jordy, great guy, but he just couldn't put up with my bullshit anymore. You know, he's out of there. Retired midseason like Vontae. It's hysterical. Coach, I got a question for you. Jay's always been a terrible little brother, but Jay and his Redskins are leading the division, and you're going to be coming home for the holidays, Thanksgiving,
Starting point is 00:53:04 and Christmas with a one-win team. How do you think the holidays are going to be around the table? I didn't even think about the holiday dinners. Well, you know, Jay is always going to be little brother. So when he walks in, I'm going to give him a big old fucking noogie right away. I mean, he knows who runs the show. Listen, if I had Adrian Peterson in the backfield, we might have, you know, five or six wins. Really?
Starting point is 00:53:22 You know? Alex Smith, I mean, that guy is looking incredible. So you are done with Derek Carr? Yeah, he just, you know, again, the crying, the pouting, the not being tough, throwing it away on third and fourth down. I mean, we need a guy out there who wants to win, man. I don't think he does. I don't think he does either.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Thank you, Tony. I mean, it's fourth down, fourth down and one. Worst case scenario, you're going to turn the ball over and you throw it into the fucking dirt because you're afraid to get hurt. It's tough. I've been preaching that all year, man. By the way, crazy Redskins stats of the week. Just saw it on Pro Football Talk.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Alex Smith has thrown for 178 yards, exactly 178 yards the last three games. And they've also, every single game this year, the first person to score has won the game. They have not had a lead change the entire year. Alex Smith, I don't fully understand all the Alex Smith hate. 178 yards, not a lot of yards, but it seems like that guy wins everywhere he fucking goes.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Everywhere he goes, he wins. Good decision maker. Great decision maker. Oh, it's a system quarterback. Well, I want every quarterback to be a system quarterback if the system is not fucking up your team. That'd be great. I'd love that.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Good decision-maker, except for when he ran. He had a 45-yard rushing game the other day and decided not to get out of the bounce at the last second and took an absolute fucking shot. Oh, yeah, he got slaughtered. Like, you ran for 45 yards, just step out. He was smiling, though, there at the end. He was like he wanted to feel alive again, you know?
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Starting point is 01:01:50 yeah yeah i ain't no author huh i can't even write a blog uh todd mccombs has joined us todd uh was 21 years in the state police as a detective. Correct. And very much an inside look into law, the law world. I love crime docs. I love murder mysteries. I love everything like that. Todd said he had something special. I can't wait to hear about it. Yeah, the El Chapo trial is going on right now in New York and Manhattan.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Very chaotic. I heard two jurors have been dismissed from the jury already. I don't know why. I watch both. This does seem like something that does happen on a regular basis. But El Chapo, one of the biggest gangsters in the history of gangster, is going through a trial right now. What's happening?
Starting point is 01:02:34 Well, you got to think that there's a chance that either those jurors were like, listen, I am not going to be a juror on this trial because I don't want my house to blow up. You know what I mean? I don't want my kids to get kidnapped, whatever. Or there's evidence they've been tainted. There's probably 200 U.S. Marshals. It's like unprecedented security for this trial.
Starting point is 01:02:58 As there should be, by the way. El Chapo, for those that don't know, is the leader of the Mexican cartel, basically. Right. He's the most powerful gangster since Pablo Escobar. Probably more powerful than Pablo Escobar ever was, by the way. He became the guy. At one point, there was undercover agents driving up his driveway in Mexico, and he
Starting point is 01:03:21 had 100 men who weren't dead yet but dying chained to telephone poles while you drove up his driveway just to intimidate people to let them know what will happen if you don't pay him his money or do what he says he's killed thousands and thousands of people he's sold billions and dollars of drugs and guns and whenever he was in jail he had his crew build him a fully lit, fully heated, fully operating tunnel directly out of his solitary confinement jail cell for him to hop on a dirt bike and ride right back into his house in Mexico. A G, a real G. Like, if you live in the U.S. and you've done cocaine in the last two decades, chances are you did his cocaine. He owns it all. Yes, he is the guy for a long time.
