The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 036 - Matt Hasselbeck, Shawne Merriman, Mogul Talk, & I Think I'm A Father

Episode Date: January 8, 2019

 On today’s show, Pat and the guys cover pretty much everything that happened over the weekend. First they are joined by a couple of former greats to break down Wild Card Weekend. Former Colts QB, current cohost of Sunday NFL countdown, and friend of the show, Matt Hasselbeck calls in. They cover the Colts victory over the Titans in Houston, how they’ll fare against the Chiefs, what he thinks of Patrick Mahomes no look passing, and why guys like Tom Brady and Drew Brees play winning football in the playoffs (4:44-19:36). Next, 2x All-Pro, creator of the Lights Out clothing brand, potential future MMA fighter and friend of the show, Shawne Merriman calls in. They chat about the Chargers moving on and why he thinks this might be their year, and also gives his take on why the Patriots may be dead. He also talks about what he’s been doing off field, ranging from his clothing brand to fighting MMA, and does a little lightning round to answer the guys’ questions (19:37-42:11). Later the guys dive deeper into everything that happened on Wild Card weekend and what it means moving forward for the rest of the playoffs. They close out the show by talking a little Golden Globes, and making a few suggestions on how it could be better in the future, and looks ahead to who they think may potentially be hosting the Oscars. It’s a good one, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Long time. Back whenever Starter was the official sponsor of the NFL, then Reebok, then Nike, a man that was brought in to make people around him better. He did that in Tennessee. He did that with the Colts. And now he's doing it at ESPN. Ladies and gentlemen, legendary bald man, Matthew Hasselbeck yeah what's up Pat hey

by the way Puma Puma was my jersey with the Seahawks my first year wow it was a Puma jersey I'm happy I was close starter was just like a mock to it it was like me saying like a my space like throwing back Puma's the same type of thing good for you you've been around a long time in this game yeah that was the thing. The Seahawks were actually in the AFC West at the time. That's what came into the AFC West. Okay, so you've seen the NFL get realigned, reshifted, and remotivated almost.

Now you're at ESPN. And to be honest, I think the most crazy thing about you is you sent me two PR people's numbers to get you on the show. Excuse me? I'm just trying to compete, man compete man you know you got your own entourage you got like the guy who uh opens the door for you you got the guy who lies and says you're in the bathroom uh how is life at espn man you're by the way i i think i can we tell people what happened like Basically, I called to talk to you. Your guy answers the phone.

He goes, oh, hold on. He's in the bathroom. As I have on my computer screen, Pat McAfee live doing weigh-ins. I'm watching it as your guy's lying to me. That's a little background. You want to know why he might have lied to you? Because let me give a little background on my side. So yesterday I texted my friend, Matt Hasselbeck. you guys ever heard of him hey good guy yeah yeah yeah yeah

pretty good quarterback yeah i was teammates with him we showered together he came to my uh my debut of my stand-up i mean really good friends first guest on my show whenever i was doing a local newspaper show here in indianapolis good friend of mine i think we sat next to each other a couple times maybe on some trips got well. Text on a very regular occasion. Good friend. Good friend of mine. So, obviously, wild card weekend. I sent a little texty text.

Yeah, big weekend. Hey, Bob, you had a great weekend on television. Your brain was good. Any way you could be a guest on my show on the podcast on Tuesday? He goes, ah, per contract, I can't say yes. Here's two people that you can get on board with. That's what you did, right, Matt? I think that you're embellishing just a little bit.

You're not really embellishing. You're leaving out something, okay? What happened was I made a pro punter slash kicker tweet, and I feel like it popped in your mind late on Sunday night. You're like, huh, hmm, I like that tweet. I'm going to add this guy to my already stacked guest list. That's kind of how I felt about it. Oh, my God.

Let me read what I had to do with this, the PR person from ESPN. Hi, Allie. Her name's Allie. My name's Pat McAfee. Mr. Hasselbeck, I said. This is somebody from ESPN trying to get my friend, by the way, on the show. Yeah, good guy. I apologize for your interruption on this beautiful Sunday.

I was wondering if Matthew could come on my podcast this week. Would love to chat with him about luck in the NFL playoffs. He and I were teammates together. Would only want him to look good in this conversation, right? I would only want you to look good

because he's an incredible human. Let me know if this is possible and thank you for your time. She responds with, thanks for your text. When? So I tell her, Monday afternoon,

show comes out on Tuesday. Oh, she says. I've got several requests for Matt right now. So if there are any other date options, will you let me know? Wow. I go, no, no. No other date options. We'll try to fit you in there.

We'll try to fit you in Matt's schedule. We'll try. We'll try to fit you in that schedule there. We'll try. Matthew Hasenbeck's schedule is so packed. We'll try to fit you in that schedule there we'll try to matthew has a schedule is so packed we'll try to fit you this is just like when like a girl asks you out on a date you know or you ask a girl out on a date you know like hey how about friday like i don't know i'm kind of busy building up the anticipation man it's a little hard to get it's all right still love no good uh i can spin this

in two different directions all all on how I tell that story there. The way I chose to do it was to make you look like a terrible friend, but the way I could have done it is you have become a very big deal in football media, man. Everybody's seeking your opinion on things. You got a lot of requests in the media things. On ESPN, you

do very well. The show is good. How are you enjoying becoming a voice of the NFL? You know what? It is fun. I was nervous that leaving 18 years in the NFL, I'd be like, hey, I missed the team, missed the camaraderie, missed the locker room. But I feel like I have that on the shows that I'm on. Sunday morning, it's Randy Moss, Charles Woodson, Rex Ryan, Sam Ponder, Adam Schefter. Monday night football, we add Steve Young, Susie Colbert. And, you know, so I get that team flavor, I guess.

And then, obviously, the people behind the scenes, we've got people that help us with stats, people that help us with producing and directing. So it's very much a team thing, and I get to go on the road. Like this past week, I was at the colts texans game got to see a lot of old teammates coaches um you know i feel like i'm still in the game which i like a lot well and there's no chance of you getting blown up like getting crushed too that's got to feel pretty good on the body now you're just doing little mental workouts yeah no doubt

you know you go down to houston and you're're saying hello to J.J. Watt and Clowney and Merciless. It's a whole different deal. Last time I saw those guys, I took a helmet to the chin and was drinking Jamba Juice for two weeks. It's much better now. Speaking of being at the Texans-Colts game, this Colts team is hot. And I think even everybody always says, like the Giants, the year that Coughlin was almost fired and then they went on to win the Super Bowl with the Patriots. It doesn't matter what team is hot all the season. It matters who's hot in the playoffs. This Colts team feels like a very hot team. You had a one-on-one with luck. You got to be in the facility. What's going on with that Colts team feels like a very hot team. You had a one-on-one with Luck. You got to be in the facility. What's going on with that Colts team? You feel good about it? Yeah, there's a lot of stuff.

I mean, even this weekend, you know, the Colts were better than just about every team that played this weekend statistically. More first downs, more rushing first downs, more total yards, more rushing yards, which is like 200. Didn't give up a sack. Had only two penalties. Basically 10 yards of penalties for the entire game. Defense had a shutout for three quarters, really gave up seven points the whole day. So I think it's a complete team. You know, we talk a lot about Andrew Luck coming back,

but there's other guys on that team and coaches, first-time coaches, at coordinator positions that are doing a heck of a job. And then, oh, by the way, Andrew Luck is back. So I think, quite honestly, the Colts are probably the most complete team that you don't know about and really could surprise people, even this weekend, against a hot, really hot, explosive Kansas City Chiefs team. So you kind of rode the fence there at the end. You went on quite a run, and then you said, but also hot and explosive.

Well, here's the reason why. I mean, the Kansas City Chiefs have the MVP at quarterback. Patrick Mahomes is doing things that other people aren't doing. Even Drew Brees and Tom Brady and Jared Goff, great years, but they're not in the category that Patrick Mahomes is in offensively. You know, really, those are just the facts. Mahomes is in offensively. Really, those are just the facts.

I think the reason why you'll see some people in the national media pick the Colts is because they believe in Andrew Luck. They've probably studied some numbers like I just sort of regurgitated to you. And the other thing is Kansas City, they've got home field advantage and a loud crowd, all that stuff. But for whatever reason, they've had a hard time winning home playoff games. You've got to go all the way back to before Patrick Mahomes was born to find a day where the Kansas City Chiefs won a home playoff game. The last time they did it, Joe Montana was their quarterback.

So I think there's pressure. I remember as a quarterback when I was playing for Seattle, I think the Seahawks hadn't won a playoff game since 1984. And we were trying to do it in like 2005. And you just felt the pressure from all those, you know, the former players, the legends of your team, your organization. Like you feel the pressure of that. I don't know if Patrick Mahomes feels it because he seems like a cool cat,

but I know that there's other people in that organization that certainly feel it. So I think that's a great matchup. That'll be the first playoff game of the weekend. I think it's going to be a great one. Did you see the Pat Mahomes no-look video with Peter King thing? I did. I didn't listen to it, but I watched it. It was cool. I mean, I love watching Patrick Mahomes play. I love watching him throw. I'm a huge fan of no-look passes. They usually work. They don't always work, but they usually work.

See, that's my thing. Like, Michael Dixon's getting a lot of credit for dropkicking, right? Australian guy. There's a lot of NFL guys, myself included, that can really dropkick while I've never done it publicly, right? So it's just like the no-look pass thing, I think, for quarterbacks. Is that like a normal thing, or is Patrick Mahomes doing something that's very silly? No, so listen, you know, I have a no-look pass in my repertoire,

but I can't do it left, I can do it right. I mean, most guys will have it in their repertoire. Breaking it out in a game is a whole other thing next level. Brett Favre has them. You have these throws, kind of like a trick shot you have with your sand wedge. You have one. Does it come up? You get the opportunity to use it.

You have the courage to use it. He used it and hit a guy in stride. It was awesome. I've got a no-look pass where I can look at you, and then if I'm looking at 12 o'clock, the ball comes out at 2 or 3 o'clock. It's a pretty – I like that throw. The problem is it doesn't always work. I have another one that's not as good that I tried to use on Brian Urlacher one time.

I no-looked him, but he wasn't looking at me. So I hit him between the 5 and the 4. And after the game, he comes up to me. He's like, dude, what were you thinking on that interception? I'm like, dude, I no-looked you. He's like, wow, you thinking on that interception i'm like dude i no looked you he's like wow i missed it yeah i was no looking you too you gotta be careful doesn't always doesn't always pan out great uh analogy there because i have the phil mickelson flop everybody who's ever golfed with me knows it i bust that thing out and fucking it's uh next level that's a good point like you bust it out and fucking it's a next level thing. Right, but that's a good point. Like, you bust it out, like, when it's fun to bust it out.

But if you've got, like, a birdie opportunity and money's on the line, are you busting it out? Like, maybe you are, but then are you making it happen? Like, did it work? And so, like, I think that's what's impressive to me about the Patrick Mahomes no look. It wasn't like, hey, we're up by 21, this doesn't matter. It was a big game, huge moment. And he busted it out and it worked

perfectly. You have to go soon. It's our fault. We showed up late for this. We had to go through your publicists. But we showed up late for this because of the weight loss challenge. Who's going to win the Super Bowl? Patriots are going to win again? Is that what's going to happen? You know what? I live in Boston. There's a lot of hate for

the Patriots. A lot of like, we're only the two seed. You know, we barely got a bye. Wow. The expectations are so high for that team. But this whole time I'm saying to myself, like, they could be right back in this thing. You know, it could be the Patriots and the Saints or the Patriots and the Rams.

