The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 032 - NFL Defensive Rookie Of The Year

Episode Date: December 20, 2018

On today’s show, Pat goes live from the Indianapolis Colts facility for an incredible interview with the NFL’s leading tackler, probable Defensive Rookie of the Year, and one of the biggest Pro Bowl snubs in recent memory, The Maniac, Darius Leonard. They cover his upbringing and how he overcame the odds being stacked against him, and who he’s looked to for advice. They also cover his thoughts on the Colts season, how all the slights thrown at him are just adding chips on his shoulder, and how he should take the NFL drug testing him as a compliment (6:37-21:09). Pat and Digs also give a touching tribute to Coach Sacco, their high school football coach who recently passed away, and the guys get into a conversation about Pat’s high school playing days. Later, sports handicapper, source material for the film Two For The Money, and friend of the show, Brandon Lang, calls in to give a couple of red hot NCAA basketball picks, chats a bit about his time caddying for Jim Irsay (and inadvertently takes a couple of shots at Gorman), and looks ahead to this weeks NFL slate while also giving some thoughts on the NCAA football playoff (1:02:17-1:25:45). The guys wrap up the show by diving a tad deeper into the NFL games, and give a few more thoughts on the weight loss competition. It’s a great one. Come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Shout out SeatGeek. Let's get into this conversation with the defensive rookie of the year, Locke, Darius Leonard. We are live in the Indianapolis Colts practice facility. I spent plenty of hours of my life in here. Now there's a new legend in town, a new legend in the building. This guy leads the NFL in tackles by 22 tackles. That's more than a fucking game's worth of tackles. Just absolute dominating in his rookie year out of South

Carolina State. He got snubbed from the Pro Bowl, which is a bunch of bullshit. Pro Bowl doesn't matter anyways, unless you got bonuses on the line. Ladies and gentlemen, the maniac, Darius Leonard. How you doing? Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. No problem. So a lot of people might not know you because you kind of came new into the scene here this year. I had no clue who you were going into the season. Where are you from? I'm from Lakeview, South Carolina. Okay, that's out in the middle of nowhere. Yes, sir.

Farmtown? Oh, yeah. Country boy. Country boy. And then you ended up at South Carolina State? Yep. How come? I heard.

I did some research. You can throw a 90-mile-an-hour fastball, you can run like a 4-3 or something like that. 4-4. Oh, so they kind of gave you that. Yeah. 4-4, you're 6'2, you're a basketball stud, football stud, and you go to South Carolina State. Why is that? Because it came out to my very last test score to be qualified and it came back two weeks after signing day so a lot of teams didn't want to pull that trigger if I wasn't going to be able to play that first year so South Carolina State was the only team that kind of offered me a partial

scholarship. So you end up HBCU, South Carolina State, you leave being the all-time leading tackler. Every player I know that has come from an HBCU into the NFL has had a chip on their shoulder because they feel like they've been overlooked and they're representing something bigger than themselves. Is that how you feel? Without a doubt. And I heard Robert Mathis has been a hell of a mentor and somebody you look up to in this whole thing. Oh yeah without a doubt I mean Robert Mathis and I we have similar backgrounds both coming from HBCUs, kind of family background, kind of similar. So, yeah, coming in, just talking to him about everything, kind of, it was kind of easy to just, easy going, just talking to him about the playbook.

And it was kind of easy to talk to him more things about life as well. You're a cue dog as well. Oh, yeah. Yes, sir. And I assume that drew Robert Mathis to you. Oh, yeah. And I heard you guys, he sought you out in the combine or something. What was that conversation like at the combine? No, it was more so just asking about who I was and who I was as a person, as a leader.

And then it kind of went more so about off the field then because that's when the real Robert Mathis came out. There wasn't no coach then. It was more so the brotherhood. He let me know that coming from HBCU, it was going to be hard. Coming from HBCU, you're going to be overlooked. Just to keep that chip on your shoulder and just keep grinding. Talk about you off the field. Family, I've read a couple stories about your family.

I'm very sorry for the turmoil that you've had to go through in your life. Two older brothers incarcerated for murder. Have you ever, do you keep a relationship with them at all? Oh, yeah. I still talk to them. They write letters almost every week. So yeah, I mean, no matter what they did, I mean, it's their family. So yeah. How old were you whenever they went to jail? The first one I was two years old and the second one I was probably around 10 or 11.

Okay. So you have two older brothers that are in jail for murder. Do you have any other siblings? Yes. My mom had nine kids and I have one brother incarcerated. My in jail for murder. Do you have any other siblings? Yes, my mom had nine kids. And I have one brother incarcerated. My dad had five kids. So yes, I have a big family. All play sports. I had a brother who actually played in the NFL, went to Clemson.

That's why I mean, I grew up a Clemson fan. He came, won the Super Bowl. So kind of just following in his footsteps a little bit. Lot of distraction possibility there. Oh yeah. When you're growing up in that type of situation. You always wanted to be a professional athlete and do what was possible.

Kind of kept your head on, focused on that whole thing? Yeah, I mean, I saw how much happiness my brother brought back to the family, back to the community. And I saw the pain that my mom went through with my two brothers, well, my three brothers. So I knew that I'm afraid of failing and I don't want to fail. So I kind of have a chip on my shoulder.

Don't want nobody to look down upon me, so I always want to be at the top of everything I do. So it was kind of easy to kind of keep the badness away from me and just try to start a streak. I always hear these assholes are like, you can't be afraid to fail. I was scared as shit to fail. Yeah, without a doubt, you're going to have to. And that drove me to work harder. Yeah. Yeah. Just like here, I mean, we do something here that I've never

done before. We watch film in front of the whole defense, and we point out every mistake in front of the whole defense. So, I mean, I don't want my name called in the bad play. I don't want my teammates to look at me sideways and say, okay, I can't trust him to do his job. So, being afraid to fail is actually a good thing because it's going to push you to learn your playbook push you to work hard yeah so I mean being afraid to fail is not a bad thing I agree hey I'm happy we're on the same side yeah why do they call you the maniac how long you've been called the maniac oh since 2016 after the Clemson game my junior year I might Ied up 18 tackles in a blocked field goal and after that they... It's fucked up by the way, the kicker did not deserve that.

Yeah it's crazy that y'all do get blamed for that. I know you make an incredible play. Yeah I agree. It's crazy but then I got back on campus it was like man you play like a straight maniac and when he said it it kind of stuck with me and ever since then every time i played it was like a hashtag maniac play like a maniac and kind of went from there i um 18 tackles in a block field goal is like a standard game for you now in the nfl you could have never guessed that when you got to the nfl you got this much success not at all i mean you look like a grown man out there playing with a bunch of kids you literally do and you're a rookie you have so much to learn you still have no clue i bet you ro so much to learn. You still have no clue. I bet you Robert tells you this too. You still have no fucking idea yet.

He still calls me a rookie ass rook. Yeah, exactly. Every day. Exactly. There's no way you could have expected this. No, not at all. Coming in, I mean, coming from HBCU, in the back of my mind, I knew what I could be, but then again, I was like, okay, coming from a small school, it was going to be

longer for me to kind of work my way in so I was coming in with the mindset was just do all the right things and then everything else would fall in place but I would have never thought that it would have ended up the way it's going now how have you been enjoying the NFL lifestyle here I'm loving it um loving it here man it's especially in Indiana Indianapolis so I mean it's kind of easy here I mean I stay close by I have my wife up here with me. High school sweetheart, by the way. High school sweetheart, yeah. Hey, that doesn't happen a lot.

Oh, yeah. Kid on the way? Yes, sir. That little girl. Name for her? Mia Gabriella. Beautiful name. Oh, yeah.

When's it due? April 3rd. Out of season, baby. Good idea. Yes, sir. That's a veteran move by you. That's a veteran move by you. Oh, yeah.

So you've enjoyed the NFL lifestyle. Yes, sir. The coaches here, obviously you're brand new. They are also brand new. So you're kind of learning Indianapolis Colts, the whole brand of the organization together. What have you learned about the Colts organization? That it's a family business.

Every time you come in, you see the owners coming in and out. So, I mean, everything is about family here, and everything stays in- in the house I mean if you have a problem it's always in the house and it's you you don't have to worry about you can go talk to coach no problem um like every that's one thing I like about it you don't have to take your tail or anything if you've got a problem with anybody just go talk to them just like regular family you you all sucked at the beginning of the season the whole world was crumbling on the Colts everybody was mocking Frank Reich Chris Ballard saying Chris Ballard can't hack it he doesn't know how to put a team together and all Chris Ballard continued to say was wait for we

build our culture right you're a young team right now that defense very young if you take Vinatieri's old ass out of there I think your average age is like 24 or 25. Very, very young team. You guys hit a moment. What was the moment in the season when you guys were like, all right, we're starting to get it? We had a team meeting after, I think, that fourth loss in a row. We called it a team meeting, no coaches or anything. Was it Houston? I think so.

And then after that, we just— Who talked? All the leaders. Andrew, Najee Good, Jabal Shear, Al Woods, Ryan Kelly. I mean, it was all leaders. Everybody, yeah. Yeah, so, and then after that, we knew what we had in here. And it wasn't like everybody was just better than us. If you see on film, we were just doing dumb mistakes, dumb young mistakes. And after that, we just kind of toned in and just trusting each other even more and kind of just went from there.

You guys have become a team that nobody wants to see right now. Nobody. Nobody wants to see the Colts. If the Colts somehow slip into the playoffs this year, right, nobody wants to see it. It happened with the Giants back when the Giants won the Super Bowl. They were a dogshit team early in the year. Then they clicked, got hot, and kept kept running the playoffs is all about who's hot

colts are very very hot right now oh yeah you guys have to be excited about the future as a young man you're going to be here probably 10 years if i had to guess i'd assume that's the way the overseas will take care of a player like you maybe 15 years you'll probably get the ride on his private plane i've never been on it we'll figure that out. But I assume the work, everybody coming in, it feels very good, because it's like we're building something special in here. Yeah, coming in, man, like that one of five, man, it was coming in, everybody, we had the same mentality,

but now it's different. Like, it's really fun now, you know, just winning, trusting each other, just going out, having a complete ball. I mean, we didn't change anything up. We just kept continuing to just trust the process and get 1% better each day and just came out and compete. You were in pass coverage this last week, made a couple big-time plays.

How does that go over in the meeting rooms whenever you look like that big of an athlete, whenever you're also leading the NFL in tackles? I don't mean to, I mean, that pass coverage, I mean, on one of them, it was actually bad. It was just, I came back, a quarterback threw a late, so I used my athleticism to get, knock the ball out. But we, I mean, we talk about the good and the bad.

I mean, that, like I said, one of them was a bad and one of them was good. So talking about it, we just learn from everything and try to go from there. Where do you think you'll grow? Everywhere. I feel like I have so much room to improve in a lot of phases, especially when I'm coming into contact, making contact with a running back,

or planning coverage. So just more knowledge of the game, I think I'd be better. So next year, you're going to be a guy that people are going to prepare for. That's the plan. This year, at the beginning of the season, Darius Leonard, you were balling early in the year, by the way. You don't lead the NFL in tackles by 22 tackles if you were sucking early. Yeah.