Starting point is 01:04:12 He is the guy that the border agents basically have to deal with. It's kind of like an unwritten rule. Like, hey, you don't want any terrorists in, we won't try to come in. He's an ant. This guy is top dog. He is. And a real connection here to Indiana, which I love because this Clint Eastwood movie comes out like December 14th, and it's called The Mule. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:36 And it's based on a real guy who was arrested at 87 years old. He was the number one drug trafficker a mule transporter of cocaine for el chapo's sinaloa cartel holy shit at 87 years old dude he ran for over a decade i guess and what indiana is where he lived in michigan city indiana northern indiana and ran a daylily farm and you know as the front or that maybe that was just his passion project but he made his real money running coke from mexico to detroit for el chapo so he would drive from michigan city his house his farm like hey this is my farm probably has a family grandkids yeah they probably come sit on the front porch swing maybe the rocking chairs
Starting point is 01:05:25 the whole thing and then he would hop in his car be like kids i'll be gone for the next four or five days drives to mexico like jason sudekis and jennifer aniston and um what's that movie meet the millers yeah meet the millers drives in there meets el chapo's crew stalks up the car somehow yeah and then drives back to basically Michigan City, Michigan, and then goes home for a couple weeks, does the same thing later. Incredible story. How many years was he doing it for? For over a decade.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And they know, like they said in one year, like in 2010, they know that he received a million dollars cash for what he was doing. So over a decade, the guy, he got rich? Yeah, he got rich. El Chapo probably loved this yeah is he in jail now yeah uh he only he got sentenced to three years i think and then um he uh he only had to do like a year of it because he got sick and they were like oh he's about to die let's let him out but then he lived for another like year and a half after he got out of course he did yeah by the way gaudy was battling cancer i think on um in solitary confinement when he was in jail and like battling hard like he was dying they were basically like and his kid asked him
Starting point is 01:06:38 you know like he was like are you ever gonna give And he's like, every day I'm alive is another day fucking the state. He was literally just living just to fuck the state over. Those gangsters, that is just in their blood. It's just like, anyway, I can. I wouldn't be surprised if that 87-year-old guy faked sickness. Somehow, he faked a sickness to get out of that jail and then live for another year and a half. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Those gangsters, the more and more documentaries I watch, they just live by a different set of rules. El Chapo lives by a different set of rules. Absolutely. He had no qualms or worries about just walking right up to you and shooting you in the face. I know. And sick as it sounds, there's always a part of me I can't help but have some level of admiration for that because I always think my personality, if I grew up in the right or, would you say, wrong environment, I could see myself as a fucking gangster.
Starting point is 01:07:31 I think I could maintain that mentality. Well, I think that's why they make movies out of it. And that's why these things become... Because everybody can relate to it. Because everybody's like, man, I can't believe they do... I can't believe... Whenever I heard that undercover guy be like, we were driving up to El Chapo's,
Starting point is 01:07:47 one of El Chapo's mansions for the first time. And while we were driving up, there's just these humans chained to telephone poles that were either dead or nearly dead all the way up there. And it was just strictly to intimidate people not to do anything out of line. No. Hey, string up about 100 bodies over here just so people know.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Add him to the poll. Don't forget. Add him to a poll. We don't have any polls left. Put another one in. It's just a crazy world. I wonder what's going to happen in this court case. He's facing a life sentence.
Starting point is 01:08:19 And I guess sometimes cartel guys, I can't remember if Pablo was or not. I don't know if they had him charged with murder or not But he's charged with several counts of murder So they're probably going to get him Like Gotti They investigated Gotti for six years and he got off It's like how can you Investigate a guy for six years
Starting point is 01:08:37 Who's doing all these terrible things They had recordings of Gotti when he finally got caught Where he was like Tell him, me, John Gotti Will slice his fucking throat They had that recording recordings that got him when he finally got caught where he was like tell him me john gotti will slice his fucking throat like they had that recording and that was the only way they got but they were they were surveillance surveying surveying him for like five years trying to build up a case and then he got that's why they called him the teflon don for so long yeah because he could get out of it is there any chance el chapo gets out of this there is right i would say there's
Starting point is 01:09:02 a slight chance i mean he had more money than God, and that always gives you an upper hand. He has the intimidation factor. Can he taint two jurors, you know, or put them in fear of their life and swing this thing? Doesn't the... In the world we live in now, there's no way to get a fair trial, right?
Starting point is 01:09:20 No. There's no way anybody in the jury... Not that El Chapo... Listen, I am not saying el chapo deserves a fair trial it's not i think he's done a lot of terrible things to people but there's no way anybody in that jury has never heard of el chapo right right no that was the biggest news ever there's 14 documentaries about el chapo on netflix right now he's on the front of every newspaper every single day the if you even turn on your internet twitter any social media it's el chapo
Starting point is 01:09:45 el chapo el chapo it's literally there's no way you sit in that jury pool and just be like yeah i never heard it i can't wait to hear a fair both sides of the story i can't wait to hear like imagine that jury who's never heard about him though whenever he hears a story about el chapo taking a dirt bike out of his solitary confinement i can't wait for them to hear them be like this fucking guy did what because they if they're in the jury, they could have never heard about him. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:07 That's the law. Yeah. And they can't. They're like sequestered, they call it, right? Where they just can't. They're talking to each other. They're like miserable. They're locked down.