You know, who knows? It could be the Patriots and the Eagles again, the Nick Foles magic. I really think the Patriots, they struggled late. They got back on track with games against Buffalo and the Jets. Something happened where they just got away from James White. James White, the running back, is kind of my MVP of the Patriots this season. If Gronk can get healthy and they can not forget about James White, I think the Patriots have every opportunity to be back in the Super Bowl.

But they've got a tough Chargers team coming to town that's pretty complete themselves. And they have not lost a game away from L.A. this season. So, you know, that's what's so fun about the playoffs. You know, we get to find out anything can happen. Is this Phillip Rivers' last run here? That's why they're all balling behind him? No, I don't think it's his last

run, but he's a consistent player. He's a very consistent player. I think Anthony Lynn's done a really nice job in that running game. Ken Wisenhunt is calling the plays offensively. Gus Bradley, who's a former defensive coordinator, former head coach of a former defensive coordinator when I was in

Seattle, he's a real sound defensive coordinator. He's a real sound defensive coordinator. He's not a riverboat gambler like some of these guys, feast or famine. He's more mathematical. He's more calculated. He's less risky. He's a keep it in front of you guy. And so if you have the offense to go with that,

he's a guy that can be really successful, and he's shown that. Yeah, they had seven DBs on the field, I guess, against three safeties at linebacker. Good idea. Good idea. Keep up with the speed of Lamar Jackson. So now the Lamar Jackson offense is beat. I mean, that's what happens. Defense coordinators figure it out.

Bang, it's over. Well, you think about it, though. You know, it's a decent point. The quarterbacks that are now out of the playoffs, you've got Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson, Trubisky, Lamar, all great scramblers. You've got guys that are still in that had a bye week that are more pocket passers, playoffs. You got Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson, Trubisky, Lamar, all great scramblers. You got guys that are still in that had a bye week that are more pocket passers, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Jared Goff. Even you go back to the last two Super Bowls, you're talking about Foles

and Brady or Matt Ryan and Brady. Those guys, you know, they probably couldn't beat, you know, I don't know, my friends that I grew up with in a 40-yard dash. But those guys know how to play winning playoff football that gets you to a Super Bowl and wins you a Super Bowl. And so I think it's great if you can make SportsCenter top 10 and all that with plays outside the pocket, but consistently throwing the ball on time with rhythm from the pocket, accuracy, decision, you know, decision-making, timing, you know, those types of things.

That's how you win a Super Bowl. And, you know, obviously guys like Tom Brady approve that. It's crazy to hear that because you were such a mobile quarterback. You would think that you'd be going to bat for them. Thank you so much. Hey, like I told you, man, two for two on fire calls as a backup holder. He sent me that text, by the way. He sent me that. And your the way. He sent me that text.

And your follow-up text to that was, starting holders normally don't have a fire happen. You're the man. It's awesome watching you succeed. Good luck with all your other NFL conversation. I can't wait to meet up with you, hopefully, down at the Super Bowl. Hey, Pat, anytime my publicist says I can, I'm happy to come on in. Hang up on him, please.

He's a good dude, man. He's a really good dude. I'm being serious when I say he's a good dude. His dad, he was like a ball boy for the Patriots when he was a kid because his dad used to be in the Patriots organization somehow, some way. He was a good guy in our locker room, man. When he came way. He was a good guy in our locker room, man. When he came in, he was a good guy in our locker room. He helped out a lot.

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Friend of the show, Los Angeles Charger. Then he was a bill for a little bit, Sean Merriman. Hey. What's up, brother? I have a question. Your nickname is Lights Out. Do people call you Lights Out that are friends with you, or do they call you Sean, Mr. Merriman? What do people call you? Mostly everybody

call me Lights. It's funny. I haven't heard Sean in a very long time, or when I go back home with my family. Most people call me Sean, but everybody else calls me Light. It's funny. I haven't heard Sean in like a very long time. Or when I go back home with my family. Most people call me Sean, but everybody else calls me Light. Okay, so you're walking around and people are like, Yo, Lights, Lights, Lights. That's an incredible nickname. People that I've never met before in my life, and they call me Light.

I don't know. They just decided that was going to be it. Everybody's lazy. I mean, Lights Out is two syllables. We can get that thing down to one. That's the way it's been going. Let's talk about playoff football. Let's talk about the Chargers.

Phillip Rivers seems to be playing his best football yet. He might have looked the fastest I've ever seen him on that first down run. This Chargers team seems to be legit. Nobody has a clue about anything about them. How are they faring? Why are they so good, Sean? They're good because they're balanced. You know, Pat, if you look at the teams

that I played on back in the mid-2000s, and you've got L.T. and Damian Thompson in the backfield, you've got Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson, you've got so many all-stars on the team. We had great players. But with this team, this current team, they're the most balanced team in the NFL. You know, as a former defensive player, I'm going into this game, I'm like, okay, what are their tendencies?

You've got a wide receiver lining up wide, a running back five yards off the ball. They have no tendencies. They can toss the ball to three or four different guys in the offense at any given time. So when you can't game plan for them, they're just tough to beat. That's what's been key for them all year. They've been incredible on the road. I've been saying it's because they didn't really have a home field advantage at the beginning of the year because L.A. was the Rams team. Do you think L.A. is coming around on the Chargers?

Yeah, it's been that way. I mean, if you think about it, you know, there's a lot of people that are just not happy with them making a move from San Diego, right? So no matter if they want to send or not, you've got people saying, you know what, no matter what, I'm not going to support him. Then you got people that want to send, like in the gray area. They're saying, you know, it's not that bad, but I don't know if I want to go up to L.A. I don't want to buy still want to still support it.

But you started with some games and now you got people at the games like I went out to. I mean, I've been at all the games, but that Ravens game that they had was phenomenal. That was the most pumped I've seen the stadium the entire year, actually since they moved the sub hub. And it started to make that conversion, man, where people are like, you know what, this is my team, they're playing well, I'm going to go support them. So that's where they're at with it right now.

Phillip Rivers, Tom Brady, not great history. Is there any way that Phil can beat the New England Patriots and Tom Brady? Yes, absolutely. And this is the year for him to do it. And, you know, I don't want anybody to confuse the fact that I'm being a homer. I mean, I've been saying that the Chargers were going to be this team

since the preseason. You know, there's just the players. You look around the field and what they have. It's hard for them not to be playing the way they're playing right now, especially after having nine games, one of nine games last year in a row. So I expected this. So it's not taking away anything from Tom Brady and Bill Belichick

and the greatness they've created over there with that team. On the other hand, they are not the same team that they once were. They're just not. They've found ways to win football games because of the greatness just not. They found ways to win football games because of the greatness of coaching. They found ways to put players there. Josh Boyd played well earlier for the year. Now he's suspended. He's not playing. So now

you're looking at what does this team have that you really got to go out and be fearful of. You got a great coach. You got a great quarterback. You got some players that can make some plays. Not the dominance that they were in the past. So it's going to be a hard-fought game because Tom Brady's going to go out and

do his thing. But they're not as dominant as they once were. So Sean Merriman, big-time name in the NFL's history. Lights out. They call him Lights. Legend in the NFL realm says that this weekend,

whenever the Chargers travel to New England, that the Patriots dynasty is dead. That's what you're saying, Sean? Absolutely. Oh! Oh! Dead! But it's not, you know, this is what you get.

You got a bunch of Patriots fans that say, you know what, this guy's a homer, homer. No, no, I'm not being a homer. It's just if you look at how they're stacked across the board, right? I mean, the Ravens, they got the best defense in the National Football League. You knew that game was going to be tight. They, you know, they're good across the board. It was a great matchup defensively. And once the Chargers figured out a way to punch the ball in the end zone

after those three or four field goals, then I knew the game was possibly over then. You know, New England can put up points, and they're great at home. They're great at Foxborough. And I've lost the AFC Championship game there in Foxborough. It is tough as hell to play there. You know, the atmosphere is going to be aggressive. It's a hard place to go out and play. They've got great fans. It's going to get loud and rowdy there. The atmosphere is going to be aggressive. It's a hard place to go out

and play. They've got great fans. It's a terrible place to play. But this year, they don't have the same team. They don't have the same team as they had in the past.

Sean Merriman just said what a lot of people have been saying this year, but Sean Merriman's voice carries some weight because he's an ex-player. He's lost in the AFC Championship there. I have also been a part of a team that has lost in Foxborough. I got pounded. Oh, no, easy. I was a part of a team that got pounded by Tom Brady often there for a while.

The Dynasty is one of the most impressive things in the history of the sport. True story. But boy, this Chargers team looks tough to beat. Let's move across the board there a little bit. Chiefs, Colts, what else are you looking for? Rams. You like the Rams. Do you think they're going to continue to go? Is there a natural beef because you're both trying to claim the city? Do the Rams hate the Chargers and vice versa? And also, I think there's a scenario where both AFC and NFC championships games could be hosted in LA. How awesome would that be for Los Angeles?

Yo, Pat, it's another thing that I said before the season. I said it on the show, right? And the room got silent as a mouse. You can hear a mouse piss on a sponge, how quiet it got in there. Everybody looked at me crazy, right? And I said, there could be two LA teams playing against each other in the Super Bowl. And people looked at me like I was completely out of my mind.

Well, I'm not looking so crazy now. And the only reason why I'm saying this is because it's the Chargers' time for them to turn over the lead. And it's the Chargers' time because of the team that they built, right? We talked about the balance and who they have on both sides of the ball. that they built. We talked about the balance and who they have on both sides of the ball. I mean, that's the most sacks they've had against the Ravens in team history in the playoff, or since, I think, 92 or something or whatever it was. Joe Flacco would have got crushed, by the way.

If people were calling for Joe Flacco, he would have got murdered in there with that D-line the way they were playing. If Joe Flacco got in there, he would have been a standing dummy, punching bag, that would have just got sacked over and over again because he can't move. Towards the end of the game, Lamar Jackson made some plays with his leg that they wouldn't even have had a shot to come back if Joe Flacco was there. He made some plays with his leg and found a way to throw the ball down the field.

Joe Flacco is not capable of doing that. That's just not his game. Okay, so you like the Chargers, you like the Rams. Let's talk about what you're doing off the field. Lights Out Brand, you're a businessman. Are you sitting in boardrooms and shit? What do you got going on? Yeah, man, we got lightsoutbrand.com.

We also will be in Tilly's, you know, just most parts of the country next week. So you can go to Tilly's and ask for Lights Out Brand as well. So we'll be in there cranking. Hey, hold on. You got picked up by a store? Yeah. Yeah, we're in Tilly's, man. I mean, that's our main partner right now.

They got 230 stores. We're cranking in there. I've seen Tilly's. Yeah. It's like PacSun's replacement, right? Everybody started going to Tilly's instead? All the malls. Hey, when you go in the Shark Tank there and you say, hey, yeah, I just got into 30 Tilly's,

I think people, that's a great business move by you. Yeah, you know, it's cool, man, because I had a nickname since I was 16, right? I mean, people called me Lighthouse when I was 16. I found a way to really brand it and make active wear and cool clothes. Like, that was a part of what I always wanted to do, just to work out like hell because I'm still a muscle head. I'm still a meat head. But I also make clothes just feel comfortable that people can wear, man.

That's just always been my thing. Congratulations on that. 50% off right now this entire week with the promo code PLAYOFFS, I believe, lightsoutbrand.com. You also were almost getting into bare-knuckle fighting, I think. Maybe that was just all hype.

I don't know. You signed a contract and then it disappeared. Where are you when it comes to professional fighting? And why? And why? That can still happen, man. But, you know, look out for the big news in the last couple months. I've been talking about it for a year.

