The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 027 - Bob Knight, A World Champion, & A FULL Life Recap

Episode Date: December 4, 2018

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Great show for you. Let's get into it. Wild weekend. That DAZN commercial is the worst commercial of all time. I don't know why I chose the lead off with that, but every time it comes on, I hate the DAZN channel. I hate it. It sounds like whenever you get in a fender bender and your horn just stays on. Or when your neighbor's car, the horn stays on or the alarm's on. It sounds exactly like that throughout the whole fucking house. And I'm just like, holy shit, what is going on back there? And you walk back there and it's Michael Buffer. It not bruce buffer by the way michael buffer and i'm like

oh and they got they got old cuzzy painting a painting like i understand the idea behind it but there's no way that's going to help sell the disowned channel no i think you're right i think it's pushing people away more than it's drawing them into it i hate the disowned channel exactly i don't know how to tell them this i honestly they probably have good stuff they invested what like 100 million yeah 165 million or something like that in canelo in that dude let alone paying michael buffer for the let's get ready to i can't even finish it here because we'd have to pay for that i can't even we'd have to pay for that the that commercial has to be the worst commercial in the

history of commercials it's not a good like reaction you know what i mean it's like international house of burgers or whatever quite a negative reaction but ain't nobody who went to ihop before that be like oh i'm not going to ihop because of ihop i will not go to the zone because of that i will choose not to go to the zone i can't't take it. I can't. It sounds... They carried the boo, I think, probably two seconds, three seconds too long. Because it gets to the point where you're like, that's impressive.

Look at this guy. Got the lungs of Phelps on him. You know what I mean? This guy's got good lungs on him. Way to go there, buff, buff. And then it's like, all right. It feels like we're getting into the dumb and dumber scene. Would you like to hear the most annoying sound on Earth or whatever when they're in the car? and then it's like, all right, it feels like we're getting into the dumb and dumber scene.

Would you like to hear the most annoying sound on Earth or whatever when they're in the car? I'm like, who thought of that being a good commercial for a company? I don't know. What are they? They're just boxing and yelling and painting? I guess. It's a streaming network, I think. It's probably going to be really good, too, if I had to guess.

If they're investing that much money into it, it has to be good. They've got to have some Saudi money behind them or something they're investing a lot of money early yeah i don't know who who has there's a lot of money out there to be had from what i've been learning by the way and my ventures across this country shaking hands kissing babies there's a lot of money out there a lot of the money though not great money to be in bed with from what i've heard i guess twitter right now is in an interesting spot really yeah they banned another person they banned laura loomer for what same thing as alex jones was getting it's like uh if you're if you're a wildly conspiracy conspiracy

to the right you get banned right and i'm assuming to the left you would get banned as well right but she was doing she chained herself to outside of Twitter. She chained herself to Twitter. After she got banned? Yeah. Like, I'm not leaving until whatever. And they were like, all right. And it was like an actual standoff.

Like, Twitter, it's the first time somebody was like, okay, let's see how long this lasts. And I think Twitter won because she was, I think she was cold. I think she got cold out there. I think she got cold and it landed. But she was talking about, anytime somebody's the number one trend on a platform that they are protesting i think that's interesting so i clicked on it i do i do a lot of sitting at home clicking on things during the weekends it's the best it's the absolute best i click on this lady and she's giving a full speech about who owns twitter right now not good saudi's own twitter right now it's the best it's the absolute best i click on this lady and she's giving a full speech about who owns twitter right now not good saudis own twitter right now it's all oil

money it's people that don't like america is what i was told by laura loomer the number one trending person this weekend saudis own a bigger stake of twitter than jack dorsey does is what laura told me i did a fact check but it feels but it felt like she was telling the truth. I don't get it. What do they own? I think it's a publicly traded company. So they own more stocks than one of the co-founders, Jack, which is the current CEO, I believe. Right.

So I guess this is just strictly off what Laura told us. So this is unverified news. It's kind of what I live on. That's Twitter, pretty much. I live off of unverified news. It's kind of what I live on. That's Twitter pretty much. I live off of unverified news. Exactly. It is Twitter. That got me into a situation. We'll talk about that in a second.

I want to talk about it real soon, though. Got it. Let's just get this Laura Loomer thing out of the way. She said Saudis own the majority of Twitter, so that's why they're trying to ruin America. That's why if you love America a lot, you get banned. I feel like everyone says Twitter's in a bad spot for the last three years. I don't think Twitter's going anywhere. I think Twitter's finally making money, by the way.

It's like Dana Holgerson at WVU. I think he's finally becoming a good head coach. Now's not the time to get rid of him. There's a lot of conversations about firing Dana because his teams never really live up to the hype. They always are good. They never win, though. He came in early and won a big Orange Bowl

because of Bill Stewart's recruits and stuff stuff like that which he still had to make happen i understand that but i think he's finally learning how to become like a good head coach and it's like if we fire him now it'd be very stupid i think that's what's happening in twitter too they're finally learning how to make money they're finally learning how to be like an app that is worth a shit yeah and now it's what happens, though. You become a target. You become a target whenever you get to the top. You become a target. That's true.

I was going to say, because obviously, you know, I'm a small fish. You don't ever notice any changes on Twitter if you're not in that position, you know, where it's like people. I notice. Well, that's what I was going to say. I assume someone like you probably notices a little bit more. I'm a Twitter OG, man. I've been doing Twitter a long time.

140 characters. 140 characters at a time. I was grinding away. And then they just gave 280 to everybody because everybody gets a trophy these days. And videos, GIFs, a lot of stuff. It's really evolved. I think Twitter is the best place on earth, though, for news and everything. It beats everything.

It beats everything. I learn about everything on Twitter before days sometimes ahead of everybody like even on the national news i mean how do you motherfuckers not know this yeah this is a little old news cuz that's like three news stories ago on twitter twitter is you can i follow somebody in north korea on there and i really feel like i get the real news from there there you go i think it's one of kim jong's people so i'm probably getting that so indie star this weekend greg doyle okay this is where twitter unverified news really get you okay so greg doyle who is a writer for the indie star very talented writer very very talented writer he did uh he's he wrote about my first stand-up experience he like was behind the

scenes all the time greg doyle very talented writer man i have a lot of respect for was that a high school basketball game this weekend center grove verse uh i think cathedral it's a high school basketball in indiana high school basketball really big fucking deal really big and when we talk to todd later uh we'll probably find out why because of the 30 for 30 Bob Knight. Bob Knight, very big influence in Indiana. Hey, I think it's the home of basketball is what they call it. They very much love high school

basketball here. They have like 10,000, 15,000 seat arenas basically for these high school basketball players. And a lot of players come out of Indiana. A lot of big time players come out of Indiana. So it's a thing. Greg Doyle is at a game. And Center Grove is the home team. So it's a thing. Greg Doyle's at a game, and Center Grove is the home team,

and it's in their gym. And Cathedral is shooting free throws, and Greg Doyle is just taking in the – he's a writer who just takes in the scene and then writes about it, which is he's talented at it. He sees this guy because he's hard to miss. His name is Fred the Distractor from Center Grove, okay? Fred the Distractor is this larger power lifter guy, blonde-headed kid from Center Grove High School.

I guess he's a senior. We're talking probably, he looks like he's like six, he looks like he's about six foot tall, 300 pounds. Huge white guy, very pale skinned. And he is doing these incredible things to try to distract the free throw shooter as a former student section member which i was at plum high school for our basketball team i i respected this move he was right behind the hoop this was a big dude he was hitting splits he was ripping his shirt off and i'm talking he's how is the foul shot? How many feet do we know?

I don't. I should. I don't, though. Do we have any idea what that is? 15, 12? That's what I would guess. 15 feet. Okay, so he's five yards away from there. This kid is probably 10 yards away from him.

He's standing directly behind the hoop. Best spot. So he is eye to eye with this shooter. Eye to eye with this shooter. Big old body on him. H hitting splits and ripping his shirt, and he's shirtless in a split at this one point. And I'm watching this. I'm like, this is unbelievable that anybody's making a free throw.

If anybody makes one, I don't know how. This guy is less than 30 feet away from me. Outlandish shit. I think Duke one time, there's a video on the internet where this guy did like a a butterfly or something came out of the circle there behind like i don't know how anybody makes that with that shit going on in the background you have a guy in the speedo back there yes yes exactly that's exactly like that i enjoy that right because in my head fred the distractor that guy is putting his school on his back at that moment.

This is a free throw, but no, no. I'm not in this game. I didn't practice all week. I can't score a goddamn point. But right now is my time to help my school, my town, my community. Fred the Distractor said that. I got you guys. I'll put these American flag pants on,

and I'll hit a goddamn split right here on the wood for this town, this school. So Greg Doyle posts a video of him, and I see it, and I'm like, holy shit, this is awesome. I find this comical. I find it entertaining. And I respect what he's doing for his school at the time. So I thought, so I thought. What I didn't see was, you see, because I wasn't at the game.

I guess one of the shooters, not the video that I posted, but at one point during the evening, one of the shooters has a bad thing of epilepsy. Yeah. Like he's a national epilepsy like foundation support. Like he is a spokesperson for epilepsy. Right. He is a spokesperson for epilepsy, right? And I guess at one point, said student section with Fred the Distractor tag team to distract this guy. And we're telling him to have another seizure.

Have another seizure because he's epileptic. And Fred the Distractor does the flopping fish is what he called it. But it sure looked like he was having a seizure on the court. I did not know that. I had no idea that that happened. But I all of a sudden promoted something that was very much taking a terrible shot at somebody, which I did not respect. So I issued an apology. And I was called disgusting by people on the internet for promoting Fred the Distractor as if I was in the gym listening to them tell him to have another seizure. I was getting attacked.

So I saw your apology. I didn't know any of the story at all. I thought it was a very genuine apology. Well, I had to explain my entire, because I knew, so I had to send to the kid, because I didn't want that kid who is doing a lot of good,

A, for the national epilepsy image or whatever. Right. And I knew if, A, he had been through some real shit if this was happening. Like, you're not just going to come out and support if you haven't really battled. And I guess his story is he's really had seizure issues. Yeah, he's had them during games before. Bad, bad. So I didn't want him to think that I was anywhere near supporting something that was bashing him.

Because, like I said said i had to get police escorted out of high school games i understand what it's like to be the target of a student section my mother sally mcafee still hates an entire town to this day because of the things that their student section chanted and said to me and it was probably my fault to be honest i'm nothing like this kid i used to embrace the heel with the student section. Like I used to fire balls into the student section when playing soccer. I used to chirp back at the student section. If I scored a goal, I was not scared to go stand right in front of their student section.

I was a full-on heel. I was embracing it. And it got me. You know, it got me. When things went bad, it got me. But that type of stuff hardened me for whenever I got 27 death threats after my junior year. That situation kind of hardened me.

There was a couple times where I would go lay my head in bed at night as a high schooler, and I would have another student section chanting things about me and my family and my friends. Terrible things. And the first couple times might have got to me. But then there was a moment where I was like, yeah, you know what? Yeah, yeah, okay. We're going to go ahead and embrace this and fuck these guys, right?

Yeah, definitely. But my mom didn't have that moment. My mom didn't have the moment. My mom didn't have the moment when she was like, yeah, yeah, fuck these guys. She very much took it to heart, and she hates this entire town because of it so i didn't want the the kid or his family to think that i supported that because i understand that that's a terrible thing so i wanted to very much issue an apology to him but everybody that was tweeting me calling me disgust thinking that i would have known any of that was happening exactly

you were the worst thing on twitter you are the worst thing on twitter gaslighters that's what you are you are the worst thing on twitter i wanted to i almost said that too but it was just such a touchy subject i was like i don't want these people coming at me when i'm sitting on my bed on friday night watching a video from an indie star journalist being put out you know what i mean like a guy i respect greg doyle had no idea that was happening either by the way i don't want to say greg doyle isn't a part of this but he had we we literally had no idea that this happened it's terrible that it did though and i hope it all gets settled somehow i don't know how it does center groves the kids came back and said no no we didn't say that oh they doubled down they triple stamped on a double stamp they triple stamped on a double stamp there's so many cameras

out there though somebody's gonna have a recording of it oh yeah yes you can't back in my day we could have possibly said that with a straight face and been like yeah yeah we didn't say that at all no such thing happened the other kids like yo i heard it and they're like no no never and then there's just a thousand people with cameras around this is the different world for you floxy absolutely this is what i grew up with but also if they didn't say it it'll be there yep it'll be on camera true so there's it's an interesting little i was watching this high school drama unfold on my fucking timeline because both center grove the school that have issued the apology who said they didn't do it they tagged me in their tweet and then obviously the other side i was so my timeline

was filled with this fucking high school drama all weekend it was very interesting to kind of see it all in blank unfold but i do want to make sure the kid knows that i'm sorry though i did not i would not support something like well and anyone who knows you knows that if you have all the context in that situation then you're not you're tweeting that. You're not putting it out there. I would have stayed very much away from that. Exactly. But Fred's commitment, in my eyes, to his school. This kid was ripping shirts.

He's a part of the team at that point. He is putting the team on his back at that point. And you always got to respect a good student section. Have to. But I guess there's just a line. Yeah, exactly. Not I guess. There is just a line. Now, granted. Not I guess. There is just a line.

Now granted, I don't think we ever played against somebody who had epilepsy. I have no idea. I'm sure there's assholes in our school who would have said something, but that wouldn't have been my thing. That wouldn't have been my thing. That's not my thing. School student sections, by the way. I thought they were gone.

I think that might have been why I was so impressed by Fred the Distractor, because that seems like a very old school thing. That seems like something back in the day. I will say for sure. Like my brother's your age, student sections way better than when I was in high school. It's because there wasn't anything else to do. Exactly.

So it's just like, it's just like why the TV shows back in the day used to get like 15, 20 rating stuff, percentage rating or whatever. Like 20% of people are watching because there was no options. There was no options back in the day. Now there's options. Back in the day, if you wanted to hang out and talk to people, the only way you did that is at a gathering. There's no way you can just group FaceTime is now a fucking thing.

You can just FaceTime with 100 people. Have you used it yet? No, I can't wait. I'm very excited. I cannot wait. Zito said up to 23 people. You can just FaceTime with 100 people. Have you used it yet? No, I can't wait. I'm very excited. I cannot wait to just. Zito said up to 23 people. I don't know how that's possible. There's no way I know 23 people.

There's no way. There's no way. But I'm excited for a nice little huddle, you know? A little team meeting in there. Boys, let's talk about it. So I want to let that kid know. I don't want to say his name because I don't want people to tweet him. But these are underagers, by the way.

That's a good point. But this is the unverified news of Twitter. That was the unverified news. Yeah. Yeah. I got bamboozled. How are you? I mean, I'm obviously on my vitamins.

Yeah. Right. That video pops up of a kid hitting a split. It says, here's another one from, I mean, I'm not supposed to not jump on that. Yeah, exactly. By the way, that fake punt by Georgia, no good. No good. They had him, bro.

That's tough. They had Alabama. Jalen Hurts, what a magical story for him. So cool. Yeah, that's awesome. He finishes the game. Yep. He finished the game against Oklahoma.

Or Georgia. He finishes the game. Good for him. Gets his whole redemption story what a story everybody talking about that's what a true leader does that's what a true whatever does i very much am also on the other side of the whole thing which you we've heard a lot of people talk about you've heard a lot of nfl guys come out and say let's not bash people who leave to go play. Right. Right. Because that's kind of what a lot of people were insinuating.

Like, next time a player wants to leave, tell them the Jalen Hurts story where he stuck around for his team, for his school, blah, blah, blah, which is honorable. Yeah. It is very honorable that he did that. I think it's very honorable. But also, if a kid decides to leave because he's at a place like Alabama where a five-star comes in and replaces him

and he wants to go play somewhere to prove himself, I don't think that's a bad thing either. I think situations are situational, but I'm very happy. That's one of the worst lines I've ever said. I'm very happy it worked out for Jalen Hurts, though. I mean, I'm sure he would have rather went to Florida State or Florida and started as their quarterback all year. But, you know, he has a good ending.

And possibly playing that game against Alabama. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he looked like he learned how to throw a little bit. Maybe. He was sitting in the pocket a little bit. Nice little juice there. Tua talked about how his dad had that belt for him. Did you hear that?

No. Oh, yeah. In the college game day day they had to sit down with tua and he said if i didn't play good through an interception my grades weren't good i knew what was coming at home and the guy with tom rinaldi was like oh what's coming like oh what's coming he was like all happy and uh two was like the belt they had like happy music behind it too and like went right next to the next scene it was like family is everything oh my god we're just gonna skip by that belt comment the internet didn't though the internet heard it the internet heard that comment was like

wait a minute internet doesn't miss anything the internet does not miss a goddamn thing they don't miss a goddamn no way and then they move forward like it was Tua's dad's decision to go to Alabama. And Tua was like, yeah, that's not my decision to make, to be honest. Jeez. Just straight up all in on the dad makes every decision for me. Where's the younger brother going? Alabama. Wherever the fuck dad says.

I think he already committed to Alabama. Hey, Tua, I'm worried about what happened to Tua after winning that game, that SEC. SEC Championship night in Alabama, everybody's screaming, roll motherfucking time. Oh, yeah. There's this one kid just screaming, though. That's Tua. He probably got his ass beat after that game.

