The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 038 - Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk, & Kris Jenner

Episode Date: January 15, 2019

On today’s show, Pat and the guys do a DEEP dive into the Divisional Round of the playoffs and cover everything else that happened in the NFL over the weekend. They chat about the Patriots not being... dead, the Chiefs dominating victory over the Colts, the Rams looking like one of the best teams in the NFL, and Nick Foles seeing his magic run out. Gorms also talks a bit about his weekend going to the Colts/Chiefs game on the private jet with Jim Irsay. Later, friend of the show, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk calls in for a nice hearty football discussion. They bounce around from the playoffs, his schedule now that the football season is almost over, and what he thinks about all the different coaching changes thus far. The room also fires several questions at Florio ranging from AB potentially playing in San Francisco or somewhere else, if the Packers made a good decision in Matt LaFleur, how he settled on Pro Football Talk, and who he thinks will win the Super Bowl (1:26:34-2:10:13). Pat also debuts a new segment, “Let’s Get Topical,” as he discusses who might be out to get The Rock after a UK magazine misquoted him in an interview, and the conspiracy behind the Instagram egg that took over Kylie Jenner for the most liked picture on the app. It's a really good one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:41 Ty Schmidt let it slide. Ty Schmidt got accepted into Harvard. So what does that tell you? No, I apologize for that mistake. It'll never happen again. Today we have the greatest football conversation I think you'll ever hear in your entire life. Pro Football Talk is the biggest nerd
Starting point is 00:00:56 when it comes to NFL stuff, and we just dove in and picked the hell out of his brain for like 40 minutes. Incredible conversation there. We talk about life, and by the way, at the end of of this show there's a brand new segment we're not a segment show but we made one oh cuz you might have been a little bit high this weekend watching late night tv when semi-pro came on i watched jackie Moon deliver the goods. Get the funk out of my face. Get the funk
Starting point is 00:01:26 out of my face. Get the funk out of my face. Get the funk out of my face. If you don't like my music, you don't have to use it. Yeah, I watched it. I had a great time. And they came in for a little team huddle. And they brought
Starting point is 00:01:41 it up around. Let's get tropical! Because they were the flint michigan tropics they were preparing for the mega bowl after he fought a bear what's the what was his code word spumoni spumoni i don't need no code words there will be no refund your refund will be escaping this death trap with your life he he said. But whenever they said, let's get tropical, in my state of mind that I was in, after the Colts got shlacked by the Chiefs, we'll talk about it later today. You're going to enjoy that conversation.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Also, Gorman was in Ursae Suites. You'll get to hear the inside of an owner's team after they get shlacked in the playoffs. It was awesome to see. But I thought, let's get topical. So we've been building up our youtube page pat mcafee show we're up to 105 000 subscribers the pat mcafee show sorry i'm sure pat mcafee show was one i made in the past i forgot the password too that is exactly what a couple out there that is exactly
Starting point is 00:02:36 what happened the pat mcafee show has gone up to 105 000 subscriptions and i guess people enjoy listening to me rant about things they like to to hear my thought. So with that in mind, because a couple of sponsors have told us like, Hey, build up the YouTube so we can also get involved in that. That's where everybody's at. It should be easy for you. So we put out a couple of me ranting during the podcast and they do well on the YouTube. We're going to put them here at the end of the podcast. If you don't make them, you don't make them just know that I got topical. So we let's get topical at the end of this show. You're going to enjoy it. I talk about everything.
Starting point is 00:03:09 I even solved the fucking egg Instagram thing. That was wild. And I actually, I solved it while answering the question, which was good. I'm happy I could do that. I don't want to give it away, but it's an inside job. Wow. It's an inside job. Talk about the rock.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah. Somebody crushing the rock. That could be an inside job as well. I think that's an inside job. Talk about the rock. Yeah. Somebody crushing the rock. That could be an inside job as well. I think that's an inside job as well. I'm too woke for this shit. Too woke for this stuff. Anyways, that's at the end of the show. You're going to love it.
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Starting point is 00:05:53 Let's dive into this conversation. Divisional weekend was a crazy one, man. I'll tell you what. I feel like as a man who played in the NFL for eight years all pro, couple pro bowlers
Starting point is 00:06:10 kicked off a Super Bowl got a chance to really see the entire NFL we're undefeated my first year and then we went almost completely defeated a couple years later I've seen the top, I've seen the bottom there is something
Starting point is 00:06:25 that i should have known and i sent it in the group text i sent it in a group text all last week after sean merriman went on a full run and a full rant all of bro bro bro bets saying chargers plus four everybody was talking about this i looked at the nfl morning show everybody had the chargers everybody had the chargers and i saw that and then i went in to put in my bet and as i was going to put in the bet for the chargers plus four i even said i was going to take it strictly because the bro bro bro bet said it strictly because sean merriman came on the show and he said he wanted to punch me basically if I didn't. I went in there and I had the full intent of gambling and betting for the Chargers and for Phillip Rivers. Especially after that video comes out of Phillip Rivers for two minutes just talking in a hilarious fashion. With no curse words.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Talking shit. Better than any human I've seen talk shit with zero swearing. It was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in my entire life. I actually tweeted that the only reason why I was betting on the Chargers was because of that video. But I lied to the internet. I didn't lie to you guys in the group text, though. When I finally got in there and I went to bet against Tom Brady
Starting point is 00:07:43 and I went to bet against Bill Belichick and that old fucking guy up in the booth. I don't know who he is. And Gronkowski, who somehow found a way to still play, even though they're talking about retirement. He's basically had a three-week break, by the way, because Houston losing to Philly really changed the game here. Houston losing to Philly changed the game because New England secured a bye week the first week. So they basically had three weeks to get healthy going into this.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And as soon as I want to put my bet in that I've been saying all week, when everybody was saying, I couldn't pull the trigger. I just couldn't put my money on the Chargers. So I bet on the Patriots. Good for you, dude. And I bet on the over. And it was a bet that I was willing to lose. I was willing to lose it.
Starting point is 00:08:29 You've been happy either way. I was like, listen, Chargers win here. I look like a genius for sticking with all my friends. But if the Patriots win here, I at least win. And then once you start watching that Patriots team in Foxborough, it's like, why did any human, including me,
Starting point is 00:08:50 think that the Patriots weren't going to do exactly what the fuck the Patriots did? It's to the point now where it does not matter how many humans they have on the field. Let's just assume that Belichick and Brady and McDaniels are going to figure it out. Like this upcoming weekend, right, they're playing against probably the most talented football team in the NFL right now.
Starting point is 00:09:11 They've got no chance. The Chiefs have no fucking shot. The Chiefs have no fucking shot against – and I'm pulling for the Chiefs. I'm pulling for the Chiefs hard. And we'll talk about the Chiefs-Colts game, and we'll talk about the amount of fucking... We put a... Kansas City is a huge city for our show. A huge city for our show.
Starting point is 00:09:29 We actually have the stats and the record. Kansas City is a huge, huge listener of this show, listening base of this show. We put out that Patrick Mahomes show. I couldn't take it. I had to fucking delete the tweet because all I got was Chiefs fans just talking shit to me, and then I got Colts fans talking shit to me.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I'm like, we're a small fucking business. Get off my ass. I had to delete it because the amount of just dumping on the Colts there was because the Colts look bad. We'll talk about that. But the Patriots, I think they can make anybody look bad. I honestly believe that and it has to feel good as a Patriot fan. It feels good.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I'll tell you what. I mean, the whole week, the cold was kind of a thing. We said that from the beginning. You said that. I said that. I think right away you kind of saw that. A lot of players were getting hit and then coming right off for the Chargers. They weren't liking it. It's just you show up in Foxborough, and you got these
Starting point is 00:10:17 rabid fan base. This rabid fan base in there. The things they used to say to Vinatieri, who won them a couple games, was just awesome, right? Like, that's the type of fan base that you want personally. Now, I come from Pittsburgh, obviously. I mean, it's just the way I enjoy people that talk shit. The fan base that you want is a fan base that everybody hates, right?
Starting point is 00:10:37 I mean, that's exactly. It's just like Richie Incognito. I assume every human hates him, but if he's on your team, you'll love him. Just like the fan base. I assume everybody hates Patriots fans, which you should, by the way. But if you're a Patriot, you've got to love him because you get into Foxborough and it's just a gladiator atmosphere. You're taking on an entire region of the country, it feels like,
Starting point is 00:10:58 and everybody just shit on themselves. This was the year that the Chargers were traveling all over the country. They had no home games. They had no home field advantage. We'll play you here. We'll play you there. Nothing can stop us. And then they looked like an amateur football team.
Starting point is 00:11:10 They looked like an amateur football team against that Patriots team. So bad. They looked bad. I did the same thing you did on Sunday morning. I had a parlay this weekend with KC, L.A., Philly, and then San Diego. And I woke up Sunday morning. Los Angeles. San Diego. And then I woke up on Sunday and I was... Los Angeles. San Diego.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And then I woke up on Sunday and I was like, I feel terrible about this. I have to hedge it. So I at least hedged it and took the Patriots, just strictly because I had... It takes a lot. I mean, it's easy to talk about the Chargers winning all week, but then on Sunday when it comes to it,
Starting point is 00:11:41 when you're going to put money on it... Put your fucking money on it. It's a whole different... Because I've lost by 50 in Foxborough in the AFC Championship game. I mean, I've been a part of a couple rumblings and bumblings
Starting point is 00:11:54 and absolute massacres against the New England Patriots. I've been on the opposite sideline. And then Tom Brady, after the game, says, I know you guys all think we suck. It'll be fun. We'll see, is what he says.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So now the greatest player of all time has a chip on his shoulder again? And then Julian Edelman was doing an interview with Deion Sanders afterwards and basically said the same thing. It was like, everybody thinks we suck. I'm like, fuck me. So now Belichick has the greatest dynasty in the history of the NFL thinking that they are real underdogs, which they are, by the way. I guess the Chiefs are favored again, which is fucking outrageous.
Starting point is 00:12:33 But now that entire operation, which lives and dies as it's us versus the world, somehow has a chip on its shoulder again. And Tom Brady wearing that black turtleneck all the way up to his fucking gin he was slinging the ball better than I've ever seen Tom Brady those the break the bye week the two weeks in the tb12 with the avocado ice cream and all that shit with old Herrero on the side his knee looked healthy again this it's happening again it's happening again and I just don't know how you stop it I have no idea how you stop it. I don't think you can. Patrick Mahomes. He's a wizard, dude.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Okay, so let's talk about that. Colts look terrible, man. Unbelievably bad. Hell of a run for the Indianapolis Colts. Let's not get crazy. 1-5, brand new coach, and they rattle off 10 of their last 12. That is a very, very good success story. I thought there was
Starting point is 00:13:24 a chance maybe that the bye week would hurt that kansas city chiefs offense since it's not andy reed season anymore but turns out that was not the case turns out that patrick mahomes is a stud man that guy can sling the fucking rock any any throw you can even imagine the one where he was on the left side of the two the his lineman and the defender who's coming at him and he threw it around him to Kelsey. I didn't have words for it. Travis Kelsey had a huge game.
Starting point is 00:13:52 He sent me a DM last week basically saying, we think we can beat anybody. I was like, oh, fuck. That kind of shook you a little bit. Your confidence took a hit there when you read that. It was on Friday. It was on Friday live at the way outs, which we'll have another way out on this upcoming Friday. Also PMI live lounge on our YouTube page tomorrow at noon, kind of keeping up with the weight loss, which we'll talk about here in a bit. But I read that DM for the first time live on air on Friday. And Gorman was like, sounds like a guy that shook. And I was like, no, no, no, no. This sounds like his message was this. So I said, can I get a quote to read on my podcast about your mindset going into this weekend against the Colts? He goes, just do your job and be yourself.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Don't got to be anything more than that. The playoffs tend to make people believe you have to be better when in reality, it's all a mind frame to just play your best with minimal mistakes. Rise to the occasion when called upon and play with a sense of urgency. We feel we can beat anybody when we play our best and there was three exclamation points at the end of that and i read that and i was like not good not good that is a team that sounds ready to he had all the talking points of a team that is ready to go listen we don't have to play better than anything
Starting point is 00:15:00 we just got to show up and play ourselves bum bum bum bum bum and they did just that and travis kelsey had a huge game but that chiefs team they might as well just just completely fisted the colts offense too there was nothing i was gonna say as good as my homes was the chiefs d look great and for a struggling team in the regular season man they came out three sacks on luck i was talking i was talking to your dad earlier and he's like after that colts game i wanted to fucking puke he's like he's like and i might agree with him he's like i don't know if luck has like the he has it in the playoffs like does he care enough well that's an interesting thing because he's such a nice guy yeah right he's such a nice guy and they had this one and oh mentality that got scoffed about on the internet obviously for the flag but they've
Starting point is 00:15:42 had this one and oh meant which is a bad p. I mean, it's bad to look at. As soon as that flag went up. Yeah, but as a coach, you've got to know. You have to have a little bit more self-awareness that you can't just run with that flag. If you want to have that week 15, week 14, cool, but putting that flag up after the first playoff win makes it appear as if you're celebrating being 1-0 in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I agree. And he went on a 10-game run there where he just wasn't touched. And now all of a sudden, he goes from that to, man, I got a split second to get rid of this ball or I'm fucking on my ass. See, but in my head, they have that 1-0 mindset, right? Where every game was a playoff game, even the week 10 game. That's how they were treating it. So as an athlete, mentally, hey we have nothing to lose we have nothing to lose we have nothing to lose one and oh one and oh one and oh that's all we gotta do but then whenever the situation gets big that can kind of ruin alter that thought whenever everybody is
Starting point is 00:16:36 telling you how big of a game this is it's kind of hard to keep pushing like yeah we just have to go one no this week just like we want one and oh in week 13 or something like that it kind of changes things mentally. And it looked like the entire team was rattled, to be honest. It looked like the entire team was rattled. I thought our defense really stepped up in the second half, but there was just nothing in the offense. That could be because the Chiefs laid off, too.
Starting point is 00:16:58 You know what I mean? I think there's a lot of optimism going into next year because you've got a young culture. But, boy, that was a long fucking game, man That was just an ass-beating Gorman, you happened to be there I was How was it? It was awful
Starting point is 00:17:12 I mean, it starts with Eric Ebron Catch the football on the first drive I know Just catch the first down Chip away down the field It didn't happen I mean, we had no first downs in the first half You've got Vinny doinking goalposts
Starting point is 00:17:23 You've got Eric Ebron And what, four or five passes batted down at the line of scrimmage? Yeah, I think it was like six. Big momentum. They were jumping off sides. We couldn't run the ball. Chris Jones is a monster. He's could not run the ball.
Starting point is 00:17:34 You're absolutely right. And then that's when they came in with the game plan. Frank Gregg just told everybody, hey, we're going to run the ball. It's what we do. And when they couldn't get anywhere with that, it's like they just kept doing it. I didn't see them like, all right, let's let our gunslinger let go a little bit. But, of course, fuck, he only had so much time to get rid of the ball.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Third and one, empty backfield. It's like, what are we doing here? We're on the road. It's crazy snow. It's windy. Third and one, empty backfield. Doink. You know?
Starting point is 00:18:01 I'm just saying, I understand. And the Colts' defense against tight ends, 32nd in the league. It's like, okay, we're going to, they're going to exploit the tight end, and he's the best, one of the best in the league. It's like, they had no answer for Travis Kelsey. None. Well, also, there was a couple plays there where they dumped it off to Travis Kelsey where I think they actually had Tyreek Hill for a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:18:21 There was one screen where they faked the screen to Hill and then went back over here. If they would have thrown that screen, I'm pretty sure Tyreek Hill would have scored. Tyreek Hill threw a deuce in Clayton Gathers' face. He was down. He was down, ruled before down. But he pops up, barely down, by the way.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Gets tackled by one guy, barely down, pops back up, looks Clayton Gathers in his face. Clayton Gathers might have a step on him, actually. Looks him in the face and throws the deuce, and there was nothing Clayton Gathers in his face. Clayton Gathers might have a step on him, actually. Looks him in the face and throws the deuce, and there was nothing Clayton Gathers could do about it. This is a professional athlete. Clayton Gathers, NFL safety, incredible football player. Another human just looked him right in his face and said,
Starting point is 00:18:57 there ain't shit you can do. I am about to run right the fuck by you right now. I saw that, and I was like, yo, this Tyreek Hill dude is getting out of control. He's got confidence as he should, by the way. I don't know. This Chiefs-Patriots game, the AFC, I think, is represented by exactly who we thought it was going to be represented by if you go back to the beginning of the year. The Chiefs team, though, there's just something about playing that
Starting point is 00:19:21 them having at home is huge. Because the home of the is a rowdy place to throw snowballs at fucking potter i think that place was great aim by the way great aim that was a really good throw that hits rigoberto though that's a penalty right 15 yards first down something to think about rigoberto something to think about that was perfect timing though perfect time had some something to think about rigoberto something to think about that was perfect timing though perfect time had some stupid penalties think about this colts team all right think about you know back into the mix back in the playoffs playoff win first round they're down 17
Starting point is 00:19:55 i mean they play and catch up the whole time one good play defensively these guys are dancing on the field these guys are swimming swimming i'm not happy about that. 15 yards. By the way, I saw that all weekend. What are we doing out there? Just humping. Look at the situation they were in. That possibly could have changed the momentum.