Team might not have been gelling early. You guys might not have had it together, but you were still making plays everywhere. Next year, teams are going to prepare for Darius Leonard. That's a huge compliment. Oh, yeah. It is. I mean, just to have a team just scheme up against you

i mean this is not this is not ducking some backyard football this is the national football league we'll be preparing for darius leonard yeah i mean it's just crazy that like i'm i'm to that level now so i just gotta just keep just keep trying to improve and just be better each year you sent a tweet out to the the NFL about the random drug test. Yeah. I had to battle that in my career as well. Yeah, it's like every two weeks I'm getting drug tested. You need to just start looking at it as a compliment from Roger Goodell.

Honestly, like if Vinatieri has a big game, his old ass is getting tested the next day. If I had a good game back in the day, I would get to the point where I was like, oh, they weren't that impressed with me. They didn't drug test me the next day. Especially with what's happening with Eric Reid down there. It's not random anymore. I thought it was wild that you sent out a tweet. Oh, yeah.

I thought it was funny. Yeah, it was crazy. And then you got snubbed from the Pro Bowl. Yeah, without a doubt. That has to be a frustrating thing, especially because you're so young. I mean, I look at it both ways. I mean, yes, I feel like I got snubbed, but it is what it is. I mean, just add another chip on my shoulder.

Just like, I mean, growing up my whole life getting cheated, I guess. I mean, not going to Clemson. Yep. Not doing all the things that I felt like I should have been. So it is what it is. I just kind of build from it, just go from there. Pulling for you man. That's our first offseason will be your first time off probably in your whole life. Oh, yeah I can't wait

Oh, yeah I don't want you to think of your offseason because you should be focused on the now Oh, yeah My rookie year I got yelled at by Peyton Manning asking him when I should start preparing for my vacations And he told me don't even think about it during the season with that being said Do you have any dream destinations that you'll go to uh not at all i mean my wife does but i'm kind of scared to go out of the country so just go to the beach yeah see i'm from murder uh murder beach is like down the road from us so it's kind of senior frogs down there yeah oh yeah jesus i've lost some

years off of my life at that place uh this weekend, New York Giants. How's the team feel? Team feels good. We know what we have to do. I mean, we got to make Eli beat us with his arms, so we got to go away and stop the run. Saquon Barkley. Yeah, he's a great guy. This weekend is potentially the probable Offensive Rookie of the Year and Defensive Rookie of the Year going against each other. Yeah, he's a great back. I mean, just watch a film on him, his contact balance, the way he runs. I mean, he's a great guy, great elite running back. If you don't win defensive rookie of the year,

and let's say the Howl at the Moon guy wins. By the way, that was savage. I was a big fan of that move. I was a big fan of that move. Is that just another chip on the shoulder? Let's keep it moving. Without a doubt. I mean, no, on the shoulder? Let's keep it moving. Without a doubt. I mean, no, there's no such thing as keep it moving.

It's going to add that chip, especially to know how much work you put in. And, like, when he came, they came in last week. I mean, it was on my mind a whole lot playing against him. We're not playing against him. Well, he's on the Dallas Cowboys as well. So Dallas Cowboys get a lot more publicity on a regular basis. Yeah, so I knew coming in that every time I play against someone who they say better than me, I want to step up, and I felt like I did, and I proved a point there.

And if he wins it, yes, I'm going to definitely have a bigger chip. The NFL has a maniac problem for like the next 10 years, and the Colts are lucky to have him. Ladies and gentlemen, the leading tackler in the NFL, biggest Pro Bowl snub, defensive rookie of the year, and I'd assume a future perennial All-Pro. You might get All-Pro this year and not make the Pro Bowl, by the way, which is very interesting.

All-Pro is the media people. Pro Bowl is a bunch of publicity bullshit. I think you'll probably be an All-Pro if I had to guess. You should be. But if not, you will be for like the next 10 years. Ladies and gentlemen, from South Carolina State in the town of...

Orangeburg, South Carolina. What was your hometown? Lakeview, South Carolina. Lakeview? Out in the middle of nowhere. Created a animal. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Leonard. Thank you so much, dude. Appreciate you, man. It was really cool chatting with Darius Leonard there. Went into the Colts facility, by the way. Fox you so much, dude. Thank you. Appreciate you, man. It was really cool chatting with Darius Leonard there. Went into the

Colts facility, by the way. Foxy and I went in there. It's my first time back in there in a while. Wow. How'd it feel? There were some offices I walked by where there was some real hate that I still had. I know, but you should have seen it. Heads were just popping up everywhere when they saw Pat. It was really cool.

Got to see some of the janitors, custodian people. Did you see them again? Did the punters see you? I didn't see Rigoberto. I saw old-ass Vinny, though. I saw old-ass Vinny. He was talking to Uncle Jesse, the banker. So there was some money situation happening there.

Saw the other media as well. Saw the other media. Walked in through the media entrance. Took a shot at them. It was nice. Literally, Evan and I, they've remodeled the colts facility since i've been there by the way very nice the place looks very beautiful state of the art they're taking care of that place it looks very very nice but i went in through the media entrance

where all the press conferences happen by that point all the media is already in there it's a small room and the door it's like you're letting in light into the room so anytime you walk in there everybody in the room is looking there's no it's coming in now yeah and i did not expect that by the way i got pretty vitamined up right before we walked in there i did not expect that so i opened the door and it's just every media member basically in indianapolis is just staring at me and me and foxy i'm like oh hey how's it going i go dap out i dap up Wells from ESPN. As I'm dapping him up, I'm like, fuck, I bet everybody in here is expecting me to shake their... So I dap up Wells, and I'm like, I'll go to see you, man.

He works for ESPN. His name is Mike Wells. And literally, as I'm doing it, I'm regretting it immediately. And I know he felt that in my dap. It was like a fucking elite... I'm like, oh, no. Now everybody in here thinks I'm going around the whole room. There's like 30, 40 people in there. Did it like a fucking elite i'm like oh no now everybody in here thinks i'm going around the whole room there's like 30 40 people in there it's gonna become a handshake

line no no so i pivoted quickly and i'm normally not good at this normally if i feel bad about something i will react immediately i knew i had to get out of the room as quickly as possible so i did like a about face and they're like uh they said something along these lines i had a quick like uh oh yeah well i don't have enough fucking talent to be in here or whatever everybody's last or whatever and then somebody followed up with like well what are you doing here i was that's like i couldn't help i just couldn't help it you know i just couldn't fucking help it i couldn't just be oh just having fun oh just making content instead i I had to say something that was real.

I looked at the entire room of the media basically and said, well, since you guys couldn't get Darius Leonard in the fucking pro bowl, they called me in here. And then I walked, I walked out of the room and I left it in my head. I'm like, ah,

why, why did I have to be a fucking asshole? It was a good line. It was good. It got a good pop out of the crowd. After you left, everyone's staring at Wells too. Like what the fuck's up with your boy? Why do you get this? Yeah. Why did I have to be a fucking asshole? It was a good line. It was good. It got a good pop out of the crowd. After you left, everyone's staring at Wells, too. Like, what the fuck's up with your boy?

Why do you get this? Yeah, what the fuck's up with your boy, huh? And there was a lot of people in there, because the guy told us, he's like, normally, not this many people, but the Colts are winning. And they're playing Giants, New York City. So it's got New York media in it as well. Guaranteed, every punt today from Rigoberto's a shank. He's pissed off. He's asking questions.

Why was he back in the building? Are you sure? It was for Darius Leonard? I mean, he's having a bad practice. So Rigoberto, whenever he first signed with the Colts, Tom McMahon was the coach, special teams coach as well, still. And they signed Jeff Loc um lock from the minnesota vikings they signed jeff lock to be my replacement he was a lefty he got paid a pretty good little amount

of cash i think he made like uh i think it was like a two million dollar offer a 1.5 million dollar offer it was more than just vet men they brought him and he was supposed to replace me they bring in rigoberto sanchez though as a camp a camp leg. Tom McMahon, though, if you were brought into camp, Tom McMahon found you. Normally, you ended up in the NFL somewhere. So basically, every single person that came into ours ended up in the NFL somewhere. So as it starts, I'm getting texts from Vinatieri like, hey, Rigoberto, not the best holder right now, but I think this kid might have it. So then I watch a jeff lock press conference which i never had one by the way played for the courts for eight years got zero fucking press conference

this jeff lock guy's there for a week and a half he has a press conference and i'm watching his press conference and he i don't want to say he took a shot at me but he kind of he kind of took a shot at me he was like well i was in the nfc i never really got to see pat anything he did i know he's active on the internet, but that's not me. I'm just here to kick good balls. I'm like, kick good balls? You couldn't hold my fucking jockstrap, Jeff Locke. You should have been watching my film if you want to learn how to be a better fucking punter.

You want to get a $1.5 million deal, a one-year deal, maybe something else. I was pissed, right, when I watched it. I'm like, this motherfucker. But I'm the one that chose to retire, so that's the NFL. That's going to happen. I'm going to be replaced, right? But I had a little bit of a, a bad taste in my mouth for this Jeff.

Sure. Yeah. So then a couple of months go by and I guess Rigoberto's holding wasn't as great. It was like, he was nervous. He like, wasn't,

he didn't have the confidence in the holding thing. And it was, he was, he knew he wasn't being brought in for a job, but all signs were pointing to him potentially winning the job. So Vinat i get another text like is there any way you could fucking like just come talk to this guy about how you're supposed to act as a holder because when you're older right you're in charge of the offensive line you're in charge of everything it's like you're you're the guy so you have to have like some real your voice you have to have some base in your voice special

teams quarterback yeah in the moment yeah but you have to be able to yeah the moment you have to be in charge of the moment it's a tiny little thing but there's a lot of things that can go wrong so just a little bit of confidence basically rigoberto didn't have any so they brought me in like a week before his rookie training camp and i went out there and i hung out with him and tom mcmahon for and vinny was there for like 45 50 minutes and i was listening to the sound come off his foot or whatever. He wasn't very consistent at the moment. He was kind of hit or miss. But I talked to him, and I was like, by the way, get this fucking job.

I hate that other fucking job. And he was like, I'll do everything I can, man. And I fist bumped him, and I walked away, and I've had nothing but respect for that kid. That's awesome. He was not supposed to get the job. He was not supposed to get the job. He literally outworked Jeff Locke to get the job,

but I like Rigoberto a lot. He should have made the Pro Bowl this year probably. If he had a little bit bigger name, he would have made the Pro Bowl. Who did make it from punter-wise? Michael Dixon made it for the NFC. AFC was Brett Kern from the Tennessee Titans. I've called him now for the last two years the most underrated punter in the NFL.

He was unbelievable, but nobody knew he existed, basically. Because the Tennessee Titans, although they're in Nashville, which is a cool, banging city, ain't nobody know anything fucking about Nashville or the Tennessee Titans. They're just like the Colts, kind of a small market team. I'm proud and happy of Brett Kern. Also, Michael Dixon. It's hard to make it there as a rookie.

Very difficult to make it as a rookie. We were just talking about Rigoberto, but he had, obviously, a spectacular year, primetime games, did a lot of magical things, and probably the entire country of Australia voting for him. Doesn't hurt. What doesn't hurt, too, is the Titans are very for the brand on the Twitter. Very for the brand.

