The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 040 - Vinatieri, Florio, And The World We Live In

Episode Date: January 22, 2019

Today's show is packed with football talk. First, Colts Kicker, the all-time NFL points leader, 4x Super Bowl Champion, the GOAT, Adam Vinatieri, calls into the show. He and Pat discuss his season now that the dust has settled, Adam Schefter breaking the news that he plans to return for his 24th season, what he learned from Bill Belichick when playing for the Patriots, and he looks ahead to next season (4:04-20:56). Next, longtime friend of the show, creator of Pro Football Talk, Mike Florio calls in to recap the Conference Championship games. They also discuss what needs to be done to change the officiating in the NFL and Mike proposes a rule change for overtime (20:57-36:29). Pat and the guys also give their takes on the Conference Championships, chat a little bit about the plans for Super Bowl week in Atlanta, and Pat talks about a couple of the recent documentaries he's watched including Murder Mountain, the Fyre Fest documentary, and Avicii's documentary. It's a good one, come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah. Woo. What an introduction. Holy moly. How are you, brother? I mean, we'll get into some things here. Kansas City Chiefs game, not your best game of all time, but you got away from it a little bit. How's the mindset

after being the first guy to ever, ever break the points record and also maybe a guy who's just going to keep stacking that on in your 24th season? You have to look back on this season and be excited about yourself. It was a good year.

You know, all in all, it was fun. First, let me start by saying adam chefner never ever talked to me i don't know where he gets his i never talked to me i know i know i had a conversation with you a week ago but our three or four days ago but never talked to him so where he's getting his intel i don't know what's going on with that but going back to the season uh yeah you know it was a it was a it was an interesting year we started off slow as a team and and then we turned it around and was kind of like there was no hotter team in the league we just uh you know it would have been nice to start a little faster have some home field playoff games and who knows how far we could have went

i agree you did talk to me last week you did tell me that you were planning on coming back i chose not to release that information because i think our friendship is much more important than me getting 10 000 retweets although getting 10 000 retweets is very important you should have did it then you know that's that certain things are more important you know i appreciate that but like i said i haven't i haven't really talked to anybody other than uh and I guess the GM a little bit last week, and we just kind of expressed our interests and that kind of stuff. And, you know, I really loved how the season kind of finished

up until the last playoff game. You know, the guys were really playing well. We got a good, young, powerful team moving forward with some great leadership. And, man, I tell you what, if we can start like we kind of finished the season off, we should have a real good season next year. And, you know, nothing against the guys that are playing now. I know football's not over, but I'm excited for next year and our team moving forward.

I think the culture inside the Colts right now is like it was back in the day. It felt like the team liked each other, which is a big deal in sports. You're the only guy who has won the Super Bowl, well, not only for the Patriots, but for the Colts, and you're still in the locker room from them from two regimes ago, almost three regimes ago you've been around. What is the feeling like in the building? If it's similar to the past, new, what do you think it's like? It's awesome. You know, on teams that have won championships and got to the big game and all that, there's a certain vibe and feel in the locker room. You know, everybody always

talks about how there's a brotherhood in that locker room. There's not a bunch of dissension. There's not a bunch of guys that kind of go off on their own. It's really a team atmosphere. And I really started feeling that this year. I really did. I think you really have to credit Chris Ballard for bringing in players and guys and hiring Frank. And I tell you, you can't say enough good things about Frank as well. He's a type of a coach that he's always very constant. Guys know what to expect from him. The highs aren't too high. The lows aren't too low. He's very steady every day, and guys can really feel good about that.

And, you know, having Andrew back was a big thing. And then, you know, we got some really good young superstars, some all pros, some guys that really did a nice job. And that's to credit, you know, those two gentlemen I said, Chris and Frank, about bringing in the right type of personnel, bringing in the right draft choices that could not only play well, but good locker room guys, good team guys. And it's fun to watch because, you know, everybody sat there at the beginning of the season saying we were, you know, dead last in power rankings.

We're going to finish dead last. And, you know, we didn't disappoint people the first five or six games, but we really turned it on and showed people that we've got a lot of juice and some good young players. And I think moving forward, we're just going to build on that. And it's a great locker room. It's a fun group of guys to be around, guys work their butts off, unselfishly wanting to get better

and help the team. And I think this team is really on the uphill, you know, is really, really climbing. I think we're noticing that Frank Reich outside of that Philadelphia Eagles locker room could be a bigger problem than anybody could have guessed. There's a lot of rumors coming out that Frank could handle the egos between Carson Wentz, Foles, and everybody in there. I don't know if that's true, but from my vision,

Frank Reich looks like an incredible head coach. Speaking of incredible head coaches, you used to kick at a place, obviously, that has been on this run of success that nobody can compare. I think it's going to be impossible. 13 AFC Championship games in 17 years for Tom Brady. You were there. You started this whole thing off with the snow kick, the tuck rule,

then the Super Bowl championships over there. Why are the Patriots so damn good for so long, do you think, Vinny? Man, I tell you what, and I'll be the first one to admit, every year you hear the experts saying, oh, they're getting too old, they don't have the juice. And I start to believe, you know, you start hearing that and believing it, and then they just turn around and keep doing exactly what they did every year. You know, everybody sits there and says, Tom's getting too old, this or that.

And every year, year in and year out, he just keeps showing up and playing in these big games and finding ways to win. And I tell you, between having him as your quarterback and having Bill Belichick as your head coach, I tell you, between having him as your quarterback and having Bill Belichick as your head coach, he can make an amazing team with whatever he's got. I mean, he just puts a game plan together. He gets guys to really excel and play to their utmost talent.

And I tell you what, you know, halfway through the season, everybody's talking, well, the Patriots maybe don't have it. And I always just sit there and shake my head and laugh because as long as Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are there, they're going to be one of those teams that are always in the mix and in the hunt. And sure enough, they always show up for the big games. I saw, you know, a quote or something earlier that says, man, people just can't wait till Tom retires. Well, myself included, you know, being on an opposing team when he's playing and Belichick's coaching, it's always a tough day when you have to go against those guys, that's for sure.

Did Belichick teach you anything mentally, you think, or anything whenever you were there that has made you become the greatest of all time at your position, whether it was something he did in practice, something he said to you in a team meeting, something the way he carried himself? Is there anything that you took away from your era or your time with the Patriots where you're like, you know what? That has made me become the greatest kicker of all time. Well, I don't think it not only made me better,

but it made everybody in that building better. I wouldn't say it's always a fun, comfortable place. I mean, you're always on check, I guess. You know, everybody's always looking to every single time you do anything, they expect the best out of you. And you know what? He made players play better. I mean, he took average players and made them great,

and great players even better, you know. And the thing that he can do really, really well is there's in the National Football League in 2019. Now, there's plenty of egos and plenty of people that feel a certain way, but he can take a group of men and make them play together. I remembered, you know, there was a slogan on the wall that says do your job. And I think he could do, he can make guys do that as well or better than anybody out there. Make sure you knew exactly what you were supposed to do individually and then put a game plan together that if everybody did their job, drank the Kool-Aid, so to say, you had a chance of winning games. And I think as you see that year in and year out, it's easy for new draft choices or free agents to come in and believe in the schemes and the philosophies. And when everybody buys in, it doesn't matter how good the scheme is one way or another. If everybody's on the same page and everybody's doing exactly what you're

supposed to, you're a hard team to beat. Did you expect this from Dwayne Allen and Philip Dorsett? I mean, I remember watching Philip Dorsett make one-handed grabs on the sideline, jumping up and snagging it, making huge plays in practice. But then in the game, he'd, like, disappear. And Dwayne Allen, I don't know what happened with him. He was hot with us early, and then he kind of stopped getting the ball. Something happened. I have no idea what happened in the locker room.

Those two have gotten a restart up there and it seems what's happens anytime you get into that patriot places you get a restart you get a chance to dominate here and is that why because he just expects everybody to do their job and it's like one singular vision and focus i think so i think everybody has a role when you get to that team, any team, every team, you have a certain role. But I think those two guys are playmaker type guys. play well, you're going to get some shots. And credit both of those two players. They've done a really nice job over there. Phillips making big catches that are turning out to be touchdowns the last few weeks. And Dwayne as well. I mean, they're both playing very, very well and had a resurgent in their career.

And kudos to them. You know, I'm happy for those guys. You know, they're former teammates and friends of mine. So, you know, I want to cheer them on and hopefully they do well do you remember dorsett would make like once a week he'd make a top 10 sports center top 10 catch in practice and then he wouldn't do shit in the game i was like what are we we're not even giving i don't even think we're giving him the ball i don't even think i think he might have been like the fifth option on a lot of plays and then in practice he'd be on like the scout team playing against our

our um our starting defense and he'd be going up in this crowd and just i'm like where why are we doing these on wednesday like why why is this all happening on a fucking wednesday and why it was it was a very it was an interesting thing you've got to see a lot of football in your life and every time i go to these tv networks and they ask me i get asked the same question it's like as a kicker a punter do you think you can break down the game like other people do i'm like yo i had a front row fucking seat to a lot of things man and vinitary you've been doing this for 24 years now your football iq is i i would say i mean let's put a bella check ahead of you i guess because we have to but in tom brady but your football iq is next level i mean situational wise most situations in football revolve around special teams decisions at the end of it whether

it's the end of a half the beginning of a half going for it on fourth downs situational shit is normally all surrounding around special teams. So those who are affected by it normally have to invest in it, which is what me and Vinatieri did. When you leave the game of football, are you going to coach? Are you going to go hunt? Are you going to be a media man? What are you going to be with this wealth of knowledge

that you have in the football world? Well, I don't know. I don't know if I'm ever going to quit playing football. So, you know, I don't know. I don't know if I'm ever going to quit playing football. I don't know. I'm just kidding. Hey, do you... Hey, hold on. This is man-to-man talking.

We can't dump this if your answer's wrong. Do you think when you retire from football, you're going to die like Paterno? I hope not. I got way too many things on my bucket list that I want to do. If the good Lord takes me away, I'm going to be pissed because there's too many things that I still want to do when it's finally time to be done. That's for sure. I see that too. I see that too. You know, you see these people that work their whole life and when they stop, they just,

they stop living. Not for me. I got a bunch of family stuff. I'm enjoying watching my kids grow and play sports and do all that stuff. So that's, that's a ton of fun, but yeah, you'll probably find me on the mountain somewhere, uh, chasing after some animals and stuff like that. But I don't think I'll ever get completely away from football. I love it too much. You know, I love the relationships that you build and, and hopefully, you know, hopefully I don't see myself coaching. I think those guys put and God bless them, but they put in tons and tons and tons of hours, hours that most people don't see and realize unless you're in the building.

And so, you know you know, they're the unsung heroes that help guys perform and do the best that they can do. And, and they don't, they don't get the recognition that they probably deserve unless you're a superstar coach, like, you know, like the coaches that we're discussing that have won championships and Super Bowls and all that. But, you know, the other, the assistant coaches that put in, you know, 100 hour work weeks and sleep at home and don't go home till midnight and they're back in the building at 430 in the morning. That's a, that's a huge commitment and maybe a little more than I'm willing to do at this point. Hey man, you're way too rich to be doing that shit.

Yeah, man. You're about to start collecting your 401K soon. You're also collecting an NFL paycheck. I'm not sure if you'll ever retire, but we're all lucky to watch you work, my brother. You're an impressive human. You look good this year, too. You're hitting the ball well at your old-ass age. I appreciate you, buddy.

Well, the fun thing is I still enjoy doing it as much as ever and miss you out there holding every once in a while. You always used to get me to work way back into the range, and I still try to do that to this day. If you're hitting them from 60, then when you step out there at 50 yards, they're not quite as scary. So I appreciate you always pushing me to the limits on that and still trying to do that stuff.

I loved it, man, in practice. How many would kick in a day? Vinny would be like 8 to 10? And then I would set where the kicks would be, right? So it was like Tom McMahon let us handle it. Vinny would just tell us the number he wants to kick, and then I would set it. We'd start out on a close one to the hash, And then we bounce around every single fucking kick. He was like

40 some years old at this point, every single kicking session, two times a week, we were ending at at least 60, depending on how he kicked it the last one. And we could even go back. I felt like I had a pretty good measure though, on exactly how far you had each day. Honestly, I feel like I did have a good measure or a good read on that. Yeah, you were spot on. I mean, as long as I was hitting them well, the last kick would be just a foot or a yard over. You did a nice job with that. I think you had a better eye for it than I did.

I would just trust you and swing away and let you do the work. You were my spotter, you know what I mean? Yeah, I really was. Like I said, there was one where it was probably a probably a 56 or 57 yarder but he hit it thin right so i knew you hit it thin but it still went in but like it might have hit the upright one in and i was like all right we're gonna go back 61 we're gonna go back 61 and tom mcmahon was like four fucking yards we just hit the thing i was like i hit it thin he hit it thin he hit it thin and i think vinnie heard tom mcmahon talking shit to him and i was like oh yeah even better even better what you just did

and he would bomb it nope it was like an electric atmosphere in there too when vinny would hit a long one because it's in the middle of practice they stop practice for the field goal to happen it's kind of like a break for a lot of people offensive line just getting their steps d lines getting their steps but everybody stops whenever somebody's hitting a 60-some-yard field goal, and it goes in, and they're like, holy sh-okay, round of applause. Let's go ahead and end this practice off on a good note. You were the man. You're fun to watch, and I can't wait to see you next year for your 24th season.

I appreciate you, buddy. Well, and if there's any breaking news, it's coming out of you first, not Adam Scheffner, you know what I mean? Well, see, that's the – I don't want to do because I don't want you to it's it's a fine balance I have a lot of information right now about the NFL that people text me and tell me and I don't know if they tell me to break the news if they're just giving me a heads up to prep for it but I never want to ruin that friendship thing with people if that makes I never want I never want people to think that they can they can't tell me like Scheffner's life there's no way he can talk to any human the any human anywhere about football people to think that they can't tell me. Like, Schefter's life, there's no way he can talk to any human,

any human anywhere about football and not think that this is potentially getting leaked everywhere. I don't know. Right on. You know what I mean? No, you're absolutely right. Yep, yep. It's a thin line, that's for sure.

Well, until I go broke, I won't start fucking celebrating. Vinny, I appreciate you, man. Take care. Adam Vinicius. My pleasure, buddy. Good to talk to you. You too. Cheers, man. All right, buddy. Take care, bud. Yeah, you appreciate you, man. Take care. My pleasure, buddy. Good to talk to you. You too. Cheers, man.

All right, buddy. Take care, bud. Yeah, you too. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now to discuss the championship weekend. That was. He's an Italian. He's handsome. He's successful.

He's on the television. He's on the internet. Not on those suck sites, Gorman. I'm talking about all over the NFL. One of the voices of the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together for the founder of Pro Football Talk, friend of the show, Mike Florio. Patrick, thank you.

Hello. Hey. We meet again. Hey, I had to text you to have you on today even though you're on last week and i thank you so much for taking time out of it let's get right to it how does bill vinovich's crew fucking miss that helmet the helmet spear and pass interference on that play which would have sealed the game for the saints basically and sent the city of new orleans to the super bowl worth hundreds of millions of dollars,

not only for the franchise, the players, the town, the city, everything. How do they miss that, Mike? We know when you watch the replay, you can see there's an official looking right at the collision between the Kel Roby Coleman and Tommy Lee Lewis. And I think what happens is you've got middle-aged and older people out there expected to try to, number one, survive amid early 20-somethings, gladiators in full gear, and they're moving around quickly,

and you're trying not to get trampled, and then you're also trying to see what's happening in real time with the naked eye. And I think that the game moves too fast at times for the naked eye. And in that first glance, it doesn't sometimes look as obvious, as blatant, as egregious as it maybe is. And I know watching it yesterday when it first happened, I thought, oh, that's close. That may not be a foul.