That's a shame, man. Yeah, it is. But, I mean, it made him an incredible... I think there is discipline. I think discipline is needed. Adrian Peterson came out, I guess, and said he still spranks his kid. I just think PR-wise, probably not right now.

Yeah, he might want to just stay away from that. It's a whole new world. It's like timeout is the answer for everything, right? Timeout. And like taking your phone from you and stuff. Yep. It's interesting. I'll tell you what.

Old Sally McAfee and Tim McAfee were not scared to put their hands on old Pat McAfee. They were not both. I'm not talking about just Tim McAfee either. And I deserved it too. Right. But it's a whole new world now. Yeah, you can't. So what am I supposed to do?

I'm just supposed to talk to my kids in ways that they feel terrible? See, I think that's more damaging. That's what I'm saying. I guess you're just supposed to have a relationship like a friend relationship with your kid i guess like i'd rather a hundred times out of a hundred times rather have my dad beat my ass than berate me no you did get branded that's true how's that feel by the way it's it's all right today i got some some good stuff i actually got like some legit like wrap for it because i like

this past week when i'd wrap it it just fall down and like just rub against my uh yeah so i'd have like a bunch of lint in it and stuff like that sweats yeah yeah this is where sweatpants get you i know but i same thing this weekend i was wearing the mugsies and it was just rubbing against my jeans like all night at the bar so but it feels all right it feels good and you can see the ftb so i'm happy about that. There for a while was a question. There for a while because on the bench over there, it's just a wooden burn block.

Right. Square, yeah. Just a square burn. That's all it is. There's no FTB in there at all. That's wild. Yeah, I don't know what you're supposed to do. I don't know what you're supposed to do. That's why I think it should be up to the parents. As long as you're not leaving visible big marks on your kid, I think it should be up to the parents. As long as you're not leaving visible big marks on your kid, I think you should be able to punish them any way you want.

A kid shows up at school with a bruise on, that kid is going right into foster care, right? Immediately, nowadays? Probably. Yeah, that's the way it is, right? I think so. I think it's going to be interesting to see me with a kid. I can't wait.

Everybody else's kids seem to flock to me, and I hate it. Like Phil's kids, I like them because they're Phil's kids. Every time they're around, though, I feel like I get sick. You know, I get like a whooping cough every time, which I don't even know what that is but it's a deep one and it just it's i i'm always scared of what i'm gonna say in front of them right i'm always scared i'm gonna drop like a fuck in front of them and then i'm the bad guy because in my office when kids come in it's their office you know oh yeah it's like a play place

at a restaurant that just takes over the whole restaurant kids just take over places and i get very nervous but when it's my kid it's like literally every move i do is going to shape this oh yeah that's a scary thing man that's that's it's a horror film that's scary to think about see like my brother just had a kid and so he's very young and he's in potato mode that's the scariest part i think i'm holding this thing and it's just like the most fragile thing in the entire world and its little head there is not stiff i mean it just goes it just goes everywhere yeah and his wife's watching making sure i'm doing it and it's just like this is a lot of pressure yeah because if you don't do it right they're never gonna let

you touch the right and then if something's wrong with the kids my fault you also hear the stories of like you you look away for like two seconds and then the kids like rolling down the stairs or something like that like they just they don't care they they're looking to go die any chance they get uh i'm nervous what if that happens to me you'll be all right i'm about at that age to get them yeah i'm about at that age thinking about it no i. I'm about at that age. I'm thinking about it. No, I'm not because we have so much going on. True. So there's so much going on.

I didn't give a... To those listening, the meetings that I've been sitting in, I don't think you would truly comprehend because I don't, to be honest. I don't understand them. I walk in with sleeveless hoodies into these fucking companies

that just sold for like $100 million and I'm supposed to talk to them with a straight face like I'm supposed to be in there. And then there's publicly traded companies. There's been three publicly traded companies who have tried to convince me to move out of Indianapolis. Three of them so far.

And I have them. I enjoy this place. But all the conversations with those, very hilarious to think about. Very, very hilarious to think about very very in six months from now i have no clue what my life is going to be no clue no clue i could be running a tech company getting recruited to become a boss at a place it's unbelievable it makes no sense at all it's awesome though yeah but when you go to bed at night and you lay down

it'd be nice to have a little bit of direction right you know it'd be nice to be like okay tomorrow just gonna knock this this and this out right now it's like tomorrow okay um gotta go work out because potentially be doing something in that world and like three months from now it could be the biggest thing I've ever done in my entire life. Okay, I also got to do that. Okay, got to start reading like Business for Dummies because potentially, okay, got to do that. All right, got to go over here.

I got to work on my filter because I could potentially be on one of the main networks every single day of my life. Okay, got to think about that. Maybe buy some suits because there is a chance you could be in suits for it's just every there's no direction right now there's absolutely none so i'm just enjoying the shit out of it but it's just it's a very wild time to be me very wild time to be me very wild i can't wait till i make my decision by the way

so you guys can all hear me roast all the other shit that's what i'm waiting for i can't wait i can't wait to tell the stories of the shit that i've i've had to i don't want to say do or endure right i mean i've shook some hands with some terribly terrible people and just it's not by terrible i don't mean like morally or ethically i'm just talking about if i ever worked with that person, I'd want to kill myself. Yeah. And those are the hands that... That's what those conversations are for, though, by the way. I think that's what all those conversations are for.

Yeah. Could you work with this person? Mm-hmm. Finding out. There's a lot of no's. There's a lot of no's out there. Wilder, Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury. That was awesome.

I didn't watch it. I just saw I got the highlights on the internet. Yeah, me too. The next day. How about Fury? 12th round. Yeah. Mauro Ranallo, by the way.

Ranallo. Mamma mia. He comes in with that whenever it's a knockout. Yep. The Mamma Mia call is only whenever it's whenever something huge johnny gargano allister johnny gongaro tomasa champa jump off of a 30-foot thing basically through a table moreover and all of them floyd mayweather knocks out conor mcgregor tyson fury 12th round two minutes i think in 12 seconds left deontay the bronze bomber wilder

delivers a two-piece tuesday on tyson fury knocks him down dead 12th round by the way could just be fatigued at this point sits up like the fucking undertaker at nine gets, draw, see you later. Tony, the ESPN boxing guy, loses his goddamn mind about it. Says he's sick of it. I want you to listen to it, actually. Oh, Teddy Atlas? How does this happen? Look, I could take 10 years, and it's been years and years. It's the same garbage, the same trash.

I have no choice. I've been in this business 40 years of my life. Where am I going to go? I don't know where to go. But if I did, I'd get the hell out of it. I'd get the hell out of it. I'm sick and tired of watching these fighters that put everything

on the line. They get in the ring, they come out of the ring with less of themselves physically than they had when they went in. And this gets done to them by a bunch of cowards at ringside that never took a punch in their life I'm sick of it He's being held hostage by the boxing world

What am I doing? It's 30 years Where am I going to go? I'm stuck I'm stuck in boxing He said And he said that the cowards Ringside

Ain't do nothing But fuck it all up Internet lost their mind too It's all business Yeah why does he care though they're gonna fight again and he's gonna get paid for doing the fight the next time hey teddy how about boxing becoming relevant because of this right how about it i probably not as much talk about deontay but then that gets into the whole thing of it like we're saying it's rigged

then yeah like we're saying it's which i then. Yeah. Like we're saying it's... Which I think it is. We're saying boxing is completely rigged, which is not great, by the way. And I think it has been for the last 20 years. So there was no chance Conor McGregor was going to win that fight? No. No way Conor McGregor walks into the boxing world

and it's not... It's like I think... I think some of them rough and rowdy fights were rigged too by the goddamn judges, Donner. Donner. Donner, you might be right. I thought Sean won did too i thought sean won i was watching through that but that's my only experience with the judges i didn't even think about like the judges i'm not a big

boxing fan same so i don't even really think about like oh this is the judge's decision this everybody bitches about the judges but dana white bitches about the judges. It's like, who are these judges? These people are hated by everybody. They're like NFL refs. They're like NFL refs. They're hated. Absolutely hated. Well, it's like the Triple G Canelo fight.

You have two judges that have the exact opposite. They see one guy winning 120 to 112, and then the other guy winning by the same score. It's like, how are you that far off on your... So they got to bring in the Skip Bayless judge. Yeah, right. It's like, all right, who sees this the complete opposite way of everybody else and has 100% conviction? Exactly.

That's what they do with the judges. And then the third guy is always like, hey, it's a draw, okay? We need another fight. So make sure that no matter what, that you have it down as a draw on your card. So Deontay Wilder. I like this guy, by the way. How come I don't know him? How come I don't know much about him?

He seems to be just, he's about that life. He's savage. He's a savage of a human. He just, he calls himself the bomber. I love that. And he's in the 12th round still throwing bombs. That means he's in shape. That means he like really trains and shit like that.

I think the heavyweight pool is just so like, there just aren't that many big names anymore. So guys like him, he just beats the piss out of everyone. So there's no big marquee fights. So that's why they need Fury to last at least another fight with him. Exactly. So the next one's going to be an early knockout by Wilder. You would think.

Boxing. But they also might want the trilogy. Kirk Cousins, by the way, loses another primetime game. It's not primetime. Was it primetime? It was America's Game of the Week. It was 425, so.

Primetime. A lot of people watching it. Patriots, man. Never get talked about. They're just going to fucking do it again. They are. I sit there. I watch it with Connor.

I'm like, dude, i know what's coming this year yep it's gonna happen and then he just kind of sits there and smiles just because that guy that was telling deal and shut the fuck up he just he's got it he's just so much smarter than everyone else everybody yeah you think he's smarter than mike mccarthy or oh that fat fuck i'm so glad he's gone tony dungy not happy about it he wasn't tony dungey said four times on football night in america four different times they were asked about it they gave the same answers him and rodney harrison every they literally gave the exact same answers four times in a row i don't know how you do that i guess that's the tv way i don't know how you

give the same answer every time i would have to have a different take in some sort maybe if it's two times you gotta do your thing. But they were asked four times about it because it was the big news. Tony Dungy, not happy about them firing a Super Bowl winning coach halfway through the season. Twelve years he's been there. Twelve years, nine playoffs. They should have fired him five years ago.

Seriously. That that is fucking ruthless I mean it just now this season doesn't feel like a complete loss cause anymore they're not going to make the playoffs that's fine they've had a couple bad losses but there's a light at the end of the tunnel now

Rodney Harrison said Aaron Rodgers wasn't Aaron Rodgers out there today. He had no personality. He had no grit. Yeah, he was trying to lose because he wanted McCarthy to get fired. Tell you what, Ty, you started these rumblings. You started them. I will say you started these on the internet.

People were saying Ty Schmidt was the one saying. You started it. I think it might have been a real thing. Aaron Rodgers was sabotaging so that Mike McCarthy would get fired. Yes. He doesn't lose at Lambeau in December. And especially,

that Cardinals team is so bad. You know what? They lost to our Colts team. I don't know if it was in December or not. I remember that game. When we weren't that great. We returned the opening kickoff to the house and everything like that. I think't know if it was in December or not. I remember that game. When we weren't that great. We returned the opening kickoff to the house and everything like that.

I think that might have been an October game, if I remember correctly. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't remember. But it was in Lambeau and we won. It was very confusing. We won in Lambeau. Because that's your guys' home. That's sacred ground there. Because you're not only playing Aaron, you're playing the entire city of Green Bay.

Did you see they said the bar that's inside the atrium at Lambeau, it came up on the screen that said McCarthy got fired and just beers flying everywhere, people going crazy. Everyone wanted him out. That's how we reacted when it said Rich Rodriguez was going to Alabama. What? Everybody!

Everybody panic! Screaming shots being taken. Bottles flying. Everybody wanted him out. Who's next? Bruce Arians. I would love that. Bruce Arians said he would only come back for Cleveland.

And I don't think he knew that there was a chance to work with Aaron Rodgers. That's what I think. Bruce Arians has worked with Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Carson Palmer. The only person. Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger. And if he works with Aaron Rodgers, you'd think the only one he really hadn't had was Tom Brady.

I think. Now, granted, they're going to have to beef up that offensive line because Bruce Arians does a lot of hold my dick back there. Yeah. But Aaron Rodgers has the arm in the the like i think he's a good guy for bruce aarons to be pulling the strings for him that can't go at green bay i saw espn's pushing mcdaniels i just don't see that happening i think if he stayed in new england this long why wouldn't you just stay until yeah like you're gone exactly yeah i thought that's what would have happened.

What happened? Whenever he was flying in route to the Colts. Right. Colts had lunch ready for him and everything. A whole schedule ready for him. Because Belichick's got what? Like maybe four or five years left? Who knows?

I've got my coach for another 20 years. He might. Who the fuck knows? He was telling a guy to shut the fuck up like that. That's true true that's like a youth thing if i've ever seen it belichick doing that is just awesome by the way that's like saving we were like what if like this could be his last year or he could go 10 more years saving fake crying he was crying that's why i said it is fake yeah that was he was just like

happy yeah that was fake crying i don't think he even gets happy. I don't even think Nick Saban gets happy. It's just like, yeah, we did it again. Yeah. Like he's just excited that he gets to win again. He's rubbing it in. Yeah. But the fake crying, I think, was him trying to look human.

And now granted, somebody's probably going to tell me that was real and I misread the situation, which it might have been. Right. But there was somebody else who did it too on the field. Somebody else had like a fake cry. It seems to me that's the coach's move after the thing is like, oh, we're supposed to be emotional here. It doesn't seem genuine to me.

I don't know. I could be wrong. I've been away from the game for a few years. I could be wrong. But it feels like those cries were fake. The Nick Saban one did not feel like it was real. No way. I don't think he knows how to cry.

That's what I'm saying. I don't think Nick Saban... I think Nick Saban has lived through so many things that there's not much that's going to make him cry anymore. Like an SEC championship against Georgia is going to make Nick Saban cry? They're going to make the playoff either way, I feel like. There was people...

People were outrageously saying that that team could beat an NFL team. He's crying. Outrageous, people were saying. Who would say that? People. People were saying. I did see that.

People were saying. By the way, me putting that tweet out, the people were saying that. I got both sides coming at me. So I had both sides coming at me. I had the people who didn't know that I had said that earlier basically saying that anybody who said that is a fucking idiot. So those people were coming at me. And then everybody that knew that I said that earlier was like, oh, who said that? Who's

the idiot that I was getting attacked from all? It was a bad tweet for me to put out. Got a real negative on the timeline. I laughed at it though. I appreciate that. Good interaction. We definitely got good interaction, but it was a negative one and I don't love it. I don't love the negativity in there. It was hilarious. I enjoyed it a lot.

But to think that Nick Saban would cry because they win the SEC whenever the team is being heralded as his best team of all time. I don't know. Maybe he was that happy for Jalen Hurts. Maybe. But didn't he just string along Jalen Hurts and tell him that he might be the starter? Big time. I don't know, Nick.

I think you're an incredible coach. If I was an Alabama fan, I'd be a big fan of yours. But let's not try to act like a human. We know you're not. Yeah. We know you're not a human. He would have been at Jalen Hurts' throat if they would have lost that game. Oh, Jalen Hurts.

He would have said, I wish he would have left. Right. I wish we didn't even have the option to put him in. Or maybe not. Who knows? Maybe I don't know Saban well enough. He had the kids at his house on his boat before the season on ESPN Hard Knocks-like show. He seemed pretty human there.

I don't know. He's not. I don't know, man. He's not. I don't know, man. He's not. I don't know if he's... I think it's because I've seen him as such a robot for so long. I don't think he's an actual human. Well, that's like the Belichick thing, too.

Exactly. When he says, fuck you. I love that. That's awesome. That's human. That's not we're on to Cincinnati. No. Exactly.

No, that's... Fuck you, too, man. I bet you Belichick. I bet you if you're friends with Belichick, good guy to be friends with. Oh, yeah. I bet you, just like Saban too, by the way. I bet you friends with Saban, good guy to be friends with. I don't think that was a real cry, though.

Nope. I don't think so either. You know what? As I'm getting older, the more movies I watch, I get a little choked up at the end of them. The more movies I watch, the more choked up I get about things. Maybe he did realize that that was a big moment for J-Lan and got choked up.

It's the holiday season. Everyone's in their feels right now coaches don't even go home coaches don't even know it's a holiday season true the only holiday season is like when recruiting day starts yeah that's their only holiday those coaches have no life robots uh good conversations coming up with the boys. At Todd McComas has joined us, host of Heartland Radio 2.0, stand-up comedian who will be in Fort Wayne and Dayton. Yes, sir. ToddComedy.com, you go check that out.

Todd, you're in Indiana, aren't you? I am. I talked earlier about high school basketball being huge here. Huge. High school basketball is gigantic here. Gigantic. And I think Bob Knight is a big part of that. Indiana loving basketball, right?

Yes. Especially like when I was growing up. He was Jesus to Indiana. Legit. Yeah, he was the biggest thing Indiana had ever seen. He was Indiana. I mean, he was the face of Indiana. So him doing all his crazy stuff,

but the basketball team was a good basketball team. Right. Which was something Indiana could rally behind. Hard working, successful, good sportsmanship team. Yeah. And like in the 90s, if you were from Indiana, say you were from Lafayette, Indiana, West Lafayette, home of Purdue University. If you went to another state, say you're in like Colorado or something, and they were like, where are you from? And you'd be like, oh, I'm from West Lafayette, Indiana. And they'd be like, oh, Bobby Knight country.