So then pushing Brett Kern and for the brand might have helped a little bit as well. Michael Dixon, also very much for the brand, man. And Janikowski as well. So I think, you know, maybe something to think about. Maybe something to think about for that building I was in today. No, no, I know. Maybe that building I was in today. Yeah.

I think we only got like 15, 20 of the teams to tweet out for the brand on a pretty regular basis. This one wasn't one of them? They might think about it. The Colts are. I don't think the Colts are. That's weird. Saints.

Saints are very for the brand. Oh, yeah. Saints are. Ravens are very for the brand. Very much. Very much. Titans are very much for the brand. Bears.

Bears are very much for the brand. Gostkowski. He's for the brand. He is? Yeah, Gostkowski. What about him? I've gotten text messages from Stephen Gostkowski about laughing about something that I've done.

Oh, that's good. I like Gostkowski a lot. I met him out at the Pro Bowl. Good guy. Good guy. Speaking of Pro Bowl, do the right thing. I'm looking right at you. Write a letter to the league

and step down from your appointed quarterback position in the Pro Bowl. If you're Tom Brady and Andrew Luck is sitting on the sidelines, you should be embarrassed. Tom Brady tries to get out of the Pro Bowl. He's only Tom Brady and Andrew Luck is sitting on the sidelines, you should be embarrassed. Tom Brady tries to get out of every Pro Bowl. He's only played in two. You should be embarrassed.

By tries to get out, by the way. He's probably in the Super Bowl. Either way, they're going to need a Brady replacement anyways because we're going to be playing in the Super Bowl this year. Still a slap in the face. You want the first vote in. Mike Florio had a hilarious tweet last night. He said, oh, I forgot that tonight was the night

where players were picked for a game in which they're going to spend the next few weeks trying to get out of. It was something along those lines. So true. Your first Pro Bowl, very excited to go. I was eager. Couldn't wait. We just lost by 50. Potential deflate gate.

Can't wait to get out there. Go to Arizona out in the middle of nowhere. I was like, this is nothing like what I thought it was that arizona pro bowl first night we're there have a whole like seminar symposium basically for congratulations here's how this works blah blah blah then the local sheriff gets up there local sheriff say with the pro bowl here and the super bowl here know that there will be a lot of sting operations whenever it comes to certain aspects of our society or whatever. So keep that in mind whenever you are doing whatever,

whether it's drugs, prostitution, whatever it is, know that we have a lot of things set up. So for your protection. They were spin zoning it that it was for our protection. They were saying it strictly to inform everybody in the room like hey hey hey tell me they gave you a heads up careful what you do but they were spin zoning it as yeah uh for your protection obviously what i think six days later warren sap said i told that one bitch get out of here warren sap got busted like i think six days later. He didn't listen.

It was like, yo, Warren, I was in I think you were in the same meeting. Whatever they said. But the second Pro Bowl when you make it to your second you're trying to get the fuck out of that one. Unless you're Drew Brees. Drew Brees is captain Pro Bowl, man.

Everything he does is right. I said that the other day. It seems as if everything Drew B he does is right every time i said that the other day it seems as if everything drew breeze does is right he sent a a memorable uh no commemorative yeah commemorative yeah feel real good about just pulling that one out of the back you know what i mean that one was deep back there he sent that commemorative ball to everybody that's ever caught a touch that was cool cool cool i think think that's everything he seems to do is right. And then somebody was like, not those diamond operation. Was Drew Brees a part of some diamond operation? Bruh.

I never heard that. I had no idea. Bruh was working with Blood Diamond? Yeah. I'm telling you, I got like 15, 20 tweets of people mentioning diamonds with Drew Brees. It was a jewelry store. Okay. That it may have been some Fugazi stuff that was sold to Drew Brees is what it is.

And he spent $9 million. $9 million. Oh, so he got taken. Oh, so he got beat. Yeah, he got beaten. Okay, so he's not the one selling the $9 million worth of bad diamonds, though. He invested $9 million. He wouldn't mix up in that blood diamond game.

Oh, he invested in it. Oh, so he was making money off of the fake diamonds. Mm-hmm. Because he was an investor in it. Oh, bro. So that's why I love the internet, by the way. They know everything. That's why I love the internet.

They get to the bottom of it every time. Because that's just 15 random people probably scattered around the country just being like, no, no, no, no, Pat. And once you see it like 10 times, you're like, well, what the fuck is this? Because there's like 100 like, hundred like Drew Brees is the best Drew Brees is the best but as you scroll through there's like not with the diamonds and I'm like I don't even know what that could possibly mean

then you scroll through and there's another like diamonds though what the fuck is up with these diamonds turns out he was a part of a fugazi that happens to the best of us unless you've got a real eye for a diamond you can't tell it's hard to tell. Plus, I doubt he was there.

He's actually right. I don't think he was wandering around the store either, like taking part of operations. He probably was like, here's some money. Well, here you have a friend who's about to open a business, and they go, I can guarantee you a 15% return yearly on your money. This is all I need. I'm going to wherever diamonds are. I'm getting them myself.

These diamonds are 98.2% profit. They're only 20 cents in there every $10,000. Drew Brees was conned just as bad as the people that were buying. They sold them $15 million worth of investment grade diamonds. They were worth $6 million. Still good diamonds.

$6 million worth of diamonds. She good diamond. Still a good diamond. Six million dollars worth of diamonds. She's not going to know the difference. That is a true story. He's just trying to beef up his portfolio. I mean, he owns a bundle of Jimmy John's franchises down there, too. You know, he's smart. Hey, not bad marketing, by the way, by that guy. I remember when he first got into it, he was trying to break a world record for most Jimmy

John's sandwiches sold in one day. And all the New Orleans was like, we got you, Drew! He sold like 7 million sandwiches in one day. I was like, this is genius! This is genius marketing by Drew Brees. Absolutely genius. He's just trying to diversify his portfolio.

Diversify your bonds. Nothing wrong with that. You Italian stud. You said out of bread. Yeah. I was so mind-blown. There's a place here in Indianapolis we've ordered from twice. They said they can't fulfill our order because they don't have bread sandwich places.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Middle of the day, too. This is like noon. There's only two parts to the sandwich. It's the meat and the bread. You're like missing half of the inventory. Yeah, but now everyone's trying to get this bread. Correct.

Yeah, but it's noon. Nick. It's like your fifth order of the inventory. Yeah, but now everyone's trying to get this bread. Correct. Yeah, but it's noon. Nick. It's like your fifth order of the day. It was noon. This has not happened just once. It's just like the Diamonds tweets. We've called this place numerous times at very standard order of sandwich times, and they couldn't fulfill six, seven sandwiches because they didn't have enough bread.

And it's not like they only have one kind of bread. They have like 15 different kinds that they promote on there. You know what it is? There's nobody in the morning waking up making that goddamn bread. That's what it is. I think it might be like a Rudy's situation. When you work there, they're just like,

no, not doing the order. There's no reason to throw me. There's no reason. There's something to think about. There's no reason. Diggs and to think about. There's no reason. Diggs and I will be back in Pittsburgh last night. After this show was recorded yesterday, we hopped on a plane back to Pittsburgh

to go pay our respects to our high school football coach, Coach Sacco. Rest in peace to him, man. Going to be a lot of Italians in this place. Yeah, he was an incredible dude. He cared about the players as much as he cared about the game. He taught me everything I knew about it and so much more about life like just how to conduct yourself as a human and then like i said earlier he was a very smart coach because he hired me

after i was done playing college to come help coach so he respected my football iq which you have to respect the man that does that coach sacco for me i was a soccer player everybody knew me as a soccer player i didn me as a soccer player i didn't start playing football until my junior year of high school so i wouldn't go to practice so i just showed up on fridays if it was an away game my mom actually drove me to a couple games because i was coming from a soccer game so all the football coaches didn't even talk to me basically it was just like yeah that's that's our kicker that's mcafee's a soccer guy we'll just kind of let him be however he'll be and coach sacco was the defense coordinator he was just like, yeah, that's our kicker. That's McAfee. He's a soccer guy. We'll just kind of let him be however he'll be.

And Coach Sacco was the defensive coordinator. He was my actual first football coach. He was the only one who came over to me on the bus. If I was on the bus, he would come sit next to me. If I was on the sideline before the game, he would come talk to me, coach me up. If I did something during the game, he would coach me up about the unwritten rules of football, about how to earn respect in the locker room,

and he really shaped my – he shaped a lot more of my life than I think he could ever imagine. And he passed away so sudden and so young, it was just a shame. So we're going to go pay our respects for sure. I might be crying last night. I don't know. I've been seeing a lot of dead bodies lately, and I don't appreciate it. I don't like it. This is the worst part of this whole life thing but also on the flip side very much a perspective putter yeah i mean the the details haven't come out fully but they're

saying he had a heart attack and just died on sunday just passed away on saturday he had no idea that was coming no idea that's how short it all is. You know what I mean? Like I said, my parents were at a party with him last week, so he was fine. And he had no idea. He was just enjoying his life, having no clue. And that's something to think about if you're out there

and you're just like a, like if you're just a miserable, you have no clue what's coming tomorrow. Change it. Change whatever you're doing. If you don't like it, change it. And I'm not going to get too hoity-toity here and tell you guys to go change your life, but if you're not happy, you could be dying tomorrow.

Legitimately could die tomorrow. Think about that. Could be worse. Whenever you make your decisions on what you want to do each day, remember that this could be your last day. And it's been happening. It's been in close to home, but it's a real thing. And with that being said, we're going back to Pittsburgh. I'm definitely going by Rudy's.

And every time I go there, I eat like five, six sandwiches. And I don't know if we're going to have enough time to sneak them in there. But the move I made of sending people to other Rudy's down the street, still one of the most legendary food service moves of all time. Genius. Gotta respect it. Gotta respect it. And I do appreciate

the fact that that is probably what this sandwich place is doing now that I think of it. Every time I try to get a ticket to that show, it's sold out. It builds a buzz. It's 100%. They never have bread over there. That bread must be amazing. Sandwich place is always out of bread.

How can we help you? We're out of bread. You called 25, 30 minutes ago, though? Could have got that bread. Could have got that bread. Could have got a hell of a sandwich but now you got to go down the street to the other one maybe tomorrow call back earlier this weekend huge football huge football weekend digs got a slate of games that we should all be looking forward to i cannot

wait to watch the nfl figure itself out here which is what's going to happen got to talk to chris ballard after the interview with darius leonard back in his war room and i just talked to him about how this the the NFL is the greatest league. It's so good. You have no clue what's going to happen. There's shitty teams out there but those shitty teams can still win at the end of the season and fuck somebody over completely. The NFL is a beautifully run league. Colts

are being run very well right now. It's nice to be in that building and see everybody. But sitting in Chris Ballard's war room they redid this whole war room and it looks like it's straight out of the fucking uh the kevin costner draft it it looks like a straight out i walked in there he had the lights were all off two projectors tv two projectors had some college film on one had an nfl film on the other just himself in there music playing through the speakers through the whole

room and he's just sitting in the middle of this thing with like a exo uh exo uh remote with a laser pointer and a notebook and the music was upbeat by the way it was like an upbeat music he was in there they say he just lives in there like that's just if your whole job is basically based off of you going drafting players so watching hundreds of players in college and then picking up free agents. That's your entire job. That's pretty much all you have to do is watch film. So I think what happens is normally that guy has scouts, right? Those scouts hit the ground. They report back, here's our top five guys or whatever.