Starting point is 01:10:15 This dude took a fucking dirt bike out of a solitary confinement. Did you guys see that video? That's crazy. Like, who doesn't know that? I know. Who hasn't heard about that? Who knows nothing about El Chapo?
Starting point is 01:10:27 Nobody. I don't want to say El Chapo deserves a fair trial, but there's no way El Chapo is going to get one. This guy is going to jail forever. Yeah, I think so. Absolutely. Well, he should. Yes, he should.
Starting point is 01:10:40 But you know what's beautiful? Are they filming inside the courtroom? I haven't seen any footage from inside. They run as well. Yeah. How do they figure out which ones they do and which ones they don't? I don't know. It must be up to the judge, as far as I can tell.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Because on Dateline, some you have footage from inside the courtroom. Some you don't. Right. I think the tendency is, or you're more likely to get cameras inside if it's not a federal court. He's in federal court, so I think it's a get cameras inside if it's not a federal court. He's in federal court, so I think it's a lot more locked down. So state court. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Like staircase and all that was in a local state court. You know what I mean? So I think your chances are higher because probably it's just a single judge's decision. Are all federal crimes in New York? No. So why is his thing in New York? I don't know. It's just the district it fell in i don't know if it's because of you know certain counts were tied to a region or whatever i don't
Starting point is 01:11:30 know so there's guys in jail right now from new york waiting on their trial in their trial one courtroom one judge is being yeah taken up by el chapo who did and half of the u.s marshal's service yeah isn't this just something like yo el chapo we all know we caught you all right you're in jail forever let's just i don't know what we're doing let's move on isn't it cool to think about like right now we're in here doing what we do and somebody's at a ford plant right now doing what they do and the whole time that this is going on our day goes on doing our own thing, there is this constant battle between law enforcement and cartels that exists, like even here in Indianapolis. At every level of local, state, and federal law enforcement,
Starting point is 01:12:15 there is constantly this battle of trying to intercept a shipment from a cartel and putting a case on them. That's been happening for decades now. That used to be my job, right? Trying to get these loads intercepted, go as high up the ladder we can to ultimately get somebody from the cartel charged. It goes on every day.
Starting point is 01:12:32 And this phone game- Like right now it's happening, right now. Right now it's happening. Last night when I was sleeping, there was somebody who was doing some sort of investigation on attempting to stop drugs from the cartel moving in a minute.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Right now there is a room full of DEA agents and maybe some local state task force guys helping listening to phones in hopes to getting whoever took El Chapo's place at the height of the hierarchy. Right now. And there's a team that's analyzing phone records from people that are associated with it,
Starting point is 01:13:00 trying to constantly, because these guys are dumping phones every week, every two weeks or whatever, constantly trying to find a new phone number. It's a cat and mouse game between the cartel and every single department in America. It is. It's incredible, dude.
Starting point is 01:13:12 It is incredible. And it's really fun. That's why, though, the judge in the state want to take this to trial, because it's literally 24-7 hours and hours of work trying to get to El Chapo. Oh, yeah. It took a long time for people to find out that El Chapo is the guy.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Yes, and spent millions and millions and millions of dollars in doing so. Right? So the state feels like they're representing all of the towns that we're looking for. That's why this is going to go to a full trial, the whole thing. Cases like this define the DEA's budget for the next 10 years you know what i mean a successful prosecution of an el chapo increases their budget makes their lives so much better for at least the next decade that's you know what i mean so yeah that's why they'll never run out of documentaries to make no good for me good for me yeah well for me. Yeah. Well, good for America getting El Chapo off the streets, I feel.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Yeah. So what are they going to do? They got to keep him in. The hole is normally in the basement, right? Yeah. The hole normally in the basement. I don't know much about the hole. I was in solitary confinement for 12 hours.