You know what I mean? Yeah. No, he's like, no, I went to Purdue. But it was that big. Bobby Knight, which is Indiana's rival, by the way. People don't know. Purdue, Indiana, in-state rivalry. It's a thing.

Many people don't know, though, Bob Knight was this state for a long time. And it's ugly now. It's real ugly his legacy oh and i feel you kind of feel back as he's he's so old now and he has a dementia real bad they say he doesn't know where he's at most still alive right still alive which is uh he's hanging on now yeah they brought him into uh where i'm from the chubbyville casino i think last year for some kind of paid appearance and they said it was like weekend and bernie's it's like guys just just basically just holding him up to sign stuff it was sad okay so

for the the 30 for 30 last week espn i didn't see it because they aired it at the same exact time as something else yeah there's thursday night football yeah they had to compete against that there it is and it's not by the way it's it's not on again until december 11th i looked through the on-demand thing because i was trying to just deviate. I was hoping they ran it at like 3 a.m. or something. I was like, I was going to just record it so I could watch it. It's not on again until December 11th. It's impossible to find.

I can't fucking find it. Yeah, I DVR'd it. I'll give you my login. We can stream it. Thank you. Appreciate it. That means a lot. What did you think after watching it?

Interesting reaction from that thing. It was because it was very divided because I was reading last night and this morning kind of the reactions on it because I didn't watch it until last night. And it was very divided in the fact that some people were still of that opinion, like, hey, that's the way things were. You know, this kid, Neil Reed, the one that brought the most serious allegation to the forefront. Choking, right?

Yeah, the choking thing. He was just soft. He couldn't hack the program. That's not the program's fault. All this stuff. Just let it go. It wasn't even a bad choke. All this stuff. And then the other side... So they were commenting on how good the choke was. Yeah, basically. Like, it was brilliant.

He didn't even restrict the airflow. It should be allowed. He knew right where his car was. That's funny. The other half, of course, is like, no, he was this horrible monster the whole time, and nobody knew it, and kids just didn't blab back then. It was before social media. You can never have a Bob Knight now, right?

Never. You've said this many times. Yes, never. You can never have another Bob Knight because of social media. Yep. And you even now, so? Never. You've said this many times. Yes, never. You can never have another Bob Knight because of social media. Yep. And you even now, so you had a tough coach. Yes, Rich Rodriguez was a very, I think he was a very big of a hard-ass coach. I'm not sure it's going to be something easy to do.

You're going to have to get grandfathered into being a hard-ass because nowadays, without that resume, it's going to be tough to earn the respect of people to be able to be a hard-ass, if that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Now, I'm not saying he, because I don't know, you'll have to fill me in on this. tough to earn the respect of people to be able to be a hard ass if that makes sense yeah absolutely yeah now i'm not saying he because i don't know you have to fill me in on this i'm not saying he is like an equivalent of a bob knight but knowing he has a tough reputation you had to see some kids that just mentally couldn't handle it yes and just washed out yeah i'm out yeah they quit yeah or transfer or whatever it felt like rich rod Rich Rodriguez, every once in a while,

he would do something where he was trying to get rid of the weak people. What we were doing, it seemed like this is a ridiculous thing that we're doing. And in the moment, may not have understood why we were doing it. He was just trying to get the kids to quit that he didn't want there, basically. He was just trying to get them to quit. kids to quit that he didn't want there basically he was trying to get them to quit so it was conditioning or these 6 30 things that we would do these workouts we would do or right just the ridiculous things that would happen it was like he was trying to kind of separate the the the weak from the strong in hindsight that's obviously what it was but when you're in it yeah it's like yo

this guy's a fucking asshole and he was literally like he just wanted to see who would make it i think yeah which i think you know i'm an old guy but i think it's a good quality i mean i don't know it's like finding the more elite yeah the navy seal test is not an easy one they're looking for right to become the navy seals and if you're a big program that everybody wants to go to, like IU was at that time and West Virginia was. No, we were not, by the way. We had nowhere else to go. That's why we thought he could do it to us.

We had nowhere. Everybody else there, we had nowhere to go. We fell to West Virginia. It's not like we had anywhere else to go. So whenever he went to Michigan, we knew his shit wasn't going to work because those kids got options. Those kids got options. We ain't got no options.

But if you were running a basketball program, though, where everybody knew it was going to be hard fucking work to get in there, you're saying Bob Knight just wanted to see who could make it, who couldn't make it because that quality of grit, by the way, can be faked, but it't be it can be sought it can and this is where i after i'm glad i watched the documentary because the first part of it i was like oh it's going to rehash the whole shit the old shit that i lived through in 2000 when this all came forward yeah you know you thought you knew everything yeah i'm like oh we know well what

he added in this it showed a lot of the behind-the-scenes battles that they went through to even get that 2000 story off the ground because Bob Knight was so fucking powerful with TV and everybody because he sold. You know what I mean? He made NCAA a fuck ton of money. A lot of money. Even beyond IU. Every arena he went into sold out.

Yes. He was the Beatles. Yeah. And to see how much power he had, even over an independent reporter for CNN and Sports Illustrated, was pretty powerful. It gave a real dictator-type feel to him that I didn't think about. He almost ruined some journalist careers in his day.

Never did. If he fucking hated you And you were an Indiana sports Reporter And he fucking hated you He could end your career You know He had that much power And

And And people also associated With the IU program And then It shows Neil Reed That interview with Neil Reed And then they did follow up Neil Reed passed away in 2012

Of a heart attack I guess he was born With a heart condition I saw by the way I saw a lot of tweets To Dan Dockage about Dan Dockage. Dan Dockage, I guess, was a part of this. Yes, he was at that practice. Yeah, he says that he was on the other foul line

when the choke happened on the other end of the basketball court, so he never saw it. But he did say, he said he spoke up for it. I saw him fending off a lot. There was a lot going on on Dan Dockage's Twitter while it was happening. It's wild to think that Dan Dockage, a guy we know who is now a personality, was a part of this huge 30 for 30 situation very much so.

Yeah. I mean, in 2000 when this came out, it was the biggest thing in sports. Was his name mentioned, Dan Dockage's? Yeah. Neil Reed, his story, he claimed that Dan Dockage, he listed a bunch of people that broke the two of them up, which wasn't covered in the video because the video shuts off right after the choke and the coach pulls his hand back.

But he claimed— Isn't that convenient? Yeah. He claimed a bunch of people broke it up, and he said, I think Dan Dockage was there and helped, but at least acknowledged he was at the practice. Dockage was taking some heaters on Twitter the practice um and i here's what was taking some some heaters on twitter man dude i here's what i wonder in my mind because i don't know where his allegiance stands with night right now but so through this whole battle and getting the

story released there was iu was threatening to sue the cnn and all these things which are slowing it down and then surfaces of the fucking tape it gets mailed to robert abbott the reporter uh the journalist was working on the story and uh he called iu officials cnn had everybody in for a big meeting to watch it for the first time and it all there was no return address on it it was anonymously donated to this abbott guy but it was the stamp was postmarked in Ohio. And I'm pretty sure, I'd have to look at it, in 2000, Dan Dockage was coach of Bowling Green, Ohio. Dockage, no, Dockage said he knew who it was.

Okay, so it wasn't Dockage. Dockage said they knew who sent the video. They knew who sent it to him. Had to be a staffer, right? No, yeah, he said that some guy was claiming to have it for. Hold on. Let me scroll back to Thursday night. Doc.

Itch. I do love that about. This is interesting, by the way, because they did not release on the documentary. Yeah. Doc. Itch did. I'm telling you, man, he was because it was Thursday night football was happening. Right.

Thursday night football is happening. So I'm just scrolling through Twitter. Doc. Itch is just like he's talking about the 30 for 30. I'm like, is that on right? There's no way it's on right now is what I was thinking. And then I guess it was. I didn't even notice.

Let me. And I missed it. I missed the whole thing. Yeah, it came out at like 7.30, I think, so it ran. That was a weird time. Yeah. I almost want to call him and have him on. The one guy said that he used to hate everything about the Ndakis,

but now he's come around, he likes his stuff. Oh, I am. And the Ndakis just put, haters be liking. That's exactly how it is. He used to go at Michigan State, and Michigan State used to go at him. So when I'm in high school and college, of course, I'm like, oh, fuck this guy. I love him now.

That's why he goes at everyone in the big tent. Exactly. I just texted him. I would like to have him now. That's what he doesn't hold. He goes at everyone in the big tent. I just texted him. I would like to have him on. It was cool about the no read part because I was one of the people that they were showing in the documentary that was like, fuck no read, hanging from a tree, fucking, you know. If I would have been living on campus, I would have been lighting shit on fire just like he did. Ty just put his finger over to the edit button. Ty just slowly moved his finger over to the edit button.

That was in the documentary, Ty. Yeah, they actually had Neil Reeds hanging from trees on the campus of IU. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so if I would have been on campus, I'd have been in there in the mix because in my mind, I'm like, Bobby Knight's basketball genius, what the fuck are you talking about?

He's just a soft kid who couldn't hack it. And then now you look at the documentary and all the gaps are filled. It's more like probably he wasn't the strongest guy mentally, even though he was a tough player. But three years of being mentally tormented and tortured just ate this kid up. It ruined his life for a long time after IU. So I felt bad because now I'm like, ah, I think this was Coach Knight's fault. Is Dockich on the line?

Dan, nice show. Ah, no. Okay, Dan, I know you're a busy man. I just want to ask you about your Twitter on Thursday night. Yes, sir. Okay, so I was watching Thursday night football. I scroll through my Twitter, and all of a sudden I see you on a run, on a Twitter run, answering people's questions,

going after some people who are saying things to you. I had no idea that the 30 for 30 on Bob Knight was even running until I saw your Twitter. And then we started doing some research. You were in it literally through the whole thing. You were in that whole Bob Knight thing. The whole thing. The whole damn thing.

That's not true because after the season, when Neil Reed finally quit and all that, I had gone to Bowling Green. I had gone to interview, I don't know, but basically through the whole thing, yes. But for the firing and all that stuff, and when Reed finally did quit, I was at BG. So I'd left at the end.

Todd here used to be a detective. He said that that film, yes, that film, the practice film of the choking came from in Ohio, and he was wondering if you had any connection to it. I said no. I said no, no. I said Dan actually tweeted who it was, I think. Yeah, Ron Felling, assistant coach, who it's interesting.

You know, Felling told people that he had the tape. And, in fact, he told assistant athletic director, he made it very clear, like, to a lot of people to don't lie. In fact, the trainer, Tim Garrow, who's still there, lied. And he called me up. He goes, hey, will you tell Felling not to give up that tape? So I called him and said, dumbass, don't give up that tape. What are you doing

and you know he felling was a good friend of mine actually and uh yeah he he and reed's dad were best of friends and in fact um if you watch that tape there's a guy that walks right across in front of neil reed and coach knight as coach knight's grabbing him, and that's Felling, who, as I said, was the mom and dad's best friend. In fact, Felling, the guy who gave up the tape, ultimately got Terry Reed, Neal's dad, his old high school job in Lawrenceville, Illinois, which Terry screwed up. But, yeah, a lot of stuff going on there, my brother. Well, Dan, how did you feel about it?

Because you were there for, what, Neal's freshman's freshman year yeah i'd have to think about i think i was there long and i think maybe he left sophomore year i you know people i'm old man i'm 56 i can't write like i don't remember uh neil and we knew his dad we knew his mom we got we got him jobs all the time in fact neil's sister worked in our our office because the family was broke. So, yeah, but I was there two years with Neil, I think. Well, mentally speaking, like IU was known for mentally tough ballplayers. How would you rate him mentally? Did he fit in with that mold or was he a little soft up there?

Let me put it to you this way. He was tough on the court in terms of of doing what you gotta understand now i'm on a podcast here and the guy died so if you say anything even remotely negative right people kill you right i saw you getting crushed yeah i saw you getting crushed on twitter for that i saw you getting crushed yeah right i mean you're getting crushed so neil was a okay guy i, the portrayal of him as a guy on an island that nobody helped or nobody protected is completely false because, as I said, I mean, the dad's best friend is the guy staring at night grabbing the kid. You know what I mean?

And so Neil was okay. I mean, he wasn't exactly – he was tough on the court. You know, they showed some things once or twice that he did. But he wasn't – I don't know. What seemed to be a perfect match really wasn't a perfect match between Indiana and the Reed family. Let's put it that way. How did you feel about the 30-for-30?

You said on Twitter numerous times that it felt like it had a slant to it. Anybody who really knew anything refused to be a part of it, basically. Is that – yeah, that's kind of your view? Yeah, and, you know, Pat, you can, I think, appreciate this. Like, you know the slant. I mean, they're not doing a 30 for 30 to tell the story of Bob Knight helping Ryan White, you know, the kid from Cicero, who was really the first eight.

They're not doing a 30 for 30 to talk about him helping Lane and Turner. You know this, Flan. And they asked me to be in it, and I said no. I said, look, two reasons. One, if I'm going to comment on it, I'm not letting you all edit it. And as I know a lot of you understand, Pat. Yeah, because you say 10 good things, one bad thing, they're going to use the one bad thing.

True, that makes sense. Then the other thing was, my thing is, you know, this was all rehashed 20 years ago or hashed out 20 years ago with specials and breaking news and interviews and Jeremy Schaaf. And I told the guy, Robert Abbott, I said, why don't you just let him die? I mean, Coach Knight is living his life. I'll let him live his life. He's 70-some years old.

his life. I didn't, you know, let him live his life. He's 70-some years old. So I didn't, they wanted to come in and, you know, I just, I don't know. I'm not, look, I have no relationship with Coach Knight. I don't want a relationship with Coach Knight. I don't have any respect for Coach Knight.

So I got really no reason to defend him. But, I just, it was like, alright, I mean, just let the guy live his life man you already went through all this i'll give you one example of how like like bias we knew it was going to be there's a there's a picture or there's a kind of a montage of coach not yelling and one of the things that they show is him yelling at the students behind the basket to put this sign down well they make that seem like a bad thing well truth of the matter is they had

a profane sign i was sitting right there and i told them to take the sign down it was it was derogatory towards a a player on the other team and you know this day and age it would have been considered incredibly offensive and but they you know they put that as a negative so you know i know how to i know how i know how i know how that was going to go so i didn't need to be involved yep i respect it well you on the other side of the foul line on the other foul line on the other end of the court if you could go back in time and you're on the other side i think the whole world's a much different place dan if you're not shooting that free throw on the other side if you're shooting it on the near side it's a whole

new world dude i was actually walking and i'm like and then you know then fell you know it's just it's just it's it's odd how like you i i don't remember the film like like you know pat as coach as a coach coach night and i used to watch practice film every morning like 10 o'clock in the morning and i've said this for years once it came out i go i don't remember that day. Like it doesn't, you know, I may have left after that day to go recruiting or the next morning to go recruiting. I don't know, but I'm telling you, I don't know how, like I saw when I saw the tape initially, I thought, and it was like in 1998 or whatever. I was sitting in my house at BG. I'm like, holy hell. What the?

But then I started thinking, like, how did we not see that? Like, how did we not watch and see that? But I don't know. Maybe I went, I don't know. But it wasn't on any tape that we saw. So you're saying that film, the first time you seen it was when you were already out of the program You had no idea that that film even existed No I knew it Well I knew that Felling had told people

That he has a tape of Night But I hadn't seen it Did you think the grabbing of his neck Was more severe than what you had envisioned When you actually saw it Or did you think it wasn't as bad I don't really know I remember when you actually saw it, or did you think it wasn't as bad? I don't really know.

I remember talking to Neil after it, and this may be weird to people, and people don't understand this, but Neil Reed didn't quit like the next day. Neil Reed actually never quit Indiana. Neil Reed left Indiana later on at the end of the year when Coach Knight made up a fake team vote that said the players wanted Reed and Andre Patterson off the team. So petty

by the way. That's one of the most petty things I've ever heard in my entire life. Oh. I remember I was at Bowling Green. I was either interviewing for the job or just got done, and I got a call from one of the guys saying, hey, you're not going to believe this. And I'm like, what?

They go, well, so that's when Neil, like. Oh, my God. Yeah, we all voted. Hey, yeah, we all voted, by the way. This is amazing letting you go. It's your team letting you go. Yeah, I just want to let you know, we took a little vote here around the locker room.

You weren't here. It was kind of like a survivor thing. You ever see that? Everybody wrote it down and put it in a little barrel. Hey, that's when Neil, like, people think that they see Knight grab him, right, and they say, oh, he quit the next day. No, I'm telling you, and this is going to sound incredibly weird.