And then on replay, you slow it down a little bit. It's like, oh, my God, he wipes him out before the ball gets there. And I just think that it's just a basic reality. These guys sometimes miss the play. And that's why I've been an advocate for a long time of having someone there who is watching in a booth, who is a member of the crew, who is there to help them, not as a replay function, but just as a second set of eyes that is actually watching what we see at home to bridge that gap between what those officials are trying to see in real time while they're, number trying to stay alive and number two what the rest of us are

seeing at home and hopefully the nfo is going to move in that direction i've never heard they've considered it but that's that's the easiest and simplest way to fix it because you just can't catch every one of these plays in real time and sometimes you need some help i don't know if this is what the mls does but a lot of people showed up in my comments and were like in soccer there's a guy that's in his headset that's like or a woman sorry that i meant guy like random human in the headset while they're on the field like no no no that isn't the right call or yes yes yes that is the right call i think that would be an easy fix for this entire situation and also speed up the fucking game.

Every time one of these reviews happens, it puts a complete pause button on the flow of the game. There has to be a way to expedite the entire process. Yeah, and I say get somebody and put that person in black and white stripes. Make them a member of the crew and have them feel like a member of the crew. They travel with the crew. They're part of the crew. They go to meetings with the crew. They travel with the crew. They're part of the crew. They go to meetings with the crew. They just aren't on the field.

They are at that same vantage point the rest of us have. And you do it quickly. You make it efficient. And you still have the separate replay function. But you know what? You wouldn't need to use the replay function all that often because so many of the obvious mistakes would be fixed immediately. And you would fix any mistake, whether it's something that's reviewable,

not reviewable, anything that that person sees, that would be a reflection of what we see. When we shout at the TV saying, what in the hell is going on, that's the person who's there to essentially be the voice of us saying, what the hell are you doing? Fix it.

It makes too much sense because they do that huddle up anyways. They do a little huddle up on the field, and they're not allowed to look at the Jumbotron for whatever reason. Normally, whenever they're huddled up, you hear the crowd react, either for or against whatever call they're about to make. In that huddle, you get Cousy who's up in the booth, and the stripes just be like, yep, we all just saw the same replay that you guys are wrong.

Just no flag. Pick that fucker up. We got second down. Let's keep it moving. Then they come out of the huddle. They like heroes we're picking up the flag boom it's like nothing even happened there if the coaches still want to challenge the coaches can still challenge whatever they want to do let's take a little bit of a longer look but that does seem hey mike that does seem like the right answer to this whole thing and pat have been saying for four or five years and here's the way the n operates. They don't fix these problems proactively. They wait for something embarrassing to happen, and then all of a sudden they have to come up with a solution. It's always reactive,

not proactive. And I don't know how you run a multi-billion dollar business that way. That's the embarrassing aspect of it. They never get creative ahead of time and try to spot the things that could blow up on them. They wait for something to blow up and then they act like they had no idea it could blow up. Yeah, that's the plain defense style of everything. Let's just see what happens

and then we'll fend it off if it arises because it doesn't matter until it matters, Mike. We all know that. That's the football world. How about on the other side there? The blatant missed call on the roughing the passer where Cousy slaps Tom Brady in the shoulder. That's on a third down. They pick up a nice first down there.

Dee Ford, what an idiot of a human, six inches off sides. The entire city of Kansas City, Missouri, and Kansas City, Kansas, two cities would have burned down if that happens. I mean, the AFC game had a lot of question marks in it as well, Mr. Florio. Yeah. But, Andy, you know what? The same thing we're discussing, that same procedure could be used for the roughing the passer call.

You could have the video official dial into Cleet Blakeman instantly and say, hey, Cleet, you weren't really in a good position to see that. He actually didn't hit him in the head pick up the flag and so the the next thing you know cleat blakeman says there's no foul for roughing the passer and you move on and we do see that all the time when a flag gets thrown and and then 10 seconds later they tell us there's no penalty so that's that's what you mean gene steratore was on cbs and he said hey i don't want to defend cleat here but you know he's not in a position to really see that. Well, he threw the flag. He thought he was. And if there's that extra set of eyes

that is in a booth that can say to him, hey, Cleet, you're wrong, then that's the best way to fix it. And that's another example of how useful that would be. You know, there's a lot of Rams fans who are salty because there was a Jared Goff face mask that wasn't

called. Hey, that same procedure we're talking about could be used for that too. I see this face mask in every game it seems like. Wild Card weekend, there was at least one in three of the four games. So you have that device in place. You know, again, anything we're yelling about, because we see it on a 70-inch flat screen, there should be somebody there who can yell that same way. It makes too much sense to not do it. It made too much sense to not do it before yesterday now after yesterday

they it's almost like they had no choice but to embrace something like that we'll see if they do you said you've been on by the way i don't enjoy you just taking that ricochet shot at goddamn gene steratore italian from pittsburgh you should have a little respect but uh you you said you've been saying this for four or five years now this is this is the did you think of this do you deserve credit for this if this comes in to be is this the florio rule or is this did you get this from somebody else no i mean look i and this isn't like i discovered plutonium i mean it's pretty much by the way you know i mean it's it's i think it just makes it just makes sense I've been bothered by that gap between what the officials see and what we see.

And that's the problem. Pat, you've been there. When you're in the middle of it all, it feels different and it looks different than it does coming through a screen at home. And they need to get that gap between what the officials see and what we see closed. And that's the easiest way to do it. And replay review is too formal. It takes too long. It's too limited.

They need to embrace the technology. And I've said this before as well. They need to just tear the officiating function down and rebuild it in light of all modern technologies. This is something that was crafted when the game first started 100 years ago, and they make little tweaks and they make little twists and they evolve it and they evolve it. It needs a revolution, not an evolution, and they make little tweaks, and they make little twists, and they evolve it, and they evolve it. It needs a revolution, not an evolution, and maybe that's what happens with this.

Although, I don't think they're nearly willing enough. This isn't bad enough to get them to say we have to completely rebuild the officiating function. But this other thing, yeah, I've been saying it for a few years, and I knew all along at some point it's going to become relevant because there's going to be big enough of a screw up to make it relevant. Hey, you sound like you're running for office there. We need a revolution, not an evolution.

We need this. This is a genius idea. No, we'll see if they do anything with it. Sometimes I feel like if they don't think of it themselves, they won't do it. Like they won't embrace things from college football because college does it that way so we don't because college does it that way, so we

don't want to do it that way, whether it's overtime, whether it's the college replay system. I think there are people on the competition committee that love the college replay system because it's quick, it's efficient, it's all handled on site, and they never have these controversies, and they far more often than not seem to get things right.

Mike, Mike, Mike, you can throw a Red Sox on a spot. That's a referee things right. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, you can throw a red sock on a spot. That's a referee's right there. That's him saying, hey, I believe the spot is right here. Coach can throw a red sock on the spot, questioning that referee. Why can't the same be said for a pass interference or holding or defensive holding? Well, you know, it's a judgment call.

And I get so sick of hearing that. Well, we can't look at these judgment calls. Well, you know what? Sometimes judgment is so poorly get so sick of hearing that. Well, we can't look at these judgment calls. Well, you know what? Sometimes judgment is so poorly exercised, it's obvious, and you need to fix it, just like yesterday with Tommy Lee Lewis getting wiped out. I don't know if you guys have seen the coach's tape. It'll be available on Game Pass tomorrow, but I've got to look at that play. Nickel Robey Coleman was so grossly out of position.

He's just like, oh crap. And he ran across the field and, you know, he could have played the ball and maybe had a pick six, but he just wiped it out.

And it's clear that it was pass interference. And I don't care if it's a judgment call. There are some occasions where it's clearly wrong, whether you call it

or whether you don't call it. And I think all of those things should be reviewable. Bill Belichick's been demanding that for years. And there are some people in the NFL who think that because Bill Belichick has been yelling for it so loudly, that's one of the reasons why they won't do it,

because they don't want to admit that Belichick is right. Isn't that a screwed-up way to run a billion-dollar business as well? Greatest coach of all time. Let's not listen to him. He's a fucking idiot, and he cheats. That's probably what people say all the time. The Patriots dynasty is incredible. I don't need to ask you about that, even though you have incredible thoughts.

What I will ask you about, though, Deion Sanders did the TV rounds this morning. The internet did their thing. A lot of people not happy with the fact that because Slater called heads, Tom Brady gets the ball. Pat Mahomes walked his team right down the goddamn field in less than a minute to send that game into overtime there. They thought Patty mahomes should get a chance to see the ball in overtime no matter how successful the patriots are how do you fix the nfl overtime or do you change it at all you just mentioned the review going to the college style do you like that more

than the nfl rules what is your take on the whole nfl overtime thing well if we're going to keep the overtime the way that it is with the current structure where it's still being played from scrimmage, I like the idea of the team that kicked off getting a chance to match any score, whatever that score is on the first possession. You get a chance to match or beat.

Nine years ago, when the Saints beat the Vikings with a walk-off field goal after winning the coin toss, and they got a couple of ticky-tack penalties, and they got the field goal range, and that's it. It's over, and Brett Favre doesn't get a chance to get on the field. I never thought that it should be only a field goal that gets to be matched.

I think any score should get to be matched, and I hear people say, well, the defense has to make a play. Well, yeah, so does the other defense, but the other defense never had a chance to have to make a play because it was never on the field. You know, we have all these rules that are skewed in favor of the offense. How can we expect the defense to have equal footing and an equal chance to stop an offense in this day and age? Why not give both teams an opportunity? Now, for the regular season, you can end up having games that go longer than they need to be. You could have more ties. I mean, I've been a proponent of just the concept of putting the ball at the 10-yard line.

My dad used to take me to high school games when I was a kid, and I remember one of those games went to overtime, and in West Virginia they put the ball on the 10. Well, screw the 25. Put it on the 10. Make it first and goal. People lose their shit when I say that. It's like, oh, it's not football.

Of course it's football. They're not going to come out and play golf. It's not football. The ball's on the 10. It's like, oh, it's not football? Of course it's football. They're not going to come out and play golf? The ball's on the 10. It's first and goal. You've got four cracks at scoring, and you go to score. And if they want to move it along even faster than that, say you can't go for one, you always have to go for two. Not on the third round, but on the first round.

And there are ways to make it better. There are ways to make it more equitable, and there are ways to reduce the number of total reps. Because in the regular season, that's one of the real concerns. You don't want teams taking an extra 50 snaps in an overtime setting. So if you would do first and goal for the 10, you get the thing done. They sell hockey games now with shootouts. They sell soccer games with shootouts.

Why not do something a little bit different that would be fun, that would be exciting, and it moves the game along, and you get a winner, and both teams feel like they had a fair chance to win. And also, in the regular season, if they're not going to extend overtime, put the kickers out there. We'll line them up at 50, 55, 60, 65, winning just like a shootout. Make it happen. Put a little pressure on them, and you decide a winner.

The loser of the kickoff can get one point. Winner gets two points, whatever it is, just like in hockey. All right, Fleury, I got to let you go. I'm shocked. I'm shocked. Hey, I'm shocked you would want it to be determined by kicker. Well, I just think it makes the game better. I mean, whenever a kicker hits a 57-yarder,

everybody loses their goddamn shit, no matter how bad the refs were birdboxing before that. All right, Fleury, I got to let you go. Let me give you a quick idea that I had a couple years ago that I need to dust off. One idea I had that I thought would be exciting as hell. You put both teams on the field. You put the offense and defense at one end, one team versus the other,

and you put the others at the other end, and you just go back and forth, going for two like a shootout until somebody makes it and somebody doesn't. And wouldn't that be something? You just keep going back and forth with 22 guys at each end of the field just banging away at it from the two-yard line. Well, the coin toss would be a big deal there because, I mean, depending on win situation, also where fans are set up, you would want your defense on one side as the other.

But now both sides of the stadium get to play a role. Hey, Florio. Exactly. Hey, you've got a lot of good football ideas. I don't know if you know that. Nobody listens to me. You're the only one who listens to me. Why don't you get in the league office,

and then I can feed you these ideas, and you can climb to the top of the mountain? Commissioner Florio. They don't want to listen to me. It's because, you know why. It's because we're Italian. They're like Italians. Yep.

Hey, heads or tails, I'm going to do a coin toss. What's the world coming to? They're not like Italians. She's president against Italians. What's the world coming to? Seriously. Unbelievable. It's getting smarter, I think some would say.

Heads or tails by you, Florio? Tails. Wow. That's a wild guess. Normally you bet on your dick. What's that? It's a tail by you, Florio. It's a tail. Congratulations. You just walked down the field, won the game.

Thank you so much for the interview. Follow along at Pro Football Talk. PFTPM is his podcast. In the AM, field, won the game. Thank you so much for the interview. Follow along at Pro Football Talk. PFTPM is his podcast. In the AM, he's on the radio, NBC Sports Radio. He's on NBC Sports Television. And he should be in the New York office of the NFL fixing the league. Thank you so much, Mike Fleury. You're the man.

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and so much drama that i i have no first of all i don't know why they don't do a Saturday night game and a Sunday night game. Because all day Saturday, I'm just sitting around. I'm like, I've really... There was nothing to watch, so I watched a bunch of documentaries. I got a chance to catch up, which we will talk about. That Fyre Festival was wild, bro. Billy McFarland

is a motherfucking cocksucker of next level cocksucker like I have never seen in my entire life. But let's get to the football. They should have gone Saturday, Sunday. I don't know. They need to change that for next year.

Just for people like me who have nothing else going on and when a blizzard hits and ice hits and you're not allowed to leave your house, that would have been nice for most of the country. But let's get to it. We'll start with the Patriots and Chiefs game strictly because I assume that one hits a lot closer to home for a lot of us in this room the patriots come out and dominate dominate dominate dominate tom bro report comes out

that tom brady walked into the patriots facility earlier in the week and said i'm the baddest motherfucker on the planet on the planet there's navy seals out there there's fucking there's a lot of bad motherfuckers out there tom brady walks into the the patriots facility supposedly and says i'm the baddest motherfucker on the planet as soon as i seen that as soon as i seen that i want patriots plus three patriots money line and then i even bet again on the page so I want max bet on the money line and then came back on it max bet on the money line again because it didn't matter in my eyes it seemed like it didn't matter what the Chiefs do Tom Brady has somehow convinced himself he has convinced himself so in that interview we talked about it where he said a lot of people saying we

suck we can't win games. We'll see. Then he goes and says, I'm the baddest motherfucker on the planet. Then he puts out a hype video hours before the game. This is a full heel turn for Tom Brady. Normally, the fans, the Patriots fans, are kind of the ones that make him the bad guy. This is Tom Brady playing full heel, and there's no way that he's going to lose after that situation.

With that being said, they come out and dominate. Then the Chiefs bounce back at halftime. Old Andy Reid, who normally shits down his knickers, is what Gorman says, put together a plan. Patty Mahomes came back. They got a couple stops. And then at the end of that game, D Ford. D motherfucking Ford.

This is the same situation as Malcolm Butler on the goal line against the Seattle Seahawks. This is the same situation as Adam Vinatieri kicking a no-make kick through the uprights. Way to begin this thing against the Oakland Raiders. The tuck rule. It seems as if these things happen for Tom Brady. And with that being said,

that's why I bet on Tom Brady to happen. But that's a pick to send the Chiefs to the Super Bowl. Just line up on side. Just fucking line up on side. That is a pick to send the Chiefs to the Super Bowl. That is a pick to make the baddest motherfucker on the planet comment come

completely full circle on Tom Brady. That is a pick that ends the dynasty and helps most of America sleep better. But no, no, no, no, no, Cleet Blakeman says. No, no, no, no, no. You see Dee Ford here lined up six inches too far

in advance. As soon as that happens, we all knew what was happening. As soon as that happens, that ain't going to happen again. As a Patriots fan, it had to feel good. It had to be an emotional fucking roller coaster, to be honest with you. It was tough. I mean, I think Fox can attest.

I was standing probably from halfway through the third quarter until the end of the game. He was. I mean, it was a roller coaster. I think most of America was, by the way. Yeah. Most of America's watching that hoping that the Chiefs win, right? Sam, my lady, whenever that pick happens,

she normally doesn't, a full scream. She was like, yes! Excited because she bet on the Chiefs, but also because she was excited to see the Chiefs. This is like the new guard here coming in. But no, no, no. Just like the phantom, the phantom roughing the passer. Unbelievable.