Starting point is 01:14:17 But the hole is normally in the basement where there's no. They have to keep him, what, on the top floor. Yeah. Now the game after this is going to be figuring out a way to keep him what on the top floor yeah they're like now the game after this is going to be figuring out a way to keep him in jail yeah anybody because there could be a guard that could turn right any of these guards could get paid off or threatened to let him out right yeah they could be walking him you know to court and a van full of explosives running to the front of the federal courthouse. That's not beyond the realm of possibility with this group.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Can you imagine? They have to be so – they probably have to take him in like four different cars. They have to do like what the president does. This car goes, this car goes. Maybe we load up security on this one but not as much on this one just so it's all a diversion game. Oh, yeah. So they spent all this time trying to catch him,
Starting point is 01:15:04 and now they've got to spend all this time trying to catch him and now they gotta spend all this time keeping this el chapo guy god he would love this el chapo guy god he god he would love this el chapo guy yeah just spending the state's money just putting him to task basically that's insane on some inside again on some level i love this guy a little bit there's a little part of me that's like this guy's pretty awesome i like get away with this for so long yeah he said he had houses built of cash because he didn't have anywhere else to put his yeah yeah that's true yeah houses built of cash because he didn't have anywhere like the walls were literally built with money with it yeah there was just the whole house was lined with money so like if you were to crack the... What's this called here?
Starting point is 01:15:45 This stuff here. Drywall? If you were to crack the drywall, there was just millions of dollars just in all the walls. The only house in Mexico with insulation. And it's all fucking cash. Get the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Okay, it is time for our check-in with the pub. How is the pub doing, boys? Incredible. Always good. The pub's amazing. Pub Cat is almost there. She's almost inside the pub. Okay, so Pub Cat was a kitty that just started showing up on the front porch of the pub.
Starting point is 01:16:18 You guys started feeding it a little bit, and now you are trying to woo Pub Cat into becoming a full-time pub cat. Pub Cat, yeah. Right now it's a battle because our neighbors want it and we want it. And they are teenage girls. Oh, no, no. They are just girls. Majority over 21. Majority over 21.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Yeah, you got teenage girls living next door who probably love this cat. They do. They see it. Oh, this homeless cat. Let's take care of it. Sam's a big cat girl. Sam's the one that brought the cats into my life. I love cats, by the way.
Starting point is 01:16:48 But I wonder if the cat, it's a street cat. This is a street cat. Does it want to be with teenage girls, or does it want to be with a little bit of grit? You know, like you guys are the shittier house. You guys have the shittier stuff. Your front porch is filled with trash, and you just got a bunch of terrible things in there. That's the old pup. Old pup. That's the old pup. house you guys have the the shittier stuff your front your front porch is filled with trash and
Starting point is 01:17:05 you just got a bunch of terrible things in there that's the old pub old pub well i'm just saying maybe this homeless cat feels a lot more comfortable with you guys instead of the teenage girls who have their parents still find itself better in the streets yeah yeah yeah it's like it's still in the streets but it has a roof over it perhaps but if the girls liked the cat more than we did they would have had the cat inside from day one, correct? No, you don't just take an outside cat and just put it inside. I think there's some diseases potentially. At least day three or four, though.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Not pup cat. They would attempt to woo it a little bit. Like Nova, my one cat, hopped into Sam's car at a Steak and Shake parking lot at like 3.30 a.m., she said. It was in a dumpster. It was living in a dumpster. The Steak and Shake workers told her, like, yeah, that cat's been in the dumpster there for like the last week. And she literally hopped into Sam's car. So Sam just took her home, and she became Sam's pet.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Now she lives in Dallas, and she's a fat ass. She'll eat anything. She's a street cat. She's a savage still. And she's a lover. This could potentially be what happens with old Pub Cat yeah and pub cat's definitely a lover she was uh she he i'm gonna go back and forth on whether it's a he or she because you haven't done the steve irwin test i haven't done the steve irwin test and i don't think i will he used to just say stick your finger
Starting point is 01:18:17 inside an alligator if you feel something it's that's wild yeah i don't think i'm doing i don't think i'm doing the steve irwin. Does it purrs a lot, though? It likes you guys. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Does it come back and see you guys whenever you, like, when you guys go outside, he gets excited. Bobcat's like, oh, they're home?
Starting point is 01:18:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You hear a meow, and it jumps over the wall. Yeah, because there's a divider on the porch. Because there's that little divider on the porch. Oh, so they're on, she, Bobcat's on the other side of the porch. They have a blanket set up for him and stuff like that. But it's cool. We don't do that, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Yeah. Plus, we are upgrading the pub left and right. Right now, we are in a recruiting battle of PubCat with the teenage girls next door. Yes. We should call Nick Saban. Well, that's what I'm saying. They have a $15 million sleep facility over there
Starting point is 01:18:57 with that blanket on the porch. What do you guys? You guys got a flower pot filled with the Heineken bottles? No, no. We got rid of the Heineken. There's dirt and cigarette butts, so it keeps them warm. So I will say these two go out every single night and they
Starting point is 01:19:10 feed them. So we have that going for us. We gave a whole pizza last night. Oh, good. So you're feeding nutritious things here to the cat? Well, this is a stray cat, so we know it hasn't been dealing with the top of the line food at all. So whatever we give it is a leg up from whatever it
Starting point is 01:19:25 was having i'm just so excited that you are in a recruiting battle right now for pubcat yeah it's big and this cat is just finessing both of you the cat is he's the cat's getting pizza from you oh we're like the fourth parents yes and two christmases or four christmases pubcat did scratch said neighbors so pubcat has not attacked us. Pubcat has attacked neighbors. This is true. Pubcat's lashing out irrationally. Yes. Well, not irrationally.