Felling and the dad were such good friends that, you know, it just didn't bother. Like, I went in the locker room after. I'm sure the players talked about it when they went amongst themselves, you know what I mean? But it wasn't like any big deal, and people can say, well, that's messed up. Well, you know, I don't know, but i know this neil did not quit and and me but again the idea that neil didn't have any support or anybody you know his dad was in communication it stayed at felling's

house damn near half the time the other assistant so he had plenty of plenty of people there to help him out but uh yeah that's when neil decided see people say oh man he grabbed him and then you know he uh he quit the next day no not even no didn't i'm telling you i don't even think he ever quit many of us here in indiana had when that first happened that and they released that even once we saw that i and i was on the bandwagon of neil was lying until the video came out but even after that people of my age, I'm 47, we had problems with, like, our coaches did worse than that when we were in high school.

You know, even when we saw it, we're like, oh, I've been thrown around way worse than that. That doesn't make it right. It just makes it wrong. And you definitely should be punished for it. Different, whole different world, though. Yeah, but I remember we were like, well, what's the big deal? Okay, that happens, and then you play better,

and it doesn't happen again. Hey, Doc, did you hear Tua? Did you hear Tua Tagovaila? Yeah, yeah. About his dad getting him the belt? Did that, if he didn't play well, he got the belt? Yeah. I'm surprised his dad's not in jail right i said on the air one time i was

doing my son's game in michigan i said on the air i'll tell you what he makes another turnover his ass is sleeping in the garage and like people lost their mind on me right i mean because you know we're all the social justice warriors came out in full throng, right? Like, you can't say that. I go, well, yeah, I can. I just did. Let's talk about your style. It's funny because I had a football player at Indiana that played for Bill Mallory, who was like beloved. He said, hey, he goes, come on.

There's got to be more to that. He goes, I saw Mallory take face guards, put guys in the dirt. 70-year-old man got in a fist fight with a nose tackle, his last practice after he'd already been fired. A fist fight. Again, I'm with you guys. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's right at all.

And, in fact, I went nose to nose with Knight, telling him what a jerk he was for doing it. But at the end of the day a lot of people that watch that said what right like huh yeah yeah it's a whole different world man that inside look is a whole different road i know you got a show to deal with but i know you got a show it's about to go on it's going to be a nice show it's going to be a nice show it's going to be a nice show man i'm going to get on a little bit of a roll here. Things will be good. Don't worry about it. I don't want to take up too much of your time,

but this is kind of your thing, by the way. Your thing. On Thursday night, it was your thing times 1,000, by the way. I'm so happy that you were right in the middle of that 30 for 30. People killed me. People crushed me. They said, well, if you were there, why didn't you do that? That's the one thing.

People think, and I get it, Why didn't you do that? Like, that's the one thing. Like, people think, and it's, I get it, but people think that Neal didn't have, you know. Allies. Or nobody helped him. Hell, like I said, man, his dad's best friend was our assistant coach. Hey, what school.

He's the guy standing right there in front. What school hates you the most? What school hates you the most, Dan? And why? I didn't feel much love out of Louisville the other day. You broke some news. You broke some news. Well, you broke some Louisville news.

I broke some news that really wasn't accurate-ish. I'm even close, but okay. Hey, that happens, man. I don't think West Virginia, 16 years later, your boys are still on my ass every time my face pops up on TV. So they're not big. Michigan State chanted about 12,000 a couple years ago, we hate doctors.

Your story. It's my ringtone now. What school was it that said a guy was going to send a sniper in? Oh, that was Iowa. That was a state trooper. He said, if anybody's in Carver-Hawkeye and you've got a gun, shoot dockets in their head. And then he called me to apologize. He goes, well, you know, and you got a gun. Shoot Dockage in the head. And then he called me to apologize.

He goes, well, you know, I got a big personality. I said, yeah, man, that's all great, but shoot me in the head. Dockage, you as a human are one of my favorite characters of all time. I want to let you know that, and I appreciate you so much for joining us. Of course, man, of course. or one of my favorite characters of all time. I want to let you know that. I appreciate you so much for joining us. Of course, man. Of course. Tell them about our trip from the airport to freaking Bristol.

Tell your boys about our little trip the other day a couple weeks ago. It was good times. Good times. Doc, it was my chauffeur from the airport to Bristol because I didn't have a car, so I hopped in there. I thought we were in the wrong city a couple of times, had a little bit of a moment. It was tough. Hey, my man, look, we're in Hart wrong city a couple of times. Had a little bit of a moment. It was tough.

We're in Hartford, Connecticut. Hartford freaking Connecticut. And there's like a gym that's the size of my head. And it says like the small town garden gym. My man looks at me and says, that would have Celtics play? It was an arena. It was an arena.

I'm like, Tomaz. I go, that would be Boston, Tomaz. 100 miles away, but good guess. Nice. My man is beautiful here. Hey, have a great show. I appreciate you. Is this where Bob and Tom is?

No. I don't know. Are you on Bob and Tom right now? No, I'm just asking you i'm being funny you didn't get the joke oh that's on me that's on me hey your show will go better than mine he hung up docket who's a special character man he's. That's like his thing. People hate him. Like, that's his thing, though.

Right. Like, that's his thing. He's a great villain. And he does not care, by the way. Uh-uh. What did he say? I think we had 15,000 in Michigan State telling me I suck. I remember the whole thing with the Iowa, the state trooper telling someone to kill him.

Listen, that, yeah, they sniper. Yeah. It was a fucking sniper. That's the thing. That type of thing is in Dockage's DNA. Yep. Like that's in his DNA. Right.

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Got a chance to talk to Pat Anger about something new and exciting in his life. This guy is a fucking gem. I had some high school basketball stats guy tell me that you were wrong, so that made me feel good. I've gotten a lot of both. There's no right answer. The only right answer is one man and one man alone. He's from Iowa, and he is now a tag team champion of Iowa.

Former NFL great. Of the world. Of the world, sorry. Former NFL great. Iowa Hawkeye legend legend he's a father and he ended a tag team match this past weekend in iowa with a middle finger than a stone cold stunner and americans american pat anger how you doing how you guys doing man thank you for having me on brother how you're the tag team champion of i. How could I not have you on? Of the world.

Of the world. All the countries, everything. How'd it go? You wrestled this past weekend, and you got some training from Seth Rollins' wrestling school. Is that correct? Yes, sir. Yeah, yeah.

He's from right around where I'm from. He actually met my kids. We went to a Riverbans game, a small little baseball team around here. And he took some time to meet my kid and got to talk to him and got to talk to Merrick Brave, his old partner who kind of runs the gym down there. And, you know, I had to get involved, man. It's a good time. You know, you're like me. We grew up wanting to do this. Amen. And figured I'd train with the best. it's a good time. You know, you're like me. We grew up, we grew up wanting to do this. Amen. And, uh, figured I'd train with the best. How attractive is Seth Rollins in person? God,

especially when he doesn't have a shirt on. He's got the long hair. Whoa. Unstoppable. I keep him away from my wife. I don't let her go down there. Okay. So how long had you been training for your match on saturday you were in a tag team match at the hawkamania in iowa right that's what it was called

yeah yeah scw pro um hawkamania seven was up in iowa city um i that was probably my fifth time ever in a ring that's not bad bub it's bad. You look like you knew what you were doing in there. Well, I mean, you know, I'm the youngest of, I got three older brothers, so they pretty much, I mean, we've been doing this shit for a long time. They've been kicking my ass for a while. So it's nice to be on the other side of it. You know, especially going against Vicious and Delicious, really just terrible guys. I call them VB for short.

They're really filthy. They're dirty. I made sure to wear a bunch of protection. I showered before. I showered after. Nice. And, you know, they didn't stand a chance. No way.

Not with you and your partner who was? The one called Mander. Steve Mander. Home Rival fullback. Guy's been wrestling for a couple years. I was fortunate enough to get in the ring with him and whoop some ass, man. Okay. So you, Big E, and the one they call Mander Manders Steve Manders so Iowa's becoming the Iowa football team

is becoming a hotbed for professional wrestling absolutely man absolutely and then Kittle Kittle was in the ring about last year I think he stunned somebody you're his life coach I think. He stunned somebody. You're his life coach. I think you would know. That's true. I almost forgot there for a second. I'm doing so much stuff. I lend out great-priced mortgages all day. I lend out high-priced ass-kicking on the weekends. In the meantime, I'm

being the life coach for the best tight end in the NFL. It's an amazing journey. Do you have your belt with you right now at the bank, right now at your work? I should. No, I do not. I think it's in some museum, like the Wrestling Hall of Fame or something like that.

I want to say they put that in there. But I'll have to break in tonight and get that out and put it on my desk. How bad does the body hurt? Just so people know. Does the body hurt? No. people know. Does the body hurt? No, but, you know, I didn't really take too many bumps. Yeah, those guys are obviously pretty weak,

so I didn't really take too many bumps. But I'm feeling a little bit. I'm a professional athlete, though, Pat. You know how it is, man. Of course, yeah. Me and you, we are in our prime right now. Without a doubt. Of course. Yeah. Me and you, we are in our prime right now. Without a doubt.

I mean, this is as good as we're going to get. Do you have to defend your title at all? I kind of want to go. You should. You should come down and you should do an announcement. You should announce it. Oh, my God. I'll tell you what.

I do miss doing that. I enjoy a good announcement call, a good announcement. When are you defending your title? It'll probably be in February. I think it's like February 19th or something like that. Are you going to get all juiced up? Are you going to take a bunch of roids and just get all juiced up and become the guy over there? Probably, yeah.

Absolutely. I mean, might as well, right? probably yeah absolutely i mean are you gonna train are you gonna try to stay in shape or is it gonna be the same thing are you gonna be like a uh are you gonna get into it or are you just gonna take a break until like january until you have to get back into it i think i need to get in shape because i was pretty tired i was pretty tired after that. I was pretty tired. But, yeah, I think I'm going to train a little bit harder for this one. Initially, when this fight got booked, I had two training sessions that were really good, and I ate clean, and then the rest of the 30 days I kind of drank beer.

Maybe I'll actually try to get some abs for this. Worst case scenario, I just get a spray tan. Listen, I am all about the spray tan. It's my new thing. Not my new thing. I am all about a spray tan. It makes you look thinner automatically, immediately. I need that, man.

I need a lot of help with that. Did your wife go and the kids go? She did, yeah. My kids went up there. Well, my 7-year-old and my 4-year-old went up there. And after I won the belt, my 7-year-old, who was too scared to get in the ring, he stayed and hid. But my 4-year-old ran down, and I brought him up in the ring,

and we gave him the belts and carried him around the ring. It was pretty cool, man. What a moment. Was there a crowd losing their mind at the moment? Oh, yeah. I mean, there was tens of thousands of people there. To have them cheering my boy on was pretty special. Tens of thousands?

Yeah. It might have been 100,000 people. I'm not for sure yet. Did you watch football yesterday? Not really No What's up with the Colts? I thought they were going to win

I picked up Andrew Luck He's been doing real well I was like, hey, I'll pick him up on fantasy You play fantasy football? Yeah, so me and my friends I got three friends We have a we have a fantasy um football league where the loser has to get a unicorn tattoo oh so week 16

week 16 the bottom two play for a unicorn tat and the loser's got to get one um so it's getting pretty squirrely here toward the end a little bit tight it's kind of nerve-wracking are you in the bottom two obviously yeah i am i'm in the top two but my team is is kind of it took a little hit you know with um with all that stuff with the uh guy being an asshole to the girls and all that stuff but uh yeah my my team's had a tough little tough little run. Andrew Luck scoring zero points against the Jacksonville Jaguars was very much a heartbreaker for me. He's been on a hot streak, man. Hot streak.

And I might be wrong here, but I feel like we struggled in Jacksonville always. Yeah, you know, I want to say, yeah. Yeah. I was trying to think. They had some good running backs back in the day and they still do they got some they're pretty tough it's a tough matchup for us i think that's like i feel like we always struggled down there i don't think there was ever and then in london

when we played and we lost to them over there i feel like jacksonville is a tough matchup for the colts i do it's because they are literally drafting they were drafting for a while just to beat the Colts for a long time right that's like the Bills team I mean they're running games I always thought who's that dude Jones Drew MJD those big ass legs fuck it hey man I saw him

I saw him the other week and he's very he still looks like he could run some people over he's a larger man right now, a very comfortable pet. Did he say anything about the SCW World Tag Team Champ? Do you want to take a shot at it? Are you taking all challengers? I am. I am.

What if Maurice Jones Drew was like, I want the SCW, what's it called? What's it called? What's it called? Seth's Championship Wrestling. Is that what that is for Seth Rollins? It's something. It's something cool. You don't even know what it is.

Yeah, it's something pretty awesome, man. You're a fucking idiot Have a great day Have a great day Pat I appreciate you Hey congratulations man Being the SCW Pro champion is not easy

I'm happy you did that. It isn't. And not everybody can do that. I'm the only person in the history of the world to make tackles on Monday Night Football, be George Kittle's life coach, and be a world tag team champion. Only person in the history of the world.

Think about that. You should think about putting that as your Twitter bio. I can't spell all that shit you know that you're an idiot a full-blown idiot have a good one man make sure those interest rates are low on those people today okay what'd you say make sure there's low interest rates for the folks that come in today. Absolutely, always. I battle interest rates. I battle champions.

I do it all, man. Bye, Pat. We'll see you. The Pittsburgh guys have joined us in the studio. Rough weekend, boys. Rough weekend. You both were back in Pittsburgh. Brought terrible luck to the city.

How do you feel about it? Diggs at Nick Moroto. I wouldn't put it on us. What do you mean? I mean, I wouldn't say luck to the city. How do you feel about it, Diggs at Nick Moroto? I wouldn't put it on us. What do you mean? I mean, I wouldn't say it was our fault. How do you figure? That we were covering Keenan Allen with linebackers. I wouldn't put that on us.

Hey, Keenan Allen is a stud, by the way. Oh, yeah, he's always been very, very good. I did not know he was that good. I had no clue Keenan Allen played like that with a hoodie on. Neither did the Steelers' defense, apparently. Oh. Found out real quick, though. I'll tell you what. I had a bad gambling weekend.

Another one. That happens. We're stacking them on top of each other here. It's not going well. But I had my get back. Uh-huh. Was the Steelers. Yeah.

Money line. Get back. How'd you feel at half? Great. Uh-huh. Me too. It felt great. Me too.

Felt really good. Me too. And then all of a sudden, you just kind of watch it all unfold. Them Steelers are in a bad spot over here. I was starting to think blowout at half. Yeah, yeah. I was like, okay, here we go. So was Goldsworth.

Prime time. They might throw a 50 on him. Yeah, he did. He did say the 50 spot possible. Yeah. I've been on the other end of one of them before from the Steelers. I don't know. What the fuck happened?

I really don't. I have no fucking idea. Hey, that team's upside down right now. No. Yeah. I wouldn't say upside down. I mean, they didn't score zero points against the Jags. Look at you playing a little defense early.

I mean, look, there are two ways to look at it, right? They lost to a great playoff contending team by three points in the last second of a game. That was gifted, arguably, two touchdowns. I don't like to complain about the refs a lot, but the one point. Hey. How? That was bad. I won't say to complain about the refs a lot, but the one- Hey. How? That was bad. I won't say a thing.

And why can't you review everything? Why can you not review everything? These refs these days have all these outs. If forward progress is stopped, like they said, with Swope going out of bounds, that's like the trump card on everything. That is everything. That I'll never understand either. He was fucking out of bounds.

Plain as day. How about old Corenti, or not not Carrente, Steratore, Gene. Oh. Oh, Gene Steratore. By the law, I guess you can. He's a Pittsburgher. Yeah. He says, by the law, I guess you can call it that.

But in that, I think he's out of bounds. You stopped the clock there, Gene says. I'm like, thank you, Gene. These fucking assholes on there. But why can't you review a false start? Why can't you review a pass interference? Why can't you review a pass interference? Why can't you review a hold? These are huge penalties being called by terrible refs.

And for some reason, you can't review it? I think it's strictly because, like, you were doing the Texas Tech-Baylor game when any time there was a review, you were like, God damn it. No, but the things they were reviewing were dumb. But they'll still do dumb ones, too. I get it, though. Yeah, I wish there was a review. Like, the coaches should be able to review whatever.

And if they get it right, by the way, they get to keep their challenge. Not they have to get both right. No, fuck you. If they get one right, they get it back. If they get one wrong, well, they lose that for sure. They should lose their right. Because it happened to the Drew Brees as well. They challenge early.

They get one right. Like, no, no, though. You still don't get any. You still don't get any because we fucked up one time. You got it right. But no, no, no. We still don't get any you still don't get any because we fucked up one time you got it right but no no no we still don't get i just i don't like the whole review process and i'm staring into the microsoft surfaces i talk about this all the time last night they had a shot of like it was like a down shot shooting up on the rough shooting that thing was so small if they would have just opened that camera up just a little bit there is a 100 yard 4k jumbotron a hundred they can even zoom in on the jumbotron they the capabilities are there

now i don't understand why they can't just look up there get a third party person in the booth in the in the jumbotron running area whenever it gets to review have the third party ref just get in there and be like all right here we go boys on the headset look up to the jumbo drone everybody in the stadium will look up at it then you zoom in you can even zoom in on the thing boom there it is it'll make it much quicker instead of getting out their fucking glasses at the very least have

Microsoft make a bigger screen for them yeah just for them just for the NFL it's not hard just to put it on wheels and roll it out those things are iPhone tents yes those those Those things are iPhone tents. Yes. Those Microsoft services are iPhone tents. Small little things. But that's neither here nor there.