Just all these things seem to happen for Tom Brady. It just seems that they all, the only thing that fights against this cause or this idea that Tom Brady is the most lucky quarterback in history is the four-game suspension from Roger Goodell from something that happened two years before that. That is kind of the only down thing that has ever happened to Tom Brady. But aside from that, this guy is just a fucking golden boy. He's a golden boy.

Except for the three lost Super Bowls, too. People forget about those. See, in my head, like a lost Super Bowl is – I mean, because I was in one, and I did lose one. I was a part of a team that lost one. What they have accomplished here What is this? This is the ninth Super Bowl? More than any other team

has been to. 13th AFC Championship game in 17 seasons. It is an unbelievable dominating performance from beginning to end for Tom Brady but boy the Chiefs are going to fucking regret that for a long, long, long time.

Long time. Now they're playing the bad boys for life. We ain't going nowhere. We ain't going nowhere. We can't be stopped. I love a good throwback Tom Brady, by the way. Now that he's bringing all these old school songs back into rotation, I'm a big fan of that. Him and Gronk in that selfie video how about burkhead is that his name yeah

rex he was aj i was doing a show with aj hawk um and he talked about burkhead being this guy whenever he was on a team with him he's like i was i was teammates with rex he is unbelievable it's just that's like a patriots player just a classic patriots player he's gonna do everything right for you he's gonna make big plays james white michelle and tony fucking romo god unbelievable he's so good he played better than brady yesterday he was outrageous i know there's some people that don't love tony romo i might have been on the early his sound effects they could just chill the fuck out. And even yesterday during the game, he had some big misses.

But the way he can see a game is next level to me. If he didn't have the body of like Ty Schmidt, you see a guy, if he was like 6'4", or something like that, and had like the QB... He knows where to go with the ball.

Exactly. I think that's what's happening in his head is whenever he's doing all that, like last night, whenever he went to sleep after the game where he called everything that Tom Brady was going to do. So he was in Tom Brady's brain, basically. He has to have that memory. He's like, if I was just as tall as Tom,

if I was just as tall as Tom and could throw a ball just as good as Tom and was with the Patriots, I could have been Tom Brady. That's what Tony Romo has to be thinking. But he was giving me things to look for yes that I've never ever encountered before and I started thinking back in the Rolodex of commentators and analysts I think a lot of guys might try to do that early in their career like oh look for the post here from this and then they're wrong and then what happens the TV people tell them like hey stop stop trying to guess what's happened

just call the game as it comes right tony romo from beginning to end here seems like they're like yeah we need you to start predicting the calls more there was one time where he's like gronk's gonna get chipped running back's gonna get chipped then he's gonna hit julian edelman over the middle and this isn't a four second period right before the fucking ball snapped he's like drawing circles chip here chip here edelman's coming down the middle and then lo and behold, if you just watch the exact thing and turn around and he's just going, that motherfucker

was spot the fuck on. Even on running plays, he's like, well, they got to call a draw here when it was like third and 17, which a lot of people do know, but sometimes it isn't always a draw. Fucking right on cue. The game winning run, he goes, Kansas City has got to sell out here. They're about to run this ball. Kansas City's got to sell out here and then all of to run this ball. Kansas city's got to sell out here.

And then all of a sudden, Burkhead just right down the middle. And I'm like, Tony Romo just called that entire last drive right there. Just called the entire thing. I don't know why somebody, and I tweeted this. I don't know why somebody doesn't back the brink struck up and just dump it

in Tony Romo's fucking yard and be like, yo, just be our D coordinator, bro. Just for a fucking 25, just 25 minutes a week we just need you right before the game and maybe just get on the horn with our fucking actual d coordinator and be like oh probably right over the middle of julian edmund it looks like it's

going oh look they got gronk singled up top okay if that safety crashes down they're gonna go right back to gronk then the safety sorensen comes down it's right to gronk yep it was unbelievable i felt like i was learning football for the first time. I felt like a little kid. Do you think he watches film for all these teams? No. Probably knows no research at all. What the fuck was that?

Well, like Collinsworth does it all weekend, all week. Every team, he breaks it down. You think he does the same amount? Yeah. I assume. You think Tony Romo knows exactly what's going to happen without watching film i thought it was a core back mind this is unbelievable that was one of the dumbest things you've ever said in your entire life he definitely did not mean to be dumb no no no that was not like a zito fucking that was it was fun to watch but watching tom brady on that last drive we all knew

what was going to happen right we all know what's going to happen but then he left what 40 some seconds for patty mahomes yeah it's like wait a minute now maybe they gave old patty mahomes too much time they go down the field and then again it was just that was a classic shoot i think i said 40 points in the fourth quarter 38 yeah that's un-fuckable under betters poor under betters man they had to have it locked the only thing i bet was patriots plus three patriots money line and i hammered it again after the quotes came out and i made good money this weekend off of my book And they had to have it locked. The only thing I bet was Patriots plus three, Patriots money line. And I hammered it again after the quotes came out. And I made good money this weekend off of my book.

I felt real good about it. But that fucking game was outrageous. That's exactly what football is supposed to be, man. Yes. A full-on roller coaster. A full-on roller coaster. Now, granted, a couple bad calls. A couple bad rules, too.

Let's go to the rules. I don't like this overtime for the AFC Championship games, man. Give Mahomes the football. That's all I'm asking. I know. That's all I'm asking. Just give him the football. I'm not saying he's going to win, but give him a chance to drive his team down the field. I saw that reaction out of everybody, too.

But the Chiefs knew, right? The Chiefs knew. Slater calls heads. We want the ball into the ref's mic, by the way. Great call by Slater. Send a special teamer out there to call heads's mic, by the way. Great call by Slater. Send a special teamer out there to call heads or tails, by the way. Probably got good luck. He screams it.

I don't like the ref having to explain the overtime rules before the coin toss. Let the fucking commentators do it. If the players don't know the rules, they shouldn't fucking be out there. They don't either. I read an article. One Patriots player was on the sideline asking, if we score, will we win? Well, good. Let his fucking coach let him know then. Because Cleet Blakeman

had to do a three-minute set on the rules of the overtime there when it's echoing throughout the fight. It was just they put the refs in a bad position. There's no reason for that ref to have to explain the entire overtime rules, but Slater said, heads, we want the ball into his microphone.

I thought he did that in a clever way. He said he always calls heads, too, because his dad passed that on to him. Because God is the head of their life, so he always calls heads. So they knew he was going to call heads, right? Well, see, Reggie Wayne had him, Ben Terry said he always called heads because you bet on your dick. Two different philosophies.

Reggie Wayne never said it to me. He said it to Ben Terry, and Ben Terry said it to me. So it was kind of a game of telephone with Reggie Wayne never said it to me. He said it to Vin Terry. Vin Terry said it to me. So it was kind of a game of telephone with Reggie Wayne there. It's a real shame. But yeah, I believe that it would be nice if Mahomes got the ball. I don't like the college rules, though. Everybody's like, go to the college rules. I was like, I think those rules suck, too.

I think they take away. Mostly because I'm a punter. So I think they take away a huge part of the game. Another thing, they kept zooming in on Julian Edelman's thumbs. I thought it was his bicep. I did too, yeah. They kept saying... But if you look at that thumb again, there's a little quiver.

And I'm looking right at you, Connor. There's a little quiver when they show all the angles. They showed the other angle and it was an optical illusion. That's the most Patriots bounce of all fucking time. I think it hit his bicep. I don't know. That one angle looked like there was about a three-inch gap between his bicep and the ball. See, I didn't see that.

I saw it with his hand. When they showed both sides, I agreed that it didn't touch him. But from the one angle, it looked like hitting his bicep caused the ball to turn. You're like, oh, yeah. So whenever they kept showing the thumb angle from the side, like the optical illusion side, they're like, look, it hits his thumb. And then they showed it straight on. It was nowhere near his thumb. So it's like, okay, so that automatically disqualifies that.

The bicep, I didn't think they showed an angle that showed no bicep. To be honest, I didn't think they showed. There was like a shadow, I guess, that showed up on his bicep there. But they kept zooming. I thought they were zooming in on the wrong parts, personally. And remember, those refs only see what the tv people say that is in that is a tv there and that guy cleat blakeman with his little earpiece in he's looking at the little tiny little screen that is not he's not doing shit there that he's just standing there he might as well be talking to himself they're not even talking to him they're talking amongst each other in there

i think they're listening to the announcers, too, to see what the announcers are saying in New York, in the headquarters there where they have all the TVs. But they kept zooming in on the hands. I didn't think it was the hands because it was clearly showed on there. I thought his bicep maybe hit him. But what are we, a millimeter away from the Patriots? There was so many inches.

There's a millimeter from the Patriots there. An absolute an eighth of an inch for the Patriots to lose that game again. These things just continue to happen because they're the golden boys up there. I don't get it. They're going to review scoring plays whenever throughout the game. And I know it doesn't in two minutes. They should

be able to review penalties that absolutely change everything. Yeah, like the roughing the passer. The roughing the passer, like the pass interference non-call. And everybody's been saying it the last 24 hours. CFL, you can challenge those. Why not give two a half? You made a call.

I disagree with it. Let's go to the tape. Well, see, the CFL I think is kind of shitty football, but the rules are a good idea. I just said this on the Pittsburgh Morning Show. The rules are a good idea. I just said this on the Pittsburgh Morning Show. We have the challenges because technology has surpassed the human eye, right?

Like the refs, everything's happening in such a quick, quick fashion. The refs have no shot out there, especially all these old white dudes who are very unathletic. They have to keep up with these people running 4-2-40s in the ball-flying fashion it's ever run. But if you challenge something, you should be able to challenge absolutely anything. Like in that Saints game, I've been saying this for a long time now,

that Saints thing should have been challengeable. The roughing the passer against Tom Brady, that should have been challengeable. And they say if you get both challenges right, you're allowed to get another challenge. It's like, no, if I get one motherfucking challenge right i should get that back i should get that challenge back there's no reason why they should punish somebody especially if we have the technology for it if we have the technology for it which we do we have earpieces to the refs from

uh mission control or whatever in new york i don't know why they couldn't just right in the middle of the game and this is i mean I mean, I tweeted this last week, like whenever there was a ball that wasn't caught, and they're like, we have to go to review to see if it was caught. Somebody should just call one of those guys and be like, no, it's not fucking caught. You're wrong. Just go ahead and do it.

Instead of wasting the entire Microsoft Surface time, coming back in four minutes later, oh, we got to go to a fucking other commercial break, which is going to fuck us up later when we don't have a commercial break so it's going to be an awkward sit around i do believe there's a lot of advances that could be probably part of the 40 million dollars microsoft pays yeah i mean i'd rather sit around for the best hey the best microsoft service commercial was belichick fucking hawking that thing shows the ref and they just fucking gronks that thing that was beautiful that was the most emotion then he just fucking gronks that thing.

That was beautiful. That was the most emotion you've seen out of Belichick in a long time. He was worried. I think he was. I think he's very worried. You think he's very worried about the Rams?

I don't think so. No. I think that was the moment right there. I think he's going to sleep good at night. He's got two weeks now to prepare for that.

Yep. For a young quarterback too. Young Jared Goff. A few weeks of prayer for the Eagles to prepare for that. Yep. For a young quarterback too. Young Jared Goff. A few weeks of prayer for the Eagles too. On that Pittsburgh morning. True. Nick Foles. True. Nick Foles. That Pittsburgh morning show I was on. They go, alright

Brady or Goff? Who are you picking? I was like I mean are we just specifically picking Goff or Brady? I mean you gotta go. Let's go with the Ram Saints game, though. Let's dive into that. What a fucking joke, man. What a complete and utter joke.

I guess the people that aren't about it are like, well, the refs shouldn't be able to. I always say, if you win by 30, the final field goal of the game doesn't matter, right? That's always like, if a kicker misses the game, you always see people like, yeah, but if they would would have done this this and this it wouldn't came down to that and i'm always on that side because it gets a kicker out of heat i'm all about that but whenever people are saying well you should take it out of the ref's hands it's like in boxing

or fighting they take it out of the judge's hands or whatever it's like sometimes you can't like sometimes you can't in this particular case I feel like the Saints did everything they possibly could to win that game, and they clearly got fucked by Bill Vinovich. It was a pass interference. It was a helmet-to-helmet, and it was a defenseless. It was three penalties. It was three penalties in one play to win the Saints the game, basically, and it was a no-call.

I don't even know how that's possible. I don't even know how the fuck that happens if your profession is to call football games i thought fox was showing a bad angle made it look bad i saw you look bad he decleared it he literally dove at his face i haven't seen the all 22 yet to make the final judgment he looked at the ball could have picked it off probably and decided to just turn and destroy and that's the second one he had that game by the way that roby roby coleman roby coleman he said he thought it was gonna be a bang bang play but he said he knew he got there late and his exact quote was i just whacked his ass yeah he did he had one earlier in the game where he did the same thing and then he got up celebrating i was like that was definitely a pass interference by you but i like the fact

that you celebrate chris collinsworth on dan Dan Patrick's show yesterday said that Tommy Lee Lewis didn't get up looking for the flag. And he thinks that could be a reason why a flag wasn't thrown. It's like, okay, so now we're saying that players have to bitch to get calls? Yeah. Because all the players that get bitched, all they do is get yelled at for bitching the entire time. But now it's like, oh, well, maybe if he bitched there, he gets the call. It's like, all they do is get yelled at for bitching the entire time. But now it's like, oh, well, maybe if he bitched there, he gets the call.

It's like, well, what do we want from these guys? Also, maybe he didn't even remember where he was. Should have went into concussion protocol, possibly. I think, how about the Rams beat the Saints? I mean, the Rams and that ref that did not. There's two refs there that could call that pass interference, by the way. There's two of them looking in that area. So I don't think it's actually Bill Vinovich, even though he's going to get the heat for this. There's two people that could have called it.

So let's say the Rams and those two refs that clearly could have called that, which shields the game for the Saints. Let's assume they go in and score there if they get that game over. get that game over the rams and those two refs beat the saints without the reigning offensive mvp being their number one option on the field i don't know what's going on with him i think mcveigh pulled him i i there they said that there's no injury report for todd girley he was staying loose over there the announcers kept saying well there has to be something more going on here i think mcveigh sees that cj. Anderson is literally in about his second NFL week. He's in his second week as a running back. He's very fresh.

And I think he pulled the trigger for C.J. Anderson. But when it mattered, it mattered. And when they did, they put in Todd Gurley. But for a lot of that game, they had Gurley benched. That was very – He had two drops early. He was rattled early. Early.

You wonder if he didn't get a stomach bug or something and they just didn't want to say anything about it. He didn't play that much against Dallas either. He's coming off an injury, too. He ain't right. But you would have definitely thought for the Rams to win that game, they would have had to rush. He didn't play, what, the last two weeks of the year?

Yeah, C.J. Anderson had 100 yards rushing in the last two regular season games of the year, too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I would have never thought they would have pulled that game off with that amount of rushing. But last week, didn't Gurley have like a 35-yard rush where he was like pulling away from everybody? He did.

So what are we talking about? I still don't think he's healthy. I'm sorry, he ain't right. With that offensive, I mean, just the way that he advances, the way that he changes defenses and he's not in the game, something's up. He's nicked up. I mean, he's got two weeks to get ready for a Super Bowl.

If he's 100% healthy, there's no way you're putting C.J. Anderson over him. Well, that's what I think. I don't think he's nicked up i mean he's got two weeks get ready for if he's 100 healthy there's no way you're putting cj anderson over well that's what i think make i don't think he's 100 healthy it's what week 19 of the nfl nobody is 100 healthy except for cj who has him played i think that was legitimately a decision by fucking mcveigh to play cj anderson over todd girley i think that is the case not right i i mean nobody's right that but just last week he was pulling away with a knee brace on he was pulling away from people i don't know i don't know he's still in there early in the game so it can't be that hurt i don't know man i think that was mcveigh pulling the trigger on cj anderson as a fresh guy over top of todd girley now granted two weeks is eternity in the NFL to get somebody healthy,

just like for the Patriots it happened with the first-round bye. But I don't know how they beat the Patriots. Oh, whoa, whoa. Pressure up the middle. One way to beat the Patriots, get in his kitchen. Who? What did I say? The Patriots.