There will be a – I will own part of the MMA league coming up here in the next few months that will announce. I've been working on it for a little over a year. And there's a big possibility that I could fight there also. So we're trying to work that out. This way, I don't have to worry about nobody screwing around my contract because I'll be doing my own contract. And if I want to go fight, then I'll

fight. That's Vince McMahon. Very Vince McMahon like of you. Why do you want to fight, man? You played in the NFL for a long time. You hit a lot of people. You're in Tillys now. You're a businessman. Why do you want to fight? Why do you want a human cockfight out there?

You know more than anybody, right? We're competitive as hell, right? I mean, we got to stay with it. I mean, you've been wrestling and doing different stuff, too, which I kind of messed around with the WWE and almost signed a contract there a few years ago. I just like staying active. For me, I go and spar a couple days a week anyway.

I'm going to the gym a couple hours a day anyway. It's a lifestyle that you live, so you just have to stay in tune with it. True, I do that all the time, man. It's my fucking lifestyle, too. I spar about three, four times a week. Me and Todd get the gloves out and start hammering. Will you be good? Like when you fight, will you be good or are you going to get your ass kicked?

If you're the boss, you can feed yourself somebody easy. Get you a small little white guy in there. Look, man, I wouldn't show my face if I got my ass beat. You know, for me, that's just not who I am, right? I mean, the guys who I spar when I train with are, they're killers, right? I mean, these guys are beasts and a lot better than me. So, you know, I gotta, I gotta go in there and take my lumps and bruises as I'm, you know, picking up and just learning the craft.

First and foremost, I've been doing it for almost 13 years just to stay in shape during the off season. But when I was going to go fight, it was the first time I'd actually been in a real-life training or fight camp for three months. And, you know, so Manny Pacquiao's coach, Justin Fortune, was who I was training with, and also Unbreakable Jim out here in L.A., back and forth. So I had, you know, for me, I was part of Real Killers, so I took my loves and bruises early. Jesus. So you're in Team Pacquiao's camp? How'd that happen?

Yeah, so I mean, Justin Fortune, who's his coach, and he's still getting trained by Freddie Roach, but Justin Fortune, who's here in LA, when I was going to do the bare-knuckle boxing, and mind you, the bare-knuckle boxing was just stand-up. There was no take to the ground, no knees, no elbows. So that was going to go down. Nine days before

it happened, they decided to cut. They wanted me to renegotiate my contract by 50%, and I told them to go to hell. Hey, yeah. Yeah, we don't fuck around. We ain't getting no cage or ring with no gloves for that. 50%? Get the hell out of here. No, no, it just wasn't what happened.

It was a crappy way to come into the sport because I've been around the game for a long time. It's a crappy way to come into the sport because I've been around the game for a long time. But I will be announcing a MMA league that I plan on taking over. I've been working on it for the last year and a half. So that's going to be big. Good for you. Good for you, Sean. All right, before you get out of here, I have some co-hosts here.

You heard them at the beginning. They were so intrigued and interested by Sean Merriman calling in. They all have a question for you. Is it okay if we go around the room? Because the room would like to know. Yeah, let's do it. Okay. Up first is a former state police detective of 21 years, Todd McComas. Sean,

hey, I'm a big MMA fan, so I want to know who's the most well-known fighter that you've trained with, that you've sparred with? Probably Tito. Titoo ortiz we got in there but when i when i first started i was uh jay i was jay glaze's first nfl guy to kind of transition over to mma uh back in like 2005 so i was training with randy couture and uh chocolate day i've trained with tito ortiz uh ty woodley we you We spent a few off-seasons together. So, yeah, I've been around these guys, man, for a long time.

Nice. So you would describe yourself as a well-rounded guy, although those guys are very well-rounded. They have a good takedown offense, but they bang on their feet. Yeah, man. I mean, you know, I'm used to tackling people, so if I get myself in trouble, I can get your ass on the ground. Nice.

I like to hear ass on the ground. Do the big Brock Lesnar bear tackle. Just hold him down and beat up their face. That's an incredible thing. This next guy is from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He's got a good beard. He's down 15, nope, 13 pounds in the last six days. Diggs. Sean, is

Phillip Rivers allergic to latex, or he's just an irresponsible human? Good question. A lot of kids, Sean. Dude, honestly, I think he's going for his own football. That's the only thing I can think of. He just needs a couple more. He might even have one or two coming off the bench by the time he's done. I don't know.

I don't know, man. It's incredible. But when you're playing football that long and you've made the money he has, you have it have it as long as you want to i guess he doesn't swear either no cusses they say no cuss words he'll say what gracious pete's gracious to pete yeah that's god damn he's gracious to pete wow that's an interesting go i don't understand he talks shit though too i enjoy i like phil rivers a lot oh yeah yeah but yeah but but this is the thing about philip how much shit can you really talk when you don't curse? I know.

Right? Like, you know, he's – what about Phillip? Phillip is animated, right? Phillip is animated, and you're just not used to seeing quarterbacks talk back to you. Right? If you're on his team, you love it. Like, when he went to NC State and I was playing him against – when I was at University of Maryland, we played against each other.

I didn't like Phillip a whole lot because I was like I would hit him, and you would see him drawing back and saying something back to the guy that was laying on top of him. And I'm like, this guy's out of control. He's insane. But it's not like he's saying anything bad or negative. He's not saying, you know, F you, you suck. He'll be tapping you in the head and tell you to go hit. And you're just not used to a quarterback saying that.

DeAndre Luck move. Not a bad play. Next question is coming from an Italian guy named Nick. Nick, what do you got? Sean, you spent a lot of time in San Diego, one of the most beautiful, perfect places, the climate, the temperature, amazing, incredible. And at the end of your career,

you spent a little bit of time in Buffalo. Can you please tell us something good about Buffalo? I'm not saying it's short, Buffalo. Yeah, that was. I'm putting Sean on a platform here to enlighten us all and help out the city of Buffalo. I'm not saying it's short, Buffalo. I'm putting Sean on a platform here to enlighten us all and help out the city of Buffalo. Give us a glowing endorsement.

The people and food is amazing. Top notch. The thing is with Buffalo is you feel like everybody's a second or third cousin. They just walk on the street and they're just like, hey, what's up? They knew you for 10, 15 years. And it's different from being on the West Coast because everybody whips out their phone and they want to catch you on TMZ.

They want to catch you doing something you're not supposed to be doing. In Buffalo, they'll walk up to you like they've known you for 15 years. Because that's just kind of what city it is. And I got a few places like Doves and Anchor Barn and really good steak houses that I used to love going to in Buffalo. So the people on food are great. Ever heard of it, Nick? I've heard of it. Unbelievable. Shout out Buffalo. Can't wait to check it out next time I go.

Shout out Buffalo, by the way. You ever been caught on TMZ saying something terrible? Stupid? No, not really, man. I'm always, you know, I'm not a rookie at it, so I've never said anything too crazy. Actually, sometimes just regular stuff that come'm not a rookie at it, so I'm never saying anything too crazy. Actually, sometimes just regular stuff that comes out of my mouth is crazy. But maybe if you catch a guy walking out of the club after a few drinks,

you're more willing to say something that you wouldn't have if you didn't have those few drinks. But most of the time, no, man. I'm pretty cool about it. Jeff Gorman worked in the NFL for a decade. Now he's a five-toe player dummy here. Jeffrey, you got a question? I do. Road rage.

Is it something that you deal with in your post-football life? And if you do have road rage, have you ever just rolled down the window, somebody gets a glimpse of you and goes, oh, shit. Great question. No, no. You know, I had a few instances like when I was younger, right? And a couple people cut me off. I had a guy that kind of walked up to the car and tapped on a glass and tried to open my door.

Well, I opened it for him and I stood out, and he got back in his car and drove off. Well, why is there not an internet video of that? That video would have crushed. Guy goes to fight Sean Merriman, sees Sean Merriman, runs from Sean Merriman. That would have crushed guy goes to fight sean merriman sees sean merriman runs from sean merriman that would have been awesome tmz would have loved that one next guy's name is zito jose perez actually mr uh mr out uh you kind of talked about uh your uh story how you became lights out uh for that whole time so you what is it you knocked out three people in the first half, and the last half you

knocked out one person? You're doing great. Who was the first person to call you lights out after that game? What's that? Who was the first person to call you lights out? How did it become? So it's about 20 students that come run up to me after the game, and they couldn't believe it.

They said, oh man, you knocked those guys' lights out. And then I kind of just played it off like everything was cool, like it was supposed to it. They said, oh, man, you knocked those guys' lights out. I kind of just played it off like everything was cool, like it was supposed to happen. I said, well, just call me lights out. It stuck with me since my sophomore year. I wasn't planning on it. They just came up to me and said, man, you knocked those guys' lights out. I said, yeah, well, call me lights out.

It stuck with me all the way through even now. Anybody ever go with L-O there? What's that? L-O.. Anybody ever go with L-O there? What's that? L-O? Yeah, I get called L-O sometime too, yeah. I assume that's where I'd probably head. Mr. Arnold. This guy's from Boston.

He hates everything you said about the Patriots earlier. Connors is his name. Yeah, Lights. I used to be a huge fan. Now I'm not. You played with Phillip rivers many children ago when he first came into the league was he uh sort of like a father figure leader right away or did it take him some time to kind of settle into that head qb position um what tom brady is old so he's

the most father figure i've ever had um but you know philip you you know, Phillip is just one of the guys. He's a natural born leader, right? He's a competitor. This guy, he's never a negative thing about him. He finds a positive on every single thing. He's always competitive. So that was the first thing I noticed about him

from day one. He wanted to kill a kicker. He's animated. He wears his heart on his face. Hey, you guys found one. The Money Badger, by the way. You guys got to love him in Chargers Nation. Oh, man.

I'm going to send him some free lights out gear. He's about to get all free gear from me forever. You know, that guy, he's just clutch, man. His body language is different. You just feel a lot better with him going up to make a big kick and make things happen. The whole situation is different with the team. They didn't have that in the past.

Money Badger is knocking balls through, too. He does have that swag. One to the U, that helps. Next guy is from Iowa, Ty Schmidt. Hey, Lights, just curious, of all the teams left in the playoffs, are there a couple guys that you prefer watching, or are there any guys that kind of remind you of you when you

used to play? You know, it's different now, man. If anybody, I would say Khalil Mack, because he still has this athleticism plus the brute side of him that can go through you, too. He can run around you or go through you. He can also drop the coverage or drop back if he needs to.

So probably him. You know, he's just so damn dominant that he can take over a game. The rest of the guys are either really good pass rushers or they can play the run really good, but it's not a combination as much anymore. This last guy's a 12-year-old, Evan Foxey. Yeah, Sean, you had one of the best sack celebrations of all time.

All time! So I'm just curious, are there any celebrations in any sport that you like out there right now? No, because everybody copycats a little bit now, man. It's like, you know, nobody's really original. You got some guys that just do whatever the latest

dance is, right? I mean, whatever the latest dance is, they do. And for me, I just really couldn't see myself doing that and being part of the crowd of everyone else. You know, think about like Jared Allen when he played. Jared Allen had the thing with the rodeo. Yeah, yeah. Hog tie. The hog tie.

You had some guys. Joey Porter had that big kick. After he got his sack, he wouldn't go kick. So there was always some kind of original play there. It's not really that original like it used to be. Is that shots fired across the entire NFL from lights out? They need to pick up their celly game? Is that what you're saying?

Is that shots fired across the entire NFL from lights out? No, I mean, you could call it what you want. I mean, it's not as original as it once was, man. All right, have an incredible rest of the playoffs here. Good luck with all your businesses. LightsOutBrand.com, 50% off right now. Good for you, man. You're doing great shit over there.