False start, touchdown. Punt return, touchdown. Things seem to be going the wrong way, but the Steelers look good early. Yeah, I mean, they always look good early. They've blown a couple leads this year. I don't put it on the rest. I'm not going to ever put it on the rest. Ben fucking threw a fit.

Who knows what he did in the red zone again. He just threw it up 60 yards in the air to see what was going to happen. Then he overthrew Justin Hunter who's playing for some goddamn reason. Because James White should have caught the ball last week. Ben Roethlisberger said it on his show. 93-7 to fan. James Washington is still much better than Justin Hunter.

James White or Washington? I said the wrong name. I saw a stat today though that Washington has played as many or more than DJ Moore snaps. And he has 77 receiving yards. Yeah, yeah. I don't know who DJ Moore is. He's a rookie for Carolinas. Well, I would like it to be known that Ben Roethlisberger will inform us of why he threw that interception.

And that's why you've got to love Ben Roethlisberger. He's going to let us know whose fault it was, who did it. It was a red zone interception, so that's five on the season for him. League leading, which is good. But I can't wait to hear why somebody else did that to him. It was Derwin James' fault. I assume he'll blame it on him. That guy's good at football, huh?

Yeah. I don't know how he fell. He was supposed to be going to number eight in all the mocks, and then he went to 17, 18. They talked about it last night, and they were telling the truth, too. They were like, nobody has a clue about this Los Angeles Chargers because they're the number five regional game each week, and they're 100% right.

I literally tweeted out, and nobody crucified me for it, is Keenan Allen always this good? And nobody crucified me for it is keenan allen always this good and nobody crucified me everybody was like yes he actually is yep and it's all the chargers fans like yep every week he's like this because they nobody knows him like so as a player going into that game you know this is the only time anybody's gonna see me yeah this is the so if you want to make a pro bowl or something like that the the only time you're there, you have to show out. You have to. There was a couple of Colts seasons there where we were not good,

and it was like, okay, this is the only game that anybody will see me play on. Like, it's a real thing. And Derwin James embraced the fuck out of that. He's good. He's really good. And Keenan Allen, obviously. Steelers are fine, though. They go 2-2.

They still win the division. I was ready to quit last night and not watch another game this season, but I woke up this morning and old Barry, Pittsburgh Barry, gave me a little motivation. One-year anniversary, Barry Bondor, whatever his name is. Yeah, yeah. You want me to play a little Barry? Please do.

Please, I would need it. I watched it this morning on my way in. Somebody happy one-year anniversary. I got a tweet about it. So when you posted it, I was like, phew. Pittsburgh is the best place to live. I don't care what anybody says. If you gotta do some cleanup,

hey, it is what it is, but we're still number one out here. That sums up the season right there. I was ready to give up. I was like, Barry's like, we're still number one out here. He's like,

if you gotta do some cleanup. And I looked at the division standings, we're still number one out here. Yeah, you gotta do some cleanup. You gotta take care of some things in the office during the week and then we'll be fine. You to do some cleanup. And I look at the division standings. We're still number one out here. Yeah, you've got to do some cleanup. You've got to take care of some things during the week, and then we'll be fine. You've got to do some cleanup. Oakland's a nice pick-me-up game.

Hey, Oakland, by the way. They look pretty good. I had the Chiefs plus or minus 15, I think it was, or minus 14. Yeah. And early, it's like, yep, we're crushing. This is just the sign of my gambling this year, this last couple weeks. Gruden's got them fighting out there

in the Bay. Nobody would have guessed. Don't give up on that team. How about my bookie, anonymous gambler, throwing out those prop bets. He has Mahomes at 23 pass attempts.

Mahomes comes out and throws like 12 in like the first drive. And I'm like, oh, there's no way this is hitting. Hit it on the money. They're fucking so good it's one guy money by the way it's one guy oh yeah anonymous game anonymous gambler is a guy

and i do know him and i do not know how he is so fucking good that guy i have no idea how he's so good everything he does except for the beat pat mcafee stuff except for the beat pat mcafee which is great by the way by the way we By the way, we're doing Ikea. I'm building something from Ikea this week. Get your bets in on Beat Pat McAfee on mybookie.ag. Promo code PAT. You get 50% off. I told you that earlier.

It's the best gambling site on earth because the guy that's doing all the fading is an actual guy, and he is hilarious. He is a hilarious human being. He was taunting people down in Costa Rica showing his house in Costa Rica. He's posting photos of his backyard

pool and his hammock. All thanks to us. He's a fucking guy. He sent us a heavy bag too. Yeah. I think it's so that I can punch it if I ever beat it. I have that leg drop by the way. That moonsault, the toss yeah yeah i think it's so that i can punch it if i ever beat it okay you know what i mean because

i have that leg drop by the way i had that moon salt the toss onto the my bookie thing i think he sent this so he was it was like he's always two steps ahead he's always he's he sent that ikea thing what two weeks ago he's like yeah we're doing the ikea thing in a couple weeks people will love this and i think it's always just what he does in his personal life yeah and he's like ah this would be good. Like the perfection. That's how perfection came to be. That's how this Ikea thing is coming to be.

I'll be excited to see how I do. How'd you feel about the NFL Sunday, though? Did you enjoy it? I did. I'd like to apologize to the Colts fans for my shot earlier at the zero points. I'm just mad. That was a tough game. Hey, I heard that was Luck's first time ever being shut out.

First time in his whole career. I feel like that's probably accurate. Is it accurate? That's what I heard. There aren't a lot of shutouts. There was a game where Vinatieri never stepped foot on the field. So he literally never stepped foot on the field, so he didn't score because he had a scoring streak.

Yeah. And he never stepped foot on the field, so it didn't count. I wonder if this one, this might have been Vinatieri's first game never scoring. You're right. Because he was on the field, scored, take the points off the board. By the way, hindsight, come back later in the game, need that. That's good. You never take points off the board.

That's what they say. That's the rule. Never take points off the board. Unless you're getting a first down inside the 10, inside the 5, which they did. It's tough. It's going to be tough not to take points off the board. But Adam Vinatieri was on the field. Penalty off the field.

Doesn't score the rest of the day. I wonder if that's no points for Vinatieri. That's tough. Probably. That's probably a record that's been up in the hundreds of how many games he's straight. Wow. Fucking Jalen Ramsey.

NFL Sunday was great because we were driving back from Pittsburgh. But technology, I had Red Zone just on my dashboard the entire drive back. Just keeping up with everything. Yeah, yeah. The poor Bills. Oh, my God. He ran for, what, 815 yards, they said? 815.

That's absurd. Josh Allen was just scrambling for his life, 815 yards. If that throw was just a little bit better. Charles Clay just dove a little bit further. Oh, my God. The heartbreak city. It's not like Charles Clay is a bum eater. It's not like Josh Allen doesn't have the arm to get there.

It's just poor Bill's mafia. Dude, they see him scrambling. They see the throw in the air like a punt, too. It's like, and they see a guy wide open. The Bill's fans are just like, are you kidding me? We're going to win because of this? This is awesome. And then you just see it almost get caught and just like suck the soul out of Bills Mafia once again.

No chairs, no tables, no dildos, no win in Miami. Hysterical. Bills Mafia does not deserve this. And then the Bears collapse, comeback, collapse, that made me laugh. Onside kick, by the way. Is that the first one of the year? Odell was standing like 30 yards off the line. I don't know why he was that far back.

Business decision. I don't know why you got Odell Beckham as your hands guy. That guy's going to take a shot. That guy's going to take a shot. That guy's going to take a shot. So it's like that person has to be ready to take it. We had tight ends in there normally because of how big the shot's going to be. It was a great kick there by Cody Parkey, though. Sam Martin tried a surprise onside kick.

That was fucking terrible. On six yards. That's hard to do, by the way. I would like it to be known. I have successfully done surprise onside kicks at an alarming rate. Those are hard to do, though, because there's a lot of fast. It's a lot of things that are happening. Bounces.

Touch has to be perfect. Ball isn't round. That ball is shaped weird. But that wasn't good for Sam Martin. No, not at all. It's a tough look. I'd like to remind everyone that America's sweetheart threw three interceptions in the first half yesterday.

Who's that? Baker Mayfield. Everyone's fucking savior in Cleveland. Plus five and a half, by the way. He's plus five and a half. Texans are good. Texans are really good football team. I like them a lot.

I like them a lot. Their defense gets after it now with Hopkins and Demarius Thomas and fucking Lamar Miller's actually running the ball now too Deshaun Watson yeah really fucking good oh yeah I was forced to choose between Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun which was very rude of Greeny it was he's wearing Louis Vuitton shoes and it was rude that he did that to me Deshaun Watson's the truth Deshaun Watson's a really good football player I it sucks that he got hurt last year for Houston because they were on a nice run then. They were scoring like 40 a game.

This Houston Texans team might be something to really reckon with, but ain't nobody going to touch the goddamn Patriots. No. They're back. Nope. It's the Patriots, man. It's just what the Patriots are going to do. We all thought we had the Chiefs.

We all thought the Steelers maybe. We all thought somebody in the AFC will do it to Tom Brady and the Patriots. For the world, basically. For the world. You're doing it for the world. For the world. We thought this was the year where potentially we had somebody. And it just seems as if all signs are pointing to the Patriots again.

All signs. I've been on the opposite side this year where I'm like, ah, they're still the Patriots. But now that I watch them, I think they're beatable. Bill Belichick is telling people to shut the fuck up. I hated that so much. You hated it? I love Adam Fitzgerald.

Oh, come on, Diggs. Oh, my God. I love Thielen, and I hate Belichick. What do you think I'm going to side with? I hate Belichick, too, but I thought it was awesome. Awesome. So cool. What are you talking about?

I'm on Thielen's side there. I cannot believe you as a- You gonna side with the dark lord yes whenever the dark lord does something that human i'm a big fan of that i'm a big fan of him well i assume they was telling him to shut the fuck up too yeah i think he was in it with hogan he was getting into it with hogan because they showed hogan he's the better white receiver feeling is he was letting hogan know it i wonder i because those two i I feel like were saying something. Like, hey, man, I could come take your job at any point. Maybe that's when Bill Belichick goes, shut the fuck up.

You ain't never played lacrosse one time. Bill Belichick. Yeah, they're good again. They're good again. They're good. They're good again. They're going to do it. They are.

We all know it. That's what the Patriots are going to do. It's a shame. It fucking sucks. Dude. Listen to the room here. We are a it. That's what the Patriots are going to do. It's a shame. It fucking sucks. Dude. Listen to the room here. We are a microcosm of society. Yeah.

Listen to the room. Now, when Connor comes in here later, it's going to be a complete honor. It was a terrible weekend for everybody except for Connor. Let's see. What else? Pens lost? Yeah, of course. Pens lost.

Pitt lost. Dummied by Clemson. Doors blown off. 28-point underdogs not even close and you were home saturday yeah you can blame saturday on me if you want i'm not taking sunday did your parents win at the casino i don't know actually i wanted the casino you went to the casino oh yeah what did you win down there just 100 bucks what'd you play uh craps and blackjack nice i was up like 350 400 on craps and i got And then I went to a guy.

He rolled the point. And then I put, I got money on all the points across. Seven came out immediately. Happened two times in a row the next two guys. So I walked away after that and then I went over blackjack

and won a little bit. But you know, overall. Was it the Giglio family in that casino? Oh yeah. What's your dad do? Craps? No, he sat at the bar

and watched football. My mom and I played craps and blackjack. My brother went and played some slots, and my dad sat at the bar and drank. Your dad's the best. We had some fans there, too. That's awesome. Yeah, they wanted to give you a nice shout out. They were like, where's Pat?

I was like, hey, it's first off weekend in like three years. It's very nice. I was napping. It was very nice. Very nice. I thought about Italian Club merch. You thought about it so did my fucking dad you know i called him yeah yeah i called him so he's like dude i got i almost had a heart attack today i had got a call from indianapolis number and i thought for sure you were either in jail or you died he said hello

or he said uh mike yeah DiGuglio's phone. Or something like that. And I was like, I forget how I let off. I think it was just like, Aziz. He was like, hey, pal. And I was like, we need to get this Italian club merch. You guys have any logos or anything? He was like, we got something.

We can think of something. So he brought me a shirt. It says, you can't play bocce without big balls. And then it says, love it. And then it says love it. And then it's like Italian Renton Club. He's like, you want this? And I was like, we might be able to do better than that. I don't know.

Dude, I cannot wait for Italian Club shirts. I cannot wait. He was very excited about it. I was allowed in. He said I'm in the Renton Italian Club. Oh, there you go. He told me. That's all you need.

Well, I got.0. I went over to my aunt's house and had this great big pasta dinner, this whole spread. It's awesome. My aunt's like real old school, real conservative, nice family evening. And in the middle of dinner, she goes, Nick, I read something you wrote recently.

And I just died a little bit inside. I was like, oh, yeah? What'd you read? She was like, it was about you getting pinkeye? Oh, yeah, yeah. And I just wanted to let you know, it was really well-read. She was like, I had to skip through a lot of the garbage that you wrote, but the way it was put together was great.

Did you tell her thanks? I did, yeah. I was like, thanks, yeah. You got to tell her, do it, you know? Yeah. How about your aunt reading blogs? I was impressed. I was like, I didn't even know you knew how to do that.

Look at that. That's good news. Pens suck this year, huh? They're not great. What's that all about? Matt Murray just disappeared. Is the NHL happening right now? Well, the good news is hockey hasn't started yet.

There's a lot of time left. Is hockey playing right now? Mm-hmm. Preseason. Preseason, yeah. For you, yes. Yeah, for you guys, preseason. No, this is preseason.

No, we're in it, baby. We're in it. This is regular season? Oh, yeah. How many, like 30 games? These games matter. How many games in are season? Oh, yeah. How many, like 30 games? These games matter. How many games in are they? Probably, yeah, almost 30.

30 games in? Yeah, something like that. Probably mid-20s. I know. I had no idea this was happening. I know. So we're in the middle of Penn season right now? We're in the middle of Penn season?

Yeah, but don't pay attention to it right now. This isn't the good stuff. We're not doing good. Not until January. We're just treading water. They're right outside the playoff spot. Penguins are like the Patriots. Yeah.

You could say that. People hate the Penguins because we're so good. Uh-huh. And once we just figure it out at one point, and then you just know the best player on earth, Sidney Crosby, is going to guide them to at least the cup. Yeah. Are you worried?

No, not right now. There you go. You seem worried. They're like three or four points out of a playoff spot. There's a lot of time left. You said the goalie just seems like a shell of himself. The goalie's pretty important. Yeah, he hasn't played well.

What do you mean? But the whole team hasn't played well either. So they're just kind of bullshitting around? They're top heavy right now. They're not getting any secondary scoring. They're just laying in the weeds. They're waiting until it actually matters. Are the Pens going to suck this year?

No. You look in the weeds. They're waiting until it actually matters. Are the Pens going to suck this year? No. You look at the division. The division's being led by the Rangers and the Islanders are having years that no one expected them to have. They're going to drop off at some point. The Islanders. I saw Frankie Borelli. They opened up their arena again.

Yeah. Is that what they did? Yeah. They had a game out there at Nassau because they've been playing in Brooklyn at the Barclays, right? And everyone hates it. They're rebuilding that, I think, aren't they? Yeah. They got to build a new arena over there on the island.ays, right? And everyone hates it. They're like rebuilding that, I think, aren't they? Yeah.

They got to build a new arena over there on the island. Sort of moving them back to the island. Yeah. So the Islanders and Rangers are doing well, and they're in the division of the Penguins? Mm-hmm. Never would have guessed that. Couldn't have ever guessed who's-

The good news is the Flyers also stink, but they beat Pittsburgh on Saturday. We lost to Gritty. Yeah. Hey, how about him draining a half-court shot looking like a fucking athlete? He can do whatever he wants. That guy can't skate? Can't skate. Hit the splits right after

he hit it, too. Who is this guy? Who is this guy? He's giving Benny the Bull a run for his money. Hey, these mascots, some of the most athletic humans out there. Unbelievable athleticism. Benny the Bull, I mean, he caught a couple charges because he did some things to an undercover cop during a game.

But that fucking thing. Really? I guess he like assaulted a police officer. He slapped him. So that's on the police officer. He did like the popcorn gimmick and then he hit him. I think something happened. Yeah, I think something bad happened to Benny the Bull.

I think Benny the Bull did something bad. They had to bring in another one. Maybe the cop was asking for it. I don't know if it was a cop, to be honest. I don't think I fully understand the whole fully understand something happened with the popcorn gimmick though where you're throwing popcorn everywhere and something but if you watch these mascots some of them are very but the jacksonville guy jacks he comes in off a fucking uh like off a zipline off the top of the stadium and he's just hanging upside down over the stadium. It's dangerous. It's insane.

The Pacers guy does the back flips, the spins, the trampoline dunks. He lifts the whole thing. It's impressive. The Colts guy blew, threw a ball the same day we were there. Threw a ball from the top balcony into a trash can that was down on the field. While we were there, he did that. During the game game first try yeah these mascots i think deserve a little bit more athleticism credit starting to think it's

fixed so i think i'm gonna dig in this a little bit maybe next episode i bring i think either you're a gymnast or excuse me a gym teacher or a mascot because gym teachers are good i get the gym teacher and everything gym teachers are good everything you don't have to move your feet at. Yes. That's so good. They'll make a thousand free throws in a row. They're so good at anything you don't have to move your feet at. So they're not really at a...