Starting point is 01:19:49 They tried to grab it and take it in. And clearly, Pubcat didn't like that because he wants to come to our side. Has Pubcat been inside the pub yet? This close. This close. We were so close to getting him in. So it was the other day when I gave him the pork chop. I gave him the whole pork chop.
Starting point is 01:20:04 And he's at the door. And I could have held it on our side of the door so he would have came in. But I was like, I don't want to push him. I don't want to be the dad that just like. It's got to be natural. It has to be natural. You don't want to bribe him into it. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:20:16 So I walked outside respectfully. I met him 90-30. Or 90-10. 90-30. You keep it 120, huh? Yeah, you keep it 120. We go over 120. It didn't even run away.
Starting point is 01:20:28 We put in way more than 100% in the pub and way more than 100%. I want to spin zone by you. This is exactly like the fucking Twitch. This is the Twitch meeting right here. What they do. 100 million. 100 million.
Starting point is 01:20:40 What are you talking about? Well, he just said some bullshit stat and then you spun zone it into making sense. It wasn't a bullshit stat. We always try to reach for way past 100% at the pub. We don't try and say 100% is enough. 100% is never enough. No way.
Starting point is 01:20:55 You need to put in way more than 100% if you want something to succeed. Yeah. So here we are. Zito said 120. I would go as far as 125%. Maybe 130. Hey, Zito, he just won five up. Well, no, no, because we're all on the same. You're going 130?
Starting point is 01:21:10 Hey, we're all giving the same amount of percentage here. No, he just gave 130. You were at 125. All right, now I'm going 131. Seems like it might be a little bit of a rip. 132 now? Do we have 133? Foxy in the back, do you want 135? 135? Let's think of it 130. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Team player. 132 and sold. Zito gives the most effort. That's hysterical just to think about saying Zito effort. Paradox. At the pub, a lot of things are a paradox, okay? It's true. You should see the new setup, though.
Starting point is 01:21:37 The new setup is an all-time high. Thanks to you, by the way. You donated to the pub. Thank you for the donations. Very nice. Sam remodeled the house. She got rid of all the things that I bought. And we apologize for the wall again. That wall did not
Starting point is 01:21:48 deserve that. Who cares about the wall? What about my face that was holding up a couch? Zito, Connor, and Phil were trying to figure out. Phil wasn't doing anything. Nothing. He was pointing at things. We had to get him up. Moving is terrible. It's the worst. Tim McAfee was a mover for, I think,
Starting point is 01:22:04 over a decade when i was a kid like a professional mover like long distance too so you'd drive a 18 wheeler he'd move somebody from like new york to arizona and then he was yeah so he not only was he a truck driver which is a tough job he was the mover which is the worst job so he was he was two of the jobs together combined one so moving has always been in the mcaee family, you know, like, hey, this is what we do. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:28 I hate doing it. Like if this was back in the day, your last name would be Mover. Tim Mover, Pat Mover, Sally Mover. Yes. Yes. Okay, Mover. Yes. So I very much understand the ins and outs of moving.
Starting point is 01:22:41 I literally, I don't want to say grew up with it, but I understand it, right? the ins and outs of moving i literally i don't want to say grew up with it but i understand it right the big part is when you're on the bottom okay when you're going up steps it is your you are the one working at that time yeah it's your duty i was and i did it every time we went up there because you guys are moving a couch out of my house to to the pub sam wanted it out because she doesn't respect my interior design i will say those are the most comfiest couches of all time that was a big loss in your behalf I picked this up I picked this up very nice oh I sat in them at a place yeah I was like I'd like this one and they're like the floor model I was like sure half off boom right into the house same I love how the pub has become the
Starting point is 01:23:24 Museum of Pat. It is. You guys are just collecting artifacts from my house over there. Yeah, hopefully, hopefully. We still got a few more to check on. But we did wreck the wall. Yeah. We did wreck the wall. But technically my fault because I'm the guy on the bottom controlling where it's going.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Imagine how much easier it would have been, though, if those downstairs doors would have been double doors. Yeah, I don't know why they didn't do that. Not a single door. At least one of them. There was three doors. All three of them had the square. Because it is like Tetris when you're trying to fit a couch up.