I hope you keep it going, and thank you so much for joining us. Thanks, brother. Appreciate y'all, man. Have an easy one. Hey, by the way, when you fight, when you fight, I would like a heads up. I'd like to be in the front row for that. I would enjoy just seeing the front row there to see how

it all goes. All right, cool, man. I'll make it happen. Let's do it. Well, he owns the fighting company. Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen. Mr. Lights Out Sean Barry. That was awesome. The wild card weekend was a lot of wild

some part. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it a lot. We talked off air a little bit. I enjoyed the setup where it's like Friday night I had Dateline. Just punch that microphone, will you, Gorms? Sorry. You were saying? Friday, by the way, joining me at Tom McCormick, at Diggs, at Nick Morado,

at Hey Gorman, at Viva Lozito, at Boston Connor, try to spell it, at Evan Foxey, at Ty Schmidt. And Friday night I watch The Dateline. It's my normal go-to on the weekend. Friday nights they're in a new season, too, so they've got new episodes. Nice kickstart. New mysteries. Do you dovr just

in case you miss it oh yeah yeah yeah i got a dvr also like to watch it later after it starts so i can skip the commercials get right to it so i netflix dateline by starting it an hour later so i can just binge right through it you know what i mean i netflix that thing yeah 45 minutes not an hour great episode friday night. Kicked off a great weekend. Great episode. Love scandal, triangle, lies, murder, dateline class. Any sex? There was a lot of sex. A wife was actually cooking meals

for her husband and his mistress. Nice. That's a nice deal that guy had. That's kind of nice. That guy went on to murder somebody. I thought it was the mistress. Not great. That guy went on to murder. Probably the wife's fault. That's why great. Yeah, yeah. That guy went on to murder. Probably the wife's fault.

No, that's why she was cooking. She's like, I know what happens. Did he murder the mistress or the wife? No, no. Mistress, ex-boyfriend. Ooh, so he's getting back for the mistress. Yeah, yeah. What?

Yeah, yeah. It was wild. And they all worked at the same place. What location was this? It was like an airline hangar thing. They all worked. It was crazy. Was it Keith Morrison or no?

Just regular guy. It was the guy, the other guy, the Sudja something. They all worked. It was crazy. Was it Keith Morrison or no, just regular guy? It was the guy, the other guy, the Saja something. Dark hair guy. Who? Zambida? Ashwabah.

I don't think those are real names. Ashwabah. Ashwabah. Oh, the village of... It wasn't in there. Classic reminder, don't shit where you eat.

Pussy. Yes. Dateline really scares the shit out of me because the people that are doing the murderings are not people you expect. Regular people. But Dateline really scares the shit out of me because the people that are doing the murderings are not people you expect. Regular people. But Dateline tries the tricky.

They introduce new characters and I'm just trying to solve it at all times. As soon as they introduce somebody on a left field, you're like, oh, wait a, why are they even, why is the second cousin being introduced? It's like, this guy had to kill him. And the prison uniform too. You gotta watch that. Is he doing this interview from prison?

Because they interview. Is he in his living room? They interview them, and they sit down, and they distort the lights in the background, and they put a little makeup on, and they put a shirt on them, and you never know if they're in jail or not. And then once you start solving it, you're like, oh, that person's in jail. And then you start looking in the back, and you're like, yep, there's the brick wall right there.

I fucking knew it. Do they rip it all off at the end? Surprise. Yeah, yeah. He's in jail. They turn the lights on And normally it's a handshake Or they get walked out

It is Dateline's a great show I want it to be known that Sam has definitely turned me on to the Dateline I love it But it kicked off a great weekend I wake up the next day Do a little brunchy brunch

A little workout Hang out And then once the afternoon happens 4.30ish It's like boom This is perfect The rest of the night's covered here It really is The rest of the night is covered here. The rest of the night is covered.

That first game, those Indianapolis Colts down there in Houston. How good did they look? They look really good. How bad did Houston look? They look really bad. They were shit. That was a bad... We've been saying this since the beginning. We had the guy that was

on The Bachelorette. The guy that was on The Bachelorette was an intern for us that was on The Bachelorette, was an intern for us, works at Pro Football Focus. Before the season started, we talked to him, and he said, this is... Oh, boy. I don't know why I have a 442 alarm. You got to eat?

That is actually my eating bone. That's the most Zito move of all time. At least it was an unbelievable alarm song. It was. Pretty good. Good job. Pro football focus guy, bachelorette guy, Mike. Good guy.

Great guy. He said, going into the season, that Houston had legitimately, statistically, the worst offensive line in the history of tracking people's talent. He was not wrong. He hit the fucking nail on the head. After he said that, Deshaun Watson gets sacked like 63 times or something. He pressured every single pass.

So is Bill O'Brien done, Dunner? All he does is win the AFC South. I've been shitting on the Ravens for our high school offense. Apparently, everyone's saying that the Houston Texans offense is even simpler than theirs. They did a pregame interview with Bill O'Brien and Deshaun Watson, and they were asking, like, Deshaun's like, yeah, I'm more of the kind of the cool, under-pressure guy,

and Bill O'Brien's like, I'm Irish, man. I got a temper. And they show clips of him yelling at Deshaun, like, line him up, Deshaun, line him up. I wonder how it is, because they've had success in the AFC South. For sure they have. I bet it's I wonder how it is because they've had success in the AFC South. Yeah, for sure they have. I bet it's a little in between because, I mean, he's brought the pieces to Houston.

They have a good quarterback, good wide receiver, DeAndre Hopkins. What do you have? 115 catches, no drops. It's just the offensive lines all the time. Yeah, but, dude, the next, what, five, ten years? Those secondaries trash, too. Well, the next five to ten years, though, you're running into the Colts,

which it seems to be are building a team that are unstoppable right now. They are hot. You never talk about whether or not a team, like the first week of the season, obviously, some teams surprise people. A lot of people do. The Chiefs came out flying, and they've continued to do well. The Colts stumbled heavily early, and everybody wrote them off. It was easy to do so.

Oh, yeah. One in five, there's only one team in the history of the game that's ever made it to the playoffs at that record. Then somehow, someway, that team gets so hot, and they are now the hot. Anybody can say whatever they want, I guess because the Rams haven't played or the Chiefs haven't played. They are by far the hottest team in professional sports right now.

By far the hottest team. Well, they control both sides of the line of scrimmage. That's why they're so good, too. It's awesome to watch that happen. I mean, watching, and T.Y. Hilton, by the way, showing up in a clown mask, bro. That was awesome. I've said this before.

T.Y., when he gets, like, pissed off at somebody, we had a practice squad DB that, like, said something to him. And it was the first time i watched it because he was a very quiet guy in the corner he was under reggie wayne he wasn't chip on his shoulder little guy but dog on the field wouldn't then he's play some dice game loosen up a little bit but normally just very quiet goes to work every day works his ass off just because like that's what reggie did marv did. That's just kind of how it works, right? And then all of a sudden this one DB said something to him

in practice. Just said, I forget what it was. And I watched T.Y. Hilton for the next probably 45 minutes of practice just scorch this dude. Just absolutely, this guy he might have quit football. The kid might have quit football. Just scorch him all

because the guy talked shit to him. Right? Like, T.Y., it just begins. Where there's people who have, like, a chip on the shoulder, they're just looking for something. They're just looking for something to get them going. And when that Joseph dude, old guy, calls him a clown or whatever, and then T.Y. answered with a clown mask,

I knew he was going to do whatever the fuck he wanted. I was like, this Joseph guy has no clue what he just fucking did. I don't think he knows that. And then early, he gets the rock, dominate, dominate, and then they start blowing him out, and they don't feed him as much. But he could have had 400 yards. If that was a close game, I think T.Y. Hilton goes for 400 yards. They started blowing him out, too, because they went all on Hilton.

Because right away, Hilton was a factor, so then that's why Inman did so well on the other side. It's like, you fucking jokers! Hey, how funny is it now, clown? God damn it! We got four guys covered on fucking down. Jesus! I'm Irish, sorry.

That was an awesome game for the Colts. How about Jim Marissa? Can we fast forward to locker room? Your boys, your boy Jim. He's a rainmaker. I'd like to address that if I can because people are hitting me up online about this. Gorman, by the way, tight with

Ursae. I mean, for a long time, friends with Ursae. He was with Ursae for a long time. He's the reason why I was introduced to Ursae, the whole thing. Hey, he's a rainmaker, bro. Here's what he's saying. Just put yourself in his position, which we can't. We don't know what it's like to be a billionaire. It's just a whole different mind thought.

But that aside. Okay. That aside. I don't know how. He has been waiting a while for this team. One in five, they start pissed off, throwing shit in the suite during the game. Mad, mad. Mad, all right?

Then a little streak happens. Then Jacksonville happens. What the flip? Six, nothing. Then it comes out. Boom, boom, boom. Win, win, win. First playoff game.

Just happier than a pig in slop. And he says, boys, I'm going to be the one raining Six, nothing. Then it comes out. Boom, boom, boom. Win, win, win. First playoff game. Just happier than a pig in slop. And he says, boys, I'm going to be the one raining on your parade. I think we can be a better football team than what we showed today. Is that really how he said it, though? Well, he didn't say it. You've got to understand, he doesn't say it the way that – You've got the interpreter right here. He's breaking it down for you.

I'm going to rain on the parade a little bit. We can be better than what we showed today. Dominant performance, but I want to be that guy that's pushing you through these playoffs to get great. By the way, I don't disagree. They should have scored two more touchdowns the second half. I mean, there's no excuse for not scoring in the second half. And that was disappointing to me.

I'm like, now they're getting conservative in their play call and they're just trying to hang on instead of just stepping on the throw. That was the first sense of that all season, really. it was yes a little bit and it cost us early a little and i was like i want you i would finally want to see the colts get somebody down and step on their fucking throat yeah it'd be nice for the fans yes yeah and also by the way probably the punter as well if i had to guess we were just thinking that too because when you're playing on the colts cardiac colts is a real thing that's been something that is indianapolis no every game even if you're down if the colts are down a bunch at the beginning by the end of this there's going to be a moment

where you're like oh fuck what's going to happen right what i got to live that for like six years it's wild man it's just like every game no matter how much you're ahead or how far behind you're like okay in the fourth quarter, this is probably going to be a fucking, this is going to be a grinded out game here. And it happens on a regular basis. But it seems that it could happen everywhere else too. I think we've seen a lot of comebacks start happening in the NFL,

strictly because the offenses are so fast and high scoring. With that being said, the Ravens had that at a one score game by the end of that fucking thing. We were watching that game at the office, and it was like, somehow, this has become a one-score game out of nowhere. Lamar Jackson drives them down the field there instead of that fumble, drives them down the field and scores. What a completely different conversation is happening today as opposed to then. The NFL is good. Can we talk about them blowing the play dead on a couple of those plays?

Why are they doing that? They've been doing that all year. But yeah, is there a reason for it? It happened in the Browns game, too. It's fucking things up. Are you talking about the Bears one? Or are you talking about the... Yeah, but it also happened in the Ravens game, right?

Yeah. Did it? Yeah. Yeah, they caught a touchdown instead of the fumble. The fumble had right? Yeah. Did it? Yeah. Yeah, they caught it at a touchdown and then it... Instead of the fumble. The fumble had to go line. His arm was down. The guy took it back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had...

The Ravens... By the way, we'll talk about that Chicago thing. The overturn, the review. Have to talk about that, for sure. But also Parkey. That's on the Chargers, though, for the comeback. It is, 100%. 100%.

But people were saying put Flacco in. That Chargers defense seems to be damn good, man. Lamar Jackson fumbled four times and threw an interception. I'd have still thrown Flacco in there. I know you guys are going to tee off on me. They'd have been all over. Dude, he wakes up to throw the ball. Lamar Jackson wakes up to run the ball.