The Patriots. Get in his kitchen. You got Indomitia Sioux there. You got Aaron Donald there. You got outside edge rushers. Who? What did I say? The pastry-ish. Get in his kitchen. You got Indomitka Sioux there. You got Aaron Donald there. You got outside edge rushers. Get in his kitchen, and he's a different quarterback. Only team to give up no sacks this week.

That's fine. Skarnieckia is the real deal. He's the reason we're here, swear to God. But also, we're just going to assume that McDaniels, Belichick, and Brady don't know that Ndamukongsu and Aaron Donald are on the other side. I said this last week after I thought the dynasty, I was swinging towards the dynasty potentially being over last week against the Chargers because everybody was on it.

The Patriots and the Patriots fans, they just, yeah, Belichick will figure it out. That's how they feel. Belichick will figure it out. That's how they feel. Belichick will figure it out. Brady will figure it out. McDaniels will figure it out. And it's hard not to disagree with them. Like, yeah, I think they will fucking figure it out. Especially with this two weeks, man. So I read

this morning the slant play to Gronk, one of the big third down conversions. Wasn't even in the playbook. They put it in day of because they went back to the original game and they saw a one-on-one coverage with Eric Berry against Gronk and they knew he would play outside. So they knew if they had a one-on-one with Gronk and Eric Berry, they were going to slide him out and let him run inside on the slate.

And Tony Romo knew that too. Tony Romo said if Sorensen crashes here, it's one-on-one with Eric Berry on the outside. So Tony Romo is somehow sitting in that meeting room or Tony Romo is making the same call as his Josh McCann. I got a question for you. Dan Orlovsky, a guy he used to play with, he's in the media right now.

Could he do the same job that Romo's doing upstairs in that nice temperature-controlled booth suite and look down at the field, look at the players? Do you think he could do this? Or another quarterback? Or a McCown, for God's sakes. One of the McCown brothers. You think they could do the same thing?

I have no idea. All these quarterbacks have been, been color commentating for so long. They all have the opportunity to do this. They all have given it a shot, I assume. I think every color commentator has attempted to do this early, what Tony Romo is doing. Has attempted to do it early, and then they're wrong, and then they tell him, stop.

Stop doing it. But Romo's just like, screw it. I'm going to continue to do this. Well, Romo was right. That's right what i'm saying earlier in the season even week three week four his first time last year was his first time right right last year was his first time doing it in the first five weeks he was doing it that's all you saw the internet say it's like tony romo is telling us what's about to happen and once you get hot like that i think the cbs is a lot more apt to be like yeah keep doing

it that's kind of your thing keep doing it i think it might get like other like orlovsky let's say he gets up there and he tries it like three times and he's only one for three he's gun shy that's well i don't think he's gun shy i think the tv people are like yo stop doing that if you're not going to get it right stop doing it for romo it was like he got hot he got i'll be interested to see though if a lot of more uh announcers and commentators try to do it he didn't do it for the other side of the ball he didn't i don't think he knew what the chiefs were going to do as much as he did he knew what the patriots were going to do yeah that's it is it did it does seem as if he was inside the patriots huddle well because brady's much more of a of uh if you see this you do this quarterback versus

mahomes who who knows what the fuck he's gonna do he's made a couple throws yesterday that were just fucking outrageous old patty mahomes old patty mahomes was getting sacked feet were getting taken out from under him and he threw a fucking sidearm like 20 yard ball and then the pass the no look that kelsey drops by the way come on kelsey we need that highlight there you you have to wonder if in now in basketball pick up i'll throw a no look pass the issue with the no look pass is the defender doesn't see you looking that way but also the person receiving the pass has no fucking idea that that ball's coming you gotta like keep your head on a swivel at all times i wonder if that one kind of caught him a little bit because Pat was clearly looking to his right and threw it across

the body just like the last time. Great football games though, man. Great football games. It was. It was edge of the goddamn seat the entire time. Two overtime games? That doesn't happen. That was the first time ever, I think, wasn't it? Greg Zerline with a 50 It doesn't matter

how bad the refs fucked up on the Goldberg Spear pass interference miss. Greg Zerline had to make a 57-yarder to win. He misses that. He misses that. Drew Brees probably picks up two first downs. Will Lutz hits a 50-some yarder, right, or a 40-yarder.

There is a lot on the line there. Whenever you send a kicker out to kick a long field goal, the amount of confidence that McVay had to have in that, next level. GZ's all the way back. The 48-yarder to send it overtime, much... I mean, that's a whole different animal of a kick, because you miss, you lose. You make it, yeah,

we get to play more. It's not like a fun kick to make. And somebody who kicked four or five game tires, but never really got a chance to hit a game winner, those fucking game tires are a nightmare. It's all. Only thing that's going to happen is everybody's going to hate you. The only thing that's going to happen is everybody hates you.

He hits a 48 yarder. Johnny hacker turns the entire game around. Fake punts in the NFC. The last two weeks have decided the winner. Thomas Morstead and taste some Hill did a fake punt against the Eagles. Turn that entire game around for the saints. And then Johnny hacker throws a stop route out to the Sam shields. That turns that entire game around for the Saints. Then Johnny Hecker throws a stop route out to the Sam Shields. That turns the entire game around for the Rams.

Sean McVay actually said in the post game, we wanted some momentum. When you can't get momentum from Jared Goff, Todd Gurley, C.J. Anderson, Brandon Cooks. By the way, he had a big day. I thought they should have went to him a little bit more often. They still win. It doesn't matter. When you can't find momentum from them,

you go to one person, one person only,ter obviously that's what you do for the brand you do that for a while it seems like he was throwing a ball game like they were running a fake again he has 20 attempts yeah he has 20 fucking attempts he came in with jeff fisher though so jeff fisher had him early jeff fisher was the king of just letting her fly i mean jeff fisher against the colts one game as a Titans coach, he did. He let off the game with an onside. I think it did. Every kick was an onside kick. I think he did like six or seven straight onside

kicks. Every single kickoff was an onside kick. And he said, why? He was like, well, he was trying to get the ball out of Peyton's hands. He was like, well, we give him the ball at the 50. He's probably going to get there anyways. So that's the way Jeff Fisher played and it just kind of carried over. And shout out to Hecker for taking advantage of those opportunities.

It would be very nice to play in that type of environment if you're a punter, but Johnny Hecker's made the most of it. I think he's like 12 of 20 right now on his past attempts in the NFL. How about McVay hasn't even turned 33 yet? Jesus. Yeah, there's a video of Sean McVay playing high school quarterback the same year that Tom Brady went to his first playoffs. Him and Edelman played against each other in college.

Yeah, Miami and Kent State, absolutely hysterical. Yeah, him and Edelman played against each other in college. He's playing high school football. He looks exactly like a guy the Patriots would like, by the way, playing football. He looked like just a little tough white guy. It's fast. There's a 50-year difference between Belichick and Brady combined versus McVay and Goff.

Oh, yeah. Do we like Goff? Yeah. Why? Yeah. I think so. I think he's solid. He was good.

He made some really good throws yesterday. He really was. He had a couple on the run, too. That ball he put in Cook's fucking bread basket. Yeah. That was an incredible pass. I think he was double teamed at the time. I think he was double teamed. He brought it down from the fucking clouds on him. I think he was double teamed at the time. I think he was double teamed.

He brought it down from the fucking clouds on him. I don't think Breeze looks the same. I really don't. I don't either. I've been saying that the whole last quarter of the season. Diggs, you said it last week that his arm was short. He looks tired. Well, he's 40.

Yeah, I know. I don't see a DB9 therapy. No. I mean, there's a TB. There's also a difference between being 40 and 6 4 and being 40 and 5 11 well tb12 i would wonder if the db9 would be anywhere near the tb12 because he does keep doing like the shoulder shimmy now a lot of a lot of players as they go in their NFL careers, pick up habits, right? Dan Marino used to lick his fingers more than any human in history. Drew Brees has the lick of the fingers.

Drew Brees also does this shoulder shimmy. It's like this shoulder lift thing. And I wonder if there's a reason for him doing it, if it makes him feel comfortable. It might be like a little nerve or something. Well, he did have that surgery that no one comes back from that he did come back from oh this one andrew luck had yeah this is when he when he went from san diego and then miami wouldn't sign him because of the shoulder and he went to new orleans i think it was the same exact surgery that andrew luck had

because there was a lot of thoughts that uh luck should think about going and seeing the trainer that did the drew breeze one and i don't know if that was met with resistance or he didn't or whatever. But Drew Brees had a hell of a career. He got completely fucked there. Should have went to the Super Bowl. He said he was trying to win for his other babies, by the way. He said he's got that picture of his one baby with the weird things. Worst moment of my life.

He has that up in his house, and all of his other kids are like, when do we get one? He's like, I'm trying. They need a third option on that offense. You think this is going to be his last run if Drew Brees goes and wins the Super Bowl there? I think so. Yeah. I think this was it for Drew Brees if they go and win the Super Bowl.

Now he has to come back. What about flip the switch? What about Brady? Any way he can walk out with a Super Bowl over the LA Rams and say goodbye, along with Gronk. I would if I was him, but man, I don't know. He seems like a different animal. Yeah, I can see Gronk. I don't know if Tom will do it. Yeah, along with Gronk. If I was him, but man, I don't know. He seems like a different animal. Yeah, I can see Gronk. I don't know if Tom will do it.

Yeah, I think Gronk definitely is done. But Brady's already said he's for sure playing in 2019. I don't doubt it. I'll be excited to see what all happens. Without Gronk, I'll be excited to see who Belichick finds to come in and replace Gronk. Okay, so we're missing a game wrecker. He's retiring.

All right, why don't we just go find one of those? And he's just got his little fucking crew of minions just searching the world. We think this guy could be a real game changer. It'll be the next Tyreek Hill. We'll somehow end up on the—how about Philip Dorsett, by the way? Yep. When Dorsett went to the Patriots from the Colts, I said that Dorsett, for some some reason never got going in our offense even though he's a first round pick but some of the

catches he was making in practice were next level they were randy moss type shit he was jumping up snagging balls over people one-handed catches i said i know i don't know why he never worked with us i really don't i don't know why he never worked with us. I really don't know why he never worked with us. But the Patriots are getting a good wide receiver because of what he had showcased in practice. And then lo and behold, an AFC championship game, double covered in the middle of meat. He snags home a tutter.

He's got to be feeling great. His entire career has been resurrected up there in New England. It's a win-win for both. Trade what, Jacoby Brissett, Philip Dorsett? Wasn't that what the deal was? Yeah, we didn't Trade, what, Jacoby Brissett, Philip Dorsett? Wasn't that what the deal was? Yeah, we didn't. I mean, Jacoby Brissett was a great pickup. We wouldn't have had a quarterback going into the season.

He's a great, solid backup. Great, great pickup. But he's not catching a touchdown in the AFC Championship game. What happened to Dwayne Allen out there, though? He's an extension of the offensive line. And I think he has helped Gronk. Gronk has been an incredible blocker his entire career. I watched Gronk take one of the Colts players,

block him all the way into the fucking cameraman on the side of the field. He really did. He drove him after the whistle. I think there might have been a penalty for it because it was something he didn't. So Gronk has been a great blocker for a long time. But when you get somebody like Dwayne Allen, who is literally an extension of a left tackle that's what duane allen is duane allen gets somebody in his in his paws and you're just done that can only help that can only help gronk with everything if you see gronk's technique and blocking i don't know if

it's always been that perfect but it's very similar to duane they got two tight ends that could probably play tackle for a couple different teams if they wanted. That has to help out. Plus, you got the Devlin character, which is a fucking steamroll in the backfield. And then you got running backs who hit it. I mean, Sonny Michel hits that fucking thing. He is a talent.

By the way, Lazy Eye All-American, that guy. Lazy Eye All-American, Sonny Michel. He is James White. Burkhead, for God's sake. Burkhead, James White, Sonny Michel, Devlin. You've got two tight ends that are basically tackles blocking. Then you've got Edelman. Dorsett ran a 4-3, I think, a 4-2, 4-3.

That team's got just as many weapons as anybody else. Corral Patterson returning kicks, I don't give a damn. He's 6'9". You know what I mean? I mean, literally, he looks 6'9", and he throws the ball at the 35 or 40 each return. He's Josh Cribs. He's exactly like Josh Cribs.

So the reason why kickoff returners do well and some don't, whoever can get to top speed the fastest, it's all fear, by the way. It's all... Not fear the fastest it's all fear by the way it's all not fear but it's all mental he who can get to top speed the fastest is normally the most dangerous kickoff returner because you see a lot of people like pick like they're trying to figure out where they want to go maybe they want to extend it and cut it cordero patterson returns just like cribs as soon as he gets the fucking ball he's going going. There's no thought of like, okay, let's do this, let's do that. Cordero Patterson gets to top speed as fast as he possibly can,

and it's very difficult to tackle that guy on kickoff. As we can see, you've got to hit touchbacks, but whenever it's freezing outside, that's a difficult ball to hit. That's a very difficult ball to hit. Very difficult ball. And also, sometimes Cordero Patterson will take a knee whenever it's just a yard in. It's interesting when the Patriots choose to let the return happen and when they choose not to

it's almost it's almost like hey this time just get a 25 hey we need a play go for it for the 40 it's uh everything they do over there is very fucking smart it's i feel like day after they win the super bowl and gronk announces he retires belichick goes into his house goes into his home office flips up a laptop, accesses some satellite, and zooms in on some tight end from eastern Illinois in his backyard flipping tires. Nobody knows about this animal. It'd be like from eastern Kentucky.

He'll find something that'll just make them pick up right where they left off. Early predictions for the Super Bowl. Rams. You're picking the Rams? What's the line? One. One and a half. They're favorites right now. The Rams are favorites? No, they're not. Unbelievable.

No, no, no. They moved to the Patriots last night. Oh, okay. Moved. Okay. That's because Vegas doesn't want the Patriots to win. Vegas doesn't want the Patriots to win so they don't want the Patriots to be using them being a fucking underdog to their advantage anymore. They're like, listen, look what we did. We fucked up the Chiefs game because we gave Tom Brady a bunch of motivation.

Just wait, though. All those old Rams players from that last Super Bowl are going to start talking to the media about the Spygate incident, and it's going to be all over again. It needs to come back up. Whatever. That was a great Super Bowl. Wasn't it?

That was the reach? Yep. What year was that? 2001. Vinatieri kicked a game winner in there, right? Yeah, that was Vinatieri's first game winner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that was the biggest underdog in Super Bowl history, actually,

because we were 14-point dogs that year. Because that was the Kurt Warner. In the Super Bowl? Yeah, that was the Kurt Warner. In the Super Bowl? Yeah, that was the Kurt Warner. Greatest show on turf. Yeah, exactly. I watched NFL Network. They had like a six-hour pregame show.

So you sit through all day fucking Saturday watching documentaries just waiting for the goddamn games to come on Sunday. And then you wake up Sunday and you're like, all right, I'm excited for games. It games it's like well it's not till fucking three o'clock too it's not like they're one o'clock games so i just wanted to get some uh football in my life and i turned on that nfl network pre-game show kurt warner was there live from new orleans though sitting in a chair rich eisen was there jalen smith was there uh linebacker wearing a turtleneck jalen smith was there wearing a turtleneck adrian peterson was there. Jalen Smith was there. Linebacker wearing a turtleneck.

Jalen Smith was there wearing a turtleneck. Adrian Peterson was there. He should not be on a microphone. Great running back. Questionable father. Terrible energy. Michael Irvin was there, obviously. Rich Eisen was there.