Starting point is 00:20:15 That was a big fucking play. The air hump to the right. You can't do the hump. It was incredible that he did the full Valvinas hip spin thrust. One and a half laps around he gave that thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:31 And that ref just, you could see the ref look at him and go, you can't fucking do that to me. Hey, if this was the umpire, maybe. If this was the line judge, possibly. But the head ref, you're going to have thrust in front of? No way. Throws the flag 15 first down. That's all she wrote.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Congratulations. Your first stop of the fucking game. Did a fucking happy dance. Just for future reference, if you think from a human standpoint, he did just get a sack on Patrick Mahomes in a division-round playoff game on national TV. He's been working his ass off to get to that point. So I don't mind the excitement no matter how far down you are. Is that flag thrown if he's the opposite way around?
Starting point is 00:21:09 No. If he doesn't put his dick directly in the ref's face, I don't think it's a problem. You saw the ref look at him. I wish there was another shot from the other side of the ref just going like, what the fuck are you doing here? Imagine if they had the ref cam on too. You saw other players celebrate.
Starting point is 00:21:28 They knew how to do it. I mean, he knew that was out of control. For years, you could do whatever you want. You just can't fuck your hips. I honestly think he didn't even realize that the ref was there. So excited that they got a little bit of success. Let's celebrate this. By the way, that celebration and that type success let's celebrate this by the way that that
Starting point is 00:21:45 celebration and that type of thing is contagious by the way that is something that can spark your team especially a huge sack like that i think he didn't even realize the ref was there until maybe one time like maybe halfway around and then he saw the ref and by that point you're already you're already cocked you're already cocked you gotta just let it go and then he goes for the other one and then he sees the thing i think it was just i think that ref stepped into it too by the way i think that ref walked into his way it was an interesting you gotta air pull out you gotta pull out. You can't. Hey. Pull out, man. If the ref is it, you got to quit. You got to quit.
Starting point is 00:22:29 It's a real thing. I told you this was going to be a good conversation. I told you at the very beginning. I said, hey, we got a good football conversation for you. We're all in pretty good spirits in here. The conversation was flowing swimmingly. You know what I mean? Swimmingly.
Starting point is 00:22:46 In fact, my brain was moving so fast with the boys in here, I am going to be exhausted when I get out of here tonight. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I'm going to be exhausted. And you know how I know that by tomorrow, I'm going to be completely rested, recharged, and re-ready to go? Because the mattress that I sleep on is the greatest mattress
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Starting point is 00:26:14 Do the math, Foxy. It's a lot. If 31,000 mattresses were donated and they have the 1 in 10 program, how many mattresses roughly have they sold? We're doing this right now. We are. You're a millennial. You just got out of school.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You just got out of the prestigious Michigan State. If they are only giving away a mattress, for one, every 10 that they sell, and they have given away 31,000 mattresses and counting, how many mattresses in total is that? Okay. Gut instinct. 310,000 mattresses.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Let's go! Atta boy! Don't give Michigan State credit for that, okay? I went to media school. We'll give my high school credit for that. I'll tell you what. I was excited to hear what answer was coming out there. There was a chance that he guesses completely completely wrong yeah yeah definitely there was a chance that you come nowhere near
Starting point is 00:27:09 right and i was ready for that moment but instead what is what did foxy do came through well you know why though my brain is working at such a good rate because you've been sleeping so damn well lisa strives to leave the world better than they found it. I already read that. No, no, I didn't. That doesn't stop with mattress donations. Together with the Arbor Day Foundation, Lisa plants one tree for every mattress they sell. So 310,000 trees and 31,000 mattresses donated
Starting point is 00:27:39 and begin because of Lisa. So you're not only sleeping on the best mattress around that arrives right at your door with none of the mattress store bullshit, you're also making the world a better place. That's got to feel good. That's got to feel good. Start 2019 well-rested.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And a great mathematician. Shout out, Foxy. Get $160 off a Lisa mattress at lisa.com slash McAfee. That's L-E-E-S-A dot com slash McAfee. By the way, slash there. Quite a debate in the
Starting point is 00:28:11 office earlier. Which one's forward slash? Which one's backward slash? Try the one. If it doesn't work, it's the other one. This one goes wide right to tight left. So is that a back slash? I believe that's a... Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Wide right to tight left. Yeah, I think that's a backslash. Backslash. L-E-E-S-A dot com backslash McAfee. Get $160 off the best mattress on planet Earth. That's beautiful. Foxy, your math there. Thought there was no fucking shot.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I appreciate that. That's beautiful. Foxy, your math there. Thought there was no fucking shot. I appreciate that. And also, I like the first version of our ad read more than the second version, if you know what I mean. You know how you said you have like your. I think I like the first one more. Well, I understand that. But that's because you're around me a lot. True.
Starting point is 00:29:01 These people that listen, they only hear me for a couple hours at a time. These big words, which, by the way, I didn't know. Science. That could be it also. A lot of big words in the second one. time. These big words, which by the way, I didn't know. Science. That could be it also. A lot of big words in the second one. A lot of big words. Lisa leveraged 30 plus years of experience and hundreds of hours of testing. My selling didn't qualify them
Starting point is 00:29:15 with three plus decades of knowledge. True. And all the trees. The Arbor Day. The fucking Arbor Day Foundation. Arbor Day, big time holiday. And then how about the 31,000 mattresses and counting from the 1 in 10 program? Yep.
Starting point is 00:29:29 If I don't read that second copy, you never get to show off that high school math of yours. That's a good point. You know what I mean? Yeah. Good for them. Back to the conversation. Hey, props to the Chiefs fans that saw me walking around the corridors and on the field. I had two.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Hey, Gorman, I was like, yeah, hey, all right, what's going on? And then suck sights following that. Jesus, Gorman. I was like, yeah, all right, what's going on? And then Sucksites following that. Jesus, God. Wrong show, wrong show. So for those of you that don't listen to Heartland Radio 2.0, Gorman calls pornos, porn sites, Sucksites. And I don't know if that's being an old man comment or what that is. That's what they are.
Starting point is 00:30:02 It's incredible. But with that being said, what I was originally getting to, the Chiefs not having to travel to Gillette Stadium I do think is a big deal because I think when you get in there, the eyes get wide open and you never know what's going to happen. Is this potentially going to be like Denver back whenever Peyton was there and Tom Brady had to travel to Denver and they lose and Peyton goes to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:30:26 I don't know. But I do know that nothing seems to shake Patrick Mahomes. Nothing seems to be too big for him. Every moment seems to be one that he's completely ready for, relaxed about, and ready to dominate. Tom Brady, the greatest of all time, showing up in your stadium in the AFC championship game is a moment that maybe could be one that rattles Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I'm excited to see how he handles it. This Chiefs team seems to be just an offensive juggernaut. But let's not assume that Belichick's not going to fucking figure it out. I mean, that's how the Patriots fans feel. That's honestly how you have to feel. Yeah, our team might not be great. Because I was just scrolling through. Because after that Phillip Rivers video went huge.
Starting point is 00:31:10 And it goes, 6,000 some retweets. By the way, you're welcome NFL films. 20,000 some retweets on that NHL ref. You're welcome NHL. I have yet to get a thank you from either of you motherfuckers. But that's neither here nor there. But I just, just started getting attacked.
Starting point is 00:31:25 By the way, anything going on in hockey? There's a few things. That ref's awesome. If he's doing more games, I'm watching more games. Snoop was awesome, by the way. Snoop was absolutely awesome. Snoop in the house. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:31:37 Field Yates really wants you and Snoop in the booth together. Yeah, respect Field Yates. I don't think I know who he is. He doesn't follow me, but I think he gets it. I like that a lot. Respect. I saw that tweet happen. Shout out to him.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Shout out to Snoop for changing the game. That is hockey talk. But the Patriots fans should feel as if they're – they feel like they're just going to figure it out, I assume, right? I mean, it's always been trust what we've done in the past every single year, and we're back here again in the AFC Championship. There could be 100 points scored in that game. It didn't – I don't think.
Starting point is 00:32:05 You think Bill Belichick's defense is going to let up a hundo to Andy Reid? I think it's going to be a fucking gun show, dude. I think it might be the highest scoring game of everything. What was the regular season? 44 something? It was 43-40. And I mean, I would agree with that. But our defense at the end of the season has really figured it out.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Even against the Chargers there, our defense looked good. Good. Looked real good. Yeah. Gilmore, I mean, it's going to come the Chargers there, our defense looked good. Good. Looked real good. Good. Yeah. Gilmore, I mean, it's going to come down to, I think, Gilmore Hill. They're going to have three dudes on Tyreek Hill, right? They're going to have Tyreek.
Starting point is 00:32:32 That's kind of the Patriots way. It's what Matt Patricia did to the Patriots whenever he came to Detroit. Yep. Is you take away their threat and make them play left-handed. That's what everybody says. Chess, not checkers. Make the other team play left-handed. That's what they're going to do to Tyreek Hill.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Then they just got to bank on somebody covering Travis Kelsey. And let's hope Patrick Mahomes doesn't get loose, but I'm excited to watch Andy Reed potentially. Shit in his leg. They shit down his leg. No, that's well, that's what you're saying,
Starting point is 00:32:59 but I'm excited to see Andy Reed to see if Andy Reid can kind of reverse the Andy Reid trend. We've been making fun of Andy Reid season for a long time now. It's why I thought the Colts had a real chance. This team did not seem like a team that Andy Reid season ended on. They seemed ready. They seemed legit. They seemed confident. Normally, Andy Reid's teams come out and they look like they're a little bit timid.
Starting point is 00:33:22 They look a little bit scared. This team doesn't have an ounce of fucking nerves in them at all, it seems like. But when Bill Belichick's on the other sideline, does that change things? I don't know. If I had to guess, I would imagine New England comes out, runs the ball, tries to
Starting point is 00:33:38 control the clock, and keeps the ball out of Mahomes' hands, not letting him get into a rhythm. Hey, Michelle, by the way, and James White, I mean, it's... They can beat you however the fuck they want. James White didn't even have a carry. Those were all catches.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Screen, screen, screen. Like 14 catches, right? We're saving him. We've been saving James White for quite a while now, too. Since before the Steelers game, I'd say. You've been saving him and not utilizing him, I think what a lot of people would say, but saving him is a great way to look at it if you're a Patriots fan
Starting point is 00:34:06 because that's exactly how you would look at it. Because it always seems, and a lot of people are mentioning this, Phillip Rivers might be the most unlucky quarterback in the history of the NFL. And it seems like Tom Brady, not lucky, but it seems like things always work out for Tom Brady. It seems like things always work out for Tom Brady. He gets one model pregnant, then he gets another model pregnant, and he chooses the one that's worth 100 million still 20 years later and he's in good terms with everybody by the way Malcolm Butler they're on the goal line against the Seattle
Starting point is 00:34:34 Seahawks Malcolm Butler comes up with a big pick Adam Vinatieri hits an impossible kick to send them to their first one I mean it's just it just, it seems like Tom Brady. Seems like 28-3, yeah, everything. Julian Edelman with that catch against the Falcons. It seems like everything always works out for Tom Brady. And I just don't know how Patrick Mahomes stops that. I don't know how Andy Reid stops that. Tom Brady is the most attractive dude possibly on earth, the most successful quarterback of all time,
Starting point is 00:35:03 and now he has a chip on his shoulder. This is my early prediction. I can change and will change with people telling me why, but I just don't see how the Patriots lose. I don't see how the Patriots lose. I hammered the Chiefs last night. Couldn't jump on that three points fast enough. Chiefs are plus three that you're open?
Starting point is 00:35:21 Minus three. The Chiefs are minus three? Which basically means Vegas gives three points to the home team, so it's basically a pick-em. Give me the fucking Chiefs are plus three. Minus three. That Chiefs are minus three? Yeah, which basically means Vegas gives three points to the home team, so it's basically a pick-em. Right. Give me the fucking Chiefs. Chip on the shoulder. So Patriots are plus three after both Julian Edelman
Starting point is 00:35:34 and Tom Brady go on interviews and say everybody thinks we suck. My God. You can get some nice teasers right now with the Pats on a lot of points. Oh, yeah. These goddamn Chiefs. I love them, too. I'm a big fan of the way they play football. They're fun.
Starting point is 00:35:47 They fly around. I like their fan base. Everybody was saying they were rude. I like that. Let's play a football. I like that. There's a different star every game. I mean, fuck.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Sammy Watkins is back. Yeah. Connor, what are you guys on the road this year? Doesn't matter. Hey, I just want to let you know, none of it matters. None of it matters. As much as people bash Dave Portnoy for being such a huge fan of the Patriots, he said preseason was over.
Starting point is 00:36:14 It's true. This is the fucking playoffs. That Patriots team, it looks like a completely different animal. It looks like a completely different animal whenever they get in there. My worst fear is they go to the Super Bowl, meet the L.A. Rams, and they just crush them. And then Bill Belichick just ascends into his final form because he's finally defeated the young, up-and-coming...
Starting point is 00:36:33 Sean McVay? Yeah, it's a nightmare. Rips off his mask, he's a lizard. They are talking as if Patrick Mahomes is the next one, right? And Tom Brady is the one. So there's even added motivation onto that guy with the turtleneck. He's going to be in Kansas City. It's going to be cold, so that turtleneck's coming back.
Starting point is 00:36:54 The black turtleneck underneath the dark blue. Strong. Yeah. Strong. It's a villain. It's a very strong villain. I was about to say the complete opposite. No, for him, it's strong.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I mean, we know who he is. He's a bit of a goober, but, I mean, that's strong. It's a very strong villain. I was about to say the complete opposite. No, for him, it's strong. I mean, we know who he is. He's a bit of a goober, but, I mean, that's strong. He's coming out there. I don't think Tom Brady's a goober at all. I mean, he eats avocado ice cream. He's in the best shape of his life. He throws football onto yachts. He rides camels in the offseason.
Starting point is 00:37:17 He's worth a billion dollars. And I don't know how you stop him. I don't know how you stop him. I was thinking this this morning as a Colts fan. Imagine having to deal with the Patriots dynasty for all these years when you were really good, and now it seems like you're going to be good again with the young core and everything,
Starting point is 00:37:32 and now you're going to deal with Patrick Mahomes for this whole time. Somebody tweeted, oh, great, the Colts have an offense that isn't good in the cold again. Somebody sent me that tweet, and that's a real possibility. 825 outside. The thing is, though, here in Indianapolis, it is so windy that you couldn't have a stadium outside. Literally, the RCA Dome was a necessity,
Starting point is 00:37:56 and so everybody talks about Chicago being windy and Cleveland being windy. Yes, Cleveland is very windy, but Indianapolis, it does not stop. It is windy 24-7, 365 here. Especially downtown because all the wind hits those buildings and it just goes in a focused fashion. It just shoots extra fast in between. Right where it's setting, if there was no dome, it would be 15 to 20 mile an hour faster than it is everywhere else. Every single day, too, because there's no to 20. Mount Arwitz. Mount Arwitz. Every single day. Than it is everywhere else.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Every single day, too, because there's no hills here. We got no hills. There ain't nothing stopping it. Whatever weather is coming through Illinois, it's coming through Indy next. It's just the way it goes. But with that being said, the future is very bright for the Colts. I'm excited to see the offense, but this fucking Patriots. Be ready for it.
Starting point is 00:38:43 You know, everybody's saying Gronk's not the receiver that he was. He's a great blocker, though. Gronk says Gronk's that. Watch. 13 catches for 180 yards against a Chiefs. Something like that'll happen. He's so unique, though. He doesn't have to go out and put out a 13-catcher performance. He can make two or three. They just have to be the right
Starting point is 00:38:59 catches in the right situation. Here's one. Here's one. Right after half, beginning of third quarter, the Chargers' Anthony Lynn at halftime is trying to salvage whatever. Okay, not our first half, boys. Got to get out to a quick start here coming out. We get the ball. It's got to be quick.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Three and out. Three and out punt. Then they get him a third down, and then they hit Gronkowski down the middle where he breaks seven tackles it seems like and picks up a quick 40 yards. That is just the dagger into the Chargers heart right there. Going for the kill by the way. Calling timeouts with
Starting point is 00:39:35 45 seconds left in the first half whenever they're on a second down because they thought they could get the ball back up. They were up 28 at this point. They're calling timeouts like, yeah, we want the ball back. We want another one. Julian Edelman returning punts, by the way. Nightmare.