No, they are. They're skilled. They're skilled. There you go. That's what I'm looking for. They have great dexterity. Anything you don't have to move your feet at, they're very good at. Yeah.

Very, very good at. Don't play a gym teacher in a free throw competition. Or they throw a horse. You don't have to move much. Ping pong. What about like pickleball? I don't think I know what that is. It's like mini tennis pretty much.

Or like badminton. Oh, you mean shuttlecock. Well, that's badminton, yeah. Yep. But pickleball, it's tennis on just like basketball court. See, now people say in badminton you have to run, but if you're good at badminton, you don't. Right.

Especially if it's doubles. Keith Nonenberg, that fucking guy, he was a gym teacher yeah he's incredible at anything you don't have to move your feet and in badminton he'd have your ass fucking running even on tennis he had me fucking running back and forth so he wasn't even moving in that sports he he was the guy that really that was the guy that i made the the analogy that he's better than me right now in high school, when I was in high school. Anything I don't have to move my feet. If there's any athletic advantage, I can get him.

But if it's just strictly off of talent, he's great. Golf, the whole thing. Most gym teachers are incredible at golf. Yeah, they're just very good athletes when they don't have to move. You get them moving, though. We fucking got it. We fucking got it. We fucking got it. Who won the Monday night game last night?

Well, it was a tough game between Eagles and Redskins. Of course it was. And that Washington football team's taken some quite a PR beating. Colt's tough. Colt McCoy's a tough kid, though. I like Colt McCoy a lot. He's an old gunslinger from Texas. You know, hook.

Okay, cool. Horns Don, by the way. What's that? The NCAA made a ruling against horns down? Yeah, on sportsmanlike conduct, if anyone from Oklahoma did it. Just like you. He did WVU, too. Just like you can't do cutthroat gator chomp like they used to do.

They used to do gator chomp, cutthroat. Yeah, I used to love all that stuff. Yeah, it was great. Yeah. So, wait, horns down is now. Horns down is 15, yeah. It's 15 now. Why?

WVU, I think it happened... Honestly, I think it might have been WVU's fault. It might have been WVU's fault. Classic. Well, we just... We got introduced to a new conference, you know? So we got new rivals all of a sudden. Yeah, yeah.

It's like, all right, what does everybody do against everybody else? Texas, everybody does... Oklahoma does the Horns Down. We're fucking doing that too. Hey, Texas, fuck you. How about that? How does that make you feel? We're on the other side of the goddamn country saying that.

And I think it became something where the NCAA didn't like it. I understand. I don't. I don't understand it. Why can't it happen? It's not like a gang sign. They're not throwing up a gang sign. Fuck them until they go to 18 playoff.

You want eight teams in there? Yeah. I would like an entire NFL playoff. Preferably 16, but I until they go to 18 playoff. You want eight teams in there? Yeah. I would like an entire NFL playoff. Preferably 16, but I'm not going to go that far. I'd like an entire NFL playoff. That's what I would like. I said that on ESPN and I was, well, then what's the rest of the season? Because the college football people, what they like is that every

game is considered, but it's not. It's not. UCF wins every game. They will never be allowed inside of that thing because it's all. It's not. UCF wins every game. They will never be allowed inside of that thing because it's all money-driven. This thing is all money-driven. It hurt Georgia. If they would have been in the same position Notre Dame was in, they would have got in. Independent. If they were independent, they could have done that.

Every team schedules one or two powderpuff games a year anyways. Just get rid of them. Yeah, but Notre Dame's got like six of them, I think. They've got like six of them because they're independent, so they get to schedule literally whatever whoever they play fucking army and air force and all the you know those schools every single year by the way great tv for mbc to have notre dame take on the army it's it's great i understand why they do it all but you can't tell me that that's all just because of the the ratings is it's all judgment. It's all skewed.

They have to add games. They have to. It makes no sense not to. You thought Ohio State was potentially going to get in after saying they weren't going to get in. Well, yeah, just because that's how my life goes. I personally thought that there's no way that Ohio State should have been in. But as soon as I put out a tweet out that said that they definitely weren't getting in, I thought for sure they were getting in.

This one's going to blow up in my face. That's just the way my life's been going lately. So it's Alabama-Clemson, right? That's what's going to happen? Yeah, probably. They're scheduling for Alabama-Clemson, which is what everybody wanted basically from Jump Street, right? Exactly. Should Saban be fired?

No one's asking that question. Jalen Hurts should have been starting all year. I saw you tweet that. You were such a... Did you get people that thought you were serious? Oh, yeah, of course. Oh, my God. Twitter is the worst.

Of course. People thought that I was serious, that Jalen Hurts should have been starting all year. He fucking balled out, though, when he came in. Yeah, he did. Pretty much the opposite of what happened last year in the championship game. Yeah, he finished the game. By the way, they said he called his own run. That's a great call.

They said he called his own run at his request. Yeah, yeah. At his request, he wanted to run it in. I wanted Bama to lose so bad. I mean, they still would have been in the playoffs, but. It would have been Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Notre Dame. Georgia had no shot. Georgia had no shot.

They had no shot. Nobody. Who was that? Alabama, Oklahoma, Clemson, Notre Dame? Yep. What if Notre Dame gets a win there? What if it's Alabama, Notre Dame? That would be a huge.

Those ticket prices would be outrageous, those ticket prices. Yeah, they would. Notre Dame fans are. Oh, yeah. They're a loyal bunch, right? Yes. And Alabama. You think Alabama wins by how much?

Just like they did when, what's his name? Matt Tateo. Yeah, they won by 40. Alabama won by 40. That's ugly. You think Alabama beats Notre Dame by 40? At least 30. You think Georgia's the only team

that could take them to task? Yes. If the line on Oklahoma and Alabama is 14, the line for Notre Dame and Alabama had to be at least 21. You think Oklahoma's better than Notre Dame? Yeah, for sure. That team's pretty good.

They're fun to watch. It's a shame that it's his last year playing football. He's going to play baseball, right? Yep. He's got $7 million waiting on him? Yep. He's making more than his head coach. Or no, sorry, they put it just below his head coach,

so he wasn't making more than Lincoln Riley. So Kyler Murray, as soon as he retires, as soon as he leaves football, he gets that money, right? Yep. He doesn't have that money now. It's just sitting there waiting. So the Yes. He doesn't have that money now. It's just sitting there waiting. So the NCAA said he can't have his money now. You can't have this money he earned in another sport in high school

that another league that we do not control decides that he gets. He can't get that money yet. Just whenever he's done playing for us, he can get that money. Fuck the NCAA, man. Still a student. Still a student athlete. Student human athlete. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a. Still a student athlete. Student human athlete. Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a student and a human first. And then he's an athlete. I'm going to start pushing for student human athlete. I like that. Yeah, I'm going to start pushing for that. I like that a lot. Thank you.

I appreciate that. Did you see the thing where Jimbo Fisher was talking about one of his receivers? He made like a great catch. I think it might have been in the LSU game. It was, yeah. And he was like, you know, I mean, I'm not going to say much to him. That's his job. That's his job.

It was the most ridiculous thing ever. Job. It's not a job. He's a student. Right. He's a student athlete. He doesn't have a job, Jimbo. No.

Jimbo gets it. Jimbo knows what's up. Hey, Jimbo, his job is to graduate. He gets a degree for free. Jimbo, that's his job. His little hobby of football on the side. That's just something you all are lucky he does. Fucking NCAA.

They're not good. They're tough. I saw on Saturday. They're based in this city. Like a billion two-a-jerseys in the crowd on Saturday. No, no, they're not two-a-jerseys. No, those are... Some of them actually put the fucking name on his back.

Those are Kmart special number 13s. Exactly. Exactly. Not a dime. Rudolph. They're coming for Rudolph. Bro. Bro. That is a story of triumph. That is a story of accepting yourself. That is a story of

confidence and perseverance. And they are taking it the complete wrong way. That story means a lot to a lot of people who have a lot of things. A lot of things. It's just your time. You gotta wait. You gotta buy your time. And when it's your time... Jalen Hurts was Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.

Jalen Hurts was just biding his time and then when it came, it was his time to shine. He did that. Rudolph showed him the way. Rudolph. Who's going after rudolph everybody same people that you can't play baby it's cold outside christmas story also because there's a bullying scene another scene where the bully gets his ass kicked which is what the world needs your generation your generation your generation foxy hey man i i'm telling you what first gen millennials

you guys second gen millennials i think i'm right in the middle. So I think I'm both. I think I'm both. Oh, you want the good of us and the bad of you. That's what you want. You are the reason. You are the reason Rudolph is not going to be playing. No, no, it's that, what is it, Gen X, where that kid is 18 years old and wants to vote at 16 or something?

That kid on CNN, what's his name? I don't know. It doesn't matter. Don't need to know it. Don't ever want to know. They're coming after everything, man. Everything. Rudolph.

Nothing's safe. You can't look at something that was made in 1964 through the lens of today and say, well, that's problematic. Well, yeah, of course it was. How about Grinch? We're going to go after Grinch? Yeah, they're coming at the Grinch next.

That guy tried to rob an entire village while living up in a mountain. Unbelievable that they would treat the only person who didn't look like them the way that they treated them. No one's safe. Grinch is gone. Fuck the Grinch. It's not like the Hoos were a great player.

Charlie Brown? They're coming after Charlie Brown. They should. I mean, he pulled that fucking football out from Tommy Lou Who. Charlie Lucy pulls the football from Charlie. Yeah, Cindy Lou Who. Grinch. Charlie Brown, you get it.

But really, I mean, that's to your point. That new Grinch is so fucking watered down. It's unbelievable. It has to be because the is so fucking watered down, it's unbelievable. It has to be because the things we're saying right now. Oh, yeah. Like, Cindy, what's her name? Lucy. Cindy Lou Who. No.

Oh, Lucy. Right. Lucy bullied Charlie by pulling that football. You know how bad that hurts your knee? You can blow your knee out doing that. She psychologically tormented him. For so long. And that movie still plays?

Wow. Unbelievable. Hey, heavyweights, have you guys seen that recently? Oh, dude, it's the best. It's a PG movie. I know. Nowadays, it'd be rated damn near R. It wouldn't get made.

No, no way. No way. Lunch has been canceled due to lack of hustle. Congratulations. Deal with it. Deal with it. You are now the fattest kid in town. Couldn't do that.

No way. But what are they going to do? Try to erase that from ever being made? I know. Yeah. That's what they're working on. There's got to be a group of heroes out there that just make movies just like that again. No way.

Those people get buried so fast. I know, but I'm saying there's someone who has already made a fuck ton of money. The Saudis. Okay, yes. We need the Saudis. Whoever's running Dubai, we need to contact them. I don't care if I get torn down. Hey, we can make every single one of them.

Like what we just did. We can make every single movie. Like the Santa Claus. like what we just did we can make every single movie like um the santa claus how about how rude they are to um scott calvin when he says he's santa claus they treat him bad they tell him he needs counseling because he's he believes in himself yeah they start they start excluding him from things they take him to courts they can't even see his kid because he's delusional he just believes in himself. What about that?

What about how they treated Scott fucking Calvin? Problematic. I don't want to see that movie on anybody's TV. Get rid of it. Home Alone? Are you kidding me? The parents left their fucking kid at home for that long? That's terrible parenting. They should go to jail.

What are their names uh his parents kevin kevin mccallister mccallister i almost said to murphy's the mccallisters should be imprisoned they shouldn't be celebrated with their movie playing every single year is there even a minority in home alone i don't think there's one cast member wow wow wow completely whitewashed. That movie still plays? Wow. Wow. Watched it last night. Well, how about what they do to the fucking pigeon lady in the park? Yeah. Despicable. Oh my god. Trash can man.

Exactly. Get rid of it. It's gone. Just a nice old man. Get rid of it. Any others? Elf. Are you kidding me with the way he fucking is treated By his dad By his actual dad It's unbelievable the way he's treated

Sat in a corner put away like he's like a zoo animal He's not a zoo animal he's an elf It's a person There's a person in there Unbelievable Here's another one gone Is Christmas on the Is Christmas

Are we worried about Christmas being cancelled It should be Starting to Do you think about Jesus ever Here's another one. Gone. Is Christmas on the... Is Christmas... Are we worried about Christmas being canceled? It should be. Starting to. Do you think about Jesus ever? Why Christmas is to be the way it is? That guy was literally killed for being himself. Cancel Christmas.

Cancel. I'm happy we got to the bottom of this. Here we go. I'm worried. Because bullying. Because of bullying. Jesus was bullied. Oh, yeah. He was the first not probably not the first but if we never if we don't celebrate his birthday then it never happened then

the bullying never happened and if we don't watch uh rudolph the red-nosed reindeer then bullying doesn't happen in real life if you look different it just doesn't happen if we just don't watch it if you don't watch uh the bullying scene in A Christmas Story, then bullying doesn't happen in real life just because it never happens. Because you don't watch it, it never happens. Exactly, that's how it works. So just like the Santa Claus, like the making fun of Scott Calvin,

like that'll never happen in real life if we don't watch that movie. Correct. So we have to not watch those movies because they won't happen in real life. Because there's no bullying before movies. Exactly. Exactly.

Those are all lies. It doesn't teach you how to overcome bullying it perpetuates it by the way don't even think about listening to any music any and not just some like baby it's cold outside can't don't listen to that obviously obviously but any song mostly was created by somebody on some sort of drug. Somebody was smoking the wacky grass at some point probably in any of the music. Do not promote something that somebody who was... Tom Petty? Oh, no, no, no.

No. Last Dance with Mary Jane? Are you kidding me? Don't listen to it ever again. It's a drug. And if you don't listen to that song, marijuana won't exist in real life. So don't even worry about it.

Don't listen to anything. Don't watch anything. I'm happy we figured this out here. That's what this show does. Good for us. Good for us. Saved Christmas. We saved Christmas.

By ending it. Zito, how are you feeling going into the weight loss challenge? Zito and Connor, the pub has fully joined us here. Zito, how do you feel going into the weight loss challenge in January? I feel good. I feel really good. What does that mean? You feel heavy?

Yeah, I just ate a lot of pasta right now. It's good for us in the long run. How is it getting uncomfortable how much you've been eating here lately? Oh, yeah. 48 pounds in two months is very impressive. I know. I know. What do you weigh now?

Do you know? I don't know. He's about to hop on the scale for the first time since last week. He's 260 pounds. 259.4 pounds. You lost weight? I lost weight. What are we doing?

How do you lose weight? I used to do big shit, too, though. A little basketball. Oh, it was the basketball drills. It was. It literally was. It was you guys. You told me not to do the basketball drills.

I did it. This camera, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that one over there. Zito's fucking with you. Don't let that happen. Don't worry. Why do you think he's losing weight?

I know, Zito. I'm scheming over here. My issue is you're living in the enemy's chambers, basically. I got Evan. Evan's like the devil, I guess, or the angel. I am telling him to pack the pounds on. Well, he just lost a pound over the weekend there. You guys were running full sprints, wind sprints last week.

The pub was running a full practice wind sprint. If Fox is helping Zito gain weight, I mean, you got some trouble, because I don't think Fox has been over 180 pounds in his life. He has a fast metabolism. How was the pub this weekend? Great. It was awesome. Quick shout out to Ian from SeatGeek. Unreal guy.

College football running back. A little NESCAC football action up there in Colby. Division 3. Yeah, no big deal. You're forgetting his best alkylate though. What's that? The best chugger of Rome. He's the champion of Rome. He won a chugging contest in Rome at one point. Probably

in college when he studied abroad if I had to guess. He won a chugging contest in Rome against other military people. Military members. Everybody that was there. He won. Good for him. Proud of him. He was doing full pass sets in here on Sunday for like punt. He said he was onoud of him. He was doing full pass sets in here on Sunday for like punt. He said he was on the punt team.

He said he played wing. So he was doing pass set, which is the blocking technique. He was doing them in the office and stuff like that. A little pass pro. I thought, you don't really have a low center base. It seems like you get run over. He said, I did. Yeah.

So he only played punt team one time. Good guy. Great guy. What was the drink? Was the drink of choice? The Elon Musk Mule. On Friday, the Elon team one time. Good guy. Great guy, yeah. What was the drink of choice? The Elon Musk Mule. Oh, on Friday, the Elon Musk Mule. Of course.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Out of this world. Up and coming, out of this world, yeah. It'll blow your brain away. I don't know. I'm trying to think of other alien puns right now, but off the top. It's a nice little crew neck, though.

That was the first time I, that was the debut. That's a good shirt. That's a good shirt. I had a couple. I have one with Albert Einstein, I think, and Bob Ross that have the similar, like they're on acid, their brand's on acid. We should make a couple of those ourselves.