Mariucci was there. Willie McGinnis was there. It was like 400 fucking guys on TV. And they had Kurt Warner just sitting in a TV, basically, because he was down in New Orleans. So they wanted him to be a part of the show, but he wasn't. And when you see Kurt Warner, he's such a shell of himself. I just think of the greatest show on turf back in the day.

And I think he's good on TV. I think he's great on TV. But what he did with the Rams back in the day was so think he's good on tv i think he's great on tv but what he did with the rams back in the day was so much fun what was he a grocery yeah it was working grocery store and now and then he goes into the barnstormers yeah and then his wife i remember his wife was just sawing people down she was pissed off about things. That Warner family story is, I don't know how that one hasn't been told, but that's all I, I was watching the thing for six hours, so I had a lot of thoughts about it,

but it was, it was very, Eric Stonestreet, he did an interview with, Rich Eisen did an interview with Eric Stonestreet from Arrowhead Stadium, from the seats that Stonestreet grew up watching from. Oh, that's cool.

And Stonestreet is a fucking good guy. I don't know if you know he's the guy from modern family he plays the large gay guy oh yeah he's hilarious so funny hey but in real life hilarious guy yeah hilarious guy he was he was doing this interview with rich in arrowhead started testing out their song testing out their their sound system and it was the Ozzy Osbourne train. Crazy train. Yeah, it starts coming on and you hear it in the background and Stone Street's

like talking to him and you see him start like he's like, I don't know what to tell you. I can't. He starts dancing and then Rich is like Ozzy Osbourne, that's what Tom Brady comes out to and Stone Street goes on his whole run. Tom Brady does not own Ozzy Osbourne, that's what Tom Brady comes out to and Stuntrick goes on this whole run. Tom Brady does not own Ozzy Osbourne. I think there's a lot of diehard Chiefs fans

that thought this was it for him. I feel bad for D4 doing that. Just stay onside. It's a bright future. Another fuck you Brady statistic. He's 3-0 in overtimes in playoff games. Everybody knew. Opponent never saw the ball.

They never touched the ball on all three of those. I'm the baddest motherfucker on the planet, dude. He walks into that huddle and goes, if we score a touchdown here, this is over. And it's not an if thing. It's like we're going to score a fucking touchdown. I also thought it obviously doesn't matter as much as overtime, but kicking off the game, Andy Reid chose to kick off.

You were like 56-0 in the first quarter. Why are you giving the ball to New England to start the game? I thought that was weird, too. People were afraid. The Patriots always get that back at the end of the first half to start the second half. And I agree, but you've got to play to your strengths. Now, Grant, it helped them coming out of the second half.

Patty Mahomes got hot. But the crowd got sucked out of that game early. When Tom just like I think the Saints elected to receive. I believe the Saints elected to receive. And they walked right down the field and scored. And that place came alive. I was like, okay, this is a good idea that they take the ball. And then you watch in the second game,

if the Chiefs get a three and out there against Tom Brady, whole different ball game in that stadium. Instead, Tom takes the fucking soul out of the place, walks right down the field and scores. It was only a field goal, I think. No, no. No, he scored. Yeah.

But the Saints only got a field goal. They walked right down the field and they only got a field goal. But that first drive says so much to a lot of people. Well, what an incredible game. That Saints place was loud, bro. Yeah. That dome was... All those fucking whistles.

Oh, yeah. Not one. There was a lot of whistles. That guy looked like Sean Payton. Yeah, he hit a fucking whistle. I swear to God, I saw it for the first time. I'm like, you got to be fucking kidding me, Payton. I thought it was actually Sean Payton

blowing a whistle underneath the play sheet. He hit a whistle. Apparently, there's a fucking human whistle guy, and then there was some kid circulating in Payton blowing a whistle underneath the play sheet. He had a whistle. Apparently there's a fucking human whistle guy and then there was some kids circulating the internet who had a whistle in the upper deck. There was a lot of fucking whistles on that goddamn broadcast. I don't think that's legal, right? No. You can't bring the whistles in. The whistle man that Tirico tweeted about,

that guy's completely legal. He is legal, yes. And he is a talent and a weapon for the New Orleans Saints, that guy. He's a Cajun whistler down there in a bayou. Cajun whistler. He goes down there with his lips, his fingers, and probably a stray hand split in the teeth. And he becomes a full-on weapon for the Saints.

And also, it was like a goddamn dog whistle in my house just going off. I think that was the biggest takeaway from the internet from the first half was like, excuse me, Fox, is there any way we can get the fucking whistles out of this? It's ruining the entire... You can't keep that guy out of the game. You have a God-given talents

we need to know about. He's in every single game. Saints have been on primetime a lot. I've never fucking heard that. We go down there with that. I got that whistle down there. Fox. We've watched a lot. Saints have been on primetime a lot, and I've never fucking heard that. Oh, we go down there. I got that whistle down there. The Fox Center, man. We're going to gain down there. You've got my whistle on there.

I'm trying to go down to that. I do a whistle. I told him that. I put my whip together. I told him, I got a whistle, man. They call me. Gage and Whistler. He's got that whistle on his head, man.

The Whistleman doing autograph signings. It's just something that I do. What do you want me to hear? You want me to hear a whistle? That's what I do. That's what I do. Wait, you're doing autographs? I assume that the Whistleman does an autograph,

appearances, pictures, things like that. He should now, at least, after Tirico. So you're going with the Rams, you? Yes. And I said this on Get Up, on ESPN. I said it. I got mocked for it. I said that the Los Angeles Rams are like the Golden State Warriors.

You did. They're filled with incredible players. And then I said, big-time players make big-time plays in big-time games. That's why they're called big-time players. So they might lose a little bit during a regular season, but when the time comes that a big play has to be made in a big-time game, the Rams have the players that will make it. Did I mean that a guy was going to spear a wide receiver before the ball came?

No, I did not mean that. What I meant was in those big situations, Tom Brady, for instance, in those big situations, there's a reason why these names are big names. There's a reason why everybody knows these players. It's because in the biggest situations, they make the biggest plays. It's just the way it goes. Dwight Freeney told me,

when the lights come on, the stars come on. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but it's real. And I think that is really the only thing that's holding me back from betting my entire net worth on the Patriots because it is a huge game. And there's a reason these players are known for being huge names. It's because in these games they can make huge plays. Will that be able to out-duel the golden boy Tom Brady and Belichick?

I'm not sure, but it's the only thing that's holding me back from not hammering the Patriots. The reason why I like the Rams is there's always been a recipe to beat Tom Brady, and it's get pressure with four, and the Rams have the D-line to do that. They really do. I mean, it's next level. And you guys are talking about Belichick has two weeks to prepare and shit like that. He had two weeks to prepare last year.

What happened last year? We'll see what happens, though. Tom Brady dropped a pass. Okay. That's, I mean, that's, he catches that, they probably, I mean, that's probably a win. That's probably a win. I want to agree with you, but just after what I just saw, I just can't.

You can't. I think it's going to be a blowout, too. I don't know if it's going to be a blowout, but I just, there's going to be something that's going to happen that's going to be Tom Brady-esque, where they're going to get completely lucky. There'll be like a. Oh, yeah, that's for sure going to happen. that's going to happen that's going to be tom brady-esque where it's good they're going to get completely lucky there'll be like oh yeah that's for sure going to happen for sure yes but i think that is just going to propel them to and now i think back the giants had that helmet catch against the patriots so i guess that might be another downside to the everything always works out for the patriots but But I just don't know how you bet against two weeks of preparation.

But that's what it takes to beat them. Some miraculous play. Because they're getting that type of shit on a regular basis. Edelman had a catch just like that right before that. In Atlanta, yeah. The Falcons catch was next level. The thing not hitting off a – now granted, they got a pick and ended up scoring anyways.

Ball don't lie. The most tweeted thing of all time yesterday whenever that pick happened. But there was an extra 30 seconds there. If Edelman would have touched it versus the Brady throw on the pick, they got an extra 30 seconds at the end of the game. Well, there was another situation.

The two-minute warning, right? Mahomes, they had to run a play. 2-0-3. Because the play clock. Who? Oh, the play clock. Yeah, the play clock. One of them Dota.

It was down there. But that's a situation where anyone was like, all right, why are you running a play? Oh, they have to. Otherwise, Mahomes definitely waits that out, waits the morning, gives Tom a little less time. Had to run the play. Tom Brady, man.

As soon as he gets it. He's an assassin. As soon as he gets it on the field, it's like, well, here we go. Wearing his little ski mask thing. Just absolutely ready to demoralize whatever city he has to do it. And he's gone full heel. He's gone full heel, which I personally enjoy.

It's going to make a lot of people easier to hate him. It's the way it's going to go, but I enjoy it. I'm excited to get down to Atlanta. Remember when I was prom Brady this time of year, he's always like, hey, I want I'm excited to get down to Atlanta Remember when it was Brown Brady This time of year He's always like Hey I want to ask you Get in your head space

When you had fourth and three And you guys were going for it And he's like I just want to say hi To my beautiful wife My parents My sisters I love that he does that

Well then he said Un-fucking-believable Un-fucking-believable He said on TV Any chance when Tom threw that pick He saw That guy was offside, so he's a little more reckless with it?

No way. It's not like one of those ones where somebody jumps off and you get a free play. It was the one where the guy was lined up six inches offside. He'll be a Colton next year, by the way. Dee Ford? Yeah, that's my personal opinion. I hope not.

They were talking about franchising. Casey was talking about franchising and paying a fuck ton of money, but who knows after that. Good player, is he? Great player. Is he a good fucking player? But he lined up bad. He just lined up six inches wrong.

Good player, though. Good player, though, but six inches wrong. Not a good player. That's a huge part of being a player, especially at that position. I mean, that's literally that position is to make sure everybody else is on side almost. I mean, that's your job. And that's the game winner.

That is the game winner. That is the game. Hey, it doesn't show up until it shows up. It doesn't hurt you until it hurts you. You don't know you need it until you need it. Like, these are all quotes, and it's real. Him lining up offsides is one of the biggest miscues in Kansas City Chiefs football history, I would say. And how about Romo playing it up?

This might be on the Patriots. Oh, yeah. This game might be over. Oh, my God. And then, bam, it was on the Chiefs. He didn't see him off sides either. Yeah, because nobody saw him jump. So they're probably thinking it was an alignment.

He thought it was an alignment issue. He thought it was something. And it was. It just so happened to be on the side of the ball where you line up in the same position every fucking time. Every fucking time you line up in the same position. It's unbelievable. First play of the game, you can go back and look.

New England Patriots, their furthest left wide receiver was lined up past the line. The ref was actually standing with his right foot on the 20 or 25 i don't remember if it was returned or it was a touchback looking around the player in the ref the receiver actually has to look at the ref and say am i on or am i i'm off or i'm on he says i'm on the ref says you're good he was past the line of scrimmage and the ref was doing a little look around him actually first play of the game i noticed it i was like well that's interesting and then lo and behold

an alignment issue is literally the biggest fucking play of the thing they call it on that they don't call it on the first one that's why the patriots are the patriots why the rams got no fucking shot okay i got a question about the rams did you guys like that he kicked the field goal to tie it or did you want to see him go for it? I didn't think McVay was going to do it. I know. I honestly thought he was going to go for it. Absolutely.

I probably would have went for it. When? At the very end. To tie it. To go 20-20, I think. Oh, down there on the one? Yeah. Yep.

Everyone on Twitter was freaking out, too. Sean's small balls McVay. Well, because when you think of Drew Brees, normally if he gets the ball back, you think Drew goes down and scores and wins. Right. Hey, big fourth down stop for the Chiefs. Fourth and one.

Yeah, the Patriots fans were not happy that Burkhead got that ball. Why? Well, I mean, for me, I just would rather spread it out and do the little James White two little quick hit from shotgun. Or, you know, you put it in Brady's hands. You'd run that quick out with Edelman. Two yards. I don't understand why we're messing around with a little fullback dive

when they got eight people in there, you know? Christ, I knew McDaniels was going to be here today. Don't get me started. Don't get me started. I'm impressed with the Chiefs. They're a young team. And by young, I mean their quarterback's young. They seem to have a young core.

I was impressed that they took Tom Brady right in the face there, 14-zip, the entire thing. We asked the question, Patty Mahomes, Andy Reid having a hell of a year, but what will happen when it's the AFC championship game and you have to look across the field at Tom Brady in that jacket that's seven times too big, Belichick wearing that fucking miserable face that he wears the entire game, does that affect you at all? It did early.

They were getting stomped. And then at halftime, they kind of kind of refreshed refocused took the game out of the console blew it on it a little bit put it back in they fought they showed grit they had a fourth down stop their offense started rolling the fans started getting in it they started going but it's just there's nothing you could do when tom brady's over there but i think the chiefs fans should be excited for the future damian williams who what do they have to pay think the Chiefs fans should be excited for the future. Damian Williams? Who? What? Do they have to pay anyone, the Chiefs? Well, I saw last night, and it'll be interesting to your point, Pat,

about having to pay guys a lower amount to try to win championships. I saw that they're going to try to extend Mahomes after this year for $200 million. So we'll see how the trickle-down effect for the rest of the team. Mahomes getting $200 million, and then Tiger Kill will get paid. But after that...

So Kelsey's gone. Kelsey's going to the Patriots. Oh, shit. When is Kelsey's contract up? Look for Kelsey to go to the Patriots. Him and Edelman will be a fucking... It'll be like Amendola gets back up there with Edelman high-fiving each other.

They have like 40 million cast space, I saw, after this season, the Chiefs do. Yeah, like 40 million cast space, I saw, after this season. The Chiefs do. Yeah, but they want to pay Patty Mahomes, right? It was 25 of it. Who was it, Boomer, that put Edelman in the Hall of Fame after the game? Edelman should, by the way. The Hall of Fame? Yeah, I did hear someone say that. When Edelman's done, he'll be a Hall of Famer. Let me tell you why.

It's not only because he's the stud-wide receiver of one of the best offenses and teams in NFL history. He has a Hall of Fame moment that Atlanta Falcons catch where he snuck – yeah, was it the Falcons game? Yeah, he kicked it off the ground. Yeah, where he catches it off the ground, saves the day. He's a punt returner, one of the best punt returners in the league too.

It's not just like he is an average punt returner. He's one of the best punt returners in the league i think he now granted he had a four game suspension for using peds but i think by the time he's done that'll be something that is very normal for a lot of people i think he's a hall of famer i think personally i think edelman's a hall of famer i think his numbers say it i think his moments say it i think his super bowl rings say it and i think the fact that he's willing to play special teams and shit is just another notch under his belt there. I think

Edelman's a Hall of Famer. I do believe that. And that beard of his also. Hall of Fame beard. Hall of Fame beard. That's a baseball beard. It's a baseball beard. Got a four-game suspension. Those baseball guys are all chewing at testosterone.

Edelman's a stud, man. He's a really good football player. And he seems to have that I hate everybody, fuck everybody mindset. Yeah, he's always John after every play. Well, he gave a couple ass slaps, actually. He slapped the Winchester, the long snapper for the Chiefs. Colquitt punted one. He fair caught it.

The long snapper just so happened to be in his face, and something was said, and he actually slapped him on the ass in a show of friendship. I thought that was very out of character for Edelman. Honestly, I thought Edelman was going to fucking punch him in the face. Well, if they're not playing defense, it's more of a, if you're on that other side of the ball, then, yeah, he's going to punch you in the back.

No, that's how he acted early in his career. It was everybody was, he had a chip on his shoulder. Everybody was against him. He hated everybody. He wouldn't even talk to me in warm-ups whenever it was happening. So I think maybe now that he's gotten older, he'll be more comfortable. But I think – I do believe that Edelman's a Hall of Famer. I think so.

Who would you put a – why wouldn't you put him in? No, not Edelman. Why? Because he's a little white guy? No. You sound like NFL Network. Are we putting you in the Hall of Fame because of the hardware you won? Or is it over the course of your career?

How about everything? What are you saying no for? Because he's a little white guy. That's why you're saying no. I just don't think the yearly stats that compare to other wide receivers, you take the hardware out of it. I could see him getting in. I don't think he's a first ballot guy, but he could definitely get in there for sure. His numbers are great.