Starting point is 00:39:50 He's incredible. I don't know how he has such a low center of gravity. I'm excited for the Chiefs, though. Tyreek Hill is a different animal. That is a guy that can really change things, but I just assume, just like the Patriots fans probably assume, that Bill Belichick will somehow figure it out. Yeah, I mean, that's what happens, but we'll see. It's going to come down to the last possession, just like the Patriots fans probably assume that Bill Belichick will somehow figure it out yeah I mean that's what happens but we'll see it's going to come down to the last possession
Starting point is 00:40:08 just like the first time so hopefully we're on the right side I don't know man and then in the NFC the NFC the fucking Cowboys come out quick everybody's like here we go Cowboys are going to make a game out of this America's team Jerry. Jerry Jones got a yacht last week. Let's see what happens this week. And then the Rams, just Todd Gurley and C.J. Anderson. Ran it down their fucking throat. C.J. Anderson looks like old Zito. C.J. Anderson looks like
Starting point is 00:40:35 old Zito. And he had a shirt on that said Cuddy, by the way. I don't know if you saw it. Sorry. It said Cuddy. And it said Bay Area slang for someone that isn't family but closer than a friend. So I think that's their take on Cousy, by the way. So I became a bigger fan of them. I'm like, yo, what up, Cousy?
Starting point is 00:40:51 Cousy. Cousy. Cousy. C.J. Anderson, though, comes out of nowhere. And that Los Angeles Rams team looks like they're a lot of fun. But then the fucking Saints team put a almost, I mean, it's a bullet in the Nick Foles legacy. They just, Alshon Jeffrey should have caught that ball. Yeah. Alshon Jeffrey owned it afterwards.
Starting point is 00:41:17 If Alshon Jeffrey was a kicker, all of Philadelphia probably wants to kill him. I don't know how they feel now, but Alshon Jeffrey made a lot of plays for them that sucks the way it ended. I guess he had cracked ribs too and stuff like that, but Nick Foles was playing good football yesterday. Nick Foles was playing really good football yesterday. After those 14 points, the Saints just literally put them in a vice, and it was
Starting point is 00:41:35 really... I don't want to say it was a boring game, but after that, it was just like... Eagles could do nothing on offense. You knew it was coming. Their defense really fucking held tight. The halftime line was Saints minus nine. Vegas thought everyone thought Saints were going to come back.
Starting point is 00:41:53 That Chargers-Patriots game felt like the longest football game in history. It felt like the longest football game in history. And then the Eagles get up 14-zip on the Saints. I'm like, oh, is this going to be just another blowout? Then we got a fake punt. Yep. Incredible distraction by Thomas Morstead, by the way. He didn't even move his feet back there.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Incredible distraction. Taysom Hill starts taking over the game. That Saints team, Sean Payton and that Saints team got some swag. It was Drew Brees' 40th birthday party last night, by the way. The guy from Key and Peele, Keegan, he was at the party doing shots off of an ice loo. I saw that from Will Lutz's IG story. Missed a 52-yarder, by the way, to go up two scores.
Starting point is 00:42:39 You're very thankful for that Lattimore pick if you're Will Lutz, but an incredible year by Will Lutz for the Saints. He's been doing very well. That Saints team with Sean Payton seems to have the same thing as the Patriots. Now, granted, the Patriots much more celebrated, much more victorious and shit like that, but watching that game, it felt as if Sean Payton was going to figure it out. It felt as if Drew Brees was going to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:43:03 When you were watching it, once the Eagles started not getting first downs on a regular basis and it started stopping, everybody's like, oh, here we go, the Saints are about to figure it out. It's almost like the wave just went completely over there. And I love Darren Revell correcting Sean Payton where he said 225. It's actually 201,000.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I love that type of motivation, by the way. I love that type of motivation. by the way. Oh, yeah. I love that type of motivation because a lot of people in the NFL, love of the game. Okay, sure, there might be a couple people on each team. There might be a couple people on each team that are playing strictly for the love of the game. But that kind of all loses its luster whenever the GM who's negotiating
Starting point is 00:43:40 your contract says, well, we're not paying you for the love of the game. What we're paying you for is this. But you also drop balls at this point and you take the wrong step on this one. You do this. It kind of loses its luster and becomes much more of a business whenever that starts happening.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Whenever your body starts being diagnosed like Pawn Stars. That is whenever it's no longer a game anymore. But the fact that he rolled in that money and was like listen here we go you want this three fucking games that saints team i thought was uh was a lock after hearing that personally after being in a locker room like i couldn't even imagine just walking out of the shower and our head coach is on a dolly what's up coach what the fuck is that? That can be mine. Hmm. Okay. Hey, boys, let's get the fuck to work here, huh?
Starting point is 00:44:28 Hey, offense, let's score some goddamn points. No punts this week. I'd like to be a part of that. I'm a little worried about Drew. What? It seems like his arm might be dying a little bit. There's a couple deep balls where he, like the first play of the game. They're breaking up.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Ted Gittin was open. The balls are breaking up. So that's a grip issue right i don't he does i'm sure he has small hands no he's got big shit hooks he does for a little guy he's got big hands but the ball was breaking up though so i don't know if that's squeezing too tight or what it is i don't think it's his arm technically because even on a ball that was breaking up he was still getting at 55 yards but i was with you there because tasem hill had a guy breaking up he was still getting at 55 yards but i was with you there because tasem hill had a guy yeah and he undershot him a little bit but if you look at the ball it was a duck you know what i mean could be indicative of like some arm
Starting point is 00:45:16 pain or something right anything that takes your focus off of what you're doing while you're doing it see for me i don't know if it's arm more so than hand for for me that's a hand thing you're either squeezing too tight or you're throwing it too hard i i mean i am a pretty successful nfl quarterback yeah so i think i could probably break this down but that seems more like a grip thing for the ball breaking up because it i was wondering the same thing when he under threw a taste of mill and then they showed the replay of it. And you look at the ball, and it was just like a wobble, like a crazy wobble, which is what Peyton, Peyton threw the most wobbly balls of all time at all times through the wobble. So maybe it is like something's happening there.
Starting point is 00:45:55 What if Drew goes to the glove? In the dome. What if Drew goes to the glove? Hey, Teddy, those fucking gloves really work, man. Peyton went to the glove. I think Tom Brady went to the glove there Hey, Teddy, those fucking gloves really work, man. Peyton went to the glove. I think Tom Brady went to the glove there for a little bit. Ben Roethlisberger went to the glove for a little
Starting point is 00:46:10 bit. It's if you're losing the grip on it a little bit, you go to the glove. I don't know why it happens, though. I honestly don't know why it happens. What about 14-0 down? Did you go, oh, this Philadelphia team, what a storybook. Anybody count them? I'm saying were you counting the Saints out at 14-0? I can't remember off the top of my head. I should have written it down.
Starting point is 00:46:26 There was a big play 14-0. Oh, it was the fake punt. That's what switched. That was the whole game right there. I don't think the Eagles have the offensive firepower to keep their foot on the throat there. I think you knew the Saints were going to climb back into that game. I'm intrigued by that Philadelphia Eagles team.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Intrigued. I love how Michael Bennett doesn't wear shoulder pads, by the way. I enjoy that, too. Get him a Dix, get the little kids going. He looks like he's wearing Vinatieri's shoulder pads. Plus, yeah, when then Bennett and Fletcher Cox go down on the same drive, that was troublesome.
Starting point is 00:46:57 This Eagles team is so intriguing because Carson Wentz got some big-ass zits on his neck. Yeah, I Saw that. That shit was freaking me out. Stress? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's young.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Two years in a row getting replaced? He's young. I mean, yeah, it's stress. He probably has a bunch of ulcers inside. There's probably a lot going on there. Carson Wentz is excited that they lost that fucking game. I would be. Outwardly, he can't because he lays down to bed at night.
Starting point is 00:47:24 And Carson Wentz might be a much better human than every human I've ever met in my entire life, including possibly Gandhi. If there was another Gandhi, old Gandhi, when he laid his head down at night, would wish bad things upon the new Gandhi. Mother Teresa, same fucking thing. If there was another Mother Tamara and Mother Teresa went to bed, she would wish ill will upon Mother Tamara. Not that something bad would happen, just not to take the throne of Mother Teresa. Carson Wentz, Mother Tamara.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Mother Tamara. If there was a Mother Nikki Foles, which is Carson Wentz, was drafted to become the face of the Philadelphia Eagles franchise. He did that. First year. Comes out, plays incredible. Yeah, he was an MVP.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Everything. Here we go. Here we go. Gets hurt. Everybody starts talking about the team collapsing because of how good they thought Carson Wentz was. Carson Wentz is incredible. This team's got no shot. Nick Foles does what Nick Foles did. Leads, wins the championship, Super Bowl MVP, press tour, parade, everything.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Carson Wentz, though, we're going to keep Carson and Nick Foles. We're going to keep them both because Carson's got to rehab. We have Nick Foles as a safety valve. It only costs us $10 million or something like that, or $8 million, $9 million, whatever it costs the Eagles this year. it only costs us 10 million or something like that or 8 million 9 whatever it costs the eagles this year so then carson once comes back plays well team doesn't do great though team doesn't do great plays well team doesn't do great he gets hurt nick foals comes in leads them right back into the playoffs just like he did the year before this is the guy that's supposed to be the face of the franchise hasn't been able to do what Nick Foles has done since going in there everybody's like well you got to get rid of Nick Foles because he lost to the Saints
Starting point is 00:49:09 in the dome in the division round of the playoffs you can't keep him you got to keep Carson Carson Wentz has got hurt back-to-back years his first two years in the NFL he hasn't been able to be the guy that takes the Philadelphia Eagles to the top although the Eagles have been to the top I'm so intrigued by it all I don't know what the fuck the Eagles do I the top, although the Eagles have been to the top. I'm so intrigued by it all, I don't know what the fuck the Eagles do. I have no idea what the Eagles do. All the reports coming out is the Eagles think they're going to get a good value for Nick Foles.
Starting point is 00:49:34 That's all they keep saying. They could, by the way. They could and they should, by the way. You've got all these young coaches getting hired now that are going to need some sort of offensive weapon. By the way, how the fuck does Adam Gase get that Jets job? How does Adam Gase get that Jets job? The Jets hate their fan base.
Starting point is 00:49:50 The Jets have to love the branding of their team as being like, yeah, we're miserable, we suck, that's kind of our thing, our fans like it, we're just not going to try to win. How do you watch what happened with the Dolphins down there and go, yep, we're going to put our future, our 20-year-old quarterback in this guy's hands? I have no idea how that guy gets that game. That division's a joke.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Then Cliff Kings, yeah, maybe it's because the Dolphins beat the Patriots on the Miami Miracle or whatever. That's probably why. And the Jets ownership's like, oh, well, you figured out how to beat the Patriots. That Jets had no idea that that was just one fluke play from a win. They have no idea. I don't know how Adam Gase gets that job. I do.
Starting point is 00:50:29 How? 18 called him. Who are you kidding? Had an hour-long discussion with the Johnson family. Peyton Manning got Adam Gase that gig? Yes. So Peyton Manning likes Adam Gase? Yeah, he endorsed him, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:40 What? Adam Gase has been riding off of that one year where he was assistant offense coordinator to Peyton Manning. Anybody who's ever watched Peyton Manning play football knows that Peyton Manning calls the plays. Peyton Manning runs the offense. Peyton Manning runs the practice. Peyton Manning runs everything.
Starting point is 00:50:58 He endorsed Adam Gase to get a gig in Miami. No, no, no. For the Jets. Did he get him his job in Miami? I'd assume he gets him his job in Miami? No, no, no. For the Jets. Did he get him his job in Miami? I'd assume he gets him his job in Miami. He does terrible down there. I assume they just blame Tannehill. They say Tannehill's a bad player. What do you want?
Starting point is 00:51:13 What a referral. That's four years ago. That's from four years. The last time Adam Gase was successful was like four or five years ago. Now he's getting a head coaching. Cliff Kingsbury incredibly attractive. Youngs. He sucked head coaching. Cliff Kingsbury, incredibly attractive. Youngs, he sucked at Texas. Watch him a car.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Give him a job. 35 and 40. Everyone just looking for the next McVay. That's all they're doing. If you sat, so like for instance, I sat ringside at a Bellator fight with McVay for three, four hours. You should get a job then. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:51:43 I think there's a chance I could apply for a head coaching gig in the NFL. Sean McVay has got to feel as if his dick is very large. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The LA Rams are now sole owners of Los Angeles. Correct. Sole owners of Los Angeles. The LA Rams are in the NFC Championship two years after arriving in Los Angeles. The Los Angeles Chargers just got spanked by the Patriots,
Starting point is 00:52:05 didn't even have their plane in an MLS stadium. The L.A. Chargers might as well start looking for a new home because no matter what happens this upcoming weekend with the Rams, L.A. is a Rams town. That's just what it is. And McVay, this young, handsome guy, has completely changed the way the entire NFL operates. Terrible coaches are getting offers just because they think
Starting point is 00:52:26 they could possibly become the new offensive guru, which is what Cliff Kingsbury is being touted as, this new offensive guru. Arizona Cardinals have Josh Rosen. Who knows how people think of that? They also have the number one pick, I think. They do. Which leads us to Kyler Murray.
Starting point is 00:52:42 He asked for $15 million. I heard that is not accurate. I heard that number was not accurate. It makes sense. I heard that conversation happened with the Oakland A's that they were talking about more money to keep him in baseball. The $15 million number, I think, came out from one person and then kind of just spread like a wildfire.
Starting point is 00:53:01 But I do believe he is looking for more cash. $15 million, million maybe i don't know but kyler murray's sources came out and said it's not 15 million we're not looking for 15 million but we are looking for more guaranteed cash in the 4.66 million if they would like us to stay in the baseball realm because kyler murray seems like a quarterback to cliff kingsbury could potentially turn into quite a stud there in arizona then they got josh rosen to potentially wheel and deal. I'm excited to see what happens in this draft all of a sudden.
Starting point is 00:53:29 And by the way, respect to Kyler Murray looking for more motherfucking money. You got all these old heads coming after him. It's business, man. You are worth exactly what somebody pays you. There is no overpayment. There is no underpayment. You are worth exactly what somebody's willing to pay you. That is the way it goes.
Starting point is 00:53:46 And if they can finagle another $6 million out of the Oakland A's, Moneyball, Billy Bean, take it. I loved it. There was talks that MLB was like, hey, pay him as much as you need to because the Heisman Trophy winner picking baseball over football is huge for the MLB. That's what I was going to say. I love that, that the MLB was feeling the heat, and they allegedly sent officials to go talk to him too.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Yeah, that's huge. Because whenever they make that offer to Kyler Murray for $4.66 million, and they draft him high, and they take the shot on him, Kyler Murray had not played a single snap in college football yet. Kyler Murray was still the backup to Baker Mayfield. A lot has changed since the last time we discussed. I referred to Pawn Stars earlier, but it's real. We are living in a new time than we were then,
Starting point is 00:54:31 Kyler Murray's family is saying. We are living in a new time than we were then. Kyler Murray became a star in an offense in less than a year. Kyler Murray became a Heisman winner in less than an entire calendar year. Kyler Murray became a top fivean winner in less than an entire calendar year. Kyler Murray became a top five pick in less than a calendar year. Hey, MLB, we're in a whole new world now. And y'all motherfuckers sell a lot of hats.
Starting point is 00:54:57 So let's go ahead and have a little bit of a discussion here about more cash. The fact that anybody's going after him for that, like those motherfuckers need to get run off the internet. Those people shouldn't even be allowed on the goddamn internet. If you're him him it's whatever sport do you think you could get a second contract in because easily baseball yeah but what if he can't hit i don't know bro what if he can't hey you know what you can't hit the fucking baseball there was a baseball player that was drafted who threw 90 kid gets in the mlbB, can't hit a strike. What was his name? Now he's a tight end for the Ravens. Hayden Hurst. Hayden Hurst threw 95 or something like that.
Starting point is 00:55:30 For some reason, even with a fucking bird box fucking blindfold on, can't hit the strike zone. Whatever it is. Is it bird box? Can't hit the strike zone. He has a complete mental... To make it in baseball, I feel...
Starting point is 00:55:48 Now, granted, if I focused on baseball for a year, I think I would be able to be a Major League Baseball player. Oh, boy. I think I could play for some Major League Baseball. If I got the testosterone gum that they're all fucking chewing and did the whole thing and actually took batting practice... I mean, I saw a 91-mile-an-hour fastball. No fucking problem.