I think it's a lot of money because the design is down there by the bottom all the way up to the top. To the back. To the back. And it goes down the back, too. It's like a mirrored shirt. Those are real fashion designers,

not just print something on a shirt. So the way you got to do it, though, is put a T-shirt on a t-shirt and have the design on the t-shirt. On the t-shirt. Like the Macaulay Culkin, Ryan Gosling thing. There we go, Z. Zito, a t-shirt of a t-shirt. $10,000

Richard Suter and smartest guy. Not a big deal. You think you're going to win that weight loss challenge? I have a lot of faith in myself. January 1st through January 31st. I have some secret pills as well. I'm not telling anyone. I am your manager. PD your manager pds pds they're illegal who says they're not legal well i mean if if you're guys taking fucking testosterone shots hold on hold on i don't think that benefits me though if we're taking weight pills then everyone should have the same no chance to take them if you can't get them that's on. This is like when Sean was yelling at Smitty. I never

really understood why he was yelling at him. I'm like, yeah, they don't test. I mean, if they do that, they do that. Fair game. I don't want to say fair, because it's not fair. Yeah, it's technically not fair. But we are not in a our team should help your team, because your team doesn't know. That's not the way this

goes. Whatever Zito wants to plug into that body of his to lose weight to win 10 grand, Zito can plug that in there without telling anybody. I might have a heart attack after these pills. No, don't do that. It's worth it though. Don't die. 10 grand isn't enough to die. No. It's not enough. It's not enough to die. It's a new car.

It's not a good one that you want. It's not one that you want. I was actually going to buy a Vespa. By the way, it's $9,999 to the winner. Yep. Oh, yeah. To be specific. How much goes to the manager?

I'm taking none. I'm all in it for Todd. I want Todd to get healthier. Yeah, but if you have no skin in the game, you're not going to be really as hard. I do have skin in the game. I want to be the best manager that this office has ever seen when it comes to losing weight. That is my skin. I want to make a name for myself in the health training world.

So all of a sudden we got maybe the next Tybo in. Yeah, I'm making a dent. Maybe the next P90X in the building. Not to mention that me and Zito drive home every day, so we pass multiple fast food places. I might make him stop here and there. So who knows? Maybe Zito has a week.

By the way, during this month, January 1st to 31st, I will have a chauffeur driving you around. Let's go. Just so that these things, and by the way, you might be put up in a hotel too. That's, get you out of this stupid ass pub. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, I will say though,

like originally the original like challenge we had, like they, or at least Evan knows. Yeah. I literally shut myself away from everybody. It incredible good we should it was like whatever we went out because i did the whole intermittent uh fasting portion of it where it was like i stopped at seven they would be going to get dinner at 7 like 30 and i can't eat sorry boys you really did too are you gonna do it again yeah that's the easy like this one of these stakes are high right now. I know. The stakes are high. My dad has entered.

Tim, we should get him in here. That changes the game, too. Go get him. He's going to win, too. Hold on, Ty. Oh, is he, Ty? Ty, are you going to be his manager? Oh, yeah.

Oh, really, Ty? I thought you were Team Zito. I was Team Diggs the first time because I lived with him. Oh, boy. He was never Team Zito. You set yourself up for a bad situation there. You see that? I thought I could make him switch for a second.

Oh, you thought maybe you put a little persuasion in there. Me and Todd have communication for days, too. I don't know if you guys already know, but every night I've been texting him. Hey, Todd, make sure we eat a little pizza before bed. Make sure we have some ice cream. Make sure we have some chocolate milk. So the communication on our end is flawless right now. Is my dad going to be able to talk right there?

Yep. We can get him right there. Let's get him a chair. Let's get him a seat. Okay, Tim McAfee has entered the weight loss challenge. Dad, how's it going? It's going real well. Okay, so January 1st through January 31st, do you know the rules?

No, I do not. Okay, you just said you're in. Tim McAfee is now working full-time on the Pat McAfee Foundation, by the way. Very excited. Here we go. Very excited for you. In the office. In the office.

In the office. Let's go. The office has had the addition of Tim McAfee and Jason McAfee. Jason McAfee will be working graphics and stuff like that, making music. Tim McAfee will be focusing on the Pat McAfee Foundation, which, by the way, good foundation. We have a good one. Absolutely. Excellent foundation.

You have been spearheading this thing for years now, but it's always been part-time because you had to do other work. Now you're going full-time into the foundation. Quick stats about the foundation. We are a foundation that gives scholarships to children and military families. That is correct. And to date, we have given roughly... Approximately $500,000.

...of scholarships to over 60 people. Correct. Yeah, I don't really pump it that hard either. No. It's something that we literally just do, raise money, I donate. We've given like $500,000 in scholarships. Every single scholarship recipient is a child of a military family. They have to answer an essay question, Pat McAfee Foundation.

We've done really cool things. It's getting a chance to watch. Like the first winner, she's now a pharmacist. Yeah, and she received multiple scholarships to pay for her pharmacy school. From us. Yeah, and now she's a pharmacist, and her dad was a – he was a – Colonel, I think. I don't know. He used to drop out of planes, though. He's a skydiver. dad was a, uh, air. He was a, uh, Colonel. I think he,

I don't know. He used to drop out of the planes. So he's a skydiver. He was a lunatic of a man. Yeah. It was really cool to learn about her. So we have a good time. Now Tim's focusing.

Five. Oh yeah. There we go. Five Oh one C three. Correct. So you donate to tax exemption, Pat McAfee foundation. The website will be up and he's built.

You're building the website, right? Yeah. I'm working on it right now, which is awesome. The website will be up and running and that is who you are losing weight for in january that is correct so it is a percentage of weight from january 1st to january 31st loss okay so right now it's beefing season for everybody zito's trying to pack on the pounds he somehow lost a pound so i don't know how that goes what will be your technique in this thing um a healthy technique really yes 31 days though you're gonna be battling against people who are not going to be doing it

healthy man i realize that i realize that but i don't want to do anything that's going to harm my old body yeah you are an old man now you are an old man todd also old maybe there's a plus minus percentage there like a handicap, if you will. For over 50? For over 40? Yeah, exactly. Are you trying to get a- Hey, I'm just trying to help my friend Tim over here, okay? Oh, is it for Tim or for Todd?

It's for Tim. Until January 1st. By the way, Ty wants to be your manager. Okay. I would be honored to do so. So Ty Schmidt and Tim McAfee are now a team? Can I be his manager too? What's team. Can I be his manager too? What's that?

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My idea this morning when I woke up, though, was like, you know what? Maybe it should just be body fat percentage, the lowest body fat percentage. So if you get to the lowest body fat percentage. Yeah. Yeah, like for instance, right now you're probably at like a 70.

That's what we're doing, body fat. No, yeah, you're doing a percentage of your weight loss. Percentage of your weight loss. Percentage of your weight loss. So in comparison to how much you weigh versus how much you end up weighing so that everybody's on a fair scale so uh body fat percentage is how much of your body is actually built up of fat so there's guys like terrell owens is down below like one percent body fat so he's shredded so

tim mcafee would like this to be who can get to the most shredded, basically? Correct. Wow. With just the healthy technique, too. You think just the health technique is going to do that in 30 days? Yeah, man. Clockdad has some secrets. He seems confident. Dad, be your old ass to slow metabolism. I don't know if it's going to work. Remember, I used to bodybuild way back in the day.

He was a triathlete, too. I think he has some Eagle Scout stuff he has under his belt. I don't know if the Boy Scout, Eagle Scout stuff he has under his belt. Nah. I don't know if the Boy Scout, Eagle Scout world will help him, but he did used to just triathlete all the time. The guy's gotten a speeding ticket on his bike before. That is correct.

What? A speeding ticket on his bike. A speeding ticket. Yeah. That is – can we get more from that? I have no idea how that even works. Where were you going? 50 miles per hour just pumping it out?

I was going about 53 through a county park. It's like speeding a bike up. Bike up, pull you over? No, I was a guy in a car. Guy in a car, and I see him. He's going up the hill. I'm going down the hill, so I'm flying down the hill. But I got to go back up the hill to get out.

Well, he waited for me. Smart man. Halfway up, he stops me. Oh, halfway. He waited halfway, too. Halfway up. Halfway up. And he goes, sir, can I see your driver's license?

I said, no, I got biker shorts on. I don't have any ID or anything. But you know, a bicycle is a vehicle, and you have to follow the laws of the road when you're on a vehicle. 53 miles an hour. He's a freak he's the fastest kid alive this is a 15 mile an hour zone you were going way faster than that luckily

didn't have radar you know yeah so the the thing about it is he he did that and then he did a triathlon another triathlon and the bike always seemed to be the issue. Because the last triathlon he did ended with my mom carrying me and Jason all the way back the fucking course. And meeting one man walking with a busted helmet and a broken bicycle on his other shoulder. Just walking the course. Click clacking with those bicycle. The shoes. Walking the fucking triathlon course with the bike over his shoulder and a busted helmet on the other side. He went down.

You went down into the woods and hit a couple of trees. Yeah, I had a blowout on a turn. I was doing pretty fast, probably 40 or 50 miles an hour. When you're breaking the sound barrier on a bike, that's going to happen, I guess. Right. It's going to happen. You're going gonna hit a tree or two he did his fucking little helmet was just in like he's just shredded the pieces shattered it

and he had the bike on his other shoulder and he's just walking click clack click clack click clack and my mom's like never again never again are we fucking doing this that was the last one right there that was the last one pretty sure it was that was the last one he was a freak though he used to be a because triathlon is no joke. We have a tie. Can we have a triathlon? Yeah. You don't want that.

A drinking triathlon. Well, he's going to break his bike. I'm going to win. He's a fucking fish in the goddamn pool still. Oh, you were a swimmer in high school, weren't you? Yeah. He's still a fish in the pool, though. He gets in the pool.

He does his little fucking... He does the whole thing. It's like he's... A little dolphin toss or something. Yeah, his little flips. Are you a freestyle A little dolphin toss or something. A little flips. Were you a freestyle guy? No, I was a breaststroker. Oh, me too.

Me too. Growing up. The room. The room lights up. Just simple mention. Gliding through the water right on the top. Yeah. I was a big breaststroke rider.

He had a couple pool records back in Pittsburgh. I did. I did. Had a couple pool records back in the day. Oh, Donner and Blond Knox? No, not Blond Knox. Z. He's the worst. He tried to say

Indianapolis with a Pittsburgh accent the other day and it sounded like he was choking. He sounded like he was choking on something. Don, Don, Indianapolis. It was so bad. Okay, so I don't know if it's going to be body fat percentage at the end. Because we would have to get a fucking buoy machine in here.

There's only one real way. There's people that pinch your skin and say that they can get it. Nowhere near accurate. You've got to go into this water thing where you've got to balance yourself. Oh, yeah, touch your buoyancy. Yep, yep. Jeez. Actually correct.

Good for you. Good word there, buoyancy. I'm actually a big buoyancy guy. Hey, how do you feel about the Steelers and the Colts yesterday just getting crushed? Very disappointing. It's terrible, isn't it? So terrible. Terrible.

I thought Steelers were going to win for sure. Yeah. So much drama there. And then the Colts, zero points. Not good. I never would have expected that. Do you know what the issue is here? There was one team that won on Sunday.

Yeah. And it seems like it just so happens to be fucking working out that it always seems to happen this way. There's this fucking evil team who's now talking shit to players. The coach is now talking shit to players. Whoa, whoa, whoa. And they just seem to be really getting it all together at the right time. Per usual. Per usual.

Patriots have to feel good. You guys have to feel good. I mean, I predicted this week four. I don't know why this is a surprise at all. You did. Going into week four, I knew this was going to happen. But again, we're going into Miami. We always have a tough time in Miami.

So who knows how that goes. But yeah, the Steelers losing was awesome for me personally. I know it was very upsetting for many people in this office, but yeah, I woke up a little extra happy today when I saw the Pittsburgh Steelers couldn't get it done against Philly Rivers and his nine kids. How do you, by the way, a nine on

the way. A lot of women in that Phillip Rivers family. That's insane. They put the mom at center, by the way, and Phillip a quarterback in their graph. No way. Mom should have been quarterback there, right? Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, I can't believe.

I thought that, too. When I saw they put the graph up because he has a full, he can assemble an entire offensive team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they had mom at center. Was he in shotgun or was he in all-out? Shotgun, yeah. Split back. Yeah, that would have been bad.

Hey, I don't care if Philly Rivers' wife is there. No one's taking that quarterback job from him, okay? From Phillip Rivers? Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter if it's a graphic. He gets no credit. He gets no credit. None.

He was slinging it, too. Slinging it. I think they beat the Chiefs. I really do. Oh, Chiefs. Oh, man. I don't know. Bad news bears.

Without a run game, it's just tough to have the whole team, you know? By the way, he went on TV. Did you watch it? Yeah. Did you watch it? I did not. It was bad. He was like, no point did I think he was upset about anything.

Like, he didn't have the face of like a- Going on national TV directly after that seems to be the wrong. You should probably disappear for a while. Yeah. For a little bit. Do you think he fired his PR team after the whole thing happened? I don't know if he had a PR team. It was probably just his agent who thought it was a good idea.

Yeah, I think it had to be something like that, and he was not ready. It was not good. There's no, well, yeah, not good. A lot of not good happening in that kid's life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think disappearing is probably like apology, like actually earning.

Right. Right? Yeah. So earning it as opposed to just going on national TV the next day and saying, made a mistake. Hopefully somebody picks me up and wavers. Yeah. His only line of reasoning seemed like, I think I deserve another chance.

Nobody deserves another chance. Hold on. Somebody said they deserve something. Ben Roethlisberger said he's earned the right to criticize people in the media. Yeah. You got to earn it. You got to earn it. Yeah. You earn it got to earn it. You got to earn it. Yeah, you earn it.

Nobody deserves anything. You got to earn it. But I don't think you earn a right as a starting quarterback for your team to throw your rookie wide receivers under the bus. I don't think that's a right that's earned. I think that's one that's given to you at birth, and it's called a douchebag. That's what I think it is.

Personally, but I mean everybody to each their own. All right, good. I'm excited, though, for this weight loss thing. Z, let's go. I'm it is. Personally, but I mean, everybody ate two each their own. All right, good. I'm excited, though, for this weight loss thing. Z, let's go. I'm so ready. Ty, what videos are you and Tim McAfee going to create for this whole process? I don't know. We'll see.

We'll come up with a plan. I mean, keep in mind, it's not about us. It's about the kids. That's right. You should just read and create. Wow. Wow. Oh, my gosh.

Hey, no, I want more of this because it's just fueling me to just shove food down Todd's throat repeatedly. We already got something cooking literally and figuratively for a little piece here for a preview. I think the only issue is those old ass dudes. Their metabolism is nowhere near. I'm facing this problem now And I'm 20 years younger than old buddy Yeah, it's pretty slow You know what I mean?

It's a very interesting thing I've eaten like shit the last five days And I can already see it Like whenever I was younger I could eat for like five months And be like, okay I gotta get back into shape here For like two weeks

I don't think I ever had metabolism growing up It wasn't there Zito Gaining 48 pounds in two months I got to get back into shape here for like two weeks. I don't think I ever had metabolism growing up. It wasn't there. Zito, gaining 48 pounds in two months is not an accident. I know. I don't have metabolism. That was on purpose. Zito, I don't care what age you are.

I almost want to get you on like Maury. You know when Maury used to do his episodes with the kids? You are the father. No, no, not even that. They used to do episodes before he found the recipe of just DNA tests. They used to do moms that their kids were overweight by 200 pounds. My 12-year-old is 250 pounds. And then old boot camp guy would come out here and say, I'm going to teach you hard work.

That whole thing. I remember that. I think I should do... Gaining 48 pounds in two months is like that show worthy. that is something that we should think about bringing in somebody to be like zito come on 48 pounds in two months at the age of what we get twists around though i could like train boxers to gain weight why why why if they have to go away class up i could train them how to get there oh yeah everybody wants to go away class up up, I could train them how to get there. Oh. Yeah, everybody wants to go a weight class up. Everybody wants to do that.

Colin McGregor did it. Colin McGregor? Conor McGregor. Yeah, and he lost. Nobody wants to go up. He didn't gain the right weight. You think he didn't have the Zito method of weight? Not enough. Zitology. I think you did

this strictly for this weight loss challenge, and I can't wait to watch you shine January 1st through 31st. I can't wait either. We got to get you out of that pub, though. Connor's a bad influence, I think, because he wants Todd to win. Hey, everyone has their own agenda. Hey, the pub sticks together, though. So deep down, I know where Connor's heart's going to be.

Although on this microphone, he might not show it. Deep down, pubs together. And he knows I'm buying a bar for the pub if I win. True. I just found out. Here we go. I just found out. Is Todd?

Does Todd know that his manager is pulling for somebody else? Oh, no. I'm not pulling for anyone else. But now this just turned into a win-win scenario, as they say. Three kegerators in there. A win-win scenario, as they say. Unbelievable. All right. Well, good luck to everybody.

I'm happy you're in it. Yeah, me too. And I'm happy you're doing the foundation full-time. That's going to be cool. Yeah, it's awesome already. It's going to be good to have you in the office. Yep. Yeah, that would be great.

People are dying to get in here today. I know. I love sharing the desk upstairs with them because we're like desk buddies now. I think we kind of moved your desk out, didn't we? No, no, the Twitch desk. We just pushed them out a little yeah yeah well zito stopped using his desk and just started utilizing only the twitch desk which makes sense by the way yeah so now there's a twitch zone basically you guys have your own area over there the middle of the mezzanine is the pat mcfee foundation area and then if we ever need a team meeting it's over here by the dryer race yeah the

brainstorm area in the lower area here this is by the Dryer Race. Yeah, the Brainstorm area. In the lower area here, this is where the bloggers kind of roam. Yep. Because the blog is about to be back up. Oh, yeah. The content creators are down here. The meetings all kind of basketball is down here. Yes.