Yeah, he said he doesn't enjoy the reading of reports. He said he has to see it. He said, I'm not much of a learner or whatever. I just need to see it and i'll tell you what chris ballard was being attacked earlier in this nfl season but now people are very much coming around that chris ballard is running and building this team in the right way it was kind of cool to get into his little it was like i was in his little brain you put a few things in his ear do you talk him out of left bell i brought up left bell oh as soon as i sat

down i brought up left bell he said every time you talk you bring up left bell i brought up left bell oh as soon as i sat down i brought up left bell he said every time you talk you bring up left bell i was like i'm just letting you know what the internet is saying sure and i've been saying this for a long time i don't know if you should waste money not that i should ever tell you what to do you're sitting in this room i told him hey you got two fucking tv i'll tell him but i said uh i said that seems like that's an interesting situation i don't know that's gonna be a lot of money. He was like, I'll be interested to see how it all plays out.

Spoiler alert. He ain't coming to the three, one, seven. No chance. Ballard's too smart. I didn't want to give away anything. I didn't want to give away anything,

but it seems like there is not a real want to go make that happen. Hey, when's change, but I'm telling you, spoiler alert, no three, one, seven.

I didn't press him though because i don't want him to ever feel uncomfortable talking to me right so i didn't want to like press him on it and be like a big j journalist but it's good for him for you can represent to him what people are saying on the internet hey i want to let you know chris yeah this is something that's happening every day oh so it's what levy on bell saying too he's the one commenting he's specifically been saying it since before training camp but i didn't i don't want him to ever feel like, because I think he's a good guy. Yeah, he is.

And I enjoy the thought that I am getting to watch how he operates as opposed to be, it's been fun to kind of watch him work, his brain work. How about this? You have to pick someone in this room to GM your team, which you own. Of all these faces and heads in here, who are you picking? I'm picking Diggs strictly because he knows the most about it, but he'll quit soon, so we'll have to hire. Nice.

Honestly, that would be a fucking dream job, to be a GM in the NFL, building a roster. You'd be in your underwear in that film room. Hey, that room I walked into looked like a dream. It's like the all 22 times 4,000. You were just talking about that, and we were talking about Coach Sacco. Literally on Saturdays when we would coach, the game would be Friday night. We'd bring the players in Saturday.

We'd watch the night before film. And then me and him would sit there for like four to six hours watching the team's games for the next week. And he taught me so much about it. But watching film for six hours, it went by like that. I had no problem doing that. I love watching film. It's a good time.

Film is a really good time. For me, I always had, it seems a lot comes around to this, but anytime I had vitamins in me, I think I should have been going to high school and college more vitamin-dense. Because I think it makes me more interested in what's going on. I think it makes me more interested. That's why I did it. Yeah, I'm sure.

You did a lot of things. College is much different for me. Weed really makes you want to peel more layers off. Like, I want to dive in. Dig deeper. Let me see some more of that. Yeah, I agree completely. I think it would have changed my whole entire education experience

if I would have been doing that. Obviously illegal, but it would have been better. If I'm not on weed and I'm in there, I'm like, ah. ah watching that's an onion i don't know i don't fuck with that onion i've said before though i've said before though that i watched shane leckler's film yeah so thomas morstead in the summer before going into my rookie year i i literally had to ask him like i need like a five ten minute just like a punting for dummies book right now like give me a couple things just to keep in mind if i do this and this the ball to keep in mind. If I do this and this, the ball will go far, right? Like if I do this and this, the ball go for you. He's like, all right, uh, keep your hip flexor out so that

your leg swing is straight. And if you drop the ball on the center, right center of your foot with the ball straight, it should turn over every time. I'm like, okay, let me lock that in. Boom, boom, boom. So then we do a couple and it's like it's working i'm like perfect then whenever i got into the league and i had access to film i would just watch shane leckler's film and if you're very vitamin up watching things in slow mo you really start to realize like the little thing i'm like oh he's holding on to that ball until oh his left foot's on the ground oh and then I'm like, can you put my film up there? Oh, God damn. Wrong way.

But film is a lot of fun. I enjoy it a lot. Fourth phase of the game. A lot of people forget. It's a four-phase game. It's an awesome thing to do. It is. It's really cool.

Hey, in all your years organized, football, have you ever played a snap outside of special teams? Think about that. No. It's always been special. Yeah, I have. Yeah, I have. I played on. When we were in seventh grade. Or I was in seventh special teams? Think about that. No. It's always been special. No, yeah, I have. Yeah, I have. I played on.

When we were in seventh grade. Or I was in seventh grade. You were eighth grade. Yeah. I played like three, four weeks. You played wide out. I was quarterback. We threw a couple touchdowns.

Nice. Let's go. Yeah. We literally have two touchdowns. I think I have a pick six and I might have a punt. He also scored a touchdown in high school. It was a bad snap or something on a field goal. The ball rolled back to the 40 and he just

ran it in from the 40. Hold on, the guy. Hey, that's one of my most, that's a big moment for me. Because I was thinking about Coach Sacco. Because Coach Sacco, after that game, it was my first year, it was my first couple games. Snap goes over to Holder's head all the way back to the 40.

And I just, natural instinct, just run back to get it and as i'm going to get in soccer right before you get the ball you're supposed to give like a peek over your shoulder it's just like a natural thing to do so i right before i pick up the ball i see this guy like right on my ass and it's from fox chapel by the way this is the school that my mom hates yes naturally so i bend down to pick up the ball. This kid gets on my waist to tackle me, and I do a hip toss, and he goes flying high. And I'm like, okay, here we go.

I got the ball now. We're in a real game. All right, so I square up now, and I'm looking at their entire defense now, except for that one guy that's behind me. And a couple of guys on my team were basically giving me the let's go, and I'm like, here we go. This is just like backyard football. Ain't no shit.

And then at the goal line, I end up, I think, running over a guy or two and getting in. And on the bus ride home, Sacco sat next to me. And he goes, got to get you more of those. I got you more of those. I was like, I agree. And then that's whenever he got into, he said that as a way to start his conversation with me, I think, you know? And then he explained to me how scared

all the football coaches were that they were going to ruin my soccer career. So like Sacco was like, we are so scared to do anything with you. Because I mean, I played overseas in soccer. I was, I mean, I was, I was a pretty solid soccer player. Like they didn't want football to injure you?

Correct. Yes. The football team, the coaches, everybody, they were like, we just don't want to fucking... Because I was a pretty notable soccer player from our high school. So me going to play on the football team was a big deal, obviously. I mean, a lot of people were doing both soccer and football, but I don't think there was anybody that was like...

Plus with the hip toss, too. Well, yeah, that's the thing. Sacco was the first person to tell me, like, hey, we're very scared to have you here. Like, me and Sacco. Sacco was like, we don't want a bad name at all if we hurt you. And that was really... It became like a real relationship.

And I thought about that play this morning while I was showering because I wonder if that film still exists out there. I guarantee it. I had to look like a fucking relationship. And I thought about that play this morning while I was showering because I wonder if that film still exists out there. I guarantee it. I had to look like a fucking athlete. I had to. Not to ruin the story, but- I don't even have it at my house.

How did you- Oh, we got to find it. Like junior year, how did you get over to football? Well, I was going to do it like my- I won the punt, pass, and kick. Oh. I won the punt, pass, and kick either my freshman or sophomore year. I forget what it was. And I was going to go do it then.

But soccer, it was really going for soccer. It's like in my head, though, you're so good at soccer, I would be like, oh, I'm going to go play football. He would just come on Fridays to kick. That's it. That's it. Wait, wait, wait. You didn't run gassers?

No, no, no. I would just show up. I would walk in with the – That's a good gig. And sometimes they had games on Friday night, so he would get there right at game time. I would walk in with the fans sometimes. Were players pissed off at him? No. They loved him, right?

No, no, no. The best guys. No, he could kick like a fucking 50-yard field goal. Any high school can get a real kicker. And our high school team was not good. Yeah. 500, but okay. First time I kicked a football, though, I kicked a 60-yard field goal. It was like the first time I kicked it.

And it just, it became something where there was always the thought of doing it, but soccer was the ticket. If I was going to go to college, by the way, my parents weren't going to pay for it. There was not going to be no student loan. It was going to be a scholarship. No, but Gorms, it was the best because if you were on kickoff team, you didn't have to run because if it went in the end zone,

it would. Nice. Except for there was like two or three times where Pat, I don't know what happened, but Pat didn't get it to the end zone. And the team was not running down the field. So it was like an automatic 70-yard return. Because people were like trying like six yards down the field. And they're like, oh, shit, that's not in the end zone.

By the way, where I learned how to tackle is on those situations right there. No one was running? It happened in college, too. The same thing would happen in college. How did you learn to tackle? You were never at practice. I mean, seriously, how did you bring down your fast tackle? I grew up in the city of Pittsburgh.

A lot of backyard football. You played a lot of tackle football. We played backyard football. I mean, we played a lot of football growing up. I think that is a huge difference between back in the day and now because video games are so good. I mean, the temptation of video games wasn't as great back in the day. So there was a lot of outdoor activity. I mean, the temptation of video games wasn't as great back in the day. Right.

So there was a lot of outdoor activity. I played backyard football. We played kill the man with the ball or whatever almost every day. I played some form of football probably four or five days a week growing up for like a long time in my life. So I was never scared to tackle. But in a game, you always, somebody who who hadn't played football with pads and shit like you never i had no idea how to put the pads on i mean that was that was the

classic i mean those stories happen where nigel you know in a replacement says no cool how to put the pads on i had no fucking idea how to put those things on but then once you start what you don't really know until you get your first hit with them and i don't think my first hit was until like a real game i was like oh this is fucking awesome we can just plow people but it was always always the response from the football team was always like hey don't fucking we don't need you getting hurt on our fucking dime basically that's how the football tackle the man with the football was like the best training thing or the best game ever and jorms our generation should be ashamed that we didn't use that name we called it something something else, and it had to go away.

But that was like the most fun. Yeah, it was a great game. That was the most fun. I wasn't going to say the name. I'm just saying. What did you guys call it? It was called something else. You can't say anything.

Nothing good. But that game trained like every good quarterback, I mean every good running back that developed in high school was the neighborhood kid who just fucking demolished everybody at that game. Great conversation by us, boys. I'll tell you what, boys. The way our mouths are moving into those microphones at the current time, and we're only heating up, by the way.

What you're about to hear is even better. Isn't that true, boys? Hot mic. 1000%. Hot, hot, hot. That sounds like the Cleveland Brown coach guy. Wiley. Coach Wiley.

I don't know how much I love that Santa thing. That was one of the worst things I've seen. I love it. I like Cleveland Browns. I like the way they operate. I like the way they're moving socially with everything. I didn't love that video. They're trying a little too hard.

Don't jump the shark with Wiley. By the way, Wiley legend, though. So I would not be mad if I saw more of him from the Cleveland Browns. Just that video, I didn't think it didn't. We want authentic Bob. Yeah, but people are going to miss. We miss it. We miss all the time.

Literally. Well, it shows it. He took a shot. He took a shot. Take a shot. But let Bob be Bob. That's what we're saying. Bob's as fine as Bob.