At the same time, though, Joey Bosa or Ingram didn't really have a chance to pin their ears back and just go because it was Lamar. Yeah, he had a drop back quarterback. But wouldn't it be a different scheme, too? He's probably getting rid of the ball real quick. I don't know. I think Harbaugh. What are you talking about?

Joe Flacco? It could have gotten worse. He did come back. He was 3 of 10 for 25 yards. What I'm saying is it became a one-score game. Somehow, the Ravens played terrible. I think they had negative pass yards in the first half, or they were close to having negative pass yards in the first half,

or maybe in the whole fucking game if it wasn't for that deep ball. But they were somehow in that game and i can't help but just think about like if the ravens win that game and philip rivers loses that game how awesome philip rivers would have been just to watch like what he would have done he would have fucking freaked out they were dominating over there and then they make it a game then they make it a game tucker missed a kick. Cook shanked one. It was beautiful. I don't know. It was very interesting to me as well. You got pancake too bad?

Well, that's the issue is everybody's wondering why he's missing kicks. I've never seen a person in the history of the NFL get pancaked as bad as he did and then go and make a kick. Never seen anybody do it. And Tucker almost did that. We called the Ravens offense.

It was going to get figured out. They did seven DBs or whatever. We talked to Sean Merriman here in a little bit, and Hasselbeck about a good insight there. That Chicago Bears game, man. Cody Parkey, here's the deal. So I have been the topic or target of this type of situation. It was in the first quarter of a game, not at the end of the game.

So I was kind of confused why I was getting so much, but I could definitely see being the scapegoat kind of situation, right? 27 death threats. I also missed an overtime kick off the left upright in Colorado. So almost the exact same situation as Cody Parkey. Cody Parkey probably feels this today. Should have made the kick. Should have definitely made the kick.

He knows that. That block, though, is a real thing. Because all of his misses, all of his misses this year, damn near every single one of them, is literally four inches away from being a fucking great year. He's four inches away on all these separate occasions of being a great year. And if he makes that kick last night, by the way, he's four inches away on all these separate occasions of being a great year and if he makes that kick last night by the way he's a hero in chicago he's a fucking hero in

chicago he is if doug peterson doesn't ice him there great call by doug peterson great call by doug peterson doesn't ice him there he makes that kick by the way same pressure on cody parky that first kick all the people that are like choke job choke job or whatever are saying there he makes that kick by the way same pressure on cody parky that first kick all the people that are like choke job choke job or whatever are saying him he made that first kick that had the same amount in his head in his head you're gonna think that's the same amount of pressure everything is there right so he's got it he's got it but if you get a deflection on a ball just like that and it's dancing with that left upright already you just gotta hope at some point that ball moves four inches in for you.

You know, after an entire year, six uprights, they're saying, you think at some point, especially he did the thank God thing up there after the miss, which a lot of people were commending him for, which is cool, by the way. If you're a religious person, you keep your faith in good times and bad times. But you would think he might have been asking, like, hey, man, one fucking time. You know, what if he said that? Like, just give me four inches.

And a lot of people were saying, should he have not gotten it up faster or whatever? I mean, that was an incredible push by the D-line. The goal for blocking a field goal is drive, so you're trying to drive the offensive lineman back three yards, and then you're trying to get as high as possible because there's a trajectory there, right? They got a good drive on that, and that was a good thing.

But still, you would just hope if you're Cody Parkey that the football gods just one time would just give you a kiss in. They gave him a kiss, kiss, out. It's like Happy Gilmore when he goes to that putt-putt thing and he puts it in and the clown spits it out. Cody Parkey had to feel, and he did, by the way. He said, I feel terrible. This is the worst.

But at some point, it's like, yo, Cody, I feel bad for the guy. Because you would just think at some point, like if you're hitting your driver, you're hitting your driver, you would think like, hey, if I get 10 swings at this, one of them is going to straighten out for me exactly how i want it same thing for him four inches away from an incredible season maybe maybe potential like it's just he got unlucky he got incredibly and i sent him a dm i sent him a dm you're back cody park he i don't think he checked twitter so i thought about that after i sent the dm by the way i was like here's no fucking way he's hopping on there.

45,000 booing him as he's running to the locker room. I know. Kick was blocked, which definitely changes the trajectory. And if you see the way it hits the guy's hand, it definitely moved to his left, too. So it probably skips in, right? Which,

by the way, after you watch film, which Cody Parkey definitely is doing today. He's watching film on that. Everybody's film on that he's watching that he just sees and he's like how unlucky am i and that's why i sent him a dm i was like hey man incredibly unlucky year for you i don't because there's no way a kicker like a ball that is hitting an upright versus a ball that is inside like a inch or so a kicker can't tell the difference between that, right? I mean, Tucker splits them right down the middle normally when he's kicking a lot of kickers. Vinatieri gets them in there.

But there's a lot of guys that, hey, if that thing gets through, we're happy, and he's just four fucking inches. I felt so bad. My video was an actual live reaction too. That was real heartbreak for that kid. He was sleeping on my couch a couple years ago. Sleeping on my couch a couple years ago. It's terrible, but he shouldn't eat all that blame. I understand it's the last

thing, but that is the last resort. He's out there for the last resort. But as a kicker punter, that's your job too. A wide receiver's job is to catch a ball in the end zone in the last second if you need it. A running back's job is to punch it in. That's his job

to make that kick. He knows that too, by the way. He very much knows that too. The further brand brotherhood is strong though. I don't know if you need it. Running back's job is to punch it in. That's his job to make that kick. He knows that too, by the way. Oh, sure. He very much knows that too. The Brotherhood is strong, though. I don't know if you saw Jake Elliott. Yeah, I saw him run over there. Yeah, he ran out. Pretty awesome. Remember, Parkey used to be a kicker for the Eagles. He was a pro bowl kicker for the Eagles, so he probably has a lot of friends over there. In that situation, though, how much is that fault for the long

snapper and the holder? Did you see the ball spinning? That's what I'm saying. So the Laces were dead left. Yeah. And then Pat O'Donnell had a great game. He spins that thing all the way around. Now, granted, Cody got good wood on it, had good rotation. The ball was flying well. Yeah.

But all those things, that's not a perfect. Because remember, that's a game winner in the playoffs for that snapper and holder, too. Everybody forgets about the snapper and the holder or anything, like, oh, the kicker, the kicker. But the butthole gets very, very tight on a game-winning field goal when your job is literally to not fuck it up which is what a holder's job is pat o'donnell you go out there for a game my first time going out to hold for a game winner the feeling was just like oh shit like i got to

hit a couple in college a couple game tires i got to hit an extra point game winner in college so as a kicker i knew knew how it felt, right? But going out there for a holder, it's like, if I do my job incredible here, there's a chance we still don't. But you're not on one knee at that point. At that point, you're thinking, I got to do my job, right? It's running out to the field that you're thinking. Well, yeah, jogging on the field, you're like, oh, shit,

here we are in a game winner in a whole new situation. And then when you get down, it's like, okay, here we go. I can control this kick. In my head, here we go. I can control this kick. In my head, I would think that I could control a kick. But if I get bad laces there, the last thing you want to be a part of is like a full spin. Like, oh, my God, I am so sorry. Jesus. You've been to Terry.

Of course you made it. Tony Romo in the playoffs. Exactly. Slipped out of his hands, that whole thing. Yeah. People don't think about the snapper and holder in there, but there's a lot happening there with a lot of money on the line. By the way, Foles played great again. Yeah, what's going on?

He threw a couple picks. Yeah, but he had some fadeaway throws that were just on the money. He's slinging right now. Threw that touchdown on fourth and goal when they needed him to. He just shows up when they need him to. Are they back? I can't say they're here then for sure. Doug Peterson's vibing. He's icing kickers like it's a goddamn video game.

He's got to feel good about that, by the way. Last night, whenever he was in bed, somebody in his family either texted him or he had a face-to-face conversation where he's like, I don't know about that fucking icing. I bet you. I would if I was him. Yeah, I'd feel great about it.

You have to. I mean, you do it every time you have a timeout, right? Yeah, but when it works, you got to feel great. Yeah, I think so. I would if I was him. Yeah. I would if I was him. You have to feel great about it. You have to. I mean, you do it every time you have a timeout, right? Yeah, but when it works, you've got to feel great. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I think you pull the trigger. But that's what I was alluding to earlier with Parkey, was obviously that's a last resort.

That goal line stand, you've got to have that. That defense is the strength of your team. That's what you relied on all year. You've got to stop them. I'm so – this Eagles team with Nick Foles, I'm so intrigued by this. Carson Wentz, Nick Foles. How? How?

How do the Eagles? I sent out a tweet that these refs end up in the most ridiculous situations. Things you can't draw up. People are like, these refs make terrible calls. They do. We'll get to that. But there's also these situations where that tip of the ball on that one reach that thing might have been within millimeters of of crossing the goal line it's like how do you expect this to happen like just the most ridiculous shit happens nick foals carson

winston yeah as the philadelphia eagles organization you never could plan for this type of thing. You could never go to school on how to football coach. You could never be in the NFL for long enough to know how the fuck you figure out a situation where your franchise quarterback gets hurt and your backup quarterback wins the biggest games for you. That's absurd. How many more teams are going to do this? Are they going to get a quarterback for 16 weeks? You're fresh. Bring them in.

Get them in there. Bring them in. I don't know how they handle it. Let's say Nick Foles goes on another run here to the NFC Championship game. What the fuck do they do? How's he not your starter? They've already said that the trademark is going to be strong for him. They're going to trade.

How old is he? Really? I feel like he's into his 30s. I mean, he did not second. Hey, by the way. He's a second stint with the Eagles. Does not matter. I mean, he did not play great at the beginning of the season.

He's just a ball's out of the playoffs. What do you mean, what are they going to do? They're set. Don't do a thing. It costs them $10 million a year for Foles to come in and win big games. Carson Wentz is their future. He's hurt. Not a problem.

When's Foles' deal up, though. Isn't it up soon? Yeah, yeah. When is Wentz the future? He's going to want money. You can't pay him. You get rid of Carson Wentz if Nick Foles wins two Super Bowls? No, I'm saying they're in a perfect position. They're overpaying for their backup, but they're not. Why is everybody so stuck on them keeping Carson Wentz?

Yeah, here's my... What if he leaves and he fucking takes some other team to the championship? The Foles? Yeah, I mean, but what if that happens? That's not going to happen. You just made the worst decision in probably Philadelphia's history. Also, Wentz hurts his knee again.

I mean, that first one was pretty bad, and we could see the difference between this year and last year. Jim Irsay cut Peyton Manning due to a lot of things, right? There was a lot of things. He had no idea if he was going to be healthy. There's a lot of situations that happened. Peyton Manning went on to break a couple NFL records and win a Super Bowl and appear in another one, become the MVP again in another uniform,

and that uniform is the one that they show on TV every time Peyton Manning's on TV. And Jim Irsay is sitting in a terrible situation there with Andrew Luck sitting there, Peyton's neck injury happening, a lockout happening. There's a lot of things happening at this time. Do you think Peyton says thank you? I don't know.

I think Peyton would have rather stayed in Indianapolis. Oh, really? Yes. Peyton, but it was – 58 touchdowns in a year doesn't hurt. I think a lot of – what, in Denver? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think he enjoyed his time there.

It worked out. There's no way he would have chosen to do that. Yeah, but when they did not, when they said to Peyton, hey, we're taking a lock and we're going in that direction, still didn't know if Peyton could throw the football on that day. Because the lockout. He did not know if he could throw the football at that time. Or grip a football again.

Or grip a football. They didn't even know if he could grip a football again. He was shooting free throws with tennis balls and couldn't hit the rim. I mean, that's the point we're at. So you've got to make the decision. My future, luck, or do I read? And also, a lot of money. I think it was like $30 million or something he owed him by a certain cutoff time.