Starting point is 00:56:04 First, I saw a 93-mile-an-hour slider down here at the Indians. Fucking no problem. But what if he can't see it? What if he can't see it? What does he do then? It's also a much different life playing minor league baseball than it is being a first-round NFL draft pick. I don't think he's going to be in the minors too long, though.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah. He seems like a freak athlete. Well, the A's don't have a super deep system. Especially after this, if he were to go, he seems like a guy that would get fast-tracked very quickly and would probably be playing for them after the All-Star race. I want him in the NFL
Starting point is 00:56:36 strictly for the fact that it makes the NFL draft so interesting. The MLB could have two Heisman winners in it next year. That's something that's very interesting to think about. Tim Tebow, I guess he can see it, by the way. Everybody's saying he can see the ball, and he's got power. He's done. You think he's done baseball?
Starting point is 00:56:50 He got married. He's done now. About to have sex. I couldn't even fathom Tim Tebow as an athlete after fucking. He's going to be incredible. I think it's going the other way. He's only ever focused on sports, and now he's got sex in his life. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:57:04 I think he's only going to get better. i think it's only going to make him better i think the same thing happened with rory as soon as rory got married he fucking fell off the map yeah but also whenever he became a bachelor and started slinging that dick around he became the best in the golf in the world yeah and and that was just having sex with the first time he has sex. Think about that. Think about, go back to the time in your life. Dig deep, boys, to the first time you ever fornicated. You felt like you could take over the world the next day.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Tim Tebow has already taken over the world, and then he's going to have that feeling with what, a Miss Universe? After he marries her, he's going to probably impregnate her and feel like he's on top of the world again. Tebow is going to be in the majors, I would assume, next year. So you're buying the virgin angle that he is a virgin. Yeah, I think it would have came out by now. I think Tebow is revered as such a positive, clean image. In the world we live in now,
Starting point is 00:58:06 somebody would want to fucking attack him and take him down, no matter how Bible-banging. Without a doubt. Somebody would want to take him down, and nothing has ever come out about him. Everybody has ever... What? He's out of record for saying that.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Yeah, exactly. I was about to say, nothing has ever come out about him, except for Anthony DiGilio, who just sat back and libeled and slandered the guy. Are we thinking NFL comeback or no? No, no, no. What? He can't throw a football.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I was going to say, if he comes that hard, maybe. But he can hit a baseball. We've seen videos of him hitting baseballs. I think there's going to be two Heisman guys in the MLB next year. That's got to feel good for the Major League Baseball world. I don't know if they sell tickets because of that. I don't know if more people watch the games because of that. But just strictly as an ego thing,
Starting point is 00:58:53 they've got to feel good that baseball is plucking some of football's best players. I'd watch it more if they were involved in the game. If Tim Tebow played for the Mets and that game's on TV, I'm probably stopping to watch it. Yes, for sure. At least the first 30 games. People that would never watch the Mets will watch that game's on TV. I'm probably stopping to watch it. Yes. Oh, for sure. At least the first 30 games. People that would never watch the Mets will watch that game. ESPN knows it, too.
Starting point is 00:59:07 That's why Tim Tebow is shoved down our throats for so long. Because anytime Tebow's on TV, this human that goes and does, what are those things called? Circumcisions in Thailand and Filipino. And he lives his perfect thing and wins and does everything right. He saved two lives as well. Yeah, he was Jesus there for a while. Every time ESPN, yeah, he did.
Starting point is 00:59:26 He was literally Jesus there for a while, and ESPN knew it. Anytime he was on TV, numbers went up. If he was to play for the Mets and be put on TV, I would watch. Kind of what makes me go snip some foreskins overseas. Yeah. A lot of good things happening to this guy. When you're associated, again, Todd. Hey, when you're associated with this team,
Starting point is 00:59:45 don't be touching any kids' dicks. No, I mean, it's medicinal purposes. Think about this, though. Think about this for a second. The NFL draft. Look at the order it's in right now. Arizona's number one. Maybe he goes there.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Maybe he doesn't. If he doesn't. I think he does, by the way. If he doesn't, you've got San Francisco at two, don't need a quarterback. Jets at three, don't need a quarterback. Oakland at four, don't need a quarterback. Yeahets at three, don't need a quarterback. Oakland at four, don't need a quarterback. Huh?
Starting point is 01:00:06 Yeah, I'm not sold that Gruden sold on Carr. I agree. He's told him in his mic'd up things like love you man and stuff like that. But once you go watch that film, he's going to remember that he cried during a game. But they paid him a lot of money. That means nothing. That was before Gruden got there. I don't see Kyler Murray being a Gruden guy either.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Why? Gruden's more of a pocket passer guy. Will Greer guy. Huh? Will Greer, West Virginia guy. Sat out a terrible bowl game. He better go in the first round. I'm going to fucking murder him.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Wasn't there a Gronk Rosen trade rumor this morning? Yeah, there was a Gronk rumor. Gronk's retiring. Yeah, he's not going to. Gronk's retiring. He's going to take any job that I was potentially up for. Same with Greg Olson. But where it gets interesting is five is Tampa Bay, B.A.
Starting point is 01:00:51 He loves. Six is the Giants. He says he loves Jameis, man. You've got to remember, everybody's full of shit. Everybody is full of shit. Nick Saban said whenever he was at LSU, he wasn't going to Miami, and then he promised he wasn't going to Alabama. That's Saban, though.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Bruce is a better guy than Saban. Everybody, Bruce said he was retired. Bruce said he was retired because his kid turned 40. I love Bruce Arians. That was a Carson Palmer retirement. I love Bruce Arians. I absolutely love Bruce Arians. But there ain't no way that he would go to Tampa Bay not knowing what we're going to do with the next draft
Starting point is 01:01:23 and not say that he loved Jameis. That's just something he has to do going in there. We're talking to Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio later today. I'll be excited to hear what he has to think about all that. But I do believe Arizona, Kyler Murray, you pick him up just so you have some trade bait, no matter what.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Regardless. I guarantee Kingsbury loves that idea. Loves it. I don't think Kingsbury will be pulling the trigger on the draft. You guys giving up on Rosen, huh? Well, I mean, I guarantee Kingsbury loves that idea. Loves it. I don't think Kingsbury will be pulling the trigger on the draft. You guys giving up on Rosen, huh? Well, I mean. Everybody in the building here. So I think what the thinking there in Arizona is, if bringing in Kingsbury,
Starting point is 01:01:54 is that Goff had such a terrible first year with Jeff Fisher, and then they brought in an offensive guy, and now Goff is doing great. If they bring in Kingsbury as an offensive guy, maybe the same goes for Rosen. And you know, that is a smart thought because McVay was a little bit younger, could connect with golf a little bit.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Rosen, remember, was in a hot tub in his dorm room just a couple years ago. Somebody younger that can reach him is probably the right idea there. Cliff Kingsbury, by the way, $150,000 USC got for that, for him working there for two days. Bro, these universities continue to win. Non-profit
Starting point is 01:02:28 by the way. None of them make any money obviously. They got $150,000 for Cliff Kingsbury. Good for them. Good for them. The NFL's a crazy place. I think it's Saints I almost said Chiefs there.
Starting point is 01:02:46 I don't even know why I thought it. I don't even know why I thought it. Go with your gut. I think it's Saints-Patriots. I think it's Saints-Patriots. That's the one I don't want to see. Why? Really?
Starting point is 01:02:56 I want to see a rematch of that Chiefs-Rams game that was absolutely fucking electric. It was. I got to be there. Obviously, I got to be there for that game and it was a magical thing right there in Los Angeles. Los Angeles definitely wants the Rams in there. I don't know how that $201,000 with the Lombardi Trophy
Starting point is 01:03:16 still sitting in the middle of their locker room is the greatest piece of motivation for a lot of those guys in the locker room. You can say that bulletin board material matters. It doesn't. You can say that love of the game matters at this point. It does. It does. But the thing that really talks to people, especially in the NFL,
Starting point is 01:03:36 you've got a lot of people coming from some very terrible places. You've got people coming from a lot of bad neighborhoods. You've got people trying to feed a lot of things. That money just – all ones, by the way. All ones. Yeah, it makes it look a lot of bad neighborhoods. You got people trying to feed a lot of things. That money just, all ones, by the way. All ones. Yeah, makes it look a lot more. Great play by Sean Payton having all ones. Because I've seen a couple of those things picked up and thrown in adult ballets.
Starting point is 01:03:55 And I'll tell you what, there ain't more magical time to be alive than being the only Caucasian fellow in adult ballet where you got three of your friends making it rain more money than your dad made your entire life growing up on a couple female ballerinas who have no interest in anything that's white but I think that is an incredible motivation I think this is the year for Drew Brees it seems like the
Starting point is 01:04:19 Drew Brees destiny is a real thing Diggs and I think Sean Payton is one of those coaches where he'll figure it out. I think he'll figure it out. Although I like McVay a lot, man. I'm excited. They got it right. I mean, the champion AFC and NFC championship games have got it right.
Starting point is 01:04:35 And I'm excited to see what happens. Defense doesn't win in this playoff series. Offense is all of them. Yeah, but I think defense is gone. I think you have to have a stop, though. I think you have to get some stops and that's where the defense, the run the ball thing, Chuck Pagano got crushed because he was
Starting point is 01:04:49 just preaching. Congrats to Chuck though. Congrats to Chuck and the Chicago Bears D coordinator. He is going to do amazing things there. I mean, when he was with the Ravens there for a little while, he did great. He's got Khalil Mack as a weapon. What would he say about Khalil Mack? I'm curious. Italians do very, very well in Chicago as long as they pay their taxes. True.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Italians, by the way, all got run to Chicago after getting kicked out of Pittsburgh, New York, Philly, Pittsburgh, Ohio, and then they ended up in Chicago. Well, Chuck got ran out of everywhere else and here he lands. He got run out of Baltimore, Cleveland, Indy,
Starting point is 01:05:22 and now he's in Chicago. I just can't wait for the questions to come back. He got the same push as all the Italians in the history, and all the Italians have thrived in Chicago. By the way, Italian Club shirt's coming out soon. Join the Italian Club. I think Chuck will do very well there. I'm excited to hear Chuck
Starting point is 01:05:38 back in this stadium. I know, I can't wait. He's very relatable. Pat, I took the job because we got Khalil Mack. Have you seen it? I'm going to be a head coach in about a year. I'm going to look like a goddamn genius. What are you guys running?
Starting point is 01:05:53 Cover two? Who gives a fuck? Khalil Mack, just fucking go get the quarterback. We'll sit some guys in coverage. We'll see what it is. It's all going to be quick play, quick play, quick play. Mitchell Trubisky, I know nothing about him. Couldn't even guess.
Starting point is 01:06:06 I know he's not Andrew Luck, but that means nothing to me because I got Khalil Mack. Whenever that job came up, he had to just be like, I mean, I wanted to be a head coach, but that defense was incredible without me there. That defense is probably the biggest turnaround in the NFL, huh? That Chicago Bears defense from one year to the next? All those young players are starting to fucking come into their own.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Now, if you want to be a little negative Nick about it, if Chuck makes that defense look bad. Yeah, it's not good. It's not good. That might be hard to do. They got Akeem Hicks, Eddie Jackson. They got playmakers. If you got somebody that can rush the passer,
Starting point is 01:06:45 your defense is a whole different animal. The Colts had Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis for all those years. Nothing else mattered. Nothing else mattered. If you got 93 and 98 coming off the corners, corners don't have to be great because you don't have to cover for long. The run defense doesn't have to be great because Peyton and the offense will get them ahead.
Starting point is 01:07:05 If you have somebody that can rush the passer or it's a whole different ballgame, hey, they're tough to come by, man. Tough to come by. $90 million guaranteed. It's a lot, man. It's tough to come by. That's why they get paid so much. What were you going to say?
Starting point is 01:07:15 I would like to do something I don't normally do on here. I think Cleveland did a great job. I think Cleveland got it right with their head coaching hire and their coordinators. Freddie Kitchens and who? Todd Monken and Steve Wilkes. Okay, Steve Wilkes had a terrible run as a head coach in Arizona. Awful. Not sure it went well at all.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Is he a good D coordinator, though? Yeah, that's how he got the Arizona job. And then Monken was, quote-unquote, by people who say these things, one of the better offensive coordinators in the league. Freddie Kitchens and Baker seem to have a tight relationship, too. That one video that came out of him rubbing Baker's thing, and then Baker calls him an idiot, I love that. Because to me, the term idiot is one of the biggest terms of endearment you can have.
Starting point is 01:07:55 When I call somebody an idiot, it's like, this is the biggest compliment I can bestow upon you, is that I think you're a fucking idiot. You make me laugh, you're those types of things. Good for Freddie Kitchens. Good for the Cleveland Browns. I think the Buccaneers assembled quite a coaching staff. Somehow, the Jets got worse with Gase.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Get rid of Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles ends up D coordinator for the Buccaneers. That is a whole other animal. They also got Clyde Christensen down there, who is the quarterback whisperer that you have not heard of. You have no idea who Clyde Christensen is. He's the man behind Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck. Now, granted, we've got to put Tannehill on there too, I guess.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Yeah, I mean, Tannehill was a college-wide receiver, and he started in the NFL for, what, seven years? Still starting, by the way. Clyde Christensen, though, great locker room guy. He's a morale guy. He's a friend of ours, mine and Gorman, very close friend of ours. He was with the Colts whenever we were here at the way. Clyde Christensen, though, great locker room guy. He's a morale guy. He's a friend of ours, mine and Gorman. Very close friend of ours. He was with the Colts whenever we were here at the beginning. He got run
Starting point is 01:08:49 out of town due to his loyalty being questioned by the GM. He was here for 20 years. That's unbelievable. Showed up every day, ready to work. 5 a.m. every day. Won a Super Bowl. No big deal. Questioned your loyalty. His loyalty got questioned. He got run out of town here. Great.
Starting point is 01:09:05 But he's at Tampa. They got Byron Lefwich down there, too. I love Byron Lefwich. A.Q. Shipley told me that Byron Lefwich has an incredible brain for football, and he's very excited to see what he does there. And with Clyde Christensen helping him out, I think that Tampa Bay Buccaneers team could be prone for success, but they're in the same division as that goddamn Saints team.
Starting point is 01:09:26 That's going to be a tough go for sure. I'm excited to see how this turns out. I can't wait to wishy-wash on my picture at least three times, but I am all in on the – I have a question for you. I'm not even going to question. Tom Brady, with that – By the way, the lady interviewing him
Starting point is 01:09:46 might have been three foot four. Yeah, that's her name. She was short. Tracy Wolfson. Yeah, yeah. She was holding that mic like this. She was literally... It was a straight arm up and down.
Starting point is 01:09:56 And he just... I know everybody thinks we suck. It'll be fun. We'll see. What a sly fucking warning shot to every human on earth. That's tough to think that they're going to lose. Plus 350 to win the Super Bowl. I hammered it.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Right now, the Patriots. It's terrible. It goes Saints, Chiefs, and then Pats and Rams are tied. Everybody thought the Chargers were going to do it. No. Everybody thinks the Chiefs are going to do it, I assume. I like that Chiefs team a lot, too. I like that Chiefs team a lot, too. I like that Chiefs team a lot.
Starting point is 01:10:29 But, man, I just don't know how you doubt that old bastard up in the box, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, Josh McDaniels. Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi doing a fucking karaoke. Rich the Craft in the ho-ho. How about Craft? Craft looked like he didn't know the words, by the way. It was a little weird.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Craft doesn't know much at this point, right? Bro, if I got a billion dollars, man, who gives a fuck if I know the words or not? I'll let the guy sitting next to me sing it because he wrote it and did sing it. By the way, jacket off for the Crafts. Love that. Up in the box.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Love it. Toasty upper. How was the box? I was going to say, was your box toasty? How was the box in the Chiefs? Yeah, Gorman was up in the box? Love it. Toasty upper. How was the box? I was going to say, was your box toasty? How was the box in the Chiefs? Yeah, Gorman was up in the box with old Jimmy I. A little quiet, a little quiet most of the time. How many people in there?
Starting point is 01:11:14 10 to 12. 10 to 12 people. Is there seating? Yeah, seating. Stadium seating right there. Nice leather chairs. Inside, outside. Food.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Hold on, hold on, hold on. We'll get to the food. Is there a seating? Is there like a hierarchy? okay this is where jim hersey no it just there's two seats that you don't mess with and then and then fall in behind it's him and his ladies no just him in an empty seat next to him okay you don't screw with me and he you know he gets he gets the first aisle seat and the first row and then leave the left of them open okay nobody in that row. So everybody just kind of fills in around him.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Yeah, yeah. Okay. The closer you are to him, the more important, or is it like just get in how you fit in? Yeah, get in how you fit in. Okay. So there's food obviously catered in there? Enough to choke a horse. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Horses are known to be good deep throaters, take those things down. What type of food is there? Prime rib? Barbecue from Kansas City? Well, it was barbecue-themed, but they did have barbecue turkey in there. They had some pizzas from a couple of places that they were all happy about to try the Kansas City pizza. But mostly it was just all – Kansas City pizza?