What do you mean not his yearly stats? I'm assuming he's near 1,000 yards every single fucking year. Close to 100 catches too. Yeah, I'm assuming that his stats are... It's just everybody's so enamored with Brady, as they should be, and Gronk is this NFL game changer. Edelman's

kind of like the third talking point. How are his number sticks? They're okay. Like this year he has 850 yards. He does have two seasons with 1,000. Playoff numbers though. His first one, two, three, four years he never had over 400 yards.

Walker. He was behind Walker. He was learning. His last five have been very good. I don't know. He missed four games this year, too. And he has 100-some yards. I think he's in. I personally think he's in. If you want to crown him, crown him. Is five years enough?

Is five good years enough to make the haul? How many Super Bowls do you want in there? He's got two right now. Three if we win this one. I mean, he's a third. He's never had more than seven times. Every third down, you knew it was going to him. And he catches it. He catches everything. He catches everything. It's because he's

so competitive and he has that chip on his shoulder. I was ready to announce that that fucking bet against us shirt was 75% off now on his website. So ready for it. Clearing? You thought it was like a clearing sale? Everything must go. We have inventory. Congrats. You bet against us against us you won it was in the drafts oh yeah to your point too i made i saw him make a

sideline catch in the game against the chargers and it was on an audio clip of the game after the game and he goes to anthony lynn he says hey big fan of you coach yeah he runs back it was just yeah seemed out of character it seemed strange they showed a lot of that there was another one too where he said i like the way you play. It was the DB. Yeah, I watched it. It was the Chargers DB. He said, I like the way you play or whatever.

I'm like, what is this? Edelman's becoming like a nice guy. Because I remember early on, I used to ask you guys, it looks like Edelman is jawing with everybody after the play. What's he saying? What does he say to you? What does he say to the guys? To me?

You wouldn't even fucking talk to me. I was literally two feet away from him. I'm like, man, you're really fucking good like i watched filming you returning punts i like that a little white guy's out here doing it you know and you just catch him on run away i'm like this fucking guy won't even give me like a okay like i can't even compliment he was like quentin nelson he's like quentin nelson like i couldn't even compliment him to break into his space but now jolene edelman's a little bit more established got a couple super bowls i think he's a hall of famer though i believe he's a Hall of Famer, though. I believe he's

a Hall of Famer. I do. Michael Irvin's in the Hall of Fame. Look at his numbers. Different era. Reggie Wayne before Edelman? Yes. Or Edelman before Reggie Wayne? Reggie Wayne by a thousand percent. Yeah, I think Reggie Wayne is eligible for the Hall pretty soon here in a couple years. And his

numbers are ridiculous. Yes. Ridiculous. And he has a Super Bowl win. And he has a touchdown in the Super Bowl,, and his numbers are ridiculous. Ridiculous. And he has a Super Bowl win. And he has a touchdown in the Super Bowl, which is a pretty big deal. And a good dance after that touchdown, too. I don't remember the dance, but I do remember him scoring a touchdown in the rain in Miami

and it being shown on our highlights whenever we were going back to Miami to lose to Drew Brees. I wish. to lose to Drew Brees and Stu Levin. I wish. I wish that Bill Vinovich's reffing crew was in the NFC Championship in 2009. I wish. I wish.

Unbelievable day of games. I'm excited for the Super Bowl. We're going to be down there at Topgolf all week. It should be a lot of fun. It's not all week a few days probably wednesday thursday friday saturday we're working on it now a couple huge things about to be announced with uh the old pat mcafee inc and outside uh companies let's go oh i made fun of the disown commercial commercial. I had to.

I had to. Everybody did. They pulled that thing off the TV, by the way, as they should. I feel like I might have helped. Doing them a favor, yeah. Thank you. Maybe a little consulting fee. But I think I'm going to be doing some stuff for DAZN down there,

which is pretty cool. I guess that's worldwide, wide, wide, wide. They have the NFL rights everywhere but America. Oh, nice. It's a global game everyone knows that everybody knows that a lot of people watch super bowl a lot of people a lot of people watch super bowl nobody in america will give me a shot but these fucking worldwide people uh people were people were saying that uh you helped take the zone commercialN commercial off the air. Yeah, that's what I think.

A lot of people yesterday said that the ref didn't throw that flag because I brought it to everyone's attention that the NFL was for Drew Brees all season. Oh. Good job, Diggs. Diggs, congratulations. Thank you. You like the Saints? I don't know.

Fuck the Saints, dude. I'm just saying. Why do you not like the Saints? They beat the Steelers this year. I think the Rams would have too. Nope, didn't play. Hey, Sean Payton throwing the ball with under two minutes to go. Yeah, that was dumb.

What are we doing? What are we doing? No, no, no. What are we doing here? On first down. What are we doing here? That was dumb. Hold on.

Hold on. Back to your point about Drew Brees. That was an easy little fucking in by Mike Thomas. He catches that. He might gain 40 50 yards right there because it was wide open everybody they were selling out for the run that ball slips out of drew bree's hands he throws it in the fucking dirt and i think there was a little bit of an exchange issue the ball didn't come out clean he throws that in the dirt clock

stops obviously but mike thomas catches that it's just an extension of the run game that's what they would call it this is just an extension of the run game. That's what they would call it. This is just an extension of the run game because it was a quick little in pass, little touch pass. Drew Brees throws it in the dirt. The clock stopped. Nothing happens. Oh no. What are we doing? Sean Payton's an idiot. Drew Brees is stupid. But you complete that pass. Oh, we're geniuses. It's the smartest move of all

time. Blah, blah, blah. I completely agree with that. Still could have just ran it. Play the average as you're saying. Clock, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Yeah, but they would just call that the extension of the run game. If it's a screen, they'll say it's an extension of the run game. If it's a –

Solid Patriots ran the ball for years. That was an extension of the – That Mike Thomas in was a three-yard pass that Drew Brees had to drop right behind the D-line, and he's probably off forever. Obviously, it's incompleted. Hindsight makes him look stupid. But if he does complete it, everybody goes. They choose to go with an extension of the run game to keep the clock going.

It's all in how it works out. Honestly, it's all in how it works out. Make sure they have more whistles down there. Maybe they couldn't have heard what was going on right there. We blow them whistles. I love that. I hope that guy's planning to come back for another season for the Suns. I'm sure he will. Yeah.

They should upgrade him. They should give him like a bird's nest. Right. Like a whistler's nest. As long as it's not close to the fucking cameras. Well, is it the cameras or it says fucking big satellite things? Whatever it is. No, but who

because they tried to turn it off they were having a little audio issue you could hear them you could hear the commentators talking and then you could hear a little bit of the players and then they would try to balance in the players with the commentators and then every once in a while they were having an issue with the whistle we weren't the only people that heard it, obviously. The director cutting to the dome shot. Yeah, out of nowhere. When Mike Thomas' ass was coming out. That's a top five director moment of all time. Very good, very good.

Dome shot, dome shot. That's awesome to think of just the quick reaction. Go to the dome. Back to the game. Genius. Because he only got a crack out. Look like Todd's in it. Look like Todd's in it.

Hey, Todd, you look very thin. Yeah. I'm already sick of stupid, sexy Todd. Hot Todd. Yeah. I'm getting to be frail Todd, though. By the end of this thing, you'll be like, oh, shit. Evan will be punking me.

He'll be throwing me around. I might be today. This is the week. you look very small i walked in today and i thought i i thought another person was in here just because you're a little bit further away and i saw your um silhouette uh-huh you look like a tiny man right now yeah i feel it i and i told you i grew up that way so i hate my mind's eye i'm back in high school skinnier than everybody else. I'm like, God damn it. Don't let Diggs talk to you. Diggs is about to bully your little fucking frail ass. I'm excited

to see the weight loss stuff. Had a weigh-in yesterday. Got a weigh-in on Friday. Excited for all that. Excited to see how you guys did. But Super Bowl, man, I'm eager to get down there and see what happens. I don't know how you beat the Patriots. I don't know how you do it.

Yeah, it's tough, man. I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you beat the Patriots. It's like it's in the cards. If they want to win, they're going to win. They're bad boys for life. Because they ain't going nowhere. How'd you feel your Saturday?

There was nothing going on Saturday. You had to wait for football. How'd you feel your Saturday? I watched the Firefest documentary on Netflix. I guess Hulu has one as well. I watched the Netflix one. I did not watch the Hulu one. I heard the Hulu version might be a little better. Well, I saw it on the Hulu one.

I was searching through it because I hadn't had time to watch documentaries in a long time. So I got to the bottom of the... I saw Murder Mountain. Yeah? What did you think? Humboldt County is a bad motherfucking place, bro. Alder Point is the truth. That's happening right here in our country.

It's like its own little sovereign community. It's lawless. Hey, Neil is a G, though. Goes up there and fucking pistol whips old cuzzy, shoots him in the face. Now he's in jail, dead, obviously. How about when that lady calls the cops and she's like he's right there you're looking for him you got the warrant for him he's right he's right there

he's going back in his house yeah he's got a lot of guns murder mountain was worth a watch i think just strictly because of how intriguing it is that that place exists yeah the dookie brothers i would i would never smoke any of their stuff that's that the guy that fucked over the workers yeah yeah anyways it's about humble county which is the emerald triangle which is where all the weed all the weed is grown basically medical weed is where it's a wild wild west there's one mountain called alder point where there's no rules there's atvs cops don't even go it's the hood of the it's the mountain side yeah yeah it's the it really is it's like mountain people mixed with hood mixed with cartel it's like a it's a wild place it's murder mountain is what they call it like capitals

and mccoys meets uh boys in the hood you know what i mean like it's like the mix between those two worlds and what a story where like uh how it started with just a bunch of vietnam vets that were anti-government trying to go hide like we'll just go here where nobody's at we'll just start growing wheat and then well i don't think they i don't think they were planning on growing they were planning on just hiding out and becoming their own thing yeah they were just growing for themselves and then they grow it and then the business happens and then they're like oh look at this we can just make a lot of fucking money and then they created their own town yeah the hippies created humboldt county which created a mayor which created these hippies created their own town in the mountains incredible and then one

mountain and or greed led to one thing to the other and then outside parties starting to get involved bye-bye hippies hello greed turn into everything you hate everything i thought it was interesting that they grow there not because like the fertile or the soil is any different or anything like that just because it's literally like the hardest place to get to for law yeah that's a huge part of growing where can they not get to now let's murder mountains worth a watch this fire festival though billy mcfarland is the worst human possibly born into this earth he's just a hustler he's just a shady hustler who he who ruined a lot of people's lives and then while he is out of jail awaiting trial for the fire fraud he starts attempting while filming your tweet yesterday was while filming he starts selling

tickets to something that isn't existing by a guy named frank he just can't help himself except for trying to fuck people over that fire festival was doomed from the beginning what did he do what did this guy do before fire festival does he have a business owner or a card uh yeah magnesis magnesis was a credit card where you were a part of a club basically and all this it was all a hustle it was uh it was the black card for millennials is how it was marketed but it was 100 of scam like the ratings on the system of the business very low everybody got fucked over by it you see he only made sixty thousand dollars from it but he lied that he made over like four mil yeah to pitch advertisers exactly and that's why whenever we walk into

advertiser things into business meetings all of our numbers are dissected so much because the billy fucking mcfarland's in the world which i didn't even know was possible that fire app good idea the booking app that he had very good idea that he had all these people working on all these people's jobs and then he wanted to make the fire festival and that that thing took over the internet i remember like it was yesterday when this fire festival took over the internet everybody was going digs i think you were talking about wanted to go wanted to go digs wanted to go everybody wanted to to be a part of it it sounded like everything i would hate so there's no way i was going to go. But I understood the thought on why people did want to go. Then to find out behind the scenes why, the fact that they marketed it as Pablo Escobar's

old island is why they got kicked off the fucking island. The owner was like, no, no, don't ever mention that again. They're like, we won't. First fucking video, Pablo Escobar's island with all these models come party. That's a quick way to make a lot of fucking money. What did they make, $47 million or $37 million? It was around there, yeah. $37 million they made off of that, and it wasn't until 15 days beforehand they started

planning for it. These fucking idiots. It was absurd. My favorite part, too, was it was interesting because you ask the people who were involved in producing it and marketing it why they didn't try and stop it more and it was like they didn't know to everything they were shown looked legitimate and they all thought it was the fuck jerry people yeah yeah the fuck jerry people all they were only living off of the videos they were sent by old billy and ja rule who ja rule by the way oh i've never picked the side in the 50 Cent Ja Rule beef, strictly because if anybody had some heaters whenever I was young.

Hold up, hold up. Right? You do your thing. I am 100% on 50 Cent's side, and I hope somebody from 50 Cent's side happens to beat the fuck out of Ja Rule. What a fucking idiot, that guy. It's not fraud. It's not fraud.

It's false advertising. It's like, yeah, you fucking idiot. Ja Rule thought he was smarter than everybody. Ja Rule thought he was the smartest guy on earth for this. And I would, too, by the way, if we made $37 million selling tickets to a party that we spent $0 to invest in, I guess I would think I was a genius, too. But, man, Ja Rule looked terrible in that. How about the guy who was willingly and ready

to suck the customs guy's dick to get the water in? All right, so this is me. This is you. This is a bush over here. This is the bohemian customs guy right here behind the bush. You're going to go behind the bush, suck his dick. We're going to get water and get out of here. Excuse me?

Yep, you're going to go suck that guy's dick, and then we're going to get out of here. It was just like the movie. It was just out of We Are the Millers. It was the same exact scene. That guy definitely sucked his dick, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

That's how he got the water. He said that he showed up there and the guy said, no, you don't have to suck my dick. I'll give you the water. You just have to pay us first. That's the story I'd be telling. That seems true.

He was just an old man, too. Did you see this, Todd? No, I haven't seen it. This guy's like 50 years old. This guy's like a 50-year-old businessman who was doing business with Billy McFarland. Not that old. I mean, he was a silver-haired motherfucker.

He might have been 55, 60. He's probably older than you. Just so nonchalantly tells the camera with a straight face, Billy calls me and tells me I got to go suck a guy's dick so we can get water. So I went up there and saw him.

I didn't suck his dick, but I got the water. Like, hey, that fire festival. How about that Corolla chick? How she just, like, gave in to Billy of everything. Like, I think you should have given, like, 50 mil or 40 mil. Well, it sounds like everybody was giving in to Billy. Like, this chick, that was a chick that he kept going to for, like, money. Oh, yeah, the blonde chick.

Oh, I don't think I know that. She didn't talk. She didn't have a speaking role. They just spoke about her and showed her in little clips here and there he she was like one of the main investors he kept going to for for money oh nice little sugar mama for billy mcfarland i guess he's in jail now six years in the pen with mike situation did the government end up seizing his money or i don't think it's a situation's jail they're in the same jail yeah same uh same federal prison, whatever that is, up in New Jersey

or whatever. See, for me, the situation's going to Martha Stewart's jail. His is like fraud. It's a white-collar crime. It could be. So Billy McFarlane somehow is coming out of this with more street cred. Somehow he's coming out on the other side selling. What is he going to be

selling? I sent a tweet out that said Billy McFarlane is currently trying to sell tickets to a tweet out that said billy mcfarland is currently trying to sell tickets to new orleans and kansas city chiefs fans about a bronze medal game because that is what billy mcfarland is he's a 26 year old he's the he's a con man yeah that's what he is him and frank abagnale i assume we're gonna go on some tour that's a catch me if you can guy he's a con man it was i learned a lot about that did they end up getting mcfarland's money the government or so he's hit a bunch of it no he i think so he's he probably knew that going in i'm gonna spend six eight months in a federal prison six years six years yeah worth it see what he does he didn't know that though because he asked one of the camera

guys who's filming the whole thing hey what's prison like and the guy's telling him he's like i'm not going to prison i thought he was going to disappear you would think i thought it was going to be like an avicii situation where he flies off disappears but he i think he enjoys his name in the right like i think he enjoys this whole he's probably making money off this documentary right billy mcfarland oh yeah it has to be the hulu one he made money off of not the netflix one because he likes he's actually talking more in the the hulu version i guess that's why i like that one might be a little better better. Yeah, but he's the one who brought in the guy to film him, so he owns those rights of the footage that they were using in his hotel. McFarlane's definitely making money off of those things.