And do we put in the rehab for him and take away reps from luck? You're looking at all that stuff. Ursa was in a terrible position. A year too early or a year too late is basically what he was in. What I'm saying, though, is Ursa was in a terrible position. A year too early or a year too late is basically what I'm saying though is Ursae was in a terrible position. And his what he did, some would say failure because Peyton still had a bunch in the

tank. Some would say success because Andrew Luck's just coming in now. Peyton's not in the league for the next five, ten years here. Ursae thought for the future of the shoe instead of the current. There's a lot of different ways to argue that, but the Eagles are going to be in the same situation. I'll tell you what. You can't get football diagnoses like what we're giving to you in many places.

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See you later, Foles. Hang on to Carson Wentz. Easy decision. It's insane to me. It's really not, though. Think about Foles. Can he stay healthy? Think about Foles in Hang on to Carson Wentz. Easy decision. That's insane to me. It's really not, though. Think about Foles. Can he stay healthy? Think about Foles in the first part of this season when Wentz was down.

Wasn't great. Was not great. And then comes in and says, hey, we got no other option. You're our guy. Go do your thing. And he's been fine in that. But I'm saying that's an easy decision for Wentz from management. Some guys heal from those knee injuries right away.

You don't know with Wentz. Maybe it takes him a little bit longer to get back to right. Yeah, Wentz didn't look good at all. That first game back was against the Colts, too, and he looked terrible. Wentz, that is. So, I mean, personally, I'd probably hang on to Foles. He's got the... He has a

Super Bowl MVP. Wentz is a knee injury away from being another guy. They won't be able to afford that, though, right? What if they go on a run right now and win the Super Bowl again with Nick Foles? They might. Don't care. They're the hot team in the NFC right now. They've won, what, five in a row now? Granted, four inches away from losing that game last night.

That's something we've got to think about. But the Bears are fucking good. In Chicago. Huge win. Nick Foles goes on to win again. What do you do? People are eating horse shit again in the parades and the streets. People are rioting. They've got the ski masks on. Meek mill is not in jail this time there's concerts happening and they go you know what nick falls we appreciate you man but you gotta head out of town i don't know i don't know

honestly it all depends on how much nick wants to play ball because you could sign him to a short term deal for a lot of high money until whence his rookie deal is up right what if nick wants to retire after this by by the way? Before he came back, he went into Woods. He was going to retire. Nagy was the one who brought him back. Was he really? In KC, yeah.

Nagy brought him back in Kansas City from the Woods when he was going to retire? Yeah, I saw it last night in 2016. He said Nagy was the one who made him love football again. And now Nick Foles knocks out Nagy? Yeah. No club dub because of Nick Foles? Matt Nagy's going to hate that decision. Yeah.

Let the kids stay in the woods. Matt Nagy. Chicago's thinking, you blame Cody Parkey, you're going to blame Matt Nagy? I don't. He scored six points before that. You know what I'm saying?

Nine. Did he have three? He had two. No, that's six. Hey, hey. Two field goals? Hey, Carl's. Carl goals? Hey, Carl's. Oh, Carl.

Barstool Carl's videos. One of the most epic things I've seen on the internet in a long time. I know a lot of people probably see it as disgusting and shit like that. But as a human that enjoys people as their character, that video is one of the best things I've ever seen on the internet. Supposedly you stay at the stadium until like two in the morning. Such genuine anger. That wasn't a the internet. Supposedly, you stay at the stadium until like 2 in the morning. Such genuine anger.

That wasn't a fake anger. No, no, no. That was not a fake anger. That was a genuine anger from that guy. By the way, those types of people, those diehards, are what keep the NFL the NFL, by the way. Those people. Because fantasy football is taken away from those team diehards like that. That guy is a diehard Bears fan.

It came through in there, and Cody Parkey just happened to be on the other end of it. And I think Cody Parkey would even be like, yeah, that ball should have went through. It would have been nice. Playoffs are a different animal. Complete. Everything's on primetime.

Everything's escalated. Did you see the video that they showed before he missed the kick? Like, Parkey back in high school and college with all his YouTube videos, he'd see a pole in a parking lot and say, watch, I'll hit'll hit the pole yeah that's this new thing these kickers have gotten into i'll hit this pole so i started seeing these videos start showing up in my anytime anybody kicks anything it shows up in my timeline right which i respect for the brand i like it i'm for it but i started seeing a lot of these people these kickers training on these poles because they're like you don't need an upright to train. This is a way to train without having an upright. Go to a baseball field, hit the pole.

For me, I never did the pole drill once. I was always like, I would rather just see it go through. I always thought that. And there's a lot of camps that go like, okay, we're going to hit left upright this time. We're going to line up on the left upright, try to hit the ball. And I was a simpleton. I was like, no, no, no.

I just want to see the ball go through. If you can give me some beat up balls too so it goes further. That's why I want the confidence. I want to like, no, no, no. I just want to see the ball go through. If you can give me some beat-up balls, too, so it goes further. That's why I want the confidence. I want to go into this thing 100% confident. Hit with the wind. Yeah, yeah. I would like the confidence going in. I like to see it in.

There are some people that are like the technicians of kicking that are like one-step drill, two-step drills. They always have people working on the upright and on those goddamn baseball poles. I never understood it. But I think it's helped a lot of guys, too. I shouldn't just blame that. But for me, the irony of all those

videos popping up of him just pinging it off the fucking pole, it's like, god damn it. You had your pole that you screwed around with. No, I don't mean it that way. But if you remember this, during practice, they'd go 11 on 11 down at the other end. Oh, yeah, it's the fucking guy.

And you'd come down at the other end, and picture this now, right on the goal line, but as far left as you can go on the goal line, he would tee the ball up to make that field goal from that impossible angle. The field goal now is like this. Still going through. Still going through. Not every time. Tough kick.

It was a tough kick. Tough kick. We were all eyes on you while They were down there doing it. The goal was to go through, not to hit the... Yeah, yeah. You were trying to put it in. It would be like a yard off. So it would be like a tight little squeeze down there.

There would be side action on the side. It's like a quarter kick. Gorman and the PR guys. Yeah, he ain't going to hit that. No chance. Ten bucks. No chance. Yeah, it was...

But I'm trying to put it through, though. Still. Right, right, right. Even in that situation where I'm lined up on the pole, I did not want to see that thing get in the fucking pole. It just wasn't. I want to see it go in. I'm a simple Tim, man.

I'm a simple guy. I just want to see those jump shots fall. And I think they'll fall the next time. I'd be that way, too. Whenever we play degenerate office golf, I just want to hit the target. Dog. Hey, by the way, we got a new game in this office,

and it might ruin all of us. It will. Oh, it will. Not one of us. Oh, wow. Fuck you. Gorman is one. Three.

So we have this office golf. Three, he says. It's kind of, it's like target shooting, basically. Yep. With a 60-degree wedge. With a 60-degree wedge in an office from like 20, 30 yards away. 20 yards away. With like half a golf ball.

With half a golf ball. Yeah. It's quite a degenerate game of golf. No, it's not half a golf ball. It's a golf ball. But it's not an actual golf ball. But you get it. It's a practice golf ball.

Half a golf ball. A lot of money's being exchanged. The target is the width of a cup. So it's holding in. People are literally picturing half of a fucking ball. I know. It's a full ball. It's a practice ball. Can't confirm it's a full ball. A lot of money's being exchanged. The target is the width of a cup, so it's holding in. People are literally picturing half of a fucking ball. I know, I know. It's a full ball. It's a practice ball.

Can't confirm it's a full ball. Practice golf ball is what it is. There it is. Thank you. We're getting ready for Pebble Beach and the whole office is going to be generous. Right. Got to work on the short game. Gorman has won three games.

I've won two. You need a caddy, by the way, at Pebble Beach. Any thoughts? Any preliminary thoughts on a caddy? You already threw your name in. Well, I threw my name in there, but I'm saying if you could, you go around the nation. You've got a wide web of friends. Who would you like

on your bag at Pebble Beach? I don't know. It's a fun time, man. Fun four days. If you make the cut, it's four. I have good small talk. Easy decision. A.J. Hawk would be awesome. No, thank you. Vinny? Thank you. Oh, it's probably A.J. Hawk. He's a golfer. He's a tank, too. Oh, he's a golfer? Yeah, he golfs a lot. He's a round guy, so you wouldn't think that. Michelin man? Thank you, shooter. He's a golfer. He's a tank, too. Oh, he's a golfer? Yeah, he golfs a lot.

He's a round guy, so you wouldn't think that. Michelin man? Yeah, yeah. Thank you, huh? He's a golfer. He get you into Pebble Beach? Fucking guy. That was everybody else's.

I'm excited for the whole thing there. If I get in there, it's going to be insane, but the amount of money that's going to be gambled in this office before we get there might make this place go broke. Jesus. A lot of losers in the room in that golf game. Yeah, but Moraldo was so close today. He got hosed. Yeah, thanks for reminding me, dude.

That was such a shame. You know who got hosed? Well, I guess it ended up not mattering. Well, it did it? What's that? The fucking strip bowed down, ref blows it dead What's that? The fucking strip. Ball down. Ref blows it dead. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Overturn. Anthony Miller. The Anthony Miller catch. Did it end up working itself out or not? No. No, they had to do a complete pass. Yeah, they called it back. It seemed like the right outcome, though, in my eyes.

Give us the ball and the five. That's what I'm thinking. Like, technically, it was a fumble, and the whistle was blown dead, and no one went and picked it up. But take it back to it. Two Eagles players near closest to the ball, too. Yeah, yeah, but they didn't fucking go get it. Because the whistle had blown.

But he also did catch that ball. So how are you not going to move the ball forward? He caught it. I was torn on this. I was very torn on this. I was happy with the result. Because I was very torn on it. I guess the with the result. Because I was very torn on it. I guess the rule book states that they did it right, I guess they said on the TV.

They could have just added that in. Obviously they said that, yeah. But for me, the defense didn't go scoop that. When you're in a practice, scoop that is something that is preached heavy. Heavy, heavy, heavy. That guy makes an incredible play. If he just accidentally stumbles towards that ball and falls on it after thinking you made it,

I mean, I think it's obviously a turnover. In my head, though, I think they should have gave the catch. I think they should have gave him the fucking catch. There was no turnover because nobody recovered. Did you hear what they said when they brought him to the booth, that Larry guy, whatever? He was like, are these roughs make up rules right now? And he was like, yeah.

But it wasn't. Al Michaels was joking. He didn't know what he was talking about. The refs blew the call because if he makes a catch, he took three steps, it's a catch, the ball gets ripped from his hands, it's a fumble. You don't blow a whistle when a fumble occurs. Yeah, that's not blowing the call.

That's just them seeing it differently. For a while and predominantly this year, and I think what they should do is just wait until there is a recovery. Then you blow the whistle. Yeah. Last year was an incompletion. So you got to remember though,

refs, refs, I mean, not all refs, but you would think they would have a feel for how the players feel about something. Like if there's a possible scrum under a pile, I think refs read like,

oh shit, there's a real thing, right? None of the single bears players right it was bears that broke it up bears caught it bears caught eagles players none of the eagles play eagles broke it up right yeah yeah yeah and then he did the thing yeah none of the eagles players even attempted to run towards that ball right none of them even the guy that did it even did the pass break which by the way incredible play by that guy yeah just for

future that was an incredible play. But if any of them even turn to look like they're going to get the ball, I bet you that ref sits back, in my eyes. Everyone on the field acted like it was incomplete. Everybody on the field. And that's why it should be a catch, though, because you punish the defense for not jumping on the ball. That would have made more sense than the incomplete pass.