Starting point is 01:12:17 I don't know. They threw in a couple four pizzas there. Does he have a chef that comes and does all the catering? No. You kind of put in advance what they like. You know what I mean? So his people will say, okay, let's get the turkey. Let's get the chicken.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Let's get barbecue. Who's cooking for him, though? The Kansas City people? Yeah, Kansas City. Okay, so Vinatieri would never eat out on the road. No? Vinatieri would never in a million years eat out on the road. Just in case he gets poisoned?
Starting point is 01:12:42 Ever. Yeah, he was like, I am never going into a restaurant. I have no idea what that chef has on the game tomorrow. I have no clue about anything. Because all he's got to do is just give him something to give him the runs. It doesn't have to kill him. It just put a little Visine in the food. It's over.
Starting point is 01:12:56 So Vinatieri told me, I never went out in any cities where he went to. I never went to any restaurants. I never did anything. I would always just eat in the hotel, assuming that the hotel chefs are monitored too, right? Because that could be a whole different animal. It's very interesting that Jim Irsay is just letting some random Kansas City Chiefs stadium people just... Rarely eats.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Rarely eats at a game. Really? So that's for everybody else. Rarely eats at a game. Home games, he's got a chef. The chef comes in. He plants out all the food and everything. So Lucas, on away games, rarely eats.
Starting point is 01:13:27 I mean, maybe he'll sample something if somebody says, hey, this is good. I wonder if it's because he got visined one time. Jim Ironside's got the runs. Let me know what's going on. I think something was in the soup. Hey, had a nice, I'll tell you about the night before the game. Had a nice dinner for a bunch of people, about 20-some-odd people there. Had the TVs on, on a loop dinner for a bunch of people, about 20 some odd people there. Had the TVs
Starting point is 01:13:45 on, on a loop playing the Texans playoff win. Had a foosball table in the corner. Okay, this is at a restaurant? Had a ping pong table in the other corner. Yeah, had a nice little party leading up to the game. So he rents out half the restaurant. It was the hotel
Starting point is 01:14:01 and they had a ballroom. So he just said, yeah, give me the ballroom, and I'm inviting people down there. The best Kansas City barbecue, that was Chris Ballard's, is the one who said, hey, if you're going to get. Chris Ballard comes from Kansas City. Right, if you're going to get. So they, I mean, again, just the spreading.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Chris Ballard invited you to this dinner? No, no, I had work to do. Anybody from, not really, not for the game, not really much to do. I like where your head's at. Well, if that's what Ballard told Jim Irsay, I had work to do. Anybody from, not really, not for the game, not really much to do. I like where your head's at. That's what Ballard told Jim Irsay. I love that. I wish I could come, boss. A lot of work to do.
Starting point is 01:14:32 We're going to cut a couple people before the game starts tomorrow. Who all was invited there? Anybody from football sides or is it just Jim Irsay's personal friends? Yeah, I mean, not football side, no, because it's kind of, you remember when they're out in team meetings and all that stuff that happens the night before the game. So, no, it's, not football side, no, because it's kind of, you remember, when they're out in team meetings and all that stuff that happens the night before the game, so no, it's nobody from football. So like David Thornton's not going?
Starting point is 01:14:51 No. No. See, he was invited in London to the castle. They had some fucking castle dinner. Oh, wow. Yeah, they went to some castle. The big old turkey legs and shit? Yeah, they had to like, it was like a Game of Thrones looking, I don't watch Game of
Starting point is 01:15:02 Thrones, but they had like a Game of Thrones. That's the coolest thing of all time. Yeah, and DT got to go, and I'm just sitting at the fucking hotel, me and Vinatieri like, why can't we fucking go to this game? Why can't we go to this goddamn? And DT was like sending us pictures. David Thornton used to play for the Colts and the Titans. Now he's director of player relations engagement.
Starting point is 01:15:19 He's in between front office and locker room. He's great at the job, by the way. Connects to a's his job. He's a great, great at the job, by the way, connects to a lot of players. He's kind of a motivating factor. Like, Hey, do this,
Starting point is 01:15:29 do this, whatever, whatever. But he was at the, I would assume he, I thought he was going to this dinner. To be honest, I thought DT and I was about to send a text.
Starting point is 01:15:36 I was about to send a text to DT telling him to stop sneaking into fucking. I didn't see him. Okay. So good, good barbecue. Was it served to you or was it buffet style? Buffet style, believe it or not, which is, you know, unlike people who haven't had a buffet style thing.
Starting point is 01:15:54 But, yeah, it was brought in from, I can't even remember. It was Jim or Nick's or something like that. And incredible. I mean, anything you wanted barbecue style. Average age in there? Oh, well, there was family, you know, 35. Did you dominate on the ping pong table? I did, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Nobody was taking it. I couldn't play for anybody. Get one of those fucking antique rich guys. I'll give you a fucking 20. Let's play. Hey, fun fact. Ursae not bad at foosball. Really?
Starting point is 01:16:18 Not bad at foosball. Does he do a spin or is it? He doesn't have a big spin. More of a set up, slow guy that strikes at the end. I don't know why, but I'm not surprised by that. I just envision him as being a great foosball player. Not great, but he knew what he was doing. The fucking vape.
Starting point is 01:16:34 I got my goalie. I wasn't a big foosball player when I was a teenager. I played soccer overseas. I played in france a couple times and all that shit and we got snowed in in this one french soccer club and there was our our team versus their junior team but we got snowed in we couldn't leave for like a day so we ended up hanging out in like their lobby of their uh club basically foosball was their game of choice over there watching these little french fucks play this foosball game i think it deterred me from playing it ever again they had like set plays that they
Starting point is 01:17:09 would run like this back guy would hit it up to the front guy pass it back yeah it was unbelievable i had no idea that was strategy involved oh yeah i started spitting shit me too yeah i was the first one to play against the french i'm like listen america i know what i'm gonna do to you in this game never played my entire life. I got smoked. He moved all those little wooden fucking things on that metal thing in probably three minutes. It was like me just picking up the ball, dropping it
Starting point is 01:17:34 in there just three times. I love baseball. You love it? We played for like five hours when we were in Nashville last time. I used to have one in my kitchen in college. You got to call if you're spinning or not. A lot of people don't like spinners. Yeah, it's against the rules. But it depends on where you're playing at.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Street rules or whatever. Did he bring in, he brought in the foosball and the ping pong? Oh, yeah. That's good for him, man. Yeah, so we got to have something to do. Any special guests? Not really, no.
Starting point is 01:17:59 I mean, there was a couple from Indy that are friends of his, you know, longtime family friends and stuff that came in, made the trip. But there was also people driving in. The weather was awful. I mean, it was like 12 hours to drive from Indy to KC for some people, you know, I was hearing about.
Starting point is 01:18:11 But a lot of the front office went. Some of them went on a charter. They were chartering two planes. One of the planes couldn't take off. So it's like 50 people, 50 plus people had tickets ready to go to the game. Couldn't go to the game unless they get in their car and want to drive overnight to go see it. It's one of those. The weather was awful. It was wet, snow, heavy.
Starting point is 01:18:30 It was bad. You got to go on Jim Irsay's plane, though. That one got to take off. That one got to take off. It's a nice plane. You get on that plane. It looked nice. I was on it one time to fly up to Michigan for my man Zerlon Tipton's funeral.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Rest in peace to Tip. That guy was a lunatic of a man. He ended up shooting himself, by the way. There's a little message for you with guns. Let's not put them in our gym bags. Throw the gym bags down on the ground. Reach in to grab something and shoot ourselves. That's what happened to Zerlon Tipton.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Terrible. Absolutely terrible. Good friend of mine, too. Really good friend of mine. That was the first time I was ever on her stage jet, though. So he flew us up to Michigan for the funeral, flew us back. And the flight attendant lady was so nice. Very nice. They had my goddamn
Starting point is 01:19:15 name on like a menu. It was insane. I assume the same thing for this? Absolutely. But the seating arrangement, though, you gotta... There we go. So what about the hierarchy in the plane? Well, here's the seating arrangement. If your last name's Ursae, you can sit wherever you want, obviously, right? So you're on the plane.
Starting point is 01:19:31 You just kind of stand. At least I do. I stand there because I'm not going to get comfortable, sit down in the seat, and have one of the daughters come in and go, hey, what are you doing? You said they never fly all together. No, no, no, no. By the way, I never thought of this. Just like the Designated Survivor. Oh, yeah, yeah, no. By the way, I never thought of this. Just like the designated survivor.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The designated survivor, the show that you talked about. Wow. Ursae never flies the whole family together. That would have to be a real thing if you're a billionaire family. Yeah, because if you all go down, it goes to the courts. So somebody has to survive. It's insane.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Whenever he said it to me, it was a wow moment for me, too. No, never fly together for me too. No, never fly together. Makes sense. Wow. That makes so much sense. Where'd you end up sitting on the couch in the back? I was right in the,
Starting point is 01:20:10 I had, I had great seats. I went, I went, as soon as you walk on the plane immediately to the right, like right next to the cockpit, the door was separating. That was it.
Starting point is 01:20:18 And the big dog sit in the back. There's a little bit of a lounge area there. So I was just like, you know, anytime I go on that thing, where do you want me? First time, or say seen you in a while? Uh i saw him a couple weeks ago i mean you know i in the last year i haven't seen him that much because i came from nashville but yeah since i've been here for a month and a few weeks i've seen him three times that was one
Starting point is 01:20:36 of them yeah he's excited to see you yeah it's fun it's fun especially leading up to this thing and he thought you know hey we got a chance. Did they play cards on the flight? No. The TVs are on. You got to listen. Some people throw the iPods in. I just think of him just vaping. Always a movie with Jim.
Starting point is 01:20:54 See, there's different TVs. You can watch a different one up on the front end and he can in the back. What movie did he watch? I don't remember, but he always puts a movie in. You got Wi-Fi up there? Always. Great Wi-Fi. Why is it still 10,000 feet? Why is it still 10,000 feet?
Starting point is 01:21:04 Somebody sent it to us the other day i can't remember what the fuck it was it sounds like a lie whoever that person yesterday i tweeted uh my trends every trending topic in america was about football every single one of them except for the gia whoever that is uh spanish yeah yeah to him the g yeah you get it every single one was an NFL trend. I was like, the NFL just dominates Twitter. I had a bunch of little fucking punks like, well, it's tailored to you. And I was like, no, I turned that off specifically so I know what everybody else is thinking.
Starting point is 01:21:35 And this guy goes, no, I know what it is. So I went in and screenshotted the picture of me turning off the tailored to you. And they go like, oh, well, you probably just changed it. I was like, shut the fuck up. It's amazing how the NFL is still the biggest dog in the yard. It really is. By far. Whenever the NFL is happening, it is the biggest dog.
Starting point is 01:21:51 It takes over the whole world. Somebody sent me a screenshot of Ireland's trending topics. It was like nine of the top ten was like Phillip Rivers, Chargers, Brady, Patriots. It's just the greatest game on earth. And one of the owners just so happens to be a friend of yours. That's a pretty fucking cool thing. Yeah, it's just the greatest game on earth. And one of the owners just so happens to be a friend of yours. That's a pretty fucking cool thing.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Yeah, it's really cool. He got for the brand swag. He liked it. Congratulations, as I told you off the air. He said, thank you, big time. Can't wait to wear it. But when I gave it to him for the brand stuff, T-shirt, sweatshirt, he was kind of suited up.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I thought he'd be a little more casual going on the plane like I've seen him before. It's a business trip. Yeah, so he was all suited up. He didn't put it on, but he was very, very, and said, yeah, I'm going to take a picture. I'm going to put this on, and I'll let Pat know. I am excited for that because every picture that hits the internet of Jim Irsay, normally not a good one,
Starting point is 01:22:34 this one's going to be a great one. For the brand. You know me. I'm an idiot on social media. This is when I'm working for the club. This is over five years ago, six years ago. We're in Jacksonville, and he picked up a hot dog. He picked up a hot dog in the owner's suite on a road game,
Starting point is 01:22:50 and we were like joking. Such a great, this is a good phone. They were kind of discolored a little bit, you know what I mean? So we were like, I don't know if we're going to eat that right there. So he picks one up and kind of looking at it like, you know, kind of give a funny look like, what is this? So I take a picture of it, and I'm kind of new to Twitter. I don't know how we're going to eat that right there. So he picks one up and kind of looking at it like, you know, kind of give a funny look like, what is this? So I take a picture of it, and I'm kind of new to Twitter. I don't know how it works and stuff.
Starting point is 01:23:09 And I'm like, yeah, snap a picture of it. I'll throw it to Twitter. And all of a sudden it's on. Everywhere. It's like, what are you doing? What's up with the thing? And I'm like, oh, shit. During the game, I'm an employee of his, and I go, well,
Starting point is 01:23:22 let me talk to the CEO first and let him know what I did before I go to Jim. And I'm like, hey, I took a picture of Jim here, and then I put it up on social media, and I really kind of think I fucked up here. And he's like, yeah, so I took the owners there. I'm like, Jimmy, I, well, parts I kind of screwed up. What happened, brother? I said, well, where that picture I took, I put it on social media. I thought it was funny. Now everybody's taking shots and hey, this, that, or the other.
Starting point is 01:23:48 You just don't do that. It wasn't supportive. It was funny for me and my friend, I thought, at the time. Yeah, you had very little followers. No, and I was just like, you know, no, very little followers.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Didn't know what the hell it was. So you took this photo right here? Yeah. Yeah. What did he say? Well, brother, we got to live and learn. He wasn't pissed, but he's like, live and learn.
Starting point is 01:24:06 You know, we got to be careful, more careful. And I didn't know if I want that. It's not a bad picture, but yeah, we probably shouldn't have it. I'm like, oh, okay. And I'm like, yeah, I'll get rid of it. No, no, it's fine. Just don't do it again. You know, it was like that.
Starting point is 01:24:17 But I felt terrible the whole day. I mean, I was like, I don't know if I'm going to get hammered for this. You can make so many good memes with this pic. At least you didn't post a photo of the quarterback naked. You live and you learn. I wish they would have said to me, I got docked 15 grand. What a day. Knocked it out of the ballpark today.
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Starting point is 01:26:57 with knowledge that'll help you out. It's not gambling. It's investing. When you go to actionnetwork.com backslash pat. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now from a home in West Virginia, USA. He was at the Kansas City game this past weekend. He's a 24-7 news cycle with the NFL. His blog never rests and neither does he. He's an Italian from Profootballtalk.com, the founder, the blogger, the TV sensation, Mike Florio. Hello, Patrick. How are you? I'm excellent. Thank you so much for asking. How was your weekend?
Starting point is 01:27:39 I heard you smoked a little cigar last night down in your barn. Yeah, boy, that could have gone a couple of different ways. I heard you smoked a little, yes, cigar, tobacco cigar down in the barn last night. It was capping off 20 weeks of being on the road every weekend. Now, look, the work never stops, but the grind, and I love it, but you commemorate when you finally get to a point where you get your weekends back. And, you know, I leave every Saturday. I'm home every Monday.
Starting point is 01:28:07 And this past week was even a little more creative because we were in Kansas City for our show, PFT Live, on Friday. Got stuck in Chicago Saturday night because of the weather. So I was gone a little bit longer than usual. So it was kind of get home, kiss the ground, eat some pasta, watch some football, drink some wine, smoke a cigar, and get up the next morning and get right back at it. You're a pretty huge part of that football night in America, which has withstood the test of time. Sunday Night Football is the most watched television show for eight years straight, I believe is what Al Michaels said, that whole operation there.
Starting point is 01:28:41 What is it like? Do they tell you what you're going to talk about, or does Mike Florio set the rules? This is what me and Chris Sims are going to talk about and keep it moving. No, let me tell you, the show is produced and I know in advance what I'm going to talk about and I'm on board with it and they know what I'm going to say. You can't just wing it for something like that because we're packing so much into an hour and 20 minutes every Sunday. We're looking back on the day that was. We're talking about big picture issues in the NFL. We're getting you ready for the game to come.