He's not making enough money to pay back anybody, though, $30-some million or whatever. But that was incredible, man. It was awesome. I'm happy I didn't buy tickets to that. I do kind of wish Diggs you won. Yeah, I do too. For the story.

It would have been an incredible story. By the way, all those people that were at that thing, I mean, the biggest fucking little punk bitches. Anybody that's buying tickets to that thing, actually following through, not just wanting to go, but actually following through and going to that. I mean, they were acting like they were in Vietnam. It's like, bro, you're in the Bahamas still. still yeah that was the only part that i didn't agree with like they're freaking out oh my god i got my bed sweat yeah not about the one

guy the one guy was like yeah we went around to the other tents and start poking holes and pissing on them and taking their beds i was like that's a wild move vigilante hey just for future reference even if this fire Festival was set up right, I think if you do that, it's still a bad scene. Still a bad festival for a lot of people. Did you feel bad for the lady who owned the bar or whatever? Yeah, yeah. Her painter.

I think that is why I think Billy McFarland is such a terrible human, strictly because of that woman. That woman, man, she cut to the soul there. Oh, yeah. When she paid back everybody right that work she tried her best how about the bohemian guy who was like they were coming to me for money i was like i ain't got the fucking money he said peace out i went back to another island said they were putting hits out on people to get their money billy calls him in the middle of the interview

yeah what does that mean why is billy still calling that guy i wonder billy's still trying to cook up fire fest billy's a schemer man he's a schemer i saw the avicii documentary have i talked about that on here yet no avicii is definitely alive that is a fake death if i've ever seen one in my entire life now apparently if he passed away very sad hate it but they filmed everything they knew he was going to be a monster, and they filmed everything. From him creating the first couple sounds of songs, all the way through the production, all the way through his tours,

500 and some shows in the first fucking two years, all the way through the whole thing. They filmed everything, it felt like. And the way for that thing, he talked open about it being the death of him in the documentary which is why i think that he was talking like that for the documentary in a setup at the end the way to get out of that and disappear and not have to deal with any bullshit again is the same way tupac did which is the old fake your death thing if he did pass

away very sad the world lost an incredible person but the end of that avicii one makes me think he did not die i love that and in the so much the malibu part where he goes to malibu yes and he just turns his phone off for eight months like he was basically off the grid for eight months during his like peak of his fame before his stories album i think they said when he canceled the tour i think yeah hey that malibu set up with his studio. That's the goal I was going to say to you. That is the goal. That is the goal. That exact house. Yeah, there's an island I found for $4.75 million.

It's an island in the Bahamas because I looked up after- Does it have infrastructure? Well, yeah, it does. There's a couple down there that don't. They're like $15 million. But I looked up Norman Kaye because of the fire thing. Right. And I was like like they said they

bought an island so that's possible so i googled how much is a bahamas island i found one 4.75 million that is goal and also the house in malibu that fucking avicii rented to do his album they were they set up a studio in have you any who's all seen it in here right so they set up in this malibu house has all this glass, right? Glass windows just staring off to the beach and to the ocean. Just peace and quiet everywhere. They set their studio up in there. So they're literally just staring off into the sunset in the Pacific Ocean

in this mansion in Malibu on the beach. And that's where he's making his music. It's where he's living and traveling from. It's where he got a dog from. I it was just like uh it was a perfect setup I was like this is it right there so that and the island those two things Avicii disappeared to an island some third world country disappeared in that island and the last shot is him like playing a guitar with this drone that kind of disappears and there's nobody else on the island it seems like except for him I'm like that would be the place where you can tell the local government hey will you just say i'm dead

this would be a good way to disappear i don't know if he did pass away very sad but i think there's a chance that old avicii's dead imagine if he's still alive i don't think he is i don't think he is so he comes back in like 20 years does one last song how much do you pay how much do you think people pay for that concert it would be the tour it'd be like the back from the dead tour yeah that'd be hysterical that tour would make make a gajillion dollars yeah because all he has to say is he didn't know he turned his phone off he didn't know that they had reported him dead he was just living off by himself yeah what about taxes and shit like that well he's in his third world country he's living in his third world country it's he's living in what was the madagascar yeah he's in some island out in the middle of fucking nowhere

just living there's cell phones everywhere dead yeah but he can just say he can just say that his is turned off like i think the only way you get around faking your death right would be to say you didn't know that people pronounce you dead yeah yeah you just say unplugged man i unplugged i'm back so that could be like five years from now it doesn't even have to be 20 years from now it's wild got a whole that's wild because what's i think the country of owen owenu oh now i looked it up some tiny little country look it up avicii's death some tiny country announces death tiny and i was like wow that seems like i mean if the mexican president's getting paid off that's a pretty big country i would assume that muscat oman oman i would assume that there was in muscat oman is

where they announced him dead i would assume that there's some government officials that you could shake some hands of, they could pronounce you dead, right? Oh, yeah. For sure. I would assume that that is something. It wouldn't cost you anything, though. He had to. He had 500-some shows, 500 festivals in two years. The amount of money that fucking Avicii made for himself and for everybody associated with him is next level.

And you say it all the time. All the time. The fucking money doesn't bring happiness and that's all I could think about during that whole entire documentary. Sad, wasn't it? Very sad. Sad watching that whole thing.

But they did end it making you think this guy might be alive still and I think they did that on purpose. Out hit him out in that fucking island. Absolutely. I think everyone had to have

the same thought. I think he's still alive. Dead! Mike Posner just wrote a whole album about him dying. I don't know if he'd do that to Mike. I don't think him and Mike were that tight. You think Mike was hanging on?

You think Mike was just playing up his relationship? I think Ibiza was kind of like Avicii's southern... So if I learn anything from that Avicii documentary is that Ibiza is the Southern California of Europe. So if that's where you go, it's like the Southern... Because Europe is basically like America, right? It's just countries instead of states. I'm not saying they're anything like our states,

but it is if you look at Europe like that, as opposed to looking at each individual country, I think Ibiza is where all the Europeans escaped to. Oh, it's definitely the party. Yeah, it's like Southern California. Avicii ran Ibiza there for a while. I think that was his place.

I would assume if you go to Ibiza and you're in the music business, you go kiss the ring of Avicii I assume. I don't know if Posner and him are best friends. Posner was not in the documentary. So I don't know if he was in the tight circle, but I would assume if you go to Ibiza and you see Avicii

and you're a musician, you're boys, you're friends, but I don't think he's in the tight circle. It keeps saying this. If he's dead, dead. If he's that, very sad. But seems as if if I am going to try to disappear i'm going to madagascar and then i'm telling somebody in oman that i'm dead yeah the way they say he died too wild shard of glass stabbed himself with a shard of glass that's what yeah i looked into it i

thought it was an overdose yeah it wasn't it was not an overdose it was a fucking shard of glass from a bottle that's a wild and then his parents came out and their quote wasn't that of a a distressed family what they say they weren't mourning no they were like he lived a life that we should celebrate it wasn't like uh it wasn't like a super suspect you know what i mean tired of everybody else if it was sad maybe that is something those parents would say i agree that's why there's two ways to look at it there's two ways to look at every single thing look at all the facts from it and watch that thing as if he is still alive and has faked his death and then also watch it from as he's you know it's not i'm going to you think he's alive. What if Avicii died but Tim Bergling

is still alive? They call him Tim. A lot of people are calling him Tim. In the documentary, they actually say Tim's dead. Avicii's everything now. There's no more Tim, really. It's just Avicii. Maybe they go to Oman after his retirement, Avicii's

dead, Tim Bergman's still alive. Or onto something. I would not be surprised. I would not be surprised. He hated that Arash guy towards the end there. Oh, yeah. Arash, his manager, he hated him. They made a lot of fucking money together, though.

That Arash was Billy McFarlane there, really, for him. But it was- We could have more shows. We need an Arash, by the way, so I can hate him in five years. But we'll make $100 million in the next couple of years. I think Avicii's still alive. Yeah, I've been doing a lot of watching. I want just one of those people to actually still be alive.

You know what I mean? Because there's so many stories of so many people. But also, it would be such a great story because, yeah, I know he had more money than everybody. And, you know, times 100 because of where he's at because of the exchange rate. So he could control his own little universe. But the discipline it takes to never leave that little island for that amount of time. But I think he could travel.

I think Avicii, because even in that documentary, he looked like three different dudes. Absolutely. When he was hungover, he looked like a guy. Whenever he was dressed up, he looked like a different guy. And then whenever he was younger, he looked like three different dudes absolutely when he was hungover he looked like a guy whenever he was dressed up he looked like a different guy and then whenever he's younger he looked he looked like four different guys yeah all had a similar shape of the face i guess but they his i i don't doubt he could do that but when you start doing that you involve so many more people now that now you're involving another 10 people to get you to where you need to go i don't know if you throw a fake mustache on him,

he looks like a way different person. Dye your hair. Yeah, I know that. But I mean, you're involving more people in the story. I think his friends, he has that tight group that was with him everywhere.

Yeah. They obviously know. It's like, where are those guys living at now? Yeah. If they're all living back in America, then maybe he is dead. But if they're still living abroad,

let's just assume that they are living with a guy who did 500 and some shows in two years. Festivals, not just shows. The amount of money that motherfucker has to have. Oh, man. Has to have. He didn't stop. It's like when Vince disappeared to the island.

Who? Vince, Vinny Chase. Exactly. Avicii said that he didn't even know it was possible to go Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night, Monday night, Tuesday night. Stopped on Wednesday for some reason. Wednesday was like that. He said, I didn't even know it was possible to do that until we just started doing it

and then we didn't stop. And then it was like three years straight of that. Of partying and DJing six nights out of the week, traveling. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I watched something with Steve Aoki. He said the same thing. He basically trained his body to sleep like three hours a night. We've heard of DJs doing a show here in Indianapolis at 9 p.m. Eastern

and then after the show flying to Vegas to do their normal spot at a Vegas casino. Not WACA, DJs. WACA did that, though. WACA left Indy, and I think he went to Boston, or maybe he went west. I guess you would have to go west to save the time. He did a show here in India and then flew somewhere to do another show that same night. Same show, two of them, same night. It was just like, what a fucking hustle.

These guys are just making cake making cake good for them so we should start doing a v2 would make 500 000 per gig he did 500 of them go ahead and google that real quick what is that 250 million mm-hmm geez use a calculator i think right. Yeah, it's pretty spot on. In what, two years? And that's just on shows. Yeah. It's got all these bangers out, too. Yeah.

It's unreal. Hey, brother. I got more money than all your mother. His net worth was 85 mil. So I can imagine he could live on an island for a while. Yeah. In a third world country. And that was after he gave away a bunch to charity. It was 85 mil.

Yeah, that's like a billion dollars where he went to hide out. Yeah. It really is. And it looks like that, too, with the drone shot. He has an entire island to himself. It's a dream, boys. Hopefully one day I'll be able to say I'm fake dead

while just living in some island. It would be nice. We'd get bored, though. You would. You would for sure. Hey, you just put 18 holes on that island. I'm good. That's all I need. I mean, I guess if you get a little office golf set up.

Who would you tell? Who would you be like your close friend? So the issue here, let's think about this. No one. If Avicii isn't wifed up, or if he is, I don't know if he's wifed up. I guess he was. I guess he was, and his girlfriend always posts about missing him and stuff. So that was the only thing that got me.

He couldn't fornicate with random ladies. No. If he's a dead person. Couldn't do that. Why not? Because then they know. Yeah, but they don't know it's him. It could just be some random guy.

True. If he's assumed a complete, yeah, other identity. It's just some random rich guy living in fucking Middle East. It would have to just be prostitutes, I guess. Yeah, probably like those women, like the Arab sheiks flying and stuff. Well, yeah, like in Oman. How many Omanians do you think know of each? I don't think he lives in Oman.

I think he went to Oman because he could get the Oman diversity. Wherever he's at. I think he's living on his island in Madagascar. If you see this documentary, you see this island, it's like I would never. It's a beautiful place. I've seen the animated film. Yes. Madagascar.

I have. That's good. I'm surprised you haven't. You're an animated film guy. I am an animated how come there's not a documentary Finding Avicii right now

I bet you there is there really should be at this point three college kids go there and say hey we're taking a one way trip let's go

let's do it let's do it ourselves it'd be the number one podcast for three months yeah it's hard let's go doing PI

that should be your thing let's kick it in you got the brain too hey see you guys we got all these guys use our skills let's go. We'll find him.

He was sad watching Avicii battle through that, though. Very. It was very sad watching him. Just the ups and downs. All I ever wanted when I was a kid was money. That's all I ever wanted. I didn't care how I was going to get it. Professional wrestling, cool.

I'll go do that. Stand-up comedy, cool. I'll do that. Professional soccer player, cool. I'll do that. Football, I'll do that. However I get a shit ton of money, that what i'm gonna go do it's the only thing i wanted then you get a bunch of money and you're like man this is nothing like what i thought it was gonna be i thought it was all gonna be great i thought everything was gonna be perfect gives you a lot of freedom but it doesn't necessarily equate to

happiness and there's only so many people that can say that without people believing it but until you experience it yourself it's just a whole different animal. Avicii very much was experiencing that. Absolutely. You have everything in the palm of your hand, everything you could possibly want, but happiness doesn't come from that. Happiness comes from inside. It's a real thing.

Happiness is a real thing inside. You can take this from me. I haven't been wealthy. I've been rich. I haven't got to the wealthy stage yet. I plan on doing it because I want my kids' kids to be comfortable. But happiness doesn't come from that. And I've bought some shit that should make me a lot of happiness.

And it's like deep inside, it's not the answer. It's sad. Sad to think about. And that documentary is basically, like Foxy said, a visual representation of that just from beginning to end. I would assume, too, he probably has one of those weird, obsessive personalities. And I have a little bit of that, too, so I could see how if you get into that world,

in order to maintain the schedule like he did, he has to be just over-the-top obsessive, compulsive. You know what I mean? Like, I'm in this. Now I can't stop doing it. I want more. If I can make that much, I can make twice that the next week. I don't think it was just him.

I think it was, he had a guy named Arash who was his manager. That's who it was. Arash was the guy who is the, he's the mind behind it. He was the one setting up all the shows. He wasn't even going on the trips anymore. So he was just setting up the shows from a third location.

So he didn't have to do the travel, travel, travel, travel, travel, show, party, travel anymore. He was just setting it up as like a business basically. Like, okay, we'll do this. Yeah, you can get to this. Technically, you can get. This is what happens. So when somebody who has never played football decides to coach football. Now, granted, Charlie Weiss is an exception.

And I assume there's some other exceptions. But there's things that you see on film or you see on a piece of paper that should work. Okay, so this guy has four seconds to get from here to here. He should be able to do that. When you get here, I want you to flip, turn, and block this guy, right? So they'll draw it on a screen. They'll be like, cool. You can get from here to here, flip, turn, block this guy.

But in real, it's just like in Sully. You ever seen Sy yeah so in solly they're like he had enough time to change the landing thing if they just go strictly by the amount of time it should take they didn't take into account the human the thought of like the panic the 30 seconds right that's what saved solly at the end of the day it was an anniversary just like in football if you have somebody who doesn't coach football, try to coach football, they start thinking things are just technically correct, right? So like he can get from here to here. He can technically do that. Let's make him do that. And then once to try it out, normally it doesn't work. That's kind of what was happening with Avicii. They had somebody who's like, technically you can get from this show

in California to this show in Ibiza in a day and a half so we can set you up for a festival here a festival here then we can get you back to here in miami then we can get you to here just technically it could all work they don't take into account though that isn't a video game like avicii isn't a fucking video game he's an actual human whose body is going to collapse and crash which is going to bring down his mental state of mind because he's no longer happy because it's a job instead of a hobby. It's just that those are the types of things that it's greed. Greed gets a hold of everybody. That's what it was at the very end of each.