Recording is down here. Upstairs is where the business is handled. Yep. That's right. Makes sense. That's where the business is. Makes sense. Tim McAfee was talking about bringing people in this office,

just showing them around so they can maybe do it. No, I didn't. Yeah, he did. First thing he said to me, he was like, all right, you know, we're going to have to clean this place up. I'm going to have people in here. I'm like, who the fuck you having in here? Hey, Tim, I tried that once.

It didn't go over very well. Just a heads up. I did. The first day Gorman was here, we got another guy here who might be working for us full time. I'm not sure. First day, there's some people shut up at the door.

He just welcomed him in. It was like four people just welcomed him right on in. I was like, hey, by the way, don't ever fucking do that again. Don't ever do that again. Well, the only people I want to bring in are the guys that are going to give us a lot of money. Or girls.

Sexist. Jesus. Got him. Got him. Damn it. You said guys as the unisex. Hey, guys. Yeah, absolutely.

The humans are going to be donating money to the badminton families. Right. The larger corporations and the big wigs. Yeah, because you're going to have to start handshaking. I think this is going to become a handshake biz. Definitely. It's going to be interesting. If you need some tips, we just got back from California.

We shook hands and kissed a lot of babies. Yeah. Unlimited. Yeah, we're almost professional handshakers and baby kissers if you need any help in that aspect of the business. Awesome. We're also very good at waiting in line. Very good.

Very good. That same place that they shook a lot of hands was called TwitchCon. Just lines everywhere to get in lines. That's all they did. A line for a line? Yeah, there were lines for lines. We made it through. Yeah, we made it through.

I mean, hey. They said there's one in Berlin. That's the European one, and I would love to go there. Oh, so you're letting everybody else tell me about it? Is that what you do? No, they're doing it themselves. Oh, are you on Twitch saying, hey, maybe we go to Twitch Berlin? We really are.

We really are. I don't know. You said this before, too, right? You thought that people were tweeting you because... Somebody sent me a tweet that was a direct quote from Zito. I know it. It was like, hey, Zito's really fun on Twitch. I would never use my own name. Don't fire him. I would use I. I'm telling you.

We haven't told them to say anything like that. They just want us to go to Berlin. I'll go with you. I'll be your guide. Oh, let's go. Hold the phone. Ich verstehe Deutsch sehr gut. Nice. What is going on?

He speaks German. Yeah. He speaks German. All I know is nice. Sounds like the foundation's taking a hit for those fucking five days away. Hey, you folks here in Germany, we want some money for military kids in the US. Oh, not again. Okay, so you guys want to go to Berlin?

When is it? No, it's really California. That's like the European one. I don't want to go to Berlin. It's next year. I don't like leaving America at all. I did it once. It was terrible.

Where'd you go, China? Yep. I'll tell you. In China, it's different. I always say that I love America a lot more every time I leave it. It's true. I think a lot of people who have never left America bash America because they've never been anywhere else.

They're just told what it's like everywhere else. And then once you go there, it's like, I honestly, I feel like I've been on almost every continent. I've really- Where's the best place you've been to? Germany was awesome. Wow. Germany was really fucking awesome. The people were very nice. Yep. Ireland, the best place you've been to? Germany was awesome. Germany was really fucking awesome. The people were very nice. Ireland people were not very nice to me.

Not at all. France people were terrible. Just where I was. French people were the meanest. Yeah, but I am literally the stereotypical American. So you want to know exactly how people feel about America? Drop me in the middle of their country and just see how they treat me.

Because it's honestly what happens. It is. Like Sean Latham would always tell me about what this country's like and shit like that I'm like Shawn I've been there and they treat you much different than they treat me right and he's like, what do you mean? I'm like Shawn you have dark hair all of skin I literally am just an American when I walk in there and they call me a stupid Yankee as soon as I said So it's very injured. My travels have been very interesting, but every time I leave, I'm like, I can't wait to get home. I cannot wait to get home.

And it might be because my bed is amazing, but also because I just, I think a lot of, just like a lot of things, people don't realize how good they have it until they see something else. It's kind of the way it goes. Yeah, that's for sure.

Put that on my card. I think it is. It is, yeah. Yeah, I think it already is. It is, yeah. All right, see it already is. It is, yeah. All right, see you later. Hey, let's fucking get out of here. What's up, Foxy?

Are we at 100 million yet? I think we're getting close. Dad, did you ever hear- But I don't think we're at 100 million. Did you ever hear how this- We're very close, though. Did you ever hear how this Twitch stream started? No.

Oh, it started with Zito and Connor walking into my office on my dry erase board with me and Foxy sitting there and writing the word 100 million on the board, really large, and saying, that's how many people are fans of gaming, and that's how many fans we will have. We have roughly 120 viewers a day. Wow. 120, period. Could be way worse. We have now over 5,000 followers.

What? Yes. I didn't know that yes and not to mention fortnight just reached 200 million users so we're not at 100 million now we're at 200 million my friend you see what just happened yeah did you see now they're sailing race yeah yeah exactly we doubled that 100 million and i'm not saying it was just us but we helped let's assume that the fortnight people or the twitch people who are giving these numbers are doing very similar to what zuckerberg was doing with their facebook numbers just lying completely about it never do this is amazon okay hey oh hey let's just let's assume the numbers are being fudged

they're not gonna lie let's assume it's at least 50 million right they're not gonna say 200 million if it's not blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean? So, it's 190 mil. You think they're a 10 million exaggeration? You think it's a 10 million exaggeration? I think it's nail on the head, honestly. It's a free game.

So, yeah, 200 million people bought that for nothing. Okay, let's go back to the celebrations that need to be had. You guys have 5,000 followers, subscribers? Yes. Congratulations. Hey, thank you. That's very awesome to hear. I mean, it's a process growing in the gaming community.

Yeah. Hank Baskin said it right. You honestly got to earn these guys' respect. Yeah, and so, you know, we're climbing that mountain of respect right now. And gross. Yeah. Oh, no, I don't see gender at all.

I just see it all together. It's not like a colorblind thing. Can you imagine being colorblind? I have a friend that's colorblind. I said it numerous times.

Play Uno with colorblind kids is the best. It's the absolute best. It's like their dreams. No color. I don't know if that's true or not. Yeah, who knows?

He never had color at all his whole life? No. We had, like... I used to, like, look out for him, too, when people would... Because the natural... Oh, like, red light, green light, the game?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, he knows the colors of certain things. So when somebody would ask a question, I would just mention that thing, and then it would be the answer, right? So it would be, like... So, because it's very hard not to... I did it to him for, like, a year

when I found out he was colorblind. It's very hard not to be like, what color is this? And I not to, I did it to him for like a year when I found out he was colorblind. It's very hard not to be like, what color is this? And I'm like, I don't fucking know, man. I'm colorblind. And it gets,

it gets to a point where it's very annoying. So we had like a little code. Is he all colors or did he just not see like green or red? I think it's pretty much all of them. Pretty much all of them. Wow. Seeing the black and white. Yeah.

Chris is pretty much, I think Chris is pretty much black and white. Yeah. Usually it's like a blue and red or green. Oh, Larmond. Yeah. Yeah. No way. Yeah. We had to, he told me nice black and white. Yeah, usually it's like a blue and red or green. Oh, Larman? Yeah. No way.

Yeah. He told me nice shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all the same. It was gray. It's all the same. It's all the same. It's all the same.

But there was times where we were playing a team and we had to change uniforms because he couldn't tell the difference. Wow. Yeah, we'd be like blue because we were a purple school and we'd be playing like a blue team. And he would like embarrass, at the beginning, it was kind of embarrassing. Like, is there any way we can just wear white?

Is there any way we can just wear white? Yeah, that's a real thing though. That's a real thing. Oh yeah, the Bills-Jets color rush game a couple years ago, it was red and green and so many people couldn't even tell what team was which. The whole sight thing is very interesting. Yeah, it scares me.

It scares me, too. I got that LASIK, and it freaked me out. I want that. You were blind for a whole second, right? It's like five, six seconds. You just don't see anything, and then this orange light comes back, and you're like, whoa, we're back in the game. It's terrifying.

I can see again. I can see again. It's worth it, though. Next day, you get superhero vision. Yeah, which is crazy. I have one-a-day contacts. They're the worst thing in the world. I hate touching my eyes.

Oh, I love touching my eyes. It scares me. I feel like I'm going to get something in there. I got a 30-day contact lens. Oh, me too. Up top. I don't like sleeping with them, though. Sleeping with contacts on scares me as well.

Why? I did it for like six months, seven months at a months. Do you think it's stuck on there or something? I don't know. If it gets stuck on there, win. Okay, now we just have that vision. It's permanent. I don't know. I've heard stories.

The back of my eye. Yes, exactly. I had to take mine out for like five months, I think, before my LASIK. It was three months. Three months I had to take mine out because I never took them out. Ever.

Ever. I had one parent for like two years. Gee. Did they have you on the drops no no no i just lived i literally just lived and they tested my eyes they were like your eyes are a bit swollen we're gonna have to have you on glasses for like a month wow and then a month later they're like probably another month and probably one more month and i had these glasses these black glasses that i wore maybe real official. Did your eyes feel better after those three months? No, because I got LASIK immediately, which is when they tape your eyes open and then they laser it. But I could see the very next morning was a whole new world.

So you're only out for one day? They just gave me a bunch of Ambien. So I got the LASIK at like 5 o'clock. It was the last one of the day. Tape my eyes open, thing that, and then just gave me three Ambien. And then I woke up at like 3 30 a.m yeah and i my eyes were just like oh oh my god it's a whole different way it was literally a whole new world a whole new place sorry about that i walked into the indoor facility or indoor practice facility i was like oh this is a really

nice place because with the contacts all i could see was like, oh, this is a really nice place. Because with the contacts, all I could see was the blur around the lights because I wore contacts for so long. So the blur was just around the lights. So the entire roof might as well have just been a bunch of light blur. It was just blur. And then the first day I go in there with the LASIK,

I was like, oh, shit. This is a pretty nice place. You guys got a nice little indoor facility here this is pretty cute it looked just a bunch blurry the last time i was in here this is really nice that's how i am if it's raining at night i can't see shit yeah it's terrifying it is do you ever wonder like way back in the day i'd be dead already oh yeah with the eyes for sure well you'd be foxy back in the day you'd be dead because of a lot of things okay fair fair but the eyes are not helping the eyes would be that's just such a one thing that people never think about think about

like vision back in the day when there was no glasses oh yeah there was this blind ass caveman walking around just getting sniped by other animals because he had no idea eaten by crocs because you have no clue that they're sitting there. None. None. The crocs are like, hey. You're like, I hear something. I just can't see a fucking thing. And then the deaf people back in the day. Oh, no. Think about how people were just yelling at them for a long time.

They had no idea. They couldn't hear a single thing. Quit ignoring me. Just think they're stupid, right? I'm pretty sure they just dubbed them stupid. Had to. And then just let them go. But really, they just couldn't hear a thing.

I always said this. Dub them stupid. Had to. And then just let them go. But really, they just couldn't hear a thing. I always said this. At one point in time, the man who created a comfortable chair was the Steve Jobs of his era. Oh, yeah.

They were just sitting on rocks. And then somebody was like, I'm going to put a padding on here. And then that guy, he had sex with every woman in the village. Oh, chair guy. Chair. That guy made the soft chair. Then someone made armrests. And then you got to think, oh.

That guy changed. No, they collabed. That guy changed the game. Well, then they collabed to. How about bed guy? Oh. Bed guy took it to a whole new level. Yeah. Everybody talks about the guy who made the wheel and all that shit.

What about bed guy? Bed guy. Or girl. Or girl. Or hammer guy. Imagine the guy who invented the hammer. Or girl. That changed building forever.

How about screwdriver guy or girl oh no wow yeah everybody's you got big mongoloids hammer and everything and then it was probably a smaller it was probably like a little bit more of a delicate human i was like well i can't hammer the thing but maybe i can twist it that would have been me outsmarting them i don't know if that was going to be you. Work smarter, not harder, says the Fox Village. Yep. That makes sense. And we're screwing everything in, and it's tighter, too.

Yeah, but you'd have a lot of trouble. Yeah. You'd have a lot of trouble getting in there, though. Oh, yeah. Yep. A lot of trouble. Screwing would be really hard for you, especially without the site. Yeah, but at the end of it all, at the end of it all, we're in a good spot.

Yeah, you are. Absolutely. By the way, after that jumper, I'm surprised something wasn't just... Honestly, I don't think I fully understand the modern world you kids live in. I don't either, Matt. We don't. You don't understand it? We don't fucking know.

We're young, living in it, and don't understand it. It's definitely us. It's definitely us. Definitely. But it's easier just to blame everything else. Oh, you got new shoes on today. I don't know what he's talking about. Yeah, I did.

I figured I really shouldn't come in here with the split shoes on the side. They're not new. They're just my second of three pairs. Now, only two, though. Connor used to dress like the biggest asshole I've ever seen in my life. Used to? He doesn't. I think you look good now, by the way.

Yeah, come on. Denim up top? That's little Paige jeans. Paige jeans are incredible. I'm sorry. I had to say it. No free ads. I had to say,

no free ads, but wow. If you don't like jeans, there's still hope for you, my friend. It's a whole different animal. Yeah. They are sweatpants.

They're yoga pants disguised as dress pants. This is probably my favorite invention in the 21st century, I'd say. So this Paige guy or girl changed your life. Changed the game, yeah. He basically invented the bed for me.

That's what he did. That's what he means to me. Who was the gun guy or girl? That guy's an idiot. He made a gun to end war. Smith and Weston? No, it was the Chinese. The Chinese came up with gunpowder.

Yeah. And fireworks. The Zambellis were under fireworks in Chinese. The Chinese came up with gunpowder. Yeah. And fireworks. Yeah. The Zambellis were on the fireworks in Pittsburgh. The Ottoman Empire, I believe. Yeah, that was the powder keg. I don't know if we're being serious right now. Oh, yeah.

Zito, you're just dropping factual references and then having two people. I'm a big history buff. Oh, are you? Oh, yeah. 1776. Oh. That's a year drop. That's a year drop. That's a year drop.

When did the war actually end? It was 10 years before. It was a year before, though. It was a true year before or after. They signed it before the war actually ended. There you go. History. History.

I have it in the wrong order. I'm like, ah, Saddamus. I just have the book. I just don't have the book. Wait, order. I'm like, Ah, Saddamus. I just have the book. I just don't have the book. Wait, wait, wait, what?

Ah, Saddamus. Oh, man. Is it Astrodamus? No, Nostra. Nostra.

Oh, I knew him by Astrodamus. Sorry, dude, I called Lucy Cindy Lou Who. We ruined all of Christmas, by the way. Yeah.

What? We did. Well, if you can't watch Rudolph, we went ahead and just ruined every other movie, too. So people should feel terrible if they watch any of them. Well, if they're feeling down, they can go to patmcfeshow.com and get a nice Christmas sweater.

Get back into the holiday cheer. There's a sale right now happening, by the way. Christmas sweaters. I think today there is a sale. Okay. I think there is a sale today. I haven't been fully informed, but I think there is a sale today on Christmas sweaters at patmagfyshow.com. Yep. Store.patmagfyshow.com.

Dwight Schrute. Still got blocks left, too. Oh. Whoa. Collector's items. Yeah, if you want to buy a tree, just build a tree block. There we go. That could be the pub Christmas tree.

Whoa. We're talking. Buy one right now. That could be the pub Christmas tree. Whoa. We're talking. Buy one right now. That's a thought. It's for sale. Store.padmagshow.com. Maybe the pub buys one. Yep.

Tim McAfee will ship it to you himself. Ooh. Right? Yeah. On his bike, he'll go 50 miles per hour all the way to your house. Yeah. As long as you're in Berlin. Yeah.

I'll tell you what. you listeners are the absolute greatest. I say it every single day. If you made it this far and you listened all the way through, I consider you a real family. And I'd like to give away some merch today. I'd like to give away some merch. All right. I think we have a sale going on right now on our Christmas sweaters.

I'd like to give away a few. I'll give away five Christmas sweaters. i will personally give away five christmas sweaters if you send us hashtag end gang hashtag end game and go ahead and send us uh pictures of zito's face whenever january 1st comes around and he can't even realize that he can't just eat everything in sight anymore which is what he's been doing for three months. January 1st, Zito's face whenever this all comes crashing down. Excited to see what you do. I'm going to give away five, five Christmas sweaters.

I appreciate you all. Tweet them to me. Tweet them at Ty. Tweet them at Foxy. Tweet them at everybody else who came through. We appreciate you so much. You're the absolute greatest. Ty Schmidt, hit the music. It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas everywhere you go.

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Dolls that will talk and will go for a walk Is the hope of Janice and Jen And Mom and Dad can hardly wait For school to start again It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas Everywhere you go There's a tree in the Grand Hotel One in the Park as well The sturdy kind that doesn't mind the snow.

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