Starting point is 01:29:16 And it's a lot of moving parts, and it happens very quickly. And this year, with Mike Tirico arriving as the host, there's a greater focus on just the immediacy of it. There's not a lot of rehearsal. Nothing is taped in advance. Everything is done live and in the moment. And we really cover as much ground as we possibly can. But you have to have a good idea of what you're going to say and how long you're going to take to say it.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Because if you have one answer or one comment that goes on a hell of a lot longer than it's supposed to in the third segment of the show. It just takes away time from everything that we want to get to later in the show. So it's a great pace and it's a great concept. And, you know, I question the value of the game, of the pregame shows that are on in the mornings, because I think you get everything you need from internet and Twitter and everywhere else. But what we try to do at the end of the day is really pull everything together and get you that snapshot that you need based on everything that's happened,
Starting point is 01:30:12 everything that's going to happen, get you ready for the game, get you educated on what happened all day, hit the big picture topics that have come up, and just plow right into that evening game. I watch every game here from my office all season, and I still find myself, as soon as Football Night in America starts, paying attention because you guys cover everything. It's such an interesting thing to hear behind the curtain there
Starting point is 01:30:33 that if you talk to us a little bit longer, you're going to – that's TV, though. That's absolutely TV. Fox had 45 people on their TV today in their pregame show. I don't know if you saw that, Mike, during your traveling. There's 45 people on one desk. Oh, yeah, I've missed that. I mean, we've gotten needled for that in the past,
Starting point is 01:30:52 but we make use of everybody. Everybody kind of has their role. Everybody has their place, and we weave everyone in and out. It's fun because going into the day, you really don't know what's going to happen that night because so much of it hinges on how the day unfolds, you know, who plays well, who I may want to try to get on the phone to talk about whatever performance or decision or whatever is worth focusing on.
Starting point is 01:31:20 And the day just unfolds. We all watch the games together. You get a sense of what's important and what's not important. By the time 5.30 rolls around, we really know everything we want to get into an hour and a half after that. It's very alive. It's very engaging and draining. I mean, when that day's over, I'm done.
Starting point is 01:31:38 I think everybody else is just exhausted, but you put everything you can into it, put together the best show you can, and then move on to the next one. You guys are all watching the games together. Is there any whiskeys or beers or marijuana? No. No. Well, with Chris Sims, you never know what he possibly will be eating.
Starting point is 01:31:55 But, no, it's all full sobriety. They have a nice spread forest of food. It's pretty much the same thing every week, which is good. I'm a creature. I have it. We watch in almost like a classroom with the tables and the elevated seating, and there's maybe 20 people in the room. And the folks on air all sit in the front row. It goes across Tony Dungy, Mike Tirico, Rodney Harrison, me, and Chris Sims, we all sit side by side and we take in the game. And with the games, all the games at once,
Starting point is 01:32:29 and we focus on the things we think are important and kind of flesh out where it all goes as it happens in real time. It really is. So those early games on Sunday, it's a lot of fun. It's a great place to watch a game. And it would be even better if they would mix in some whiskey or some beer, but I don't know how good the show would be that night. Although maybe it'll be better.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Yeah. I was about to say, I think you toss in some vitamins there, it gets real better. Let's talk about some vitamins. Andy Reid's season is something that is real. Normally his teams come out hot, and then they flutter and suck. That Chiefs team against the Colts this past weekend was hot.
Starting point is 01:33:06 How do they topple the New England Patriots who seem to have a chip on their shoulder now? Tom Brady did an interview where he said, yeah, everybody thinks we suck. We'll see. It'll be fun. They seem like they have a chip on their shoulder now. How does this Chiefs team look live and in person? You were there on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:33:25 And why is Andy Reid's season continuing? And this is kind of out of the normal for an Andy Reid team. Well, for the Patriots, when they lost that game in fluky fashion, the Dolphins fell at Pittsburgh the following week. It was very easy to write them off because they were doing some uncharacteristic things. They weren't mastering situational football. Tom Brady all of a sudden didn't look like Tom Brady. He looked like he was throwing the ball more quickly than he should because he was bracing for contact. And I was
Starting point is 01:33:51 always told, watch his legs, not his arm, that when his legs go and he can't protect himself, can't step up in the pocket, can't slide away from pressure, can't avoid taking big hits, he'll start taking big hits and then he'll start shying away from big hits, and then the arm starts to go. But I think he got healthy. I think he was secretly injured. You know, shocker, teams lie about and conceal injuries from the injury report, but we hear more and more about a knee injury. Now, I don't know anything about it, but I've seen enough smoke that makes me think there's fire, and I see how well he's playing now. So they had their bottom in December.
Starting point is 01:34:26 And people wrote them off. They won their last two regular season games. They get their bye by the skin of their teeth. They just missed being the number one seed. And then they take their week off. And they just kick the crap out of the Chargers. And now the Chiefs are going to have to worry about a very motivated Patriots team. You know, you've got all those rings, all those championships, all that playoff experience. And they've still found a way
Starting point is 01:34:46 to have themselves focused and fired up and thinking like the world is against them. But with the Chiefs, with Andy Reid, you know, the key is Patrick Mahomes. How people missed on this guy is beyond me. Look at the Jaguars. They took Leonard Fournette instead of Patrick Mahomes. The 49ers took Solomon Thomas instead of Patrick Mahomes. I don't know who to blame for not realizing Mahomes was going to be the guy that he is,
Starting point is 01:35:07 but Mahomes is the difference. The guy is incredible. We did a highlight reel last week of his top 19 plays on PFT Live. He put together in one season a better highlight reel than most every other quarterback who has ever lived can put together for his entire career. He throws the ball from every angle. He throws on the run. He throws off the wrong foot. He throws off of no feet. He throws the ball from every angle. He throws on the run. He throws off the wrong foot.
Starting point is 01:35:26 He throws off of no feet. He throws where he's not looking. He throws it underarm like Kent DeKalb used to. It's amazing the stuff the guy can do. Any body position, any arm angle, any situation, and he stays within his abilities. You know, you'll see some guys try to do more than they can. But Holmes always knows what he can get away with, and he's always
Starting point is 01:35:46 right at the limit of what he physically can do. And that's the reason why the Chiefs are still alive. And if they advance, he's going to be the reason they make it past the Patriots. You know, it makes me think of Rich Gannon back in the day. Rich Gannon used to have all those throwing angles. Then you add in an athlete to the case, and it's a whole new ballgame for
Starting point is 01:36:02 Patrick Mahomes. He didn't look rattled at all in the big game there. Didn't look rattled at all in the big game there didn't look rattled at all that team looks relaxed and comfortable I don't know what's going to happen when you have to look across to the other sideline and you see Bill Belichick and you know whatever that old guy is up in the booth I'll be excited for that Sean Payton rolls into the locker room with 200 some thousand dollars in the Lombardi says you want that win three fucking games early it looked like it wasn't going to happen a fake punt happens is that story 100%
Starting point is 01:36:30 true and if so is that the greatest piece of motivation you've ever heard in the NFL it is true it did happen and my understanding is you did the same thing back in 2009 as they entered the postseason as the number one seed. Now, there was
Starting point is 01:36:46 also other stories of money being put on the table back then in 2009 and then it gets the Saints in a lot of trouble. But none of that kind of money was put on the table this time. You don't need that. That whole bounty thing was always overblown to me because you're already incentivized to go out and
Starting point is 01:37:01 knock the other quarterback out of the game legitimately if you can. You're not incentivized to go out and and knock the other quarterback out of the game legitimately if you can you're not incentivized to go out there and break the rules but there is an incentive to go out there and hit the quarterback hard and rattle him and if you can knock the quarterback out of the game and put his back up in that's just always been part of football now we don't talk about it anymore because of what happened with the bounty scandal but everybody was doing it i don't know whether they do it anymore if they do it now do it now, they've become very discreet about it. But with the legitimate monetary incentive,
Starting point is 01:37:30 that's the way to make every opponent nameless and faceless and logo-less. Because the idea is when the Eagles come in, you're not thinking, hey, we beat the Eagles 48-7, so what are we going to do this time around? This time around, they're just the team that's in our way as we try to get that $200,000 in cash, try to get that Super Bowl trophy, and try to get those rings. Look, it almost blew up on them yesterday with the Eagles. I thought they were going to have trouble with Philadelphia
Starting point is 01:37:54 because I knew it was a different team than what they faced in Week 11. But I think that that motivation, you just beat whoever shows up, and you just keep winning, and you're going to get that giant glass box with all that crap inside of it. Yeah, throw them ones at the strip club. I used to give out a bounty. I used to give $100 for any tackle inside the 20 on a kickoff. I used to give up $100.
Starting point is 01:38:15 I'll give you $100. And then the Greg Williams things happen. I decide to do it the year after, and I get scolded by fucking everybody. I'm like, it's just $100 fucking bucks. They're like, no, no more bounties. Can't do it. Greg Williams ruined the game. I'm like, it's just 100 fucking bucks. They're like, no, no more bounties. Can't do it. Greg Williams ruined the game. I'm like, ah.
Starting point is 01:38:27 But he did it. You know, he did it everywhere. Other teams were doing it. The NFL never wanted to go down the rabbit hole. I think the NFL didn't want to know who all was doing it. And the NFL didn't want a scandal that would have touched every team. They wanted to find one team. They wanted to whack them, make an example out of them, create the impression.
Starting point is 01:38:44 Because that was all at the time when the concussion lawsuits were being filed and there was this renewed, or I would say unprecedented sensitivity to player health and safety. And I can't believe it's already been seven years, but the Saints were the ones who drew the short straw. But yeah, everybody was doing it in some form or fashion. And now it's like you're not allowed to talk about it. Yep. You're not.
Starting point is 01:39:02 You're literally not. Do you think, do you know, because you're the guy with all the inside information, what Jerry Jones named his yacht after winning the wild card weekend that he bought for $250 million? And are the LA Rams, are they a team that could go into New Orleans and win in that dome? Well, I mean, you look at what happened. First of all, I don't know what he named
Starting point is 01:39:25 the shot i didn't know he bought a 250 million dollar yacht but uh it would be nice to be able to afford something of that magnitude but the rams i think can go into new orleans and win they they uh they were down big when they played in the regular season week nine and they came back and tied it up and the saints credit they they they found a way to score the final ten points and win the game. That rushing attack that they've come up with, the C.J. Anderson acquisition, a guy who was out there for anybody to sign, a guy who had been with the Raiders for a week and was cut,
Starting point is 01:39:57 a guy who was rejected by the Chiefs after they had to get rid of Kareem Hunt. They brought back Tarkandrick West instead of signing C.J. Anderson. He's had three straight 100-plus yard games. Great compliment to Todd Gurley, who's still, I don't think, fully 100% after that knee swelled up on him during the regular season. And, you know, with Jared Goff, some real questions about how good he is and whether he is a franchise quarterback. You take a lot of heat off him if you can run the ball the way they ran it
Starting point is 01:40:22 against the Cowboys. And they just gashed the Cowboys. And if they can do that against the Saints, hopefully it's going to be a classic NFC Championship game. You have to give the home team edge with the noise and the hostile environment. We've seen the Rams not thrive away from home. Not that they're great at home, but they're good enough to win anywhere. But you throw in that Superdome with all that noise,
Starting point is 01:40:44 and I think that ends up being a difference maker for the Saints. But it's still early in the week, but for now, I'd say it's going to be very hard for the Rams to get it done. That dome is awesome wherever it's going. That place was loud. Same with Kansas City. There are going to be two great environments here for championship weekend.
Starting point is 01:41:01 Sharkandrick West once shit his pants in practice. They call him Sharkandrick around the team. There's a story. That's a story you can write about on Pro Football Talk if you'd like to. Let's get to some off the field news that you seem to know more about than anybody else. I have a simple question, especially after the press conference today where he looked like a lost robot who was either on Adderall or the cocagna uh how does Adam Gase get that job in New York after what what he did in Miami with not a lot of success is it strictly because he beat the Patriots uh one time with the Miami Miracle is that why he got the Jets gig or what do you think it is well remember he got that job in 2016 in Miami the first year they went to the
Starting point is 01:41:43 playoffs and he got a lot out of Ryan Tannehill. That was the best year Tannehill had. And until he took a low hit from Calais Campbell in December of 2016, the Dolphins looked like they were in pretty good shape, not just to get to the postseason, but win some games there. And with Matt Moore playing quarterback, the Dolphins lost in Pittsburgh in the wild card round. And then last year, 2017, so many adversities and struggles and hurdles,
Starting point is 01:42:09 and it just became too much for the Dolphins to compete. And then 2018, it was just kind of a weird, vague, ambiguous season, and Tannehill was back. But I don't think Tannehill's ever been the answer. I've never seen a team wait as long as the Dolphins have to come to the conclusions to whether or not a guy's a franchise quarterback. I think Gase's reputation is very simple. When it comes to working with quarterbacks, he gets the most out of them and he will defend them. He will fight for them. He will. And I think this is the basic premise here. Not everybody's Peyton Manning. Not everybody's
Starting point is 01:42:39 Tom Brady. Some guys can't lead naturally. So the team needs to step up. The coach needs to step up and make sure everyone understands this is our guy, and this is the guy you follow, and this is the guy who sets the tone. And if he isn't a natural leader, you're either going to make him into one, or you're going to be that leader on his behalf. And I think that's why Gase is always so defensive of his quarterback and was so over the top behind Ryan Tannehill. And I think that's why Gase is always so defensive of his quarterback and was so over the top behind Ryan Tannehill. And I think he's going to be the same way with Sam Darnold, and he's going to get the absolute most out of Sam Darnold. Now, where that goes remains to be seen.
Starting point is 01:43:13 Whether he gets chewed up and spat out by the New York media remains to be seen. I know he's uncomfortable in those settings because he's always afraid he's going to say something that hurts his guys. But he wants to support his players. He wants to support his quarterback. I kind of like it for his sake that they're coming in with people skeptical.
Starting point is 01:43:32 It's always better to come in with low expectations than high expectations. I think when they get a chance, he's going to be motivated to get the crap out of the Dolphins every time he plays them. He knows how to play the Patriots. I think that Jets fans in time are going to be happy with what they have in Adam Gase.
Starting point is 01:43:48 It seems like you're an Adam Gase guy. Well, I think that he's proven that he can get it done when it comes to quarterbacks. And people say, well, anybody could have done it with Peyton Manning. Does anyone really think that Peyton Manning would have tolerated somebody that doesn't know what they're doing, that can't keep up with Peyton Manning? I mean, Gase had to bust his ass to keep up with Peyton Manning would have tolerated somebody that doesn't know what they're doing, that can't keep up with Peyton Manning. I mean, Gates had to bust his ass to keep up with Peyton Manning. Before that, Tim Tebow got thrust into the mix in Denver, and Gates had to basically, with six days' notice, rip up the playbook and come up with something that they could do to get
Starting point is 01:44:18 the most out of Tim Tebow. And even though Tebow wasn't great, they got to the playoffs and they won a game that year. So he's gotten the most out of Jay Cutler. He did better than anyone has with Ryan Tannehill. And I think with a guy like Darnold, we saw a lot of promise from Darnold down the stretch. I just think Gase is going to be the guy to get the most out of him. Now, does that mean he was the first choice? No.
Starting point is 01:44:37 But the Jets may ultimately be happy with what Gase does. You hit on a point there about Tannahill becoming a franchise quarterback or not when they signed him to his huge deal i put a tweet out that if that's what they're giving tannahill they're gonna have to give a percentage of the fucking team to luck then because by this point luck had been to the afc championship game already and all that stuff dolphins fans came after me they came after me hard about how great tannahill is and all that stuff and then obviously the gm i got a text from the gm threatening to find me for my joke about a conference rival. I was like the dolphins. I was very, I was very confused by it all, but I'm excited to see Gase. Let's flip over to Arizona.
Starting point is 01:45:18 Now, Cliff Kingsbury, 35 and 40 as a college head coach had a glass of coffee with, or a cup of coffee with Sean McVay. They got a young quarterback in Rosen. How does Cliff Kingsbury get that gig? Is everybody in the NFL, every owner, every billionaire, every GM, just hoping that they can find the next Sean McVay and become the next LA Rams? You know, my understanding is that the Cardinals really want to Lincoln Rowley, but once it was clear he was staying put, then they moved on to Cliff Kingsbury, and that was their first choice when the hiring cycle began. And I think it shocked everyone, including Kingsbury. I mean, why else would Kingsbury take a job with USC as the offensive coordinator
Starting point is 01:45:55 if he knew he was going to be in such demand in the NFL? The Jets wanted him, the Cardinals wanted him, the Cardinals got him. And my concern with Kingsbury is this. Remember when Patrick Mahomes was coming out, and there were all those different knocks wanted him, the Cardinals got him. And my concern with Kingsbury is this. Remember when Patrick Mahomes was coming out and there were all those different knocks on him, like he takes too many chances. He throws into coverage too often. He's this, he's that.
Starting point is 01:46:14 It knocked him all the way down to number 10. Even when he went to number 10, people were surprised. I think a lot of those knocks on Patrick Mahomes were the product of coaching. And a lot of those flaws have been coached right out of him by Andy Reid. And it just makes me wonder how responsible Cliff Kingsbury was for those limitations in Mahomes' game.