Starting point is 01:23:47 You have to bend it around, and we're trying to go up a staircase. You have to take the pillows out so you can use that inside couch to bend. What we didn't do is we didn't take the legs off. And I stated it early that we have to take the legs off. And then you said it's too late. Too late. We were already a couple steps. I was already a couple steps up.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Too late. That thing bouncing on my face, though, while you guys were trying to figure out the angles, was a real moment in my life. I never thought I'd be here. I'm like, Zito is currently controlling whether or not this thing gets off my face. He always keeps it 132, but I'm fucked right now.
Starting point is 01:24:19 So I didn't know you helped, and I thought it was just these two that did it. So last night, I wasn't there, you know? So I was like, hey, I'm going to buy them buy them pizza moving shit sucks i'll buy dinner for the night they did a lot though let's not get crazy no no that's good but you didn't get any of the pizza for helping i'm not eating pizza i'm not i'm not eating pizza right now i'm not i'm not even eating after like 7 30 wow i'm eating i'm eating one meal basically from noon to 730. The effects are happening. But boy, do I miss a pizza right now.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Absolutely. I would love a pizza. And once you hit that first bite, you never go back. I'm telling you right now from experience. This is a little bit of a slippery slope right there. It's all downhill. Slippery slope. What do you guys got going on this weekend at the pub?
Starting point is 01:25:01 Anything? Foxy's out of town. He's in Los Angeles. Yeah, so I think maybe we'll have some girls over finally. I think we'll find, I think we make it happen now. Look at his old, old drought Foxy. That's my fault. That's my fault. Get Foxy out of there.
Starting point is 01:25:13 We might go to the Rapids. I think we're going to finish the pub grades. We still have a couple to do. We're going to buy a new TV. Where'd you put the couches at? Until you come. You won't find out. You'll never know. I'm going to say this with 100% straight face. I'm not sure I'm ever walking to Netflix. I want you'll never know i'm gonna say this with 100 straight face i'm not sure i'm ever walking in that place i want you guys to know that yes on the wall we need your jersey look you don't listen to all these you don't understand you look hold on i'm
Starting point is 01:25:34 being serious hey pat it's connor i'm being serious right now this place is nothing like what you walked into before. Our bathroom. Hold on. Hold on. Our bathroom is cleaner now. Downstairs one or upstairs one? Downstairs one. No way.
Starting point is 01:25:51 That thing was a cesspool. It is. It is. It is. If you ever come back, we're going to do the same thing Bar Rescue does, John Taffer does. We're going to have you walk up blindfolded and then turn you around and be like, wow. Yes. It's one of those reviews.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Like a flip this house type situation. It is one of those. We could have moved the bus the same way Extreme Home Makeover does to get people into the house, I swear. Is that why Pubcat's so interesting? That's why it's an actual competition with the neighbors because you guys are now having a real place. And their biggest TV they have is like a 20-inch,
Starting point is 01:26:17 and Pubcat's more of like a 15-inch cat. Yeah, Pubcat doesn't just sit on the couch and watch cable. No, Pubcat watches from out front, watches through the window. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Can't do that with a 20-inch. No.
Starting point is 01:26:29 No way. You need the bigger TV, which the pub has. All the leaves have fallen off the tree up there at McAfee Estate. Oh, yeah. Oh, the estate, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. So I'm starting to see my neighbor's houses now.
Starting point is 01:26:40 So whenever there's leaves on the trees, I live literally in my own world. It might as well be seclusion from the rest of the world. Then whenever the leaves fall, I see the neighborhood that's right to the right. Since I walk out, one of them got like an 80 inch TV while, while the leaves were on the trees, because I walked out last night to put Val out and it looked like there was a
Starting point is 01:27:01 flash coming through. I thought there was a UFO in the woods and I turned and it was, it was a flash coming through i thought there was a ufo in the woods and i turned it was it was them watching tuesday night smackdown i was watching smackdown from my front yard about 300 yards away looking into their house with this it might have been the biggest tv i've ever seen in my entire life two solutions for you what's that let's get you bigger tv and let's get you winter trees pine trees. But they have to be fully sized pine trees. Oh, that's a lot of money. Because if they're little baby pine trees, they have to grow to block it.