Let's put our swords together. We want Bob Wiley, not Santa Claus. Yeah. Tim Allen's our Santa Claus. Bob Wiley was attempting as soon as I see Santa, I see Tim Allen. Bob Wiley had no chance. It's already been done, bro.

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Till January 31st, four men will attempt to lose weight. Todd McComas, Diggs, Zito, and Foxy, by the way, new manager. Foxy, Zito's new manager. By the way, I relinquished the role of manager of Zito.

You recused yourself. Because I think I'm giving them money, so I should probably be out of the thing. That makes me happy. But also, I think me being an independent observationist Bounce around, yeah. Team to team. is a good idea.

Also, I saw the pub falling apart. Yes. So this is a way for maybe Foxy and Zito and the pub to come together. That just made a good team is a good idea also i saw the pub falling apart yes so this is a way for maybe foxy and zito and the pub to come together and a good manager that's what i'm saying i i did this for the pub's doing fine we got we got the former champ here he's gonna bring the 10 grand home and we're gonna have a new bar it's like a couple whose marriage is ending talking to their kids wow it's fine it's fine no it not. I see you fight every night. Every night.

I will say, we forgot one person in this competition. Tim McAfee. Most important, yes. Tim McAfee and Ty Schmitt. I'm behind him 100%. Yeah, the competition's already over. Look at that. Zito's behind Tim McAfee 100%.

I know what Zito's doing. He's locked in. Well, Foxy already spent Zito's money on the new bar. No, he's the one that said that. He said that a couple times. Yeah, but he's 100% behind another. This is what I'm saying. The pub has no communication issue. That's a team that. He said that a couple times. Yeah, but he's 100% behind another. This is what I'm saying. The pub has no communication issues.

That's a team issue. That's not a pub issue. I know what Zeed's doing, all right? He's going to hype Tim up just to slide right under the carpet and win this thing. That's Team Zito, okay? That's not a pub issue. We're fine. We're golden, baby.

But I wanted to make sure the two-thirds of the pub were together. You know what I mean? Yeah, well, you got to talk to them then. I do appreciate that. Yeah, but it felt like the pub is 100% behind Tim for this challenge. Really? Yes. Interesting strategy.

What does this even mean? The pub is backing him. So the building is backing? Yes. The house that should be condemned. We're putting a portrait up of Tim. We talked to the house. Yep. And the house wants to be condemned. We're putting a portrait up of Tim. We talked to the house.

Yep. And the house wants to be behind Tim. The house doesn't want to be behind the involvement of any of its residents. Or getting better, potentially. The house doesn't want to get better, potentially, at all. I don't know if the pub can get any better right now. Yeah. Seriously. I think it can get better.

I think it can get better by investing in it. Yes, smart. If you guys don't win, which I think is very likely, all of you, all of you will probably lose. Because Tim's winning, yep. Well, probably because of that, but also the pub has this funny way of losing mostly. Yeah, sometimes.

Choke. They have a funny way of losing. Not often. A mis-strategy. Yes. Some sort of communication failure. A lot of confidence from the pub. Misguided confidence. Yeah, it's false confidence. It mis-strategy. Yes. Of some sort of communication failure. A lot of confidence from the pub. Misguided confidence.

Yeah, it's false confidence. It's a beautiful thing. A lot of people survive a long time with false confidence. There's nothing wrong with you guys having very fake confidence. Strong willed. See, Zito? There's nothing wrong with having faux confidence. Faux confidence, not bad.

But you guys should have real money in your pockets. I like that idea. You should have real money in your pockets. I like that idea. You should have real money in your pockets. And I have a brilliant way for you guys to invest in your future. Tell me more about this, guys. Invest in yourselves. Yeah. Invest in the pub.

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That's true. I've seen it. Todd's seen it. Todd's seen it. My friends bitch about it all the time. What did that one guy say at that one thing? $10 a transfer they're getting from me. I'm like, what are you fucking kidding me?

$10 a transfer? What a sucker. That's insane. You're pissing it away. I used to have to deal with that. But weren't you at a buffet? You were at a buffet. The guy dropped his phone and thing because he was talking about it.

With the waffles. With that thing, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a screen. So not only were they charging him $10 per transfer, they also owe him a new phone because he broke it bitching about it. The least they could do. What did it fall into?

He didn't even have the insurance. He's got to buy a whole brand new phone. Oh, shit. This guy doesn't make good decisions. Are you kidding me? No. Yeah, he was giving away $10 a trade. He's a bad decision maker. What did it fall into?

His phone fall into there? It fell into, it bounced off the chili, because the chili's right there at the end of the buffet. Bounced off the chili, scraped the green beans against the glass, boom, right on the tile floor. Oh, so it landed down. Did it land face down? Face down. chili, scraped the green beans against the glass. Boom. Right on the tile floor. So it landed down. Did it land face down? So it was like a guessing game. Scratch off. Is it broke? That's the worst.

Five minutes he would just look down. Afraid to pick it up. So he's like $10 in his transfer fees. Yeah, I remember the whole buffet line was backed up because he couldn't pick up the phone. In front of everybody. Everybody was just waiting for him to see if his phone was broken or not. Everybody was there. Everybody in the whole place. Everybody in the whole Golden Corral.

But everybody in there also heard. Everybody in that Golden Corral also heard, though, that he was paying $10 a thing. And they were all like, this guy makes fucking money. What an idiot. This guy deserves his broken phone. Don't have a broken phone. Probably would make his wife pay the bill as well. Wow.

Scumbag. How'd that conversation start with him between you and him? It was just at the chili? Yeah, we were just at the table, and I was bitching about how much I hate croutons, right? And I go over to the salad. I go get salad. Three fucking croutons in there.

Somebody with the crouton forcep, use that also on the lettuce. That's what happened. You know what it was? Or drag the croutons across the lettuce. Like a prick. Drop them in there. Like a fucking prick.

They're in separate containers for a fucking reason. You know what I mean? Some people don't want to fuck croutons on the fucking lettuce. So I'm in there bitching about that. And then he said, you think that's bad? You know how much I pay per transfer? Yeah. Every fucking time.

So he's a one-upper guy too. Yeah. So this guy is also a one-upper guy. I felt bad too. I'm like, here, I'm bitching about a fucking crouton. This guy, he's got one-upper guy, too. Yeah. So this guy is also a one-upper guy. I felt bad, too. I'm like, here, I'm bitching about a fucking crouton. This guy, he's out all kinds of money. Yeah. I yielded.

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That's mcafee.robinhood.com. Let's go. Shout out. Let's get back to this conversation. By the way, that guy who broke his phone fucking real jack real he deserved it ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a man whose life is a real life blockbuster matthew mcconaughey some other guy, too, for the money. He's a sports handicapper. He was a friend of our serious show.

He married the professional adult ballerina that was at the Pink Rhino in Vegas. He's a legendary human being. He's going to give out some picks for us all to get rich this weekend. Ladies and gentlemen, Brandon Lang. Not bad, actually. Experiment, first of all, not think, but that's fine. You're in the neighborhood. I would say the guy that came on last year and shocked the world

when on our first show together told us that Loyola Chicago would go to the Final Four. together, told us that Loyola Chicago would go to the Final Four. He has joined us today to give us another sleeper right now in college basketball for the Final Four. Duke. And it just so happens to be a team I had last night, but we'll get into that later. Hey, I completely forgot about your Loyola call. That was one of the greatest calls in the history of sports gambling.

Everybody said that you were a dummy. I got a lot of people tweeting me telling me this guy's a fucking idiot. And then lo and behold, that 100-year-old nun and that basketball team won on that run and just in Brandon Lang's name. Yeah, and I got it. Well, you know, we'll segue right into it. Last night I had a nice play

on Buffalo plus the three and a half at Syracuse. They won the game outright, pulled away in the second half. This is a Buffalo team that returned six of their top seven scores from last year. It's a team that knocked off number four seed Arizona last year. They are filthy. They are loaded. They're now 11-0, ranked 15th, probably going to move up to 10th

if they can go on the road Friday and beat Marquette. Their coach said before the game last night in my research, we lost to them last year, 81-74. I felt we were the better team last year. I feel we're the better team this year. You gave me three and a half. We money-lined them, and they went out there and turned a four-point deficit with about four minutes to go.

And my boy Massengill just lit him up for 25. Yo, Massengill gets hot. Massengill gets hot. You got no shot. None. So keep an eye. That team could be this year's Loyola Chicago. Know that.

Print that right now. They got this kid Perkins to left. He comes off the bench. That's the second coming of Sam Perkins. Keep an eye on Buffalo. I'm giving them to you early. I mean early. It's Christmas season.

It's the holiday season. You're giving out gifts. Also, here's a little gift from the past. Did you ever golf caddy for Jim Irsay? Yeah, I told you. He was my regular my last year at Riviera. Now, here's a story about Jim. Anybody who tells you they know Jim Irsay,

then they'll tell you, like Junior Seau would call everybody Buddy. What's up, Buddy? How you doing, Buddy? Jim Irsay, if you know him or are around him, calls everybody Pardsey. What's up, Pardsey? How you doing, Pardsey? What's going on, Pardsey? I have no idea. I've never been called a Pardsey in a whileardsy how you doing pardsy what's going on pardsy i have no idea i've never been called a part you know you call parts hey parts it's like

you don't do you know who was with jim ursae any one of those times named jeffrey gorman kind of a handsome looking older guy i'm still pissed off at you brandon for the landing area on 10 that you would always give me plus you give me a shit read on 10 every time. So I'm still down on you, but I love you. Wait a minute now. Does Jeff have kind of black hair? It's kind of brown. He's got blue eyes. He's kind of an attractive looking guy.

He's very old, looks younger. He's a movie star. He's got an imbd.com page. Every time we were out at Rivie, you told me about your movie, all right? Number one. You remember my brother out there one time too? Starting to come back to me now. Oh, horseshit. Come on.

For fuck's sake. Unbelievable. Listen, we're going back to 2000, circa 2002, 2003,

Big Daddy. I mean, that's... All right, let me see if it's a real Brandon Lane. How much to carry Ursae's bag each time? I know what the number was. What was it? All right, well, Big Daddy. How much? All right, let me see if it's a real Brandon Lang. How much did you carry Irsay's bag each time? I know what the number was. What was it? All right, well, first of all, you never carried his bag.

He was only in a cart. That's first and foremost. Second of all, I was always in a cart with Jim by myself, and then Steve Hanamoto would have the three guests every time. I would just take care of Jim. So you're saying you never worked for Gorman, Steve Hanamoto. I like Stevie. Stevie could read those greens. Stevie's been there forever. Now, I, of course, am the caddy that holds the course record 61 for Ted Trebaugh.

So obviously you've got to be able to read some greens if you take a PGA Tour player around there in 61. But back to the story, Hanamono had the other three guys. I had Jim at that time, 2003. Jim would give us each 500 cash. Not the same guy. It was your yard every time. Thousand. Come on, Lang.

Listen, not then. He only gave us 500 a pop. Now, later on when Hanamoto had him with Hammer, who Jim flew in and gave him spending money and put him up and had him in the suite. And they really had a good run. He had bumped it up to $1,000, according to Steve, later on. But when we first had him, when he first joined Riv, he gave us each $500.