In my head, I was like, I think that's a catch, because granted, he did fumble, but nobody recovered it. Fumbles happen without recoveries all the time. That is out of bounds or something like that. In my eyes, it's like, yeah, he definitely fumbled, for sure fumbled. But what happened all the way up until there that was legit was the catch. And he was the last one to have possession, so you give it back to the team who had possession last. But then there's also

no full recovery happened, so did a fumble actually happen? So did that play even happen? If you can't overturn it to a real play... Calling an incomplete pass means you're going to pretend that the catch never happened. Exactly. Which seems to be the

worst option if you're going to make something up. Just like I said earlier, these refs end up in these situations that you could never, ever think about. Just like the Eagles being in a situation, just like Jim Hersey being in a situation with Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck, there's no way you could ever think of these. Those refs make the call, but you've got to understand, boys, we know this, right?

It's New York. They're just nodding their head. No, no, no. The ref has... Once they make the call, it's done. It's out of their hands. Once it goes to review. Basically what it is, is you go out in the other room. Your father and I are going to talk about this and we'll have

an answer for you. But look at the window that we're talking about. Right, right. But that's it. It's all New York. They make their call then they're done. Which is good though because they have the rule book there in New York. They have all those TV screens in New York. So how are they not getting it right? Well, they're saying, hey, we got a rule.

They got it right. Yeah, they dug through. You could tell that they, because they sent that over to the TV people to talk about them. They tweeted out the rule book last night. They had to find it. So, okay. So there was something in there that covered what happened. So there is a rule if it's a catch and a fumble

and there's no conclusive recovery, it goes back to... Because to me, that's like it goes out of bounds. It goes back to the Bears. Exactly. I think it should have been a reception up until that point. That's it. Nobody recovered it, so it's just like a fumble out of bounds. This happens.

It sucks that it happens. But I guess they have rules for different things. Think about having to draw up that rule, though. Yeah. Okay, what happens? All right, here, I have one for you. What happens if the guy catches it, they strip it, we rule it an incomplete pass, but nobody covers it up?

Well, we've got to make a clause for that, obviously. It just is an incompletion then. How do they even get to those conversations that's a great question I think the best part I mean for what they decided they're just trying to step away from the game which is good but I'm saying how do they even write that fucking rule like that's a big think tank

that's a lot of layers same way we come up with ideas there's like six of us sitting around and then we just talk for six minutes until we get somewhere we're like oh okay they're just shooting hoops. Literally, it's just what is the worst possible scenario if this were to happen? I think that's what we land on. Refs used to come in training camp

and you could ask them questions at practice and things like that. In Tom McMahon, special teams coordinator right now for the Broncos, I don't know what's going on. Is the goodbye? So his coaching tenure in Denver is... Goodbye! Dead.

I didn't want to go there just yet. But he would draw up these things for these refs to have to answer. And it was like, how do you think of these things? And then lo and behold, one of them would pop up during the season, and then he'd be on the email thing like you told me when i asked that it was just the game of football is so magical because you never know what's going to happen when you think of what it's become right it used to be a hundred dollar business then a thousand dollar business million dollar business now it's billion dollar business you got to have every possible scenario laid out to cover all your bases there

because all the gambling money on the line, too. They did it last year. Remember Jesse James? Remember the TD? No TD? Yeah, we remember it going. That was in playoffs, though. That was in playoffs. I know, but then they started calling it differently from there.

I mean, there wasn't a rule change. They just started calling it. That's what I said. Last year, that play would have been an incompletion. How do you feel, bud? How do I feel? About the AFC North. Great. Yeah. I feel great. I feel? About the AFC North. Great.

Yeah. I feel great. I don't know what's going to happen there. The Golden Globes was last night. Two nights ago, I guess, depending on when you're listening to this. True. So interesting because the Golden Globes is literally Hollywood talking to each other. They have no idea that the camera's even on, I don't think.

Whenever they're doing the jokes, it's just for the room. Whenever they're giving their speeches, it's just for the room. And it's a nice little peek inside of how Hollywood feels about things. Very interesting to me. A Star Is Born got no, no, no credit from anybody over there in Hollywood. Lady Gaga got some credit, too. I mean, they got the song. I mean,

Shallow, obviously, a banger, won Best Song. Oh, she didn't win Best Actress in the movie? No, fucking Glenn did. By the way, Glenn's speech, though, two Ns, Glenn, was a mesmerizing moment from the Golden Globes. A lot of them go political, get very political, but the speech that Glenn gave seemed engaged and real, and it's probably because she thought Gaga was going to win.

So she didn't write it all down. She should have. It's bullshit. Yeah, they won best song. I know that for a fact, right? Shallow won best song. Yeah, but some other guy was talking for that, for the award for that.

Oh, boy. Yeah, he said no respect. Fuck that guy. He said that when you write for Lady Gaga, you're... Oh, look at this guy. So he's saying if you write for Lady Gaga, you automatically win.

No, what he said was that she was incredible with it. She took it and made it her own song, blah, blah, blah. But he did all the speaking in that acceptance. It wasn't Lady Gaga. It was... She was saving hers for later, but Glenn, out of nowhere. She don't care about a Golden Globe. She wants an Oscar. So Golden Globe means

nothing to nobody. I think it's prestigious, but not as prestigious as the Oscars. Yeah, it's normally the award show where everyone gets drunk. Yeah, it's a frat party. The Oscars, that's Oscars. Yeah, it's normally the award show where everyone gets drunk. Yeah, it's a frat party. The Oscars, that's a ball. Yeah, it was like the Rose Bowl this year. No one really cared.

But it's the first one. It's the lead-off one. Yeah, it's like a preseason game. It's a little preseason game. To me, the Golden Globes is the biggest for TV people. For shows that are on TV. So many shots fired at TV people, by the way. Movie people were close.

TV people in the back, they had a whole Jim Carrey bit about them. Yeah, that's how it works. Like the night of foreign press. Every fucking time. Everybody. You got to do that. Well, yeah, if you don't, you'll never get another one. I do feel as if these people are getting awards for being creative.

Creative individuals. Creative. You either acted, which is your art somehow. You wrote something, which is your art somehow you wrote something which is your art somehow you have a imaginative brain somehow to be able to dive into these characters or write these movies or score it or or make this laugh for that laugh you have a creative uh gene in your body casted they talked about it a couple times last night Like this is our art This is how we do it And the people that win the awards for being the most creative people

In particular groups and genres Get up there and give a speech And every single one of them Is the exact same god damn speech With no creativity No creativity We don't need to thank 500 people They fucking get it

Just tell a little story up there Make me laugh Especially at the Globes like that Creativity. No creativity. We don't need to thank 500 people. They fucking get it. Just tell a little story up there. You're right. Make me laugh. Especially at the Globes like that. It's not stiff like the other ones. I mean, it's supposed to be loosey-goosey. They're throwing liquor around. I'm with you.

Hey, if you want to do a political thing, go ahead. Cool. Let's just make it sound good. Let's not read it off a goddamn page. You're paid to memorize lines. What are we doing? That's the weirdest part. It is.

You can't memorize. You can memorize what other people write for you, but you can't memorize something you write for your own? That's the weirdest part. It is. Yeah, you can't memorize what other people write for you, but you can't memorize something you write for your own? They don't want to leave anybody out. You may never win again, and that's going to be your forever moment

at the Golden Globes as a winner. I would like to thank Jim, James, Jackie, Joe, Todd, not you in Indianapolis,

Todd, Pittsburgh, Todd, also Indianapolis, Todd, Ohio, Ohio, Todd, not you in Indianapolis, Todd. Pittsburgh, Todd. Also Indianapolis, Todd. Ohio, Jill. Lighting team. I think they should put an end credit scene behind them and they just have the names go.

That would be easier. That's the best way to do it. You know how college football teams have the signs for the place? Yeah. Have somebody walk out right behind you with captions almost. Thanks to these people. Give a regular speech. Every photo has the people. Hey, look what we just did. Thanks to these people. Give a regular speech. Every photo has the people.

Now, see, hey, look what we just did. We made it creative. Yeah. Which, if you're winning an award for being creative, you would think you would fucking do. That's right. Here's my thing. A lot of these big stars do not have Twitters and things like that.

I think they're afraid of the internet. They go out there, and they put themselves out there, and they try to do a creative speech. They're putting them out there to criticism from the internet. Was it this weekend? And they just read off names. They're fine. Was it this weekend where Jason Witten called out Twitter?

He said to Booger, he said, at the Pro Bowl, I'll go do defensive drills, you do tight end drills, and we'll let the Twitter people who talk so much decide. And I was like, oh, whitton is acknowledging twitter that's a huge deal because i think twitter has been quite a negative place for jason whitton this year as he's been going through his learning um little bit bumps uh we'll say in the whole thing and i think i don't know who told him how he found out but he took a broad swipe at Twitter,

and it seems like that probably is the Hollywood thing. Like, hey, this is just a terrible place. These people give these reviews on these IMDB things. It's a terrible place. These people tweet terrible things. That is probably there. Just read your thank yous. Thank everyone.

Thank God, blah, blah, blah. Get off the stage, and you'll be fine. Just tell a story about when you were broke and an actor. Anything. Give me something from the heart. I also think a lot of them probably don't want to be there. Probably just want to go up there, mail it in, get it over with, and get back in the scene.

I can see that if you're Denzel. You were in front of 30 million people. That's bigger than any of the movies or shows that you're doing right now. This is a work event. That is a work event. But that not, that is a work event. But that's exactly why they wouldn't do that because they don't want to be those people at the work party after

because they're going to that Golden Globes after party. You don't want to be part of that small group, that one, that everyone's like, hey, fuck these people. You hear that guy's speech up there? I thought you were going to say you're going to be the guy at the work event who's in the meeting asking questions when you just shut the fuck up, we'll get out of here.

That's what I was going to say, too. Oh, you're thinking everybody in the crowd's like, in the meeting asking questions. When you just shut the fuck up, we'll get out of here. That's what I was going to say, too. Oh, you're thinking everybody in the crowd is like, listen, we all know. Like, just shut the fuck up. Yeah, we get it. We're trying to go drink. Oh, I didn't even think about that. If that is the entire crew of A-list and B-list and D-list and everybody's just like, listen, you win, keep it quick. Yeah.

Because we're running past time. And when that music gets, we don't need you. Oh, that was something. A guy won. One of the Farre the fairly brothers yeah and he told the music to stop yeah so he he silenced the music so turn it off and then he went on to tell a story about how a musician was silenced and i just the irony to me was just completely was it on purpose completely outrageous oh yeah he was dead serious he was telling a story about

how racial injustice to this musician back in the day. It was an incredible story, by the way. But for me, the first 15 seconds of it was incredibly ironic because he was screaming at the music people to basically shut up. And then he led off with a story about how this musician was silenced. And I just lost it. I was like, oh. I was obviously on some vitamins.

I was obviously on some vitamins. So I was like, whoa, that was crazy. And then I started listening to the story. I was like i was obviously on some vitamins yeah i was obviously on some vitamins so i was like whoa that was crazy and then i started listening to the story i was like oh good story i'm happy it stuck to music i'm happy he got through that but it was a wild scene it was i love when they start playing that music i love when they start playing that hey shut the fuck up the reactions can be great the hollywood foreign press are these very nice people right they all hey the foreign, the lady who spoke, had this exactly how you think she would sound. Super proper, just very proper.

They take a lot of prestige. But they're a wine drunk, too. They're not going to directly tell you to shut the fuck up, but they're going to do something in a roundabout way. And that music seemed to be louder this year than it normally is. What's the next step, you think? They just put a trap door in the ground? Fucking the hook the hook i don't know it's a it was i watched the whole thing i thought sandberg did well i thought sandra oh did well sandra oh

yeah like from gray's anatomy yep oh see i didn't know i thought she did well though by the she obviously wasn't a stand-up comedian no No. But she did well, I thought. Yeah. Sandberg, good gimmick, good gig. I thought he did great. I've never seen Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Oh, so good. You should think about it.