He's like, I don't see a reason why I should do another show. And the manager's like, I understand that. But there's this gig and this is how much money you guys are going to lose if you don't do the show. And then it was like, fuck, like that's when I felt really, really bad. What was the money? I don't remember the number. I don't think they gave the number. I don't do the show and then it was like fuck like that's when i felt really really bad what was the money i don't remember the number i don't think they gave the number i don't think they did either but i don't think they gave the number strictly because they knew how many people were going to be watching yes but i was interested i was interested to hear that number by the way i was like as soon as we got to that part i like lifted my ear i was like what what's his number here how much are we losing with these next two shows i think the world would like to know how much he's losing but i mean he made a shit done i think he's

still alive i still think he's still alive his move is the open hand throw i love that move to the crowd yeah by the way it's an open hand from behind it looks so cool from behind how about the fireworks head go off his last show by the way He was late for like 40 minutes or like an hour. Yeah, they tried to make him look bad. It's his last fucking show, though. Everybody in the crowd knew it was his last show, too. You just go ahead and buckle the fuck up. You know what I mean? They were showing the crowd and they were trying to make

him look bad. They're like, these people are waiting for him. It's like, yeah, it's his last show. No one looked miserable. They were so happy. They were all on so many fucking drugs. No one looked miserable. Avicii's a stud. And then working with all the other musicians, Wyclef Jean said he was like Bach in Michael Jackson.

He said he has an entire symphony in his head. He said, for me, I got to play the guitar or something like that. For Avicii, the entire symphony is just in his head. So he knows exactly what's going to happen. It's exactly like Bach was or Michael Jackson was like. Watching him kind of command the room whenever these other huge musicians were in the room was wild because he's this 24-year-old kid.

All he had was a fucking Steve Jobs Mac. And he was like, okay, do this. And then he was like demanding this and demanding that. It's like crazy to watch him kind of interact with other legends of music. That footage was incredible. Incredible. It was almost hard to believe that they got it. Yeah.

Because you've got these musicians that are so famous and stuff, and they're just letting them film the whole time. A lot of times, like you always say to me, you're like, you know, placing time for when the camera's on. Yeah, yeah. Because you've got to read the room. Yes. They always had it on.

Avicii owned the room. Every room he walked into, it felt as if the musicians were like, God, this is the guy in charge here. Exactly. I feel like that guy was hidden most of the time, though. He was just a friend that was just on the side. I really thought he was holding the cell phone. Whenever he got into a room where something was happening,

he would just be sitting in the corner. I don't want to i want to say like creepily recording but i don't think everybody knows that they're being recorded until afterwards and they're like hey we recorded is there any way we could use it we'll make you look good in it is there any way we could do that because there's a lot of natural reactions from people too so there's no way that they were told that they were being filmed beforehand in my eyes no i think you're 100 right i could be wrong i think it's like a side shot from the corner like what's that called oh it's a candid kind of candid yeah is it candid camera yeah because there's no way if you're like a hidden camera almost yeah yeah like there's no way if you're in the hospital like the doctors allow you just to film at all like yeah because obviously you all have friends

in there but like he was hidden like so they finish filming're in the hospital, the doctors will allow you just to film it all. Obviously, you all ought to have friends in there, but he was hidden. So they finish filming, though, and they go to the doctors like, hey, can we use that? And they're like, no. So they just blurred out the doctors' faces. It's like asking for forgiveness

instead of permission, basically. The candid hidden camera, though, is a great way to get all that fucking footage. Absolutely. Foxy, you should think about it. I am now. Whatever. Why isn't Dateline down on the island trying to find this guy?

That's perfect for your world. You can figure out the Avicii thing with Keith Morrison on a Friday night. But Dateline, though. Dateline's always behind. Dateline's always a couple weeks behind. They just did the R. Kelly special on Friday after the surviving R. Kelly documentary came out. By the way, I watched that.

That guy's a terrible human. Bad guy. Terrible human. R. Kelly's a bad, bad, bad, bad, bad guy. Bad guy. Not great. Can't let him be around you. Predator.

Predator. Full-on predator. People had to knock on walls when they were going room to room so he knew where you were in his house. What a fucking guy, dude. Guy. Guy. At the location?

I didn't see it. So he has a mansion in Atlanta. He has a mansion in Chicago. He has all these places where all these women live and they're basically being out hostage pretty much. And if you wanted to walk through the house to get to you had to ask for food. You had to ask for permission for food. You had to do all this stuff. But even if you wanted to walk through the house to get to you had to ask for food you had to ask for permission for food you had to do all this stuff but even if you wanted to change rooms you

had to like knock on the wall and then somebody could give you permission to go into the next room so if you want to walk through like let's say there's a lobby to the house you want to walk through the lobby into the dining room you have to wait in the lobby knock on the wall there's no door into the dining room but somebody in the dining room of R. Kelly or one of his people, I'd be like, yeah, you can come in here. Wow. These are like his friends? There might be some weird shit going on in that room.

Yeah. That you're not allowed to see. I believe that's probably it. He had a girl who was a trainer that lived in each house. She was supposed to train the girls on how R. Kelly likes to be treated. Jesus. What the- The madam? Is a cult leader. Yeah, he is. He's a cult leader. It's exactly what he is. was supposed to train the girls on how r kelly likes to be treated boy what's the madam is a

cult leader she is yeah he is he's a cult leader it's exactly what he is i'm all brainwashed he knows what he's doing the one girl was on dateline she was like every time we had sex he would tell me to tell me how old i was so i would tell him i was 16 and then he would force me to call him daddy afterwards and he would ask me that the entire time we were having sex how old are you and i would say i'm 16 daddy she was just saying this on the camera and i'm like how old was she fuck in reality how old was she uh she seemed like she was probably in her early 20s so this probably happened years ago but she was 16 but she oh at the time she was yeah she was actually 16 yeah 16. Yeah, that's his thing. That was his thing was really young girls.

Him and Aaliyah, he got married to Aaliyah when she was 15. Like actually married to Aaliyah when she was 15. And she's dead, right? Yeah. She passed away? Yeah, a plane crash. R. Kelly, let's not rule R. Kelly out of that. Or get away from him.

You said it. I was going to say it, but I stopped. What's that? That's how you get away from him. You said it. I was going to say it, but I stopped. What's that? That's how you get away from Mark Kelly. Kill yourself. Do you think Aaliyah

killed herself to get away from Mark Kelly? Definitely a thought. Yeah, it's definitely not outside the realm of possibility. Or you fake a plane crash. Think of the mental effects

that going through that has on you. He can't show up in public again. All of his shit, he's done. Only because of this Lifetime special, Surviving R. Kelly. He still had five, six shows booked around

the country that they got dropped, and his label just dropped them, I guess. RCA, I read that. Yeah, recently they just dropped them. It's wild, because these stories have been out for a long time. It'll be interesting to see if he gets convicted of this charge with the 14-year-old. I think he has a bunch of them waiting

on deck, though, charges-wise. One's got to stick. It's like the OJ situation. You're talking 30 years for that, probably. 20, 30 years. He would get fucked up in jail, too, right? Because he's fucking up little girls? Trauma luster, yeah.

Good for R. Kelly. He'd probably hold some concerts in jail just hide in the closet trap the closet i guess that alia album that he made um there was one girl that was in the house one of the houses while he was married to alia said that entire album is basically a depiction of exactly what was happening in that relationship so he would he has a lot of lyrics that are very suspect like i guess in he says this is for the younger girls and the older girls like he even said like i think he was pretty open like like i think they had to edit out some stuff from some songs like to him like hey you can't be saying this exactly like i think there was like a i think there was

a potential conversation about like a 14 year old and one of his songs they were like yo you can't potential conversation about like a 14 year old and one of his songs they were like yo you can't you can't just but it was wild that he survived all those years made a lot of money too man a lot of money yeah a lot of good documentaries out there i think you should go out and learn a little bit murder mountain avicii one fire fraud it's a dawn wall or kelly one huh the The Don Wall? Or Kelly one? Huh? The Don Wall? Anyone? Just rock climbing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I saw that.

Why are you so obsessed with rock climbing? There's a new rock climbing spot downtown. You made like an announcement to the entire crowd. Is that like your thing? No, it's not. But I'm thrilled by watching guys go up, especially not wearing anything to stop the Those guys do amazing. By putting a half of a fingertip in a crease and then shitting in a bag on the side of the mountain

and then sleeping there at night and saying, yeah, I've only got 700 more yards to go. I agree. I agree. They're just crazy. I agree that that particular human is a very interesting one. Nuts. And they're normally gypsies, too.

They just drive around in their vans. They make no money. Is it for the picture? I don't even know if they have technology. I think it's strictly for adrenaline. It's not something that they just do for adrenaline. It's like old Frenchie Flies, the guy that you sent me the video of,

the man who, he put himself in a catapult and launched himself off of a cliff with a selfie stick. Oh, yeah. And then put the parachute up. I guess he's... Dead!

Yeah. Really? What chute didn't open? selfie stick oh yeah and then put the parachute up i guess he's dead yeah i guess really i guess he's what shoot didn't open uh i don't know if a shoot didn't open or he flew one not on that particular one but one of his i guess that was his thing is he liked to go cliff jumping i guess he hit a cliff died it was um there's another documentary on netflix about the uh squirrel jumping suits people one of them died during filming One of them died during filming. One of them died during the... I don't know how more don't die. That's what I'm saying. I don't know how you don't hear about four a week. These adrenaline chasers,

I think there should be some medicine for these motherfuckers. Honestly, I think there should be some sort of medicine. It's a gift. It's a gift to be able to do that. I think we need adrenaline junkies in our lives to test the limits of things. I do believe that. But I think it sounds like every time that sound is made, I don't know what it is.

There's like a lap chair. Sounds like a wreath. Yeah, I just heard it for the first time. But it sounds like the RIP Sea of Japan. Like a little pan flute? I've heard it three, four times now so far, and every time I hear it, I think that Ty or you have hit play on the RIP Sea of Japan.

I think it's Zito's chair. But I don't know. We'll hear it. It'll come. It'll come naturally. But I think there should be some way to deal with that. I don't think that should be something that's just like, yeah, they're gentlemen.

It's just what they are. They're just like jumping out of planes with no parachutes. I feel like we should maybe look out for these guys and girls that are doing this because it seems like more often than not, they end up. Yeah. I don't know how you get that. For the squirrel suits, do they have parach than not they end up yeah for the squirrel suits

do they have parachutes what's that the squirrel suits have parachutes yeah they're inside of them we think they're nuts right

we think they're nuts those people rock climbers parachute or squirrel divers I want to go squirrel diving so bad I love the videos

so bad I want to do it one time but see people think you're nuts for playing in the National Football League with 11 guys coming at you trying to get in your face mask.

I guess that is true. You know what I mean? So it's to each their own. There's people like, I would never play in an NFL game. Would not do it. That's crazy. But what if they do stand up? But would you want to do it if you knew that every time you went out on the field,

if you didn't do it right, you would die? Or if you're getting a huge paycheck, too. You're getting a huge paycheck. I don't know if those people that are squirrel jumping are getting huge fucking paychecks. A lot of them are paying for it themselves. Red Bull's behind them somewhere. Some of them, right?

It's like last night, whenever Zerline was about to hit that 57 yarder, I was so fucking nervous for Johnny Hecker and the snapper and Zerline. I was so nervous. I was like, man, I don't know how I was ever fucking nervous for Johnny Hecker and the snapper and Zerlin. I was so nervous. I was like, man, I don't know how I was ever in that situation. I was so fucking nervous. Colquitt was punting backed up out of his end zone.

I was like, oh, my God, you had a shitty one here. Tom Brady's definitely going to score. You're fucked. I was like starting to think of all these situations, and I was like, I don't know how he did that. I honestly have no clue how. But when you're in it, you don't even think about and you're in control yeah like i you'd always rather be in control than watching it and hoping well in like two out of three punts

just for instance i mean the the amount of time difference between that guy getting a fingertip on the ball and not is a millisecond i mean it's like every time i never thought about it when i was in a game honestly i never really got i never really got nervous and that might sound interesting i never got nervous i always got like excited though i was always like i can't wait to get out there and do my thing but now that i'm turned into a fan and watching i get fucking like i'm like i'm like looking away on this i'm like come on man on, man. Like, just make it, please, so we don't have another Cody Parkey situation. Please, fucking God, make the 48.

All right, it's good. Good. And then the 57 yarder, that's a fun one, though, because nobody expects you to make it. You miss a 57 yarder, no one's expecting you to make it. It's like a thing. That's like a fun one. I was excited to film that.

I was excited to film that. But I didn't put out a For The Brand video For the 48 yarder Because I was like I couldn't even fucking watch I'm like The NFC fucking championship This is a huge moment After the Bird Box situation

Great weekend Get out there And watch some shit I think we should make More documentaries Yeah I think so too It'd be fun Seems so easy to make man

That Murder Mountain Seems so easy to make Two years for a two-hour documentary i mean you just find a cool ass story and then you you tell it two years what do you mean well i mean you if you're gonna do a proper documentary in 90 minute where you're gonna have a beginning a middle and an end and there is a solution or there's not a solution at the end that's two years i don't think so story i disagree completely that murder mountain was what four interviews they did four sit-down interviews with people they had the vietnam guy they had the two old ladies they did like four or five interviews

you'd knock that out in like three four days you just have to get the reenactors they had uh reenactments i guess that's the only thing and i assume probably like that crew was probably working on four different documentaries simultaneously because you do have to wait for certain events to happen they needed the new development and the missing kids story to happen so i could go cover that you know what i mean but they were probably traveling around working on other ones all you need is a story you just need the story and then you have to tell it but boy that murder mountain was an eye-opener murder mountain would love to say that i haven't thought a couple mornings waking up and just disappearing to either humboldt county or to madagascar i would love to say that i haven't thought about it but boy these

that humboldt county that guy was a utah uh lobbyist yeah he was a lobbyist like a big wing he's a big wing in utah now he's a criminal in humboldt county just fucking riding around on atvs with bandanas over his face just living life like an outlaw. You'd rather go to Madagascar, though, obviously, right? Yeah, I would. For sure, yeah. For sure. But I mean, there's something cool about just being out in the wild, wild west with no fucking rules.

I know. I think about that sometimes, especially somewhere out where you had a ranch, you know what I mean? You had your own horses and quads and shit you could go out shooting whenever you want and just kind of hang out there for a while that'd be pretty cool i'd probably be a revolver guy hashtag end gang hashtag end game i want you to tweet either gadell or somebody at the nfl to listen to florio's explanation of how we fix the NFL. Say you heard it on this show. You like what the Italian was saying and let's fix the NFL together. This is a team effort. No prizes except for a better league next year because of this. Let's band

together. Let's rally the troops. Let's get our social initiative together and start tweeting at Goodell and at the NFL that they should listen to this and get the right answer for the future of the NFL that's all I got I think that was pretty good little motivation that was nice yeah I hope you're running through a wall at least tap it on your screen at commish I think his name is Roger Goodell or NFL commish you get it at NFL commish you'll find it and you say hey cuzzy you should go check out the Pat McAfee show 2.0 today. Paisan Florio solves the game. That was an incredible idea by him.

And also the boys. Great conversation out of them today. Tweet us anything that you notice from the show that you like and any corrections that we have. Conan O'Brien has this thing where it's like, correct my mistake. And it's a whole thing. I feel like we make a lot more than he does. i'd like to hear them we appreciate you all so much have an incredible tuesday heartland radio 2.0 is tomorrow we will see you thursday with chuck pogano chuck pogano coming in on thursday should be a good conversation he's the bears d coordinator

and he's one of the most hilarious humans i've ever heard in my life have a great tuesday appreciate you all ty schmidt hit the music feeling my way through the darkness guided by a beating heart i can't tell where the journey will end But I know where to start They tell me I'm too young to understand They say I'm caught up in a dream Well, life will pass me by if I don't open up my eyes Well, that's fine by me So wake me up when it's all over When I'm wiser and I'm older

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