Listen, that's the greatest story ever because the morning I went in that I got Jim, I was still single. There was a massage parlor down on Wilshire Boulevard right next to the Shakey's Pizza. And that morning driving in, I didn't know I had her say it, but that morning driving in at about nine o'clock, two hot Asians went by me and two brand new Mercedes and pulled into the back alley by the massage parlor. So I'm like, these can't be masseuses. So I pull in behind them and sure enough, they go right into the back of the massage parlor. So I go

up at 9 a.m., banging on the back door. The madam's like, we not open. We not open. I'm like, listen, I know you're not open. I just, who are the two Asian girls that come in? I want to come see them later. She goes, we not open. I go, I know you're not open. Give me their names so I can ask for them.

Finally, after banging for like five minutes, she gives me their names. I'm like, thank you. I go up to Riv. I get Ursae with Hanamoto. We take Ursae around. He bangs the seats for $500. I go, come on. Let's go. We go right back to the massage parlor. They were a porn

star hot. Kobe Ty, Nico Lee, Kikani Kai, Tiana Kai. I mean, that level, they were unbelievable. I mean, that level. They were unbelievable. And I, for a year, saw this girl, tried to pull her out of there, get a date with her. She just would not budge. Jim Irsay making dreams come true.

Jim Irsay. Jim Irsay. Hey, Pardsy, what have you been up to, man? Just in Vegas, just on fire in college basketball. Good NFL run. College football, a little 50-50, but college hoop has just been unbelievable. It really has. And like I said, we moved back here full-time from Jacksonville to Vegas. I've been

back home here for three months, and it's, you know, the carnage in Vegas is just fantastic. So, that's it. Just bowl season. Super Bowl's coming up. Trying to win games and keep her going man i went through a goddamn drought now i was hot early i was doing all money lines i was feeling it and then everybody told me when i was betting these money lines they're like hey hey that money line's gonna fuck you over one time and then the titans beat the patriots and that started a down

down downfall for me mr lang i need to start I need to start taking your advice a little bit more, I think. Well, we can segue right into it. NFL this weekend. Tell me what you're looking at. I'll tell you if you're on the right side. Okay. Let me dig this up. Let me pull up my bookie here on my phone.

Pull up your bookie. Let's go back to Ursae's voice. So how did you work for Jim, or were you just a guest of Jim? I don't know if I'm going to answer you right now because you're kind of offended that you didn't remember. Because I listen to your hustle every other hole. And, yeah, no, yeah, I worked for the Colts. Go out there with Jim.

Get the call down from the boss's office. We're going to Rivi tomorrow. Be ready. Because another guy that came out with him that no longer works for him that he was kind of he was he didn't like me much he kind of he kind of didn't want me to caddy for probably his brother my brother yeah that's probably this guy's brother okay that's exactly right he's like jim loved me and and this guy was like told hanamoto uh brandon rubs me the wrong way don't get brandon out there hanamon like, I can't do that.

Jim likes him. And so when I finally retired, that was his way of me getting off the loop. Yeah, so that was your brother. He loved Hammer, though. He loved Hammer, though. It's kind of awkward. Hammer, listen, Hammer, Hammer, man. Talk about a guy who hit a golf ball.

I mean, he's actually now, you ready for this? Hammer parlayed his caddy rib job. Now he's Mark Wahlberg's assistant. He's Mark Wahlberg. So he parlayed his momentary. He got Wahlberg. I wouldn't say that. We all laugh about it.

Mark Wahlberg speed golfs for 30 minutes every single morning. Yeah, he's Mark Wahlberg's gopher. He's his gopher. Hammer's his full-time caddy. Travels with him, but he's his gopher hammers is his full-time caddy travels with him but he's his gopher they rip on him they make fun of him but he's the hammer's a good dude but that's what he's doing now so pretty funny man all right you ready yep okay i love the indianapolis colts minus nine at home against the new york giants let me tell you why darius leonard just came on the show incredible interview Huge chip on his shoulder going against Saquon Barkley this weekend.

Also, Andrew Luck, not a Pro Bowl nod. I think the team is using this very much as motivation to bury Eli Manning, his weak arm in the New York Giants. Am I on the right track? You're on the right side. You lose with Indy before you take a shot with the Giants. You look at Indy, I think they're the only team with both a top-ten offense and top-ten defense right now.

Nine's a lot, though, right? Saints, they're the hottest team in the NFL. Five straight home wins by an average margin of 16 points. I think the best quarterback-head coach relationship in the NFL right now is Frank Reich and Andrew Luck. This is a dangerous team right now that if I'm anybody else in the AFC, I don't want to see them right now. I hope they get in because I think they're more dangerous

than Philip Crymeer Rivers in San Diego. Oh! Crymeer Rivers! And listen, I always call him San Diego because he'll never be L.A. to me. So definitely on the right side with Indigo. Did you see the photo from the Monday Night Football booth? I think they took a picture of somebody, whoever was calling the Chargers game. There is, you know how Matt Nagy has the BU on the thing?

There was a huge, like, poster in front of whoever was the color commentator that said Los Angeles Chargers. Los Angeles was underlined. Like, remember, this is Los Angeles, not San Diego. Nobody knows that it's Los Angeles Chargers. It's only a matter of time. I like this. Pittsburgh Steelers plus five and a half in New Orleans.

You're on the right side. Everybody's betting New Orleans in this game. And Pittsburgh's a dangerous dog. You know, they're not laying 10 on the road at Pittsburgh. They're not laying. I mean, this is an interesting spot because you look at the Saints the last few weeks. They haven't looked impressive, even at Tampa, even at Carolina Monday night, even at Dallas. Pittsburgh on the road getting more than a field goal.

Very rarely do you ever get Pittsburgh any time in the NFL as a dog of more than three points, ever. You're always laying chalk with them. So from a value number, this is the same team that failed to cover seven of their past 11 as a non-division home favorite. So you're definitely on the right side of Pittsburgh. I like what I'm doing here. I feel like I'm really getting good. I've been in the Saints place down there, that dumb Mercedes-Benz.

And I think we actually lost by 50 down there. When that place gets a humming, it's hard to stop. But the Pittsburgh Steelers fans will utilize this potential trip down to the Bayou, down to Bourbon Street in the middle of December. They will be that place will be filled with some Pittsburgh Steelers fans in there as well. I'm not sure the home field advantage will help as much as it normally does. I think there's going to be some terrible towels down there. Well, from a scheme standpoint, from a matchup standpoint, the secondary of the Saints, this is going to be the first game

where they're really going to be tested by what Pittsburgh's going to throw at them. You look at Tampa, Tampa didn't test them. Carolina can't test them. Dallas can't test them. This Pittsburgh offense is going to test them. I think the Saints win the game, but I think it goes right down the wires to a field goal game. Rams have looked like absolute dog shit these last couple weeks.

Arizona Cardinals in Arizona, they're giving 13 and a half points to the Cardinals. Are they just going to blow the doors off of them, or do you think the Cardinals definitely cover here? I've said it for years. It's a five-word answer that you don't get very often. You're going to get this dick. D-D-H-D-D. And it's not breast or tits at the Rhino.

It's double-digit divisional home dog. Double-digit. You hardly ever get it. Example. Buffalo was catching 11 and a half 12 from from new england and they were right there till the pick six by derrick anderson um something tells me you can't trust laying double digits on the road with the rams when you got a defense that can't get you stops their defense is really bad right now. Really bad. Nick Foles had guys wide open.

It's a game I'd stay away from, but something tells me you can't trust the Rams laying double digits right now against anybody. That showed Monday night. Their offensive line, and you follow football, their offensive line can't protect. Could it be a potential?

Fletcher Cox just abused them. So if you can't got the old golf numbers are down. He doesn't have time to throw. Gurley's banged up. Now they sign Anderson. There is some stuff going on with the Rams right now. So I'd be careful laying double digits with them right now. I really would.

Could it be a potential teaser spot? That's where everybody's going to tease them down 10 points and lay three. And, yeah, that's what everybody, I'd rather tease Arizona up to plus 20. I'm sorry, 23.5 than to trust the Rams right now. You can't lay points on the road if you don't have a defense. Hey, Seattle, getting points at home against

Mahomes. Prime time. It's the same thing. You're asking the Chiefs to lay points with a defense that's a sieve. I don't trust the Chiefs. I don't trust their defense in this spot. Seattle might run for 400 yards. And Pat will be the first to tell you, if you can run the football in the NFL,

you're going to win games at home. And they're going to jam the football right down their throat. Okay, so Seattle wins that, he says. So we're taking money. Well, while we're there, Baltimore on the road against Rivers. What side am I on? You're on the dog, plus seven. What's the current line now?

I went down to four and a half. Four and a half. Everybody was on the dog. Wow, Jesus Christ. Everybody's betting Baltimore. Is that going to change the way Brandon Lang looks at this because everybody else is on this? Well, first of all,

I think one of the best bets of the day is Seattle at home. If you saw their defense against the Vikings and Bobby Wagner and how good they're playing and how bad Kansas City's defense is that to lose the way they lost,

do you trust Andy Reid in the Pacific Northwest in a food coma after sitting around all day on Monday eating? That's a fat man that likes his food. And I think Andy Reid's problem and his problem has always been he eats too much sugar, and it affects his brain, and it affects his pattern of thinking. This is unbelievable. There's no way you should blow a 14-point

lead at home with less than five minutes to go. Any coach in the NFL? None. While I'm at it, if you're going to fire the offensive coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings, how the fuck does the defensive coordinator, Sutton, still have a job for

Kansas City with how he coached the last five minutes with his defense. Ungodly how bad this is, how Sutton has a job. Yeah, but he's been there 15 years, though, Brandon. What? He's been there a long time. And we don't wish for people to get fired on this show, Brandon. We wish for McCarthy.

Ty Schmidt wished for McCarthy to get fired. It happened. I don't enjoy that. I don't like being a part of that. Brandon, how long have you been doing this? 27 years of this godforsaken business. How do you survive? I've just been gambling here for a year and a half.

And there's a couple times where the end of the game is legitimately a potential. It could be it for me. The emotional investment is huge. How have you survived 27 years of day in, day out, every pick matters? Tranny porn, man. You've got to be the dumbest, bro. It's wild. People ask me that all the time,

and my doctor tells me how my blood pressure is still perfect with this stress. You learn to balance it after 27 years. But the hard thing for me is I would rather release a game and get blown out by 50 than to lose a game like the Chiefs last Thursday night. And over 27 years, you've been mixing in a steaming cream. Always that. Always that. I'm not a big weed guy. What been mixing in a steaming cream. Always that. Always that. I'm not a big weed guy. What the fuck's a steaming cream?

I'm not a big substance guy to escape reality. I've learned, and Scott Van Pelt talks about it sometimes, about being on the right side of the game. And some people say the right side of the game doesn't get you paid. Well, in my business, if you get your clients more on the right side of the game than the wrong side of the game, at least you're. Well, in my business, if you get your clients more on the right side of the game than the wrong side of the game, at least you're validating in them that you have an opinion. I'm on a 22-7 college basketball race going back to last year.