It's pretty funny. That's why, I mean, remember, it got canceled, and now it got picked up again because people wanted it back. So I was watching the commercial for it, and it was the one where he was drawing out what he thought the commercial should be. Yep. He was jumping on a helicopter, and then they show him in real life and the guy's like no that'd be way too

expensive i got i legitimately laughed you're a terry cruise guy too i legitimately i legitimately laughed out loud at that i was like yeah that was fine i did not see that going that way i thought it was everything i thought it was whenever he was jumping on that thing i was like yeah these motherfuckers like this corny ass pop star andy sandberg everybody in the office likes him i seen that pop star movie i think this guy's terrible and then that these motherfuckers like this corny-ass pop star, Andy Samberg. Everybody in the office likes him. I've seen that pop star movie. I'm like, this guy's terrible. And then that commercial happens, and I'm like, people that I'm friends with like this show, like this show. And then all of a sudden, the cut at the end is him mocking it.

I'm like, oh, he was just doing the same exact thing I was doing. I think I like this guy. And after that commercial, I was much easier and lighter on Samberg. Did you like him in SNL? Do you remember him? I don't think so. I don't think I remember him much. He did all the songs.

He was the music guy. Oh, yeah. Dick in a Box. Yeah. Lonely Island. I'm on a boat. Did a lot of cool stuff with Timberlake. I thought that was really good stuff.

But then that pop star, I thought he was just like- His downfall. His Saturday Night Live course, by the way, right? Saturday Night Live people do good, good, good, good, good, good, good, and then bad. That's what happens. Good, good, good, good, good, good, good, and then bad. That's what happens. Good, good, good, good, good, good, and then all their creative juices are almost used up or something like that. Happens to everybody, and then they're gone. Seems like in my personal research that is what happens.

I think he's really good in small doses. I don't think he can carry a movie or be a lead role or anything like that. Well, I saw a pop star, and you're right. I'm excited for Brooklyn Nine-Nine, if it was anything like last night. I thought he did a great job. I really did. You're in a terrible spot hosting any of these award shows. Yeah, it's a no-win situation.

You can only mess up. You're a holder. You've got to be very, very good if you want to get any praise at all. You're a holder. You are. That's exactly what you are. You can only fuck it up. Well, and you're never going to get any praise because something that happens during the show is going to outshine whatever you do, whether it's positive or negative.

And that's your Seinfeld, though, or something like that. Like, big name. I think he'd get killed if he did it. He wouldn't want to do it. He would never do it. That's what I'm saying. He wouldn't, but I think if he did, in this day and age, I think he'd get killed on Twitter. I just don't.

It's not like somebody's going to have to do it because Kevin Hart. Like, somebody's going to have to do it because Kevin Hart. By the way, Kevin Hart, Ellen DeGeneres now, the LGBTQ community going against Ellen and Kevin Hart now, and the Oscars. I'm excited to see how that works out. But whoever hosts that is in a terrible position. That person has no shot.

They are an NFL ref. There is nobody pulling for them. Whoever is signing up for that has no shot, unless it's somebody like Ellen who is, well, before this situation, was universally loved. I think that's the only person that can do that. Someone like Ellen they might actually give some creative control to.

You're an Andy Samberg or somebody like that, you have no shot. Kimmel? It's on ABC. He's the quick fill-in. It's just like, whatever. We know this guy can control the show and do it. Like, who gives a shit? Let's just get him up there and get it over with. But does Kimmel want to do it?

Kimmel knows that whoever goes up there, the Kevin Hart fans, fanhood, that whole evening is going to be an interesting one. Now, granted, this is just the internet, so if these people don't ever read the internet, which is possible, it's not a big deal at all. We'll just live to see another day, see you tomorrow. Did I remember really enjoying Ricky Gervais?

Oh, yeah. You may have, but a lot of people did not. I liked it. We would have all, if you didn't see it, everybody in this room would have loved Ricky Gervais. Oh, yeah, I did. That's right. I remembered that.

The thing about that is, exactly what I just said, though, at the beginning of this whole thing, they're doing that show for the people in the room. That is a show for Hollywood. They don't really care about the outside the room. And we're just getting a glimpse to look in on how they do their balls and shit.

Ricky Gervais was the complete opposite. He was doing the show for the people at home. He didn't care about anybody in the room. Great moments in that. Great moments in that. But there's no way they ever bring him back. How about Timberlake? Someone like that could do it. He crushes the ESPYs, too.

Someone who's loved by everyone. Back in the day, Billy Crystal and Robin Williams, man, when they would do it, it was fucking unreal. You have to be universally loved. Did Rob Riggle do one recently? No. Not the ESPYs. She did the ESPYs. I thought Drake did well at the ESPYs.

I watched Drake if he did the ESPYs. I watched Drake if he did the ESPYs this year. Yeah, but Drake. She did the ESPYs. I thought Drake did well with the ESPYs. I watched Drake if he did the Oscars this year. Yeah, but Drake will never host the Oscars. The people who are running that, they are never going to let that happen.

It's just old-ass white dudes, which is why it's Billy Crystal and shit like that all the time. He'd be all right. Universally loved. He'd been in some seriously good movies

as of late that have been up for Oscars, too. Steve Carell, I think, could go in there. Good pull, Frank. I saw him last night. He looked distinguished. He had the beard.

He looked good. He had a funny moment in the middle of that where he wasn't supposed to have, and you could tell that he was having a funny moment. I think he said something that came out the wrong way, and you saw his face gather himself, and then he continued to talk because he did the Carol Burnett introduction. I think Steve Carell is the possible answer. Yeah, you might have hit that on the head. But he may not want to do it either.

That's a tough spot. That's a thing. I mean, why would you want to? That's a tough spot. You're pissing off whoever. Yeah. Especially if you're already very famous like that. I mean, what do you have to gain?

Yeah. I think it makes sense for the two people who did it last night. That makes sense for them. Yeah. You know what I mean for the two people that did it last night. That makes sense for them. They're not at a gigantic level. Tina Fey and Amy Poehler used to be fucking great at the Globes. They were awesome. That's true.

I forgot about that. The Golden Globes, though, you guys are telling me mean nothing. The Oscars are all that matter. I wouldn't say they mean nothing. Like I said, a lot of times what happens at the Globes kind of forecasts what could happen at the Oscars. I'll tell you what. I never thought I'd watch that whole thing.

I did. I'm kind of embarrassed. I'm excited for us to take one over one day. Let's hope that happens. Thank you so much for everybody that listened. Hope you have an incredible Tuesday here the rest of your day. Heartland Radio 2.0 is back tomorrow. Huge thanks to Sean Merriman, Matt Hasselbeck, and the boys here.

Incredible. Thank you, guys. On Thursday, we got Quentin Nelson, the juggernaut, all-pro, rookie offensive lineman for the Colts, and T.Y. Hilton. Nice pull. Let's go. Both of those, not big talkers. Not big talkers.

I'll be excited to see you. I think we're going to get good stuff out of him. Yeah, you'll get it out of him. By the way, not just Colts fans are going to enjoy this Quentin Nelson kid, by the way. He might be the best offensive lineman to ever come into the NFL. Yeah. There are not many rookies who are first-team all-pro.

Joe Thomas, right? Probably the last guy? Good company. He's pretty damn good. During the draft, I mean, they said he was going to be the best. He's going to be an all-pro for the next 10 years. This guy's the guy. Might be the greatest offensive lineman in history.

Excited for that conversation with him, knowing that he could maul me at any moment. T.Y. Hilton wore the clown mask. He's doing big things. He doesn't get a lot of national notoriety either. I can't wait to talk to him. I might have a special surprise guest as well. Got a hint?

Got a hint? Throw something out there? Special surprise. There's your fucking hint. Last night, Sam and I were in bed with Val in between us. And Sam attempted, didn't attempt, she actually just chose to, on Sunday, out of nowhere, with zero preparation, do a seven and a half mile hike.

Wow. Because the weather was nice. It was nice. Great day. January, good weather. Wild card weekend. I'll be watching games. Her and a couple of her friends go on a seven and a half fucking mile hike.

That's more than a quarter of a marathon. Go to another town. You end up in another town when you walk seven and a half miles. Legit. Whole new county. I think there's like, we talked to a business owner who has a non-compete that's seven miles. She walked it. Seven and a half miles.

But she chose to take Val with her. Oh. Oh, no. So she's getting in the car. She's getting in the car with Val to go to this hiking thing. And I go, yeah, what did Val do?

Right. Hey, why is Val? And she's like, oh, she's my hiking partner. I'm like, seven and a half miles. Val hasn't run from one side of our house

to the other in probably six months. I think Val's fully informed of what's going hiking partner. I'm like, seven and a half. Val hasn't run from one side of our house to the other in probably six months. I think Val's fully informed of what's going on here. Val's excited to leave the house. She thinks we're going to watch football. Mom puts her in a seat, and she's excited, and she knows the way down to this office. So Val, as soon as I'm turning off the highway, she starts standing. She knows. I would have liked to be there whenever she drives right past the exit to come here and go to the hiking thing,

and Val just looking over there like, where the fuck are we going? She's going, Ruh-roh, where are we going? Starts getting water bottles strapped to the back of her. What the hell's going on here? Back, back. Yeah, exactly. Hey, welcome. You are now a donkey for this mountain.

No, she walks, Val walks the whole thing. And I guess the last half a mile, it was like she was being dragged, right? I guess Val was being dragged. Sam had to pick her up into the car afterwards, like just a bag of bones. And Sam sends me a picture in the car ride home, and Val's just staring at the camera like, I don't know why the fuck. So she gets all the way home, and Val's laying in between.

I had to lift her up onto the bed, by the way. She couldn is laying in between i had to fuck out had to lift her up onto the bed by the way she couldn't even get up on the lift her up on the bed and she like dragged herself like an army drag in between us and then she just laid her head down on my chest and i was like petting her like hey you're gonna be okay yeah and then i look over at sam and sam's like can you is there any way you can go get me well can't walk. So now I got Val who can't move. This dog literally can't move. Sam can't move. Her entire body is sore.

I go get her water. We come back. She passes out shortly thereafter. Val's sleeping there and I'm watching the golden globes. And I'm like, I'm looking over and Val's like tucked in underneath us. I'm like, this is going to be a child one day.

This is going to be a human one day right here. Dogs will do that to you. And that spun me into probably a two and a half, three hour conversation with myself. Just staring at the ceiling. Like, what happens if I produce a fucking serial killer? You love that serial killer. Like, you have to be a good parent when you have a kid you have to be a good parent because domber could happen domber had terrible parents domber happened so i started

thinking like how can i how am i gonna be able i got things i want to do with my life correct so i had almost had a panic attack and i am not somebody who gets anxiety in any situation by the way any of them you throw them in there for me it's like okay i'll just make a story out of this if this goes bad we'll be okay. Anything good's going to happen. Last night after Golden Globes ended, I almost had a goddamn heart attack. I was thinking about my childhood and how terrible of a parent I'll probably

be. And then it ended with me going, eh, a lot of terrible people are parents. I'll probably figure it out. And I swigged NyQuil, drugged myself to sleep basically, and cuddled Val and just woke up this morning like, yeah, hopefully I never have a kid.

So it was a full range of emotions. See, that shows me that you're going to be fine. Anyways, hashtag endgame, hashtag endgame. Send us something hilarious. Let's have an incredible week. Cheers. You guys are the best. Ty Schmidt, hit the music. Gonna drift to the great wide open

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