Starting point is 01:27:31 But I don't mind. I've got a chance to meet a few of those neighbors. We had a rough relationship up front because I built a fence in between. The water thing too, right? Yeah. I mean, it was a rough relationship up front because their relationship with the previous owner
Starting point is 01:27:41 and then me changed, obviously, when I moved in. Like, you can't just have your little four-year-olds run around in my yard and expect like that's going to be okay their relationship with the previous owner and then me changed obviously when i moved in like you can't just have your little four-year-olds run around in my yard and expect like that's going to be okay because if that kid gets hurt i know you're going to sue me so it's like i can't i can't have that i am so sorry growing up i had people in and out of my house that i didn't even know all day also originally it wasn't fenced it was everything was wide open and that neighborhood was using basically my entire property as like a fucking play place yeah it's like it's like the local hey let's go play back oh yeah like in the they were like running around the back field like it was i walked out one time
Starting point is 01:28:14 the first couple days i was there and it was like a little family playing football in my backyard i even this is really cute this is really like i thought this was really i never knew that i thought they were hopping it or something this is, you hit one punt the wrong way. You're giving the kid CTE forever. Well, it's not even about that. What if that kid just runs into my little terrible fence I have back there, hurts himself? I've seen enough bull episodes. I've seen enough.
Starting point is 01:28:34 That's 100% on me. Yep. But I didn't want to be the asshole, right? I didn't want to be the asshole. No, you don't want to stop the fun. No, I don't want to stop the fun. For the brand, for the kids. But I very much don't want to be responsible for that entire neighborhood's play.
Starting point is 01:28:48 So I built a fence up, and boy, there was some hateful things. Some backlash? That fence builder got yelled at. Boo! There was one of those guys, one of the neighbors told him that he's going to cut the fence down to the fence builder. And the fence builder texted me and was like, hey, this guy says he's going to cut the fence down. What should I say to him? I'm like, what are you going to tell him?
Starting point is 01:29:09 You're the fence builder. You're literally hired. What are you going to tell him? No, don't do that. Tell him don't do that. And the fence builder was like, I told him, I don't think he's listening. And that guy, this guy just hired him to build a fence,
Starting point is 01:29:20 and he's getting yelled at by all the neighbors. Oh, we're going to cut that down. It's like, they didn't do it though, by the way. Good news. I'm very thankful for them. The relationship has been building with them. The one guy had all of the flooding in his backyard. PVC piped right into my yard,
Starting point is 01:29:33 so I would have to deal with the swamp. Oh, okay. Classy move. Yeah, but I think that was done with the previous. That was post gate. That was done with the pre. Or post fence. That was, they had it in before fence.
Starting point is 01:29:44 Fence built during a dry time doesn't come the drought or the rain didn't come until like a month later right so now i have to deal with a swamp in my yard and i'm like wow what's this i might this can't be a floodplain i'm on top of the hill so i once it dried out again i went and took a look there's a pvc pipe that's running from that guy's backyard right into my yard. And it's like he's just flooding everything from his neighborhood. Basically, his entire neighborhood is just flooding into my yard. It's building like a swamp.
Starting point is 01:30:13 So I'm like, oh, what the fuck? There's no way you're supposed to know what to do with this. Like, there's no way. So I just clogged the hole. Did the lady that lived before you, was she like old and didn't really get out much? I assume. So she just didn't give a shit if stuff like that was happening? Yeah, I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:30:28 I honestly have no clue how it all got set up. I have no idea. Also, old people love when you play in their yard. So even if it was an old person. Yeah, because they're getting to see action. Yes, they're eating it up. So I was kind of the bad guy. But I think it's coming around.
Starting point is 01:30:42 I talked to a couple people. A guy has come over i think the relationship is building i think they're starting to see my side of things as well and i'm starting to enjoy them a lot and i'm very excited and happy for the person that got that tv because it looks like a fucking spaceship coming through my i took val out and i like did like a full it was like a full jump moment where i like like, holy shit. Double take? Yeah, I was like, I could see Shane McMahon's face from 350 yards away on this guy's 4K TV. I'm like, can't wait to act like Pubcat and just see what we're watching. Hey, what do we got Wednesday?
Starting point is 01:31:20 What are we watching Wednesday? Speaking of, I saw Daniel Bryan. He's a new champ. Going against Brock. How about that? Is he going to die? Love it. I honestly have no idea.