Starting point is 01:46:31 And if he would have been getting better coaching at Texas Tech, would they have had a winning record? Would they have been in contention for national championships? I mean, I just don't understand it, and I understand that everyone's saying the same thing, but when have we ever seen a college coach who wasn't dominant at the college level be in such demand at the NFL level? I mean, of all the hires this year, at the time the decision was made,
Starting point is 01:46:58 every one of them except Kingsbury had only one option, the team that hired him. Kingsbury was the only one that had two options, the Jets or the Cardinals, assuming the Jets would have given him an offer. But the Jets wanted him, the Cardinals wanted him, and the other seven guys. There wasn't another team that wanted him at the time that the offer came in. Kyler Murray, there's been a lot of talk about a potential renegotiation with the MLB. I think the MLB needs him a lot more than the NFL would, but we are in a whole new time. Kyler Murray could be a top five pick potentially to those Cardinals. A lot of people talking about
Starting point is 01:47:31 if you have an abundance of quarterbacks, you're in a good position for trade bait or anything like that with Rosen and Kyler Murray. What do you think happens with Kyler Murray in the end of this whole thing? Well, the problem for Kyler Murray is that if he wants to get drafted as high as possible by the NFL, he needs to make it clear that he's made a full and complete commitment to the NFL. Teams aren't going to run the risk of getting the Bo Jackson treatment. The Buccaneers back in 1986 made Jackson the first overall pick in the draft. You basically told him, don't do it, I'm going to play baseball.
Starting point is 01:48:00 And he went and played baseball. And I think before anyone would blow their first-round pick on Murray, they want to be sure he's going to show up. And I get the idea that if it's true that he wants $15 million from the A's and he's looking at this, look at it as a financial proposition. That's perfectly fine. But at some point, you can't keep one foot in each boat. At some point, you've got to jump in one of the boats.
Starting point is 01:48:24 And he's going to play it out as long as he can, but if his goal is to get drafted as high as possible by the NFL, at some point before the draft, he's got to convincingly say, and they've got to believe, that he's truly all in with football. And that is being paying back the $4.66 million or giving up whatever remaining rights he has to money he hasn't gotten from the A's and just slamming the door shut on baseball because without that, he's not going to be a
Starting point is 01:48:49 first round pick. And if he's not a first round pick, he's probably not going to play football and he'll take his baseball career instead. And that's going to be the key to me. And I think that's why the A's are being so accommodating with him because I think if the A's can convince him to keep that one foot in the baseball boat until late april there's a good chance he won't be drafted high enough to say screw it i'm not playing baseball i'm playing football oh so the mlb is trying to out uh wit basically the nfl right now potentially two heisman uh winners in the mlb next year that'd be interesting hey florio uh we have a little thing called The Room Wants to Know where the cast here has a question that
Starting point is 01:49:28 they've thought deeply about and they're eager to ask Mr. Mike Florio. Diggs from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania will go first. Mike, my bison. Where is Antonio Brown going to be to start it next year? Well, did you see Jerry Rice says that Brown really wants to play for the 49ers. Yeah, they had a painting that was both of them together. I don't know what makes the 49ers such an attractive destination for Brown, but that's the one thing that's been lost in all of this. We talk about what the Steelers want to do and what they're looking to gain and what they prefer to have happen. What Brown wants is going to be a factor here. I'm waiting for Brown,
Starting point is 01:50:05 and he's been hinting at it. I'm waiting for him to unload at some point on the Steelers, almost like Terrell Owens started to do back in 2005 when he wanted out of the Eagles. He's hinted at a few things. I think it only comes down to Ben Roethlisberger and Antonio Brown. I've heard some things about how Roethlisberger didn't like Brown.
Starting point is 01:50:22 I don't think Brown likes Roethlisberger, and that was the root of what happened a few weeks ago. And when Art Rooney, the owner of the team, comes out and says, look, hey, all options are on the table, and I can't imagine him at this point coming back to the locker room, that's the indication to the rest of the league that they're open for business. And I think they're going to try to auction this guy off. They're going to see what they can get, get the best possible deal you can,
Starting point is 01:50:46 and just move on. If you can direct him out of the division, out of the conference, all the better, and that's why the 49ers make a ton of sense, because the Steelers only have to see him once every four years, and I don't know what the schedule is when they would play them next, but you don't have to worry about Antonio Brown if you tuck him into the NFC. They play him next year. Also, Ben Roethlisberger voted least
Starting point is 01:51:06 desirable teammate amongst NFL players. True story. That's a real thing that came out. I think that meltdown is coming down soon, too. Guys, we've heard that for years. There have been the stories and the rumors and the whispers. And I remember when
Starting point is 01:51:21 the Steelers were at their wits' end with Roethlisberger in 2010 after he got in that trouble down in Georgia and and almost was charged with with some sort of a crime uh arising from the incident in the bathroom at that bar I was listening to Pittsburgh talk radio then just to get a feel for what the fans up there were saying and it's like every other call was somebody who was telling some story about being out in public somewhere and having Ben Roethlisberger say something to them that they didn't like. And I'm amazed nine years later that he's still there after all of that.
Starting point is 01:51:53 And there's an argument to be made that he's right in the middle of all this. And you wonder how much longer the Steelers want that when you realize some of these great young quarterbacks coming out, I think the teams that have older quarterbacks are thinking, Hey, we need to get our great young quarterback. And I'm not saying the Steelers are moving in that direction with Roethlisberger. If anything, it sounds like he's going to get another contract, but,
Starting point is 01:52:16 but they have to, they have to be aware of these stories, aware of these concerns. And at some point you have to do that balance of, are we better off finding a new quarterback and moving on from the guy we have i don't like him throwing people under the bus publicly i i hate that i mean as a teammate i would like to think that if i was in that locker room obviously not whenever i'm young but when i got older i would have i feel like even as a punter or a kicker i feel like i would have said like in a in the locker room in front of everybody
Starting point is 01:52:44 i would be like oh ben throwing cuzzy out on the fucking news today like I feel like I would have said, like in the locker room in front of everybody, I would be like, oh, Ben throwing Cousy out on the fucking news today. Like I feel like I would have at least, because he does that on a regular basis. It's very interesting to me. Let me tell you this, Pat. The craziest thing he does, he does that weekly spot on 93.7 in Pittsburgh. Back when you were growing up, it was B94, the top 40 format.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Because I was living there at the time. I still listen to 93.7 all the time. And he's on there every Tuesday. And he gets relaxed. He gets comfortable. And like once out of every two or three weeks, he says something he shouldn't say. And that's where he was calling guys out. And he lets his guard down.
Starting point is 01:53:18 And whatever they're paying him to do, it's not worth it. It just creates far more problems for him than he needs. Well, and the rest of the NFL hates him for it. I was on ESPN the day after he did that. By the way, no big deal. I was on ESPN, Mike Flory. I don't know if you know anything about that. Let me talk for 45 seconds on ESPN.
Starting point is 01:53:34 It was like the day after he had done that. And I said, I understand that Roethlisberger is very good, but the reason why he is not an elite guy, like the guy that everybody talks about, because he puts up all the numbers of the big-name players, all of them, but the reason why he isn't is because he does this petty stuff like this, throw people under the bus publicly.
Starting point is 01:53:54 That's not what your guy does. That's not what the franchise does. And I got a lot of tweets from people around the league and messages that were like, yeah, fuck that guy. Even Pittsburgh fans say it. Why did Mike Tomlin let him do it? Tomlin's been his coach since 2007. Because he's really good at football. At some point, somebody come to him and say, Ben, you that guy. Even Pittsburgh fans say it. Why did Mike Tomlin let him do it? Tomlin's been his coach since 2007. Do you think at some point somebody come to him and say, Ben, you can't be like this?
Starting point is 01:54:09 What is he going to do? He put up 50 on the Colts like three years in a row. He just has the ability to put up monster numbers and be incredible. And in a league that you're a slave to winning and losing, your happiness is a slave to winning or losing. It's like, if you got a guy, you just got to deal with it almost. I don't think they'll ever leave roethlisberger until he says he's done
Starting point is 01:54:29 but i think he's a lot bigger part of the problem than anybody else is saying all right next question is from a 21 state uh 21 year state police detective big coats fan not sure if his question will be about that or not i have not heard these questions todd but call us it is not but mike we had a little debate about this earlier. Any chance at all you see the Philadelphia Eagles considering keeping Foles as their guy? And if not, where do you see Foles going? Yeah, good question. Well, you know, Doug Peterson, the coach of the Eagles, has addressed this several times.
Starting point is 01:54:58 They've made it clear that Wentz is their guy. Now, if they start getting phone calls about Wentz and they start getting offers about Wentz, maybe they change their guy. Now, if they start getting phone calls about Wentz and they start getting offers about Wentz, maybe they change their mind. I think what they're going to try to do is trade Foles if they can. And the only way to pull that off, and it's a fairly simple game of ping pong under his contract. They have a $20 million option for next year. If they exercise it, he's got a $2 million buyout. Well, then they could turn around and apply the franchise tag and they could trade him if they can find a trade partner. I don't know who would trade for him with a franchise tag that pays out $25 million next year.
Starting point is 01:55:29 But if they try to do that and they wait for the phone to ring, there's a chance the phone rings inquiring about Foles. There's a chance the phone rings inquiring about Carson Wentz. And if I'm the Eagles, and I've been saying this all along, once Foles came back this year and started doing the same things he did last year, after he beat Durant, Chris Simms and I had a long conversation about this, whether or not at some point the Eagles have to have a discussion about whether it's in their best interest to have Wentz or Foles,
Starting point is 01:55:56 because Wentz is a better quarterback, but the Eagles are a better team when Foles is on the field. And that's just the way it is. And maybe that's on the coaching staff for trying to do too much with Wentz and not just staying within the structure of their offense and what they would like to do, like they do
Starting point is 01:56:13 with Foles. But the bottom line is they've been very successful with Foles. Wentz has been injured each of the last two Decembers, and if you can't stay healthy in crunch time in a season, that's a factor that works against you. And I said then, after that game when they went out and shocked the Rams, if they get to the playoffs and if they go back to New Orleans and if they keep it within single digits
Starting point is 01:56:34 after getting beat 48-7 there with Wentz at quarterback, you have to at least get in the conference room, Doug Peterson, Howie Roseman, Jeff Freelurry, order a pizza or cheesesteaks or whatever, and have a 45-minute conversation on whether or not Wentz or Foles is in your best interest long-term. And pick one and move the other one. And I feel like they've already determined that Wentz is the guy, and they may end up regretting it. If Wentz continues to get injured, if Wentz has back problems,
Starting point is 01:56:59 whatever the case may be, they may end up regretting this, especially if Foles ends up, if they don't do the franchise tag thing and he walks out the door, he ends up the quarterback of the Giants or the quarterback in Washington, that could make for some interesting games coming up. Oh, Washington. I didn't even think about that because they got their own. Alex Smith got, ugh, yuck.
Starting point is 01:57:15 I just got disgusted. This next question comes from a dummy from Chicago. His name's Zito Jose Perez. Mr. Florio, I have a quick question. Let's go back to 2001. That's the segment, by the way, is you do have a question. That is the segment. I'll just clarify. It was a question, not a statement.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Okay. When you were creating the website slash blog, was there any other name, or how did that name come apart? Well, I got started in the business writing for a website that was called NFLtalk.com, and I did that for a year or so before
Starting point is 01:57:45 it went belly up when the tech bubble burst for the first time in 2001. And when I decided to do my own thing, it's like, well, I like to put talk in there somewhere and you start looking for domains, and Pro Football Talk was available. It's like, alright, that sounds good. Let's take it. Pay your 50 bucks
Starting point is 01:58:01 or whatever it was, $9.99 on GoDaddy.com, and off you go. Was there any second options? No. Well, what's the first one? They're not going to think of the second option. If you get your first choice, you don't need a fallback plan. The fallback plan would have been, oh, shit, that one's taken.
Starting point is 01:58:16 I've got to come up with a different one. Plan B is just a pill until you need it. The next question is from a guy from Boston. He's a diehard Patriots fan. He knew what was going to happen to the Chargers. He knew it, but he is just blindly loyal to Belichick for good reason. His name is Boston Connor. He's very loud.
Starting point is 01:58:36 Yeah, I am not blind. I am blindly loyal, though, Mike. How are you? Quick question. What are the chances Rob Gronkowski is on the football field next year? I'd be surprised if he's back. Look, I firmly believe that if they would have beaten the Eagles in Super Bowl 52, he would have retired either immediately after the game or not long after the game.
Starting point is 01:58:56 I was hearing a lot of buzz in Minneapolis that week about a potential high-profile retirement after the game. A lot of talk about how Gronkowski's family has been leaning on him to walk away. He doesn't need the money. He's never spent a dime of his football money. He's lived off of his marketing dollars. And consider all the injuries he's had. He's had the multiple broken arms.
Starting point is 01:59:17 He's had a plate that got infected, and he had the PICC line and the staph infection from that. He's had torn ACLs. He's had back surgeries multiple times, but the concussions give the family concern and the family has been leaning on him to walk away. And I don't know whether we're seeing a guy who's like tentative and concerned about a potential additional head injury at this point. I don't know what seems different about the guy, but he definitely seems different. And I think this is it for him. I don't know that,
Starting point is 01:59:45 but based upon what I heard last year, I think he decided after they lost the eagles to give it one more run but i think he walks after this season again i haven't heard that but it's consistent with everything that i heard back in february and i really think that if they would have emerged from super bowl 52 with a victory he just walked off into the sunset. Well, you know, he does have a lucrative acting career waiting for him. That was the Rosenhaus sports announcement whenever there was a thought of retirement. Rob Gronkowski is considering retiring for a lucrative acting career, kind of letting everybody know that if he does go into acting,
Starting point is 02:00:21 it will be a lucrative career, which I assume because he's the Gronk and he's big and he's awesome. Look, this guy can make, I don't know how many million a year just being Gronk. You know, the big lovable doofus that shows up, does something funny, yells like a frat boy and moves on to the next thing. I love Gronk, by the way. I know there's some people that hate him, but I think the one thing that you get from Gronk is he's always Gronk. I don't think Gronk is ever anybody else other than Gronk.
Starting point is 02:00:50 That's why I respect him and appreciate him so much. Next question comes from a miserable man from Iowa, Ty Schmidt. Hey, Mike, big Packers fan. Not really too enthused about who they hired. What's your take on Matt LaFleur? Do you think that's a good fit in Green Bay? What did happen there? That was out of nowhere for you. Yeah, and that was the guy
Starting point is 02:01:10 that went first, right? He interviewed on Sunday. On Monday, he gets a call from Aaron Rodgers. That goes well. Ten minutes later, he gets a call from Mark Murphy, the CEO of the Packers, and Brian Gutekunst, the GM, and they offer him the job. The Packers spent so much time trying to make everyone think Aaron Rodgers was going
Starting point is 02:01:28 to have no input in this one, well, it's stupid if he doesn't. They're paying him $33.5 million a year. He's the face of the franchise. He's the most important employee, most important figure altogether in a publicly traded company that has no owner. He is the owner of the Green Bay Packers. And I think they wanted somebody that Rodgers was comfortable with, that Rodgers believes he can work with,
Starting point is 02:01:50 that Rodgers thinks will put together the kind of offense that he needs to be successful, and that Rodgers will have the ability, if he doesn't like something, he's going to do whatever he wants. And it's not going to make Matt LaFleur upset. You know, there's a lot of friction that they spent a lot of time trying to cover up in Green Bay between Rodgers and Mike McCarthy. And I think they're trying to get away from that. And I think LaFleur will get away from that because LaFleur is not going to question Rodgers.
Starting point is 02:02:09 He's going to let Rodgers do what he does. If you're going to make that kind of financial investment in the guy, why don't you let the guy do what he wants? Why don't you let him be Peyton Manning? I mean, they let Peyton Manning ultimately do whatever he wanted to do, both in India and in Denver, and it worked. And I think that's the phase that they're sliding into, and Matt LaFleur is going to be the guy responsible
Starting point is 02:02:27 for basically letting Aaron Rodgers do whatever he wants to do. And Gase is somehow getting head coaching jobs because of that. Yeah. I think it's very interesting, though, that Rodgers gives him a call, and he's like, yeah, he's okay. You can hire him. Ten-minute conversation. What's up, bud?
Starting point is 02:02:42 What's your favorite cereal? You like scotch? Me too. All right. You going to protect me? Yeah, all right. We going to build. What's up, bud? What's your favorite cereal? You like scotch? Me too. All right. You going to protect me? Yeah, all right. We going to build up this team a little bit? Yep.