Let's go! And of those 22 winners, 17 have been underdogs that have won outright. So I'm not just giving you a dog. When I look at a college basketball board and there's 80 games, I'm not just looking for a dog that's going to cover. I'm looking for a dog that's going to win the game outright. And Buffalo was that dog. Penn, plus the points

over Villanova last week, beat him for the first time in 16 years. Penn was plus seven, won the game outright. It's just getting a good run. That's it. If I'm on the right side of the game, I don't beat myself up too bad. I've had some terrible college picks this year, terrible. And that's what pisses me off the most and gets me down the most,

is that I've been doing this so long that I should be able to look at a board and get on the right side of a game and know we're on the right side of the game and lose than to just blatantly, you know, let me give you an example. Anybody that touted the LA Rams as their best bet of the week last week and told you to unload the house, how do you trust that opinion? That was an 11.5, 12-point favorite that lost the game outright, that had no prayer on the planet from covering. Can't win with that. Don't want to win no prayer on the planet from covering. Can't win with that. Don't want to win with that.

Can't do it. Can't trust it. You know? Don't ever want to trust it. Won't be able to trust it. Kind of want to get that person the fuck out of you. So that's it. You just, you balance it.

And I'll tell you what. I may have massive, horrible losing streaks. Everybody that does what I do for a living does. You're not going to win every day. I also have massive, big winning streaks. I'm honest. I tell the truth. I've had a rock-solid NFL season. I'm having a rock-solid college season.

I can't pick my ass in college football right now. I don't think anybody can, to be honest. I think it's kind of tough. It's unbelievable what's going on. So I just stick with college hoops, and unless I do love something in the bowls that I really see that's of value, I'll just keep releasing college basketball picks until we get to the NFL on Saturday because I'm seeing the college basketball board.

And by the way, I've got to tell you, Pat, I saw one on YouTube. Watch the little piece. You've got a pretty good jumper, buddy. You've got a pretty good jumper. Elbows in, you're square. I saw some interview you did with a kid at the old studios when you were employed by SiriusXM.

Nice little jumper. Wouldn't mind coming to town and playing a little horse for maybe $100 a letter. Brandon, you need to get out here. We'll make it $1,000. Come on out here. $1,000 a letter. Come on out.

You can come right into the Pat McAfee basketball court. We've got cornhole here as well. I don't know what you fancy. We can make anything happen. We would love to have 27 years of sports handicapping. Gun deal. We'll make it happen. If you want to go $1,000 a letter, we can go $1,000 a letter.

Don't hustle a hustler. I'm joking. Whatever. I've taken better players, one-foot banks from behind the three line. A lot of crazy stuff going on, kid. But we'll keep it nice. But I like that basketball court. That was sweet.

Instead of horse, we'll play D-D-H-D. And I won't even have to do the first D before you have four Ds inside of you. Listen, if I'm coming, we'll find some double Ds to cheer us on for the horse matchup. You're an idiot. Brandon, we appreciate you so much. Where can they follow along at? BrandonLang.com. That's it.

Like I said, 17-9 NFL run going back to last year. And I'm sorry, 39-23 NFL run going back to last year, 22-7 in college hoops. Sticking with those two for the duration of the new year. Although I will tell you, my lean is toward Notre Dame plus the points. And if Nick Saban wants to score 80 points on Oklahoma, he can. It's just a matter of if he will. You know what? You don't do surgery on a sprained ankle.

So Tua has a broken ankle for sure. I don't think that matters. The run game of Alabama, there's nothing Oklahoma will be able to do to stop Bama from scoring 50-plus. Nothing. Even if it's Jalen Hurst, nothing. They are so bad defensively against elite competition. So Bama's getting 50.

So the question you ask yourself when you lay that 14 number, or 14.5, or 15, can Oklahoma on Bama score 30-plus if with Nick Saban having six weeks to prepare? That's how you look at that game. Because if you think Murray can put up over 30 on Bama's defense, then bet Oklahoma all day long because that's what it's going to take because there's nothing that Oklahoma's defensive line is going to do to stop Bama's offensive line from gouging them

and doing whatever they want. Nothing. Bama's getting 50. You think Oklahoma can get you 30-plus? Bet them. I don't. You know there was people saying that Bama team could beat an NFL team. That was crazy.

Anyways, pray to the light. Appreciate you so much, man. You're the best. Got it. Thanks, Pat. See you guys. See you. That was a rough call for you, Gorm.

That was a rough call. Early there, he didn't remember you. No, he didn't. No idea who it was. He knew his brother before he knew Gorbs And he hated his brother That was a bad call for you Gorbs That was rough No worries off my back

He's the one that was taken off of Ursae's back Not me He was talking about a guy who didn't really like him And worked for the Colts I figured it was you No it wasn't me. His brother had a very similar job title as Jeffrey. I enjoyed.

Well, he was his assistant. I mean, that was the bottom line. Scotty was there. I was doing other media stuff and get the call and go out there. But Brandon, who we love. I loved his personality. Go on. Go on.

He was going for, hey, Jim, I got a deal for you here. Got it. He's shooting a shot. By the way, not a bad idea. Just for future reference, Brandon's a friend of the show, and he's a lunatic of a man. I mean, every time he's on this show, he tells some story that is absolute lunacy.

He's been a sports handicapper for 27 fucking years. He's a lunatic for sure, but that's definitely something Brandon Lang would do is shoot his shot with Jim Irsay. Yeah, well, if fucking caddies are becoming Wahlberg's assistants, why aren't you going to shoot your fucking shot? Yeah, I'd probably take a couple myself. Pat, you take one of those shots on a round.

That's fine. You take another one when he plays back-to-back days. He'd play four or five straight days. You do two of them. How's Irsay's golfing? It's fine. But then you do it every time you go out there with them

I see where Gorms is coming from because this used to happen with Pat when we would go out and drink people would come up and like pitch shit

and ask him for shit and I used to feel the same way the guy just wants to go golf was Brandon pitching two for the money to Jim absolutely

told us all about that told us all about the movie the script that he had every time that he would do it and finally after a while guy says hey i'm going out to the west coast i'm gonna have my relax i'm gonna have some of my boys with me i'm gonna go out and play golf he doesn't want to get pitched all the time brandon you could tell i can he's a mouth you know as somebody who like my lady gets mad my parents get mad my friends get mad people pitch me a lot but as the person that happens i'm normally so intrigued by the

conversation with the people that i am just enjoying i can see how it's annoying it's very annoying to jim mercy i assume but also jim probably i don't want to say enjoyed the conversation but it's also something i'm sure jim later said listen to this fucking caddy you know what i mean like i bet there was how was jim's game pretty good what it was he hasn't played in a while with the surgeries and stuff. But it was interesting. Yeah, he carries two drivers. Never know which one's going to be hot.

Never know which one's going to be hot. The bag gets bigger each year. That was great. Well, I mean, if the club ain't doing a job, we've got to add a friend. I know a lot of guys that carry two drivers. Hey, the chipper. Do you remember the chipper? Oh, yeah.

Larmond, Chris Larmond, one of our friends, had this little. I used to suck out of the rough. Whenever I was down to a very low handicap, I was in the single digits. I don't know how low I got, but I was pretty low. I was playing a lot. I had one glaring weakness. And it was if I was on the fringe, if I was close, and for some reason I couldn't get my putter to control how hard it was going, and my wedge couldn't do it.

So my friend Larman gave me this little chipper. It's like a putter that has a slant on it. Yeah, that's great. Just put it. Yeah, it was awesome. It was like cheating. I felt like I was cheating. With heavy weight on the back of the thing?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. A cork bat? But it had to take a place of one of my clubs, because you're only allowed a certain amount of clubs whenever you're going for the handicap thing. And it was hilarious just pulling out, like looking at the four iron. I got you fucking. Get the fuck out of here.

I got a 60 degree. I got a 53. I got a fucking sandwich. I got a lob wedge. I got a chipper. These things are just like, but that's how I play. That was my best rounds of golf.

If you need four drivers, because you can only get one good shot out of each one, you pack them in there. You might be putting one in the lake. You never know. You never know. Drowning a club. Great move. Big G.

Immature. Depends what club it is. If it's a wedge that we can get rid of, you throw her in. I had that driver for like five years. Hey, you retired that day. That thing was dead. It was over. It was dead. It was over. It was dead.

It was dead. It had nothing left in it. That driver, I think it ran out of juice the night before that outing. It was just a rough day. The driver had a lot of good ones in it, but not for the last couple years. Do you guys think Larman jumped in the water to resell it? No, I doubt it. Put it back in a pro shop?

Not a bad play. We'll be back for the Italian Club outing. I'm sure I have a new driver. I'll tell you what. Gorms, you still golf? You're a golfer. I had the surgery about six years ago on my neck. Same one Petey Pie had.

Fusion on four and five. Pardsey. What the fuck's Pardsey, man? Well, Pardsey's like, hey, Pardsey, how you doing? It's like an old- He called me- It's like Cuz. Yeah, it's like Cuz,

but it was back in the day in the Western. Hey, Pards, you got to work on it. I might start picking it. Is there any terrible meaning behind this? No, it's short for partner.

It's short for partner, but it's Pards, yeah. Oh. And then he went into Pardsy. I'll tell you what, I don't mind Pardsy. Pards. You throw an E on the end

of something, it's the best. Hey, what's up, Pards? So the T becomes D, though. Pardsy. Every texter say, hey, Pards. Hey, Pards. Yeah, what's up, Parch? So the T becomes D, though. Parch. Yeah. Every texter say, hey, Parch. Hey, Parch. Yeah, every texter.

I'd never heard anybody. Every fucking texter say it. No, I'm just saying it's how you start the thing. Hey, you want to talk about it. Yeah, every time. It never stops. Brandon Lane in the middle of it. About his blood pressure. Absolutely perfect, by the way.

Best doctors on earth. All right, Diggs, what's going on this weekend? I mean, we hit a lot of it there. Yeah, we got a lot of games that mean things. So Titans, Redskins, basically losers out of the playoffs. Titans got that, I assume. I like that Titans team. They're a 10-point favorite.

I like Vrabel as a coach. I like Vrabel as a coach. Great player. He was a motivator as a player. He transferred over easily. In New York last week, it was rainy. It was cold. And it felt like that was like a Vrabel, like

Vrabel was looking at his team. He didn't have a visor on. I don't think he had a visor on. He's out there doing warm-ups with the team. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think that's a cool thing. I like Taylor LeJuan a lot, too. Joe Thomas likes him. Ravens, Chargers, Chargers still going for the one seed. Ravens need to win to stay in contention to win the North

and even go into the playoffs, because if they lose then the Colts win. That can't be on TV, huh? Yeah, it's Saturday night. Oh, nice. Prime time Saturday night. Let's go. Colts, Giants, we already talked about.

Colts need the win to obviously lead for all the Ravens. If they lose, nine-point dogs – or nine-point favorites, sorry. Eagles, Texans. Yep. Basically a playoff game for both teams because Texans will follow the three seed. Eagles, if they lose, they're out pretty much. Nick Foles is back. Yes. Patriots' biggest game on Sunday.

J.J. Watt don't care, by the way. No, no, no. J.J. Watt don't care. He does not care. Is that game on national TV? I don't think so. That's not good for the Texans. That's on national TV.

J.J. probably gets 15 sacks and a fumble. I don't know. Cowboys, Bucs. Cowboys beat them. They win the NFC East. Rolling on. Vikings need to beat the Lions to stay in the playoff race. Pats, Bills.