Starting point is 01:31:32 NXT TakeOver has a lot of incredible matches. And Survivor Series is going to have a lot of incredible matches. I'm excited for this weekend with the WWE. The shows should be very entertaining. Oh, yeah. I don't know what Daniel Bryan and Brock Lesnar. Brock Lesnar's normal matches are he gets in there, suplex people, suplex, suplex, suplex, suplex, gets hit with something,
Starting point is 01:31:51 suplex, suplex, suplex, F5, it's over. Daniel Bryan, though, is like a really legit wrestler. He's an animal. He's a legit wrestler, in-ring wrestler. I'll be excited to see what they can put together, those two. Those are two of the most talented humans, and people have been in WWE a long time. I'll be excited to see what happens there. together, those two. Those are two of the most talented humans and people who have been in WWE a long time. I'll be excited to see what happens there.
Starting point is 01:32:07 I'm just glad it's not Brock and AJ Styles. You hate AJ Styles. Oh, so much. I don't know why people love him. That's what I'm saying. You look at that guy, it's like, this guy looks like a fucking schlub. How is he one of the most popular wrestlers in the WWE universe?
Starting point is 01:32:22 I don't fully comprehend it. I don't fully comprehend it. I don't fully comprehend it. I don't. He just sounds like a backwoods hick on the mic, too. It's because he's been around for so long in the wrestling world. That's why he's respected, which I can respect a lot, but I don't know why he's loved. I mean, he's athletic.
Starting point is 01:32:37 Some of the shit he does in the ring is good, but he sucks. Daniel Bryan, Brock Lesnar, excited for that. On Saturday Night NXT TakeOver, there's a War Games between Undisputed Era, which is four dudes, War Raiders is a tag team, Ricochet and Pete Dunne, which is a British dude. I'm excited for that.
Starting point is 01:32:58 They're inside a couple cages there. Every time NXT TakeOver happens, I want to let you know, any time an NXT TakeOver happens where I try to turn a pre-show into the show and I've been there, just know that the humans that are involved in the TakeOver are willing to do absolutely anything for your entertainment. These people are insane. I thought somebody died last time.
Starting point is 01:33:18 I thought there was a chance somebody died last time. I'm probably not supposed to say that. But I thought there was a potential death opportunity there. There's a chance. This show on Saturday night is going to be very much worth watching. Did you pick your outfit out yet? Oh, yeah. I got a good fit.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Is it a good one? I'm real excited about it. I'm real excited about it. There may be a return of some warmer weather clothes. Let's go. There may be a return. What do you think Sam's wearing? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Sam Roberts and I have not talked, by the way, since the last time. There may be a return. What do you think Sam's wearing? I don't know. Sam Roberts and I have not talked, by the way, since the last time. He was with SiriusXM Negotiations. He had a lot going on in his life. I have not talked to him, and I can't wait to see old Sam Roberts. Old, crusted-to-crown-looking Sam Roberts. His hair is the best, dude. It is. He's such a good talker, too.
Starting point is 01:34:02 He's really good. He's really, really good. He reminds me of that Simpsons guy. Sideshow Bob. That was the one. Or Krusty. No, not Krusty. Sideshow Bob might have been who I meant.
Starting point is 01:34:11 That was a Zito I just had right there. Yeah, his hair just goes straight up. I don't fully understand. And that's natural, by the way. He does nothing to it, which you would never guess. That is just very natural. I'm excited for it. I'm real excited to get out there.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Should be a fun trip to LA. I hope the pub gets a new cat. That would be cool. Hashtag end game. I'm excited for it. I'm real excited to get out there. Should be a fun trip to LA. I hope the pub gets a new cat. That'd be cool. Hopefully. Hashtag end game. Hashtag end game. Send me a picture or an idea of a shot I should use against Lamar Odom. Yep.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Nice. Yes. Okay? So you have until 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time to get your... If I use your shot idea, you'll get some free merch. Yep. There it is. If I use your idea, your horse idea against Lamar Odom merch yep there it is if i use your idea your horse idea
Starting point is 01:34:45 against lamar odom and the beat pat mcfee challenge happening at 1 p.m eastern standard time today i will send you merch and we got a huge black friday sale coming out oh yeah hopefully the the website's rebuilt it reloaded and recoded by then and we just keep it moving i'm so thankful for you listening tell your friends listen if you'd like or not. I don't really care. I appreciate you so much. From myself, Zito, Connor, Evan, Gator, Ty, Diggs, Todd, and Pinka Bootyhole Nick.
Starting point is 01:35:16 You guys have an incredible weekend. Heartland Radio 2.0 tomorrow with some bangers, I assume. What we have coming up right now. People have been tweeting me potential wwe walkout songs a lot of them been average this one though i don't think i knew about enough this one sounds pretty this could be it tweet me your thoughts as well tweet me your ideas ty schmidt hit the music Schmidt hits music. I'm out. Outro Music

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