Starting point is 02:02:49 We going to sling it? Yep. All right, I'll call Murphy right now. Aaron Rodgers is the face of that franchise, no doubt. He got the reins of that a long time ago, and I hope they make him happy because watching Aaron Rodgers go to work is something that every NFL fan enjoys. This next question comes from a guy who was Ursae's right-hand
Starting point is 02:03:10 man for a long time. He's older than you, Jeff Gorman. I don't know about older than Florio. I think you are. Born in 65. Yeah, he got me by three years. Mike, how are you? It's good to talk to you. Kitchens hired in Cleveland. Why is he the right guy for Baker Mayfield? Why is he like that?
Starting point is 02:03:25 Yeah. Look, some of the other teams in the division are very happy about Freddie Kitchens being the head coach. He's never a guy that was viewed as a head coaching candidate. He got demoted by Bruce Arians in Arizona. He got knocked down from quarterback to coach to running back to coach last year there. He was in the right place at the right time to step into the offensive coordinator role. It was great. When they fired Hugh Jackson and Todd Haley on the same day,
Starting point is 02:03:47 they had a press conference that week with Greg Williams after he got the interim head coaching job, and they asked him about Freddie Kitchens as the offensive coordinator. He said, that wasn't my decision, and off we go from here. But it worked, and I think that at the end of the day, and I heard this, that it was a tug-of-war between the football people in Cleveland, the football people, John Dorsey, et cetera. They wanted Kitchens, the analytics guys, because Paul DePedesta still is there and still has a lot of juice. He wanted Kevin Stefanski, the Vikings offensive coordinator,
Starting point is 02:04:13 and Baker Mayfield broke the tie, and Baker Mayfield wanted Freddie Kitchens. And I think they just concluded, look, it worked last year with Kitchens and Mayfield. Let's keep these two together and see what happens. And if it doesn't work, oh, boy, we'll hire another head coach. I mean, hell, they've hired five in the last seven years. Hey, so what if we have to hire one more?
Starting point is 02:04:33 But I think they want to see if they've got something magical going with Kitchens. If they do, they do. If they don't, they'll get somebody else. Mayfield's going to be there 15 years. They can afford to swing and miss on the first coach they hire after they've drafted Mayfield. Bruce Arians wanted that gig. Bruce Arians wanted that Cleveland gig.
Starting point is 02:04:49 He ends up in Tampa. Why'd that happen? And why did Bruce Arians all of a sudden pivot to Tampa? Well, it's weird because he made it clear that that's the only job he'd want. Yeah. It was the only one. Because I thought it'd be perfect for Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Yep.
Starting point is 02:05:03 And Bruce Arians came out and said, no, I don't want Green Bay. The only one I want is Cleveland. And he was on that NFL's career advisory development panel where they identify the coaching candidates for the coming year. And they asked him multiple times, are you done? Are you really? Yeah, I'm done. I'm done.
Starting point is 02:05:18 Otherwise, they wouldn't have put him on the panel. I mean, he's identifying candidates. He ends up being a candidate. But that Buccaneers job worked out perfectly for him because Jason Light, the GM of the team, wanted to stay in place, wanted somebody that would come in and coach up Jameis Winston. Bruce
Starting point is 02:05:32 Arians was willing to come in and take the job knowing that Winston's the guy. And I think it's going to be the ultimate boom or bust. It's either going to be great, it's going to work out, and Winston's going to become the guy they've wanted him to be, and they're going to win a bunch of games and get back into the playoff conversation, or it's just going to work out and Winston's going to become the guy they've wanted him to be and they're going to win a bunch of games and get back into the playoff conversation or it's just going to implode and Winston's going to be gone Arians is going to be gone the light's going to be gone and the
Starting point is 02:05:51 Buccaneers are going to have to start over but they need somebody that generates some excitement down there somebody who can sell tickets I mean he couldn't get tickets away last year and I think Arians has the spagger necessary to to make something happen, or just like with the Browns, they'll be right back where they are in a few years, hiring a new head coach. I think the teams that go through a lot of coaches, I think they're willing to take chances because, yeah, what's the worst thing that can happen? We'll be hiring a new head coach. All right, we are now.
Starting point is 02:06:18 We were doing it two years ago. We'll likely do it two years from now again. Nick Morado, also a Pittsburgh native. Mike, you alluded to it earlier for the upcoming auction for AB Services. What's a reasonable return to expect if he were traded? And then also, I know you're a big-time hockey guy. What's your midseason Stanley Cup favorite pick? And that's hockey talk.
Starting point is 02:06:37 Yeah, I'm a big hockey guy when the postseason rolls around. Me too. I don't know what the hell's going on. Me too. I don't watch any of it until the postseason rolls around just because it doesn't have the same intensity and the football stuff keeps me too occupied to really enjoy it the way I'd like to.
Starting point is 02:06:52 The postseason starts at a perfect time, just as the draft is arriving. Once the draft is over, I can throw myself into playoff hockey. My only hope every year is the Penguins make it to the playoffs and then we can figure out where they are and whether or not they have a chance. But with Antonioio brown uh i look i think the steelers are setting this up to get multiple teams to come to the table because then you don't need that that
Starting point is 02:07:13 leverage that comes from acting like you would keep them they don't have to pretend they want i mean that's great leverage hey if somebody wants to trade for antonio brown now they i don't like your offer screw it we'll just keep him yeah I don't think the Steelers need that. Somebody is going to step up and try to get him because the contract is very affordable. He's got three years left at just under $39 million in comparison to somebody
Starting point is 02:07:34 at the top receivers. That's Steel. And none of it's guaranteed. You can take it year to year. And I don't know what would be reasonable, but I think if you get two or three or four teams that all want him, I think you can get a one for him. I mean, if the Raiders got a one for Amari Cooper
Starting point is 02:07:52 and they're looking at a gigantic financial investment they're going to have to make in him either this year or next year, I think you can get a one for Antonio Brown from a team that feels like it's close, from a team that feels like it's just that one top receiver away from being a real playoff contender, and is willing to roll the dice and mortgage that little chunk of the future for a guy who can come in right away and make the offense a lot better. Lev Bell, A.B., and James Harrison all ready to go to the same teams.
Starting point is 02:08:19 By the way, for those keeping track at home, keeping score at home. Yates is going to get them all. I've thought all along that the Jets would be the team For those keeping track at home, keeping score at home. Yates is going to get them all. Yates. Yates. I've thought all along that the Jets would be the team that makes the run for Le'Veon Bell, though. Yeah, me too. They got the money. They got the stardom.
Starting point is 02:08:35 And they also have a young quarterback, which is what? Aditi. What's his name? Adari. Adisa Bakari. Him. He said, the agent said he's always wanted. Last question comes from a Michigan kid. He's very young and dumb.
Starting point is 02:08:44 Evan Fox. Keep it simple, Mike. Who's winning the super bowl there we go you know uh as much as uh and we did a poll at pft of which super bowl do you want to see patriots rams patriots saints chiefs rams chiefs saints and there is a huge gap between the two options that include the chiefs and the two options that include the Patriots. People are sick of the Patriots in the Super Bowl. Right now, I'm leaning in Patriots, Saints, Super Bowl, and Patriots beat the Saints in the Super Bowl. And maybe Tom Brady rides off to the sunset.
Starting point is 02:09:14 Maybe it'll be Brady and Gronk, hand in hand. Maybe each have one hand on the trophy and just kind of walk away and hold it up in the air and you roll the credits and they're both gone. Oh, and then Patriots fans have to deal with the post-Brady, post-Gronk, New England Patriots. Julian Edelman's a hell of a player. That team is fun to watch. Phillip Rivers, that video I put out,
Starting point is 02:09:35 I was pulling hard for that guy, but it just seems like an inevitable force whenever you're going against the Patriots, especially now that they have a chip on their shoulder. Mr. Florio, I appreciate you so much, brother. Have an incredible day and take care and enjoy this time off from the road. All right. Hey, great talking to you guys.
Starting point is 02:09:52 Anytime you need me, Pat, you know where to find me, pal. Are you going to be down at the Super Bowl? Obviously. I'll be there. Oh, I won't be there all week. I think I'm going to be down there, too, with something pretty large. I think I'm going to be. With something pretty large?
Starting point is 02:10:04 Is that what you said? Yeah, like you know how... I've been down there on Radio Row and all these players come through with their sponsorships and they're just plugging things. I think I'm going to be a sponsored one of those things, but mine's pretty large. Mine's pretty awesome. We'll get you
Starting point is 02:10:19 on. We'll save a spot for you. That means a lot. Unless it's so big that it's even too big for our piddly little show. I mean, there's a chance you're going to move into a stratosphere here where you're just kind of like, who are you guys again? So we're going to enjoy the relationship before you outgrow us. I don't think that's possible. I'm very lucky that you're a friend. I'm very
Starting point is 02:10:36 lucky you came on the show. Ladies and gentlemen, check out Pro Football Talk for all you need. One-stop shop like a dictionary of NFL. Mike Florio. Thank you, buddy. Cheers, brother. All right. Thanks, guys. One-stop shop like a dictionary of NFL. Mike Florio. Thank you, buddy.
Starting point is 02:10:44 Cheers, brother. All right. Thanks, guys. See you. Let's get topical. Jackie R. Moon. The UK newspaper, The Daily Star, which is basically, I think it's like TMZ for over there. Okay.
Starting point is 02:11:00 Big gotcha journalist. Oh. They recently had a exclusive interview with the rock where basically all he did was just uh like take take down snowflake culture uh they quoted him as saying and they use it on the front page this generation is doing nothing but looking for a reason to be offended he's since come out and like blasted back at them big time uh saying he's been misquoted people are kind of taking the rock side big time obviously everyone loves's been misquoted people are kind of taking the rock side big time obviously everyone loves the rock do you think someone's trying to take him down or has something against him i was about to say it sounds like not everybody does love the rock
Starting point is 02:11:33 because even if the rock says that you would think the person would be like well we don't want to bury the rock so we're not going to put that quote on the front fucking page somebody's trying to bury the rock i wish the Rock would start cutting a promo like the old days, like in WWE. Like the UK Daily wants to come after The Rock and does like a whole thing. I told them jabronis to shove it up their fucking... But he wouldn't do that
Starting point is 02:11:56 because he's potentially running for president. And I think that is a reason why he can't have the millennials turning on him, by the way, because a lot of his career is pivoted off of his Instagram being so huge. He's been doing the selfie videos on Instagram for years. At the beginning, I was following along. I'm like, oh, this is The Rock. The Rock is cool.
Starting point is 02:12:15 It's turned into an entire business for him. You've watched Kevin Hart do the same thing following The Rock's lead. The Upside was the number one movie of the weekend, and if you watch the social media push that Kevin Hart put behind it, it was next level. The Rock is like the grandmaster of a social media marketing scheme whenever he comes to a movie star. He's giving people access behind things that people haven't had.
Starting point is 02:12:36 He's showing pictures of him on sets and having conversations in between scenes and what's about to happen behind the scenes of movies, which would always have been taboo, you would think, to give away anything you're working on. The Rock has really changed the game and it's all on millennial platforms. So he can't be having millennials turn on the kid. The Rock cannot have millennials. If the millennials turn on him on his Instagram and China turns on him for his movies, The Rock knows he's done and he's rich and he'll be rich forever, but he knows the career won't continue to ascend. He's on a one-way trip to the top, though.
Starting point is 02:13:13 No matter what you, every movie that he makes people make fun of, it does 100 million in the box office worldwide. And now he's starting to put that into his quotes, by the way, into his captions. He's starting to acknowledge worldwide is all he cares about worldwide he starts putting the planet earth little emoji in there now worldwide worldwide he basically he's saying y'all motherfuckers might get mad at me here in the united states but ain't nobody touching me internationally i'm a monster and he is and
Starting point is 02:13:39 he's probably gonna be president one day he can't be having a millennial's turn on him though on his instagram can't have that Instagram is a picture of the millennials. It is the picture of millennials. That's what it is. And The Rock knows that. He's probably so pissed off. I'll be excited to hear if they have a recording of that thing, of that interview.
Starting point is 02:13:58 From the sounds of it, he never even gave the quote, didn't even know that he was going to be appearing in the issue or anything like that. Like, he was really pissed. So what's he doing? He's just walking down the street. Somebody's walking behind him.
Starting point is 02:14:09 Maybe. And they just hear him, like, maybe talking shit. Like, these people are just looking to be offended about something. Maybe it's his friend Kevin Hart. So let's set the scene a little bit. Maybe his friend Kevin Hart gets booted from the Oscars. The Rock is walking somewhere somewhere having a dinner somewhere somebody's sitting at the table next to him overhears him saying all these people are looking
Starting point is 02:14:29 to get offended bing bang boom turns into the millennials or a generation looking to get offended game of telephone happens now the rock's career is almost going into the shitter because of one because of what kevin hart tweeted 10 years Wow. Can't believe that happened to him. I'm a rock guy, man. I'm a rock guy. Through and through. Sometimes I'm like, we did too much there. Sometimes I'm like, all right, we did too much there.
Starting point is 02:14:55 But at the end, you're like, the guy's winning. The guy, he had seven bucks at one time. Seven bucks production. Yes, he did. He's crushing it. Worldwide emoji. Worldwide, wide, wide. So the last one we got here, I don't know if you saw it, a picture of just a regular ass egg on Instagram
Starting point is 02:15:11 eclipsed Kylie Jenner's record of 18 million plus likes. I mean, that just diminishes all clout in Instagram, doesn't it? I mean, that's the way I look at it. I mean, that's a big time egg. There's not just any egg could do that. There's a lot of boring-ass eggs on Twitter that have been trying to do stuff like this for a long time. This egg is a legit egg.
Starting point is 02:15:31 But the thing that I learned about this whole thing is that Kylie Jenner had 18 million likes on a photo. That's the only thing. I didn't even know that was a record. I had no idea. This, they say the devil works hard, but Kris Jenner works harder this lady has pivoted obviously the oj simpson trial helps gets the name out there but if we this all comes down to a adult
Starting point is 02:15:56 video a homemade video with ray jay and her daughter chris jenner has pivoted this into her daughter. Kris Jenner has pivoted this into another daughter who I don't even think was born yet at the time, having the most liked picture on Instagram out of any celebrity worldwide, wide, wide. There's royalty on Instagram. There's like actual kings and queens on fucking Instagram. There's the rocks on Instagram. These people who have done many, many things are on Instagram. There's the Rocks on Instagram. These people who have done many, many things are on Instagram. And the sister of Kim Kardashian now has the most liked Instagram, and she's worth a billion dollars,
Starting point is 02:16:34 and her soon-to-be husband or whatever is performing at the halftime of Super Bowl. Kris Jenner is unde-fucking-feated. Kris Jenner is undefeated. There ain't nobody like Kris Jenner except for Vince McMahon. Vince McMahon is the male version of Kris Jenner is undefeated. Kris Jenner is undefeated. There ain't nobody like Kris Jenner except for Vince McMahon. Vince McMahon is the male version of Kris Jenner. She's the
Starting point is 02:16:50 best promoter in history. So let me ask you this. You think while all this shit was going on, she already had something up her sleeve? Like, okay, we need to get ahead of this and make sure we get back on top, or you think she just doesn't give a fuck? I think Kris Jenner's running the egg. Oh, okay. That's what I think. I think Kris Jenner's running the egg. Oh, okay. That's what I think. I think
Starting point is 02:17:05 Kris Jenner's running the egg just to showcase that Kylie Jenner once had a picture that was 18 million. That would not surprise me. Because you're right. I mean, like, you weren't hearing, it wasn't just the egg. In every story, it was the egg takes over Kylie Jenner. Kylie. Right. Yeah. Kylie.
Starting point is 02:17:22 Kris Jenner was running that egg. Easiest answer I've ever heard to something in my life. And I'm certain of it. I'm certain of it. And see, now her fans are going to want her to get the thing back again. So now she's going to bust it again. It's a nonstop. Kris Jenner, they say this a lot about Belichick.
Starting point is 02:17:40 Kris Jenner is playing chess. Everybody else is playing checkers. Travis Scott in the goddamn halftime show. Yeah. Wild news. In Atlanta, by the way, Travis Scott becomes, do you know how deep the history of rap music is in Atlanta? Pretty deep.
Starting point is 02:17:54 Pretty, pretty deep. And it's a big boy, deservedly so. I do hope Andre Three Stacks makes an appearance with him, maybe an outcast throwback. I hope that happens for sure. But, man, there's a lot of OGs floating around those Atlanta streets. Travis Scott gets in there and he's getting paid.
Starting point is 02:18:14 Supposedly $500,000 is going back to a social justice. I donated. He's donating that to a social justice thing. Normally Superbowl halftime performers don't get paid, right? Yeah. It's free. Cause you're getting in front of a hundred and 50 million people. This is wild. Chris Jenner is a fucking boss, man. I hope you enjoyed. It's free, right? Yeah, it's free because you're getting in front of 150 million people. This is wild.
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