Pats need to win the third loss in a row. That'd be a tough one. That would be... To the Bills? I don't know how I'd feel. Is it in Buffalo? I don't know. Dodo's flying.

No, it's in New England. Hey, this morning on ESPN, 8% chance that the Patriots win the Super Bowl. And I was like, it's fucking over. Yeah, and the first thing I did was run into the book, ESPN, 8% chance that the Patriots win the Super Bowl. And I was like, it's fucking over. They're going to do it. And the first thing I did was run into the book, best odds I've seen the Patriots to win the Super Bowl since, I don't know, 2013. Since Drew Bledsoe. Yeah, it was plus 550.

First time in years it's been above 250. Let's go. It's going to happen. They had to do it. It's going to happen. Did you hear him too? The Chiefs, they are a sieve on defense. The East is wide open.

AFC is an absolute. Anybody can go. I'm worried about the Texans. That's why we need this home field. Big game. Let's go, Eagles. The national game at 420. Let's go, Eagles.

The national game at 425 is Steelers-Saints. I'm excited for that. That's a big one. I do believe that the Mercedes-Benz dome down there, that environment is a weapon for them when it gets going. But I think that's Pittsburgh. I think that helps out because Pittsburgh will travel. They will travel.

It's an even bigger game if the Ravens upset the Chargers on Saturday night because the Steelers have to win pretty much. What are the Saints playing for right now? The Saints are the one seed. So they're 12-2. But they've been cold. The Rams have three losses. They have not looked good.

So basically they are playing to stay ahead of the Rams. I don't think the Steelers beat the Saints. I think the Saints win because they proved that they can win ugly last week. But, man, I don't know if the Saints are this team that they were earlier. Drew Brees seemed to be unstoppable. Diggs, why do you think that happened? Because it came too obvious? Well, yeah.

What happened was we had talked about it on the show, and sometimes when we talk about things on the show, it gets noticed. It gets noticed by the league. It gets noticed by everyone. It happens on a regular basis. Darius Leonard comes on our show two weeks ago. He's in the Pro Bowl. So the league noticed and was catching wind that we were on to them

about Drew Brees and the league being for him. Cheating. So they had to make it closer games. So the last few weeks, they've dialed everything back, make the Saints look like a human team again. Don't worry, when the playoffs come around again, the Saints will be back. They're back. Yeah, that's the thing, too.

If they lock up the one seed, if all roads go through that Superdome, there's a serious chance the Saints are going back to the Super Bowl. Yes. That place is a weapon. The Rams at Saints, I don't think they stand a chance. And then they go to Atlanta, a place where they're nice and comfy. Yeah, exactly. It's in Atlanta.

Division Stadium. They play there twice a year. True. And then the primetime game is, we talked about it with Brandon Lang, the Seahawks and Chiefs. Oh, yeah. He's feeling the Seahawks. That seems like bro, bro, bro bets.

You guys are... Bro, bro, bets podcast is coming soon, by the way. Yep. Three degenerates. None of them agree, but they'll give you a bunch of picks. It's great. Love seeing you. Connor, Bro Bro Bro, and I.

It's a good time. We did a practice episode the other day. Went pretty well, to be honest with you. Went pretty well. Went longer than expected, but it was good. A little bit. I think you keep it going. As long as it's good, keep it rolling.

Yep. That's what I've always said. Oh, yeah, which brings me to the point that Bro Bro Bets Twitter is going to be run by all three of us, and we're going to put our little dash and then our name after it to let you know whose picks they are so you can fade Connor still. If you still want to be part of it. Do you like the Seahawks? No. Great. Yes. Beautiful.

Let's go. Have a great weekend. Tell me. You love the Texans. No, no, no. Listen, we don't need anything else. For a couple weeks now, I'm plotting. Don't care. Need nothing else. He hates the Seahawks on Sunday night. There you go. That's the lock of the weekend.

Shout out to MyBookie. Shout out to SeatGeek, Black Buffalo, and Robin Hood. Go ahead and get your money in there. And thank you all so much for listening. You're the absolute greatest. Tell your friends. We need them more. I'm going to give away another block set.

We gave one away for the Tuesday show. I screenshotted it i just gotta send it to the boys to reach out to them i want to give away something else maybe not a block set maybe we give away uh tickets to go see the aladdin movie oh that's a good one you wanted to talk about this aladdin movie i don't really want to talk about it i've said my piece i blogged about it what'd you? I think the cast is awesome. It looks perfectly casted up until that fucking genie. All right.

We're talking about Oscar noms already. For Will? For the part of the genie, yeah. I don't think you'd get an Oscar nom for gluing a ponytail to your head. I don't think that happens. Oh, so now he's in charge of costume? Oh, you don't think he has a say there? I tell you what, if a genie is going to win,

it's going to be a genie that does have a ponytail. Otherwise, not believable genie. Correct. That's buying into the character. Wow. That's what Will Smith does. The most believable black genie I've ever seen is Shaq. Correct.

Because him. Bless you. Hashtag endgame. Hashtag end game. Hashtag end game. Send us something that you think would make Nick Morano happy. Puppies. I don't know. I like puppies.

Dead Will Smith. Sweater puppies. No, no, no. Because I don't want to see that on my timeline. Snipes, Sally's. There we go. We didn't talk hockey at all today. Send us some hockey talk.

Hashtag end game. Hashtag end game. Send us some hockey talk. Hashtag end game. Hashtag end game. Send us some hockey talk. Do it for us. Also, tell your friends we appreciate you so much. That's a good way to enter into the raffle as well. We'll give away something cool. I'll give away like maybe a $100 gift card to the store or something like that.

That's what I'll do. $100 gift card to the store. Nice. Give away a $100 gift card. You tell your friends in a funny manner to listen to this show on Heartland Radio 2.0. Send some hilarious hockey talk. Something that makes me laugh. And then, obviously, the room is the final say.

So get something that gets at Todd McComas, at Diggs with a Z, at Nick Moraldo, at Hay Gorman, and at Bro Bro Bro Bets, at Viva Lozito, at BostonConnor, with one N, no O. Two Ns, one R. Two Ns. No E. No O. Boston, C-O-N-N-R.

Does it start with a C? It certainly. Boston, C-O-N-N-R. Oh, that's relatable. Yeah. It's easy. Easy, yeah. Easy to say.

oh that's relatable yeah that's it's very it's easy easy yeah easy to say connor yeah add evan foxy by the way um have you changed like there's some of you guys have different names on twitter and on instagram yeah i can't get the instagram one yeah i gotta figure that out i just i would just like you to know as a person who uh just likes to share information probably a lot easier going forward, just in this chosen profession. Same name on every platform. How do you go about that? Because there is no Boston Connor. I think you should change your name.

I would like to just be Connor. No, no, no. But I'm saying I think you should figure out a way to change the C-O-N-N-R. I think that's tough. It's tough. The O-R, the regular one. There's no one I know Active on Twitter

He's saying come up with whatever you have to To make them both the same And still be identifiable Yeah they are the same Well then that's good Then I wasn't referring to you As long as it helps yes Yeah it's the same

Yeah But there's It could be better It could be spelled better Yes Yes We'll work on it It's a tough guess

By the way somebody recognized me Strictly off from Instagram That was interesting Really? Your Instagram's taken off No it. It's a tough guess. By the way, somebody recognized me strictly off from Instagram. That was interesting. Your Instagram's taken off. No, it's not really that big. Well, they do. Well, I mean, you just now started working on it. Hey, you're that guy on Instagram. No, it was like this little kid who was in the mall, and I was shopping, because I did

a little shopping for everybody on Saturday, for everybody in my life. And I was in the mall, and this kid was standing next to me, obviously obviously wanted to take a picture with me but I let those kids figure it out for themselves hey if you can't ask it's not my job you know what I mean it's not my job to give you confidence this is a moment for you tough love yeah so I don't want to do anything so he taps me on the shoulder it was like a cool moment taps you on the shoulder I go what's up bub he goes you're that guy from Instagram. And I was like, possibly. Possibly. You're that kid from Instagram.

Oh, yeah, you. Yeah, I was like, maybe. That was weird, though. It was very weird. I had somebody recognize me from WWE stuff. That was kind of interesting. So it's been kind of an interesting thing. Different walks of life.

It is. It is. And I'm starting to realize that there's a lot of different like the i don't know if i don't know who i think everybody's moved to twitter by the way i think twitter is a much more active place facebook seems to be about dead i deleted mine the other day i think facebook is dead i think facebook is that instagram seems to be the oh they're flexing snapchat that's not i think everybody's from snapchat has gone over to instagram it feels like that is like you you started snapchat as like a teenager maybe or Instagram seems to be the Snapchat. I think everybody from Snapchat has gone over to Instagram.

It feels like that is like you started Snapchat as like a teenager maybe or like a young tyke. A lot of personal Snapchats now. You can pay money for them. Lucrative business. Very lucrative business. What's that mean? Use the Instagram to pub that actually. Yes, exactly.

You swipe up. You go to Snapchat. Nudes. Oh. Oh, it's like the modern day. Boobs. Wait, say that again. Boobs.

So Instagram models are creating private Snapchats so you could buy for those, see them naked on there. Really? What are they going for, prices-wise? Zito, something you should think about. I wouldn't know, I've never clicked, but probably like 15 bucks a month. Probably?

That's my guess. A lot of them are tiered. There are tiered ones. There are tiers. It's like Twitch. All right. Probably. That's my guess. A lot of them are tiered. There are tiered ones. There are tiers. It's like Twitch. All right. Oh, like a gold level? Okay.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tiered. You mean like a tattoo on it? No, the highest tier you get a poster with a signed letter. I don't know how you talk about the boobs.

You got to go to their Patreon. All right. Onlyfans.com. Okay. Jesus. You should do that when you're on Twitch though for sure. Yeah, yeah. You should do that with your twitch though for sure get some bits all right make us make us make us laugh and win some prizes i think that's a

simple life have an incredible weekend we gave you some pics there um we're so thankful for all of you zito just put his helmet back on you're ready to go to war uh you guys have a great day ty schmidt hit the music. It's been a long day without you, my friend. And I'll tell you all about it when I see you again We've come a long way From where we began Oh, I'll tell you all about it when I see you again

When I see you again Damn, oh no, All the planes we flew Good things we've been through That I'd be standing right here Talking to you about another path I know we love to hit the road and laugh But something told me that it wouldn't last Had to switch up

Look at things different, see the bigger picture Those were the days Hard work forever pays Now I see you in a better place How can we not talk about family when family's all that we got Everything I went through, you were standing there by my side And now you gon' be with me for the last ride It's been a long day without you my friend

And I'll tell you all about it when I see you again We've come a long way from where we began Oh I'll tell you all about it when I see you again When I see you again When I see you again Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, And with small turn to a friendship, a friendship turn to a bond And that bond will never be broken and love will never get lost And when brotherhood come first then the line will never be crossed Established it on our own when that line had to be drawn And that line is what we reach so remember me when I'm gone

How can we not talk about family when family's all that we got Everything I went through, you were standing there by my side And now you gon' be with me for the last ride So let the light guide your way Hold every memory as you go And every road you take Will always lead you home Home

It's been a long day Without you, my friend And I'll tell you all about it when I see you again we've come a long way from where we began oh I'll tell you all about it when I see you again When I see you again Again When I see you again When I see you again

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